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Speaker 3: What is going on. Clippers fans, Welcome to season three,
episode twenty eight of Clips and Dip, your favorite Clippers podcast,
We hope. I am Chuck Buckler, joined by Adam Oslin
and Will Updike. We got the full crew here today.
If you hung out with Will and I on the
live over at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast,
thanks for hanging out. It was a good time, a
good time.
Speaker 5: We went a lot longer on that stream than I
thought we were going to check out an hour after
a loss of the Rockets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was a good time. We're gonna talk
about some of the same stuff we touched on, the
new starting lineup. How good some of the younger guys
looked in the end. They're halfway through the end I
guess of that Rockets game that we're touching on. The
Jazz Warriors back to back happening this weekend. But before
we get into all of that, the Clippers are five hundred.
We're loving it. Adam, how are you feeling We kind
of we did our ten game kind of stat breakdown
the last full episode we had. It feels like the
Clippers are kind of playing into that ten game. So
how are you feeling now that we're back at five hundred,
where we might be back a couple more times this season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not surprised by any of this. I said
I'd sign up for five hundred after ten games. It
took twelve games to get there or get back to
there after.
Speaker 3: Maybe they were right and high after the ten games.
Speaker 6: Then oh yeah, six and four. What a different couple
of games make. So they played a good Rockets team.
They're playing them again on Friday. I understand that some
people find it more of an excruciating loss because of
the Oaklay's okay see pickswap implications. I understand. But there
was somebody who said to me as I was doing
the game preview, like, though we should be beating this team.
I'm just like, why they're seven and four?
Speaker 5: People? This team is bad? Is like real, like real bad.
Speaker 6: They're clueless. They have one of the best defense, is
one of the best rebounding there's some of the best
rebounding numbers in the league, and now their second in
offensive rebounding percentage. Yeah, the Clippers got crushed there last night.
They had a poor game, and they went up against
a team that's really good in that area, and it's.
Speaker 3: A team that we're going to talk about is the
blueprint for how to kind of beat the Clippers, which
is young athletic defenders. They have a lot of guys
on that Rockets team who play hard like that that
Rockets bench, I don't know, they have a bright future ahead.
It seems like weill. How are you doing now that
we're five hundred the day after five hundred.
Speaker 5: I'm doing good. I mean, you know, it felt a
lot better to be a couple of games over five hundred,
which you know, was a nice little surprise. This hasn't
been the easiest schedule either, just given rest days and
and everything kind of going on there. And I wonder,
especially with Harden, if that's some of what you're seeing
with this lack of efficiency. I'm not really sure. You know,
we're still waiting for him to get those legs under him.
But overall, you know, I like this game. I do
feel like it was winnable in that I think a
substitution could have been made to close out this game,
or a substitution or two that could have put this
one away.
Speaker 6: Who what time of the game. I'm curious.
Speaker 5: They missed a couple rebounds like they were getting killed
on the glass. At around I want to say, like
the four minute mark, they were like having okay defensive
possessions and then sort of not really close and not
really closing them out. So I would like just a
little bit of size, like I could see Derrick Jones
Junior out there, maybe even a Nick Batoomb something to
just add a little bit more, like a little bit
more size and grit.
Speaker 3: I guess I respect Lugo with the hot hand because
we talked about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well, like I said, I see it both
ways though, like I understand, like you have to test
these guys and this these were the most meaningful minutes
for some of these players in this season, and like
for some of them really their their NBA careers, So
it makes it makes sense why why you try to
see what they you know, what they could do, especially
when they had the momentum going into the fourth.
Speaker 3: Bones got his first free throw attempt for the season.
Very exciting, happy for him. Before we get more into
the young guys' lineup that we might who knows, maybe
we'll see him again on Friday. Because Tyler mentioned the
athleticism needed to combat Houston's athleticism. Starting lineup change. Twelve
games in, Tyler makes the change. He puts Chris Done
in for Terrence Man. It's a permanent change. He's not
going back. Just for reference for anyone out there who
didn't think that a starting lineup change was coming or
anything like that, the old starters were minus ten points
per one hundred possessions to start well.
Speaker 5: I don't know. We had kind of talked about on
the show before how Terrence hadn't been great to start
the season. We didn't necessarily feel at the time as
though he was losing US games. Where are you guys
at now? And was there a point where you were like, Okay,
you know, it probably is time for a change now.
Speaker 6: I did a show the day before yesterday, and I
was like, this is it Terrence? After that, okay, see
game I kind of I posted all the numbers. I
think they were a minus thirty five total over one
hundred and sixty six minutes the starting lineup. Now, the
numbers weren't good with a mirror in place of Man
because they were turning the ball over a ton, but
they were shooting really well with that lineup, and then
the numbers with Chris Dunn instead of Man were good,
but it was really limited. They were like a plus
thirteen and ten minutes so far this season or something
like that.
Speaker 3: Well size, let's go.
Speaker 6: And they went with Chris Nunn. And I think it
makes a lot of sense. We talked about during the summer,
but this is somebody that can replicate a lot of
what Patrick Beverly was doing in the backcourt for Houston
next to James Harden. And if you want James Harden
to not have to be overtaxed and somebody else that
can bring the ball up, Chris Dunn was the guy
to do that. And I honestly, I don't know if
they're Yeah, last couple of games he's been great with
If anybody has been better in the assists eternal for
a ratio, it's been him. And I don't think honestly,
with the way he's been rebounding and some of the
boards he has gotten, I don't know if they're losing
much there by having him in place a Terrence Man.
I think it's all a plus.
Speaker 3: I think you're right. The all a plus thing is
like I think for the most part, people were like, Okay,
we're gonna be happy that Chris done. No one, No
one thought putting Chris Dunn in was a big risk,
right because he's been so good.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's such a steady hand, like that was
what I liked so much about him With the second
unit is just with the younger guys having a vent
who you know, is very predictable and you know what
you're going to get out of them. And I think
that that like raises the floor with those lineups. But
it makes a lot of sense in the starting lineup.
I'm curious like what it looks like though, if we
when we do play larger teams. And I know, like
the rebounding has been really good really for Clippers guards
sort of across the board. We know that, but I
don't know in my head, there's still one game in
my head, there's still some limitations there. Yeah, but you
know that's a specific situation like that. You know, those
are specific situations.
Speaker 3: And one thing that's cool, Adam you mentioned kind of
taking giving Harden a break on the offense, the small
small pick and roll with Chris Dunn and James Harden.
