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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>William Ramsey Investigates on Tonight Show. Have a returning guest. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked back before the pandemic started, so it's been almost

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half. We talked in March. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a two hour program with him to split up

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<v Speaker 1>our last conversation that did two parts, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>go back and listen to that. His name is Visigoth,

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<v Speaker 1>and for me, he's really one of the early greats,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the people who was doing interviews and podcasting

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<v Speaker 1>really at the beginning, you know, maybe really even before

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<v Speaker 1>I did a first show with him, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty ten, twenty eleven, almost ten years ago. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's interviewed people like Dave McGowan and done so many

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<v Speaker 1>other shows. I think the first one, the show that

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<v Speaker 1>he had was called Grassy Nole based on JFK. Then

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<v Speaker 1>beyond Grassy Noll and some other ones that he can

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<v Speaker 1>go through. But we're just going to kind of reconnect

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some old kind of his old podcasting years

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of bringing up forward right very close to

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<v Speaker 1>the twentieth anniversary of nine to eleven, and we've gone

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<v Speaker 1>through COVID, so we can talk more about that. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Hansome are you there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the original show was called from Beyond the Gress,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, by the person who actually started it. He

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<v Speaker 2>was someone with whom I worked at the library. His

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<v Speaker 2>handle was Harry Spencer. So what he did is we

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<v Speaker 2>did one half hour shows a week. Let's see. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that would be like in like March two thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and two, that would be it. And eventually

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<v Speaker 2>I took it to the two AM stations in town

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<v Speaker 2>and did it that way. And all this time we

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<v Speaker 2>did record on radio for all. So I had no

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<v Speaker 2>hand in naming it. Harry named it from the Grass,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I had a column in a local newspaper

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<v Speaker 2>and their editor, for whatever reason, came that column from

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<v Speaker 2>the Grass, you know. So it was just the serendipity

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<v Speaker 2>or a bad luck, whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's how this whole thing started. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>on the AM stations for quite some time, and then

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<v Speaker 2>after that I continued what we what we call now podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, so you started super early and you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>did investigative journalism parapolitics really from the very beginning, right, yes, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and can you talk about how that developed really from

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, and you had some great guests on too,

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<v Speaker 1>and did some great investigations. You did one about Lincoln

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<v Speaker 1>and so many of those that I remember now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. The thing is, in the very beginning, everybody gets

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<v Speaker 2>beguiled by the secret societies and such, and so did we,

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<v Speaker 2>and we kept it along, going along those lines, except

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<v Speaker 2>that I am a Christian, I'm just going to go

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<v Speaker 2>so far with it. And then later on when we

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<v Speaker 2>went on to the AM stations, it got to be

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more of a I guess, the community

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing, in the sense that we interviewed people

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<v Speaker 2>who had I mean, it was more Gellon's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>lost children. We did some stuff that was live from

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<v Speaker 2>what Katrina hit New Orleans and that sort of thing. Afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>when we left the AM stations because they were sold out,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, things are seldom the same as they

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<v Speaker 2>were before, you you know, before the sale, I started

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<v Speaker 2>doing podcasts and then I got really down on truthfully, sadly, sadly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the whole nine to eleven group. I mean it,

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<v Speaker 2>with so many frauds in there. It was it was

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<v Speaker 2>like beaten back ants because they were just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>mucking up the whole thing, and it was not a

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<v Speaker 2>very it's a very distasteful thing to do, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the way it has to be because you realize

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<v Speaker 2>the barbarians are inside the gate, and that's what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>you know with us.

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<v Speaker 1>So you and you kind of went out on your

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<v Speaker 1>own after the beginning, right, so then you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>started your own thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was Harry Spencer stayed with me to start

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<v Speaker 2>the show, platform the show, and you can still be

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<v Speaker 2>heard on shows that we did. He took more of

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<v Speaker 2>a back seat when we were on the AM stations.

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<v Speaker 2>They were they were twins stations w d c F

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<v Speaker 2>and w z HR Dade City and Zephyr Hills of Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not really sure why that happened. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt like, I I don't know, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that he just kind of lost interest in it. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't sure. But everybody loved them because he was the

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<v Speaker 2>one that busted my balls and and really played the

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<v Speaker 2>jokester to my straight man thing, which I really wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>used to. But everybody loved it and it did work.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, he faded away and then after that

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<v Speaker 2>was over with, then I started getting serious about some

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<v Speaker 2>of the problems, because, to be honest with you, I

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<v Speaker 2>had to be My goal was in the very beginning

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<v Speaker 2>to find out the way things really were. And I

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<v Speaker 2>got distracted and I did, you know, shows that people

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<v Speaker 2>like to see but I don't you know or hear,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really wasn't comfortable with it. So I had

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<v Speaker 2>a hole of back in and head toward where I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to go in that is, what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>What is going on here? And what's the real deal? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you just accrued so much experience too during

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<v Speaker 1>all of those years, all of those interviews, some of

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<v Speaker 1>which can still be found. I think he turned into

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympic files, right, so it went beyond Grassy and

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<v Speaker 1>all physigoof Olympic I mean you, I mean we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that in the last interview as well. But it

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<v Speaker 1>just like you really were one of the early ones.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a crude all of that knowledge and was

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<v Speaker 1>able to distill it. Would you share kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>your conclusions were?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you with regard to nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>that was very key at the time that that event happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually was in northeastern New Jersey. I was eight

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<v Speaker 2>miles across the river from what was going on that day,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a spectacular day. But when I went

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<v Speaker 2>up there to visit the old hood, it was my

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<v Speaker 2>want to go ahead and keep my cell phone in

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<v Speaker 2>my pocket and just walk around. And I had no

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<v Speaker 2>idea what happened until I went to visit the friend

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<v Speaker 2>of my late mother to see how she was doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and she said, oh, isn't it awful? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about? And she brought me into

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<v Speaker 2>her living room and I saw the towers crumble, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said to myself, that's a controlled demolition. The other

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<v Speaker 2>thing that's interesting was that on my way up there,

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<v Speaker 2>I was walking along this very beautiful tree lined street

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<v Speaker 2>because it was early September, I mean, he was still summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and I heard his roar and Teterborough Airport is very

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<v Speaker 2>near where we are, a lot of rock groups would

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<v Speaker 2>fly into Teeterborough and they're like dilapidated, like be whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they were to the planes and then just ferry across

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<v Speaker 2>but this was seen big and had a deafening roar.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a jet because it wasn't that fast. And

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is is that I looked to my south

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<v Speaker 2>down the same street and it was a gentleman that

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<v Speaker 2>was out in the middle of the street looking up too,

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<v Speaker 2>So I looked up. I looked at him, he looked

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<v Speaker 2>at me, and I'm like, man, some plane is in

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<v Speaker 2>trouble and it's going to probably try to drop at Teterborough.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was not the case. Later on to find

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<v Speaker 2>that most likely was. And I don't care how people

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<v Speaker 2>think about this, I don't want to know, but whatever

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<v Speaker 2>that second plane was that hit the towers, it was

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<v Speaker 2>probably that. And a listener to the show on that

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<v Speaker 2>very same day was down in Seacaucus, which would be

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<v Speaker 2>also in the White Path, and was walking between two

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<v Speaker 2>warehouses and heard it. The look that couldn't see it,

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<v Speaker 2>not that it wasn't there, it was just that you

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<v Speaker 2>missed your opportunity. And I have to admit I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see it, but he heard the same roar. And there

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<v Speaker 2>was video on YouTube that showed a plane that was

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<v Speaker 2>coming around from the north making a U turn and

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<v Speaker 2>heading for the south side of the towers. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>eventually I came to the conclusion of what I heard

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<v Speaker 2>was the second plane.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were really right there in the middle of it,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean pretty close. Teterborough, by the way, was where

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein got arrested to twenty nineteen, which is a whole

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<v Speaker 1>nother impression on your story. I mean, that's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>nother subject. But I mean that you were there at

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<v Speaker 1>nine to eleven is pretty incredible. What else what happened next?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Also what's interesting is is that I believe JFT

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<v Speaker 2>Junior wanted to fly out of Teterborough. He was not

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<v Speaker 2>experienced pilot and chose Essex, and my pilot friend at

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<v Speaker 2>the time told me that on Friday nights there were

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of pilots hanging around just for people who

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<v Speaker 2>want to go someplace and may not be instrumented to

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<v Speaker 2>what to fly at night or in bedweather. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. I mean, the JFT left from Essex. But anyway, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever whatever happened overhead was certainly not a plane in distress,

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought it was. It was most likely commercial

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<v Speaker 2>airliner that was now starting to descend and was ready

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<v Speaker 2>to make it quite a u turn into the towers.

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<v Speaker 2>But I gotta tell you. I mean, honestly, I did

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<v Speaker 2>not see a thing. The guy that was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of hundred yards away from me didn't see

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<v Speaker 2>a thing. But we both heard the same thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>the listener that was down on the Seahaukus heard the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. So anybody can take anything that they want

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<v Speaker 2>out of that. I'm not going to get into the

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<v Speaker 2>argument about where their planes. Weren't their planes well, something

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<v Speaker 2>knocked them down and with the holograms, and I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>The point is that William, the whole bit about nine

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven was who's responsible and why did it happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? And who's responsible and why did it happen? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to answer that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we do it to ourselves all the time. There

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<v Speaker 2>were three books that I think are absolutely outstanding about

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<v Speaker 2>the anatomy of a self inflicted wound. They would be

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Stinnett's Day of Deceit. He was a seaman in

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<v Speaker 2>Hawaii at that time. We got information that was eventually released.

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<v Speaker 2>That book came out, I think in two thousand and two.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also a book in nineteen fifty four written by

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<v Speaker 2>Rear Admiral Robert Theobald called the Final Secret of Pearl.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll give you a lot of insight on what happened

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<v Speaker 2>that day, and not know not to overlook what happened

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<v Speaker 2>with the main That's another situation in the Gulf of Talk.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's another situation. But another great book with full

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<v Speaker 2>of footnotes and end notes which are absolutely astounding, was

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<v Speaker 2>Colin Simpson's Lusitania. Now, all three of those events had

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<v Speaker 2>to do with the start of war, and we did

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<v Speaker 2>it to ourselves. So with regard to nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care if the Jews did it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care if the Arabs did it. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 2>the lowest Lablovians did it. But that could not have

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<v Speaker 2>been pulled off without a standdown in this country. We

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<v Speaker 2>let it happen to ourselves. I don't care if Bush

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<v Speaker 2>was in office or Clinton was in office. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care about any of that kind of stuff. That's what happened, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't you do a whole series on the Lusitania at

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<v Speaker 1>one point? I vaguely remember.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Yeah, I did. I did a series on Lusitania.

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<v Speaker 2>Simpson got his hands on, you know, previously held back information.

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<v Speaker 2>The stuff that he did show in his book was

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<v Speaker 2>let you know where this is going. The Germans had

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<v Speaker 2>sent via their State of Department warnings for passengers in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, not the board the Lusitania, because the

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<v Speaker 2>Lusitania was carrying stores and ammunition for or Germany's enemy,

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<v Speaker 2>which would beat Britain. Okay, now in the cruiser war records,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's a foul. Okay, you don't do that, which

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<v Speaker 2>made the Lusitania a prime object. Now what bothered me

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<v Speaker 2>about this, and again folks can read that book for themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>is that Lord Fisher and Churchill, we're both kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sharing the naval duties. I think the Germans sent fifty

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<v Speaker 2>advertisements to be placed in American dailies of of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of import like the New York Times. However,

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<v Speaker 2>they all got strangled except one. So Wilson killed forty

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<v Speaker 2>nine or the fifty and just said, do not doward

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<v Speaker 2>the Lusitania because it's a ship carrying stores and ammunition

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<v Speaker 2>for the enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So it becomes a vessel of war, not a

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<v Speaker 1>h you know, public ship.

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<v Speaker 2>It no longer becomes the publican dands, it becomes something

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, as a what do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>The military military ship?

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<v Speaker 2>Really right there, So forty nine of those did not

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<v Speaker 2>make it. Churchill, excuse me, strangle them all and they

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<v Speaker 2>let the people get on board. When the ship sailed,

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<v Speaker 2>as it was passing underneath Ireland, headed for for the

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<v Speaker 2>who was going to Liverpool, I'm not sure, but as

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<v Speaker 2>it was going beneath Ireland and England, the protection for

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<v Speaker 2>it was called back. There's an argument as to where

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<v Speaker 2>the Churchill did it or Fisher did it. You can

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<v Speaker 2>make your own conclusions. But the ship now was without

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of support and the Germans were laying for it. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the Germans fired one torpedo and this was fair game,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what they were trying to say, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were right, it was fair game. They shot one torpedo.

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<v Speaker 2>It was more in the aft, but there were two explosions,

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<v Speaker 2>and they said we did not shoot a second torpedo,

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<v Speaker 2>and they produced evidence of such. So the point was,

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<v Speaker 2>was it sabotage from within or did the stores the

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<v Speaker 2>munitions rather ignite because the plane was it was not

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<v Speaker 2>a I'm sorry, the ship was not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Sunk.

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<v Speaker 2>It was listing, but it was not sunk, and then

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<v Speaker 2>after that they called back any kind of rescue service.

