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Speaker 6: Welcome m OTB in every Tuesday hour three. We started
with our guy NICKI Underhill. New Orleans dot Football is
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Speaker 7: Nick underscore Underhill on Twitter. Nicky, what's up, dude? How
we feeling here on this Tuesday?
Speaker 8: Doing great?
Speaker 6: How you guys going, uh, doing well? Ourselves? A little
sad about the Hooters bankruptcy, you know, kind of taking
it as a sign that we have degenerated as society.
We have become so desensitized in this age of thirst,
traps and only fans that just a little bit of
cleavage no longer does it anymore, you know, sad, sad
state of affairs.
Speaker 8: Their Nick honestly say, I've never been in one, So
I mean, I don't I don't know what we've lost
or or gained, but.
Speaker 6: Uh, you never stepped foot into Hooters, either casually or professionally.
Speaker 8: No, I mean it's just kind of like I feel
like if I ended up there, it just means like
a lot of things went wrong, and you know, just
not enough things to put apronstantly so yo, like like
if it gets that bad, there's like there's like a
applebeezer at olive garden, Like I'm just gonna, you know,
I'm gonna stop there, and.
Speaker 7: And you know, you know.
Speaker 5: I will say this.
Speaker 6: I mean, olive garden apples are great. I'll say this
more of a Chile's I think it's I think it's
important in life sometimes to make a distinction between maliciousness
and ignorance. And so I will forgive your ignorance in
this case, as forgive him father.
Speaker 7: He knows not what he says.
Speaker 6: Because Hooter's wings are awesome, and when the Hooters vibe
is right, it's it's an American institution, okay, or at.
Speaker 8: Least it was different because like I grew up near Buffalo,
so like I know what a real wing is, and
like I know what these like.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 6: I mean to be fair, like I should, I should
clarify my statement in that I know what I'm eating
is like overly breaded and overly fried, you know, but
that that's but it doesn't make it not delicious, Like
it's just basically a big, hugely breaded fried chicken wing.
Speaker 7: Just with like buffalo sauce on it, which I don't know.
It's great to me.
Speaker 5: So you're not, I mean because buffalo wings, buffalo.
Speaker 6: Wings from Buffalo are not bredded correct.
Speaker 8: No not not no, yeah no, they're grilled and deep
pride and yeah you can get them on the pit
like there's different ways, but yeah, no, they're definitely not.
It's not it's not a many KFC bite.
Speaker 7: Yes, exactly, which what shooters is.
Speaker 6: So it is something different and I enjoy it, nonetheless
enjoyed past tense rest in peace. Uh, Nick, We are
here a couple of weeks into the Kellen Moore era,
some hires being made, both coordinators. You also got a
defensive pass game coordinator and Terry Joseph starting to chip
away the cap. So there's a lot going on. So,
as a dog looking at all of these tennis balls,
what are you most interested in right now?
Speaker 7: What are you really chewing on?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 8: My god, what is wrong with you?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 8: What a what a? What a transition? There?
Speaker 9: Which ball?
Speaker 7: Think about that? My bad?
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 8: Right now I'm kind of I'm kind of most interested
in the defense a little bit because we've been talking
about the offense for the last six weeks and color
and more kind of specifically. So yeah, I mean, look,
the idea of b is Sailey. I think it is
kind of interesting, Like we're gonna find out, you know,
at one point in time, this was like one of
the evens regardless as like the young genius of the
league on defense, and you know, I think when you
kind of watch his defense in the scheme and all
the stuff they're trying to do, like, I do wonder
if you take out kind of the other responsibilities and
allow him just to focus on making sure like the
player is going to execute everything he's asking them to do.
I do wonder if it'll be a lot better. Like
maybe he's someone like da who's a good defensive coordinator,
just not a great head coach, and you kind of
you kind of see in that role, you know, kind
of the way that defense is design kind of leases.
Based on my initial look, it kind of looks like
they play like a gap a hot scheme up front,
which you know kind of puts some responsibility on your
defensive lineman to just kind of always have their eyes
in the right place, and there's a lot of responsibility
on them, and I think they you know, have to
be trained to see the field the right way and
make the right decisions in that, and then you know
they kind of do some powder and match in the
back end, which again is your players kind of making
decisions and having to read the field the right way
and all that, and this is a lot of moving parts.
There's an answer to everything kind of built in. It
seems like if when the defense is run and right,
that they should never be you know, you should never
be able to just kind of like hit him in
a gap and get an explosive run, or you shouldn't
you know, have the coverage break because you know they've
ran a man beater, you know whatever. It is like
that they should have an answer for everything in real time.
And I do wonder if, like when you're coaching everything,
trying to teach that much intricacy within a scheme, I
do wonder if if it becomes difficult and maybe taking
that off allows them to be a little bit better.
But I kind of like the idea of a lot
of the stuff they're doing, and it's hard not to.
