Speaker 1: Welcome to Wrestle Magic, part of the ww podcast. I
Speaker 1: am your host, King Scunny and I'm representing the UK
Speaker 1: all day. It's WrestleMania Season baby. But first of all,
Speaker 1: we have my favorite paper view, The Royal Rumble, to
Speaker 1: talk about the lead up Tamania. The Royal Rumble began
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty eight and was created by wrestling legend
Speaker 1: Pat Patterson. Over the years, We've had plenty of winners,
Speaker 1: plenty of surprises, plenty of good field moments, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to discuss them with two of my Wrestle Magic teammates,
Speaker 1: the gardener Michael Gross and maintainance math Maverick. How are
Speaker 1: we both doing.
Speaker 2: Now? I'm doing fantastic. I'm glad that you wanted to
Speaker 2: produce a show and do something with us today. And
Speaker 2: you know, just looking at Royal Rumble season, that's one
Speaker 2: of my favorites too, And we're going to get into
Speaker 2: the first Royal Rumble I saw or head seenne excuse me,
Speaker 2: and just look at like going forward, what the Royal
Speaker 2: Rumble means and how it has helped and hindered the business. Now,
Speaker 2: with that being said, how is my nephew oh.
Speaker 3: Man I'm doing pretty good.
Speaker 4: God, I've been really busy lately, but you know what,
Speaker 4: still making time for this And honestly, I'm really happy
Speaker 4: to have Scully back on this show.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you were able to come.
Speaker 4: Up with an episode for us today, and I'm really
Speaker 4: happy just to be.
Speaker 2: Back on here.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: I missed hanging out and talking with you. Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely been a while. So let's discuss what
Speaker 1: the Rumble means to you, to us. So, the Royal
Speaker 1: Rumble itself is my favorite match. I love the surprise entrance,
Speaker 1: the returns, there is us always a legend in there somewhere,
Speaker 1: and I just enjoy the unpredictability that is the Royal Rumble.
Speaker 1: What about you, mav Well, to me, the.
Speaker 4: Royal Rumble is setting the stage for Mania. It is
Speaker 4: all right, what's going to be the end of the
Speaker 4: kind of want to call it almost like the the
Speaker 4: finals of the year leading up to the biggest event
Speaker 4: of them all.
Speaker 2: But also it is a nice way.
Speaker 4: For anybody to debut for the company at that point.
Speaker 4: It is a nice way for anybody to be able
Speaker 4: to just step in or honestly be able to have
Speaker 4: a shot at the top very quickly, just through winning
Speaker 4: that match or just entering that match. I mean, many
Speaker 4: people have made their debut through the Royal Rumble. So
Speaker 4: from there, Gardner, your expertise, what do.
Speaker 2: You I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off,
Speaker 2: my friend. So you said that Pat Patterson created it.
Speaker 2: Now a lot of people don't know that Pat Patterson
Speaker 2: created it to be on free TV. It was on
Speaker 2: the USA Network a long long time ago. In the
Speaker 2: very first episode I watched it, I was actually being
Speaker 2: watched by Maverick's mother, and I was in my early teens.
Speaker 2: But I shouldn't have been watched actually, but it was
Speaker 2: one of those deals where my parents they really didn't
Speaker 2: trust me, and I guess they had a reason why.
Speaker 2: And so I had a little black and white television
Speaker 2: in my bedroom, a little box TV. It was about
Speaker 2: the size of a two by two box, you know,
Speaker 2: one of those little things that you'd use for a
Speaker 2: cheap file cabinet or something like that. So I was
Speaker 2: watching it and pretending I was sick. Because Maverick's grandfather,
Speaker 2: my father, would not allow me to watch wrestling. He
Speaker 2: hated wrestling. Now he embraces it because he knows he
Speaker 2: can't beat it, you join it, and he did that
Speaker 2: a long time ago, but I wasn't supposed to watch it,
Speaker 2: and Maverick's mother and I didn't get along that well
Speaker 2: at the time, so every time she would come up
Speaker 2: the stairs or something like that towards my room, I
Speaker 2: turned it off real quick. And of course, if you
Speaker 2: know those old knob doush dosh doush TVs and their
Speaker 2: little contrast buttons in a black and white, it was
Speaker 2: very interesting. So what the Rumble means to me is,
Speaker 2: at first it was not the road to wrestle me.
Speaker 2: It was created as a distraction, as can we do this?
Speaker 2: Can we can we do a free review? And that
Speaker 2: kind of ties into our last show when we did
Speaker 2: The Kings of Coliseum, like free for reviews and things
Speaker 2: like that. So it served its own purpose, but it
Speaker 2: became something bigger and bigger and bigger, and then they
Speaker 2: started adding stipulations to it, and we're gonna get into
Speaker 2: that too as far as how I feel about the stipulations,
Speaker 2: but I will say it's one of my favorite matches.
Speaker 2: I do love the returns. I don't like every return
Speaker 2: I don't like the silly returns. I don't like it
Speaker 2: when they put what was it wasn't wasn't Drew carry
Speaker 2: in one? You know, it wasn't Pete Rose was in one?
Speaker 2: I think and like some of that stuff. It's like,
Speaker 2: these people are never gonna hold world championships. You know.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this past year when they had USO
Speaker 2: versus ZUSO, that was a callback to what was it
Speaker 2: maybe two or three when they had Demolition take on
Speaker 2: each other. It was amazing. I love the callback because
Speaker 2: enough people had forgotten about it, and I can give
Speaker 2: forgiveness when it's been my lifetime versus yours, math or
Speaker 2: yours Scully and say, you know, people don't remember about this,
Speaker 2: so we can revisit it. It's how do we revisit
Speaker 2: it now? They're not doing the same storyline. In fact,
Speaker 2: there was no storyline with Demolition. It was just they
Speaker 2: came out and they were the only people left in
Speaker 2: the ring, so they had to get They went into it.
Speaker 2: It was great because nobody really believed they would do it.
Speaker 2: It was really cool. So the roy rumble to me means,
Speaker 2: you know, surprises fun of course, the beginning of the
Speaker 2: road to WrestleMania. I don't want to see people point
Speaker 2: the sign anymore. But we'll get into that later. So
Speaker 2: going in, Scully, this is your show today, this is
Speaker 2: Rumble Magic, So tell me what do you want to
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 1: Don't go Cody Roads on me.
Speaker 2: Come on, Well, you know you already have like ideas
Speaker 2: of things that you want to speak about, so let's
Speaker 2: speak about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay. So yeah, so we've all said how much
Speaker 1: we loved to Row Rumble here in the UK. For example,
Speaker 1: if I was to watch the row Rumble like any
Speaker 1: paper few, I'd have to watch out one am in
Speaker 1: the morning. And there was times I did do that.
Speaker 1: I did stay up till like one am and it
Speaker 1: would have finished till five am, and obviously you wouldn't
Speaker 1: get much sleeper, especially if you had school, because it
Speaker 1: would be on like a Sunday night or whatever, which
Speaker 1: is crazy. And I remember because most of the time
Speaker 1: it used to be on Sky and all that. But
Speaker 1: I remember one particular rumbled rol Lumber two thousand, the
Speaker 1: one when the rock one when he went over the
Speaker 1: ropes with the Big show that was actually aired on
Speaker 1: a TV channel, normal terrestural TV channel called Channel four,
Speaker 1: and I remember it had like advert in between and
Speaker 1: it was a bit odd, but they did a few
Speaker 1: pay per views like that, but I specifically remember that
Speaker 1: one being on the TV. All the others Royal Rumbles
Speaker 1: that I've watched, like when I was young kid would
Speaker 1: have been on VHS. You would remember VHS, Michael, I
Speaker 1: doubt you would have. It takes about ten hours to rewind.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I remember having quite a lot of w
Speaker 1: W pay per fews, Wrestling ECW, and even w CW
Speaker 1: on VHS videos and I did have a lot of
Speaker 1: the Royal Umble events on there. My favorite one, which
Speaker 1: we'll discuss later, I also had on VHS. So the
Speaker 1: first thing I wanted to like do is the funniest
Speaker 1: moment in the Royal Yeah, this could be anything. This
Speaker 1: could be like I don't know, I could think of
Speaker 1: a load in my head, but it just depends what
Speaker 1: you found funny and what you think was the funniest. Really,
Speaker 1: So which, Michael, I let you go first, Which was
Speaker 1: the funniest moment in roy history? To you?
