Speaker 1: It's nice eye with ongoing Mazy Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Or we're talking about the efforts by the Trump administration
Speaker 2: to cut and they're closing officers, they're cutting this, they're
Speaker 2: doing that. I don't have any concept at this point
Speaker 2: of how to calculate exactly what progress they've made. I've
Speaker 2: seen some wild speculation about people living and getting paychecks
Speaker 2: who are one hundred and fifty years old that has
Speaker 2: turned out to be untrue to the best of my knowledge.
Speaker 2: I again, I will continue to tell you that I
Speaker 2: believe we have a huge problem with a federal debt.
Speaker 2: Federal debt, I mean, we owe it thirty seven point
Speaker 2: two trillion dollars. Do the math as to how much
Speaker 2: each of us would owe it's it's an incredible amount
Speaker 2: of money.
Speaker 3: I don't know how we do it.
Speaker 2: I don't know how we do it. I really don't.
Speaker 3: But we'll see.
Speaker 2: At least the Trump administration is trying. Got to give
Speaker 2: him some credit for that. Uh, and the folks who
Speaker 2: are out of the streets demonstrating I understand that point
Speaker 2: of view.
Speaker 3: But as far as I'm.
Speaker 2: Concerned, look, bottom line, in my opinion is somehow, some
Speaker 2: way we got to get the debt down. How do
Speaker 2: we do it? I don't like to see people lose
Speaker 2: their jobs, But how do we do it? You tell
Speaker 2: me the only line right now? Six one, seven, We're
Speaker 2: gonna go next two. Well, this says wireless caller here,
Speaker 2: Rob's I'll bet you the wireless caller has a name
Speaker 2: in line in line three have been He's been waiting
Speaker 2: there the longest. We just lost the guy who know.
Speaker 2: I'll go to will in Long Island. Rob, Let's go
Speaker 2: to will in wrong in Long Island. We'll go right ahead.
Speaker 4: Hey, Dan, So, in order to understand our debt picture,
Speaker 4: we need to understand the thirty six trillion in debt
Speaker 4: we have. We also need to understand our GDP and
Speaker 4: our debt to GDP ratio. I'm not a huge fiscal
Speaker 4: conservative because of the way we've positioned ourselves in the world,
Speaker 4: the way the world system runs on our banking system.
Speaker 4: It's put us on top of the world. I love
Speaker 4: the people that argue about globalism in the United States
Speaker 4: when globalism has made us richer than any country in
Speaker 4: the entire world. We're the globalists, by the way.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but I also I also think I also
Speaker 2: think that we have a system called capitalism, which, uh,
Speaker 2: there's regulations and all of that. It's not unfettered capitalism,
Speaker 2: but capitalism works better in terms of uh than any
Speaker 2: other economic uh you know system that might exist anywhere
Speaker 2: in the world.
Speaker 4: So, right, so people naturally want to follow the economic
Speaker 4: system that's the best.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: The United States has.
Speaker 2: A too many people in our country, I say, on
Speaker 2: the country, you know, let's get rid of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we just we You just covered the fact
Speaker 4: that most of those people don't even though the simplest
Speaker 4: basic economics, let alone macroeconomics on a major world level. Okay,
Speaker 4: So the debt to GDP of the United States ratio
Speaker 4: is about one hundred and twenty percent. Okay, let's compare
Speaker 4: that to a country like Japan, another large economy, right,
Speaker 4: their debt to GDP is about two hundred and sixty
Speaker 4: four percent. All right, There are several countries. The G
Speaker 4: seven has a debt to GDP ratio of one hundred
Speaker 4: and twenty five. The United States is that one hundred
Speaker 4: and twenty two. So if anybody has the right to
Speaker 4: lead the world in debt to GDP, it's the United States,
Speaker 4: all right. When you borrow money, right, what do they
Speaker 4: base the amount of money you can borrow on on
Speaker 4: the amount of money you make. It's the number one
Speaker 4: factor when you go to apply for any type of
Speaker 4: credit anywhere in the world, whether not only are you
Speaker 4: going to receive it, but if you're worthy of it.
Speaker 4: The United States GDP is almost thirty trillion. You know what,
Speaker 4: China is not even eighteen we are, it's.
Speaker 2: About twenty siven trillion.
Speaker 4: Okay, to be honest, we right, twenty seven seven ninety three,
Speaker 4: which puts US close to twenty eight trillion. So the
Speaker 4: point is the United What.
Speaker 2: I'm saying is what I'm saying is, look, is that
Speaker 2: if we were to tax every commercial transaction, we're in
Speaker 2: an area which used to be considered banana republic land
Speaker 2: when you had countries in South America and Central America
Speaker 2: who's whose debt was more than one hundred percent of
Speaker 2: its GDP and those were smaller countries.
Speaker 4: Well, but today it's twenty twenty five DAN. The GDP
Speaker 4: for France, for Italy, for the UK, they're all similar
Speaker 4: to ours, and the United States dwarfs their economies. The
Speaker 4: United States GDP is that we discussed over twenty seven trillion.
