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<v Speaker 1>Lingo Ann's stories say the Kushtaka or koushtaka is a

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<v Speaker 1>shape shifting otter like creature that lures people into the wilderness,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes trigging them to their deaths. Michael Oros arrived in

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<v Speaker 1>the wilds of northwest British Columbia in nineteen seventy two

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<v Speaker 1>with a peach fuzz beard carrying a bamboo flute. Henry Vance,

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<v Speaker 1>a First Nation taunting man who spent winters caretaking a

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<v Speaker 1>hunting god's cabin and horses in she Slay, an abandoned

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<v Speaker 1>native village and mining settlement, encountered Oros hiking along the

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<v Speaker 1>trail from Telegraph Creek. When Oros moved into a deserted cabin,

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<v Speaker 1>Vance suddenly found himself with a neighbor. In the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>Vance and his wife had to take care of the

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<v Speaker 1>boy as he struggled to stay alive, and over time,

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<v Speaker 1>Vance watched the young man harden and develop his wood skills.

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<v Speaker 1>He also witnessed increasingly spooky violent behavior from Oros. For instance, once,

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<v Speaker 1>when Oros showed up asking for dinner, he took offense

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<v Speaker 1>when Vance asked him to wash his hands. All of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, Vance got the feeling that Oros was considering

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<v Speaker 1>murdering him. Another time, he threatened to kill Vance's wife

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<v Speaker 1>over a pitied dispute over Oros's dogs. Years later, after

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<v Speaker 1>Vance learned that Oros had gone on to commit horrible

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<v Speaker 1>crimes and murders across the region, Vance said he felt

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<v Speaker 1>guilty for having helped him. Our taulting people are helpful people.

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<v Speaker 1>We help people who are down and out, Vance said

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<v Speaker 1>in an interview on a Canadian radio station. Vance could

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<v Speaker 1>not have known at the time that he was helping

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<v Speaker 1>a man who would become known as she Slay Free Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most infamous and mysterious criminals to ever

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<v Speaker 1>roam the North Country. At first, Oros's home base was

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<v Speaker 1>near the headwaters of the she Sleiy River, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a tributary of the massive Taco River watershed that originates

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<v Speaker 1>in British Columbia and drains into southeast Alaska. It's likely

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<v Speaker 1>that the isolation of living at she Sleay contributed to

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<v Speaker 1>Oros becoming increasingly feral, paranoid, and delusional. He took to

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<v Speaker 1>carving trees and building with his personal mark, a blazing

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<v Speaker 1>sun symbol, which signified that he owned the country and

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<v Speaker 1>everything in it. He roamed deeper into the wilderness, living

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<v Speaker 1>in a tent and in abandoned structures, illegally hunting and trapping,

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<v Speaker 1>and occasionally raiding a cabin. The heart of Oros's territory

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<v Speaker 1>began more or less in she Slay, and stretched west

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<v Speaker 1>to Atland and north to Teslon to encompass more than

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand square miles. Much of the area is the

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<v Speaker 1>Taku ling At people's ancestral home, where many still live today.

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<v Speaker 1>Stories of Oros menacing nature and his cabin raids began

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<v Speaker 1>to circulate as de detales of his almost superhuman ability

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<v Speaker 1>to travel through the woods. He could supposedly snowshoe while

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<v Speaker 1>hauling a heavy sled at a steady six miles per hour,

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<v Speaker 1>covering sixty miles a day. He moved like a ghost,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time unseen, and at other times he

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<v Speaker 1>would suddenly appear as if he were conjured. Over time,

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<v Speaker 1>Oros ran the Tesla and Lingot off their legally owned

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<v Speaker 1>trapping grounds and claimed them as his own. They could

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<v Speaker 1>have filed charges, but they declined to talk to the police.

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<v Speaker 1>Sit to ling At culturer bearer Dave Kenoe said that

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<v Speaker 1>some families moved to southeast Alaska to get away from Oros.

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian police officer Chris Morgan was stationed in Teslain for

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<v Speaker 1>several years and had encounters with Oros. In a nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five interview for the Vancouver Sun newspaper, Morgan called

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<v Speaker 1>Oros the missing link, the closest thing a man can

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<v Speaker 1>be to being an animal and the closest thing an

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<v Speaker 1>animal can be to being a man. But he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>always that way. He was born in Oregon in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two, the only child of a single mother who

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<v Speaker 1>worked as a petroleum geologist, a chemical engineer, and a

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<v Speaker 1>university professor. He never knew his father. Arla Clia got

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<v Speaker 1>to know the boy and his mother in the early

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties when the two moved to her neighborhood in Lawrence, Kansas.

