Speaker 1: This is the Dana Show.
Speaker 2: My name is Craig Collins, filling in, thrilled to be
with you. A bunch of stuff out there to talk about.
I have audio AOC, audio Hunter Biden, and even audio
James Carville that I probably should play. And then I
do want to talk about The Odyssey, which I still
haven't seen, but I know a lot of people have.
Before I do any of that, let me just play
this real quick first too. This is a cheme Jeffries
starting the pivot, as I call it. I like to
quote Ross from friends when I scream it anytime that
Democrats inevitably try to shift away from the thing that
they've definitely been doing, or at least been encouraging for
quite some time, and pretend now that they're suddenly against.
In this case, it's fraud. A lot of Democrat enabled
fraud in a bunch of places. Is now the kind
of thing that they're promising to fight. Pivot hard at keem, Jeffries,
pivot hard.
Speaker 3: Here we go, and I'll promise to the American people
is that we will hold the crooks accountable.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, Like you.
Speaker 3: If you're a crook in the United States of America,
all right, and you've been stealing from the American people.
We're coming after you.
Speaker 2: If that were actually true, all of DC would be
arrested today, like the next step in that. If you're
a crook stealing from the American people, A Pelosi's in
the whoscal for the rest of her life. I mean,
this is what happens here. How rich are you again,
a caem How rich is everybody that gets sent off
to DC?
Speaker 1: And how did you get there? That's the kind of
thing I'd like to see.
Speaker 2: But he'll say it out loud as we know, and
I use the example of friends for some reason, that
couch got stuck. Man that did not make it all
the way up the staircase. This is not going to
go the way that they're actually planning it. Well, they
won't hold anybody accountable and they'll keep stealing. Also, Hunter Biden,
who did an interview with Don lemon I, was talking
about how his dad obviously didn't have any control over
the DOJ.
Speaker 1: Which is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I'll play a little bit of this, but my favorite
part is when Hunter acknowledges that he had a sweetheart
deal for a short amount of time before media talked
about it so much, and it looked so embarrassing that
the deal inevitably went away, and it partially went away
because Hunter wouldn't take it. The thing that almost nobody
remembers is that as they were going through the plea
agreement in a courtroom, it was Hunter and his lawyer
who pushed back on certain aspects of.
Speaker 1: It that made the whole thing worse for him.
Speaker 2: And he could have got away with it if it
wasn't for those darn kids or in this case, I
guess people like me who were ad nauthium talking about
how ridiculously insane he was being treated in a positive way.
Speaker 1: And he pretends that never happened.
Speaker 4: In the Department of Justice, that he had no control
over that. And you know how I got evidence of that.
I got indicted twice. You deserved had a plea agreement
after I had a deal, if sopecial counsel was appointed
by Mary Carlan, and then I had to go to
trial as the son of the president. And whether you
think of it or not, all, one thing that does
prove is that my dad never picked up the phone
and called Mary Carlin.
Speaker 2: Actually, anybody in the Department of Justice pretty sure, he
called it multiple times actually, and it didn't work out
as well as it wanted. And the reason why is
the pressure was way too crazy on all of it.
Speaker 1: So what did he do, by the way, on.
Speaker 5: Her house, you think he made the right decision by
pardoning you, Oh he did that, Thank God? Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know people expect me to also go like, well,
here's the one thing I know. I am incredibly grateful
for that pardon.
Speaker 1: Because I was real, real guilty. He didn't say that part,
but it should have been there.
Speaker 2: And the other reason that you don't pick up the
phone even more and demand that Garland do something a
different way is because you know you're sitting on the
parten and you told the American people time and again,
your White House press secretaries, everybody did that you'd never
pardon your kid, and then you definitely did that, or
well the auto ped I should say, did it before
Joe Biden left office. So this is in fact all
of the crap, all of the time that they do.
Let's also play the the AOC thing before I actually
get into let's go carvel. I'm done with AOC's happy
that she's potentially going to be the nominee in twenty
twenty eight, according to new polling information, And she does
say a lot of stuff about the dsay ors the
Democratic Socialists of America and how she likes to keep
them within her party and not kick them out, which
you really need to kick them out when they're talking
about closing all the jails. But anyway, we'll just skip that.
There's a little more audio out there if you want
to look for it. Here's Carvil going nuclear on all
of the terrible, horrible people that he's upset about, the
people that he calls.
Speaker 1: You know, I think white turns at one point in here.
Speaker 6: I'm going to read something to you, and I'm gonna
tell you why this is typical a progressive house Canada,
who's surgeon a battleground risk and Michigan is long deemocratic.
Party officials once said black us politically is are two
of them? To capitalist and peerless American established.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Jim Clive Than is part of that. Yeah, you're right,
that's exactly who Martin Luther King was. Oh my god,
you're right, that's who John Lewis and these people are paternalistic.
Speaker 6: It is a bunch of over educated, little white turds.
Speaker 1: Oh, tell us what you really feel.
Speaker 2: James Carville, he's crazy. This reminds me of James Tallerico,
who is running for the Senate here in Texas where
I live, who says that he often has to deal
with his own whiteness as a white guy. And apparently
Carvil is very upset about the over educated white turns
as he stares in the camera in a way that
to me, I'm worried about both his health and a
lot of other things going on, maybe in his mind,
but Carville's upset. Let's now pivot to the Odyssey. Here's
what I find most interesting about this discussion, and I
have not seen the movie yet. A lot of people
criticize the casting of several individuals in this movie before
it actually came out. And some of those who either
criticized it or maybe held their tongue and didn't say
anything until they got a chance to see it have
changed their tune. They've said that they believe it's not
quite as woke as it seems like it was. There
are still a lot of people who crap all over
Ellen Page being cast as a dude and wearing I
think a manned bodysuit or is that whatever I think
Walsh is about to say in audio, I'm going to
play with Matt Walsh from the Daily Wire. But here's
the thing, and this is what I find most interesting
about this the Odyssey is crushing it at the box office,
and oftentimes when I talk to people that criticize something
for being woke, the Barbie movie comes to mind to
me too. They're also really really hoping it fails, and
when it doesn't fail, that version of go woke, go
broke becomes less fun to talk about. And so part
of me thinks that maybe some people are changing their
tune on believing that this movie is a pile of
woke crap, partially because they lost the fight essentially, meaning
they're not discouraging anyone from seeing it. They're not controlling
the box office numbers of it, and so if you
look at all that data and say, all right, a
lot of people like this, you might go in differently.
