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I was out yesterday attending a funeral. AP Dylan has

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been kind enough to reschedule her day to join us now. AP,

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thanks a lot for doing that. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great and absolutely nowhere is there peace always

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here for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate that, and so I guess. Also I

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saw that there was a bit of some sort of

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a mock funeral that you monitored today up in Raleigh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, the House and Senate Democrat held a funeral

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for all the bills that they filed that are still

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in committee and didn't make crossover.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh that's so sad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The sorry NCA House Press account on Axes actually formally

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mocked them.

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Speaker 3: With a oh that's a sad gift.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh they're bad. Bills didn't go anywhere. Oh that's too bad.

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I actually read did you I forget what the bill was?

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I read it earlier a couple of weeks ago. Somebody

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introduced a bill like and the bill title took up

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the whole first page.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that bill? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's it's just such dumb assery and

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virtue signaling, and they have no chance of getting any

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of this stuff passed. At some point, you got to wonder, like,

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why don't you just like try to work on some

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things that might actually pass, that might be good for

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your constituents, Because I'm sure the Republicans would enjoy the

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headlines of a bipartisan deal that they could work with

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you on something, right, But it doesn't seem like that's

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the strategy.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting is the majority of the bills that

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did pass crossover all. Most of them were nearly unanimous,

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with maybe one or two Democrats not voting for them.

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There were maybe a dozen or two bills where it

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was sort of a split along partisan lines, but most

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of those bills dealt with like public safety, like House

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Bill three eighteen, which tightens up the loopholes that have

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been exploited by certain sheriffs not to cooperate with ice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I call that one Gary's Law, named after Gary

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not my Fault McFadden. Yeah, I call him Gary not

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my fault McFadden here because nothing is ever his fault.

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He is the hero or victim, He is never the

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villain in any of these stories.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep. So you know, there are a lot of

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common sense bills like that, you know, expanding you know,

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our investments and digital currencies and that kind of thing.

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and advancing math and science changes and in the education sector.

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you know, a bill that was passed, you know, that

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would ban putting plastic cutlery into go things to go

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delivery for food. Another one would have banned octopus farming.

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These are the not really priorities. No.

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Speaker 1: Wait, the Democrats wanted to ban plastic knives into go

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packs yep.

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Speaker 3: And they wanted to be able to find restaurants who

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didn't comply. Why why Yeah, less unless they're specifically requested.

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They're not supposed to put those things in there because

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plastic the environment at plastic bag thing went yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was thinking public safety like the UK

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and all the knife attacks or something. No, oh, environmentalism. Okay,

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that that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Oh yeah, yeah. I had a whole list of

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these insane bills actually over on my sub stack. At

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one point, I'll shoot those over to you and you

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can share them with your readers.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well people can check it out too. It's called More

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to the Story. It's on a substack platform More to

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the Story. AP's also a reporter for the North State

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Journal and sjonline dot com. You can reader work there,

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in fact, on your substack. You had the story a

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couple days ago about the FBI made the big announcement

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of their nationwide crackdown on child abuse offenders. This was

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last week, so this was a national effort and they

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got some people in North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It was called Operation Restore Justice, and most of

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the raids were conducted during the last week of April.

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They had two hundred and five rust nationwide and there

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were one hundred and fifteen children that were actually rescued

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during some of these operations. And all of those one

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hundred and fifteen fifteen, sorry, two hundred and five, there

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were six that were in North Carolina or one had

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actually lived North Carolina and moved over the border. And

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the vast majority of them, in fact, all of them

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had private prior records for no issues like being arrested.

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one who's got the ties to being on the sex

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offender registry. He was convicted in nineteen eighty eight when

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it was eighteen of sexual battery and fellony restraints of

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a minor, so he was put on the sex registry

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for that. So he was already on the radar of folks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was one guy.