Speaker 4: You know what the UK's is.
Speaker 5: The UK's is.
Speaker 4: The UK's is less than four trillion.
Speaker 6: The entire UK.
Speaker 4: Okay, Canada has a GDP of two trillion. We have
Speaker 4: one hundred and nine percent that to GDP. As a
Speaker 4: matter of fact, if Russia were estate.
Speaker 2: In the country, will will relax, relax, relax. You give
Speaker 2: me a whole lot of numbers, but you're not telling
Speaker 2: me what what you believe that means.
Speaker 3: Does that mean to you that we're in better shape?
Speaker 4: We are in better shape. We are in better shape
Speaker 4: than most of the rest of the world because of
Speaker 4: our ability to pay. We're worried about things that we
Speaker 4: should we should be worried about, of course. But the
Speaker 4: biggest concern of the United States is to a which
Speaker 4: Donald Trump is doing, straighten out asymmetrical trade deals that
Speaker 4: were put in place with allies and foes alike. Okay,
Speaker 4: we should certainly be the top recipient of the tariffs,
Speaker 4: and we shouldn't be paying more than other countries, so
Speaker 4: those need to be straightened. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 4: pre nineteen thirteen, all.
Speaker 2: Of the United States, Well, stop yelling at me. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not yelling at you.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, what.
Speaker 2: Yelling at me, that's what you're doing. Well, you're gonna
Speaker 2: yell at me. You're gonna tell me this number. This,
Speaker 2: this is what Britain is. This is what friend says.
Speaker 2: Follow along all the numbers here. No one's going to
Speaker 2: be able to follow you. Okay, if you want to
Speaker 2: talk about tariffs, I think it's a great idea that
Speaker 2: we say to countries that are charging us big tariffs, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna charge you tariffs the same as you because
Speaker 2: I'd like to see no tariffs at all.
Speaker 3: That's what that would be, truly free trid.
Speaker 4: Okay, I think I think if we don't understand the
Speaker 4: full picture, it's easy to point at a thirty five
Speaker 4: trillion dollar debt and say that the sky is falling.
Speaker 4: Republicans have done that forever, which is funny because whenever
Speaker 4: they get in office, they spend more than the Democrat
Speaker 4: that was there before them. We gave in foreign aid the.
Speaker 2: Way, by the way again, will do me favor? Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to have a conversation with you, man. Okay,
Speaker 2: normally we do a lot better than this, and all
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say to you is you're right.
Speaker 3: You're right.
Speaker 2: George Bush probably outspent in his eight years from two
Speaker 2: thousand and one until two thousand and nine. More now
Speaker 2: he's going to claim, well, we had nine to eleven
Speaker 2: of them. I watch. So whatever the reason is, we're
Speaker 2: in trouble. If you want to tell me, we're not
Speaker 2: in trouble because we're in better shape than Angola or
Speaker 2: I am saying we're in better shape.
Speaker 4: We're in better shape on Defferans better shaping.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine, We're in.
Speaker 4: Better shape than a lot of people. Actually, we're in
Speaker 4: better shapes than a lot of countries.
Speaker 2: And as long as we continue to grow our GDP debt,
Speaker 2: our debt in terms of actual dollars is bigger than
Speaker 2: any debt in the world.
Speaker 4: Now, our our GDP is almost double the biggest, the
Speaker 4: next biggest one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I understand that. But all I'm just saying is,
Speaker 2: if the ship starts to go down, we're gonna you know, what,
Speaker 2: what would you do? What would you do? We agree
Speaker 2: on tariffs? What else do you want to do?
Speaker 4: I startinly agree on tariffs. I certainly agree on pulling
Speaker 4: back some foreign aid. We have committed to almost one
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty billion dollars in the Ukraine and dispersed
Speaker 4: almost one hundred billion. Their entire GDP is only one
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty billion, so we've literally committed to their
Speaker 4: entire GDP. We have funded Israel, which you know, I'm
Speaker 4: a huge fan of, but we've we've funded them since
Speaker 4: nineteen forty six to a tune of almost four hundred
Speaker 4: billion dollars. So let's start raining back some of that money.
Speaker 4: Number Two. I'm good for sensible cuts and areas of
Speaker 4: the federal government, especially of loaded bureaucracy that's sucking the
Speaker 4: money out of the public's pocket for decades. At this point.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that we can do. But
Speaker 4: what I'm a little bit concerned about is when we
Speaker 4: constantly bring up the thirty five trillion dollar debt as
Speaker 4: though that's the end all, be all for this nation,
Speaker 4: and that's just not true because financially we are the
Speaker 4: largest GDP in the order.
Speaker 2: And again will again conversation over speech, but that's fine.
Speaker 2: The more stuff you throw to list people a going
Speaker 2: to comprehend you talk about forty billion in support of Israel.
Speaker 3: I think that was the.
