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Speaker 3: What is going on. Clippers fans, Welcome to season three,

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episode twenty eight of Clips and Dip, your favorite Clippers podcast,

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We hope. I am Chuck Buckler, joined by Adam Oslin

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and Will Updike. We got the full crew here today.

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If you hung out with Will and I on the

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live over at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast,

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thanks for hanging out. It was a good time, a

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good time.

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Speaker 5: We went a lot longer on that stream than I

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thought we were going to check out an hour after

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a loss of the Rockets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was a good time. We're gonna talk

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about some of the same stuff we touched on, the

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new starting lineup. How good some of the younger guys

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looked in the end. They're halfway through the end I

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guess of that Rockets game that we're touching on. The

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Jazz Warriors back to back happening this weekend. But before

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we get into all of that, the Clippers are five hundred.

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We're loving it. Adam, how are you feeling We kind

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of we did our ten game kind of stat breakdown

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the last full episode we had. It feels like the

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Clippers are kind of playing into that ten game. So

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how are you feeling now that we're back at five hundred,

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where we might be back a couple more times this season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not surprised by any of this. I said

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I'd sign up for five hundred after ten games. It

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took twelve games to get there or get back to

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there after.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they were right and high after the ten games.

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Speaker 6: Then oh yeah, six and four. What a different couple

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of games make. So they played a good Rockets team.

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They're playing them again on Friday. I understand that some

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people find it more of an excruciating loss because of

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the Oaklay's okay see pickswap implications. I understand. But there

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was somebody who said to me as I was doing

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the game preview, like, though we should be beating this team.

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I'm just like, why they're seven and four?

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Speaker 5: People? This team is bad? Is like real, like real bad.

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Speaker 6: They're clueless. They have one of the best defense, is

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one of the best rebounding there's some of the best

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rebounding numbers in the league, and now their second in

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offensive rebounding percentage. Yeah, the Clippers got crushed there last night.

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a team that's really good in that area, and it's.

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Speaker 3: A team that we're going to talk about is the

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blueprint for how to kind of beat the Clippers, which

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is young athletic defenders. They have a lot of guys

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on that Rockets team who play hard like that that

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Rockets bench, I don't know, they have a bright future ahead.

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It seems like weill. How are you doing now that

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we're five hundred the day after five hundred.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing good. I mean, you know, it felt a

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lot better to be a couple of games over five hundred,

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which you know, was a nice little surprise. This hasn't

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been the easiest schedule either, just given rest days and

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and everything kind of going on there. And I wonder,

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especially with Harden, if that's some of what you're seeing

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with this lack of efficiency. I'm not really sure. You know,

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we're still waiting for him to get those legs under him.

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But overall, you know, I like this game. I do

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feel like it was winnable in that I think a

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substitution could have been made to close out this game,

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or a substitution or two that could have put this

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Speaker 6: Who what time of the game. I'm curious.

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Speaker 5: They missed a couple rebounds like they were getting killed

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on the glass. At around I want to say, like

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the four minute mark, they were like having okay defensive

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possessions and then sort of not really close and not

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really closing them out. So I would like just a

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little bit of size, like I could see Derrick Jones

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Junior out there, maybe even a Nick Batoomb something to

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just add a little bit more, like a little bit

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more size and grit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well, like I said, I see it both

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ways though, like I understand, like you have to test

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these guys and this these were the most meaningful minutes

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for some of these players in this season, and like

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for some of them really their their NBA careers, So

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it makes it makes sense why why you try to

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see what they you know, what they could do, especially

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when they had the momentum going into the fourth.

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Speaker 3: Bones got his first free throw attempt for the season.

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the young guys' lineup that we might who knows, maybe

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athleticism needed to combat Houston's athleticism. Starting lineup change. Twelve

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games in, Tyler makes the change. He puts Chris Done

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in for Terrence Man. It's a permanent change. He's not

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going back. Just for reference for anyone out there who

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didn't think that a starting lineup change was coming or

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anything like that, the old starters were minus ten points

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per one hundred possessions to start well.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. We had kind of talked about on

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the show before how Terrence hadn't been great to start

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the season. We didn't necessarily feel at the time as

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though he was losing US games. Where are you guys

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you know, it probably is time for a change now.

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was like, this is it Terrence? After that, okay, see

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game I kind of I posted all the numbers. I

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think they were a minus thirty five total over one

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hundred and sixty six minutes the starting lineup. Now, the

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numbers weren't good with a mirror in place of Man

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because they were turning the ball over a ton, but

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they were shooting really well with that lineup, and then

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the numbers with Chris Dunn instead of Man were good,

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but it was really limited. They were like a plus

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thirteen and ten minutes so far this season or something

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like that.

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Speaker 3: Well size, let's go.

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Speaker 6: And they went with Chris Nunn. And I think it

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makes a lot of sense. We talked about during the summer,

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but this is somebody that can replicate a lot of

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what Patrick Beverly was doing in the backcourt for Houston

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next to James Harden. And if you want James Harden

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to not have to be overtaxed and somebody else that

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can bring the ball up, Chris Dunn was the guy

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to do that. And I honestly, I don't know if

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they're Yeah, last couple of games he's been great with

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a ratio, it's been him. And I don't think honestly,

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with the way he's been rebounding and some of the

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boards he has gotten, I don't know if they're losing

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much there by having him in place a Terrence Man.

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I think it's all a plus.

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Speaker 3: I think you're right. The all a plus thing is

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like I think for the most part, people were like, Okay,

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we're gonna be happy that Chris done. No one, No

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one thought putting Chris Dunn in was a big risk,

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right because he's been so good.

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what I liked so much about him With the second

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unit is just with the younger guys having a vent

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who you know, is very predictable and you know what

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you're going to get out of them. And I think

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that that like raises the floor with those lineups. But

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it makes a lot of sense in the starting lineup.

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I'm curious like what it looks like though, if we

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when we do play larger teams. And I know, like

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the rebounding has been really good really for Clippers guards

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sort of across the board. We know that, but I

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don't know in my head, there's still one game in

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my head, there's still some limitations there. Yeah, but you

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know that's a specific situation like that. You know, those

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are specific situations.

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Speaker 3: And one thing that's cool, Adam you mentioned kind of

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taking giving Harden a break on the offense, the small

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small pick and roll with Chris Dunn and James Harden.

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The lot of the Jam has been tweeting about this

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a lot. If you want to go check out their

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tweets on x or whatever really helps the offense out.

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Norm can get actions off that Norm missed a bucket.

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I think it was like the his first shot attempt

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of the game. I think it came off a small,

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small pick and roll with Doun as the screener and

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Hardness the ball handler. Norm kind of he skirted the basket.

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night Norm is gonna have. But that wrinkle that play

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design is so encouraging to see from Game one of

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this new starting lineup, so like Done is going to

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be asked to do a lot him and Batooma kind

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of like has to do so much for this team.

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to kind of grow and the actions we can get

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out of that, And especially with how well Derek Jones

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Junior shooting the ball, like there's not like the one

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guy you can sag off of right now on the

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Clippers starting lineup is Chris Dunn from a three point

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line because teams have been doing that. But a he's

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a willing shooter and he's not completely garbage at hitting

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threes right now, So like there's Tyler's gonna tinker with

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some of this stuff, and I'm really excited to see

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what this looks like like six to eight games from

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now with the new starting lineup.

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Speaker 5: And was this This was a team best in turnovers

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this game too.

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Speaker 3: Nine nine times.

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Speaker 6: The other thing is they took Chris Dunn out at

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about the six minute mark of the first quarter, so

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they still brought him back to start the second with

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the backup unit like they had been doing. Like Terrence

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Man was the different wrinkle in there. It was Chris Dunn,

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Norman Powell, Terrence Man, a Mere Coffee and Nico to

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start the second quarter, So they went small. Aviatcha Zubas

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wasn't out there. My thing was with last night they

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got crushed on the boards when they were big, So

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coach Leu was like, uh, guy it if we're not

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gonna get rebounds even when we're big, what are we

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doing here? I might as well go into a small

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ball lineup and try to juice up the offense, because

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was forty nine to twenty three. That was the board

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advantage by Houston, like, that's the unit. At the end

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of the game. I think they won the fourth quarter

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fifteen to fourteen on the boards. They actually got a

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little bit betterbe it was a disaster through three quarters

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of that game. So I don't blame coach Lou at

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all when people are saying why they go so small,

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why didn't Eve bring zoobots back in, I don't know,

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because he was bad yesterday. He had a bad game.