I mean, you know, Dick Fangios, but I'm one of
the best defensive coordinators in the league. Forever and he's
a disciple.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was just a.
Speaker 8: Matter it's either right guy to execute it. At one
point in time, he was you know, I kind of
feel bad for Brandon Staley a little bit because he
ended up being a five hundred coach overall, and like
I was shocked to see that, Like, but I looked
up as record just kind of the way we talked
about him for years. It kind of felt like, you know,
like it was going to be like da oapland and
it wasn't. You know, they made the playoffs once, Like
I think it was just like a lot of the
gaps with him were you know, fought management in game decisions.
Speaker 6: The fall came very quickly, right, I mean they were
ten and seven, but then it goes into the playoff
debacle into five and nine or whatever it was, and
that was all she wrote.
Speaker 7: Like it it kind of came out of nowhere, like
when it ended ended fast.
Speaker 8: The worst thing that ever happened to him is he
ended up with the quarterback that's the the darling of
the Internet, and they didn't win enough games. Like if
he had just done with what he was doing somewhere else,
the could probably would have been fine. You know, it
doesn't help that Sean Payton quit his job and was
like breathing down his neck, you know, like while they're
in the playoffs and it's like, oh man, a lot
of Sean's gonna get that job, and like they decided
to keep him and didn't start out great and and
things kind of went in the tank.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: I will say, like his defense wasn't good enough there.
Like if you're going to be a defensive head coach
and you get hired to a job and you're you're
five hundred and the GM can look in your you know,
sixteenth in defense or whatever, that's not good enough. I
mean it was kind of the same thing with da
here at the end, like okay, fine, like the team's
not great, you're kind of hot runner out five hundred,
but like your defense kind of stocks like that that
isn't that isn't going to be the thing that saved you,
and that needs to be on points. So there's a
lot of stuff that needs to be better. And you know,
I'm I'm by no means convinced that this isn't the
perfect answer or you know, the right answer, but I'm
open to the idea of it like I think there's
a possibility, and you know, I think it's worth worth
signing out. I mean, just if it's not the right thing,
like hopefully they have a head coach's willing to move
on quickly and in six mistakes. But man, it really
does feel like they're putting together like a pretty good staff.
Like Terry Joseph, he's going to be the past game
coordinator on defense, Like you look at the development and
the defensive backs at Textice, they were like one hundred
and fiftieth and like past defense efficiency when he got
there and they finished second last year, like year by
year by year they got better. And you know, I
think with where the stands are out, like player development
is probably even more important than than you know anything,
because I think you do have to start over on
that side of the ball, Like you got to get
rid of all these old guys. You need to kind
of replace everyone. You know, if you go through the
defense and say, like who's going to be there in
twenty six, it's like two names that I think you
can like absolutely include maybe three, and then beyond that,
you know, it gets kind of it gets kind of tough.
So you know, if you're trying to replace eight, nine, ten,
you know, build that. I mean you got to you
got to bring in cheap players and be able to
develop them. So I think, like more than anything on defense,
Like I think player development is paramount. So like, I
think he's a good asset in that regard. But yeah,
I mean, I like the idea of where it's going.
We'll see how the rest of it fills out. We're
out at the combine right now, so like, hopefully by
the end of the week we have a few more
names we're here to put on that list. So yeah,
I think, you know, I'm fascinated to see where it goes.
Like I'm fascinated by the idea of the staff overall.
But like I don't, you know, there's there's still big
questions I think that need to be answered.
Speaker 5: All right, Nick, a couple of things. First off, I'll
let that straight to Justin Herbert. Just go by the wayside.
We won't harp on that because I don't want to
get it. I don't want to get caught on that.
I think the Saints would love to have him. You're
right about everything you said about Staley's defense. I mean
it is a gap and half run defense. It's a
light box, too high shell, a lot of Cover four,
a ton of Cover six, and that's what look Fanjio.
It's kind of his style as well. Now, one of
the things that I feel like you have to have
if you want to run this defense to its highest
capable ability is a really good elite defensive line. And
you got to have elite defensive line play. We saw
it in Philly this year obviously with Vick. We saw
it Staley when he was with the Rams. Can the
Saints get that? Is that something that they can actually
achieve and do we look at the number nine overall
pick and maybe think now more defensive line, edge rusher
because of it.
Speaker 8: Man, I think it's gonna be tough to rebuild it fast,
Like I think it's gonna take it. I mean, maybe
everything on that line, like there's really not there's really
not anything that you feel great about. Like Carl Grandis
seems like a good beast, but like when he's at
the top of your death treat I don't think you
have a great offensive line. Like I'm still intrigue with
the idea of Brian Ersive, but I don't know that
it's like really coming together the way you know you
would you would hope. You know, I think that there's
there's some major things that need to improve in his
run defense.
Speaker 9: I think you know it.