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<v Speaker 2>So here so you hear, you got the ship now

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<v Speaker 2>not sinking, able to be rescued, and none of it happened, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the whole thing about The English were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get the US and the war. They needed

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<v Speaker 1>an excuse. Who's who was the interest of this Lusitania

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<v Speaker 1>going down was really the British Empire at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were the one who's really benefit. The Americans

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<v Speaker 1>are outraged. It's a huge public outrage, right, all these

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<v Speaker 1>civilians go down, so it plays right into the hands

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<v Speaker 1>of the warmongers, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it took a year or so, but I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that was the cry then, you know, like remember

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<v Speaker 2>the Lusitania and the Germans, you know, laid out everything

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<v Speaker 2>they could. I'm not a Nazi sympathizer, but they were

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<v Speaker 2>within their rights to do what they did, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was almost like they were challenged by the Americans to

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<v Speaker 2>see if they would do that. And of course the

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<v Speaker 2>Americans didn't care because they allowed the passengers to go

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<v Speaker 2>across on the Lusitania and obviously most of them were lost.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was a tragic treasure event that involved

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<v Speaker 2>you know, babies, and I mean as bad as you

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<v Speaker 2>can think of. It was. So that's there for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was used at I guess a rally cry

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<v Speaker 2>because really we had nothing to do with the Germans.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, our situation was like we were allies with

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<v Speaker 2>Great Britain. And I asked a friend of mine one time, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell did they ever do for us? Not much? Yeah, no, nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>They brought down the DC in eighteen twelve, so there

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<v Speaker 2>was that whole situation revenue revolutionary war, but yeah, not

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<v Speaker 2>really that much. And that was interesting that Crowley came

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<v Speaker 2>to the US to get the US into war with

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<v Speaker 2>Germany nineteen fourteen. So there all these ties into the Elysia. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Crowley was on one side of yeah, faction without doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course there were certain obviously German sympathizers all

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<v Speaker 2>over New York, right, because shipping was the way to

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<v Speaker 2>go in those days. You didn't have planes, so that

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<v Speaker 2>it was all about shipping, right, So you would hear

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<v Speaker 2>about all intrigues about what was going on in the

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<v Speaker 2>docks in New York. They even got the mafia involved,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the Second World War, right, actually ferret out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, access agents. So it's it's a wild time

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<v Speaker 2>and you know you can tell who was who by

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<v Speaker 2>their uniforms.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, No, it really was. I mean New York was

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<v Speaker 1>really something else during that time. What we you and

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about for Rek? Right, I think you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>Rek V I E. R. E. C K, who was

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<v Speaker 1>a German sympathizer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the Lusitania is

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<v Speaker 1>just one of many. So Lusitania the main which is

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<v Speaker 1>a Spanish American. So these huge events were these very

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<v Speaker 1>well known entities ships at the time right where they're

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<v Speaker 1>just like you said, very important. So these kind of

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<v Speaker 1>vessels are going down, Tonkin, it's just happens every twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years almost.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing is there's there is a false flag

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<v Speaker 2>trigger and I'm expecting another one. In fact, I put

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<v Speaker 2>much stock in the book that was written by Brizhinski

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety four called The Grand Chessboard. Now that's

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<v Speaker 2>a riff off Sir Halford Mackinder's extrapolation, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>in about nineteen oh nine about who would win. Whoever

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<v Speaker 2>would win the last war and gain the last Empire

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<v Speaker 2>would do so by obtaining the heartland which really is

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<v Speaker 2>the Ukraine and the Slavics. No, not the Slavic states,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Muslim states that are above it. The reason

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<v Speaker 2>why I bring that up is because in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>four there wasn't really anything going on. Read I read

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<v Speaker 2>the book in two thousand and two, so Brazinski writes it,

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<v Speaker 2>and nobody knows who Brazhinsky is. He was like the

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<v Speaker 2>advisor that never goes away, like Kissinger.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, his daughter is now with CBS News, Minka

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, Minka something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not dog name, like a lapdog name. Sorry, that's terrible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but Brazinski was around, but he is like a Rockefeller frontman,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was always a CFR and writing these book

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<v Speaker 1>yeah and you can talk, Yeah, And he had the

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<v Speaker 1>chessboard itself has kind of an illuminated reference to both

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<v Speaker 1>that and the technotronic era, you know, kind of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of elite absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the chessboard is a sort of Masonic redo

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<v Speaker 2>of what the Kinder was simply calling the heartland. He

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<v Speaker 2>just made it plain that the next, the last war,

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<v Speaker 2>and the last Empire would be fought actually on land.

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<v Speaker 2>And Here's where I'm going with this and this is

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<v Speaker 2>why it's kind of disturbing that we're over in Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, twenty years and when we've gotten we've

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<v Speaker 2>been okay, fine, that's great, but you see, we're the envelopers.

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<v Speaker 2>We are not land based. Our protection has always been

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<v Speaker 2>two oceans. But now we're going to go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>go across one ocean and try to continue to supply

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<v Speaker 2>a fighting force over and mostly Afghanistan and Israel or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>What we Kinder was saying was turn the globe around

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<v Speaker 2>so that we're outliers and understand that whoever fights on

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<v Speaker 2>the Eurasian continent doesn't need a navy. They can use

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<v Speaker 2>the air and they can use the ground. This is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be a problem for them. Supply wise.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the problem. So the thing is that we're

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<v Speaker 2>not looking too good. And I would call this custom's

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<v Speaker 2>last mistake, if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what you mean, Yeah, I mean it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>good the whole situation. It's a catastrophe really well.

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<v Speaker 2>And to Hark and another thing, I mean, take this

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<v Speaker 2>for what it's worth, but I mean the German Rosicrucians

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<v Speaker 2>who keep their place and I think it is Quarrytown Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>They consider themselves the rifle heirs of the German Rosicrucians,

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<v Speaker 2>who are the true Rosicrucians, as opposed to the Rosicrucians

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<v Speaker 2>that are out on your coast somewhere up. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So there the old time, they wrote a book that

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<v Speaker 2>was ghosted by a name by Crewington called the Mencius

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<v Speaker 2>Chronicles that would be man isis okay? Now, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know we talked about this at all. But the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that struck me was they created a scenario where they

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<v Speaker 2>said that the old world would finally reap vengeance on

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<v Speaker 2>the New World and basically kick its ass. Because remember something,

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<v Speaker 2>We're a rental. We've always been a rental. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>we are. That we are as strong as we are

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<v Speaker 2>is as strong as we were allowed to be, and

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<v Speaker 2>indeed we are strong. But when Germany, when Britain started

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<v Speaker 2>to lose it's gas right around the Bower War, it

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<v Speaker 2>was right at that time that Teddy Roosevelt let the

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<v Speaker 2>fleet go around the world and show everybody that we

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<v Speaker 2>kick their ass. So the thing is, we're not looked

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<v Speaker 2>on as being part of the old neighborhood, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? We're not in the state of rich people.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just these like renegades that are on the outside

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<v Speaker 2>that have to be dealt with sooner or later. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I got from the book them, and this is Chronicles.

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<v Speaker 2>And they said that we would be invaded and the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing that would stop the conflagration would be a

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<v Speaker 2>geological event like tectonic plates shifting as duch, where everybody

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<v Speaker 2>would go back home. That's what they said now. Also

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen thirteen in their sixteenth complicated book by I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember, there was a primary family there. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say it was Phelps, it was something else,

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<v Speaker 2>but anyway, they said that eventually Mexico would be brought

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<v Speaker 2>back into like the womb, and then the ascending I

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<v Speaker 2>would be placed atop the pyramid and things would be

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<v Speaker 2>right as they were in the old days. So you

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<v Speaker 2>got two things going here. You've got a projection for

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<v Speaker 2>a war that will kick America's ass and put us

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<v Speaker 2>in place. And you've got a Mexican intrusion into the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, which would bring us back to the way

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<v Speaker 2>we should be. And as they said, they would put

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<v Speaker 2>the seeing Eye could then be placed upon the pyramid, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So they've always been looking to kind of undercut the

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<v Speaker 1>American power, I guess is what one way to take that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're not part of that old system.

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<v Speaker 2>No, really, we don't belong on the block we've been

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to. I mean, look, I'm not for this, against this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean I've seen the way we've been treated,

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<v Speaker 2>and because we are able to teleshoot terribly strong, we

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<v Speaker 2>think that nobody can take us down. But the point is,

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<v Speaker 2>it isn't that. I mean, you know you've heard about

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<v Speaker 2>rig fights. Well, this is going to be a rig fight.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how in the world could we not win

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<v Speaker 2>the Korean War? How could we not win the Vietnam wars? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>it was Ford for gains commercially, and that's all there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's all it was, too And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>about right and wrong and freedom and not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just about there was money there and the

417
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<v Speaker 2>war made it accessible. And even in the Civil War,

418
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<v Speaker 2>going back to that, when you were talking to me earlier,

419
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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned the Lincoln series, I did, it was clear

420
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<v Speaker 2>that the North did not want the war to end

421
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<v Speaker 2>as quickly as it did because they were making money,

422
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:51.240
<v Speaker 2>as were Confederate officers as we're businessmen. They kept that

423
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<v Speaker 2>thing going because they were making money for both sides.

424
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<v Speaker 2>And the Vatican was wholly behind a slave nation because

425
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<v Speaker 2>remember they're the first slavers in the Westerners.

426
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<v Speaker 1>They've never cared. The Vatican has never made moves against slavery.

427
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<v Speaker 1>They've never ever, You've never heard anybody from the Vatican

428
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<v Speaker 1>be an anti slave person. That's their mentality, in my opinion.

429
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<v Speaker 2>What people don't realize is that they're two faced. Okay,

430
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<v Speaker 2>they have an ecclesiastical side to them and many of

431
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<v Speaker 2>their clergy, whom I have very much adored, But be

432
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<v Speaker 2>that as it may, they also have a political side,

433
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<v Speaker 2>a political side. It goes far far back, more than

434
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<v Speaker 2>anyone realizes. I mean, they got involved in kicking back

435
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<v Speaker 2>the Otomans in like fifteen forty two in the Battle

436
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<v Speaker 2>of Laponta. You should just google that. The Vatican frankly

437
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>told the Muslims, you know, you can do what you want,

438
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:53.839
<v Speaker 2>but don't ever impinge upon us. Well, they are a

439
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:56.559
<v Speaker 2>little too big for their bridges. They came into Eastern

440
00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Europe Bulgaria, Anny and such, and we're moving in on

441
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:05.599
<v Speaker 2>the Vatican. The Vatican was like, okay, we can't do this,

442
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:08.440
<v Speaker 2>So they had a name be Still. But they also

443
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<v Speaker 2>called up a flotilla that involve other countries. One of

444
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<v Speaker 2>the scene that happened to be Servantes if you remember

445
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<v Speaker 2>that name, right, yeah, And they kicked the most of

446
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<v Speaker 2>the Ottomans ass that put them back where they were

447
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:23.200
<v Speaker 2>until probably.

448
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:29.039
<v Speaker 1>World War one, right, So uh yeah, so you still

449
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>have that involvement. I mean, what do you so the

450
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:37.160
<v Speaker 1>old world that doesn't like the New world wants to

451
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 1>undercut it. What's gonna have? What do you think is

452
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:40.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen next?

453
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think we understand what's going on right now.

454
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 2>And I'll be honest with you, I'm fearful. I did

455
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:52.319
<v Speaker 2>the shows about what might be. This was included in it,

456
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:54.319
<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you, I was hoping i'd be

457
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:56.480
<v Speaker 2>dead before it happened, But it looks like going to

458
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 2>be around for this one. The United States is getting

459
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:06.680
<v Speaker 2>undercut by a thousand slices. The whole idea of the

460
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:12.079
<v Speaker 2>illegal immigration was planned. You could read about that in Genrespell,

461
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the Refrenchman's book, Uh oh, it was camping the Saints.

462
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:21.519
<v Speaker 2>A lot of these books that were considered science fiction

463
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.880
<v Speaker 2>were also considered futuristic, and you got to you got

464
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.640
<v Speaker 2>to figure out whether or not they knew something. I

465
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:30.640
<v Speaker 2>don't believe they pulled it out of their head or

466
00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I think, like Philip K. Dick and a lot of

467
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:35.720
<v Speaker 2>other science fiction writers, they were probably privy to stuff

468
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>and they and they did it. Like Asimov's The Winning Wing,

469
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Speaker 2>which I think we're going through right now, this this

470
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:46.200
<v Speaker 2>immigration that happened. We didn't get stupid about keeping people out.

471
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I got nothing against Mexican's or any Latinos. But the

472
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 2>point is is a front door to go through that

473
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>everybody used. All right. Ross Bell's book talked about an

474
00:28:55.960 --> 00:29:02.279
<v Speaker 2>overrunning of prosperous Western nations by worlders. I think that's

475
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:04.440
<v Speaker 2>very interesting and I paid attention to it. That was

476
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:09.720
<v Speaker 2>written in seventy five. Now, if I can digress for

477
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 2>a second about ASIMO's The Winning do we ever talk

478
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:13.039
<v Speaker 2>about that?

479
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what do you mean by the winn Wing?

480
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>All right? Asimov wrote a short story that was included

481
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<v Speaker 2>in a collection of short stories I think entitled and

482
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Hold by Centennial Man in about seventy five. Asimov wrote

483
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 2>this very short short story about scientists that were approached

484
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 2>about altering the lip bolb protein of grain, so that

485
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 2>some people who ate it would be killed, some would

486
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>be sickened and rebound, some would be Okay. Now think

487
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:58.680
<v Speaker 2>about COVID. All right, Now you've got COVID, which none

488
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>of us know how lethal REALI he is, because the

489
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:05.599
<v Speaker 2>numbers have been for the most part rigged. But the

490
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:09.119
<v Speaker 2>point is that you've got something that kills people, mostly

491
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.519
<v Speaker 2>the elderly and the weak. Some people get sickened, then

492
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:16.359
<v Speaker 2>they bounce back, and the younger don't have anything really

493
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:19.720
<v Speaker 2>happen to them. When I read the winn Wing, I

494
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:22.559
<v Speaker 2>said to myself, that's a very clever way to depopulate.

495
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:27.359
<v Speaker 2>So when COVID came around, I thought to myself, despite

496
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.559
<v Speaker 2>the fact that it's a nasty virus, it's man made,

497
00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:37.599
<v Speaker 2>and it's doing what Asimov said the libroprotein alteration was

498
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.960
<v Speaker 2>doing in his book. Do I think asimwov was for this? No?