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Speaker 3: Game flow was not in Zoo's favor. He had two

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possessions in a row, he missed those free throws and

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then he missed a shot right at the rim, and

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then right after that, I think he scored four straight

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and they were in it, But then there was a

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seventeen to two run I think to bridge the end

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of the third into the fourth, and then they're down

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ten entering the fourth quarter and Coach Lou put in

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Jordan Miller. It's so funny, the same people that have

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Speaker 5: We when we were talking about last night, we thought

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him it was more of a depth test, like why

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not see what you got? Give these guys some minutes,

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give him, give him in a high lever situation. Charles

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Speaker 6: I thought Jordan Miller was solid. He had eight points

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and eight minutes. He had a couple of turnovers too,

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but he had what that crazy and one then he

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bullyed through Fred van Vliet. Yeah, I think he was good,

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like he earned another shot after this, even though he

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made some mistakes. Overall, he looked like Jordan Miller. And

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Speaker 5: I mean that that was impressive because I've kind of

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on Kobe Brown. That was that was a definitive step

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in the right direction for AE that needs power forward.

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Speaker 6: Size or small ball five Kobe Brown minutes. That's what

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they were testing. Out with him playing center, I guess,

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and what training camp. So maybe with Kai Jones seemingly

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shot against Houston tomorrow. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be the game tomorrow is like I'm

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because I guess I'm looking at the at the box score.

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he was upset with the game in Sacramento because we

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couldn't get like some in game rest for guys like Norm,

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not guys like for specifically James Harden and Norm Powell.

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which is light for what he's usually doing. So like

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they seem to have found some rest at the end

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of that game thanks to those thanks to those young

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guys matching the athleticism.

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Speaker 5: But I like, like against starters too.

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weren't watching, you know, like this wasn't garbage time minutes.

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four put the starters back in. Why they were bad?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 6: The backups got them back into it. Now you're going

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to pull them. There's a good way to lose.

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Speaker 3: The offer room.

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Speaker 6: Like, hey, you guys did all that work to get

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us back into this ball game, but now we're gonna

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take it from here, even though we put you in

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this bad spot to begin with.

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Speaker 3: And it would be against all of Like, this has

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been Tylo's best start to the season in terms of

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pulling strings. I think as a Clippers coach, he's not

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working with a lot, like in terms of roster compard

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to what he used to have. He's riding the hot hands.

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about to check in and then like things started going well,

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Norm was like maybe I shouldn't go in, and ty

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was like, great, fine, this is working. So this is great.

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him guys minutes restrictions, which he had at least once

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a couple seasons. Like I think, do you remember when

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when Doc used to have to like throw things at

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the wall because guys were hurt and we would all

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of a sudden see these rotations that were kind of

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weird and out there, but they worked, and it was

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like only when his back was against the wall was

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Doc rivers able to like really kind of manufacture these

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these working lineups. Tyler's already able to do that, and

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so it's really it goes back to that ethos that

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I think this team has, which is everyone's going to compete.

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So Tyler feels comfortable playing everybody, like even the rookies

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with eight minutes left in a game that's not out

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of hand.

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Speaker 6: I felt like it was also a message to the

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starters because that was the first game where you could

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definitely focus in and say, I don't know about the

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effort on some of these possessions here. We haven't really

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said that so far this season, but there were times

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where they were definitely being out worked, and I think

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you said enough, I'm going to find some energy. If

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I have to go on to the bench to find it,

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I'm going to do that. And they gave them a spark.

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They got them back in the game. They were down. Now,

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some of those guys helped them get down to nineteen,

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because I think there was a nine to zero run

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to start that fourth quarter. Yes, but then they got

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it down to four with a minute and a half left.

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I would dance with those guys to finish the game.

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I don't think you can go back to the starters

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like some people wanted to after they cut it down

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to four.

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Speaker 3: And they're cold, like you're gonna like you mentioned will

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you brought up to James Harden shooting? I think Toe Mayor.

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Speaker 6: It's so cold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's actually, I think we have the technology to

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do this. We can screen share this tweet by Tie

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Mayor showing Harden shooting. And look, James Harden is having

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to do a lot. These are not good percentages. He's

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shooting thirty seven percent in the first, fifteen percent in

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the second in six and a half minutes, forty three

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percent in the third, gets a little bit of rest

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after halftime, and then I mean, pfically fifty four percent

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overall on the fourth. But like these zones like this

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is not what you want to see. For those of

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you listening to this podcast, we're looking at a hardened

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shot chart, a lot of red, only two green areas,

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which is on all.

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Speaker 5: You one of them is three out of four, the

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other one of one.

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Speaker 3: Sure, but I mean anything else is like.

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Speaker 5: Either league average or below league average.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, what about this one stands out to me?

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It's the second quarter where he's shooting fifteen point nine

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percent from the field and ten point five percent from three.

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So I just ran the numbers. If you take out

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second quarters and just add up and then divide by

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three the percentages and field goal percentage without the second quarter,

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he's at forty five percent. If you do it with threes,

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he's at thirty five percent. That second quarter is completely

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taking his shooting percentages.

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Speaker 3: Tanking him.

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Speaker 6: How is it that bad?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. He's tired. I think it's a tired

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thing man. He's having to play. He's averaging eleven minutes

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in the first quarter, which in the.

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Speaker 6: Fourth he's shooting better.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know.

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Speaker 6: This is weird.

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Speaker 3: What gets me is this number right here at the rim,

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twenty eight of sixty four at the rim at the room,

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that is not Yes, he gets a lot of foul calls,

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but that is not That does not help the Clippers

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right now.

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Speaker 6: That seems like a lack of lift. He just doesn't

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have it at the room. Other than that one dunkey

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at off the Zuobots bounce past this season, I think

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it hasn't really been there.

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Speaker 7: So was there a hope of that improving or is

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that just I think the done switch helps a little bit, right,

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Like we got to revisit the Done switch in like

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ten games.

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Speaker 3: We'll look at these percentages. But if he's just not

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having to do as much, not that Done is going

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to come in and like oh he's kind of like

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the second point guard or anything like that, just giving

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him some relief. That second quarter is brutal. I wonder

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if Ty tries to adjust something with that, because like

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maybe bringing him later in the second, like so we

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can get his legs under him a bit.

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Speaker 6: But I don't know, if you take out the second

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quarter percentages, he's at forty five percent from the floor

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and thirty five percent from three. It's just it's killing

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his efficiency. How is it that bad in the second.

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Speaker 3: What's the Clippers plus minus in the second quarters?

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Speaker 6: I know they've had a ton of turnovers. I think

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they lead the league in turnovers where they were specifically

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in the second quarter. I think at one point it

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was almost at six turnovers per game in the second

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which is insane.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Clippers are averaging the third most points

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in the second quarter in the NBA, but.

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Speaker 6: The turnovers they're at five point one now, so second

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to last. Yeah, the five point one in one quarter

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is pretty crazy.

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Speaker 3: I think, which is also crazy because Harden's not playing

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a lot in those second quarters, hardened by this chart

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as playing average half of the second quarter. So is

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that minutes where he's just kicking the ball to the

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other team during those six minutes? Like, what are his

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turnovers in the second quarter?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, probably not great?

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Speaker 3: Probably that idea. So, I mean, I think the Doune change, like,

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I hope it fixes it. Like, again, the margins are thin,

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and if Harden's shooting fifteen percent in the second quarter,

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that's tough to overcome.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's weird to me. I wouldn't have thought the

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fourth quarter shooting improved where it's at fifty four percent.

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Crazy that kind of I don't know, there's something flukey

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going on because if he's more tired later, why is

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he shooting better. It still seems like the turnovers come

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in bunches sometimes though on the fourth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, he was good last night with the

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turnovers though, like that was everybody was, Yeah, he had one.