The lot of the Jam has been tweeting about this
a lot. If you want to go check out their
tweets on x or whatever really helps the offense out.
Norm can get actions off that Norm missed a bucket.
I think it was like the his first shot attempt
of the game. I think it came off a small,
small pick and roll with Doun as the screener and
Hardness the ball handler. Norm kind of he skirted the basket.
He missed like a bunny, like no one was around him.
But that which how kind of kind of foreshadowed the
night Norm is gonna have. But that wrinkle that play
design is so encouraging to see from Game one of
this new starting lineup, so like Done is going to
be asked to do a lot him and Batooma kind
of like has to do so much for this team.
But I'm excited for the small, small pick and roll
to kind of grow and the actions we can get
out of that, And especially with how well Derek Jones
Junior shooting the ball, like there's not like the one
guy you can sag off of right now on the
Clippers starting lineup is Chris Dunn from a three point
line because teams have been doing that. But a he's
a willing shooter and he's not completely garbage at hitting
threes right now, So like there's Tyler's gonna tinker with
some of this stuff, and I'm really excited to see
what this looks like like six to eight games from
now with the new starting lineup.
Speaker 5: And was this This was a team best in turnovers
this game too.
Speaker 3: Nine nine times.
Speaker 6: The other thing is they took Chris Dunn out at
about the six minute mark of the first quarter, so
they still brought him back to start the second with
the backup unit like they had been doing. Like Terrence
Man was the different wrinkle in there. It was Chris Dunn,
Norman Powell, Terrence Man, a Mere Coffee and Nico to
start the second quarter, So they went small. Aviatcha Zubas
wasn't out there. My thing was with last night they
got crushed on the boards when they were big, So
coach Leu was like, uh, guy it if we're not
gonna get rebounds even when we're big, what are we
doing here? I might as well go into a small
ball lineup and try to juice up the offense, because
I think at one point in the third quarter it
was forty nine to twenty three. That was the board
advantage by Houston, like, that's the unit. At the end
of the game. I think they won the fourth quarter
fifteen to fourteen on the boards. They actually got a
little bit betterbe it was a disaster through three quarters
of that game. So I don't blame coach Lou at
all when people are saying why they go so small,
why didn't Eve bring zoobots back in, I don't know,
because he was bad yesterday. He had a bad game.
Speaker 3: Game flow was not in Zoo's favor. He had two
possessions in a row, he missed those free throws and
then he missed a shot right at the rim, and
then right after that, I think he scored four straight
or something like that.
Speaker 6: He had a good stitt in the third quarter early
on where they had like a six to zero run. Yeah,
and they were in it, But then there was a
seventeen to two run I think to bridge the end
of the third into the fourth, and then they're down
ten entering the fourth quarter and Coach Lou put in
Jordan Miller. It's so funny, the same people that have
been starving to see Jordan Miller, like, oh, he's putting
in Jordan Miller. Well, I guess he's waving the white flag.
Huh wait a second. You wanted this.
Speaker 5: We when we were talking about last night, we thought
him it was more of a depth test, like why
not see what you got? Give these guys some minutes,
give him, give him in a high lever situation. Charles
and I also talked about this a little bit last night.
But who popped for you? Of the guys who got
some significant minutes that people have been begging to be
in the rotation that we haven't really seen yet.
Speaker 6: I thought Jordan Miller was solid. He had eight points
and eight minutes. He had a couple of turnovers too,
but he had what that crazy and one then he
bullyed through Fred van Vliet. Yeah, I think he was good,
like he earned another shot after this, even though he
made some mistakes. Overall, he looked like Jordan Miller. And
I thought Kobe was better than I would have.
Speaker 5: I mean that that was impressive because I've kind of
been you know me, I've been a little bit out
on Kobe Brown. That was that was a definitive step
in the right direction for AE that needs power forward.
Speaker 6: Size or small ball five Kobe Brown minutes. That's what
they were testing. Out with him playing center, I guess,
and what training camp. So maybe with Kai Jones seemingly
out of the rotation right now, Kobe Brown gets another
shot against Houston tomorrow. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be the game tomorrow is like I'm
because I guess I'm looking at the at the box score.
Like we've heard Ty kind of talk about, you know,
he was upset with the game in Sacramento because we
couldn't get like some in game rest for guys like Norm,
not guys like for specifically James Harden and Norm Powell.
Even last night Norm played thirty three, Harden played thirty one,
which is light for what he's usually doing. So like
they seem to have found some rest at the end
of that game thanks to those thanks to those young
guys matching the athleticism.
Speaker 5: But I like, like against starters too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Rockets had to bring in starters like we
weren't watching, you know, like this wasn't garbage time minutes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I did not get the logic of we're down
four put the starters back in. Why they were bad?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 6: The backups got them back into it. Now you're going
to pull them. There's a good way to lose.
Speaker 3: The offer room.
Speaker 6: Like, hey, you guys did all that work to get
us back into this ball game, but now we're gonna
take it from here, even though we put you in
this bad spot to begin with.
Speaker 3: And it would be against all of Like, this has
been Tylo's best start to the season in terms of
pulling strings. I think as a Clippers coach, he's not
working with a lot, like in terms of roster compard
to what he used to have. He's riding the hot hands.
He's listening to guys too. That game where Norm was
about to check in and then like things started going well,
Norm was like maybe I shouldn't go in, and ty
was like, great, fine, this is working. So this is great.
Like he doesn't have to have a note card telling
him guys minutes restrictions, which he had at least once
a couple seasons. Like I think, do you remember when
when Doc used to have to like throw things at
the wall because guys were hurt and we would all
of a sudden see these rotations that were kind of
weird and out there, but they worked, and it was
like only when his back was against the wall was
Doc rivers able to like really kind of manufacture these
these working lineups. Tyler's already able to do that, and
so it's really it goes back to that ethos that
I think this team has, which is everyone's going to compete.
So Tyler feels comfortable playing everybody, like even the rookies
with eight minutes left in a game that's not out
of hand.
Speaker 6: I felt like it was also a message to the
starters because that was the first game where you could
definitely focus in and say, I don't know about the
effort on some of these possessions here. We haven't really
said that so far this season, but there were times
where they were definitely being out worked, and I think
you said enough, I'm going to find some energy. If
I have to go on to the bench to find it,
I'm going to do that. And they gave them a spark.
They got them back in the game. They were down. Now,
some of those guys helped them get down to nineteen,
because I think there was a nine to zero run
to start that fourth quarter. Yes, but then they got
it down to four with a minute and a half left.
I would dance with those guys to finish the game.
