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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to another episode of the Chicks on

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the Right podcast where we talk to our good friend

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and sponsor of the show, Zach Abraham from Bulwert Capital Management.

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And today, Zach, there's so much going on with Doge

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and with like this continuing resolution drama, the government shutting down,

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all the drama that's been happening, and so part of

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what's going on with Doge and part of what's going

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on with Trump is that there's a lot of focus

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right now on federal employees working from home, and apparently

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the Social Security Administration came to some agreement with their

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union or whatever saying, oh, yeah, all of our work

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at home employees can stay working at home until twenty

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twenty nine. And Trump is like, no, no, And of

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course Elon has not been a proponent of work from

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home situations for his own businesses, and so I'm sure

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that with Doge, he's going to be weighing in on that.

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What are your thoughts about President Trump getting in the

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mix of this? Do you think working at home for

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federal employees should be allowed?

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Speaker 2: And do you do it for your business? And like

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how do you handle it? Curious?

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Speaker 3: So I'm probably the wrong guy to ask about this

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because we didn't have a single work from home day

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during COVID, right.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we work every day.

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Speaker 2: We did too, Yeah, we did too. We went to work.

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Speaker 3: Uh And and I guess I'm safe to say it now,

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you know, but like just because it's all blown over now,

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But I remember I had I had a discussion with

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the team like the first day of the shutdowns, and

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I looked at him and I was like, look, I

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can't buy law tell any of you to be here,

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but I will be taking notes right like this, and yeah, yeah,

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And the and the thing is is, first of all,

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you know, I was telling them that at that time,

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because we went into that period of time really concerned

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and so we had a lot of defense in our

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investments and so we didn't get it. And I knew

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that because of that, we've probably have a big inflow

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of new clients. And I said to our people, I go,

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this is our superman. You need to be here. Right,

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goes back to that competitive.

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Speaker 2: Conversation we're having, right right, So no, I think.

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Speaker 3: At some point and this is the thing that again

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to me, is an a political conversation that we should

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all be able to unite around. This is about the

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efficacy of our money, right, This is about the efficiency

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and the respect for our money. Right, and if they

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were a for profit organization, and the respect and duty

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they have to their shareholders, which in my opinion, the

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fiduciary responsibility of our elected officials far supersedes that of

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fiduciary responsibility to shareholders. Right. You wouldn't see a publicly

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traded company still doing this. They're all reversing policy on this,

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but the US government isn't going to. If you want

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a club medic sphereans, go get a different job, right right.

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And and look, I would even be willing if structured correctly,

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especially in something like the education system. I would be

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all about stripping out some of the bureaucratic administrative stuff

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and give these people increases and salaries. But with that

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comes increased responsibility game working fromorrow. Right, This isn't club

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med so I love it. And all these bills that

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you see passing right now, I just feel like they're

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legislative sand in the gears that I feel like a

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The other one that I think is really funny is

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the way it's worded, how it just exonerates all of

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these people right, like, they can't. They can't. I was

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going through yesterday, Right, they can't get prosecuted, and and

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you sit there and the irony of all of that.

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They're they're all paranoid about Trump. He's going to come

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after us. He's going to come after us, right, and

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you go, why where would you get that idea?

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Speaker 2: Right? You should be right?

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Speaker 3: And it reminds me of the old ad is right

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if you're on a street and somebody tells you, hey,

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there's a there's a there's a burglar, there's a cat

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burglar on this street, but we're not going to tell

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you who it is. How do you find out? Right, Well,

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look for the guy with the best security system, right, yeah,

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Why that's the lens he sees the world through. Right.

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It was just funny reading that legislation because I'm sitting

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there going, this is an admission to every single thing

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that we would accuse them of. And that's why you

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know they're they That's what they did. So they're gonna

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they're gonna try to cover their own backside.

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Speaker 2: I'm covering their own backsize and then wanting a raise,

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all right.

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Speaker 3: Well, and then I heard a couple of articles I

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saw these articles going you know, you know, congressional salaries

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and were going down versus inflation, and and if we

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want less bribes, then we need to up their salary.

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And I, oh my god, who I go. Hey, I'm

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all about increasing their salary more than seventy grand a year,

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but not unless it comes with the needed legislation to

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end increased punishments for bribes, right, like do a restructuring.

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Otherwise this is just a handout to congressional members, right.

