Speaker 1: All Star Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.
Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and science gets denied. Come off
the Bench, Hour two of Off the Bench Live from
the Raising Kine Studio.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in our number two O TV.
Here on this Wednesday morning, we talked a little bit
about Florida and Matthew's love for the Gators and how
they'll never be high because of that love for the Gators.
That job is open and now it joins Penn State
in Arkansas, and the UCLA and Oklahoma State, Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2: And the list goes on and on and on.
Speaker 3: And because you have that list, that is forever growing,
it's going to be every single weekend.
Speaker 2: Now we're going to have one firing.
Speaker 3: It feels like, and it almost feels like you can
say that in absolutes, because you want to get ahead
of it. You want to get your job out in
front of whoever the top candidates are going to be.
And so I know Florida State said that they're behind
Mike Norvel. That's because they've got fifty three million dollars
while they have to be behind Mike Norvel with that
buy out there, even though he it's been almost five.
Speaker 2: Hundred days, I believe, since he's won an ACC game.
Speaker 3: So that's a long time ago, and that's certainly not
the standard at Florida State.
Speaker 2: They didn't win one a year ago. They haven't won
one yet this season. Well say that again.
Speaker 3: It's been almost five hundred days since Florida State won
a ACC game.
Speaker 2: It's football matchup. Yeah, and they just lost to Stanford.
That's alarming.
Speaker 3: Yes, huh. How they beat Alabama? Why did I think
they were decent?
Speaker 2: Last year?
Speaker 3: They won two games I didn't watch. Yeah, well, you
didn't have a sports show yet. That's true two years ago,
not last year, but the year before. They we run
the feed in the regular season. That's what you're think.
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your friend tells me that as of October twenty
second today, it has been six hundred and ninety days
since Florida State won an ACC football game.
Speaker 2: I thought it was like five hundred. Okay, whatever the number.
That's what chat GBT says.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if we can try.
Speaker 2: So it's factual, no doubt. Go ahead and put that
in stone. Yeah, that do it?
Speaker 3: But they've they've said local reassess at the end of
the year, and maybe it does come open, but I
don't think so, because you would have already done it,
or maybe you're trying to raise the money right now.
I don't really know. But it's not going to be
the only jobs. And so who do we think is
going to hire the right coach? Do we think it's
going to be Penn State. Do we think it's gonna
be Virginia Tech? Is it going to be the Florida Gators?
Are you worried the Florida Gators are going to hire
someone that's is going to just completely come in there
and turn Florida into what it used to be. So,
I mean, you've had Will Muscham and mcilwayne, You've had
Dan mull and Dan Mullen by far the most successful
of recent memory. Then you have Billy Napier, who's twenty
two and twenty three overall. They're headed for their third
losing season in the last four seasons.
Speaker 2: Think about that for Florida. Think about it.
Speaker 3: If I'd have told you that in two thousand and seven,
if I would have said the team that we're about
to play tonight at one point here down the road
is going to have losing seasons in three of the
four and the one they didn't have a losing season,
they had to go on a five game winning streak
to do so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pull it out of their rear. Yes, I guess this.
Here's where I'm a little different than probably most people.
Speaker 2: Well is long and distinguished. Thank you.
Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever been bashta Bay saying I
hate Florida. They're my least favorite team. They're my true
rival for LSU. Now, everybody's different, and I respect that
because at certain times the rivalry is different. Before I
got LSU, it was more Auburn Florida during my time afterwards,
rightfully Alabama. So depending on when you were at LSU,
is who you kind of hate the most, right so,
Florida is mine. I don't wish that Florida's program burns
to the ground. I want Florida to be good. I
don't like That's where I'm different from everybody. I think
college football is amazing, and when the good teams are good,
college football is better. I want LSU to be able
to beat them when Florida is good.
Speaker 2: I don't want them to be irrelevant.
Speaker 5: How sad is it that Florida State has gone into
this black hole of irrelevancy. Like college football is better
with Florida stay being good. College football is better with
Miami being good. So I don't wish that Florida is
a is a bad program. I love beating good people.
I love beating your rival, the team you hate the most.
When they are riding high on their horse, thinking they
are all that, thinking they're the best, and you.
Speaker 2: Make them cry. I like that. That's what I like.
Speaker 5: I don't want them to I don't want them to
be a doormat. Yeah, I want them to hire a
good coach, and I want to beat them when they're
at their best. That's where I'm different, all right.
Speaker 2: So now it's different.
