WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:05.480 It's nice eye with ongoing Mazy Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:10.560 Or we're talking about the efforts by the Trump administration 3 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:17.199 to cut and they're closing officers, they're cutting this, they're 4 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.399 doing that. I don't have any concept at this point 5 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:27.760 of how to calculate exactly what progress they've made. I've 6 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:32.560 seen some wild speculation about people living and getting paychecks 7 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:34.280 who are one hundred and fifty years old that has 8 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:37.039 turned out to be untrue to the best of my knowledge. 9 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:41.159 I again, I will continue to tell you that I 10 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:44.960 believe we have a huge problem with a federal debt. 11 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.880 Federal debt, I mean, we owe it thirty seven point 12 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:51.079 two trillion dollars. Do the math as to how much 13 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:56.359 each of us would owe it's it's an incredible amount 14 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:56.759 of money. 15 00:00:58.280 --> 00:00:59.200 I don't know how we do it. 16 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:01.039 I don't know how we do it. I really don't. 17 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:02.719 But we'll see. 18 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:05.040 At least the Trump administration is trying. Got to give 19 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:07.840 him some credit for that. Uh, and the folks who 20 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:10.280 are out of the streets demonstrating I understand that point 21 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:10.640 of view. 22 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:11.920 But as far as I'm. 23 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:17.640 Concerned, look, bottom line, in my opinion is somehow, some 24 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:20.000 way we got to get the debt down. How do 25 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:23.159 we do it? I don't like to see people lose 26 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:26.200 their jobs, But how do we do it? You tell 27 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:29.959 me the only line right now? Six one, seven, We're 28 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:33.799 gonna go next two. Well, this says wireless caller here, 29 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:36.120 Rob's I'll bet you the wireless caller has a name 30 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.519 in line in line three have been He's been waiting 31 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.599 there the longest. We just lost the guy who know. 32 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:45.480 I'll go to will in Long Island. Rob, Let's go 33 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:48.359 to will in wrong in Long Island. We'll go right ahead. 34 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:54.359 Hey, Dan, So, in order to understand our debt picture, 35 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:57.120 we need to understand the thirty six trillion in debt 36 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:00.840 we have. We also need to understand our GDP and 37 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:04.239 our debt to GDP ratio. I'm not a huge fiscal 38 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:07.519 conservative because of the way we've positioned ourselves in the world, 39 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:11.960 the way the world system runs on our banking system. 40 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:14.199 It's put us on top of the world. I love 41 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:17.199 the people that argue about globalism in the United States 42 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:20.439 when globalism has made us richer than any country in 43 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:22.599 the entire world. We're the globalists, by the way. 44 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:26.120 Well, yeah, but I also I also think I also 45 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:31.520 think that we have a system called capitalism, which, uh, 46 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:35.199 there's regulations and all of that. It's not unfettered capitalism, 47 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:39.719 but capitalism works better in terms of uh than any 48 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:44.039 other economic uh you know system that might exist anywhere 49 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:44.479 in the world. 50 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:48.599 So, right, so people naturally want to follow the economic 51 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:49.719 system that's the best. 52 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:49.960 Right. 53 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:52.039 The United States has. 54 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:54.680 A too many people in our country, I say, on 55 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:56.240 the country, you know, let's get rid of it. 56 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:58.680 Yeah, and we just we You just covered the fact 57 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:01.159 that most of those people don't even though the simplest 58 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:06.919 basic economics, let alone macroeconomics on a major world level. Okay, 59 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:09.719 So the debt to GDP of the United States ratio 60 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:12.960 is about one hundred and twenty percent. Okay, let's compare 61 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:16.240 that to a country like Japan, another large economy, right, 62 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:19.039 their debt to GDP is about two hundred and sixty 63 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:22.759 four percent. All right, There are several countries. The G 64 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:26.080 seven has a debt to GDP ratio of one hundred 65 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:28.039 and twenty five. The United States is that one hundred 66 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:31.520 and twenty two. So if anybody has the right to 67 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:35.360 lead the world in debt to GDP, it's the United States, 68 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:38.080 all right. When you borrow money, right, what do they 69 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:40.400 base the amount of money you can borrow on on 70 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:42.400 the amount of money you make. It's the number one 71 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:44.400 factor when you go to apply for any type of 72 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:47.000 credit anywhere in the world, whether not only are you 73 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:48.919 going to receive it, but if you're worthy of it. 74 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:53.639 The United States GDP is almost thirty trillion. You know what, 75 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:59.520 China is not even eighteen we are, it's. 76 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:00.800 About twenty siven trillion. 