Speaker 6: Not I don't.
Speaker 8: I don't even know who you get it not. I
though Daniel Jeremiah put Mike Green there, you know, had
a really good senior Bowl. I'm you know, based on
conversations I've had, I would be I would be absolutely
shocked if they took him in the first round. I
don't see that happening.
Speaker 5: Saints can't take another edge rusher from a group of
five school like, no matter how good they are, they
they can't do it.
Speaker 7: Like the goofy meme. Just just watch, Okay, if you.
Speaker 8: Can get him on the swing, you know, in the
second round, sure, like I think that could that could
be fine. But yeah, not at nine, Like he's just
not like even when you watch him, like, yeah, there's
some there's some good stuff, like I think he's a
very good player. Just take it at nine, like he's
not transforming your defense. But yeah, absolutely, I can't take
a small school school guy there. I mean, if it's
a draft tomorrow and I'm and I'm you're asking me
to place a bet today that you know my entire
net worth, Like you have to place a bet on
something like I would put it on Ashton.
Speaker 3: Gen.
Speaker 8: I think that's probably where that's exciting today.
Speaker 7: That's exciting.
Speaker 8: That's exciting the same answer in two months, you know,
I don't know, but like today and I had to place.
Speaker 7: What are your moaning back?
Speaker 6: Everybody who's benefited all that running backs recently plus fall
in the foot a to be a pro? No?
Speaker 7: Man, no, why no, man?
Speaker 5: Speak up?
Speaker 9: We need a playmaker.
Speaker 5: What I mean?
Speaker 9: I was gonna, don't get.
Speaker 6: Me wrong, shut off your own mic, off your own Hey,
dumb Barkley, I'm out here.
Speaker 5: You've lost responsibilities.
Speaker 7: Taylor. You're upset because Nick saying we're gonna take it
from the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Yes, my heart sung when I heard that.
Speaker 3: However, that would require this Cowboys to do the correct
thing anyways, So I mean, is that actually gonna happen?
Speaker 5: Here we go?
Speaker 6: Okay, Gen, t be exciting Nick that that would actually
be one of the few pr wins that these Saints
have had recently. Not that the like you should not
draft based off of that, But maybe that's a nice
symbosis there that uh, that that would make the fans
happy and be like maybe the correct pick.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would be excited by it. You know, see
what he can do. I mean I think I think
it's a really good running back draft Puss. But he's
kind of you know the guy that was in the sewer,
that the the you know, the the green goo who's
done and turned into a mutant. Yeah, yeah, he's different.
Like he's different, like he I think he's a Yeah,
he's a munster. Like he really is kind of like
a k a little bit too, like not necessarily like
you know, down to the you know, core of it,
but like, I think there's similarities to him when you
watch him playing, you pair him together, Like, I think
it would be really interesting, you know. I was kind
of researching some well. I mean, like I've watched every
interview Colomar has ever done, Like you watch the Groo
Quarterbacks School, that's weird, but I watch every interview every
day and like that. There's one like from from nineteen
where he actually talks about like how much he liked
the parent between Alvin and mark Ingram, you know, and
what they were doing here with the way they were
deploying their writing backs and all that stuff and kind
of using Alvin as a chess piece and everything. But
I mean, yeah, I mean every you know, there's just
some spunk there. There's just some spunk theer on that,
you know, And I think I think there's there's a
definite possibility that that he's that he'd be in played.
Speaker 6: See, guys, that's the sort of spectrum infused writing that
you can only get at New Orleans Dot Football. A
man who will watch every single interview the head coach
has ever done and specifically cite a random twenty nineteen
anecdote positively praving praising the combination of Ingram and Kamara.
That's what I'm talking about. Nick, that's the good stuff.
That's New Orleans Top Football.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 6: We're you have a great that you have a great
gest walk off for sure. The best lady man, Nick
underill At Nick Underscore Underhill. This man really is just
sitting there grinding boring ass coaching interviews.
Speaker 7: Do you know what a sicko you have to be?
Especially because we.
Speaker 6: Could even make it through a Kellen Moore introductory head
coach press conference and he's out here grinding like random
o C Media Availabilities from twenty eighteen. That's why in
a dark room realick different, it's locked in. Yeah, the
game locked in for sure, I did.
Speaker 5: I loved how he kind of broke down Staley's defense, though,
now that might go up this schemes, like you need.
Speaker 6: Some good d lineman you do? This is where on
my head's at man playing a gap in half and whatnot?
I mean, yeah, there'll be one right there at nine.
Speaker 5: Shut up.
Speaker 7: You want take a d lineman for round please, dude,
he'll be there.
Speaker 5: So like if you're doing the breakdown, and again, we
need a maker maybe.
Speaker 4: Maker, but an interior d line.
Speaker 9: But no, no, I mean, but Mason, Mason, we have
way bigger holes than running I just think we have
bigger holes than a running back right now.