Speaker 3: Like before, there's places that if it opened up asking questions,
you're going like, hey, guys, get everything packed up, we're
going to Gainesville, We're going to state College, like whatever.
But now like seeing teams like a Vanderbilt, like a Missouri,
like a Georgia Tech they call Indiana, it's like you
can do it in multiple places now. So with Lane
Kiffin being the Vegas favorite to take the Florida job,
I would say, why you're in Oxford. They love you there,
all right, You don't have quite the expectation that they
have at Florida, right, wrong, are indifferent?
Speaker 2: You just don't.
Speaker 3: You've got it rolling already. You've built a culture. You
literally can get whatever you want from administration because they
love you and the equity that you've built up because
you're doing things they've never done before. With Florida having
losing seasons in three of the last four years, why
would I go there? And he's making a ton of money.
It's not like they're going to give him so much
money that he can't deny it at Florida, right, So
like for people to think, oh, well, the old mis coach,
you're going to go to Florida. Yeah, ten years ago,
five years ago maybe, yep, not now yep.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 5: Coaching, that's an ego thing, like coaches. All coaches have egos.
All players do too. All players have vegos. And I'm
not and I'm not using that in saying an ego
is a bad thing. Right, It can be a bad thing.
You got to have one a little bit, you got
to have one. It can be a bad thing. But
all coaches have egos to the point where like, well,
I can fix this. I can fix that guy. I could.
He's got the talent. I know he hadn't been good.
I can fix him.
Speaker 2: I got this.
Speaker 5: I can I can be different. And there are coaches
that can do that. But why would Lane Kiffin take
the job at Florida or for at LSU for that matter,
because they got like, because that's blowing up my Twitter.
Speaker 2: Feed, like Lane yeah, oh really right, my god, it's
like it's it's annoyed and twitter feed one in these
streets right now. I'm in a deep right now for
a week.
Speaker 5: But why would he go to Florida when that playbook's
already been played out with another coach from Mississippi? Yeah,
and n on we said, like, dam only could have
had a sat there a Mississippi State gone seven and five,
eight and four for the next twenty years, had a statue, Yeah,
made five.
Speaker 2: Six seven million a year.
Speaker 5: But you go to a team that is struggling, has
high expectations and he gets fired before he should have. Yeah,
and they just hadn't seen the success. So why would
Lane Kiffin make that move? And he like, I keep
going back to the comment that I heard a couple
of weeks ago. I can't remember if it was on
game day or when it was. I think I think
a couple of years ago, Lane was in probably a
different place. I think he was looking for another spot. Yeah,
but he made a comment a couple of weeks ago
that he said.
Speaker 2: I needed old Miss more than old Miss needed me. Right.
That tells me like you're pretty happy with where you're at.
So I don't see. I know he's the odds on favorite.
I don't know why.
Speaker 5: Maybe just because people like to think it's a good fit. Yeah,
I don't see it happening.
Speaker 3: I don't either, And I don't know like Jeff Fish
makes sense because he, you know, went to school there
and coach there and the whole deal. Like would Florida
fans be happy with the Washington coach coming to take
over for Billy Napier? Like fans have to I think
change their expectation too. I'm trying to see if I
can pull up the odds.
Speaker 2: Do you have to work it out for him? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I can pull him up in front of you pull
them up. Well, like that guy just kind of wins
wherever he goes.
Speaker 5: Hey, what was my one of my bold predictions I
believe was John Gruden is going to be a coach
in the SEC before the second round of the playoffs?
Speaker 2: Was it? M H wasn't that? I don't know? Yeah
it was?
Speaker 3: Ye. So just like so, the same conversation goes to
Penn State, like Kurt Signetti, who before he signed his
eleven point three per year deal, why I made the
same playoff at Penn State made last year.
Speaker 2: I'm in a better direction right now.
Speaker 3: They literally would think about building a statue of me
as we speak.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: And you just fired James Franklin, who made the playoff
a year ago, with expectations that are national championship or
bust when they haven't won one since nineteen eighty six.
You and I were in diapers the last time they
won a national championship. But that's the expectation. Why would
I leave Indiana in today's college football, where Indiana can
pay their coach eleven plus million dollars per season and
he can get a roster that plays out as similar
to Penn States than ever before, and again if he
wins games for the rest of that contract a year,
Indian football is going to be excited about it.
Speaker 2: The math has changed.
