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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcasts. Ladies and gentlemen, have we got a

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show for you today. We will be talking about two murders,

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a rape, glass coffins, and stolen shoes. And that's all

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in the first two songs.

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Speaker 2: You think he's kidding, he is not kidding. It's incredible

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the stories involved in this album. Yes, it really is.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's something special that we get to

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do when we go into an album that is by

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quote unquote various artists, because we were exploring all kinds

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of stories. But this is this is one for the ages.

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I'm excited to get into it. Here we go with

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the Shirley You Can't Be Serious Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: We hope that you'll join us and have the time

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of your life. Just be our baby, be our little bit. Okay.

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D Before we get into a track by track, some

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people might feel like the Dirty Dancing soundtrack, Why are

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you covering the Dirty Dancing soundtrack? That's not really kind

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of in our sweet spot. But listen, this is a

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top five selling album of the nineteen eighties. It is

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one of the best selling albums of all time. It

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was released in the eighties. It has multiple hits from

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the eighties, including the best song of the year. I

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mean it's it's definitely our wheelhouse. It's just that you

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might not realize it's our wheelhouse. That's true.

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Speaker 1: So you pick up the Dirty Dancing soundtrack and you're

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going to think, well, okay, this is going to be

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all songs from the late fifties early sixties, because that's

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the time period of the movie. But in fact, especially

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when you got the first part of the album, it's

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mostly brand new songs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is. Here's the thing that blew me away? Okay,

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So I knew this was a big thing. I heard

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it on the radio every time I turned it on.

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I mean, Dirty Dancing was a force in eighty seven

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and eighty eight. Yeah, undeniable. Yeah right, but this is

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the thing that blew me away. Okay. Here's the top

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five selling albums of the decade. Yes, number one thriller

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No Surprise There, Yeah right, which we have done track

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by track, Yes episode one. Yes number two is Back in.

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Speaker 1: Black, which we've done track by track.

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Speaker 2: Yes, No Surprise There, No surprise, go back to that episode. Great.

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Episode number three was bad by Michael Jackson, which we

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covered track by track. Yeah, number four is Dirty Dancing.

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Here we are, we're checking this one off the box, clicking.

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Speaker 1: This box today. We've got several others on this list,

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and number five was Appetite for Destruction Gang. We matched

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up one versus three, two versus five. And the funny

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thing is that the Dirty Dancing Soundtrack is the number

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four selling album of the nineteen eighties. Saturday Night Fever

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is the number four selling album of the nineteen seventies.

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See that's important. If you are just tuning into us

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for the first time. Welcome aboard Shirley fan anew. We

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have in the last two episodes covered Dirty Dancing the

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movie versus Saturday Night Fever the movie, and now we

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are covering Dirty Dancing the soundtrack versus Saturday Night Fever

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the soundtrack.

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Speaker 2: And at the end, I think we'll probably rank them

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all one to three, four. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: When we said which of these albums that we're going

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to cover first, I said to you, well, let's do

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Dirty Dancing first because it's got the older songs, and

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then we move into the seventies. And that kind of

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makes sense that way. But as it turns out, It's

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kind of a back and forth, worth ping pong thing

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because you've got songs from the fifties and sixties, and

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you've got songs from the eighties, and then when we

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cover Saturday Night Fever, we're gonna have songs from the seventies.

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So we're covering four decades of music all in two

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podcasts episodes.

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Speaker 2: Literally, when we do this matchup, this will be the

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first time we venture into the fifties, the first time

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we venture into the sixties. Next week we're going to

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venture into the seventies for the first time. Yeah, So anyway,

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it's gonna be fun. This album was so successful that

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they literally created a sequel album that was released in

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March of nineteen eighty eight with a very.

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Speaker 1: Creative title More Dirty Dancing This is Okay. The original

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Dirty Dancing soundtrack was number one for eighteen weeks. On

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May seventh, nineteen eighty eight, Dirty Dancing Soundtrack was number one.

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More Dirty Dancing was number three. It's crazy, best selling album.

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Speaker 2: That is crazy. People were nuts for this music, and

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it doesn't make any sense. We're talking about nineteen eighty seven.

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listening to in nineteen eighty seven, it dislodged Bruce Springstein

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from the number one spot. YEP, George Michael knocked it

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out a couple of times. But we're talking about Appti

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for destruction. We're talking about hysteria, We're talking about kick.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about girls, Girls, Girls. We're talking about White Snake,

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White Snake. Big albums, big albums that are hard rock albums.

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And what we have is a soundtrack from a low

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budget movie starring two people who were largely unknown at

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the time, topping the charts and becoming one of the

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best selling albums in.

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Speaker 2: History, thirty two million albums sold. Do you know that

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this is the all time greatest selling album in Germany

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all time? This is the thriller of Germany.

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Speaker 1: So the popularity of this album actually caught the producers

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by surprise. The album had one million copies on back

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order before a single had even been released. What Yeah

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eighteen weeks at number one on the Billboard two hundred

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album Sales charts and went platinum eleven times.

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Speaker 2: One Thing I Want You to Put a p in? Okay.

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The album was released July eighteenth, nineteen eighty seven. Yeah.

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put a pin in that because one of the singles

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was dangling out there for a month, unhelped by the movie. Wow, okay, Yeah,

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put a pin in that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting when you think about Mike Footloose in

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comparison to that, where they released the soundtrack before the

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soundtrack was already a huge success by the time the

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movie had come out. This is an entirely different scenario.

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So we talked earlier about how important the soundtrack was

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in all of the movie. We talked about how Eleanor Bergstein,

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the writer of the movie, went to her old forty five's,

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her old finyls and made herself a mixtape. And this

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was the way that she pitched the movie to people.

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the producer a copy of the mixtape, and say here's

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my idea for the movie. And she was rejected and

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rejected and rejected. But then years would go by and

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the producers would call her back up and say, hey,

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I've worn out that Ebe's dirty dancing tape you gave me.

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Could you give me another copy.

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Speaker 2: You realize you said no no on the movie. Loved

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Speaker 1: So this soundtrack, this tape that she had, she used

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it as her guiding light as she wrote the script.

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Speaker 2: Are we ready? Yeah, let's jump in. All right, let's

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dive in.

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Speaker 1: Before we get going on the music, let me just

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say this. We talked in our last episode about how

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it was so difficult to get the rights to this music,

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and I brought up the fact that they got rid

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of one guy and brought in another guy. The guy

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they brought in was a guy named Jimmy Iiner. That

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I just want to say Einer and his brother Don

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Heiner founded the publishing house cam Usa in the seventies.

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He wanted to become the president of Columbia Records and

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the president of Sony Music. So not too shabby, right,

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really he was a record producer. He had been in

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a band, of course on his own, but he was

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kind of a guy who was able to do both things.

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a very proficient producer. And he's been responsible for some

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of the remixing of some of these songs. But he's

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the guy that I said last episode he went and

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kissed Phil Spector's big toe. Yes, yes, in order to

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get the rights to some of these songs. And had

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he not done that, we would not have the movie

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that we had, and we would not have this soundtrack.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be amazing. Yeah, it's fascinating stuff. Okay, we ready, yeah,

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all right. Diving into our first song on the album, ye,

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be my Baby. I feel like we're forgetting something. No,

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never mind, let's just keep on going. Be my Baby,

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Be my Baby. Let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here this first drum beat, it's unmistakable, it's huge.

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Speaker 2: It was an accident. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So the guy who did the drum beat on this

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one is Hal Blaine and he was a member of

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the Wrecking Crew. The Wrecking Crew was Phil Spector's studio

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band that became Brian Wilson's studio band for Pet Sounds,

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which is regarded as one of the best albums of

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all time. They were the most proficient musicians. It included

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Glenn Campbell, which we talked about back in our Toto episode,

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and Hal Blaine was the drummer and he said that

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famous drum intro was an accident. I was supposed to

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play the snare on the second beat as well as

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the fourth, but I dropped the stick. Being a faker,

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I left the mistake in and it became ba ba boom,

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and so everyone wanted that beat.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing story. Drop my stick and faked it. I

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asked our buddy James Buckley. I'm like, hey, you're the drummer.

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I'm not the drummer. Does this have a name? He goes, no,

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but it's like the most famous phrase in drum history.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no real name for it. It's just the

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accident that happened and everybody loved right.

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Speaker 2: So that phrase has been used by Billy Joel, by

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is it too right? And he's like, yep, yep, that's it.

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we mentioned Phil Spector earlier, and man, is there a

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host of stories here.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we could spend a week here. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So the Ronettes started with for Ronica Bennett, who became

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Ronnie Spector. Yes, three females who were black and sang

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harmony together were the end thing at this time, right,

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And so here was their plan. She had her, her

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sister and their cousin all dress in the same dress,

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wear their hair the same and go stand in a

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line outside of a famous club. And as they're standing

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in line, sure enough, their plan works and some guy

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in here. And they got in by mistake. Somebody thought

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they were the band. They were not the band.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: They got out there. They had practiced singing before and

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they did a whole lot of fun dancing for everybody

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in the crowd. And it was that that led to

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them becoming the Rownets.

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Speaker 2: That is an incredible story. Yeah, those of you who

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Dirty Dancing. It's that sort of cepia toned slow motion

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introduction of the Dirty Dancing to this song.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the preview so that you're not so shocked when

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Speaker 2: It later on.

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Speaker 1: In the movie of the Dirty Beat, there was a

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clear distinction. There was clean teene, which is what Baby

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listened to before the night in the basement, and then

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the dirty dancing, which was her rhythm.

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Speaker 2: We talked about how that scene had to be her

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going into oz. They didn't have enough money to film

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an opening scene for dirty Dancing, so they had to

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the intro to dirty Dancing, like we talked about. But

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emil Ardlino, Eleanor Bergstein and Linda Gottlieb watched that scene

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and we're trying to figure out the perfect song to

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play over that scene. They played four hundred songs. Oh

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my gosh. When they finally hit be My Baby, all

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three in Unison were like, this is it.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't until we started studying this that I realized

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kind of sixty songs that I knew. I didn't realize

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what kind of Megaton Bomb.

