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a former Byu Cougar quarterback to break down his thoughts

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on this rivalry game. Coming up here momentarily, but let

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me level set for you. Byu is not a favorite

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in this game. Vegas kay has Utah is a three

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and a half point favorite. The over under a set

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at forty nine and a half. It's a kickoff of

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six pm on Box Big Noon Kickoff was here earlier

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today to feature the rivalry game. This is a rivalry

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game unlike any other, and I think the nation is

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being put on notice as to the volatility and the

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violence that occurs in this game in between fans and

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in between the lines on the gridiron. It's a sold

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out crowd tonight, over sixty four thousand strong will converge

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on Lavell Edwards Stadium and it's gonna be glorious.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham is eleven and five in this rivalry game. Okay,

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he has dominated this rivalry game. I think his legacy

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is built off of this rivalry games, and he has

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lost two straight now. In this rivalry game, which Kilani

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is a big part of. BYU under Kalani is two

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to four in the rivalry game. ESPN Analytics giving BYU

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a slight favorite in this game. Is a slight favorite

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in this game fifty one percent chance of victory, hopefully

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for the Cougars. The injury report Marcus McKenzie on BYU side,

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Jojo Phillips, Shay Bryan Strascioni Moa, Tommy Prash's Raider de Mooney,

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and Nissi Percell all may not be playing.

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Speaker 3: ANISI is probable, though.

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Speaker 1: The Utah injury report Rabbit Evans, Nate Richie, Dadrid Zipper Hunter, Andrews,

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Josh Sovereign, Paul Fitzgerald, Gradium Morecco, and Isaiah Garcia all

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out this game. Okay, so that's your level set for

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all you Cougar fans and Cougar country. Let's welcome in

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Steve Klements, former b YU quarterback, to break down this game.

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Speaker 3: Steve, how that g are you, buddy?

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Speaker 2: I'm good man, How are you good?

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Speaker 3: Which game?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: It must intrigued by thus far in the college football world.

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Speaker 2: I'm locked into the I've been locked into this one

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since the day after we won. We beat them up

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there last year, so oh yeah, I'm locked into this one. Dude, Dude,

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Speaker 3: It's a great game.

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Speaker 1: Uh BYU is one of eleven FBS teams remaining that

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are still undefeated. Okay, they were fantastic last year, they're

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fantastic this year.

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Speaker 3: Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: UH is currently playing ASU. They may fall to UH

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to ASU today. We'll see how that plays out. College

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football cannibalism at it's finest. But how do you see

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this game playing out today under the lights of level

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by U versus Utah Steep?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, probably just like anyone else, it's gonna

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be it'll be close. It's you know, if you look

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run out of the clock and we went twenty three

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twenty one. But I will say this, I wouldn't be

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surprised if because of our defense and I don't think

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offensively they're not the greatest offensive team, I could see

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us winning by ten to eleven points, double digits. I

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Speaker 3: Nine and a half?

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Speaker 2: I think it'll be under that, I think, but it's

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gonna be fun. I remember a couple of years ago

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Speaker 3: Was like forty nine and a half. Everyone's picking the

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Speaker 1: But it opened at forty seven and a half at

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a lot of betters out there, and that's what Vegas

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is in the game of betting. Sure, they're picking the

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over at forty seven and a half in the opening

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what do they know that we don't know?

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get hot. We get hot in the second half, we

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get hot in the second quarter, and we string on

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you know, a couple of touchdowns or ten points in

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a row. Well, we get a turnover and capitalize on it,

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whether it's pick six or scoop and school or something

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like that, and then we capitalize offensively. I wouldn't be surprised.

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my friends all the time. I'm telling you, you know,

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you have Kyle Field down Texas A and M, and

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then you have the hedges, and you have you know,

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football in the South, which is the predominant religion now there.

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there's only sixty five, sixty six, sixty seven thousand people,

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but it sounds like one hundred and sixty seven thousand people.

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I remember a couple of years ago the only time,

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and I've told my kids that are with me and

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my wife, I said, look, this is what's gonna happen.

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Don't You'll know when it's halftime, when you sit down,

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna stand up the whole time. You have been yelling,

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screaming the whole time. And it's just it's a great

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atmosphere and it's a great rivalry. And you know what

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if it's a little bit nasty. You know, I'm still

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old school. I think it's I think it's fine, Like

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as long as we don't get personal or religious, dude,

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it's it's fine.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, I'm looking forward to it. I'm

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jacked up.

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Speaker 1: You know. I've always said the f B yu chance,

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I'm perfectly fine.

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Speaker 3: We just don't die.

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Speaker 1: Don't convert it into the a religious thing. But that's

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what I said, which happened.