Speaker 3: The math has completely changed with where we're at, right, Yeah,
some of the blue bloods might not have the leverage
that they once had because just because of the decal
on the side of the helmet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3: All right, So there's the Vegas odds to be the
next head coach at Florida. Okay, we just talked about
Lane Kevin. Who's got the best odds? Plus two hundred.
Jeff Brom second, plus three hundred. Jeff Brom. Where'd he
played college football? Matthew, Uh, yes, And you don't have
to say it as a question. You should know that
you played with his brother, Brian Brom, who's also on
their staff. Yes, Jeff Brom played quarterback at Louisville. Thank you,
James Franklin. We'll come back to that. Eli Drinkwitz. Eli
has won double digit games back to back years in
Missouri's on his way to doing it for a third time.
And oh yeah, they have state laws in Missouri that
help out his football program. They are the only major
football program in the entire state of Missouri. Okay, Marcus Freeman,
I think he's leaving Notre Dame to go to Florida.
Don't think so. Should Urban Myers on this list? Do
you want Urban Meyer to be your head coach? After
what you saw there in Jacksonville? All right, so James
Franklin maybe maybe James Franklin. Maybe that's it. He's plus
six hundred there, Jeff Fish plus one thousand. He's got
a lot of ties to Gainesville into Florida. Okay, that
would makes a lot of sense. And maybe it's Alex
Golish at South Florida. We go down to Brent Key,
Hey Matt. Where Brent Key played college football?
Speaker 2: Just based on the tone of the question. Georgia Tech.
Speaker 3: Georgia Tech, Hey Matt. Kenny Dillingham's next on this list.
Where did Kenny Dillingham graduate college from? I'm Arizona State,
Arizona State.
Speaker 2: I'm good at this.
Speaker 3: So all these people that you think would leave, like
Jeff brom play quarterback at Louisville, was the star at Louisville.
He's got them beating the number two team in the
country on the road. Brent Kee played football at Georgia Tech,
played offensive line. He's got his team the number seven
team in the country. Kenny Dillingham from the area went
to Arizona State, he had them in the College Football
Playoff a year ago.
Speaker 2: It's not like it used to be where you're like.
Speaker 3: We're Florida, or we're Penn State or if you know,
when LSU, like if it was open, it's not like
it used to be.
Speaker 2: It's not like it once was. Now. I think LSU
is much better than those jobs.
Speaker 3: I think LSU obviously is like a top five, so
maybe they don't fall as much into this category. But
Penn State and Florida, you know, they have the highest
standard that you can have. But with all of these
coaches like now in today's college football, I can make
a case for them staying where they're at current And
sure maybe James Franklin takes it, Sure maybe does.
Speaker 5: Is there anybody in the world better at their job?
The Jimmy Sexton, no, say Jimi for those of you
all wondering if, if if anybody doesn't know, Jimmy Sexton
is the agent, super agent, the agent for you know,
most most high profile college coaches, who controls, absolutely controls
the narrative of rumors of Hey, this guy wants to
go here, this guy's looking at this job, this team's
looking at that job, controls the narrative to of course
grow the contract and the offering, and has been the
spearhead and the catalyst to all these like absolutely insane
buyouts from all these colleges with these head coaches. And
he's done it all by like almost creating a monopoly
of clients. Like if you have all the coaches in
the SEC, then you can create any roomor you want
any narrative you want. So, I mean, I don't think
there's ever been a man alive that's better at his job.
Speaker 2: Yep, College game Day?
Speaker 3: Why was he in the background, because he's got both
those coaches SEC spring meetings. There's somebody that hosts a
little mixer with all the SEC coaches and administration.
Speaker 2: It's Jimmy down there at the lobby bar.
Speaker 3: Because he's got half the league and probably more than half,
probably eighty percent of the league. And so if you
got a job, it's open. And you think that we're this,
we're that school, we're gonna be able to go get
a B or C.
Speaker 2: We get our pick.
Speaker 5: This is just like a quick like little Google search
of like SEC coaches, and I'm sure it's more Nick
Saban Kirby smart, Steve Sarcasia, Mike, Mike norval O, Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 2: He's got has he got drink? I think he's got
a drink, probably drink with my quick lift.
Speaker 3: So if you're looking for a head coach and you
just assume I would.
Speaker 2: Be careful that I would tread lightly.
Speaker 3: A lot of people talking about coach oh off her
Coacho wants see Oregon state job. I don't know how.