499
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 2>Do I think that he may have gotten inside information? Yes,

500
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 2>So what I'm saying is is that COVID nineteen is

501
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:53.720
<v Speaker 2>a depopulator. It is an absolute culture changer across the

502
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:57.240
<v Speaker 2>globe and is worse than it is. It really is,

503
00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.920
<v Speaker 2>And if anybody remembers that try to pull this off

504
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.880
<v Speaker 2>with SARS back in around two thousand and I don't know,

505
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:07.240
<v Speaker 2>four or six, I can't remember, but I did a

506
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:09.680
<v Speaker 2>show on it then, and I did it off of

507
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Newsweek magazine. I mean it was so funny that it

508
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>looked like it was a band magazine. They had this

509
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:24.119
<v Speaker 2>nurse or this female on the front cover, full face shot, eyeballs,

510
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:28.440
<v Speaker 2>absolutely agape mask on, and across the top of what

511
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:33.319
<v Speaker 2>would be her headdress, it said SARS.

512
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, So they tried to all the fear they laid on,

513
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the fear of death. They tried to change stuff. I

514
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>don't remember it having that kind of effect as this.

515
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:44.559
<v Speaker 2>No, it fell on its face. But it was a

516
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:46.400
<v Speaker 2>dry run and I shouldn't have known it, and I

517
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:47.799
<v Speaker 2>did right.

518
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Fauci's been around for thirty years, so these guys have

519
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:52.799
<v Speaker 1>perfected it. And a lot of these guys are part

520
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>of the cartel. They come out of Advisor and then

521
00:31:55.799 --> 00:32:00.519
<v Speaker 1>go get on TV and sell vaccines. It's credible, like

522
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.799
<v Speaker 1>some of these people have to be tried. If there's

523
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>justice in the world, there has to be kind of

524
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>an independent court case. A bunch of a bunch of

525
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.319
<v Speaker 1>these people just shoving vaccines down the throat that don't

526
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 1>really work and aren't that effective.

527
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 2>There is enough justice in the world, so forget, they'll

528
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.519
<v Speaker 2>not be tried. Fauci also was a big scare manger

529
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.519
<v Speaker 2>in the whole HIV age thing where they are at.

530
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, act was super toxic too, They're giving it to babies,

531
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 1>and that was a whole nother fear element too. I mean,

532
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I think HIV was legit. Certain people died, but there

533
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>it was within a certain groups that really got affected

534
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>by HIV, which is you know, intravenous drug users, homosexuals

535
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and such a Sorry.

536
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>No, but they never made the connection that agent was

537
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.799
<v Speaker 2>caused by HIV, and the whole storm pulled away without

538
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:56.440
<v Speaker 2>making that conclusion of fact. But he was. But the

539
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:57.680
<v Speaker 2>point is he was there at that.

540
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he has yeared decades of experience and how

541
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to getting involved in social engineering in my opinion. Yeah.

542
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean the thing is, I remember for all that

543
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 2>I did, and I got into this just to find

544
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.839
<v Speaker 2>out the way things really were. I mean, I was

545
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:18.160
<v Speaker 2>a baby born in fifty one, and I was around

546
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 2>men who came back from World War two in Korea

547
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 2>and we're talking about a war and things done that

548
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:26.640
<v Speaker 2>I had never read about in my history books or

549
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:30.640
<v Speaker 2>heard about in my school, and that always bothered me.

550
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 2>So it took too about what another fifty years to

551
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.319
<v Speaker 2>me to say, you know what, before I go, I'd

552
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:39.519
<v Speaker 2>like to find out what the real deal is. And

553
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 2>I did, and it was more horrible than I thought

554
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:45.319
<v Speaker 2>it would be because things did not make sense to

555
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:48.240
<v Speaker 2>me then. But Americans are good people. They don't know

556
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:51.839
<v Speaker 2>what it is to be lost, you know, and they

557
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>believe in their government because oh gee, our government doesn't

558
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:59.599
<v Speaker 2>propagandize us, and it does and understand you know when

559
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:01.400
<v Speaker 2>you work to me in an email, oh you mean

560
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 2>foxes until the news to tell the truth, then move

561
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:06.240
<v Speaker 2>and tell the truth. They all just get it from

562
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 2>the left and right and keep everybody at their throats. Meanwhile,

563
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.320
<v Speaker 2>we get cut down time at the time, if the time.

564
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 2>You can't rely on presidents, you can't rely on anybody

565
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:20.119
<v Speaker 2>in federal government, and you can't rely on the media.

566
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 2>The only time the media gives you the strange stories

567
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.760
<v Speaker 2>is before they catch it. Just like what happened at

568
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:28.679
<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven. You know, the truth was sold in

569
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.119
<v Speaker 2>the next forty eight hours, and then they got old

570
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:33.800
<v Speaker 2>doctored up right what it is today?

571
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people said, hey, it looks like an explosion. Oh,

572
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.119
<v Speaker 1>this is it. There's explosions. People are making statements and

573
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>then all got covered up within Yeah, like you said,

574
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.039
<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours, all those stories that came out, you know,

575
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:46.559
<v Speaker 1>we're gone.

576
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Well. What I thought was interesting also was when it

577
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:55.280
<v Speaker 2>came to alternative media, Alex Jones and his ILK just

578
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:57.119
<v Speaker 2>focused on New York because that was the big and

579
00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:00.679
<v Speaker 2>bad thing. They didn't talk about DC, did not talk

580
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>about Shanksville. And those two are the biggest stinkers that

581
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.440
<v Speaker 2>you've ever seen. I don't know if you've ever had

582
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.559
<v Speaker 2>Craig Ranking on your show from C I T.

583
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Sure I should.

584
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Should You should because I'll tell you what. That child

585
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.360
<v Speaker 2>put his foot on the ground and talk to people,

586
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.519
<v Speaker 2>and you can see it on his website and you

587
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.159
<v Speaker 2>can find I mean, the bottom line with that is

588
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.400
<v Speaker 2>no plane hit that building whatsoever, not even that supposed

589
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 2>whatever that was, you know, a rocket or a small

590
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:35.519
<v Speaker 2>plane that was cg without a doubt. The Pentagon is

591
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:40.760
<v Speaker 2>ringed with video right as part of its protection system,

592
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>and none of it was used, and they copped the

593
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:50.480
<v Speaker 2>video from outlining the stores so that nobody could touch that.

594
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 2>That was a colossal, colossal farce, and so was Shanksville,

595
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 2>absolutely unbelievable. Do you want me to I'll share a

596
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:05.639
<v Speaker 2>story with you, please do all right. I was riding

597
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:11.320
<v Speaker 2>my bike down here in Florida and Vince Victor Thorn

598
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:16.159
<v Speaker 2>called me up. They'll leave Victor Thorn and he said, listen,

599
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:19.440
<v Speaker 2>there was a woman who read our book. And when

600
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:21.760
<v Speaker 2>he meant by that was he made a book that

601
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:25.159
<v Speaker 2>was three quarters based on our shows that we did

602
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 2>on nine to eleven because nobody was doing anything on

603
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:32.000
<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven. On the flight ninety three, and I'm like, okay, look,

604
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll get right home and we'll do a three away

605
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.400
<v Speaker 2>because he didn't have the ability to do a three interview.

606
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 2>And he told me, he goes, look, I don't know

607
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:42.440
<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen. Because as the woman was talking

608
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<v Speaker 2>to me, they were an elderly couple. He said, I

609
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.719
<v Speaker 2>could hear the husband in the background going you shouldn't

610
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:49.920
<v Speaker 2>be doing this, you shouldn't be doing this. So he

611
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<v Speaker 2>didn't know there'd be a second tape. Well, I'm stall

612
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.159
<v Speaker 2>on my way back home. I getting set up. She

613
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:58.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't answer the phone. They were. Their names were Bob

614
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.440
<v Speaker 2>and Shirley. I forget their last names. I had written

615
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.840
<v Speaker 2>it down. It's a piece of paper long got into

616
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.079
<v Speaker 2>the landfill. But what she had said was, and if

617
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<v Speaker 2>you take a look at the map of southwestern Pennsylvania,

618
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<v Speaker 2>there is Ingrund Mountain Road I M G R U

619
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<v Speaker 2>N D and you can see that there are several switchbacks,

620
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:23.760
<v Speaker 2>which means it is a steep hill. Okay, on what

621
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:27.639
<v Speaker 2>you would call the southeast side, there's a ball spot

622
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:32.280
<v Speaker 2>that's been there since that day. I don't know there's

623
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<v Speaker 2>a ball spot there. But what I am saying is

624
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:38.519
<v Speaker 2>that she said that most people know that a plane

625
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:43.519
<v Speaker 2>went down on Ingram Mountain. The two of them drove

626
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 2>up to see if they could reach it, and then

627
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:50.280
<v Speaker 2>the road was so rocky that they thought they may

628
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.039
<v Speaker 2>not be able to get out of there, so they

629
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.519
<v Speaker 2>only went a certain distance and then back down. But

630
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 2>she said you could smell the fuel, smelt the fuel

631
00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:00.480
<v Speaker 2>all night. She said there were trucks going in and

632
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:03.719
<v Speaker 2>out of that area. She assumed they were taking pieces

633
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:06.079
<v Speaker 2>of the plane away. Do I believe that there were

634
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Speaker 2>people in there? No, I believe it was a remote

635
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:13.719
<v Speaker 2>like everything else was yeah. So she said that there

636
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>was no doubt about the fact that the plane went

637
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 2>down there. She also said that the city of New Baltimore,

638
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:23.280
<v Speaker 2>which is on the southeast side of Ingram Mountain near

639
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 2>the turnpike, was yellow taped off and men in black

640
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.599
<v Speaker 2>suits were telling people to ship the hell up. Okay,

641
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:36.840
<v Speaker 2>And that also casts light on the fact that, you know,

642
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:39.119
<v Speaker 2>we heard all this stuff about Indian Lake Marina. How

643
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:42.280
<v Speaker 2>these people heard an explosion and they went outside their

644
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.360
<v Speaker 2>houses and they saw this stuff floating down. But just

645
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 2>think of this. Nobody saw the plane go down except

646
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Lee per Ball, who said he saw it go down

647
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:56.559
<v Speaker 2>in that junkyard where he worked and that was his

648
00:38:56.599 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>first day. Okay, if you take a look at that site,

649
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I always wondered, where did the ten ton engines go?

650
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Right? You know, there are almost things that always remained

651
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:12.280
<v Speaker 1>in those crashes, is an intact engine they usually don't

652
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>fall apart, or animals, right, And.

653
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 2>The same thing with the Pentagon. Craig said, Look, it

654
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:21.920
<v Speaker 2>was Craig tooked the two cops that were at the

655
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Pentagon at the same as SIKO station and they asked them,

656
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:28.400
<v Speaker 2>did you see a plane? They said yeah, and they said,

657
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.800
<v Speaker 2>we saw it on this side, being the left side

658
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:36.000
<v Speaker 2>of where they were, but that path of knockdown lampposts

659
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.119
<v Speaker 2>and stuff was on the opposite side of that. So

660
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:43.880
<v Speaker 2>what they saw was something big and made to look

661
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:48.039
<v Speaker 2>commercially like a plane, but it never impacted the Pentagon,

662
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:52.880
<v Speaker 2>and nothing impacted the Pentagon. I mean, when you take

663
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 2>a look at the first photos, you've got what a

664
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:59.119
<v Speaker 2>two car garage size door opening?

665
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Right? Yeah? Nothing? Yeah? I can you look at your monitor?

666
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Is that Craig Ranky right there? Do you know what

667
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>he looks like?

668
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:08.280
<v Speaker 2>No? I don't.

669
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I okay, well it's on YouTube, so I don't know

670
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>what that is.

671
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Craig is a straight shooter. I mean once I just

672
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:21.440
<v Speaker 2>took liberty with a fact and he called me on

673
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.639
<v Speaker 2>it and I said, yeah, you're right, you're right. I mean,

674
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Craig is fastidious. But the thing you have to remember

675
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:32.840
<v Speaker 2>about the Pentagon too, is that you supposedly have one

676
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:38.480
<v Speaker 2>of those planes going through three rings the Pentagon, and

677
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 2>then after the third ring is penetrated, there's no sign

678
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:45.599
<v Speaker 2>of a plane. So how does that happen? I mean,

679
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:48.159
<v Speaker 2>you get the softest part of the plane going in first,

680
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:51.000
<v Speaker 2>we have no size of the engines, and after three

681
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>rings are and I might add very perfectly blown, which

682
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:01.880
<v Speaker 2>would make you think that they're shaped arges. You got

683
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.960
<v Speaker 2>no remains of the plane after the third ring. So

684
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 2>what did his plane do go through three rings and disappear?

