Speaker 1: It's time for coffee and company.
Speaker 2: Fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety Holy crap,
Speaker 2: I don't know who.
Speaker 1: The hell we think when we are get off our show, idiot.
Speaker 3: The kids are playing or tail off.
Speaker 1: The countries are screwing it up.
Speaker 2: Gold play Inner Murals, Brother, Goldplay Inner Murals.
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.
Speaker 1: Who's the kid here?
Speaker 2: Who's the kid here?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick coffee?
Speaker 4: So I try each and every day to get something
Speaker 4: up on Twitter X. By the way, I am now
Speaker 4: noticing that when I think of said platform that used
Speaker 4: to be called Twitter now called X. I once claimed
Speaker 4: that I would never ever call it X and it
Speaker 4: would always be Twitter to me, and that's been the
Speaker 4: case for the most part. But I have noticed recently
Speaker 4: that I am I slip up and almost say X,
Speaker 4: which I guess maybe I should just cave and accept
Speaker 4: that it is in fact called something different now. But
Speaker 4: each day I try to put something out right when
Speaker 4: we start the show or right before the show, just
Speaker 4: to let people know, Hey, we're here, don't forget about us.
Speaker 4: The show is about to start. At showtime, join in.
Speaker 4: You're missing out if you're not with us. And what
Speaker 4: should I say today? I was gonna say, let's ride,
Speaker 4: it's time, let's go, Like, but those are you know,
Speaker 4: that's not those are getting a little stale?
Speaker 5: You got anything for me that I could throw out
Speaker 5: there to like say, hey.
Speaker 6: I've always been a writer, so like I feel like
Speaker 6: I would just wear that out as much as I could.
Speaker 6: But I mean, what other what do you call me?
Speaker 6: What other words?
Speaker 5: How about let's get it on, Let's get it on?
Speaker 3: Can we do that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's vibe.
Speaker 6: Let's vibe is good, Let's get it on. I like
Speaker 6: it either way that that goes.
Speaker 5: This one, I feel like it was. This one is
Speaker 5: let's roll, man, let's rock and roll. Rock and Roll's fine.
Speaker 3: That seems a.
Speaker 5: Little bit older though.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: At one point I was saying at one point, I
Speaker 4: was saying, allow me to enter your ears?
Speaker 5: Is that okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, I mean that sounds almost like I'm invading there.
Speaker 4: The only part to enter personal space. I mean, all
Speaker 4: I can do is invade the ears. That's what this
Speaker 4: is radio. I mean, you know, I'm when it comes
Speaker 4: to this, that's all we have.
Speaker 3: I mean a drink first.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's usually how it works. But again
Speaker 4: it's just radio. So uh, I'm just gonna roll. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna roll with uh. Let's get it on and then
Speaker 4: we'll we'll mix it up tomorrow and maybe in fact
Speaker 4: that that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 5: I'm giving you some homework.
Speaker 3: We got two words for you. Let's roll.
Speaker 4: I got some homework for you tomorrow when we start
Speaker 4: the show. You you will you know, it's not like
Speaker 4: you gotta you know, it's no there's no pass or fail.
Speaker 4: It's just you think of something that we didn't throw
Speaker 4: out there today. That will be the tweet tomorrow to
Speaker 4: let everybody on the the world Wide Web know that
Speaker 4: we're here and it's time for coffee and company.
Speaker 3: You think you can do that, Yeah, I can do that,
Speaker 3: all right?
Speaker 4: The tweets. Let's go at the card connection. And then
Speaker 4: the reason I hate calling it X is because are
Speaker 4: you calling it X posts now?
Speaker 5: Because I think Twitter is actually a really stupid name.
Speaker 4: But it but it's been Twitter forever, or at least
Speaker 4: it was until Elon Musk bought it. And what made
Speaker 4: it unique is that your content that you post, it's
Speaker 4: a tweet you can have a tweet with no video
Speaker 4: and just text or a picture, so that that was
Speaker 4: different like Facebook posts, Instagram posts.
Speaker 5: Like Twitter had tweets, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So like I just thought that made it kind of
Speaker 4: unique and cool and I don't know what so I
Speaker 4: still say, hey, did you see my tweet?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 5: Like you just you got to have a uniform brand here,
Speaker 5: and X clearly is is everywhere now.
Speaker 6: I guess they are rolling with posts because when you
Speaker 6: if I remember right when it was Twitter press, when
Speaker 6: you used to press a.
Speaker 3: Button, did it say tweet?
Speaker 5: It said tweets?
Speaker 6: Okay, Now, now even when you Google, if you were
Speaker 6: to go to Google right now the top of your U
Speaker 6: r L screen and just type in Twitter, it automatically
Speaker 6: just leads you to X.
Speaker 3: Anyways.
Speaker 6: It doesn't go like this page is broken or this
Speaker 6: link is so like I'm in the same boat as you.
Speaker 6: For the longest time, I have failed, and I've refused
Speaker 6: to call it X.
Speaker 3: I've slipped up every now and then and called it that,
Speaker 3: but I still call it Twitter.
Speaker 4: It's probably it's probably gonna always be a little bit
Speaker 4: of both, because I think even the people who have
Speaker 4: gone with X and now reference it as that. When
Speaker 4: they talk about posting something they call it a tweet. Still, sure,
Speaker 4: and I don't know if you ever, I don't know
Speaker 4: if you're ever gonna get away with that, but.
Speaker 6: People are always going to say, hey, did you see
Speaker 6: that tweeked? Did you see what blank tweeted?
Speaker 3: Not what?
Speaker 6: And I've always even on my radio show when I
Speaker 6: try to tell people my other radio show WAMZ, when
Speaker 6: I tell people to try to engage with us, it's
Speaker 6: still kind of you know, because we do have all
Speaker 6: social media accounts, but like, what do you even say,
Speaker 6: like find us on X or like x us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or like X is just weird? I mean again,
Speaker 4: I remember whenever it's kind of naughty. I remember when
Speaker 4: when it changed. I remember thinking to myself, like, this
Speaker 4: is really stupid just to call it X. But then again,
Speaker 4: I've always felt like Twitter is a lame name for
Speaker 4: a for a social media platform, but that's what it
Speaker 4: had always been up up until that time. So when
Speaker 4: it comes to you know, the I mean I'm trying
Speaker 4: to and sorry, I'm flustered here because I'm trying to
Speaker 4: refresh something because there were.
Speaker 5: Won't yeah here here's what it was.
Speaker 4: Sorry, At one point, Facebook went through something that I
Speaker 4: was wrong about. I remember seeing that that Facebook was
Speaker 4: going to be meta or meta Do you remember that, Yes,
Speaker 4: that we're.
Speaker 3: Going to completely switch it into matter.
