Speaker 1: They are finished with the extra innings now and we
Speaker 1: can move forward. Gary Jeff Walker on a special Monday
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Speaker 1: Snoop goes a long long way, as I remember from
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Speaker 1: ever happened.
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Speaker 1: Tonight, we have former Homeless star under President Donald Trump
Speaker 1: in his first term, doctor Robert Marbot to talk about
Speaker 1: a couple of movies thaties got out and President Trump's
Speaker 1: latest executive orders. By the way, earlier today in Washington,
Speaker 1: a major press conference with the President signing executive orders
Speaker 1: to federalize the Washington d C. Police Department. And in
Speaker 1: the nonsense and the NonStop crime that is a seed
Speaker 1: at all speed limits in our nation's capital. There are
Speaker 1: more murders for one hundred thousand people in Washington, DC
Speaker 1: than Bogata, Columbia, Mexico City, almost any city you can name,
Speaker 1: including Baghdad, Iraq. And doctor Robert Marbot will tell you
Speaker 1: why President Trump's executive orders not only today and the
Speaker 1: effort towards ending the statute for no cash bail around
Speaker 1: the country. But the Homeless Executive Orders that he signed
Speaker 1: a week or two ago are a good step in
Speaker 1: the right direction for our country and for our nations homeless.
Speaker 1: And he'll tell us why. Jim Serger, who I last
Speaker 1: had on the show to talk about jump the nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty four Van Halen concert book that he wrote about
Speaker 1: remembrances with his teenage buddies going to see VH in concert,
Speaker 1: has a new book about nine to eleven. It's called
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, A Time to Always remember, Salute to service.
Speaker 1: There's forward by Congressman or former Congressman brad Winstrip I guess.
Speaker 1: And we have an hour of sports for the out
Speaker 1: of sorts tonight. Both the wild Man and the fur
Speaker 1: Ball will join us before twelve o'clock. I hope you'll
Speaker 1: stick around too. It's a nightcap on a Monday night.
Speaker 1: And doctor Robert Marbot the subject homelessness and how to
Speaker 1: stop it, how to fix it, how to get people
Speaker 1: off the streets.
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Speaker 1: we are talking for the next few minutes with doctor
Speaker 1: Robert Marbot, who is the former Homelesszar under President Trump
Speaker 1: in his first administration and also a senior fellow at
Speaker 1: the Discovery Institute. And doctor Marbot, as I said at
Speaker 1: the top of tonight's show, the President signed this executive
Speaker 1: order targeting homelessness in America. And you think this is
Speaker 1: a great thing not only for the country but for
Speaker 1: the people who are homeless.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, And a lot of people are you know,
Speaker 5: starting to you know, talk about you know, this sounds
Speaker 5: like the Japanese in turnments and such, and that is
Speaker 5: people are just not reading what the executive orders are.
Speaker 5: And he has two of them out there. One's a
Speaker 5: national one and one's about what's going on in Washington, DC.
Speaker 5: And he did a mediac conference just shortly ago about
Speaker 5: the Washington DC efforts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mentioned that, and with law enforcement and eliminating
Speaker 1: I mean, our nation's capital should not be more dangerous
Speaker 1: than bag Data Raq, and yet it has been over
Speaker 1: the last couple of years.
Speaker 5: And he is he's making really bold moves now and
Speaker 5: so he's going to get much more focus on it.
Speaker 5: Number one. Number two is he's going to stop all
Speaker 5: these crazy federal grant programs that promote drug use or
Speaker 5: enhanced drug use. A lot of people have no idea
Speaker 5: how much money comes from the federal government, and if
Speaker 5: you're in places like California or Oregon or Washington State,
Speaker 5: you also have state money going in and they're called
Speaker 5: quote harm reductions. Well, what harm reduction efforts mean is
Speaker 5: we're going to help you do your drugs and we
Speaker 5: hope you won't die as much. And so we're using
Speaker 5: taxpayers dollars to enable your drug use rather than using
Speaker 5: taxpayer dollars to get you treatment and recovery. And so
Speaker 5: he's going to stop the so called harm reduction which
Speaker 5: I actually think harmful actions. He's going to stop those
Speaker 5: take that money and put them into treatment and recovery,
Speaker 5: and to put it in the most simplest way in
Speaker 5: this country. And this is within the homelessness community and
Speaker 5: in the general population. We have made it so easy
Speaker 5: to get high in the United States and so hard
Speaker 5: to get treatment, and we're now going to flip that
Speaker 5: on his head and make it easy to get treatment
Speaker 5: and hard to get high.
Speaker 1: Well, here's just a simple question, and I think I
Speaker 1: know the answer, doctor Margaret. Why was this not done
Speaker 1: during President Trump's first administration. You don't hear presidents talk
Speaker 1: about the homeless that you in this country. You don't hear,
Speaker 1: I mean through administration after administration. And I would think
Speaker 1: that maybe the answer to why this didn't get jump
Speaker 1: started in the first Trump term was, like a lot
Speaker 1: of other things, it took a back seat to continue
Speaker 1: to fight just to keep his presidency alive because of
Speaker 1: all the attacking from the Russian collusion to the impeachments,
Speaker 1: to the constant badgering, and I mean, it's hard to
Speaker 1: get any work done. Do you see a difference in
Speaker 1: the president this time around as far as his focus
Speaker 1: and drive and at least familiarity with Washington d C.
Speaker 1: Now that he did not maybe have in the first term.
Speaker 5: Well, I think on the substance and content, nothing has changed.
Speaker 5: He's thinking the same way, he's the same focus. But
Speaker 5: I think during the first administration, to some extent, he
Speaker 5: was trying to be nigh worked with Congress and was
Speaker 5: hoping they would come along, yet they kept blocking him.
Speaker 5: This time he's not waiting for Congress. I think that's
Speaker 5: probably the biggest one. And in the world of homelessness,
Speaker 5: I spend a lot of time when I went into
Speaker 5: the Trump administration trying to get senators and congress people
Speaker 5: to come join us and be a partner in the
Speaker 5: reforms in doing what we needed to do, and they
Speaker 5: just dragged their feet. This time he's not waiting for Congress.
Speaker 5: I think that that's one very big point. Obviously, he
Speaker 5: had the distractions of COVID, the other distractions you talked about,
Speaker 5: and the other is Fintnol really wasn't around in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen. Fintnel really kicks in around twenty twenty one
Speaker 5: twenty two. That totally changed the landscapes of homelessness in
Speaker 5: America as well as gang activity cartel activity, Canadian biker
Speaker 5: gangs and what China's doing, and so Finnel has really
Speaker 5: changed the game. People are dying on the street twice
Speaker 5: as fast as they were eight years ago, twice as
Speaker 5: fast as almost three years ago. And so he's so
Speaker 5: there's sort of things have gotten worse, that's part of it.
Speaker 5: And he's just not going to wait for Congress. He's
Speaker 5: just going to go do what he needs to do.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: I think when you just mentioned fentanyl, it made me think,
Speaker 1: and I think you'll agree with me. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it made me think that closing down the border
Speaker 1: did a lot more than just controlling the flow unvetted
Speaker 1: population massing through our country illegally. It's affecting crime, it
Speaker 1: has affected homelessness in this country.
Speaker 2: You mentioned the cartels.
Speaker 1: So the success at securing the border finally has done
Speaker 1: a myriad of things for this country and allows the
Speaker 1: president maybe to focus on, Okay, now what we've got left,
Speaker 1: Let's get these people off the streets. Eh, don't you think?
Speaker 5: I think you're exactly right. And to me, there's nothing
Speaker 5: more fundamental, absolutely nothing more fundamental to a country of
Speaker 5: knowing who comes across your border. And what they're bringing.
Speaker 5: And the media has obviously focused a lot on the
Speaker 5: people coming across the border illegally, but what they weren't
Speaker 5: really focused on is what they're carrying with them, what
Speaker 5: they're bringing with them, what they have, let you know,
Speaker 5: the plastic bags they've swallowed, or what they're trying to
Speaker 5: smuggle in or their bags or ice chesses or what
Speaker 5: they have you know, sewed into their suits or clothes
Speaker 5: or shirts, and so that there was sort of all
Speaker 5: always the focus on the people, but not what they
Speaker 5: were bringing across. And to me, the fentanyl coming across
Speaker 5: the border in the last five years was just such
Speaker 5: a game changer that moved it from this is really
Speaker 5: bad to this is an existential threat to the United States.
Speaker 5: Think about the fact that more people were dying in
Speaker 5: fentanyl in about three months than all the wars on
Speaker 5: terror over the last twenty five years combined, every year
Speaker 5: added up mine just to give you just that, you know,
Speaker 5: literally more people have died in Finnyl in the last
Speaker 5: four and a half years than all American military servicemen
Speaker 5: and women and the intelligence agencies for the last one
Speaker 5: hundred years. So if you had a world war two, Korea, Vietnam,
Speaker 5: Global War on Terror, Afghanistan, Iraq, a few others coast
Speaker 5: of some of the UN activities. Add up all the
Speaker 5: fatalities of American servicemen and women for one hundred years.
Speaker 5: There's more infitinal deaths in the last four and a
Speaker 5: half years. And so the president gets this as a crisis,
Speaker 5: and so he's acting like it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's stark and it's heartbreaking to think about it.
Speaker 1: And it's, as you mentioned, a great deal of it
Speaker 1: is totally preventable if we had had a closed border
Speaker 1: and we had vetting of those people who were coming
Speaker 1: in and what they were bringing with them.
Speaker 5: It's absolutely, I don't want to call it totally self inflicted.
