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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong

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with Molly Anyway and David Harsan. If you'd like to

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email the show, please do so at radio at the

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Speaker 2: We love to hear from you, Molly. I think we're

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about forty two weeks away from the election. Wait? Is

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that forty three days away from the election? Weeks?

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Speaker 3: Like weeks?

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Speaker 2: For sure? For sure, it's not a lot of time.

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Speaker 3: Well, and we're really in the election right now because

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people have already begun voting in many states, so we're

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just in a six week long election day.

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Speaker 1: People are voting in states like Virginia, I believe, and

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we still don't.

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Speaker 2: We still have not had.

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Speaker 1: A real interview with one of the presidential candidates, not

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no press conference.

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Speaker 2: I think she's due.

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Speaker 1: I think Kamala Harris is doing an interview with who's

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she doing one with?

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to run tomorrow. I forget. But

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it's unprecedented, right it is.

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Speaker 3: And also of note is that the corporate media aren't

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just fine with this, they're helping make it happen. It

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seems that they many of them understand that if Kamala

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Harris were to speak more, it would hurt her even more.

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That's their theory of the race, and so they are

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just helping protect her, keeping her in Joe Biden's basement

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for verbial basement.

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Speaker 1: It's going to the interview is going to be on MSNBC,

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so you know it's going to be real tough with

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Stephanie Rule.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, good Stephie Rule, who this weekend was saying,

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we can't interview her because we know that Donald Trump

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is bad and that's all that you need to note about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And in some sense, I think it's correct that

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this election is going to be about a referendum on

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Donald Trump. In some ways, I think we don't know

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anything about Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: She's done nothing to impress voters.

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Speaker 1: So it's I think for many I mean obviously many

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people just vote party line, but I think for many

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other voters it's going to be how they feel about

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Donald Trump, if they.

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Speaker 2: Can trust or not.

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Speaker 3: I think that's not quite capturing all of it. I

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don't think the race is between Trump and Harris so

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much as it's between the regime and those who oppose

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the regime. It's not it doesn't really matter who the

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particular people are. What matters is whether you like the

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administrative state, the interagency consensus running everything, or whether you

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think that it has failed and you want someone with

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a more like America first attitude. It's not really about

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the individuals, it's about the what system you want in

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a way, so to that end, to that end, you

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don't need to know much about Kamala Harris, and you

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already know what you need to know about Trump.

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 1: But there are people out there who aren't that involved

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or don't care that much about politics, who vote who

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I think probably are thinking about the economy first and foremost.

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It seems like in every poll when you ask sorry

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voters who they're you know, their top interest, it's almost

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always the top three or four will be about economics.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, I mean, so, hold on.

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Speaker 3: The polls have pretty consistently shown the border as a

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number one or number two issue, with the economy also

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a number one or number two issue. It's economy and

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border with.

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Speaker 1: I think the border is important. I think it's an

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underrated issue. I think at twenty sixteen that was the

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issue that probably won Donald Trump the race. A lot

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of people I don't even know that it's properly reflected

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in polls because I think people, you know, are nervous

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about sounding intolerant or something when they talk about it.

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But I think it's a huge issue for people not

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saying I'm Joe average out there, but whenever I speak

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to normal folks, my neighbors, anything about politics, that is

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an issue that does come up more than I think

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polsters or people in DC probably know so. And what's

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going on now in many ways is just anarchy. And

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being a person who's pro healthy immigrant, healthy immigration.

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Speaker 2: Numbers, I think this hurts.

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Speaker 1: Are you know, the normal person's idea of immigration, I

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think is being battered.

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Speaker 3: Did you follow President Trump's speech or it was at

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a rally. It was kind of a segment of a

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rally where he talked about immigration sort of in general,

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meaning it's not just about illegal immigration, it's also about

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just these massive numbers of immigrants and how it affects

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a country. And so he was talking about how it

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takes a really long time to build a healthy culture

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and it can be torn down very quickly, and he

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was pointing to various cities in Europe that have had

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their you know this, like their long traditions kind of

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destroyed overnight, and it reminded me of Christopher Caldwell's book

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What Is That Like? Reflections on the Revolution in Europe,

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which it was such oppression book. I mean, it came

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out a while back, and it really looks at all

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of these problems that Europe has been having because of

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its immigration policy, and it's less about you know, legal

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versus illegal, and more just about what it means to

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have a country with borders and people who inhabit those

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borders and whether they are completely interchangeable or not. And

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I think we've we've really not had good conversations about that,

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and we haven't thought through all the repercussions of dramatic

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changes in population.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean I wrote a book called Your

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it failed and how we are doing the same thing

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in many ways. And for me, obviously very complicated topic.

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But we need to assimilate people come here and not

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just bring people here. And the you know, the Left

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for the most part, doesn't really want to assimilate people

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into the American system because they most of most of

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them don't believe in the American system. So we have

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people coming here, who aren't you know, who aren't learning

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the language, who don't believe in American bourgeois values. I'm

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not saying all of them, but some of them. And yeah,

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when you overtax the system in that way, it's going

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to be problematic. I think, you know, as a you know,

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immigrants in the past also had a transitionary period, but

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at the end of that they were fully Americanized, as

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it were, And I just don't feel like that's happening

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right now, and I think that's a problem.

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Speaker 3: So in fact, it's opposed, Like the idea that assimilation

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is a good thing is viewed as anathema by many

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people in our administrative state.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're in a school in a blue state,

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they're going to teach in elementary school, you send your kid,

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there're an immigant, they're going to teach you. America is

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a bad place they're going to teach you. It's an

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unfair place. They're going to teach you. It's a racist place.

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So how can you assimilate people into a society that

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is none of those things? Really when this is you know,

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what they're learning anyway. So, yeah, it's a debate we

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need to have but are we having any serious debates

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about anything right now? No?

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Speaker 2: Not really.

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Speaker 3: No, That's what I kind of liked about this speech though.

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It was really well written. So I don't know who

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not that Donald Trump doesn't have a way with words,

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but this particular section of the speech seemed really well

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reasoned and thoughtful and all that, so I was kind

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of curious to learn more about it.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, how do you feel about it? Yeah? Sorry,

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go on, I'm just going to ask what.

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Speaker 3: Do you think about the race? But if you have

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a question, No, I was going.

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Speaker 2: To ask you the same exact thing. As you know.

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Speaker 1: I try never since twenty sixteen to make predictions. I

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don't know, you know, I see some stories I think

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it was and NBC News today telling me that Harris

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is kind of moving, you know, is splitting some room

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between herself and Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: But when I look at polls, they all.

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Speaker 3: Wait in a good way or in a bad way.

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Speaker 2: In a good way, in a good way for Harris.

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full show improvement for Harris, trouble for Trump.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's true. I'm not an expert on polling, but

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the polls I see. What they tell me is that

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Trump is doing better in a lot of places in

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polling that he did in twenty sixteen or twenty twenty.

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And if I was Harris, that would worry me. Obviously,

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the polls are super close, there are many of them

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are in these in these important states or within you know,

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two or three points, which I don't think really matter.