I don't think you can go back to the starters
like some people wanted to after they cut it down
to four.
Speaker 3: And they're cold, like you're gonna like you mentioned will
you brought up to James Harden shooting? I think Toe Mayor.
Speaker 6: It's so cold.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's actually, I think we have the technology to
do this. We can screen share this tweet by Tie
Mayor showing Harden shooting. And look, James Harden is having
to do a lot. These are not good percentages. He's
shooting thirty seven percent in the first, fifteen percent in
the second in six and a half minutes, forty three
percent in the third, gets a little bit of rest
after halftime, and then I mean, pfically fifty four percent
overall on the fourth. But like these zones like this
is not what you want to see. For those of
you listening to this podcast, we're looking at a hardened
shot chart, a lot of red, only two green areas,
which is on all.
Speaker 5: You one of them is three out of four, the
other one of one.
Speaker 3: Sure, but I mean anything else is like.
Speaker 5: Either league average or below league average.
Speaker 6: So yeah, what about this one stands out to me?
It's the second quarter where he's shooting fifteen point nine
percent from the field and ten point five percent from three.
So I just ran the numbers. If you take out
second quarters and just add up and then divide by
three the percentages and field goal percentage without the second quarter,
he's at forty five percent. If you do it with threes,
he's at thirty five percent. That second quarter is completely
taking his shooting percentages.
Speaker 3: Tanking him.
Speaker 6: How is it that bad?
Speaker 3: I don't know. He's tired. I think it's a tired
thing man. He's having to play. He's averaging eleven minutes
in the first quarter, which in the.
Speaker 6: Fourth he's shooting better.
Speaker 3: And I don't know.
Speaker 6: This is weird.
Speaker 3: What gets me is this number right here at the rim,
twenty eight of sixty four at the rim at the room,
that is not Yes, he gets a lot of foul calls,
but that is not That does not help the Clippers
right now.
Speaker 6: That seems like a lack of lift. He just doesn't
have it at the room. Other than that one dunkey
at off the Zuobots bounce past this season, I think
it hasn't really been there.
Speaker 7: So was there a hope of that improving or is
that just I think the done switch helps a little bit, right,
Like we got to revisit the Done switch in like
ten games.
Speaker 3: We'll look at these percentages. But if he's just not
having to do as much, not that Done is going
to come in and like oh he's kind of like
the second point guard or anything like that, just giving
him some relief. That second quarter is brutal. I wonder
if Ty tries to adjust something with that, because like
maybe bringing him later in the second, like so we
can get his legs under him a bit.
Speaker 6: But I don't know, if you take out the second
quarter percentages, he's at forty five percent from the floor
and thirty five percent from three. It's just it's killing
his efficiency. How is it that bad in the second.
Speaker 3: What's the Clippers plus minus in the second quarters?
Speaker 6: I know they've had a ton of turnovers. I think
they lead the league in turnovers where they were specifically
in the second quarter. I think at one point it
was almost at six turnovers per game in the second
which is insane.
Speaker 3: I mean, the Clippers are averaging the third most points
in the second quarter in the NBA, but.
Speaker 6: The turnovers they're at five point one now, so second
to last. Yeah, the five point one in one quarter
is pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: I think, which is also crazy because Harden's not playing
a lot in those second quarters, hardened by this chart
as playing average half of the second quarter. So is
that minutes where he's just kicking the ball to the
other team during those six minutes? Like, what are his
turnovers in the second quarter?
Speaker 6: Yeah, probably not great?
Speaker 3: Probably that idea. So, I mean, I think the Doune change, like,
I hope it fixes it. Like, again, the margins are thin,
and if Harden's shooting fifteen percent in the second quarter,
that's tough to overcome.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's weird to me. I wouldn't have thought the
fourth quarter shooting improved where it's at fifty four percent.
Crazy that kind of I don't know, there's something flukey
going on because if he's more tired later, why is
he shooting better. It still seems like the turnovers come
in bunches sometimes though on the fourth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, he was good last night with the
turnovers though, like that was everybody was, Yeah, he had one.
Norm was the worst.
Speaker 6: What did Norm have?
Speaker 3: Three of the nine?
Speaker 6: I guess Semen said eight of the nine turnovers were
live ball turnovers.
Speaker 3: That sounds about right.
Speaker 6: Because they had like twenty four points off of those
nine turnovers, which is a lot. Yeah, normally you get
like a point per turnover.
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Speaker 5: Oh alrighty arts, All right, welcome back into Cliffs and Dip,
your favorite basketball podcast about the Clippers. We talked about
night one against Houston, and now we're looking ahead to Friday,
where the Clippers are taking on the Rockets again in
a little bit of a mini series. And Charles, you
have some thoughts on this Rockets team that they might
be perfectly equipped to take down the Clippers yet again,
sullying the Clippers first game and then in the NBA Cup.
Oh no, that's right, man, you wrote the rundown.
Speaker 3: I don't know this is.
Speaker 5: What you wrote.
Speaker 3: Someone grabbed me out of the punging pit. I was
just hurled into. No, so we saw it last night though, right,
Like they are an incredibly fast team, like just and
I don't mean like possession wise, I mean straight mphs.
Like we saw them blow by the Clippers on some
transition buckets. They had eighteen offensive rebounds, which you're we're
not going to win a lot of games giving up
eighteen offensive rebounds, nineteen to six on second chance points. Again,
you look at how the Clippers played. They only turned
the ball over nine times, Like that's half of their average,
not even like not really any hyperbole there. And like
we got up ninety six shots against this Rockets team.
Speaker 6: How many free throws did they take in the game?
Speaker 3: Us are the Rockets the Clippers.
Speaker 6: To get up nineteen, so low turnover game, low free
throw game, you end up getting up way more shots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they and the Rockets got up ninety seven, which
kind of fits their average. But like they're just like
Tye said it right, like the young guy lineup was
out there to combat the Rockets athleticism because the Clippers
don't have a full lineup of athleticism that can match
up with a team like the Rockets. We saw it
against when OKC went small, when they had to go
small without Chet. That's a bunch of young athletic defensive
guys who make life incredibly difficult for a team like
the Clippers, who in the half court. A couple of
days ago, Shane Young posted this, the Clippers half court
offense of rating is like ninety two in the half court.