Speaker 5: Because the cartels are taking action. China's taking action. Now
Speaker 5: we have the Canadian biker gangs up in Canada doing
Speaker 5: what the cartels were doing to the South and so,
Speaker 5: but we are in charge of our own borders. And
Speaker 5: the hire president said I'm not going to worry about
Speaker 5: the borders. He appoints the vice president to be the
Speaker 5: borders are and she doesn't even go to the border.
Speaker 5: You know, how do you do that? And they only
Speaker 5: got there. They really tried to make a change in
Speaker 5: the last four or five six months, not because it
Speaker 5: was the right thing to do, because they knew they
Speaker 5: were going to lose their election if they didn't, and
Speaker 5: it was really, you know, too late, not enough, and
Speaker 5: very insincere. And I think people saw through that. The
Speaker 5: only reason they tried to get tough in that last
Speaker 5: three or four months was they were losing the election.
Speaker 1: We're talking to former Trump the homeless Zar in the
Speaker 1: first administration, doctor Robert mar Butt. And since you were
Speaker 1: consulting the president on this, this was your task in
Speaker 1: that first term, doctor, what were some of the solutions
Speaker 1: on outside of drugs, in getting people off the streets
Speaker 1: and finding them someplace to be besides a tent city
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and feces strewn boulevards and the like.
Speaker 1: What were some of the fixes that you guys considered
Speaker 1: and looked at.
Speaker 5: And the great news is you've got some examples around
Speaker 5: the country that are doing great. You got San Antonio,
Speaker 5: you got Pinel's County, Florida. You got even small places
Speaker 5: like Fort Smith, Arkansas. And what all of those had
Speaker 5: in common, they've had about an eighty five percent reduction
Speaker 5: of homelessness, definitely a reduction in deaths. You know, all
Speaker 5: the metrics you could use, less people hitting the emergency room,
Speaker 5: hitting jails. And what they all did was they focused
Speaker 5: on treatment and recovery rather than enabling drug use. And
Speaker 5: so that's number one. The number two is they focus
Speaker 5: on job training, job retention, and not just getting a job,
Speaker 5: but keeping the job. There are a lot of people pretty
Speaker 5: good at getting you a job, but then they don't
Speaker 5: retain it. And so if you can retain a job
Speaker 5: and deal with your addiction, you will make money. And
Speaker 5: when you make money, you're able to pay your bills,
Speaker 5: which includes housing over your head. But I guarantee you
Speaker 5: if you can't keep a job because of mental health
Speaker 5: or substance abuse, or you don't have the right skill
Speaker 5: set for that job, you're not going to make money.
Speaker 5: And when you don't make money, you're going to lose
Speaker 5: your car, You're going to lose your housing, you're going
Speaker 5: to lose your credit card, your your credit rating is
Speaker 5: going to go to garbage. And now you've got a whole,
Speaker 5: really big mess that you're trying to deal with.
Speaker 1: Do we need to reopen some mental health facilities in
Speaker 1: this country?
Speaker 5: I think so. And I don't mean going back to
Speaker 5: the you know what you envision in the cuckoo nest scenario.
Speaker 5: But I give a few data points. In nineteen fifty
Speaker 5: there were approximately a half in million federal, state and
Speaker 5: local funded mental health behavioral health beds in America. Think
Speaker 5: about that, a half a million beds funded nationwide, and
Speaker 5: our country now has thirty thousand beds funded, and they're
Speaker 5: all forensic beds. And what forensic beds means when you
Speaker 5: hear somebody that sounds innocent by reason of insanity things,
Speaker 5: you know, Hinckley, he didn't go he wasn't let out,
Speaker 5: And that's sort of a myth. A lot of people
Speaker 5: don't realize that. You don't go to jail, but you
Speaker 5: go to a forensic state hospital. But they're only thirty
Speaker 5: thousand of those beds left, so there's no beds left
Speaker 5: for crisis individuals, people going through crisis. They're all gone.
Speaker 5: And the left was watching that and Want and the
Speaker 5: Fluid of the cuckoos Nests and thought it was a documentary.
Speaker 5: And the place that was a about the one up
Speaker 5: in New York, a lot in Long Island that needed
Speaker 5: to be closed, that was a horrible place. That doesn't
Speaker 5: mean you close down the entire national mental health system,
Speaker 5: you know, And so I think we got to bring
Speaker 5: that back. We got to bring we got to focus
Speaker 5: on treatment and recovery, and we also have to focus
Speaker 5: on job readiness and job retention.
Speaker 1: It's amazing how something in pop culture like One Flew
Speaker 1: Over the Cuckoo's Nest can adversely affect the whole society.
Speaker 1: And and one or two examples, you know that. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, Silkwood came out and they
Speaker 1: closed all the nuclear power plants, and it's like.
Speaker 2: Why because of a movie?
Speaker 5: Well, well, candidly, that's why I've gotten the documentary business.
Speaker 5: You know. We we produced fit lit Depth Incorporated in
Speaker 5: Americans with no address, because I've seen the power of movies.
Speaker 5: And if and if you're left wing is always producing
Speaker 5: their angle, and people in the logical middle, common sense,
Speaker 5: middle of the conservative side of the spectrum aren't also
Speaker 5: producing movies. Shame on us, because movies seem to move
Speaker 5: people almost more than a white paper does anymore.
Speaker 1: What is in your studies and research and your own thoughts,
Speaker 1: what is the percentage of people who are out in
Speaker 1: the streets homeless because strictly of mental disease, not necessarily
Speaker 1: away from drugs.
Speaker 5: Well, we know that with metaphysical certainty. The largest study
Speaker 5: ever done, sixty four thousand people studied on the street
Speaker 5: is incredible and by the way, not a right wing
Speaker 5: not Discovery Institute or Heritage or Robert Marbat. It was
Speaker 5: done by cal Policy Labs. So it's a joint venture
Speaker 5: of UC Berkeley UCLA largest study ever done. They found
Speaker 5: three fourths have untreated mental illness. Of course have a
Speaker 5: substance use disorder, often self medicating, not always that. You know,
Speaker 5: there's a little group in one but not in the other,
Speaker 5: but most of it comes together. Three fourths of street
Speaker 5: level homeless. And so we know that number. And by
Speaker 5: the way, that research was done before Finnel came along.
Speaker 5: So I think, if anything, those numbers are higher now.
Speaker 1: Very good or not good, but yeah, you've got the
Speaker 1: research and the numbers to back it up. Isn't there
Speaker 1: a small percentage of homeless that don't want to be
Speaker 1: off the streets?
Speaker 2: Doctor?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I don't think it happens in your first
Speaker 5: day of experiencing homelessness. I don't think you you know,
Speaker 5: and you're in high school and say, you know, instead
Speaker 5: of being a doctor, I want to become a homeless
Speaker 5: guy on the street. But what happens is when you
Speaker 5: do all this compassion and no accountabilit and people are
Speaker 5: just giving you stuff, free housing, free food, free clothes,
Speaker 5: free things, you start in enabling a person to a
Speaker 5: point where they feel comfortable on the street and they
Speaker 5: don't want to go through with, you know, the hard
Speaker 5: withdrawals or the recovery of the substance that people are
Speaker 5: scared of the recovery process, and we enable people to
Speaker 5: get there. The way I say it is you have
Speaker 5: to be compassionate, but you also have to have accountability.
Speaker 5: And if you do compassion without accountability, you end up
Speaker 5: enabling homelessness. And so when you start getting being on
Speaker 5: the street two, three, four, five years or longer, you
Speaker 5: start going, oh, I've figured this out. I'm comfortable here.
Speaker 5: I don't have to pay taxes, I don't have to work.
Speaker 5: People just bring me stuff. And there's definitely a group
Speaker 5: that sort of settle into that pattern and or not
Speaker 5: doing anything to get out. And that's why you have
Speaker 5: to engage this fast, immediately and big, which is exactly
Speaker 5: what the president's doing.
Speaker 1: Here, Doctor Robert marbt, I appreciate your time. Where can
Speaker 1: people find your documentary movies that you.
Speaker 5: Mentioned, Well, Finnol Death Incorporated has been picked up by
Speaker 5: Warner Brothers and you'll be seeing that in the hopefully
Speaker 5: in the next month or two. You can go to
Speaker 5: Discovery Institute dot org or Fix Homelessness dot org and
Speaker 5: see about our writings and in Americans with No Addresses
Speaker 5: actually out on Amazon right now.
Speaker 1: All right, fantastic, Thanks for your time again, and maybe
Speaker 1: this is another problem that this president can help solve.
Speaker 5: Well, he's really taking bold action and it's so exciting
Speaker 5: to see that it is.
Speaker 1: Indeed, let's hope and pray that it works. Thank you again.
Speaker 1: It's doctor Robert Marbun on the Nightcap and Jim Serger
Speaker 1: and his book about nine to eleven coming up next
Speaker 1: till Monday Nightcap in the middle of Red's baseball season.
Speaker 1: We break to remember in this half hour, the last
Speaker 1: time I talked to our next guest, he had a
Speaker 1: book out about he and his buddies going to see
Speaker 1: Van Halen in the nineteen eighty four tour. And he's
Speaker 1: very excited because he just told me like I should
Speaker 1: have known this all ry. David Lee Roth is coming
Speaker 1: back to Cincinnati on the twenty first at the Casino,
Speaker 1: and he's trying to find a Yankee Rose to go
Speaker 1: with him to see David Lee. His name is Jim Serger.