77 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:03.680 Okay, to be honest, we right, twenty seven seven ninety three, 78 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:06.560 which puts US close to twenty eight trillion. So the 79 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:08.159 point is the United What. 80 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:11.840 I'm saying is what I'm saying is, look, is that 81 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:18.360 if we were to tax every commercial transaction, we're in 82 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:23.279 an area which used to be considered banana republic land 83 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:27.040 when you had countries in South America and Central America 84 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:31.879 who's whose debt was more than one hundred percent of 85 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:34.480 its GDP and those were smaller countries. 86 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:38.560 Well, but today it's twenty twenty five DAN. The GDP 87 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.759 for France, for Italy, for the UK, they're all similar 88 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:46.439 to ours, and the United States dwarfs their economies. The 89 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.240 United States GDP is that we discussed over twenty seven trillion. 90 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:51.519 You know what the UK's is. 91 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:52.720 The UK's is. 92 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:54.879 The UK's is less than four trillion. 93 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:56.279 The entire UK. 94 00:04:56.680 --> 00:05:00.120 Okay, Canada has a GDP of two trillion. We have 95 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:02.199 one hundred and nine percent that to GDP. As a 96 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:04.360 matter of fact, if Russia were estate. 97 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:09.279 In the country, will will relax, relax, relax. You give 98 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:11.319 me a whole lot of numbers, but you're not telling 99 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:13.199 me what what you believe that means. 100 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:15.920 Does that mean to you that we're in better shape? 101 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:20.680 We are in better shape. We are in better shape 102 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.160 than most of the rest of the world because of 103 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:26.600 our ability to pay. We're worried about things that we 104 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:28.959 should we should be worried about, of course. But the 105 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:32.240 biggest concern of the United States is to a which 106 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:35.480 Donald Trump is doing, straighten out asymmetrical trade deals that 107 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:39.879 were put in place with allies and foes alike. Okay, 108 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:43.800 we should certainly be the top recipient of the tariffs, 109 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:46.439 and we shouldn't be paying more than other countries, so 110 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.079 those need to be straightened. As a matter of fact, 111 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:50.199 pre nineteen thirteen, all. 112 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:53.279 Of the United States, Well, stop yelling at me. Okay, 113 00:05:53.959 --> 00:05:54.879 I'm not yelling at you. 114 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:55.800 I'm just saying, what. 115 00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:59.040 Yelling at me, that's what you're doing. Well, you're gonna 116 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:01.120 yell at me. You're gonna tell me this number. This, 117 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:02.759 this is what Britain is. This is what friend says. 118 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:05.199 Follow along all the numbers here. No one's going to 119 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:07.439 be able to follow you. Okay, if you want to 120 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:12.040 talk about tariffs, I think it's a great idea that 121 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:16.000 we say to countries that are charging us big tariffs, Okay, 122 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:19.160 we're gonna charge you tariffs the same as you because 123 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:21.399 I'd like to see no tariffs at all. 124 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:23.439 That's what that would be, truly free trid. 125 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:26.680 Okay, I think I think if we don't understand the 126 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:31.000 full picture, it's easy to point at a thirty five 127 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:35.079 trillion dollar debt and say that the sky is falling. 128 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:38.480 Republicans have done that forever, which is funny because whenever 129 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:40.759 they get in office, they spend more than the Democrat 130 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:44.079 that was there before them. We gave in foreign aid the. 131 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:47.079 Way, by the way again, will do me favor? Okay, 132 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:49.360 I'm trying to have a conversation with you, man. Okay, 133 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:52.000 normally we do a lot better than this, and all 134 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:53.560 I'm trying to say to you is you're right. 