Speaker 1: I didn't hate the Barbie movie. I did see that one.
Speaker 2: I thought it was anti I thought there were several
moments in the movie that seemed oddly, you know, bashing
on men for the sake of doing it, and if
I had a little kid, which I didn't, and I
had brought that kid to that movie, especially a little girl,
and she walks out disliking men more because of it,
I would have think something. I would have thought something
bad happened. And the same can be here in this movie.
If you go in and someone gets confused about some
of the odd choices that were made for woke reasons.
But Matt Walsh has actually seen it, he heavily disagrees
with Ben Shapiro. Both of them work at the same
place The Daily Wire. May be able to do a
show together where they argue out the differences. I know
for Shapiro, he said that the golden rule treat others
as you treat yourself has a pretty obvious through line
in a movie based on a poem that obviously very
much cares about that Zeus's Law. So and obviously for
me as a Christian, as a Catholic, I don't consider
it Zeus's law.
Speaker 1: I just consider it Golden rule.
Speaker 2: But there's a foundational element that should be in a
movie that anybody makes, Christopher Nolan or anybody else about
the Odyssey that props up that belief, that thought, even
the difficulty in returning home after the Trojan War is
caused by not following the Golden Rule. All of these
are things that are within the movie according to Shapiro,
which was important. But Walsh says, there's a lot that
takes you out of it, which makes it too difficult
to follow the things that you might have liked about it.
Speaker 1: So I find it very interesting.
Speaker 2: Is it woke in its casting and potentially some of
the ways it handles the source material?
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, including Walsh, would.
Speaker 2: Probably say yes, even if some think it's good enough
to ignore that stuff, which seems by and large to
potentially be Shapiro.
Speaker 1: But here's a little bit of what Walsh said.
Speaker 8: Now that I've actually seen the movie, I can definitively
say that every single criticism from conservatives was entirely correct
on every point. We were not only correct in our prejudgment,
but much more correct than we ever knew. You can
judge a book by its cover most of the time.
In the cover of this one had a gender confused
woman in a man costume and a race swapped Helen
of Troy. We judged those to be massive red flags,
and turns out we were right. The Odyssey is indeed
a three hour long middle finger to its source material,
to Western civilization, to white people, to Greeks, to literature,
and to movie making in general. It contradicts itself to
the point that every important aspect of the story, from
the plot to the theme to the characterization it sounds bad,
is reduced in coherence. The dialogue in the rare moments
where it's even intelligible, is often clunky and heavy handed
and wildly out of place. Most of all, the film
does not feel like a story set in the ancient world,
which is a fatal problem for a film set in
the ancient world.
Speaker 2: By the way, I read the entire take from Matt Walsh,
not just the stuff that went viral on the internet,
of what he said into a camera and a microphone,
And part of what he talked about is the casting
is so different than what would historically be accurate of
that time period, essentially casting more Greek actors for these roles,
which I think Elon Musk has said too that it
took him out of the movie every time he saw this,
because the collection of individuals is much more reflective of
the society we live in now. And I think one
of the things Walsh said is that, you know, obviously
planes must exist in Christopher Nolan's the Odyssey, because otherwise
people who look all different kinds of ways wouldn't all
be in the same spot. And that's a fine criticism.
I get it, it makes sense. It's one of several
ones you heard that Walsh has. But I am going
to go into the movie with an open mind, not
because of the popularity of it, but because of some
aspects of what I've heard in others like Shapiro say
that he actually likes about it.
Speaker 1: If it teaches the lesson.
Speaker 2: Of, you know, the importance of treating other people the
way you want to be treated. It is rare in
the sense that our society is so selfish now and
so obsessed with our own injuries, with our own verse
version of you know, I've been harmed, I'm the victim
here focused on me for this reason that something that
blames you for your mistakes or teaches you the lesson
of blaming you for mistakes is in fact valuable. Is
it annoying that there's aspects of this movie that might
be stupid, especially the beginning, which I think Walsh focused
on quite heavily at the beginning part of his written
takedown of the movie, the Ellen Page, Elliott Page is
what she goes by now casting in the individual that
pretends to be a dude, the gender swap, confused woman
in a man costume, as Matt Walsh calls her in
that part of the movie. Yeah, would that potentially be
jarring at the beginning for someone who knows all that?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: But I also seem to understand, and I think this
was from a Ben Shapiro's take exactly, that it's a
very short amount of time that you see Elliot Ellen
Page on the screen and then she goes away, And
so I don't know. I think I will judge the
movie as a whole. And as I said about the
Barbie Movie, which is the closest thing I can compare
this too. Not because it's similar, I pray to god
they're not similar at all. The odyssey in the Barbie
movie that would be something in our society. But the
reason is that it was criticized heavily for being woke
and still wildly popular from a box office standpoint, with
a lot of people saying that the woke complaints were overdone.
I did enjoy aspects of Barbie, and I probably will
enjoy aspects of the Odyssey based on all the different
takes on it. But I'm sure there will also be
moments where Walsh said, you might laugh out loud when
something funny is not intended because of how ridiculous something
seems because of a Hollywood decision that has nothing to
do with the source material itself. All right, take a break.
