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Speaker 1: Bitch and bitchin all right. So I've been whening wanting

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to come to this book for a long time. Now

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is the appropriate time. Now that we're beginning, we're beginning

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to have a lot of fruitful conversations actually with traditional

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Catholics and Thomas finally, so uh, multiple lengthy, fruitful conversations

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today in the discord. So I'm glad for that, Glad

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that we can have conversations on a friendly level without

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getting too and even heated passion discussions without getting too

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angry or whatever. As we get to the end of

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tonight's talk, I'm going to open up the discord for

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to give priority to the supertat questions and so welcome

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everybody to tonight's stream. So we're going to be talking

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about the excellent whim help book that I've talked about

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for a long time, John Courtney Murray, Time Life Magazine,

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and the American Proposition. Now a little bit of background.

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If you're a trad, as I was a trad for

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many years, then you typically believe in the narrative that

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something like this happened basically around the time of the Enlightenment.

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After the Reformation, the ideals of the Protestant world of

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the Enlightenment, Humanism essentially came to dominate and subvert principally

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through a lot of secret societies and cults like Freemasonry.

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So the trad narrative is that groups like Freemasonry subverted

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the Church from within and you know, eventually got it

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to accept the more and more liberal policies like under

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the time of Pious the tenth modernism, hence provoking Pious

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to write Pachndi, lamentabilei, these different documents that condemn the

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presuppositions of modernism. And this Masonic subversion, however, was such

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that by the time of Vatican Two it had gained sway. Right,

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so pretty much gained sway, and then all the various

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trads can debate to what degrees they believe Vatiican two

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was or was not influenced by freemasonry and liberalism or

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what Leo the thirteenth and his encyclical on Freemasonry calls

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organized naturalism right human um janus, which is the encyclical

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relating to the condemination of Freemasonry famously by Leo the thirteenth.

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And now I've covered all that stuff for a long time,

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but I'm just pointing this out that this is the

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trad version, and I bought into this version for a

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long time because it makes in a lot of ways,

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it makes sense, and it's not all wrong. Right. By

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the way, if you do want to ask super Chat questions,

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support the show. But there are a couple of books

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that came along. I mean, I was already kind of

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out of orthodox out of Rumtossism into Orthodoxy when I

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was beginning to lean away from this and I started

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looking at more bigger geopolitical types of stuff. But along

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came Michael Hoffman's book A Cult Renaissance Church of Rome

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and David Wimhow's book, John Courtney, Mary Tomlap Magazine and

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Proposition How this CIA's auctional warfare program changed the calogy church.

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And basically this one gives the argument that it's not

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really the fault solely of modern Judaism or Freemasonry, that

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Trads are really deluding themselves because they're not being honest

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with the Renaissance and medieval papacy, which had far more

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power and influence during that time period than Jews did.

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papacy itself for the failure of Latin Catholicism. So I

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think Hoffman sets out to show that thesis with the Renaissance, right,

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the first thousand years of Christianity. He's not concerned with

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the first millennium. He's not competent in that area. But

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that's only part of the picture. Again, because it's not

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just spiritual and ideological battles. This is a very autistic,

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kind of idealistic young guy's approach to things, like I'll

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read all the books and then I'll understand the pure

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ideology that led to X y Z. Now there are

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ideological trends that happen in history that lead to this.

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there's nothing out of a chord with that. Right. I've

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argued for a long time that I think absolute divine

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simplicity caused a lot of the problems in Western thought.

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get into geopolitics, And geopolitics is one of the big

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factors that has a huge impact on these issues. Now,

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reductionist and smush everything into geopolitics. Right, I'm not gonna

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smush everything into a battle of ideals like an idealist

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would do. I'm not going to make it all a

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conspiracy as a conspiracy theorist would do. So the important

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point of this book is to stress that this is

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not a conspiracy text. This is a scholarly text written

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by a Catholic lawyer himself, a person in communion with

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as far as I know, Francis David Wimhoff is a.

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Speaker 2: Normal track quote unquot quote, normal trad Catholic who affirms

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the authority and accepts Vatican two and the popes, but

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admits at the same time that they were subverted.

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't think that that's a tenable position. Obviously

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theology because it comes into play in the book, but

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this is a geopolitical analysis of the force and factors

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involved in Vatican Two. And another reason we want to

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look at this angle is that one of the common

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refrains that's more of one of the more low IQ

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responses to Orthodoxy is Haha, you guys are the Church

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of Cicero Papisms at Constantinople because of you had an

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imperial church and you couldn't you couldn't fight the Saracens

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and so forth with all this nonsense. Right, because when

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Roman Catholics are said to be dealing with problems, right

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if if we talk about the pedo crisis in the

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Roman Catholic Church, Oh, we have the Pedo Cristis because

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we're the true church. Oh really, But when it's our

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church that has problems. If we collapse in Byzantium, it's

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because of our sins. You see that the the moving

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the goalposts there the special pleading. So the problems in

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the Church can just be read and reinterpret into whatever

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you want them to be. Now, these are kind of

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low IQ arguments that dumber people make, but they do

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come up a lot. And what we're going to easily,

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very quickly see is that, as we saw in the

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talk with Snack on the Franks, the entity of the

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Vatican as an entity of geopolitics and thus paypalocesserism, as

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I will call it, is just as much a problem

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and just as much a reverse inverse problem as their

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accusation of the Orthodox Church being cesero papist. This is

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a demonstrable proof with eight hundred pages, eight hundred and

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fifty pages and some thousand footnotes. So here's a lawyer,

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you guys, love your papal lawyering, here's a lawyer in

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the Catholic tradition, traditional Catholic arguing that essentially the Roman

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Catholic Church a little bit prior to but mainly manifested

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and Vatican two is an engine of Americanism in the Cia.

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For the gold Worg. It's that simple. John Courtney Murray

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being one of these key agents along with Ceed Jackson,

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who came up with this doctrinal warfare program on the

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part of the CIA. Henry Luce of Time Life Magazines

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scolmbones who basically work together with his wife Claire Booth Luce,

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a convert to Catholicism, to convince the American Catholics and

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the problem speaking here of the prominent ones, to influence

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people in the Vatican to accept a lot of the

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American ideas Americanism. Now, what do we mean by Americanism.

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natural rights. Again, I'm gonna argue there is a connection

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between the Tonistic doctrines of natural right and the American

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Enlightenment doctrines of natural rights, the libertarian ethos and spirit,

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the atomistic individualism, religious liberty, religious freedom, freedom of conscience,

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freedom of worship, secularism, secular states, religious pluralism. These are

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all fundamental components of America and Americanism. That whatever you

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believe on those positions, maybe you agree with them, maybe

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you reject them. The point here is just to analyze

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the arguments that Weimhoff puts forth for how the Roman

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Catholic Church was essentially subverted. Now look at these clowns

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on YouTube, like Tim Flanders and Taylor Marshall. Taylor Marshall,

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by the Taylor Milkers, by the way, who now says

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he has visions of the church with big gazumbas literally

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esquirting milk, and the milk is either pure, it's pure

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and imperior at the same time. And he says Mary

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gave him these visions and all this nonsense. Look at

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the people that you're following, right, What does Flanders do?

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He leaves Orthodoxy to convert to Catholicism. He goes on

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Taylor Marshall talks about how dumb Orthodoxy is and gives

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all these pre least based answers. And then his hero

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proven or his new sspxish position that he's got by

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the Milker's vision that he got. I mean, I'm sorry,

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but you guys follow that. That's on you. Look at

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what you're following here. Ironically, Flanders just had wim Hof on.

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I don't know how he thinks this helps his case.

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This helps our case. So I don't know how you

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were trying to spend that. Maybe he was doing a

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little bit of let's maybe take some of this the

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fire of this argument away from Jay maybe and show that, Well,

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you don't have to, you know, you can read my

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mouse's book and you know still accept Vatican two. Just

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interpret it in the conservative way. Really, really, how do

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you interpret nostra atate in union with Cantate Domino? Yeah,

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that doesn't work. How is religious liberty of heresy? And

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then within sixty years it's the work of the spirit.

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Yeah exactly. But so what wem Off is going to

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do here in his excellent book. And by the way,

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the link to the book is in the show description.

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link to it is I think about fifty bucks because

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it's a big, fat hardback book. But get it from

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this link because I will get a cut if you

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get it from that link. Wemoff begins by talking about

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Thomas Paine. Now, if we think about finding founding idea

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logues of America, right, we think of Jefferson. We think

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of Jefferson borrowing from John Locke. We think of Locke's empiricism.

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sense philosophy Thomas Pain common sense. If I'm not in

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compass on the front of the books. I'm pretty sure

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I've read that. But regardless, the philosophy of Thomas Pain

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in common sense is completely empathetical to what is supposed

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to be traditional Catholicism. Now again, we're not here to

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talk about the traditional Orthodox position on church state relations.

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I did a whole talk, three hour talk on that.

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teaching on the role of church and state and the

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forces with in the US, the geopolitical forces during especially

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during the Cold War, they were able to utilize the

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Romancolic Church as an instrument of Americanism. Now I'm not

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saying that that means that the West was the bad

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guy in the Cold War and that therefore now Sovietism

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and Communism are the good guys. Okay, so again, do

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not stop accusing me of this stupid dialectic where people say, oh,

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you are a KGB Dougenist. We're going to cover all

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of that and show how silly that is today with

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Wimhoff's book. Now after after he talks about the essential

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argument of Thomas Paine that government is secular. The American

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ideologically must universally apply than this secular argument to give

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birth to a new world. So Wemhoff is correctly arguing

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that within the assumptions of the American liberal ideology, it

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of necessity has the impetus to universalize calin Yes, the

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rest of the world with its liberal ideology, it's inherent

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in the system now at the top. So back in

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this Enlightenment ideology, even of Americanism in the eighteen hundreds,

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even though there were already Americanists Roman Catholics like the

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Carroll family who signed on to you know, basically America's founding,

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even though they accepted religious liberty in these principles, there

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seventy two, Secretary of addisovatican I, that called this secular

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Enlightenment American principle heathen Caesarism. So remember that's heathen Caesarism

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even though the Roman Catholic natural law principles themselves are

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what give rise to this whole position. Now, Wimboff doesn't

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believe that, because he is of course a faithful traditional Catholic.