Speaker 2: All right, So it's gonna whip around back to you.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna tell you, of course it's world tightest
Speaker 2: slide because that was the greatest Royal reval, which was
Speaker 2: the word Royal Rumble ever, which made no sense. I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously they did it for Saudi pay Day. We get it,
Speaker 2: we understand, okay, but brass tacks and baseball bats.
Speaker 5: That was hilarious when he just goes running and you
Speaker 5: would think it was a purposeful dive, but I looked
Speaker 5: back at it, his foot did get caught on something,
Speaker 5: he got snagged and he went right under there.
Speaker 2: And then the fact that he tried to crawl right
Speaker 2: back under the ring to hide the shame for a second.
Speaker 2: It's hilarious, but honestly, like Titus has done a lot
Speaker 2: for the business as far as being an ambassador, and
Speaker 2: I guess maybe he's on a Legends contractor or ambassador contract.
Speaker 2: Obviously his his in ring days are probably over. Maybe
Speaker 2: he'll show up at the Royal Rumble and we could
Speaker 2: re see the slide. But that was That was one
Speaker 2: of my funniest moments. And then my next was one
Speaker 2: I predicted when I first got back, I took like
Speaker 2: ten years off of wrestling, not maybe not ten, but
Speaker 2: maybe like six or seven. And my friend Sean Boyce
Speaker 2: got me back into wrestling and back when I was
Speaker 2: running the absent room on Beale Street and Mph Tennessee
Speaker 2: when we would watch wrestling upstairs during dead times when
Speaker 2: I should have been actually working as the guy running
Speaker 2: the place. But what it came down to was we're
Speaker 2: just watching like funny stuff. And we brought his PlayStation
Speaker 2: up so we could connect it to the internet so
Speaker 2: we could watch a rumble. And when Nick Foley went in,
Speaker 2: I said, you know what's next? He's like what. I
Speaker 2: was like Santino. I said, they're gonna do snock sock
Speaker 2: versus snake and he's like no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: And then Santino came in and then they did that
Speaker 2: stare off where they put on the sock versus the snake,
Speaker 2: and Sean was just like, how do you know this?
Speaker 2: I was like, I just know this. I just know this.
Speaker 2: I said, They've been building up to it. That's why
Speaker 2: he's been putting a sock on his hand. That's the reason.
Speaker 2: But so I love that moment. So, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: not the funniest moment, but I loved it because I
Speaker 2: kind of predicted it, and Chums just like, yeah, you
Speaker 2: got me on that one. So all right, mister mav all.
Speaker 3: Right, so funniest moments to me.
Speaker 4: So the first time that I had ever seen.
Speaker 2: Hurricane Helms was in a Royal Rumble match.
Speaker 4: Now, it wasn't the day that it happened, because I'll
Speaker 4: be honest with you guys grew up kind of in
Speaker 4: a poor family. We weren't able to afford pay per view,
Speaker 4: so it was a long time after. But I remember
Speaker 4: I was watching like one of those collection kind of
Speaker 4: DVDs it had, I believe it was one of the
Speaker 4: Triple h Ones that came out sometime in the two thousands,
Speaker 4: and I remember it was showing I believe it was
Speaker 4: the two thousand and two Royal Rumble. Now, during that match,
Speaker 4: there's for a while where it's basically just Steve Austin
Speaker 4: and Triple Hs just going at each other for a while,
Speaker 4: and eventually it's just them both alone in the ring,
Speaker 4: and then here comes Hurricane Helms. They're not paying any
Speaker 4: attention to them. All of a sudden, they both kind
Speaker 4: of close the eyes. So they both go down and
Speaker 4: Helms runs in the ring and looks around like he
Speaker 4: did something great, and the announcers even acknowledge it, like
Speaker 4: does he think that his powers knocked them over or something.
Speaker 2: They both get up.
Speaker 4: He puts both hands on one on each of their
Speaker 4: throats like he's gonna choke slam the both of them,
Speaker 4: and they both just kind of give him this weird
Speaker 4: look and they both just throw them out the ring.
Speaker 4: And I still will just never forget seeing that. And
Speaker 4: that was the first time I ever got to see
Speaker 4: Hurricane Hilms. Was like, Wow, that superhero really didn't make
Speaker 4: it very far. And I was maybe eight or ten
Speaker 4: years old at the time, but I just laughed about it.
Speaker 4: And then the other funny moment that I think about, honestly,
Speaker 4: it's kind of something that went on throughout the whole match.
Speaker 4: Just the fact that Mick Foley came out three times
Speaker 4: as different personas to me, that's just I mean, it's
Speaker 4: great character work, and I.
Speaker 2: Absolutely love it.
Speaker 4: I do still find it funny, though I can't resist
Speaker 4: but say that is my other funny moment for you guys,
Speaker 4: for Royal Rombles. I think that was what nineteen ninety
Speaker 4: eight when that one.
Speaker 2: Happens, probably pretty close, you know. I know that Three
Speaker 2: Faces of Folly. That was another one that we kind
Speaker 2: of saw coming Tony Capo when I saw that one coming.
Speaker 2: He's a comic bookshop owner that MAV and I know.
Speaker 2: But something I was gonna interject with is that you
Speaker 2: know that the hurricane tried to use that clothesline all
Speaker 2: the time, all the time. Yes, And then he started
Speaker 2: tagging with Kane and he actually used it, and I
Speaker 2: think he took down Christian and they won the tag
Speaker 2: titles with it. It's been a long time, it's been
Speaker 2: over twenty years, but I believe if we ressess my brain,
Speaker 2: that's that's the truth. But all right, so those are yours,
Speaker 2: So King Scully, come on, King, talk to us, tell
Speaker 2: us about you.
Speaker 1: Well, for me, you've already mentioned him Michael Santina Morella,
Speaker 1: but in a different scenario. So Santina has the fastest
Speaker 1: elimination and I don't know if you remember it, but
Speaker 1: he lasted exactly one point nine seconds, and he literally
Speaker 1: his music hit. He storms to the ring with his
Speaker 1: funny run that he used to do. He runs in
Speaker 1: the ring and then Kane close lines him out. And
Speaker 1: the funniest bit for me is when he's good, I
Speaker 1: wasn't ready. I wasn't ready, and I just I just
Speaker 1: found that really funny. And another kind of scenario. The
Speaker 1: same sort of thing was probably rollun Ball in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine when Gilbert comes out. I just love Gilbert
Speaker 1: because I think he's hilarious. I think, what a class
Speaker 1: He's just funny. And he comes out and he's doing
Speaker 1: all and he's posing and getting scared of the piros
Speaker 1: and sticking his tongue out like Tasmania, and then Edge
Speaker 1: Drop kicks him out and he literally on He didn't
Speaker 1: even do anything. She just stood there and got drop
Speaker 1: kicked out. You aren't even looking, And I just found
Speaker 1: that funny as well.
Speaker 2: Fair enough man, very nice. Did you know that one
Speaker 2: of the shortest UH eliminations was actually the Warlord And
Speaker 2: if you look at the size of that guy, you'd
Speaker 2: be like, how did they eliminate him? But I think
Speaker 2: it was a twenty second elimination. And then they had
Speaker 2: another one when one of the bushwhackers, I think it
Speaker 2: was Luke, came in doing the bushwhacker stomp, got in
Speaker 2: the ring so and grabbed him by the back of
Speaker 2: the hair and threw him right out the end of
Speaker 2: the ring and he did the bushwhacker stomp all the
Speaker 2: way back to the tres.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember that one, true.