Speaker 7: But you don't want to go wide receiver because you
don't even know what your quarterback is.
Speaker 9: So I just feel like, like I think gent is
gonna be great, but we have no old line for gent,
Like we don't, like we have holes everywhere.
Speaker 7: That needn't bedroom blocking last.
Speaker 9: Year, but if they will, I've been hearing that Will
Campbell arm is gonna come out shorter and he's gonna
fall a little bit, I wouldn't be opposed to taking
will can he falls. I'm just saying if he falls,
I wouldn't be opposed of that bump pinning inside move
move for Wile at the right tack.
Speaker 6: You're all over the place. You say we want to
take a playmaker almaker this year.
Speaker 5: I don't think sure.
Speaker 7: Actually forgot about that. What are you saying, Jake Jordan
got all distracting of these crazy tastes.
Speaker 5: Not a crazy take, all right, So whenever we talk
about them needing elite defensive line play, there's a couple
of different reasons. Nick mentioned the gap and a half
when you look at you gotta have some versatility if
you play in this defense, because he'll kind of go
between a three to four base defense and Nickel and Dimond,
so you have to have some versatility to you as well.
And then another thing, he is going to show pressure
but doesn't really bring pressure, so you got to get
home with four a ton. And then we talked about
kind of the light boxes. So you're trying to stop
the pass first, Well, what does that do? It kind
of opens you up in the run game as well,
so you put a lot of pressure on your defensive line.
That front four has got to generate pressure and they
have to be run stoppers and they're not going to
get a lot of help. And so like when you
look at the situation that the Saints have and they've
spent a lot of time, money, resources on their defensive front, Yeah,
do we feel like they have currently right now what
it takes to beat all the things that we're talking about.
Speaker 6: No, but that's I mean, that's but but but unlike
do where me and Jordan differ, we agree there. Where
me and Jordan differ is that's the entire roster, Jake,
you know what I'm saying, It's the entire roster. And
so hell yeah, give me Ashton gent Over, Mike Cream, you.
Speaker 7: Know, give me.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying whatever, give me, give me gent Over,
whoever like any offensive their defensive lineman. Unfortunately, I know
it all starts with the trenches. I know all of this,
but I don't trust them drafting in the trenches right now.
And it would feel good in a season of bad
if at least you felt like you had like a
young budding superstar, you know.
Speaker 9: And maybe that could be gent We're afraid of what
they're going to draft. We don't trust them at this point,
Like that's.
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, without a doubt. The biggest problem is
the front office.
Speaker 6: In all of this coaching transition to power, that is
the single thing that has been crystallized more than any other.
Speaker 7: So again it's like, I don't know Kellen Moore in
this crew. They got their work cut out for him.
Speaker 6: I like it.
Speaker 5: Gosh, if you paid Granerson. I think Grahmerson is a
good player. I think there's some value versatility for me.
He kind of gives you a little bit of that.
I think you can't play. I think if Cam's on
this roster, he can at least give you the versatility
that we're talking about. He can play a four I
he can kind of do some different things. Brian Erzi's
got to step up. Yeah he got like you took
him in the first round. I don't care if it
was thirty first, thirty seven, Like that doesn't matter. First round.
On the defensive tackle, you have got to step up
because again they've spent resources on that position group and
you've got some versatility there. I still think you need
to add. Maybe it's the second, third round maybe spend
those two picks on defensive front because again when you
look at what Brandon Staley's defenses give up. Well, in
the in the West, like that was okay because you
had Pat Mahomes and you had the Chiefs, and they
weren't trying to run the football. Okay, Denver, at that
time they had Russ. They weren't trying to run the football.
They were trying to push the all down the field. Well, okay,
the Panthers, the Falcons, and the Bucks. Well you look
at those teams. They all got good running back. Yeah,
Bucky Irvin, h Robinson and Chuba Hubbard who just got
a new deal because he outplayed his deal, his rookie deal.
So those are three teams that run the ball well.
And like especially the Tampa Bay Bucks. I mean, I
think Bucky Irving is about to be a super star shillout.
Speaker 6: I see Taylor's desk rising the more you talk about
the Bucks and Bucky Irving.
Speaker 5: So my whole point is it doesn't have to be
in the first round. This is a great second, third
and fourth round draft. It's not a first round, true, Yeah,
So go with jend go with the guy that's different.
If you got a guy, and you got a defensive
tackle on the second round, a highly graded guy, and
you got a solid, versatile edge defender who maybe can
give you a couple of different options as far as
where he plays. I think you would be happy.
Speaker 7: Oh you know what this sounds like?
Speaker 9: Season? Oh we've been a nice as week ten. H Well,
obviously you haven't been. Yeah, yes I have, brother, haven't been.
Speaker 5: I do an hour on NFL Radio talking draft every week,
and so.
