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Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna have to do like I don't know,
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Speaker 2: that crazy ass moments that have that have happened.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you were to look back, though not necessarily moments. Boy,
Speaker 1: it's your favorite episode so far?
Speaker 2: Oh seriously, what's my favorite episode? So not necessarily when
Speaker 2: I've done just one in general?
Speaker 1: Okay, well, not even necessarily a favorite episode, favorite case?
Speaker 1: How's that? What's your favorite case? I have to go
Speaker 1: for me, it's Diatla Pass.
Speaker 2: The very first. That was the first one, wasn't it, Yes,
Speaker 2: first episode? You know what, I honestly think that this
Speaker 2: is like you probably wouldn't even guess this, but I
Speaker 2: think mine's the mad Trapper.
Speaker 1: Actually that was what I was going to guess.
Speaker 2: Oh seriously, Yeah, I don't know. That one was just
Speaker 2: like so entertaining to me.
Speaker 3: You were like enthralled by that bad ass for you
Speaker 3: of that, well, I just thought like, yeah, he had
Speaker 3: some serious issues, but like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I was just like I want to be
Speaker 2: a like I just know if I got lost in
Speaker 2: the woods that I would probably like maybe last to day.
Speaker 2: So the fact that he could last that long was
Speaker 2: freaking dope.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he did some crazy shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, speaking of crazy shit, we're going to rock a
Speaker 1: case today that is probably the worst case that we've
Speaker 1: done to date.
Speaker 2: So listener discretion advised.
Speaker 1: Listener discretion is very much so advised. This is a
Speaker 1: very graphic case that deals with heavy assault and even
Speaker 1: in cases sexual assault. So yes, so fair warning.
Speaker 2: Are we going to be able to sleep tonight. Maybe
Speaker 2: make sure your doors are locked.
Speaker 1: You might be able to sleep as long as you're
Speaker 1: not inside a Lulu Lemon store. Because this takes place
Speaker 1: inside a Lulu Lemon store.
Speaker 2: I love me some Lulu Lemon.
Speaker 1: You're wearing Lulu.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should probably just like be a.
Speaker 1: Spokesperson for them, Lululemon sponsor, Nicole sponsor this podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm literally wearing their pants every single.
Speaker 1: Day twenty four seven, like to bed.
Speaker 2: I don't wear their pants to bed.
Speaker 1: But you wear leggings to bed.
Speaker 2: Not always, and it's generally just like cheap ones.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, you guys hearing and buzzing. It's springtime, which means
Speaker 1: a lot of water draining from the snow melting, So
Speaker 1: our podcasts are probably gonna have that happening. Lots plus
Speaker 1: motorbikes running up and down the road by our house.
Speaker 1: It's that time of year. Yeah, So we're sorry for
Speaker 1: the background noise.
Speaker 2: Because there's I just have to say, there's some listeners
Speaker 2: that are like way down so sore. We still have
Speaker 2: snow just to let you know, get.
Speaker 1: Like half a foot of snow on our front lawn
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, So so we're still we're still thawing
Speaker 1: out of here.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm pumped, Lulu Lemon. Let's get on with.
Speaker 1: This, lululin Oh I just realized, did I actually write
Speaker 1: down the year this took place?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I did? Okay? I was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: don't think I wrote down the year. No I did.
Speaker 1: I'm good, panic averted. Okay, So this takes place in twenty.
Speaker 2: Eleven, Okay, not very long ago.
Speaker 1: Not very long ago. No, So it's March twelfth. The
Speaker 1: store manager at a Bethesda Lululemon store in Maryland, Washington.
Speaker 1: D You see Rachel o' hurtley, I think is how
Speaker 1: you pronounce her name. So that's the manager. She arrived
Speaker 1: to open the store.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: She arrived shortly before eight am, and she found the
Speaker 1: store was unlocked and the lights were on. Creepy, right,
Speaker 1: totally weird. It's supposed to be locked up. Well yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: clearly something's not right. So however, she found the store
Speaker 1: like that. But Rachel entered the store and immediately noticed
Speaker 1: the place was a mess, and she heard some moaning
Speaker 1: coming from the back of the store.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I already think that's gross. But I don't
Speaker 2: even know.
Speaker 1: What my first instincts might be I need to call
Speaker 1: fucking Ghostbusters. Her first instincts where I'm getting the fuck
Speaker 1: out here, which is probably the better call.
Speaker 2: I feel like I would have had to go check
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 3: But okay, what's this mysterious moaning coming from the back
Speaker 3: of the store here, Scooby Dooby doo just all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, the gang just gotta find this person back
Speaker 3: here making the noise.
Speaker 1: Well, she made the right call, though she didn't call
Speaker 1: the Scooby Dang Scooby Dang Scooby Gang or the Ghostbusters.
Speaker 1: She exited and went to call nine one one right away. Okay, however,
Speaker 1: next to the Lululu I'm gonna mess up Lululemon lots,
Speaker 1: I know it.
Speaker 2: You have to say that word slowly.
Speaker 1: Next to the Lulu Lemons store, there's three l's. It's difficult.
Speaker 1: Was an apple store. And when Rachel left the Lulu
Speaker 1: Lemon store, she saw a man by the name of
Speaker 1: Ryan how Hug. I'm not sure how to pronounce his name.
Speaker 1: H A U G h Hug Hug.
Speaker 2: I think hug.
Speaker 1: I think I don't know hug. We'll say hug Ryan Hug.
Speaker 1: She didn't know this guy, but he did work next door,
Speaker 1: and she quickly got his attention and asked him to
Speaker 1: go inside the Lulu store with her, so you know,
Speaker 1: in case there's someone there or in case someone needs help.
Speaker 1: That was her first thing. Why they're to go inside. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the two entered the store and Ryan proceeded to
Speaker 1: go to the back where Rachel heard the moaning in
Speaker 1: the hallway. He saw a body lying face down in
Speaker 1: is a bloody mess in the hallway, and he shouted
Speaker 1: for Rachel to call the police. And then he also
Speaker 1: spotted another person tied up but still alive in the bathroom.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: That's what she found going to work at the Lululemons store.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, that's like the opposite of what you would
Speaker 2: ever think to you.
Speaker 1: Find right now. I don't know if this is a Monday,
Speaker 1: but you think your Mondays are bad?
Speaker 2: Like, holy shit, how did they even get in?
Speaker 1: But okay, so the day before, oh it's Wednesday, so
Speaker 1: it would have been a Thursday, not a Monday.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, So.
Speaker 1: The day before was Wednesday, March eleventh, twenty eleven, thirty
Speaker 1: year old Jana Murray was working the Bethesda Lulu Lemon store.