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But I will argue that I will argue in my

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further analysis of the book that the only reason that

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the Roman Catholic Church ends up in this this difficult

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question between natural rights theology natural rights philosophy is because

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of the dogmatic acceptance of tomistic philosophy and the whole

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distinction between natural theology and revealed theology, which is again

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not the orthodox position. The American ideology, he says, is

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part of liberalism. It is the Anglo American liberal tradition

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it is part and parcel of the enlightenment. Right now,

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listen to this argumentation at the beginning. The capitalist spirit

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seeks the reduction or elimination of hindrances to the spreading

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of the capitalist spirit. That means that the reduction of

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barriers to markets, the free flow of capital and commerce

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must be maintained. That is the internal impathus of the system,

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that is, the system furthering the system for its own

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systemic goals. Those best situated to gain from the capitalist

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spirit and to increase in society are the most powerful

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individuals or groups in society. Given these financial powers and

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interest of the finalinancial interest comes to dominate in this system,

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and therefore it has the impetus to extend this system everywhere.

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One of the barriers to this system is to eliminate

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a state connected church. Church and state must be divided.

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What does Constantine Pabianazza, the famous Russian statesman say, Remember

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what he argues the very beginning the reflections of a

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Russian statesman. What does he say? He says, if you

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separate church and state, you don't actually get freedom, You

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get a state that becomes the church. The state now

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dictates what is the true religion, namely statism. But I

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love the fact that at the beginning he noted the

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he's mentioned a Catholic philosopher, an Italian statesman named Amintori

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fan Fini Ami, Tony a cousin, third cousin of He's

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a phase a cousin of Tonano. Okay, this is what

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are you talking about? What are you talking about? You're

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talking about Oh yeah, yeah. He argued that the society

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necessitates the capitalist spirit spreading, since it is the essentially

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the grounding principle of the society, and so therefore it

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necessitates liberalism. So so you can't combine the older Catholic

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ideas of monarchy or imperium only Roman Empire at the

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same time as maintaining Enlightenment liberal ideology. They're two different.

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They don't make sense together. Say now, I'm not saying

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that there couldn't theoretically be systems where maybe there's a

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monarchy where you have a free er market. I mean

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perhaps in theory there are people who speculate on that

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kind of thing with Kappa, but at least historically this

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is this is a difficult oil and water to try

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to mix together, because if you have a king or

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a monarchy and a state. They typically want to limit

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economic situations such as importation of goods so that it

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doesn't wreck their economy, so that certain trades are not

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destroyed by cheap goods. Right, So hence tariffs. Right. I'm

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not saying that any of these system is ideal. I'm

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just talking about the pros and the cons of different

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types of systems that you that you go with here anyway,

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moving on, Heat says in the in the beginning, he

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lays out thet wem Hoff says, Look, if we want

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to try to trace the intelligence apparatus influence the geopolitical

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influence at Vatican two, contrary to the common narratives and

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myths of trads, which myth itself is part of the

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Cold War mythology. The idea that the Catholic Church has

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to be an a bastion of Americanism to combat Sovietism,

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that he argues, is part of the Cold War concocted

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psychological warfare narrative. That is, the narrative and myth that

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the trad swallows that he doesn't understand. So were there

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subversive Masons and other groups, sure, of course, but that's

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only part of the picture because there is a more

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powerful group utilizing and steering the Roman Catholic Church into

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being an engine of Americanism and the CIA doing this

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especially during the Cold War. And guess what this explanation

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lines up perfectly with explaining today's geopolitics. It's not any different.

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Why do you think Ratzinger stepped down? Why do you

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think Francis affirms all the globalist institutions and full on

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globalism as even the most liberal Catholics admit. Because of

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this explanation. Okay, if the tried narrative is true, are

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you seriously going to try to argue to me that

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that Francis is a KGB agent? Really? So Putin and

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Francis are teamed up what to get Trump elected? So

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now you believe the Democrat narrative in story, this is

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the New York Times narrative stuff? Right? Is that what

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you really come on? No, it's not the KGB that

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co opted the papacy. That's the false tad narrative. The

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CIA co opted the papacy. Hence why the papacy sided

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with and did what the CIA wanted during the Cold

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War under the auspices of fighting the Soviets and the Marxists.

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But that came out of price, even though the Soviets

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are bad guys, right, Absolutely, the Communists were evil. Absolutely,

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they were doing horrible things to persecute the church, murdering

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millions of Russian Christians and Orthodox martyrs and even Roman

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Catholics being murdered and tortured. Absolutely, But that's not all

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there is to the narrative or to this dialectical story,

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and we can demonstrate it. That's the thing here. It's

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no longer theorizing and conspiracy, theorizing about well, maybe there

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was the ault of indeeda that took over. No, no, no,

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we don't have to sphorize about that anymore because now

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we know specifically who, when, where, and how the Church

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was taken over and subverted to become an engine and

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is still an engine of this power structure, the same

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power structure, the Anglo American power structure. And guess who

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David Wimhoff goes to first in his book the first chapters,

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the Anglo American Establishment and their take the WASP Alliance America, England,

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Israel taking over the Catholic Church. Where does wim Hoff

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prove this tragy and hope. Carol Quigley, everything you've heard

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me talk about. This is what broke me out of

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my stupid trad mythology, beginning to read these books you see,

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and realizing the trad story doesn't add up. I mean,

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if the trad story was true when the wall fell

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and when communism fell, we should have I've seen the

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explosion right of trad Catholicism everywhere, wouldn't we have seen that?

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But no, we get Western liberalism exploding everywhere. Exactly what

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Quigley said was the whole goal. Right, tragedy is the

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two world wars. Hope is the democratic capitalism, liberalism that

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will be spread to the rest of the world. According

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to Quigley, that's what the book. The title of the book,

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writing from the CFR archives, writing from the Anglo American

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establishment power structures archives. But what happens after the fall

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of the wall liberalism? Today's Vatican is it trad? No?

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Nobody will say this. Nobody in the world will say

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today's Vatican is trad. So how did this happen? Putin Moscow? Really? No,

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the same power structure that co opted the church in

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the sixties, the CIA is still the same power structure

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that can blackmail high powered clerics into resigning, aka everything

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that came out during Benedict's resignation about how he had

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better resign or there would be a lot more hell

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to pay in his church. Now, that doesn't mean that

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Rat Singer is some hero sat the bulldog of traditionalism.

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Yeah right, give you break. I mean, have you read

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his books, Like he denies the bodily resurrection. I mean,

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this guy is total modernists. But he played the role well,

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I guess, of a pseudo traditionalist. But even that was

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not what the elite financial Rockefeller banking, Western Western elite

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establishment wanted. But let's rewind before we get to that,

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to setting the stage for how this occurred with the OSS.

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The OSS is the predecessor nineteen forty one forty two.

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The OSS comes into being in nineteen forty two. It's

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the predecessor to the CIA. And he begins his book

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talking about Henry Loose, Right, So a lot of the

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people that would go into the CIA be important people

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in media, advertising, mad men type stuff, Walter Lippmann, consulting,

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consulting agencies. They were people in the OSS, right, And

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that's where he begins his Treatise. March nineteen forty eight,

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the American Century Right Time magazine puts out Henry Loose WASP,

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pre eminent Wasp, pre eminent Skull and Bones member, WASP.

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Henry Loose was American of American could trace his lineage

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back to the American Revolution. He invented the news magazine

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with With founding Time Magazine with the mentoring of OSS

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agent Walter Lippmann, Luce put into practice the emerging science

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of psychological manipulation. They had learned these techniques from their

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wartime experience that they took from psychological warfare and put

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into mass media and advertising. How many times have you

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heard me say this? Countless throughout Berne's and all the

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global elite books that we've done. With his magazine, Loose

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would come to be one of the most powerful influential

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William Hurst Right, it's like the hearst right, So you

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go watch Citizen Kane type of guy right, and his

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goal would be to essentially be an evangelist of the

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American ideology. By nineteen forty one, Americans had a motive,

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opportunity and means to go global with the American revolution,

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utionary ideology and project right. FDR gave his famous four

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freedom speech, the four Freedoms, meaning the ideology that must

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be extended to the rest of the world, the American goals,

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the American ideology, freedom of speech, for all this kind

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of stuff. Right to do this, it was necessary for

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Americanism to go global, to create the American Century and

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defeat the fascists. Okay, so Mushlini, Germany, Japan, they got

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to go because they represent the counter doctrines to American liberalism,

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the nineteen forty one for freedom speech. This is also

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exactly consistent with what Quigley says when Quigley says that

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it was the CFR who made the decision to move

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the US from being a production based economy and a

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non interventionist type of state to expansion into imperial imperial

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colony type set up and interventionism, foreign wars and entanglements,

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and America moving away from production economy to a kind

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of central of the center of the global empire colonial

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center model, imperial colonial center model. And that was the

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CFR that made the decision to move America in that way.

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And of course the world wars, according to Quickley, were

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a big part of being able to do that. So

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America then stood for freedom, material prosperity, and happiness, the

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happy meal principle, soviets. Then in this story, this narrative

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reflected tyranny, materialism, and the collapsing of the individual. So

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that's what follows this World War two era. And this

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was what was used as part of the propaganda to

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get the US into World War two again read quickly,

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was that the four freedoms have got to We gotta

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fight the war for the freedom across the globe, right

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because how else will everybody have the right to put

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pep and poo poo. You see, we gotta spread freedom

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to the rest of the globe. So World War two

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sets the stage for the for freedoms. And then what

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follows World War two, as we all know, world War three,

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aka the Cold War. So the Cold War becomes again

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the narrative of spreading the American Democratic Enlightenment freedoms against tyranny,

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collective materialism, and the smothering of the individual in the

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religious sphere. And by the way, remember that we saw

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this in many of the global elites that we read.

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We saw it in I think it's the beginning of

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between two ages Brazinski says, we've got to energize and

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utilize the institution of the Catholic Church. It's an already

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awesomely existing international institution that we can marshal into being

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a propaganda outlet for Americanism. This is the missing element

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in a lot of the trad narratives and explanations of

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Vatican Two. Not all of them, some of them have

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grasped this. So launch hurts grasped us, to be fair,

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but they missed that Vatican Two wasn't just a subverting

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of the papacy or whatever. Vatican two was a turning

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of the papacy into an engine of Americanism. That's the

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whole plan here. It's not a conspiracy plot. It's an

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open plot. They openly said, let's do this. They didn't

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high we get a hide and secretly figure out how

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to use freemasons to do No, no, no. They openly said,

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the Recallolic Church needs to be an international evangelizing institution

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for Americanism. So then he goes on to talk about

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the important characters here. Claire Booth Luce, who was also

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a spy. Claire Brokaw became Henry Luce's second wife, she

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converted to Catholicism in nineteen forty six as a congresswoman.