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Speaker 2: Actually, how much do they make? They make, like because

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they und seventy five six thousand a year. Yeah, I

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feel yeah, there are a lot of people, especially who

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they expect to pay them a raise, like a forty

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percent raise. There are a lot of people out there

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that don't make that much.

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Speaker 1: Private sector raises are three percent to five percent if

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you're lucky.

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Speaker 3: Right, their raised still, their raise, I believe is higher

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or commensurate to the average living wage in this country.

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Speaker 2: Goes raise the race, just the raise.

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Speaker 3: I might even go for it if we sit there

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and say, okay, the one caveat that comes with this

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raise is you nor you no longer nor anybody connected

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to you can trade based off information you're here on

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Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Martha Stewart would agree with you you yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, and and and why would we with all

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of the things wrong that both sides, that all of

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the constituency understands is wrong with Congress, why would any

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of us sign off on this? Right?

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Speaker 2: Well, because people are people like to punish themselves, especially

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people on the left. They think because it's same, all same, Well,

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they don't like because it's very disruptive, right, this is

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very just we wanted it forever I've been We've been

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talking about this for fifteen years. We've been talking about this,

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but it's finally like we're thinking, oh my gosh, this

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could maybe happen. They don't if they get the balls

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to actually do it, because that's part of the problem

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this week at least. But I mean, if it happens,

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a lot of people are very uncomfortable with change. They

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just they're they're comfortable with the abuse that we've been

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taking because a lot of this, let's face it is theft.

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That's the way I look at it.

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Speaker 3: It is. But that's why it's so important that these

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guys got to follow through, because this is not one

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of those classic situations. Truthfully, I believe if they follow

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through and what they say they're going to do, they'll

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win the next election sixty forty, right, because people are

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so tired of it. Right, there is such easy fat

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to cut out of the system.

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Speaker 1: So do you think that they can really reach that

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two trillion dollar cut goal?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that they can do that?

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Speaker 3: Well? So, possibly, as it relates to something like the

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CBOE right, or excuse me, the CBO, the Congressional Budgeting

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Office the CBO, Like if you extrapolated over time, perhaps yes,

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But they can they trim the Can they trim the

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expected budget over the next ten years by two trillion? No? No,

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not without serious economic pain. But remember you've got to

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look at these things on you know, twenty five to

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fifty year time horizons. The other thing that they can do,

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and the thing that's really hard to handicap, is if

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done correctly, the decreases in regulations will lead to increased

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productivity for you, increase profit and increased tax receipts. That's

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that's really to me going to have a bigger impact

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than the than the tax cuts. Yeah, right, uh, or

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excuse me, than the than the spending cuts in terms

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of balancing the budget long term and putting us in

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a in a realistic place because when you look at

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the math and you just look at the button, you

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look at what we spent per year versus the economy. Hey,

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you you you have to pull both of those numbers

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together to ever think you're going to approach stable, right,

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Like the spreads too large, right, Yeah, you got to

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do it on both ends.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: I love hearing all the belly ache and from like

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you know, the deep state, the establishment, especially with these

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work from home guidelines. They're like, well, but if we

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insist that these employees come back to work, then a

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whole bunch of people are going to quit. And you know,

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Vavak and Elon are like, yeah, that's what I want.

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Speaker 3: What do you want? By right by? And this is

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like this to me, if they quit, they don't need

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the job exactly, So so we're supposed to like we're

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sad that they retired the job. Great, enjoy the rest

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of your life, right. And this is this is the

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thing that angers me so much, is that at some point,

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being in government, or being employed by government, or being

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a politician, they act as if it entitles them to

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a better life yeah, right, and you look at them

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and go. It entitles you to service.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, It's supposed to do right And.

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Speaker 3: Our job is not to line your pockets. If you

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want to maximize your income capability, start a business, right Like,

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it's called public service. Now, Like, could I be like

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I said, could I be in favor? And I can't

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even believe I'm saying this, but could I be in

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favor potentially to pay congressional members five hundred grand a year? Sure?

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If if packaged correctly, Because there is one thing to say, like,

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if we want to if we want to eliminate corruption

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from the system, and we want to get our best

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and brightest right into the system, I do think it

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is appropriate to say that part of that solution probably

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would need to include substantially higher salaries. Right, well, really

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that would happen, yeah, because look, I mean, look, I'm

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not calling myself one of the best and brightest, all right,

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I'm just saying, as a forty three year old business owner,

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there's no way in hell I could take I could

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afford to take that job. I just can do it.