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<v Speaker 1>One of Client's first interactions with the two was taking Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>whom she described as lonely in show, to his first

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<v Speaker 1>day of school because his mom was busy. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight, when Michael was in the tenth grade, he

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<v Speaker 1>became deeply affected by the Vietnam War. He developed a

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<v Speaker 1>deep hatred for the government and authority in general. Not

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<v Speaker 1>long after, his mother claimed she sent him away to

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<v Speaker 1>live with relatives and work horses in Wyoming. Clia never

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<v Speaker 1>saw Michael or heard his mother talk about him again,

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<v Speaker 1>and whether Oros actually went to Wyoming is unclear. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>he was soon on his own, wandering the country. When

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<v Speaker 1>he turned eighteen, he became a draft dodger and began

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<v Speaker 1>using aliases. He'd used at least fifteen during his short life.

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<v Speaker 1>In Taos, New Mexico, he joined a commune where he

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<v Speaker 1>got tangled up in drugs and violence, though the details

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<v Speaker 1>around this part of Oros's story are unclear. Eventually he

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<v Speaker 1>fled to Fairbanks, Alaska. Vernon Frolic, a Canadian writer and prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 1>had full access to Oros's diaries. He published the book

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<v Speaker 1>about Oros entitled Descent into Madness The Diary of a Killer.

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<v Speaker 1>The book describes Oros when he first comes north as

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<v Speaker 1>a hardcore back to Earth, part of a movement to

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<v Speaker 1>reconnect with the land that began in the nineteen fifties

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<v Speaker 1>in response to industrialization and capitalism, and arguably reached its

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<v Speaker 1>peak during the early nineteen seventies. Like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>young people moving to Alaska in that era, Oros was

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<v Speaker 1>also looking to escape his past and reinvent himself. Oros

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<v Speaker 1>was on a quest for freedom and truth, and the

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<v Speaker 1>wild North seemed to be the perfect place to find it.

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<v Speaker 1>More than that, he wanted to build a utopic community

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<v Speaker 1>in the wilderness that would be a sanctuary for those

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<v Speaker 1>seeking escape from society. He read esoteric books, studied zen,

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<v Speaker 1>and was obsessed with concepts like trying to grasp the

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<v Speaker 1>unseen reality. He took up with different small groups of hippies,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly draft dodgers, and lived in primitive cabins. The cold,

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<v Speaker 1>darkness and isolation of Fairbanks Winners was too much for him, though,

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<v Speaker 1>In the spring of nineteen seventy two, he set out

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<v Speaker 1>for Telegraph Creek in northwest British Columbia. One story goes

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<v Speaker 1>that he was run out of Telegraph Creek by locals

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why he ended up in She Slay. Another

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<v Speaker 1>is that he was offered a job helping the same

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<v Speaker 1>hunting outfitter Henry Vance was working for. But regardless, She

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<v Speaker 1>Slay is the place that marked the beginning of his

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen year war with the torture Druggers and the sneak Arounds.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't long before he became known as She Slay

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<v Speaker 1>Free Mike or just She Slay, and before long became

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<v Speaker 1>bane of the country. Oros kept prolific journals documenting his paranoia, delusions,

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<v Speaker 1>and rage. He'd leave notes or poems posted to trees

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<v Speaker 1>or cabin doors, stating things like I'm a free man,

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<v Speaker 1>let me be. In his journals, he constantly referred to

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<v Speaker 1>torture druggers who experimented and poisoned him, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>sneak arounds, whom he never seemed to catch sight of,

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<v Speaker 1>but who he believed were stalking him. Armed with a

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<v Speaker 1>three to zero three rifle, he'd spend a significant portion

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<v Speaker 1>of many days hunting sneak arounds. Oros also imagined that

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<v Speaker 1>every time a plane flew overhead, it sprayed him and

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<v Speaker 1>the earth with poisonous chemicals. His hatred of authority figures

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<v Speaker 1>had deepened into a murderous rage, and he constantly wrote

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<v Speaker 1>in his journals about wanting to kill any government officials

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<v Speaker 1>he might encounter. At the time, the only government employees

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<v Speaker 1>who spent time in his territory were Alaska Department a

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<v Speaker 1>Fish and Game fishery biologists, conducting research annually from April

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<v Speaker 1>through October. Lead biologist Paul Kissner worked in the Taku

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<v Speaker 1>Watershed from nineteen seventy one to nineteen ninety. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>Kissner told me that he and his crew thought Oros

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<v Speaker 1>was weird but a mostly harmless mountain man. Mike Beathers,

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<v Speaker 1>a retired King Salmon biologists who worked with Kissner, said

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<v Speaker 1>that changed as they learned more about him. Quote, the

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<v Speaker 1>women at camp were especially scared. No one ever saw him,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were always looking over our shoulders feathers set.