685
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:13.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just crazy. So the Pentagon and the

686
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Shanksville story. And the thing about the Shanksville story is this,

687
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:22.519
<v Speaker 2>if you used only the daily the New York Times

688
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:26.679
<v Speaker 2>on nine to twelve and nine thirteen, you'd find out

689
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>how the stories can flict and how something has got

690
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 2>to be wrong. Eleven people saw whatever that was Flight

691
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:39.840
<v Speaker 2>ninety three descend slowly, and then one party said, I

692
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:43.360
<v Speaker 2>saw a goose up over a mountain ridge, like it

693
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:45.280
<v Speaker 2>had to be pulled up because otherwise it would have

694
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.719
<v Speaker 2>hit the ridge. All right. None of them saw anything

695
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:54.719
<v Speaker 2>unusual about the cabin or cockpit. Edward felt who was

696
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:56.559
<v Speaker 2>the guy that was in the bathroom saying there was

697
00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:00.000
<v Speaker 2>a bomb exploded. Well, guess why there was a bomb explode,

698
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:03.639
<v Speaker 2>That there'd be something streaming from the planet. The people

699
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:09.480
<v Speaker 2>on the ground saw nothing streaming. Okay. And by the way,

700
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.519
<v Speaker 2>if you're in a bathroom in a plane, you're like

701
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 2>in a Faraday cage. Inside of Faraday cage, the chances

702
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:21.280
<v Speaker 2>of him having any connection is false. So, in other words,

703
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:25.519
<v Speaker 2>eleven people watch the plane descend, two of them saw

704
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 2>it go over the mountain, but none of them saw

705
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:29.920
<v Speaker 2>it crash. It did crash, but they didn't see it,

706
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.639
<v Speaker 2>and they saw nothing streaming from it. And you can

707
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:37.119
<v Speaker 2>read that yourself in the New York Times. So felt

708
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:43.559
<v Speaker 2>story was bogus. Also, Elizabeth Hirsch, Elizabeth what was the

709
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:44.199
<v Speaker 2>last name of her?

710
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:46.639
<v Speaker 1>I can't I don't recollect, I don't know, all right.

711
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:48.360
<v Speaker 2>But the thing is she was talking to her husband,

712
00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:52.159
<v Speaker 2>supposedly as he was telling her what was going on.

713
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:56.360
<v Speaker 2>But that's not possible either because and then, well, here's

714
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:58.159
<v Speaker 2>what happens. You said it was on a cell phone.

715
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:00.360
<v Speaker 2>If you read the nine to twelve New York Times,

716
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:03.239
<v Speaker 2>it was a cell phone. Jeremy Glick, I'm sorry, Jeremy,

717
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy click.

718
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.239
<v Speaker 1>That's right. And those cell phones didn't work from planes

719
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:07.800
<v Speaker 1>at that time too.

720
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:11.159
<v Speaker 2>That's right, because the technology was pointed downwards, not upwards.

721
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:13.760
<v Speaker 2>And the second thing is they're going through his own

722
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:17.159
<v Speaker 2>so fast he can't hold on to a to a

723
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:20.559
<v Speaker 2>connection at all. I was ever able to keep a

724
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.159
<v Speaker 2>connection going with a cell phone was when we were

725
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.639
<v Speaker 2>landing and we were below the towers. So anyway, she's

726
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:29.679
<v Speaker 2>talking about how this is going on and how she

727
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 2>gets the police in on it, like what are they

728
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:35.960
<v Speaker 2>going to do in West Milford, New Jersey. However, in

729
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:39.880
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and four and Rita's Digests with Oprah on

730
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:44.840
<v Speaker 2>the cover, Elizabeth is revisited to talk about that day

731
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:50.840
<v Speaker 2>and parenthetically, and I'm saying this deliberately because it didn't

732
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:57.119
<v Speaker 2>sound like it was her vocabulary. It seemed like it

733
00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.639
<v Speaker 2>was implanted in and she was, Oh, and no, it

734
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.840
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a cell phone. It was his seatback phone, right,

735
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:03.719
<v Speaker 2>all right?

736
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't all of those so called calls fake or had

737
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:12.679
<v Speaker 1>that element of staging to them? For even what was

738
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:14.360
<v Speaker 1>the other one that I think it was? What was

739
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 1>the one? I think it was ninety three, and I

740
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:19.159
<v Speaker 1>think it was just ninety three, right, those are the

741
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>ones that all had kind of fake things. If I remember,

742
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:23.280
<v Speaker 1>it's been a while.

743
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:27.079
<v Speaker 2>No, it has been a while. And yeah, I mean

744
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:31.320
<v Speaker 2>we supposedly had a phone call from oh, I don't know,

745
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:35.880
<v Speaker 2>a woman that was a personality on CNN or something

746
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:36.159
<v Speaker 2>like that.

747
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>She was in the back of it, right, I remember her.

748
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:40.239
<v Speaker 1>She's the one who hit the Pentagon, right.

749
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But the thing is is like that phone, that

750
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:46.079
<v Speaker 2>phone doesn't stretch that far. I mean, of course did

751
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 2>not go that far. So I mean as much as

752
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:51.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't wait, she was like ted somebody's wife who.

753
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, she was that lawyer's wife, if I remember.

754
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:58.639
<v Speaker 2>So, the thing is is that it is full of holes.

755
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.960
<v Speaker 2>And when I'm contesting without going on anymore than I could,

756
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:07.360
<v Speaker 2>even with Jamie McIntyre and his his first first two

757
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I guess reportages of what he saw. I mean, they

758
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.199
<v Speaker 2>stay away from them because it's got the biggest amount

759
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:20.800
<v Speaker 2>of holes that you could find. That's why everybody stays

760
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:21.679
<v Speaker 2>on the towers.

761
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Right. No, it's a good point. Yeah, very good point.

762
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Now do you want to if you want to do

763
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:29.719
<v Speaker 2>the towers, I'll tell you what I yes, okay, Yes.

764
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 2>There is a guy by the name of James Kosher

765
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:38.159
<v Speaker 2>k Oi s O R. He was living in an

766
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:43.360
<v Speaker 2>apartment building in Jersey City, directly across from the towers.

767
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:50.320
<v Speaker 2>He was really rehabilitating from an operation, so it was

768
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:54.519
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful day. He goes downstairs to his friends and

769
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:58.480
<v Speaker 2>they're all yuck ended up and stuff. And one of

770
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:01.719
<v Speaker 2>them leaves to go to work and calls back to

771
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:03.719
<v Speaker 2>the house and says, do you see what's going on

772
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 2>across the street? And they weren't. They weren't looking, I

773
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.760
<v Speaker 2>mean think, I mean, think what you may. Here's the

774
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:14.639
<v Speaker 2>towers on fire, and they're not. They're not watching, I

775
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:16.559
<v Speaker 2>mean because it's there all the time, you know what

776
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, don't even watch. And they take a look

777
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 2>across and they see one of the towers in flames. Well,

778
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Kosher goes ballistic because his wife is working at the

779
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Empire State Building. They turn the radio on. Nobody knows

780
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:30.599
<v Speaker 2>what's going on, and he's begging his wife to get

781
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:32.960
<v Speaker 2>across the huts and as fast as she can because

782
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.599
<v Speaker 2>he expected that the Empire Tower the State Building to

783
00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:39.960
<v Speaker 2>be hit and he had reason to believe that. So

784
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:42.719
<v Speaker 2>here's where I'm going. He sent me the raw video

785
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 2>on a VHS of what happened that day. He later

786
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:51.880
<v Speaker 2>on produced a DVD that was distill down. So I

787
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:55.719
<v Speaker 2>saw the first and I saw the second, but he

788
00:46:55.800 --> 00:47:00.679
<v Speaker 2>catches on the video before you can see it. You

789
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.519
<v Speaker 2>can hear something coming up from the south of the

790
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Hudson and that would be the last plane that impacted

791
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I guess that would be why.

792
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.239
<v Speaker 1>The South one seventive at the south Tarrea.

793
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, so you can hear it before you see it.

794
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Now you can say it. You can say there were holograms.

795
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:21.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. All I know is at sound, it

796
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.079
<v Speaker 2>had mass and it put a hole in that building.

797
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:28.199
<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately, during that whole video you can see people

798
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:32.519
<v Speaker 2>jumping out. There were other explosions that took place throughout

799
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 2>the building all while this was going on. He came

800
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.679
<v Speaker 2>to me, it was ten years after that he had

801
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:43.440
<v Speaker 2>shot the video, and he said, listen, can you help

802
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:45.559
<v Speaker 2>me get this thing marketed? Now. I didn't make any

803
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:47.199
<v Speaker 2>money on I didn't care. I had him on, that's

804
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 2>all I did. And I just saw what he had.

805
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.159
<v Speaker 2>I had no problem with it. When I saw people

806
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.639
<v Speaker 2>take pieces of it from the Facebook, they ridiculed it.

807
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.920
<v Speaker 2>But it was absolutely bullshit that they were talking about.

808
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:01.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was it was obviously they were killing it.

809
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. Again, it was holograms and n but

810
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:10.400
<v Speaker 2>it was a plane. And what he said was what

811
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:13.559
<v Speaker 2>was interesting. And I think you might remember comments made

812
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:16.480
<v Speaker 2>in all the videos that are on YouTube that the

813
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:18.800
<v Speaker 2>plane didn't look like a commercial.

814
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:20.679
<v Speaker 1>Plane, right, Yes, I heard that, all right.

815
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 2>And he said this, and he said he was was

816
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:25.800
<v Speaker 2>exaggerating because he just couldn't come up with something better.

817
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:28.599
<v Speaker 2>He said, that looks like assessma, that's what he says

818
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:30.920
<v Speaker 2>on the tape, but it can't be assessed. And we

819
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:34.880
<v Speaker 2>realize it. But it wasn't the size of a commercial airplane.

820
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:39.519
<v Speaker 2>And you've heard probably that declaration from a worker of

821
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, from one of the airlines who was

822
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:46.480
<v Speaker 2>in the street in New York that day saying it,

823
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't look like a you know, a seven

824
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 2>fifty seven, right.

825
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:53.760
<v Speaker 1>It didn't have the markings too, if I remember, it

826
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:56.480
<v Speaker 1>was mostly silver, so it didn't have the look of

827
00:48:57.239 --> 00:48:59.159
<v Speaker 1>a commercial plane with the you know, all of the

828
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 1>painting and stuff like that.

829
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Well that's what always struck me too, because I mean,

830
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.800
<v Speaker 2>the second plane impacting it was just like, I don't know,

831
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.119
<v Speaker 2>would you call it like some kind of marine grain

832
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:11.360
<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

833
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Kind of yeah, like an off silver m.

834
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it didn't look like it. But the thing wasn't

835
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:19.440
<v Speaker 2>the size either. So there again you have something going

836
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:22.599
<v Speaker 2>on there. And and here's where I'm going with all

837
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:29.519
<v Speaker 2>of this. Here's what happened. Groups formed groups, and they

838
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:33.320
<v Speaker 2>got into well, was there a plane? Wasn't there a plane?

839
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:36.840
<v Speaker 2>I loved Dave from Blint nine to eleven, but I'll

840
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:39.880
<v Speaker 2>tell you what, he's killed more interviews than a lone ranger,

841
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:40.800
<v Speaker 2>honest to God.

842
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:43.159
<v Speaker 1>And it went on for years too, like and that

843
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:46.000
<v Speaker 1>was the core. If you didn't believe this, then it

844
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:48.519
<v Speaker 1>was actually very illogical. But if you didn't believe this,

845
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:52.440
<v Speaker 1>everything else you said was nullified or right gone, right

846
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:54.679
<v Speaker 1>now structure, which is nonsense.

847
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:56.960
<v Speaker 2>And I asked people, and I did this with the

848
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Utikins nine eleven truth, and they they didn't. They just

849
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:05.760
<v Speaker 2>laid it out for people as to what happened. They

850
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.239
<v Speaker 2>didn't get into whether they were planes and no planes.

851
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:10.079
<v Speaker 2>If you want to lose an audience fast who might

852
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:11.960
<v Speaker 2>be wanting to listen it to you because they think

853
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:14.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe you're telling the truth, you tell them that there's

854
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:16.320
<v Speaker 2>no planes there, they're gone.

855
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, I can just to interrupt Keith, there was a

856
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:23.039
<v Speaker 1>woman on the ground at the second plane who was

857
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:26.880
<v Speaker 1>literally walking down the street minding her own business. And

858
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:29.039
<v Speaker 1>a piece this is a factual story. You can go

859
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:31.599
<v Speaker 1>find it. A piece of the landing gear flew out

860
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:34.880
<v Speaker 1>of the building of one seventy five and hit her

861
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and she became paralyzed. She had to go to the

862
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what the final outcome was, but she

863
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:42.920
<v Speaker 1>got hit really hard with a piece of the wreckage

864
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:45.159
<v Speaker 1>and you can go look that up. So if that

865
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:50.519
<v Speaker 1>actually happened, that means that either something real hit the

866
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:56.519
<v Speaker 1>tower or those floors had been set up with a

867
00:50:56.599 --> 00:51:00.000
<v Speaker 1>fake thing that nobody saw and shot out through an explosion,

868
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.440
<v Speaker 1>A piece of a landing here from some type of plane, right,

869
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>which is exact part is not believable.

870
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:11.039
<v Speaker 2>And what happened was it was like Uncle Remus and

871
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:16.199
<v Speaker 2>the tar patch. You know, people come buy and they

872
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:20.000
<v Speaker 2>get caught in this discussion and they never emerge from it,

873
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.719
<v Speaker 2>and the results of it most likely is, oh, it's

874
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:28.079
<v Speaker 2>all bullshit, and it's not because the United States has

875
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 2>a history of allowing this to happen, and they did

876
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.559
<v Speaker 2>allow it to happen on that day. Now, I'll tell

877
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:35.920
<v Speaker 2>you another story. A guy from Tom Scott Walker who

878
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:39.960
<v Speaker 2>was on twice. He's out there somewhere. I caught him

879
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:42.880
<v Speaker 2>just before he was moving out of Louisiana. But Tom

880
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Scott Walker was an architectural photographer who was living up

881
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:50.800
<v Speaker 2>in Woodstock, New York, a place I know very well

882
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:54.119
<v Speaker 2>to work in the city, and he thinks he got

883
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:58.920
<v Speaker 2>invited to a seminar, if you will, by the Rockefellers.