A lot coming up. This is well, very little coming up, actually,
with almost no time left. Craig Collins filling in on
The Dana Show.
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Speaker 2: This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in a thrill to be with you. So many
things out there for us discuss. AOC is being told
yet again that she is likely to be the twenty
twenty eight presidential candidate. The way that they're telling her
now is that they're saying she's leading in some polling
for the primary voting in New Hampshire. Way to go,
and you know, God bless you and all that stuff
is what I think a lot of conservatives say when
they hear that you might run against AOC, like, it's
crazy to think that that could actually be the candidate
that the left thinks is the best to get the
job done, because she's obviously insane and she said insane
things a whole bunch. I live in Texas and I'm
watching the debate in the Senate as Ken Paxton really great,
a person who's done a lot of valuable things in
the world of politics and fighting the Trump administrator, excuse me,
the Biden administration again and again and again when operating
in a different capacity here in the state now trying
to be a senator versus James Tallerrico, who a few
years ago said crazy, crazy stuff like God is non
binary and that is a thing that keeps going viral.
You wonder how easy it would be for the right
to run AOC against AOC, meaning that all of her
crazy clips come back to honor and all the ridiculous
stuff she said and things that she's done.
Speaker 1: That's why it's exciting.
Speaker 2: But here's AOC also being happy because of course she's
a politician who's told that people on her side wanted
to run for stuff. And I think I've heard I
don't know who it was. Maybe it was Ben Shapiro
that described politicians as all theater kids, and they definitely
all seem like theater kids. This is one of the
ways where it happens where any praise in your direction
you light up and can't wait to talk about it.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you saw there's a new
University New Hampshire poll showing you leading in the presidential
race in New Hampshire.
Speaker 10: What are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 11: You know, I think there's two things. One is that
you know as or poles, and a horse race is
a horse race, of course, I think very deeply humbled
and grateful right books participate and convey that confidence. I gotcha,
and you know it's I'm honestly, I think my main
focus is really genuinely just the midterms races.
Speaker 2: Is that really genuinely what it is, all you're thinking about,
all you're focused on is the mid terms. Great, just wonderful,
is the thing that I think I say, and a
lot of people say in response to that. But if
you want to run in twenty twenty eight, we're fine
with that too. And if Democrats actually would put you
forward as the candidate to run against, I couldn't wait
for a debate between a JD. Vance or a Marco Rubio,
whoever it winds up being. I've noticed that a lot
of people have an either or a kind of stance there,
but those are the two names that are most likely,
I think, to be running for that role. Even if
they say no right now, it doesn't matter versus AOC
both of those individuals, and a debate versus her would
be amazing by the way, the Left is now doing
their typical pivot in so many different capacities, whether it's
on wanting to hold people accountable for fraud, and they
seem to be the ones that turn a blind eye
to fraud and tell us that it's racist to hold
people accountable for fraud and all kinds of other things,
which is crazy. But now they're pivoting there. They're also
probably at some point, maybe after they win some races
that they probably shouldn't win in the world of the
midterm elections, they'll pivot away from democratic socialism because it's
a terrible plan on a national stage. It's a terrible
plan for a vast majority of Americas because we don't
like communism. But every time this happens, every time they
eventually start to like swing to the other way. I
always think of a Ross and friends, you're just yelling
this the whole time. In the corner, there's that one
member I think it was Pelosi for a while, who
knows who it is now maybe it's a Keem Jeffries,
which is like, please, guys, please do whatever we can.
Here's Jeffries doing a pivot in the world of fraud.
Speaker 3: And I'll promise to the American people is that we
will hold the crooks accountable.
Speaker 1: Will you.
Speaker 3: If you're a crook in the United States of America
and you've been stealing from the American people with your help,
We're coming after you.
Speaker 2: That's amazing, that's incredible. This is very similar to when
they through the doors wide open at the border. They're
like it'll be fine, it'll be great. All Americans will
love it if a whole bunch of people come into
the country illegally and then take all of our social services,
it'll be a very popular policy. And then it wasn't,
and then all of a sudden start yelling that again.
All right, that's an from us friends. He can stop
other things out there. I wish this was not, you know,
a thing that's as popular as it is. Right now,
the Don Lemon Show is going viral because of an
interview that he did with Hunter Biden, which is just
truly crazy. Like in a lot of ways, there's a
discussion about the amount of people in politics who are
gay and how there's like a gay cabal, although they
were careful in the world of anyone getting sued in
how they did that. And I'll play that audio in
a second, and I'll actually say this about the topic itself.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 2: It's not to me a crazy salacious thing if it
is true, or if it's completely false, And I don't
know why they behave.
Speaker 1: That way as if it is.
Speaker 2: Of course, if somebody's doing illegal things in that world,
that's very different in a world in any capacity. Anything
you're doing illegal I want you to not do, but
anything that also is happening in your life that is
not in fact against any kind law.
Speaker 1: I don't give a crap about that. So I don't
even know why.
Speaker 2: This is a weird conspiracy theory thing that they discuss.
And you choose your own adventure if you care about
this more than I do. But I'll play this first.
This was Hunter Biden talking about his dad Joe, getting
out of the twenty twenty four presidential race after he
demonstrated to the entire country Finally, I mean, he had
done it so many times before this, but finally no
one could pretend it wasn't happening, that his brain was
fully broken, and that he was the auto pen president
in chief at very best. And Hunter talks about it
like it was some sort of courageous political decision that
the former president made, which shows how insane these people are, like,
how full of themselves, how incapable of analysis that has
any level of I did something wrong. I was in
some way, you know, behaving in doing something I shouldn't like,
No amount of accountability is at all possible for these people.
Case in point is Hunter Biden describing his dad selfless
act to give up power, and I think.