I don't know that that's factual. I have heard that, and
I could see that. I could see that. I could
see coach O going to Corvallis, small town, be a
good fip, galizing the.
Speaker 2: Fan base a little bit.
Speaker 3: They got some buy in, they got a great campus,
they got a buy in. So I don't know, I'll
see if that happens. I know we want to coach again.
That'd be a lot of fun. All right, We'll take
a break. More OTB when we come back here live
from the Raisin Kine Studio.
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Speaker 1: Locked in l s U Football twenty four to seven.
You're listening to off the bench.
Speaker 2: Dog didn't have the headphones, I didn't need them. Got
over here, I wonder.
Speaker 6: I knew what it was.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 5: Just like her same thing basically three concert get a
hide up, always be.
Speaker 3: Uh. Doctor Stephen Etheridge's back again with us on his
Wednesday spot Doc How We Doing?
Speaker 2: How We Living?
Speaker 6: Could be better?
Speaker 5: But yeah, were making it. It's Wednesday, putin, put it
behind us.
Speaker 2: We're looking forward. I know. I a tough tough weekend
for Doc.
Speaker 3: Obviously, you know, the l Shoe game didn't go like
we wanted to Florida State lose this to Stanford.
Speaker 2: I said that, right, they lost to Stanford. Haven't won
an a C C game since Movie Dick was a Minno.
It's rough.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, from where we started at the beginning the year,
I was feeling really good.
Speaker 3: Oh, like, there needs to be like an immediate case
study of how that happened.
Speaker 2: We got to dive into it.
Speaker 3: You beat a team that looks like they might be
the best team in the country, beat them.
Speaker 6: It wasn't like some weird flat game.
Speaker 3: I know, like, yeah, well, you had six months to prepare.
I get that, but my goodness, I can't explain it. Hey,
You'll always have Bama, That's it. You will always have Bama.
All right, we got a lot to get to with Doc.
There we were talking about wearing boots, and I feel
like it's something that is certainly more prevalent than the
more we're Like when we were playing, if you saw
a boot come.
Speaker 2: Out, you're like, oh, boys, you're done.
Speaker 3: You're done for the year, Like you're out, like you
see bot. But like now I'm noticing that. It's like,
even if you plan on playing the next week, it's like, okay,
let's get this in a boot. Let's make sure that
we protected traveling home whatever, Like what are the reasons
maybe behind why that changed.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's's funny. It's one of those things you know,
we'll hear it and a lot of times from the
media and stuff. Oh we saw the guy leaving the
facility in boot and everybody's in a panic and understandable,
especially if it's one of your dudes. But we've kind
of learned that, Look, if you want to get something
better quickly, let's do the full court press on it.
Let's not just kind of say, look, we'll kind of
play it slow. So if you got an ankle sprain,
regardless high ankle, low ankle, severe, mild, moderate, one thing
we've kind of seen is let's go in and really
be aggressive on the front end. Let's get you immobilized,
let's put you in the boot. Let's not risk a
any further injury because maybe you have a mild sprain.
You're walking out of a facility, maybe not even in practice,
and you step off that curve and you roll it
because it's a little bit weak, a little bit irritated, whatever,
So you're kind of avoiding that. But then also just
just to give it some some protection, just you know,
to go ahead and start that healing process. The sooner
the better. So yeah, a lot of times it's not
an injury where we expect that the patient will be
out the following weekend. A lot of times it's just
to hey, let's get out in front of this thing.
Let's be super protective. So so it is something we
do very commonly now. And you know, we're fortunate, you know,
these days in age with resources. I mean, we've got
a closet full of boots, so we might as well
throw you in one. Yeah, and we're not unique in that.
I mean, obviously we got great resources, but a lot
of people do. But that's why you'll see that a
lot more, I think now, just just kind of a
change the mindset.
Speaker 3: Well, because like I said, like when we saw one
when we were playing, even like at the next levels,
like oh man, that guys, like the only boots that
we wanted to see was when you drink beer out
of you right right, you're right.
Speaker 2: And I remember I wore a boot when I was
in high school.
Speaker 5: I had a little fracture on the top of my foot,
and a lot of it was because, of course, like
I didn't want to be cruching around and like you can,
you can kind of rock on the boot, but a
lot of it was just because he didn't want somebody
to step on your foot. Like it was because it's
got a little hardshell on the outside, so it like
kind of protects you from just like getting hit randomly.