884
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.800
<v Speaker 2>And the gist of this whole thing was the Rockefellers

885
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:06.079
<v Speaker 2>were pissed off because they were being told by the

886
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:09.760
<v Speaker 2>EPA that after years of the towers being up and

887
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:13.920
<v Speaker 2>buffeted twenty four to seven seriously by trade winds that

888
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 2>come up from the coast, that the building was being

889
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:24.840
<v Speaker 2>corrupted so that the fulkrim or the friction point would

890
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:27.599
<v Speaker 2>be around the tenth or twelve four. But the point

891
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.000
<v Speaker 2>was is that they were going to go down sooner

892
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:32.519
<v Speaker 2>or later, and rocket.

893
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:34.239
<v Speaker 1>They were full, they had to be refitted because they

894
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:37.320
<v Speaker 1>were full of asbestos too, is my understanding, all right,

895
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.119
<v Speaker 1>which would have been a massive cost. Right.

896
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:42.280
<v Speaker 2>So so Rockefeller was like, no, we're not doing this.

897
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:44.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not paying for it to be deconstructed.

898
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:47.280
<v Speaker 2>So just keep that in mind. The other thing I

899
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:51.280
<v Speaker 2>would say to you was this delay in explosives or

900
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:53.920
<v Speaker 2>to do any kind of work on the towers was

901
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:58.360
<v Speaker 2>no worse than it was than nineteen sixty two when

902
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:01.760
<v Speaker 2>I think it was the threat of Hurricane Camille. I

903
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:05.039
<v Speaker 2>think it was Camille in sixty two. The thing was,

904
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:07.239
<v Speaker 2>they knew that a lot of the tall buildings there

905
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:10.599
<v Speaker 2>would be at risk. So what they did was they

906
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:12.880
<v Speaker 2>sent workmen into the core. Now, once you're in the

907
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:15.320
<v Speaker 2>court you're not seeing you know what I mean, It's

908
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:21.039
<v Speaker 2>like a sleeve inside the building. And they they went

909
00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:25.559
<v Speaker 2>into that building whatever was there at the time, I

910
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:29.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know, the Empire, State Building, the City Courts building perhaps,

911
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:34.239
<v Speaker 2>but they went in and shored up the internals of

912
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:38.440
<v Speaker 2>these buildings in anticipation of Camille, you know, kick an

913
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:42.800
<v Speaker 2>ass up there. Nobody knew they were there. My point is,

914
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:46.760
<v Speaker 2>and by the way, Camille did not pose the threat

915
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:49.079
<v Speaker 2>they thought it would, but the buildings was still short

916
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:52.280
<v Speaker 2>up and nobody knew about it. My point is, with

917
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:54.840
<v Speaker 2>the towers, you could have people. All you got to

918
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:58.800
<v Speaker 2>have is just the uniform and the tag and you

919
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:01.599
<v Speaker 2>get in and you're inside there. You can do whatever

920
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:02.000
<v Speaker 2>you want.

921
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, didn't they say that there were people reported there

922
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:07.639
<v Speaker 1>were people around the towers before nine to eleven, that

923
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 1>there were weird things retrofitting or people back and so

924
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:13.119
<v Speaker 1>some people had stated that if I remember correctly, and

925
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I think there were pictures from before nine to eleven

926
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:19.199
<v Speaker 1>sometime in that two thousand and one area of workmen

927
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 1>taking pictures through there, so some of that became public.

928
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:25.840
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean it's a huge it's a huge, massive,

929
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, set of buildings. So it's not like a

930
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:32.960
<v Speaker 1>small seven foot story building seven foot tall, you know,

931
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:35.039
<v Speaker 1>seven story building. There's just tons of people there there,

932
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and then we can get the building seven, which doesn't

933
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:38.079
<v Speaker 1>fit into the narrative too.

934
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:43.760
<v Speaker 2>But once you get inside the core, you're not seen. Right,

935
00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:46.719
<v Speaker 2>that's workman area only, So it's not a big deal.

936
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:48.880
<v Speaker 2>And we're not talking about laying in bombs. We were

937
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:51.760
<v Speaker 2>talking about whatever they're using at the time, Plasco whatever.

938
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:54.760
<v Speaker 2>So it isn't like it's a you know, there's any

939
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:57.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of logistical problem whatsoever. That could have been in

940
00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:00.840
<v Speaker 2>there for a month or two more wouldn't met anything.

941
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:04.599
<v Speaker 2>They just they just disappear. And I mean we're talking

942
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:09.559
<v Speaker 2>about two towers when about what five went down? Right, Yeah,

943
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:11.519
<v Speaker 2>there's more than those two. They always just say the

944
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:13.760
<v Speaker 2>twin towers, but there's a lot more going on. That

945
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:16.599
<v Speaker 2>whole complex was blown up. I think six had a

946
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.239
<v Speaker 2>huge hole in it. There's all kinds of things going

947
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:19.559
<v Speaker 2>on there.

948
00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:22.119
<v Speaker 1>People. There's I think one of those early the Nowday

949
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Brothers videos. After they filmed eleven plane eleven hitting the buildings,

950
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:32.800
<v Speaker 1>they did some other filming underneath the towers, and I'm

951
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:36.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure that there were multiple explosions heard if I

952
00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:38.239
<v Speaker 1>remember correctly, I have to go back and listen to that.

953
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Well they were, I mean you can even see them

954
00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:41.760
<v Speaker 2>to this day. I mean I saved a lot in

955
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:43.800
<v Speaker 2>his video, which now is on a computer that it'll

956
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:47.360
<v Speaker 2>longer exists, so they're gone. But I mean you had

957
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Woollie Morelli, I believe, who was a workman. There was

958
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:52.719
<v Speaker 2>a real New York guy, and he was talking about

959
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:56.119
<v Speaker 2>being seven floors down in the shanty where they would

960
00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:58.480
<v Speaker 2>dress for the work that day, and he says he

961
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:00.920
<v Speaker 2>was blown from one side of the building to the other,

962
00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:04.360
<v Speaker 2>and they thought that something had fallen off some kind

963
00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:08.280
<v Speaker 2>of dock down there. I mean, we would be absolutely

964
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:11.679
<v Speaker 2>amazed by what kind of activity goes on below ground

965
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.159
<v Speaker 2>in these towers. I mean, it's like a city unto itself.

966
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:14.519
<v Speaker 1>True.

967
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:17.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I've been in some of them and it's uncomfortable,

968
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:22.119
<v Speaker 2>but it's it's amazing. But the thing is Morelli said, yeah,

969
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:23.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, he got blown from one side of the

970
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:27.519
<v Speaker 2>shanty to the other, and they heard that a plane

971
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:32.079
<v Speaker 2>hit up top. Well I can understand him saying, okay,

972
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:35.400
<v Speaker 2>let me put two and two together. But the point

973
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:38.039
<v Speaker 2>is that whatever happened on the you know, one hundred

974
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:42.400
<v Speaker 2>and fortieth floor or sodianth floor would not knock him

975
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:47.519
<v Speaker 2>loopy seventh floors down. What that was about was blowing

976
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:49.840
<v Speaker 2>the towers off their moorings so they would not be

977
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:53.199
<v Speaker 2>connected to the ground any longer. But he didn't know.

978
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:55.400
<v Speaker 2>But you can still listen to him and what he

979
00:56:55.519 --> 00:57:01.960
<v Speaker 2>had to say. So I mean again, story about planes

980
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:03.719
<v Speaker 2>knocking down to towers is.

981
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Bogus, totally bogus, absolutely bogus. And they think there were

982
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:11.679
<v Speaker 1>firemen who like the towers were going down, and they

983
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:14.400
<v Speaker 1>were running down the stairs and they got to like

984
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the fourth or second floor, and the towers literally they

985
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:23.119
<v Speaker 1>looked up and they weren't there, so they didn't collapse

986
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:25.960
<v Speaker 1>upon them, but like they should have with this force

987
00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:29.639
<v Speaker 1>of like pancaking. But they literally got to like the

988
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:31.960
<v Speaker 1>second or third floor and looked up through the stairwell

989
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.119
<v Speaker 1>and there was no building like so something very strange happened.

990
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that was a latter company seven. If

991
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:41.760
<v Speaker 2>I remember when the guy goes and all this bullshit

992
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:45.519
<v Speaker 2>was boom boom, boom, you know that stuff. Yeah, something

993
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:47.960
<v Speaker 2>was going on. And when they showed some of the

994
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:52.159
<v Speaker 2>street scenes from the tower, you know, flat on the

995
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:56.719
<v Speaker 2>on the on the avenue, they did include the sound

996
00:57:56.840 --> 00:58:00.679
<v Speaker 2>because because the sound gave away that it was a

997
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:03.960
<v Speaker 2>precursor to the collapse. In other words, all you see

998
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:06.840
<v Speaker 2>is the collapse. You don't hear the booms. And that's

999
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:08.920
<v Speaker 2>what that's what the fireman was talking about.

1000
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:14.400
<v Speaker 1>And I mean I had on what was his name, William?

1001
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:19.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh you remember that one, William? I don't know which one.

1002
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I listened to a lot of your a lot of

1003
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:25.440
<v Speaker 1>your shows, but I can't remember the individual ones. But

1004
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:27.679
<v Speaker 1>I remember listening to a lot of nine to eleven stuff.

1005
00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:30.119
<v Speaker 1>The icons for nine to eleven truth, I remember very

1006
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:31.480
<v Speaker 1>well listening to them.

1007
00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the guy came on, who Here's what happened. This

1008
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:43.840
<v Speaker 2>guy comes on Alex Jones, but Alex steps on him

1009
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:46.800
<v Speaker 2>so much. I can't hear this guy answer questions in

1010
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:50.079
<v Speaker 2>the full and as I'm sitting there and I don't

1011
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:51.599
<v Speaker 2>mean to bang on Alex. I mean I think he

1012
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:53.360
<v Speaker 2>sucks and I think he's part of the problem.

1013
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I agree with that. I mean, also, his

1014
00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:58.920
<v Speaker 1>interview style is terrible. He talks over his guests constantly

1015
00:58:59.039 --> 00:58:59.559
<v Speaker 1>all the time.

1016
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember the name hunt William William? Okay, well,

1017
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:08.599
<v Speaker 2>the mine's a terrible thing to lose.

1018
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:12.519
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so there's a William on your formerly on

1019
00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:15.719
<v Speaker 1>your show. He was on. I'm like, I got to

1020
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:16.480
<v Speaker 1>talk to this guy.

1021
00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can't listen to this. This is, like,

1022
00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:24.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, just a bad interview. And I called him

1023
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:26.800
<v Speaker 2>up and I had him on and he was on

1024
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:29.800
<v Speaker 2>like two three times, and he was talking about what

1025
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:31.639
<v Speaker 2>was going on there. He's out of he was out

1026
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:34.639
<v Speaker 2>of Pennsylvania. He was called out the second day and

1027
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:39.000
<v Speaker 2>they amassed at Caden Point or somewhere near Staten Island

1028
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Liberty Island to be brought in when they finally a

1029
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:45.800
<v Speaker 2>clear way enough crap to let other E m T

1030
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:48.920
<v Speaker 2>units come in. And it was he that said, you know,

1031
00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I looked at I looked at firemen they were talking

1032
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:56.920
<v Speaker 2>to men in suits, and turned absolutely white. He said,

1033
00:59:57.079 --> 00:59:58.920
<v Speaker 2>So they were and here's where I want to go

1034
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:02.400
<v Speaker 2>with this. Also with that story about Bob and Shirley

1035
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:07.559
<v Speaker 2>and New Baltimore be in the city southeast of of

1036
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:12.599
<v Speaker 2>the cress site and right near the Pennsylvania Turnpike. They

1037
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:14.920
<v Speaker 2>said that that people were being talked to and just

1038
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:19.119
<v Speaker 2>told basically shut up. So I mean, don't don't think

1039
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:22.840
<v Speaker 2>that the suits weren't there and enforcing, you know, to

1040
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:26.719
<v Speaker 2>ed it. And that's why, you know, poor old Bob

1041
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:29.760
<v Speaker 2>probably didn't last Shirly to come on the second time.

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01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry because I never got a chance to talk

1043
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Speaker 2>to her or record that. And I mean that, you

1044
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:37.079
<v Speaker 2>know again that sounds like bullshit, like you know, it

1045
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:41.159
<v Speaker 2>never happened, but it did. I mean for Victor to

1046
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:43.119
<v Speaker 2>call me up and say, listen, where are you? Can

1047
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:44.559
<v Speaker 2>you help me out? And I'm like, yeah, all right,

1048
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I can just stopped my bike and rode back home

1049
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:50.119
<v Speaker 2>and we couldn't get it done and she wouldn't talk again.

1050
01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:54.360
<v Speaker 2>He did definitely write a story on it with pseudonyms.

1051
01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:57.360
<v Speaker 2>But the point of the matter is is that people

1052
01:00:57.519 --> 01:01:02.840
<v Speaker 2>know that nothing dumped, nothing dumped at the nine to

1053
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:05.159
<v Speaker 2>eleven Shanksville site. Nothing.

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01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:08.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's incredible. It wasn't Victor Thorne up There? Wasn't

1055
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:10.079
<v Speaker 1>he in Pennsylvania in that area?

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01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, he, Victor and Lisa lived in a near state

1057
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:19.000
<v Speaker 2>college was pretty much dead center of Pennsylvania. But they

1058
01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:22.280
<v Speaker 2>were able to, you know, pretty much take off in

1059
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:25.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, in a minute, and they went down there.

1060
01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I looked on Google and and I looked at it.

1061
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:33.159
<v Speaker 2>If you look at inground Mountain Road and you do

1062
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:35.280
<v Speaker 2>follow it to its apex, and of course you look

1063
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:37.440
<v Speaker 2>at two D. So it's it's you got to not

1064
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:40.199
<v Speaker 2>use your imagination, but you got to make some exceptions.

1065
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:43.440
<v Speaker 2>And you can see that there is a scar on

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01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:47.320
<v Speaker 2>the southeast side of what would be the peak. It's

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01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:49.840
<v Speaker 2>still there. It was there in two thousand and one.