Speaker 2: True story, true story. Okay, so the.
Speaker 1: Next four seconds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think war Lord was twenty seconds or something
Speaker 2: like that, and.
Speaker 1: He pite four seconds, was it?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And that was that was in nineteen eighty nine Wimble,
Speaker 1: which I'll be honest that I haven't watched that one,
Speaker 1: that storm with Big John Studwin, wasn't it If.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't think it was, No, not
Speaker 2: ninety four study, Yeah, yeah, eighty nine. But yeah, Warlord,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you guys aren't familiar with the Warlord,
Speaker 2: he was part of a tag team with the Barbarian
Speaker 2: They were called the Powers of Pain. And Warlord is
Speaker 2: seriously like six four six five and probably three hundred
Speaker 2: something pounds even still today, and he's older than me
Speaker 2: by at least fifteen years, maybe ten years whatever. But
Speaker 2: the guy was just ginormous. He broke into the industry
Speaker 2: because the Road Warriors loved working out with him back
Speaker 2: in Minnesota, and he became part of Eddie Sharky's crew.
Speaker 2: Out of all the people who came out of Eddie
Speaker 2: Sharky's you know, dungeons stuff like that, he was one
Speaker 2: of the guys who worked with them at Grahama b's
Speaker 2: and the guy's ginormous, So for him to go out
Speaker 2: that way either, you know, now that you mentioned it,
Speaker 2: I think he did kind of disappear after this, so
Speaker 2: maybe he was just on the end of his contract
Speaker 2: or on the end of just liking working there, so
Speaker 2: that was it for him. But that one really shocked me,
Speaker 2: Like the Bushbacker thing didn't shock me. Now if you
Speaker 2: went back to when they're spher's whole different story. But
Speaker 2: I digress. What is our next topic, my friend?
Speaker 1: So the next one is so you can do this
Speaker 1: two ways. It could be like, so it's I want
Speaker 1: you to choose two of the greatest appearances in the
Speaker 1: vol win boo. So it could be like someone who
Speaker 1: never been in a w WF whatever, Or it could
Speaker 1: be someone who's returned from an injury that you didn't
Speaker 1: expect to be the yea or yeah, it could be
Speaker 1: anything like that. So we'll go with my first If
Speaker 1: that's sorry.
Speaker 4: Awesome, So this is just favorite appearances. Could be surprise
Speaker 4: entrance sort of thing. Yeah, okay, so my favorite surprise entrant.
Speaker 4: I am going to say AJ styles debut. Honestly, I
Speaker 4: was a fan of AJ Styles through many years as
Speaker 4: his TNA tenure was going on, and something that actually
Speaker 4: found out recently before he was ever in TNA. Guys,
Speaker 4: he was in WCW towards the end of their run.
Speaker 4: When WW network was still up in the UK.
Speaker 3: Towards the end of last year.
Speaker 4: I was still trying to watch through trying to find
Speaker 4: anything that I could find that I was interested in,
Speaker 4: and I started watching some of the last few episodes
Speaker 4: of WCW's Nitro and Thunder, and he was, I believe,
Speaker 4: on the last episode of Thunder that was recorded.
Speaker 2: He was in a tag team called Air Raid I
Speaker 2: want to say Air Paris Styles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: He was around for a much longer than we thought,
Speaker 4: and finally seeing him in WW was like, it took
Speaker 4: you this long to get here, but man, I am
Speaker 4: so glad I got to see it. But yeah, So
Speaker 4: that's the one that I would say is my favorite
Speaker 4: surprise entrant. I think that being including returns. The other
Speaker 4: one I would say would be Edge coming back after
Speaker 4: all those years and everybody just thought he was absolutely done,
Speaker 4: completely retired, But you know what, he had his surgery
Speaker 4: and he was finally able to come back in what
Speaker 4: was it, twenty twenty one I want to say maybe
Speaker 4: twenty two. I can't remember exactly the years, but didn't
Speaker 4: Edge come back?
Speaker 2: What was it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a few years ago.
Speaker 4: Now, but yeah, Edge, I would say would be my
Speaker 4: second top. But yeah, AJ Styles definitely be my favorite.
Speaker 4: What about you, Scully?
Speaker 1: So I've actually got the same AJ Styles twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: word rumble. I loved him in TNA. I thought he
Speaker 1: was probably one of my favorites in TNA. And then
Speaker 1: when he came because the great thing about it is
Speaker 1: no one knew his music today. He didn't have the
Speaker 1: music from TNA, and when the music hit, it was like,
Speaker 1: who now's this? And then it come on the Titan tron.
Speaker 1: I am phenomenal. And then a lot of us, if
Speaker 1: we know who AJ stars is with the gathered who
Speaker 1: it was. And then I think Romanmains look confused because
Speaker 1: he remember his face looked like I don't know, he's
Speaker 1: seen a ghost or something. And then yeah, then he
Speaker 1: came down to the ring and it was just brilliant.
Speaker 1: And then the other one from me was you actually
Speaker 1: mentioned it on one of your others, mav is the
Speaker 1: Mick Foley in nineteen ninety eight, because yeah, not so
Speaker 1: much that it was a surprise or a shark, but
Speaker 1: I just thought it was the audacity to come out
Speaker 1: as your free faces, coming out as captains Jack number one,
Speaker 1: then number sixteen he came out as Mankind, and then
Speaker 1: twenty eight he come out as do Love and I
Speaker 1: just for it. It's great. I mean, he had three
Speaker 1: chances to win, and he's still but that he couldn't
Speaker 1: win the thing.
Speaker 2: But I remember that now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and yeah that's about you, Michael.
Speaker 2: We literally like we all have AJ styles on this
Speaker 2: list because we never thought we would actually see him
Speaker 2: in the ring, and then like when it got closer
Speaker 2: and closer, everybody really speculated, Okay, it's it's not going
Speaker 2: to happen. It's been leaked on purpose. This is BS
Speaker 2: whatever I mean, so AJ once again. I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: you know my history with T and a Mad but
Speaker 2: I remember watching him as part of you know, you know,
Speaker 2: the he and tagging with air Paris his air styles.
Speaker 2: When I first saw him in TNA, I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know where this guy's gonna go. And then
Speaker 2: I when I started watching wrestle older bets like Jeff
Speaker 2: Jarrett and things like that, I was like this guy's
Speaker 2: got some talent and then it took so long, like
Speaker 2: you said, so that that's an amazing an amazing debut
Speaker 2: or surprise to come out at the Royal Rumble, you know,
Speaker 2: looking back, one of my favorites and so stupid. But
Speaker 2: it's probably around like twenty eleven, twenty twelve. I'm a
Speaker 2: huge Booker T fan. And when they were bringing everybody
Speaker 2: into the ring, when they got ridiculous when he got
Speaker 2: up from the commentary booth and he just had a
Speaker 2: dress shirt on but his brief saw I was like,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's also a comedic point, but I love
Speaker 2: Booker T that much. Like I'm just such a fan
Speaker 2: of Booker T. And I was like, I wish you wouldn't,
Speaker 2: but I know that you're already you know, gone on
Speaker 2: to commentary. But that was that was like one of
Speaker 2: my favorite because I didn't see I didn't see him
Speaker 2: getting up to go into into into the the match,
Speaker 2: so I was like, Okay, this is cool. So that's
Speaker 2: something I really enjoyed. I gotta say that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember Jerry Lawler did that as well, like
Speaker 1: I think it's ninety seven and yes that Art punched
Speaker 1: him out straight away and Jay I was literally laughing
Speaker 1: at him. It was brilliant.
Speaker 2: And that was that was That was a fun rumble.
Speaker 2: I think that was the same one, as as as
Speaker 2: Nick Foley and and uh, you know what's his name?