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Norm was the worst.

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Speaker 6: What did Norm have?

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Speaker 3: Three of the nine?

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Speaker 6: I guess Semen said eight of the nine turnovers were

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live ball turnovers.

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Speaker 3: That sounds about right.

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Speaker 6: Because they had like twenty four points off of those

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nine turnovers, which is a lot. Yeah, normally you get

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like a point per turnover.

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Speaker 3: They were doubling it up. That's a good segue actually,

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because we do need to talk about how the Rockets

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Speaker 5: Oh alrighty arts, All right, welcome back into Cliffs and Dip,

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your favorite basketball podcast about the Clippers. We talked about

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night one against Houston, and now we're looking ahead to Friday,

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where the Clippers are taking on the Rockets again in

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a little bit of a mini series. And Charles, you

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have some thoughts on this Rockets team that they might

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Oh no, that's right, man, you wrote the rundown.

479
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Speaker 3: I don't know this is.

480
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,319
Speaker 5: What you wrote.

481
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 3: Someone grabbed me out of the punging pit. I was

482
00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:43,240
just hurled into. No, so we saw it last night though, right,

483
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,960
Like they are an incredibly fast team, like just and

484
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,200
I don't mean like possession wise, I mean straight mphs.

485
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,359
Like we saw them blow by the Clippers on some

486
00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,119
transition buckets. They had eighteen offensive rebounds, which you're we're

487
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,599
not going to win a lot of games giving up

488
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:06,920
eighteen offensive rebounds, nineteen to six on second chance points. Again,

489
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,839
you look at how the Clippers played. They only turned

490
00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:12,480
the ball over nine times, Like that's half of their average,

491
00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:19,559
not even like not really any hyperbole there. And like

492
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,000
we got up ninety six shots against this Rockets team.

493
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,279
Speaker 6: How many free throws did they take in the game?

494
00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 3: Us are the Rockets the Clippers.

495
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,279
Speaker 6: To get up nineteen, so low turnover game, low free

496
00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:37,200
throw game, you end up getting up way more shots.

497
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, they and the Rockets got up ninety seven, which

498
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,559
kind of fits their average. But like they're just like

499
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,759
Tye said it right, like the young guy lineup was

500
00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:50,240
out there to combat the Rockets athleticism because the Clippers

501
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,400
don't have a full lineup of athleticism that can match

502
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,119
up with a team like the Rockets. We saw it

503
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,759
against when OKC went small, when they had to go

504
00:24:57,839 --> 00:25:01,599
small without Chet. That's a bunch of young athletic defensive

505
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,279
guys who make life incredibly difficult for a team like

506
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:09,400
the Clippers, who in the half court. A couple of

507
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,960
days ago, Shane Young posted this, the Clippers half court

508
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,640
offense of rating is like ninety two in the half court.

509
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,839
And when you play against a team like this, where

510
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,720
it's it's like Nats, there's arms everywhere, like there's you're

511
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,359
getting these weird double teams. They can bring guys off

512
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,839
the bench who can be really annoying offensively. It's just

513
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,799
like if the if, and when, because it's already happened,

514
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:37,440
the Clippers lose to a team like this. Sometimes I

515
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,799
think it's as simple as they're younger, they're faster, and

516
00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:47,079
they are incredibly dedicated to playing defense. Because young teams

517
00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:50,519
that are only dedicated to offense like the Raptors get

518
00:25:50,519 --> 00:25:53,000
beat by the Clippers because our defense is very good

519
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,200
and they're half courret and you know, but teams that

520
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,160
are committed to this defensive identity with their youth, that's

521
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,839
tough for the Clippers, especially when we you know, Norm

522
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,680
had enough game even hard and shot forty percent. Zoo

523
00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:07,759
was kind of taken out of the game. To your point, Adam,

524
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:13,359
like it's it's a big hill to climb before the

525
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,359
game's even started. And this is no disrespect towards the Clippers,

526
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,400
but like the Rockets are an incredibly athletic team. I

527
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,319
don't think anyone's gonna argue with me at that point.

528
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,519
Speaker 6: No, they're definitely a bad matchup for the Clippers. They're

529
00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:29,519
also just good. They're like a bad matchup for most teams.

530
00:26:29,559 --> 00:26:33,200
Same with OKC. If you have a defense that good,

531
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,000
you're probably gonna be a pretty solid team. They're eight

532
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:39,319
and four, and we said coming into this season, Rockets

533
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,759
on paper have the advantage over the Clippers. We knew

534
00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:43,240
this would be a head to head thing all season

535
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,599
long with that OKC pick swap, and they played each

536
00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:48,519
other four times and we were concerned about this. So

537
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,160
it's a huge game. It's a huge loss. They need

538
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,359
to get tomorrow Knight's game though, against them or else.

539
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,240
What happens if you get so far I'm just wondering,

540
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:00,960
just store this out there, if you get so far

541
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:06,039
behind Houston, does that alone trigger a domino effect with

542
00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:08,200
this Clippers team, with how they go about the rest

543
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,400
of the season, Because I think a big part of

544
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,000
this is trying to stay in front of the Houston

545
00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:14,599
rocke is to grab that first round picker hold on

546
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:14,920
to it.

547
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 3: I think that's a great point, Like if it's lost,

548
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,960
where it's like, well, we're definitely not going to have

549
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:21,640
this pick.

550
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 6: Does that usher in the youth movement? You know?

551
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,039
Speaker 3: I think it might like if we're not.

552
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 6: Getting the first round pick, we might as well start

553
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,640
developing guys. I don't know. Well, no, you guys talked

554
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,799
about Normal last night. I agree with you. At some

555
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,640
point they may be selling high on.

556
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 3: Norm if his value because what is it? We talked

557
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,640
about it before you start recording. It's December fifteenth, a lot.

558
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,880
When it triggers, a lot of guys can be traded,

559
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,440
maybe a PJ. Tucker trade, whatever the hell they're going

560
00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:54,400
to get for PJ. Tucker. But if I don't say what, PJ.

561
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,599
Speaker 5: Tucker is going out on his own. The only reason

562
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:58,920
they've held onto that contract is to have an extra

563
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,720
twelve million dollars flexibility.

564
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, Yeah, I don't know. I think you're

565
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,079
right out of it. I think that brings in, like

566
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,400
at the trade at post All Star break, if the

567
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,400
Clippers are not within striking distance and not playing well

568
00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:22,400
and we still have no idea about Kawhi's return at all.

569
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 6: Okay, here's the thing. The third game against Houston in

570
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,799
December eighth. Damn what if by then they're five or

571
00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:32,319
six games back against Houston they lose all three?

572
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 3: Not ideal. I don't feel good. Then Jordan Miller's probably

573
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,680
averaging nine minutes per game.

574
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 6: The last game against them is April ninth.

575
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,799
Speaker 3: Ooh, so probably during a possibly inconsequential time of the

576
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,599
season for the Clippers.

577
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:52,759
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not saying the Clippers are giving up

578
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:54,920
on the season this earlier or anything like that, and

579
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,519
they could still play above five hundred and play above

580
00:28:57,559 --> 00:28:59,720
their heads. And Norman Palell has been cooking. He's had

581
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:02,160
one game, He's due for a bounce back on Friday.

582
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,559
I'm just saying what happens if they keep losing to

583
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:08,559
Houston and Houston just takes off and it doesn't look

584
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:09,920
like that pick swaps happening.

585
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:12,599
Speaker 3: I think we see some moves made, and I think

586
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:14,799
we see a lot more young guys. One thing that

587
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:17,839
I think helps that is before that youth lineup came

588
00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:22,960
in the bench scoring, KPJ picked up three fouls very

589
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,880
quickly in like five minutes of play. And if he's

590
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,759
not able to score, we saw what that bench looks

591
00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:32,720
like without someone like KPJ. They were getting out scored

592
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:36,680
like forty to twelve at one point from the bench against.

593
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:38,839
Speaker 5: This Is that a season low minutes wise for him too?

594
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: I mean it has to be just in like I would.

595
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:44,839
I don't have it off the top of my head.

596
00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 6: But there's six minutes or something right.