Speaker 1: That actually about it.
Speaker 2: You know, I just hit play on that, and I
hated the way I introduced it because he didn't give
up power. He just didn't run to keep power for
more time. Obviously, after that debate, what should have happened
is Joe Biden should have fully stepped down from the
role of president.
Speaker 1: He of course didn't do that.
Speaker 4: My dad getting out after the debate was probably the
at least singular acts of political courage hilarious by anybody
that's ever held that office.
Speaker 5: I don't know, you can tell me.
Speaker 4: And and actually I know that I'm not wrong of
anybody as president that willingly relinquished power in the way
that my dad did by saying that he would not
seek reelection after.
Speaker 2: Again, that's not relinquishing power. And your dad's brain was
so broken that even your side of the isle was
finally saying he needed to go away when they had
protected him for so long, because it was too beneficial
to your party to have control of the White House
with a blank slate human that you could autopen anything
you wanted.
Speaker 1: You wanted.
Speaker 2: Four more years of that, the Democrats wanted it. Hunter
Biden wanted it. You know, doctor Jill, doctor Biden, as
she's called by this show, well by me and others
often calls it.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's just crazy that they act as though they gave
it up, because the real reason that President Biden stepped
aside is he would not have won reelection, and his
party finally admitted it. If they thought he was still
going to win, they would have kept him in the role.
That's not selfless. That's the exact opposite of that sort
of thing, because it's ridiculous to even say. But here
this is also the part where Don Lemon is trying
to figure out who else in Washington is gay, and
Hunter Biden is saying he can't tell him, he won't
tell him, but then he does a weird thing here. Again,
Whether or not you care about these types of like
salacious discussions, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of let me say it this way.
I don't know if this whole topic is controversial, but
screw it, I'm here, We're gonna do it. There's all
kinds of reasons for people to potentially work together that
we might not know about. You know, I think that's
the idea that there's a gay cabal of individuals and
those people all get together and they control certain things
in our society in ways that are bad. And of course,
if people are doing things that are illegal, I'll just
reiterate again that I want those people caught for whatever
the illegal stuff is. In any capacity, I don't care
what you're doing. But there's a lot of other reasons
that people would work together, and we see it not
just if you're a Democrat or a Republican, but there's
other things that might unite individuals, that might make them
more likely to say, come to a place of common
ground and working on anything. And I think that's basically
the idea here. But again, who knows. Maybe I'm being
crazy controversial in my reaction to this topic. Here is
Hunter Biden trying to hint at people that he's telling
Don Lemon he thinks are gay and working together in
some sort of shady way.
Speaker 5: And no, I'm not gonna like I'm already in enough
lawsuits time allegedly allegedly allegedly who else, allegedly who else
is I'm not going to do this. Can you give
me initials.
Speaker 4: Do you give me you know as well as I do.
I mean, are you asking me if Josh Holly's gay?
Speaker 11: Yes?
Speaker 5: Are you actually me of Stephen Miller's gay?
Speaker 12: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know you okay, let
me tell you that. Are you asking me if Speaker
Johnson's gay?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, I personally I don't know. Yeah. So yeah,
so let me just give.
Speaker 2: Me another minute, and I come up with this is so,
you know, why this is weird to me outside of
the whole fact that I don't really give a crap,
which is, you know, honestly true. Even if that thing,
if that's a conspiracy theory or not, whatever you call it,
if they're thing they're joking about actually is accurate, I
don't care. But the thing that's so funny to me
is the desire to create a discussion that's so far
removed from what actually is important to Americans and to
our society, to our country and in the world of politics,
like the stuff that we want them to do or
not do, like the whole you know, democratic socialism is
actually communism. Thing that's a much more valuable discussion for
prominent people on the left to be having with themselves
about the potential dangers and avenues for bad things in
the future to occur based on that type of ideology
taking over their party, and so instead of that, because
that's such a difficult conversation for them to talk about.
Because the individuals on the left are watching some people
win races based on promising people anything, and people are
dumb enough to vote for someone who promises that they
can give you everything in the world for free.
Speaker 1: All of that's occurrency.
Speaker 2: You can't talk about that because that would be a
substantive discussion that would be difficult for them to retain
popularity on their side. So instead they go candae Owans,
They go the road of let's be crazy insane people
in some sort of crazy insane way and bring up
a controversy that hopefully you talk about more than anything else.
This is the distraction that people have long told me,
like aliens are. And by the way, with the alien one,
I can always pay attention. I've said that before, I'll
say that again. I can pay attention to what's going
on in Cuba, in Iran, in China. I can follow
all that stuff and also listen. If you're going to
give me more proof that aliens exist. I can multitask there.
But there's so many of these things that are distraction
for the stake of distraction that they're just so dumb.
But that one viral that has hundreds of thousands of
views on social media and people are talking about it,
and for some reason, people care about that more than again,
if like Nazis are trying to take over the Democratic Party,
because at least one did have a tattoo for a while.
All right, quick break a lot more at Craig Collins
filling in on the data show.
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Speaker 2: This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of
stuff out there to talk about. The President of the
United States was in Georgia, I think, and he walked
out onto a stage and he said something that I
thought was truly pretty funny to kick off his address
to a bunch of people helping to campaign for others
in the midterm elections. This is the kind of thing
that makes the left go so crazy when they listen
to anything.
Speaker 1: The President Trump says, well, thank you very much, everybody.
Speaker 4: It's a special place, and I am here to announce
my candidacy.
Speaker 2: Yeah you go, sir, God do what you gotta do.
Speaker 5: I'm only kidding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's only kidding.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna do it, although he probably kind of
wants to, which I'm not surprised about. He also crapped
all over John Asoff, which I thought was funny.
Speaker 6: Signette, you're terrible, Senator John Ossof.
Speaker 10: He's terrible.