Speaker 2: The goofball. But I mean, honestly, like at this point,
Speaker 2: I love a surprise. I love a really good surprise.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're going to get any but
Speaker 2: you know, let's keep rolling.
Speaker 1: Okay, So the next one I got is most shocking elimination,
Speaker 1: so we can just have one for this. So an eliminations,
Speaker 1: there's someone who's maybe like I don't know, Booklem Boiler.
Speaker 1: I doubt he eliminated anyone, but he could have eliminated
Speaker 1: but let's know which would be brilliant because it'd be hilarious.
Speaker 1: But yeah, any anythin like that? So do you have
Speaker 1: someone for that math?
Speaker 4: Okay, So thinking back on surprising eliminations, there's a couple
Speaker 4: that do come to mind, but I'm gonna save one
Speaker 4: specifically for later because my absolute favorite that I've ever seen,
Speaker 4: and I believe it was the end of the match
Speaker 4: as well, so I'll save that. But my favorite one
Speaker 4: that I would say would be I remember seeing Caine
Speaker 4: eliminating Big Show. But the way he did it was
Speaker 4: he literally just picked him up and then just walked
Speaker 4: him out of the ring over the top rope and
Speaker 4: dropped him.
Speaker 2: And to me, I was like, I don't.
Speaker 4: Know how much Big Show actually weighs, but you just
Speaker 4: scooped him up and walked him out of the ring.
Speaker 4: That's I don't know what kind of steroids he was
Speaker 4: on at that point, if he ever was not actually
Speaker 4: saying he was or anything, but holy crap, how were
Speaker 4: you able to handle that? But yeah, that would be
Speaker 4: my favorite one.
Speaker 3: What about you Gardner?
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, that's.
Speaker 2: That's a really good question. But I would say probably. Uh.
Speaker 2: When Karma came in and just used her karma, so
Speaker 2: to speak, on everybody in the ring and Michael Cole
Speaker 2: like eliminated himself so to speak, it wasn't shocking. It
Speaker 2: was just like, this is the second time that the
Speaker 2: female has been in the Royal rumbo. I believe it
Speaker 2: was China one, Karma two, and then what's your name?
Speaker 2: Uh Nijack? Yeah, Nijack's number.
Speaker 1: Two, Phoenix being one as well.
Speaker 2: Was that Phoenix in there too? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I remember her kissing Carly and then eliminating.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah the romance, yeah yeah, but anyway, and
Speaker 2: so so that was that was kind of one because
Speaker 2: I was like everybody who was in the ring seemed
Speaker 2: to be like scared of her and got out of
Speaker 2: the ring really fast, and so it was it was
Speaker 2: you can play with it a little bit here and there,
Speaker 2: but I didn't really believe that they were actually going
Speaker 2: to put another woman into the Royal Rumble as fast
Speaker 2: as they did after you know, everything else. So I
Speaker 2: just want to say that that I think is probably
Speaker 2: like my most okay, what the heck?
Speaker 1: Yeah? For me, it was when Maven eliminated the Undertaker
Speaker 1: and with a drop kick. I think that was like
Speaker 1: two thousand and two I think, And yeah, he Undertake
Speaker 1: was the American badass then Ernie and drove his motorbikee
Speaker 1: down the ring or whatever, and yeah, he eliminated him
Speaker 1: with a single drop kick, And I thought that was hilarious.
Speaker 2: And did you know whose idea that when an undertaker
Speaker 2: beat him mercilessly like on every show that they were on,
Speaker 2: I mean he drags him like up the stairs, through
Speaker 2: the crowd and then eventually like pushed his head through
Speaker 2: a popcorn machine and then as like Maven's laying there
Speaker 2: his face is bleeding, Undertaker reaches into the popcorn machine,
Speaker 2: grabs a handful, just starts eating it over him while
Speaker 2: the fans are like going nuts around them. You know that.
Speaker 2: You know that was a call back to the Tupelo, Mississippi,
Speaker 2: you know, the brawl in the stands and uh, I
Speaker 2: mean if Memphis Mark was on here right now, he'd
Speaker 2: be like, Oh, yes, that's that's that's what Let me
Speaker 2: try to do my best Memphis Mark. Oh yeah, that
Speaker 2: was that's what was going on. They do, They did
Speaker 2: the Tulo Mississippi brawl stand and you know, it was
Speaker 2: it was It was a good homage. But anyway, getting
Speaker 2: back to it, you know that was Undertaker's idea. Really,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Maven's put it out on a show. And
Speaker 2: then I've listened to some of the stuff with Chris
Speaker 2: van Fleet, who actually listens to the show apparently because
Speaker 2: he's done shows with Mark but or excuse me, Matt,
Speaker 2: but he's like basically Undertaker has come out and said like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was like kind of his idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to be fair, I have seen a few Mavens
Speaker 1: podcasts and they're quite good.
Speaker 2: Actually, he's not a bad podcaster. He's actually you know,
Speaker 2: like shout out to Maevian Huckman. I mean, you're doing
Speaker 2: your own thing. You're you lived your life, man, you
Speaker 2: did it, you made it in wrestling, you you survived.
Speaker 2: Good for you. Bro.
Speaker 3: A pretty informative guy.
Speaker 1: Honestly.
Speaker 4: I've seen a couple of things from him, like explaining
Speaker 4: how the salaries worked and everything.
Speaker 3: Very good info. Not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: That is a really good episode actually when he shows
Speaker 2: how much he's purported to make and then what he
Speaker 2: actually took home, Like, dude, and I feel for you,
Speaker 2: but I mean we've all been in that situation. We're
Speaker 2: in a money pinch. So all right, so where are
Speaker 2: we right now? Scully?
Speaker 1: So now, so this could be like this would be
Speaker 1: royal rumbles overalls, So it doesn't have to be one
Speaker 1: particular royal rumble. It could be maybe they were in
Speaker 1: a few royal umbles and every time they impressed you.
Speaker 1: So basically it's your most impressive participant put in a lumber.
Speaker 1: So I will give you that. That to go first.
Speaker 1: Michael rick Lair.
Speaker 2: He less like what an hour in there? I mean,
Speaker 2: just insane, But he was used to going an hour,
Speaker 2: but just to have that many different opponents, to adapt
Speaker 2: to that many different styles and everything else that he
Speaker 2: had to do to make that match be pulled off.
Speaker 2: Of course, Ric Flair, I'm always gonna say Ric Flair
Speaker 2: on a lot of stuff. And then the other one's
Speaker 2: the fallen One. So you already know who I'm talking about,
Speaker 2: and that was Chris ben Wah. Because at the end,
Speaker 2: I don't think any even though I was buying it
Speaker 2: and believing it and wanting him to win, I really
Speaker 2: thought they're just gonna put over a big show. There's
Speaker 2: gonna make him look strong again and put over a
Speaker 2: big show. And then when he took out a big show,
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, the push is real. I
Speaker 2: followed you for twenty years. Now I finally get to
Speaker 2: see something. So that's that's basically what I got on that.
Speaker 2: I know it's hard to say the name of the
Speaker 2: Fallen One, but if you look at his n ring,
Speaker 2: it was amazing. If you look what he did in life,
Speaker 2: it was god awful terrible.
Speaker 4: Now, okay, so mine's gonna be a little bit different.
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna keep mind just to one for this,
Speaker 4: but I would say probably the best that I had
Speaker 4: seen and who I was kind of most impressed by
Speaker 4: or who I thought, you know what, I'm expecting him
Speaker 4: to stay in for a long time again, Triple H.
Speaker 3: I feel like two thousand and two he won the Rumble.
Speaker 4: And honestly, he was in there for I want to
Speaker 4: say at least half of it, and him and Stone
Speaker 4: Cold going back and forth for a while. It was
Speaker 4: still fun to watch, very entertaining. And then two thousand
Speaker 4: and six he and Ray Masterio they drew one and two,
Speaker 4: and then I believe Triple H was eliminated at like
Speaker 4: second to last or something like that. Yeah, it was
Speaker 4: second to last eliminated if I remember correctly, and seeing
Speaker 4: how long that he lasted in there, as well as
Speaker 4: what they were doing in the ring, both him and Ray.