Speaker 4: Number almost four almost four hundred billion since nineteen forty six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, forty eight Okay, fair enough. Okay, Now that
Speaker 2: four hundred billion on average, and I realized that the
Speaker 2: money is more is less valuable today than it was.
Speaker 2: That's about six billion a year on average. Divide four
Speaker 2: hundred by seventy five. That's that's six billion a year.
Speaker 2: That's one tenth of the budget of the state of Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: I think that's money pretty well invested in Israel. Okay,
Speaker 2: And I'm saying that, but I am no. But I'm
Speaker 2: just you're telling me. You throw a big number out there.
Speaker 2: I just want to put it in perspective. Well, well,
Speaker 2: I got to run. I'm way past my break. Next time,
Speaker 2: let's have a conversation, okay, instead of a yelling match. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think we'll have more we'll have more progress. Thanks,
Speaker 2: have a great night. Coming back on the night's side.
Speaker 2: We're just looking for a conversation, that's all. You know.
Speaker 2: Will was making a whole bunch of points, and I'm
Speaker 2: not sure that I caught them all. I don't know
Speaker 2: that you caught them all. I'd love to know what
Speaker 2: do you think right now? Maybe you like Will, Maybe
Speaker 2: it will be, you know, worried about the thirty seven trillion.
Speaker 2: That's okay, I am call me, you know, I'm I
Speaker 2: worry about that six one seven thirty six one seven
Speaker 2: nine three thirty. Come right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, let's hear. Let's go to Patrick, DC. We
Speaker 3: almost lost Patrick there.
Speaker 2: Patrick, welcome next on Nightside.
Speaker 7: I was excited about being the unknown caller. I mean,
Speaker 7: that would have been really great.
Speaker 2: You know, well the reason I went to you was
Speaker 2: when I went to the unknown caller because he's been
Speaker 2: waiting there long enough and very really I don't ever
Speaker 2: remember Rob leaving someone up as the lead potential pick.
Speaker 3: To be an old caller.
Speaker 2: But we now know what is. It's Patrick.
Speaker 7: It was. It was you know, folks here since I
Speaker 7: was born in Washington, DC. And if you're really concerned
Speaker 7: about the government, the government waste and the government waste,
Speaker 7: maybe going away, don't worry. Will make some more, if
Speaker 7: any any waste anyways we cut out, Believe me, we
Speaker 7: will make some more. If we will not, we will
Speaker 7: not let the waste go go to waste. You know
Speaker 7: trust me on that one. But you know, I have
Speaker 7: to take the position because I work with with men
Speaker 7: in work boots and they really have boots on the
Speaker 7: ground and they work hard for their living, uh what
Speaker 7: little they have. They believe in their family. They're devoted
Speaker 7: to their wife, their kids, their job. They're the ones
Speaker 7: that show up every day. They're the ones that everybody
Speaker 7: counts on. And they are the ones who are not
Speaker 7: guaranteed anything. Okay, they are not guaranteed any and they
Speaker 7: we talk that we can lose our job tomorrow. Nobody
Speaker 7: guarantee our job could be gone to them. But we
Speaker 7: are the ones to keep all those people who are
Speaker 7: losing their jobs to have a job. If it wasn't
Speaker 7: for us, those people who were losing their jobs would
Speaker 7: not have a job. But so those people who were
Speaker 7: losing their jobs, they didn't help me get a job.
Speaker 7: I feel sorry for them, I do, But they didn't
Speaker 7: help me get a job. When they went into government,
Speaker 7: did they go to protect me? I don't think they did.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well yes, And you know, in all fairness to government workers,
Speaker 7: what happened to the Transportation Security Administration during the lockdown
Speaker 7: or the government shutdown was very very wrong. And I
Speaker 7: hope Congress for some reason, you know, if there is
Speaker 7: going to be a government shutdown, that we please do
Speaker 7: not do this to the Transportation Security Administration again if
Speaker 7: we want our planes flying. That was very, very bad.
Speaker 7: That was very bad. So there are some things that
Speaker 7: you know that can continually can go wrong, and we
Speaker 7: have seen a lot go wrong this year so far.
Speaker 3: And you know, unfortunately no doubt about that one.
Speaker 7: Patrick, all right, so on to the next. I appreciate
Speaker 7: listening to everybody, but I just wanted to put in that, uh,
Speaker 7: that thought about us people who provide the jobs for
Speaker 7: the people who are losing their jobs.
Speaker 2: Yep, I appreciate that. I really do. Thank you, Patrick,
Speaker 2: talk to you soon, all right, sir, Eric, good night.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Jason and Waltham. Jason and you
Speaker 2: are next one nights.
Speaker 8: I welcome, Hey, thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: You're welcome.
Speaker 8: So, so I got a few I got a few theories.