Speaker 1: Jana was working here part time as she was attending
Speaker 1: John Hopkins University pursuing two master's degrees. Wow, a Master
Speaker 1: of Business Administrators Administration. I can't talk today. I'm pulling
Speaker 1: a you in episode.
Speaker 2: Five, no mine better.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough? So a master's of Business Administration
Speaker 1: and a master's of Arts and Communication. She only had
Speaker 1: two months left before she graduated. It's impressive, right, two
Speaker 1: masters at one time. M So. She loved yoga, however,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like her main passion, but it did bring
Speaker 1: like a lot of calmness to her life, and she
Speaker 1: loved working at the store and incorporating into her life
Speaker 1: sort of thing.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's almost a pre wreck for that story, I.
Speaker 1: Think so, I really do think so.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, like needless to say, she'd love working for the company. Right.
Speaker 1: Her and her coworker, Brittany Norwood, who is a twenty
Speaker 1: nine year old, finished work at the store at nine
Speaker 1: forty five. Jana was the keyholder and would lock up
Speaker 1: the store once they left. Like that's kind of how
Speaker 1: how she rolled. She was a keyholder. Lock up do
Speaker 1: you think right?
Speaker 2: Sounds about right?
Speaker 1: So that's the two people the police found inside the
Speaker 1: store when they arrived on March twelfth.
Speaker 2: Oh it was them.
Speaker 1: It was those two. They found Jana Murray laying face
Speaker 1: down in a bloody hallway and Brittany Norwood in the
Speaker 1: bathroom alive. She had her hands tied with zip ties
Speaker 1: from the store over her head, cuts on her bodies
Speaker 1: and a two inch laceration from her hand running parallel
Speaker 1: along her thumb, and the crotch of her pants were
Speaker 1: ripped open.
Speaker 2: Oh shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's kind of a horrific fucking scene.
Speaker 2: And that was just like all night.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh okay, we're gonna get into that a little bit,
Speaker 1: but just to kind of paint a little bit of
Speaker 1: a picture here, and we're definitely not putting these on Instagram,
Speaker 1: but I did see some crime scene photos. The mess
Speaker 1: of blood in the hallway is it's like a freaking
Speaker 1: Saw movie Like it splattered like four or five six
Speaker 1: feet up the walls, like it's brutal.
Speaker 2: Really, Yes, oh that does paint quite the picture.
Speaker 1: It's insane.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, So inside the store, the police also found that
Speaker 1: the safe had been emptied and there were two sets
Speaker 1: of bloody footprints throughout the store. Later at the hospital,
Speaker 1: police spoke to Brittany and she told them what happened.
Speaker 1: She said that once they closed the store, herself and
Speaker 1: Jana parted ways, but shortly after she realized she forgot
Speaker 1: her wallet in the store and called Jana, because you know,
Speaker 1: Jane is the one who has the key. He told her, right,
Speaker 1: She's like, can you come back to the store, let
Speaker 1: me in get my wallet sort of thing, and Jana agreed,
Speaker 1: drove back to the store and then went back inside.
Speaker 2: Oh that super sucks. So she wouldn't have forgot her wallet. Yeah, shit,
Speaker 2: wouldn't have gone down.
Speaker 1: And when they went back inside, they were followed back
Speaker 1: inside by two men. Oh no, the men once answered
Speaker 1: the store, grabbed them, bound them, and began to sexually
Speaker 1: assault both of them. However, Brittany said that Jana resisted
Speaker 1: and fought back, and so the again they began their
Speaker 1: brutal attack on her. Oh so she like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: so this is like a dire, dark situation here.
Speaker 2: It's like life or death.
Speaker 1: Oh definitely, yeah, And this is where we're going to
Speaker 1: get into kind of how brutal the attack on Jana was.
Speaker 1: Her autopsy showed that Jana Murray sustained up to one
Speaker 1: hundred and five defensive wounds holy, which are arms and legs,
Speaker 1: indicating she was fighting back.
Speaker 2: She put up a good fight.
Speaker 1: That's only defensive wounds. She sustained at least three hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty one injuries before she died. Really, well, then
Speaker 1: let me say that again. At least because some wounds
Speaker 1: can be overlapping. So at least three hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: one injuries before she died. She was alive for all
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty one plus injuries.
Speaker 2: Holy, So she's alive. Tough cookie.
Speaker 1: Hey, yes, so Jana is our badass of the day.
Speaker 1: Just saying one hundred and five defensive wounds and being
Speaker 1: able to withstand that much.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, like it's impressive, but also like, oh, like
Speaker 2: the poor thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's ridiculously dark. It's I can't fathom having to
Speaker 1: go through something like that.
Speaker 2: No, but also like, if you have to, I think
Speaker 2: it's better to probably go out with a fight than oh.
Speaker 1: Always fight. And Jana fucking fought, Yeah she did. According
Speaker 1: to Jana's medical examiner, Mary Ripple, bruising and bleeding around
Speaker 1: the wounds indicated that Mary or that sorry Jana had
Speaker 1: her last name written down here. It threw me off
Speaker 1: for a second that Jana was alive during the attack.
Speaker 1: She and to quote her, she had a pulse, she
Speaker 1: had a blood pressure, she was bleeding into the wounds.
Speaker 1: She was alive, so there is evidence to say that
Speaker 1: she was alive. Among her injuries, Jana sustained multiple cuts, bruises, abrasions,
Speaker 1: cutting wounds, cutting wounds, Like, how disgusting is that? Not cuts? Cutting?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, I didn't even know what you meant by that.
Speaker 1: That's gross, Like sawing back and forth. Holy frig Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fucked.
Speaker 2: These are freaking screwed. Eh, Yeah, Like what the heck?
Speaker 1: Six blunt force wounds to her head and another blunt
Speaker 1: force wound that crushed her skull, a stab wound to
Speaker 1: her shoulder, one to her lower back, and two to
Speaker 1: the back of her head. Ah Like, holy fuck. Mary
Speaker 1: Ripple also said that ultimately Jana was killed by a
Speaker 1: knife wound to the back of the neck that pierced
Speaker 1: her brain, an injury which she could have only survived
Speaker 1: less than a minute. She also said that there was
Speaker 1: at least five weapons used in the attack, amongst ones
Speaker 1: present later in the case was a hammer, wrench, a rope,
Speaker 1: a peg from a mannequin, and god knows what else. Wow,
Speaker 1: So like this is fucked up, totally fucked.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I can't believe it is. How brutal these
Speaker 2: attackers were.