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So I don't know is my answer to that. I

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feel like Donald Trump, though, is doing better than a

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lot of these mainstream i'm sorry, establishment or media organization

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and say is how about you?

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Speaker 2: What do you feel?

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Speaker 3: So I just want to preface everything by saying that

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I totally think she could win. That's a that's not

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just within the realm of possibility. But she has you know,

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she's got a good enough chance. She's not out of

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it or anything like that. But when I look at

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the range of possibilities, my range goes from she could

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win to Trump could win pretty big. I think the

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reason why the campaigns are not in Chuck Todd mode.

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I mean, the Kamala Harris campaign clearly is a little

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freaked out about where she is in the polls right now.

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the polls. She is. But if you looked at the

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twenty sixteen race and the twenty twenty race, they essentially

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were tied races, meaning the first race came down to

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about eighty thousand votes across three states, and the second

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race came down to forty three thousand votes across three states.

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They were very very close, and the polling in both

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of those races had the Democrat way way way ahead

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of where Kamala Harris is now. So if you had

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two essentially tied races, one which you eked out and

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one which you lost, and your current candidate is running

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five to ten points behind, that that's not good for you. Now.

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Chuck Todd is only like narrowly correct in that the

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polls which systematically over state Democrat advantage have her ahead.

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Some of them do, some of them have her tide.

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The New York Times Sienpol has her tide. The New

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York Times Sienapol had Biden up eight points at this

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point in the race. The New York Times Sienapol also

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has Trump up in the in many of the swing states,

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Kamala up in a in many. You know, they're they're

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kind of evenly divided in the swing states. So I

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think if you look at the campaigns and what they're doing,

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it seems that the Trump and Harris campaigns agree that

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Harris will need a lot of help to eke it out.

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Speaker 1: A lot of these polls that I'm seeing are national polls,

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which tell me really nothing. Every election, we have these

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polls and everyone sort of focuses on them, but the

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so called popular vote is irrelevant to me. I think

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it's really important to look at state poles, and in

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a lot of the Pennsylvania polls, for instance, Trump is

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either tied or slightly behind, maybe one point behind. I

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think he's right now Harris's and the real clearer. Harris

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is up point six percent in the polling average. That's

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not enough for her, I think, you know, compared to

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the compared to what we've seen before Georgia, Trump is

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up in Arizona. He's doing surprisingly well, So I don't

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you know, I feel like he's doing pretty well, right

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is acting, the way she wants to have another debate,

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and all these things tell me that they think that

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they're probably behind right now. You know, her actions tell

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me they think they're behind. I don't know if you

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agree with that.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, I'm not when I kind of do

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wish that there were another debate. In a way, I

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just can't imagine anyone in our propaganda press being allowed

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to participate in yet another one of these ridiculous ambushes.

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So it's not about my personal view. I like debates.

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I like to watch them, but the fact that Kamala

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Harris is screaming for one and Donald Trump says he's

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not going to give one suggests that they both agree

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about the state of the race and that she needs

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a debate to get to help her out, and that

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Speaker 1: I mean, so many of the ABC fact checks have

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Speaker 3: And then so you've got the polls, which, if you

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understand the polls and how they tend to overstate Democrats

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support in elections, we're can do well. You've got the

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debate issue, but you also have just the fundamentals of

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the race seem to be in Donald Trump's favor.

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Speaker 2: So, you know, not fundamentals like what fundamentals like people do.

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Speaker 3: Not think the economy is going well, and also the

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economy is not going well. And you look at how

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Trump did well in twenty sixteen. Yes, I think the

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border wall was a huge part of that, but so

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was the fact that the economy had been kind of

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stagnant for all eight years under Barack Obama. Likewise, you've

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had a pretty rough go of things from the beginning

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of COVID, and people remember what the Trump presidency was

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like economically, it was not that long ago, and it's

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been a grind, And the inflation in particular has been

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a grind for people who feed their families. And so

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you've got that issue kind of just constantly on people's

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and you've got the border chaos that many people throughout

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the country are dealing with, large scale, massive immigration throughout

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the country. Those things really helped Donald Trump. Now, abortion,

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for the furvor for ending onborn life is a main

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motivating factor for Democrats. That's true, but it doesn't rank

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as high as those other two issues on polling, even

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if people who want to kill onborn children are quite

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rabid about it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, let's talk about a couple of things. One

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the economy. I saw this.

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Speaker 2: Where is it?

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Speaker 1: This letter signed by four hundred economists endorsing Kamala Harris

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warning against Trump's policy agenda. The list was put together

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by a guy named Brian Dees who works for the

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White House. This is the guy who argued that spending

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trillions of dollars would help bring down inflation.

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Speaker 2: Just to give you an idea of the people, Reymoist,

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then yes, exactly. So I just want to.

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Speaker 1: Quickly say these lists by experts have no meaning anymore,

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because these people are all willing to sell their souls,

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and I mean it on all over, you know, politically.

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But Kamala Harris came forward with a price fixing scheme

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on groceries, which every economist on Earth knows is a

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terrible idea, and yet they endorse her. She came forward

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with this unrealized capital gains tax idea which is just

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will destroy the market. They virtually every economist thinks it's

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a terrible idea, and they still endorse her. So these

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kind of expert endorsements I don't think mean very much.

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But I wanted to and I think you wanted to

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talk about this other letter that was where I think

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it was seven hundred national security officials and Republicans endorsed

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Kamala Harris for president, warned, you know about the terrible

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things will happen if if Donald Trump is elected. The

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list is quite interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it came out this Sunday. It was hundreds

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of retired four star generals and other top officials put

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out a letter saying that they were endorsing Kamala Harris.

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And I saw some people highlighting this on Twitter and

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the list includes like Hillary Clinton and people who had

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also signed the letter falsely claiming that Hunter Biden's laptop

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was actually Russian disinformation. So they are people at that

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caliber of truth telling, people who would knowingly lie about

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whether Hunter Biden's laptop, which everyone knew was Hunter Biden's laptop,

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whether it was Russian disinformation. But more than that, the

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list is just full of people who stand to gain

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financially from the foreign policy approach of Kamala Harris and

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much of the DC consensus. That's the actual takeaway from it.

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But I also thought it was interesting. The letter was

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very weak. It didn't have much to say about why

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they supported Kamala Harris. But one of the things that

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they supported her for was that she was an empathetic leader.

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Effective leadership requires empathy for those you lead. So in

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other words, Donald Trump would fire people like us and

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Kamala Harris would not. But someone pointed out that this

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empathetic leader, Kamala Harris, had ninety two percent staff turnover

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during her first three years as vice president. It doesn't

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seem that empathetic. Like the whole letter was ridiculous. It

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wasn't about national security, it was about empathetic leadership, and

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even that is a lie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't actually want empathetic leadership. I want effective

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leadership that's good for the American people.

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Speaker 2: But can I just throw out a few more names

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there that on this list.