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01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:53.280
<v Speaker 2>It's still there to this day. Whether it was a burn,

1069
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:57.960
<v Speaker 2>which I would assume it was, or whatever, it still exists.

1070
01:01:58.159 --> 01:01:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Nothing else does.

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01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's crazy. Victor Thorne died, decided to kill

1072
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:06.400
<v Speaker 1>himself right during Hillary Clinton's campaign for the presidency.

1073
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Right. I don't know when he did it. I only

1074
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:12.079
<v Speaker 2>know that he did do it. And I'll only say this.

1075
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:14.400
<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed working with Vic there.

1076
01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:15.199
<v Speaker 1>He was thorough.

1077
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I did not know him to be.

1078
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:20.119
<v Speaker 1>At all.

1079
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Playing fast and loose with the truth. But I also

1080
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:27.559
<v Speaker 2>know he had some monsters.

1081
01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:32.000
<v Speaker 1>He did it not his real name either, I mean, yeah,

1082
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:34.159
<v Speaker 1>so that's a loss. He wrote a ton of books.

1083
01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:35.679
<v Speaker 1>I know that he was doing a lot of trying

1084
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to do, you know, honest research.

1085
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:40.320
<v Speaker 2>So yes he did. In fact, I'll tell you what,

1086
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:43.039
<v Speaker 2>when you talk about the old days of this whole

1087
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:46.119
<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven stuff, I only came into it in

1088
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:49.400
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and two. Harry and I started our show

1089
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:52.159
<v Speaker 2>in March of two thousand and two. I started to

1090
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:55.039
<v Speaker 2>get interested in the fall of two thousand and one,

1091
01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:59.159
<v Speaker 2>even before nine to eleven, but not really to a

1092
01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:02.320
<v Speaker 2>point where I wanted to do anything about it. As

1093
01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I said, I was visiting friends on September eleventh in

1094
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:12.480
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one, and I just I just looked

1095
01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:16.079
<v Speaker 2>at the collapse, you know, at my mother's friend's house,

1096
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:18.559
<v Speaker 2>and I said, it looks like in controlled demo.

1097
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's it, you know.

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01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:24.599
<v Speaker 2>And I went home and the next day, yeah, it

1099
01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:26.840
<v Speaker 2>was the next day. It was a Sunday. The New

1100
01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:29.320
<v Speaker 2>York Times comes out with all these schematics and these

1101
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:32.159
<v Speaker 2>great stories, and I'm like, how in the world can

1102
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:35.480
<v Speaker 2>you know what the hell happened? When the National Transportation

1103
01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Safety Board takes about three weeks to see boom, you

1104
01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:41.400
<v Speaker 2>know what, I mean, they had an all set up,

1105
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:43.079
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, that's not right. And I got a

1106
01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:46.159
<v Speaker 2>friend that was flying for Continental, you know, and I mean,

1107
01:03:46.239 --> 01:03:48.920
<v Speaker 2>he's my best friend. If I did not know him

1108
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:52.760
<v Speaker 2>all my life, he might not have been tolerant of me.

1109
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:55.239
<v Speaker 2>But he had to admit it was a little strange.

1110
01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:58.159
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't do anything with it. In fact, this

1111
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I flew out out on the very first flight that

1112
01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:05.840
<v Speaker 2>was released from Tampa, from Newark to Tampa, and they

1113
01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:10.400
<v Speaker 2>were like, I'll tell you what. There were cops all

1114
01:04:10.519 --> 01:04:13.159
<v Speaker 2>over the place with German shepherds and everything. I mean,

1115
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:16.199
<v Speaker 2>it was like being in like East Germany nineteen fifty one.

1116
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:19.559
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, I look at a friend of mine,

1117
01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm going I'm going to suppose it's probably the safest

1118
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:22.920
<v Speaker 2>day to fly the whole year.

1119
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Probably, yeah, probably after that. I remember flying in October

1120
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:29.360
<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and one. It was very safe. Well

1121
01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:33.039
<v Speaker 1>we landed. Everybody clap so that was you know something else.

1122
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just incredible. You did so much work working.

1123
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you know where people can find your old nine

1124
01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:41.840
<v Speaker 1>to eleven shows, because I think the Olympic files or

1125
01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:43.639
<v Speaker 1>something that is still collected online.

1126
01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Right. I never put up one of them. Other people did.

1127
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:50.559
<v Speaker 2>I didn't stop them. They didn't answer for permission. They

1128
01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:52.719
<v Speaker 2>don't have to because I was out in public domain.

1129
01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:56.239
<v Speaker 2>So I wasn't going to get like that. Whatever's out

1130
01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:58.960
<v Speaker 2>there is out there. That's all I know. I mean,

1131
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:01.559
<v Speaker 2>even to this day. And I will tell you, like yesterday,

1132
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I got a file sent to me that I did

1133
01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:08.679
<v Speaker 2>with Dave McGowan in backup Programmed to Kill, and I

1134
01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:15.199
<v Speaker 2>had I had no idea. I I gave my archives

1135
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:22.480
<v Speaker 2>to my former webmaster who succeeded Angie, who was absolutely outstanding.

1136
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:27.639
<v Speaker 2>So and I've lost contact, so I don't. I never

1137
01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:28.639
<v Speaker 2>know what's out there.

1138
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:31.519
<v Speaker 1>You had, Thinker b Eaton, you had a lot. Your

1139
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:34.880
<v Speaker 1>domain is still available right now. But I remember all

1140
01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:36.800
<v Speaker 1>that stuff, you know, because I was I was definitely

1141
01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:37.239
<v Speaker 1>a listener.

1142
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, apparently hit one of these. Apparently I got like

1143
01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:47.480
<v Speaker 2>four hundred and seventy some up on radio for all

1144
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:48.760
<v Speaker 2>that's right.

1145
01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's there.

1146
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know that they're active though, No, I

1147
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:57.920
<v Speaker 2>mean I was fortunate, you know, I got lost for

1148
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:00.639
<v Speaker 2>a point there where I did some of cult shows

1149
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:02.519
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, which I just felt I had

1150
01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:05.440
<v Speaker 2>to do just because you know, it was it was

1151
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:09.400
<v Speaker 2>a buffet, and I realized my heart wasn't it and

1152
01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I really didn't like these people. And what it came

1153
01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:16.800
<v Speaker 2>down to was when I went back to the podcast,

1154
01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:19.280
<v Speaker 2>I got serious about this, and I mean, I know

1155
01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:22.559
<v Speaker 2>we're running out of time, but I mean, why do

1156
01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:24.360
<v Speaker 2>you like to hear this or not? William? I mean

1157
01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:29.519
<v Speaker 2>not you, but you know your listeners. It made me

1158
01:06:29.639 --> 01:06:33.119
<v Speaker 2>understand the Bible was true and that we are headed

1159
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.480
<v Speaker 2>for a very rocky time. We are now into it.

1160
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:38.679
<v Speaker 2>I thought it would have been militarily instigated, but they

1161
01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:41.960
<v Speaker 2>used COVID to do it. They've got people scared and running.

1162
01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:45.039
<v Speaker 2>They've got them in clotches like you see in Twilight

1163
01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Zone where they hate the people who have the light,

1164
01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:51.239
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And I realize now that

1165
01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:55.400
<v Speaker 2>this is the time being a chicken at heart that

1166
01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:58.280
<v Speaker 2>I would have liked to have missed. But apparently I'm

1167
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:01.639
<v Speaker 2>not gonna unless my ticker gives out sooner than I expect,

1168
01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:05.280
<v Speaker 2>which I'll be completely fine with. But I mean, they're

1169
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:12.079
<v Speaker 2>at the door. Now we have been promised by depopulationists

1170
01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:17.519
<v Speaker 2>and Satan's minions about bringing to the people a new feudalism.

1171
01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:23.360
<v Speaker 2>You can read the Who's the play, right, oh, man,

1172
01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:30.119
<v Speaker 2>George George Bernard Shaw. Yes, if you remember that unbelievable,

1173
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:34.920
<v Speaker 2>unbelievable quote about you will be fed and you will

1174
01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:37.559
<v Speaker 2>be clothed, and if you cannot live in that, you

1175
01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:39.480
<v Speaker 2>know you'll be killed in a kindly manner.

1176
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Right. No, here's a total eugenicist. Yeah.

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01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, I'll tell you what. If people are gonna

1178
01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:47.719
<v Speaker 2>take notes, you can go to Galton G. A. L.

1179
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:51.159
<v Speaker 2>T O N dot Org and you can hit on

1180
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:54.800
<v Speaker 2>a seminar. I don't have it up in front of me.

1181
01:07:55.159 --> 01:07:59.079
<v Speaker 2>You can hit on a seminar in which H. G.

1182
01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Wells and kind of go back and forth. And it's

1183
01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:06.199
<v Speaker 2>really chilling because for the most part H. G. Wells,

1184
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:11.639
<v Speaker 2>who we always look as a pretty groovy SIY writer right,

1185
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:15.880
<v Speaker 2>says listen, we'll do what the Romans do will kill

1186
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:20.399
<v Speaker 2>the hindmost so, frankly, if you not up the snuff

1187
01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:24.680
<v Speaker 2>coming out of the uterine the canal, they'll just kill

1188
01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:27.520
<v Speaker 2>you because they just don't want to bother with you right.

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01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you know that George Bernard Shaw was

1190
01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:31.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the persons who first talked about the use

1191
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:32.800
<v Speaker 1>of the gas chamber?

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01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:34.520
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't.

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01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, here can I I'll read you this quote. A

1194
01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:39.680
<v Speaker 1>part of eugenic politics would finally land us an extensive

1195
01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:42.079
<v Speaker 1>use of the lethal chamber. A great many people would

1196
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:44.119
<v Speaker 1>have to be put out of existence simply because it

1197
01:08:44.239 --> 01:08:47.359
<v Speaker 1>wastes other people's time to look after them. That's George

1198
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Bernard Shaw lecture to the Eugenics Education Society, port in

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01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the Daily Express, March fourth, nineteen ten.

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01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:59.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, and that's why it resonates so much

1201
01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:01.319
<v Speaker 2>more with me. Now Now, I mean, you hear these

1202
01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:05.079
<v Speaker 2>personages that pop up from from Europe, like Schwab and stuff,

1203
01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's the same stuff. It's like it's never gone away.

1204
01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:12.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, these people, even the royals of Europe who

1205
01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:16.960
<v Speaker 2>we look at as buffoonery, are not buffoonery. They think

1206
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:19.920
<v Speaker 2>they're Myravengeans and they're in the line of Christ and

1207
01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:24.319
<v Speaker 2>right there you go, there you go. And the fact

1208
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:26.960
<v Speaker 2>is that they know what's best. And I'll tell you what, truthfully,

1209
01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:31.720
<v Speaker 2>it's it is the old Roman Empire kept intact, and

1210
01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:33.640
<v Speaker 2>they are going to rise up again when the time

1211
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:38.119
<v Speaker 2>is right, and that time is happening now. And I

1212
01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:40.560
<v Speaker 2>mean when I see the commercials that are out there now,

1213
01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:46.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's absolutely chilling what they're promoting and and

1214
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:49.439
<v Speaker 2>we're headed for that period. So I mean in our

1215
01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:53.039
<v Speaker 2>school districts with it takes the village to raise a child,

1216
01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:56.560
<v Speaker 2>which always gave me the creeps, and rightfully so, I

1217
01:09:56.640 --> 01:10:00.279
<v Speaker 2>mean what you're looking at. You know, if people at

1218
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:04.279
<v Speaker 2>the ten planks of the Communist Manifesto, you'd find out

1219
01:10:04.319 --> 01:10:08.279
<v Speaker 2>that like nine of them have already been inculcated here.

1220
01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:11.600
<v Speaker 2>And it's for a reason. I mean, it's not anything

1221
01:10:11.640 --> 01:10:14.920
<v Speaker 2>about you know, Russians or anything like that. It's got

1222
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:18.439
<v Speaker 2>to do with control. And these people for centuries have

1223
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:21.880
<v Speaker 2>promised us a new feudalism and that's where we're hit.

1224
01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it goes back to Curley talking about

1225
01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:27.000
<v Speaker 1>people with the quiet wisdom of the cattle, talking about

1226
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:32.880
<v Speaker 1>neo feudalist aristok roccy whatever word. He is not an

1227
01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:37.840
<v Speaker 1>aristocracy but an aristo something. But yeah, so he's using

1228
01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:40.319
<v Speaker 1>these words like, yeah, I want an aristocratic revolution.

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01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:43.000
<v Speaker 2>You knows well, even if you're really play it in

1230
01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:46.399
<v Speaker 2>the Republic. I mean, what he says is that, you know,

1231
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:49.920
<v Speaker 2>the children have to be separated from the parents and

1232
01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:53.720
<v Speaker 2>brought out into the countryside and taught by the philosopher kings.

1233
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:58.760
<v Speaker 2>So there's always that element out there, and it's here again,

1234
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:01.319
<v Speaker 2>and it's because as it comes from the dark side,

1235
01:11:01.399 --> 01:11:03.920
<v Speaker 2>and it will stay until the time comes when Christ

1236
01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:07.520
<v Speaker 2>will return. And one of the reasons why I'm so

1237
01:11:07.680 --> 01:11:09.760
<v Speaker 2>out of the loop these days is because I spend

1238
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:13.159
<v Speaker 2>whatever time I do pretty much in the Bible, because

1239
01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:17.760
<v Speaker 2>it because I see it completely as the truth, and

1240
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I see it so much so as a sad to

1241
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the wounds that we collect living in today's society, because

1242
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:28.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean I wake up some mornings and I had

1243
01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:31.079
<v Speaker 2>look outside and go like, who are these people? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting nasty or nastier. I mean, it's pretty nasty

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01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:37.000
<v Speaker 1>when I was younger. Now it's super nasty. If you

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01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:40.119
<v Speaker 1>say the wrong thing, they'll come after your job, your livelihood.