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Speaker 2: This thing was right. The song was so perfect that

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they had to go battle for it. Linda Gottlief said

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they paid seventy five thousand dollars for the use of

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that song. Yeah, it was played for thirty seconds. And

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when you think, oh, seventy five thousands not that much,

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well it is when your budget's four point five million dollars, Yeah,

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for the entire movie, right, for a thirty seconds worth

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of song, Right, and you've also got eleven other songs

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that you're trying to get exactly, And actually it was

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more like twenty other songs that you're trying to get,

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that's right. I talked to my dad about this song,

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and I played two songs for him. Be My Baby

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was released August of nineteen sixty three, and it reached

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number two on the charts. And I'm like, what song

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is better than Be My Baby? Right? Yeah? You know

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you know I like you this right? I love it.

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I love it? What is it? So? I played for

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him the song sugar Shack by Jimmy Gilmer and the Fireballs. Yeah,

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and to me, it's kind of a it's kind of

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a goofy song. Anyway, I played it for him I'm like,

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which are these two songs? Is the bigger song? And

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he's like, be my baby? And now he knew both. Right.

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It's just interesting though, for whatever reason that at that

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moment in time, sugar Shack was the hot song.

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Speaker 1: It's the difference between hot now and hot forever?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: You ready to talk about Ronnie Spector and Phil Spector,

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Phil Spector and the madness that ensued. Yes, okay, So

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Ronnie Spector is part of the ron Ets. Was heard

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by Phil Spector and he thought, this is this is

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the band I want to hang my hat on. And

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this really, this song is where he truly built his

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wall of sound style of producing. He and the Wrecking

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crew spent hours and hours and hours playing the song

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before they ever hit the record button. So he was

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an absolute perfectionist. As we know, he was also completely mental.

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Speaker 2: Right, convicted murderer Phil Spector, Right, he wasn't convicted at

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this time as well before all of that.

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Speaker 1: But but yes, that's a story that we definitely need

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to talk about. So he's got this music and he's

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also he's the one who wrote this song. I mean

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him and a couple of other guys. But you think

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about the words of this song, it's kind of almost

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foreshadowing as to what his life's going to be like

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with Ronnie. Of this, I'm going to infantilize you as

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well as completely dedicate my life to you. And so anyway,

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he's he's got this music. He finally a forty fifth take,

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they finally record the one that they're going to use,

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and then they bring Ronnie in to record the vocals,

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and she spent three days practicing the vocals, all of

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which she spent in the bathroom of the gold Star

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Recording studio. She's like, they're supposed to have this amazing

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sound in gold Star Wars studios. Well, I can tell

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you the bathroom sounds even better because of the echo.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: It was because of that echo that I had all

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my oo oohs and uh wah wahs and all of

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those things that came from me practicing in there.

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Speaker 2: She said.

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Speaker 1: When I went in there and laid down the vocal track,

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everybody in the band was like telling me how wonderful

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I was and I was going to be the next

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Billy Holiday. Wow, fantastic. So obviously this gets them noticed

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and on the charts. They go out to London and

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start touring. You know who Their opening band was, The

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Rolling Stones.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: The Rolling Stones were opening for the Ronet.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: While they were out there, they met the Beatles. This

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was before Beatlemania, This was before nineteen sixty f and

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everybody went crazy. And she'll say, Beatlemania is what killed

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that doop sound?

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Speaker 2: Okay? You know, like.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was about the British invasion and nobody cared about

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groups snapping their fingers anymore. Sure, but at the time

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she made friends with them. They weren't super famous, and

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so they're touring England. They're a band in England, so

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they become friends. She even went on a few dinner

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dates with John Lennon when the Beatles eventually came to

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the States.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And it was at that point that Phil Spector

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said to her, because they got offered to tour with

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the Beatles. The Ronettes were going to tour with the Beatles,

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and he said, you can go on tour with them,

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or you can marry me, but you can't do both.

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And so she thought, well, he's a producer and I

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love him, and this is a way to get every

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song I want recorded.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to go with Option B. Terrible move.

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Speaker 1: You could say that, Yes, you could say that.

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Speaker 2: We could literally spend a week podcasting about this.

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Speaker 1: So tell me what you know about the marriage of

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Ronnie Spector and Phil Spector.

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Speaker 2: Ronnie Spector wrote a b about her life with Phil Spector.

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I haven't read the book, and I don't know a

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whole lot, but I do know that he was very abusive,

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very controlling of her, would not let her leave the house.

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How did he keep her from leaving me? He stole

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her shoes. He stole her shoes. He figured, if I

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have every one of her shoes, she can't leave. This

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dude was obviously nuts from the outset nuts. Now he

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gets a lot of credit for the Wall of Sound

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and all this other stuff he produced, the ules, He

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did all these wonderful musical things. He was also a psycho, manipulative,

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abusive husband.

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Speaker 1: There is a strong overlap between psychotic and genius, and

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this guy was walking the line on that one.

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Speaker 2: He bought a coffin with a glass cover and told

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her if she ever leaked him, he would kill her

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and put her in it and let everybody look at

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her dead.

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Speaker 1: They tried to have children, Okay, couldn't have any children,

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so they decided to adopt. He treated their son nearly

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as badly as he treated her, kept him in his room,

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locked up without a bathroom.

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Speaker 2: Pretty bad.

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Speaker 1: Then a few years later he adopts twins without asking her,

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without her consent, without her knowledge, he goes and adopts twins.

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What it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It is really really crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I mean she literally has to escape by running

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away and her mother has to protect her from this

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crazy man.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, we could spend a lot of time here,

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but here's the thing that blew me away. Okay, so

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set Ronnie Spector aside for just a second, and I

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know we don't really want to get into this, but

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one of my eighties guilty pleasure movies is a John

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Landis movie that has Steve Gutenberg, Rosanna arkent Our, Cindeo Hall,

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Andrew Dice Clay. He's got all these bit parts in.

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It's called Amazon. Women on the Moon, Okay, and it's funny.

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It's just a lot of fun. There's a scene in

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the movie where they actually go and visit the moon

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and there's a woman there. Her name's Lana Clarkson. She's

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actually the woman that Phil Spector killed and late I

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went to jail for Selana Clarkson was a struggling actress.

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She had been in some sort of sword and sorcery movies.

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She had been in Amazon Women the Moon. She had

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been on Three's company, and she was working as a waitress.

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She wasn't giving him the time of day, but the

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management said, hey, that's Phil Spector. Go take good care

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of him and got to treat him like gold. And

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he said, hey, you want to take a ride in

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my limo, and she's like okay, I guess, took her

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back to his house, propositioned her. She refused, and he

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blew her head off. He said she kissed the barrel

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and the gun went off. Jerry didn't buy that. No,

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they did not.

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Speaker 1: Man, I kind of want to know more about Phil Spector,

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but since this is not a true crime podcast, right,

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we're gonna move on. I'm gonna circle it back over

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to the song because I'm going to police hopefully blow

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your mind speak a piece of information.

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Speaker 2: Okay, read, let's go. Yes, So they are recording be

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My Baby.

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Speaker 1: Phil Spector has a friend of his over and his

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girlfriend and they're waiting for the backup singers to show up,

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backups fingers supposed to be darlinge love. She doesn't show up. Okay,

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maybe she's scared a phill. I don't know what it is.

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But she didn't show up. And so Phil is not

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the guy who likes to be kept waiting, and so

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he's like, hey, man, I heard your girl can sing?

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Speaker 2: Can she sing?

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Speaker 1: And he's like, well, yeah, she can sing. And the

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girl tries to explain what her level of expertise is

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and Phil says, I don't care. Just go in there.

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Speaker 2: I just need some noise. The guy the sonny bono. Sure,

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let's go. Where are you going to get that information

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other than the Shirley podcast? Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.

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That is fantastic. We'll be here all man, wait to go.

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You blow my mind, Man, you blow my mind. I

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got something for you. Okay. Do you know the song

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that plays while David and Maddie consummate their relationship on Moonlighting?

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Could it be Be My Baby? It is Be my Baby.

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Speaker 1: We like to throw it back to Moonlighting whenever we can.

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Speaker 2: We love Moonlight. We got to talk about Moonlighting with

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Let's talk just briefly about the song take Me Home

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Tonight Okay, Eddie Money, Yeah, so I can remember. I don't.

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I don't like that song. I never have. It was

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annoying to me.

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Speaker 1: It was on all the time and annoyed me crazy.

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Speaker 2: And my Little Baby that it kept I was like, ah,

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this is so annoying. I had no idea that, just

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like Ronnie says, meant it was Ronnie and that being

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my Little Baby was from the sixties. Song had a

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direct reference to that song about fifty times in that

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song take Me Home Tonight, and that's her singing, and

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she's in the video she's doing that. She looked pretty good.

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She looked great. Yeah, she looked fantastic in eighty six. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I saw an interview with her on Letterman in eighty three,

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and you could tell that she was probably self medicating

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in order to get past the life that she had

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experienced with Phil Spector.

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Speaker 2: Well, so at.

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Speaker 1: One point she's complimenting Paul and she says, I love

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him so much. He's like the Woody Allen of Rotten

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and Roll.

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Speaker 2: It's litterally cute. Okay, we got to talk Brian Wilson

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for just a second. Oh yeah, I don't want to

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derail the whole podcast. My Baby. But we have to

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talk about Brian Wilson.

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Speaker 1: So without this song, we might not have had pet Sounds.

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Speaker 2: It's insane, right, Yeah. So Brian Wilson was driving his

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car one day with his girlfriend and he's driving down

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the road mine in his own business, and on the

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radio comes be my Baby.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: He literally is thunderstruck. He has to pull the car

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over and it's like psychologically jacked his brain, right, he

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has to pull it over and like analyze the song,

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like what's going on here? Because this is blowing my mind.

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The vocals, the guitars, the Wallace sound, all that is

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just blowing him away, and it literally affected him for

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decades afterwards.

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Speaker 1: It is an amazing So let's just say that we

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didn't really even talk about the music and the song itself,

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but it is an amazing song if you listen to

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the strings that are behind it. I mean, the engineer

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said he wept as he was mixing the strings in

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with the rest of the song, and it is truly amazing.

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But I think it may have hit Brian Wilson harder

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than it hit any other human being in the world.