Speaker 1: He's also an usher for the Reds. But his new book,
Speaker 1: you know what, Jim, I just got it in the
Speaker 1: mail Saturday, and thank you for sending me a signed copy.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that it's on his Red Bike Publishing
Speaker 1: LLC company. And to call it a coffee table book
Speaker 1: does not do it justice, I don't think. Although it
Speaker 1: is in the style of the great coffee table books,
Speaker 1: but it's so much more than that, and so much
Speaker 1: more meaningful than your average coffee table picture book. It's
Speaker 1: called nine to eleven, A Time to Always Remember, Salute
Speaker 1: to Service, and there's a forward by Congressman brad Winstrop
Speaker 1: at the beginning, which I don't think you could have
Speaker 1: found a more appropriate guy to write your forward for you,
Speaker 1: and he says, just an excerpt from the forward. As
Speaker 1: I got the news of the horrific event, my heart
Speaker 1: was broken. I knew we were going to war, I
Speaker 1: didn't know in what capacity. Didn't know the timeframe, was
Speaker 1: not aware of the magnitude of war our country was
Speaker 1: about to face. But war was an inevitable inevitab villa
Speaker 1: to be I can't talk now and never villa. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, sound like Joe Biden, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden inevitability. I got it out. So anyway, it's
Speaker 1: a great forward and it sets the stage for this
Speaker 1: book of remembering. And you opened the book talking about
Speaker 1: twenty four years ago. It was September eleventh, two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, on a Tuesday, and you go through it,
Speaker 1: and then you talk about in the aftermath of that day, Jim,
Speaker 1: how you were seeing nine to eleven on digital clocks
Speaker 1: everywhere you looked.
Speaker 2: Is that kind of the spark for this And by the.
Speaker 7: Way, good evening, good even to you, and thank you
Speaker 7: very much. What a great introduction to this book. Yes, sir,
Speaker 7: the time nine to eleven. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 7: I saw it last night. I fall it on the
Speaker 7: clock on the microwave, right as I was getting ready
Speaker 7: to pop some popcorn. Nine to eleven. I see it
Speaker 7: on the radio, I see it on my watch. I
Speaker 7: can be at a red game just out of no
Speaker 7: luck at all.
Speaker 8: I looked down and said nine eleven.
Speaker 7: And instantly, when everybody says nine to eleven, who lived
Speaker 7: through that horrific day twenty four years ago, every single
Speaker 7: person can explain to you and I and you and
Speaker 7: me included what happened to us on that day, minute
Speaker 7: by minute, hour by hour, and the days that followed.
Speaker 7: But nobody can really tell me what they did on
Speaker 7: September tenth, other than I went to work, I went
Speaker 7: to school, visit my mom or what have you. But
Speaker 7: on nine to eleven, everybody remembers where they were. And
Speaker 7: that's where I got the idea from this book is
Speaker 7: we're given seven hundred and thirty times. Possibly you've seen
Speaker 7: the time nine to eleven, and no matter where you are,
Speaker 7: take a moment reflect. You know, remember that horrific day.
Speaker 7: We were united as a country. Everybody was helping each other.
Speaker 7: Neighbors were helping neighbors. People were talking to New York, Shanksville, Pennsylvania, Washington,
Speaker 7: d C. How can I be involved? There was nothing
Speaker 7: else to it. It was the whole commoradity of the
Speaker 7: United States. We all came together and in this one
Speaker 7: fo the services all military, they're sharing their name, their
Speaker 7: deployments and endeavors that followed.
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, the.
Speaker 1: Descriptions by the veterans that you feature in this book
Speaker 1: talk about their remembrances of that day and how it
Speaker 1: affected their lives. And the first example is Claire, first
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Sir for four years. The first line of this
Speaker 1: is the word commitment comes to my mind when I
Speaker 1: hear the word September eleventh. It's still as fresh today
Speaker 1: as it was twenty four years ago. She was a
Speaker 1: Division one soccer player at a major universe. She did
Speaker 1: plan on entering OCS with the Marine Corps, but she
Speaker 1: had a major medical setback and she took a year
Speaker 1: off and headed up to live with her aunt and
Speaker 1: uncle at a very remote location. There was no TV,
Speaker 1: very limited access, no phones, had a summer job. She said,
Speaker 1: the morning of September eleventh was just beautiful, sunny and
Speaker 1: terrific weather to start the day. And you know what,
Speaker 1: that's what I remember, because it was a beautiful day here.
Speaker 6: Now, just in New York City, absolutely gorgeous, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and I had obviously no inkling of what would
Speaker 1: be happening. At eight forty five in the morning, I
Speaker 1: got to work at the radio station. We were up
Speaker 1: on Mount Adams at the time, on September eleventh, two
Speaker 1: thousand and one, And as soon as I got into
Speaker 1: the station, a buddy of mine called me. He said
Speaker 1: where you at and said, I just got to the
Speaker 1: station he could find a TV. And I found a
Speaker 1: TV in the newsroom and there was smoke coming out
Speaker 1: of one of the World Trade Center towers. The first
Speaker 1: plane had hit. And then just watched in stun silence
Speaker 1: with everybody else at the radio station. Is the second
Speaker 1: plane hit the tower? And then it just came down
Speaker 1: like it was a planned implosion like they doing with
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas hotels. And I was just in utter shock.
Speaker 1: And you know, I wasn't on the air for the
Speaker 1: next three four weeks. I was working at the Fox
Speaker 1: doing music. We ran ABC News solid for two or
Speaker 1: three weeks. We weren't on the airplane classic rock. We
Speaker 1: were just just full out twenty four to seven news
Speaker 1: all the time in the wake of nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: And that's what I remember most well. If you can,
Speaker 1: what do you remember most about that day?
Speaker 7: I was working for Home City Ice at the time.
Speaker 7: I was on my route in Southeast Indiana, over in
Speaker 7: Lawrenceburg for sales area, and I was at a little
Speaker 7: gas station in Napo, Indiana. I mean, they didn't even
Speaker 7: have a flashing light in this little town. It was
Speaker 7: like a wild outside basically. And I was filling up
Speaker 7: the ice box and the woman came out and said
Speaker 7: one of the towers has been hit in New York.
Speaker 7: And I don't know, you know, maybe a little fast
Speaker 7: and I got off route or what have you. I
Speaker 7: continue to fill up the ice box and I went
Speaker 7: back inside and she said, now the second one has
Speaker 7: been hit. And I sat there with her for about
Speaker 7: five minutes, took it all in, and then I turned
Speaker 7: on seven hundred and I took them down to Versales
Speaker 7: IgA and the iceman commas is what they used to
Speaker 7: say to me all the time.
Speaker 8: I was.
Speaker 7: The iceman comments, you got a cool job, and they
Speaker 7: ran out there and said, Jim, you need to come inside.
Speaker 7: And I sat there in the owner's little office for
Speaker 7: about twenty minutes and we watched everything on full live
Speaker 7: on the air, and I said, I gotta get going.
Speaker 7: As I progressed on with my round, I didn't stuff
Speaker 7: the boxes fall three quarters halfway because more news was
Speaker 7: coming in and I wanted to get home back to
Speaker 7: my route in the wilder Kentucky and make it back
Speaker 7: into Cincinnati. And one woman has a little night in convenience.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, Jim, Jim, hold on, Jim, hold on, what
Speaker 1: did you say? Your phone just got really garbly there,
Speaker 1: he said, one little woman.
Speaker 7: I said, if anything, She said to me, if anything happens,
Speaker 7: just park your truck here. I'll give you a place
Speaker 7: to stay for the night. That's great, I said, if
Speaker 7: anything bad happened. And I was like, that's the hospitality,
Speaker 7: the pride, the unity of our country right there here. Jeff,
Speaker 7: she summed it up in two seconds.
Speaker 6: You know. The sad thing is.
Speaker 1: The sad thing is, Jim, it only lasted a very
Speaker 1: brief time, and we.
Speaker 2: Were right back here.
Speaker 7: No, I mean months and years. People were still giving
Speaker 7: theirselfs up to New York and digging at grounds zernal.
Speaker 7: People were still going to DC. People signed up for
Speaker 7: the military after nine to eleven, people signed up for
Speaker 7: civil service after nine to eleven? What can it do
Speaker 7: for my country? And then you're right, it did fade away,
Speaker 7: you know, slowly, but surely it's almost faded away. Twenty
Speaker 7: four years ago and that's where we are now. And
Speaker 7: that's why I've written these three books is we got
Speaker 7: to keep up prevalent. We got to keep talking about
Speaker 7: just like December seventh for Pearl Harbor. My uncle Chuck
Speaker 7: was there that day in the army. Well, he never
Speaker 7: really shared anything and at the age of eight when
Speaker 7: he told me, he passed away. So that's a piece
Speaker 7: of history that he was there. I wish I would
Speaker 7: have loved to have interviewed him, But that's what these
Speaker 7: books have done well.
Speaker 5: And you did.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the other book about about nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: Time to always remember Bond of Firefighters, where you focus
Speaker 1: on those brave individuals who ran towards the carnage. And
Speaker 1: how did you go about finding the different individuals that
Speaker 1: are interviewed in this book and the Firefighter's Book. Where
Speaker 1: did you find them and how did you get them
Speaker 1: to agree to do the interviews on something that's obviously
Speaker 1: a very very sensitive subject for many of us.
Speaker 7: Still, Well, the keyword is how did I get him
Speaker 7: to do it? Is tunnel to towers, what they do
Speaker 7: across the United States. That was the keyword. And when
Speaker 7: people say you're not going to make any money off
Speaker 7: of this, your royalties is going to them. I'm one
Speaker 7: hundred percent on board. Well, I called a fire station
Speaker 7: up in Manhattan. I told them who I was. I
Speaker 7: presented them with my first book, so then they knew
Speaker 7: I was legit. And then they contacted me with somebody
Speaker 7: and then somebody else said you need to call him.
Speaker 7: Somebody else said you need to call her. You need
Speaker 7: to call this guy and this girl and this guy
Speaker 7: and I went back and forth, and then I was
Speaker 7: able to build the book with firefighters sharing their nine
Speaker 7: to eleven story at ground zero. You talk about moving.
