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We're talking NXT for July, I almost said June July

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twenty eighth twenty and Wow, what an NXT episode this was.

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I think the opening segment, which we'll be talking about momentarily,

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was better than the entirety of raw last night, Go

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about NXT with me, David Miller. David, thanks for filling

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Speaker 3: It absolutely, Thanks for having me, Nate.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Grayson Waller. So Grayson Waller

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opened the show tonight in like a way that he

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kind of like crashed the show. It didn't seem like

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it didn't seem like it was a part of the show.

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Obviously it was, but the way that they presented it

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and everything, it seemed like he crashed the show, grabbed

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a mic, stepped into the ring, and cut probably the

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best promo of his life, or at least that I've seen.

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It seemed like it was a lot. I don't want

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to call it a work to shoot promo because I

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don't know if it was or not, but it felt

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like it if it wasn't. And he went into a

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lot of what I would think would be real life

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gripes that he actually did have, you know, talking about how,

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you know, he spent all this time in NXT building

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his name up, goes to the main roster and he

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basically has to carry two hundred and forty pounds of

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man on his back speaking about Austin theory and you know,

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and ended up talking about how good this guy was

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and how promoting Austin theory and things like that. He

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also threw a mention of a new Day in there,

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which I thought was kind of fun, especially considering they're gone.

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It still blows my mind. They're gone, but they're gone

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then essentially like laid claim for the NXT. NXT title.

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I thought this was great. This was completely unexpected. I

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haven't really thought about Grease S. Waller a little while,

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but I've always really liked Grayson Waller like his time

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in NXT. He played a great, great heel, especially in

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that NXT two point zero era where we didn't I

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don't want to say we didn't have a whole lot

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of talent on the NXT roster, but it was a

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rebuilding period. Let's go with that. It was a rebuilding

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period for NXT at that point, and Grayson Waller was

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was a big standout, at least for me anyway. As

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part of that two point oh era, Yes, yes, the

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Nickelodeon tied I all that good fun stuff, So I

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thought that was amazing. Thought it was an absolutely great promo.

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It tied into our main event segment of the night

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when Cruise Montana the former Mike Santana. I'm not sure

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I like the name, but you know what, I tend

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to not like most names in n XT recently, So

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there's that Cruise Montana the former Mike Santana newest member

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to the NXT roster met Tony DiAngelo out in the ring.

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They basically had a bit of a back and forth

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talking about well, first uh, Cruse Santanna talked about, you know,

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making his way to w WE, all the trials and

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tribulations that he went through in his personal life, things

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that they've covered kind of both on NXT but primarily

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on TNA. Some of the things that he went through

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in his personal life, you know, kind of talked about

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some of that, how he never thought he'd be in

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the WWE, but now here he is. Tony comes out

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and they have a bit of a back and forth,

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you know, talking about talking about the title, Cruz mentioning

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that he wants the title, and then we had Grayson

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Waller attack and it looked like at one point Cruz

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was going to go for this massive clothesline or lariat

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on h Cruse Montana or sorry on uh Grayson Waller

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rather and Waller ducked out of the way. Cruz winds

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up hitting Tony D'Angelo instead, making for a little bit

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of h I guess we'll call it confusion a little

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bit at the end there where Tony, you know, like

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Cruz goes to help Tony up, and Tony like slaps

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his hand away. You know, did he do it on purpose?

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Didn't he do it? Did he not do it on purpose?

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Who knows? I think this is all great stuff. I mean,

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going back to the the opening segment with Grayson Waller,

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a lot of the things that he talked about were,

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you know, the NXT men's division and it being a

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little bit on the weak side right now. He specifically

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called out how strong the women's division is, which I

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thought was great because these are all criticisms that we've

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had here on the show, the men's division. Who's gonna

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be Tony Dangelo's next opponent. I mean we figured maybe

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Mason Rook or something like that, but you know, Mason Brook,

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his in ring has wowed me. His mic work necessary

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hasn't necessarily wowed me, which is also something Grayson Waller

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called out on in that opening segment tonight, not Mason

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Brook in particular, but talking about how some indie guys

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come in wow everybody with their moves, but then they

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can't talk on the mic. I think overall this is

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a great use of Grace and Waller. He hasn't really

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been doing a whole heck of a lot recently, So

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why not give him something to sink his teeth into

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something that's meaningful for him and that's also going to

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help elevate the NXT brand. I can only imagine Grayson

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Waller is having fun with this. Just judging by his

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performance tonight, I think he's like, he's got to be

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all in on this. So I've talked enough. Let me

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throw it over to you, David, and let me find

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out or let us find out what you think of

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our opening segment and our closing segment.

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Speaker 3: Well, I will one up you on that opening segment

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with Graason Waller. First of all, yes, that was probably

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the last person I expected to show up suddenly on NXT.