And when you play against a team like this, where
it's it's like Nats, there's arms everywhere, like there's you're
getting these weird double teams. They can bring guys off
the bench who can be really annoying offensively. It's just
like if the if, and when, because it's already happened,
the Clippers lose to a team like this. Sometimes I
think it's as simple as they're younger, they're faster, and
they are incredibly dedicated to playing defense. Because young teams
that are only dedicated to offense like the Raptors get
beat by the Clippers because our defense is very good
and they're half courret and you know, but teams that
are committed to this defensive identity with their youth, that's
tough for the Clippers, especially when we you know, Norm
had enough game even hard and shot forty percent. Zoo
was kind of taken out of the game. To your point, Adam,
like it's it's a big hill to climb before the
game's even started. And this is no disrespect towards the Clippers,
but like the Rockets are an incredibly athletic team. I
don't think anyone's gonna argue with me at that point.
Speaker 6: No, they're definitely a bad matchup for the Clippers. They're
also just good. They're like a bad matchup for most teams.
Same with OKC. If you have a defense that good,
you're probably gonna be a pretty solid team. They're eight
and four, and we said coming into this season, Rockets
on paper have the advantage over the Clippers. We knew
this would be a head to head thing all season
long with that OKC pick swap, and they played each
other four times and we were concerned about this. So
it's a huge game. It's a huge loss. They need
to get tomorrow Knight's game though, against them or else.
What happens if you get so far I'm just wondering,
just store this out there, if you get so far
behind Houston, does that alone trigger a domino effect with
this Clippers team, with how they go about the rest
of the season, Because I think a big part of
this is trying to stay in front of the Houston
rocke is to grab that first round picker hold on
to it.
Speaker 3: I think that's a great point, Like if it's lost,
where it's like, well, we're definitely not going to have
this pick.
Speaker 6: Does that usher in the youth movement? You know?
Speaker 3: I think it might like if we're not.
Speaker 6: Getting the first round pick, we might as well start
developing guys. I don't know. Well, no, you guys talked
about Normal last night. I agree with you. At some
point they may be selling high on.
Speaker 3: Norm if his value because what is it? We talked
about it before you start recording. It's December fifteenth, a lot.
When it triggers, a lot of guys can be traded,
maybe a PJ. Tucker trade, whatever the hell they're going
to get for PJ. Tucker. But if I don't say what, PJ.
Speaker 5: Tucker is going out on his own. The only reason
they've held onto that contract is to have an extra
twelve million dollars flexibility.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, Yeah, I don't know. I think you're
right out of it. I think that brings in, like
at the trade at post All Star break, if the
Clippers are not within striking distance and not playing well
and we still have no idea about Kawhi's return at all.
Speaker 6: Okay, here's the thing. The third game against Houston in
December eighth. Damn what if by then they're five or
six games back against Houston they lose all three?
Speaker 3: Not ideal. I don't feel good. Then Jordan Miller's probably
averaging nine minutes per game.
Speaker 6: The last game against them is April ninth.
Speaker 3: Ooh, so probably during a possibly inconsequential time of the
season for the Clippers.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not saying the Clippers are giving up
on the season this earlier or anything like that, and
they could still play above five hundred and play above
their heads. And Norman Palell has been cooking. He's had
one game, He's due for a bounce back on Friday.
I'm just saying what happens if they keep losing to
Houston and Houston just takes off and it doesn't look
like that pick swaps happening.
Speaker 3: I think we see some moves made, and I think
we see a lot more young guys. One thing that
I think helps that is before that youth lineup came
in the bench scoring, KPJ picked up three fouls very
quickly in like five minutes of play. And if he's
not able to score, we saw what that bench looks
like without someone like KPJ. They were getting out scored
like forty to twelve at one point from the bench against.
Speaker 5: This Is that a season low minutes wise for him too?
Speaker 3: I mean it has to be just in like I would.
I don't have it off the top of my head.
Speaker 6: But there's six minutes or something right.
Speaker 3: Five forty seven during a very rough run in which
he was minus eleven. Not his fault because plus minus
is a lineup stat and maybe a defensive stat, but
he just he didn't have it because it happens.
Speaker 6: And Easton and Thompson nuke dude. So it was a
combination of bad things. Their bench not doing much, Houston's
bench really taking off.
Speaker 3: Two double doubles off the bench for Houston, almost two
twenty and ten double doubles off the bench for two
guys who had eighteen and ten and eighteen and eleven.
Like the Clippers aren't getting that from anyone on the bench.
Speaker 6: The thing is that new Clippers starting lineup went plus
fifteen and seventeen minutes. Yeah, I mean Jen Gouon was
a minus eighteen out there, Fred van Vliet minus ten,
Jalen Green minus ten, Jabari Smith Junior minus three. They
their starters were doing okay against Houston starters, but the
backups came in and they have backups that could be
starting in certain places, Like they have such depth, Like
there's combinations you can go to. I mean, Cam Whitmore
was sent to the G League just because we don't
have playing time for you right now.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Will, What do you think happens on Friday?
Like what adjustments can you say see other than of
course starting Jordan Miller, you start Kobe Brown, Uh, what
other adjustments can that can entily make for this game
on Friday.
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess we're gonna learn a lot about
this team in that second quarter, Like when when the
when the starters have their second stint, what exactly does
that look like? Because I think that, you know, we
from a very limited sample size. I like the change
to the starting lineup. I think they have the capability
to give Houston a really hard time on the defensive end.
And yeah, well we'll just have We'll just have to see.
But I think that second stint is going to say
a lot about where the state of this team is,
especially with the starters getting some rest, certainly to end
this game and then a little bit of time in between,
which hasn't you know, hasn't exactly been a luxury. But
if Harden and Norm are both as cold as they have, like,
well Norm, Norm's coldness is it's shorter. But as as
much as Harden has been a Norm, we get the
same Norm we've gotten the last couple of games. I yeah,
I think it's going to be more of the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the nine turnovers and losing a game where the
Clippers get nine turnovers at this point in the season,
I'm pretty salty about if I'm being totally honest, I know, but.
Speaker 5: Look at everything else, like we got out revised seventeen boards,
like the second chance points, like we lost we lost
a lot in this We.
Speaker 3: No, we did lose a lot. I get that, But like, man,
if we turn the ball over less than ten times
on Friday and lose again, which might happen, like a,
I will be shocked if we turn the ball over
less than ten times on Friday, I don't think I.
Speaker 6: Feel Houston also hit fifteen threes on forty takes. They
had been shooting thirty one percent from three on the season,
and they went thirty eight percent on high volume.
Speaker 5: That was a rough classic.
Speaker 3: Then we hit fourteen on thirty eight. We were shot.