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Now this is where she began her dialogues and interactions

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with Fulton Sheen. Right, she credited Fulton Sheen with her

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conversion to Catholicism, and this immediately began a debate and

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a dialogue on the issue of religious liberty and disestablishmentarianism. Right,

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because if her wife is the preeminent WASP americanist and

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she's going to convert to Catholicism supposedly under the influence

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of Fulton Sheen. Remember when trads were making fun of me,

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they made the meme which I think the meme is

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funny about Fulton Sheen essentially promoting and propping up the

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CIA narrative but basically being a kind of a CIA

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asset if he wasn't full on in the CIA. Well,

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where do you think I got it? You think it's

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made that up? I'm getting it from wim Hoff talking

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about the letters that he exchanged back and forth between

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Claire Booth Luce. They have letters that they wrote back

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and forth. Go read them. But what Claire came to

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understand in these dialogues was that it's inherent in the

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nature of America to be inescapably pragmatic. However, she thought,

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I do believe that Roman Catholicism is the one true faith.

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But she was intent upon somehow making these to mash together.

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Years after World War Two had passed, the bishops deferred

471
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to the theologians at the time of Attican two, who,

472
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,920
like John Courtney Murray, supported the American ideology and all

473
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,960
that came along with it. But how can the American

474
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,119
ideology be blended based on pragmatism with a faith that

475
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is supernatural and based on metaphysics and metaphysical realities. Of course,

476
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the next character would be John Courtney Murray, the famous Jesuit,

477
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,159
who was a rabbit ecumenist, one of the first inter

478
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,840
religious proponents of ecumans. So we're expanding not just to

479
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:54,639
older ecumenism, which in Mortolium animos is condemned as a

480
00:35:54,679 --> 00:36:00,599
possy between even Christian sects. Now we're extending it to

481
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:08,559
inter faith gatherings. So Murray would have interreligious ecumenist gatherings

482
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:14,000
with other religions no longer. Just now where would he

483
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:18,880
come up? Oh, because Jesuitism makes perfect sense with them.

484
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:24,880
The Jesuit and culturation doctrine has always been doing this

485
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,599
kind of stuff as a tool to bring anything in

486
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:32,880
anyone back under the umbrella of the papacy. Regardless of

487
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,960
whatever you believe. Just believe the papacy. And to prove that,

488
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,440
just look at the Uniates. The Unionates have for century

489
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,159
centuries been brought back into communion with Rome. They don't

490
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:47,039
even care what theology you believe. You can reject Trent,

491
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:50,559
you can reject Vatican One, you can reject Purgatory, you

492
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:52,920
can believe that Palamas is a doctor of the Church,

493
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:55,400
or you don't have to. It doesn't matter. Just accept

494
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,119
the papacy. And that's why the Jesuits were so useful

495
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:08,440
as papal evangelizers. The next character would be CD Jackson

496
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,320
of the CIA, and CD eight Jackson is who will

497
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,639
oss but he would come up with the program of

498
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,320
the doctrinal Warfare project. So you've got your intelligence guy.

499
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:26,119
CD Jackson, psychological warfare proponent expert. He works with John

500
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:30,960
Courtney Murray, the famous American Jesuit, and they're in line

501
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:39,000
with Loose, Henry and Claire to promote the wasp Protestant

502
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:45,239
Americanist doctrine. Now through with the Catholic Church. Now, there

503
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,239
was a lot of reaction by Catholics again, not just

504
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,639
at least in the fifties and forties, but going back

505
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,639
for decades, papal and cyclicals over and over and over,

506
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:02,800
rejecting liberalism, rejecting this, rejecting that, rejecting ideas. Monseigneur Fenton

507
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,920
wrote that Pious the ninth had condemned infallibly all of

508
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,760
the liberal presuppositions and the liberalism of Europe. With the

509
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,159
passage of time, however, and loosest continuing emphasis on the

510
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:22,119
topic of church state relations. In his flagship magazine Time Magazine,

511
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:27,239
Monseigneur Fenton explains that Leo the Thirteenth's writings are completely

512
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applicable to America. Yes, have you read Leo the thirteenth

513
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:34,239
where he says that freemasonry is organized naturalism, and the

514
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,119
ideas of organized naturalism, like freedom of worship, religious liberty,

515
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:47,159
secular state, They're all condemned. However, world War II had

516
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:51,360
recently ended and the Americans could declare themselves to the

517
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:56,400
clear victors. American propaganda then and psychological operations that were

518
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,320
now being felt after World War II around the world.

519
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:04,840
America increasingly appeared then as the what the last great

520
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:10,920
hope for humanity after two World Wars? The tragedy of

521
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,000
two World Wars, and the hope of Americanism being extended

522
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:26,360
to the whole world. This is this is, I mean,

523
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,599
the whole book is just mind blowing. But so get this.

524
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:33,760
At the third Annual it's some acumenical meeting that was

525
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,119
ctssay that had John Courtney Murray there. At the end

526
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:40,599
of June nineteen forty eight, John Courtney Murray presented a

527
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:47,440
paper called the Government Repression of Heresy. Oddly enough, Connall

528
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:54,039
car Connall presented Murray's paper because, oh, somebody represented him.

529
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,840
A person named Connell presented John Courtney Murray's paper because

530
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:00,679
John Courtney Murray had become ill. The paper set out

531
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Murray's position that church and state and religious liberty are

532
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,519
now necessary. Notice the fluidity of run Catholicism. Right, So

533
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:12,280
what can be dogma? And Harris, what can be dogmatic?

534
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:19,000
Infallibly claimed heresy merely fifty years before, religious liberty is

535
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:22,480
now the work of the Holy Spirit. Notice the flip flop,

536
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,920
Notice the ever changing sands upon which it's built. It

537
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,519
remained so during the course of the dispute Fenton, Murray

538
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:43,320
and others leading with the promulgation. Oh wait, I'm sorry,

539
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,880
Monseigneor Clifford Fenton. Excuse me? Was the editor. I'm getting

540
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,599
that this is the wrong Fenton here. Excuse me. This

541
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,239
is a liberal guy, so I read that wrong. This

542
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,920
liberal guy, Monseigneur Clifford Fenton is one of the key

543
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,719
proponents of Americanism. So he was at this ecumenical meeting

544
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:05,880
with John Courtney Murray, whoever Connell is in Monseigneur Fenton.

545
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:11,960
So they were the leading proponents that Vatican two needed

546
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,599
to accept a document called Dignitatis Humane. The essence of

547
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:19,000
Murray's position was that the state need only base any

548
00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:24,199
of its actions on natural law. This was the view

549
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,239
that Murray first articulated in this intercredal discussion, but in

550
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,199
that discussion he at least recognized that there was some

551
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,320
pre eminence to divine positive law. To Murray, however, the

552
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,760
American system of church and state in the American religious

553
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:46,360
liberty were thus now completely melding and consistent with natural

554
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,920
law as it ensured societal peace and the acceptance of

555
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,159
Catholic doctrine as one of the many right, So as

556
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:55,920
long as you just have an acceptance of natural Now

557
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,440
do you see the problem here with divorcing any area

558
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:06,400
of life from revealed theology? Right? What is the What

559
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,000
does Losky say? What does stan ELOI say? What does

560
00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:13,840
Maximus say? For us? Nature itself reveals Christ? Right, there's

561
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,639
no strictly speaking natural theology. If you read Saint Justin

562
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:22,280
Papash's famous essay The Knowledge of God, the whole treatise

563
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,239
is an essay against natural theology. We don't do that

564
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,440
because there's no area of life. There's no reasoning of

565
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:32,360
man that's autonomous or operates on its own without being

566
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,599
grounded in its logie or divine revelation. So there's no

567
00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:39,440
such thing as natural theology. There's no such thing as

568
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:47,920
natural law that functions apart from Christ or the Trinity.

569
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:57,559
Gunshots going off, Maybe it's fireworks anyway. In reality, John

570
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:01,159
Courtney Mury's paper was a refutation of the Catholic doctrine,

571
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:09,719
which Monseigneur John Ryan explained twenty five years earlier. Right, So,

572
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,159
Monseigneur John Ryan, even twenty five years earlier, was noting

573
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:22,320
that religious liberty and the desacralization of the state is heresy.

574
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:27,519
Within twenty five years, something goes from being heretical and

575
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:31,079
normatively understood it's heretical. And I can give you a

576
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:35,679
whole list of encyclicals prior to the twentieth century condemning

577
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,239
the idea that the state can be secular and should

578
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,840
be separated from the Church and its positive divine law.

579
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,719
So all Murray did was basically give Americanism and give

580
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,119
one little clause about but there's still divine positive law. Yeah,

581
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:54,119
this is the trick that they always do. All of

582
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:57,920
Vatican two is premised on this ambiguity. To read it

583
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:05,599
however you want. However, only twenty five well, actually a

584
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:10,159
couple decades earlier to this, the Feast of Christ the

585
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,480
King had been instituted. Do you know why the Pope

586
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,480
thirty or so years prior to this institute of the

587
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,400
feasts of Christ the King to combat the idea that

588
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:26,719
the state was secular. You have a whole feast enacted

589
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,039
by the Pope, Feasts of Christ the King, and I

590
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:35,280
think even the Vatican two people still celebrate this feast.

591
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,239
It's like you have a whole council that rejects this.

592
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,400
The council says that the Spirit is leading us to

593
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,000
accept religious liberty. We even now believe that Hindus love

594
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:53,280
God in their own way. But you still celebrate the

595
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,719
feasts of Christ the King, which was instituted to refute

596
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,039
the heresy of religious liberty and a secular state. Okay, yeah, nice. Try.

597
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:05,320
One of the key institutions that would be created to

598
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:11,280
help promote this and this story is Union Theological Seminary.

599
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:17,440
Who created Union Theological Seminary. The Rockefellers, the rock Fillers

600
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:23,119
created Union Theological Seminary as an engine of American ideology.

601
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,599
Henry both Henry Luce was a trustee on the Rockefeller's

602
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:32,679
board of Union Theological Seminary. Now he could decide and

603
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,280
they could decide who would qualify to be a minister

604
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:44,719
in the Protestant world. The Union Theological Seminary WASP central

605
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,599
making everybody accept in the Protestant world all this stuff.