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Speaker 3: A couple that were you know, and have GPS Spartan

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of public safety records. They've got jail time records.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of them you identified, Terrell Sean Anderson, previously

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of Charlotte, arrested by the FBI in Atlanta. He was

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charged with distributing child sex abuse material, possession of child

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sex abuse material, and then by my calculation, what you

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got written here somewhere like he's looking at twenty five

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plus in prison. The guy that was picked up in Oh,

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this one Jonathan Robert Davlin of Huntersville, he's looking somewhere

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around forty five plus years possession and access with intend

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to view this kind of material as well. So and yeah,

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one from Durham, one from Louisbourg, one from Wilmington, and

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then one of Bolivia. Was that Bolivia? North Carolina? Yes, Okay,

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I wasn't sure when I first read it. I was like, wait,

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we picked up somebody, and okay, that makes a little

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bit more sense then. And so you also had this

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connection to and you did another story on this group

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seven six four, seven sixty four.

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Speaker 2: I'd never heard of this. What is seven sixty four?

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Speaker 3: It is a global sex stortion terror network that formed

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so three or four years ago by a guy who

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was in his late teens early twenties at the time

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out of I believe in Texas. He has since been

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arrested and is like spending the rest of his life

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in prison. But they basically do things like they'll find

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a kid on roadblocks or on a social media platform

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that they think is vulnerables, particularly females ages anywhere from

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nine all the way up to sixteen or seventeen, and

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they become their friend and they work on them mentally

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and room them to do things like cut themselves, attack

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their parents, arson, vandalism, new photos of themselves, which then

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they uses leverage over these kids and it's global.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they groom them. And you mentioned roadblocks for

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people who don't know, that's a video game that kids

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play online with other people, and so these adults go

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in there and pose as kids and then they strike

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up friendships online and then they get the kid to

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do these things and then they use that as extortion

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material to get the kids to do worse. And yeah,

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I was not aware of this organization seven six'.

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Speaker 2: FOUR i think you're.

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Speaker 3: Going to be hearing a lot more about them in

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the coming. Months, okay this is just a tip of the.

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Iceberg they arrested a number of these folks globally in

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the last, year but since The trump administration came, in

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they've made it a focus and two of those people

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were involved in that organization or arrested last. Month one

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of them was arrested in High, Point North, carolina a

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guy Named Prossan nepaul who was twenty years.

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Speaker 1: Old so all, right and you can read more about

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that add more to the story as. Well real, quick

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we've got about about a minute and a, half so

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tell us all about The Power school data. Breach what

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can you get to in about ninety?

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Speaker 3: Seconds, Okay, well last week we sat down with The

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department Of Public. Instruction they held an impromptu virtual press

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conference and told us that The Power school breach that

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occur at the end of late last, year at Which

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Power school said all that data has been taken care,

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Of they've paid the ransom and it's not going to

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show up. Again, well it showed up again and last

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week twenty of our districts received emails from quote threat

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actors asking for bitcoin and other payment methods to get

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the data.

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Speaker 2: Back So Power school hasn't.

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Speaker 3: Said who which district this, is but it evolves the

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same data apparently as the original.

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Speaker 1: Breach So Power school is what a system like an

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operating system or.

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Speaker 3: Something, Yes Power school is the student information data system

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where all the grades are, kept contact, information parent, stuff

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everything is in. There it's a dashboard with it's got

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all the data on a. Kid teachers have profiles in

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there as, well and their their profiles were breached as.

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Well and this thing is used. Statewide it's going to

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be changed. Though they're going through a different system In

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july Called Infinite. Campus So Power school is going. Away

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Power school came in and Under June atkinson through it

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used to be owned By. Pearson pearson sold it off

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and the people they sold it off to sort of

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cobble together an entire district wide statewide system for. Us

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normally it's just one district that'll pick up a news

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Power school here or there in the, state But North

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carolina was the only state at the time who used

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it across all districts in the.

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Speaker 1: State So Power school gets, hacked they get, breached they

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get extorted for, bitcoin they pay off the, ransom and

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then they, think, okay now the extortionists will leave us

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alone and delete all of the, data and, surprise, surprise

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they did not actually delete all of the. Data it

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appears they actually did go ahead and put it out

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on the dark web where others got.