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness to hear what they were sharing to me,
Speaker 7: And most of it is in the book. Some of
Speaker 7: it couldn't make it in there. It's very graphic. But
Speaker 7: the cell that some of these guys and girls still
Speaker 7: have to this day of pulverized concrete. Some of them
Speaker 7: said they can't go around concrete because immediately it triggers
Speaker 7: Ground zero immediately. So it's just a great book to
Speaker 7: bring out the best of America. That's really how I
Speaker 7: can explain it. There's a gentleman in there that stopped
Speaker 7: everything here in Kentucky area and drive all the way
Speaker 7: up to ground zero. He made it there on September thirteenth,
Speaker 7: and he swept on the sidewalk for five six days
Speaker 7: while he dug at ground zero. And that's what all
Speaker 7: these firefighters did in the book.
Speaker 8: What can I do to help?
Speaker 7: I'm there? You need a fire truck, bar ours, you
Speaker 7: need another pickup truck? Here, hammers, you need more hoses?
Speaker 7: What do you need? You can take it. We don't
Speaker 7: need to back just take it. I mean, the outward
Speaker 7: pore of love two Ground zero is just something that
Speaker 7: we will always always remember. We can never forget that
Speaker 7: in three hundred and fourty three firefighters perish in one day,
Speaker 7: and now more firefighters and parish of the hazardous conditions
Speaker 7: of nine to eleven than actually not on nine eleven. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so that's tremendous undertaking.
Speaker 1: A big, big, sad legacy of that day. You served
Speaker 1: four years in the Navy, yourself, thank you for your service.
Speaker 2: That did it?
Speaker 1: Did it occur to you that maybe you were kind
Speaker 1: of re up when you got the news? I mean,
Speaker 1: did that ever come into your mind? And it's okay
Speaker 1: if it didn't, I just I think about you, you know,
Speaker 1: it did.
Speaker 7: It's everything that everybody if you're part of you know,
Speaker 7: police or EMT or in the military. It's that camaradity,
Speaker 7: that bond of helping out somebody else and being a
Speaker 7: part of something greater than ourselves. Absolutely lutely it did.
Speaker 7: And you know, I was almost thirty years old, and
Speaker 7: I thought about it, and you know I would have
Speaker 7: been through the reserves at the time, and I never
Speaker 7: pulled the trigger. But you know, my wife and I
Speaker 7: at the time, you know, sent some care packages up there,
Speaker 7: donated some stuff to the fire department and let them
Speaker 7: know how much we appreciate them here locally, because you
Speaker 7: know the guys here in Cincinnati or New York or
Speaker 7: what have you, everybody was dropping everything and headed up
Speaker 7: there in any fashion we it mail it, ship it,
Speaker 7: or actually in person. So anything we could do help out.
Speaker 7: But now here we are, twenty four years later, we've
Speaker 7: got three books helping them out. And I can't thank
Speaker 7: everybody who's been a part of all these books, the
Speaker 7: first one, the second one, and now it's just very
Speaker 7: uplifting that people still want to give back and we
Speaker 7: still remember nine to liven here. It's just part of
Speaker 7: our history. It's what you and I will always remember
Speaker 7: where we were you described to me five ten minutes ago.
Speaker 7: Everybody remembers where they were, who they spoke to, what
Speaker 7: they're dating, like like you just said, it was beautiful,
Speaker 7: a beautiful almost like a Simpsons type video. That's how
Speaker 7: gorgeous for these people described it to me.
Speaker 2: My wife was a firefighter EMT.
Speaker 5: She was not.
Speaker 1: I don't know if she was active in two thousand
Speaker 1: and one. Still she had a back injury. It kind
Speaker 1: of precluded her from continuing that work. But that's what
Speaker 1: she loved to do. And every time, every year for
Speaker 1: the last twenty four years, that day she is somber.
Speaker 1: She watches the memorial and still cries or sheds a
Speaker 1: tear at least, So I know what that's like. For
Speaker 1: the connection, as you mentioned the connection. You were in
Speaker 1: the navy, so you had a connection to people that serve,
Speaker 1: and anybody who's a police or a fireman or an
Speaker 1: EMT has a connection to the people on that day,
Speaker 1: September eleventh, two thousand and one.
Speaker 5: Correct.
Speaker 1: And it's more than it's more than just an emotional
Speaker 1: connection that passes. It's a lifetime that never really leaves you.
Speaker 1: So I can't imagine if you were not only there
Speaker 1: on that day in New York City at ground zero,
Speaker 1: but then fought in the ensuing wars in Afghanistan, in Iraq.
Speaker 1: It's something that that day, that particular day, will always
Speaker 1: be remembered by them. It's important that the rest of
Speaker 1: us remember that day, Jim. And that's where you're.
Speaker 7: Absolutely yes, sir, yes, sir. We don't want it to
Speaker 7: fade away. We need to keep your front and center.
Speaker 7: And that's why I remind everybody nine to eleven. If
Speaker 7: you see it on your watch, share where you were
Speaker 7: with the person next to it, and allow them to
Speaker 7: share where they were. It's a nice little connection of
Speaker 7: pride and cammoradoty at the same time. You know, do
Speaker 7: it again the next day after again, you know, do
Speaker 7: it every day.
Speaker 1: The new book by Jim is nine to eleven a
Speaker 1: time to always remember, a salute to service again the
Speaker 1: Foreward by brad Winstrup, who obviously served our nation as
Speaker 1: an army colonel and in Congress, and is now you know,
Speaker 1: I guess gotten smart and gotten out of.
Speaker 2: Washington, d C. After issue.
Speaker 1: But Jim, it's it's a pleasure to talk to you again.
Speaker 1: And great success with the book, I know, you're raising
Speaker 1: money for a tunnel to towers with it correct, Yes, sir.
Speaker 7: That is correct, some of the towers TTT dot org.
Speaker 2: All right, fantastic.
Speaker 1: Well, I look forward to cracking it open a little
Speaker 1: bit more after tonight. And like I said, it's not
Speaker 1: just not just your run of the mill coffee table book.
Speaker 1: It's something that you will treasure if you pick it up.
Speaker 7: And people can do that how Jim, Yes, sir, Jim
Speaker 7: Serger dot com or Barnes and Noble, Joseph Target anywhere.
Speaker 2: Yes, fantastic, Thank you so much, sir, have a good night.
Speaker 7: Thank you Grey Jeff. I appreciate you too, sir.
Speaker 1: You bet an hour of sports for the out of
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Speaker 2: That's when you listen to Scott Sloan.
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Speaker 1: Kelsey is the pre eminent sports voice to this day.
Speaker 1: Even at his advanced age, he is a man of
Speaker 1: a certain age, which means he gets a little crustier
Speaker 1: than the rest of us sometimes. Uh and he apparently
Speaker 1: is in one of those kinds of moods. Now, the
Speaker 1: one and only Andy Furman joins us once again from
Speaker 1: his car. This is becoming a regular thing. Were you
Speaker 1: just lying to me when you said you lived in
Speaker 1: your car? Are you telling the truth?
Speaker 8: Andy, I live in I leave the first. Let me
Speaker 8: talk a sage, bull. Okay, Chronological age is a lot
Speaker 8: different than mental age. I made the old chronologically in
Speaker 8: the mind of sub not many, but mentally I'm as
Speaker 8: good as a fifteenth to eighteen to twenty one year old.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 8: It's all between the ears, all right, That's what it's
Speaker 8: all about. It's all between the years. And I still
Speaker 8: have it, Thank god, I still have So so let's
Speaker 8: get going. So would you with the athlete?
Speaker 1: Would you talk with Would you take a cognitive test?
Speaker 1: Joe Biden wouldn't? Donald Trump did? Would you take a cognitive.
Speaker 8: I go to the doctor twice a year. Doctor Barry
Speaker 8: Brook is the best doctor in Cincinnati. I looked at death.
Speaker 8: Everything is good, Thank goodness. I'm okay. I take my
Speaker 8: vitamins every day and I do eleven miles on the
Speaker 8: bike every single day.
Speaker 2: How's your cholesterol?
Speaker 8: Everything is good. The one thing I have a problem
Speaker 8: with My blood pressure is low way that way?
Speaker 2: Do you have a little blood for I don't believe that.
Speaker 8: For Yeah, doctor told me I'm a little bit of
Speaker 8: low blood pressure. Not to get it up a little bit.
Speaker 8: So when I talk to you, I get my blood
Speaker 8: pressure up a little bit. That's why I do it.
Speaker 1: It's all for your health, to benefit Andy Furman's health.
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
Speaker 8: You call me.
Speaker 2: I'm alic healer. Okay, what is it?
Speaker 8: Okay? The question of the day as we approach football.
Speaker 8: We're about twelve fourteen days away from college football at
Speaker 8: September fourth, the NFL opens. Okay. The question is to
Speaker 8: play to play? That is the question. I want to
Speaker 8: know why this has never been brought up before, and
Speaker 8: I'm gonna bring it up now. College football but a
Speaker 8: thing by the bank. There's no preseason games. They can't
Speaker 8: right into it, and they play the NFL. They got
Speaker 8: to have preseason games. And there's two reasons why. Number one,
Speaker 8: they evaluate talents for sure, the guys that they drafted
Speaker 8: the pre agency. And number two, it's a money graft
Speaker 8: for the owners. That's why they do it. I don't
Speaker 8: think they need to do it because when they play
Speaker 8: for when they play preseason games, what happens you sort
Speaker 8: of Detroit games the other night the Lions guy went down,
Speaker 8: went down, the running back went down, got hit. They
Speaker 8: stopped the game. The game was called with six minutes
Speaker 8: to go. To think these guys are falling like flies.
Speaker 8: That's number one. Number two the regulars don't play anyway
Speaker 8: to not getting the workout. So what's the preseason games.