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Speaker 1: Former Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper, who lied to

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the American people under oath, should be in jail. Michael Hayden,

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I believe he once said that Trump supporters were worse

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than Nazis. Leon Panetta, who's you know, was with the

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Obama administration, and others who recently said that the Israelis

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super targeted Hasbala terrorist operation, you know, killing of Hasbala

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fighters and staff was a act of terrorism. John Brennan,

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who spied on the Senate illegally and should be in.

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Speaker 2: Jail, and lied about Russia.

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Speaker 1: All these people lied about the Russia hoax, and Clapper

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and Brennan knew they were lying when they did it

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for sure, because we have evidence. Anyway, on and on

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goes the list. These are not people I'd want endorsing

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me if I cared about the country, you know, but.

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Speaker 2: It was here we are.

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Speaker 3: It was a kind of list that if you think Washington,

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d C. Is corrupt, and broken. It makes you want

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to vote for Donald Trump more. And if you're part

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of the people that benet fit from the way Washington

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is run, you go, oh, yeah, this is why I

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want This is why I want Kamala Harris. She'll be

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an effective regime. Lackie so just interesting. But I also wonder,

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like with the with the economist's ladder, these things just

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don't work the same way anymore, right now.

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Speaker 2: They don't.

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Speaker 3: You had economists in twenty sixteen claiming that Donald Trump

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would be bad for the economy, and then they claimed

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in twenty twenty that Joe Biden would be good for

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the economy. Everyone knows that they do this, and everyone

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kind of sees the reality versus what the quote unquote

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expert class are telling you, and they just know to

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trust reality.

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Speaker 1: I look, I took a deep dive into that list

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of economists, and most, if not you know, most of

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them are kind of like progressive economists, which I kind

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of compare to like a witch doctor or someone who

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believes in like holistic medice, but not real medicine, you

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know what I mean. It's all feelings and stuff like that.

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It's not based in very much fact. So listen, I

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realize most people, it's not. None of these lists are

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about the people. It's just about the number four hundred economists.

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You remember, Barack Obama, he was selling Obamacare, said that

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every economist you know agreed with him. And then I

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think it was the Cato Institute put out a letter

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from like two hundred, some of them Nobel Prize winning

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laureates and stuff like that, economists, and they just ignored it.

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So anyone I could put together a list of economists

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saying anything I want, I don't think. I think most

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people are are onto.

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Speaker 2: That, you know, I think so. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So let's move on to another thing that happened this week.

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I love the Hill has a pouncing a pouncing headline.

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Here geop takes aim at Zelenski for Pennsylvania visit. Now,

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Zelenski came to Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: I think he was on some kind of like government

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American government plane. Right. Was it an army Yeah? I

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forget what it was.

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Speaker 1: An Air Force C seventeen plane landed in Pennsylvania and

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to munitions plant factory. Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania,

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was there. And then what I think was really true,

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and I think the visit and how he did it

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is troublesome. I don't think visiting here and making a

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case for your country is troublesome. I think how he

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did it is really bad. He basically went after Trump

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and called JD. Vance a radical or something of that nature.

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You do not get involved in an election in the

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United States and that way, and you definitely don't do

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it while you're here because you're basically at.

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Speaker 2: A campaign event.

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Speaker 1: I can't think, I know that Nettagnell came over here

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to make his case against the Iron Deal in Congress

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after being invited. Probably he shouldn't have done that either,

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to be honest. But he never ever has endorsed anyone

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or made any kind of you know, campaign and you know,

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had gone to a campaign event for anyone. This is unprecedented.

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I can't think of another foreign leader has done this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the context is that he had this big

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landmark interview published on Sunday in The New Yorker in

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which he goes hard after Vance and Trump, and he

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does this in the middle of a presidential election. It

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was supremely unwise of him to do this. If he wants,

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I mean, he does control Congress and in that includes

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the Republicans in Congress. But his support has already been

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weakening quite a bit over the last couple of years,

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and getting this involved in a political race as a

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foreign leader is just unbelievable. Is also unwise of the

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Biden Harris administration to do this kind of campaign ish

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trip paying, having taxpayers pay for him to go visit

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a Kamala Harris surrogate in a battleground state as his

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words against Vance are being broadcast everywhere, and do some

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kind of like stumps with with this Kamala Harris surrogate.

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It just was unbelievably unwise. You might remember we had

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an impeachment over Donald Trump calling Zelensky and seeing if

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he could find anything out about the rampant corruption of

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the Biden family in Ukraine that was impeachable. But this,

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you know, supposedly is no big deal at all, and

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it just I don't know. I do understand that he's

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probably controlled by our government or CIA to the extent

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that if they say you're going to campaign for Harris

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and you're gonna say some you're gonna say some things

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that are very bad about about Trump, Like maybe maybe

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they're the ones who wanted him to do that, but

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it just still was very unwise in my view.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's controlled by anyone or not,

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but I do know that if if jd Vance has

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a say in it, he's going to lose. You know,

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things will change dramatically for him in Ukraine. And obviously

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that to him is a paramount important. So he comes

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over in campaigns. Now, you know, I'm very pro Israel,

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pro Nataniel. If he came here and campaigned against Kamala

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Harris who will help Iran and basically help fund Hamas

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and Hazbala, I still would think it was completely wrong.

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It is I can't think of a foreign more of

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a foreign influence than someone coming over by the way,

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you know, than that. It's worse than anything Trump did

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when he was impeached in that first impeachment. So on

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the side story, did you see that Iran that Donald

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Trump was told that Iran it has there's a legitimate,

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credible threat against his life by the Iranian government who's

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trying to assassinate him. Now can you imagine if this

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had happened and we had the word Russia in there

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and come Kamala, I mean it would be it would

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be World War three. And yet Kamala will get into

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power and she will coddle the Iranian regime just as

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Biden has, just as Obama died.

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Speaker 2: And I want to get off this topic.

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Speaker 3: I actually don't hold on. I want to talk about

479
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it a little bit. It's one thing that makes me

480
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really sad about the corruption of our intelligence agencies is

481
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that them saying that there's a credible threat that Iran

482
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,440
wants to kill Donald Trump doesn't mean what it used

483
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,799
to to me. Like I used to think, oh, that

484
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,480
probably means there's at least some kind of threat from

485
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,119
Iran against Donald Trump. And now I have so little

486
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,319
regard for our intelligence agencies that I'm more like, okay,

487
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,440
so why are they saying that? I also wondered, was

488
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this the second assassin who the FBI just released the

489
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letter from him saying if someone else gives it a try,

490
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,559
we've got one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for them,

491
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:58,160
Which was just unbelievable that they released that letter calling

492
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for another assassination attempt. That guy also had I think

493
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,119
visited Iran or had some kind of you know, he's

494
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,799
clearly an unstable person, but kind of in a Lee

495
00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:12,160
Harvey Oswald way and had had ties with not just

496
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,839
Ukraine but Iran. Did Ukraine send him to shoot Donald Trump?

497
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,599
Did Iran send him to shoot Donald Trump? Did our

498
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,079
Cia send him up to shoot Donald Trump? Or was

499
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,519
he Like I guess, possibly he could have been a

500
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lone actor. That seems the least believable of those options.