597
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: Five forty seven during a very rough run in which

598
00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:54,559
he was minus eleven. Not his fault because plus minus

599
00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:59,359
is a lineup stat and maybe a defensive stat, but

600
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,279
he just he didn't have it because it happens.

601
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 6: And Easton and Thompson nuke dude. So it was a

602
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,000
combination of bad things. Their bench not doing much, Houston's

603
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:13,480
bench really taking off.

604
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,119
Speaker 3: Two double doubles off the bench for Houston, almost two

605
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,880
twenty and ten double doubles off the bench for two

606
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,400
guys who had eighteen and ten and eighteen and eleven.

607
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,880
Like the Clippers aren't getting that from anyone on the bench.

608
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,079
Speaker 6: The thing is that new Clippers starting lineup went plus

609
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:31,839
fifteen and seventeen minutes. Yeah, I mean Jen Gouon was

610
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:34,200
a minus eighteen out there, Fred van Vliet minus ten,

611
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:38,400
Jalen Green minus ten, Jabari Smith Junior minus three. They

612
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,559
their starters were doing okay against Houston starters, but the

613
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:45,200
backups came in and they have backups that could be

614
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,599
starting in certain places, Like they have such depth, Like

615
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:50,160
there's combinations you can go to. I mean, Cam Whitmore

616
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,160
was sent to the G League just because we don't

617
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,319
have playing time for you right now.

618
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, Will, What do you think happens on Friday?

619
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:00,759
Like what adjustments can you say see other than of

620
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:04,319
course starting Jordan Miller, you start Kobe Brown, Uh, what

621
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:06,920
other adjustments can that can entily make for this game

622
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:07,559
on Friday.

623
00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:11,119
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess we're gonna learn a lot about

624
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:13,480
this team in that second quarter, Like when when the

625
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:18,079
when the starters have their second stint, what exactly does

626
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:21,240
that look like? Because I think that, you know, we

627
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,200
from a very limited sample size. I like the change

628
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,279
to the starting lineup. I think they have the capability

629
00:31:28,319 --> 00:31:31,000
to give Houston a really hard time on the defensive end.

630
00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:36,400
And yeah, well we'll just have We'll just have to see.

631
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,400
But I think that second stint is going to say

632
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,480
a lot about where the state of this team is,

633
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:45,960
especially with the starters getting some rest, certainly to end

634
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,079
this game and then a little bit of time in between,

635
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:51,000
which hasn't you know, hasn't exactly been a luxury. But

636
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,960
if Harden and Norm are both as cold as they have, like,

637
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:01,720
well Norm, Norm's coldness is it's shorter. But as as

638
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:04,200
much as Harden has been a Norm, we get the

639
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,880
same Norm we've gotten the last couple of games. I yeah,

640
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,880
I think it's going to be more of the same.

641
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, the nine turnovers and losing a game where the

642
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:17,960
Clippers get nine turnovers at this point in the season,

643
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:21,400
I'm pretty salty about if I'm being totally honest, I know, but.

644
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:26,079
Speaker 5: Look at everything else, like we got out revised seventeen boards,

645
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:29,720
like the second chance points, like we lost we lost

646
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,440
a lot in this We.

647
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,839
Speaker 3: No, we did lose a lot. I get that, But like, man,

648
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,480
if we turn the ball over less than ten times

649
00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:39,559
on Friday and lose again, which might happen, like a,

650
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,599
I will be shocked if we turn the ball over

651
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,799
less than ten times on Friday, I don't think I.

652
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:50,079
Speaker 6: Feel Houston also hit fifteen threes on forty takes. They

653
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:53,079
had been shooting thirty one percent from three on the season,

654
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,240
and they went thirty eight percent on high volume.

655
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,759
Speaker 5: That was a rough classic.

656
00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: Then we hit fourteen on thirty eight. We were shot.

657
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,039
Speaker 6: Slippers weren't bad. The Clippers start off seven of ten

658
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:04,559
though as a thing, Yeah, Houston was six of nine

659
00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:06,440
and the Clipper is still led by eleven in that

660
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,039
first quarter.

661
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:13,799
Speaker 3: Somehow, do we think, what's the adjustment for Zoo right?

662
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:16,359
Because he was not very good, as you.

663
00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:20,039
Speaker 6: Yet him effing involved early and often are you're going

664
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:22,799
to lose the game. It is not an option whether

665
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,920
or not to get dubots involved. You have to get

666
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,039
him involved. Some of them it's definitely on him, of

667
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:31,480
course totally. I understand you're hot from three to start

668
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:33,759
and so it makes sense to go away from him.

669
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:37,519
But after that, I think they needed they needed to

670
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,680
be more cognitizant of the fact that if they don't

671
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,480
have high pick and roll going with James Harden and

672
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,279
to beat to Zubots. To me, this team gets even

673
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:47,119
more lost offensively. That is the bread and butter, that

674
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,400
is their foundation. It's it's a requirement, it's a non negotiable.

675
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:54,599
You have to go to Zubots. It doesn't mean you're

676
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:57,119
always going to win, but you're probably definitely going to

677
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,000
lose if you don't get him involved.

678
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Will brought up a good point last night that

679
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:07,839
like Zoo has to be efficient because he's only going

680
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,920
to get so many looks. Yeah he's not.

681
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, he's barely getting found even when

682
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,079
he's having these great stretches. So if it's rough to

683
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:19,760
start and the threes are falling, I mean he's he's

684
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,320
not going to get a lot of looks. And the

685
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,320
issue is, like, you know, his game is just so

686
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,039
dependent on everyone else, Like whether that's you know, whoever

687
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:31,960
is ball handling noticing him or you know whatever the

688
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,280
coaches want to go with. From a from like a

689
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,480
play an next and zero perspective. So it's it's difficult

690
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,519
because I don't know. I don't know what more he

691
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:45,079
can do, you know, like, I'm not sure what he

692
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,559
can do to rectify that situation other than efficient.

693
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,639
Speaker 3: Wear a T shirt that says, give me the ball

694
00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:52,280
to every game.

695
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 6: I make the joke the Keithshawn Johnson both just give

696
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,000
me the damn ball with the viats of Zoo bots

697
00:34:57,039 --> 00:34:59,280
his head on it. I want to go back to

698
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,840
the Spurs game. Zoo was not efficient to start. They

699
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,679
kept going to him, and eventually it pulled through and

700
00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:06,800
helped them win the ball game late. That's what the

701
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,639
blueprint should be always. It's just you're not gonna win

702
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,400
games if eatsa Zubas is getting up eight shots very

703
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,320
often anymore, it's not happening. I think he took three

704
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,079
shots in the first half and then had four shots

705
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:22,519
by midway through the third quarter. Now I understand why

706
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:25,679
they went small. Zoo was doing his party either. The

707
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,000
rebounding was atrocious. They were down by twenty five boards

708
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,719
at one point. The free throw differential was that in

709
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,079
the third quarter. So some of it's on a visa Zubas,

710
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,159
But I just I feel like early on you have

711
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,719
to try to get him going. It is imperative.

712
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the other thing that worries me about the

713
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,920
center corps, which I've been having sleepless nights over since

714
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,519
the season started. A. I love Niko Batum. He is

715
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,000
very good for the Clippers team. Yet again he is

716
00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:00,679
being well. We talked about this. He was asked to

717
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,079
do a lot for the Clippers, then he left, went

718
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:07,159
to Philly. Now he's back. He didn't really leave, you

719
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:11,679
know what I mean. He went to Philly. Now he's

720
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,719
back and he's asked to do almost even more. He's

721
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,119
our backup center and he is and I don't mean

722
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:21,400
this disrespectfully. He is too old to be playing backup

723
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,119
center for a team, right Like we already have an

724
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:28,079
empty roster spot in PJ. Tucker. We can't have another

725
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:32,320
empty roster spot between our actual centers who play backup center.

726
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,199
Speaker 5: Well, Obama is on assignment, so he is near he

727
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,679
should be. He is nearing hell for sure, but we

728
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,400
need like to get because that's kind of a wild

729
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,880
card that I would have liked to have been able

730
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,199
to take a look at in last night's.

731
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: Game as a younger team like that, Yeah, like, what.