Speaker 8: So America is like a friend who takes you out
Speaker 8: to eat. I ain't Brud's about how much to spend
Speaker 8: on lunch, right, or they spend their last money and
Speaker 8: they tell you how they got problems at home how
Speaker 8: they didn't pay their rent. So we're so busy going
Speaker 8: around the world trying to fix other countries' problems, but
Speaker 8: we got problems are on backyard. We spend a lot
Speaker 8: of money for frivult I would say frivolous, but on
Speaker 8: unnecessary things that we don't should have to. For example,
Speaker 8: we got that we're hearing thousands and thousands of agents
Speaker 8: to deport people.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 8: It costs money for those agents to go from door
Speaker 8: to door reporting people that should even be deported in
Speaker 8: some cases, and they raise some people that need to
Speaker 8: be deported, right, but that costs money the plans.
Speaker 5: That we use.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to follow you, so give me, give me
Speaker 2: an opportunity because I'm trying to fall in. I want
Speaker 2: to make sure that my listeners follow you. So you're
Speaker 2: saying that America is in effect wasting money if I'm
Speaker 2: hearing you correctly by spending money to deport people, not
Speaker 2: just that.
Speaker 8: Was an example. That's just one example, right.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, I just want to what I'm trying
Speaker 2: to say to you, just bear with me for a second, Jayson,
Speaker 2: I just want to understand what you're saying is if
Speaker 2: if America is wasting money by obviously costs money to
Speaker 2: employ people, ICE agents, et cetera, by trying to deport people.
Speaker 2: So is that solution we save the money and we
Speaker 2: don't try to deport people.
Speaker 3: Is that do your suggestion.
Speaker 8: That could be obviously when they want to make up
Speaker 8: the deficit just by using that.
Speaker 2: No, no, I know that, but I'm just.
Speaker 3: That's just one thing. Let me ask you this, let me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, no, I know, I'm just I just try
Speaker 2: to say, here's my question. Should we have people on
Speaker 2: the border, you know, ICE agents making sure that people
Speaker 2: don't come in the country illegally. So I understand you're saying,
Speaker 2: we're not if you get in the country illegally, We're
Speaker 2: not going to have people spending money. We're not going
Speaker 2: to spend money hiring people to deport people. Should we
Speaker 2: spend money on the border to have people keep people
Speaker 2: out of the country.
Speaker 8: Yes, because the problem is already here.
Speaker 3: We shouldn't.
Speaker 8: We will never deport that amount of people we're trying to
Speaker 8: deport people are underground, who can I'm waiting.
Speaker 2: But what I'm trying to what I'm trying to understand
Speaker 2: is what you're saying to me. Is I think is Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's let's keep the border, don't let any more people in,
Speaker 2: but the people who got in, leave them alone.
Speaker 3: That's I think what you're saying. Is that correct?
Speaker 8: Or No, that's that's get them, get them when they
Speaker 8: go through the system, Get them when they go through
Speaker 8: the system.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 8: By then, I don't want to just focus on the
Speaker 8: immigration issue. Right, think about the walls.
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 8: Why was this money hold on?
Speaker 2: Jason? You raised the immigration issue. That's why I'm asking
Speaker 2: you about it. You want to make I'll tell you what, Jason,
Speaker 2: if you want to make a speech, I'll be happy
Speaker 2: to just sit and listen.
Speaker 3: Would that be easier for you?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 8: No, no, no no no no no no no.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like you and I haven't you sort
Speaker 2: of think of it like this, Jason, we just met
Speaker 2: and we're having a drink at a bar together, and
Speaker 2: we're talking baseball or we're talking politics, and you bring
Speaker 2: up something about immigration. So I just was trying to
Speaker 2: understand where you're coming from. You've said to me, people
Speaker 2: who are here, don't try to deport him, but keep
Speaker 2: people on the borders to prevent more people from coming in.
Speaker 3: That's what your solution.
Speaker 8: Is, right, Yeah, but that's not the entire solution. That's
Speaker 8: like a peace.
Speaker 2: That's a part of it. Yeah, Okay, tell us what else?
Speaker 2: What other solution do you have?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 8: All this money we're giving for wars that don't a
Speaker 8: concerns How does Iran in Russia concern Earth? How does
Speaker 8: it concern USA? How does Israel and concern USA?
Speaker 3: Immensely? In a word, immensely immensely.
Speaker 2: But Iran right now, Iran, right now, Jason is trying
Speaker 2: to get nuclear weapons and a delivery system of those
Speaker 2: nuclear weapons, which they have said they intend to use
Speaker 2: on Israel, which is our only friend, true friend in
Speaker 2: the Middle East. If Israel was hit by a nuke
Speaker 2: from Iran, Israel, which is the country about the size
Speaker 2: of New Jersey, would be obliterated from the face of
Speaker 2: the earth.
Speaker 7: That day.
Speaker 2: The stock market would crash, the world economy would crash.
Speaker 2: You would live in a world like you've never lived
Speaker 2: in before by that one nuclear strike. That's how it
Speaker 2: affects US.
Speaker 8: So so it's fight enough to say America is only
Speaker 8: going to get involved in the walls where America only benefits.