501
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:35,160
But I wonder if if someone's trying to frame the

502
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next assassination attempt against Trump as coming from Iran when

503
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really it's not.

504
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Speaker 2: I have a different view of this.

505
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that guy did act on his own,

506
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but also I think that, if anything, our intelligence agencies

507
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would underplay a threat from Iran. Also, incidentally, isn't it

508
00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:58,000
plausible that that's happening because at the same time of

509
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Iran is spying on the Trump campaign and sending that

510
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,720
information to the Biden campaign, Which isn't that worse than

511
00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:10,920
what Russia Russia did during twenty sixteen. I mean, so,

512
00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:16,039
you know, it's Calvin bul all the time with the media,

513
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:18,119
with the Democrats, they can do whatever they want, and

514
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,799
it's fine. If it was Russia and Kamala, there would

515
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:25,480
have been a Thermo nuclear meltdown, a foreign influence in

516
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:28,680
our elections, they would have been wanting to you know,

517
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:32,160
ban disinformation, you know, all the stuff that they usually do.

518
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Speaker 3: So true, it's horrible. I mean, I wish I had

519
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,400
been this way longer because I would have been more

520
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,400
appropriately suspicious of some things I should have been. But

521
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,880
I don't trust them when they release anything. I actually don't.

522
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,039
I'm not saying that Iran doesn't want Trump dead. I

523
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:52,720
actually I think they probably do. I just don't know

524
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:55,599
if I believe the CIA when they say it, like

525
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I think they have some kind of game they're playing,

526
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and they're saying it for alteriator.

527
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Speaker 1: Reasons can very well be I don't know, I mean,

528
00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:06,799
but to me it's it's completely plausible because Iran was

529
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:09,480
in a lot of trouble when Trump was president. Their

530
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:15,880
economy was, you know, falling apart, there were protests in

531
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,680
the streets. It could very well have overturned that regime,

532
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,640
and Biden, of course, immediately made sure that they wouldn't

533
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be overturned. So if Trump comes back, I think that's

534
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:25,400
going to be terrible for Iran.

535
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Speaker 5: Have you ever noticed it's only called a recession after

536
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,680
we're already in it or pasted it. The watched aut

537
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on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day Chris

538
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:39,319
helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy and

539
00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:42,440
how it affects your wallet. Economists are always in search

540
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of a recession like letter nimoy.

541
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Speaker 2: If they find one, it's already too late.

542
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 5: Always be prepared by putting money away and investing accordingly.

543
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,680
Whether it's happening in DC or down on Wall Street,

544
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it's affecting you financially.

545
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Speaker 2: Be informed.

546
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Speaker 5: Check out the watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with

547
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Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

548
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Speaker 3: And I just want to remind people our current government

549
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allowed the first assassination attempt through at best gross negligence,

550
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but possibly for worse reasons. They allowed a second assassin

551
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,480
to get within one hole on the golf course from

552
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:29,319
killing Donald Trump, also through a lack of preparedness, even

553
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though they want to pat themselves on the back that

554
00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:33,680
they did find this one before he took a shot,

555
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:38,160
so they're getting slightly better. Then, our FBI released a

556
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letter calling for more assassins in a completely unprecedented way.

557
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:44,720
I don't know if you saw Attorney General Barr talking

558
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:47,319
about this, he was like, I cannot, for the life

559
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:51,000
of me understand why they did this, just almost like,

560
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:53,960
please help us out and you will be rewarded if

561
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:59,119
there's another assassination attempt. And that's our I mean, that's

562
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just our current state of afairs with our government, and

563
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:05,400
it's horrific. That's our government, very bad. And then also

564
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:11,759
our DOJ is upset that they're not allowed to put

565
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,599
their political opponent on trial before the election, so they've

566
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,680
decided to make it even worse, put him on trial

567
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without him having a right to defend himself while he's

568
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:26,960
under a gag order. The zealous and hubistic Jack Smith

569
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:31,720
is releasing a book report about his hatred for Donald Trump,

570
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where Donald Trump does not get a chance to respond

571
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,119
before the election, and Tanya Chuckkin, this DC judge, said

572
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,559
that sounds like a great idea. And when Donald Trump

573
00:32:41,599 --> 00:32:44,200
claims this is election interference, I have no idea what

574
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,319
he's talking about. I mean, she's crazy, and this is

575
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all our government. And so yeah, I'm worried about Iran,

576
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:54,880
and I'm worried about maybe Ukraine also wanting Donald Trump dead,

577
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,519
But I'm mostly worried about our government wanting Donald Trump dead, imprisoned, bankrupted,

578
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,400
and his supporters likewise treated that way.

579
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Speaker 1: The gag order is just completely unconstitutional. I just can't

580
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even believe it's in place.

581
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Speaker 2: It is.

582
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Speaker 1: It's such a blatant act of election interperence by the government. So,

583
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:17,799
my gosh, and we're still again. We're still forty two

584
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days away. Can you imagine all the things that are

585
00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:21,559
going to happen in the next forty two days. It's

586
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:26,759
going to be insane. There's one more story I don't know.

587
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:29,559
Would you like to talk about this sexting scandal with

588
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,359
RFK Junior? Because I find it interesting in a number

589
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of ways, and not maybe the most obvious ways. By

590
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the way, the Federals has a piece written by your

591
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,960
husband called our Political Sex Scandal is a thing of

592
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,279
the past, which was interesting. So the story is about

593
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:50,079
a New York magazine reporter or feature writer. I don't

594
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know what the title is named, Olivia.

595
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Speaker 2: Is it new Zy? How you pronounce it?

596
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: I say nutsy, but I don't know.

597
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Speaker 1: NUTSI I like that better having listen. Okay, So she

598
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had some kind of relationship with RFK Junior.

599
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Speaker 3: I don't think that's true. I don't think you can

600
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say she had some kind of relationship.

601
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Speaker 2: With Okay, how would you categorize it?

602
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Speaker 3: I just would say that she claimed she had an

603
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affair with him, and then it turned out she didn't,

604
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which is weird.

605
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Speaker 2: Okay.

606
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Speaker 1: So I read a piece I believe that it was

607
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in a New York Post where RFK Junior's people said

608
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that she had been harassing him and sending him unsolicited

609
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:30,800
nude pics. I'm skeptical of that story. I'm skeptical that

610
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RFK Junior, who had has had mistresses and has acted

611
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:39,519
in certain ways, is rebuffing the advances of a listen.

612
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Speaker 2: I shouldn't even say for sure, you shouldn't be skeptical.

613
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Speaker 3: She admits that, meaning first she leaks that she's having

614
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an affair with RFK Junior, then later she says, oh,

615
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,880
but it was not. It was only digital and emotional,

616
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:57,880
and everyone was like digital and emotional, Like do you

617
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,519
mean involving your fingers or what digital means? She meant

618
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:04,760
she was sending pictures of herself to him. She has

619
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,559
never claimed that she hadn't she had any relations with him.

620
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:14,280
She hasn't. Nobody has claimed that he reciprocated this digital relationship.