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He would obsess over the song like a Islamic convert

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obsesses over the Koran. It's one of the things that

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I read he was mesmerized by. He would be like,

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listen to this. It sounds like the beating of a

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branch in the wind and a baby's rattle and the

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call of the mockingbird. I mean just it was affecting

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him in a significant and severe way, but in a

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real and practical way. He went, Okay, who are the

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musicians on this album? I gotta meet Phil Spector. I

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got to talk to him, and I got to find

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out who's playing this music. And it's because of that

471
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,079
that we get the Wrecking Crew and their contribution to

472
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,000
music history in pet sounds.

473
00:22:59,079 --> 00:23:02,519
Speaker 2: Don't Worry Baby is a sequel that he wrote for

474
00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:05,200
the Rawnetts to make a sequel to be my Baby.

475
00:23:05,279 --> 00:23:19,880
Let's listen to Don't Worry Baby. Roopquirre awesome classic.

476
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I can totally hear the Roett singing that

477
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,240
as a sequel, but they said.

478
00:23:24,039 --> 00:23:25,799
Speaker 2: No, So the Beach Boys took it and made it

479
00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:29,440
an instant classic for them. Absolutely. I thought it was interesting.

480
00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:32,720
The DJ who played the song when he got thunderstrucked

481
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,640
in his car, Wink Martindale. Okay, he's the game show

482
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,039
host from like Tic Tac Doe and Oh my Wenk Martindale,

483
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,799
Oh my gosh. Wow. So his daughter Carne Wilson, Yeah,

484
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,839
from Wilson Phillips. Yes, she said that during her childhood

485
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:56,680
she awoke every single morning to boom boom boom fam. Wow.

486
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,440
He compared it to Einstein's theory of relativity. Could spend

487
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,759
all day here, we probably knew more.

488
00:24:01,839 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 1: I think the fact that Brian Wilson had some psychological

489
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,160
issues and Phil Spector had some psychological issues meant that

490
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,440
there was a meeting of the unstable minds on this one.

491
00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:15,799
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what one thing I got to bring

492
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,720
up before we move on. When Phil Spector was in jail,

493
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,200
he still had control of this song and he would

494
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,079
not allow Ronnie Spector to play it at her concerts.

495
00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:25,799
Talk about freaking man.

496
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and both of them passed away last.

497
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: Year, right, I believe that's right.

498
00:24:29,599 --> 00:24:30,079
Speaker 1: Yeah.

499
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,559
Speaker 2: Dick Clark called it the record of a century when

500
00:24:32,599 --> 00:24:36,160
he introduced him Wow on American Bandstand, and now they

501
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,240
use it in Seaoleis commercials.

502
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: That's the best segue I've ever heard. What's our next song?

503
00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:50,519
Speaker 2: Next song? On the album, song number three is She's

504
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:56,119
like the wind, She's not the wind too much.

505
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 4: He rides to night.

506
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 5: Next time me.

507
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,519
Speaker 2: D This song is by Patrick Swayze.

508
00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: Patrick sways born in Houston, Texas, second child of Patsy Swayzee,

509
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,640
a dancer, choreographer, dance instructor, and like the dance person

510
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,240
in Texas.

511
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 2: That's right.

512
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,799
Speaker 1: His dad was an engineer and draftsman, but while he

513
00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:26,039
was in school he developed skills in ice skating, ballet dancing,

514
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,960
classical ballet. Acted in the school plays. Was a football

515
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,160
player hoping for a scholarship until he injured his knee

516
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:35,440
and wasn't able to play anymore, which.

517
00:25:35,319 --> 00:25:38,319
Speaker 2: Is why he had no dancing on his acting resume.

518
00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:40,559
Speaker 1: That and he wanted to be known as an actor,

519
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,359
not a dancer, but he did keep dancing. He also

520
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,240
did martial arts, which came into play later on for Roadhouse.

521
00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:49,880
Yes it did, few other beautiful movies that he meet,

522
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,039
Yes it did, he said. He used it to channel

523
00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:54,680
his self deprecating rage.

524
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:55,799
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.

525
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: So he met in nineteen seventy a lady named Lee's

526
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,839
meeting okay. She was a student in his mom's dance

527
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,519
classes and seventy two, he went to New York City

528
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:10,799
to complete his formal dance training at the Parkness Ballet

529
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,200
and Jeoffrey Ballet Schools, and then in nineteen seventy five

530
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:16,519
he married Lisa.

531
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, they stayed married until his death. Yeah. He said

532
00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:25,319
that she was the inspiration for this song. Oh that's sweet. Yeah,

533
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,359
that's sweet. Here's the interesting thing about why this song

534
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,119
got on this album. Okay, they would desperate for songs.

535
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:31,720
They were trying.

536
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:33,279
Speaker 1: They had a lot of songs that they wanted, but

537
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:36,599
they needed originals because the ones that were already popular

538
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,200
were too expensive and too hard to get.

539
00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: So Patrick's standing there and he's like, hey, guess what,

540
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:43,000
I've got a song.

541
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

542
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 2: So it turns out he wrote a song for the

543
00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:49,000
movie Grandview USA. He wrote it for the character that

544
00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:51,319
Jamie Lee Curtis played in that movie. Yeah. Well, they

545
00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:53,720
didn't accept it, right, So he tried to get it

546
00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:56,759
put in on the Young Blood soundtrack in nineteen eighty six.

547
00:26:56,759 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: So he'd been turned down twice at this point when

548
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,160
they are filming Dirty Dancing.

549
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 2: So they're like, well, yeah, we'll bring it in dude,

550
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,039
let me, let's hear it.

551
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: You know, Lisa got Leeb listens and says, I love it.

552
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,960
Let's put her down.

553
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: I have anything. She's not weird, it's cheap, it's available.

554
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,839
He's standing right here. It sounds good. Let's do it.

555
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:25,720
It reached number three on the Hot one hundred Deep.

556
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:27,359
You want to hear the two better songs?

557
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: Sure?

558
00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:30,799
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay. The only reason I bring it up

559
00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:33,200
is because they're fairly notable songs. All right, all right? Yeah,

560
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:36,279
so this reached number three on February twenty seventh, nineteen

561
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:39,880
eighty eight. The Dirty Dancing soundtrack is still extremely hot

562
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,720
at this time. Okay. The songs that were number one

563
00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:46,400
and number two. Number one was Father Figure by George Michael, Yeah, okay.

564
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,599
Number two was What Have I Done to Deserve This?

565
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,279
By The Pet Shop Boys? Okay, yeah, And then the

566
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,079
next week She's Like the Wind stayed at number three

567
00:27:54,119 --> 00:28:05,319
and got leap frogged Bye, Never Gonna Give You Up

568
00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:06,039
by Rick Astley.

569
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: Well he got Rick Roll, he did get rig Roll.

570
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: That's tragic. All right. Do we got to talk about

571
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,359
the music video for She's Like the Wind Really quick? Okay,

572
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,480
nothing fancy, lots of clips from the movie. Patrick Swayze

573
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:20,359
all over the place. Yeah, do you know who the

574
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,920
director of the She's Like a Wind video is?

575
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: I did not look that one up, Sir.

576
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: David freaking Fincher, Get the heck out of town. David

577
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,960
Fincher is the director Oh my Gosh, seven, Fight Club,

578
00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:40,039
Panic Room, Gone Girl, Zodiac, the Social Network. Oh my gosh,

579
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,599
David fincher' is one of the best directors in Hollywood

580
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,319
right now. Wow, And he's cutting his teeth on a

581
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:48,440
Patrick Swayze love song. That's fantastic. What do you think

582
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,039
of this one?

583
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: I love this song. It's beautiful, right, He's beautiful. And

584
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:54,720
I was, you know, amazed when I first learned that

585
00:28:54,759 --> 00:28:56,279
it was him that was singing. I was just like, oh,

586
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:58,599
this doesn't sound like him to me. Now, once I

587
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,160
know that he's singing, I'm like, Okay, I can hear

588
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,400
his voice in it, but he's got a very distinct

589
00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:06,839
singing style compared to what he sounds like speaking.

590
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, this reach number one on the Adult Contemporary chart,

591
00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:13,759
and because it's Patrick swayzey, it's literally one of the

592
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,400
most high profile one hit wonders of all time.

593
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a beautiful song, and I'm glad that he

594
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:22,920
finally found somebody who said, yes, let's put it in

595
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,519
our movie.

596
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Yeah, all right. Next song on the

597
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:44,920
album is a song called Hungry Eyes. Okay, so the

598
00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:47,720
music on this is awesome. I gotta tell you.

599
00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: I didn't dive into the intricacies of the music on

600
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,319
these songs. I just like listening to them. I'm not

601
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,880
rushing out to learn how to play the guitar solo

602
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,400
on this particular song. It's just these are kind of

603
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,599
adult contemporary style of music, and for me, I just

604
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,160
want to listen to it and I enjoy it.

605
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,599
Speaker 2: It is adult contemporary, but it's fun. Yeah. And I

606
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:07,240
used to slow dance to it when I was a

607
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:08,079
kid in the eighties.

608
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 6: Two.

609
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet this is on the Makeout List of

610
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:12,720
eighty eight. Absolutely.

611
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:15,799
Speaker 1: This song was written by Frankie Privett and John D.

612
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: Nicola. Yes, they also wrote another song on this album,

613
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,480
which we'll cover in a little while.

614
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: Sure, and it was sung by Eric Carmon. I got

615
00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:27,279
to issue a formal apology, Okay. When we covered Footloose,

616
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,200
I talked about Eric Carmon, and I talked about the

617
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,039
fact that he had written this song. He did not

618
00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:35,240
write this song. Right, he only performed it.

619
00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:43,599
Speaker 2: Okay.

620
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: He happened to be one of the guys that Jimmy Einer,

621
00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:49,200
who I talked about earlier, produced, and so he got

622
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,720
a call from Jimmy that said, hey, I got a song.

623
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:52,920
I'd like you to come sing it.

624
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a remake. Frankie Privett released this song

625
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,799
and was a mild hit in nineteen eighty four. It's

626
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:15,480
off their album making the point. Okay, so this is

627
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:18,119
an actual remake. Okay. You know we've talked a few

628
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,559
times before where a song is released and it just

629
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:22,599
doesn't quite hit, but people think, you know, this is

630
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:26,000
a good song. We need to give this another life. Yeah,

631
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:28,359
so they asked Eric Carmen to sing it, and they

632
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:30,519
re recorded it, reput it out there, and it made

633
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:31,960
it to number four on the Hot one hundred.