Speaker 2: I think that we should only I think I agree
Speaker 2: with you if you're saying that, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: In other words, if there is a war that breaks
Speaker 2: out tomorrow between I don't know, Australia and New Zealand,
Speaker 2: let's pick up. Let's pick that, and we don't have
Speaker 2: a dog in that fight. You know, maybe we like Australia,
Speaker 2: maybe we like New Zealand. Maybe we try to negotiate
Speaker 2: or broker a peace and say, why are you guys fighting?
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna send troops to Australia to beat
Speaker 2: New Zealand or New Zealand beat to us. Why would
Speaker 2: we do that. The only time you're going to get
Speaker 2: into a war is if the vital interest of the
Speaker 2: country involved. I think.
Speaker 8: There's ways, there's ways in our system don't save money
Speaker 8: through the judicial system. There's ways to save money. It
Speaker 8: costs money to inconstrate some of those people who aren't
Speaker 8: constrate it. That's one. Uh, it costs money.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you the question, Jason, what percentage
Speaker 2: of the people in this country, in your opinion, because
Speaker 2: this is an opinion, show what percentage of the people
Speaker 2: who are in prison and in this country should be
Speaker 2: let out to save money in your opinion, how many?
Speaker 3: What percentage of twenty percent?
Speaker 8: Anybody anybody with a non violent anybody with a non
Speaker 8: violent charge.
Speaker 3: Okay, that would be hold on, let me tell you. Okay, wait,
Speaker 3: hold on.
Speaker 2: Non violent criminals primarily are what we call white collar criminals,
Speaker 2: people who have engaged in monetary fraud. You know where
Speaker 2: those people go to prison. They go to prison in
Speaker 2: federal prison. The people who commit crime, street crime, violent crime, murder, rape,
Speaker 2: armed robbery, assault, et cetera.
Speaker 3: They're in state prisons.
Speaker 2: So you want to let you want to let the
Speaker 2: white collar crime criminals out, but but not the guys
Speaker 2: who have committed a victim, who have committed crimes of violence. Right.
Speaker 8: So, okay, I spent some time in Atlanta. I used
Speaker 8: to live in Atlanta, and I was in kind of
Speaker 8: Joe and Cop kind of jail. I'll say, all those
Speaker 8: people in there, they're in there for mister Minner's jail
Speaker 8: walking parking tickets, like mister minute.
Speaker 2: I want to believe you, Jason, because you sound like
Speaker 2: a really great guy, but I have never heard of anyone,
Speaker 2: never mind met anyone who was in jail only for jaywalking.
Speaker 2: That is what's called an urban myth. You don't go
Speaker 2: to jail for jaywalking in America. I'm sorry, you don't
Speaker 2: even get a record. Do you know how many times?
Speaker 2: Do you know how many times I've jay walked in America? Hundreds?
Speaker 8: Look up cop, Look up Marietta in cop comedy, Look
Speaker 8: up Marietta in cop conty.
Speaker 3: Fair enough?
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey Jason, I'm up on my break. We've actually
Speaker 2: gone eight minutes. It's been a fascinating conversation. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you've called my show before, but I'd like
Speaker 2: you to become a regular caller because we got a
Speaker 2: lot of talk. We got a lot of things to
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 8: Fair enough, Thank you, I am. I am a very
Speaker 8: listener listener.
Speaker 2: I hope you become a more more frequent caller. Thanks Jason,
Speaker 2: have a great night. Good night.
Speaker 3: Six one thirty six one seven.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Back we Go.
Speaker 3: We're gonna go Rachel and Quincy Rachel next time.
Speaker 2: Nice. I welcome.
Speaker 10: Oh hey Dan, I've just been listening. I'm like, oh lord,
Speaker 10: I've got questions and then people what's it and like
Speaker 10: like no joke, Dan, this is crazy, And I'm like Okay,
Speaker 10: don't have to agree with Trump, don't have to agree
Speaker 10: with anything, but if you do bad things, yeah leave
Speaker 10: And mister Jason, I believe that's who you were just
Speaker 10: speaking with. He's like okay, and he's saying, well, you know, okay,
Speaker 10: well you go to jail to do this or do whatever.
Speaker 10: And I don't know why, you know, let him go whatever.
Speaker 10: I don't know, Dan, this is like crazy. I am
Speaker 10: so overwhelmed about. I am sorry. You more than welcome
Speaker 10: to come to the US, come properly. And it's you
Speaker 10: don't buy And I am not not that, not a
Speaker 10: Trump supportive, but I am when it comes to I
Speaker 10: am sorry. You need to leave the country if you
Speaker 10: are a violent person. And this is what part of
Speaker 10: what I did not understand when they opened up you
Speaker 10: know everybody coming in here.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, if.
Speaker 2: Biden administration made a mistake, they wanted to bring everybody
Speaker 2: in and they they were disingenuous about it. They they
Speaker 2: weren't honest with the American people, and they paid a price.