621
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She and then his camp is saying, yeah, he had

622
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to block her number repeatedly because she was obsessing over him. Now,

623
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:26,440
this is not to say that RFK Junior wouldn't or

624
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:30,639
couldn't have responded. He's notorious for having like I think,

625
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,760
dozens of affairs in one year, which actually makes it

626
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,320
even sadder like he was apparently willing to sleep with

627
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,039
anything that moved previously, but Olivia Nutzi was a step

628
00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:44,440
too far.

629
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Speaker 1: I hate these kind of stories in a way, but

630
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I don't understand why she suspended. Am I crazy here?

631
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,000
They did not have a sexual relationship. She's sending him

632
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:56,199
texts he can block her. He supposedly blocked her over

633
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:57,840
and overkin, I don't know how that works. I only

634
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,519
need to block you one time, and I never I

635
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:02,760
need to block you again. And that I think she is,

636
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,360
of course a left winger, like most writers, but better

637
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,519
than most left wing writers in that I think she's talented.

638
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,159
Speaker 3: So you, I have so many thoughts on this. You

639
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,719
had tweeted something about how reporters shouldn't donate money to

640
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,599
politicians or even vote in elections because they should be

641
00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:28,000
so independent, and I'm thinking Okay, the worst thing that

642
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:32,920
reporters do is that they run pro bono massive propaganda

643
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,320
campaigns on behalf of their preferred candidate and party. I

644
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,119
could give a flying fig if they bother to vote.

645
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:45,280
Because Jake Tapper running PR at a very high level

646
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:49,440
for Democrats is worth millions of votes. Yeah, I don't

647
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,840
care what he personally votes for. I truly don't care

648
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,679
who they vote for, and they can. I don't care.

649
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,960
I know people, oh oh, I remember some guy who

650
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:01,760
used to be at CNN was like, oh, I'm so scrupulous.

651
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,880
I don't vote, And it's like, yeah, you run propaganda

652
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,679
for your party. That's not scrupulous, that's awfoul.

653
00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: I would rather people just be honest about who they

654
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:13,199
support and write in that way, for sure. I was

655
00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:16,920
responding to an Elon Musk tweet about the amount of

656
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:22,239
money journalistic institutions and journalists give Democrats and not you know,

657
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,840
are Republicans, So of course it.

658
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't change much. I completely agree with that.

659
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: But okay, but now you say, I don't think.

660
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Speaker 1: NUTSI has ever pretended to be this chest down the

661
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,159
middle journalist, right, I mean, she just writes feature stories

662
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:39,599
I think are quite interesting sometimes.

663
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Speaker 3: One of my I don't mind her writing. Like in

664
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:46,119
a sea of really bad writing, she's not the worst, Okay,

665
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:48,679
I don't. I don't have like a major problem with

666
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,880
her style of writing. I get very confused that people

667
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,159
think she's such a great writer. I think we have

668
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,599
entered an era of such weak journalism that just barely

669
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:02,840
competent feature writing gets accolades. When I grew up with

670
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,440
such great people to read that, it just makes me

671
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,639
feel bad for people thinking she's that great. But she

672
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:13,280
didn't get suspended when she put a Pepe the Frog

673
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,440
head on Evanka Trump's kid, And she didn't get suspended.

674
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:23,320
Right when she broke and entered into Corey Lewandowski's house,

675
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,960
or maybe she didn't break. She entered. She claims the

676
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,760
door was open, but she entered and took pictures inside

677
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,440
the foyer of Corey Lewandowski's house, and that was fine,

678
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:39,159
and she didn't you know, she's been openly advocating for

679
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,559
abortion for years and she didn't get suspended for that.

680
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,159
But she starts sending unsolicited nude pics to someone who

681
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,599
might have to take a restraining order against her, and

682
00:38:47,639 --> 00:38:50,639
then all of a sudden, it's oh, she's suspended, like

683
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:54,800
maybe all the previous behavior was worth a conversation with

684
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the editors.

685
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: Listen.

686
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,679
Speaker 1: I was all on her side until I learned that

687
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:01,400
she dated Keith Olberman for while. So then I'm like,

688
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,159
this person keest have the worst taste.

689
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I just feel like this was not

690
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,599
an She wrote one feature story about the guy and

691
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then she listen if she met him once. I just

692
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:16,400
don't understand why that's a suspendable offense.

693
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Speaker 3: If one of our reporters was sending nude pics unsolicited

694
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,320
or solicited by the way to a source, they would

695
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no longer work with us. And I kind of shocked

696
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that you would think that was okay.

697
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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's I'm not saying. First of all,

698
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I don't exactly know what happened yet. I don't believe

699
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:38,400
r everything RFK Junior's people say.

700
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Speaker 3: But I will say she's also saying that she's saying.

701
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Speaker 2: She's saying that she said.

702
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Speaker 1: She's not saying that he was not he was not

703
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receptive to what she was sending. Maybe he's trying to

704
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save his marriage.

705
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Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, what does that even mean?

706
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:52,760
What if he's like all I'm saying is, breasts are

707
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:59,480
pretty Olivia, you have a rear side. I mean, I

708
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,159
don't know. I'm not saying that that's good or not,

709
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,719
but like, what does receptive exactly mean? I oh, I.

710
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Speaker 1: Mean, I'm not going to say it, but you know,

711
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:08,360
I mean, maybe he was recepting and he's like, yes,

712
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,679
send more. I don't know what the hell he's saying,

713
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:11,760
and you can't make him say you what I'm thinking

714
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,239
about that. But I'm just telling you that I don't

715
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,119
really trust everything RFK Junior's people say.

716
00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: My point is only this. She's not writing about she

717
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,159
wrote one feature piece on She's not writing about him.

718
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,519
He's not really even running.

719
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: I just don't understand why this is a suspendable offense

720
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,400
when you have people doing a.

721
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: Lot worse out there.

722
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: Journalists and DC types are having affairs, They're doing all

723
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,320
kinds of things, and people don't get suspended for it.

724
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,119
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.

725
00:40:33,519 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I find funny. There's so many so

726
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,519
there's so many reporters who are literally sleeping with various

727
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:44,800
Democrats or in some cases Republicans. I think there was

728
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,800
a recent story about Republican this way too, that the

729
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:55,239
literal sleeping with the people in political power would seem

730
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,800
to be a bigger issue than sending pictures. And when

731
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,320
I say literally seeping, that even include marriage. And what

732
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,639
I mean by that is like, there are very well

733
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,800
known journalists whose wives run Democrat strategy firms and stuff

734
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,480
like that, and nobody says anything. The intermarriage rate between

735
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:17,519
journalists and Democrat operatives is extremely high.

736
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I like in Marx PC has this quote from

737
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,280
a friend of his who says, let's talk about this.

738
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,559
Speaker 1: Times reporters slept with the source. And she wasn't fired

739
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:27,360
for sleeping with the source. She was fired for sleeping

740
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,320
with a source and not getting anything out of it.