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Speaker 2: Heard that last year.

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Speaker 1: The rivalry gave to me in in many regard is

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church versus state. We call it the holy war for

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a reason because there's a religious aspect.

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Speaker 3: How about church versus state. There's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: It's secularism, you know, the state school versus the private

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Speaker 2: Sure, but it's only church state because of the private

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religious Because goodness gracious. Yeah, there's probably a lot more

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missionaries to come from Yu than Utah. But they have

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their fair share. They got their fair share of latter

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day station at the school up north. We'll call it. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, BYU is ranked, Utah is ranked. This is only

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the fourth time in Holy War history that both teams

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Speaker 3: They are competing for.

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Speaker 1: This is somewhat a playing game for the Big twelve championship.

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Is this the biggest rivalry game in BYU Utah history?

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Speaker 2: I think it's got to be right up there because

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of what you just stated, and I think with and

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team up north. You know, yeah, it's way bigger than that.

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that now you're going to get into the top fifteen,

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of the two wins. And you're right there in discussion

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with everybody else the Ohio States and Indiana's which is insane,

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Speaker 3: As a football school man. It's a crazy year or two.

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Speaker 2: But but yeah, I think you know, the focus is

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going to be there's such more of a bigger picture

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they've done this, they understand and the team, both teams

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Speaker 1: So Steve, you got you were You were thrown under

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the bus a bit on social media, and it's our

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fault here at ESPN the fan in fault camp. I'll

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take the blame fault camp. You hopped onto our show.

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You had just been down at BYU's practice and we

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were talking about Bear Bachmeyer and you said, look, bear

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Bachmeyer reminds me of a better throwing, more accurate Tim Tebow.

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oh my gosh, I can't believe Steve Klements would say that, okay,

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bear Bachmeyer for the last six seven weeks, AND's like,

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is looking like Tim Tebow.

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Speaker 3: Check this out, Brady Quinn.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Brady Quinn's a part of Big Neon Kickoff. Brady,

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when one of the best college football quarterbacks over the

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last thirty years played in the NFL. This is what

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I mean, bart just got here what he and it's

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Speaker 3: I'm not hearing that you're trying to manage class. I

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don't hear it. Okay, we'll get it, we'll get it

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dialed in. But you know where I'm getting with this.

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You know where I'm going with this.

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Speaker 2: Sure, and and and I completely understand the team up

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I wasn't saying Obviously, I wasn't saying he's he should

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be up for the Heisman trophy, wasn't It wasn't the team.

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It was just on the field performance and their styles

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go out there gonna because Tim Tebow, why he's he's

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a trophy let her and I'm I mean, he threw

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it fifty times. What does he know? I've been around

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the game a little bit, and so like, uh.

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Speaker 1: Sean Clements wasn't all American, all American ladies and gentleman, and.

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Speaker 2: So I get that, but yeah, I'm sticking to it.

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Speaker 3: A right handed Tim Tebow.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing that that worries me in this,

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sustain the hits that he's in heavily gonna take not

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from a Portland state, I mean, but you see.

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Speaker 3: His lower happiness. He's built like a centaur, just like just.

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Speaker 2: LJ freaking garbage dumpster. You know, holy crap, dude. Anyway, Yeah,

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the six twenty No, no, I don't know. No, maybe

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his sophomore year in high school. While he's two twenty, but.

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Speaker 1: The last time he was twenty was his sophomore season

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in high school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Thattman is not two hundred and twenty pounds.

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Speaker 1: He's two thirty five, but he's almost two forty.

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Speaker 2: He's fun to watch, and I'm glad that that a

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Rod has enough in the pantries where he can go, Okay,

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I've got bear, so I can take this out of

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the pantry and cook this type of meal based on

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the talent that he has here in Provo, and so

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he's been able to do that very successfully. Yep, we're

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we haven't played. I mean, it's been red velvet cupcakes.

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It's been chocolate chip cupcakes the first five or so game.

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I get all that, but you know, at the end

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of the day, you have to run the ball, you

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have to play good defense, and you got to have

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a solid special team. You really do. I mean, yeah,

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Mike Leach was great, but he never won the big

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games because all they did was throw the ball. All

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he did was you don't throw the ball, and they

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struggled in the big games. And you have to be

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able to run the ball in these big games, especially

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these rivalry games. And it's just it's something that you know,

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both teams have a good running attack. I mean, I

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think Utah's ranked first in the conference b all you

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might be second or second and third or something like that.

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And you look at the tail of the tape and

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they're very evenly matched as far as the running game.

