WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.600 They are finished with the extra innings now and we 2 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:06.200 can move forward. Gary Jeff Walker on a special Monday 3 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:09.519 Night night Cabin after the Reds game early game and 4 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:14.160 GADP in the Snoop Dogg concert. I thought possibly about 5 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:19.039 maybe filling the two hours with Snoop, but a little 6 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:23.120 Snoop goes a long long way, as I remember from 7 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:26.719 my Snoop Dogg period, which may or may not have 8 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:27.519 ever happened. 9 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:29.600 On the show. 10 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:34.679 Tonight, we have former Homeless star under President Donald Trump 11 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:39.119 in his first term, doctor Robert Marbot to talk about 12 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:41.920 a couple of movies thaties got out and President Trump's 13 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:44.679 latest executive orders. By the way, earlier today in Washington, 14 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:49.079 a major press conference with the President signing executive orders 15 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:55.600 to federalize the Washington d C. Police Department. And in 16 00:00:55.679 --> 00:01:00.280 the nonsense and the NonStop crime that is a seed 17 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:04.959 at all speed limits in our nation's capital. There are 18 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:09.840 more murders for one hundred thousand people in Washington, DC 19 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:16.159 than Bogata, Columbia, Mexico City, almost any city you can name, 20 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:20.840 including Baghdad, Iraq. And doctor Robert Marbot will tell you 21 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:26.560 why President Trump's executive orders not only today and the 22 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:31.200 effort towards ending the statute for no cash bail around 23 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:35.519 the country. But the Homeless Executive Orders that he signed 24 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:39.200 a week or two ago are a good step in 25 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:43.640 the right direction for our country and for our nations homeless. 26 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:46.959 And he'll tell us why. Jim Serger, who I last 27 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:51.680 had on the show to talk about jump the nineteen 28 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:54.719 eighty four Van Halen concert book that he wrote about 29 00:01:54.719 --> 00:02:01.280 remembrances with his teenage buddies going to see VH in concert, 30 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:04.359 has a new book about nine to eleven. It's called 31 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:07.519 nine to eleven, A Time to Always remember, Salute to service. 32 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:12.759 There's forward by Congressman or former Congressman brad Winstrip I guess. 33 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:15.400 And we have an hour of sports for the out 34 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:17.879 of sorts tonight. Both the wild Man and the fur 35 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:21.199 Ball will join us before twelve o'clock. I hope you'll 36 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:24.439 stick around too. It's a nightcap on a Monday night. 37 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:30.479 And doctor Robert Marbot the subject homelessness and how to 38 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:32.599 stop it, how to fix it, how to get people 39 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:33.439 off the streets. 40 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:39.199 That's next. Why start your morning with me? Tom Brenneman, Well, listen. 41 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:41.560 Up, Tom, make sure you get the infos you need 42 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:44.000 the interviews you want to hear and leaves you with 43 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:46.240 a satisfied smile on your face. 44 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:51.000 Info and interviews you need and a big old smile. 45 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:53.039 That's my promise to you. 46 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:56.719 Start your day with Tom Brenneman tomorrow morning at five 47 00:02:56.759 --> 00:02:59.439 am on seven hundred WLWU. 48 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:04.560 Little Miami Brewing has something for everyone. They have my 49 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:08.800 favorite craft brews, perfect views of the Little Miami pizzas, salads, 50 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:12.520 and don't miss the world. As I mentioned at the open, 51 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:14.719 we are talking for the next few minutes with doctor 52 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:19.680 Robert Marbot, who is the former Homelesszar under President Trump 53 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.719 in his first administration and also a senior fellow at 54 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:26.400 the Discovery Institute. And doctor Marbot, as I said at 55 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:31.080 the top of tonight's show, the President signed this executive 56 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:36.879 order targeting homelessness in America. And you think this is 57 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:39.479 a great thing not only for the country but for 58 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:41.080 the people who are homeless. 59 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:45.159 Right, Yeah, And a lot of people are you know, 60 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:48.199 starting to you know, talk about you know, this sounds 61 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:51.400 like the Japanese in turnments and such, and that is 62 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:55.360 people are just not reading what the executive orders are. 63 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:57.479 And he has two of them out there. One's a 64 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:01.639 national one and one's about what's going on in Washington, DC. 65 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:06.639 And he did a mediac conference just shortly ago about 66 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:08.719 the Washington DC efforts. 