Speaker 6: Slippers weren't bad. The Clippers start off seven of ten
though as a thing, Yeah, Houston was six of nine
and the Clipper is still led by eleven in that
first quarter.
Speaker 3: Somehow, do we think, what's the adjustment for Zoo right?
Because he was not very good, as you.
Speaker 6: Yet him effing involved early and often are you're going
to lose the game. It is not an option whether
or not to get dubots involved. You have to get
him involved. Some of them it's definitely on him, of
course totally. I understand you're hot from three to start
and so it makes sense to go away from him.
But after that, I think they needed they needed to
be more cognitizant of the fact that if they don't
have high pick and roll going with James Harden and
to beat to Zubots. To me, this team gets even
more lost offensively. That is the bread and butter, that
is their foundation. It's it's a requirement, it's a non negotiable.
You have to go to Zubots. It doesn't mean you're
always going to win, but you're probably definitely going to
lose if you don't get him involved.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Will brought up a good point last night that
like Zoo has to be efficient because he's only going
to get so many looks. Yeah he's not.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, he's barely getting found even when
he's having these great stretches. So if it's rough to
start and the threes are falling, I mean he's he's
not going to get a lot of looks. And the
issue is, like, you know, his game is just so
dependent on everyone else, Like whether that's you know, whoever
is ball handling noticing him or you know whatever the
coaches want to go with. From a from like a
play an next and zero perspective. So it's it's difficult
because I don't know. I don't know what more he
can do, you know, like, I'm not sure what he
can do to rectify that situation other than efficient.
Speaker 3: Wear a T shirt that says, give me the ball
to every game.
Speaker 6: I make the joke the Keithshawn Johnson both just give
me the damn ball with the viats of Zoo bots
his head on it. I want to go back to
the Spurs game. Zoo was not efficient to start. They
kept going to him, and eventually it pulled through and
helped them win the ball game late. That's what the
blueprint should be always. It's just you're not gonna win
games if eatsa Zubas is getting up eight shots very
often anymore, it's not happening. I think he took three
shots in the first half and then had four shots
by midway through the third quarter. Now I understand why
they went small. Zoo was doing his party either. The
rebounding was atrocious. They were down by twenty five boards
at one point. The free throw differential was that in
the third quarter. So some of it's on a visa Zubas,
But I just I feel like early on you have
to try to get him going. It is imperative.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the other thing that worries me about the
center corps, which I've been having sleepless nights over since
the season started. A. I love Niko Batum. He is
very good for the Clippers team. Yet again he is
being well. We talked about this. He was asked to
do a lot for the Clippers, then he left, went
to Philly. Now he's back. He didn't really leave, you
know what I mean. He went to Philly. Now he's
back and he's asked to do almost even more. He's
our backup center and he is and I don't mean
this disrespectfully. He is too old to be playing backup
center for a team, right Like we already have an
empty roster spot in PJ. Tucker. We can't have another
empty roster spot between our actual centers who play backup center.
Speaker 5: Well, Obama is on assignment, so he is near he
should be. He is nearing hell for sure, but we
need like to get because that's kind of a wild
card that I would have liked to have been able
to take a look at in last night's.
Speaker 3: Game as a younger team like that, Yeah, like, what.
Speaker 5: Does Bomba look like out there? We know, I mean,
we're still getting killed on the on the boards obviously,
but uh, it's an interesting enough variable that I'm I'm curious.
I wish we could have seen it.
Speaker 3: We have to look at it.
Speaker 6: What about Kobe tomorrow? Back up five minutes.
Speaker 3: Why not he was beasted on the boards.
Speaker 6: He brought some brute How.
Speaker 5: Early would you be willing to bring him in second quarter?
Speaker 3: As soon as the rebounds, if we're getting smoked on
the rebounds, if they're putting, if they're on pace for
another almost twenty offensive rebounding game. They had almost sixty
boards in this game.
Speaker 6: Geez, it was like, now, they're a great rebounding team
and the Clippers had a bad night there, but overall,
they have absolutely out kicked expectation for rebounding.
Speaker 3: Which hopefully that hopefully, these those first eleven games weren't the.
Speaker 6: Anomaly and the regression is coming hard and swift right now.
Speaker 3: I don't know, well, against teams like the Rockets, it
looks like that right, because they just run by us
and that type of thing. I yeah, I don't know
how I feel about tomorrow night. I don't know necessarily
feel great. But I also think I mean, KPJ only
playing five minutes puts a strain on stuff just because
of the foul trouble. And Ty was like, it's not
your night. I guess do you think that's what it is?
Speaker 6: Just not his night? Or do you think he could
be going a different direction sooner than later?
Speaker 3: Because what was he the game before? Let me look
up his stats the game before.
Speaker 6: I think he had some decent run.
Speaker 3: He was He had nine points, he shot fifty like
he was.
Speaker 5: That was like one of his better games. That was
like maybe his best game.
Speaker 3: The Raptors game he had fifteen, and then the Thunder
he had nine one and two Raptors he had fifty.
He's only two games removed from his best game as
a Clipper.
Speaker 6: But I was just surprised he didn't play it all
in the second half, right, No, I was a little
bit surprised by that.
Speaker 3: Well, because also we've talked about like take the offensive
out of take the offense out of it. He hasn't
been a liability on defense, and he's been crashing the boards,
which is two things that the team talked about needing
the guards to do. So it's like.
Speaker 5: He's just such a ballstopper though on the offensive end,
like like nobody else is getting involved. And again, like
like we've talked about it in the past, it's not
like he's surrounded by like elite offensive when he's.
Speaker 3: Out there on the floor.
Speaker 5: I totally get that. I totally get that, but it
does kind of gum things up and slow things down.
And if he's not, you know, if he doesn't have
it that night, like, you know, I get that he's not.
He's not. He's definitely not a liability defensively, but like,
is it worth still sticking it out when he's you know,
even if it's not his night, he's still getting tunnel
vision for the basket every time the ball was in
his hands.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I don't. And I don't blame coach lou
for having a short leash in a game with Kevin
Porter Junior. I was just surprised how short it was.
Speaker 5: Oh, I agree, one hundred.
Speaker 6: He's in Houston. I thought maybe I know the foul
trouble was something, and I think his minutes got tanked
pretty quickly too, And maybe he took a really bad
three pointer, like one of his really really bad shots,
and coach Lou said enough. Maybe he thought he was
trying to do too much against his former team. I
don't know. I just you from playing a decent amount
of minutes. Coach who says he's sticking with these rotations took.