741
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:32,719
And that's how I kind of feel like this. I

742
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,960
don't feel like this relationship or whatever it was, really

743
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,920
affected anything that she was writing about. She wrote this

744
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:45,480
piece on r FK Junior, which was quite good. My

745
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:48,320
thing with nut season that she's writing, her writing is

746
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,840
on such a you know, high level. It's that she

747
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,760
gets these people to talk about weird things that they do,

748
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,440
which other reporters don't seem very curious about.

749
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: So anyway, I don't think it's rue.

750
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:03,519
Speaker 3: You like Olivia Nutzi.

751
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,039
Speaker 1: I was kind of taken aback by the age difference,

752
00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:13,880
and I wondered a little bit about that thirty one.

753
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:18,039
She's thirty one. I hate to get into gossip, but

754
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,519
wasn't she engaged to a guy who left his wife

755
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:22,760
for her, who writes for.

756
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 3: Political Hell yeah, Ryan Liza, who left his wife and kids,

757
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,280
I think for her, and he also, separately, I think

758
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,960
unrelated to her, had gotten fired from The New Yorker

759
00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:37,760
for some me too issues back when me too was

760
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,880
a thing, and I think he found out with the

761
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,360
rest of the world about Olivia's love of sending nude

762
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,840
pics to RFK Junior, and so he broke off the

763
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,760
engagement and had to do so, like publicly in Politico Playbook.

764
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,519
Oh how embarrassing. Also, maybe don't leave your spouse, that's

765
00:42:57,559 --> 00:42:58,280
my advice.

766
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: I think this is a The most unique part of

767
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,840
the situation is that Kennedy might be on the right

768
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,199
side of some kind of terrible, you know, sex scandal.

769
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 3: How can you not bed a Kennedy. I feel like

770
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,559
that's so easy to do that that's the most humiliating

771
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:16,880
part of this for Olivia.

772
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not listen. I don't know what.

773
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,559
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. All I'm saying is that

774
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,079
I think that there's an interesting there's an interesting story

775
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:30,159
about who gets suspended for what in DC political circles. Hey,

776
00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:31,639
I wish them, I wish I hope they will pull

777
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:33,239
it together and yeah, oh yeah, No, I want to

778
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,719
talk about this with you a little bit. So she's

779
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,320
thirty one and he's seventy. So that's a really big gap.

780
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,079
You don't see that that often. But he is in

781
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:44,719
really good shape for a man his age. All right,

782
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,519
you don't want to talk.

783
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: About Pete Olberman like eighty? No, how old is.

784
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,599
Speaker 2: He he is?

785
00:43:54,639 --> 00:43:56,599
Speaker 1: I can't believe we're doing this live. We're doing this

786
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,840
live sixty five?

787
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:05,039
Speaker 3: Oh he does not look good, does he? For his age?

788
00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:09,639
So I would say there are some issues there. And

789
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:17,159
I'm not a strict opponent of huge age differences in relationships,

790
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:21,840
but that suggests problems for both individuals if you're doing

791
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:27,239
thirty five year age differences barring something very special you

792
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,559
know happening, don't you think? Or am I being Am

793
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:32,400
I saying too much?

794
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say and not get in trouble.

795
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,000
I would say it's weird. I find it weird. Listen.

796
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:42,840
I think a few years obviously is what it is.

797
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: Maybe, especially in my parents generation, for instance, almost everyone

798
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,760
I knew the husband was older than the wife by

799
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,679
a few years for five years. Maybe women were more

800
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,960
attracted to more accomplishment or more mature men or whatever

801
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,639
I think of. Like a fifty year difference is a

802
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,119
weird yeah, and kind of very weird.

803
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,079
Speaker 3: So you know, you know that I'm older than my husband.

804
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,559
Speaker 1: Yes, my wife is older than me as well, but

805
00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:15,920
I was very mature. You he's like a young child

806
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,599
when you met him.

807
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 2: All Right, that was a weird segment.

808
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: Seriously, are we I'm sorry, I don't. I just don't

809
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:29,519
like any of it, and I don't think any of

810
00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:32,639
it needed to be public. There was no need to

811
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:39,280
learn about Olivia Ninci sending pictures of herself to a

812
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,079
man forty years older than her. There's just no need.

813
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,360
I mean that he's a Storius is fine. It just

814
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,039
seemed almost like to me, it seemed weird also that

815
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,360
the story was broken through an anonymous tip that I

816
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,039
think some people think was her Like she was really

817
00:45:57,079 --> 00:45:59,960
pursuing he was blocking her, and she kind of got

818
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:02,400
desperate and thought she would just make a big deal

819
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,960
or something. I don't know, it's just weird.

820
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:06,199
Speaker 1: I read some stories that say that, you know, they

821
00:46:06,199 --> 00:46:08,639
weren't hiding this, or she wasn't hiding this at all,

822
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,440
and it was sort of common knowledge.

823
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: Here, here's my thing, I just hiding.

824
00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 3: What What is she hiding? Like meaning I think she

825
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,880
was trying to I think she imagined a relationship that

826
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,760
may not have been there. One of the first statements

827
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,039
from the RFK team was he met her once. He

828
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:27,320
met her once, and that was for the profile, not

829
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:31,039
for a date. Like, how much of a relationship could

830
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:33,360
there be? What's there too? What's there to hide?

831
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:35,639
Speaker 2: All right?

832
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,199
Speaker 3: Can we talk about culture now though?

833
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,119
Speaker 2: Please?

834
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:44,079
Speaker 1: That is culture right there? Hookup culture. I did watch

835
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:46,000
a couple of do you want to go first? No?

836
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:46,519
Speaker 3: Go ahead?

837
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:48,639
Speaker 2: I watched a movie called Civil War.

838
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:52,119
Speaker 3: Oh, I've heard people saying that because it got released

839
00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:54,599
on Netflix or whatever, they've been watching it and I've

840
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:56,679
heard many things about it. What did you think?

841
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,199
Speaker 2: I so.

842
00:47:01,639 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: The person directed it, I think his name is Alex

843
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,679
Garland maybe is talented. The way the movie looks it's cool,

844
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,360
The way it shot is interesting. It feels almost like

845
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,199
one of these zombie movies where people on a road

846
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:18,280
trip and have to avoid all these kind of dangerous things.

847
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:26,719
But the story is so ridiculously implausible, just stupid, that

848
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,199
immediately is a turn off for me. The idea that

849
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,960
the California and Texas is getting together to fight this

850
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,199
war against the East Coast or whatever is just so stupid,

851
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,280
and they never even try to make it plausible in

852
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:37,679
any way.

853
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: It just is.

854
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 1: The idea that the American army would then lose this

855
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,480
war is also ridiculous, not that I guess that's a

856
00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:47,920
bit of a spoiler, But mostly I didn't like how

857
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,960
it portrayed I would portray Americans, some Americans as just

858
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:58,159
engaging in mass murder, for instance, I just don't buy it.

859
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,079
I don't think Americans are like that. I don't care

860
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:03,440
if I disagree with you, I think you're an authoritarian.