Speaker 3: Mysterio, it was very good match honestly for what they
Speaker 3: could do with it. I really enjoyed damage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were going for a long time. That takes
Speaker 4: a lot of endurance to just keep going like that,
Speaker 4: And I give him credit. I'm not the biggest Triple
Speaker 4: H fan, but I tipped my hat to him for
Speaker 4: Royal Rumble specifically, Scully, what about you men.
Speaker 1: So for me, so this is like overall light and
Speaker 1: the most annoying thing about it is he never he
Speaker 1: never won a single World Rumble and it's quite shocking really,
Speaker 1: but he definitely should have won one. And that's Kane.
Speaker 1: I thought every time he come out, he's just amazing.
Speaker 1: It'd eliminate quite a few people or whatever. Half the
Speaker 1: time when he got eliminated, no one actually eliminated him.
Speaker 1: He eliminated himself. So yeah, he really impressed me. I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed his role in the rumble, but like I said,
Speaker 1: it's a shame he didn't win. And the other one
Speaker 1: is probably I really enjoyed brought Lesli in the World Rumble,
Speaker 1: especially in the one where he literally dominated it and
Speaker 1: was when he pretended to like hug shout and Benjamin
Speaker 1: and threw him out and MVP, And I think that's
Speaker 1: the one when Drew mcato when I think twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: I think, but yeah, I like what lets in that one?
Speaker 1: As I thought that was a good rumble ballad?
Speaker 4: All right, So what are we looking at next?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: So this is the one? Now? So this is your
Speaker 1: favorite Royal Rumble match? So which were a rumble for
Speaker 1: you which match is your favorite, which, like, I know mine,
Speaker 1: I've watched it a million times, but we'll go with
Speaker 1: you mad first.
Speaker 4: Okay, So my favorite one is going to be that
Speaker 4: two thousand and six Rumble, the reason being from the
Speaker 4: start it is kind of emotional in the way because
Speaker 4: you see Ray mystereo comes out in the Lowrider. He's
Speaker 4: wearing an Eddie Guerrero T shirt, He's got armbands that
Speaker 4: say eg on it, and even the announcers are acknowledging
Speaker 4: and saying he is paying.
Speaker 3: Homage to Eddie Guerrero at the moment.
Speaker 4: And he's flipping the switches for the hydraulics, He's bouncing
Speaker 4: up and down, he's having a good time, goes into
Speaker 4: the ring, puts on a great performance. Throughout that hour
Speaker 4: long match, just seemed like that was going on, and
Speaker 4: throughout it you kind of just see Ray just doesn't
Speaker 4: want to give up, doesn't want to quit on it.
Speaker 4: And then towards the end you start to see it's
Speaker 4: just him and Orton in the ring, and Orton are
Speaker 4: just duking it out, and then you see Ray somehow
Speaker 4: someway at the very end as Orton's looking to eliminate him.
Speaker 4: Somehow get up and do somewhat of a hurricane rod
Speaker 4: or maybe a head scissor sort of maneuver as he's
Speaker 4: flying over the ropes, just barely catches onto the rope,
Speaker 4: swings himself back in the ring after he just threw
Speaker 4: Orton right over the top, and honestly beautiful moment, and
Speaker 4: I thought nobody else could deserve this.
Speaker 2: Any more than Ray at that moment.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I've always been a fan of Ray, Mysterio
Speaker 4: and Lucado a wrestling, so I really really loved.
Speaker 2: The ends and just that whole match in general. What
Speaker 2: about you, Gardner, Oh well, I got to go with
Speaker 2: the most botched of all time when we have Batista
Speaker 2: and seen it going over at the same time and
Speaker 2: then Vince McMahon comes out and tears his quadrus SEPs.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, there was no higher payoff and
Speaker 2: low pay than that one right there, because it was
Speaker 2: it was completely botched at the end, and I don't
Speaker 2: really think it was watched. I just think that their
Speaker 2: weights because they were so big and such big bricks
Speaker 2: that they just didn't realize what they were doing, and
Speaker 2: just all the aftermath after that. Okay, let's restart the
Speaker 2: match and then Vince is sitting in the ring. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was It's a very historical point in WWE history.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with that one, because if I
Speaker 2: didn't go with that one, I would go with watching
Speaker 2: the black and white on little Box TV in bedroom,
Speaker 2: trying to see Who's gonna win the World Royal Rumble
Speaker 2: on the USA Network for free, you know, many many
Speaker 2: years ago. So because it was it was free for view,
Speaker 2: you know, it was a free pay per view I
Speaker 2: P L E. Whatever you want to call it, but
Speaker 2: it was it was something like I got to watch
Speaker 2: that was premium. So those those like a couple of
Speaker 2: moments that really stand out to me. But I mean
Speaker 2: watching watching McMahon just I mean, he was so angry,
Speaker 2: you could tell he was legitimately angry. And then when
Speaker 2: he hit the ring and for him to keep character
Speaker 2: and not scream, you know, because any one of us
Speaker 2: tears a quad, we're gonna scream and we're gonna be
Speaker 2: holding it. And he didn't do that, So good for
Speaker 2: good on him. I don't like him, but good on him.
Speaker 2: And I'll say it's hilarious how they had to restart
Speaker 2: the match and do a whole new match over again.
Speaker 2: So and it tells you it was scripted right there.
Speaker 2: So there's just a lot of things to it.
Speaker 3: That's why I really like it.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that's your favorite, to be fair, but obviously
Speaker 1: it's up to you. But like I thought, because you
Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier, I thought yours was going to be
Speaker 1: the same as mine, which was the nineteen ninety two
Speaker 1: vavable when Rick Flair went.
Speaker 2: It's a great one. Trust me, it's a great one.
Speaker 2: And it was a one of a kind Royal Rumble,
Speaker 2: and especially for Rick to be so much smaller than
Speaker 2: Hogan and sid and to dump him over the top
Speaker 2: ropes great. It was just great. Like the whole thing
Speaker 2: scripted front to back, was great. But when we talk
Speaker 2: about the Royal Rumble being unpredictable, which is the biggest thing,
Speaker 2: that's my moment because who knew Vincent was going to
Speaker 2: tear his legs up and the wrong person won, yes,
Speaker 2: or at that point the wrong person didn't really win.
Speaker 2: But you know, so what about predictions for this year, guys.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot that I have in predictions.
Speaker 4: So with the TNA merger, there's a lot on the
Speaker 4: table right now. But if I could predict anybody is
Speaker 4: going to be in either rumble, I'm going to say,
Speaker 4: first off, Gail Kim no dice. I think she is
Speaker 4: going to make a return for this one time only
Speaker 4: and obviously she's not going to win it, but I
Speaker 4: think she will be in the women's row rumble. I
Speaker 4: also think that they could pull Tessa Blanchard, but I
Speaker 4: think they are going to pull Jordan Grace for sure,
Speaker 4: because she has left TNA at this point, I think
Speaker 4: this is going to be a perfect opportunity for her
Speaker 4: to debut as a I don't know if they would
Speaker 4: rename her at this point or if they just say, hey,
Speaker 4: it's our newest signing as a WWE talent now Jordan
Speaker 4: Grace is in the rumble or something like that. I
Speaker 4: think this would be the perfect opportunity for her now.
Speaker 2: Also on well, she did get to be Jordan Grace
Speaker 2: at last year's rumble, remember that exactly. So anyway, as
Speaker 2: you were saying, I apologize.
Speaker 4: No, you're all good man, I mean this rather have
Speaker 4: a conversation than just you know, awkwardly list things off.
Speaker 4: But so next thing that I'm going to say, because
Speaker 4: of his popularity over the past year.