Speaker 7: I guess it's gonna be my life pretty soon here.
Speaker 5: It's about to be. Yeah, you're you're about to join
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to North Sports Tune.
Speaker 1: What's some other stuff mixed in theft the bench with
Hester and Tibom.
Speaker 7: Welcome in.
Speaker 5: How about this? How about the Saints take Literal Giant
Dion Walker in the second round six to six, Yeah,
forty five out of Kentucky six seven yeah, right right.
He was six to six in the program, six seven
at the Senior Bowl. That doesn't happen very often. I
don't know. He'll be there around the seton, he'll be
there in the second round. I think, I think I
think they.
Speaker 3: Got him like what mid forties, somewhere in there, like
overalls between forty five and fifty five.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean first round on Gent at nine.
Speaker 5: Pick Now, you get gent in the first round, you
get Dion Walker maybe in the second round, and then
in the third round.
Speaker 7: Let's say you just sneak a mock draft segment.
Speaker 5: Let's say you get Kyle Canard out of South Carolina. Yeah,
because right now, es me and Dot comments, Kyle Canard
is the sixty eighth ranked player. You have a third round,
I was sixty ninth pick.
Speaker 6: Saints, what picked seventy somewhere in there, I mean right
there with Mayds knowing Loomis he's gonna do everything he
can to turn that into pick sixty seven.
Speaker 5: Because like in the edge rusher category, like kind of
in that range, you're gonna have Kyle Canard. Jordan Birch
out of Oregon. Oh wow, you're out of Ohio state. Uh,
Brayden Swinson, somebody we know very well. He's kind of
in that category as well. So I think, give me gent,
give me a d tackle, give me an edge rusher
first three picks, and I would also take tedor Rod
McMillan if he's available at nine. Well yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Mean, if you're gonna go receiver, that's yeah. You still
do yes really need water and a tight end.
Speaker 9: We need a tight end.
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think shot goes tight end.
Speaker 9: You know I'm saying. I did not say tight. I
said we just need a tight end. So we need
a tight end.
Speaker 5: There's Foster played pretty well too.
Speaker 3: There's a guy that played here in bat Ruge that'll
probably be there late third round.
Speaker 5: You think Mason will be there in third round?
Speaker 3: I think Mason will be there in the third round. Also,
let's not forget about Harold Fan and Junior. Get I
get that he played at Boston College. I understand that.
Speaker 6: He did not have a good Senior Bowl though how
many people have the sentence. Let's not forget about Harold
Fan and Junior. I know I know he had I
know he had a great number than everything else, But
like that is Mason Taylor right now. I don't think
the average person is Harold said, let's not forget.
Speaker 5: Okay, Mason Taylor right now, third rated tight end on
ESPN dot com sixty ninth overall.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's right there in the third round.
Speaker 6: I think he's the second. I think he'll get picked
because of what he did in Mobile. I think he
probably elevates himself. If you really need a tight end,
I think probably Mason's going to go. I think we
should draft Cam McCormick man out of Miami. I mean,
the guys he's not like thirty two. Say he's got experience,
played nine years of college football.
Speaker 4: You can replace Taysom. They're the same age.
Speaker 9: Hell yeah, that's even crazier, Like they actually kind of
are close. Like that's wild.
Speaker 6: That is kind of wild that the craziest game to
play like that is always comparing NBA players to NFL
players and looking at the ages and how like Devin
Booker has been in the NBA for like ten years,
but him and Joe Burr or maybe like the same age.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you Burro's played like four or five now at
this point.
Speaker 6: I saw a great one the other day and it
was just like crazy like the NBA is the craziest one.
Speaker 7: They all enter at eighteen.
Speaker 5: It's like like Jayden Daniels and Zion at the same age.
Oh yeah, it's like like on his second deal. That's good.
Speaker 7: Those that looks good.
Speaker 3: By the way, how long has Luca been in the
NBA seven years now? He's twenty five?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Luka.
Speaker 4: Doncic is twenty five yeah wow, yes, I.
Speaker 7: Mean give me kind of like and he's a five
time All Pro already.
Speaker 5: Yeah. An example of what we're talking about right now.
The number one team in the country and basketball, the
Auburn Tigers. Their average age is twenty three point two
years what the Oklahoma City Thunder is twenty four point four?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Wow?
Speaker 6: And okay, se he's on the freakish but the number one,
like number two team in the West. And it's not
those guys first year in the NBA either. Now they've
been oh I mean just Alexander's second team. Yeah yeah,
I mean Chet Holmers now at least three years.
Speaker 9: Man, he's like twenty two.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Jordan, talk to me of the Pelicans real quick, since
I want to know why, okay, how we feeling?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 6: Everything ever you want to know I'm the only one
that's really that's tapped in. So how we feel about
Giying now he's ever been in.