Speaker 1: It's terrible.
Speaker 4: And the Democrats in Congress are voting with the communists
every single time.
Speaker 5: They're afraid of the communists.
Speaker 10: You look at it now.
Speaker 6: I was, I thought ourself before, as you know, and
we won, had a great success against this guy. He
reminds me of Pinky Herman.
Speaker 10: Do you ever see Pinky Herman?
Speaker 13: John Osof and the congressional Democrats.
Speaker 2: That's so funny, man, Pinky Herman. Yes, absolutely, that's true.
I love it because the President not only seems to
understand that he will go viral, because he made yet
another joke about running for re election in twenty twenty eight.
But then he also craps on people in a way
that's powerful, I think, and valuable to that audience, and
awso off sucks.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing I'd say about.
Speaker 2: That other things out there that I thought were interesting
John Stewart I was talking to, of course, Zorn Mnami.
You'd think there's areas of disagreement between these two individuals,
even though Stuart himself is crapt all over the behavior
of Israel multiple times and said some things that I
definitely don't agree with. I hear he is in a
back and forth with a Zoron talking about you know,
the DSA and abolishing prisons and borders and all kinds
of crazy ideas, and Mamdami had a weird answer here.
Speaker 1: Let's actually hit play on this.
Speaker 14: And if someone says we're going to abolish all prisons
and borders, like I do, go, I only think that's
a good idea, Like it's it feels like order and
security is also a progressive value. Why shouldn't people in
neighborhoods with less resources have the same safety and security
that neighborhoods with lots of resourceers. So are there tenets
of those that are kind of following in the wake
of zoron mom Donnie's success, that you're not comfortable with,
or that give you pause.
Speaker 2: Guess what, by the way, before I actually hit play
on the answer, he's not gonna say the thing that
John Stewart is begging him to say, which is, of course, yes,
there are lines in the sand.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't crawl.
Speaker 10: If you have more than one socialist in a room
and there isn't disagreement, then you don't have more than
one socialist in a room.
Speaker 14: So but you're comfortable with those kinds of discussions.
Speaker 10: Well, I'm comfortable with disagreement, and I'm comfortable with disagreement.
That doesn't end the conversation entirely.
Speaker 2: Well, but it has to, because if there's some things
that you don't want to actually say that your movement
is for that you guys are interested in, like the
you know, abolishing of all prisons everywhere in the country.
Speaker 1: If that's not something you're game for, you got to
throw that out there.
Speaker 2: I feel like a bunch of things just ran through
my head as far as examples of this that all
seem wildly appropriate, and I go to try to pick
the best one. Like, say you're hanging out with this
is the least of the tamest of the ideas. Say
you're hanging out with people and they all suddenly want
to do a bunch of drugs and you're not a
drug person, even just pot. Like, there were times in
college when I'm not a pot guy, and I hung
out with a decent amount of pod guys, mostly because
I played poker. I loved playing Texas Hold Them. It
was a big thing about twenty or so years ago. Wow, man,
it's been that long since I was in college. And
at some point a lot of people also wanted to
get real high, and that just wasn't my thing. And
so at some point with that group of people, you
kind of got to let them know. You gotta be like, yeah,
I'm not gonna do that. I'm probably just gonna bounce
when you guys all get high and watch, you know,
Dave Matthews band for the twentieth time in Central Park.
If that's the thing you guys want to do, cool, Actually,
I'd love it if you did that before poker, because
it might be easier to take some money from all
of you when I'm the only one who's not completely
unaware of what my cards are. But again, like, you
got to throw it out there, man, You have to
have lines otherwise people have no idea what you do.
It actually reminds me of what is it called, like
the Dewey Cock story, the fake walk Hard movie, where
he slowly does more and more drugs because he's peer
pressured into doing them. I'm surprised I just described that
to you and didn't just play that audio on the air.
But I'm pretty sure it's not clean. That's what happens
when you say that you don't want to do something.
What excuse me, when you don't say it, when you
don't voice opposition, you go down the road of Dewey
Cox in the hilarious parody Walk Hard movie, and then
he does all the drugs and then I think a
lot of other bad things happen to him and said movie,
all right, let's move on.
Speaker 1: This is funny. So Cunningham recently.
Speaker 2: Said that dudes shouldn't play female sports, which can't possibly
be controversial, and yet somehow continues to be in the
society in which we live. And it's so confusing to me,
and it seems to now be confusing to Sophie Cunningham,
the Indiana Fever player, who is certainly pretty popular, even
if she's not like an incredibly good basketball player.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to crap on her, but I think
some of.
Speaker 2: The people are saying that it's racism because she's white
that made her more popular than people who are better
at the sport. I think it's also a willingness to
say certain things that probably gives her attention, and then
the ability to point at stuff also seems to be
good for her. But she said that she doesn't think
dude should play women's sports. It's become a thing. She
recently answered a question about it. I think this was
before a Fever game. I'm not really sure, but this
was just the other day ry game.
Speaker 12: Vane, And that's sort of the ESPN you talked about
wanting to protect young girls who shouldn't have to go
against biological men.
Speaker 1: Just can you expand your viewpoint on that.
Speaker 12: I mean, I think I said what I said. I
think it's kind of common sense. It is, and I
think I always believe in that. I think it's really
important to protect children, and that's little girls who are
also involved in that category. And so I stand on
what I said, and I always believe that, Yeah, do
you see your advocacy on that, like taking any form
I'm going forward?
Speaker 11: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 8: I didn't.
Speaker 12: I'm not a very political person, but I do have
the lease. I have morals and I'll all on those
and be treated who Christ.
Speaker 3: Who I am.
Speaker 12: And I think people are going to take it how
they want to take it. But I've never even really
said anything about that. And so when it comes just
to protecting young girls in sport and women in SA
I feel very strongly about that.