Speaker 1: Oh, it was ridiculous, like and like I said, you
Speaker 1: look at those pictures, it really puts it into perspective
Speaker 1: how fucking hard like harsh this was. Because you can understand, okay,
Speaker 1: getting hit, but like I said, the blood splatters up
Speaker 1: the wall like six fucking feet. So with the hits
Speaker 1: going like that and everything, it's just fucking It turns
Speaker 1: my stomach to think that there's a fucking person or
Speaker 1: person's capable of anything.
Speaker 2: Like this, No kidding, Okay, So that moaning then, oh sorry,
Speaker 2: I don't know if this's jumping ahead, But was that
Speaker 2: Britney moaning? Then yes, that would have been okay because
Speaker 2: what's her name? Jane? Jana? Jana? She was already dead? Yes, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So when it came to brittany, hold on where am
Speaker 1: I here? I'm looking at my notes, I'm lost?
Speaker 2: What? Oh finely spot.
Speaker 1: Okay, So she was tied up, she was raped and
Speaker 1: sexually assaulted with a wooden clothes hangar from the store
Speaker 1: as well, And she had a few cuts and minor
Speaker 1: abrasions on her body.
Speaker 2: So she other than I guess the fact that she
Speaker 2: was raped, she wasn't didn't have as yes, wasn't beaten
Speaker 2: as much.
Speaker 1: Her wounds I have it written later on in my
Speaker 1: notes here, but her wounds, according to the police a
Speaker 1: medical examiner, are quote unquote superficial wounds.
Speaker 2: Oh okay.
Speaker 1: And of course, like this being as bad as this was,
Speaker 1: the town of Bethesda, like was fucking shook. Well, yeah, like,
Speaker 1: could you imagine like something happening that in your local
Speaker 1: local city, even if you're working like a couple blocks
Speaker 1: away from something like this where someone was beaten to
Speaker 1: death with over three hundred and thirty one fucking attacks.
Speaker 2: Is it a big city? Well, I guess it didn't
Speaker 2: be a decent size of Adelula Lemon.
Speaker 1: Actually I didn't look at the population or anything, to
Speaker 1: be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So maybe if you guys want to look it up
Speaker 1: for us, shoot a message on Instagram, because I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna look it up. I'm gonna see if someone actually
Speaker 1: messages us. Now it's a test, it's a test, okay.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the town was like fucking shook. Restaurants were
Speaker 1: reporting a fifty percent decrease in sales. Oh wow, stores
Speaker 1: were closing early. People were refusing to work the night shift,
Speaker 1: like they're afraid that this is going to happen to them.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, no quick because lots of times, like it
Speaker 2: says she being a store owner, they had to closing
Speaker 2: to make it like safer.
Speaker 1: Oh and it didn't matter.
Speaker 2: But that didn't It didn't matter in the least.
Speaker 1: Did not matter in the least. It still happened. Someone
Speaker 1: was still brutally killed. There was even civilians going around
Speaker 1: like talking to store owners sold ski masks because the
Speaker 1: two individuals who broke in were wearing ski masks. So
Speaker 1: they're like talking to people like did you sell ski
Speaker 1: masks to people recently? Like what do they look like
Speaker 1: and everything? And this is civilians in their own time
Speaker 1: asking this.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, so.
Speaker 1: Like they're really trying to figure this out. And it
Speaker 1: was like all over the news. It fucking shook the town.
Speaker 1: I think, like my stumbling and muttering is it's because
Speaker 1: I'm thirsty as fuck.
Speaker 2: Well I have a drink, I have.
Speaker 1: Cotton melth already, and it's just like bothering me. But
Speaker 1: I can't. It's really hard to drink when you're talking.
Speaker 2: You don't drink enough water.
Speaker 1: I don't think you drink drink beer. I drink enough
Speaker 1: beer in the same whiskey, not the same. I mean
Speaker 1: there's water in it. It counts.
Speaker 2: I don't think it does.
Speaker 1: It's got to count for something.
Speaker 2: I don't think it does, though, well it should.
Speaker 1: I'm on the beer diet. Okay. Anyways, back to it.
Speaker 1: With the Apple store being right next to the Lulu Lemon,
Speaker 1: the detectives on the case went right there right away
Speaker 1: for security footage because Lulu Lemon didn't have any They
Speaker 1: didn't have any They didn't have any.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I thought you almost had to have
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: Now, well this was twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they.
Speaker 1: Went there for the security footage because lul Lemon didn't
Speaker 1: have theirs. And they also learned that the day of
Speaker 1: the attack, the Apple store actually had the release of
Speaker 1: the iPad two that same day, so there was employees
Speaker 1: at the store quite late.
Speaker 2: Oh really, yes, oh.
Speaker 1: Shit, So there were employees at the store when the
Speaker 1: attack occurred.
Speaker 2: Which is so surprising that they didn't hear anything.
Speaker 1: Oh, they did hear things. Oh they heard grunting, high
Speaker 1: pitched squeals, thudding, dragging, and one employee even recalls talking
Speaker 1: to a manager and the security of the store as
Speaker 1: they heard someone say God help me, please help me,
Speaker 1: and they.
Speaker 2: Just decided to do fuck off.
Speaker 1: And they did nothing? What the hell nothing?
Speaker 2: Why would they do nothing? Like would it have really
Speaker 2: taken that long just to call nine one one?
Speaker 1: They just chalked it up to fucking I don't know what.
Speaker 1: But these guys at the fucking.
Speaker 2: Store, do they typically hear that kind of shit on
Speaker 2: a Wednesday night?
Speaker 1: I would assume the answer is no, but I'm guessing maybe.
Speaker 1: But like, how do you do nothing when someone says
Speaker 1: God help me, please help me.
Speaker 2: That's actually really fucked up.
Speaker 1: It's so fucked because.
Speaker 2: Cow, could you even tell the police that and like say, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just decided to do nothing, but this is what
Speaker 2: I heard, right, Like I would feel like the biggest
Speaker 2: piece of shit. So oh man, I mean like the.
Speaker 1: One person even approached the manager and security and was like,
Speaker 1: I heard this, Like we should do something about that,
Speaker 1: and they're like, nah, Like what the security that's their
Speaker 1: fucking job, even job.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're probably just thinking they're just security of Apple,
Speaker 2: so so they're not going above and beyond or anything like.
Speaker 1: They're not security of shit. If you don't fucking call police.
Speaker 2: Or do anything, well, yeah, because you can. It's in
Speaker 2: your story. You're still hearing this exactly.
Speaker 1: Anyways, Oh, it's ridiculously brutal. Anyways, that aside the fucking
Speaker 1: idiocy of the Apple store in Bethesda. Aside, on the
Speaker 1: security footage out front of the Apple store, they found
Speaker 1: the footage of two men matching Britney's description, and that
Speaker 1: description was two men, one shorter, one taller, both wearing
Speaker 1: black clothes and scheme masks. Of course, in this footage
Speaker 1: they weren't wearing scheme masks and one had a backpack on.