Speaker 9: Just just get to next year, That's how I feel like,
Just get to next year. Like, yeah, you're fourteen in
a million, No matter what you do for the rest
of the season doesn't matter, right, You're just trying to
stay in top five pick range, because anything lower than three,
honestly is a failure of the season. Talking about top
three pick, like you cannot walk out with the fourth pick.
Speaker 7: We gotta lottery goes our way.
Speaker 9: I know we're not getting number one. We're not gonna
get blessed like that. We're not gonna get blessed.
Speaker 7: What I mean, we got blessed.
Speaker 5: Generation.
Speaker 9: I'm one hundred can say I'm a hundred Flag. I'm
at least seventy percent sure Cooper Flags going to the Jazz.
I think they're gonna the jazz, gonna get the nother
one pick.
Speaker 5: I kind of Cooper Flag looks like he plays for
jazz already.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very Utah vibes.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and like Duke white Boy, Yeah yeah, Duke,
and yes, because I know people are not paying attention
to the jazz.
Speaker 5: You better that sure.
Speaker 9: So if you look at the Jazz there every other night,
they're benching their best place. Yeah, like for mystery injuries
and all that. So no, Utah has been taking since
like late December. They're trying to Yeah, exactly, Jake So
Danny and has been there. He's been trying to build
this up for a while. I think this is finally
the year Utah Jazz get the number one pick and
they're gonna land Cooper Flag. But my vision is moved
past towards Dylan Harper.
Speaker 5: I don't care. I don't care. I don't I don't,
I don't care.
Speaker 9: Is gonna be out for the future.
Speaker 6: I don't care about drafting NBA players. Do Willie Green
and David Griffin?
Speaker 9: No, Griff will probably about Willy.
Speaker 7: Why why would Griff survive.
Speaker 9: Because he's like Mickey Loomis, he's just making any SENSEOS.
Speaker 7: You're gonna give Griff what a fourth head coach?
Speaker 9: He'll be his fourth head coach? Yeah, in six seven years.
Fourth head.
Speaker 7: There's a common denominator.
Speaker 9: What could it?
Speaker 5: What could it be?
Speaker 9: But you're dealing with Gail Benson, you don't I'm not
expecting her to do that, Like I'm one hundred, like,
if Willy out the door, that would be a blessing.
But Griff needs to be packing with them.
Speaker 6: So you're done with Willy because the Willy was always
a fan favorite, just kind of viewed as Dean delt
a bad hand.
Speaker 9: Well, at a certain point, you have to win games.
So the reason I was done with Willie this season
is when in the beginning of the year, they played
the Golden State Warriors twice, yeah, in their first five games,
and the Warriors played without Curry both those games, and
the Pelicans lost, and it has Zion b I. You know,
de Jonta hand was broke. So I'm watching a team
with an actual legit system compared to the Pelicans. And
you watch a team that didn't have Curry with Buddy
Hill some dude named Liddy Waters bust the Pelicans up. Yeah,
So no, like the Pelicans, they need a coach x
and os.
Speaker 5: Buddy Hill.
Speaker 7: Yeah, shout out Buddy Hill. You know, aren't the Warriors
like really good now at Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, Jimmy Butler is always got He's like a
villain from a scary movie where he's always got one
more jump scare left in.
Speaker 4: Him, make a little run every time.
Speaker 6: Yet think he's he's over the hill and his tempers
too much. He's always got one little where he just
needs a new environment and he's got one kill left
in him.
Speaker 9: And the crazy part about it is this man acts
out of the heat. Basically did all that and gotta
pay raise.
Speaker 6: He got more money smart, So I mean, there's many
things you can cho Jimmy Butler of I mean, not
having a ring is probably gonna haunt him forever, but
not being incredibly successful at everything he does is not
one of them. And like forging his own path, he
is extreme and for whatever reason, it almost always seems
to work out for him. Derek Henry's older than Todd Grow. Well,
yeah that makes sense. I guess the crazans are Tod
grow is what Tagro is like. Twenty nine, Yeah, that's right.
Played six years in NFL. I think five five, It
might have been six.
Speaker 5: We had we had him into Super Bowl and I
was shocked, like whatever it was, I either played in
a year more or the same amount, and I'm like
that just didn't seem right.
Speaker 6: Like talking with him on air, I don't know how
much Gurley love football at the end either oh yeah,
I mean his body man, it was like a real
like it was chears like he he did it because
it was yeah like he did it because that's the
one thing that that was going to make him a
lot of money. And everybody like, you have to love football,
Yeah if you want, Like he was so talented he
could get it done.
Speaker 5: But it was it was an interesting conversation. He was
very open.
Speaker 6: It was a great commerce Like. I appreciate him being
as open as he was. All Right, when we get
back more tv.
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Speaker 5: Here?
Speaker 9: Three things to loop you, young b.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the best morning sports show around sort of.
Speaker 2: It's off the Bench with Hester and t bop.