135 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:54.319 You're right. 136 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:59.079 George Bush probably outspent in his eight years from two 137 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:01.600 thousand and one until two thousand and nine. More now 138 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:03.680 he's going to claim, well, we had nine to eleven 139 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.920 of them. I watch. So whatever the reason is, we're 140 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:08.759 in trouble. If you want to tell me, we're not 141 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:12.480 in trouble because we're in better shape than Angola or 142 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:14.920 I am saying we're in better shape. 143 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:17.680 We're in better shape on Defferans better shaping. 144 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:19.519 Okay, that's fine, We're in. 145 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:21.600 Better shape than a lot of people. Actually, we're in 146 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:22.879 better shapes than a lot of countries. 147 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:25.720 And as long as we continue to grow our GDP debt, 148 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:30.920 our debt in terms of actual dollars is bigger than 149 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:33.319 any debt in the world. 150 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:37.439 Now, our our GDP is almost double the biggest, the 151 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:38.160 next biggest one. 152 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:40.680 Yeah, no, I understand that. But all I'm just saying is, 153 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:46.120 if the ship starts to go down, we're gonna you know, what, 154 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:48.399 what would you do? What would you do? We agree 155 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:49.759 on tariffs? What else do you want to do? 156 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:53.240 I startinly agree on tariffs. I certainly agree on pulling 157 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:55.800 back some foreign aid. We have committed to almost one 158 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:59.199 hundred and eighty billion dollars in the Ukraine and dispersed 159 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:02.160 almost one hundred billion. Their entire GDP is only one 160 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:04.720 hundred and eighty billion, so we've literally committed to their 161 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.800 entire GDP. We have funded Israel, which you know, I'm 162 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.439 a huge fan of, but we've we've funded them since 163 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:13.160 nineteen forty six to a tune of almost four hundred 164 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.839 billion dollars. So let's start raining back some of that money. 165 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:20.480 Number Two. I'm good for sensible cuts and areas of 166 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:24.120 the federal government, especially of loaded bureaucracy that's sucking the 167 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:28.040 money out of the public's pocket for decades. At this point. 168 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:30.040 There's a lot of things that we can do. But 169 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:32.720 what I'm a little bit concerned about is when we 170 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:36.559 constantly bring up the thirty five trillion dollar debt as 171 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:39.279 though that's the end all, be all for this nation, 172 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:42.480 and that's just not true because financially we are the 173 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:43.639 largest GDP in the order. 174 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:47.279 And again will again conversation over speech, but that's fine. 175 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:49.879 The more stuff you throw to list people a going 176 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:55.879 to comprehend you talk about forty billion in support of Israel. 177 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:56.480 I think that was the. 178 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:02.320 Number almost four almost four hundred billion since nineteen forty six. 179 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:06.960 Yeah, okay, forty eight Okay, fair enough. Okay, Now that 180 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:10.879 four hundred billion on average, and I realized that the 181 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.480 money is more is less valuable today than it was. 182 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:18.799 That's about six billion a year on average. Divide four 183 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:22.440 hundred by seventy five. That's that's six billion a year. 184 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:27.200 That's one tenth of the budget of the state of Massachusetts. 185 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:30.279 I think that's money pretty well invested in Israel. Okay, 186 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:33.200 And I'm saying that, but I am no. But I'm 187 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:35.879 just you're telling me. You throw a big number out there. 188 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:37.879 I just want to put it in perspective. Well, well, 189 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:40.440 I got to run. I'm way past my break. Next time, 190 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:43.200 let's have a conversation, okay, instead of a yelling match. Okay, 191 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:45.720 I think we'll have more we'll have more progress. Thanks, 192 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:48.039 have a great night. Coming back on the night's side. 193 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:50.279 We're just looking for a conversation, that's all. You know. 194 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:53.399 Will was making a whole bunch of points, and I'm 195 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:57.080 not sure that I caught them all. I don't know 196 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:00.159 that you caught them all. I'd love to know what 197 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:03.799 do you think right now? Maybe you like Will, Maybe 198 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:06.399 it will be, you know, worried about the thirty seven trillion. 