Speaker 8: I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I think that your number two is actually the number
Speaker 1: one reason they play the preseason games and some money
Speaker 1: grab for owners. You know, they charge the same price
Speaker 1: for a preseason ticket that they for fake with Paul
Speaker 1: that they charge for a regular season ticket in the NFL.
Speaker 8: I know it's part of the season ticket package.
Speaker 1: Yes, I understand this, and it's absolutely ludicrous for them
Speaker 1: to put the cart in front of the horse and
Speaker 1: say it's to evaluate talent, you know what you've got.
Speaker 1: By the first couple of weeks of training to go down,
Speaker 1: you know what you've.
Speaker 2: Got, and you know Yeah.
Speaker 8: I'm not just saying this because I'm saying it. I'm
Speaker 8: saying this as a post of my guys, Bucky Brooks,
Speaker 8: who played at the NFL for five years and I
Speaker 8: work with them on Fox Sports Radio. I said, Fucky,
Speaker 8: why did I do this? He says, you know what,
Speaker 8: the roster's fifty three guys. Right, there's about forty eight
Speaker 8: guys already decidedly on the roster, so the evaluation is
Speaker 8: really not that big a deal. They got forty eight
Speaker 8: and the fifty three in their minds, they know who's
Speaker 8: going to be on that roster. Maybe one or two
Speaker 8: guys because of injury or whatever it may be, may
Speaker 8: have a great preseason they can get on the roster.
Speaker 8: But other than that, the roster's basically.
Speaker 1: Said, how about adding more regular season games? They already
Speaker 1: did that once they took them on one preseason and
Speaker 1: added a regular season game.
Speaker 8: That answers your question again, it's another money grab. Why
Speaker 8: are they gonna do it? Let me tell you it's
Speaker 8: so hypocritical. They keep on talking about injuries. Okay, they
Speaker 8: want to make it safer for the players. You know what,
Speaker 8: more games means four potential injuries, So why are you
Speaker 8: giving them more games? You know what they did last week?
Speaker 8: They had to vote, get this to head a vote.
Speaker 8: The players wanted to continue to use smelling salts in
Speaker 8: the NFL. Okay, George Kittle uses spelling sauce the tight
Speaker 8: end of the forty nine is almost on every single play.
Speaker 8: He says it, he admits it. So the players Association
Speaker 8: had to vote, and the players balked about this. They're
Speaker 8: gonna let them use smelling saalts now. Now they could
Speaker 8: use smelling salts to get smelling smot to use for
Speaker 8: if you use bot you watch a boxing match, Yeah,
Speaker 8: and the guy gets banged in the head and gets
Speaker 8: a little groggy. They put him under his nose. But
Speaker 8: the thing better bang day ago. You know, he's back
Speaker 8: in the ring. Why they didn't want to have smelling
Speaker 8: salts being used in the NFL is of course they
Speaker 8: thought that it may very well be true. They thought
Speaker 8: of masked concussions, and it probably does. It probably does.
Speaker 1: But was that what Stanley Wilson was looking for? The
Speaker 1: night of the night before the Super Bowl was smelling salts.
Speaker 8: Andy, he's looking for He's looking for the good stuff.
Speaker 8: He look for the good stuff. The stuff that you use.
Speaker 6: That's the stuff I haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't used those kinds of smelling salts for years. So, uh, no,
Speaker 1: more dispersions upon my character.
Speaker 8: What so you get that in the corner of Liberty
Speaker 8: and Vine about midnight, that's who you get that stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't go to Liberty and Vine in the middle
Speaker 1: of the day much less maybe no.
Speaker 8: Oh, okay, I'm just saying if anybody wants that as a.
Speaker 2: Sow do you know how do you know? That's what
Speaker 2: I've read.
Speaker 8: I read about Yeah, I've read about the reports, the
Speaker 8: arrests and things like that at that area.
Speaker 1: Any any NFL players have used a lot of different
Speaker 1: substances to mask pain to stay in the game. I
Speaker 1: don't think smelling salts are going to increase the level
Speaker 1: of CTE and brain injuries.
Speaker 2: That the football. The football is a.
Speaker 1: Game, as you well know from covering it for years, Andy,
Speaker 1: that is is it's it's a magnet.
Speaker 2: It is just by the nature of what football is.
Speaker 1: And they keep trying to change it and make it
Speaker 1: safer and water it down.
Speaker 2: And I'm not in favor of that.
Speaker 1: You know, Let the let the guys you know, brave
Speaker 1: it out, battle it out, and you know when when
Speaker 1: they're over there over you know, football players.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see this. I saw this stat once.
Speaker 1: The average life expectancy of an NFL player is extremely
Speaker 1: shorter than the average life expectancy of an adult male
Speaker 1: in this country, which is now down to about seventy
Speaker 1: four to seventy five. I think NFL players have an
Speaker 1: average life expectancy in the late fifties, early sixties, you know, But.
Speaker 8: You're exactly right. The joke of the matter is with
Speaker 8: the smelling sort situation, the NFL and the players Association,
Speaker 8: they agreed now that yeah, the players can use smelling souls.
Speaker 8: Get this, Get this now, if they could, if they
Speaker 8: bring their own, if you bring your own smelling souls
Speaker 8: to the game, you could use them. You know, they
Speaker 8: wanted to have them bands. I mean, you know, with
Speaker 8: him right right, let me tell you you're talking about
Speaker 8: breaking it out. You know, you just hit something that
Speaker 8: really strikes being really funny. You know, back in the day,
Speaker 8: I used to love when they played football in the snow,
Speaker 8: and the snow would cover the lines on the field.
Speaker 8: That was football. Right then they started playing games in
Speaker 8: dome stadiums. You don't think teams that play in domes
Speaker 8: have an advantage. You don't think that Peyton Manning had
Speaker 8: an advantage when he played in Indianapolis and the dome.
Speaker 8: You know what, they should ban domes? Should ban dome football. Really.
Speaker 8: I get it for the fans comfort. That's great. For
Speaker 8: the game itself, it wasn't made to play indoors. It's
Speaker 8: an outdoor game. You know, guys in Green Bay have
Speaker 8: it a lot worse than guys that play in Tampa.
Speaker 8: And they don't have a dome obviously, well Miami because
Speaker 8: of the climate. But you're playing the dome. That's one
Speaker 8: heck of an advantage, don't you agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I want to watch arena football, I'll drive
Speaker 1: to Lexington or Paduca or something. I don't think that
Speaker 1: that whole environment belongs in the National Football League.
Speaker 2: Just for fan comfort.
Speaker 1: And the domes are in places where, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of times the only issue is the sun's too
Speaker 1: damn bright. You know, they don't have a dome in
Speaker 1: Green Bay, Wisconsin, do they? They don't have a dome
Speaker 1: in Chicago at a Soldier Field.
Speaker 2: They don't.
Speaker 1: They got domes in Minnesota. But you know, those people
Speaker 1: in Minnesota are are incredibly weak. I mean, do they
Speaker 1: elected governor for example, the guy the guy stay in
Speaker 1: the lane, the guy.
Speaker 8: Who put the politics.
Speaker 1: The guy who puts tampons in boys bathrooms in high schools,
Speaker 1: and you know the governor of Minnesota soda. Of course
Speaker 1: they've got a dome stadium there for those softies.
Speaker 8: Jeez, I can't connect that. I don't get it. I
Speaker 8: understand what the connection is, but that's okay. I'm not
Speaker 8: going to argue. I really don't. I don't know what
Speaker 8: you try to do.
Speaker 1: So you like you like you like the elements, the
Speaker 1: natural elements, because they are in essence for you, a
Speaker 1: part of the game.
Speaker 2: I get it, and I no doubt, and I agree
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 7: I don't like.
Speaker 8: I don't like sitting in them. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 8: gonna go to Green Bay to see a game in
Speaker 8: November of December, but I enjoy watching it on TV.
Speaker 8: That's way it should be. I mean, that's football, it
Speaker 8: really is.
Speaker 1: NFL is a TV sport. Andy, and you know, and and.
Speaker 2: It's it's so popular, it's.
Speaker 1: So popular that we can watch it from the domed
Speaker 1: comfort of our living rooms. The hell with the people
Speaker 1: who are paying two hundred dollars or three hundred dollars
Speaker 1: for a ticket and braving the elements.
Speaker 8: Well, for the time being, at the TV sport where
Speaker 8: not an ESPN that's taking over the NFL that work,
Speaker 8: and there's gonna be allowed to pay for a view deals.
Speaker 8: I think they're gonna kill a goose that laid the
Speaker 8: golden egg. You know, sometimes less is more. I've always
Speaker 8: believe that less it's probably more. And in an NFL situation,
Speaker 8: you got it good, you really do. You got it great.
Speaker 8: You know, the number one sport if you were to
Speaker 8: judge popularity of sports in our country right now, it's
Speaker 8: NFL football A, and I would say college football B.
Speaker 7: That's basically where we're.
Speaker 8: At right now in our country.
Speaker 2: Where's baseball rank? Where's baseball rank? On your list?
Speaker 8: Baseball? I think baseball and the NBA basketball probably two.
Speaker 8: They're very close, they're close by. I don't know, I
Speaker 8: don't know what baseball is. I just think that baseball
Speaker 8: maybe too long, maybe the season is too long. I
Speaker 8: don't know. You play all those hundred and sixty two
Speaker 8: games and then you go into a long, long, gated
Speaker 8: playoffs system. What are you trying to prove? I mean, really,
Speaker 8: back in the day, when I had sixteen teams, you
Speaker 8: know who was the best in the American League, who
Speaker 8: was the best in the National League? They played each
Speaker 8: other in the World Series. Now you play one hundred
Speaker 8: and sixty two, you got a wildcard, you got a
Speaker 8: mixtra wild card. And really and truly who's the best? Who?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 8: I don't understand?