Speaker 1: They seen those two individuals on this footage. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: and it was right around the time all this shit
Speaker 1: went down.
Speaker 2: Huh So like good, I hope it was good pictures.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll get we're getting right into it. You're always
Speaker 1: jumping ahead, and because I just I need to just know, well,
Speaker 1: if you stop talking, you'll let me keep talking and
Speaker 1: you'll find the fuck out. Okay. Anyways, detectives began staking
Speaker 1: out the Lululemon in hopes that these two individuals would return.
Speaker 1: Oh lone, and behold, they did return.
Speaker 2: That's stupid.
Speaker 1: Well, police immediately approached them and showed them the pictures
Speaker 1: of the security footage and was like, cello, is this
Speaker 1: you too, motherfuckers? And the guys are like, yeah, that's us.
Speaker 1: But we're just two bus boys who work at a
Speaker 1: nearby restaurant. And the police are like, okay, convenient, But
Speaker 1: they look into their alibis, the albis all check out.
Speaker 1: They were walking home from work and to and from work.
Speaker 1: Everything checks out. Oh it wasn't. These two guys just
Speaker 1: quite the fucking convenient.
Speaker 2: That sory.
Speaker 1: But there was another suspect in the case. I'm it's
Speaker 1: another convenient one. It was brushed off real quick, so
Speaker 1: I'm not going to dive into it too much here,
Speaker 1: but it was a local homeless man by the name
Speaker 1: of Keith. He was ruled out real quick as well.
Speaker 1: So they're back to square one, okay, And this is
Speaker 1: happening like real fast too, Like we're only on like
Speaker 1: day one so far of this happening.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I would have liked them to just find
Speaker 2: these mofos quick yeah, but that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna start winding up onto it a little
Speaker 1: bit here. There's some clues that start popping up that
Speaker 1: might lead us to what we Well, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: stop it there. So now the crime scene's been getting
Speaker 1: processed a little bit and they have found a few things.
Speaker 1: For the bloody footprints, they match one of them to
Speaker 1: a size fourteen pair of shoes that was found inside
Speaker 1: the store. The shoes were bloodied and there was an
Speaker 1: attempt to wash the rubber of the soles and clean
Speaker 1: them and they were put back onto a shelf.
Speaker 2: Oh, like it was someone. It wasn't the Lulu shoes.
Speaker 2: It was like someone's shoes that they just left.
Speaker 1: We're not sure. There's a size fourteen pair of shoes
Speaker 1: that matched the footprint. They're bloodied up and they're washed
Speaker 1: and stowed away.
Speaker 2: In the store.
Speaker 1: There were bloody footprints all around the store and a
Speaker 1: sign of struggle and some blood at the front door,
Speaker 1: but none outside the front door. They also found several
Speaker 1: murder weapons inside the store and all of them belonged
Speaker 1: to the store, as well as the zip ties that
Speaker 1: were used to bound Britney.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's too bad.
Speaker 1: The safe at the store was also emptied of all
Speaker 1: its contents, so it was robbed. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I mentioned that already did? Yeah, I did, Okay a
Speaker 1: little bit, I'm repeating myself. I'm sorry for that. Okay,
Speaker 1: double information. In case you missed it the first time,
Speaker 1: you now got it the second time. So there's some
Speaker 1: weird things going on that police weren't quite sure what
Speaker 1: to do with. So they're like, we need to go
Speaker 1: to talk to Brittany and see we can get like
Speaker 1: the story here and if she can help us put
Speaker 1: in the little blanks to this that were not quite good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's interesting to it would be interesting, you
Speaker 2: know what their motive was, like, is it just a robbery?
Speaker 2: But then to do that kind of fucked up shit too.
Speaker 1: Well, so far we have two guys who robbed the place,
Speaker 1: who raped and killed, and we're about to learn here
Speaker 1: how radical they were and racist. They were talking to
Speaker 1: Brittany because Brittany was someone of color as well, So
Speaker 1: you have like the worst fucking human beings possible. Yeah
Speaker 1: here in this situation.
Speaker 2: I already thought that, but I guess they just got worse.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah. So they they go on, they
Speaker 1: try and talk to Brittany, and it's like, okay, we've
Speaker 1: got to figure some of this out. They see her
Speaker 1: at her house two days after the attack, and they
Speaker 1: asked her about the shoes and she said they're actually
Speaker 1: little lemon shoes that they sell at the store. Oh
Speaker 1: so the shoes belonged to the store.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: They asked her more questions about the attack, and they
Speaker 1: couldn't quite understand why, Oh, way to go.
Speaker 2: It's not the dogs, it's me way to go.
Speaker 1: Anyways, a little bump of the mic. What was I saying? Now?
Speaker 1: Oh right? They couldn't understand why Jana was so brutally attacked,
Speaker 1: and yet Britney got away with what police called superficial wounds.
Speaker 2: That's coming up because I was wondering that, but I
Speaker 2: didn't see. I didn't ask a question there.
Speaker 1: Good job, good job. So Britney said that the men
Speaker 1: told her she was and we start getting a little
Speaker 1: bit into a little I didn't quote a lot of
Speaker 1: the racists and brutal quotations here, but she said that
Speaker 1: she was quote unquote fun to fuck as far as
Speaker 1: the men told her, and that they were going to
Speaker 1: keep her alive. She said they continued to sexually assault
Speaker 1: her and called her demeaning names like dirty slut and
Speaker 1: as well as some extremely harsh racial slurs. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not going to repeat these slurs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: Yes. She also revealed that the men at one point
Speaker 1: even shoved her onto Jane's body while she was laying
Speaker 1: in the hallway.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: The new Information police still couldn't make much sense of
Speaker 1: it all, and they were beginning to suspect Brittany of lying.
Speaker 2: Really yes, really really, Okay, that takes a turn that
Speaker 2: I didn't expect.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a couple of things here. One of the
Speaker 1: first things that they noticed on the scene was Britney's
Speaker 1: hands tied with the zip ties. Right, Yeah, they weren't
Speaker 1: tied to anything. But they found her with her hands
Speaker 1: above her head and she's sitting down, laying against the wall,
Speaker 1: and she supposedly have been there all night. Why would
Speaker 1: her hands still be above her head. Why wouldn't you
Speaker 1: just bring your hands down into your lap, like.
Speaker 2: Because they were zip tied but you could still move them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's just at the wrists.