Speaker 4: So apparently meta is part of Facebook. But like they
Speaker 4: didn't change the name of like the brand. Like some
Speaker 4: some things in brands are so big that that even
Speaker 4: if like if you were somebody that was going to
Speaker 4: buy Facebook from Zuck That's who owns it, right.
Speaker 5: Zuck, you you would You'd be a fool to you.
Speaker 4: It would lose a ton of value if you rebranded
Speaker 4: it and called it something different and like change the logo.
Speaker 4: So to be fair with Elon Musk when when he
Speaker 4: bought Twitter, it wasn't exactly in I mean, Twitter is
Speaker 4: not Facebook by any means. Twitter is Twitter slash x
Speaker 4: A is one of the popular social media platforms out there,
Speaker 4: but it's not anywhere close to Facebook. It's not anywhere
Speaker 4: close to Instagram, certainly not anywhere close to TikTok, at
Speaker 4: least for now. So a rebrand, I guess made a
Speaker 4: little more sense. But I would have gone with something
Speaker 4: different than than x.
Speaker 5: But here we are. How long has he owned it now?
Speaker 5: It's been at least a couple of years, hadn't.
Speaker 3: I think only a here? Right? Is it like it's
Speaker 3: been longer X?
Speaker 5: I don't know. Let me look it up now Twitter
Speaker 5: becomes X. This this happened in.
Speaker 4: July of twenty twenty three, so about a year and
Speaker 4: a half. Okay, roughly so still fairly recent.
Speaker 5: That's right, Let's dive in. Let's get this show started.
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Speaker 4: up until six o'clock, and there's a lot to get into.
Speaker 4: I know, the vibes around here for Louisville basketball still
Speaker 4: at a really high level. We talked a lot about
Speaker 4: yesterday and really just how this team's on a roll,
Speaker 4: kind of recapping that big win on the road at Syracuse.
Speaker 4: And I'm starting to feel something that I haven't felt
Speaker 4: in a long time, and that is anger for teams
Speaker 4: that you need to like not suck. And Louisville can't
Speaker 4: control it now, right, But like the team, there's certain
Speaker 4: teams that are on Louisville's schedule, and in fact, everybody
Speaker 4: on your schedule in the Grand Scheme of things. You
Speaker 4: want to be good because if you beat them, then men,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of value if it's a good team,
Speaker 4: and if you lose to them, it's not as big
Speaker 4: of a deal if because they're a good teams. So
Speaker 4: really you want everybody on your schedule to be good.
Speaker 4: But right now, I mean, you've got Pittsburgh, who I
Speaker 4: feel like Pittsburgh is a really good team still. I mean,
Speaker 4: I felt like, even though you know, you know, Louisville
Speaker 4: beat them, and clearly Louisll's playing pretty good basketball right now,
Speaker 4: But like I believe, Pittsburgh wasn't just good because the AC.
Speaker 4: I feel like Pittsburgh wasn't just good for the for
Speaker 4: the weak ACC. This year, I felt like they were
Speaker 4: actually pretty good team and I still kind of believe that.
Speaker 4: But for them to now have lost three in a row.
Speaker 4: They didn't bounce back after the Louisville win. They went
Speaker 4: on the road and lost to Florida State, who is
Speaker 4: you know, right now sixty one in the kin Palm.
Speaker 5: So I guess that makes so what this does?
Speaker 4: I guess in a way, now that I think about it,
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh would have to fall out of the top seventy
Speaker 4: five for that to not be a quad one win,
Speaker 4: and that seems very very unlikely, and Florida State would
Speaker 4: have to fall out of the top seventy five for
Speaker 4: that to not be a quad one win. So Pitt
Speaker 4: was already in a good spot to where their loss
Speaker 4: it doesn't drop them too much. They're still in the thirties,
Speaker 4: still very safely a quad one win right now. And
Speaker 4: then with Florida State because they beat Pitt, they jumped
Speaker 4: up significantly, so now they've got a little more breathing room.
Speaker 4: So I guess in a way, if we're looking at
Speaker 4: just stacking these quad one quad two wins, maybe that
Speaker 4: was a good thing last night. But I think the
Speaker 4: reality is this, there's not going to be like we
Speaker 4: can call them quad one and they are like for
Speaker 4: they and they matter, but not all quad ones are
Speaker 4: going to be viewed the exact same way by the committee.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think they look at your quad win
Speaker 4: quad two record, but they also use their brain, use
Speaker 4: common sense, and understand that if you beat somebody on
Speaker 4: the road that's in the top five, and you beat
Speaker 4: somebody on the road that's ranked sixty eight, those two
Speaker 4: wins are not the same, Like that's just common sense.
Speaker 4: So the reality is this, there's not a Let me
Speaker 4: ask you this, Austin, what do you think sounds more impressive,
Speaker 4: more significant a signature win or a resume win? Because
Speaker 4: I kind of feel like they're the same. But maybe
Speaker 4: I'm wrong When I say signature win, I feel like
Speaker 4: that sounds a little better than a resume win.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, sure, I mean.
Speaker 4: Resume wins mean. Resume win means that it's something that
Speaker 4: helps you. I think a signature win means like that's
Speaker 4: big time.
Speaker 6: Like Louisville beating Clemson in football, that's a signature win.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, not a resume win.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I would I would probably go for I
Speaker 6: feel like signature does more for the program, Like you
Speaker 6: haven't beaten Duke at home by like twenty points or something.
Speaker 3: That's a signature win.
Speaker 6: And like just beating a top ten team on the road,
Speaker 6: it could be anybody.
Speaker 3: That's a resume win.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And the reason I bring this up is because I
Speaker 4: think that the Pittsburgh win on the road is a
Speaker 4: good win. And again, pitt would have to really kind
Speaker 4: of fall apart for that not to be a quad one.
Speaker 4: But I think right now, there's not any wins in
Speaker 4: the ACC that I think you could really qualify as
Speaker 4: like a signature win unless somebody beats Duke, and I'm
Speaker 4: not sure that's happening. I mean, and I mean I'm
Speaker 4: not bringing it up to just bitch and moan about it.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's been happening for three straight years. The
Speaker 4: league just continuing to fall, and as I've said throughout
Speaker 4: the summer and this season, it's something Louisville One can't control,
Speaker 4: and also they could take advantage of. But if you
Speaker 4: look at Lenardi and where he put out a bracketology update,
Speaker 4: I believe it was either this morning or last night,
Speaker 4: and he has he has, and this is what I
Speaker 4: actually like looking at more so than just his bracket
Speaker 4: is the seed lists and the overall seeds. So right
Speaker 4: now Leonardi has the ACC with Really, would you say
Speaker 4: an eight to nine seed is a bubble team? I
Speaker 4: feel like that is. I feel like, if you're at
Speaker 4: eight nine, you're in, but you're still like you're select. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're a little close for comfort. And if there wasn't
Speaker 4: the play in games like they're currently is now, eight
Speaker 4: and nine is definitely bubble. So it's it's it's bubble.