Speaker 3: Joe Hendry is definitely going to be in it.
Speaker 4: Overall, I think still not a bad move. I think
Speaker 4: he's still popular right now. I think Ace Austin could
Speaker 4: make another entrant just to be uh adding on with
Speaker 4: the whole TNA merger or partnership, I should say, but
Speaker 4: same winners. This is where he can get kind of tricky.
Speaker 4: Well backtrack for a second. So also, who would they
Speaker 4: announce him as Dolph Ziggler or Nick Namath?
Speaker 3: Which one are they going to say?
Speaker 2: His name is? Oh, that's a good call.
Speaker 1: I would say Dolf Sickler, That's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But he's contracted to TNA, he's got to be
Speaker 2: Nick Namath. Or they could say nickname itth formerly known
Speaker 2: as Dolf Ziggler. That's what they'll do probably, Yeah, that
Speaker 2: makes sense.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so beyond that winners.
Speaker 4: Now, the women's roll rumble, I'm not really sure who
Speaker 4: I am expecting.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a really big surprise
Speaker 2: this time. I am not sure at all.
Speaker 4: For the women's roller rumble, I'm gonna leave that just
Speaker 4: to you guys, I guess. But for the men's I'm
Speaker 4: going to take the long shot here, I'm going to say,
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be seampunk this year. I
Speaker 4: think this time they're finally going to give him the
Speaker 4: main event of Mania, unless they try to really push
Speaker 4: this whole uh rawlins Drew McIntyre and him rivalry still
Speaker 4: at that point, but I think this would be the
Speaker 4: time for them to finally say, you know what, this
Speaker 4: is what you've said you wanted for however long, here's
Speaker 4: the main event.
Speaker 2: Finally have it. Take it.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, that's my predictions, Scully, what do you got
Speaker 4: for us?
Speaker 2: Men?
Speaker 1: So I did see apparently and this could support well
Speaker 1: it's not really a surprise, but it could be like
Speaker 1: a bit of a cringe moment because God knows how
Speaker 1: old he is. But apparently there's going to be an
Speaker 1: appearance of Hacks or Jim Duggan in the Rumble. I
Speaker 1: also seen the possibility of Mick Foley being in the Rumble,
Speaker 1: and there was one more, but I can't think who
Speaker 1: it was. Blair, Yeah, that was the one. Yeah, Rick Flair.
Speaker 1: Now he needs to just hang up his boots. But
Speaker 1: we've been saying that for twenty years.
Speaker 4: But you know, Clair, I'm not sure if Blair will
Speaker 4: actually make it to that. I also saw a report
Speaker 4: that potentially Hogan, I really don't want to see that.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you guys.
Speaker 1: He'd get booed out of the building, wasn't he.
Speaker 4: I mean, what if he comes out as Hollywood Hogan. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that could work, and it's okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: That actually that actually works. A lot comes out as
Speaker 2: Hollywood Hogan playing the air guitar, acting is with them,
Speaker 2: But well, Bischoff's working with MLW. But still I don't
Speaker 2: think he's under any kind of contracts, so he can
Speaker 2: show up anywhere he wants. And he was in the
Speaker 2: next team like a few months ago, so uh, that
Speaker 2: could be a lot of fun. Wow. Wow, you good calls, man,
Speaker 2: really really good calls. Wow, you guys, you made a
Speaker 2: lot of you had a lot of great Royal rumbles.
Speaker 2: Since I loved the way that that we've talked about this,
Speaker 2: I think that it's been like very very great and
Speaker 2: very interactive, very enlightening because a lot of people don't
Speaker 2: know as much about the rumbles if they don't research
Speaker 2: them all, especially if some of our listeners aren't as
Speaker 2: old as we are. And I'm damn near fifty and
Speaker 2: I know, Skully, you're not that far behind me, and
Speaker 2: now I know you're pretty far behind me. But if
Speaker 2: you haven't grown up in our era, you know you
Speaker 2: don't you don't understand all the Royal Rumbles. And it's
Speaker 2: not like I'm talking down to you. I'm just telling
Speaker 2: you straight up like it's it. It became a match
Speaker 2: for fun to see if they could do something, and
Speaker 2: then it became something that became a stipulation and became
Speaker 2: a pay per view or pl whatever you want to
Speaker 2: call it. These days, I still call the pay per
Speaker 2: view because it's not for free and at the end
Speaker 2: of the days, like it's one of the most exciting
Speaker 2: matches you know, in the whole universe, like to me
Speaker 2: because like I, like I said, I hate the elimination
Speaker 2: chamber and I hate money in the bank. I think
Speaker 2: that they've just like totally defcated upon all the undercard titles,
Speaker 2: and the Royal Rumble to some extent has done that.
Speaker 2: But it was supposed to be Okay, well, you get
Speaker 2: a you get to fight the winner. Well, I can
Speaker 2: understand if you fought from one all the way through thirty,
Speaker 2: but if you came out thirty and you didn't do
Speaker 2: Jack squat. You shouldn't have to fight the number one person,
Speaker 2: the world champion. So I have my my my thoughts
Speaker 2: on it, especially some of the victors of it, like
Speaker 2: Vince McMahon, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's some of the things that was a terrible
Speaker 1: humble looking at it, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was those whole pants, It was. It was
Speaker 2: just garbage.
Speaker 1: And I watched that one the other day, funny enough,
Speaker 1: and I'm watching it now. There's hardly no action in
Speaker 1: the ring because all they're concentrating on is Stone the
Speaker 1: Stone Cold and Finch mc mann's story, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean they're fighting in the back and the cameraman's behind
Speaker 1: there and no one's even cares what's going on in
Speaker 1: the rumble, which is quite bad really, And then you
Speaker 1: got there's a bit where Undertaker Midian and the Aqualyites
Speaker 1: to beat up Mabel and take him away, and that.
Speaker 2: Was a key player right there, Mabel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like that's there's a lot of fuffing around
Speaker 1: and messing around, which weren't like normally the cameras should
Speaker 1: be on the Rumble match itself, shouldn't they. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that whole match there is hardly ever in the ring.
Speaker 2: Agreed there, sir.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I was gonna say, let's get back to Skelly's
Speaker 4: predictions there. I think we kind of cut him off
Speaker 4: after he had listed who he thinks will be a
Speaker 4: surprise entrance there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm just going to say for the record
Speaker 1: that I hated last year so I remember, not just
Speaker 1: because Cody Rhodes. We wasn't it. Because don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: he's a good wrestler and I liked him in a
Speaker 1: W and believe it or not, I liked him in
Speaker 1: WW before he came back. But this character does my
Speaker 1: head in a bit like Matt but like it was
Speaker 1: too predictable. Everybody knew he was going to win. Where
Speaker 1: I think this year it's really hard to choose a winner.
Speaker 1: Like you've got John Cena, Roma Manes, Cmpunk, Drew McIntyre,
Speaker 1: Seth Rollins, Ray Mysterio. I don't think Ray Mysteria would win.
Speaker 1: But all these are quite big names. N They're all
Speaker 1: main events, aren't they. So will we see a returning
Speaker 1: Randy Orton? Will we see a returning brot Lesl? Maybe
Speaker 1: will we see there's another one? Maybe Biggie will come
Speaker 1: out if Kofe and Xavier Woodson in the number and
Speaker 1: throw them out. There's a lot of I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think this one's the most exciting one for a
Speaker 1: while because we all know, we don't know who's gonna win. Well,
Speaker 1: I think last year we all knew Cody Rhodes was
Speaker 1: gonna win if you go, I mean, because he had
Speaker 1: to finish his story, didn't he.
Speaker 2: I know, I totally get it, like if I had
Speaker 2: to predict like some somebody like I wanted to predict,
Speaker 2: like Joe Henry. Also, I mean, if he doesn't come
Speaker 2: out like the place is gonna just go soiled. I
Speaker 2: think that it would be fun if what's his name
Speaker 2: from NXT the number ten helped me out here, he's
Speaker 2: going by Sean Spears. Sean Spears comes out as number ten.