67 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:13.199 Yeah, I mentioned that, and with law enforcement and eliminating 68 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:17.319 I mean, our nation's capital should not be more dangerous 69 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:19.839 than bag Data Raq, and yet it has been over 70 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:21.000 the last couple of years. 71 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:27.759 And he is he's making really bold moves now and 72 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:32.079 so he's going to get much more focus on it. 73 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:35.839 Number one. Number two is he's going to stop all 74 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:39.879 these crazy federal grant programs that promote drug use or 75 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:43.199 enhanced drug use. A lot of people have no idea 76 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:46.319 how much money comes from the federal government, and if 77 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:50.839 you're in places like California or Oregon or Washington State, 78 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:54.079 you also have state money going in and they're called 79 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:58.920 quote harm reductions. Well, what harm reduction efforts mean is 80 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:03.000 we're going to help you do your drugs and we 81 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:06.079 hope you won't die as much. And so we're using 82 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:11.319 taxpayers dollars to enable your drug use rather than using 83 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:14.600 taxpayer dollars to get you treatment and recovery. And so 84 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:18.279 he's going to stop the so called harm reduction which 85 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:21.720 I actually think harmful actions. He's going to stop those 86 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:25.199 take that money and put them into treatment and recovery, 87 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:27.800 and to put it in the most simplest way in 88 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:32.079 this country. And this is within the homelessness community and 89 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:35.680 in the general population. We have made it so easy 90 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:38.279 to get high in the United States and so hard 91 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:41.079 to get treatment, and we're now going to flip that 92 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:43.399 on his head and make it easy to get treatment 93 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:44.600 and hard to get high. 94 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:47.720 Well, here's just a simple question, and I think I 95 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:53.439 know the answer, doctor Margaret. Why was this not done 96 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:58.360 during President Trump's first administration. You don't hear presidents talk 97 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:02.360 about the homeless that you in this country. You don't hear, 98 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:06.879 I mean through administration after administration. And I would think 99 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:10.399 that maybe the answer to why this didn't get jump 100 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:14.040 started in the first Trump term was, like a lot 101 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:17.360 of other things, it took a back seat to continue 102 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:20.680 to fight just to keep his presidency alive because of 103 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:24.639 all the attacking from the Russian collusion to the impeachments, 104 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:29.199 to the constant badgering, and I mean, it's hard to 105 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:32.759 get any work done. Do you see a difference in 106 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:36.360 the president this time around as far as his focus 107 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:41.199 and drive and at least familiarity with Washington d C. 108 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:43.600 Now that he did not maybe have in the first term. 109 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:49.120 Well, I think on the substance and content, nothing has changed. 110 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:53.439 He's thinking the same way, he's the same focus. But 111 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:57.920 I think during the first administration, to some extent, he 112 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:01.600 was trying to be nigh worked with Congress and was 113 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:05.000 hoping they would come along, yet they kept blocking him. 114 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:08.800 This time he's not waiting for Congress. I think that's 115 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:13.000 probably the biggest one. And in the world of homelessness, 116 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.480 I spend a lot of time when I went into 117 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:19.879 the Trump administration trying to get senators and congress people 118 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:22.680 to come join us and be a partner in the 119 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:26.759 reforms in doing what we needed to do, and they 120 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.959 just dragged their feet. This time he's not waiting for Congress. 121 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:33.800 I think that that's one very big point. Obviously, he 122 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:38.480 had the distractions of COVID, the other distractions you talked about, 123 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:45.079 and the other is Fintnol really wasn't around in twenty seventeen, 124 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:48.639 twenty eighteen. Fintnel really kicks in around twenty twenty one 125 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:53.279 twenty two. That totally changed the landscapes of homelessness in 126 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:58.360 America as well as gang activity cartel activity, Canadian biker 127 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:02.759 gangs and what China's doing, and so Finnel has really 128 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:06.800 changed the game. People are dying on the street twice 129 00:08:06.800 --> 00:08:11.279 as fast as they were eight years ago, twice as 130 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:14.879 fast as almost three years ago. And so he's so 131 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:19.199 there's sort of things have gotten worse, that's part of it. 132 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.480 And he's just not going to wait for Congress. He's 133 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:24.399 just going to go do what he needs to do. 134 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:24.879 Well. 135 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:28.839 I think when you just mentioned fentanyl, it made me think, 136 00:08:29.639 --> 00:08:31.879 and I think you'll agree with me. I don't know, 137 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.679 but it made me think that closing down the border 138 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:42.360 did a lot more than just controlling the flow unvetted 139 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:48.559 population massing through our country illegally. It's affecting crime, it 140 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:51.600 has affected homelessness in this country. 