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Yet there he was, and was he ready. He cut

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not only the best promo of his career, but he

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cut one of the best promos I've heard in recent

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memory from anyone. And yeah, it was you could call

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it a workshoot because again, many of the points that

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he made were points that have been made on this

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podcast and and and in our reports here. And you know,

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he called himself, but you know he said he got

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called up to the main roster and became a Netflix

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ad Break Comedy act and again you know, took credit

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for elevating you know, Austin theory, which she really did,

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I mean, quite honestly he did. And you know then,

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as you said, he really topped up the women's division.

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He said, you know, the men's division is is here

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for the picking. He said, you know, these women, he said,

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the women around here in NXT are running circles around

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the men's division. And he is right. He's got a

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good point because how many women on the NXT roster

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right now do we feel are ready essentially to be

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called up to the main roster there? I can think

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of more than three or four actually, So he made

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some very good points. Yeah, the cute little new day

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I mentioned there, and the telling I think he said

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something along the lines of telling Tony Dangelil to go

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back to his ugly baby or something along say, there's

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some real heat seeking comment there that. But yeah, it

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was great. You know, they eventually they eventually cut his mic.

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You know, I'll see him punk pipe bomb and you know,

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so he founded in the nearest camera and stuck his

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face in the camera and started talking. So that was excellent.

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That was just the most excellent promo I've heard in

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ages from anyone. Definitely didn't expect that at of Grayson Waller.

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Speaker 2: I like, he's always been good on the mic, always

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been good on the mic. But I didn't ever, I

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didn't expect him to a give him the time to

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cut something like that, because I mean there was a

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long segment that it had to have been probably roughly

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ten minutes or so, just guessing, But I didn't expect

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to see him show up at NXT either. I think

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it certainly, Uh, I think it certainly works. Like I said,

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I mean, he hasn't been doing a whole heck of

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a lot. So if you've got talent like this, utilize

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is it? You know, if they're not gonna utilize on

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the main roster, then help we'll take it down here

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in NXT. Absolutely absolutely so. Yeah, big big thumbs up

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from I think both of us on this, this Grace

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and Waller thing.

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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the cruise Sta Cruz Montana name.

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Speaker 3: Well, at first I thought I heard them wrong when

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they mentioned because tonight I believe it's the first time

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I've heard them actually mentioned his WWE name. You know what,

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I wouldn't have a problem with it at all, because

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I mean, I'm used to this. It's I mean, first

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of all, nothing can be worse than e K Prospers,

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So you know, they could cart somebody anything and it

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would be a giant improvement over that. But second of all,

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you know, so we know they're going to get any

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name changed. But the only problem I have with it

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is it was not all that long ago that he

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was appearing in n XT as Mike Santana. Yep. Now

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I don't know about you, but I don't think he

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looks anything at all like Tito Santana. So I don't

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think the two are gonna get confused U when it

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comes to to you know, when it comes to that,

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it's just like I said, you know, I understand somebody

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like Jakar Jackson going to TNA and taking on you know,

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the name of Mara that that's yeah, I know I

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get that. But but with you know, big star like Santana,

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who was, as they said, former TNA World champion to

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come in there just literally I don't know how long

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has been since he lost the title. I'm not even

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aware of, but it's not been that long since he

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even appeared on n XT. So yeah, uh, it's a

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tongue twister. It's hard to get used to. I want

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to say it about one hundred times so I don't

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slip up and say, uh uh Cruse Santana or or

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or yeah Mike Mike Montana or some variation of that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I I don't know.

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I I'm a hundred like one hundred percent with you

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with the Mike Santana that like he showed up not

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that long ago as Mike Santana. We didn't and as

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I think it, I just had it up on the screen.

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Who was said it was goodfella, goodfella said I wish

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they explained the meaning of the name since NXT has

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seen him as Mike Santana before, which is is basically

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what you just said, And I completely agree with that. Like,

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if you're gonna change the name, which I understand, w

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W wants to own the rights and everything, so okay, fine,

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if it is what it is, it's part of the

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part of the shtick I guess, coming in, you know,

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to the company. But why not, Like I don't know,

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why not Mike Cruz or like Mike Mike Montana, even

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like not sold on Mike Montana.

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with that. That's why I thought of hurting around at first.

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He was on the way. Man, they already have a

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Cruise in WW and lord, notice they don't like to

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have somebody having the you know, the same first name

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or the same last name. They've got to change that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, well we do have Izzy and Lizzie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They made a point of yeah KFC, oh my god, yep.

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I'm sure we'll get back to that later too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well yeah, well we'll hit that match next anyway.

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But but yeah, I don't know. I I, like I said,

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but I I don't know. I I think they need

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to stop letting the NXT town choose their own names.

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it feels like they are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, would you.

