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<v Speaker 1>O Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay if I am six forty yes later with mo Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>We're live on YouTube, Instagram, and the iHeartRadio app. It's

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<v Speaker 2>now time for tech Thursday with Marsha Collier who joins

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<v Speaker 2>us in studio.

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<v Speaker 1>Marsha is always great to see you. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>this evening?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh great? You were talking water yes, room temperature.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to school these young ones out there. It

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<v Speaker 2>stole the virtues of water.

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<v Speaker 4>No, really, water is great, you know, it's even greater.

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<v Speaker 4>What's that a vinyl album?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't disagree with that. Go ahead with that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what was interesting? Vinyl sales are trending up. In

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three, four point three million records were sold

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<v Speaker 4>in the US versus thirty seven million CDs.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder, though, what place CDs have in today's society.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, I understand why people want vinyl.

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<v Speaker 1>They still have utility.

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<v Speaker 2>DJs will still use them, collectors will still buy them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where CDs fall into this category of

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<v Speaker 2>why people would buy them.

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<v Speaker 3>They're slipping between the seats right now. They really are

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<v Speaker 3>people who are paying for downloads.

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<v Speaker 4>They only accounted for four hundred and thirty four million,

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<v Speaker 4>which is less than a third of the sales of

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<v Speaker 4>Vinyl records.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, why am I going to pay for a

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<v Speaker 2>download when I can listen to it on Spotify, I

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<v Speaker 2>can find it on YouTube. For someone who's under the

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<v Speaker 2>age of thirty, they don't know Marcia the importance for

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<v Speaker 2>us and liner notes or you know who played the

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<v Speaker 2>instrument on this song or who wrote the track, all

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<v Speaker 2>that other information that we would find on liner notes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think young people care about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's break this down people.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, we can always argue sound because sound

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<v Speaker 4>on a CD is encoded digitally and compressed rest and it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not what you play one Vinyl next to a CD.

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<v Speaker 2>For those who don't know, if you have the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to a Vinyl album single in headphones, you

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<v Speaker 2>get to hear this dynamic range. The highs are high,

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<v Speaker 2>the lows or lows. There is a mid range. You

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<v Speaker 2>get to hear the fullness of the sound and the recording.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas on an MP three or a wave file is

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<v Speaker 2>compressed and it's all pushed together.

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<v Speaker 1>In headphones you can really hear the difference.

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<v Speaker 4>In a John Williams movie theme, it will sound totally

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<v Speaker 4>different because great music needs vinyl. But then again, Moe

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<v Speaker 4>kind of mentioned about liner notes and you may not

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<v Speaker 4>know what liner notes are. So when we get albums

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<v Speaker 4>and they still do this today, if you are a

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<v Speaker 4>person who gets a vinyl album, on the other side.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a beautiful piece of artwork.

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<v Speaker 4>Normally, I have a wall at my house where I

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<v Speaker 4>have a genis job when I have the first Beatles

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<v Speaker 4>album of like eight albums Jimmy Hendrix, and they're all.

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<v Speaker 1>Just showing off.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'll send you the picture.

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<v Speaker 4>And I love them, but the records are in there

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<v Speaker 4>so I can't play them. But at least they're not warping.

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<v Speaker 4>But the thing is on the other side, when you're

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<v Speaker 4>sitting there with friends and you say I want to

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<v Speaker 4>hear some Jimmy Hendrix, you pull it out and then

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<v Speaker 4>you find look, my third cousin was playing trumpet on

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<v Speaker 4>that tune. Because everybody was credited, you learned about all

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<v Speaker 4>the people.

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<v Speaker 2>But then again, I know the response is, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>have Wikipedia. I can just type in who is the songwriter,

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<v Speaker 2>who is the guitarist.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm quite sure that would be the response to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is something to be said for the tactile

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<v Speaker 2>availability of a physical liner note to as you're listening

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<v Speaker 2>to something, to read about it and also learn something

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<v Speaker 2>about it beyond what is google a bowl on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that, but there's also something else. For as

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<v Speaker 2>much as we may say that vinyl is eclipsing CDs

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<v Speaker 2>as far as sales, I understand why people would still

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<v Speaker 2>prefer the MP three or the Spotify or YouTube because

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<v Speaker 2>that audio, even though compressed, doesn't degrade.

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<v Speaker 3>But sometimes people want to support the artists.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Spotify is not supporting the artists. What was it?

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<v Speaker 3>Weird?

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<v Speaker 4>Al once said that eighty million streams could earn him

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<v Speaker 4>twelve dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>No exaggeration, no exaggeration.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's ridiculous. So I mean you support an artist.