634
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,839
Speaker 1: Now Eric Carmon, just tell you this. I didn't get

635
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:36,279
into his history last time we talked about Footloose, Right,

636
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,799
he was the one that said I fing love it

637
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:42,359
on the lyrics for the most para Paradise, But anyway,

638
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,920
he loved music from an early age. Was classically trained

639
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,480
on the piano, picked up the guitar and taught himself

640
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:51,400
how to play and was a member of a group

641
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,839
called the Raspberries for a while. Huh, and they had

642
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:56,519
some mild success, and then he went solo. And when

643
00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:00,480
he was solo, he had a huge single called All

644
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:01,119
by Myself.

645
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:12,759
Speaker 2: I remember the song when I was young.

646
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can't mistake this, Yes, you can't mistake this,

647
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,359
and I love there's a comedy bit on this of

648
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:20,160
when does all by Myself go from being something good

649
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,640
to something bad? You know, when the little kid does something,

650
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,319
they're like, look, daddy did it all by myself too?

651
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:31,960
Oh by, here's something I did not know though. Okay,

652
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:37,200
he based this song on Rochmaninov's Piano Concerto number two.

653
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,240
I had no idea. I just thought this was a

654
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,559
cool pop song. It is based on a classical concerto.

655
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta ask you. Have you watched the music

656
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:49,200
video to this lately? No, you're missing out. I have

657
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,480
to say.

658
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: I can probably imagine because Eric Carmon appeared on stage

659
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:57,079
during the Dirty Dancing Live tour that occurred shortly after

660
00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:59,759
the movie was such a big success, and he was

661
00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:03,279
in a black muscle T shirt without much muscles, but

662
00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:08,279
lots of chest hairt a sequiny shoulder, padded jacket. Yeah,

663
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:11,640
and the big hair that every girl that you knew

664
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,640
in the eighth grade had.

665
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, well special. I gotta tell you you're really

666
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,440
missing out if you don't go back and watch the

667
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:20,720
music videos on this because it's part of the package. Right, Yeah,

668
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:23,000
so I watched the music video. Yeah. So you have

669
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:26,519
Eric Carmon and he's watching like a projector version of

670
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,319
Dirty Dancing on the wall. So you've got little clips

671
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:32,480
of the movie in the background or whatever. Right, smoking

672
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,799
hot model, Okay, that he's got hungry eyes for They

673
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:38,400
got hungry eyes for each other, all right, okay, but

674
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,279
this is where the video goes off the rails for me. Okay, okay,

675
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,319
So they keep staring at each other and nothing's really happening,

676
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:47,079
and little clips of dirty Dancing, and then the sax

677
00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:49,519
solo comes, and who plays the sax solo? The smoking

678
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:55,359
Hot Model, right, And then at the very end, like

679
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,519
they've been making eyes at each other the whole time,

680
00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:01,279
she's with a guy that is like a grip for

681
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:05,920
the music video. He's like a graying, short, balding guy

682
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,280
who's just like standing there. So she plans one on

683
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,400
him and I'm like, who is this guy? I mean,

684
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,599
it just looks like she grabs somebody off the street.

685
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,719
And then when her face like emerges from the kiss,

686
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,320
it's a different girl. Beavis and butt Head would have

687
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,639
a field day with this video. The original girl left

688
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:26,320
in the middle of the video to go play back

689
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:32,880
up for Robert paulin, Yeah, exactly, what exactly? That's fantastic.

690
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,159
Now I'll have to go check that way. That is awesome.

691
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: So in the movie, this is one of the most

692
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,199
memorable scenes, right this is the scene that we talked

693
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:46,519
about where you have Johnny and Baby dancing and standing

694
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:50,360
behind Baby guiding her is Penny, and you have this

695
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,400
look of longing from Penny as she looks down as

696
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:57,880
Johnny is starting to fall in love with Baby, who

697
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,480
you know was already in love with count.

698
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: It's some dancing montage.

699
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: They almost said we can't put this scene in yet

700
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,480
because it's too early. It's given it's tipping her hand,

701
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,239
But I mean, who didn't know that that was what

702
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,119
was going to happen?

703
00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: Of course, right, of course, great song, great song, love it.

704
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:15,320
This song reached number four February thirteenth of eighty eight,

705
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:18,719
So makeout song of eighty eight on Valentine's Day. Yep,

706
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:21,280
the same week that She's like to win hit number

707
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,239
ten is rocketing up to chart. Okay, all right, moving on,

708
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,360
all right, d So the next song on the album

709
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:33,119
is a song called Stay.

710
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: Okay, we can't talk too long on this song because

711
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,519
it's only a minute in one thirty six. The song

712
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:44,440
was written by Maurice Williams. Yes, this performed by Maurice

713
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,039
Williams and the Zodiacs. Right, he was fifteen, nineteen fifty three.

714
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:51,320
He's fifteen. He's in the car with the girl and

715
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,559
he's trying to get her to not go home. He fails,

716
00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:57,760
but he was like, man, it seemed like a good

717
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,480
tagline for a song, just stay. And he said, like

718
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:02,800
a flood, the words just came to me. So I

719
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,000
wrote the song when he was fifteen. He's with a girl. Yep,

720
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:09,079
he's trying to keep her from going home. In the lyrics,

721
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:12,679
he's like, your daddy won't mind. Right, So he develops

722
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,679
a couple of bands. They get out of high school.

723
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,599
They start touring around, not having a whole lot of

724
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:20,519
success at that time. They're called the Royal Charms. But

725
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:24,920
then as they're touring, their station wagon breaks down in Bluefield,

726
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,679
West Virginia, if you'd like to know which not too

727
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,039
far away they would be recording Dirty Dancing. Twenty something

728
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:34,719
years later, they come across a British built Ford car

729
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,159
known as the Zodiac, and that is where they got

730
00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:40,960
their name. Maurice Williams and the Zodiac.

731
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: Oh cool. Now.

732
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: They had a song called Little Darling, which you've probably

733
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,840
heard before but not by then got covered by another

734
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,079
Canadian group called the Diamonds, and then they weren't really

735
00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:54,679
super excited about stay. But this ten year old girl

736
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,800
here's the song and says that song is incredible, and

737
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,599
it's her causes them to go, you know what, we

738
00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:01,280
should go ahead and put that on the demo tape

739
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,119
that we send out, and that's how the song came famous.

740
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: The ten year old girl loved it. Yeah.

741
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: They recorded it in nineteen fifty nine in a Quanta Hut, which,

742
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,360
by the way, but Shirley can't be serious podcast studio

743
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:14,639
is also inside a Quantza hut. It's a great place

744
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:15,199
to record.

745
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: We're Fancy, We're Fancy. This is the shortest number one

746
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,360
song in Billboard history. In history.

747
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,159
Speaker 1: It's so short that it was made a part of

748
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:27,679
another longer song by Jackson Brown later on.

749
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jackson Brown played it at the end of all

750
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,880
of his concerts. I thought that was kind of a

751
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,400
cool The Four Seasons have covered this YEP. I listened

752
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,079
to Cindy Lapper's version last night. It's good good, It's

753
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:38,280
a good song. YEP.

754
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,679
Speaker 1: I like the song, but it's been over for like

755
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,159
three four minutes ago, so probably time to move on

756
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,599
to our next song.

757
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,039
Speaker 2: Last song on side one.

758
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: Yes, this is obviously not a sixty song, right, this

759
00:37:58,519 --> 00:37:59,280
is a modern song.

760
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was released as a single. I didn't

761
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,800
know that, really, I did not know that either.

762
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,519
Speaker 1: This was one of the ones that was one of

763
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:08,920
the four that were released as a single, because I

764
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,840
remember I was like, I know that I've heard the

765
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,599
song on the radio before, but because it was released

766
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:16,800
as a single. Now it's by a lady named Mary Clayton.

767
00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:20,079
She spells her name m E r R Y. Do

768
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:21,400
you know what she's born on?

769
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: Christmas Day? Merry Christmas, Mary freaking Christmas.

770
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:25,599
Speaker 3: Yep.

771
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:36,159
Speaker 1: If only she had been in Dumb and Dumber, we

772
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:40,760
would have come full circle. Very this song is about

773
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,559
deciding to have sex for the first time. Yeah, it's

774
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:44,280
like driving around.

775
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,599
Speaker 2: I don't think I know. Yes, yes, we are going

776
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:51,760
to do it. Got her to stay. Do you know

777
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,000
who the person who is originally going to sing the song,

778
00:38:54,559 --> 00:38:58,159
Mary Wells Okay, okay. Now you may remember her from

779
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:03,480
the song My Guy, Yeah, my guy. Yeah. She was

780
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:05,559
hired to record the song, but when she came to

781
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,679
the studio to cut it, she had a horrible cold

782
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,920
and then she just said, forget this crap, I'm out

783
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,360
of here and just left. So the producer's like sitting

784
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,320
there ready to record. He's got nobody record it. Well,

785
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,599
one of the backup singers is Mary Clayton okay, and

786
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:23,280
he's like, oh god, now I'm gonna have to explain this,

787
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,159
and he's like Mary Wells, Mary Clayton close enough they

788
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:31,920
won't even notice Hi, this is Mary. Yeah. So because

789
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,199
their names were the same, he didn't have to do

790
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,519
any explaining and he just said, Mary Clayton, would you

791
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:41,360
like to sing this song? She's like yes, yes, Okay,

792
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,960
that's awesome. Now wait a minute, I got I got

793
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,639
to play this for you. Because when I saw the

794
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,480
name Mary Clayton, I knew exactly who it was, and

795
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:52,039
you're saying you don't know who this is. Yeah, okay,

796
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,519
let me play this song for you. We talked about

797
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:57,039
it on our Good Fellow's episode, Yes we did. So

798
00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:58,880
this is Give Me Shelter by the Stones. What do

799
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,239
you got? Okay? So Mary Clayton in the sixties when

800
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,159
Gimme Shelter was being recorded, yep, got a call in

801
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:08,000
the middle of the night. Her producer's like, hey, these

802
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,199
guys are in from England. They're the Rolling something or others.

803
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,639
We're not really sure who they are.

804
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be opening up for the Ronettes exactly exactly.