199 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:10.919 That's okay, I am call me, you know, I'm I 200 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:15.159 worry about that six one seven thirty six one seven 201 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:17.399 nine three thirty. Come right back on Nightside. 202 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:21.080 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 203 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:24.360 Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio. 204 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:29.519 Yes, indeed, let's hear. Let's go to Patrick, DC. We 205 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:30.840 almost lost Patrick there. 206 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:32.519 Patrick, welcome next on Nightside. 207 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:35.679 I was excited about being the unknown caller. I mean, 208 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:36.679 that would have been really great. 209 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:39.320 You know, well the reason I went to you was 210 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:41.080 when I went to the unknown caller because he's been 211 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:43.840 waiting there long enough and very really I don't ever 212 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:48.240 remember Rob leaving someone up as the lead potential pick. 213 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:49.039 To be an old caller. 214 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.480 But we now know what is. It's Patrick. 215 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:55.120 It was. It was you know, folks here since I 216 00:10:55.159 --> 00:10:58.720 was born in Washington, DC. And if you're really concerned 217 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:02.559 about the government, the government waste and the government waste, 218 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:06.639 maybe going away, don't worry. Will make some more, if 219 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:10.720 any any waste anyways we cut out, Believe me, we 220 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:13.600 will make some more. If we will not, we will 221 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.519 not let the waste go go to waste. You know 222 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:21.000 trust me on that one. But you know, I have 223 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:24.440 to take the position because I work with with men 224 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:27.799 in work boots and they really have boots on the 225 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:33.480 ground and they work hard for their living, uh what 226 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:37.879 little they have. They believe in their family. They're devoted 227 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:41.559 to their wife, their kids, their job. They're the ones 228 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:44.000 that show up every day. They're the ones that everybody 229 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:47.480 counts on. And they are the ones who are not 230 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:53.840 guaranteed anything. Okay, they are not guaranteed any and they 231 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:58.480 we talk that we can lose our job tomorrow. Nobody 232 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:02.120 guarantee our job could be gone to them. But we 233 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:05.240 are the ones to keep all those people who are 234 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:09.639 losing their jobs to have a job. If it wasn't 235 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:12.759 for us, those people who were losing their jobs would 236 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:16.720 not have a job. But so those people who were 237 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:20.279 losing their jobs, they didn't help me get a job. 238 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:25.320 I feel sorry for them, I do, But they didn't 239 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:28.279 help me get a job. When they went into government, 240 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:31.559 did they go to protect me? I don't think they did. 241 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:35.039 Yeah. 242 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:39.440 Well yes, And you know, in all fairness to government workers, 243 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:45.000 what happened to the Transportation Security Administration during the lockdown 244 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:48.159 or the government shutdown was very very wrong. And I 245 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:51.399 hope Congress for some reason, you know, if there is 246 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:54.360 going to be a government shutdown, that we please do 247 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.679 not do this to the Transportation Security Administration again if 248 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:01.799 we want our planes flying. That was very, very bad. 249 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:04.679 That was very bad. So there are some things that 250 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:09.320 you know that can continually can go wrong, and we 251 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:11.919 have seen a lot go wrong this year so far. 252 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:16.799 And you know, unfortunately no doubt about that one. 253 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.960 Patrick, all right, so on to the next. I appreciate 254 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:24.240 listening to everybody, but I just wanted to put in that, uh, 255 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:29.559 that thought about us people who provide the jobs for 256 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:31.080 the people who are losing their jobs. 257 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:34.480 Yep, I appreciate that. I really do. Thank you, Patrick, 258 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:36.960 talk to you soon, all right, sir, Eric, good night. 259 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:39.000 Let me go to Jason and Waltham. Jason and you 260 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:39.799 are next one nights. 261 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.679 I welcome, Hey, thank you, thank you for having me. 262 00:13:44.120 --> 00:13:44.639 You're welcome. 263 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:50.480 So, so I got a few I got a few theories. 