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<v Speaker 1>In early summer of nineteen seventy nine, Kissner and crew

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<v Speaker 1>returned to their research camp on the Nakuina River, a

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<v Speaker 1>tributary of the taku and found that Oros had stolen

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<v Speaker 1>their river boat from and raiding their camp. Oros knew

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<v Speaker 1>at least some of the crew's names and that many

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<v Speaker 1>of them lived in Juno. Kisner reported the theft to

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<v Speaker 1>the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and was willing to testify

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<v Speaker 1>against Oros. Police were well aware of Oros by the

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<v Speaker 1>time and suspected him in numerous crimes. Now they had

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<v Speaker 1>an arrest warrant, but they made no move. Locating Oros

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<v Speaker 1>would be difficult and dangerous, not to mention, the charge

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<v Speaker 1>likely wouldn't amount to a substantial conviction. Despite his aversion

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<v Speaker 1>to civilization, Oros would go into the town on occasion

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<v Speaker 1>for short term work, to stock up on supplies and

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<v Speaker 1>look for women. He'd do this sometimes in Juno, where

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't infamous. The fall after he stole the ADF

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<v Speaker 1>and G riverboat, it appears he went to Juno and

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<v Speaker 1>was working with a road crew paving the highway. Kisner

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<v Speaker 1>was still up at Taku when lay one night, a

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<v Speaker 1>hippie with long and sandy blonde hair knocked on his

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife's condominium door. Through the door, Kisner's wife

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<v Speaker 1>asked the man what he wanted quote He told her

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<v Speaker 1>there was a problem with her newspaper and that she

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<v Speaker 1>needed to let him in. Kisner said he seemed threatening,

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<v Speaker 1>and she retreated to the kitchen to call the police.

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<v Speaker 1>The man became irate, pounding and demanding to be let in,

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<v Speaker 1>and when a trooper finally arrived, the only sign of

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<v Speaker 1>the prowler was the evidence he left dripping down the door. Later,

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<v Speaker 1>upon seeing a photo of Oros, Kisner's wife guessed it

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<v Speaker 1>could have been him. Phil Timpany, a Canadian woodsman, was

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<v Speaker 1>the only member of Kisner's fishery crew whoever actually saw Oros.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened sometime after the fall of nineteen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 1>while Oros was being held in custody in Atlan, a

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<v Speaker 1>cop wanted to come in and Oros and Timpany was

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<v Speaker 1>out in the same country as the madman, and the

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<v Speaker 1>cop was worried for his safety. The officer told Timpany

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<v Speaker 1>they suspected Oros of a number of disappearances and murders. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>I ask what to do if I meet up with

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<v Speaker 1>him in the woods. He said, don't ever say goodbye. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>just shoot him. At the jail, Timpany expected there would

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<v Speaker 1>be a one way window or something blocking Oros from

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<v Speaker 1>seeing him. Instead, the cop took him right in front

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<v Speaker 1>of Oros. Quote. I saw him at the store a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days later, and he never took his eyes

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<v Speaker 1>off me. He was the most wild looking guy, but

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<v Speaker 1>not in a woodsy way. His eyes were just intents,

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<v Speaker 1>like a caged animal in intense eyes. Timpany said. Just

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<v Speaker 1>about everyone was scared of Oros, except for an old,

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<v Speaker 1>enigmatic trapper named Gunther Lishey, an ex Nazi who fought

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<v Speaker 1>in World War Two before being imprisoned in a Russian camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Lichy emigrated to Canada to live in the woods. He

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<v Speaker 1>was tough, and he was woods wise and apparently dangerous Timpany,

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<v Speaker 1>who also had a trap line, treaded lightly around Lishey.

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<v Speaker 1>He recalled hearing a story of Lichy encountering another trapper

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<v Speaker 1>on his line. Lichy aimed his gun at the man,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lishy's companion, who happened to be a cop, and

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<v Speaker 1>told him to stop. Lischi said something along the lines

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<v Speaker 1>that he'd killed many men in his life and one

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<v Speaker 1>more wouldn't make any difference. Supposedly, Lichi and Oros only

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<v Speaker 1>met twice. Once was briefly in the Wiles, when Lichi

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<v Speaker 1>took a photo of Oros. It was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>three photos found on the German's cabin wall after he disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>The second was in the late summer of nineteen eighty one. Lichy,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing Oros had a cabin and a trap line on

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<v Speaker 1>Hudsongola Lake, got dropped off by a floatplane. In late July,

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<v Speaker 1>Oros was gone, Lichi began building a cabin less than

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred yards from Oros's cabin. Lishi's actions were bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>For one, Lichi knew it was illegal to trap the area.