Speaker 3: He took one shot in this game three, and I hold,
I want to make sure I'm right he took. This
is killing me. He took one shot in his game
and it was a three, but I bet it was
probably with like, if I had to guess based on
his tendencies, I bet there was double digits left on
the shot clock, and I bet he brought the ball
over saw the matchup, took a bad three, and Ty
was like, dude, we talked about this yesterday and he
had three fouls. He was fouling the ship out of
the rocket. But again, if he's not scoring, maybe it's
the Jordans. Maybe we talked about going to Kobe Brown early.
Maybe if KPJ has another stinker, all the Jordan miller
heads get the crack open their their Miller time.
Speaker 6: There is that what we're entering a new phase. We're
ties quicker to go to the young guys. Now, okay,
here we go, we're not playing well, I'm going to it.
Is that what we saw the other night.
Speaker 3: I think it's the building blocks of that because it
is Tyloo right, like we had we had eleven games
of a starting lineup that was minus ten. But like
Will was saying yesterday, like they didn't do anything in
that game.
Speaker 6: They did.
Speaker 3: The only things they did the Jordan Miller Covey Rounds
specifically did in that game was showed that they should
probably get some more looks.
Speaker 6: They were good and I liked it next to a
mirror and Terrence Man, I didn't think Bones was great,
but I don't think it was bad either.
Speaker 3: It was kind of just like, eh, this is just
who he is at this point, I think, and it
bums me out.
Speaker 6: It was better than inconsequential minutes Bones. It wasn't that,
you know, there was something on the line.
Speaker 3: We hadn't even talked about how good Terrence looked off
the bench.
Speaker 6: Terrence was a menace. I can't believe that guy. Did
you hearst game? He said something to the effect that
I'm glad I got my guy back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well what was Uh Well, give Adam your take
on what we should do with Terrence Mayn because I
think I think, Oh, I.
Speaker 5: Just think at this point in his career, like you
know what he's had to be through, Like he's just
so much more comfortable being uncomfortable, like when there's some
sort of unpredictability and chaos into when his minutes are
what unit he plays with, hell, what position he plays.
I think that brings the best out of Terrence. He's
a guy who can really adapt to a situation. And
I think maybe he was a little too in his
own head with the starters. I'm not really sure what
was going on there, but he was far more aggressive.
It was like a night and day difference.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Well, he caught an oop from Chris Dunn that is insane.
Speaker 6: He had that wrap around pass to Jordan Miller who
missed the layup in the fourth and then he tipped
it in the hustle and the precision with that pass
was incredible.
Speaker 3: Bench Terrence, We're here for it, but we'll see what
happens on Friday. What's your I don't have this in
the rundown fucking busy day. Who's who are our player
of the game picks for Friday, and then we'll talk
about the back to back.
Speaker 6: Are any players available that weren't previously? Anyone played bad
enough to get back in.
Speaker 3: No, you can't pick Zoo, you can't pick Hard, and
you can't pick Norm. You can pick Kawhi.
Speaker 5: If you really believe, unless you're gonna, unless you're gonna
boldly pick that. James Harden will have a better than
fifty percent field goal percentage now, and you can pick
James Harden.
Speaker 6: This is an interesting wrinkle.
Speaker 3: When is the last time he shot over fifty percent
for the Clippers?
Speaker 6: Was it Game one?
Speaker 3: I'm looking up the game logs right now and I
would not be surprised if it's Game one.
Speaker 6: And maybe it was that one of the two.
Speaker 3: It's only been one. Uh, the twenty six point comeback
against the Spurs. He shot sixty. He took ten.
Speaker 6: Shots, already hot last night and then it faded.
Speaker 5: That second corner man. It's brutal, it's a killer.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So if he's only shot over fifty percent one
time this season, trouble game.
Speaker 5: So you can pick that, but it's with that copyat yes,
you can pick Harden, but it's with that copy.
Speaker 6: You only win if he shoots over fifty Yeah.
Speaker 5: Otherwise you have to sit in the corner.
Speaker 6: At the end of blair Witch exactly.
Speaker 3: Man, that's a DVD. I need to buy it, damn out.
Now I'm off tracking about DVDs, Adam, who's your pick
for playing game?
Speaker 6: I kind of like to live dangerously. I think I
want James Harden goinge above fifty percent, and if not,
I'll start the next podcast right in this corner here.
It's a nice corner. Look at this place. You can
hang out today.
Speaker 3: I still do he is incredibly do Will Who is
your pick for the James Harden less than fifty percent?
Norm Powell of eats the zoo Box Kawhi Leonard ceremonial
key to the City player of the game.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Terrence. I think he's gonna keep it running.
I think that you know him in a cup situation
with a Terrence a weird side of like cup players
last night, and I could see we didn't mention Terrence,
but I could see Terrence being a cup guy. So
I'm gonna go with Terrence. I like this new position.
I like that he's still engaged. She's in no way
hanging his head, and I think that we're gonna see
a great aggressive Terrence once again.
Speaker 3: I think that's a great point too, because everyone who
was like doesn't like Terrence man now or whatever, you
can never argue that the man does not play hard
no matter.
Speaker 5: There's some chatter in the comments last night if people
just wanted to trade him, like people are done with Terrence. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3: My favorite take is like, his contract looks really bad now,
and I'm like, what, No, it does not. It's a
very tradable contract. If you don't like Darren's man, if
there's one thing you should like, it's that his contract
is movable. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, as he gets back to playing anything near what
he's done throughout most of his career, it's a very
tradable contract.
Speaker 3: Guys, I am going I haven't looked at his numbers
in the NBA Cup from last year. I'm going Dereck Jones.
I know I've been harping on Derek Jones.
Speaker 6: Clippers make the Cup last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I'm going Derek Jones Junior. He was good
against the Rockets last night, four for six, he was
plus four. I think he's benefiting playing against done two.
I think we're gonna see cup Dereck Jones Junior go
crazy on the rockets, and by crazy I mean seventeen
points four boards two sweet oops, that's nice.
Speaker 5: Who's your MVPC Most Valuable or MVCP Most Valuable Cup Player?
Speaker 3: Oh? Most Valuable Cup Player? Oh Nico. European players live
for Cups. They're used to it. They were born into
the Cup world. So I'm Nico by a mile. Maybe Zoo,
You're you're all over the place.
Speaker 6: Man, pick Zoo and cup play.
Speaker 3: Well, this was for the Cup.
Speaker 5: If he's the MVCP, sure, MVCP man.