732
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 5: Does Bomba look like out there? We know, I mean,

733
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,400
we're still getting killed on the on the boards obviously,

734
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,159
but uh, it's an interesting enough variable that I'm I'm curious.

735
00:36:57,199 --> 00:36:58,199
I wish we could have seen it.

736
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 3: We have to look at it.

737
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 6: What about Kobe tomorrow? Back up five minutes.

738
00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 3: Why not he was beasted on the boards.

739
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,039
Speaker 6: He brought some brute How.

740
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,159
Speaker 5: Early would you be willing to bring him in second quarter?

741
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: As soon as the rebounds, if we're getting smoked on

742
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:18,039
the rebounds, if they're putting, if they're on pace for

743
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:23,920
another almost twenty offensive rebounding game. They had almost sixty

744
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,719
boards in this game.

745
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 6: Geez, it was like, now, they're a great rebounding team

746
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,400
and the Clippers had a bad night there, but overall,

747
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:35,199
they have absolutely out kicked expectation for rebounding.

748
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:42,039
Speaker 3: Which hopefully that hopefully, these those first eleven games weren't the.

749
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 6: Anomaly and the regression is coming hard and swift right now.

750
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:49,519
Speaker 3: I don't know, well, against teams like the Rockets, it

751
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:52,840
looks like that right, because they just run by us

752
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,320
and that type of thing. I yeah, I don't know

753
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,519
how I feel about tomorrow night. I don't know necessarily

754
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:04,920
feel great. But I also think I mean, KPJ only

755
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,360
playing five minutes puts a strain on stuff just because

756
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,280
of the foul trouble. And Ty was like, it's not

757
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,000
your night. I guess do you think that's what it is?

758
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 6: Just not his night? Or do you think he could

759
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,639
be going a different direction sooner than later?

760
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,639
Speaker 3: Because what was he the game before? Let me look

761
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:18,920
up his stats the game before.

762
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:21,559
Speaker 6: I think he had some decent run.

763
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,199
Speaker 3: He was He had nine points, he shot fifty like

764
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:24,519
he was.

765
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:26,119
Speaker 5: That was like one of his better games. That was

766
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:27,599
like maybe his best game.

767
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 3: The Raptors game he had fifteen, and then the Thunder

768
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,519
he had nine one and two Raptors he had fifty.

769
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:35,480
He's only two games removed from his best game as

770
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:35,960
a Clipper.

771
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 6: But I was just surprised he didn't play it all

772
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,039
in the second half, right, No, I was a little

773
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:44,039
bit surprised by that.

774
00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:47,199
Speaker 3: Well, because also we've talked about like take the offensive

775
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:49,719
out of take the offense out of it. He hasn't

776
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,199
been a liability on defense, and he's been crashing the boards,

777
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,559
which is two things that the team talked about needing

778
00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:56,360
the guards to do. So it's like.

779
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,519
Speaker 5: He's just such a ballstopper though on the offensive end,

780
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:03,480
like like nobody else is getting involved. And again, like

781
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,159
like we've talked about it in the past, it's not

782
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,679
like he's surrounded by like elite offensive when he's.

783
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: Out there on the floor.

784
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 5: I totally get that. I totally get that, but it

785
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:13,960
does kind of gum things up and slow things down.

786
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,880
And if he's not, you know, if he doesn't have

787
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,639
it that night, like, you know, I get that he's not.

788
00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:22,199
He's not. He's definitely not a liability defensively, but like,

789
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,280
is it worth still sticking it out when he's you know,

790
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,480
even if it's not his night, he's still getting tunnel

791
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:29,800
vision for the basket every time the ball was in

792
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,280
his hands.

793
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:33,599
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I don't. And I don't blame coach lou

794
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:35,440
for having a short leash in a game with Kevin

795
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,400
Porter Junior. I was just surprised how short it was.

796
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:40,199
Speaker 5: Oh, I agree, one hundred.

797
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 6: He's in Houston. I thought maybe I know the foul

798
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,440
trouble was something, and I think his minutes got tanked

799
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,679
pretty quickly too, And maybe he took a really bad

800
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,000
three pointer, like one of his really really bad shots,

801
00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:55,679
and coach Lou said enough. Maybe he thought he was

802
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:57,880
trying to do too much against his former team. I

803
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,960
don't know. I just you from playing a decent amount

804
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,360
of minutes. Coach who says he's sticking with these rotations took.

805
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 3: He took one shot in this game three, and I hold,

806
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,199
I want to make sure I'm right he took. This

807
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,639
is killing me. He took one shot in his game

808
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,440
and it was a three, but I bet it was

809
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,800
probably with like, if I had to guess based on

810
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,760
his tendencies, I bet there was double digits left on

811
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,719
the shot clock, and I bet he brought the ball

812
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,639
over saw the matchup, took a bad three, and Ty

813
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,559
was like, dude, we talked about this yesterday and he

814
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:43,320
had three fouls. He was fouling the ship out of

815
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:49,679
the rocket. But again, if he's not scoring, maybe it's

816
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:52,320
the Jordans. Maybe we talked about going to Kobe Brown early.

817
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,519
Maybe if KPJ has another stinker, all the Jordan miller

818
00:40:56,559 --> 00:40:59,360
heads get the crack open their their Miller time.

819
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 6: There is that what we're entering a new phase. We're

820
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,639
ties quicker to go to the young guys. Now, okay,

821
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:09,960
here we go, we're not playing well, I'm going to it.

822
00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:11,320
Is that what we saw the other night.

823
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: I think it's the building blocks of that because it

824
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,480
is Tyloo right, like we had we had eleven games

825
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,320
of a starting lineup that was minus ten. But like

826
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,559
Will was saying yesterday, like they didn't do anything in

827
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:23,880
that game.

828
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,159
Speaker 6: They did.

829
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: The only things they did the Jordan Miller Covey Rounds

830
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,119
specifically did in that game was showed that they should

831
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:30,800
probably get some more looks.

832
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 6: They were good and I liked it next to a

833
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,000
mirror and Terrence Man, I didn't think Bones was great,

834
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,199
but I don't think it was bad either.

835
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,119
Speaker 3: It was kind of just like, eh, this is just

836
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:43,519
who he is at this point, I think, and it

837
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:44,239
bums me out.

838
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 6: It was better than inconsequential minutes Bones. It wasn't that,

839
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,159
you know, there was something on the line.

840
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: We hadn't even talked about how good Terrence looked off

841
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:56,079
the bench.

842
00:41:56,599 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 6: Terrence was a menace. I can't believe that guy. Did

843
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,960
you hearst game? He said something to the effect that

844
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,280
I'm glad I got my guy back.

845
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well what was Uh Well, give Adam your take

846
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,119
on what we should do with Terrence Mayn because I

847
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:10,239
think I think, Oh, I.

848
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,599
Speaker 5: Just think at this point in his career, like you

849
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:16,400
know what he's had to be through, Like he's just

850
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,880
so much more comfortable being uncomfortable, like when there's some

851
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:23,960
sort of unpredictability and chaos into when his minutes are

852
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,559
what unit he plays with, hell, what position he plays.

853
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,119
I think that brings the best out of Terrence. He's

854
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:32,800
a guy who can really adapt to a situation. And

855
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,400
I think maybe he was a little too in his

856
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,760
own head with the starters. I'm not really sure what

857
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,559
was going on there, but he was far more aggressive.

858
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,280
It was like a night and day difference.

859
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:42,559
Speaker 2: Uh.

860
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,679
Speaker 3: Well, he caught an oop from Chris Dunn that is insane.

861
00:42:48,039 --> 00:42:50,679
Speaker 6: He had that wrap around pass to Jordan Miller who

862
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,920
missed the layup in the fourth and then he tipped

863
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,679
it in the hustle and the precision with that pass

864
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,719
was incredible.

865
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:01,559
Speaker 3: Bench Terrence, We're here for it, but we'll see what

866
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:04,360
happens on Friday. What's your I don't have this in

867
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,679
the rundown fucking busy day. Who's who are our player

868
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,199
of the game picks for Friday, and then we'll talk

869
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,039
about the back to back.

