WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.720 --> 00:00:05.320 Hey everyone, I'm Nicole and I'm Ben, and you're listening 2 00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:08.240 to Wicked and Grim. 3 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:11.320 A true crime podcast morning. 4 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:17.760 The following podcast content and material intended for a mature 5 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:39.320 audience listener discretion. Yes, okay, right away, right away, we're 6 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:43.359 over a thousand listens. Yes, as of this exact moment 7 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:45.880 of recording this, we're actually at eleven hundred and forty four. 8 00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:47.759 I didn't want to even like say hello, I just 9 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:49.159 want to drop that right away. 10 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:50.479 You're just dropping the bomb. 11 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:51.920 I was excited to say it. 12 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:53.640 You didn't want me to say it. 13 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:55.679 If you want, Kay, we can restart this and you 14 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:56.640 can say it if you want. 15 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:58.600 I'm just kidding. No, it's very exciting. 16 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:00.560 No one called DIBs on it, so I just rolled 17 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:03.439 with it, you know. But yes, thank you guys for 18 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:06.599 giving us all the support and the listens and everything. 19 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:08.280 It means a lot. 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So go over to Instagram, message us, comment, 32 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:41.760 share stories, whatever it is, and recommend a story and yeah, 33 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:43.959 we'll talk back to you. We won't talk back to you, 34 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:45.560 but we'll talk back to you. You know what I mean. 35 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:46.319 We'll talk with you. 36 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:48.159 There, we'll talk with you. 37 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:49.000 We'll talk with you. 38 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:51.319 Nicole is the word smith today. 39 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:54.680 Today for ones. For ones, Let's note this. 40 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:58.840 Yes, she's not mispronouncing words yet and saying orgasm instead. 41 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:01.480 She's got this rolling with it. She's doing good. 42 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:03.840 Oh, we're gonna have to do like I don't know, 43 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:07.359 after a certain number of episodes, like uh, what would 44 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:10.280 that be called look a look back or something? All 45 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:13.479 that crazy ass moments that have that have happened. 46 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:16.479 Okay, if you were to look back, though not necessarily moments. Boy, 47 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:18.719 it's your favorite episode so far? 48 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:23.759 Oh seriously, what's my favorite episode? So not necessarily when 49 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:25.240 I've done just one in general? 50 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:27.759 Okay, well, not even necessarily a favorite episode, favorite case? 51 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:33.199 How's that? What's your favorite case? I have to go 52 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:35.280 for me, it's Diatla Pass. 53 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:37.520 The very first. That was the first one, wasn't it, Yes, 54 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:39.840 first episode? You know what, I honestly think that this 55 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:41.759 is like you probably wouldn't even guess this, but I 56 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:43.080 think mine's the mad Trapper. 57 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:45.400 Actually that was what I was going to guess. 58 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:48.520 Oh seriously, Yeah, I don't know. That one was just 59 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:49.759 like so entertaining to me. 60 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:52.400 You were like enthralled by that bad ass for you 61 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:54.919 of that, well, I just thought like, yeah, he had 62 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:58.439 some serious issues, but like, oh, I don't know. 63 00:02:58.479 --> 00:02:59.840 I think I was just like I want to be 64 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:01.520 a like I just know if I got lost in 65 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:04.039 the woods that I would probably like maybe last to day. 66 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:06.080 So the fact that he could last that long was 67 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:06.879 freaking dope. 68 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:09.319 Oh yeah, and he did some crazy shit. 69 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:09.919 Yeah. 70 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:14.000 So, speaking of crazy shit, we're going to rock a 71 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:17.360 case today that is probably the worst case that we've 72 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:18.120 done to date. 73 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:20.719 So listener discretion advised. 74 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:24.240 Listener discretion is very much so advised. This is a 75 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:28.680 very graphic case that deals with heavy assault and even 76 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:34.039 in cases sexual assault. So yes, so fair warning. 77 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.240 Are we going to be able to sleep tonight. Maybe 78 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:38.680 make sure your doors are locked. 