606
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:55,639
And guess what, all of the Catholic institutions then accept

607
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:02,239
the higher criticism of all the wasp crowd, the wasp

608
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:08,400
higher critical textual studies. So it's the same error as

609
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,400
the same ideology being foisted to do what well, if

610
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,920
you know about the the social Gospel right, social gospel

611
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:20,679
is all it's Marxist. Well, there's Marxist elements to the

612
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,119
social Gospel, but the social Gospel is actually foisted by

613
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,400
people like the rock Fillers intentionally because it would it's all.

614
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,239
There's a whole chapter in the rock Fells biography on

615
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,960
the social Gospel and how they wanted to transform Christianity

616
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:45,920
into an engine that could work with the American ideology pragmatism, capitalism, liberalism,

617
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:59,719
they all go together. While at Hint, While at Union

618
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,239
Feel Logical Seminary, there were a series of articles written.

619
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:10,639
Murray was presented as defending the Catholic position in exchange

620
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:15,559
of articles with Dean Walter Russell Bowie of Union Theological

621
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:18,840
Seminary when Henry LEAs was trustee. It was a stage

622
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,400
fight that was designed to advance the American agenda of

623
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,000
elevating the American idea of social organization. The context of

624
00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:32,920
all these articles was the new red Scare. Who's behind

625
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:38,639
the red Scare? A bunch of clowns, American liberals, wasps

626
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:43,000
and liberal Jesuits. So guess what. The red scare is

627
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:46,360
exaggerated and it's a myth. Now, I'm not saying that

628
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,760
there weren't evil Soviets. There are. But what he's beginning

629
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,280
to point out is that the first inklings of the

630
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:59,840
coming Cold War gibberish is coming out of these nineteen

631
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,599
forty nine articles where John Courtney Murray is engaging with

632
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:11,559
leading Protestant scholars, and the Protestant scholars are out of

633
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:16,400
Union Theological Seminary, Time Life Magazine, Rockefeller stuff, and there're

634
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:19,239
bff with John Courtney Murray and the Jesuits. Now, this

635
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,239
is gonna get even crazier. You think I'm talking about

636
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,559
interesting things now, bro, you don't even know where this

637
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:29,039
is going. We're gonna go into straight up trip and acid. Yes,

638
00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:32,880
John Courtney Murray will straight up go trip acid. There

639
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,280
will be a direct connection between Jesuits and MK ultra.

640
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:40,760
It's not a lame. There are a lot of Tards's

641
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,440
a lot of slow boys on the internet who go

642
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:48,079
wild with Jesuit stuff. But it's not all wrong. John

643
00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:52,159
Courtney Murray will be intimately connected to CIA. He's one

644
00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:53,880
of the first people to trip acid. Did you know

645
00:48:53,920 --> 00:49:04,000
that is that jesuit? Yes, not hippies carry grant Alis Huxley.

646
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,760
John Courtney Murray, the Jesuit JFK. They all tripped acid

647
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,639
way before any of the dumb hippies did. But nobody

648
00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:15,920
knows that. Nobody tells you that. Well, if you had

649
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:21,079
read Esselter harry Wood, Hollywood, Harrywood, Esylteric Harrywood. That sounds Freudian,

650
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:23,639
din't it. If you had read Esleter Hollywood, you would

651
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:31,039
know that because I talked about it. Anyway, the period

652
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:34,840
of nineteen fifty to nineteen fifty two is when this

653
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,400
really kicks off the battle between faithful Catholics. And here

654
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:47,360
we're talking about traditionally minded Catholics versus Americanists. Right. This

655
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,000
is the John Courtney Murray Wasp crew. By the way,

656
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:55,360
I mean you're getting you're getting some good information here.

657
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,920
So if anybody wants to support me with super chats here,

658
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,119
I mean, I'm the guy who helps you guys out

659
00:50:01,159 --> 00:50:03,880
by reading the eight hundred page books so that you

660
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,239
don't have to even though I suggest that you do it.

661
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,920
But not everybody has time to go and read eight

662
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,079
hundred page books. And we've got almost four hundred tonight.

663
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:17,159
So if you would like to ask questions or support

664
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,599
with stream labs, please do. There's the link to do

665
00:50:20,639 --> 00:50:28,119
your super chats via stream labs anyway, So he goes

666
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:33,920
on to talk about the So the leading americanists were

667
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:40,360
Gustav Weigel, the Jesuit, all the writers at American magazine,

668
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:52,960
and then he lets Spanish Jesuits who saw the Americans

669
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,360
were seeking to canonize a political philosophy Spanish Jesuits. Some

670
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,000
of the Spanish Jesuits took issue with this. The struggle

671
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:03,440
begins to take place in Catholic journal journals, American media,

672
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:09,079
and periodicals. The debate becomes whether natural law could function

673
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:14,760
alone as the basis for the state. Now. Ultimately, what

674
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,079
happens is that the proponents of this Jesuit liberal Jesuit

675
00:51:18,119 --> 00:51:24,599
type position end up having to essentially adopt Anglo American liberalism,

676
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:27,519
and the natural law theory that they promote is the

677
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:32,960
natural law theory of the Enlightenment. He even mentions Christ

678
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,679
the King the feast, whether or not you had to

679
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,639
whether or not Christ was lord of the social sphere. Obviously,

680
00:51:41,679 --> 00:51:44,719
if you have this autonomous position of natural law and

681
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,280
natural law theory, it consistently leads to the position that no,

682
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,440
there is an area, namely natural law, that is not

683
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:58,800
necessary to be informed by divine positive law. So ironically

684
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,920
they're both wrong and they're both right. That's the thing

685
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:07,159
that Weimholf doesn't get, because all the French revolutionary people

686
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,639
are doing is being consistent with what I just told

687
00:52:11,679 --> 00:52:15,519
you a couple of nights ago in rejecting the parapatetic axiom.

688
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,519
What's the parapateetic axiom of Aristotle and Aquinas? There's nothing

689
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:22,199
in the intellect that's not first in the senses. This

690
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,800
is the whole basis of natural law, theory of natural rights,

691
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,519
and natural theology, right, And all you have to do

692
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:33,800
is go read David Hume, who says, on that basis,

693
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:37,840
you don't actually know causation, you don't actually know teleology,

694
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,599
you don't actually know anything metaphysical, because none of that

695
00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:43,440
is actually in your sense data. It's all interpreted, interpreted

696
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:52,079
and assumed. Right, And so if God is not an

697
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:56,480
object of sense data, then you never know God. So

698
00:52:56,559 --> 00:53:02,440
the atheist Enlightenment Humian people are more consistent with the

699
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:09,280
peripatetic axiom than Aquinas and Aerosol are. So here what

700
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:15,320
I see is two proponents of autonomous man fighting it out.

701
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,920
On the one hand, more consistent liberals Hume and its

702
00:53:19,039 --> 00:53:23,760
Enlightenment people represented by Jesuits and Americanists and traditional Catholics

703
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,480
who are inconsistent in accepting the peripatetic axiom and tunism

704
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,920
and at the same time trying to defend the fact

705
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:35,079
that the state has to be quote Catholic. That's why,

706
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:37,920
that's why this is actually a longer debate. Did you

707
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,239
know that Bellarman has a whole treatise too. Bellarman has

708
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,119
a whole argument about political philosophy and religious freedm Why

709
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:46,079
has this been a debate Because both of these sides

710
00:53:46,119 --> 00:53:50,119
are trying to make sense of natural law theory. Guess

711
00:53:50,159 --> 00:53:54,280
what that is the problem? Natural law theory is the

712
00:53:54,360 --> 00:54:00,199
issue McCurry says, for five dollars was what do you

713
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,599
think I mean by wasp, white Anglo Saxon Protestant right

714
00:54:03,679 --> 00:54:11,760
the oss the CIA were dominated by Wasps, Rockefellers, JP, Morgan, Carnegie,

715
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,039
zillionaire WASP families, white Anglo Saxon Protestants. What do you

716
00:54:17,039 --> 00:54:24,679
think their ideology was? Americanism, religious liberty, Protestantism, not classical Protestantism,

717
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:41,840
not reformed traditional reform Christianity, liberalized Protestantism, social gospel. Thus

718
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,440
it became necessary. This is great. Listen to this. John

719
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,679
Courtney Murray was not only able to understand the important

720
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,119
aspects of psychological warfare. Catholic professor and scion of a

721
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:59,119
wealthy family, Edward P. Lilley designed and implemented a doctrinal

722
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:05,000
or ideological warfare program. He directed and coordinated his plans

723
00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:11,239
to utilize and infiltrate Did you hear me? John Courtney

724
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,880
Murray was not the only one to see the value

725
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:18,599
in using religions. Catholic professor and wealthy family elite magnate

726
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:25,039
Edward P. Lilly designed and implemented the doctrinal ideological warfare program.

727
00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:28,360
It'll be CD Jackson who implements it right, So I'm

728
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,840
not contradicting myself. I'm just pointing out that the guy

729
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,199
who cooked it up was Edward P. Lilly. He said,

730
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:40,079
we can infiltrate Christianity, the various forms Hinduism, Buddhism, and

731
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:45,360
Islam to further the message that America is the good

732
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,440
and consistent principle by which all the world should be organized,

733
00:55:51,719 --> 00:56:00,400
even the religions should subordinate to Americanism. In further plan,

734
00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:07,920
the government utilized the Perennial American approach of emphasizing practicalism, pragmatism,

735
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:15,000
practicality over principle or metaphysic. Catholic priests were thus important

736
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:20,360
assistants now to the US government in making this happen globally.

737
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,760
Now let me hear you trads. Now, let's hear the

738
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:31,679
trads bitch about Cicero papism. Your whole church is a

739
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:45,639
CIA propaganda outlet, admitted by your own trads. All of

740
00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:49,320
this had great sick significance for Catholicism. The American Principles

741
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:54,960
and Enlightenment now inflamed Americanism through their efforts efforts of

742
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,400
re engineering societies, primarily by elevating America and Americanism to

743
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,760
the ideal now in the minds of the whole world.

744
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,920
Americanism was given a boost now via Catholics in Europe,

745
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,440
and that affected prelates who would be present in Rome.