Speaker 2: They paid a horrific price. They lost the White House?
Speaker 2: And uh not only did did did? Did? Did Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris lose the election? Joe Biden was basically broomed for
Speaker 2: the White House, you know, I mean they paid a price.
Speaker 2: They paid a price.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 10: So I I would like to ask your opinion, because
Speaker 10: you know who I am. So now we have all
Speaker 10: these diseases that our children are being affected with. We've
Speaker 10: got a huge measle outbreak in Texas. Yep, We've got
Speaker 10: I don't know, I am like, I almost want to
Speaker 10: cry because all this diseases coming in. We get to
Speaker 10: berculosis now, and.
Speaker 2: Some people, some people believe firmly that this is direct
Speaker 2: related directly to lacks, you know, vaccination standards for people
Speaker 2: coming across the border. Other people say that there's a
Speaker 2: bunch of people who have made a decision in the
Speaker 2: wake of COVID not to take vaccines. I think more
Speaker 2: study needs to be done, and I hope it's honest
Speaker 2: study to find out who you know are contracting these
Speaker 2: these diseases. Theoretically, if you get a vaccine against measles,
Speaker 2: you shouldn't get measles, right, I mean, if you get
Speaker 2: a vaccine, you shouldn't get it.
Speaker 3: Now tuberculosis. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess that there's a there's all sorts of vaccines
Speaker 2: for everything. So you got to figure that, you know,
Speaker 2: it's got to be a study done, more than you
Speaker 2: and me just speculating because we might be wrong.
Speaker 10: No, but may I just say something so more than
Speaker 10: welcome come to the US, may we test you for this, this,
Speaker 10: in that and whatever.
Speaker 3: And well, that's what we did.
Speaker 2: That's what we did it. That's what was done at
Speaker 2: Ellis Island in the nineteen twenties. There's nothing radical about that,
Speaker 2: there's nothing new about that. Absolutely, you should do that,
Speaker 2: no question, you should do that, without question.
Speaker 10: Absolutely. My grandmother came over from Ellis Island from Scotland
Speaker 10: and her name is Wherever and and yes. But then
Speaker 10: when they opened up the borders and it's like oh yeah,
Speaker 10: hell yick, I'm on in, I'm on.
Speaker 2: Again. That was that was a mistake, Rachel. I gotta
Speaker 2: keep rolling here because they got a whole bunch of calls.
Speaker 2: Always great to hear your voice. Thank you much, appreciate
Speaker 2: it very much. We'll talk soon, okay. Thanks, right back
Speaker 2: at you, Right back at you, Rachel. Thanks Mikes and Lynn,
Speaker 2: Mike you next time.
Speaker 1: Night.
Speaker 6: It's not going to get you in here a.
Speaker 3: Good sir.
Speaker 11: I want to do Chris the people they one wooing
Speaker 11: and the submarine and the summary in the protection in
Speaker 11: our country. I've been here five yes, or I know
Speaker 11: about some guys go to work and pay taxes.
Speaker 3: All you know about is to go to work and
Speaker 3: pay taxes.
Speaker 11: Right, Yes, but I do respect the people because they
Speaker 11: are in the submarine. But nobody give them no respect.
Speaker 3: Okay, were you a submariner?
Speaker 11: No, I'm always but I do respect them.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we're not really talking about submarines tonight, Mike.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been listening to the show much,
Speaker 2: but that's a little off topic.
Speaker 11: But they put our hands fry.
Speaker 3: They do.
Speaker 2: They absolutely do. There's no question about that. And I
Speaker 2: appreciate your tribute to submariners everywhere. Thank you, Mike, appreciate
Speaker 2: your call. Okay, let's go next to Chris in Nanik. Chris,
Speaker 2: please don't talk about submarines. Go right, ahare Chris?
Speaker 10: I think, I think, Michael.
Speaker 6: It's going good. Interesting that is you tonight. I guess uh,
Speaker 6: you know, I'm a little disappointed.
Speaker 12: Right.
Speaker 6: We have a lot of smart people in this country,
Speaker 6: and you know, to be honest, I feel like whether
Speaker 6: the presidents and the Congress and Senate just don't have
Speaker 6: a strong desire to listen to the economists that are
Speaker 6: should be at the table to make sure that we
Speaker 6: have a balanced budget, right, so we can't be running
Speaker 6: you know, these these deficits year over year and and
Speaker 6: then I think that we're we're gonna be okay. You know,
Speaker 6: I am fired up about this. I think we need
Speaker 6: to take some actions. So I like some of the
Speaker 6: things that are happening now to look at you know,
Speaker 6: where there's fraud and waste. You know, it seems like
Speaker 6: it's happening a little too fast, right, not really the
Speaker 6: precision that I would expect, right right, I think you
Speaker 6: go a little slower. But we've been in this tradition,
Speaker 6: you know, in the in the nineties, Clinton was able
Speaker 6: to address and run a surplus at that point in time.