So I understand like the over precaution, but like explaining
the difference between like an injury of all right, you're good,
here's a boot. It's going to help you kind of
like rock from the front to that. I remember that
the heel rocked from the front because it took all
the pressure off your foot. Like what the severity of
injury between like, hey, get this boot on for precautionary
or like we got to crutch around at this point
because you know, I don't feel like you see a
ton of guys unless it's like post surgery that are
actually using the traditional crush.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think. I think most of the times there's
always gonna be an exception to this. But I mean,
you know there you see you see the crutches, that's
probably gonna be a little more significant. You know, there's
gonna be those exceptions. But most of the times that's
the case because that's gonna be something where there's a
broken bone, there's something where we don't want to risk
any injury. I mean it's not always a broken bone,
but something that's unstable. We don't even want to take
the chance of you putting weight on it. Whereas the boot,
like you said, it might just be something where we're
trying to offload it. You know, I tell my patients
a lot in the clinic, like, hey, we're gonna put
you in a sling, We're gonna put you in a boot,
We're gonna have you wear this thing to the point.
You made that not just so that it protects you,
but it also people see it because sometimes you know,
somebody step on your foot, but they see you walk
up the boot, they're gonna give you kind of a
wide birth. So so a lot of those things are true.
So so now that doesn't mean that every time in
the boot it might not be serious.
Speaker 2: There are going to be those.
Speaker 6: Exceptions, but as a general rule, it can go both ways.
With the boot, crutches probably more significant. So don't freak
out if you see a guy with a bib. But
if you're lucky you get one of those. They didn't
have these and we're playing the one legged bikes. Scooters,
scooter those are a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Those are those look fun.
Speaker 3: If you're in one of those, you're probably in a spot,
a bad spot.
Speaker 2: Those aren't just to take some load off.
Speaker 3: There also something in the news and you mentioned it
this morning's it's a great point out by you because
we talked about it in the off season. But A
and them gotta find fifty thousand dollars for faking injuries,
and it's been a big point of emphasis to not
do it, to slow down teams.
Speaker 2: Arkansas was trying to go fast.
Speaker 3: Fifty grand for faking injuries, and so I mean, did
the doctors just not sell it enough.
Speaker 2: They went out there, you.
Speaker 6: Got to ask you know, I think I think we
got we got to work on our acting skills. It
was something that was brought to our attention, you know,
as I believe it was a summer before last when
they kind of made a conscious effort of saying, hey, listen, guys,
y'all need to be able to document. You know, there
is the hip the stuff. So we can't necessily come
out and say exactly what's going on, but we have
to be able to like, hey, there is an injury
there there. The the SEC and the NCAA both cracked
down a little bit on you know, the injury reports
doing all these things. And and look, we I think
we've talked about it in past shows. We've all been
out there. We know the guys that will sometimes get
that injury though done. Yeah, I mean it's it's you. Yeah,
But I think I think at the very least, you
gotta be more slick. I think, you know, from what
I saw, they apparently somebody signals stumped to the guy
on the sideline of what I read at least, and
and so yeah, A and M you know, uh, I
can't say I hate it for them, but uh, yeah,
it's it's gonna be something probably with the last time
we see that happen.
Speaker 5: I think this begs the question is HIPPA enforceable if
it's a fake injury?
Speaker 6: You know that is that is kind of a good question,
think about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, deep thoughts, deep thoughts. What are you done for
the day? I'm done? I'm spent.
Speaker 5: So what's so do you have like a story from
you don't have to obviously no names, but like you
have a story from when you've gone on the field
and it was like clear as day a fake injury,
and like what is said between the player and the
training staff, the doctor staff, and then do you do
you just like grab an egg and start like moving
it around or what?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, not to you know, obviously you can't
do bus. But uh we had a guy that was
one of our players a few years back that it
was it was it was really good at it. I
mean he was so to the point, like literally even
though every time he go down, I really didn't know,
like he he sold it well. So I'd be going
out there and you know, and I'd be like, oh, man,
is this is this time real? And you know this
is this is this is when Jack was still our guy,
and I guess he'd kind of gave me the look
and I know, okay, I can kind of not not
be as worried now, but yeah, usually you still gotta
you got to do your part in that scenario because
it would happen. Guys tired, He's like, I need a breather. Yeah,
well let's let's stress his hand me out for a second.
Let's kind of take a look at this knee and
and and yeah you have to. You know people won't
like hearing it, but that's part of it.
Speaker 2: You're a team doctor, so you're a part of the team.
Speaker 6: I don't want to be the reason we got the
fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Fine, so you know, I'll never.