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Speaker 2: But I would say, but the thing is, the caveat

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would be if we paid them that much money. There

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would have to be no insider trading. There'd have to

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be no speaking engagements, no book deals, none of that crap. Like,

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they would really be truly serving and they wouldn't be

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in service to lobbyists. They'd be in service to us,

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and we'd have to have check some balances to make

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sure that that was actually happening.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And another one that would have to be included

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in that package is a ten year freeze out, a

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ten year moratorium on you taking an employment with anybody

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in an industry that you did legislation on, or that

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you lobbied on, or that anything whatsoever to do totally

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if you just sat on a committee, Yeah, penyres, you

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are blackballed from taking employment that at that industry.

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Speaker 2: I could get on board with that, Zach, because I

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think it would weed out a lot of the scumbags really,

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and then you would get better people in there, because

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they'd be like, all right, I'm doing this because I

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am wanting to serve, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, because yeah, But then you'd also be getting total

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riff raff because you're what you're doing is you're always

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relying on just the general public to get people elected

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and people in America elect morons. We've seen this time

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and time again.

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Speaker 3: It is, but we are we're believers in free markets, right,

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so totally if we up compensation, if we're CEO. Let's

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say you and I start a company, right, the Chicks

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Podcast Company, and you guys bring me in as a consultant, right,

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and we want to hire a CEO. Do you think

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we're going to get better applicants at two hundred and

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fifty or five hundre grand a year?

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Speaker 2: Well? Probably maybe, obviously five hundred, but for this job.

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I mean, I don't really consider these Yahoo's CEOs. And

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maybe it's because I'm just so jaded. Maybe that's why

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it is. I need to be less jaded about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I no, no, I agree with you. I don't

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think they are CEOs. All I'm saying is I don't

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like the idea of paying these guys more, but to

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like to preserve the sancty like for instance, one of

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the reasons we don't have a corruption problem in this

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country is because of the compensation that our police officers receive. Right,

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it doesn't make sense for them to take one hundred

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dollars bill on the side of the highway and compromise

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their pension and they're ninety to one hundred and twenty

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thousand dollars a year income. Right, Right, So like you

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flip down in Mexico, you got the exact opposite problem, right, So,

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meaning there is a part of that, but it would

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need to like like we said, it would need to

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come with so many of these caveats and the current system,

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if you really sit back and think about it, right now,

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the current system attracts only two types of people, right,

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people that truly want to serve and are passionate about

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making a difference or grifters.

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Speaker 2: Right, and the people who and the people who really

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want to serve a lot of them get in there

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and they become grifters.

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Speaker 3: Well true, yeah, because and it's it's the slippery slope, right,

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because you know what, I don't really believe in this bill,

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but if I don't vote for it, I won't exactly

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elect it again, and then I won't be able to

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keep making a difference. Right.

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Speaker 2: They're always running, They're always running for freaking election always,

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right Johnson. Yeah, and you know who.

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Speaker 3: Staff talks them into it too? Right? No, no, no, hold on,

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I know this goes against your morals, but don't vote

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for this. You're not going to get re elected, and

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then what good can you do? And then most of

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these people are narcissists. So when you tell them, when

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you frame it like the whole world is relying on you,

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right of course, oh yeah, they what would America do

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unless I was there holding up the pillar? Right?

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Speaker 1: So well, in fact, we always love talking to you

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about what's going on in the economy, and we always

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tell our folks that listen to our daily show that

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they should be getting in touch with you to help

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sort through or at least give it once over of

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their retirement portfolios, because it doesn't hurt to get a

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second opinion, even if they already have a financial advisor.

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So remind people how they can find you and how

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they can schedule a free risk review.

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Speaker 3: Yes, pretty easy to find. Just google Know your Risk

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Radio dot com or go to Borcapitalmanagement dot com. Got

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a lot of great things going on, like economically coming up,

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I think with the president, But when we look at markets,

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they're incredibly off sides and really scurry right now. So

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we see a lot of risk but also a lot

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of opportunity. It's just not where everybody's looking so yeah,

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we'd love to if nothing else, just give you a

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second opinion and hopefully leave you more more educated.

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Speaker 1: Love all right, know your Risk Radio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, sach Thank all right, Thank you

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very much.

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