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Speaker 2: Prosper I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't take responsibility for.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely not Like oh, I mean, and if you

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don't know what e K stands for It's like what

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ch ch prosper what you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Like that's the AI pronunciation.

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Speaker 2: You know what. B is admitted to using AI to

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like help them with their creative So you know what,

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maybe maybe we've got like chat shept your claude to

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yell at about Eke the e K prosper name. Oh well,

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then again somebody had to go. You know what, that's

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a good one out of a list that will spit out.

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Speaker 3: And anyway, I'd love to see the rejected names.

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Speaker 2: Good Ryan, you're fired, Ryan Ran The chat says, e

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K prospers growing on me.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I do not accept that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, to each their own. If

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if it's growing on you, it's growing on yet. But

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you're still wrong.

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Speaker 3: But we like what like a fungus.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, weird, weird weird? Uh paw driver Pizzas does

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cruise eel to work in Triple A. Last I knew

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that he was doing some work in Triple A.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the last time I saw I was

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in A.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, same, I think it was the last time

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I saw him. Anyway, it was in Triple A. I

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haven't admittedly it's been a while last night was the

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first night in a while that I had tuned into

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a live Raw SmackDown, probably in about a month and

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a half or so. So, yeah, if he's been on,

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i''m not sure. I've caught highlights and things like that,

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but haven't necessarily seen everything going on ro our SmackDown

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the last last month and a half or whatever. Right, right,

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says I'll accept being wrong.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, well maybe if you maybe if we can

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find I mean, I will find out where he is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe, good fellow, it says Raw was a

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tough watch last night. Yeah, yeah, it was. I halfway through,

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I'm like, why why am I doing this to myself?

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And then the Joe Henry Danhausen segment hit and I

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was like, why is anybody doing this to themselves? But well,

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we're not here to talk about that. I don't want

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to talk about that. Yeah, let's not. Let's not. Let's

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go ahead and talk about Izzy versus Lizzy. I'm gonna

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scroll up to the very top of my notes here.

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Twelve minutes, thirty seven seconds we saw Lizzy go over Izzy.

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This was this is a good match, even a little

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it's weird reading the time the twelve minutes thirty seven

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seconds is I don't know if that feels like doesn't

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feel long enough this match. And I don't say that

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bad way. This match just felt like it went longer

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than that to me. But I think this is a

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good match between the two of them. They've got some

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pretty good chemistry. The whole Izzy and Lizzy thing. I mean,

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we talked about want to talk about confusing names. You know,

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I understand, you know, I sure they're different, but they're

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close enough. Where Vic kept making he kept calling Lizzy Izzy,

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but then would make fun of Booker when he did it,

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which I thought was kind of funny. Whatever, But we

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saw Nico Vance try to interfere on Izzy's behalf. We

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saw then saw Sean Spears come out with a chair

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and kind of scare off Nico Vance. That allowed Lizzie

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to uh get her Thunderstruck. That's I love that song.

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I should remember the name of that finisher. Thunderstruck was

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able to get that for the win. I really liked

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the Lizzy Rain character. I don't necessarily know if I

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like the Lizzy Rain character eating KFC in the back,

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but you know, there there's that, so let me I

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guess you know, let me throw it. Actually, well, before

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I do that, I was n me may as well

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read the Lizzy rain segment.

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Speaker 3: So you're gonna say, before that, let me get my

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KFC over here.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I last week I did that to Kelly.

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You started talking about Dan Housen and the teeth, and

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then I pulled out my jar teeth. But not a

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jar chicken. Not a jar chicken, Lizzy. Uh, Lizzy was

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eating chicken, but while being interviewed by Emily a guard backstage,

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rain crewdited Shiloh Hill with turning her onto the popcorn chicken. Yeah,

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why are they using my favorite?

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Speaker 3: Week WE was there? He shared last week I grabbed

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all six of those boxes off of stones Gas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the who wants week old chicken? I hope

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it was fresh. I hope it was fresh chicken. And

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it wasn't the chicken that he stole last week. I

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didn't think about that until now. Anyway, people live in

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crates for a month on WWE, so I guess chicken

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might survive longer than a week. I'm thinking way too

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much into this.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hey everyone, longtime PW torchcommist Sean Radikin here

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Speaker 2: So, Tristan Angels walked out while she was getting interviewed

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by a guard and suggested that she should be eating

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tea and sane, which isn't be a little bit more

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refined than she is, and he kind of walked off

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to do his thing with Shiloh a little bit later

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on and kind of ended with both Rain and Agard

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just eating popcorn chicken. So I had figured i'd throw

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it in to the Izzy and Lizzie match, So let

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me throw it to you about is he Lizzie and

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the Chicken?

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Speaker 3: Well we'll start. We'll start with is he and Lizzie first?

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A good match?