746
00:57:13,039 --> 00:57:16,599
Wallace Irvin Junior, an advisor to the Psychological Strategy Board

747
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:20,920
of the US government, was responsible for coordinating psychological operations

748
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,280
and doctrinal warfare operations, and explained the significant and important

749
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,280
aspect of this phenomena. He wrote, the traditional cultural links

750
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:35,079
of Latin America have been with Continental Europe, that is France, Germany,

751
00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:39,760
Spain and Italy now much more than the now. Once

752
00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:42,800
when Paris fell in nineteen forty, the people of Buenos

753
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,079
Areas wept in the streets. Thus, in cultural as well

754
00:57:46,119 --> 00:57:49,159
as in economic and social factors, a new orientation will

755
00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:55,960
be developed. The US Americanism. Now Latin America is not

756
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:02,719
a primarily European connected entity, comes an Americanist entity. When

757
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:08,000
European Catholics, especially French, Germans and Belgium's, went Americanist, then

758
00:58:08,119 --> 00:58:11,639
the Third World went Americanist, and this was especially true

759
00:58:11,639 --> 00:58:16,480
in the case of the Catholic Church. Next he moves

760
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:22,960
on to talk about other instances of meetings. Now get this.

761
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,559
Now we're going to have some of the CIA level stuff.

762
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:33,199
Step in nineteen fifty three was an important year for

763
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,960
Henry Luce and Time magazine. Claire booth Loose became an

764
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,280
ambassador to Italy, and this put the Louses in close

765
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,440
contact with the Pope, the center of the Catholic Church.

766
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,280
This also was an important year for the church and

767
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,960
state for the issue of religious liberty. Cardinal Otaviani gave

768
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,880
a talk in March in which he stated the Catholic

769
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,239
position This greatly distressed and angered a lot of the

770
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:05,039
proponents of Americanism. In December, Papias the twelfth issued Shay

771
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:11,239
Rescue Shay RIESI, which the Americans and Americanists both claim

772
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,599
to support. So the Pope tries to have this mediating

773
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:18,199
position as always, and both sides tried to claim it

774
00:59:18,239 --> 00:59:22,599
supported them, so throwing a bone to both sides, the

775
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:28,320
classic papal bureaucratic move. These two talks revealed a dynamic

776
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:33,079
that was already extant in the Church. The dynamic was

777
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:37,400
that there was becoming a clear division between liberal Enlightenment

778
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,719
ideology in the Catholic Church and the traditional position. John

779
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,039
Courtney Murray, he says, was the leading proponent of this

780
00:59:46,199 --> 00:59:50,920
Americanist idea. He was accompanied by a fellow Jesuit named

781
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,599
Robert Lieber. Lieber was the Pope's confidant and a strong

782
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:59,480
supporter of John Courtney Murray's efforts. This was no surprise,

783
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:03,159
give that liber was both a Jesuit and an intelligence

784
01:00:03,239 --> 01:00:07,039
asset for America. Liber had been a source of intelligence

785
01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:10,639
during World War Two and remained so in the Cold War.

786
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,559
To this day, the CIA has not released the records

787
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:23,559
on Jesuit libre shocker. Now, obviously this is the case.

788
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,760
Jesuit institutions are still connected to the CIA. That's why

789
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,519
they promote Americanism, That's why they were behind the whole

790
01:00:30,519 --> 01:00:40,880
thing in Ukraine, the Fordham Jesuit Fordamites, Jesuit CIA Ukraine.

791
01:00:41,519 --> 01:00:48,920
It's not rocket science. CIA and Time Magazine then had

792
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:54,000
a cozy ongoing relationship. CD Jackson and Klaus Dorn exemplify

793
01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:58,679
that relationship. Jackson had long worked with the intelligence, the

794
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,280
US intelligence community its highest level. Klaus Dorn gathered intelligence

795
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,440
on a number of events and maintained contacts with prominent

796
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,400
and influential people in Europe. So here you have high

797
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,920
level CIA people directly working with Time Magazine and now

798
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,440
directly coordinating with the Vatican via Claire booth Loose as

799
01:01:16,519 --> 01:01:22,920
ambassador to Italy. Now we get the thesis of the

800
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,639
whole thing. What's the whole plan here? Well, I already

801
01:01:26,639 --> 01:01:33,320
said it, but it appears that CD Jackson and Klaus

802
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:37,840
Dorn had now gained contacts within the Vatican itself, which

803
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:42,559
provided them with vital information on the personalities, prelates and

804
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:46,360
events that afflicted the Pope and the catholc Church's hierarchy.

805
01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:48,920
So here's the crux of the whole book right here,

806
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,559
here's the whole thesis, the American Proposition. Nineteen fifty three

807
01:01:53,639 --> 01:01:56,360
is the key year where they set this forward. It

808
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,559
was in Rome that Henry Luce interjected the American Opposition,

809
01:02:01,159 --> 01:02:04,519
a doctrinal weapon that he developed along with John Courtney

810
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:08,920
Murray from the Lily Dude right by which they would

811
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,360
inject into the Caloch Church the doctrine of Americanism into

812
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,519
the veins of the Caloch Church. This was done November

813
01:02:17,559 --> 01:02:20,840
twenty nine, nineteen fifty three, in Rome at the Prodeo University,

814
01:02:21,199 --> 01:02:26,440
an institution started by Dominican Felix Morleone, who received back

815
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,920
in support from American elites and the CIA. The Prodeo

816
01:02:30,119 --> 01:02:33,079
Institution was thus a CIA front and cut out that

817
01:02:33,159 --> 01:02:37,360
taught young Catholics, especially those in business, primarily from Latin countries,

818
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,480
the society should be organized along the lines of Americanist principles.

819
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,679
Prodeo thus first taught the Americanists proposition to its students,

820
01:02:47,159 --> 01:02:50,639
and they in turn went throughout the world spreading the

821
01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:55,559
Americanist ideals. All of this occurred with approval of the

822
01:02:55,599 --> 01:03:00,079
cal Church. The American Prelates certainly approved a pro day,

823
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:07,199
as did the Dominican Order and Monsignor Giovanni Montini, later

824
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:15,280
known as Paul the sixth. So much for the trad

825
01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:20,199
commy mythology. That just blew the trad communist mythology out

826
01:03:20,199 --> 01:03:26,880
of the water. Paul the six secret communist the Marxists

827
01:03:27,159 --> 01:03:31,440
AA one O two five AA one O two five

828
01:03:31,719 --> 01:03:37,159
is low level, low IQ propaganda concocted by these people.

829
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,440
I think Wemhoff even mentions AA one O two five.

830
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,599
By the way, remember when we did the analysis of

831
01:03:50,639 --> 01:03:55,039
Malachai Martin's book, What did we find there? Oh? Oh,

832
01:03:55,079 --> 01:03:57,920
Malachai Martin just happens to line up in doing the

833
01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:02,440
very thing that wem Hoff calls out. Yes, Keys of

834
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:08,719
this blood just happens to be perfect Cold war propaganda

835
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:24,079
to feed to trads, all right. So he's moving like

836
01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:30,679
very slowly in these sections with these different people. Henry

837
01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:33,119
Luce had for a long time desired to create something

838
01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:39,320
called the World Economic Plan or web WAP. I'm joking, WEP,

839
01:04:41,199 --> 01:04:50,159
you like my web my World Economic Plan? And basically

840
01:04:50,199 --> 01:04:54,480
this was a new way to spread American liberalism to

841
01:04:54,599 --> 01:04:59,840
the rest of the world. There is a rot. This

842
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:03,000
is Weimhoff's argument a rot begins to appear in the

843
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:07,760
Church Nineteeneen fifty three to fifty six. Many support it

844
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,360
and approve of Walter Lippmann's public philosophy, which was devoid

845
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,440
of any notion of Christ and Christianity, but was assisted

846
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,360
by the Rockefeller Organization in their efforts at discerning a

847
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:23,360
new national purpose. Most importantly, Lippmann stood with Henry Luce

848
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:28,360
and the Rockefellers in a generic religious movement that would

849
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:34,760
be where they would prop up Charles Wesley Lowery's Frasco FRASCO.

850
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:37,079
I don't know what FRASCO is, but some kind of

851
01:05:37,679 --> 01:05:44,199
non denominational, inter ecumenical thing. FRASCO is a willing supporter

852
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:49,679
of the US government's efforts abroad, especially in the ideological

853
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:55,280
area of ideological warfare and co opting religions. So notice

854
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,840
what we see here. Cut out organizations now utilize religions

855
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:05,360
for the ends of the state. What state, the American ideology,

856
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:14,639
the American project, the American century, the American proposition. The

857
01:06:14,719 --> 01:06:17,960
reason for this urgency of action now led to other groups.

858
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,760
The National Organization for Decent Literature became part of this

859
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,760
entity to the promoting of Americanism within the Catholic Church.

860
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,480
The urgency of action was needed. Why, because of Communism

861
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:37,119
the rids right. The way to victory and prosperity was

862
01:06:37,159 --> 01:06:39,800
a moral way that elevated the faith of America and

863
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,519
the American form of government over all others. In other words,

864
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,559
if you joined the anti criminist crusade, you could have

865
01:06:45,599 --> 01:06:48,079
a good life. If you did not, bad things would

866
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:53,880
happen to you. Luce and Murray organized this as a propaganda,

867
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:58,800
psychological warfare outfit. This is a concocted thing. It's not real,

868
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:03,920
it's not true. That doesn't mean that the Soviets and

869
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:09,719
Communism are good guys anymore than I don't know. Is

870
01:07:09,719 --> 01:07:15,119
Saddam Hussein a good guy because we attacked him? No,

871
01:07:16,719 --> 01:07:20,280
Saddam Hussein was a CIA asset, trained by the CIA,

872
01:07:20,599 --> 01:07:25,000
did black ops for the CIA, installed as a Western puppet,

873
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,599
and then they got rid of him. Does that make

874
01:07:28,679 --> 01:07:30,760
him a good guy because he's against us and we're

875
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,159
about No. Of course I stopped thinking in such simplistic

876
01:07:33,199 --> 01:07:43,159
ways already by this time. Bye. By nineteen fifty six,

877
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,920
Monseigneur Fenton found that or whoever this is, I guess

878
01:07:50,159 --> 01:07:53,119
he means the same Fenton from before. Fenton found that

879
01:07:53,159 --> 01:07:56,599
many of the church's prelates were no longer serious about

880
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,400
the belief of the mission of the Church herself. Now

881
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:04,800
enters the Rockefellers. The Americanists sense an opportunity, an open

882
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:10,119
window nineteen fifty six to fifty nine. President Eisenhower in

883
01:08:10,199 --> 01:08:13,559
nineteen fifty seven gives his inaugural address the Americans experiment

884
01:08:13,679 --> 01:08:17,319
has for generations fired the passion and courage of millions

885
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:22,760
seeking freedom, equality and opportunity. Right, so he reinvigorates this mythology.