Speaker 3: What it rolls off the tongue? I hope the NBA
starts using that. There's a company that I work with
at my job that abbreviates itself as CP, and I
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Speaker 6: Auto Parts Hey, it's clips and dip. Season three, episode
twenty eight, I'm at a mussle and we got Will
Updike and Chuck Mockler, the big three here back with
you guys, and the Clippers have a back to back
coming up Sunday Monday at into It Dome, where I
know it's gonna be more full. After the comments by
Paul George, people are like, Okay, Paul, we see you.
You're gonna talk that trash. We're gonna fill up the
endo A Dome now are.
Speaker 5: Still pretty pricey, I will say too. Yeah, new arena
like on the on the secondhand market, compared to what
we've seen in years past, in my experience.
Speaker 6: Is the nicest arena ever so far. Right, all right,
So Sunday, Utah in town, first matchup against them, big
game for the Clippers, as they all are, but specifically
when you're playing a team that on paper you are
better than that, you have a real opportunity to get
a victory against. When Coach Luke talked about that Raptors
game at the end and not wanting to play guys
heavy minutes but feeling like that was a winnable game
is how he said it. This is another one of
those where guys will have to expand more energy if
they don't handle business early on to try to get
that game, which I do like hearing, like they know
coming into this season, which games are very winnable, that
they have to get the must win games against lesser competition.
I think Utah qualifies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but without falling into the trap of like playing
a team's record, because we have seen the Clippers do
that time and time again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was looking at these Jazz stats. Haven't caught
a lot of Jazz games. They are.
Speaker 5: They are dead last in the Western Conference.
Speaker 3: They are dead last in a lot of things, dead
last and field goal percentage and offensive rating dead last,
and turnover percentage and turnovers twenty ninth and points twenty
seventh in defensive.
Speaker 6: Rating, thirtieth in place to live.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Utah sucks the Beehive State. You freak. Yeah,
this is like I don't know what to say. And
if you've been watching this Clippers team for the last
X amount of years, we don't want to let down.
We don't want any of the bullshit. Don't turn the
ball over seventeen times. Don't give this team a glimmer
of hope. The wall is going to be doing their
thing I hope, but like, this is a team I
don't know if, like I don't know if this Clippers
team is built to like stomp any team out just
without streaky things can be. But if the Clippers win
by fifteen, that is like any other team winning by
twenty five. Is kind of how I feel about this
Clippers team. And it's a game for Norman Harden to
get off early, you know, like hopefully, Like maybe it's
a game where the young guys get some run if
things are going well. But it's also a game, Adam
to your point about that whole better record than the
Rockets thing that they cannot afford to lose.
Speaker 6: Could be a get right game if things don't go
well tomorrow in Houston, you know. And it's the front
end of it back to back, so even more of
a reason or even more motivation to handle your business
and get guys rest.
Speaker 3: And the Jazz are on the second out of a
back to back. I like that too. I don't know, Well,
what what could you see going wrong?
Speaker 5: Turnover? Yeah, just a bunch of turnovers letting this team
back into the game. And that's you know, that's what
we've seen when playing like quote unquote lesser competition. Turnovers
killed them in that Trailblazers game.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: And it's just not good. It's not it's not good behavior.
Speaker 6: M I can tell you what I can.
Speaker 5: Made things a little, made things a little too spicy
in the Raptors game.
Speaker 3: It's not good behavior. It's the best way to describe
turning the ball over too much. It's rotten, Adam, Sorry,
go ahead.
Speaker 6: Now. The worst thing I could see happening is John
Collin goes for twenty five and twelve and all we
get is a bunch of trade for John Collins stuff.
The very next day.
Speaker 5: We got that available. Come to fifteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can I just think about can I underst you
in one very fresh PJ Tucker did John Collins thing.
I'm like, maybe he just isn't good enough to play
for teams that are contenders. I don't mean that districtfully
to John Collins. He's bounced like it's just it is
what it is.
Speaker 6: He's their leading scorer right now, not Marketing, not Sexton,
and he's actually shooting fifty two percent from the field
and thirty eight percent from three on three attempts per game.
But they're awful.
Speaker 3: He's Also, he is point four points ahead of Lori
Marketen for points per game.
Speaker 6: I just didn't expect I mean marketing. I expected to
get twenty two plus a game. He's at what seventeen?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Cavante George is your Cante George is taking
the most field goal attemps. This team is broken, but
this team has got Collin Sexon is very annoying to
play against. Right, Like we've watched Jordan Clarkson torchs this
team before. There's some bugaboots with this Jazz team.
Speaker 6: This says real trap potential. I don't think this mad, honestly.
You look at their roster the way they started the
last two seasons hot with a lot of the same guys,
but this year they're starting so slow.
Speaker 3: Thankfully, after a potential trap game, they get to play
the Warriors, who are nine to two and have two
days of rest before playing the Clippers and our top
five in offensive and defensive rating. The Warriors win is
looking like the best win on the Clippers record right
now by quite a bit.
Speaker 6: Dane Young was right, I don't know about.
Speaker 3: That, Will. What are you looking for in this Warriors game? Sorry?
What big win?
Speaker 7: Win?
Speaker 3: Thanks?
Speaker 6: Coach?
Speaker 3: You're the coach where they have You're the coach where
they have to have team meetings every three weeks because
they're like, dude, he's just telling us to go out
there and win. There's noos. Sorry, I trust my guys.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: This is this is a team that is hitting a
different stride than when we played them earlier in the year.
Steph is still Steph. He's rejuvenated from taking Clay Thompson's
manna uh in Dallas Phoenix down.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They turned the ball over a town the last time
we played him twenty one times. We killed them. We
beat them in second chance points.
Speaker 6: Buddy had a really bad game against Clips.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's been not having bad games since then.
They're sixth in pace. They take the fourth most free
throw at types per game. We got to take care
of business on Sunday, is what this game is telling me.
Speaker 6: Win tomorrow, beat Utah. See what happens against the Warriors
and you're five hundred at least.
Speaker 3: We're right back at it, baby, like we never left.
Do we think I mean, is Mobaba gonna get called
up before this back to back? Do we think he
looks good in the for the SD Clips.
Speaker 6: My guess is he plays in one of those games.
Speaker 3: I mean we might. We're gonna need it, man, like
getting back to my Nico. But tone point can't ye.
Speaker 5: I mean he's he's good to go, like there's no
concern of reinjury, and he's even like seventy. I think
it's it's time to introduce him to some some some
big team minutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Jazz would be a nice team to get
Mobamba back for. I say, on Thursday.
Speaker 6: Night, Oh, somebody's gonna stop John Collins. I'm irrationally confident.