Speaker 6: I think we just need to go back now, bring
Speaker 6: the right people at the table. And truthfully, I think
Speaker 6: we're gonna have to tax the the you know, the
Speaker 6: the elite, right somehow, raise taxes again and cut some programs.
Speaker 6: But it really just becomes to me very easy. It's
Speaker 6: fiscal responsibility, and we do not have that right now.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a pretty good formula. To be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I'm not so keen on raising taxes
Speaker 2: because I think when you raise taxes, all you doing
Speaker 2: is feeding that that monster of the government, which has
Speaker 2: an appetite that believe as much taxes as you feed it.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people in this country who
Speaker 2: pay a lot of taxes, and we could tax everybody
Speaker 2: everything they make, and we're still not gonna that will
Speaker 2: not get us out of the debt of the depth
Speaker 2: that we're in right now.
Speaker 6: So it's it's, you know, it's both sides. You know,
Speaker 6: Color earlier mentioned that, right we could we could look
Speaker 6: at trying to figure out how we can uh, you know,
Speaker 6: cut you know the inefficient uh you know, the fraud
Speaker 6: in the in the ways that we can cut our spending,
Speaker 6: but it's also what we have to bring in more revenue.
Speaker 6: Right That's okay, So.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. Okay, here's my question. Here's
Speaker 3: my question.
Speaker 2: What, in your opinion, should be the highest tax rate
Speaker 2: that American and Americans should pay? What What's what's the
Speaker 2: fairest tax rate that someone should pay?
Speaker 6: I mean, I think let me, let me, let me
Speaker 6: give you a better question. Yeah, let me give you.
Speaker 3: Let me give you a better question. Let me give
Speaker 3: you a better question.
Speaker 2: So let's assume that you make a million dollars somehow,
Speaker 2: you know, you're whatever, You're a movie star, you're an athlete, whatever.
Speaker 2: You make a million dollars. How much of that What
Speaker 2: percentage of that million dollars should you pay in federal taxes?
Speaker 6: In your opinion, I think in somewhere in the high twenties, twenties.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good, high twenties. Do you know what the
Speaker 2: top margin, the marginal rate is the top marginal rate
Speaker 2: is now, for the person who makes a million dollars,
Speaker 2: what is it? Thirty seven percent? Now, let's assume that's
Speaker 2: a movie star who lives in California. What do you
Speaker 2: think the tax rate is in California for someone who
Speaker 2: makes a million dollars?
Speaker 6: Yeah, again, let's just go back, right, we need during.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you. Let me since maybe some of
Speaker 2: the audience will like to know. So, if you live
Speaker 2: in California, you're gonna pay thirty seven percent on a
Speaker 2: million dollars, and you're gonna pay thirteen percent in state
Speaker 2: income taxes. So that means fifty percent of your earnings
Speaker 2: is going to go in taxes. This is when you're
Speaker 2: making a million dollars. Okay, so not everybody makes a
Speaker 2: million dollars, but there's not a lot of place to
Speaker 2: go and and charge people more money. Is what I'm
Speaker 2: trying to say to you, is we're kind of maxed out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying to look back at
Speaker 6: you know, think back. You know, Clinton did it right
Speaker 6: in the the late nineties, right, we had a sharp
Speaker 6: plus and I think what he did at that time
Speaker 6: was the you know, increasing the tax rate on call
Speaker 6: it the top earners.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: I think we need to look at you know, it's
Speaker 6: not going to be popular, but I think that's the
Speaker 6: only way that we can sort of get back to
Speaker 6: a recipe of all right.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough. I got you, I got it.
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep you. I got four other calls.
Speaker 2: I gotta get to Chris. Keep thinking about those numbers,
Speaker 2: and let's talk again on this.
Speaker 6: Okay, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Then, thank you, Chris. Here's a break. We're coming right
Speaker 2: back on night's side. I'll get ed David, Christine and
Speaker 2: Jamie in. I don't know that I get anymore in
Speaker 2: so if you want to call the only line that's
Speaker 2: open at six one seven, No promises.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World,
Speaker 1: Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: We're gonna try mightily to get everybody in.
Speaker 3: David in San Francisco, David and.
Speaker 2: Getting give everybody about minute and a half, two minutes
Speaker 2: go right ahead.
Speaker 12: I think I can do it, Dan. I'm calling to
Speaker 12: find out how the patriotic Thirteen Colonies Revolutionary War city
Speaker 12: of Boston is facing Donald Trump's declaration that he's a king.
Speaker 2: We haven't had, we haven't heard about the declaration he's
Speaker 2: he's the king. When did he make that declaration?
Speaker 11: Oh you didn't.
Speaker 12: All you do quick google search Trump king and he
Speaker 12: did no.
Speaker 2: But you said, I think I might have misheard you, David,
Speaker 2: But I think you said that he had issued a
Speaker 2: declaration that he was a king. I don't recall when
Speaker 2: he made that. Can you give me a kind of
Speaker 2: pinned that down fall?