141 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:53.559 You mentioned the cartels. 142 00:08:54.240 --> 00:09:00.840 So the success at securing the border finally has done 143 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:03.840 a myriad of things for this country and allows the 144 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:07.960 president maybe to focus on, Okay, now what we've got left, 145 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:13.759 Let's get these people off the streets. Eh, don't you think? 146 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:19.679 I think you're exactly right. And to me, there's nothing 147 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:26.519 more fundamental, absolutely nothing more fundamental to a country of 148 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:29.799 knowing who comes across your border. And what they're bringing. 149 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:33.200 And the media has obviously focused a lot on the 150 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:39.120 people coming across the border illegally, but what they weren't 151 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:42.240 really focused on is what they're carrying with them, what 152 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:44.919 they're bringing with them, what they have, let you know, 153 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:48.519 the plastic bags they've swallowed, or what they're trying to 154 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:52.080 smuggle in or their bags or ice chesses or what 155 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:55.600 they have you know, sewed into their suits or clothes 156 00:09:55.799 --> 00:10:00.000 or shirts, and so that there was sort of all 157 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.720 always the focus on the people, but not what they 158 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:07.919 were bringing across. And to me, the fentanyl coming across 159 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.240 the border in the last five years was just such 160 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:15.000 a game changer that moved it from this is really 161 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:19.200 bad to this is an existential threat to the United States. 162 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:23.240 Think about the fact that more people were dying in 163 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:28.039 fentanyl in about three months than all the wars on 164 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.320 terror over the last twenty five years combined, every year 165 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:34.840 added up mine just to give you just that, you know, 166 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:41.039 literally more people have died in Finnyl in the last 167 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:46.200 four and a half years than all American military servicemen 168 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:51.480 and women and the intelligence agencies for the last one 169 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:55.600 hundred years. So if you had a world war two, Korea, Vietnam, 170 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:59.840 Global War on Terror, Afghanistan, Iraq, a few others coast 171 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:03.159 of some of the UN activities. Add up all the 172 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:08.559 fatalities of American servicemen and women for one hundred years. 173 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:12.519 There's more infitinal deaths in the last four and a 174 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:17.639 half years. And so the president gets this as a crisis, 175 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:19.120 and so he's acting like it. 176 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:23.919 I mean, that's stark and it's heartbreaking to think about it. 177 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:28.120 And it's, as you mentioned, a great deal of it 178 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:32.360 is totally preventable if we had had a closed border 179 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:36.399 and we had vetting of those people who were coming 180 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:37.919 in and what they were bringing with them. 181 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:44.519 It's absolutely, I don't want to call it totally self inflicted. 182 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:48.919 Because the cartels are taking action. China's taking action. Now 183 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:52.200 we have the Canadian biker gangs up in Canada doing 184 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:55.279 what the cartels were doing to the South and so, 185 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:59.559 but we are in charge of our own borders. And 186 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:03.159 the hire president said I'm not going to worry about 187 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:05.960 the borders. He appoints the vice president to be the 188 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:08.639 borders are and she doesn't even go to the border. 189 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:12.080 You know, how do you do that? And they only 190 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:15.919 got there. They really tried to make a change in 191 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:18.879 the last four or five six months, not because it 192 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:21.440 was the right thing to do, because they knew they 193 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:23.840 were going to lose their election if they didn't, and 194 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:28.399 it was really, you know, too late, not enough, and 195 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.600 very insincere. And I think people saw through that. The 196 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:33.919 only reason they tried to get tough in that last 197 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:36.559 three or four months was they were losing the election. 