886
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:28,720
Like minded Americans then associated freedom with materialism. The American

887
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,119
system of social organization, with its economics, is now identical

888
01:08:32,119 --> 01:08:37,039
to freedom and material prosperity. This was a great work

889
01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:41,279
of political psychological warfare. The Rockefellers did their part in

890
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:45,039
devising and advancing an idyllic image of America through the

891
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:50,479
panel work of the Rockefeller Foundation Rockefeller Brothers Fund. Murray

892
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,600
made a presentation in which he explained the American consensus.

893
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,039
At the heart of the American proposition was the liberal

894
01:08:57,079 --> 01:09:02,119
tradition of the Enlightenment. Not that hard. Okay, it's not

895
01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:05,640
rocket science that we're doing here. Okay, we can't mix

896
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,000
oil and water? Is the point, Trads, Do you hear me?

897
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,439
Fenton saw that materialism was gradually strangling the desire for

898
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,119
truth and the willingness for those to suffer for truth.

899
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,520
The church leadership was ossifying, while the younger Catholics were

900
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:27,720
more tolerant of error. Fenton was not deterred, however, and

901
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,600
wrote to define the enemy, therefore hoping to bring them

902
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,760
into the fold and better defeat them. Fenton described the

903
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,720
view of many Americans, including Americans founders. The Founders were

904
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:41,319
eminently practical men intent on creating a commercial society. They

905
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:43,199
held that every religion was good if they had a

906
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:48,079
standard of conduct that could be conducive to business, business church.

907
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:53,079
The enemy was liberalism, But unfortunately Fenton could not bring

908
01:09:53,159 --> 01:09:58,960
himself to see that the American idea is liberalism, as

909
01:09:59,119 --> 01:10:07,960
John Courtney Murray had openly stated to the Rockefellers at

910
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,560
the height of the Cold War during nineteen sixty presidential election.

911
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,520
While the Catholic Church rated itself for Vatican two, the

912
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,000
power Trio was threatened with dissolution. That bode ill for Murray,

913
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:21,720
who counted up the looses so much for his credibility

914
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,439
within church. Within the church who counted on excuse me,

915
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,760
the loses for credibility. The Loos's in turn held credibility

916
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,479
with Catholics, since Claire was now a Catholic, married to

917
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:36,760
a Presbyterian and friends with Fulton Sheen. Should that union dissolve,

918
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,159
then there would be a problem. Harry Claire and John

919
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:42,520
Courtney Murray thus stayed together due to the efforts of

920
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:47,560
Murray and guess what, LSD. Yes, you heard me right,

921
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:56,880
Let me reread that loose. Henry Claire Booth and John

922
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:03,079
Courtney Murray stayed together in intimate friendships due to the

923
01:11:03,119 --> 01:11:11,560
efforts of John Courtney Murray an LSD. The LSD came

924
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,439
into their lives through one gerald Heard, one of the

925
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,640
most influential men of the twentieth century in terms of culture.

926
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:22,039
Gerald Heard focused modern man on himself and espouse the

927
01:11:22,079 --> 01:11:25,279
idea that the business man is the guru or ultimate

928
01:11:25,319 --> 01:11:30,960
authority in modern life. Talk about business church. This is

929
01:11:31,039 --> 01:11:33,840
like Don Draper par excellence. Right. He goes off to

930
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,199
Esslon right at the end of The Madmen. The cultural

931
01:11:36,199 --> 01:11:40,279
philosophy was perfect for advancing the American proposition. So here's

932
01:11:40,399 --> 01:11:48,119
your lens trads. Here's who you're having to defend, Jesuits,

933
01:11:48,159 --> 01:11:51,359
tripping balls with the founder of Time magazine and his

934
01:11:51,439 --> 01:12:00,640
so called Catholic wife. Now here's where things get more interesting.

935
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:05,479
Unconditional surrender. This is wim Hoff's analysis, is that by

936
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,159
nineteen sixty the trads had lost. It was over. Dude,

937
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:14,079
give it up. You're not going to reform the Catholic

938
01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:18,159
Church because they're going to dogmatize Vatican two. Give it up.

939
01:12:19,079 --> 01:12:22,199
The liberals have won. They have now promoted the liberal

940
01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:26,520
ideology in the Catholic Church. It's a secular state. Now,

941
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:33,920
don't try to bring Catholic monarchies and Christian states into

942
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,119
the picture anymore. That will no longer be countenanced. And

943
01:12:37,199 --> 01:12:41,079
anybody who's deluded, excuse me, but John Paul, the second

944
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,960
Rat singer, and I think for insis, they have participated

945
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:51,760
in the decatholicization of multiple European states. I'm saying literally

946
01:12:52,159 --> 01:12:57,800
advising that the state give up its Catholic state status.

947
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:07,800
Nineteen sixties are crucial because under all of this pressure, money,

948
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:14,680
WASP Foundation money, constant boom boom boom media, all this

949
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:20,439
dumb media everywhere, constant, they basically browbeat everybody into accepting

950
01:13:22,399 --> 01:13:25,800
in the nineteen sixties a pledge. They literally sign a pledge.

951
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,720
I'm not joking, Okay, it's an actual thing. You must

952
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:33,199
sign on to this, sign on to this pledge. The

953
01:13:33,239 --> 01:13:39,199
surrender came when the Catholic leadership in academia, in the press, theology, business,

954
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,239
and civic life signed a statement endorsing the American system

955
01:13:43,279 --> 01:13:47,760
of church and state relation. This was accompanied by JFK's

956
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:53,119
speech at Houston and Jesuit Gustav Weigel's speech in nineteen

957
01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:58,560
twenty seven, where he the Parrot let out the paradigm

958
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:03,760
by which Catholic politicians have acted ever since. The new paradigm,

959
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,560
according to Weigel, for Catholic politicians, would be in their

960
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:13,279
public life they would support all kinds of things like abration, prime,

961
01:14:14,319 --> 01:14:16,640
who knows whatever else, But in their private lives they

962
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:22,640
would be Catholic. What was the price of this? Supposedly, now,

963
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,680
Weimoff makes the argument that Catholics wanted a seat at

964
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,600
the table, right, this is the Godfather argument. Supposedly, Oh,

965
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,199
Catholics just wanted a seat at the table with the

966
01:14:33,279 --> 01:14:36,840
powerful wasps and all this kind of stuff. Really, that's

967
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,079
all that it was about. A seat at the table

968
01:14:39,119 --> 01:14:43,520
to make money. No. Actually, if you read the argumentation

969
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:54,560
of the natural law proponents, they're actually more consistent because

970
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:59,760
natural law does not dictate that the state has any

971
01:15:00,039 --> 01:15:05,760
inherent sacral property. The state has sacral property on the

972
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:10,720
basis of Genesis. And none of these dumb Jesuits believe

973
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,159
that Genesis teaches a creation story, do they No, of

974
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:16,399
course not. They all believe evolution. They've been the greatest

975
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:22,960
evangelizers of evolution for the last century. The only way

976
01:15:23,039 --> 01:15:28,079
for the state to be seen as a religious institution

977
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,880
fundamentally is if you believe Genesis, that God instituted the

978
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:39,359
state and the death penalty to Noah, and that in

979
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:44,279
continuity with Genesis, the state under Israel is under God.

980
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:49,319
It's a sacral institution. And in continuity with the Byzantine model,

981
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,399
the state is under God as a sacral institution. We

982
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,840
have never given that up. We will never give up

983
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:03,520
the double headed eagle the Catholic position by accepting natural

984
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:11,359
law theory, letting that continue to erode away during the

985
01:16:11,399 --> 01:16:18,079
Reformation counter Reformation, well Scholastic Reformation counter Reformation periods. Once

986
01:16:18,119 --> 01:16:20,279
you have the natural law theory coming to pre Emini.

987
01:16:20,319 --> 01:16:23,479
It's building your system on natural law. All you got

988
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,520
to do is go read David Him. David Him's more consistent.

989
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:31,520
So my point is that the Jesuits here are They're

990
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:35,319
obviously awful, But if you believe in natural law, why

991
01:16:35,319 --> 01:16:40,000
would you not come to their conclusions. If I can

992
01:16:40,039 --> 01:16:44,920
interpret the world without revelation, then I can erect a

993
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:52,239
state without revelation. I don't need divine law positive divine law,

994
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,560
but I can't. That's the point. You don't have the

995
01:16:55,600 --> 01:17:01,840
ability to properly interpret the fallen world apart from revealed theology.

996
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:07,279
And that doesn't just apply to studying nature. It applies

997
01:17:07,319 --> 01:17:12,119
to the role of church and state. Revelation dictates the

998
01:17:12,199 --> 01:17:16,359
relationship of church and state, and millennia of Christianity have

999
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:21,079
already determined the relation of church and state, namely coronation ceremonies.

1000
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:28,239
So all of this, in this nonsense of Jesuit Americanism,

1001
01:17:28,399 --> 01:17:36,239
it represents a forfeiting of the orthodox traditional Christian position.

1002
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,800
So that's how I'm saying. In one sense, the trads

1003
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:45,439
here are right, but in another sense they're also wrong,

1004
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,920
and the Jesuits are right because they're trying to argue

1005
01:17:49,159 --> 01:17:53,960
everything on the same liberal grounds natural theology. So it's

1006
01:17:54,000 --> 01:18:00,279
just two idiot positions based on older liberalism arguing it out.

1007
01:18:01,399 --> 01:18:07,159
And I'm saying, yes, Enlightenment liberalism comes from the parapatetic axiom.

1008
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,960
Whatever is not in the census is not in the intellect.

1009
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,880
Anything in the intellect must first be in the census.

1010
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,800
That's the whole Tomistic system is built on that. And

1011
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,960
Rome adopted wholesale as it's official philosophy, the Tomistic system.

1012
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,359
I don't mean wholesale as if they believe everything Thomas believe.