Speaker 6: All right, let's do a quick OTB mailbag here and
then I'll give Tatane anvil story of the data.
Speaker 2: I hope it's a.
Speaker 9: Special delivery for the bench. And look it is marked
most urgent.
Speaker 5: We'll be writing to you the internet.
Speaker 9: What the is the internet.
Speaker 7: Mailbag? Hasha?
Speaker 6: I go to the mailbag any chance you move up
a few spots to try and grab abdul Carter. I
don't think we have enough ass st for that, but
it'd be perfect. That'd be a great fit. But the
things need so much Again, no trading up, no trading up.
You need to add as many people to this roster
as you can to the draft and try to hope
they work out.
Speaker 5: And this is also a very deep Edge Rusher class.
It's not that I'm saying there's seven abdul Carter's there's not,
but it's very very deep. You can get somebody that's
a starter. I think in the third round at.
Speaker 7: Edge Rusher has to mail bag what hurt what's hurts worst?
Speaker 6: No one laughing at a video you show them, or
quieting down after you realize no one's listening to your story.
Quiet quieting down is a rush on, that's your Your
story just kind of peters out. Just yeah, just like
lost say, I show videos to my wife all the time.
Speaker 5: She doesn't laugh at So yeah, it's.
Speaker 7: Not a great feeling either.
Speaker 6: No, I mean, I don't even both. You know, Sometimes
Steve Bob, I'm like I gotta get his attention. Sometimes
I'm telling the story that's true a little bit.
Speaker 5: My brain video very not that he's not listening.
Speaker 7: That goes both ways, though, it goes both ways.
Speaker 5: Oh, I've got elite tune out skills.
Speaker 7: I've got the kids. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean when God Coco Melon's on the TV, others
are like, oh my god, turning off off. I'm like,
I didn't know it was on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can just sit there and listen to kids
cry and just no doubt not pay attention.
Speaker 6: Has to go to your mailbag, Jake. Sorry, my arsenal
can't stop Liverpool. At least you have that last game
of Goodson good get Us in Goodison. The show get
taken out from Spotify. That's why I listened in Texas
disappeared on Friday, so I was texting mad about this.
It is a known issue at Spotify, specifically, they're working
on it. Liverpool is going to probably win the league,
but live at poop. I don't really look.
Speaker 5: Everything's playing really really well, even getting screwed by bare
still playing really really well. So and you know last
time I good uson Park it was a great match
and we got one at the death to be able
to get a point.
Speaker 6: Hashtag to be mailbag would you rather take one team
bus to Dallas or three commercial flights to three different
times like the baseball team's during today?
Speaker 7: What it's crazy?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 5: Why are they doing that?
Speaker 7: I don't know?
Speaker 5: All right, take I just take a bus. It's not
that bad that you go up to the street for
you hook a left in your palace.
Speaker 7: Give me an NFL Story of the Day.
Speaker 1: Day, It's time for day's NFL Story of the Day Day,
your daily dose of NFL news from Taylor Sharp Wild.
Speaker 3: One out of the for the Denver Broncos there outside
linebacker coach Michael will Hoyt is facing a felony assault
charge where allegedly assaulting a police officer on Sunday.
Speaker 7: This will hot.
Speaker 4: So, uh here's what happened. He uh, will Hoyt was
at the airport.
Speaker 3: He was parked at a no parking zone and the
coup walked up to him and said, hey, you can't
park here.
Speaker 4: He apparently said, uh, he.
Speaker 5: Did hit him with it. Do you know who I am?
Speaker 7: No, he hit him with a I've never heard.
Speaker 3: He hit him with an STF you And then later
he was approached being told he couldn't leave his vehicle
unattended in a drop off lane. Will Hoyt then bumped
his chest into the police officer. The cop pushed him
away to back him up, and then that's when will
Hoyt was like, you know what, I'm punching this guy
directly in the face, as you know someone would. The
officer fell to the ground used his taser on will Hoit. However,
the Broncos assistant was still able to get in his
vehicle and drive away, so he has later been arrested.
He was booked into the Denver jail on Sunday. A
bond was set for him on Monday for five thousand dollars,
which is extremely low. But the Broncos say that they
were aware of the situation because how could you not be,
and that they are in the process of gathering more information.
Speaker 4: So Michael will Hoyt had himself a bad day on Sunday.
Speaker 6: This seems like, I mean, there's gotta be a mental
health element to this, right, Like that's such an absurd
thing too. Yeah, Like literally was just go to a
bus but like you know, you can't park at a
at a busy airport, at a drop off or pickup zone, Like.
Speaker 7: That's a massive known. That's like a a homeland security level.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, and uh.
Speaker 3: He's asked once, said st F you was approached again
and then thought about it.
Speaker 5: So damn yes.
Speaker 7: Well wait.