Speaker 1: They're bound together, but they're not bound to anything or
Speaker 1: restricted from movie.
Speaker 2: I don't know. My main thing is like, well, she
Speaker 2: was like in shock. They didn't know what the shit
Speaker 2: was going on, and she's just sitting there.
Speaker 1: But there's some things that, like the police are just
Speaker 1: like this doesn't fuck up. So there's now starting to
Speaker 1: suspect Brittany because.
Speaker 2: Of these things, and because she was the one that
Speaker 2: forgot her wallet.
Speaker 1: She was the one who forgot her wallet.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay.
Speaker 1: Their break in the case came when they found Jana's
Speaker 1: missing car three blocks away, because remember when they went
Speaker 1: back to the Lululemon store to get the wallet out,
Speaker 1: Jana drove her car there. It had since been missing
Speaker 1: since she parked it out front the store.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Okay, So.
Speaker 1: They found her car, and they collected some DNA from inside,
Speaker 1: some fingerprints from inside, a bunch of different evidence from inside,
Speaker 1: and they also found a hat in a back seat
Speaker 1: full of blood. Really, and there's a bunch of blood
Speaker 1: smears in the inside of the car as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's but okay, So it's like that they drove
Speaker 2: away in it the attackers maybe I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, potentially potentially, So they quickly went and ran DNA
Speaker 1: analysis and came back to the blood in the car
Speaker 1: was from Brittany Jana and the hat in the back
Speaker 1: seat was Britney's hat and it was full of blood
Speaker 1: as well. And they know what's Britney's hat because they
Speaker 1: tested the DNA, like from the sweat on the brim
Speaker 1: where your forehead touches.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that hat was actually physically Britney's hat.
Speaker 1: It was actually physically Brittany's hat.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, huh.
Speaker 1: So they now need to question Brittany again about this car,
Speaker 1: and especially since her DNA's in there, her hat's in there,
Speaker 1: there's some things like, Okay, we need to fucking check
Speaker 1: this shit out.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm really hoping that she wasn't part of this.
Speaker 1: So they called Brittany to the police station on March sixteenth,
Speaker 1: which is only four days after the whole attack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they told her they wanted to collect hair and
Speaker 1: fingerprints to rule her out from the crime scene. However,
Speaker 1: the police had ulterior motives. They wanted to question her
Speaker 1: and they want to try and catch her in a
Speaker 1: lie because if she's lying about anything, then they really
Speaker 1: know like she's hiding something. So they asked her if
Speaker 1: she knew what Jane's car looked like. She said no.
Speaker 1: First of all, it was parked out front the store.
Speaker 1: She came back to let you in the store. It
Speaker 1: was right fucking there.
Speaker 2: Well, and if they work together like she'd probably know
Speaker 2: what her coworker's car looks like.
Speaker 1: You think exactly? They asked her if she's ever been
Speaker 1: inside Jana's car. Brittany said no, nope, she's fucking lying.
Speaker 2: Okay. Oh man, I was really hoping that this wouldn't
Speaker 2: take this turn and stressing me out, but it's taken it.
Speaker 1: It's taking this turn. She's fucking lying.
Speaker 2: This is really messed up. Yes, I didn't expect this
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to break this to you,
Speaker 1: but she's fucking lying.
Speaker 2: What the frig.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. What do you want
Speaker 1: me to say?
Speaker 2: Well? I keep carry on here, okay.
Speaker 1: But the lies weren't enough to keep her in custody.
Speaker 1: The police knew she was lying, and they were certain
Speaker 1: of it. But Brittany is now like the one prime suspect.
Speaker 1: There's no way of holding her. So they, you know,
Speaker 1: they calmly understand this is a situation they don't let
Speaker 1: Brittany be aware that they are figuring this out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they let her go. Uh Now, I didn't know
Speaker 1: where to put this in, and this is one of
Speaker 1: the best places I think to put it in. There
Speaker 1: was no ever evidence of either girl being raped, as
Speaker 1: there was no semen found, just evidence of a sexual assault,
Speaker 1: so said Wooden Coat Hanger. So there's no evidence of
Speaker 1: ever there being a male presence in a sexual assault,
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say here.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I didn't go there.
Speaker 1: I could see that by your face.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, okay, I could see like.
Speaker 1: The gears turning and nothing was happening. So anyways, there
Speaker 1: was evidence of assault, but there's no evidence of seamen
Speaker 1: aka dudes being president president in the sexual assault.
Speaker 2: Really, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So police are trying to figure out how they could
Speaker 1: get Britney back to the police station so they get
Speaker 1: her to confess. They're like, we need to get her
Speaker 1: back here. We need to get her to confess to
Speaker 1: something that she's done. Otherwise, like, we don't have much
Speaker 1: on her. We have her some evidence of her in
Speaker 1: the fucking car and shit, and we know she's lying,
Speaker 1: but we we got nothing.
Speaker 2: I feel like, why would she confess though? So that's
Speaker 2: a terrible plan.
Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, So as they're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to get her to the police station, luck should
Speaker 1: have it, Britney's siblings call the police and they say
Speaker 1: that Brittany has more information that she didn't tell the
Speaker 1: police because she was afraid to share, and would like
Speaker 1: to come back to the police station to talk about it.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. Yeah, oh my goodness, we're her siblings in
Speaker 2: on it too.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, anyways, I'm gonna I'm gonna just stop that
Speaker 1: conspiracy right now. No, they were not.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I mean this is wild, Like, who knows
Speaker 2: what's going to happen next?
Speaker 1: Well, you're about to find out. Anyways. Meeting again at
Speaker 1: the police station, Brittany went to the station with her
Speaker 1: brother and her sister, and then she told police that
Speaker 1: she totally forgot but suddenly remembered that the two men
Speaker 1: actually forced her to move Jane's car.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I would that's something that you.
Speaker 1: Would just forget, right, like you totally just like, oh
Speaker 1: slipped my mind if I forgot that, Yeah, oh my god, Like,
Speaker 1: are you fucking kidding?
Speaker 2: Me, I feel like that that's a pretty big thing
Speaker 2: that would happen, or that you would just not forget.
Speaker 1: Ever, so what she said is that the two men
Speaker 1: told her they knew her name, they knew where she lived,
Speaker 1: and they will be watching her and she needs to
Speaker 1: move that car and if she tries anything when moving
Speaker 1: the car, they will kill her. So she moved the
Speaker 1: car alone while the two men waited at the store
Speaker 1: with Jana, hold the fucking phone right, like what, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm just okay. The two guys holding me hostage are
Speaker 1: gonna give me a getaway car and I'm gonna drive
Speaker 1: three blocks away and walk back and put myself.