198 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:39.879 We're talking to former Trump the homeless Zar in the 199 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:44.519 first administration, doctor Robert mar Butt. And since you were 200 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:47.759 consulting the president on this, this was your task in 201 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:52.759 that first term, doctor, what were some of the solutions 202 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:58.000 on outside of drugs, in getting people off the streets 203 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:04.759 and finding them someplace to be besides a tent city 204 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:11.320 in Los Angeles and feces strewn boulevards and the like. 205 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:16.080 What were some of the fixes that you guys considered 206 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:17.240 and looked at. 207 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:21.919 And the great news is you've got some examples around 208 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:24.799 the country that are doing great. You got San Antonio, 209 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:29.720 you got Pinel's County, Florida. You got even small places 210 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:33.240 like Fort Smith, Arkansas. And what all of those had 211 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:36.200 in common, they've had about an eighty five percent reduction 212 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:41.240 of homelessness, definitely a reduction in deaths. You know, all 213 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:44.519 the metrics you could use, less people hitting the emergency room, 214 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:47.679 hitting jails. And what they all did was they focused 215 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:53.240 on treatment and recovery rather than enabling drug use. And 216 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:56.559 so that's number one. The number two is they focus 217 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:00.759 on job training, job retention, and not just getting a job, 218 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:03.720 but keeping the job. There are a lot of people pretty 219 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:05.919 good at getting you a job, but then they don't 220 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:09.440 retain it. And so if you can retain a job 221 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:14.320 and deal with your addiction, you will make money. And 222 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:16.720 when you make money, you're able to pay your bills, 223 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.559 which includes housing over your head. But I guarantee you 224 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:24.600 if you can't keep a job because of mental health 225 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:27.919 or substance abuse, or you don't have the right skill 226 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.480 set for that job, you're not going to make money. 227 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:32.440 And when you don't make money, you're going to lose 228 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:34.440 your car, You're going to lose your housing, you're going 229 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:37.720 to lose your credit card, your your credit rating is 230 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:42.519 going to go to garbage. And now you've got a whole, 231 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:45.200 really big mess that you're trying to deal with. 232 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:48.480 Do we need to reopen some mental health facilities in 233 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:49.480 this country? 234 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:54.639 I think so. And I don't mean going back to 235 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:58.960 the you know what you envision in the cuckoo nest scenario. 236 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:02.480 But I give a few data points. In nineteen fifty 237 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:07.279 there were approximately a half in million federal, state and 238 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:11.639 local funded mental health behavioral health beds in America. Think 239 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:16.200 about that, a half a million beds funded nationwide, and 240 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:21.399 our country now has thirty thousand beds funded, and they're 241 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:25.240 all forensic beds. And what forensic beds means when you 242 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:30.440 hear somebody that sounds innocent by reason of insanity things, 243 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:34.159 you know, Hinckley, he didn't go he wasn't let out, 244 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.039 And that's sort of a myth. A lot of people 245 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:38.480 don't realize that. You don't go to jail, but you 246 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:42.240 go to a forensic state hospital. But they're only thirty 247 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:45.440 thousand of those beds left, so there's no beds left 248 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:51.279 for crisis individuals, people going through crisis. They're all gone. 249 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:54.720 And the left was watching that and Want and the 250 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:57.399 Fluid of the cuckoos Nests and thought it was a documentary. 251 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:01.000 And the place that was a about the one up 252 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:04.240 in New York, a lot in Long Island that needed 253 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:07.519 to be closed, that was a horrible place. That doesn't 254 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:11.720 mean you close down the entire national mental health system, 255 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:15.440 you know, And so I think we got to bring 256 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:17.960 that back. We got to bring we got to focus 257 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.120 on treatment and recovery, and we also have to focus 258 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:24.240 on job readiness and job retention. 259 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:28.279 It's amazing how something in pop culture like One Flew 260 00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:32.840 Over the Cuckoo's Nest can adversely affect the whole society. 261 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:35.799 And and one or two examples, you know that. It's 262 00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:39.240 kind of like, you know, Silkwood came out and they 263 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:41.919 closed all the nuclear power plants, and it's like. 264 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:44.840 Why because of a movie? 265 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:50.120 Well, well, candidly, that's why I've gotten the documentary business. 266 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:53.639 You know. We we produced fit lit Depth Incorporated in 267 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:57.960 Americans with no address, because I've seen the power of movies. 