805
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:20,079
Speaker 2: So they're recording the song and they want a woman

806
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:22,960
to sing this part, and so she's laying in bed

807
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:26,599
like crap, she's pregnant, like major pregnant yea. And her

808
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:28,480
husband's like, you need to get down there and sing that.

809
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,159
She's like, I'm not going. He's like, guess you are.

810
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:33,800
She's like fine. So she's stomping around. She says she

811
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,760
was really mad. She gets down there, they introduced themselves.

812
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,880
She's like, okay, hi, Mick, you know Keith, you know

813
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,880
who are you guys? Like, oh, the Rolling stones okay, great,

814
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,719
and Mick had written this part in the song that

815
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,840
he really wanted to be sung by a female, and

816
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:56,159
the words were rape and murder. It's just a shot away.

817
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,039
So she sings it with a lot of personality and

818
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:01,199
mixed like, yeah, that's perfect. Could you do it one

819
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,639
more time? And she's kind of pissed because it's the

820
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,199
three o'clock in the morning, right, So she says, yeah,

821
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,760
I'll do it, and in her head she's like, I'm

822
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,079
gonna sing this next version and I'm gonna blow them

823
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:15,119
out of this room. And that's where you get this

824
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:49,119
part right here. It's unmistakable. She is singing so hard,

825
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,719
her voice is cracking and breaking, and it's so passionate.

826
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: So we get this incredible piece of this incredible song.

827
00:41:57,679 --> 00:41:59,159
But it has a tragic ending.

828
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:01,599
Speaker 2: Yeah it does. The next day she has a miscarriage.

829
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,199
It's terrible. I thought that was urban legend. I heard

830
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,920
her say that right from her very mouth. Yeah, that

831
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,119
the stress and strenuous nature of this song she believes

832
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,679
cause that miscarriage. Yeah.

833
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,639
Speaker 1: She's been a backup singer for literally dozens and dozens

834
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:20,039
of amazing acts. She sang with Clyde King. She sang

835
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:23,800
with Lenyard Skinnyard sweet Home Alabama. That's her, you're listening

836
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,920
to you sing in the background. She co starred with

837
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,719
Ali Sheety and Made to Order, Oh my gosh, he's seriously.

838
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,119
Speaker 2: Yeah and a little bit.

839
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:34,039
Speaker 1: Same year, she was a major character in the final

840
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:37,880
season of Cagney and Lacy. Oh and you Ready Yep.

841
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,320
In nineteen eighty nine, she recorded a cover version of

842
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,119
the song Almost Paradise with Eric Carmon.

843
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,599
Speaker 2: WHOA, that's a deep cut right there. Good job, I

844
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:49,159
had no idea about that, Okay.

845
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,079
Speaker 1: So one final tragedy though. Twenty fourteen, she was in

846
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:57,800
a car crash in Los Angeles, California, and both of

847
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,079
her legs had to be amputated.

848
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: Tragic. When she woke up, the doctor was checking on

849
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,760
her mental state and he said, I just want you

850
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,199
to know I had to take your legs. She said,

851
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,679
can I still sing? And he said yeah, and she

852
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,679
said that I'm okay.

853
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: That's fantastic, that's that's amazing. Well a great, yeah, that's

854
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:20,800
a great one.

855
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: All right. It's stop on your tape player, kick it out,

856
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,559
flip it over side to dirty Dances sound turn.

857
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,039
Speaker 1: This This song is one that I recognized, But it's

858
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:51,679
not the group that I was expecting.

859
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: It's not the singer that I was expecting. Right, I looked.

860
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: I can't figure out where the song is in them.

861
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't remember. Yeah, I don't remember. I'm not really sure.

862
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: And obviously there was something where they had to get

863
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,400
a different group to sing the song because this is

864
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,559
not the sixties.

865
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: Version of the song.

866
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: But so on the album, we're gonna talk about it, Okay,

867
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:12,679
let's go all right. So this song was originally recorded

868
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,559
by a female singer named Leslie Gore. She recorded it

869
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:18,679
when she was only seventeen years old, but she had

870
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,000
already had two mega hits before that tell Me. At sixteen,

871
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:25,760
she had had It's My Party, which was a number

872
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,559
one hit in nineteen sixty three, Yes, followed up by

873
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:31,800
another top forty hit called Judy's Turn to Cry, and

874
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,719
then she comes out with you Don't Own Me as

875
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,159
her third big hit. All by the time that she's

876
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:36,960
turned seventeen.

877
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: That's incredible.

878
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,519
Speaker 1: This song is like women's power song before you had

879
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:47,320
this real big feminist movement that occurred, expresses like emancipation

880
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:50,480
and says, hey, you don't own me. I get to

881
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,320
do what I want to do, and you don't tell me,

882
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,840
and you don't put me in a place I wonder.

883
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 2: Phil Spector wrote this song I don't know. I think

884
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,800
somebody came up to her and says, nobody puts baby

885
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,159
in the corner. She said, you're right now. This song

886
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,599
reached number two February first, nineteen sixty four. Yeah, the

887
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,360
number one song that could not overcome I Want to

888
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,519
Hold Your Hand by the Beatles. There you go.

889
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:14,159
Speaker 1: So this song was covered by a group called the

890
00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:17,000
Blow Monkeys. I'm not familiar with these guys. They are

891
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:19,360
a UK band and they've had a few hits.

892
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: I remember one song that they had in the eighties

893
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,400
that was pretty big. Yeah, in eighty six called Digging

894
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:24,840
Your Scene.

895
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:45,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was on their second album, Animal Magic, which

896
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,360
got to number twenty one on the UK Album's chart.

897
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,679
It got attention because it was talking about the backlash

898
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,039
against gay people, with AIDS being a pandemic at the time. Okay,

899
00:45:56,119 --> 00:45:59,159
So January of eighty seven, before Dirty Dancing comes out,

900
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,920
they released their third album called She Was Only a

901
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,920
Grocer's Daughter, which is a reference to the Prime Minister

902
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,639
Margaret Thatcher.

903
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:07,519
Speaker 2: At the time okay. It got to.

904
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: Number twenty in the UK, and then it got to

905
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,239
number five in the UK and number twenty eight in Italy.

906
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:16,079
Wasn't released in the United States and so it didn't

907
00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:20,039
chart there, but it was featured in a movie, Police

908
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:22,360
Academy four Citizens on Patrol.

909
00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:27,559
Speaker 2: Oh, I love the Police Academy movies. That's fantastic. Yeah, Hey,

910
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:30,079
I'll tell you who did cover this? Yeah? Jone Jet

911
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:33,119
released a cover of this song as her first solo

912
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,519
single in nineteen seventy nine, which is kind of cool

913
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:39,880
in itself. But the B side of that single, uh

914
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,000
huh was an early version of I Love rock and Roll? Nice?

915
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:45,119
How about that? That's awesome. Hey, I'll tell you where

916
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:47,000
I know this song from. And this is gonna be weird.

917
00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:50,679
Maybe it's just me. Yeah, But the NFL released a

918
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:54,679
commercial a couple of years ago dedicated to their line

919
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:59,199
of clothing, and Alyssa Milano sang the song why the video.

920
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: Wowo Alyssa Milana, Yes of who's the boss fan? Okay,

921
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:08,760
we've done with this one. Yep, all right, I'm in

922
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,719
the moon for some country. You got any country on

923
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:11,199
this album?

924
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:35,079
Speaker 2: Well, let's see if we can oblige you here. This

925
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,039
song is unmistakable.

926
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've heard very many songs sound

927
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,559
anywhere near the song, but it is one that.

928
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: People just know. You just know. Hey Baby. Yeah.

929
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: This song is by Bruce Channel Okay. He originally was

930
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,280
a performer for a radio program called Louisiana Hayride. Then

931
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,280
he joined up with a harmonica player, yes, which you

932
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,559
can hear in this song. His name is Delbert McClinton

933
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:01,320
and they were doing country music together and Bruce wrote

934
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,039
the song Hey Baby with Margaret Cobb in nineteen fifty nine,

935
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,559
performed the song for two years before they recorded it.

936
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:12,280
Recorded it in Fort Worth with producer Bill Smith, and

937
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,360
the song went to number one in the US in

938
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:20,440
March nineteen sixty two, held that position for three weeks.

939
00:48:21,199 --> 00:48:25,559
Now this country singer gets to go tour Europe. Yeah,

940
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:28,280
and he was assisted at one of the gigs by

941
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,320
the Beatles Oh Wow, who were unknown at the time.

942
00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:36,800
John Lennon, who had heard Hey Baby, actually had it

943
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,119
on his own jew box, was amazed by mcclinton's harmonica playing,

944
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,039
and legend is that Lennon got taught how to play

945
00:48:45,039 --> 00:48:47,519
the harmonica or at least how to Play It Better

946
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:50,840
by McClinton, And if you listen to the song love

947
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:51,840
Me do, you.

948
00:48:51,800 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 2: Can hear those skills play that for you real quick, dude,

949
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,719
you blow my mind. There you go. That's fantastic. So

950
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,119
this is the first number one hit on the Hot

951
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:10,519
one hundred with an exclamation point in the title fantastic.

952
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:13,079
There you go, love it. And this was used in

953
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:15,360
the movie when they were on top of the log

954
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,559
and they're working on their dancing in ballads. Yes, yeah,

955
00:49:18,639 --> 00:49:21,000
so there you go. Okay, we're done with that one. Yep.

956
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,400
All right, moving on to the next song called Overload

957
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:26,760
by Alfie Zapacosta.

958
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:43,159
Speaker 1: This, okay, this was not on my playlist in nineteen

959
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:47,079
eighty seven, eighty eight, or any year thereafter. Okay, you

960
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:49,800
mentioned the singer's name is Zapacosta.

961
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 2: Yep.

962
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: I don't know anything else that he has done except

963
00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:56,599
for the radio commercial jingle for Pizza Nova.

964
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: Are you serious? That's it?

965
00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: That's all I got, Wow, recorded in the same year

966
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,679
that he recorded this.

967
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Well here's what I got. I got one thing

968
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,920
on this neat it to me? Yeah, all right. So

969
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:09,679
obviously they had a budget for this album and once

970
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,559
they got done paining Phil Spector, there wasn't a lot

971
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:16,480
left over, right, so they needed some songs. So Jimmy

972
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:19,119
Iiner had to look around and be creative, right right,

973
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,480
So he found this Canadian singer guitarist named Alfie's Apacosta.