Speaker 2: Back into their Like what, yeah, just free on my
Speaker 2: free will just walk back right, not call the police
Speaker 2: or do anything.
Speaker 1: Makes zero sense, Yeah, zero fucking sense. Brittany also said
Speaker 1: that she saw a police officer while moving the car,
Speaker 1: but didn't say anything because she was afraid for her life,
Speaker 1: so she didn't speak up and didn't ask for help.
Speaker 2: Oh that that just like would be perfect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, okay, but she did exactly what the
Speaker 1: two men wanted, drove the car away life yeah, and
Speaker 1: then walked back to the store, back into their hands. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now police can actually confirm that there was an officer
Speaker 1: that she saw because an officer actually saw her too,
Speaker 1: sitting in that car parked where it was found. An
Speaker 1: officer saw a woman parked in that car in that spot.
Speaker 2: Okay, but I guess it wouldn't look suspicious or anything
Speaker 2: to him at that point.
Speaker 1: No, it's just a woman at a car.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now he's like, oh wait, I saw that car and
Speaker 1: I saw a woman sitting there once they found it,
Speaker 1: right right, So there's some shit going down, and police
Speaker 1: weren't buying anything that Brittany had, and so now they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is fucked up. You are in her car, you
Speaker 1: transferred the fucking blood. You are clearly lying, we're fucking
Speaker 1: holding well, yeah.
Speaker 2: Because she had prior to even said she didn't know
Speaker 2: what the vehicle looked.
Speaker 1: Like exactly, and that she's never even been in it
Speaker 1: and anything, and now she's fucking driving it codd and
Speaker 1: fucking Jane's blood.
Speaker 2: Like what, Yeah, this is really getting fishy here.
Speaker 1: So they tried to get her to confess using different
Speaker 1: tactics like being playing like a good cop back cop
Speaker 1: sort of thing, being like, we know you fucking did
Speaker 1: it ra rah rah, like intimidating her and other tactics
Speaker 1: like you know, it's okay, you know it happens like
Speaker 1: something like shit happens. It was an accident, it's okay,
Speaker 1: Like just tell us what happened. Nothing fucking worked. She's
Speaker 1: stuck to her guns and she kept fucking saying I
Speaker 1: didn't do it, I didn't do it. This is what happened.
Speaker 1: I told you what happened.
Speaker 2: I would have thought that she would have like have breaked,
Speaker 2: break that broke. At that point, they would have broke her.
Speaker 1: She would have done it, get broken.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to say that.
Speaker 1: The police decided that they're going to keep questioning her,
Speaker 1: but they also decided that it was they're going to
Speaker 1: tell her sister and brother what they suspect.
Speaker 2: Of Brittany interesting, okay.
Speaker 1: Britney's sister immediately like crumbled and couldn't fucking take it,
Speaker 1: couldn't take the news basically right. And her brother was like,
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I don't believe it. I need
Speaker 1: to talk to my sister. Give me a moment with
Speaker 1: my sister alone. I want to talk to her.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So the police actually allowed the brother into the interrogation
Speaker 1: room alone with Brittany.
Speaker 2: But they're listening.
Speaker 1: I hope they definitely. Oh it's a fucking interrogation room.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, you can't go into an interrogation room
Speaker 1: and not expect there to be fucking mikes and cameras
Speaker 1: and shit.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, some people I think actually would probably
Speaker 2: not clue in that they're listening.
Speaker 1: These two don't.
Speaker 2: Okay, see, I just like, I actually I don't think
Speaker 2: that that's as common as you think. Then, well that
Speaker 2: you were setting it up.
Speaker 1: The brother began to talk with Britney, but she didn't
Speaker 1: want to talk at all. She's leary that the police
Speaker 1: were listening, and he's like, no, they're not listening, and
Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, well probably not, but like just in case,
Speaker 1: and anyways, they start talking regardless. It's a lot I
Speaker 1: could find a lot of different quotes on things that
Speaker 1: were said in there. A lot of it was just
Speaker 1: banter back and forth. But the key thing here is
Speaker 1: that basically this is a confession tape where there's little
Speaker 1: bits of information that she gives here and there that
Speaker 1: essentially write the whole story on what happened.
Speaker 2: Really, yes, oh see, I'm just shocked because I think
Speaker 2: it's common sense that you wouldn't say anything there. But
Speaker 2: they say common sense, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's clearly not. But like her brother was
Speaker 1: like he was actually convinced that she did do it.
Speaker 1: He told the police that he was convinced that she didn't.
Speaker 1: But when he got in there, he's like, I fucking
Speaker 1: know you did this, Like what the fuck happened? He's
Speaker 1: grilled in her heart trying to get the info. He's like,
Speaker 1: we need I need to know what you did to
Speaker 1: help you, right, Yeah, what he said. He's like, we're
Speaker 1: going to get into a defense attorney and one of
Speaker 1: the quotes I did pull up is, quote unquote, you're
Speaker 1: going to have to be very honest with us. It
Speaker 1: doesn't look good because you tried to cover it all up.
Speaker 1: He also asked, shoplifting, is that what this is all about?
Speaker 1: Brittany said, I didn't take anything. Another long story short,
Speaker 1: Britney has a very very bad rap of shoplifting and theft. Really,
Speaker 1: oh yes, She's actually even been fired from another Lululemon
Speaker 1: previously for stealing from the store.
Speaker 2: O fact, so they must not keep track of like
Speaker 2: employees or something.
Speaker 1: Ain't I guess not. But she stolen from friends in
Speaker 1: the past, coworkers, sports team mate, sports teammates in high school.
Speaker 1: Like she like people know, she fucking steals. She's even
Speaker 1: had like a best friend in college who was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was really good friends with her, and like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do with her because she's
Speaker 1: just that fucked up and steals.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I liked her at the beginning at all,
Speaker 2: not even remotely.
Speaker 1: Here, well, once we paint the entire picture, you might
Speaker 1: learn just how bad she fucking is. We're getting to
Speaker 1: it though. We're getting to it though.
Speaker 2: Oh I already thought you'd painted it. But okay, carry on.
Speaker 1: Well, we're like right there, give us like a minute
Speaker 1: to just wrap this up before we're at that. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, the conversation between these two essentially ends
Speaker 1: up being the confession tape, the smoking gun that police
Speaker 1: need it and this is what they they now know
Speaker 1: Brittany did this so on trial, this is the picture
Speaker 1: that they painted. This is what they believe happened. Okay
Speaker 1: from all the evidence, the confessions and everything.
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to hear it.
Speaker 1: Are you ready for it?
Speaker 2: Though? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it. I need a sip of beer first.