79 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:40.439 You might be able to sleep as long as you're 80 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:43.599 not inside a Lulu Lemon store. Because this takes place 81 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.080 inside a Lulu Lemon store. 82 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:47.599 I love me some Lulu Lemon. 83 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:48.520 You're wearing Lulu. 84 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:50.919 Yeah, I should probably just like be a. 85 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:56.319 Spokesperson for them, Lululemon sponsor, Nicole sponsor this podcast. 86 00:03:56.960 --> 00:03:59.319 I'm literally wearing their pants every single. 87 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:01.159 Day twenty four seven, like to bed. 88 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:03.080 I don't wear their pants to bed. 89 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:04.479 But you wear leggings to bed. 90 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:08.199 Not always, and it's generally just like cheap ones. 91 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:12.319 Gotcha, you guys hearing and buzzing. It's springtime, which means 92 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:15.000 a lot of water draining from the snow melting, So 93 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:17.920 our podcasts are probably gonna have that happening. Lots plus 94 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:20.519 motorbikes running up and down the road by our house. 95 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:23.480 It's that time of year. Yeah, So we're sorry for 96 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:24.480 the background noise. 97 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:26.600 Because there's I just have to say, there's some listeners 98 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:29.720 that are like way down so sore. We still have 99 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:31.000 snow just to let you know, get. 100 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:32.439 Like half a foot of snow on our front lawn 101 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:35.920 right now. Yeah, So so we're still we're still thawing 102 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:36.519 out of here. 103 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:39.439 Okay, I'm pumped, Lulu Lemon. Let's get on with. 104 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:41.800 This, lululin Oh I just realized, did I actually write 105 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:42.839 down the year this took place? 106 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:42.959 Oh? 107 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:44.399 I did? Okay? I was like, oh my god, I 108 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:46.120 don't think I wrote down the year. No I did. 109 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:51.120 I'm good, panic averted. Okay, So this takes place in twenty. 110 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:52.560 Eleven, Okay, not very long ago. 111 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:55.680 Not very long ago. No, So it's March twelfth. The 112 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:59.759 store manager at a Bethesda Lululemon store in Maryland, Washington. 113 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:03.000 D You see Rachel o' hurtley, I think is how 114 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.800 you pronounce her name. So that's the manager. She arrived 115 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:07.560 to open the store. 116 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:08.199 Okay. 117 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:11.759 She arrived shortly before eight am, and she found the 118 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:15.319 store was unlocked and the lights were on. Creepy, right, 119 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:18.720 totally weird. It's supposed to be locked up. Well yeah, yeah, 120 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:22.839 clearly something's not right. So however, she found the store 121 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.519 like that. But Rachel entered the store and immediately noticed 122 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:28.240 the place was a mess, and she heard some moaning 123 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:30.040 coming from the back of the store. 124 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:33.600 Oh yeah, I already think that's gross. But I don't 125 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:34.000 even know. 126 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.759 What my first instincts might be I need to call 127 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:40.240 fucking Ghostbusters. Her first instincts where I'm getting the fuck 128 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:42.079 out here, which is probably the better call. 129 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:44.319 I feel like I would have had to go check 130 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:44.639 it out. 131 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:49.439 But okay, what's this mysterious moaning coming from the back 132 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:54.120 of the store here, Scooby Dooby doo just all of 133 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:57.079 a sudden, the gang just gotta find this person back 134 00:05:57.120 --> 00:05:58.120 here making the noise. 135 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:01.160 Well, she made the right call, though she didn't call 136 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:04.680 the Scooby Dang Scooby Dang Scooby Gang or the Ghostbusters. 137 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:09.319 She exited and went to call nine one one right away. Okay, however, 138 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:12.839 next to the Lululu I'm gonna mess up Lululemon lots, 139 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:13.240 I know it. 140 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:14.639 You have to say that word slowly. 141 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:19.040 Next to the Lulu Lemons store, there's three l's. It's difficult. 