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<v Speaker 1>why would Lichi allow his business to be known by

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<v Speaker 1>One likely explanation could be that Lichy, knowing Oros had

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<v Speaker 1>surviving World War II, the German might have believed that

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with Oros wouldn't be that difficult. On September tenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty one, one pilot Dave Weeb landed in Hutzegola

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<v Speaker 1>Lake to pick up Lishey as they had scheduled weeks before,

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<v Speaker 1>but instead of Lishy, Web was confronted by Oros, who

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<v Speaker 1>cool as he could and he got away. He flew

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<v Speaker 1>to Atland and immediately contacted the RCMP. Police, believing they

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<v Speaker 1>finally had solid evidence on Oros, immediately mobilized the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Their plan was to use the arrest warrant from Oros

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<v Speaker 1>as nineteen seventy nine theft of the ADF and G

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<v Speaker 1>team arrived at Hutsgola Lake on September twelfth, Oros was

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<v Speaker 1>tried to hide. They also took Oros' diaries for evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>They searched Tor, but they couldn't find Lishi's body. Oros

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<v Speaker 1>an ever growing list of people. When police flew in,

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<v Speaker 1>Oros inexplicably went without much of a fight. The only

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<v Speaker 1>thing that Oros seemed to care about were his dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Many people have referenced his devotion to them. What happened

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<v Speaker 1>after Oros was handcuffed is unclear. Officially, he was put

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<v Speaker 1>another story that out of spite, an officer shot Oros's

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<v Speaker 1>favorite dog right in front of him. Vernon Frolic, the

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutor who'd later write to sent into Madness, worked with

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<v Speaker 1>the police during the investigation. Without Lehi's body or a confession,

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<v Speaker 1>and only minor charges. Frolic and the police tried to

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<v Speaker 1>have Oros locked up in a psychiatric hospital. While Oros

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<v Speaker 1>was deeply disturbed, he was also extremely intelligent and cunning.

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<v Speaker 1>His diaries are largely free form madness, but it appeared

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<v Speaker 1>that he never wrote anything legally incriminating. By late August,

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<v Speaker 1>Oros had been acquitted and set free. He roamed all

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<v Speaker 1>over the Lower forty eight in Canada. Timpany heard a

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<v Speaker 1>cop in that one claimed Oros was being tracked daily

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<v Speaker 1>during his travels. Around this time, Oros directed the lion's

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<v Speaker 1>share of his hatred toward police officers. He wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>his last diary that focusing his hatred allowed him to

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do before I died. One of those things

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<v Speaker 1>may have been the rape and murder of Cindy Elrod,

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<v Speaker 1>whose body was found on August twenty third, nineteen eighty three,

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<v Speaker 1>in Juno. The night before, el Rod had been seen

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<v Speaker 1>at a bar with a man described as having long,

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<v Speaker 1>sandy blonde hair like Oros and being within a similar age,

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<v Speaker 1>height and weight range. A composite sketch shows a baby

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<v Speaker 1>faced man with long hair parted in the middle, the

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<v Speaker 1>same as Oro's hair was in pictures. During his last years,

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<v Speaker 1>Oros's rambling journals showed he believed that an elite paramilitary

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<v Speaker 1>unit would be helicoptered into an area to hunt him down.

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<v Speaker 1>This prediction became a reality in March of nineteen eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>after Frank and Aileen Hayes arrived at their cabin in

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<v Speaker 1>He had taken everything of value, including their wedding rings.

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<v Speaker 1>He left the partially butchered remains of a Ca hal

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<v Speaker 1>mooso In's side. Clumps of hair and rotting blood were

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<v Speaker 1>rightfully worried for their lives, snow machined back to Teslin

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<v Speaker 1>and reported to break into the police. The RCMP reconnaissance

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<v Speaker 1>flight was sent out, and when the pilot found Oros

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<v Speaker 1>hauling a slid through the snowy wilderness, the madman fired

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<v Speaker 1>at the plane. Teslain police contacted emergency response teams and

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<v Speaker 1>literally overnight, a team of rcmps, most elite officers, were mobilized.