268 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:02.000 And if and if you're left wing is always producing 269 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:07.480 their angle, and people in the logical middle, common sense, 270 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:10.440 middle of the conservative side of the spectrum aren't also 271 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:14.640 producing movies. Shame on us, because movies seem to move 272 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:17.480 people almost more than a white paper does anymore. 273 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:24.359 What is in your studies and research and your own thoughts, 274 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:27.440 what is the percentage of people who are out in 275 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:32.160 the streets homeless because strictly of mental disease, not necessarily 276 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:33.000 away from drugs. 277 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:38.160 Well, we know that with metaphysical certainty. The largest study 278 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:41.559 ever done, sixty four thousand people studied on the street 279 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:44.440 is incredible and by the way, not a right wing 280 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:49.160 not Discovery Institute or Heritage or Robert Marbat. It was 281 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:52.160 done by cal Policy Labs. So it's a joint venture 282 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:56.720 of UC Berkeley UCLA largest study ever done. They found 283 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.839 three fourths have untreated mental illness. Of course have a 284 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:06.279 substance use disorder, often self medicating, not always that. You know, 285 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.400 there's a little group in one but not in the other, 286 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:12.720 but most of it comes together. Three fourths of street 287 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:16.240 level homeless. And so we know that number. And by 288 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:19.640 the way, that research was done before Finnel came along. 289 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:23.079 So I think, if anything, those numbers are higher now. 290 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:27.920 Very good or not good, but yeah, you've got the 291 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:31.400 research and the numbers to back it up. Isn't there 292 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:35.680 a small percentage of homeless that don't want to be 293 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:36.559 off the streets? 294 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:37.039 Doctor? 295 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:42.880 Absolutely, And I don't think it happens in your first 296 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:46.319 day of experiencing homelessness. I don't think you you know, 297 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:49.119 and you're in high school and say, you know, instead 298 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:52.000 of being a doctor, I want to become a homeless 299 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.400 guy on the street. But what happens is when you 300 00:18:57.200 --> 00:19:01.160 do all this compassion and no accountabilit and people are 301 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:05.079 just giving you stuff, free housing, free food, free clothes, 302 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:09.680 free things, you start in enabling a person to a 303 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:14.359 point where they feel comfortable on the street and they 304 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:17.000 don't want to go through with, you know, the hard 305 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:21.680 withdrawals or the recovery of the substance that people are 306 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:27.359 scared of the recovery process, and we enable people to 307 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:30.400 get there. The way I say it is you have 308 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:34.240 to be compassionate, but you also have to have accountability. 309 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:38.519 And if you do compassion without accountability, you end up 310 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:42.799 enabling homelessness. And so when you start getting being on 311 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:46.319 the street two, three, four, five years or longer, you 312 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:50.440 start going, oh, I've figured this out. I'm comfortable here. 313 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:53.039 I don't have to pay taxes, I don't have to work. 314 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:57.200 People just bring me stuff. And there's definitely a group 315 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:02.200 that sort of settle into that pattern and or not 316 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:05.680 doing anything to get out. And that's why you have 317 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:10.519 to engage this fast, immediately and big, which is exactly 318 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:11.920 what the president's doing. 319 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:14.640 Here, Doctor Robert marbt, I appreciate your time. Where can 320 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:16.920 people find your documentary movies that you. 321 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:22.799 Mentioned, Well, Finnol Death Incorporated has been picked up by 322 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:26.519 Warner Brothers and you'll be seeing that in the hopefully 323 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:29.519 in the next month or two. You can go to 324 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:34.880 Discovery Institute dot org or Fix Homelessness dot org and 325 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:39.519 see about our writings and in Americans with No Addresses 326 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:41.599 actually out on Amazon right now. 327 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:46.240 All right, fantastic, Thanks for your time again, and maybe 328 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:50.400 this is another problem that this president can help solve. 329 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:56.039 Well, he's really taking bold action and it's so exciting 330 00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:57.599 to see that it is. 331 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:01.880 Indeed, let's hope and pray that it works. Thank you again. 332 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:07.720 It's doctor Robert Marbun on the Nightcap and Jim Serger 333 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:10.920 and his book about nine to eleven coming up next 334 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:14.359 till Monday Nightcap in the middle of Red's baseball season. 