Speaker 1: If we played ads, this would be a good time
Speaker 1: for an ad. Okay. So while leaving the store, each
Speaker 1: employee at the Lululemon is to check each other bags
Speaker 1: to ensure there is no theft, okay, And inside Britney's bag,
Speaker 1: Jana found a pair of yoga pants. Brittany claims she
Speaker 1: purchased them from the manager, but Jaana made her call. Sorry,
Speaker 1: made a call to the manager and asked her, did
Speaker 1: Brittany buy these pants from me?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: No, she didn't, okay, So she looked it up in
Speaker 1: the system. There was no record of any payment and
Speaker 1: Brittany didn't have a receipt a k A. You fucking
Speaker 1: stole them.
Speaker 2: And this is probably like as they're locking up, that
Speaker 2: they're that she's checking.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Jana reports it to the manager and just kind
Speaker 1: of leaves it with that, and she's like, it's out
Speaker 1: of my hands, like you're trying to steal shit. I'm
Speaker 1: doing my job. I reported it that it is what
Speaker 1: it is. Well, they'll deal with it tomorrow or another
Speaker 1: day or whatever. So they leave the shop and lock up.
Speaker 1: Then Brittany calls Jana back because she quote unquote forgets
Speaker 1: her wallet as Jana has the key, because oh.
Speaker 2: See, that even shows how much of a good person
Speaker 2: she is. Right, this bitch just stole, but she's still
Speaker 2: gonna go back and let her get her wallet. Geez.
Speaker 1: Now, I totally call fucking bullshit on the forget her
Speaker 1: wallet thing. In that interrogation tape with her brother, she say,
Speaker 1: I actually forgot my wallet. I still call fucking bullshit
Speaker 1: on it. Oh no, yeah, but I totally think this
Speaker 1: is premeditated.
Speaker 2: I think so too, or even in that time spend,
Speaker 2: she was like, I need to get her back to
Speaker 2: the store.
Speaker 1: Oh exactly, that's premeditation right there.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 1: So Jana agrees and they returned fifteen minutes later to
Speaker 1: re enter the store. Jana, inside the store was then
Speaker 1: struck from behind on the back of the head, which
Speaker 1: is where the first strike medical examiner believes took place
Speaker 1: with a weapon, and a struggle ensued. Jana tried to
Speaker 1: escape out the front door. As there was a bloody
Speaker 1: handprint of hers on the front door and evidence of
Speaker 1: a struggle, along with hair being ripped out from both
Speaker 1: people at the front door. They believe Jana managed to
Speaker 1: get free ran towards the back door, which was at
Speaker 1: the end of a hallway. She had made it to
Speaker 1: the door as there was another bloody handprint on that
Speaker 1: door from her, okay, but she didn't manage to open
Speaker 1: the door or escape. There in the hallway is where
Speaker 1: the brutal and bloody attack occurred, using multiple weapons weapons
Speaker 1: over the course of three hundred and thirty one strikes,
Speaker 1: of which she was alive for every single geeze.
Speaker 2: And is this just Brittany doing this? This?
Speaker 1: This is just Brittany, you're kidding me?
Speaker 2: Hey? Nope, okay, I thought there had to have been
Speaker 2: at least someone else involved.
Speaker 1: Nope.
Speaker 2: Good lord.
Speaker 1: Once she had killed Jana, she moved her car to
Speaker 1: ensure no one saw it parked out front the store
Speaker 1: to buy herself time to cover up this whole fucking incident.
Speaker 1: She drove it three blocks away and walked back, bloody
Speaker 1: as fuck to the store to get to work.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: There, she ransacked the store to make it look like
Speaker 1: a robbery occurred, that there's more people in there. Whatever.
Speaker 1: She walked around in the blood with her own shoes
Speaker 1: to create a trail of bloody footprints, then put on
Speaker 1: a pair of size fourteen men's shoes from the store,
Speaker 1: carefully followed her own tracks around the store to make
Speaker 1: it look like a pair of people.
Speaker 2: We're chasing her or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, because the first pair of her footprints
Speaker 1: were just the other dudes she was gonna blame it on.
Speaker 1: Oh so the size fourteen men's shoes was a second guy, remember,
Speaker 1: a taller guy and a shorter guy, right, So she
Speaker 1: made sure she followed the same pair to make it
Speaker 1: look like the guys were walking around in a pair.
Speaker 1: She then cleaned the shoes in the sink and put
Speaker 1: the men's shoes back on the shelf and her own
Speaker 1: back on her feet. How the fuck are you going
Speaker 1: to cover up that? Like you think they're not going
Speaker 1: to find that? Shit?
Speaker 2: Really putting her own back on that right right?
Speaker 1: Like, I just don't like, what, what the fuck is
Speaker 1: this bitch thinking?
Speaker 2: She was of some serious rage issues?
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, yeah, there's actually I was waiting for a
Speaker 1: good time to say it. Now is the best time.
Speaker 1: There was an incident where she had an ex of hers,
Speaker 1: a dentist dude or something like that. They split up
Speaker 1: and he, you know, found a new girlfriend sort of thing.
Speaker 1: And she actually was like fucking hardcore stalking these two.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: And she actually like broke into their apartment and stole
Speaker 1: some shit out of there, and there was a restraining
Speaker 1: order put on them. And only a few days after
Speaker 1: the restraining order, they saw her parked in a fucking
Speaker 1: car outside his dentist office, fucking watching them. They went,
Speaker 1: they laughed. Immediately she followed them home and they had
Speaker 1: to fucking called cops on her because she broke the
Speaker 1: restraining order and was following them. They were fucking fearing
Speaker 1: for their life. This dentist even said she had an
Speaker 1: She was known for being abusive in the relationship, kicking, punching.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, so she's a crazy she's fucking straight up psycho.
Speaker 1: I wanted to say this at the very beginning, but
Speaker 1: I mean, got to paint a good story.
Speaker 2: Is she like a like I don't even know how
Speaker 2: to say. This's not like big, but like.
Speaker 1: Oh no, she's a very petite girl.
Speaker 2: Okay, because I'm like, is she like freaking like six
Speaker 2: or five? Like what kind of woman is.
Speaker 1: She's a very petite girl?
Speaker 2: Oh god, ysh Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: So after all this staging, the bloody foot prints and everything.
Speaker 1: She ripped the crotch of her own pants, cut herself
Speaker 1: with a razor and if yeah, cut herself with a
Speaker 1: razor in several different places, superficial wounds because she's not
Speaker 1: going to fucking go hardcore on herself, right Yeah, and
Speaker 1: used a wooden coat hanger, a foreign object to sexually
Speaker 1: assault herself and Jana.