Speaker 2: Here, here's why I'm reacting so much as he's saying it,
like it's the most common sense answer you can possibly
have to this discussion. This person who's now been thrust
into this world because people want to accuse her of
being you know, homophobic or transphobic or something because she
doesn't want dudes to play in women's sports, Like that
whole thing just has this life of its own that's crazy.
And it's amazing to listen to her say like I've
never even commented on some of that, Like, to me,
that's beyond the scope of the discussion we are having,
and the discussion we're having is should people who are
biological men compete against women in sports?
Speaker 1: And the answer is pretty.
Speaker 2: Easily no, Like, we don't need to go any first,
We don't need it to bounce into any other areas.
It can just stay here where it lives, and we
can both say we agree that if it's unfair biologically
for someone to compete against somebody else, you can't still
call that women's sports. Like you could create a thing
where anybody can play, where men and women can all
compete against each other, and people who were born dudes
and say they're women can also compete. And I'll ruin
it for you if we did that, if we had
any version of a league where that was in any sport,
the biological men are all going to win. It's not
going to go well. Actually, you know what, this is funny.
This is a different road to go in this discussion
than I've gone before. When I was in high school,
I had a very good female friend who actually dated
like two of my best guy friends, which was weird,
and nothing ever happened between her and I. We just
remained friends, but I remember like she really liked basketball.
Her name was Ashley, is Ashley she's not dead.
Speaker 1: She's still alive.
Speaker 2: And when we were doing like intermural sports in high school,
I remember she asked me one time, She's like, do
you care if I play on the team with you guys?
And I was like, no, this isn't actually the high
school team or anything like, this doesn't matter, And she
seemed to have fun, and we had fun and it
was enjoyable.
Speaker 1: Was she the best player on our team?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 1: Was she aware of that.
Speaker 2: Yes, were there times when it was a group of
just dudes play on our team and she would check
in and they would kind of pick on her and
steal the ball from her more than anybody else. Yeah,
that also happened, and she seemed to, you know, kind
of ignore it and keep going. But it was in
the moment that I kind of realized, not that I
needed to realize the thing about men are better than
women at sports, but I realized that like, this is
an avenue you could take this. You could just let
people play and then see that they're not that good
compared to people who are biologically bigger and faster and
better and just decide did not care, and that, you know,
so like that's a thing if we want to do that.
Speaker 1: It's solely fine.
Speaker 2: I'll let women check in to the NBA and see
how they do there and vice versa. But just letting
one dude claim to be a girl and then bully
women in a sport that just seems wrong. We should
stop allowing that. We should never allow that in our society.
It seems easy to say, and some for some reason,
it seems hard for people to actually comprehend and do all. Right,
One last thing, I do want to play this business.
Mayor Brandon Johnson in an interview I think on ABC
seven in Chicago where he claims that things are going
great in his city.
Speaker 1: They are not.
Speaker 2: Things are not going great. Crime is up, certainly, the
economy is not doing well. But this is the old
version of I'm just going to lie at all times,
whenever asked anything, and kind of hope that everybody with
eyeballs closes them when they walk through the city and
thinks to hey, things are great here. Things are going well,
And none of my life experience matters. Because the mayor
said things are on the up and up.
Speaker 1: When are you going to run for real elections? When
are you gonna announce that?
Speaker 13: Because that's not that's why you wanted to come on,
So make you announcement.
Speaker 1: Are you going to do it?
Speaker 2: When?
Speaker 11: Are you going to do it?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 13: Right now, I'm focused on the good news that's happening
in Chicago. You know again, our economic i was in
our cities is absolutely remarkable. There's no mayor in modern
history that can say that they oversaw the city where
the economy was growing.
Speaker 5: Now budis was going down. I'm very proud of that record.
So now you are running for reflection.
Speaker 13: I'm focused on making sure that economic de building.
Speaker 2: I love so much how mainstream media or in this
case just local television media handles things because they could
have challenged the stuff he just said, they chose not to.
Speaker 1: They're like, ah, that's great.
Speaker 2: So when can you keep ruining the city by trying
to be in charge for longer? All right, quick break
A lot coming up. This is Craig Collins filling in
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Speaker 1: This is the Dana Show.
Speaker 2: My name is Craig Collins, filling in Thrilled to be
with you on a Thursday. A few other quick topics
to talk about. I saw a breaking news story out
of California, I think from this morning that somebody found
like a grenade in somebody's backyard. This was an eagle
rock in which this happened.
Speaker 1: It is crazy.
Speaker 2: You see this occasionally, and there's all kinds of additional explanations,
like I think I even saw within the story they're
saying it appeared to be a military style device that
resembled a grenade, but it might not be one. It's
unclear if it actually is that or something that just
looks like it, but it was removed people evacuated for
a while. But I remember stories where like a grandma
goes into the garage and finds like a real old
grenade somewhere, And I kind of wish I could experience
something like this, you know, like I don't actually want
to be harmed. I don't want it to blow up,
but the excitement and craziness of this being a thing
that you're somehow sort of around would be interesting to me,
to say the very least. Again, I don't want to
be hurt. I don't want to be injured, but I
would like to be someone who eventually uncovers, discovers, and
turns in a grenade somewhere, because I do think they're cool.
But I'm the kind of guy who likes to use
tannerite sometimes when I'm shooting it stuff, and I probably
shouldn't that's probably not a good thing. But nonetheless, like
this story happy ending, nobody injured, they removed it, they
don't know where it came from.
Speaker 1: I feel like that would also be odd.