Speaker 1: The chair man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't mind seeing him come out
Speaker 2: at number ten, just through one small comedy spot because
Speaker 2: I loved what he did with the first with the
Speaker 2: first aw when they had their version of like a
Speaker 2: royal rumble and he hits somebody and they all screamed ten.
Speaker 2: And then he raised his finger and he did the
Speaker 2: middle finger and everybody screamed eleven, and I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so there's but they said he's he's like kind of
Speaker 2: translating to a backstage role. I honestly, I would like
Speaker 2: to see nick Oldis because it looks like they're building
Speaker 2: something towards nick Oldos and Kevin Owens. And if you've
Speaker 2: never seen nick Oldis Russell, oh my god, he's amazing.
Speaker 2: So that could be really interesting. So nick oldis in
Speaker 2: the Royal Rumble and shoot ladies, Masha Slamovich from TNA
Speaker 2: Foster Slamovich would be amazing. And a lot of people
Speaker 2: who are saying it could happen Malachi slash Alister Black
Speaker 2: what about that? Right now?
Speaker 4: It is potentially possible. He's kind of kept his whereabouts
Speaker 4: and his dealings secret right now for what's going on
Speaker 4: with AW, So it could happen, and right now that'll
Speaker 4: be a conversation for another day. For what's all going
Speaker 4: on AW. It looks like they are on a huge
Speaker 4: downslide and it's disappointing to see so much promise.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know, I know, I know, my nephew.
Speaker 1: I mean, the women's side are not really bothered, not
Speaker 1: not like in a horrible way, but I think obviously
Speaker 1: Charlotte Flair's coming back was she being the umble or
Speaker 1: you know, I could see that, and Becky Lynch comes
Speaker 1: back because I don't she does my heading or maybe
Speaker 1: an Alexa Bliss where she gone she just disappeared off
Speaker 1: the face of the earth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that because I honestly thought she was talented.
Speaker 2: I think that there was a lot more to her
Speaker 2: than people gave on to just because she was so
Speaker 2: much smaller. Say what a j Lee? Damn god, aj
Speaker 2: Gross would be so awesome in that match. Okay, let
Speaker 2: me tell you she finally wrestling. I mean she she
Speaker 2: had Page to work with and a couple others who
Speaker 2: were on her level, but she was really far ahead
Speaker 2: of what she she should have been doing at the
Speaker 2: time that she had left. And now to have like
Speaker 2: actually talented wrestlers with her, my gosh, aj Lee would
Speaker 2: be so amazing, so amazing. And yes, I do think
Speaker 2: she's absolutely beautiful. So that's why I call her a
Speaker 2: j Gross.
Speaker 1: I don't care, but I can imagine maybe seeing like
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe do you use your Torby Wilson
Speaker 1: or Trish Stratus or ELITEA or something like that.
Speaker 2: Maybe well, with n nick Aldos being there, you could
Speaker 2: have Nicky James because that's his life, you know, things
Speaker 2: like that, So you know that that all makes sense
Speaker 2: to me. But at this point, like Jordan Grace is
Speaker 2: definitely going to be there, I think at this point
Speaker 2: it's like a foregone conclusion. I'm just kind of looking
Speaker 2: more at just what's going to be maybe a true
Speaker 2: surprise or something like that, and it's it's hard for
Speaker 2: me to like pick my brain for like a really
Speaker 2: really true surprise, and usually as a fantasy booker, I
Speaker 2: can do things like this. But you know, I I
Speaker 2: know that there's what about Phoenix? What about Phoenix could
Speaker 2: be possible?
Speaker 4: My mind kind of just went to what if they
Speaker 4: were to do an NXT call up for what was
Speaker 4: their name?
Speaker 3: Stephanie vick here.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good one. I think she's very.
Speaker 1: Talented, definitely be an xtse people.
Speaker 2: Or Alexander Hammerstone. The guy looks like a brick and
Speaker 2: he idolized triple H. So he's he's going to get
Speaker 2: a job there at one point or another. But yeah, Hammerstone, geez.
Speaker 2: I mean if if they don't capitalize on him, now
Speaker 2: they are really just letting time like the sands of
Speaker 2: the hour glass. These are the days of our lives,
Speaker 2: and they're just letting that be wasted. But I mean,
Speaker 2: Hammerstone has so much left in his tank, so much
Speaker 2: more left in this tank, and if they don't capitalize
Speaker 2: on him within the next three to four years, and
Speaker 2: you're just twiddling your thumbs. So that's that's one that
Speaker 2: I would like to see, or you know who I'd
Speaker 2: like to see in a w W E ring Frankie KAZERI.
Speaker 4: Interesting, especially seeing as Christopher Daniels just retired. That kind
Speaker 4: of hurts me a little bit. But yeah, that'd be.
Speaker 3: An interesting one to see.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would love to see it. And I
Speaker 2: could see them saying, all right, like let's give him
Speaker 2: his spot. So I think he tried out for like
Speaker 2: dark matches and stuff like that, like way back in
Speaker 2: the day. I mean, also people don't know that like
Speaker 2: aj Styles did and so did. In fact, I think
Speaker 2: aj Styles lost to the hurricane and roder Strong lost
Speaker 2: to Kurt Angle. I mean, there was a lot of
Speaker 2: people that they were testing the indie markets that were
Speaker 2: going around the world, but they didn't have It was
Speaker 2: before they truly established OVW as the hub. But I
Speaker 2: think that that's where they're looking for people and saying
Speaker 2: to Cornett and Danny Davis back then, pick these people up.
Speaker 2: But brass tacks and baseball bats is like they're, oh, God, idea,
Speaker 2: before someone retires, if they could be in a royal rumble,
Speaker 2: So somebody from a different place who they might give
Speaker 2: a pass to. Who would it.
Speaker 4: Be different place before they retire from a different company.
Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, they could be retired.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of a hard one.
Speaker 4: But seeing as Christopher Daniels is, like he just claimed
Speaker 4: his retirement, I could see them giving him like a
Speaker 4: one time pass to be like, hey, man, if you
Speaker 4: want to come through, just to fill a slot for
Speaker 4: the thirty.
Speaker 3: Man, come on in.
Speaker 2: I could see them doing that for him.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I think he might still
Speaker 4: be under contract with aw's probably working in creative or
Speaker 4: something with them at this point.
Speaker 2: I believe you're right, But just looking at the whole situation,
Speaker 2: you might get a one time pass. I mean, they
Speaker 2: let Jericho work with Stone Cold when he was signed
Speaker 2: to AW to do Stonecolts podcast, which was on the
Speaker 2: WWE network, So you never know, that's right, You know,
Speaker 2: and it's it's always supposed to be unpredictability. What about you, Scully,
Speaker 2: What one person who could be retired or unretired but
Speaker 2: you don't see could be there, but you wish.
Speaker 1: I think I like to see even though I don't
Speaker 1: read like him now because I kind of feel like
Speaker 1: he's he just isn't as good in the ring as
Speaker 1: he once was. But you just mentioned him. Jericho would
Speaker 1: be a good show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely put a lot with that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot with that.
Speaker 1: I would love if he had one more stint in WWE,
Speaker 1: and that would be Christian because I think he's amazing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's it's so sad to see that he's
Speaker 2: like so Christian. I don't know, Like I wish. I
Speaker 2: hope he has five more years left in him. It
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be in front of the mic. It
Speaker 2: could be behind the scenes as being a producer, because
Speaker 2: I think that he could be a brilliant producer. So definitely,
Speaker 2: definitely that's a great pick. And I would go with
Speaker 2: and you're gonna laugh at me, guys, but the very
Speaker 2: first podcast ever with Rocky Team, the Great Muda, hmm,
Speaker 2: good show.
Speaker 3: That'd be an interesting one Scully. You know, uh, Mooda
Speaker 3: is coming to the.