Speaker 4: So right now, Duke is the only team firmly in
Speaker 4: the tournament. Louisville is a seventh seed according to Leonardi,
Speaker 4: and I think that's firmly in now, but like you
Speaker 4: could fall apart and not make it. With that said,
Speaker 4: Louisville has already played the best teams in the ACC. Again,
Speaker 4: make your jokes if you like, but like they've already
Speaker 4: got the they already got the hard part out of
Speaker 4: the way, and they're they're in great shape. So they
Speaker 4: may slip up and loose to somebody. But the scenario
Speaker 4: where Louisville the rest of the way significantly drops from
Speaker 4: where they are right now, as far as these projections
Speaker 4: from March for March, I mean, it's really unlikely.
Speaker 5: So I think right now.
Speaker 4: Louisville and Duke are the only two teams that are
Speaker 4: like safely in the tournament because the other teams that
Speaker 4: Leonardi has in from the ACC, Clemson's an eight seed,
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh's a nine seed, and I think Pitt's nine seed
Speaker 4: might have been yeah, Pitts nine seed was before they
Speaker 4: lost to Florida State last night. And then Carolina is
Speaker 4: also a non seed and then you've got SMU in
Speaker 4: the next four out, So they're not in and not
Speaker 4: even in the first four out. Wake Forest is in
Speaker 4: the considered meeting. I guess they're still alive, but they
Speaker 4: got a lot of work to do if they even
Speaker 4: want to get on the bubble. So again, take advantage
Speaker 4: of it, right, I mean, it's not ideal, but the
Speaker 4: fact that they were able to get through Clemson, Carolina Pittsburgh,
Speaker 4: I mean that's huge, that's huge. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: pitt may have fallen out, Like what if the ACC
Speaker 4: only gets two teams in man, Like, that's crazy to
Speaker 4: think about, but it's also somewhat of a possibility. Like
Speaker 4: last night North Carolina State lost at Virginia Tech Virginia
Speaker 4: Tech stakes. So I mean, again, it's it's something we've
Speaker 4: been well aware of and in fact, we talked about
Speaker 4: it a lot.
Speaker 3: But just only for the ACC. You think only to
Speaker 3: get two teams, Oh.
Speaker 5: It's possible, for sure. I mean it's absolutely possible.
Speaker 4: Because right now, right now, because here's the issue, you're
Speaker 4: if you were one of these teams, Clemson, Pittsburgh, North Carolina, SMU,
Speaker 4: you have no real opportunity to get a big time
Speaker 4: win unless you beat Duke, and I don't think anybody's
Speaker 4: beaten Duke right now. Like SMU could get a big
Speaker 4: win against Louisville and that would help them, But you
Speaker 4: can't slip up at all, because if you're on the
Speaker 4: bubble now, which again Clemson, Pit North Carolina, SMU, those
Speaker 4: are teams that are firmly on the bubble as it
Speaker 4: stands today. So let's just go to Let's go to SMU.
Speaker 4: So SMU and by the way, they nearly lost to
Speaker 4: a terrible Virginia team last night. They were they needed
Speaker 4: a buzzer beater late to win that one. So this
Speaker 4: SMU team, they're on the bubble currently looking at the
Speaker 4: next four out if you go off of what Lenardi says,
Speaker 4: so they have no chances to I mean, they've already
Speaker 4: lost to Duke. They have no chances to get any
Speaker 4: real big win. In fact, Louisville being a top thirty team,
Speaker 4: Louisvill's at thirty right now in the kim Pom, which,
Speaker 4: by the way, check this out. This is I don't
Speaker 4: know if I meant to mention this when I started
Speaker 4: talking about Lenardi, but he has Louisville as the twenty
Speaker 4: fifth overall seed, meaning he thinks, right now, resume wise,
Speaker 4: they have the twenty fifth best resume in college basketball,
Speaker 4: which is awesome. Kentucky, by the way, number nine overall.
Speaker 4: They're a three seed, and they are the number one
Speaker 4: three seed, meaning that maybe you go elsewhere and look
Speaker 4: at a bracket, they may have Kentucky as a two seed.
Speaker 4: But anyways, SMU is a good example here because right
Speaker 4: now they're not in and the opportunity to get wins
Speaker 4: that will really improve the resume.
Speaker 5: They've got Louisville at home.
Speaker 4: On Tuesday, and that would be a big win for him,
Speaker 4: but because it's at home for SMU, Louisville would probably
Speaker 4: fall out of the top thirty with the loss there, right,
Speaker 4: and then it doesn't become a quad one win, and
Speaker 4: then you've got games against other teams like Virginia is
Speaker 4: ranked one thirty two in the Knpom, so they needed
Speaker 4: a buzzer beater to beat them last night. If they
Speaker 4: lost to Virginia, I kind of feel like that technically
Speaker 4: would have eliminated them from being able to make it,
Speaker 4: because you get no value with the vast majority of
Speaker 4: your wins in this league because most teams stink, and
Speaker 4: the chances to get good wins just aren't there. You can,
Speaker 4: I mean, if you play like if you beat the
Speaker 4: hell out of somebody, it can improve your your it
Speaker 4: could be a metric win that's more than just a
Speaker 4: win in the win column. But I mean, again, what
Speaker 4: we don't know is how the committee actually views the ACC,
Speaker 4: and we'll never know. I mean, I guess we will
Speaker 4: get our early Do they still do that? I guess
Speaker 4: I think it's early February. They give you, like the
Speaker 4: early look at what the bract would be if if
Speaker 4: it started on that date, and they give you the
Speaker 4: top four seeds in each region, so the top sixteen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's usually like a conference tournament's time. They give
Speaker 6: you the first four in, first last four out.
Speaker 4: So I'm thinking we'll get somewhat of a look at
Speaker 4: what the committee thinks of the ACC. We probably won't
Speaker 4: because right now there's no scenario anybody in the ACC
Speaker 4: as of today is in the top sixteen outside of
Speaker 4: who duke. So because they only seed sixteen, when they
Speaker 4: give you that little preview of what it would look
Speaker 4: like at that time, it's gonna be tough to know.
Speaker 4: So what it comes down to to answer your question,
Speaker 4: I think it's absolutely possible for the league to only
Speaker 4: get two teams, and I wouldn't predict that that's what happens.