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Speaker 2: It that's what it.

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Speaker 3: Looks, yes, Yes and then The Power school's offering credit

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AND id theft monitoring Through. July they're trying to extend

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that The North Carolina Attorney General's. Office THE doj website

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also has credit monitoring credit freeze options for folks out.

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There and if you go over TO nsg online dot

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com and look under my byline The Power, school just

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my most recent article and all those resources are at the. Bottom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah Ap dylan reporter at The North State journal nsjonline dot,

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com where you can read about The Power school data.

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Breach also Her substeck more to the. Story, ap thanks

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a lot for joining. US i appreciate it. Absolutely, pete all,

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Speaker 2: Com so last.

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Speaker 1: Week we had a New board Of elections installed In

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North Carolina State board Of elections brand new. Members this

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was after The General assembly moved the appointment power away

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from The governor's responsibilities and gave it to the State.

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Auditor the Governor Josh, stein A, democrat and the State

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democrat primaries for like twenty years. Prior so Now Dave

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bullock is appointing the board, members and he did. So

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he Named francis De luca as the new chairman of The.

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Board francis De luca Of. Wilmington he And Bob ruccho

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Of Catawba county are the new. Members Stacy eggers the.

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Speaker 2: Fourth he was on.

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Speaker 1: The board and remains on the. Board all three of

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them Are. Republicans there's now A republican majority on The

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board Of. Elections the two of the Three democrat members

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that were on the board Remain Chavon millen And Jeff,

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carman the former chairman of The board Of elections is

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no longer, There, Okay so that's that was how that

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all went. Down this was based on a ruling by

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The North Carolina court Of appeals that blocked a lower court.

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Ruling Josh stein had sued, saying you can't take these

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powers from. Me the legislature, said, yes we, can because

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they're not specifically designated to, you and so we can

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move them around in the executive branch however we would,

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like and a lower court agreed with the. Governor but

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then The court Of appeals blocked that court ruling and, said,

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no the legislative leaders can do. That the legislature can control.

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That so De luca is now the. Chairman he Replaced

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Democrat Alan hirsch at the first. Meeting and this is

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according to the story at The Carolina journal dot. Com

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the board then went into a closed session meeting for

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just over thirty minutes to discuss legal and personnel, matters

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including the appointment of a new executive. Director the pick

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was decided ahead of time by The republican members of the.

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Board this was made clear because a statement was put

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out by the current executive, director well now Former Karen Brinson,

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bell announcing that the board had decided to go with someone,

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else and she handed out her statement before the meeting.

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Began so she had written up a statement knowing she

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was going to get, canned and she handed it out

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to members of the media and everybody before the. Meeting

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So bell is out and in as the new executive

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director Is Sam. Hayes the new executive. Director hayes is

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currently The general council For North Carolina House Speaker Destin.

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Speaker 2: Hall, okay so he's a.

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Speaker 1: Lawyer he was a lawyer general counsel in The speaker

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of The house's. Office his two year term begins actually On,

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thursday And millan Chon Chevon, Millen, democrat member of the, board,

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SAID i think this is a shabby way to treat

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a nationally admired executive election director and further that the

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recent habit of changing the executive director whenever the composition

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of The Election board changes runs counter to our goal

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to boulder bolster people's faith in fair. Elections, yeah you

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guys did. It this is actually now the. Norm see

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this is WHAT i told. You you're not gonna like

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it when these norms are applied to, you because the

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first time that the executive director was canned for politics

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was when The democrats took over After pat McCrory lost

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To Roy. Cooper And cooper and the board had the

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executive director Then Kim, strack they had her. Fired remember that,

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name say her, Name Kim. Strack in, Fact egger's one

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of the board. MEMBERS A republican board member pointed out

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that there is in fact precedent for changing the executive director, position.

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Speaker 2: Like When Roy cooper did.