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<v Speaker 1>Two of the men on the ERT were close friends

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<v Speaker 1>with Mike Badey and Gary Rogers, both of whom dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with Oros in nineteen eighty two while he was in

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<v Speaker 1>custody and terrace and afterward while he was waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>his trial. Budday was a larger than live character. One night,

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<v Speaker 1>after having a few drinks and showing up at Roger's house,

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<v Speaker 1>he decided to use his chainsaw to cut the door,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than to be rude by knocking and descent into madness.

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<v Speaker 1>Frolic wrote that when Oros was detained in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>two and tore apart a jail, sell officers went and

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<v Speaker 1>fetched Budet, who was off duty and drinking at the bar,

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<v Speaker 1>to subdue him. Buddet is more than just a muscled

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<v Speaker 1>up drinker, though. When Oros was waiting for his trial

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty two, he slept on a police station

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<v Speaker 1>bench when the weather was bad. If anyone tried to

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<v Speaker 1>While members of the ERT were on their way north,

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<v Speaker 1>Oros slept on Big Island in Tusslin Lake. The burial

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<v Speaker 1>place of a lingo Ant shaman. There had long been

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<v Speaker 1>that he was not human. They believed that he was

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<v Speaker 1>a physical manifestation of the kushta Ka, an evil spirit

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<v Speaker 1>that preys upon and possesses the loss, turning them into

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<v Speaker 1>a reflection of itself. The kushta Ka is a shape

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<v Speaker 1>shifting monster associated with madness and disappearances and wildness. The

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<v Speaker 1>kushta Ka can be linked to the wild man of

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<v Speaker 1>the woods archetype, and that it lures its victims into

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<v Speaker 1>the wilderness, turns them insane, and causes them to lose

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<v Speaker 1>their humanity. To this day, many people who were involved

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<v Speaker 1>with Oros believe this, including Rogers. Some also believe that Oros,

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<v Speaker 1>by sleeping at the burial site on Big Island, woke

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit of the shaman. One of the most important

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<v Speaker 1>functions of the Lingolnt shaman was to battle the cousta Ka.

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<v Speaker 1>Oros knew police would be coming for him. He could

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<v Speaker 1>have escaped into the wilderness, but instead he chose to

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<v Speaker 1>wait for them. His journals indicate his belief that his

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<v Speaker 1>war with the real and imagined world was about to end.

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<v Speaker 1>In a big shootout. On the morning of March nineteen, Rogers, Badet,

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest of the ert flew into Teslin late.

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers in Budet, armed with them sixteen's along with a sharpshooter,

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<v Speaker 1>made up one of the units. Their unit was dropped

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<v Speaker 1>off in front of Oros, while another was dropped behind him.

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<v Speaker 1>While Rogers in Bedet were hiding in the deep snow,

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to intercept Oros. As he snowshoed toward them, the

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<v Speaker 1>mad trapper disappeared into the brush unseen. He circled around

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<v Speaker 1>and snuck up on Rogers in Budet. Oros fatally shot

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<v Speaker 1>Bedey through the back of the neck with his three

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<v Speaker 1>to zero three rifle and then turned to Rogers. Forty

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<v Speaker 1>he and Bidet had some higher power with them that day.

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<v Speaker 1>The moment after Budet was shot had an out of

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<v Speaker 1>body experience, like he was watching the events happen from above.

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<v Speaker 1>He says he looked down on Oros as the man

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<v Speaker 1>worked his rifle. Boat took aim and pulled a trigger,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Rogers watched himself raise his M sixteen and shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>His bullet went through Oros's forehead, killing him instantly. Examination

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<v Speaker 1>of Orosa's rifle afterwards showed that the firing pin had

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<v Speaker 1>been worked in, dented the primer, but hadn't ignited the powder.

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers should have been killed. Lihi's remains were found a

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<v Speaker 1>year and a half later when a constable from Teslain

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<v Speaker 1>There was a bullet hole through the right scapula. Forensics

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<v Speaker 1>showed Lichi had been shot in the back with a

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<v Speaker 1>bullet matching a three to zero three cartridge. With Oros dead,

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<v Speaker 1>a wave of relief washed over the region. Forty years later,

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<v Speaker 1>Much of the land he wants roam is still wild,

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<v Speaker 1>though there is a massive mining operation plan for the region.

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<v Speaker 1>Oros has been pretty much forgotten except by those who

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<v Speaker 1>are affected by him directly. He remains as cryptic in

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<v Speaker 1>death as he was in life. People who dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>him still lower their voices when they talk about she

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<v Speaker 1>Slave Free Mike, if they speak of him at all.