Speaker 6: That's crazy thing. He has like an old New New
York accent, like an old gangster. All right, when you
get back, it's so funny. We just didn't mail back
because we ask the bitch.
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We got you now, Timer the little asks the bitch
brought about Coo kerz Lot visit or tilted Blue Moon
lots Cass that you're sweet. Rivers asked, do you think
t Bob could beat that crawling Pelicans baby in a
crawling race? Uh?
Speaker 7: Oh, I would say absolutely.
Speaker 6: But when you get to be older, like, crawling actually sucks,
hurts the knees. When I a few years ago, I
used to have the kids riding around in my back
all the time, Jake, Now it's a little fewer and
far between.
Speaker 7: It's build the callouses up, like did That's true?
Speaker 6: It just takes time. Except he didn't look that. He
didn't get named throatcoat for no reason. You know that
don't happen overnight.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 7: Give me some give me something underneath here. If you
want to keep like that, you do all right? Or
keep it going?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: As a bite?
Speaker 6: What should Nola has doomed NHL team be named. It's
going to be something awful. Whatever it is, it's going
to be awful.
Speaker 7: No, it's a jazz it should be the jazz show up.
Speaker 4: It ain't gonna be.
Speaker 9: I will be the biggest fan. I will have the
jersey all that I will be. Yeah, we get it,
but I will.
Speaker 5: Be the sweater Like, what do you The jersey is
called a sweat soccer Like if I say jersey, people like.
Speaker 6: You.
Speaker 5: It's sweater though, right, I'm leaning on you who has.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got my Panthers sweater.
Speaker 5: Shut up? Back and South asked the ben.
Speaker 6: Should I go to Twin Peaks wearing a really tight
fitting Hooters T shirt I've had for about twenty years. Yeah,
I mean sure, They're not a threat anymore. I want
to go just so I can hear what people say
to you.
Speaker 5: I've only been to a Twin Peaks one time, and
it was with our boss Gordy Rush for a Bowl game.
I think maybe in Arizona because my man had some trade.
Speaker 7: Wait, hold on, sorry, what happened?
Speaker 5: I was reading questions. I've only been to Twin Peaks
once in my life. I was with our boss Gordy Rush. Hell,
he had some trade at Twin Peaks from them advertising
with I've got a good.
Speaker 7: Time to tim Peaks, really cold beers, good food is
me Gordy.
Speaker 5: And my boy Eric Kokmeyer used to work in the
equipment room.
Speaker 6: I just think that I like, I give a real
special place my heart for the Hooters breaded wings, and
I don't have any special places similarly for TP, although
again they do have those ice cold mugs and the
beers that are really good and those.
Speaker 5: It is funny that like I think, goes to places
like this but not for the bonk reasons. Like I think,
nobody really enjoys the food.
Speaker 6: So that is the hidden secret of all of this
is getting older, is realizing that you're not really there
for that.
Speaker 7: Sure it's whatever.
Speaker 3: First off, no, I go like once every two years.
I enjoyed the food at Twin Peaks.
Speaker 4: Did not enjoy the.
Speaker 5: Food of Hooters.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, you need to shut the hell up.
Speaker 5: Okay, I have.
Speaker 6: In honor of Lynn Rollins. Have you ever stroked it
long and deep? I've tried a couple of times. I've tried,
for sure. YEA tried in here.
Speaker 7: Always trying to shoot for the moon, even if you miss,
you land among the stars.
Speaker 5: That's deep, fun intended.
Speaker 7: It's like Aristotle, what Hooters dish would you, sir, say
the wings.
Speaker 6: I like the burgers. I was a burger guy, really
double cheese. I'm not saying it's a bad burger, but
it's also not a special bird. No, not crazy, I'm
gonna have uperior. I'm here for other reasons. Sometimes I
may not want to deal with the whole faheta tray
or something. It's gonna knock me on my ass, and
I just wanted something a little simpler. Spuerburger is fine,
but it's not like maybe like it's not like that
was like his favorite thing.
Speaker 7: It was like the yeah they like.
Speaker 6: But then again, there's nothing better than a little serf
inter heaters. Good God, it's the best thing like.
Speaker 5: It for the rest of the day. But that's a
sacrifice that you're willing to make.
Speaker 7: Who do you think would exactly or sometimes or not?
Who would do better in the baby crawing contest?
Speaker 5: Me or Taylor? Taylor?
Speaker 6: Me?
Speaker 4: Because I would cheat and do whatever I had to
do to win.
Speaker 9: Your body's a little beat up dog.
Speaker 7: That would be so funny.
Speaker 5: Shouldering.
Speaker 6: Yesterday of two women fighting and this obese woman punched
the baby of the other women, I was like, Okay,
this is why Hooters just closing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we are as a society. No, it was not
out of Hooters.
Speaker 5: I love you people.
Speaker 7: See tomorrow Mark to be
Speaker 2: Off the bench.