870
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 6: Are any players available that weren't previously? Anyone played bad

871
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:19,719
enough to get back in.

872
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: No, you can't pick Zoo, you can't pick Hard, and

873
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:25,280
you can't pick Norm. You can pick Kawhi.

874
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,159
Speaker 5: If you really believe, unless you're gonna, unless you're gonna

875
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:31,360
boldly pick that. James Harden will have a better than

876
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,159
fifty percent field goal percentage now, and you can pick

877
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:34,800
James Harden.

878
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 6: This is an interesting wrinkle.

879
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: When is the last time he shot over fifty percent

880
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:39,440
for the Clippers?

881
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 6: Was it Game one?

882
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,039
Speaker 3: I'm looking up the game logs right now and I

883
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:49,400
would not be surprised if it's Game one.

884
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:50,639
Speaker 6: And maybe it was that one of the two.

885
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 3: It's only been one. Uh, the twenty six point comeback

886
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:58,840
against the Spurs. He shot sixty. He took ten.

887
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:03,079
Speaker 6: Shots, already hot last night and then it faded.

888
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 5: That second corner man. It's brutal, it's a killer.

889
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. So if he's only shot over fifty percent one

890
00:44:10,679 --> 00:44:14,639
time this season, trouble game.

891
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 5: So you can pick that, but it's with that copyat yes,

892
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:19,280
you can pick Harden, but it's with that copy.

893
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 6: You only win if he shoots over fifty Yeah.

894
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,039
Speaker 5: Otherwise you have to sit in the corner.

895
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 6: At the end of blair Witch exactly.

896
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 3: Man, that's a DVD. I need to buy it, damn out.

897
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,480
Now I'm off tracking about DVDs, Adam, who's your pick

898
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,320
for playing game?

899
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,199
Speaker 6: I kind of like to live dangerously. I think I

900
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,920
want James Harden goinge above fifty percent, and if not,

901
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,400
I'll start the next podcast right in this corner here.

902
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,719
It's a nice corner. Look at this place. You can

903
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,599
hang out today.

904
00:44:57,119 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: I still do he is incredibly do Will Who is

905
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,840
your pick for the James Harden less than fifty percent?

906
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,039
Norm Powell of eats the zoo Box Kawhi Leonard ceremonial

907
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,039
key to the City player of the game.

908
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,639
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Terrence. I think he's gonna keep it running.

909
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,480
I think that you know him in a cup situation

910
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:25,119
with a Terrence a weird side of like cup players

911
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:28,440
last night, and I could see we didn't mention Terrence,

912
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,760
but I could see Terrence being a cup guy. So

913
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,280
I'm gonna go with Terrence. I like this new position.

914
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,760
I like that he's still engaged. She's in no way

915
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,679
hanging his head, and I think that we're gonna see

916
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,199
a great aggressive Terrence once again.

917
00:45:41,679 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 3: I think that's a great point too, because everyone who

918
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,360
was like doesn't like Terrence man now or whatever, you

919
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,639
can never argue that the man does not play hard

920
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:50,199
no matter.

921
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 5: There's some chatter in the comments last night if people

922
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,239
just wanted to trade him, like people are done with Terrence. Yeah,

923
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:56,039
I don't know.

924
00:45:56,199 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: My favorite take is like, his contract looks really bad now,

925
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,159
and I'm like, what, No, it does not. It's a

926
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,800
very tradable contract. If you don't like Darren's man, if

927
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,239
there's one thing you should like, it's that his contract

928
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,519
is movable. Yeah.

929
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,079
Speaker 6: Well, as he gets back to playing anything near what

930
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:15,159
he's done throughout most of his career, it's a very

931
00:46:15,199 --> 00:46:16,159
tradable contract.

932
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: Guys, I am going I haven't looked at his numbers

933
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,159
in the NBA Cup from last year. I'm going Dereck Jones.

934
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,360
I know I've been harping on Derek Jones.

935
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 6: Clippers make the Cup last year.

936
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:37,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I'm going Derek Jones Junior. He was good

937
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:40,440
against the Rockets last night, four for six, he was

938
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,880
plus four. I think he's benefiting playing against done two.

939
00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:47,960
I think we're gonna see cup Dereck Jones Junior go

940
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,199
crazy on the rockets, and by crazy I mean seventeen

941
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:55,840
points four boards two sweet oops, that's nice.

942
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,599
Speaker 5: Who's your MVPC Most Valuable or MVCP Most Valuable Cup Player?

943
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: Oh? Most Valuable Cup Player? Oh Nico. European players live

944
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:09,320
for Cups. They're used to it. They were born into

945
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,519
the Cup world. So I'm Nico by a mile. Maybe Zoo,

946
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You're you're all over the place.

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Speaker 6: Man, pick Zoo and cup play.

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Speaker 3: Well, this was for the Cup.

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Speaker 5: If he's the MVCP, sure, MVCP man.

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00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:32,159
Speaker 3: What it rolls off the tongue? I hope the NBA

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starts using that. There's a company that I work with

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at my job that abbreviates itself as CP, and I

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had to be like, you guys need to stop doing.

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You can't be branding yourself as CP. All right. Coming up,

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you guys, and the Clippers have a back to back

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coming up Sunday Monday at into It Dome, where I

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know it's gonna be more full. After the comments by

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Paul George, people are like, Okay, Paul, we see you.

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You're gonna talk that trash. We're gonna fill up the

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endo A Dome now are.

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Speaker 5: Still pretty pricey, I will say too. Yeah, new arena

988
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,599
like on the on the secondhand market, compared to what

989
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:39,000
we've seen in years past, in my experience.

990
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Speaker 6: Is the nicest arena ever so far. Right, all right,

991
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:51,239
So Sunday, Utah in town, first matchup against them, big

992
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,519
game for the Clippers, as they all are, but specifically

993
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:56,119
when you're playing a team that on paper you are

994
00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:58,840
better than that, you have a real opportunity to get

995
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,039
a victory against. When Coach Luke talked about that Raptors

996
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:04,000
game at the end and not wanting to play guys

997
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,519
heavy minutes but feeling like that was a winnable game

998
00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:08,760
is how he said it. This is another one of

999
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,440
those where guys will have to expand more energy if

1000
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,719
they don't handle business early on to try to get

1001
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,960
that game, which I do like hearing, like they know

1002
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:19,639
coming into this season, which games are very winnable, that

1003
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:23,199
they have to get the must win games against lesser competition.

1004
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:24,800
I think Utah qualifies.

1005
00:50:25,159 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, but without falling into the trap of like playing

1006
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,440
a team's record, because we have seen the Clippers do

1007
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:31,400
that time and time again.

1008
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was looking at these Jazz stats. Haven't caught

1009
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,320
a lot of Jazz games. They are.

1010
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,039
Speaker 5: They are dead last in the Western Conference.

1011
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: They are dead last in a lot of things, dead

1012
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,880
last and field goal percentage and offensive rating dead last,

1013
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,079
and turnover percentage and turnovers twenty ninth and points twenty

1014
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:49,480
seventh in defensive.

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00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 6: Rating, thirtieth in place to live.

1016
00:50:53,360 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Utah sucks the Beehive State. You freak. Yeah,

1017
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,159
this is like I don't know what to say. And

1018
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,239
if you've been watching this Clippers team for the last

1019
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,920
X amount of years, we don't want to let down.

1020
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,719
We don't want any of the bullshit. Don't turn the

1021
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,599
ball over seventeen times. Don't give this team a glimmer

1022
00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:22,360
of hope. The wall is going to be doing their

1023
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,760
thing I hope, but like, this is a team I

1024
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,920
don't know if, like I don't know if this Clippers

1025
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,760
team is built to like stomp any team out just

1026
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,119
without streaky things can be. But if the Clippers win

1027
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:37,880
by fifteen, that is like any other team winning by

1028
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,000
twenty five. Is kind of how I feel about this

1029
00:51:40,119 --> 00:51:44,360
Clippers team. And it's a game for Norman Harden to

1030
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,480
get off early, you know, like hopefully, Like maybe it's

1031
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,360
a game where the young guys get some run if

1032
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,960
things are going well. But it's also a game, Adam

1033
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,119
to your point about that whole better record than the

1034
00:51:57,199 --> 00:52:00,880
Rockets thing that they cannot afford to lose.