Speaker 4: But the only way that like we end up getting
Speaker 4: surprised and teams that we thought were bubble on the
Speaker 4: wrong side of it, it would just be that the
Speaker 4: committee actually looks at this league and values it more
Speaker 4: so than the numbers do. Because I mean, it's again,
Speaker 4: I know it's a broken record here, but the league
Speaker 4: is down in a way I never I never thought
Speaker 4: was gonna happen. But again, that's you know, Louislle could
Speaker 4: take advantage of that, and there's nothing you can do
Speaker 4: about it. And I know that this Louisville team, even
Speaker 4: probably from some of their own fans, is not.
Speaker 5: Viewed to be like a really really good team.
Speaker 4: Get it, Like they nearly lost to EKU when they've
Speaker 4: played some of these really good teams in a couple
Speaker 4: of in a couple of instances, they've been blown out.
Speaker 4: So like I understand that, and I don't think anybody
Speaker 4: really cares. They just love that these guys are playing
Speaker 4: so hard and that they are clearly given everything they have.
Speaker 4: Pat Kelsey's putting a pretty entertaining style of basketball out
Speaker 4: there too, Like these guys compared to what we've been
Speaker 4: through in recent years, and these guys playing their ass
Speaker 4: off and starting to really win. I mean, they've got
Speaker 4: a hell of a street going right now. Like that,
Speaker 4: I think fans are just so lost in that that
Speaker 4: they're probably not really thinking about, like what the ceiling is,
Speaker 4: how good is this Louisville team compared to some other teams.
Speaker 4: So I haven't gone there at all, just because, again
Speaker 4: I'm enjoying the ride, but I want to throw some
Speaker 4: numbers at you when we come back on the other side.
Speaker 4: That again, I'm probably getting ahead of myself here, but
Speaker 4: there are some things happening statistically that are as good
Speaker 4: or better than any Louisville basketball team ever. Now, what
Speaker 4: you do in the tournament is really how people view
Speaker 4: and define how good of a team you are, which
Speaker 4: that's just how it works in college basketball. But again,
Speaker 4: you've got some things happening statistically that have that have
Speaker 4: not happened in a long time, maybe never happened before.
Speaker 4: And this is all happening while Louisville in the non
Speaker 4: conference portion of the schedule. It was the toughest non
Speaker 4: conference schedule Les was having a long time. It's one
Speaker 4: of the toughest non conference schedules in the country. So, like,
Speaker 4: I keep seeing these signs and they may not be signs,
Speaker 4: but maybe, but I'm viewing them as signs that this
Speaker 4: team actually isn't just you know, getting better, rounding into
Speaker 4: form taking advantage of a weak acc I think I'm
Speaker 4: finding myself at times thinking, calm down, Nick, maybe this
Speaker 4: team is.
Speaker 5: You know, I think they're really good.
Speaker 4: I hesitate to say it because, you know, I feel
Speaker 4: like there'd be bad karma if I do that.
Speaker 5: But I'm watching this team. You're watching this team.
Speaker 4: I think we can both agree that they look like
Speaker 4: a damn good basketball team right now. All right, some
Speaker 4: other things we'll get into today. A big time visitor
Speaker 4: for Jeff Brohm, Penn State's leading receiver is one of
Speaker 4: the biggest names in the portal, and he is working
Speaker 4: on getting a visit schedule to Louisville, which would be
Speaker 4: it would be awesome. Also, Bill Belichick he never signed
Speaker 4: a contract at at North Carolina.
Speaker 3: That's weird.
Speaker 4: So there's some there's some rumor that that like he's
Speaker 4: going to try to just keep doing his job, but
Speaker 4: not signing a contract because he doesn't want that ten
Speaker 4: million dollar buyout for the NFL to actually, you know,
Speaker 4: be held up. And I guess you know, if he
Speaker 4: doesn't sign it, then it doesn't matter, Like but nobody
Speaker 4: would let him work if he doesn't sign a contract
Speaker 4: like that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 6: It's hanging out with college girls too long. They don't
Speaker 6: want to commit to you. Just only that's right, you know,
Speaker 6: that's right. He's he's he's a different man. He's still
Speaker 6: like not the most energetic guy. Like he's there's still
Speaker 6: a lot of the boring, grouch, crotchety old man.
Speaker 4: But compared to like what his demeanor and his vibe
Speaker 4: used to be like when he was in New England,
Speaker 4: I mean, he's like a he's a brand new man.
Speaker 5: He smiles, which is crazy.
Speaker 6: So he's fun when he gets on and does media stuff,
Speaker 6: like when he is on the Manning Cast.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the bar is so low for him that like
Speaker 4: he can just like show signs that he's human and
Speaker 4: that he's alive and that he has like feelings a
Speaker 4: little bit, and in that that that that's appealing to
Speaker 4: people because they've never seen that side of him before.
Speaker 4: So all right, let's suck get our first break out
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Speaker 5: We're once again abuff freezing.
Speaker 4: So this stuff's melting out there, which is good, and
Speaker 4: I think we're going to be a buff freezing for
Speaker 4: the next few days, which again that's that's a good thing,
Speaker 4: that's what we need. But I did see something on
Speaker 4: WDRB in regards to the winter storm that we had
Speaker 4: last week that really hit us in a way we
Speaker 4: haven't we haven't had in a long time. But this
Speaker 4: is sad the winter storm. I'll read the headline here
Speaker 4: from WDRB. Winter storm claimed six lives in Kentucky. Be
Speaker 4: sheer warns of snow shoveling risks. So when I heard
Speaker 4: that that six people had passed from the passed away
Speaker 4: from related to the storm, I just assumed that it
Speaker 4: would have been something to where. I mean, when I
Speaker 4: think of somebody dying in a weather related incident, I
Speaker 4: would assume that, you know, a little different if it's
Speaker 4: like a tornado that kind of stuff. But maybe somebody
Speaker 4: I don't know, hypothermia because they lost power and didn't
Speaker 4: have the means to which is really sad to think about.
Speaker 4: But that's happened before, where a storm can impact an
Speaker 4: elderly person or disabled person and they don't have the
Speaker 4: resources to like get out of that situation. So rare,
Speaker 4: of course, but very very sad. So when I saw
Speaker 4: six people, I'm thinking, how and this makes sense and
Speaker 4: technically it is related to the storms, but this is
Speaker 4: again from WDRB. Basher said a woman from Spencer County
Speaker 4: died from an injury related to the storm, and five
Speaker 4: men from Oldham, frank And Boone and Breckenridge Counties died
Speaker 4: due to injuries or medical emergencies this year. Said many,
Speaker 4: if not most, of the deaths were cardiac events. While
Speaker 4: shoveling snow in total from two storms that arrived five
Speaker 4: days apart, one foot of snow and a layer of
Speaker 4: ice coated Louisville the shear is urging people to shovel safely,
Speaker 4: dressed warmly, stay hydrated, and move only small amounts of
Speaker 4: snow and take frequent breaks.