Speaker 2: UK, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah I heard about that. Are you gonna go and
Speaker 1: see him?
Speaker 4: I hope too, but uh, we'll see what happens, you know,
Speaker 4: pricing and having to travel and everything, you know, how
Speaker 4: it goes. But yeah, I just wanted to throw that
Speaker 4: out there real quick for anybody that's wondering. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of these guys that are traveling around and they
Speaker 4: do autographs and meet and Greece and stuff.
Speaker 3: So just look them up guys.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you can find comic cons or whatever they're going to.
Speaker 4: But anyways, back on topic, that is a really great
Speaker 4: pick because Muda is very talented, especially back in his heyday,
Speaker 4: but him now, I think he would still be able
Speaker 4: to perform very well. Between him and maybe Tajiri as well,
Speaker 4: that'd be interesting.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. Plus the fact that hasn't the Undertaker made
Speaker 2: a couple appearances lately and who have they never seen
Speaker 2: go head to head and Muda and the Undertaker and
Speaker 2: Undertaker did go head on head with Sting when he
Speaker 2: was me and Mark Callous, So when people say they
Speaker 2: never faced each other one on one, no, was never
Speaker 2: in a WWE ring. Under rebranded names. But that's yeah,
Speaker 2: Muda one one last time. Oh gosh, can you imagine
Speaker 2: place would light up? I mean, at least the the
Speaker 2: elder statesman like me who've been like the hardcore one million,
Speaker 2: and then the younger two to three million like you man,
Speaker 2: those who know who yeah, and Scully in the middle.
Speaker 2: It's it's a different dynamic.
Speaker 1: I would look like, sure MICUs to have one Lasco,
Speaker 1: but we know that I ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Mm well, if the rumble, I think it would be
Speaker 4: for a really quick spot in just that quick pop.
Speaker 4: At this point, you know, I think he's just so
Speaker 4: far past his prime. I think he just wants to
Speaker 4: be done with it. I think he'd come in probably
Speaker 4: shirt on as well, just like yeah, I'm not getting
Speaker 4: back in complete shape to be there for a few seconds,
Speaker 4: because I don't think he really wants to be performing
Speaker 4: as much anymore outside of just some mic work.
Speaker 2: You know that sounds about right at this point. I
Speaker 2: hate to say it, but you know, you know I agree.
Speaker 4: He's got to retire at some point, man. I mean,
Speaker 4: he can't go forever. He doesn't want to. I don't
Speaker 4: mean this in a bad way, but he doesn't want
Speaker 4: to be like Flair and just never want to retire
Speaker 4: fully sort of thing, you know.
Speaker 1: For Yeah, and to be fair, his last stint with
Speaker 1: Triple H Chin Canaan undertake was quite bad to any.
Speaker 3: I heard about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not as long winded like Returns. That's like, dude,
Speaker 4: this isn't gonna work for you, especially if it's for
Speaker 4: a one night thing.
Speaker 3: It's just not worth it.
Speaker 2: Just stay gone or help with creative man.
Speaker 4: But all right, guys, do we have any other topics
Speaker 4: that we want to try to cover here or should
Speaker 4: we just wrap this thing up and go into recommendations
Speaker 4: for the week for our listeners.
Speaker 2: Well, I've got nothing else that I want to go
Speaker 2: into as far as the topic. I just want everybody
Speaker 2: to have a great Royal Rumble two weeks because basically
Speaker 2: it is actually like ten days away or something like that,
Speaker 2: so it's going to be very interesting. This gives everybody
Speaker 2: a reason to watch Access TV and watch a little
Speaker 2: bit of TNA, which their feeduer system is Ohio Valley Wrestling,
Speaker 2: which is here in Louisville. So it's very interesting because
Speaker 2: I was actually going to cover like one of their
Speaker 2: pay per views like a year or so ago, and
Speaker 2: I asked Matt his permission on it, and he was
Speaker 2: cool with it, but I just never did it. I
Speaker 2: had to work that night and I couldn't get off
Speaker 2: in time to be there. But I'm going to give
Speaker 2: you a recommendation on a movie. So if you you
Speaker 2: want to see a weird psychological movie, it's called a Bubble.
Speaker 2: It's by Steven Soderberg. The guy's a brilliant director, and
Speaker 2: it was filmed with no actual actors. Everybody was a
Speaker 2: local person who lived wherever they were. It's about basically
Speaker 2: people who work in a toy factory who start to
Speaker 2: go a little nuts. And you can reach me at
Speaker 2: one four or four Captain on X. And also I
Speaker 2: want to say a happy good night to Dennis McGowan
Speaker 2: and his best friend Butch.
Speaker 4: All right, So my recommendation for any of the listeners
Speaker 4: out there, I'm actually gonna go a little bit different
Speaker 4: than my usual. So this time I'm gonna say actually
Speaker 4: a poem that I recommend. It's called If by Rudyard Kipling.
Speaker 4: I just remember back in I was in basic training
Speaker 4: at the very end. Now basic training, everybody goes to
Speaker 4: church service or something on Sundays, because that is like.
Speaker 3: A little bit of time off.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna get yelled at or anything when you
Speaker 4: go to church. It's kind of a nice little time.
Speaker 4: For the very last service, the pastor that was running
Speaker 4: it was saying, yeah, guys, this is my last one
Speaker 4: at this church, So I'm gonna leave you guys with
Speaker 4: this one thing. And it's just this poem that a
Speaker 4: lot of people here really do appreciate.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what I'm gonna leave you guys with.
Speaker 4: And once again, you guys can reach me at maintenance,
Speaker 4: MAV on a Twitter, X, whatever you want to call
Speaker 4: at this point, and as my usual, do something nice
Speaker 4: for somebody you never know who needs it out there.
Speaker 4: Some people need to pick me up once in a while.
Speaker 4: And with that, I'm out. Scully recommendation and close it out, buddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, recommendation. So I haven't really watched any films recently
Speaker 1: or any TV series in particular, but do you any
Speaker 1: thing I would recommend is I was recently watching series
Speaker 1: called Time and it's quite good. It's about a guy
Speaker 1: who goes to prison for drink driving. Basically, it's a
Speaker 1: miniseries sort of thing. He goes to prison for drink driving,
Speaker 1: and he's in prison with a bunch of convicts and
Speaker 1: people who's murdered and stuff. Where he's here is like
Speaker 1: a normal guy, but he got drunk, ran over someone,
Speaker 1: and he's trying to deal with prison. He's got some
Speaker 1: good actors in it, so I'd recommend that. And then
Speaker 1: you can always reach me if you want to on
Speaker 1: X or Twitter whatever they call it, at Michael'skully eighty six.
Speaker 1: And if you want to watch some silly videos, you
Speaker 1: can also see me on TikTok with the same name
Speaker 1: at Michael'scully eighty six.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not a huge TikTok guy or anything,
Speaker 4: but I do enjoy some of the stuff that you'll
Speaker 4: send us once in a while. Man, like seeing his
Speaker 4: I think it was a stone cold entrance that he
Speaker 4: mimicked and it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the running off the logs kind of made
Speaker 2: me laugh, or whatever they were that you were running
Speaker 2: off of was hilarious.
Speaker 1: God.
Speaker 2: Also, I'm gonna throw out a recommendation for the three
Speaker 2: of us. I want to do the movie The One
Speaker 2: and Only. It stars Henry Winkler and it's about a
Speaker 2: broadway wrestler or a Broadway actor who turns pro wrestler
Speaker 2: to pay and make sure his family doesn't starve. And
Speaker 2: it's a very interesting movie. It's from seventies maybe early eighties,
Speaker 2: but it's an awesome movie and the end is the
Speaker 2: payoff and it makes you laugh and it makes you
Speaker 2: just kind of say, I love wrestling.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll definitely check that one out.
Speaker 2: All right, sounds.
Speaker 3: Good to me.
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