335 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:19.519 We break to remember in this half hour, the last 336 00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:22.519 time I talked to our next guest, he had a 337 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:25.480 book out about he and his buddies going to see 338 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:30.559 Van Halen in the nineteen eighty four tour. And he's 339 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:34.359 very excited because he just told me like I should 340 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:36.559 have known this all ry. David Lee Roth is coming 341 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:39.720 back to Cincinnati on the twenty first at the Casino, 342 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:44.440 and he's trying to find a Yankee Rose to go 343 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:49.640 with him to see David Lee. His name is Jim Serger. 344 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:53.680 He's also an usher for the Reds. But his new book, 345 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:58.039 you know what, Jim, I just got it in the 346 00:21:58.039 --> 00:22:00.880 mail Saturday, and thank you for sending me a signed copy. 347 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:05.240 I really appreciate that it's on his Red Bike Publishing 348 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:11.000 LLC company. And to call it a coffee table book 349 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:14.480 does not do it justice, I don't think. Although it 350 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:18.200 is in the style of the great coffee table books, 351 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:20.400 but it's so much more than that, and so much 352 00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:25.200 more meaningful than your average coffee table picture book. It's 353 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:28.319 called nine to eleven, A Time to Always Remember, Salute 354 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:33.640 to Service, and there's a forward by Congressman brad Winstrop 355 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:37.640 at the beginning, which I don't think you could have 356 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:41.440 found a more appropriate guy to write your forward for you, 357 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:48.240 and he says, just an excerpt from the forward. As 358 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:50.599 I got the news of the horrific event, my heart 359 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:53.000 was broken. I knew we were going to war, I 360 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:56.519 didn't know in what capacity. Didn't know the timeframe, was 361 00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:59.279 not aware of the magnitude of war our country was 362 00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:04.680 about to face. But war was an inevitable inevitab villa 363 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:09.559 to be I can't talk now and never villa. You 364 00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:12.480 know what I'm saying, sound like Joe Biden, all of 365 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:18.759 a sudden inevitability. I got it out. So anyway, it's 366 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:22.319 a great forward and it sets the stage for this 367 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:29.960 book of remembering. And you opened the book talking about 368 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:34.799 twenty four years ago. It was September eleventh, two thousand 369 00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:38.079 and one, on a Tuesday, and you go through it, 370 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:44.079 and then you talk about in the aftermath of that day, Jim, 371 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:47.880 how you were seeing nine to eleven on digital clocks 372 00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:48.880 everywhere you looked. 373 00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:53.039 Is that kind of the spark for this And by the. 374 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.319 Way, good evening, good even to you, and thank you 375 00:23:56.440 --> 00:23:59.440 very much. What a great introduction to this book. Yes, sir, 376 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:01.480 the time nine to eleven. As a matter of fact, 377 00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:04.880 I saw it last night. I fall it on the 378 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:07.519 clock on the microwave, right as I was getting ready 379 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:10.559 to pop some popcorn. Nine to eleven. I see it 380 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:13.000 on the radio, I see it on my watch. I 381 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:16.000 can be at a red game just out of no 382 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:16.799 luck at all. 383 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:19.640 I looked down and said nine eleven. 384 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:23.200 And instantly, when everybody says nine to eleven, who lived 385 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.519 through that horrific day twenty four years ago, every single 386 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:29.079 person can explain to you and I and you and 387 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:32.519 me included what happened to us on that day, minute 388 00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:35.559 by minute, hour by hour, and the days that followed. 389 00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:37.640 But nobody can really tell me what they did on 390 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:40.400 September tenth, other than I went to work, I went 391 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:43.440 to school, visit my mom or what have you. But 392 00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:47.599 on nine to eleven, everybody remembers where they were. And 393 00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:49.519 that's where I got the idea from this book is 394 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:53.240 we're given seven hundred and thirty times. Possibly you've seen 395 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:55.440 the time nine to eleven, and no matter where you are, 396 00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:59.480 take a moment reflect. You know, remember that horrific day. 397 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.559 We were united as a country. Everybody was helping each other. 398 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:09.119 Neighbors were helping neighbors. People were talking to New York, Shanksville, Pennsylvania, Washington, 399 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:12.400 d C. How can I be involved? There was nothing 400 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:15.319 else to it. It was the whole commoradity of the 401 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:18.359