Speaker 2: The last reaction, I mean, obviously, the last reaction I
have to this story is that if I'm in a
neighborhood where maybe there are some people that don't get
along so great with and then I go into my
backyard one day and find a grenade, I have a
very different feeling about how likely I am to inevitably
have a fight with somebody close to me, Like I'd
be very suspicious from that point. Moving on for a while,
as to like who's grenade it was? If somebody threw
it in my backyard on purpose, it's very different than say,
kids playing baseball in the backyard next door and hitting
a plastic ball into your yard. A grenade's a problem,
and you're probably gonna have some discussions about it at
some point. So good and bad, I guess what I'm saying.
I'd like to and also very much not like to
discover a grenade that does not explode.
Speaker 1: I'm a weird. That's an odd way to react to this.
Speaker 2: I almost just called myself a weird person on the
Dana Show, and I can't help it. Like I do,
I get from afar excited that somebody had a day
where they get to tell a story like that that
they found a grenade. Actually, I think a lot of
my desire to be in crazy news stories that I
read is just so I have a story to tell
people at the bar later. I have said, I think
on this show or maybe other places, and you might
not care, but we're almost out of time. I can
tell you this now that I'd like to get in
a fight with a wild animal as long as I
know I'm gonna win, which is the rub there, Like
you're not guaranteed to win, but if you were guaranteed
at least a survival, like you get in a fight
and you walk away from it, that's a cool story
to tell for the rest of your life. I feel
like discovering a grenade is one of those two, but
I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, all right. One last
topic that is adult in nature. Whenever I do adult
topics and on radio, especially when I'm filling in for
other people, I try to do it right before we
run out of time. So luckily, we don't talk about
this for very long. I found a story that I
was confused. Somebody even did a report on and the
person who wrote this is a lifestyle reporter. The person's
name is Charlie Sawyer. I think it's a girl named Charlie.
But she wrote about how the adult you know what
industry has started to obsess a lot about a specific
body part that they hadn't featured previously, and normally this
probably isn't a story at all to talk about on
the radio, Like normally we avoid this entirely.
Speaker 1: But the body part is the butt crack.
Speaker 2: The thing that you see if somebody bends over to
like fix some plumbing in your house. Not the thing
that's so inappropriate it can't wind up on TV because
it's not, you know, it's not the whole naked body part.
That is the oddest thing I've ever read. And actually
the way it's described in the piece of the person
who wrote about this that more sites are featuring this
as a component of their content is they called it
the humble butt crack. I'm wildly confused about the world
we live in sometimes and the stuff that is viral
and that happens in the world of the Internet. But
I did have a thought, and I feel like this
thought is appropriate enough that I can share it on
the radio and not get us in any kind of trouble.
Maybe the disparity, the depravity, the craziness that is the
Internet and the length of time that the Internet has
existed in so many people's lives, and they've probably seen
a lot of things on the Internet that you should
or shouldn't be looking at. That maybe going back to
something that is not actually, you know, inappropriate for regular television,
maybe there's some sort of interest in that. Again, maybe
that's the exact opposite of what the Internet typically is,
sot of all the things for them to say that
suddenly is gaining popularity in the adult world of online stuff.
Speaker 1: I actually was kind of amused by this one. I
was like, well, that's not as bad as I thought
it was.
Speaker 11: Going to be.
Speaker 2: This story can go one hundred, one hundred worse roads,
and I'll tell you what all those are. But ah,
we're out of time. I can't do it. I can't
get fired today. Talking next time. Craig Collins filling in
on the Danish show.
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Speaker 12: And now all of the news you would probably miss,
it's time for Dana's Quick five.
Speaker 1: That's right, It's time for Quick five on the Dana Show.
Speaker 2: Dlash, Dana Lash Radio, and x A Great ways to
stay connected to her. Google and task Line, Alphabet and
Tesla stocks have plunged because of quote runaway AI spending.
A whole lot of investors are terrified that we're putting
way too much money into the world of AI, and
for now they're probably right about that, although I imagine
that in the future they'll feel very wrong about that.
So some of these stocks nos diving for now feels temporary,
not permanent, because AI is here, man and everybody's obsessed
with it.
Speaker 1: We talk about data.
Speaker 2: Centers in so many parts of the country right now,
and people who don't want them in their own community,
but the inevitability that they're probably going to wind up
all over the place. And it's because everybody uses AI
for everything right now. We ask AI all kinds of
questions we probably don't need to ask the Internet. But yes,
some of these stocks seem to be doing poorly. Because
the companies are investing harder and harder in something that
again I think they're they're detecting better than the rest
of us, how heavily it's being used.
Speaker 10: All right.
Speaker 2: Another thing out there that I thought was interesting, annoying
sleeping habits are causing people to break up or get divorce,
or at least have bedroom breakups where you both sleep
in a different spot. I thought this was interesting because
it's more than just like snoring. It's somebody who's like
a bedhog who flings an elbow out occasionally.
Speaker 1: All of this.
Speaker 2: I found this amusing because I don't know how my
wife deals with me. I'm pretty sure I do. All
of the things that are listed here is terrible things.
Years ago, my wife started using earplugs to fall asleep
at night, and I think she was even nice about it.
She's like, it's a lot of the noise, not just you.
We live in a city. And I'm like, yeah, that's cool.
I think it was mostly just me that was a thing,
Stealing the covers, tossing and turning, all of these habits
that apparently annoyed people so much.
Speaker 1: Maybe the bedroom breakup is right. I don't like doing it.
Speaker 2: We haven't done it, so I'm happy about that, but
maybe at some point it's just fine. Maybe more of
us will do that instead of just end a relationship.
Sixty four percent of people in a relationship said that
they are willing to accept some, but not all, of
their partner's disruptive sleeping.
Speaker 1: Habits, which is good.
Speaker 2: I don't know where that line is, and luckily my
wife has not found it yet, because again I'm pretty
sure I'm a all things considered, terrible sleeper to share
bed with. Another story that I saw, Ford is recalling
about four hundred thousand vehicles over an injury hazard in
the second row seats.