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01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:44.039
<v Speaker 1>It's bad. It's like, well, body snatchers and vision of

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01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the body snatchers.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, well, well, the problem is and there's another thing.

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01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Orwell told us this was coming when Orwell wrote nineteen

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01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:55.920
<v Speaker 2>eighty four, he knew exactly what was happening. Orwell was

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01:11:56.279 --> 01:12:00.319
<v Speaker 2>sitting at the same table as the Fabians and others

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01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:04.760
<v Speaker 2>in what would be social engineering. And if you read

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01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:07.399
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty four we should be taught in Tolly sci

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01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:11.119
<v Speaker 2>and not in English, you'd realize that what he was

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01:12:11.159 --> 01:12:15.640
<v Speaker 2>telling us was true. I mean, changing the.

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01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Past, destroying it, yeah, destroying language, everything, It's all there,

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01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:23.000
<v Speaker 1>so you know it has happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I consider Orwell or Eric Blair a good guy. Huxley somewhat,

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01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:31.640
<v Speaker 2>but the two of them together kind of filling a

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01:12:31.720 --> 01:12:34.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of gaps as to what's happening now. And then

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at other books. And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that Mike getting started on this had a

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01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:43.560
<v Speaker 2>lot to do with going to a graduate program up

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01:12:43.600 --> 01:12:49.039
<v Speaker 2>in Godard College and my thesis was science fiction writers

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<v Speaker 2>of the mid fifties and why they predicted as much

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01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:55.039
<v Speaker 2>gloom for the coming century as they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I tell you what, I think. It didn't make

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01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:00.199
<v Speaker 1>for great reading, but it was certainly right on the

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01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:03.800
<v Speaker 1>head right pression. Yeah, absolutely, it's grim. Look at the

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01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Look at the news today, look at the corporate media.

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01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:10.359
<v Speaker 1>It's literally trying to kill you with misinformation. Literally trying

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01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to kill people during COVID and all this other stuff.

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01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just incredible. Like you would think that

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01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:17.960
<v Speaker 1>your tax dollars are something we go to something else,

1276
01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:21.000
<v Speaker 1>but you you don't get that. I mean, I got

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01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:23.079
<v Speaker 1>a couple of questions for you. One is you've had

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01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:26.399
<v Speaker 1>so many great guests, like Dave McGowan Alan Watt, who

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<v Speaker 1>recently passed away, which is a lost. A lot of

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01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:31.479
<v Speaker 1>people don't know the name of Alan Watts, Yeah, which

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01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:33.399
<v Speaker 1>is a loss because he was really the one of

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01:13:33.439 --> 01:13:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the first people who was talking about kind of the

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01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:40.399
<v Speaker 1>scientific dictatorship and the eugenicists and things like that. Can

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01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you talk a little bit about Alan Watt?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? We re both. I will miss Dave McGowan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, me too. I wish he was here.

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<v Speaker 2>He just he's just excellent researcher and had a What

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01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:57.319
<v Speaker 2>I love about people is when they had a self

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01:13:57.359 --> 01:14:00.920
<v Speaker 2>deprecating sense of humor. I think that's so great. You

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01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:04.600
<v Speaker 2>know that they don't take themselves seriously. And he was

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01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:07.880
<v Speaker 2>a personality. And I mean, I'm not gonna tell you this,

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01:14:07.960 --> 01:14:09.479
<v Speaker 2>not a day that goes by, This is probably not

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01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:11.159
<v Speaker 2>a week that goes by that I don't think about it.

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01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:14.159
<v Speaker 2>In fact, somebody sent me just two days ago a

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<v Speaker 2>video an audio of me and and doing a program

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01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:25.640
<v Speaker 2>to kill Alan Watt was dismersed because he supposedly ripped

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01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:29.359
<v Speaker 2>off somebody else's research. I don't know that's true or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll only speak to Alan as a person that

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<v Speaker 2>was good with his time and a straight shooter. And yes,

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01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:40.840
<v Speaker 2>he was very very interesting to discuss things with, and

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01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:44.039
<v Speaker 2>we had a pretty good thing going. I'll also tell

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01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:48.760
<v Speaker 2>you that real favorites of mine were.

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01:14:52.399 --> 01:14:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, think think about it. Because Alan Watt also

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01:14:56.520 --> 01:14:58.399
<v Speaker 1>was one of the first pre internet guys. I think

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01:14:58.479 --> 01:15:01.720
<v Speaker 1>that he was writing his manuals and his scripts and

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01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:04.479
<v Speaker 1>printing him out through a printer, so he was very

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01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:07.760
<v Speaker 1>much kind of like a pre internet pamphleteer. So he

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01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:09.399
<v Speaker 1>was really trying to get the word out. So I

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01:15:09.479 --> 01:15:12.079
<v Speaker 1>think he just died this year. I don't think he was.

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01:15:12.479 --> 01:15:14.439
<v Speaker 1>I think he was, you know, in his in his

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01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:17.640
<v Speaker 1>older years. But yeah, I used to listen. I went

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01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:20.439
<v Speaker 1>through a phase where I listened to him all the time,

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01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:23.119
<v Speaker 1>like I learned from him when I needed to learn,

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01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and kind of moved on.

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01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, he was a very gracious guest, and of course

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01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:28.880
<v Speaker 2>he had, you know, the brogue, which makes him easy

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01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:32.039
<v Speaker 2>to listen to, and he was he was always there

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01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:34.079
<v Speaker 2>for me and I have no problem with him whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Colvin with another one. We did a series of

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01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:43.439
<v Speaker 2>one year, we did every one. This is the Month

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01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:45.640
<v Speaker 2>that was, which is based off any only show. This

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01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:48.359
<v Speaker 2>is the week that was? Uh, and that was a

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01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:51.079
<v Speaker 2>big deal. And also, oh my god, I feel so

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01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:53.319
<v Speaker 2>bad about this. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon Comstock. I used to listen to you in Comstock

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01:15:56.600 --> 01:15:57.680
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Who are ye?

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01:15:57.800 --> 01:16:02.960
<v Speaker 2>God? Definitely without without a problem. Yes. And Eric the Blacksmith, Yeah,

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01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:03.840
<v Speaker 2>you had some good ones.

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01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:07.399
<v Speaker 1>And I did that show with about Hollywood. We talked

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01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:10.359
<v Speaker 1>about Hitler too. His name was I can't remember now.

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01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:12.199
<v Speaker 1>See my memory is.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that good at all.

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01:16:14.399 --> 01:16:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Also, Adam go rightly, Adam go rightly. Yeah, I just

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01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:18.880
<v Speaker 1>talked to him this year. Just published a new book.

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01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know that.

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01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he did. He put out a movie. Also.

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01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:25.439
<v Speaker 1>He's busy, but he did.

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01:16:25.399 --> 01:16:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Something that was really interesting. I see what's out there?

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01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:33.600
<v Speaker 2>My wife showing me what's out there on YouTube. That's scary.

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01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Kind of Daniel ben name.

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01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:40.000
<v Speaker 1>And Kowski, Yeah, I remember ben Kowski. He was kind

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01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:43.119
<v Speaker 1>of he wasn't he a magic a literal like, uh,

1343
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:45.640
<v Speaker 1>magician or something like that.

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01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to that extent, Yeah, he he was. But but

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01:16:51.720 --> 01:16:54.359
<v Speaker 2>I have to tell you also, I'm just looking at

1346
01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:58.640
<v Speaker 2>this now, and Joanne showed this to me. I did,

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01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:02.159
<v Speaker 2>I think the only existing interview with James Montgomery.

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01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:05.359
<v Speaker 1>James Montgomery, you talk of reference him all the time too, right,

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01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:06.000
<v Speaker 1>we're far fre.

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01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I did a two hour and twenty eight minute interview

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01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:13.239
<v Speaker 2>with the informer who has passed away, and Montgomery. Montgomery

1352
01:17:13.399 --> 01:17:16.720
<v Speaker 2>was really audio shy, he really didn't want to do anything.

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01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Mostly we just interviewed, we just emailed, but he did

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01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:26.760
<v Speaker 2>come out for this interview. Montgomery was a little less

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01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:31.920
<v Speaker 2>emotional than the informer, and I tended to kind of

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01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:34.800
<v Speaker 2>lean toward Montgomery about and this has got to do

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01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:36.880
<v Speaker 2>with the truths of America and all that other stuff.

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01:17:38.920 --> 01:17:43.039
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, Larry, Larry the Contractor, was that right, Larry

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01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the contract Larry the Contractor guy, show twelve episodes on Nazism,

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01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:49.479
<v Speaker 1>that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I, you know, I did a lot of

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01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:56.000
<v Speaker 2>books because I worked in a library and I saw

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01:17:56.119 --> 01:17:57.920
<v Speaker 2>some books that were going to get thrown out with

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01:17:58.039 --> 01:18:01.279
<v Speaker 2>donations and this that's the reason why the word doesn't

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01:18:01.279 --> 01:18:04.640
<v Speaker 2>get out. And it's because they are what they are.

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01:18:04.760 --> 01:18:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're they're a little bit, you know, to

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01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:08.800
<v Speaker 2>the lift of right or whatever you want to call it,

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01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:14.279
<v Speaker 2>and they don't make it into the stacks. But I

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01:18:14.399 --> 01:18:17.000
<v Speaker 2>took them and I did shows on him. One of

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01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:19.600
<v Speaker 2>them was The Ominous Parallels by Leonard Peakoff, who was

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01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:23.520
<v Speaker 2>a professor at Hunter College, and he called it right

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01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:26.479
<v Speaker 2>on the money. He wrote a book in nineteen eighty two,

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01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:30.920
<v Speaker 2>the Ominous Parallels The End of Freedom in America, and

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01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:35.399
<v Speaker 2>he likened our culture to the Nazi culture because you can,

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01:18:35.640 --> 01:18:40.479
<v Speaker 2>you can substitute the word Nazism for statism. Okay, yes,

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01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:44.279
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to say this much. Okay, I have

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01:18:44.439 --> 01:18:46.680
<v Speaker 2>no problem living in the United States. I have no

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01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:50.640
<v Speaker 2>angst against it. I have no powerful feelings one way

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01:18:50.680 --> 01:18:53.039
<v Speaker 2>or the other. This is where I was born, this

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01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:55.359
<v Speaker 2>is where I paid taxes, this is where I lived.

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01:18:56.319 --> 01:19:02.760
<v Speaker 2>But this culture is turning back and they use COVID

1382
01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:05.079
<v Speaker 2>to do it. Now you can imagine what it's like,

1383
01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:08.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, in a twilight zone. If they find out

1384
01:19:08.479 --> 01:19:11.359
<v Speaker 2>one of you aren't vaccinated, you're going to get stoned,

1385
01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:16.960
<v Speaker 2>you know. On the city's cringes. That's what it's about.

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01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Patriotism is statism, and it's unthinking. It's just reacting. And

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01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:26.560
<v Speaker 2>that's what Peacock was trying to say. In the End

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01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:30.840
<v Speaker 2>of Freedom in America, theonymous carrells it doesn't take much

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01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:34.319
<v Speaker 2>to get people to start to turn like a bunch

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01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:37.760
<v Speaker 2>of star dogs. And I see that happening here. And

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01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:40.079
<v Speaker 2>the one thing that really upsets me is like, as

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01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:42.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, I played ball for a lot

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01:19:42.159 --> 01:19:46.399
<v Speaker 2>of years. I was a coach as an umpire. I

1394
01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:49.800
<v Speaker 2>like athletics because it was released. But in today's day

1395
01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:53.600
<v Speaker 2>and age, all these shows that are out there are

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01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:59.560
<v Speaker 2>really rotting social change. And I don't mind that athletes

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01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:02.119
<v Speaker 2>have the onions, and I don't mind that talking heads

1398
01:20:02.159 --> 01:20:05.920
<v Speaker 2>have opinions socially, but you know what, when I'm watching sports,

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01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to watch sports. You guys have enough platforms

1400
01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:12.319
<v Speaker 2>to do your thing elsewhere. But this is a very

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01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:16.920
<v Speaker 2>insidious conveyor of culture. What's going on right now, and

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01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:19.600
<v Speaker 2>it's happening with sports and entertainment.

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01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is. It's all politicized. Everything's politicized, the numbers

1404
01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:27.279
<v Speaker 1>are politicized everything. It should really scare the living daylight

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01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:29.760
<v Speaker 1>tip of people. We're not that free. We talk about

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01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:31.760
<v Speaker 1>the land of the free, home of the brave, that

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01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:35.600
<v Speaker 1>that should just be stripped, that axiom should be stripped

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01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:38.479
<v Speaker 1>away from this country permanently because it does not apply.

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01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:42.359
<v Speaker 1>We're very little freedoms left and it's definitely not the

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01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:43.840
<v Speaker 1>home of brave in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>And I agree with you. And the thing is they'll

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01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:50.199
<v Speaker 2>make the people want it, that's the whole thing, and

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01:20:50.319 --> 01:20:55.239
<v Speaker 2>that they're being manipulated into wanting this. You know, That's

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01:20:55.239 --> 01:20:57.880
<v Speaker 2>why I always said a democracy. Well you know this yourself.

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01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:01.279
<v Speaker 2>Democracy is a bad word. I mean, it's it's it's

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01:21:01.359 --> 01:21:04.199
<v Speaker 2>not positive. Yes, all you have to do is get

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01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:07.239
<v Speaker 2>the mob on your side, and you get him on

1418
01:21:07.319 --> 01:21:13.000
<v Speaker 2>your side, you'll have the the critical mass to get

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01:21:13.039 --> 01:21:15.720
<v Speaker 2>what you want done and you'll call freedom. And it's

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01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:16.359
<v Speaker 2>not freedom.