Speaker 3: Forget when I did it against Florida because my chin
strap would buckle and I was on extra point. I'm
sitting down there and I just scored a touchdown and
Baron Jack come out there, and then you know, they're like,
what's going on.
Speaker 2: I'm holding my knee. I'm like, I think I'm really
selling it's probably really bad.
Speaker 3: I was like, Trip won't buckle on there, and Jay goes, oh,
my you wanted a curtain call.
Speaker 2: You wanted a curt Oh, you know, I don't hate it.
Speaker 5: I faked that injury against Alabama and it's just so
bad because my chin strap broke. So we did a
we did like a reverse pass early, do set throw
a pass to me down the sideline.
Speaker 2: I get tackled. You know, I don't have a thirty forty
yard game.
Speaker 5: And I get there and Carnel Stewart, all right, tackle
comes down to celebrate me head butts me and it
breaks my chin strap and like you could see it.
They have a zoomed in vision of it on the
game copy, on the TV copy, and it's like, I'm
trying to like buckle my my chin strap and it
won't buckle, and I look at it. You can see
me looking at it, and I see that as broken.
And I look up and you can see the whill spinning.
And then I go back to my training and I
grabbed my knee and it just hit the ground, and
I think an injury. Like oh, then I realized, Oh,
when they tell us to do that, they're talking to
everybody but the quarterback. Yeah, the quarterback can't really do
it because I'm just gonna take a time out anyway.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this doctor, and I think we could
probably find it. It was so bad that they thought
he was cancussed a little bit.
Speaker 2: They thought he had a.
Speaker 3: Oh me play football looking at it like gin strap
and then you just like, oh you see the light go.
Speaker 5: I remember my my parents after after the game, like, hey,
next time you do that, can you not take a
knee injury?
Speaker 2: Like maybe just grab your shoulder or something and go
down a little closer to there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess a p s A. You know, don't
don't have but your quarterback.
Speaker 3: Our tackle like Aaron Rodgers got maybe Oh my god
the other day, did you see that? Not they I
mean they go down, they score as a dime by
Aaron Rodgers, they take the lead. They end up losing,
but they take the lead. Looks like they're gonna win
the game. And a young offensive lineman comes behind Aaron
Rodger just kind of jumps on his back and tackles
him to the ground. And the look that Aaron Rodgers
gave him when he got kill. Hey, I'm forty one
years old, my guy, I don't get to you.
Speaker 6: Know, we don't need any other reasons there. That's that's
forty one impressive.
Speaker 3: Oh all right, doc, Well hopefully next week we come
here and it's better circumstances.
Speaker 2: You know, with LSU, with a FSU, I got faith
he can have good vibes.
Speaker 6: You know, I think we're gonna end them month strong.
Speaker 5: I feel it. I got I got one last question.
So do you think that So we look at in
the NFL scope of things, like so hester a big
Chargers fan, Chargers riddle with injuries. We see teams that
are just that have the injury bug and it's and
it and there's no like reason. Why do you see
correlations with a team that gets riddled? Is it just
pure unlucky or is it you know a lot of
people like to harp on the strength staff and the
strength coaches, like, do you see a correlation with one
way of training and a team being more riddled with
injury or is it just just luck?
Speaker 6: I think you can make the argument for both. I
think in my experience more often luck because I've been
on several teams that seem to do things the same way. Yeah,
and you can look at one year versus the next,
you know, just here at LSU, you look at one
year versus the next when we've had the same staff
and same practice schedules, and one year compared the next
completely different. So there's clearly a love component. But I
also wouldn't wouldn't you know, be nigive enough to say
there's not other factors. You know, if you once you
start getting injuries, so maybe you're your backup lineman is
now having to reps the first and second team, so
he's getting extra reps, and there's other there's reasons that
make sense both from a fair and logical standpoint, and
then from you know, is there something that goes into
how you train, how you practice? You know, it's something
that that probably is there. But I think if I
had to say, it's more often luck, that's that's yeah,
we see it too often and you have too too
much you know, coincidence that the same year year, year,
and then all of a sudden, one year you have,
you know, twice as many injuries.
Speaker 2: Why does that happen?
Speaker 5: I guess I guess it would be like sometimes like
if you get hyper extended or rolled up on.
Speaker 2: That's that's pure bad luck.
Speaker 5: But I guess if a team has more like soft
issue injuries, you could probably try to look at external
factors of why the soft tissue bug is hit your team.