974
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,800
He agreed to write and cut Overload for two thousand

975
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,440
dollars on way. Okay, there you go, two thousand bucks

976
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,519
for this one. Yeah, I doubt he got anything on

977
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,320
the back end either. How would you like to get

978
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,320
two grand and no royalties from an album that sold

979
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,119
thirty two million?

980
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:38,519
Speaker 6: Companies?

981
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:40,679
Speaker 1: Who would not like that very much? Feel a little

982
00:50:40,679 --> 00:50:45,280
bit like Vincent Price and Thriller exactly? He did get

983
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,639
twice as much as Vincent got.

984
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: There, that's true. Okay, we done with this one.

985
00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:51,119
Speaker 1: Let's be done with this one. I'd be fast forward

986
00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:52,639
and clear this one already.

987
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,679
Speaker 2: All right. The next song is a song called Love

988
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,559
is Strange? Hey, Jason, how do you call? Please do

989
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:01,079
not say that?

990
00:51:18,039 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me who the song is? Block Mickey and Sylvia.

991
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,960
Mickey and Sylvia. So Mickey is Mickey Baker born in Louisville, Kentucky.

992
00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:28,760
His mother was black and his father, who he never

993
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,800
met was probably white, okay, thirty six. At the age

994
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,960
of eleven, he was put into an orphanage. Ran Away

995
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,159
had to be retrieved by the staff from Saint Louis,

996
00:51:38,679 --> 00:51:43,239
New York City, Chicago, and Pittsburgh. This is this guy

997
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,400
has got some legs on, so he can move at

998
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,320
eleven or twelve or whatever he is. Eventually the orphanage

999
00:51:48,519 --> 00:51:52,480
quit looking for him. At the age of sixteen, he stayed.

1000
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: In New York City.

1001
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,599
Speaker 1: He worked as a dishwasher and a laborer, but when

1002
00:51:56,679 --> 00:51:59,840
he was hanging out in the pool halls, he realized

1003
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,960
he could become a full time pool shark. That lasted

1004
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,639
for a little while until he decided to change his life,

1005
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,960
went back to dishwashing and was determined to become a

1006
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,920
jazz musician. And he was going to play the trumpet.

1007
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,920
And then he went to the store with fourteen dollars

1008
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,639
and they said, well, you don't have enough. Would you

1009
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,239
like a guitar? Oh, my gosh, And that's how he

1010
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,840
became a guitar player. By nineteen forty nine, Yeah, he

1011
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,320
had his own combo, had a few paying jobs, decided

1012
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,159
to go out to California, but they were not receptive

1013
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:34,480
to progressive jazz music in California at that time, So

1014
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:37,280
he got stranded in California. Then he saw a show

1015
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,880
by a blues guitarist named pee Wee Creighton. And he

1016
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,079
saw that pee Wee Creighton was driving a nice car,

1017
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:45,440
and he's like, hey, can you actually make money playing

1018
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,880
this simple blues stuff? And he's like, oh yeah, he said,

1019
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,880
So I started bending strings. I was starving to death,

1020
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,159
and blues was just the financial thing for me, right then,

1021
00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:58,719
So starts playing the blues. By the mid nineteen fifties,

1022
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,920
he's a music instructor and he has a student in

1023
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,480
his class named Sylvia When you.

1024
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: Jesus and That's fantastic.

1025
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: He gets inspired by the musical duo of Les Paul

1026
00:53:21,559 --> 00:53:24,639
and Mary Ford and says, we should make a duo together,

1027
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,920
and that is how the group Mickey and Sylvia form. Okay,

1028
00:53:29,079 --> 00:53:32,480
so they start doing tours together. They end up sharing

1029
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:36,280
a bill with Bo Diddley. They hear Bo Diddley play

1030
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,119
the song called Love Is Strange and they say, hey,

1031
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,119
can we record that? He says, sure, go for it.

1032
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:45,400
Single was released in November fifty six. It became their

1033
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,039
biggest hit topped the US R and B charts and

1034
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,679
was number eleven on the US Pop charts in fifty seven.

1035
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,079
They recorded a second version of it, You know this one.

1036
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: No.

1037
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,639
Speaker 1: They recorded a second version of it in nineteen sixty two,

1038
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:03,039
and it featured a drummer on his first paid session

1039
00:54:03,079 --> 00:54:09,760
gig Okay. The drummer's name was Bernard Pretty Party, who

1040
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,159
later went on to develop the Pretty Shuffle, which we

1041
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,880
talked about as the inspiration for the drumbeat of the

1042
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,400
Toto song Rosanna.

1043
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: It comes full circle show that is blowing my mind.

1044
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:25,039
That is fantastic.

1045
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: They eventually broke up, but Sylvia had some success afterwards.

1046
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: So Sylvia had a song in nineteen seventy three that

1047
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,880
reached number three. Okay, it's called pillow Talk. So I

1048
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,719
listened to pillow Talk. She simulates an orgasm in this song.

1049
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,159
In the seventies, early seventies. Oh yeah, here's the other

1050
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:48,079
thing more important than that, uh huh. She creates sugar

1051
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:51,880
Hill Records, which you may have heard of because they

1052
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,159
put together the Sugarhill Gang, who had the breakthrough hip

1053
00:54:56,199 --> 00:54:59,599
hop song rappers Delight Again.

1054
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 7: You don't stop the record to the rhythm, Go back

1055
00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:10,000
and check out our Beastie Boys versus running in and

1056
00:55:10,039 --> 00:55:13,079
see episodes with Mister Deaf Dave David Wright.

1057
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:15,639
Speaker 1: I remember having sugar Hill Records when I was a kid.

1058
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,599
I remember having rappers to light off the sugar Hill label.

1059
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: When I saw that, I nearly fell out of my chair. Yeah.

1060
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,199
Speaker 1: Her her maiden name was Vanderpool, but she married a

1061
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,280
guy named Joe Robinson and so she was Sylvia Robinson

1062
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,800
and he and she formed sugar Hill Records together in

1063
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:34,480
seventy nine.

1064
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: That's fantastic. So I got just a couple of things

1065
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,360
for you here. Okay. So it's the from the famous

1066
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,800
scene in the movie where Patrick Swayze and Jennifer Gray

1067
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:52,199
are actually like lip syncing the words to each other. Yes,

1068
00:55:53,320 --> 00:56:03,360
how you call your boy? I think it's still doesn't Dancer,

1069
00:56:10,679 --> 00:56:13,199
And they're crawling around on the floor and it's super sexy,

1070
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,920
little air guitar going on. Yes. So eleanor Birsty watched it.

1071
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,039
She's like, Wow, this is fantastic. This has to stay

1072
00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:20,280
in the movie. The problem is we don't have the

1073
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,079
budget for this song. Worse than that, they can't just

1074
00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:25,800
pluck it out like plug and play with something else

1075
00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:27,920
because they lip sing too. Yeah, it's the best part

1076
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,119
of the scene. And so everybody's watching it going, well, crap,

1077
00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:34,599
what are we gonna do? And so luckily they managed

1078
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,280
to get the music authorized, but they were really nervous

1079
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,599
for a little bit that they were gonna have to

1080
00:56:39,639 --> 00:56:42,480
cut this scene for financial reasons. Awesome. You know what

1081
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:45,119
other movie this? Uh, this song appears in tell Me

1082
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:52,280
I'm Not Kidding Deep Throat. In fact, it caused a

1083
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,599
second resurgence of this song.

1084
00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:56,159
Speaker 1: The fact that it was in Deep Throat. Yeah, well,

1085
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,039
I mean it was a very popular movie. There you go,

1086
00:56:58,159 --> 00:56:58,639
keep cut.

1087
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:04,679
Speaker 2: How about that something? Okay, okay, onto the next song.

1088
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,519
This next song is called where are You Tonight? Where

1089
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,199
where are You?

1090
00:57:10,679 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 6: Oh?

1091
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: That's he haw, I'm sorry wrong song?

1092
00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 5: I want.

1093
00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:22,719
Speaker 2: Where all right?

1094
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,559
Speaker 1: This is a new song, another eighties hit because it's

1095
00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:29,400
a new song. This is by Charles Thomas Johnson, who

1096
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,400
was one of the founding members of the Doobie Brothers.

1097
00:57:32,599 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that blew me away. Those guys are the Doobie Brothers.

1098
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went on and had his own solo career afterwards,

1099
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:41,480
and that includes him getting a call from jimmy Er saying, hey,

1100
00:57:41,559 --> 00:57:43,960
we need another song for this album.

1101
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, what Jimmy Ier called him. He said he had

1102
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,199
to go to a remote studio in Louisiana mm hmm.

1103
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,920
And he said it was just a paper mill town.

1104
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,480
It smelled bad, and he's like, well, who cares, that's

1105
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,159
fine whatever. So he cut this song. When he turned

1106
00:57:57,199 --> 00:57:59,519
it in, had never seen a movie, didn't know anything

1107
00:57:59,519 --> 00:58:02,800
about it. Mm hmm, and then found out later, of

1108
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,960
course the soundtrack was this massive sensation. Yeah. He said

1109
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,320
he got a new BMW out of the deal. Nice.

1110
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:11,840
So it's the Field.

1111
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: Though it's an eighty song, it has a feel very

1112
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,920
much like the older songs that are on this album.

1113
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,320
I agree, it's got a doopy, fingersnapping R and B

1114
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,000
feel too sure. Yeah, moving on now, We're moving on

1115
00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:24,920
to a song that actually was an R and B song,

1116
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,119
maybe the R and B song, This do wop song

1117
00:58:28,159 --> 00:58:29,480
of all doop songs.

1118
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,559
Speaker 2: This song is called in the Still of the Night.

1119
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:38,039
I was waiting for it.

1120
00:58:38,239 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: I was waiting for I'm like, if you don't play

1121
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,519
White Snake right now, I'm going to not forgive you.

1122
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I knew it. I knew it was coming,

1123
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,119
and I'm glad you did it. Hey, I'm glad it

1124
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:52,599
didn't disappoint, but we are covering that song later this summer.

1125
00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:56,159
Speaker 1: It's another hit from nineteen eighty seven and it's the

1126
00:58:56,199 --> 00:58:58,280
third Still of the Night. There was a Still of

1127
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,760
the Night by Cole Porter as well. Changed the spelling

1128
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,920
of night on this one so that those two songs

1129
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:19,039
didn't get completed. This song is by the Five Satins.