264 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:56.039 So America is like a friend who takes you out 265 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.679 to eat. I ain't Brud's about how much to spend 266 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:02.200 on lunch, right, or they spend their last money and 267 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:04.240 they tell you how they got problems at home how 268 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:08.200 they didn't pay their rent. So we're so busy going 269 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:11.039 around the world trying to fix other countries' problems, but 270 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:14.360 we got problems are on backyard. We spend a lot 271 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:17.840 of money for frivult I would say frivolous, but on 272 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:21.320 unnecessary things that we don't should have to. For example, 273 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:24.559 we got that we're hearing thousands and thousands of agents 274 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:25.720 to deport people. 275 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:26.519 Right. 276 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:29.279 It costs money for those agents to go from door 277 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:31.840 to door reporting people that should even be deported in 278 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:34.279 some cases, and they raise some people that need to 279 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:38.639 be deported, right, but that costs money the plans. 280 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:38.759 That we use. 281 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:43.720 I'm trying to follow you, so give me, give me 282 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:45.879 an opportunity because I'm trying to fall in. I want 283 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:49.679 to make sure that my listeners follow you. So you're 284 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:54.320 saying that America is in effect wasting money if I'm 285 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:59.679 hearing you correctly by spending money to deport people, not 286 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:00.240 just that. 287 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:02.279 Was an example. That's just one example, right. 288 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:04.600 What I'm saying, I just want to what I'm trying 289 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:06.679 to say to you, just bear with me for a second, Jayson, 290 00:15:06.679 --> 00:15:09.600 I just want to understand what you're saying is if 291 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:15.559 if America is wasting money by obviously costs money to 292 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:21.360 employ people, ICE agents, et cetera, by trying to deport people. 293 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:24.440 So is that solution we save the money and we 294 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:25.759 don't try to deport people. 295 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:28.879 Is that do your suggestion. 296 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:32.559 That could be obviously when they want to make up 297 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:34.720 the deficit just by using that. 298 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:36.559 No, no, I know that, but I'm just. 299 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:39.600 That's just one thing. Let me ask you this, let me. 300 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:43.120 Yeah, No, no, I know, I'm just I just try 301 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:49.000 to say, here's my question. Should we have people on 302 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:53.240 the border, you know, ICE agents making sure that people 303 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:57.440 don't come in the country illegally. So I understand you're saying, 304 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:00.559 we're not if you get in the country illegally, We're 305 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:03.840 not going to have people spending money. We're not going 306 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:08.000 to spend money hiring people to deport people. Should we 307 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:13.480 spend money on the border to have people keep people 308 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:15.000 out of the country. 309 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:18.039 Yes, because the problem is already here. 310 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:18.799 We shouldn't. 311 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:21.039 We will never deport that amount of people we're trying to 312 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:24.200 deport people are underground, who can I'm waiting. 313 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:26.480 But what I'm trying to what I'm trying to understand 314 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:29.960 is what you're saying to me. Is I think is Yeah, 315 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:33.559 let's let's keep the border, don't let any more people in, 316 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:37.320 but the people who got in, leave them alone. 317 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:39.919 That's I think what you're saying. Is that correct? 318 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.519 Or No, that's that's get them, get them when they 319 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:45.320 go through the system, Get them when they go through 320 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:45.759 the system. 321 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:46.000 Right. 322 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:47.720 By then, I don't want to just focus on the 323 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:50.320 immigration issue. Right, think about the walls. 324 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:50.600 Right? 325 00:16:50.759 --> 00:16:52.840 Why was this money hold on? 326 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:56.080 Jason? You raised the immigration issue. That's why I'm asking 327 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:57.960 you about it. You want to make I'll tell you what, Jason, 328 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:00.279 if you want to make a speech, I'll be happy 329 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:01.159 to just sit and listen. 