142 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:22.120 Was an apple store. And when Rachel left the Lulu 143 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:24.319 Lemon store, she saw a man by the name of 144 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:28.600 Ryan how Hug. I'm not sure how to pronounce his name. 145 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:31.399 H A U G h Hug Hug. 146 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:32.040 I think hug. 147 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:34.680 I think I don't know hug. We'll say hug Ryan Hug. 148 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.240 She didn't know this guy, but he did work next door, 149 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.480 and she quickly got his attention and asked him to 150 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:43.000 go inside the Lulu store with her, so you know, 151 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:45.319 in case there's someone there or in case someone needs help. 152 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:47.759 That was her first thing. Why they're to go inside. Okay, 153 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:51.879 So the two entered the store and Ryan proceeded to 154 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:54.560 go to the back where Rachel heard the moaning in 155 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:58.360 the hallway. He saw a body lying face down in 156 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:02.199 is a bloody mess in the hallway, and he shouted 157 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:04.600 for Rachel to call the police. And then he also 158 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:08.439 spotted another person tied up but still alive in the bathroom. 159 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.040 Oh wow, Yeah, so. 160 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:16.040 That's what she found going to work at the Lululemons store. 161 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:19.879 Holy shit, that's like the opposite of what you would 162 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:20.839 ever think to you. 163 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:24.759 Find right now. I don't know if this is a Monday, 164 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:26.279 but you think your Mondays are bad? 165 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:29.199 Like, holy shit, how did they even get in? 166 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:34.079 But okay, so the day before, oh it's Wednesday, so 167 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:35.639 it would have been a Thursday, not a Monday. 168 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:36.879 Oh okay, So. 169 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:40.360 The day before was Wednesday, March eleventh, twenty eleven, thirty 170 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:43.720 year old Jana Murray was working the Bethesda Lulu Lemon store. 171 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.439 Jana was working here part time as she was attending 172 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:50.439 John Hopkins University pursuing two master's degrees. Wow, a Master 173 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:55.040 of Business Administrators Administration. I can't talk today. I'm pulling 174 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:56.240 a you in episode. 175 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.959 Five, no mine better. 176 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:04.360 Fair enough, fair enough? So a master's of Business Administration 177 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:07.800 and a master's of Arts and Communication. She only had 178 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:11.680 two months left before she graduated. It's impressive, right, two 179 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:16.079 masters at one time. M So. She loved yoga, however, 180 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:20.079 it wasn't like her main passion, but it did bring 181 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:21.720 like a lot of calmness to her life, and she 182 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:24.240 loved working at the store and incorporating into her life 183 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:24.680 sort of thing. 184 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:27.279 I feel like it's almost a pre wreck for that story, I. 185 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:29.360 Think so, I really do think so. 186 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:29.920 Yeah. 187 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.600 So, like needless to say, she'd love working for the company. Right. 188 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.600 Her and her coworker, Brittany Norwood, who is a twenty 189 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:40.159 nine year old, finished work at the store at nine 190 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:44.000 forty five. Jana was the keyholder and would lock up 191 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:46.799 the store once they left. Like that's kind of how 192 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:49.360 how she rolled. She was a keyholder. Lock up do 193 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:49.919 you think right? 194 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:51.120 Sounds about right? 195 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:55.720 So that's the two people the police found inside the 196 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:58.159 store when they arrived on March twelfth. 197 00:08:58.200 --> 00:08:58.960 Oh it was them. 198 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:02.559 It was those two. They found Jana Murray laying face 199 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:06.039 down in a bloody hallway and Brittany Norwood in the 200 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:10.039 bathroom alive. She had her hands tied with zip ties 201 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:13.679 from the store over her head, cuts on her bodies 202 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:17.039 and a two inch laceration from her hand running parallel 203 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:20.039 along her thumb, and the crotch of her pants were 204 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:20.679 ripped open. 205 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:22.240 Oh shit. 206 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:25.759 Yeah, so it's kind of a horrific fucking scene. 207 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:28.120 And that was just like all night. 