861
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,480
I just don't think Americans would act like Nazis. So

862
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:10,679
in the end, it just felt like an empty experience,

863
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:12,360
if that makes any sense. I'm just like, why am

864
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,599
I watching this? It's implausible. It makes me feel bad.

865
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,360
It's not how I see other Americans. Even if we

866
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,000
got into some kind of civil war, and I don't

867
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,000
even believe we'd ever have a hot civil war of

868
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,039
that nature here.

869
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: Hope we did obviously the Civil war. But I mean, now,

870
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,480
so I didn't like it. I would put I would

871
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,559
give that a thumbs down.

872
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: I heard from people that it was so bad that

873
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,400
they were laughing. It was laugh Okay.

874
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:41,199
Speaker 2: I didn't like it.

875
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,519
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying that Americans are perfect and

876
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:45,400
you can't betray people the way they are. I just

877
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,159
think it was over the top, and you know, there's

878
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:51,360
no subtlety to it. So while it looked nice, it

879
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,360
was just, you know, vapid in general.

880
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,039
Speaker 2: So that's it.

881
00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: I watched the on Max. I watched the ping Win,

882
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:04,079
which is Colin Farrell. He plays the penguin. It's actually

883
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:07,039
more like a mob story. And you know, I got

884
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:09,519
an offshooted Batman show, and I actually thought it was

885
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:11,440
going to be really bad, and I enjoyed the first

886
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:12,360
episode quite a bit.

887
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,679
Speaker 2: So I'm a.

888
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: Little bit gunshy now because of the all the emails.

889
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:23,760
I get mad at me for recommending Deadpool. But if

890
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,039
you are into comic book stuff, you will like the Penguin.

891
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:29,320
If you're not, don't watch it and don't blame me

892
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:29,760
if you do.

893
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 3: Okay, that's it. Oh, that's all.

894
00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

895
00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:41,199
Speaker 3: So I watched, sort of slowly with my rowing this

896
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,119
movie called Anatomy of a Fall.

897
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:47,199
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you were telling me, did you watch that?

898
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,519
Speaker 3: No? I really liked it. I thought it was a

899
00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:58,679
really very good film. It's about a marriage sort of this.

900
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:05,760
It begins with the husband dead and having fallen or

901
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,880
been pushed out of his attic and being discovered by

902
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,159
his son, and then it's about, you know, just trying

903
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:18,400
to figure out what happened there. But the acting was

904
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,840
superb and it was a good movie.

905
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:24,639
Speaker 2: Was it up for Oscars? I think it was right.

906
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 3: I think So I like to give really fresh movie

907
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:30,079
reviews like that. Probably came out several years ago and

908
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:32,760
I'm reviewing it now. But I don't want to give

909
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,119
anything away either, not that they're like huge spoilers. It's

910
00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:38,480
just more a slowly unfolding story.

911
00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: I know I'm going to watch that. I'm going to

912
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:41,280
watch that.

913
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:45,039
Speaker 3: Yeah. Most And it also deals with two writers in

914
00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:47,960
a marriage, so I found that interesting and it made

915
00:50:48,039 --> 00:50:50,800
me appreciate and love my husband very much for being

916
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:57,039
a good husband in a co writing relationship. And then

917
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,480
I also started watching the Menendez Brothers documentary I.

918
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,119
Speaker 2: Saw that was on.

919
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,519
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's interesting. There's been a lot of

920
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,000
revisionists and revisionist history on that that they didn't kill

921
00:51:11,039 --> 00:51:14,039
their parents for money, but over sexual abuse, and so

922
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,480
there's just a documentary about that. And then I watched

923
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,880
with my journalism students the movie Sweet Smell of Success.

924
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:27,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I watched it a long time ago.

925
00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:30,440
I don't remember who's in it. What's it about again? Oh? Man?

926
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:35,599
Speaker 3: So it's Tony Curtis and Bert Lancaster, and Burt Lancaster's

927
00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:39,320
kind of the Walter Winchell character of the movie, you know,

928
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,519
like a columnist who's very powerful, and Tony Curtis is

929
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:48,239
a press agent, and it just deals with what they're

930
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,840
willing to do for their lines of work. I think

931
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,400
it was made in the mid fifties. It's a really

932
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,559
beautifully done film and very dark. I like to show

933
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:00,840
my journalism students dark films.

934
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: Nineteen fifty seven, just that I'm you know, I see

935
00:52:03,039 --> 00:52:05,760
it here? I didn't, okay, yeah.

936
00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:06,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

937
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:11,599
Speaker 3: Burt Lancaster is amazing and Tony Curtis is pretty amazing too. Yeah.

938
00:52:11,679 --> 00:52:14,639
Speaker 1: I am a big fan of watching movies about journalism.

939
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,199
For instance, the other month I watched The Paper with

940
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,039
Michael Keaton, which I love, so I will watch this one.

941
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:22,519
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, great, Yeah, tell me what you think.

942
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,639
Speaker 2: About it, certainly. Well.

943
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: I actually had one more thing, just very quick because

944
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,079
of the assassination stuff. I read the book called Case

945
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:37,159
Closed by Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK

946
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:43,480
by Gerald Posner, Posner and Posner. Yeah, it's so meticulously documented.

947
00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:46,679
I am a person who believes he acted completely alone,

948
00:52:46,679 --> 00:52:48,920
but reading about him, he did remind me very much

949
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,480
because you mentioned this other guy you tried to kill

950
00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:53,920
Trump is kind of very similar way you went to

951
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,440
Russia he went.

952
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: He tried to get to Cuba Oswald.

953
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: It's just very it goes through everything and if you

954
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,000
care or interested in that case, which I think is

955
00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:08,840
the most the most the largest criminal investigation of all time,

956
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,280
you know what I mean, Like it's been looked at

957
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,840
from so many angles, I think this book will interest you.

958
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,639
Speaker 3: I think that is the best case for Lee Harvey

959
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:21,599
Oswald acting alone. And there there are some really good

960
00:53:21,639 --> 00:53:25,119
summations of that book online. Because it's a really long.

961
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: Book and read it.

962
00:53:27,039 --> 00:53:29,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but you can get some summations where they

963
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,000
just kind of people boil down each of his arguments

964
00:53:32,599 --> 00:53:36,320
for why Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. For all of

965
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,880
the work I do dealing with intel agencies and being

966
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,559
skeptical of different things, that's just not an issue that

967
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:46,239
I have explored very much. I do like to ask

968
00:53:47,079 --> 00:53:50,519
people I interview what is a conspiracy theory they believe,

969
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:52,519
or what's if there were one that were true, which

970
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:56,360
one would it be? Overwhelmingly powerful people in DC do

971
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,960
not accept the Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone theory, and

972
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,039
I do think it's weird that we're not allowed to

973
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:05,360
see all the evidence, and like they keep those files

974
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,880
so secret. I'm like, what is in them? But I

975
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,719
just haven't really worried about that issues so much.

976
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 2: Well, I'll just say what interests me.