Speaker 5: So that's scary.
Speaker 4: You gotta, I mean, and I don't know why instead
Speaker 4: of just and it's sad, but I'm just curious. Were
Speaker 4: they like overdoing it? Were they just out of shape?
Speaker 4: Were they like I? Cause I was shoveling snow on
Speaker 4: Friday because we ended up trying to go to Columbus
Speaker 4: if you remember, for the basketball for the Louisville pit game,
Speaker 4: and we had turned around and leave the next morning
Speaker 4: because the roads were so bad it was snowing, so
Speaker 4: I couldn't get up my driveway once again. So ended
Speaker 4: up out there just shoveling snow and realized I wasted
Speaker 4: two hours because it wasn't gonna work. There was too
Speaker 4: much ice that was just coated on the driveway. So
Speaker 4: I ended up getting it in the driveway, but I
Speaker 4: couldn't get it all the way to the top. So
Speaker 4: I realized at that time that that's a lot of work,
Speaker 4: like that'll really wear you out, and I I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't lift weights anymore, at least not you know,
Speaker 4: having it in a while. I mean, I know it's
Speaker 4: crazy to hear me say that because you guys have
Speaker 4: seen the physique that I have, and I know it's
Speaker 4: just yeah, I mean, stop baing.
Speaker 5: Just just blessed. It really is what it is.
Speaker 4: But uh, no, I I realized for me to stay
Speaker 4: at my where I want to where I want to
Speaker 4: stay as far as like weight and whatnot. If I'm
Speaker 4: if I you know, if I'm monitor what I put
Speaker 4: in my body and I get cardio in if I'm
Speaker 4: running you know, a few miles every couple of days,
Speaker 4: then I'm then I'll be able to kind of maintain.
Speaker 4: But I stopped lifting weights and I shoveled snow Friday,
Speaker 4: as I mentioned, and I was so sore. I couldn't
Speaker 4: believe it, Like I mean, and maybe it's because I
Speaker 4: was using certain muscles in a way that even when
Speaker 4: I was working out, I didn't didn't do it the
Speaker 4: same way. But yeah, you got to be careful, uh
Speaker 4: shovel and snow. I mean, I guess I'm trying to
Speaker 4: think of things that are similar as far as what
Speaker 4: it takes out of you, because this is the kind
Speaker 4: of thing that.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a workout. Yeah, I mean it is
Speaker 3: a workout.
Speaker 5: But and I think people realize that.
Speaker 4: But I don't know if even older people like that
Speaker 4: aren't in great help or maybe know that they don't
Speaker 4: have a great heart. I don't think that they look
Speaker 4: at shoveling snow is like, well, I can't do that
Speaker 4: because it might, you know, be a real danger. I mean,
Speaker 4: I doubt any of these people that when they went
Speaker 4: to shovel snow thought to themselves, this may be this
Speaker 4: may be it for me because I might. I mean,
Speaker 4: get nobody, nobody intentionally risks their life by you know,
Speaker 4: doing something they know they could give them cardiac arrest.
Speaker 5: But I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just I feel like that's that's not that common
Speaker 4: that that that you have people lose their life this way.
Speaker 4: But again maybe I'm wrong, but it's very sad, no doubt.
Speaker 5: So I say, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Loathe shoveling snow. I can't stand it.
Speaker 6: Probably half the reason that my sidewalk and everything leading
Speaker 6: up to my house is kind of gross as it
Speaker 6: is right now. Can't blame that on this city, can
Speaker 6: blame that on on.
Speaker 3: My lazy self.
Speaker 6: But I just I just hate doing it and just
Speaker 6: because I know I'm gonna get sweaty. There's nothing worse
Speaker 6: in being like hot internally while you're outside and it's freezing.
Speaker 6: For whatever reason, I can't stand that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good way to get sick too.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a myth or not, But
Speaker 4: like I was, I was out shoveling snow Friday, as
Speaker 4: I mentioned, and I had a coat on and a
Speaker 4: hoodie underneath, and I took the coat off and just
Speaker 4: had the hoodie on because I was sweating like I
Speaker 4: was hot, but yet it was like.
Speaker 5: Twenty degrees outside.
Speaker 4: And my wife told me that that's that's gonna get
Speaker 4: me sick. And I said what she said, when you're
Speaker 4: sweaty and you take layers off, you know that you're
Speaker 4: gonna you're gonna be colder than you realize. And I'm
Speaker 4: like that, there's no way that's true. But I kind
Speaker 4: of believe her, like I don't know, I believe anything
Speaker 4: she says, because you know, happy, happy wife, happy life.
Speaker 3: Right, I would, all right?
Speaker 4: So Bart Torvik a name you probably aren't familiar with
Speaker 4: unless you're a college basketball dork like myself. He is
Speaker 4: one of the many college basketball analytical gurus out there.
Speaker 4: He has his own formula that is actually if you
Speaker 4: follow the NCAA's like what they reference.
Speaker 5: And I'm pretty sure I'll look I look this up because.
Speaker 4: I think the NC double A is now using something,
Speaker 4: some type of a some component within his formula. The
Speaker 4: bart Torvik formula. It's very similar to the kin Pom
Speaker 4: as far as you know how it works. It's updated
Speaker 4: every day. I don't I doubt their formulas are exactly
Speaker 4: the same. But bart Torvick to me, has always just
Speaker 4: been a different version of kin Pom. But I believe
Speaker 4: the NC double A values bart Torvik a little bit
Speaker 4: more than kin Pom. So he has something really cool
Speaker 4: in his in his in his system here it's Barttorvik
Speaker 4: dot com b A r T T O r v
Speaker 4: I K. He has a similar profile section for each team.
Speaker 4: So right now Louisville is sitting at let's see, we
Speaker 4: know they are twelve and five and in the bart Torvik.
Speaker 4: Now I gotta pull, now I gotta go back.
Speaker 5: Let's see.
Speaker 4: So right now Louisville is sitting at number twenty nine
Speaker 4: in the bart Torvick. As I mentioned earlier, they're number
Speaker 4: thirty in the kin pom. So what he does here
Speaker 4: is he uses pre seasons with his formula and he
Speaker 4: will give you teams that at this time years ago,
Speaker 4: previous seasons had the same exact profile, meaning your numbers
Speaker 4: were exactly the same. And then it tells you sort
Speaker 4: of what what they You know, did they make the
Speaker 4: tournament or not?
Speaker 5: Did they what seed did they get? How far did
Speaker 5: they go?
Speaker 4: So the team currently that is the most similar to
Speaker 4: this Louisville team right now is Florida Atlantic from twenty
Speaker 4: twenty three, and that team, if you remember, was a
Speaker 4: nine seed and you know where they went. They went
Speaker 4: to the final four.