Speaker 6: And we've looked at that and I think we found
some ways to make modifications. And then obviously head injuries.
How you know, with the concussions and camps and things
like that, why were some years worse And you could
go back and look like, yeah, maybe you know that
year we did a little bit more. Yeah, so there's
there's there's definitely correlations. But then on the other hand,
you know, sometimes you gotta be lucky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're telling me whenever my parents would see
like a team that kind of was going through the
injury bug, and they're like, didn't drink their milk.
Speaker 2: There's a milk.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna question Mom and daddy Hesters, so that
they probably do. They're talking about it all right, because
their milk it does a body good.
Speaker 2: But they were like, hey, weak bones, didn't drink their milk.
Speaker 5: And I'm telling you a lot less injuries people. People
used to pitch two games in a day, No elbow injuries. Yeah, milk,
I get that calcium to get that cot Yeah, I
get it.
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Speaker 1: Off the bench.
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Speaker 2: Got a I got a quick stat for you.
Speaker 5: I like numbers, so I talked about earlier the week
schedule of Texas A and M coming into this game.
Of course you know rightfully, So there are top five team, talented,
team top to bottom, the Moffitt effect. Everything we talked
about their strength to schedule. So I looked at want
to go see Marcel Reid's stats versus their only opponent
that's been ranked in the top twenty five. They've only
played one team that has been that is ranked in
the top twenty five or that has been ranked in
the top twenty five this season at some point, and
that is Notre Dame. Of course, the great victory. Marcel
Reed made the plays at the end of the game.
But I wanted to see his passing stats. Now, he
threw for three hundred and sixty yards, hit some big
plays at average of nine point seven yards, two touchdowns,
one interception, but completion percentage seventeen of thirty seven, which
is just over forty five percent completion rate. So in
this day in college football, forty five anything below like
fifty five is not good by back in the old
school way of playing, if you're above fifty percent, it's
a good day at the office. But in this world
forty five percent is a is a poor completion percentage. Now,
he got the victory, made the plays that matter. But
what is one of the strengths of this LSU team.
I would say the strength of the LSU team our secondary. Yeah,
they eat they're good individually, they're individual matchups, So there's
opportunities here Marcel Reid has improved in his passing game
since last year, but just looking at the opponents they've faced,
the only ranked opponent they faced had a below fifty
percent completion percentage. They hit some big play That's why
he had three hundred and sixty total yards. Yeah, passing,
but I think this will be by far the best
secondary he has faced. So let's get that death Valley mojo.
Let's get it rocking. I know we're not where we
want to be. The expectation for this team is far greater,
exceeds far more than what the production is seemed at
this point of the year. But we got an opportunity
to turn it around. And it all starts with each
and every one of the fans going out to the
Tiger Stadium being loud, creating the advantage, creating the advantage
for our defense. Let's feed the strength of our team,
which is the defense. That secondary, make it hard, make
it hard to communicate, and let's see if that defense
can go create some turnovers.
Speaker 3: Someone asked me about his rushing totals this year. He
has fifty one carries two hundred and forty one yards. Now,
you got to remember the sack yards are taken away
from that, So as far as what he's gained is
going to be a greater number than that, but it's
four point seven.
Speaker 2: So still having success on the ground as well, but.
Speaker 3: To match points, sixty one percent completion percentage, and it's
wild because, like you know, fifteen years ago, that's great,
sixty one over kidding me, but now it's like, you
want a closer to seventy. And it was in that
Notre Dame game forty five point nine percent, and you know,
you look at the next game. Didn't throw the ball
as much, only twenty two times against the Auburn secondary
against Mississippi State thirteen of twenty three, only completed fifty
six percent of his passes.
Speaker 2: Now, in a game like this.
Speaker 3: Matt, knowing that you do have some really good defensive backs,
they haven't really been tested. Again, everything has kind of
been made against Eli shoot through the air a lot
of times. It's been the tight end position. It's been
more linebackers in coverage. So with that being said, knowing
your skill set, knowing they've got really good receiver as well,
like I want to make sure I give them their flowers.
Speaker 2: Those two guys are really good. Would you expect l
to be more aggressive?
Speaker 3: Would you expect them to you know they played quarters
in this game against Vanderbilt.
Speaker 2: Would you expect to see Cover one? Like? What do
you expect?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: What would you do if you knew that was your matchup?