330 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:02.759 Would that be easier for you? 331 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:05.640 No? 332 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:07.279 No, no, no no no no no no no. 333 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:09.599 It's like it's like you and I haven't you sort 334 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:11.640 of think of it like this, Jason, we just met 335 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:13.839 and we're having a drink at a bar together, and 336 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:17.359 we're talking baseball or we're talking politics, and you bring 337 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:19.920 up something about immigration. So I just was trying to 338 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:23.000 understand where you're coming from. You've said to me, people 339 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:28.000 who are here, don't try to deport him, but keep 340 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:31.359 people on the borders to prevent more people from coming in. 341 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:32.640 That's what your solution. 342 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:36.000 Is, right, Yeah, but that's not the entire solution. That's 343 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:37.799 like a peace. 344 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:40.359 That's a part of it. Yeah, Okay, tell us what else? 345 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:41.640 What other solution do you have? 346 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:42.839 Right? 347 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:45.480 All this money we're giving for wars that don't a 348 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:51.720 concerns How does Iran in Russia concern Earth? How does 349 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:55.319 it concern USA? How does Israel and concern USA? 350 00:17:55.880 --> 00:18:01.039 Immensely? In a word, immensely immensely. 351 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:07.440 But Iran right now, Iran, right now, Jason is trying 352 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.920 to get nuclear weapons and a delivery system of those 353 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:15.319 nuclear weapons, which they have said they intend to use 354 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:19.960 on Israel, which is our only friend, true friend in 355 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:25.079 the Middle East. If Israel was hit by a nuke 356 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:29.279 from Iran, Israel, which is the country about the size 357 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:32.960 of New Jersey, would be obliterated from the face of 358 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:33.720 the earth. 359 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:35.599 That day. 360 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:41.400 The stock market would crash, the world economy would crash. 361 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:44.559 You would live in a world like you've never lived 362 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:49.359 in before by that one nuclear strike. That's how it 363 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:50.039 affects US. 364 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:53.720 So so it's fight enough to say America is only 365 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:56.559 going to get involved in the walls where America only benefits. 366 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:00.599 I think that we should only I think I agree 367 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:03.559 with you if you're saying that, that's what I'm saying. 368 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:05.720 In other words, if there is a war that breaks 369 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:10.119 out tomorrow between I don't know, Australia and New Zealand, 370 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:12.960 let's pick up. Let's pick that, and we don't have 371 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:15.920 a dog in that fight. You know, maybe we like Australia, 372 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:19.440 maybe we like New Zealand. Maybe we try to negotiate 373 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:21.599 or broker a peace and say, why are you guys fighting? 374 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:24.279 But I'm not gonna send troops to Australia to beat 375 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:26.400 New Zealand or New Zealand beat to us. Why would 376 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:28.920 we do that. The only time you're going to get 377 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:32.000 into a war is if the vital interest of the 378 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:34.400 country involved. I think. 379 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:40.480 There's ways, there's ways in our system don't save money 380 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:43.440 through the judicial system. There's ways to save money. It 381 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:45.680 costs money to inconstrate some of those people who aren't 382 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:50.200 constrate it. That's one. Uh, it costs money. 383 00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:53.519 So let me ask you the question, Jason, what percentage 384 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:55.799 of the people in this country, in your opinion, because 385 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:58.799 this is an opinion, show what percentage of the people 386 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:02.279 who are in prison and in this country should be 387 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:04.799 let out to save money in your opinion, how many? 388 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:06.839 What percentage of twenty percent? 389 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:09.680 Anybody anybody with a non violent anybody with a non 390 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:10.720 violent charge. 391 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:16.720 Okay, that would be hold on, let me tell you. Okay, wait, 392 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:17.440 hold on. 393 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:23.039 Non violent criminals primarily are what we call white collar criminals, 394 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:26.440 people who have engaged in monetary fraud. You know where 395 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:29.799 those people go to prison. They go to prison in 396 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:36.599 federal prison. The people who commit crime, street crime, violent crime, murder, rape, 397 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:40.359 armed robbery, assault, et cetera. 398 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:42.960 They're in state prisons. 399 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:45.119 So you want to let you want to let the 400 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:50.920 white collar crime criminals out, but but not the guys 401 00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:54.839