Speaker 2: Oh I was waiting for that. Oh so she did
Speaker 2: it to Jana too.
Speaker 1: I should actually clarify on that one. I'm assuming she
Speaker 1: did it to Jana. I couldn't find any facts on
Speaker 1: if she did or didn't, but I'm going to assume
Speaker 1: she did, because if she's going to do it to herself,
Speaker 1: I would assume she would do it to Jena probably
Speaker 1: post mortem.
Speaker 2: Was Jane smaller than her? Like, I just can't believe
Speaker 2: how wild she is.
Speaker 1: I think Jana was actually larger than she is.
Speaker 2: She's drinking.
Speaker 1: I've watched a YouTube video of Jana's where she was
Speaker 1: celebrating her thirtieth birthday and she went bungee jumping. Actually
Speaker 1: it's up on YouTube. Oh so maybe we'll post that
Speaker 1: in the link down below.
Speaker 2: So this just this chick is just a wild like
Speaker 2: wild thing.
Speaker 1: She's sucking trash. Fuck this bitch.
Speaker 2: Jana had no idea like like she was just like
Speaker 2: Jana was just doing that job hard completely.
Speaker 1: Jana was actually not even supposed to be working with.
Speaker 2: This and beyond her job. And she went back to
Speaker 2: let this bitch in.
Speaker 1: But did you hear me? Jana wasn't even supposed to
Speaker 1: work that shift?
Speaker 2: What did someone call him sick?
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was calling sick or a
Speaker 1: switch shift, but she had picked up this shift somehow
Speaker 1: and she was working this shift, so she was just
Speaker 1: put in the situation.
Speaker 2: Stories like that, I'm sorry, like they could have been
Speaker 2: doing something else and yet they are in this oh
Speaker 2: like that, like they said, there in this position and
Speaker 2: they couldn't didn't have to be like I hate that,
Speaker 2: you mad bro. Well it's almost but I mean you'd
Speaker 2: probably be able to come up with something like for
Speaker 2: every murder or whatever, right too. Yeah, but it's always
Speaker 2: like that. Oh, they were actually supposed to be here,
Speaker 2: but this happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the final part to this, she then zip
Speaker 1: tied her own hands together with zip tize she found
Speaker 1: in the shop, just like all the weapons she found
Speaker 1: in the in the Lulu Lemon store shop whatever, and
Speaker 1: then sat down in the bathroom and waited for the
Speaker 1: next manager to come in in the morning to find them.
Speaker 1: And remember how I said her hands were found above
Speaker 1: her head. Yeah, and that moan that they heard when
Speaker 1: they first opened the shop. Yeah, that's her just playing victim.
Speaker 2: Being pathetic, exactly. And she probably took everything at herself
Speaker 2: then from the safe, yeah exactly, and sat there with
Speaker 2: this poor, like brutally murdered person all night. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: that psycho.
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, it's beyond psycho.
Speaker 2: That is psycho.
Speaker 1: Britney's defense in court, this is actually kind of funny,
Speaker 1: was only that it was not premeditated, because she was
Speaker 1: so fucking deep in this they couldn't. That was their
Speaker 1: only defense that it wasn't premeditated. They said that she snapped,
Speaker 1: and that Brittany attacked Jaena in the heat of the
Speaker 1: moment and lost control.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure that's happened.
Speaker 1: However, there's an account that after the trial, the judge
Speaker 1: went home, took an object, sat at his dining room table,
Speaker 1: and struck his dining room table three hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: one times and timed himself how long it would take.
Speaker 1: It took him ten minutes to complete the task, hitting
Speaker 1: the table consecutively. Yet Britney got up, found other objects,
Speaker 1: went back to it, got up, found something else, went
Speaker 1: back to it. She was beating the fuck out of
Speaker 1: Jana lifeless for god knows how long. How is that
Speaker 1: in the heat of the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because when a victim has such so much
Speaker 2: wounds and like stuff like that, the attackers has something
Speaker 2: like then, oh yeah, right, that they're releasing, like get
Speaker 2: some serious anger problem or something.
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit. If you hate someone, you
Speaker 1: don't fucking beat the shit out of them three hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty one times till they die.
Speaker 2: Like that's nuts, Right.
Speaker 1: If you hate someone, you go home and scream into
Speaker 1: your pillow and drink a couple fucking drinks and watch
Speaker 1: a fucking murdered doc on Netflix, Like that's what you
Speaker 1: do and hate someone.
Speaker 2: Who was it that did the dining room thing?
Speaker 1: The judge after your trials.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting, this poor dining room table.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm sure he put like a jacket down or something, right, Yeah, Anyways,
Speaker 1: Britney was found guilty for the murder of Jane and
Speaker 1: Murray in the first degree with life in prison and
Speaker 1: no chance of parole.
Speaker 2: Good, good, good. So she's still in prison.
Speaker 1: Oh she's fucking in prison for life.
Speaker 2: Wow, she's she.
Speaker 1: Deserves fucking a lot more, but she's at least getting that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that is the Lulu.
Speaker 2: I'm also still mad at the Apple store, right, how can.
Speaker 1: You not fucking report that? Shit?
Speaker 2: I can't believe that.
Speaker 1: If there's if there's one thing anyone takes away from this,
Speaker 1: fucking speak up, Like.
Speaker 2: If even if you have the tiniest sense that something's off,
Speaker 2: like it's cold or help.
Speaker 1: Like what are you gonna lose?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Nine one one? Yeah, there's someone saying, God, please help
Speaker 1: me next door if you.
Speaker 2: Want to just come check it out for me, please, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And the police officer would be like, heck, yeah, I'll
Speaker 2: be there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What's the worst that can happen? You're wrong?
Speaker 2: Oops, you heard something funny that wasn't happening.
Speaker 1: It's actually just two people boning next door, my mistake,
Speaker 1: Like who know, Like you know, it's what what's gonna
Speaker 1: go wrong? The best thing that can happen is you
Speaker 1: save a fucking life.
Speaker 2: Could have saved a life, Yeah, because yeah, that she
Speaker 2: sounded like she was good, a good person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Janu Murray was, as far as I can tell.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure I link that video down below.
Speaker 1: I went and I said a little little thing on
Speaker 1: there and a little rest in peace. Oh did you
Speaker 1: maybe everyone else can do the same too.
Speaker 2: It's on YouTube.
Speaker 1: It's on YouTube. Yeah. Okay, So to our badass of
Speaker 1: the day, JANEA.
Speaker 2: Murray, no kidding, cheers to her.
Speaker 1: To her, and make sure you guys.
Speaker 2: Stay wicked, Make sure you stay wicked.
Speaker 1: Smooth,