208 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:33.000 Yes, oh okay, we're gonna get into that a little bit, 209 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.120 but just to kind of paint a little bit of 210 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:38.320 a picture here, and we're definitely not putting these on Instagram, 211 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:43.600 but I did see some crime scene photos. The mess 212 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:47.440 of blood in the hallway is it's like a freaking 213 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:50.960 Saw movie Like it splattered like four or five six 214 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:53.720 feet up the walls, like it's brutal. 215 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:58.440 Really, Yes, oh that does paint quite the picture. 216 00:09:58.559 --> 00:09:59.559 It's insane. 217 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:00.840 Wow. 218 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:04.080 Okay, So inside the store, the police also found that 219 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:06.600 the safe had been emptied and there were two sets 220 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:11.519 of bloody footprints throughout the store. Later at the hospital, 221 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:14.120 police spoke to Brittany and she told them what happened. 222 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:17.320 She said that once they closed the store, herself and 223 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:20.960 Jana parted ways, but shortly after she realized she forgot 224 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:23.840 her wallet in the store and called Jana, because you know, 225 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:26.200 Jane is the one who has the key. He told her, right, 226 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:29.240 She's like, can you come back to the store, let 227 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.080 me in get my wallet sort of thing, and Jana agreed, 228 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:34.720 drove back to the store and then went back inside. 229 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:39.399 Oh that super sucks. So she wouldn't have forgot her wallet. Yeah, shit, 230 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:40.559 wouldn't have gone down. 231 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:43.440 And when they went back inside, they were followed back 232 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:49.200 inside by two men. Oh no, the men once answered 233 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:53.600 the store, grabbed them, bound them, and began to sexually 234 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:58.919 assault both of them. However, Brittany said that Jana resisted 235 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:01.960 and fought back, and so the again they began their 236 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:06.960 brutal attack on her. Oh so she like, oh, okay, 237 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.440 so this is like a dire, dark situation here. 238 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:12.840 It's like life or death. 239 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.919 Oh definitely, yeah, And this is where we're going to 240 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:20.279 get into kind of how brutal the attack on Jana was. 241 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:25.559 Her autopsy showed that Jana Murray sustained up to one 242 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:32.080 hundred and five defensive wounds holy, which are arms and legs, 243 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:33.600 indicating she was fighting back. 244 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:35.320 She put up a good fight. 245 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:43.440 That's only defensive wounds. She sustained at least three hundred 246 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:48.159 and thirty one injuries before she died. Really, well, then 247 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:53.440 let me say that again. At least because some wounds 248 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:56.799 can be overlapping. So at least three hundred and thirty 249 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:03.399 one injuries before she died. She was alive for all 250 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:06.519 three hundred and thirty one plus injuries. 251 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:09.240 Holy, So she's alive. Tough cookie. 252 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:13.279 Hey, yes, so Jana is our badass of the day. 253 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:17.000 Just saying one hundred and five defensive wounds and being 254 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.519 able to withstand that much. 255 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:24.159 Wow, Okay, like it's impressive, but also like, oh, like 256 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:24.879 the poor thing. 257 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:29.720 Yes, it's ridiculously dark. It's I can't fathom having to 258 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:30.679 go through something like that. 259 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:34.559 No, but also like, if you have to, I think 260 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:37.960 it's better to probably go out with a fight than oh. 261 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:42.000 Always fight. And Jana fucking fought, Yeah she did. According 262 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:46.039 to Jana's medical examiner, Mary Ripple, bruising and bleeding around 263 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:50.440 the wounds indicated that Mary or that sorry Jana had 264 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:52.080 her last name written down here. It threw me off 265 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:55.159 for a second that Jana was alive during the attack. 266 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:58.519 She and to quote her, she had a pulse, she 267 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:01.480 had a blood pressure, she was bleeding into the wounds. 268 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:04.960 She was alive, so there is evidence to say that 269 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:12.000 she was alive. Among her injuries, Jana sustained multiple cuts, bruises, abrasions, 270 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:17.919 cutting wounds, cutting wounds, Like, how disgusting is that? Not cuts? Cutting? 