I'm irrationally intrigued by Mobiba. I should not be as
interested as i I am and what he could be
as a clipper because he's playing a lot of minutes
in the NBA, but he's still twenty six. I'm like,
got that three point shooting, it's kind of interesting. Is
there more potential there?
Speaker 3: The three point shooting is interesting. It's the defense and
the lack of any reliable post move. I understand the intrigue.
I watched way I dove way too deep into the
mobile possibilities.
Speaker 6: Did you think about the play for Jeff Van Gundy's
do you hate him?
Speaker 5: Mobima?
Speaker 9: Does?
Speaker 3: I did not. Actually, that is an incredibly good point.
Speaker 5: Mobamba has a lot of people who hate him.
Speaker 3: Yes, every time we post about him on the Clippers Pod,
there's like a flood of replies. We're like two bad
he sucks ass, And I'm.
Speaker 6: Like, whoa those Kai Jones fans or yeah, yeah they're all.
Speaker 3: They're all kai Jones fans. People are just like, my
expectations are very low, and I'm like, look, it's what
are we expecting here, Like, just soak up eight and
a half minutes. We're not I'm not asking him to
come out and crush I think we said then, we
say that if his stat line was like four and
two and eight minutes, we'd all be pretty okay with that.
Speaker 5: Look man, with Kai out of the rotation seemingly, uh,
we don't know if that's permanent, but we need something
there and it doesn't even have to be exceptional.
Speaker 3: It just has to be not that not garbage is
what we're looking for. And I don't mean that it
sounds very disrespectful. I understand that. I don't mean it disrespectful.
Speaker 6: What if serviceable is the new exceptional?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's a backup center. You
guys like it's not you know, I don't I don't
know why why the Clippers like continually fumble on this,
but like it doesn't need to be. You know, you
don't need to reinvent the wheel here. You need a
seven foot guy to soak up some minutes. I mean
it's great, Yeah, exactly. You need a big body on
the floor for a gob of minutes. I don't know
why we get some of these guys who are negative rebounders,
and I don't know, I don't know, but I'm hoping
that we can just get yeah, serviceable minutes.
Speaker 6: I could see them being fine without Mobamba against Golden State,
but like you guys said, against Utah, that could be
a good game to get him reacclimated.
Speaker 3: Don't make Nico play like fifteen minutes of backup center
against the Jazz. You shouldn't have to. I know this
Clippers team, although some are saying it is our year,
we also have discussed that seating doesn't matter for that.
So this is a tee that's Will's take. This is
a team where it's like, this is not a team
that the Clippers should be like stressing over and Mobama
should get some minutes, Jordan Miller should get some minutes,
and then Monday we'll see what happens against the Warriors.
We are debuting in New Jersey, which is fun on Sunday.
The city.
Speaker 6: Can't lose in the new jerseys, No, and the Cord
come on. I love those live blue jerseys, honestly, I
love those ones. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Someone on Twitter was like, I wish they wouldn't have
recycled the last years, and I was like, I think
maybe we should put something into context. Is that they
have three brand new regular jerseys as well, so it's like.
Speaker 6: Maybe check out other teams city edition jerseys.
Speaker 9: They're pretty bad.
Speaker 3: A Celtics by a Celtics fan commedy. He's like, man,
he's like, these are sweet. I have to watch my
team play like the worst jerseys of all time every
time they come out with the City editions. Too many jerseys, man, agreed.
Don't even get me started. This started European soccer team
started doing a thing like ten years ago where they
just released a brand new home kit and a brand
new away kit every year, which is insane, which means
every year you have to buy a new jersey if
you want the most current jersey. I know you don't
have to do that, but one of the beautiful things
of a team having a set jersey is that you
buy it and then it doesn't look that different for
at least like ten to fifteen years. Now we're in
this like the University of Oregon also in the early tens,
ruined this as well, Thanks Chip, Thanks Chip, and mister Knight,
where it's just like, yeah, what if we had what
if we had fifteen jerseys every year? And you're like, no,
like skin me one, be nice to the consumer, which
they never are. But I'm wildly off topic here. So
we're predicting split this back to back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and against Houston. So therefore split against Houston eight
and Eate by the time Tuesday's over or Monday's over,
let's do it. Sign me up, dude, eight, Nate tread
water great treadwater.
Speaker 3: Right there in the middle. Not bad, not good, but
it's not bad.
Speaker 6: It is those Eastern Conference teams, huh what about those
A holes? Where are they doing?
Speaker 3: Look at one of them in particular, you losers? All right,
that about wraps it up. We're calling it people losers.
I'm ranching about unethical marketing practices by Soulis Corporations. We're
probably gonna be doing some postgame live hangs after the
Sunday and Monday stuff Friday, TBD. Who knows, one of
us will probably be on the radio full episode on
Tuesday to talk whatever happens in the back to back
and then kind of a brutal run coming up against
the Magic and the Kings. Will. Now that it's winter
and people like to gather around the fire and discuss
their interests in their lives, what is a piece of
information that some of our listeners could share with the
other people around the fire.
Speaker 5: Oh, you should tell your fire mates to check out
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That's at Clippers Podcast. Yeah, however, however you enjoy the show,
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Speaker 3: However you enjoy your fires, we appreciate. Sometimes it's arson
I don't know, sometimes it's arson, sometimes it's little fires everywhere.
We do appreciate you and Adam. One positive thing to
send these clipfans off into this frigid weekend.
Speaker 6: Well, that new starting lineup plus fifteen and seventeen minutes.
I mean it's just seventeen minutes, but they have a
top thirteen net rating. They're thirteen, but it's gonna say
one of the twelve. Their offense is hung around seventeen
after the last couple of games, and the defense has
been just inside top ten. I don't hate it. That's
kind of what I don't know we're talking about coming
into this season. And if they can stay afloat, just
stay around five hundred, just get a couple more of
those wins against you know, some of the big boys
while taking care of your business against teams like the
Utah Jazz, and you're gonna be all right.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be all right. Hey we will Is. It's
gotta be so hard to watch these games for Will
because you just know it's gonna happen at the end
of the season. Zen Like discipline I do have to do.
I never do this. I am plugging a thing. There's
a giant new exhibit opening and like common hangout area
happening at the Natural His Museum at watched in La
over An Expo park. Come hang out on Sunday. It's free.
It's gonna be a fun time. There's food vendors, you
get to see a seventy five foot green dinosaur skeleton.
It should be very fun. All right, we will be
back soon and as always, let's go Clips