Speaker 12: That's look here at the headlines New York Times, long
Speaker 12: Live the King. Trump likens himself to royalty on truth
Speaker 12: social and that's not a declaration.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, do me a favorite. That's really not a
Speaker 2: declaration I know you try it. You're not patriotic then, Dan, Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm very patriotic as a matter of fact. But
Speaker 2: we've wasted about a minute and twenty seconds, and I
Speaker 2: thank you for for only taking a minute twenty Let's
Speaker 2: keep the got the thek the plank going there for
Speaker 2: bad piece. Where goes David? Let's keep rolling. They're going
Speaker 2: to go to Jamie and Worcester. Jamie next, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get you in as well. Go ahead, Jamie, do me
Speaker 2: a favorite, will put Jamie in? Hold? Okay? Uh, explain
Speaker 2: to Jamie that we're not here to publicize other programs.
Speaker 2: I may come back dam if he wants to stick around.
Speaker 2: Let me go to ADD in Worcester. ADD next on
Speaker 2: Nightsagger right ahead.
Speaker 5: For David in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: Actually, I think Donald Trump today in a tweet about
Speaker 5: killing congestion pricing in New York City. In the tweet,
Speaker 5: he said about presumably referring to himself, he said in
Speaker 5: all caps, long Live the King explanations. But he does
Speaker 5: it because he knows liberal netwiths like David in San Francisco,
Speaker 5: we'll have their heads explode. They can't see that he
Speaker 5: is playing them like a three dollars banjo. Yeah, he
Speaker 5: does that in order to control them and drive them crazy.
Speaker 2: Does a good job at it too, doesn't he?
Speaker 5: He does a great job. And here's my larger point.
Speaker 5: You know, we can you can argue about this and
Speaker 5: that and the next thing. We're in a moment where
Speaker 5: the counter culture, the sixties counterculture, has become the dominant culture. Okay,
Speaker 5: forget about whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Speaker 5: It simply is not going to last. And I will
Speaker 5: explain to you why a counterculture can never take responsibility
Speaker 5: for anything. Okay, they can never accept that anything is
Speaker 5: their fault. They want a mile of authority and an
Speaker 5: inch of accountability. And this is again, this is something
Speaker 5: that people like David and San Francisco are just too
Speaker 5: sick to understand. The public is not going to stand
Speaker 5: for that. Okay, I don't care what arguments you make.
Speaker 5: The public is just not going to tolerate that. And
Speaker 5: they are going to say, if elon Musk is the
Speaker 5: medicine that's going to fix that problem, then we're gonna
Speaker 5: take elon musk. That's just the reality period the end.
Speaker 3: Fair enough, all right, I got you in thanks, ed,
Speaker 3: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Talk soon.
Speaker 3: Let me go to Christine and Dad.
Speaker 2: I'm Christine gonna get you any of then we're gonna
Speaker 2: get Jamie to finish up.
Speaker 13: Go hey, Christine, I think what we should do is
Speaker 13: stop sending weapons, money, staffics in this country and stop
Speaker 13: tucks in other countries and maybe then will be take
Speaker 13: some money.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that's you know, I think there's certain
Speaker 2: countries we need to support, such as Israel, because Israel
Speaker 2: is surrounded by any and there are Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: if if you agree with me on Israel, and I
Speaker 2: think we also got to kind of keep our eye
Speaker 2: on Iran to be honest with you, right exactly.
Speaker 3: All right, Christine, we're an agreements.
Speaker 2: All right. Let me go back to Jamie and Worcester. Jamie,
Speaker 2: you got put you got a minute or two in
Speaker 2: the penalty box for mentioning other radio stations and other
Speaker 2: radio stations personality.
Speaker 9: I didn't read the book. I didn't know.
Speaker 3: Well, we can hit you with a flat go ahead.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not here to publicize other radio show, simple
Speaker 2: as that.
Speaker 9: Go ahead. I don't like I've just started to be
Speaker 9: a new new caller to show.
Speaker 3: Okay, no problem, go right ahead.
Speaker 9: So it was like, hopless, I didn't. If I knew that,
Speaker 9: I wouldn't have said it. Anyway, no problem, you hear.
Speaker 9: I was listening to a news source way okay, and
Speaker 9: it said Dad Jim McGovern had a big meeting in
Speaker 9: Northampton and there was five hundred people there and she
Speaker 9: was talking about people were frustrated with the with the
Speaker 9: uh Trump, Paul sees and stuff, and anyway.
Speaker 2: Here's Jamie. Jamie flat out of time. I literally have
Speaker 2: ten seconds left, so I got to let you go.
Speaker 2: Call again.
Speaker 3: We'll have a better conversation.
Speaker 2: Thank you much.
Speaker 3: Done for the night, everybody. I'll see tomorrow. I'll see
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Speaker 3: That's what your pet's whorre we passed. They loved you
Speaker 3: and you love them.
Speaker 2: I do believe you'll see the begining see getamore night
Speaker 2: or night's at everyone