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<v Speaker 4>Taylor Swift made seven up to seven percent of all

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<v Speaker 4>vinyl albums in twenty three, so think of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Swifties want to support her. She isn't making it on

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<v Speaker 3>the downloads.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think, from your knowledge of tech, where might this go?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this a fad? Is this a trend? Or is

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<v Speaker 2>this portending that vinyl is going to be coming back

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<v Speaker 2>in a big way for a considerably longer period of time.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, like fine Swiss watches, I think it will

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<v Speaker 4>become an art form even more so. I mean like

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<v Speaker 4>Taylor Swift, think about it, She'll release the same album

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<v Speaker 4>in different colors and sell them to the same people.

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<v Speaker 2>You made a great analogy there, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>you to skip by that. You think of a fine

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<v Speaker 2>Swiss watch, it's analogue. It's not digital. It's usually made

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<v Speaker 2>of more valuable materials. It's not plastic, it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>luminum as much more staying power is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>around physically longer than the watches that most people wear today.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly, and the watches pateec Philipe. I mean you think

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<v Speaker 4>of Rolex, you think of brands like that. They're not

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<v Speaker 4>going away. They thought they would. Oh the Apple Watch

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<v Speaker 4>came out and everybody's going to happen Tag Hoyer, Yeah exactly,

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<v Speaker 4>and people never gave them up this citizen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember some great watches, weren't they m hm.

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<v Speaker 4>And they're worth a lot of money today if you

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<v Speaker 4>come across them at garage sales. Movado, Oh I got

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<v Speaker 4>so angry at Movado. I had my Mavada was my

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<v Speaker 4>first fancied watch. Bro mine too, and I that same

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<v Speaker 4>one with the circle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the circle top, basic black face yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And it broke and I called them, oh, we're not

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<v Speaker 4>making that watch anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have parts for it. I said, how dare you?

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<v Speaker 3>That was my first big investment in to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>They were not cheap that much, I do know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was a status symbol. But everyone would recognize the

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<v Speaker 2>Movado when you saw Movado looked. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about American Airlines. They've announced this touchless ID

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<v Speaker 2>program and I'm thinking, why would I want a touchless

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<v Speaker 2>ID if I have a real ID? Is it gonna

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<v Speaker 2>work in concert with that or is it something else.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm quite sure Marshall Carier will be able to separate

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<v Speaker 2>it and explain it to us. On the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get right back into it. American Airlines has announced

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<v Speaker 2>this touchless ID program. What is it, how does it

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<v Speaker 2>work and what does it mean against the backdrop of

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<v Speaker 2>real ID.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first of all, it won't be just American Airlines.

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<v Speaker 4>It's anyone who has tsa pre check can benefit by this.

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<v Speaker 4>That's me and American Airlines is the first to put

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<v Speaker 4>it in action at limited airports right now they have it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me see it.

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<v Speaker 4>Dulles A Ronald Reagan excuse me, LaGuardia, Hartsfield, Atlanta and

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<v Speaker 4>Salt Lake City.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting, you say, Ronald Reagan National, which is in

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<v Speaker 2>the heart of Washington, DC. It's it's a very difficult

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<v Speaker 2>airport to get a flight into. That matters because most

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<v Speaker 2>of the time when I go to DC, I fly

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<v Speaker 2>in the Dallas because that's about the only time I

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<v Speaker 2>can get flights into DC that are reasonable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I love this will be great. So let

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<v Speaker 4>me explain to everybody. I'm sure everybody's heard of Clear yep, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Clear is something you pay for and they verify your

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<v Speaker 4>ID before you get on the plane, and they walk

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<v Speaker 4>you over to TSA pre check so that you can

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<v Speaker 4>get ahead of the line. What is TSA pre check.

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<v Speaker 4>You apply for TSA pre check online. It's like a

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<v Speaker 4>six page application, yes it is. Then you get called

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<v Speaker 4>and it asks everything everything you don't want people to know.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you're called in for an interview.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they do in person, in person with the security person.

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<v Speaker 4>And I had forgotten that I had been to Canada

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<v Speaker 4>because to me, Canada is the US.

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<v Speaker 2>And because they ask all about your travel, if you

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<v Speaker 2>left the country, where you've been, how long and so forth, because.

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<v Speaker 4>I travel extensively, And yeah, I've got an extra long interview.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, what TSA PreCheck allows you to do is

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<v Speaker 4>if when you're going on a plane, you'll see that

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<v Speaker 4>line says TSA PreCheck all your ID.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you've gone through.

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<v Speaker 4>This, you get to go in, you get to get

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<v Speaker 4>on the plane, you don't have to take off your shoes,

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<v Speaker 4>you generally don't have to take your laptop out. Now

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<v Speaker 4>the icing on the cake. TSA PreCheck costs seventy eight

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<v Speaker 4>dollars for five years. Then you get the golden The

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<v Speaker 4>golden pass to me, which is Global Entry. Global entry works.

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<v Speaker 4>If you've ever gone out of this country, yep. When

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<v Speaker 4>you get into the US, there are these lines. It

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<v Speaker 4>looks like Ellis Island on a bad day, if you've

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<v Speaker 4>ever seen the old videos.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have Global Entry.