Speaker 3: That's right?
Speaker 5: I doubt.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that being the team most similar
Speaker 4: to Louisville is kind of weird to me because.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Again, I don't think they factor I don't think the
Speaker 4: bar Tory formula factors like conference or strength to schedule.
Speaker 4: But again, the number itself is is the is most
Speaker 4: similar to that FAU team from from a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago. But Lowell right now, I guess technically could
Speaker 4: they could be a nine seed?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: I guess?
Speaker 4: You know, it depends on where you look right now.
Speaker 4: When it comes to it to bracketology, so I don't know,
Speaker 4: it'd be real weird to have it to end up
Speaker 4: finishing with a gaudy record like Louisville could because of
Speaker 4: this acc and yet be an eight or a nine.
Speaker 5: I don't think that'll happen.
Speaker 4: But other teams that are similar to Louisville as far
Speaker 4: as the numbers here, you go back to let's see
Speaker 4: twenty twelve Iowa State. Don't remember that team, but they
Speaker 4: got an eight seed and they made it to the
Speaker 4: round of thirty two. So again I just I just
Speaker 4: thought that was interesting because it's this is not bracketology,
Speaker 4: of course, but it's somewhat in the same realm, if
Speaker 4: you will, because you're looking at teams that had the
Speaker 4: same exact situation, the teams with the closest situation to
Speaker 4: you in previous seasons at this time of the year,
Speaker 4: and you can see how they did, how they finished
Speaker 4: and look. So I don't think looking at how far
Speaker 4: they go in the tournament is really relevant, but more
Speaker 4: so than anything, just kind of seeing what's they ended
Speaker 4: up with. Now, I'm curious to look at Kentucky. So
Speaker 4: this current Kentucky team, I would imagine their profile right
Speaker 4: now is similar to some previous teams.
Speaker 5: That were really really good.
Speaker 4: But we shall see. Yeah, here we go right now.
Speaker 4: The team most similar to Kentucky is what here? I
Speaker 4: am gassing my man, Bart Torvick, and this number just
Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense Iowa. Of twenty fourteen, That Iowa
Speaker 4: team was an eleventh seed, so currently Kentucky is projected
Speaker 4: to be a three seed. Here according to Torvick and Lenardi.
Speaker 4: As we mentioned earlier, here's a better one.
Speaker 5: This is a better one.
Speaker 3: And I don't know what.
Speaker 4: I guess what he's grasped, what he's referencing. As far
Speaker 4: as finding similarity, it is the overall like adjusted metric
Speaker 4: of your adjusted defense and your adjusted offense. And I
Speaker 4: can tell I'm nerding out too much on the numbers here,
Speaker 4: sounding like a Poindexter. But we'll move on in just
Speaker 4: a second. But this makes a little more sense. The
Speaker 4: other team most similar to Kentucky this year is twenty
Speaker 4: twenty four Illinois. If you remember, that team was really
Speaker 4: good with Terren Shannon and they made it all.
Speaker 5: The way to the Elite eight.
Speaker 4: They were also a three seed. So nearly every team
Speaker 4: in this ten team sample view here that we're looking
Speaker 4: at is a three seed at best. And then there's
Speaker 4: again I don't understand it, but there's some seeds that
Speaker 4: are in that. There's some teams that are similar as
Speaker 4: far as this formula, but they ended up with like
Speaker 4: an eight seed or a ten seed. That doesn't make
Speaker 4: a whole lot of sense. But anyways, I said we're
Speaker 4: gonna move on from numbers, but I lied. But these
Speaker 4: are fun numbers. These are numbers that'll make sense. These
Speaker 4: are stats, not tiers and quads and formulas and analytics.
Speaker 4: This is just raw numbers and statste yes, this is.
Speaker 5: This is just guys out here doing numbers.
Speaker 4: Okay, So right now, Rain Smith, who of course you know,
Speaker 4: is is on fire. He leads all Power five players,
Speaker 4: meaning players from he's top five overall, but he is
Speaker 4: number one when it comes to players from ACC SEC,
Speaker 4: Big ten, Big twelve, or Big East. He's making three
Speaker 4: point six three point field goals per game, which again
Speaker 4: that's number one in the country. And he has made
Speaker 4: sixty five triples, which is the most. So I mean,
Speaker 4: this guy is not only bringing what he brought from Charleston,
Speaker 4: he's actually playing better. And I tried not to well,
Speaker 4: I wanted to go here, but I haven't yet because
Speaker 4: I don't want to sound like I'm claiming that Rain
Speaker 4: Smith is the token white guy, right, Like, man, he's sneaky, athletic,
Speaker 4: he's he don't he's deceiving as far as you know
Speaker 4: how quick.
Speaker 3: He can be.
Speaker 4: Like, Rain Smith is just a really good basketball player.
Speaker 4: Like even when he's not making shots, louisvill is a
Speaker 4: better team when he's on the floor because one, he
Speaker 4: doesn't appear to be a defensive liability at all. Like
Speaker 4: that was something people mentioned earlier in the season, probably
Speaker 4: just because you know, he's the white guy you felt
Speaker 4: you probably thought he was slow. But he's a smart defender.
Speaker 4: He understands spacing really really well. Like he's just a
Speaker 4: good player, Like he could run the point I think
Speaker 4: if you needed him to, I mean, that wouldn't be ideal.
Speaker 4: Chucky Clarly is one of the best point guards in
Speaker 4: the country. So rain is having himself a really really
Speaker 4: special season. And then Kelly Dickey highlights another stat here
Speaker 4: for rain Smith that is even more impressive to me
Speaker 4: than him leading all Power five players in three point
Speaker 4: shots made. Currently, rain Smith is on pace to break
Speaker 4: the Louisville record for most three pointers made per game
Speaker 4: in a season. He is currently averaging three point six
Speaker 4: threes per game, as I just mentioned, and the leader
Speaker 4: is Taekwan Dean who's at three point four. So Taekwon
Speaker 4: averaged three point four in two thousand and six. He
Speaker 4: also averaged three point three in two thousand and five,
Speaker 4: and then Preston Knowles averaged two point nine in twenty eleven.