1013
01:18:24,399 --> 01:18:28,119
I know that they don't believe everything Thomas believe. But

1014
01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:31,560
the philosophy is classical foundationalism, which is based on the

1015
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,640
peripatetic axiom. There's no disputing that. It's not in debate

1016
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:45,119
now FDR, who does FDR serve as he's promoting all

1017
01:18:45,119 --> 01:18:50,680
this gibber jabber, He is a banking asset. There's no

1018
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:58,319
bit debate about that. Go read what Kruh the chapter

1019
01:18:58,399 --> 01:19:03,399
in quickly about and quickly explains how the whole FDR

1020
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:08,479
thing was just a decade long plus scam to centralize

1021
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:12,640
the wealth for a while through the socialism projects, then

1022
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:18,640
shift the country back over to privatization, let the wealth build,

1023
01:19:19,239 --> 01:19:22,960
then shift all that wealth over to a socializing system.

1024
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,840
And it quickly says that all of this that the

1025
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,720
debt that was racked up under the FDR socialization projects

1026
01:19:31,359 --> 01:19:35,399
was all owed to the international bankers. So it was

1027
01:19:35,399 --> 01:19:40,199
a huge scam, according to Quigley from the CFR archives,

1028
01:19:40,279 --> 01:19:48,680
not according to conspiracy theorists. According to Quigley, CIA Operative

1029
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:55,119
and Time Magazine employee Klaus Dorn had stated that an

1030
01:19:55,319 --> 01:19:59,279
entire revolution had now occurred by Vatican two in the

1031
01:19:59,319 --> 01:20:07,560
Catholic Church. CIA Operative Klaus Dorn Time Magazine employee Klaus

1032
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:15,399
Dorn wrote, a virtual revolution had now occurred in the

1033
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:21,600
Catholic Church at the beginning of Vatican two. They knew

1034
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:30,479
what they were doing. Paul Blanchard observed that Vatican two

1035
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:35,159
was now the opportunity for the American ideology to re

1036
01:20:35,279 --> 01:20:39,319
engineer societies. I've read Paul Blincherd's whole analysis of Vatican Two.

1037
01:20:39,359 --> 01:20:43,680
That's exactly correct. Secon Vatican Council provided an opportunity for

1038
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:48,359
Americanism to be harnessed, for the Catholic Church to be

1039
01:20:48,359 --> 01:20:52,479
a engine for Americanism, and for the world dominion, which

1040
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:56,000
FDR had announced in modern times with this for freedom speech.

1041
01:20:56,399 --> 01:21:01,479
Now he had the perfect laboratory for creating this engine,

1042
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:05,880
Vatican two. And what would this be? A revolution? For

1043
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:12,439
a revolution for a quote freedom. As the Council started,

1044
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,199
a media barrage would attack and follow every session of

1045
01:21:16,279 --> 01:21:20,359
Vatican Two. This is Paul Blancher commenting on it. This

1046
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:24,479
was all by design. This did not slow down with

1047
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,359
the American media, especially Henry Loose in Time Magazine, who

1048
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:34,840
used every bit of print at his disposal to influence,

1049
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:40,880
to write and promote the Americanist idea of Vatican Two.

1050
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,199
He was involved in efforts to keep a number of

1051
01:21:48,279 --> 01:21:56,960
the dissident theologians in place. So even though some trads

1052
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,680
tried to ban Hans kun and John Courtney Murray from

1053
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,279
speaking at Catholic universities and the Catholic University of America,

1054
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,760
Henry Lewis put every bit of influence and power behind

1055
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:14,000
them coming to speak. Thus, Time Magazine continued to depict

1056
01:22:14,039 --> 01:22:19,800
the Catholic Church as an undergoing process institution, a perpetual

1057
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:27,640
revolution institution. Even after John the twenty third had died.

1058
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,880
John twenty third was praised as a revolutionary. Cardinal Taviani

1059
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,960
and all those who stood by him were condemned as

1060
01:22:38,039 --> 01:22:43,039
reactionaries in Time magazine. So here's Henry Lew's Time magazine

1061
01:22:43,079 --> 01:22:46,159
saying John the twenty third was great because of his liberalism.

1062
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:53,720
He initiated this great Council. Cardinal Otaviani is a reactionary

1063
01:22:54,000 --> 01:23:00,760
and a dry old rigorist who deserves to be condemned. However,

1064
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,199
was generally viewed as positive by the Americanists, and he

1065
01:23:04,319 --> 01:23:09,239
succeeded John the twenty third. But in time, however, Americans

1066
01:23:09,239 --> 01:23:13,520
somewhat grew disenchanted with even Paul six. He wasn't liberal enough.

1067
01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:19,119
So eventually, however, the Americanists gained ground at the Council.

1068
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,479
Their successors were not in the doctrinal area, but in

1069
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:26,720
the presentation. Their successes, excuse me, were not necessarily doctrinal,

1070
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:31,479
but in how the documents and dogmas were presented. This

1071
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:38,640
was the pastoral arena. Monseigneur Fenton captures the dynamic of

1072
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,960
Americanism at the Council. The statement of the Council is

1073
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:46,359
not necessarily a theological textbook. Oh really. At the same time, however,

1074
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,960
a declaration by a council can cause confusion or finally,

1075
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,359
it can actually be harmful, even though there's no error

1076
01:23:52,399 --> 01:23:57,399
in the faith or in the morals of the documents themselves. However,

1077
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,520
the statement passes over truths which are and which have

1078
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:08,439
long been generally recognized as Catholic doctrine. So here's Monseigneur

1079
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:12,720
Finton admitting that the Council is not stating things the

1080
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:16,079
way that Catholic dogma had always stated it. Yeah, because

1081
01:24:16,079 --> 01:24:20,239
it's heretical, obviously, how can it be the case that

1082
01:24:21,199 --> 01:24:25,640
a secular state is apostasy twenty five years before a

1083
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,079
Battican two in the fifties into the sixties, and then

1084
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:33,279
in the time of the sixties, suddenly now religious liberty

1085
01:24:33,319 --> 01:24:35,279
is what the Holy Spirit wants. So Holy Spirit just

1086
01:24:35,359 --> 01:24:38,399
changes his mind over time. But yes, if you're a

1087
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:42,239
Roman Catholic, there's countless examples where the Holy Spirit apparently

1088
01:24:42,279 --> 01:24:44,359
just directs the Pope to change his mind reverse the

1089
01:24:44,399 --> 01:24:47,399
decisions of his predecessors. No problem in terms of moving

1090
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:52,760
the goalposts. They're experts at that. At Vatican Two, it

1091
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:57,840
is in fact the US bishops who most strongly push

1092
01:24:58,079 --> 01:25:06,479
the declaration of religious Oh shocker there right, And you

1093
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,199
can imagine who all the obvious players are it's all

1094
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:11,560
the people we've heard of, all the famous periti of

1095
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:15,960
Vatican two. Now they start to speak of a spirit

1096
01:25:16,039 --> 01:25:21,119
of Vatican two. The spirit of Vatican two is usually

1097
01:25:21,159 --> 01:25:25,279
at this point nineteen sixty four identified with religious liberty.

1098
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,079
The Americans made their play for religious liberty in the

1099
01:25:28,119 --> 01:25:30,479
third session of the Council. John Courtney Murray laid out

1100
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:34,000
the plan, wrote in Time magazine, and was promoted by

1101
01:25:34,039 --> 01:25:42,840
in America Cardinal Cushing. Get this, During the third session,

1102
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,800
the famous phrase spirit of Vatican two was coined in

1103
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,800
the pages of Time magazine. This phrase represents the efforts

1104
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,840
to remake the Church in the image of America. This

1105
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,039
is akin to the Spirit of seventeen seventy six. Literally,

1106
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,720
the spirit of Attikan two is identified as the spirit

1107
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:05,279
is said seventeen seventy six. It was time then for

1108
01:26:05,399 --> 01:26:08,359
the church to catch up to the modern world and

1109
01:26:08,399 --> 01:26:17,640
the principles of seventeen seventy six. Anyone at this time

1110
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,119
that here's the trick. By the way, Anyone at this time,

1111
01:26:20,199 --> 01:26:26,159
he notes, who would begin to criticize Americanism was labeled

1112
01:26:26,279 --> 01:26:30,520
by the press as a communist sympathizer. Imagine that you

1113
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,800
could be a monarchist criticizing this nonsense, and they're going

1114
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:39,079
to call you a commie. I mean, people say this

1115
01:26:39,159 --> 01:26:46,680
to me, idiot trads online call me KGB as a monarchist.

1116
01:26:48,199 --> 01:26:51,880
What are you talking about? That makes no sense. But

1117
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:56,119
they're just reacting under the old school low IQ propaganda

1118
01:26:57,039 --> 01:26:59,119
that their masters put into place at the time of

1119
01:26:59,159 --> 01:27:02,520
Vatican two, which was that anyone who questioned Vatican two

1120
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:07,720
must be a commune. Why because Vatican two is promoting

1121
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,199
the spirit of seventeen seventy six, obviously, and who would

1122
01:27:11,199 --> 01:27:16,600
be against seventy seventeen seventy six but an evil comedy.

1123
01:27:17,039 --> 01:27:19,800
You're either with USh or you're with a terish. Here,

1124
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:27,840
either with USh or you're with the terish. Just the

1125
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,840
stupidity of this, I mean, the level of understanding this

1126
01:27:32,079 --> 01:27:34,439
is literally the same as the level of thinking that

1127
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,560
you're either with us or with the terrorists. I mean,

1128
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,319
this is who runs the country. People like this right

1129
01:27:40,399 --> 01:27:47,399
at the political level. Eventually radicals came on board, amongst

1130
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:52,159
the cardinals like Cardinal Bay, a ferocious proponent of capitalism

1131
01:27:52,199 --> 01:28:00,199
and its corollary ecumenism. Yescumenism is capitalism in the religious sphere.

1132
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,119
Let's just shop amongst the ideologies for the ones that

1133
01:28:03,159 --> 01:28:15,520
you like. Over time, more and more of the so

1134
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:21,479
called prelates caved in. Archbishop Kroll of Philadelphia made clear

1135
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,800
and interviews given to the Camden Star Herald that he

1136
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:30,119
was now prepared to accept it. The Declaration of Religious

1137
01:28:30,119 --> 01:28:34,800
Liberty Dignitatis humane. It was supposedly not a change in doctrine,

1138
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:38,159
even though fifty years probably it was called apostasy and heresy.