1130
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:21,840
They formed in New Haven, Connecticut in nineteen fifty four.

1131
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:26,599
Started off with Fred Paris and had Lewis people, Stanley Dorch,

1132
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,519
Ed Martin, Jimmy Freeman and Nat Moseley. They didn't have

1133
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:32,360
a whole lot of success, A little bit, not a

1134
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,559
whole lot. This song was written by Fred Paris and

1135
00:59:34,599 --> 00:59:38,280
they recorded it in the Saint Bernadette Catholic School basement

1136
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,480
in New Haven, Connecticut, February nineteen fifty six, just.

1137
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: After church one day. Can I use the basement? Sure?

1138
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:48,320
Go ahead. This song is one of the only songs

1139
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:53,239
to be released and charted three times as its original form. Yeah.

1140
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: It also has been released and charted by Boys to Men.

1141
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: That's how I know it from the nineties version of

1142
00:59:58,800 --> 00:59:59,360
the Boys to Men.

1143
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: I knew the song. I knew the song and the

1144
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,360
Still of the Night. Well before this, I actually kind

1145
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,199
of listened to fifties music, even before Dirty Dancing and

1146
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:09,480
made it cool again. Okay, so I was familiar with it,

1147
01:00:09,559 --> 01:00:12,280
but I did not know about the Debbie Gibson.

1148
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dabbie Gibson, that's cool. They didn't realize that how

1149
01:00:16,199 --> 01:00:17,159
good this song was.

1150
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,159
Speaker 1: It was released originally as the B side to another

1151
01:00:21,199 --> 01:00:23,800
single Yeah. It was on a single called the Jones

1152
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,440
Girl Wow, and it ended up charting at number three

1153
01:00:26,639 --> 01:00:28,920
on the R and B chart and number twenty.

1154
01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: Five on the pop chart. Wow. Okay.

1155
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,519
Speaker 1: In a case of painfully bad timing, the group's lead

1156
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:37,440
singer was drafted into the Army right after the success

1157
01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:39,320
of In the Still of the Night, so they had

1158
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,840
to reorganize again, but eventually he came back.

1159
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: I wrote this hit song and now I'm in the army. Yeah.

1160
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,599
I did read that Fred Paris wrote this about a

1161
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:51,800
former girlfriend. She moved away. He tried to contact her, couldn't,

1162
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,960
So it's likely that there's a woman out there who

1163
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,400
doesn't even realize that this song is written about her. Wow.

1164
01:00:58,679 --> 01:01:01,719
Speaker 1: Iconic song, the doo wop song of all duop songs.

1165
01:01:01,719 --> 01:01:02,519
You're Ready to move on.

1166
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:04,239
Speaker 2: Okay, wait a minute, do we forget anything.

1167
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,599
Speaker 1: We've talked about eleven songs, but there's twelve songs on

1168
01:01:06,639 --> 01:01:07,000
the album.

1169
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,239
Speaker 2: What happened? I guess it's time to kick in the

1170
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,960
finale and have the time of our life.

1171
01:01:11,199 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 4: No time like this, people guess us he's such.

1172
01:01:26,519 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 6: And Okay, we knew that we skipped it.

1173
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: Everybody, we knew we skipped it. But how do you

1174
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,079
not put this song at the end. This belongs at

1175
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:49,000
the end. Is the finale. It is the finale. You

1176
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:51,119
have to close with this one or else people will

1177
01:01:51,159 --> 01:01:54,920
be stampeding for the doors on our podcast. So once again,

1178
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,440
this is a song that is written by Frankie Privett

1179
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,800
and John Dinaicole. So here's how this happens.

1180
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,039
Speaker 1: Jimmy Iner, who knows Frankie Privett YEP, calls him up

1181
01:02:03,079 --> 01:02:04,480
and says, I got a movie.

1182
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:05,159
Speaker 2: I need you to.

1183
01:02:05,079 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: Write a song for it. And he's like, what's the

1184
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,840
name of the movie, Dirty Dancing. He's like, oh my gosh,

1185
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,159
Jimmy's doing porn movies again. He's like, no, no, no, no,

1186
01:02:15,199 --> 01:02:18,480
And in five minutes he tells him the plot of

1187
01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:18,960
the movie.

1188
01:02:19,039 --> 01:02:21,639
Speaker 2: Right, yes, girl, boy love.

1189
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:23,639
Speaker 1: Dancing, all of that good stuff sixties.

1190
01:02:24,039 --> 01:02:24,199
Speaker 2: Right.

1191
01:02:24,559 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: He says, I need this as the finale song. Right,

1192
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:30,440
this is gonna be our finale song. I think it

1193
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,440
could change your life. Frankie Prives like, okay, he goes,

1194
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,400
there's just one problem. Frankie Prive is like okay. He goes,

1195
01:02:38,039 --> 01:02:41,000
it has to be seven minutes long. And he said,

1196
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:44,360
what goes, well, the finale is seven minutes long, So

1197
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,119
the song has to be seven minutes long. He's like, okay,

1198
01:02:48,519 --> 01:02:50,239
all right, I'll give it a try. I'll see what

1199
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,480
he can do. Right, And so he comes up with

1200
01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:55,079
the music for it. He's got this kind of idea

1201
01:02:55,519 --> 01:02:56,239
of what.

1202
01:02:56,119 --> 01:02:56,639
Speaker 2: It should be.

1203
01:02:57,639 --> 01:03:00,559
Speaker 1: He records that. He's listening to it in his car.

1204
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:05,119
He calls Jimmy Ironer and said plays the track for him.

1205
01:03:05,159 --> 01:03:07,480
He's like, how does this sound? He goes, that's great,

1206
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,400
develop that into a full song. So he's listening to

1207
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:15,840
it in his car. He's on the Garden State Parkway exit. Okay,

1208
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:21,320
and he's he's got this this. Jimmy Ironer said, this

1209
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,440
song could change your life. And the only word that

1210
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,280
he can think of is the end word, which is.

1211
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:31,239
Speaker 2: Life, life, life. And then he comes up with it.

1212
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,559
Speaker 5: I had the time of my life and the rest

1213
01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:53,880
is history.

1214
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,199
Speaker 2: That's fantastic. That's a great story. Yeah, I heard that

1215
01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:02,000
when Jimmy Ironer called him that. He said, number one,

1216
01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:03,199
it's got to be seven minutes long.

1217
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:03,559
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1218
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,599
Speaker 2: Also, it's got to start slow, finish fast, and have

1219
01:04:06,639 --> 01:04:07,320
a Mama beat.

1220
01:04:08,119 --> 01:04:08,239
Speaker 6: Oh.

1221
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 2: By the way, it's got to be a hit because

1222
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,519
you know, it's the most important song on the entire movie. Right.

1223
01:04:12,719 --> 01:04:15,679
Speaker 1: The version that they listened to when they were filming

1224
01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:18,599
the movie was the version that Prankie Privet recorded.

1225
01:04:18,719 --> 01:04:20,719
Speaker 2: It's his voice the demo right right.

1226
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: When you see Patrick Squaysey lip syncing the words, he's

1227
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,760
lip syncing to Frankie Privet, not to Bill Medley.

1228
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 2: That's incredible. So Okay, when Jimmy Ironer is going around

1229
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,800
trying to find people to record the vocals for this song,

1230
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,519
knowing that it's the most important song, that it's the finale,

1231
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:39,199
that you've got to knock it out of the park,

1232
01:04:39,239 --> 01:04:41,559
he goes to Donna Summer and Lionel Ritchie. You know

1233
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:45,000
what they say, No, no, not interested, who's this movie?

1234
01:04:45,079 --> 01:04:46,920
I mean, what are we talking about here? Right now?

1235
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,159
Speaker 1: It's important to note. They weren't sure that this was

1236
01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:52,920
going to be the song. Initially, they listened to multiple

1237
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,320
tapes of multiple songs trying to figure out what the

1238
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,599
best song for the finale was, right, and it's ken

1239
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:02,400
you were to the choreographer who's listening to the song

1240
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,000
with Miranda Richardson trying to find the perfect song, and

1241
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:07,159
they go after tape after tape after tape and they

1242
01:05:07,159 --> 01:05:09,360
can't figure it out. And they get to the very

1243
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,480
last tape and he says, and I hear it. Is

1244
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,239
it just because we're on the very last tape that

1245
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:14,800
I think that this has to be the right song?

1246
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,039
Speaker 2: Right? And she's like, no, this is it, this is

1247
01:05:18,239 --> 01:05:20,559
this is the one that it has to be. Oh,

1248
01:05:20,599 --> 01:05:23,280
that's better. They also asked Daryl.

1249
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:27,159
Speaker 1: Hall and Kim Carnes, Okay, now, interestingly, Daryl Hall had

1250
01:05:27,239 --> 01:05:28,920
covered The Righteous Brothers.

1251
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:34,039
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Interesting, Okay, go ahead. So they said

1252
01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:37,480
no as well, because Dirty Dancing, we don't know the producer,

1253
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,320
we don't know the director, we don't know the lead actors, right,

1254
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,679
Patrick Swayze, who's that, right, Jennifer Gray never heard of her? Right?

1255
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,440
And so they went to Bill Medley and they're like, hey, Bill,

1256
01:05:46,519 --> 01:05:49,199
you're the voice of the sixties. He actually was coming

1257
01:05:49,199 --> 01:05:52,840
off a very popular moment in time because top Gun

1258
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,400
had sort of reintroduced him to pop culture yep, from

1259
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,840
You've Lost That Love and feeling right all right. So

1260
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,960
they went to him and he's like, no, my wife's

1261
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,159
getting ready to have a baby. I taught promised her

1262
01:06:03,199 --> 01:06:05,159
I'd be there for the birth. I don't have time

1263
01:06:05,199 --> 01:06:07,800
for this. I'm not doing it, okay. So then they

1264
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,400
went to Jennifer warrens Now she had done up where

1265
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,679
I belong and right Time of the Night from the seventies. Yeah, okay.

1266
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: She's got a real strong voice, very strong.