Speaker 1: You see these recalls all.
Speaker 2: The time, not for this specific reason, but all kinds
of things, and of course I think the immediate reactions.
I hope I don't have one of those cars, but
by and large, anytime that this happens, they can always
fix it. But I saw this was in the news
and that you got to bring your car to a
Ford dealership and they're going to do some things to
change it. And I guess the only real reason I
reacted or even included this story is because it reminds
me of how long I drove my jeep that didn't
have a recall, but did seem to be basically falling apart.
So sometimes for some of us, recall is no longer
the problem. It's that the jeep doesn't seem to want
to be alive because it's the ninety six and you
won't give it up.
Speaker 1: All right, quick break.
Speaker 2: A lot more coming up in a little bit of time,
including a reaction to some Odyssey reactions. Next on The
Dana Show, Craig Collin filling in. This is the Dana Show.
My name is Craig Collins, filling in. Thrilled to be
with you on a Thursday. A few other quick topics
to talk about. I saw a breaking news story out
of California, I think from this morning, that somebody found
like a grenade in somebody's backyard. This was an eagle
rock in which this happened.
Speaker 1: This is crazy.
Speaker 2: You see this occasionally, and there's all kinds of additional explanations,
like I think I even saw within the story they're
saying it appeared to be a military style device that
resembled a grenade, but it might not be one. It's
unclear if it actually is that or something that just
looks like it, but it was removed.
Speaker 1: People evacuated for a while.
Speaker 2: But I remember stories where like a grandma goes into
the garage and finds like a real old grenade somewhere,
And I kind of wish I could experience something like this,
you know, like, I don't actually want to be harmed.
I don't want it to blow up, but the excitement
and craziness of this being a thing that you're somehow
sort of around would be interesting to me, to say
the very late. Again, I don't want to be hurt,
I don't want to be injured, but I would like
to be someone who eventually uncovers, discovers, and turns in
a grenade somewhere, because I do think they're cool. But
I'm the kind of guy who likes to use tannerite
sometimes when I'm shooting and stuff, and I probably shouldn't.
Speaker 1: That's probably not a good thing.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, like this story, happy ending, nobody injured, they
removed it, they don't know where it came from.
Speaker 1: I feel like that would also be odd.
Speaker 2: The last reaction, I mean, obviously, the last reaction I
have to this story is that if I'm in a
neighborhood where maybe there are some people that don't get
along so great with And then I go into my
backyard one day and find a grenade, I have a
very different feeling about how likely I am to inevitably
have a fight with somebody close to me, Like I'd
be very suspicious from that point.
Speaker 1: Moving on for a while as to like who's grenade
it was?
Speaker 2: If somebody threw it in my backyard on purpose, It's
very different than say, kids playing baseball in the backyard
next door and hitting a plastic ball into your yard.
A grenade's a problem, and you're probably going to have
some discussions about it at some point. So good and bad,
I guess what I'm saying. I'd like to and also
very much not like to discover a grenade that does
not explode.
Speaker 1: I'm a weird That's an odd way to react to this.
Speaker 2: I almost just called myself a weird person on the
Dana Show, and I can't help it, Like I do,
I get from afar excited that somebody had a day
where they get to tell a story like that that
they found a grenade. Actually, I think a lot of
my desire to be in crazy news stories that I
read is just so I have a story to tell
people at.
Speaker 1: The bar later.
Speaker 2: I have said, I think on this show or maybe
other places, and you might not care. But we're almost
out of time. I can tell you this now, that
I'd like to get in a fight with a wild
animal as long as I know I'm going to win,
which is the rub there, Like, you're not guaranteed to win,
but if you were guaranteed at least a survival, Like
you get in a fight and you walk away from it,
that's a cool story to tell for the rest of
your life. I feel like discovering a grenade is one
of those too, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong. All right, one last topic that is
adult in nature.
Speaker 2: Whenever I do adult topics and on radio, especially when
I'm filling in for other people, I try to do
it right before we run out of time. So luckily
we don't talk about this for very long. I found
a story that I was confused. Somebody even did a
report on and the person who wrote this is a
lifestyle reporter. The person's name is Charlie Sawyer. I think
it's a girl named Charlie. But you wrote about how
the adult you know what industry has started to obsess
a lot about a specific body part that they hadn't
featured previously, and normally this probably isn't a story at
all to talk about on the radio, Like normally we
avoid this entirely.
Speaker 1: But the body part is the butt crack.
Speaker 2: The thing that you see if somebody bends over to
like fix some plumbing in your house. Not the thing
that's so inappropriate it can't wind up on TV because
it's you know, it's not the whole naked body part.
That is the oddest thing I've ever read. And actually
the way it's described in the piece of the person
who wrote about this that more sites are featuring this
as a component of.
Speaker 1: Their content is they called it the humble butt crack.
Speaker 2: I'm wildly confused about the world we live in sometimes
and the stuff that is viral and that happens in
the world of the Internet. But I did have a thought,
and I feel like this thought is appropriate enough that
I can share it on the radio and not get
us in any kind of trouble. Maybe the disparity, the depravity,
the craziness that is the Internet and the length of
time that the Internet has existed in so many people's lives,
and they've probably seen a lot of things on the
Internet that you should or shouldn't be looking at. That
maybe going back to something that is not actually inappropriate
for regular television, maybe there's some sort of interest in that. Again,
maybe that's the exact opposite of what the Internet typically is,
sot of all the things for them to say that
suddenly is gaining popularity in the adult world of online stuff.
I actually was kind of amused by this one. I
was like, well, that's not as bad as I thought
it was going to be. This story can go one hundred,
a hundred worse roads, and I'll tell you what all
those are. But ah, we're out of time. I can't
do it. I can't get fired today. Talk to you
next time. Greig Collins filling in on the Danish show