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<v Speaker 1>You bypass it.

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<v Speaker 2>I could be very arrogant when I have my Global

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<v Speaker 2>Entry I kind of like to just wave at the peons.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I'm not going to wait in the line.

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<v Speaker 2>You can bypass that. And getting through customs it is wonderful.

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<v Speaker 4>You just walk, just walk right behind the crew. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>usually and you just ay and the nice man says

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<v Speaker 4>you got anything to declare? Nope, I usually seem a

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<v Speaker 4>de clare.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I have nothing, I bought nothing, I'm doing nothing

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<v Speaker 2>wrong and I'm not on the run.

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<v Speaker 4>And it gets me through always always, and they take

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<v Speaker 4>your picture as you go through because there's a little

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<v Speaker 4>machine you put your passport on, Bingo, it's done. It

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<v Speaker 4>is faster than mobile entry with your passport. If you

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<v Speaker 4>use that app to get into the United States, that

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<v Speaker 4>is very valuable and doesn't cost a penny. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>a TSA app that you can get for no money

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<v Speaker 4>at all. But Global Entry is gold because it helps

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<v Speaker 4>you even when you arrive in another country. So what

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<v Speaker 4>touchless ID is going to do is when you first

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<v Speaker 4>use a touches ID, you get your photo taken as

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<v Speaker 4>you get to the TSA agent because you already have

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<v Speaker 4>TSA pre check, right, so you don't have to put

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<v Speaker 4>out driver's license, passport, that little card with the star,

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<v Speaker 4>none of that nonsense. The system will then compare your

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<v Speaker 4>picture that they just took to the hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 4>of pictures they already have of you, and don't kid

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<v Speaker 4>yourself if they have.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want the government town my pig. I felt

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<v Speaker 4>And then one day I'm standing in London and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>looking at the buildings and the cameras are friggin everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I went to New York.

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<v Speaker 4>Cameras everywhere. How do you think they catch criminals these days?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't go to South Korea. They have more cameras than that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>When you check.

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<v Speaker 4>When I checked in Shanghai, don't they take all the

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<v Speaker 4>pictures in the retinal skins?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's maybe indicative of Asia. It is a

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<v Speaker 3>They kind of make the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but I'm just saying, but being in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>citizens are basically conditioned and understand and accept that wherever

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<v Speaker 2>you go there's some level of surveillance.

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<v Speaker 4>And you have given your fingerprints before. They don't change

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<v Speaker 4>as you get older, so they have your fingerprints. They

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<v Speaker 4>have pictures of you in stages of development from when

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<v Speaker 4>you were getting braces, so they can identify you really

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<v Speaker 4>easy with today's technology. And all you do is now

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<v Speaker 4>you just walk right in. They just take your picture

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<v Speaker 4>and you walk right in. Now, if you would like

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<v Speaker 4>to avail yourself of this, and you are on American

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<v Speaker 4>Airlines and you have TSA pre check, go to the

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<v Speaker 4>American Airlines site on a computer mobile device.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll take you a second.

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<v Speaker 4>You log in and go to the information and password section.

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<v Speaker 3>Of your profile. It's easy to find.

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<v Speaker 4>Then click the but next to opt in to TSA

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<v Speaker 4>touchless ID Nick Bingo. You're in and you'll have to

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<v Speaker 4>renew every year. And I'm telling you a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>credit cards do pay the fees for TSA PreCheck and

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<v Speaker 4>for global entry. If this is something you can get

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<v Speaker 4>if you're planning a trip, no matter what global entry,

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<v Speaker 4>like I said, is that's platinum and TSA PreCheck is gold.

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<v Speaker 4>It makes your airport experience a thousand times.

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<v Speaker 1>I co sign.

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<v Speaker 2>I have both, and I would recommend them to anyone

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, they do give you a little

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<v Speaker 4>global entry card which you don't need a real ID

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<v Speaker 4>when you have that, and it doesn't have your home

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<v Speaker 4>address on it. Think about that, when you have a

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<v Speaker 4>real ID, you're showing.

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<v Speaker 3>Your address to whoever.

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<v Speaker 4>You're showing your card to real federal government IDs where

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<v Speaker 4>they've checked you out, do not put your home address

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<v Speaker 4>on it.

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<v Speaker 3>So thes say pre check.

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<v Speaker 4>The mobile passport card, which is also good for ID,

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<v Speaker 4>does not have your home address on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about Marsha Cary.

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<v Speaker 2>You always give us great advice, usable advice, very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>How can people find you to follow up if they

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<v Speaker 2>want more advice?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on Twitter, my website is Marsha Collier dot com

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<v Speaker 4>and usually once a week somebody tech emails me with

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<v Speaker 4>a tech problem and I help them work through it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I love the emails and I'll find the answers.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Moe.

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<v Speaker 4>And Android Smartphones for Seniors for Dummies is on sale and.

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