1139
01:28:39,159 --> 01:28:42,800
It had been misinterpreted. You just have to interpret it

1140
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:48,319
in the right way. So this fallback coping mechanism that

1141
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:53,439
the trads all want to use. Oh, it's just a misinterpretation, yeah, right,

1142
01:29:01,239 --> 01:29:06,960
anybody that would go against this. American proponents and techniques

1143
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,880
of psychological warfare had already determined that anyone who questioned

1144
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,199
it could be castigated as a communist sympathizer, even if

1145
01:29:13,239 --> 01:29:16,520
they were monarchist or episcopate or members of the Episcopate,

1146
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,399
they would be called red sympathizers for questioning Vatcum two.

1147
01:29:23,119 --> 01:29:26,159
This leads a certain point to chaos. Even within the Council.

1148
01:29:26,279 --> 01:29:33,760
There was a period of chaos. CD Jackson himself observed

1149
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:40,800
that the use of epidid epidictic language. Apodictic I guess

1150
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:45,560
from Aristotle language, and the council documents coupled the fuel

1151
01:29:46,359 --> 01:29:49,119
to the rise of a spirit of rebellion, which is

1152
01:29:49,159 --> 01:29:51,520
the spirit of seventeen seventy six, which is the spirit

1153
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,279
of Vatican two. So CD Jackson explicitly says, yes, our

1154
01:29:55,319 --> 01:29:59,279
intention in this was to equate the spirit of Vatican

1155
01:29:59,279 --> 01:30:02,479
two with the spirit of American liberalism. Yes, it's not

1156
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:04,319
rocket science we're doing here. It's not that hard to

1157
01:30:04,319 --> 01:30:10,640
figure out. Then he goes on to say, after Vatican Two,

1158
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:14,119
the aftermath was that the Church descended to anarchy with

1159
01:30:14,199 --> 01:30:17,359
the close of the council. Well, that's not a true

1160
01:30:17,399 --> 01:30:22,239
council then, even on Roman Catholic grounds, David, I mean,

1161
01:30:22,279 --> 01:30:26,520
mister Wimhoff here, how can a dogmatic council cause the

1162
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:31,680
church to be an anarchy? What does the octorum fide

1163
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,880
condemnation of the Jansenists say? The Roman See cannot give

1164
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:39,079
a bad right or discipline to the church. How much

1165
01:30:39,079 --> 01:30:41,239
more can she not give a false council or teaching

1166
01:30:41,279 --> 01:30:45,439
to the church To say that Vatican two is a

1167
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:51,039
ecumenical council that causes the Church to go into anarchy

1168
01:30:51,279 --> 01:30:56,279
is to deny Vatican One. You're denying the universal ordinary

1169
01:30:56,279 --> 01:30:59,119
magisterial teaching of the Church according to Vatican One. By

1170
01:30:59,159 --> 01:31:02,079
saying that an a medical council can lead the Church

1171
01:31:02,119 --> 01:31:07,920
into chaos and anarchy, that's literally condemned. So give up

1172
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:15,079
Rome Catholicism or say that Vatican two didn't lead the

1173
01:31:15,159 --> 01:31:17,479
Church into chaos and anarchy. I mean, I don't know how.

1174
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,880
There's no way out of this problem. It's because it's

1175
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:24,680
not true. Now we get the worship of freedom. Okay.

1176
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:30,039
The aftermath of Vatican two is completely devastating, and within

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01:31:30,159 --> 01:31:33,720
four years of the council, all of the main players

1178
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:37,560
and movers and these CIA operatives and Jesuits, they're all dead.

1179
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:43,680
Gustav Weigeld, CD Jackson, Henry Leos, Francis Connell, John Courtney, Murray,

1180
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:48,920
Colonel Spelman, Monseigneur Fenton, they're all dead. So the architects

1181
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:53,560
of this nonsense they all die. Now we get sixties

1182
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:58,680
counter culture. And if you've read Dave McGowan, if you

1183
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:00,720
listen to the stuff we've talked to for the last

1184
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,000
fricking ten years on my website, then you know that

1185
01:32:04,039 --> 01:32:08,000
the sixties counterculture was also CIA. Do you see that

1186
01:32:08,039 --> 01:32:11,760
it's not accidental the sixties counter culture with the CIA

1187
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:17,199
promoting LSD and all the Laurel Canyon stupid bands. Right,

1188
01:32:19,319 --> 01:32:23,720
it's not accidental that the same CIA is giving LSD

1189
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:28,159
to John Courtney Murray and promoting seventeen seventy six at

1190
01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:35,239
Vatican two. The CIA is doing both things, and they're connected.

1191
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,279
If they got the Catholic Church to accept the principles

1192
01:32:39,279 --> 01:32:44,600
of Americanism and were given the leading Jesuits acid and

1193
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:48,479
making them trip balls, then yes they had taken over.

1194
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:52,600
The institution is forfeited. And you say, well, but they

1195
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,920
didn't took over Rome. Yes they did. They took over

1196
01:32:55,039 --> 01:32:57,920
Rome because Rome confirmed all this. Okay, this is not

1197
01:32:59,159 --> 01:33:01,199
you can't get around on this. Oh this this is

1198
01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:03,800
all happening in America. There ain't happening in Rome. No,

1199
01:33:04,199 --> 01:33:08,640
Rome confirms the Americanism Abottican two. That's the point. All

1200
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:14,560
this coping doesn't work. So now he's going to talk

1201
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:19,000
about how long have I been going here? Oh we've

1202
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,039
only been going an hour. Okay, so we're doing good.

1203
01:33:21,199 --> 01:33:35,560
Still got almost four hundred and sculling bones, Henry loose

1204
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:47,680
wasp sculling bones H. Henry worked with Walter Lippmann. As

1205
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:52,960
we said of the OSS sculling bones as a OSS

1206
01:33:53,319 --> 01:34:02,079
wasp entity created originally in this time period the forties,

1207
01:34:02,119 --> 01:34:05,760
would identify American gentry. So what it is to be

1208
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:10,960
an American gentleman, the gentry of America, that equals the

1209
01:34:11,119 --> 01:34:15,920
Christian capitalist. Right, so the wealthy elite wasp capitalist is

1210
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:19,560
identical to what it is to be a Christian gentleman. Now,

1211
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:23,199
what happened was that a lot of the immigrants Catholic immigrants. Right,

1212
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,960
there's still I'm not saying there were no wealthy Catholics.

1213
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,560
There were some, but the leading institutions, given that America

1214
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:35,439
was primarily a Protestant colony primarily founded by Protestants for

1215
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:43,079
the most part, the old East Coast establishment, people at Yale, etc. Princeton,

1216
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:46,359
all of these people, and especially Yale, because skull and

1217
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:50,760
Bones comes from Yale, and the OSS and the CIA

1218
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:56,039
come out of Skull and Bones and Yale. Literally. Okay,

1219
01:34:56,079 --> 01:34:57,720
So if you don't know that, you're not going to

1220
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:05,199
understand the ideological dynamic, the power dynamic behind what's motivating

1221
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:09,720
people to take over the For example, the OSS. One

1222
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:13,479
thing that they do is take over the old French

1223
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:17,560
drug networks. So the French intelligence prior to the OSS,

1224
01:35:18,399 --> 01:35:21,439
they ran and controlled a lot of the drug alleyways.

1225
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:25,520
This is for black markets. Okay, this is not conspiracy theory.

1226
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:29,479
This is basic intelligence history. While the OSS ended up

1227
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:33,439
taking over those drug routes. This is how a lot

1228
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:37,720
of these old families got to be rich and famous

1229
01:35:38,399 --> 01:35:41,560
was drugs. Did you know that a lot of the

1230
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:46,199
Eastern Seaboard elite didn't just sell pelts, They didn't just

1231
01:35:46,239 --> 01:35:50,600
sell cheese. They sold drugs, opium. That's how they got rich.

1232
01:35:52,399 --> 01:36:00,880
The Eastern Seaboard elite made their money on drugs. This

1233
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:04,800
is called the wasp elite. He has a whole chapter

1234
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:11,159
on it. To realize this dream of creating an Americanist world,

1235
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,399
and he even talks about sculling bones and the false

1236
01:36:14,399 --> 01:36:16,920
flag of the Lusitania, which was a false flag. He

1237
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,640
says that to realize this dream they needed money workers

1238
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:22,680
in a winning idea. There was one hundred thousand dollars

1239
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:24,960
in seed money back in this is a long time ago,

1240
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:33,560
nineteen eighteen. This is early people at Yale, A number

1241
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:40,760
of prominent Protestants, namely Theodore Roosevelt junior, Henry van Dyck, diplomat,

1242
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:47,479
Presbyterian minister, president of Yale Princeton, the president of JOHNS.

1243
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:52,640
Hopkins Columbia College, all put their money into a project, right,

1244
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:56,800
and this project would become Time Magazine. Thus, Time Magazine

1245
01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:03,319
drew upon wasp elite from its founding to rise to prominence.

1246
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:07,479
The staff and writers, however, were not just drawn from Yale,

1247
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:14,600
but also from Harvard, Princeton, Oxford, and Columbia. Eastern Seaboard

1248
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:18,800
elite directly connected to British intelligence. You see here, Now,

1249
01:37:19,119 --> 01:37:23,079
who comes over to tell the Eastern Seaboard elite how

1250
01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:29,000
to set up an intelligence agency British Intelligence William Stevenson

1251
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:36,239
codename Intrepid Bill Donovan, Ian Fleming. Have you ever heard

1252
01:37:36,239 --> 01:37:40,039
of them? Yeah, that's who helps set up the OSS.

1253
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:47,079
Why because these Eastern Seaboard elite families were directly connected

1254
01:37:47,119 --> 01:37:54,840
to British intelligence, to Oxford and to the Anglo elite.

1255
01:37:55,479 --> 01:38:03,239
And that's all covered in this right. So then he

1256
01:38:03,319 --> 01:38:06,199
goes back to Lipman. Now, what does Walter Lippmann do

1257
01:38:06,319 --> 01:38:09,319
in this for everybody? Well, Walter Lippmann comes into play

1258
01:38:09,399 --> 01:38:16,680
because in nineteen fourteen, Walter Lippmann became the editor of

1259
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:20,000
the New Republic. When World War One broke out, Lippman

1260
01:38:20,119 --> 01:38:24,560
saw it as an opportunity to advance democracy.