1035
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:04,159
Speaker 6: Could be a get right game if things don't go

1036
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,599
well tomorrow in Houston, you know. And it's the front

1037
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,280
end of it back to back, so even more of

1038
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,360
a reason or even more motivation to handle your business

1039
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:13,639
and get guys rest.

1040
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 3: And the Jazz are on the second out of a

1041
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,320
back to back. I like that too. I don't know, Well,

1042
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,880
what what could you see going wrong?

1043
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 5: Turnover? Yeah, just a bunch of turnovers letting this team

1044
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:30,519
back into the game. And that's you know, that's what

1045
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:34,400
we've seen when playing like quote unquote lesser competition. Turnovers

1046
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,800
killed them in that Trailblazers game.

1047
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 3: Uh.

1048
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:40,119
Speaker 5: And it's just not good. It's not it's not good behavior.

1049
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 6: M I can tell you what I can.

1050
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 5: Made things a little, made things a little too spicy

1051
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,239
in the Raptors game.

1052
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: It's not good behavior. It's the best way to describe

1053
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:56,039
turning the ball over too much. It's rotten, Adam, Sorry,

1054
00:52:56,119 --> 00:52:56,519
go ahead.

1055
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,639
Speaker 6: Now. The worst thing I could see happening is John

1056
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,159
Collin goes for twenty five and twelve and all we

1057
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,480
get is a bunch of trade for John Collins stuff.

1058
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:05,599
The very next day.

1059
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,639
Speaker 5: We got that available. Come to fifteen.

1060
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, can I just think about can I underst you

1061
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:16,280
in one very fresh PJ Tucker did John Collins thing.

1062
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,239
I'm like, maybe he just isn't good enough to play

1063
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,280
for teams that are contenders. I don't mean that districtfully

1064
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,039
to John Collins. He's bounced like it's just it is

1065
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:27,639
what it is.

1066
00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 6: He's their leading scorer right now, not Marketing, not Sexton,

1067
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,840
and he's actually shooting fifty two percent from the field

1068
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:37,480
and thirty eight percent from three on three attempts per game.

1069
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:40,320
But they're awful.

1070
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:47,159
Speaker 3: He's Also, he is point four points ahead of Lori

1071
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,760
Marketen for points per game.

1072
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 6: I just didn't expect I mean marketing. I expected to

1073
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,719
get twenty two plus a game. He's at what seventeen?

1074
00:53:56,159 --> 00:53:59,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Cavante George is your Cante George is taking

1075
00:53:59,039 --> 00:54:01,559
the most field goal attemps. This team is broken, but

1076
00:54:01,679 --> 00:54:04,280
this team has got Collin Sexon is very annoying to

1077
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,360
play against. Right, Like we've watched Jordan Clarkson torchs this

1078
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:14,719
team before. There's some bugaboots with this Jazz team.

1079
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 6: This says real trap potential. I don't think this mad, honestly.

1080
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,400
You look at their roster the way they started the

1081
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,000
last two seasons hot with a lot of the same guys,

1082
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:25,639
but this year they're starting so slow.

1083
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 3: Thankfully, after a potential trap game, they get to play

1084
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,199
the Warriors, who are nine to two and have two

1085
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,679
days of rest before playing the Clippers and our top

1086
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,760
five in offensive and defensive rating. The Warriors win is

1087
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,599
looking like the best win on the Clippers record right

1088
00:54:41,639 --> 00:54:43,400
now by quite a bit.

1089
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,639
Speaker 6: Dane Young was right, I don't know about.

1090
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 3: That, Will. What are you looking for in this Warriors game? Sorry?

1091
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,719
What big win?

1092
00:54:59,599 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 7: Win?

1093
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:02,639
Speaker 3: Thanks?

1094
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:03,039
Speaker 6: Coach?

1095
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 3: You're the coach where they have You're the coach where

1096
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,440
they have to have team meetings every three weeks because

1097
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,960
they're like, dude, he's just telling us to go out

1098
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:16,800
there and win. There's noos. Sorry, I trust my guys.

1099
00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 6: You know.

1100
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 3: This is this is a team that is hitting a

1101
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,960
different stride than when we played them earlier in the year.

1102
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:30,519
Steph is still Steph. He's rejuvenated from taking Clay Thompson's

1103
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:34,480
manna uh in Dallas Phoenix down.

1104
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1105
00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 3: They turned the ball over a town the last time

1106
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,360
we played him twenty one times. We killed them. We

1107
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,960
beat them in second chance points.

1108
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 6: Buddy had a really bad game against Clips.

1109
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's been not having bad games since then.

1110
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,760
They're sixth in pace. They take the fourth most free

1111
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,599
throw at types per game. We got to take care

1112
00:55:56,599 --> 00:55:59,960
of business on Sunday, is what this game is telling me.

1113
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,119
Speaker 6: Win tomorrow, beat Utah. See what happens against the Warriors

1114
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:07,719
and you're five hundred at least.

1115
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 3: We're right back at it, baby, like we never left.

1116
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:16,760
Do we think I mean, is Mobaba gonna get called

1117
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,400
up before this back to back? Do we think he

1118
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,280
looks good in the for the SD Clips.

1119
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 6: My guess is he plays in one of those games.

1120
00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 3: I mean we might. We're gonna need it, man, like

1121
00:56:27,039 --> 00:56:29,519
getting back to my Nico. But tone point can't ye.

1122
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:33,119
Speaker 5: I mean he's he's good to go, like there's no

1123
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:37,199
concern of reinjury, and he's even like seventy. I think

1124
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,440
it's it's time to introduce him to some some some

1125
00:56:41,559 --> 00:56:42,440
big team minutes.

1126
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Jazz would be a nice team to get

1127
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,679
Mobamba back for. I say, on Thursday.

1128
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:53,039
Speaker 6: Night, Oh, somebody's gonna stop John Collins. I'm irrationally confident.

1129
00:56:54,519 --> 00:56:58,159
I'm irrationally intrigued by Mobiba. I should not be as

1130
00:56:58,199 --> 00:57:01,440
interested as i I am and what he could be

1131
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,519
as a clipper because he's playing a lot of minutes

1132
00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:06,119
in the NBA, but he's still twenty six. I'm like,

1133
00:57:06,159 --> 00:57:09,239
got that three point shooting, it's kind of interesting. Is

1134
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:10,320
there more potential there?

1135
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:14,199
Speaker 3: The three point shooting is interesting. It's the defense and

1136
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,519
the lack of any reliable post move. I understand the intrigue.

1137
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:20,079
I watched way I dove way too deep into the

1138
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:21,760
mobile possibilities.

1139
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,519
Speaker 6: Did you think about the play for Jeff Van Gundy's

1140
00:57:26,519 --> 00:57:27,159
do you hate him?

1141
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 5: Mobima?

1142
00:57:31,159 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 9: Does?

1143
00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:34,239
Speaker 3: I did not. Actually, that is an incredibly good point.

1144
00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 5: Mobamba has a lot of people who hate him.

1145
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,159
Speaker 3: Yes, every time we post about him on the Clippers Pod,

1146
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:46,440
there's like a flood of replies. We're like two bad

1147
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,960
he sucks ass, And I'm.

1148
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 6: Like, whoa those Kai Jones fans or yeah, yeah they're all.

1149
00:57:53,559 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 3: They're all kai Jones fans. People are just like, my

1150
00:57:56,599 --> 00:58:00,719
expectations are very low, and I'm like, look, it's what

1151
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,199
are we expecting here, Like, just soak up eight and

1152
00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:08,119
a half minutes. We're not I'm not asking him to

1153
00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:11,320
come out and crush I think we said then, we

1154
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,039
say that if his stat line was like four and

1155
00:58:14,199 --> 00:58:16,800
two and eight minutes, we'd all be pretty okay with that.

1156
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,239
Speaker 5: Look man, with Kai out of the rotation seemingly, uh,

1157
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,079
we don't know if that's permanent, but we need something

1158
00:58:26,159 --> 00:58:28,400
there and it doesn't even have to be exceptional.