1267
01:06:18,119 --> 01:06:21,079
Speaker 2: But she she's like, you know, when I looked at it,

1268
01:06:21,199 --> 01:06:24,360
there was three riders on the song. To me, that's

1269
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,639
a giant red flag. She's like, I almost just said

1270
01:06:27,719 --> 01:06:30,519
no way, but she said she started warming to the

1271
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:33,440
idea as long as Bill Medley was seeing with her,

1272
01:06:33,679 --> 01:06:36,960
And so Jimmy kept calling him saying did you have

1273
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,639
the baby yet? Did she have the baby yet? Did

1274
01:06:39,639 --> 01:06:41,360
she have the baby yet? He's like, you have to

1275
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,440
do this. You're the voice of the sixties. You have

1276
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:48,360
got to do this. And when they finally changed the

1277
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,400
recording venue from New York to La, where Medley lived,

1278
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,039
Baby was born. We're coming to La. You gotta do this.

1279
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,519
Jennifer says she'll do it if you do it. He

1280
01:06:57,599 --> 01:07:01,239
finally caved. So this is the bit the Blue Meat Way. Yeah,

1281
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:02,960
and I never knew this. I've heard this song a

1282
01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:06,559
thousand times in my life. Okay. Bill Medley and Jennifer

1283
01:07:06,599 --> 01:07:11,119
Warrens are supposed to be the older versions of Johnny

1284
01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:14,599
Castle and Baby singing to each other. That's great about

1285
01:07:14,599 --> 01:07:15,480
the events in the movie.

1286
01:07:15,639 --> 01:07:18,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, So little history on Bill Medley. Okay, we all

1287
01:07:18,599 --> 01:07:21,280
know him from The Righteous Brothers, right yep. But the

1288
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,519
Righteous Brothers didn't have a whole lot of success initially, Okay,

1289
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,599
he had been in a couple of other groups. He

1290
01:07:27,679 --> 01:07:30,400
ended up forming The Righteous Brothers with Bobby Hatfield by

1291
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,639
mid sixties hadn't had a whole lot of success. But

1292
01:07:33,719 --> 01:07:36,559
in nineteen sixty four they appeared in a show with

1293
01:07:36,639 --> 01:07:40,119
some other groups at the Cow Palace in San Francisco.

1294
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,360
The Cow Palace, The Cow Palace. Okay, there was a

1295
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,440
conductor for the band for the entire show who is

1296
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,920
impressed by them and said, I would like to record

1297
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,320
you on my own record label. You know who the

1298
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:59,840
conductor was, David Page is dead, Phil Spector, Phil Spector.

1299
01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:04,039
So in sixty five with Phil Spector they have their

1300
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,119
first number one hit with You've Lost That Love and Feeling,

1301
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,840
which was produced by Phil Spector, and then later on

1302
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,199
they had another major hit with Unchained Melody, which then

1303
01:08:14,239 --> 01:08:17,720
showed up later in Ghosts the eighties with Ghosts and

1304
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:18,600
Patrick Swayzy.

1305
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,560
Speaker 2: Yes. Wow, I didn't even think about that, having a

1306
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,319
Patrick Swayzey connection. Yeah.

1307
01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:26,079
Speaker 1: I mentioned at the outset we're going to talk about

1308
01:08:26,079 --> 01:08:28,520
two murders, and so far we've only talked about one.

1309
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 2: Okay, you ready. Yes.

1310
01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:33,199
Speaker 1: Bill Medley met his first wife, Karen O'Grady in church.

1311
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,399
They started dating in nineteen sixty three and they were

1312
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,720
married at the beginning of his music career. They had

1313
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,119
a son named Darren in nineteen sixty five, but ultimately

1314
01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:46,840
they got divorced when he was about five. Okay, fast

1315
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:51,439
forward to nineteen seventy six. His first wife, Karen had remarried.

1316
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,000
At that point, her name was Karen Class. She was

1317
01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:58,439
raped and murdered by a stranger, and in seventy six,

1318
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:03,000
because of this, Medley stopped performing music to take care

1319
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:05,920
of their ten year old son, Darren. The murder had

1320
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:09,720
not been solved, and Medley employed a private investigator to

1321
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,760
try to track down the killer. On January twenty seventh,

1322
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:18,039
twenty seventeen, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department announced that

1323
01:09:18,119 --> 01:09:22,640
investigators used a controversial DNA testing method to solve the

1324
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,600
murder that was at this point thirty years old. Forty

1325
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,399
years old. Set, we're talking seventy six to twenty seventeen,

1326
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:30,600
forty one years later.

1327
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:31,079
Speaker 2: Whoa.

1328
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,239
Speaker 1: They said that the case was solved through the use

1329
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:38,920
of familial DNA, which identified the killer named Kenneth Troyer,

1330
01:09:39,039 --> 01:09:42,079
a sex offender and fugitive killed by the police in

1331
01:09:42,199 --> 01:09:43,079
nineteen eighty two.

1332
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, dude, that's incredible. I don't know where

1333
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,680
you came up with that. That's great now, Yeah, a

1334
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,279
little lighter note, okay.

1335
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:57,399
Speaker 1: Jennifer warrens. Yes, she had smiled success as a solo artist, right,

1336
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,159
uh huh. She seems to do pretty well when she

1337
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:03,479
does duets. In sixty eight, after a few years in

1338
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,600
musical theater and clubs, she joined the cast of a

1339
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,239
television show called The Smothers. Brother's Comedy Hour.

1340
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,039
Speaker 2: Ha ha. We've talked about that.

1341
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 1: Yes, in our Toto episode, which would later be hosted

1342
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,960
by Glenn Campbell Marity Page. Yes, it's all first full circle.

1343
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,000
But this is the tidbit that I love. Nineteen eighty five,

1344
01:10:22,199 --> 01:10:23,399
she recorded a duet.

1345
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 2: She's great with.

1346
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: These duets in the eighties. Huh with bj Thomas. Okay,

1347
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,520
the song is as long as We've Got each Other.

1348
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,920
Do you recognize the title? Yeah, okay, let me play

1349
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:35,319
it for you.

1350
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:46,199
Speaker 2: It's Bailey Ties, It's family freaking Ties. It's growing Pains.

1351
01:10:46,279 --> 01:10:52,199
It's growing pains. It's growing pains. There you go. Oh,

1352
01:10:52,359 --> 01:10:55,159
that's awesome. Way to go. She had a lot of

1353
01:10:55,199 --> 01:10:56,840
success with eighties duets.

1354
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: We've got the growing pains theme, we've got already dancing

1355
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,399
and the best song off of the album. And we

1356
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,119
have Joe Cocker from Officer and a Gentleman and lift

1357
01:11:08,159 --> 01:11:09,479
us Up where we belong.

1358
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,159
Speaker 2: Man. Those are a big time huge. Those are a

1359
01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:15,439
big time huge. Speaking of duets, I mentioned that the

1360
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,279
album came out a month before the movie. Okay, yep,

1361
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,319
and they dropped the song I've Had the Time of

1362
01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:24,159
my Life a week or so before the scheduled released

1363
01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:26,880
of the movie. Well, the movie was delayed by about

1364
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,600
a month, and so Time of My Life is out

1365
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,159
there just kind of hanging unboosted by the movie, right,

1366
01:11:33,399 --> 01:11:35,800
and it's kind of floundering. It's not really doing anything

1367
01:11:36,039 --> 01:11:38,159
like it hit the charts. But then it's starting to

1368
01:11:38,239 --> 01:11:41,039
drop and nothing really happening, and kind of landed with

1369
01:11:41,039 --> 01:11:45,359
a dud, right, which blows me away until a month

1370
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,680
later when the movie came out. Bill Bedley said he

1371
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,439
was actually at the release party of the movie and

1372
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,960
they were already already talking about this second single to

1373
01:11:53,039 --> 01:11:55,119
drop and he's like, I haven't even given this a

1374
01:11:55,239 --> 01:11:59,800
chance yet, guys, yeah, okay, But so it almost fell

1375
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,159
off the charts. So once the movie was released, though,

1376
01:12:03,239 --> 01:12:05,800
the song of course took off. And he had just

1377
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:10,600
done a duet with Gladys Knight for the movie Cobra. Yeah,

1378
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:16,640
and that song was called Loving Unborrowed Times Game.

1379
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 3: In the scene, I mean, and so he's on the

1380
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,560
road with the White's brothers and the DJ said, hey, man,

1381
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,399
they're playing the hell out of your song right now,

1382
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,439
and he's like, which one.

1383
01:12:43,279 --> 01:12:46,199
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? And the guy said, the

1384
01:12:46,359 --> 01:12:51,520
song with that girl, right and he's like, the song

1385
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:55,000
with that girl. Are you talking about Gladys Knight? He said,

1386
01:12:55,039 --> 01:12:57,119
I don't know, man, And so he said. By the

1387
01:12:57,159 --> 01:12:59,039
time they got off the road, about two weeks later,

1388
01:12:59,159 --> 01:13:01,640
they were the number one song all over the blow.

1389
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,000
He had no idea what was happening while he's unchore.

1390
01:13:05,119 --> 01:13:05,840
It's fantastic.

1391
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,520
Speaker 1: So with this song, they not only hit number one

1392
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,399
on the Billboard Hot one hundred, they spent four weeks

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at number one on the Adult Contemporary chart.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: They win the Oscar for Best Original Song. That's the

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third one, by the way, for Jennifer Warrens. They win

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the Golden Globe same category. Yep, and they win the Grammy.

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Listen to this when they re released the movie for

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television audiences in January of nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the song charted again. It's a great song. It's

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a great song.

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Speaker 8: And no, and like I said before, if you don't

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get a little bit misty when he does the lift,

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there's something wrong with you.

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Speaker 2: You need to examine your heart. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so sorry, we tricked you everybody. We took the

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first song and we put it last. But how do

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you not have that song as the finale and you

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got to Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this is still showing up in the

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movie Crazy Stupid Love with Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone. Yeah,

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they do the lyft to the song. Yes. And then

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in twenty eighteen, during the Super Bowl, the NFL ran

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a spot where Eli Manning and Odell Beckham Junior do

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the lift.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it, Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm ready, I'm gonna catch you. Come on one. Two. Yes. Oh,

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I knew we could do it. What a final song.

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It's so important to the movie, and it really is

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the heart of the movie. It's a joyful song. I

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feel like dancing, I feel like doing the lift. It

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makes me feel great.

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