Speaker 1: And the playoffs and the playoffs aren't the playoffs aren't over.
Speaker 1: The World Series isn't over until November.
Speaker 8: What the right, no doubt, and it could be in
Speaker 8: a cold ponas. But here's the funny thing also that
Speaker 8: the highlight of the baseball season playoffs. That World Series
Speaker 8: comes almost the same time concurrently as when the NFL starts.
Speaker 8: And that's why baseball gets bury because they can't compete
Speaker 8: with the NFL. No one can of a Christmas Day.
Speaker 8: It used to be the NBA was big on Christmas
Speaker 8: Day to get about. The NFL's got games on Christmas Day,
Speaker 8: so all over the NBA really.
Speaker 1: I remember as a kid, as a teenager on Christmas Day,
Speaker 1: we'd all be there waiting for we had we had
Speaker 1: our presence in the morning, we still had presents. We're
Speaker 1: waiting on dinner, and the NBA games would be on,
Speaker 1: and we we'd sit and we'd watch the Knicks and
Speaker 1: whoever they were playing, of the Pacers, and and we'd
Speaker 1: watch about the first half, and then at halftime we'd
Speaker 1: go out on the court and play basketball, my brothers
Speaker 1: and I for and we'd forget about the rest of
Speaker 1: the game. We would come in as the game was
Speaker 1: dwindling down there, but it was a It kind of
Speaker 1: sparked us to go out and get some actual exercise,
Speaker 1: which we were we were doing because we weren't.
Speaker 2: We weren't stud.
Speaker 1: Which we weren't stuck on our mobile device all damn
Speaker 1: day long looking at a screen.
Speaker 8: Here's the deal, I mean, the end of BA I
Speaker 8: is really stuck in quickstand. I haven't done anything to
Speaker 8: kind of do anything for the fans. I mean by that.
Speaker 8: The NHL became very promotional minded when they got that
Speaker 8: day New Year's Day, when they played the game outdoors.
Speaker 8: Was that great. They had a lot of people they
Speaker 8: had one last year in Columbus who was tremendous. Okay,
Speaker 8: I suggested this to the NBA. I wrote to Adam
Speaker 8: Silver the letter. I'd never heard from him. I mean,
Speaker 8: you know, honestly, I get it off my chance, but
Speaker 8: I'd never hear from people. I said, Adam, you know
Speaker 8: what you need to do. You need to do a
Speaker 8: Christmas Day to go combat. The NBA have Phoenix play Miami,
Speaker 8: which is warm climates, play outdoors in Miami. So I
Speaker 8: have a Phoenix Suns playing in Miami heat outdoors in
Speaker 8: Miami on Christmas Day? Why not something different? People will go,
Speaker 8: They want to be there. That's just basically what it is.
Speaker 8: And by the way, speaking of writing letters or whatever,
Speaker 8: have you heard on your poll when I said to
Speaker 8: you we chatted and I wrote for the mayor was
Speaker 8: undercover cops? What have you heard about that kind of
Speaker 8: curved the violence in our town?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 1: I think that most people most people in response to that,
Speaker 1: Andy say, you know what, we don't need more cops.
Speaker 1: We need the cops that are allowed to do their job,
Speaker 1: and we need prosecutors that do their job, and the
Speaker 1: criminals need to stay in jail.
Speaker 8: Oh, Shaun't you tell me.
Speaker 1: What you broke up. What did you say, God, I
Speaker 1: hate when you're in your car. What did you say, Andy, Oh,
Speaker 1: don't do that.
Speaker 8: More cops having a segment of the I was true,
Speaker 8: It's true. You're doing it to me. I mean, come on,
Speaker 8: you said you'd let me know. Maybe next week. Maybe
Speaker 8: next week, you'll let me know. All right, don't get
Speaker 8: more costs. You mean more cost that's gonna take allowt
Speaker 8: six months. But the existing force right now have a
Speaker 8: division that will be undercover and over the rhine.
Speaker 1: How about having more cops than three for the entire
Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati after three am the night of a
Speaker 1: huge event like the music festival.
Speaker 2: How about that? What do you think.
Speaker 8: I'm with you. I'm not the police chief.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't know how that happens.
Speaker 6: But you would be better.
Speaker 1: You would be better than the current police chief of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: And you have no law enforcement experience. Andy, that's how
Speaker 1: bad things are.
Speaker 8: You would do I do have law enforcement experience. To
Speaker 8: be honest with you, I got I once got a
Speaker 8: speeding ticket, I got a parking ticket. So there you go.
Speaker 1: No, No, that's that's enforcing the law on you. That's
Speaker 1: not enforcing the laws on the books, on on the citizenary.
Speaker 2: That's different.
Speaker 1: Are you have you gotten a skating ticket so far today?
Speaker 8: Well, you know what, I wouldn't consider the speedy ticket.
Speaker 8: I got a speeding ticket. He stopped me, said, I
Speaker 8: rolled through a stop sign. So I just that's speeding, right,
Speaker 8: I went nuts years.
Speaker 1: Ago, California. California. Role is for sushi only, not for driving.
Speaker 2: Stop right.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just like it's just like when you're
Speaker 1: with a woman, Andy, stop means stop. It doesn't mean
Speaker 1: it means stop. That's right. Stop means stop, no mean no.
Speaker 8: I wish my wife would have said that years ago. Why,
Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't even know why I said.
Speaker 8: I hope she's not listening.
Speaker 2: I'm sure she's not. She's got a lot more sense.
Speaker 8: Because he's watching some TVs. She's watching that Gilded thing
Speaker 8: on HBO, that series. I can't get involved with that stuff.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: I start watching stuff on the on the platforms like
Speaker 8: Netflix or you know whatever it may be, all all
Speaker 8: those things that we haven't I started, I don't finish
Speaker 8: it because I'm again where I started it from. CAW
Speaker 8: I get it on Apple. Did I get it on Netflix?
Speaker 8: I forgot where I found it, so I never finish it.
Speaker 6: Problem.
Speaker 1: I am sick and tired of these Apple TV baseball
Speaker 1: games too, Andy driving me nuts.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm.
Speaker 1: Already paying enough to Spectrum so I can get fan duel,
Speaker 1: and now I can't. I gotta have an app, an
Speaker 1: Apple app to watch baseball games.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Just listen on the air.
Speaker 8: He used to be just HBO was the bigg Remember
Speaker 8: back in the day it was just HBO. Yeah, I
Speaker 8: like HBO? I like Bill Maher. Do you like Bill Maher?
Speaker 8: I really enjoy watching it. But he's fair. He goes
Speaker 8: both ways. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He's well, yeah, you you you do like people that
Speaker 1: go both ways?
Speaker 2: I know this about you.
Speaker 8: There you go again. Why do you have to attack me?
Speaker 8: Do you what do you care about my person? What
Speaker 8: do you care about my personal life?
Speaker 2: I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know about your personal life. I
Speaker 1: I feel like I hear too much about your personal
Speaker 1: life as it is. And by the way, you stop,
Speaker 1: stop stop sending my wife those text pictures. Stop mean stop, Andy,
Speaker 1: don't I got.
Speaker 8: Clothes on my clothes are on. It's just different outfits
Speaker 8: that I wanted to judge.
Speaker 1: It's the kind of clothes you're wearing. Andy, They're very revealing,
Speaker 1: and I don't appreciate it, and she doesn't appreciate it either.
Speaker 8: Well, you know what, let me until I hear from her,
Speaker 8: they will continue because direct from.
Speaker 1: Upset, upsetting, jealous, You're you're gonna get a call in
Speaker 1: the next five minutes.
Speaker 2: I guarantee it. It won't be from me.
Speaker 8: Okay, what's on your mind? Let's get come and get started.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: What's on your mind.
Speaker 1: What's on my mind now is we need to we
Speaker 1: need to conclude this.
Speaker 2: We're done.
Speaker 8: It's over started with rolling here. You know what, I
Speaker 8: need to come in the studio for three hours one night.
Speaker 2: I would love for that to happen. Will you do that?
Speaker 6: Will you come?
Speaker 1: Will you commit to do that? You commit to do
Speaker 1: that right now? All right, I'm gonna hold you to that.
Speaker 7: Next, I want dinner.
Speaker 8: I don't get that. I want dinner though.
Speaker 2: Okay, you'll have to eat what I eat.
Speaker 8: Yes, I'm saying, you've you've prepared that, you're a good cook,
Speaker 8: you're a chef.
Speaker 2: I know that, all right, all right, Andy, you got
Speaker 2: it all right.
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Speaker 1: Movie sports Commando of the original by the way, wild Man, Hello,
Speaker 1: how are you don't good?
Speaker 6: All right? Good?
Speaker 2: Good? Uh o?
Speaker 6: Case of the Good? Okase of the Good?
Speaker 1: On Local Go on Local twelve on their arc show
Speaker 1: that's on in the morning with the Bob Herzog and
Speaker 1: Jen Dalton. They do this kind of casual and they
Speaker 1: ask a question every day at the end of the
Speaker 1: the end of the show post and then they come
Speaker 1: back with the answers the next day. And the question
Speaker 1: for this particular day was who's your all time favorite
Speaker 1: radio personality? And and you know, all the choices they
Speaker 1: could have made, I wasn't any of the choices they showed,
Speaker 1: because you know, they don't want to give me any publicity,
Speaker 1: but someone, and I forget who it was, said wild
Speaker 1: Man Walker when he has to be wild Man Walker
Speaker 1: when he got up on that billboard, and they were
Speaker 1: talking about that a little bit after, about what a
Speaker 1: wonderful publicity stunt that was and how it projected you
Speaker 1: into the spotlight that Bengals season and led to everything
Speaker 1: else that you were doing. So I just wanted you
Speaker 1: to know that that you have been mentioned now on
Speaker 1: Local twelve as someone's favorite all time radio personality.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jim Scott, go ahead, yeah, Hell.