Speaker 4: And then as you as you move down, you've got
Speaker 4: rees gains at two point eight twenty in two thousand
Speaker 4: and two, and then Dwan Whet was two point five
Speaker 4: two in nineteen ninety five. So I mean, he'd have
Speaker 4: to maintain this pace, which is even the if he
Speaker 4: keeps shooting well, It's going to be hard to do,
Speaker 4: I think, because I mean, if rand Smith continues to
Speaker 4: average three and a half or more threes made per game,
Speaker 4: if that average maintains, that's a really really good sign
Speaker 4: for Louisville, I would say. And then another stat that
Speaker 4: I don't know if you I don't know if people
Speaker 4: see this as super valuable, but I do. Technically, dunks
Speaker 4: just count as two points, but dunks are dunks are
Speaker 4: not only safer meaning if you can dunk and you're there, like,
Speaker 4: you have a much higher probability of slamming a ball
Speaker 4: through the net then you do, you know, laying I
Speaker 4: mean much much less chance of of missing an easy
Speaker 4: two points if you if you if you can just
Speaker 4: dunk it. And also, dunks can absolutely be more than
Speaker 4: just two points when it comes to momentum. And nobody,
Speaker 4: and I mean nobody proved that more than Montrez Haral.
Speaker 4: In fact, this is the stat I was getting a
Speaker 4: Mantres Harrel has. He's number one and number two in
Speaker 4: dunks per game in a season and and fourteen he
Speaker 4: was two point six dunks per game. Twenty fifteen it
Speaker 4: was two point three dunks per game. Well, James Scott
Speaker 4: right now is averaging two point one dunks per game,
Speaker 4: and I mean I wouldn't be shocked. He he's he's
Speaker 4: hot right now. I mean, James Scott has played really,
Speaker 4: really really well and he I kind of feel like
Speaker 4: he's he's kind of he's still raw, and he still
Speaker 4: very much sticks to what he knows he can do well,
Speaker 4: which is just running the floor and dunking the ball
Speaker 4: when it's near the rim, and you know it's he's
Speaker 4: doing that and he's that's really been his role all year.
Speaker 4: But he's doing that now better than he ever has.
Speaker 4: And and again I know it's just two points. Like,
Speaker 4: dunks didn't used to be a stat that was that
Speaker 4: was charted. In fact, Louisville at one point was one
Speaker 4: of the only schools in college basketball that did track dunks.
Speaker 4: So I'm glad they do. But now you can get
Speaker 4: it at bart Torvick. Bart Torvick actually tracks dunks. To
Speaker 4: my knowledge, it's the only way. It's the only in
Speaker 4: CBA College Basketball stat website or you know rank. You know,
Speaker 4: you can't find it on ESPN, you can't find it
Speaker 4: in c double A, you can't find it anywhere to
Speaker 4: my knowledge.
Speaker 5: But Bartrvick does have it.
Speaker 4: And right now James Scott is currently sixth in the
Speaker 4: country in dunks. Ryan Cochbrenner at Creighton.
Speaker 5: Is the leader. He's like eight foot tall, right, Cockbrenner.
Speaker 4: I just met her. I couldn't resist I couldn't resist him, Sorry,
Speaker 4: Cock Brinner. Ryan Cockbrenner at Creighton, he leads the country
Speaker 4: in dunks. And then after him, it is a Zis
Speaker 4: Bondego from Cincinnati and then another name I'm not even
Speaker 4: gonna attempt to pronounce who plays for Penn State, and
Speaker 4: then Dylan Mitchell at Cincinnati, and then Asa Newell at Georgia,
Speaker 4: and then after that it's our man, James Scott, who
Speaker 4: he's also shooting an insane field goal percentage. Now I
Speaker 4: got to look it up because James Scott actually missed
Speaker 4: a layup.
Speaker 5: Either against Syracuse or against again.
Speaker 4: You I really his missed shots stand out, which is crazy,
Speaker 4: not because you know he misses all the time, but
Speaker 4: because he rarely ever misses, and when he does miss,
Speaker 4: it's usually a shot that you feel like he should
Speaker 4: have made because he doesn't take shots that are real risky.
Speaker 4: My man's dunking if he can, or he's putting it
Speaker 4: up right near the rim, like I've seen him put
Speaker 4: one put one in that wasn't a dunk.
Speaker 5: At like eye level to the rim.
Speaker 4: So yeah, right now, James Scott is averaging or is
Speaker 4: shooting eighty two point one percent from the floor. I mean,
Speaker 4: that is insane. And if you look at his totals here,
Speaker 4: James Scott has made or has taken sixty seven shots
Speaker 4: on the season, and he's made fifty five of them.
Speaker 4: I mean, think about that. That guy does not shoot
Speaker 4: unless he feels really confident it's going to go in,
Speaker 4: and it's usually a dunk. So I don't know what
Speaker 4: the minimum is, but he's he's not in the This
Speaker 4: is the guy who starts and averages twenty one point
Speaker 4: five minutes per game, but yet he doesn't he hasn't
Speaker 4: taken enough shots to qualify to lead the country in
Speaker 4: field goal percentage. Because if you look at let's see,
Speaker 4: yeah'm going to players statistic. Let's see, yeah, player statistics
Speaker 4: field goal percentage. Yeah, Like, he doesn't show up. The
Speaker 4: leader is shooting seventy four point seven percent and he's
Speaker 4: shooting eight and a half shots per game like that.
Speaker 4: May that tells me that James Scott has got to
Speaker 4: be I mean, he's got to be getting close to
Speaker 4: hitting that bar where his his numbers will count. And
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, once they do, once he hits the bar,
Speaker 4: that puts him to where he's included in this in
Speaker 4: this statistic, he'll I don't and I don't know what
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 5: I'm here.
Speaker 4: I am thinking he's close. Maybe he's far away. I
Speaker 4: don't know, but he will shatter the I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't know if it's a record, but he will. He
Speaker 4: will win this by a landslote. He's currently shooting let's see, yeah,
Speaker 4: roughly ten percent better per game than the guy who's
Speaker 4: number one, who's shooting like seventy four percent. Again, I
Speaker 4: don't you know, maybe these numbers mean nothing to you.
Speaker 5: Right you got to win.
Speaker 4: There's probably some impressive stats out there for teams that
Speaker 4: are allows you when it comes to individual players. But
Speaker 4: right now, Louisville's playing at a high level. They're winning,
Speaker 4: and you've got some guys on this team doing some
Speaker 4: things that rarely have ever been done around here at Louisville, which, again,
Speaker 4: it just further supports what I believe in that is
Speaker 4: that this team isn't just doing well because the ACC stinks,
Speaker 4: and they're doing better than anybody would expect it, and
Speaker 4: they're clearly doing better than what we had with Kenny Paine.
Speaker 4: I'm starting to really believe that their team that could
Speaker 4: make a run in this tournament. All depends upon matchups,
Speaker 4: and we're not close to selection Sunday yet, but exciting times.
Speaker 5: No doubt quick Break will come back on the other side.