Speaker 5: I would isolate, I would isolate man sore, isolate one
on one and then play So a lot of teams
right now, like I see a lot of things. Times
they will play a like a normal shell coverage.
Speaker 2: To the second receiver.
Speaker 5: And then and the man to man the outside guy,
So play quarters that it creates a numbers advantage for
the other the second and the third, the backside receiver
they running back.
Speaker 2: So you can do that.
Speaker 5: But I think the big thing is just being versatile
and being disciplined in your assignments. Because Blake Baker is
going to be aggressive. That's who he is at the
soul of everything.
Speaker 3: I mean, last game Cover one one, I would say
almost half the time, yeahs in there for sure.
Speaker 2: He wants to create confusion.
Speaker 5: He wants in and he wants to create ENTI your
stadium too, wants to create chaos because it's going to
be loud, and so you got you hit all the
five senses, right, so you got you smell the alcohol. Okay,
As a quarterback, you hear everything and then what you
want to be seen, what you want to be seeing.
You want to see confusion, like when you have all
that noise happening and you got people walking around, you're
eating grass and you're feeling it, You're feeling getting hit,
You're feeling the intensity the sound waves. Yeah, play Baker
wants to be aggressive and control, but we have to
be disciplined in our assignments. Are edge rushers, and when
you blitz and have a free look at the quarterback,
which is going to come because of the confusion, that,
like Baker's defense can create confusion, you'll get a free
corner blitzing. You gotta be more disciplined in your rush assignment.
You got to go to the upfield. Childer downfield too.
You have to go. You have to anticipate him trying
to get outside of you.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: And we lost contained too many times this past week
and and of course it was bad. Diego Pavi have
made plays. But it's good teaching tape. It's great teaching
from You have to learn from it. So can they
apply what they're seeing from their mistakes. Can they apply
it this week?
Speaker 1: Do?
Speaker 5: I think Marcel read is the the overall player that
Diego pave is. They're different a little bit similar as well.
I think Marcel's got a little bit more of like
a little bit more of a burst.
Speaker 2: Diego's got more of a chaotic energy and.
Speaker 5: Chat I thrive in chaos. Doesn't matter what's happened around me.
I'm going to find a way to make a play
and things are just gonna happen around me because the
guys are doing their assignment. So I mean, can Elis
use defense have a big game? Absolutely? Absolutely, I think
they can. But they got to fix some things. They
got to be more disciplined. Harold Perkins, when he's in
past coverage, cannot leave his past coverage assignment to go
chase down a quarterback. I don't like seeing the double spies. Yeah,
Like were a lot of times that we're seeing two
spies on the quarterback. Yeah, I don't like to see
that because you got either one less person in pass
rushing or one less person in past coverage. Sure, is
it warranted every now and then? Yeah, you can confuse
some people, But I think we're seeing it a little
too much. I'd like to see just one guy spy.
So you have to create numbers bangs. You got to
get to the quarterback. But I mean, it's got a
got a good opportunity. This is this is going to
be I believe I would think that this is their
quarterback's toughest challenge. I know Notre Dame's got a good defense.
I know Notre Dame is a good team ish kind
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Speaker 1: Bench blocked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven.
You're listening to Off the Bench.
Speaker 2: That's good, all right.
Speaker 3: Welcome to Geo TV, Raisey King Studio. You got a
little alternate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we got a big matchup this week and
in the NFL it oh Yeahler Steelers first, the Packers,
Aaron Rodgers playing his former team first time, right, first time? Yeah, yeah,
of course. He spent a lot of time with Jordan
Love and help mentor him. Was a great mentor towards him.
There's actually a really good, cool article about it. But
the Steelers I saw, are revealing a new alternate uniform
for this game, and there it is. They got a
gold helmet, some weird stripe on the front.
Speaker 2: Those are like the old throwback like leather helmet day
jersey that you would see.
Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, anyway, that that's I wish they were just
like in their traditionals for this matchup. Honestly, just a
traditional uniform Green Bay. Though going back, I actually don't
know if that. I don't think it's not in Green Bay.
I think it's I wish I think somebody said, I
think I read somewhere it might be one of the
first or one of the few gold helmet matchups the
NFL has ever had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was rooting for Oh wait, I'm going
for a good game. And no, no, no, no, what
are you rooting for? A man?
Speaker 5: I don't know, Probably the Steelers, Yeah, maybe the package.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's gonna be fun, all right, Switzerland. Uh,
we'll be back another hour. O TB. A lot of
fun coming at your way.
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