271 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:20.960 Oh? Okay, I didn't even know what you meant by that. 272 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:26.039 That's gross, Like sawing back and forth. Holy frig Yeah, 273 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:26.840 that's fucked. 274 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:32.559 These are freaking screwed. Eh, Yeah, Like what the heck? 275 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:36.120 Six blunt force wounds to her head and another blunt 276 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:40.120 force wound that crushed her skull, a stab wound to 277 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:43.039 her shoulder, one to her lower back, and two to 278 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:50.320 the back of her head. Ah Like, holy fuck. Mary 279 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.399 Ripple also said that ultimately Jana was killed by a 280 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:56.480 knife wound to the back of the neck that pierced 281 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:59.159 her brain, an injury which she could have only survived 282 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:01.679 less than a minute. She also said that there was 283 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:06.159 at least five weapons used in the attack, amongst ones 284 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:10.159 present later in the case was a hammer, wrench, a rope, 285 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:16.159 a peg from a mannequin, and god knows what else. Wow, 286 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.600 So like this is fucked up, totally fucked. 287 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:22.440 Well, yeah, I can't believe it is. How brutal these 288 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:23.360 attackers were. 289 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:27.000 Oh, it was ridiculous, like and like I said, you 290 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:31.159 look at those pictures, it really puts it into perspective 291 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:38.000 how fucking hard like harsh this was. Because you can understand, okay, 292 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:40.360 getting hit, but like I said, the blood splatters up 293 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:44.159 the wall like six fucking feet. So with the hits 294 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:48.159 going like that and everything, it's just fucking It turns 295 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:51.399 my stomach to think that there's a fucking person or 296 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:53.960 person's capable of anything. 297 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:57.399 Like this, No kidding, Okay, So that moaning then, oh sorry, 298 00:14:57.480 --> 00:14:59.039 I don't know if this's jumping ahead, But was that 299 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:02.399 Britney moaning? Then yes, that would have been okay because 300 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:08.600 what's her name? Jane? Jana? Jana? She was already dead? Yes, yeah, okay. 301 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:13.159 So when it came to brittany, hold on where am 302 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:14.600 I here? I'm looking at my notes, I'm lost? 303 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:16.879 What? Oh finely spot. 304 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:22.519 Okay, So she was tied up, she was raped and 305 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:25.480 sexually assaulted with a wooden clothes hangar from the store 306 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:28.000 as well, And she had a few cuts and minor 307 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:29.080 abrasions on her body. 308 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:33.000 So she other than I guess the fact that she 309 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:37.720 was raped, she wasn't didn't have as yes, wasn't beaten 310 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:38.120 as much. 311 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:41.159 Her wounds I have it written later on in my 312 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.480 notes here, but her wounds, according to the police a 313 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.559 medical examiner, are quote unquote superficial wounds. 314 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:47.879 Oh okay. 315 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:50.799 And of course, like this being as bad as this was, 316 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:55.720 the town of Bethesda, like was fucking shook. Well, yeah, like, 317 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:58.399 could you imagine like something happening that in your local 318 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:01.279 local city, even if you're working like a couple blocks 319 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:03.879 away from something like this where someone was beaten to 320 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:08.039 death with over three hundred and thirty one fucking attacks. 321 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:10.159 Is it a big city? Well, I guess it didn't 322 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:11.799 be a decent size of Adelula Lemon. 323 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:14.519 Actually I didn't look at the population or anything, to 324 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:15.120 be honest. 325 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:15.639 Yeah. 326 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:17.039 So maybe if you guys want to look it up 327 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:20.720 for us, shoot a message on Instagram, because I'm not 328 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:22.360 gonna look it up. I'm gonna see if someone actually 329 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:27.200 messages us. Now it's a test, it's a test, okay. 330 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:29.879 But yeah, the town was like fucking shook. Restaurants were 331 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:34.360 reporting a fifty percent decrease in sales. Oh wow, stores 332 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:37.960 were closing early. People were refusing to work the night shift, 333 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:39.720 like they're afraid that this is going to happen to them. 334 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:41.759 Well yeah, no quick because lots of times, like it 335 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.039 says she being a store owner, they had to closing 336 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:46.200 to make it like safer. 