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01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:17.159
<v Speaker 1>It's not for him.

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01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:20.000
<v Speaker 2>If bmocracy is not for him. Yeah, Well, the more

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01:21:20.079 --> 01:21:22.720
<v Speaker 2>people talk about freedom, you can guess one thing, the

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01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:23.920
<v Speaker 2>less you get right.

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01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:26.159
<v Speaker 1>I totally one hundred percent agree with that. And when

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01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:29.720
<v Speaker 1>they talk about democracy, uh, and they do it now

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01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:33.039
<v Speaker 1>in this context, it really is about mobocracy. Were in

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01:21:33.119 --> 01:21:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the country and its founding was not democratic. It is

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01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:40.159
<v Speaker 1>a representative republican. So they were afraid of democracy. They

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01:21:40.199 --> 01:21:41.720
<v Speaker 1>wrote about it all the time, and so all the

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01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:45.159
<v Speaker 1>old Greek philosophers as well were afraid of the mob.

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01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:47.920
<v Speaker 1>So when they talk about it today, the mob is

1433
01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:49.439
<v Speaker 1>ruling a lot of stuff, a lot of these like

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01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Chauvin or whatever. What he did was bad, but he did.

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01:21:53.239 --> 01:21:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he intentionally murdered that guy who was

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01:21:56.039 --> 01:22:01.039
<v Speaker 1>on drugs. And I think the force of the mob

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01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:05.319
<v Speaker 1>influenced the proceedings in a negative way. And you know,

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01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:07.359
<v Speaker 1>I feel sorry for George Floyd. I feel sorry for

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01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Showping too well.

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01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:11.239
<v Speaker 2>The thing is is that they don't This is not

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01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:18.279
<v Speaker 2>coming by happenstance. It's being orchestrated and every opportunity that

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01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:22.159
<v Speaker 2>presents itself, because they always do, it's being manipulated in

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01:22:22.239 --> 01:22:25.600
<v Speaker 2>a certain way. I mean, you know, and I'm sorry.

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01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:27.279
<v Speaker 2>You can call me racist if you want to. I'm

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01:22:27.399 --> 01:22:30.600
<v Speaker 2>just observing this. But I mean, I'm looking at TV

1446
01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:32.920
<v Speaker 2>now and if if you came from Mars and we're

1447
01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:35.039
<v Speaker 2>watching TV, you think that like three quarters of the

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01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:38.359
<v Speaker 2>country was black, Yeah, that's true. I mean, you know

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01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:41.239
<v Speaker 2>that rubs up your back, you know, fine, I mean

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01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:44.640
<v Speaker 2>all I'm saying is that I was alive for the

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01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:46.680
<v Speaker 2>sixties and I know how bad things were there, and

1452
01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:49.920
<v Speaker 2>they were bad, but the Jim Crow days are over,

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01:22:50.119 --> 01:22:52.159
<v Speaker 2>and it's after a while. It's like, if you're not

1454
01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:55.359
<v Speaker 2>going to get it done with all the bricks that

1455
01:22:55.399 --> 01:22:58.000
<v Speaker 2>they're still out there since affirmative Action, and I know this,

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01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's gonna piss people off. It's like, well,

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01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:04.119
<v Speaker 2>what do you want. I mean, you can have seven

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01:23:04.239 --> 01:23:08.039
<v Speaker 2>thousand out of eight thousand actors on TV being black.

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01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:11.600
<v Speaker 2>That's not gonna help the black population, you know what

1460
01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, It's gonna help the seven thousand actors who

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01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:18.960
<v Speaker 2>are black. So I mean it's if it ain't fixed,

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01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:21.399
<v Speaker 2>they ain't gonna get fixed. And as much as we

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01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:24.079
<v Speaker 2>say about our country that we're together, we're not.

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01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:25.399
<v Speaker 1>No, we're not.

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01:23:25.760 --> 01:23:26.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of the future is going to be

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01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:33.079
<v Speaker 1>very room the next couple of decades. I'm about it.

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01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:35.439
<v Speaker 1>It's opposite of optimistic. You can imagine.

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01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you, bro, Yeah, I mean you have children.

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01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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01:23:40.039 --> 01:23:43.479
<v Speaker 2>It's only I and my wife. But what I see

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01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:48.640
<v Speaker 2>happening now, it's not look anything that media does, and

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01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:50.760
<v Speaker 2>media is brought out to by the same people who

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01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:55.479
<v Speaker 2>run the politicians, right all they are. I mean, people

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01:23:55.560 --> 01:23:58.159
<v Speaker 2>get pissed off about Biden. I couldn't care less the

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01:23:58.319 --> 01:24:02.279
<v Speaker 2>stinks Bush stank Obamas that it doesn't matter. All we

1477
01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:07.760
<v Speaker 2>are are script readers. If this country's going to go socialism,

1478
01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:09.960
<v Speaker 2>they need a Democrat, so they're going to use somebody.

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01:24:10.439 --> 01:24:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden in Pennsylvania is an absolute laughing stock. This

1480
01:24:14.359 --> 01:24:17.159
<v Speaker 2>guy's guy's hands on more girls tits than you've ever seen.

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01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm serious, Go look on YouTube. I mean, it's just

1482
01:24:22.159 --> 01:24:24.920
<v Speaker 2>a joke. Do I care about them? No, that I

1483
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:25.880
<v Speaker 2>care about Clinton?

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01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>No, not a liar.

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01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:29.399
<v Speaker 2>But these are the people that are put up there

1486
01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:32.760
<v Speaker 2>to sell the script. That's what they are. They're salespeople.

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01:24:33.479 --> 01:24:36.840
<v Speaker 2>And so the whole idea of a Democrat and Republican

1488
01:24:37.319 --> 01:24:39.359
<v Speaker 2>is strictly to keep people at each other's throats. And

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01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:41.680
<v Speaker 2>it's never been worse than it is now. And in

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01:24:41.760 --> 01:24:43.600
<v Speaker 2>the meantime we go down the tubes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's it's not looking good. I mean,

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01:24:49.720 --> 01:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not what I mean. Do you have a curate

1493
01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:55.960
<v Speaker 1>so much experience and wisdom with all your shows and

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01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>all that writing when you're going back and looking through

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01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:02.399
<v Speaker 1>the Bible. Now, can you share kind of what your

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01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:04.880
<v Speaker 1>conclusions are. I mean, I know that you're a Christian,

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01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:07.319
<v Speaker 1>but like in your current times, in my life, I

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01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>go back to the Bible and I go, oh, my gosh,

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01:25:09.680 --> 01:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>this is true, this is true. I didn't understand that. Yeah,

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01:25:12.840 --> 01:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you have those kind of moments.

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01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:18.960
<v Speaker 2>How without adapt I mean when we first began the show,

1502
01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:21.720
<v Speaker 2>I really didn't want to do a lot of cult stuff.

1503
01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:23.520
<v Speaker 2>But people seem to really like it, you know, and

1504
01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I get it because it's like spooky and stuff like that.

1505
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:29.520
<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to get away from it. And then

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01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Harry said to me, you know, we're getting to churchy

1507
01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, you know, that's the way it is.

1508
01:25:36.199 --> 01:25:38.680
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not going to say that led to our splitting,

1509
01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:42.800
<v Speaker 2>but I still realized more and more that what I

1510
01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:46.960
<v Speaker 2>was seeing about the New World Order is congruent with

1511
01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:51.920
<v Speaker 2>statements takeover of a plant for whatever period of time,

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01:25:53.159 --> 01:25:56.079
<v Speaker 2>and so I, you know, I have no problem whatsoever.

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01:25:56.119 --> 01:25:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, people aren't deep into the Bible. I mean,

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01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:03.279
<v Speaker 2>you read the New Testament. I think you don't understand

1515
01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:05.399
<v Speaker 2>exactly what's going on. And I you know, in a

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01:26:05.439 --> 01:26:09.159
<v Speaker 2>way I didn't and then I did, and I'm like,

1517
01:26:09.399 --> 01:26:12.039
<v Speaker 2>and that's when I turned the show to being you know,

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01:26:12.399 --> 01:26:16.279
<v Speaker 2>pro Bible. I mean, look, there are a lot of

1519
01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:22.720
<v Speaker 2>biblical comment out there, all right, but here's the one thing.

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01:26:23.319 --> 01:26:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Get yourself a Tindall, a KJV or Geneva Bible and

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01:26:29.239 --> 01:26:32.000
<v Speaker 2>read it. Don't let anybody tell you what the Bible says.

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01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:34.640
<v Speaker 2>You read it for yourself. What'll take care of the rest.

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01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:37.960
<v Speaker 2>And so, yes, William, I mean be honest with you.

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01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Right now, I'm in that stage now where I'm nesting

1525
01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:43.600
<v Speaker 2>with the Bible because my time has come and it

1526
01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:44.119
<v Speaker 2>ain't good.

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01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that, man. I mean, you've

1528
01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:52.399
<v Speaker 1>just done such great work and you know, I really

1529
01:26:52.439 --> 01:26:56.039
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. What uh, you know, what do you look

1530
01:26:56.119 --> 01:26:58.279
<v Speaker 1>like for you as far as like where can people

1531
01:26:58.359 --> 01:27:00.159
<v Speaker 1>reach out to you? Do you have social media? Is

1532
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:03.720
<v Speaker 1>there something like a website? I mean I know that

1533
01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of still chatting with some of your old pals, right.

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01:27:07.520 --> 01:27:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean all I use is email, And since

1535
01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:12.279
<v Speaker 2>you brought this up, I'm gonna lay it on you.

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01:27:12.920 --> 01:27:13.920
<v Speaker 2>If anybody wants to.

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01:27:13.960 --> 01:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Get to me should email you. That's fine, because I

1538
01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:21.880
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of emails, so you can send it

1539
01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:24.479
<v Speaker 1>to me William Ramsey Investigates at gmail dot com, and

1540
01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I will forward it to Keith if anybody wants to

1541
01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>reach out to them. I mean, we're in ninety minutes.

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01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:31.640
<v Speaker 2>I'll let you go.

1543
01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything you'd like to add? Anything I missed

1544
01:27:34.039 --> 01:27:37.600
<v Speaker 1>before we wrap up this discussion about really interesting topics

1545
01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:39.159
<v Speaker 1>nine to eleven false flags?

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01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much all the truth is a lie. That's pretty

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01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:48.119
<v Speaker 2>much what it comes down to. If you want to

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01:27:48.159 --> 01:27:49.760
<v Speaker 2>find the truth, you're going to have to go beyond

1549
01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:54.359
<v Speaker 2>what's out there as far as history books, textbooks. I mean,

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01:27:54.439 --> 01:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>we've been propaganda as pretty well. As much as we

1551
01:27:58.239 --> 01:28:01.439
<v Speaker 2>make fun of countries as such as Russia and North Korea,

1552
01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:04.520
<v Speaker 2>everybody works their people, and so do we. We're no

1553
01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:07.560
<v Speaker 2>different in that matter. If there's anything that we've had

1554
01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:11.960
<v Speaker 2>is prosperity and it's more freedom, there's no two ways

1555
01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:15.199
<v Speaker 2>about it. But they're shrinking, and the whole idea what's

1556
01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:17.800
<v Speaker 2>going on now is to make all the countries the same.

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01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:21.680
<v Speaker 2>We're all going to be treated equally and equally as dogs,

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01:28:22.680 --> 01:28:25.439
<v Speaker 2>and that's all there is to it until Christ comes again.

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01:28:27.199 --> 01:28:29.840
<v Speaker 2>We're going to see the hard side of life. And

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01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but this is around the cavalry income they

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01:28:34.760 --> 01:28:35.560
<v Speaker 2>say this time.

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01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'll only be on the return of Jesus Christ.

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01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:41.479
<v Speaker 1>So again it's the great physic Goth. Go check out

1564
01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>his stuff. I put the I'll put the link to

1565
01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Radio for All dot net. And I also know a

1566
01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:48.439
<v Speaker 1>couple of places on YouTube that uploaded a lot of

1567
01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:50.039
<v Speaker 1>your old stuff too, so I'll put those in the

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01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>show notes. And if anybody wants to reach out to Keith,

1569
01:28:52.960 --> 01:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>they can send me an email. But Keith, thanks so

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01:28:56.039 --> 01:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>much for your time. Man, I really appreciate you. I

1571
01:28:57.800 --> 01:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>appreciate your work too.

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01:28:59.479 --> 01:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Listen, I I appreciate the fact that you were as

1573
01:29:03.840 --> 01:29:07.119
<v Speaker 2>ambitious as you were to get me back on. I

1574
01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't mean to be like that, but I got like

1575
01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>a little situation here, and and secondly, you know that honestly,

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01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I know that you're grateful for me putting you on

1577
01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:21.119
<v Speaker 2>in the early days, definitely, and you know I do

1578
01:29:21.319 --> 01:29:21.880
<v Speaker 2>like talking to you.

1579
01:29:22.039 --> 01:29:24.319
<v Speaker 1>So yeah. Likewise, man, it's great, great to be with

1580
01:29:24.399 --> 01:29:27.479
<v Speaker 1>you and talk with you again. And persistence pays off,

1581
01:29:27.520 --> 01:29:30.399
<v Speaker 1>you know. I'm determined. That's why I get these guests.

1582
01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>They just give in, just give up after send an email,

1583
01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>after email, they don't have a choice. Hey, if I

1584
01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:39.319
<v Speaker 1>go on, he'll go away. That's kind of so it's

1585
01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:42.399
<v Speaker 1>worked for me. Butt Thanks so much, Keith. Take there,

1586
01:29:42.439 --> 01:29:46.199
<v Speaker 1>having a great day, all right, brother? You don't don't don't. Yeah, thanks, don't,

1587
01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:47.319
<v Speaker 1>don't hang up, don't go anywhere.