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Speaker 1: That i'll have more on that in a. Minute let

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me wrap up This carolin A journal. Story So Karen

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Brinson bell asks the, Chairman francis De, luca, twice if

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she could make some remarks and thank the, staff but

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the Three republicans voted to just adjourn and ended the

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meeting before she. Could she then would read from her

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prepared statement to you know people that just gathered around

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her after the, meeting sort of like a to press,

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conference and she read her statement, there saying it was

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the greatest honor of her life and that she would

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have liked to have continued to serve the county boards

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of elections and the voters Of North carolina in that.

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Capacity so she did not want to. Leave she didn't

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want to be, fired and that's exactly why you don't

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let her make the. Statement trust, ME i know a

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thing or two about getting. FIRED i work in. Radio

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they usually don't let you stick. Around when they fire,

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you they don't put you back on the. Air and

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when the board fires its executive, director they don't let

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you make a statement afterwards in front of, everybody because

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chances are you didn't want to get, fired you. Know she,

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Said i've worked in the elections field at all levels

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over the past nineteen, years and this is a very

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different environment THAT i hope can be restored to the

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civility that once.

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Speaker 2: Existed this, WOMAN i tell you, what it's almost.

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Speaker 1: Like maybe this makes sense if you have amnesia and

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you didn't live through THE covid, election the collusive, settlement

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There's oh, yeah we're gonna go back over. It we'll

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LIFETIME i am very excited to see what changes the

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newly comprised or Constituted board Of elections will be. Doing

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hopefully fingers crossed the super exciting and sexy topic OF lisp. Maintenance,

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hmmm ah, man that's gonna be. Awesome like actually cleaning

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up our voter. Rolls that would be. Fantastic maybe doing

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a little bit of cross check with other, states you,

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know interstate cross.

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Speaker 2: CHECKING i. Know exciting. Times So.

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Speaker 1: Sam hayes is the new executive director And Destin, hall

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The speaker of The, house had previously Employed Sam hayes

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as the general counsel in his office the, lawyer and he,

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Said sam is going to be an excellent executive director

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who will follow the law as passed by The General.

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Assembly as my general Counsel sam has demonstrated exceptional, judgment,

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professionalism and a deep commitment to public. SERVICE i am

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confident that his leadership will serve the citizens of our

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state with fairness and. Integrity, now the woman That sam is,

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Replacing Karen Brinson. Bell she told reporters after the meeting

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that she has been very fortunate to work With Sam

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hayes and knows that he is knowledgeable about election, law

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but with all of the lawsuits and such that he's

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had to litigate as a general, counsel she, SAYS i

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hope that that will serve him. Well it is, unfortunate,

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though that they have taken a path where the individual

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does not have practical election administration. Experience But i'm confident

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that if he will work closely with the state board,

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staff that he has some, incredible incredibly knowledgeable and dedicated

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people who will see that we are handling elections. Well

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so there's a little bit of a backhanded compliment, there.

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OH i hope that his experience serves him. Well but you,

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know he's never run an election because she was an

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election executive director at the county level Before democrats elevated

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her after they had to replace a couple of other

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executive directors who had some, scandals but whatever doesn't. Matter

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point is she had the experience and he does. It

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AND i hope that he just relies on all The

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democrat staffers. There, No i'm, kidding they're. Nonpartisan i'm sure

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Now Karen Brinson belle is. Out but let's walk down memory.

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Lane the year was twenty. Nineteen the executive director of

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the State board Of elections was a woman by the

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name Of Kimberly strack Strch, strack and she was doing

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a good job and then she got. Fired she helped

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to guide The board Of elections through the minefield of

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the Ninth Congressional district election fraud. Scandal she had offered

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strong suggestions to lawmakers about preventing future, fraud and some

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of those recommendations actually became part of a truly Bipartisan

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North Carolina house. Bill so why did she get? Fired

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because she wasn't A democrat and The board Of elections

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became Majority democrat After pat McCrory lost To Roy. Cooper

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the firing happened at a meeting that Told North carolina

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voters all the wrong things about the people in charge

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of their. Elections it told them that party, matters not.