1159
00:58:28,599 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 3: It just has to be not that not garbage is

1160
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:35,199
what we're looking for. And I don't mean that it

1161
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,159
sounds very disrespectful. I understand that. I don't mean it disrespectful.

1162
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,559
Speaker 6: What if serviceable is the new exceptional?

1163
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's a backup center. You

1164
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:49,320
guys like it's not you know, I don't I don't

1165
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,960
know why why the Clippers like continually fumble on this,

1166
00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:54,440
but like it doesn't need to be. You know, you

1167
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,639
don't need to reinvent the wheel here. You need a

1168
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,840
seven foot guy to soak up some minutes. I mean

1169
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,119
it's great, Yeah, exactly. You need a big body on

1170
00:59:03,199 --> 00:59:05,239
the floor for a gob of minutes. I don't know

1171
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,880
why we get some of these guys who are negative rebounders,

1172
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,800
and I don't know, I don't know, but I'm hoping

1173
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,199
that we can just get yeah, serviceable minutes.

1174
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,199
Speaker 6: I could see them being fine without Mobamba against Golden State,

1175
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,360
but like you guys said, against Utah, that could be

1176
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a good game to get him reacclimated.

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Speaker 3: Don't make Nico play like fifteen minutes of backup center

1178
00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:31,280
against the Jazz. You shouldn't have to. I know this

1179
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:34,480
Clippers team, although some are saying it is our year,

1180
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:38,679
we also have discussed that seating doesn't matter for that.

1181
00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:44,360
So this is a tee that's Will's take. This is

1182
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,079
a team where it's like, this is not a team

1183
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:50,239
that the Clippers should be like stressing over and Mobama

1184
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,719
should get some minutes, Jordan Miller should get some minutes,

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and then Monday we'll see what happens against the Warriors.

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We are debuting in New Jersey, which is fun on Sunday.

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The city.

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Speaker 6: Can't lose in the new jerseys, No, and the Cord

1189
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come on. I love those live blue jerseys, honestly, I

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01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:09,760
love those ones. Yeah.

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01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,559
Speaker 3: Someone on Twitter was like, I wish they wouldn't have

1192
01:00:11,559 --> 01:00:14,880
recycled the last years, and I was like, I think

1193
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,119
maybe we should put something into context. Is that they

1194
01:00:17,199 --> 01:00:21,679
have three brand new regular jerseys as well, so it's like.

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01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:25,199
Speaker 6: Maybe check out other teams city edition jerseys.

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01:00:25,239 --> 01:00:26,039
Speaker 9: They're pretty bad.

1197
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: A Celtics by a Celtics fan commedy. He's like, man,

1198
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:30,960
he's like, these are sweet. I have to watch my

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01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:35,199
team play like the worst jerseys of all time every

1200
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,760
time they come out with the City editions. Too many jerseys, man, agreed.

1201
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,719
Don't even get me started. This started European soccer team

1202
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,159
started doing a thing like ten years ago where they

1203
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,760
just released a brand new home kit and a brand

1204
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,679
new away kit every year, which is insane, which means

1205
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,400
every year you have to buy a new jersey if

1206
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,239
you want the most current jersey. I know you don't

1207
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,400
have to do that, but one of the beautiful things

1208
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,360
of a team having a set jersey is that you

1209
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:01,840
buy it and then it doesn't look that different for

1210
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,559
at least like ten to fifteen years. Now we're in

1211
01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:10,360
this like the University of Oregon also in the early tens,

1212
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:16,199
ruined this as well, Thanks Chip, Thanks Chip, and mister Knight,

1213
01:01:18,039 --> 01:01:19,519
where it's just like, yeah, what if we had what

1214
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:22,000
if we had fifteen jerseys every year? And you're like, no,

1215
01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:26,119
like skin me one, be nice to the consumer, which

1216
01:01:26,159 --> 01:01:31,400
they never are. But I'm wildly off topic here. So

1217
01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:34,960
we're predicting split this back to back.

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01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and against Houston. So therefore split against Houston eight

1219
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,519
and Eate by the time Tuesday's over or Monday's over,

1220
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,760
let's do it. Sign me up, dude, eight, Nate tread

1221
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,960
water great treadwater.

1222
01:01:53,639 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 3: Right there in the middle. Not bad, not good, but

1223
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:58,280
it's not bad.

1224
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 6: It is those Eastern Conference teams, huh what about those

1225
01:02:03,039 --> 01:02:04,000
A holes? Where are they doing?

1226
01:02:04,199 --> 01:02:10,559
Speaker 3: Look at one of them in particular, you losers? All right,

1227
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:12,800
that about wraps it up. We're calling it people losers.

1228
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:18,320
I'm ranching about unethical marketing practices by Soulis Corporations. We're

1229
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,599
probably gonna be doing some postgame live hangs after the

1230
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:24,880
Sunday and Monday stuff Friday, TBD. Who knows, one of

1231
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,320
us will probably be on the radio full episode on

1232
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,920
Tuesday to talk whatever happens in the back to back

1233
01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:32,199
and then kind of a brutal run coming up against

1234
01:02:32,199 --> 01:02:37,239
the Magic and the Kings. Will. Now that it's winter

1235
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,920
and people like to gather around the fire and discuss

1236
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,159
their interests in their lives, what is a piece of

1237
01:02:43,239 --> 01:02:45,800
information that some of our listeners could share with the

1238
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,000
other people around the fire.

1239
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:50,719
Speaker 5: Oh, you should tell your fire mates to check out

1240
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,159
clips and did the podcast? Wherever you get your podcasts,

1241
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,840
if they happen to listen when they're not by the fire,

1242
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,400
or when they are by the fire, over on Apple

1243
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,760
Podcasts Spotify, you can leave a little rating and review

1244
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,719
that would help us out. The best way though, to

1245
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:06,880
check out this podcast is over on YouTube dot com.

1246
01:03:07,079 --> 01:03:11,320
That's at Clippers Podcast. Yeah, however, however you enjoy the show,

1247
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,760
however you enjoy your fires, we appreciate you.

1248
01:03:15,239 --> 01:03:18,079
Speaker 3: However you enjoy your fires, we appreciate. Sometimes it's arson

1249
01:03:18,239 --> 01:03:21,360
I don't know, sometimes it's arson, sometimes it's little fires everywhere.

1250
01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:28,239
We do appreciate you and Adam. One positive thing to

1251
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,960
send these clipfans off into this frigid weekend.

1252
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 6: Well, that new starting lineup plus fifteen and seventeen minutes.

1253
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,639
I mean it's just seventeen minutes, but they have a

1254
01:03:41,719 --> 01:03:46,400
top thirteen net rating. They're thirteen, but it's gonna say

1255
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:51,559
one of the twelve. Their offense is hung around seventeen

1256
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:54,519
after the last couple of games, and the defense has

1257
01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:58,239
been just inside top ten. I don't hate it. That's

1258
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,760
kind of what I don't know we're talking about coming

1259
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,039
into this season. And if they can stay afloat, just

1260
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:06,719
stay around five hundred, just get a couple more of

1261
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,360
those wins against you know, some of the big boys

1262
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,280
while taking care of your business against teams like the

1263
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,920
Utah Jazz, and you're gonna be all right.

1264
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 3: It's gonna be all right. Hey we will Is. It's

1265
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:22,280
gotta be so hard to watch these games for Will

1266
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,840
because you just know it's gonna happen at the end

1267
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:28,639
of the season. Zen Like discipline I do have to do.

1268
01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:31,800
I never do this. I am plugging a thing. There's

1269
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:37,320
a giant new exhibit opening and like common hangout area

1270
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,000
happening at the Natural His Museum at watched in La

1271
01:04:40,599 --> 01:04:43,559
over An Expo park. Come hang out on Sunday. It's free.

1272
01:04:43,639 --> 01:04:45,920
It's gonna be a fun time. There's food vendors, you

1273
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,639
get to see a seventy five foot green dinosaur skeleton.

1274
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,599
It should be very fun. All right, we will be

1275
01:04:51,679 --> 01:04:53,960
back soon and as always, let's go Clips