Speaker 4: I want to talk more about this TikTok stuff, because
Speaker 4: I'm now fascinated to kind of learn about those who
Speaker 4: would be really impacted, and I guess are going to
Speaker 4: be really impacted when this just goes away. On Sunday
Speaker 4: quick break, hang out right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes I will tune in in the mornings on News
Speaker 4: Ready eight forty. Whas to the senior citizens, my friends
Speaker 4: Tony ven Eddie Dwight when and I'm kidding they're older
Speaker 4: than me, but they're not old guys, but they kind
Speaker 4: of sounded old earlier talking about TikTok because.
Speaker 3: They were listening to the same show.
Speaker 4: They were questioning sort of why there's so many really
Speaker 4: important people, you know, like the president who's on his
Speaker 4: way out and the president who's about to take over,
Speaker 4: and even like we've got very powerful people that are
Speaker 4: trying to figure out how they can keep TikTok alive.
Speaker 4: And it's not a silly question, I suppose, because they
Speaker 4: just were thinking, why is this such a priority. Shouldn't
Speaker 4: they have bigger, bigger things to worry about, which that's
Speaker 4: that's a valid question. However, you know this is something
Speaker 4: that isn't just for entertainment. It's now well, people make
Speaker 4: a living on TikTok by either entertaining you or selling
Speaker 4: you stuff.
Speaker 5: So I guess to kind.
Speaker 4: Of support their thought here is that even if that
Speaker 4: is the case, there's all kinds of industries and businesses
Speaker 4: that just crumble and it impacts people's livelihood and they
Speaker 4: no longer can do said job. And you don't see
Speaker 4: this kind of you know, this kind of effort from
Speaker 4: powerful people to save companies like TikTok. You know they're not.
Speaker 4: By the way, TikTok's not going away. It's just going
Speaker 4: away here. It's still gonna be able to be There's
Speaker 4: still gonna be alive everywhere else, but just not here
Speaker 4: in the United States. So I was just looking at
Speaker 4: different stories out there across the country from people who
Speaker 4: are really worried because when TikTok's dead, they they got
Speaker 4: to shift elsewhere to Instagram or to X.
Speaker 5: What else is there? Facebook? Obviously? Facebook, Instagram, X What
Speaker 5: am I missing?
Speaker 3: Any there?
Speaker 4: Any?
Speaker 5: Snapchat? Snapchat still still a thing, it is, but like
Speaker 5: I don't use it, Yeah, I don't I kind of
Speaker 5: think it's fading.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know who just goes to you like
Speaker 3: videos and reels like snapchat.
Speaker 4: Snapchat to me, it's it's the first, and there's been
Speaker 4: another sense, but it was the first social media app
Speaker 4: that kind of became a big thing. Whenever I was
Speaker 4: in I was in an age that you know, I
Speaker 4: would be the target audience for it, right, But I
Speaker 4: never understood why it became a thing like you could everything,
Speaker 4: like there's nothing that like each of these social media
Speaker 4: apps that became huge rather than and maybe they still
Speaker 4: are today or they you know, maybe they fell off.
Speaker 4: They brought something that the other one didn't have, like
Speaker 4: that that they stand out in a way that separates them.
Speaker 4: What didn't What did Snapchat do? I guess that it
Speaker 4: disappears after you send it. That's the only thing I
Speaker 4: can think of. So anyways, these people who have TikTok,
Speaker 4: they probably built a bigger following there than anywhere, which
Speaker 4: is why they're so worried, and which is how they're
Speaker 4: able to make a living. But one of the stories
Speaker 4: I read made a lot of and that in fact,
Speaker 4: I know somebody who who I don't know what the
Speaker 4: what kind of money they make, but they they're they're
Speaker 4: a part of this TikTok you know program essentially, I
Speaker 4: guess it's not it's not just called you know, you're
Speaker 4: you're a creator but also an influencer. But if you
Speaker 4: have like a million followers on Instagram or Facebook or
Speaker 4: Twitter or whatever x, you can just post stuff and
Speaker 4: if you're if it's a sponsored post because of the
Speaker 4: reefs that you have, you can monetize that in a
Speaker 4: major way. Like there are people who will just post
Speaker 4: something for a company and add on their social media
Speaker 4: account that has millions of followers and they'll make a
Speaker 4: ton of money. But on TikTok you can have a
Speaker 4: substantially smaller audience. But if you have an active niche
Speaker 4: and they'll buy things you want them to buy, you
Speaker 4: can you can make a lot of money. So for example,
Speaker 4: one of my buddies, he is a he has his
Speaker 4: own lawn care business. So he decided to make content
Speaker 4: on Instagram or on TikTok that shows like lawnmower stuff,
Speaker 4: like tips and tricks about lawnmowers, or just showing just
Speaker 4: giving advice on how he got this look for this yard,
Speaker 4: or certain products that he uses throughout his business as
Speaker 4: somebody who owns a lawn care company. So that's his niche.
Speaker 4: So his following is not crazy. He's probably got like
Speaker 4: six thousand followers, which is impressive in my opinion, but
Speaker 4: you know, we're not talking about a million people. He's
Speaker 4: got six thousand followers, and you know what, they're all
Speaker 4: following him because they're interested in that. He's the guy
Speaker 4: that they follow because they think he has interesting content
Speaker 4: about lawncare, that kind of stuff, lawnmowers. So he gets
Speaker 4: twenty five items from a certain company, maybe there's some
Speaker 4: kind of fertilizer. They'll say, look, we're going to give
Speaker 4: you thirty of these. You sell them, you get a
Speaker 4: certain percentage of everyone's sold. Well, if these things, if
Speaker 4: the fertilizer's fifty bucks a pop, and I mean that's
Speaker 4: good money. So like that, it's not just because when
Speaker 4: you think about the millionaires being affected because they've got
Speaker 4: millions of followers, like, yeah, there wouldn't be a whole
Speaker 4: lot of sympathy, but there are people who are probably
Speaker 4: making a good living or maybe it's just extra income
Speaker 4: that they really depend on now because you know, everything
Speaker 4: is so expensive, so TikTok is a little different than
Speaker 4: these other platforms because clearly you can monetize and make
Speaker 4: money without having some massive following that'll take you decades
Speaker 4: to build. So I don't know if that's why you're
Speaker 4: seeing such a fight here from the powerful people to
Speaker 4: get TikTok saved from being unavailable to us in America,
Speaker 4: But I don't know. I found that fascinating. And that's
Speaker 4: really what social media's turned into is that you really
Speaker 4: have to have it if you would if you just
Speaker 4: want to be an influencer, you want to have a
Speaker 4: lot of followers, you have to have a niche. And
Speaker 4: what I mean by that is like, are you reviewing food?
Speaker 4: Are you reviewing shows? Are you unboxing items and showing
Speaker 4: what it looks like fresh out of the box? Like
Speaker 4: I never seek any of that content out, but you
Speaker 4: know what a lot.
Speaker 3: Of people do.
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Speaker 4: I hope a lot of you stick around.
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