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Fairness it told them that politics, rule not. Effectiveness, strack

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who has led the board since twenty, thirteen was replaced

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By Democrat Karen Brinson bell in a three to two

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vote that split along party. Lines Why, well the board

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chair at the, Time Robert, cordle explained unconvincingly That Brinson

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bell's background fit the board's need to focus on training

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local election officials for the twenty twenty, election something that

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surely brought a smirk to the many veteran local election

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directors across the. State this was The Charlotte observer Editorial.

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Board The Charlotte Observer Editorial board even they could identify

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the quote ugly double standard Regarding Kim. Strack Kim strack

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was an investigator at The board Of, elections and When

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pat McCrory became, governor he elevated her to run the.

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Show she was doing a good job.

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Speaker 2: And she went.

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Speaker 1: In but here's the, Thing democrats didn't like her because

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she was an. Investig if memory serves, correctly she was

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the one that went After.

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Speaker 2: Believe it Was Mike, Easley Jim black.

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Speaker 1: Right she had a few high Profile democrat. Scalps she

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had Some republicans, too but that didn't. Matter and so

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the board chair, says we need somebody to train the

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local elections. Officials our local election official In Mecklemburg County Michael.

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Dickerson he's been doing this for thirty. YEARS i have

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no doubt.

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Speaker 2: That that.

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Speaker 1: He does not Need Karen Brinson bell's. Training like the

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guy knows what he's. Doing now back to The Charlotte

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observer editorial from twenty, nineteen a more persuasive argument might

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have been, simply these are the spoils of. Winning right

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when you, win you get to name your. People that

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would have been. Honest, Instead democrats launched an ugly attempt

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at character. Assassination he had The North Carolina Democrat Party

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Chair Wayne, goodwin does that name Ring A?

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Speaker 2: Belle it.

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Speaker 1: Should Wayne goodwin has been in charge of the colossal

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and epic failure that is OUR. Dmv right now he

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is stepping, aside but at the, time six years, ago

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he was the chair of The Democrat party Of North,

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carolina and he Accused Kim strack of Protecting republicans for

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nearly two.

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Speaker 2: Decades his, words she's.

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Speaker 1: Unaffiliated the reality is That strack and the board under

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her have vigorously pursued Both democrats And, republicans most recently

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when she Resisted coles to Leave Mark harris.

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Speaker 2: Alone in the ninth.

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Speaker 1: District Even Cordal Robert, cordle the board Chair, democrat said

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That strack had done it an excellent job for the.

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State among her, offenses according To Wayne, goodwin the big

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one her Husband phil see Phil strack is an, attorney

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And Phil strack regularly represents The republican led legislature in court,

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battles and some of those court battles involved election law.

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Issues but that's one of the reasons Why Kim strack

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had to. Go she had claimed too Many democrat scalps

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as an investigator uncovering, wrongdoing and she's married to a

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lawyer who represents the, evil Mean republican. Lawmakers strack did

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her job the way any party should want it. Done

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Phil strack, right he's representing his. Clients The observer editorial,

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concluded if there was ever a moment not to reply

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an elections director because of, party it was. Now The

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democrats did so, anyway and they justified it in the

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worst possible. Way it was unseemly and. Hypocritical it was

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politics that ushered Into Karen brinson Bell.

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Speaker 2: Era what did she? Do we'll go over that.

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Speaker 1: Next all, right if you're listening to this, show you

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KNOW i try to keep up with all sorts of current,

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events AND i know you do, Too and you've probably

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heard me say get your news from multiple. Sources Why,

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well because it's how you detect media, bias which is

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Why i've been so impressed with Ground. News it's an,

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app and it's a, website and it combines news from

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around the world in one place so you can compare

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Transparent So Karen Brinson bell's term as executive director of

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The State board Of elections is.