Speaker 6: The folks of Local twelve.
Speaker 4: Were good to me anyway, because they really helped me
Speaker 4: out in promoting my book. I released it in twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: I really help you out in promoting your book. I
Speaker 1: helped you sell coffees in my bar.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Yes he did, Yes he did, But I know I
Speaker 4: did a couple of interviews about my book there.
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, Gary, Jeff.
Speaker 4: There's two things at EBN that did that people will
Speaker 4: never forget in this town.
Speaker 6: One is the fireworks and one is the billboard.
Speaker 4: Those are the two best promotions in the history of
Speaker 4: that radio station.
Speaker 2: That is it is still to this day.
Speaker 4: We're talking nineteen ninety one, we're talking what thirty four
Speaker 4: years ago, and people still remember.
Speaker 1: That, no doubt about it. And it was memorable and
Speaker 1: it was it was a stunt that people came. Oh,
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you too. Next Sunday. I know
Speaker 1: that you're kind of a you're kind of a Beatles fan, right,
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 4: A big Beatles fan, kind of a Beatle I saw
Speaker 4: them twice, and.
Speaker 1: You know I did. I did Breakfast with the Beatles
Speaker 1: for years on the fun.
Speaker 6: Yes, you did on Sunday mornings and never had me off.
Speaker 6: But that's okay.
Speaker 1: This coming Sunday, we're doing a recreation of the anniversary
Speaker 1: parties we used to throw at halps Irish Pub there
Speaker 1: on Erie in Hyde Park.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be there.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be there with Beatlemaniacs next Sunday from noon
Speaker 1: to two. If you'd like to come out, Breakfast is free.
Speaker 1: They're doing it HAPs. Perhaps you've been to HAPs before.
Speaker 2: I know you have.
Speaker 6: It's been a while, but I have been there.
Speaker 4: So there's hardly any watering hole in this town that
Speaker 4: I haven't been in.
Speaker 1: Well, I know I've seen some of your snail tracks anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we used to do these.
Speaker 1: Danny Thomas and the gang at Halps used to host
Speaker 1: our live broadcast on Sunday morning once a year, the
Speaker 1: anniversary of the August nineteen sixty six Crosley Field show. Yes,
Speaker 1: and we invited people who were at that show to
Speaker 1: come to these reunion parties, and it grew into it
Speaker 1: an annual thing. Every year in August, we'd be at
Speaker 1: HAPs and we'd have a Beatles Palooza, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: recreate some of those memories this coming Sunday, August seventeenth.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to mention it while we had.
Speaker 6: Time, alrighting, I just wrote it down, okay.
Speaker 1: And I saw a news story that you also saw.
Speaker 1: I'm demanding justice for Peanut the Squirrel. I don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody remembers Peanut the Squirrel. Peanut the Squirrel was
Speaker 1: a I don't know. It was a TikTok or a
Speaker 1: YouTube viral video, and it was this squirrel who did
Speaker 1: all kinds of different activities. He was very, very popular
Speaker 1: on the internet, a social media superstar. And the family
Speaker 1: in New York State was subject to this aggression by
Speaker 1: the state Wildlife Offices of New York. And I think
Speaker 1: it was some karen in the Wildlife office who saw
Speaker 1: how much fun they were having with their pet squirrel, Peanut.
Speaker 1: They decided to take the squirrel. They kidnapped the squirrel
Speaker 1: and euthanized it based on a rabies possibility, a rabies threat.
Speaker 1: The family also had a pet raccoon that neither one
Speaker 1: of them were rabid after they put them down. But
Speaker 1: the Karens of New York State Wildlife decided these people
Speaker 1: were having too much fun with their pet squirrel and
Speaker 1: gaining too much notoriety. And now they are suing the
Speaker 1: state of New York. And I hope they they get.
Speaker 1: I hope they get Kathy Hochel's salary plus out of
Speaker 1: this lawsuit to teach these Karens a lesson the left
Speaker 1: is always like this wild Man.
Speaker 2: If I had this discussion with Furman, he said.
Speaker 1: Why do you always go to politics because it affects
Speaker 1: people's lives. Andy, just like the family of Peanut the squirrel,
Speaker 1: Your thoughts if any.
Speaker 4: Well, it's obvious that they are. They didn't want them
Speaker 4: to have any fun. I mean when they took when
Speaker 4: they took the right and It wasn't It wasn't a
Speaker 4: safety issue at all, because how long had they had
Speaker 4: that squirrel and the raccoon. You know, raccoons can't be tamed.
Speaker 6: But they had the.
Speaker 4: Squirrel in the raccoon. It wasn't nothing about a safety issue.
Speaker 4: It was an issue. Didn't probably getting too much publish
Speaker 4: city and somebody just trying to get their name out there,
Speaker 4: you know, going to be a hard ass. You know,
Speaker 4: let's let's get let's get these two animals and because
Speaker 4: they might bite.
Speaker 2: Somebody a rabies resky yeah.
Speaker 6: Rabies, oh my god. Yeah, just you they get a
Speaker 6: million dollars.
Speaker 1: You you've been you've been with more rabid women than
Speaker 1: peanut the squirrel. I mean, I know, not the truth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's oh boy, that's how pet came along. So anyway,
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's talk a little football. What's going on.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the first preseason game? I
Speaker 1: call it fake football?
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: This past week with the Bengals, it.
Speaker 6: Is like watching paint dry all three of the games.
Speaker 4: But for the first game against the Eagles, I got
Speaker 4: no complaints about the offense. Joe moved them down the field.
Speaker 4: We didn't have everybody in there just seck he wasn't
Speaker 4: in there. There was a couple other guys that were
Speaker 4: not in there in there, but.
Speaker 6: The offense moved the ball.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's obvious he's got that rapport with Jamal
Speaker 4: Chase and and and Higgins. That's going to be I mean,
Speaker 4: I've said it before and I'll say it again. This
Speaker 4: team public can scored forty points a game. They're gonna
Speaker 4: have the defense keep it. Yeah, can the defense, you know,
Speaker 4: hold the other team down? Now for the defense, Now
Speaker 4: for the I also want to say thirtin stream quarterback
Speaker 4: right now, Desmond Rinter, uh, you know, played very well.
Speaker 4: Now I know it was kens a bunch of scrubs,
Speaker 4: but he played very well. And there was a chance
Speaker 4: that he might he might just end up as the
Speaker 4: number two guy and they may Chase, they may trade
Speaker 4: Jay Browning, you know, for a draft pick. There's something
Speaker 4: down the road because because Taylor zacked him, you know,
Speaker 4: really likes in a Desmond Redder. He he helped, you know,
Speaker 4: bring him to UC when Taylor is at UC.
Speaker 6: But let's get back to the defense. The defense was
Speaker 6: not good.
Speaker 4: It was not good. Tackling was well. That needs a
Speaker 4: lot that's a lot to be desired.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, it's a damn good idea.
Speaker 2: Tackling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot to be desired there. Again, they didn't
Speaker 4: have a lot of their guys in there. And Al
Speaker 4: Golden the defensive coordinator, let's not get all worked up
Speaker 4: here after just one exhibition game. He's not going to
Speaker 4: show their defensive scheme entirely. You don't do that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff early on and the guys. So let's everybody just,
Speaker 4: you know, calm down a little bit and then let's
Speaker 4: us see. Let's see what Al Goldie can do with
Speaker 4: this defense. They've got to be better than last year.
Speaker 4: A Schamar Stewart. Now, with a little bit limited time
Speaker 4: that he was in there, he looked like he played
Speaker 4: pretty well. He looked like he played pretty well. Trey Henderson,
Speaker 4: he's got to get in there. He's got to get
Speaker 4: in there soon because the longer he waits, as longer
Speaker 4: it's going to take for him to get in game shape,
Speaker 4: and that can.
Speaker 6: Result in injury. They ain't gonna be worth of damned anybody.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, twenty nine sacks or not,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's worth the damn right now because
Speaker 1: of this stupid holdout and this over inflation of self
Speaker 1: worth that has when there's still room on the contract.
Speaker 1: I know, he's at the end of his career and
Speaker 1: he's trying to get as much money as he possibly can,
Speaker 1: and he's got to please his agent and all the
Speaker 1: rest of this nonsense. He just needs to shut the
Speaker 1: hell up. He needs to get on the field. He
Speaker 1: needs to go ahead and just play this season and
Speaker 1: then the Bengals can be rid of him, because I
Speaker 1: really don't think he's that important to the improvement of
Speaker 1: their defense, regardless of all the sacks that he had,
Speaker 1: but seven of which came in what three games. There
Speaker 1: was an awful lot of sacks that came in two
Speaker 1: or three games of that twenty nine, And those sacks
Speaker 1: did not help the Bengals get to the playoffs, did they.
Speaker 2: No? They did not.
Speaker 6: No, they did not.
Speaker 4: But I think with the emergency of Shamar Stewart, that
Speaker 4: will help Henderson, you know, be more of a force
Speaker 4: on the outside, and that's what they need. But let's
Speaker 4: get let's let's get him in camp Man's somehow, some way.
Speaker 4: He's not gonna sit out the season. I mean, he
Speaker 4: can say that all he wants. He's not going to
Speaker 4: turn down seventeen million dollars. His wife will divorce him.
Speaker 6: Like right now, there's no way he's gonna turn down
Speaker 6: seventeen million dollars. He's gonna play.
Speaker 4: But my worry is when he finally decides, Okay, I'm
Speaker 4: in camp. Well, he hasn't had that much practice, and
Speaker 4: that a lot of times that results in a groin
Speaker 4: injury or a hip injury, could be anything.