337 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:47.519 Oh and it didn't matter. 338 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:50.080 But that didn't It didn't matter in the least. 339 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.600 Did not matter in the least. It still happened. Someone 340 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:58.000 was still brutally killed. There was even civilians going around 341 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:01.720 like talking to store owners sold ski masks because the 342 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:07.480 two individuals who broke in were wearing ski masks. So 343 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:10.960 they're like talking to people like did you sell ski 344 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:13.240 masks to people recently? Like what do they look like 345 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:15.279 and everything? And this is civilians in their own time 346 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:16.400 asking this. 347 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:18.480 Well yeah, so. 348 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:20.759 Like they're really trying to figure this out. And it 349 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:23.640 was like all over the news. It fucking shook the town. 350 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:29.039 I think, like my stumbling and muttering is it's because 351 00:17:29.079 --> 00:17:30.200 I'm thirsty as fuck. 352 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:33.960 Well I have a drink, I have. 353 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:36.359 Cotton melth already, and it's just like bothering me. But 354 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:39.119 I can't. It's really hard to drink when you're talking. 355 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:40.359 You don't drink enough water. 356 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:44.799 I don't think you drink drink beer. I drink enough 357 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:47.880 beer in the same whiskey, not the same. I mean 358 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:50.599 there's water in it. It counts. 359 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:51.640 I don't think it does. 360 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:53.440 It's got to count for something. 361 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:56.200 I don't think it does, though, well it should. 362 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:00.880 I'm on the beer diet. Okay. Anyways, back to it. 363 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:03.880 With the Apple store being right next to the Lulu Lemon, 364 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:06.880 the detectives on the case went right there right away 365 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:10.240 for security footage because Lulu Lemon didn't have any They 366 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:12.279 didn't have any They didn't have any. 367 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:14.279 Oh my goodness. I thought you almost had to have 368 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:15.079 that sort of stuff. 369 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:17.880 Now, well this was twenty eleven. 370 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:19.720 Yeah, So they. 371 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:23.119 Went there for the security footage because lul Lemon didn't 372 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.759 have theirs. And they also learned that the day of 373 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:29.440 the attack, the Apple store actually had the release of 374 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:33.039 the iPad two that same day, so there was employees 375 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:34.200 at the store quite late. 376 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:38.079 Oh really, yes, oh. 377 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.920 Shit, So there were employees at the store when the 378 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:43.160 attack occurred. 379 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:45.200 Which is so surprising that they didn't hear anything. 380 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:49.559 Oh, they did hear things. Oh they heard grunting, high 381 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:54.640 pitched squeals, thudding, dragging, and one employee even recalls talking 382 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:57.480 to a manager and the security of the store as 383 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:01.079 they heard someone say God help me, please help me, 384 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:02.400 and they. 385 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:04.279 Just decided to do fuck off. 386 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:07.759 And they did nothing? What the hell nothing? 387 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:10.880 Why would they do nothing? Like would it have really 388 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:12.680 taken that long just to call nine one one? 389 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:14.920 They just chalked it up to fucking I don't know what. 390 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:16.799 But these guys at the fucking. 391 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:19.319 Store, do they typically hear that kind of shit on 392 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:20.160 a Wednesday night? 393 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:24.839 I would assume the answer is no, but I'm guessing maybe. 394 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:27.839 But like, how do you do nothing when someone says 395 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:30.279 God help me, please help me. 396 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:32.319 That's actually really fucked up. 397 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:34.279 It's so fucked because. 398 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:38.119 Cow, could you even tell the police that and like say, yeah, 399 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:40.000 I just decided to do nothing, but this is what 400 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:43.599 I heard, right, Like I would feel like the biggest 401 00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:47.960