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Speaker 2: Over, huzzah.

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Speaker 1: Huzza her tenure was not without, criticism according to The

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North State journal piece by Ap dylan that we interviewed

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earlier in the, program but not about, this but she,

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Wrote Brinson bell's tenure wasn't without. CRITICISM a secret legal

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Agreement Brinson bell entered into during the twenty twenty election

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cycle with former go To Democrat party Attorney Mark elias

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involved elections, changes some of which changed rules after voting had,

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begun which is a violation of The Percel protocol, basically

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which is a presidential case that says you don't change

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the rules of an election during the election because it's

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too confusing for. Voters it creates administrative, burdens right you

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just not even during, elections even like in the run

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up to the election. Period like judges generally do not

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like changing rules when it comes to elections in a you,

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know the months preceding an, election and we saw changes

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after the early voting had already. Begun Brinson bell in

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the agreement became the subject of a twenty twenty One

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Senate redistricting And Election committee, hearing and a federal judge

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later ruled that some of the changes violated equal protection. Laws,

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now if you weren't here in twenty, twenty you were

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probably locked down in some, state or you were living

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free or in a state that did not lock. Down

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we got locked, down And Karen Brinson bell had gone

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to the legislature and demanded changes to the, rules and

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the legislature, said, no you're not going to do those

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changes on your. Own we will make some changes that we,

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think as the legislature we think or, needed and they

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did so they made some, changes but they didn't make

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all of. Them so then she tried to go through

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this other commission or something to try to get the changes.

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Made that, way she got blocked, there and then some

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left wing groups sued coincidentally to enact the very changes

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that she wanted. Changed the lawsuit named the State board Of.

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Elections The Attorney general's office then defended the state that

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would Be Josh stein's, Office and so you've got The

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board Of elections controlled By democrats appointed by The democrat

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governor you've got The attorney General, democrat and you've got

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the plaintiffs in the case that are All democrat. Aligned,

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now the legislature was also part of the lawsuit as a,

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defendant but they were not included in the settlement. Agreement

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so all of The democrat aligned groups and agencies and,

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lawyers they all get together and they enter into a,

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settlement an agreement to make the litigation go away by

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basically doing everything That Karen Brinson bell wanted done and

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the plaintiffs that sued her wanted, done over the objections

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of the legislative, defendants who were not even apprized of

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any potential. Settlement this is why they called it a collusive.

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Agreement does this sound? Familiar does this sound strikingly similar

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to the very thing that we are seeing with our

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state or city council rather In charlotte with the payout

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to the police. Chief this collusive agreement.

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Speaker 2: In twenty.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen this is from The Blue Ridge, Times Tim. Wyginton

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in twenty, nineteen control of The State board Of elections

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was seized by The. Democrats they Fired Kim. Strack AS i,

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Mentioned Karen Brinson bell then led the State board into

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the collusive settlement with progressive groups and then lied to

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The General assembly about it in twenty twenty. Two by

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the way that she did lie to, them they tried to, say,

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OH i didn't change any of the, rules but she.

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Did and they're, like you've changed the. Rules like you're

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saying you didn't change the, rules but here are the

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rules that you just. Changed in twenty twenty, two under her,

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leadership The North Carolina State board Of elections denied ballot

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access to progressive groups in a bid to Help Democrat

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Sherry beasley in Her senate, campaign in a move that

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was later overturned by a federal. Judge, right they tried

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to block ballot access for The Green party, candidate and

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the was A justice For All Cornell west. Right they

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tried to block their ballot access because they didn't want

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them to siphon votes away From Sherry. Beasley in twenty twenty,

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four The Fair Election, fund a nonpartisan, group released a

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report that highlighted serious issues with election administration In North,

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carolina particularly in regard to voter registration list. Maintenance so,

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YES i am happy that The Karen brinston bell era

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or error is over.

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Speaker 2: All, right that'll do it for this. Episode thank you

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so much for.

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anything While i'm.

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Speaker 4: Gone