Speaker 6: So he needs to get there. He goes, well, I'm
Speaker 6: seeing him do right now, to stand on the sidelines.
Speaker 6: I haven't seen him.
Speaker 4: Jog anywhere, jog off the field. He walks up the
Speaker 4: veil waveman to the fans. So I mean, hopefully he'll
Speaker 4: get in there. But let's not get all worked up
Speaker 4: over one exhibition game that the defense is gonna, you know,
Speaker 4: give up one hundred points this year.
Speaker 6: Let somebody just calm down a little bit. Just let
Speaker 6: Al Golden do his thing. That's what they brought him
Speaker 6: in there.
Speaker 1: Just just remember the last time we saw Al Golden
Speaker 1: in charge of a defense, his defense was getting embarrassed
Speaker 1: in the college football player.
Speaker 2: Hey, now, hey, hey, that's true.
Speaker 4: That's that's yesterday's news, yesterday's yeah, all right, let's move
Speaker 4: on to the Reds. Okay, eight and a half out
Speaker 4: of the wild card. They're still there. They're still hanging
Speaker 4: in there. The Mets have gone into a free fall
Speaker 4: a game and a half on the wild card. But
Speaker 4: look who comes to town. The Philadelphia Phillies. They lead
Speaker 4: they the NL East. They've got something, they got the
Speaker 4: best probably starting rotation in baseball. The Reds of lucked out.
Speaker 4: They will not see Zach Wheeler. And then here come
Speaker 4: the Brewers with the best record in baseball. They may
Speaker 4: never ever lose again.
Speaker 1: I saw highlights of the brew crew and their their
Speaker 1: game yesterday on Sports Center this morning. They are just that.
Speaker 1: That's a machine. That team is just un friggin believable.
Speaker 4: And if you stopped, if you stopped a hundred people
Speaker 4: and ask him the name, you have two other Milwaukee
Speaker 4: Brewers other than Christian Yellis, They probably couldn't tell you
Speaker 4: who they are. They really couldn't tell you who they are,
Speaker 4: who those guys are, but they're playing outstanding baseball and Milwaukee.
Speaker 4: I mean as much as I hate Bud Seay because
Speaker 4: that's where you know where he lives and he was
Speaker 4: the owner of the Brewers Milwaukee. What that would do
Speaker 4: for that city that it ever win a World Series title?
Speaker 4: Hunter Green? Oh yeah, Hunter Green is back with the Red.
Speaker 4: That's a good thing. But his groin injury, he says,
Speaker 4: he's okay. Two outings at Triple Away Louisville. How we looking,
Speaker 4: eleven innings, eleven runs, But that's Trip Away Hunter game.
Speaker 4: We'll pitch on Wednesday and we'll see where he's at
Speaker 4: with this groin injury. Because with Nicolodolo down now for
Speaker 4: you know, for almost May, maybe a month, they need
Speaker 4: Hunter Green to step up and give him a couple
Speaker 4: of good outings. And one more thing here for you.
Speaker 4: What did you think about the female umpire that Major
Speaker 4: League Baseball brought in to umpire two games with the
Speaker 4: Marlins and the Braves.
Speaker 1: The umpire I didn't see it. I didn't see any
Speaker 1: of the highlights. What did you think?
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I think it's great for Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4: It's long overdue when guys like C. B. Buttner, Andy
Speaker 4: has Das who were like terrible umpires, especially colin balls
Speaker 4: and strikes. You know, Jen Powell, you know, why not
Speaker 4: give her a chance, and she's worked her way up
Speaker 4: through the ranks. I mean, she's started at the bottom
Speaker 4: and worked their way up through the ranks. And I
Speaker 4: know she's not gonna be a Robin umpire, but from
Speaker 4: what I read this morning, she got high marks from
Speaker 4: the Braves manager working behind the plate.
Speaker 1: Well here's the thing, wild man, they can't do any
Speaker 1: worse than the lot as you just mentioned that they've
Speaker 1: got right now. I have watched so many games where
Speaker 1: the home plate umpire has zero idea where the strike
Speaker 1: zone is. It's changing the entire game. It's not consistent.
Speaker 1: And you know, I can't wait for the Balls and
Speaker 1: Strikes robot to kick in next year because it's going
Speaker 1: to solve a lot of problems. And it's you know,
Speaker 1: for the Reds particularly, they've been victims more often than
Speaker 1: a lot of other teams have really bad ball and
Speaker 1: strike calling at the home plate, especially they're pitchers, and
Speaker 1: I cannot wait for that to finally be corrected. I
Speaker 1: was against it at first because I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: umpires are part of the natural element of the game.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a variable, the human variable. You've got
Speaker 1: to allow for that. But not after this year. After
Speaker 1: this year. I have watched so many bad called games
Speaker 1: at the at the home Plate that I'm ready for
Speaker 1: a woman, a robot, anything other than the lot we've
Speaker 1: got right now, your thoughts, I.
Speaker 4: Really don't like the robot umpire. I mean, I can
Speaker 4: live with it, but to me, it's the human factor.
Speaker 4: They're taking too much out of the human factor of
Speaker 4: the game. And if you know, if you're allows the umpire,
Speaker 4: you get replaced.
Speaker 6: It's like at work, if you don't do your job,
Speaker 6: you might get fired.
Speaker 4: And that some of these umpires have no business being
Speaker 4: in the major leagues.
Speaker 6: Ce B Butner is a terrible umpire, not only at
Speaker 6: home Blade, but on the basis.
Speaker 4: And he's got a hot temper. Yes, Das has a
Speaker 4: hot temper. They think people come there to see them umpire.
Speaker 4: And there's a few other ones in there. If you're
Speaker 4: not cutting it, you get rid of them, and you
Speaker 4: bring up other umpires who've been working their asses off
Speaker 4: down in the minor leagus. There's going to be some
Speaker 4: their umpires that are much better than those guys.
Speaker 6: And asked for Pam asked for Jen Powell.
Speaker 4: Like I said, she's worked her way up and and
Speaker 4: I earned a shot from what I understand. You know,
Speaker 4: she did well at first base, which was it's not
Speaker 4: a tough that's not a tough job. But umpiring, she
Speaker 4: she did okay on balls and strikes, and hopefully they'll
Speaker 4: move her around and she'll get more opportunities. I mean, look,
Speaker 4: the NBA they brought up, they got they've got women referees.
Speaker 2: Now, right, and the NFL does.
Speaker 6: The NFL's got women aligne judges and that. So it's
Speaker 6: a major league baseball here they are.
Speaker 4: They're always like, you know, dragging, you know, dragging their
Speaker 4: feet to do anything, you know, anything different.
Speaker 6: Always got to be the last in line.
Speaker 4: But this is a good step forward and maybe there'll
Speaker 4: be other female umpires and other you know girls out there.
Speaker 4: You know they are seeing there saying, hey, I want
Speaker 4: to be an umpire in the major leagues and won't
Speaker 4: it can't hurt, can't hurt the game. But after the
Speaker 4: you know, the robot umpire, I'm not a big fan
Speaker 4: of it. I know they're coming, Empires, I know it's coming,
Speaker 4: and I don't like it. But I say, if you're
Speaker 4: not not cut, you're not cutting it. I'm cutting the
Speaker 4: mustard as anty griffind would say, then you get replaced.
Speaker 1: Who was that awful umpire that years ago? Eric greg
Speaker 1: was his name?
Speaker 7: Oh, er well, the.
Speaker 6: Worst umpire in my lifetime was Charlie Williams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember.
Speaker 4: He was really bad and I used to get on
Speaker 4: him at the ballpark. He'd hate it me because when
Speaker 4: I'd see him, I would always on him and lay
Speaker 4: right before the game and I would yell at him
Speaker 4: saying he was the worst umpire in a history of baseball.
Speaker 4: Game they want to use my glasses tompire third days
Speaker 4: or whatever. And he was was not only was he
Speaker 4: terror umpire, he was a lazy umpire, a lazy umpire
Speaker 4: and a terrible umpire. He threw Steve Garvey. Steve Garvey
Speaker 4: got thrown out of one game in his career. You
Speaker 4: know what Steve Garvey said to him, what bear down?
Speaker 6: Bear down? He threw him out of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 6: bear down.
Speaker 4: Charlie Williams has been Eric Greig was horrible too. Remember
Speaker 4: that strikes on the head against them when the Braves
Speaker 4: fgured whe they play was the World Series?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's strike some terrible. That was a joke and
Speaker 6: they get away with that. They get away with that.
Speaker 1: I say, bring the girls on, wild Man, if they're
Speaker 1: if they're competent, if they are qualified.
Speaker 6: Bring them. I got no problem with it all at all.
Speaker 1: And and be careful that you don't choose a rabid one,
Speaker 1: because then we'll have to put them down.
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, we'll have fun with that.
Speaker 8: Can't have fun with that.
Speaker 1: Remember you're you're somebody's favorite radio personality.
Speaker 6: Somebody somebody was out there so likes me, have you?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: So I got two? Okay, I got that going on.
Speaker 1: Don't forget about the Beatles thing. It HAPs next Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 6: Twelve to two. It halps on Sunday, gotcha.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, all right, bring bring it. Got any more
Speaker 1: copies of your book, I'll help you sell a couple.
Speaker 6: Of more copies.
Speaker 4: No copy of my book, but I think i'll bring
Speaker 4: a copy of my my of the of my eight
Speaker 4: millimeter film of.
Speaker 6: The Crosley Field that I've got.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, i'd love to see that. All right, wild Man,
Speaker 2: have a good night.
Speaker 6: They've got a BCR there. Maybe we can plug it in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ninety night, see you later, night night. Get back
Speaker 1: in your pajamas. And with that we'll wrap things up
Speaker 1: in just a moment.
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Speaker 3: changes into his metal suit, pushes a button on his forearm,
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