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But it's important. I mean, winning hands their top fifteen

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program every freaking year because they play great defense and

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they control the ball on offense by running the football

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and the recipe works. And that's now what BYU's doing.

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The freshman quarterback and they put him in a position.

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They don't think he he has to do everything to

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win the game.

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about the management part, like the game management.

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Get a carterway. He's just a game manager. Okay, so

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what does he win? I don't really care if he

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managed it? What does that mean? Okay? Good, that's fine. Good, Yes,

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manages the game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Look, he had to run the ball twenty two

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times versus U of A in order to win. Now

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that is an outlier is a wet game, as a

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wild one down in Tucson with a store and delay,

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they end up they end up running him twenty two times,

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and fifteen of those came in the fourth quarter and

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ot to.

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Speaker 3: Win the game.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to run the ball with your quarterback

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to win football games.

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Speaker 3: You do.

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Speaker 2: And then the day they won the game, yep, did

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you win? Did you lose? And if you win, being

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a coach, former coach, you win. It's a player's fault.

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You lose. His coach is wrong, you know. And so

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and they won, and yeah, everybody's gonna say, oh, that's

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because of bearing, because of the Well.

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Speaker 3: Check these stats out real quick.

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Speaker 1: So ESPN SP plus SP plus is a predictive efficiency rating,

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Okay that I leaning to. I think it's an accurate

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depiction of who these teams are overall thus far this season,

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Utah sixteenth in the country per SP plus, BYU's twenty third. Okay,

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but look at how the ratings play out. Utah's thirty

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third in offense, six in defense, and then.

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Speaker 3: Forty eighth in special teams.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you got thirty three six and forty eight

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BYU is fortieth on offense fifteenth on defense and six

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on special teams. Last year, BYU won on a kickoff

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return in a game winning field goal.

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Speaker 3: They're special teams in it.

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Speaker 1: Traditionally in this rivalry under Kyle Wittingham, you could say

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that there were a couple things trench warfare. They won

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the trench back, but then they also won special teams.

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We're seeing an inverse. Now b YU is competitive in

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the trench warfare game. They may be just as good

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in the trench warfare game, and their special teams unit's

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better than Utah's. I think that's the that's the change

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in the rivalry, even though they're very congluent, symmetric almost

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in statistics this season, Like, that's where b Y is

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better or at least equivalent and could have an edge

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in this competition tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why they say you have to be

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really good in all three phases.

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Speaker 3: Not just.

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Speaker 1: But we but we tend to focus on offense or

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defense and never we neglect the special teams.

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Speaker 2: Well, sure we do, because that's the sexy thing to

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look at. It's offense or defense or special team like

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kickers and you know they're weird and you know all

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that stuff. But my gosh, they they win games, and

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they're they're they're only famous or infamous. There's no middle ground.

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Yes for kickers, you know, they're the goat or the hero,

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you know, and not goat in a good sounds getting

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a goat in a bad tens. But but yeah, it's

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gonna come down to that. You're right, it's gonna come

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down to that here in a couple hours.

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Speaker 3: Well, kickoff here in the next couple hours.

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Speaker 1: It's four forty one here along the lost at front

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BYU fans, Utah fans converging on Lavelle Edwards Stadium. It's

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a sold out crowd and it's gonna be a lively

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when we need the twelfth Man to show up. How

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disruptive do you think the Royal Army and the roar

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of the Cougars will be at Levelle Edwards Stadium tonight?

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Do we see some false starts? Do we see a

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little bit of disruption in that communication between Devin dan Pierre.

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Much is made of Bear Bachmeyer playing in this first

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rivalry game. What about Devin Dampierre. He's never played in

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an environment like this, He's never played on the road

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versus a rival sixty five thousand fans strong yelling at them.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and people don't talk about that. You talk about

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the home team, and they're the ones that have the pressure.

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Bear has all the pressure because he's the freshman and

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he's never dealt with this robbery game before. But you

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know what, none of these kids, I said kids because

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I'm old, but none of these kids have experienced a

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robbery where they're both ranked. They weren't both ranked last

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year when we played each other, you know. So it

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could be said that everybody this is their first experience

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in this game, in this situation with the States as

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high as they are, not just in the conference, but

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on the national on the national setting, in the national

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picture of CFP and the playoffs. So I think that's

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a wash. You know, you're gonna have to rely on

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your your training, But yeah, I think there will be disruption.

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There better be some freaking disruption on the on the

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other sidelines.

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Speaker 1: Steve Clement's former by U quarterback shiming in and pontificating

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on our airwaves. Great to catch up with you. It

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sounds like you're you're predicting a BYU. W. It's gonna

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be a close one, And I appreciate.

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Speaker 3: You joining me today.

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