977
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: I think they don't release the file because there are

978
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,440
things in there that would about what we did in

979
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,960
Cuba and other stuff that came out during the you know,

980
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,280
and those investigations that weren't actually related to him, but

981
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,800
that he was under surveillance by the FBI and others

982
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,599
because they thought he might be involved in that stuff.

983
00:54:29,639 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: But anyway, that doesn't matter what but I mean, it matters.

984
00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 3: But because they thought, sorry, So I just want to

985
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,639
say that I did an event recently with Peter Schweitzer

986
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:43,119
who had Posner on his podcast, and he said, you know,

987
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,719
Posner's case against the conspiracy theory is just so good, right,

988
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,400
But he asked him about I think it was the

989
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,280
second assassin and whether he thought he acted alone, and

990
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,760
he was like, oh, not at all. So like the

991
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,639
guy who wrote the definitive case for Lee Harvey Oswald

992
00:54:59,679 --> 00:55:03,199
after did not think that about this. But to me,

993
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,119
the latest guy seems just like Lee Harvey Oswald, like

994
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:11,639
mysteriously in other countries, possibly in CIA operations, possibly not,

995
00:55:12,039 --> 00:55:15,360
possibly not mentally well possibly not like it all seems

996
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,280
very similar to me.

997
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, completely thought of that.

998
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,119
Speaker 3: Witty is like in the same way I.

999
00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:21,159
Speaker 2: Was when that happened.

1000
00:55:21,159 --> 00:55:24,159
Speaker 1: I was literally reading this book and it was like, so,

1001
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,840
the Oswalt story is much more interesting than I thought.

1002
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he was.

1003
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: Clearly a very stupid, crazy, abusive to his wife and

1004
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,000
did all kinds of terrible things. But here's the point.

1005
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:39,519
After the assassination of JFK, which in my view at

1006
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:43,000
least was perpetrated by a loan gunman who was a communist,

1007
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:49,679
a leftist. The media, everything, just like now, blamed right

1008
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:55,159
wing you know, rhetoric, he was a communist, and yet

1009
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:59,920
the media at the time blamed everything but the communist

1010
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:02,199
for doing it. And that's why I think that those

1011
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,159
conspiracy theorists about him and Jack Ruby and all the stuff,

1012
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,800
the stuff that went on is kind of propelled by

1013
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,559
that a bit, and by the way pulling at the

1014
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:16,599
time immediately afterwards, because of the incompetence of law enforcement,

1015
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:19,599
in my opinion, and kind of the closed off way

1016
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:23,000
that that the federal government acted, and the incompetence of

1017
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:25,760
the Warren Commission, no one believed that he was like

1018
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,679
very few people believed he was a low and gunman

1019
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,239
right from the beginning. This is not a conspiracy theory

1020
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,039
they grew. This was a conspiracy theory that was birth

1021
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,000
the day JFK was killed. Anyway, I thought it was

1022
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:42,599
a meticulously, you know, very you know, high level journalistic effort.

1023
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 2: I just think the book is great.

1024
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree, even though I'm not sure I

1025
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,320
agree with the with him on it, because I want

1026
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,280
to read more. I want to have that type of

1027
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,559
book from an alternate perspective, Can you recommend any of

1028
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,079
anything that okay for?

1029
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:01,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1030
00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: He talks about many of the books that have come

1031
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,400
out in hundreds and maybe thousands have come out about RFK.

1032
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 2: So he kind of focuses on the most popular conspiracy

1033
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,639
theories I think, and debunks them.

1034
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 3: Have you been to the Observed what is it called? Oh?

1035
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: What's that? Yeah? No, I was never. I've been to Dallas,

1036
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,079
but I don't know why at the time I didn't

1037
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:30,239
think to go to the Times have been in Dallas.

1038
00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:31,119
I didn't go down there yet.

1039
00:57:31,199 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 3: I have friends in Texas who say that if you

1040
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,000
actually visit the location of the shooting, the Lee Harvey

1041
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,199
Oswald story, it seems quite implausible given the direction of

1042
00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:43,679
the bullets and where you know. But anyway, this is

1043
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,119
a totally separate stations.

1044
00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: He goes into all of that. Yeah, and it's quite interesting.

1045
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: I think people should send us their favorite conspiracy theory

1046
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:56,840
that they believe to Radio at the Federalist dot Com.

1047
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: Nice, yes, Radio at the Federalist dot Com.

1048
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:02,199
Speaker 2: You're only allowed one.

1049
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,119
Speaker 1: Like, if you believe a bunch of conspiracy theory theories,

1050
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:09,480
you are a conspiracy theorist. If you believe one right,

1051
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:11,840
this is your this is your view, right.

1052
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,039
Speaker 3: Then that the CIA lies about everything.

1053
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think pointing out that the CIA,

1054
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,960
FBI is lying about something isn't a conspiracy theory. I

1055
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,199
think a conspiracy theory is something that's happened. We've had investigations.

1056
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,119
People say some you know, have looked into it and

1057
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:32,360
say that it happened a certain way nine to eleven.

1058
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:36,000
But yet you still believe, you know, George Bush was

1059
00:58:36,039 --> 00:58:38,360
behind it or whatever, Then I think you are a

1060
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,840
conspiracy theorist.

1061
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,519
Speaker 3: I heard a really good one I'd just like to share. Yeah,

1062
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,159
recently from this question that I asked, which was that

1063
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,480
nuclear weapons are not as dangerous as world leaders have

1064
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,800
claimed they are, or not as deadly.

1065
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

1066
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting.

1067
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:00,079
Speaker 1: I mean, we have a little proof that they are

1068
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:03,400
pretty deadly right in two cities or obliterated.

1069
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,119
Speaker 2: So it ended on me.

1070
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that they seem But what you're

1071
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:09,480
saying is like if there was a nuclear maybe what

1072
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:11,039
they're saying is that if you had a nuclear war,

1073
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:12,159
the world wouldn't end.

1074
00:59:12,519 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 3: Yes, it's interesting, which we might I learned soon enough

1075
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:21,400
whether that's that was right or not. Thanks two are

1076
00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:23,719
brilliant people doing foreign policy right now.

1077
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: All right, so we will hopefully people will send us

1078
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,840
mail and we'll go through this conspiracy. By the way,

1079
00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:32,800
I have a book coming out called The Rise of

1080
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,639
bluing On and it's about the conspiracy theories of the left.

1081
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:37,760
In that book is about a month I believe from

1082
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,079
coming out. You can pre order it all Yeah.

1083
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,679
Speaker 3: People should pre order it. It's a good thing to

1084
00:59:41,719 --> 00:59:45,000
do so that on. So when the book is released,

1085
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,119
you've got a good punch on sales. So everyone should

1086
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:49,039
order now.

1087
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: Well, I would certainly appreciate it from anyone who is

1088
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,480
so inclined to buy my book. I'm sure we'll be

1089
00:59:54,519 --> 00:59:57,880
talking about it in the coming weeks. Until then, even

1090
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,280
though there's a freedom and anxious for the friendly.

1091
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:04,199
Speaker 3: He's mister Kennedy, I don't want to go

1092
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: M