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Speaker 2: Is he?

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Speaker 3: Dame has really come a long way. She even busted

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out a couple of new moves tonight that I had

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not used before. And she's kind of sits a long

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way before I believe she was hanging out with so

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was it Keana James many moons ago that she used

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to be paired with. But yeah, she's come a long

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way from those days, and Lizzie Rain is growing on me.

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At first, I thought it was a little bit silly,

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a little bit over the top, but she seemed just

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a little bit more subdued tonight, which I liked. The

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version of ourself tonight obviously a heavy crowd favorite, heavy

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heavy crowd favorite. Let me get onto the chicken here,

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more serious and more serious. On a more serious note here,

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let's get to the KFC.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I think when last week I wondered if they were,

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I'm like, oh my god, dude, they are they not aware?

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But this week I believe they are aware, and it's

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a whole wink wink thing. Hey, we're purposely being over

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the top with this, you know, shameless plug for KSC

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because it was just, yeah, they couldn't, you know. It's

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got to be kind of a wink wink situation, like,

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you know, hey, are you on the joke here? Type

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type of thing. But that's my take on. At least

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I could. But that's what I think.

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Speaker 2: I hope so, and I hope this is only like

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a month long thing. Like obviously they did it last week,

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they're doing it again this week. I'm hoping they're not

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gonna be shoehorning popcorn Chicken into promos and matches over

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the next few you know, indefinitely.

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Speaker 3: And to get back to the end of the match,

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I think we kind of cut it off, but as

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Nico Vance tried to interfere, he hopped back down to

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the floor. And then of course there's this hooded figure

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behind him that rises up holding a chair, pulls his

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head off and sewn Spear as well. Advance of course

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starts begging for his life. Dang gets distracted and that's

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how she ate the thunderstruck for the wind there. So

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it was good seeing that Spears get another measure of

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vengeance on the culling there, out smarting them one more

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time here. So I thought that was a nice touch.

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Speaker 2: Ryan says, Is it bad that I was eating KFC

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while watching the show. No, I think that just means

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you're a good fan. You're you're you're buying the products

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there they want you to buy. I don't know, Hey,

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KFC's good. I mean, I didn't have KFC popcorn Chicken today,

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but I did have popcorn Chicken for lunch. Maybe maybe

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it was my subconscious I don't know. Goodfella says have

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really been growing a joy enjoy Izzy's journey A journey.

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I love Ava Rain with the chicken promos, Uh, says

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Ava Rain, Avrain, She's gone. Yeah, I kind of forgot

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they called her Ava Rain for a while too. Uh

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Lizzy Rain. Uh love Izzy Rain, but chicken promos are

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a no, even if she's capable and charismatic enough of

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doing it. Yeah, I'm like, I don't know. I I

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guess it was.

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Speaker 3: I thought I thought it was kind of funny, but

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only once I realize what they were doing, that they

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were doing this on purpose. Uh yeah, I think it's

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kind of It's not something I want to see a

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lot of. But but you know, what was it? I

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believe it was the movie Wayne's World when they were

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doing the shameless sponsor for I don't know what it was.

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I forget what do you remember?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: Anybody remember what it was? Actually they were.

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Speaker 2: Talking about that. They were talking about that in the

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chat before we started. I'm scrolling up. Where was it?

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Here we go? Was Ryan the one that where Garth

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says accepting sponsorship is like corporate greed or something while

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he was wearing a lot of advertising.

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Speaker 3: That was it? That's what I feel like they're doing

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with this and so that, you know, seeing it from

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that point of view, I found it. I find it

471
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,440
a little humorous, not something I want to see a

472
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,640
lot of, but I get it. It's cute.

473
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:49,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean I think something like this with

474
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,200
Lizzie works once, but I don't want to see her

475
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:56,880
be the chicken hill. I don't want to see Shiloh

476
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,359
be the chicken shill either. But if he's it's going

477
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,200
to be if there's going to be somebody that's chilling chicken.

478
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:05,920
And that is not the sentence that I thought I

479
00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:10,359
was gonna be saying tonight. But I guess Shiloh could

480
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,599
make it work. He's weird enough to make it work.

481
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,160
So there is that.

482
00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: You know.

483
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: I understand AD, you know, AD revenue, sponsorships and all

484
00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:24,319
that good fun stuff, But man, I don't know. You know,

485
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,000
I said I wasn't gonna talk anymore about raw, but

486
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,960
you know what I'm gonna It was like every time

487
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,000
you they start, they come back from commercial and the

488
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:37,359
show gets a bit of momentum. Man commercial break, I

489
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:42,519
like was going nuts last night. I ended up starting

490
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:44,640
the show but forty five minutes late, so I could

491
00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:47,599
skip the ads and I'm picking up my remote like

492
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,079
every five minutes. It was insane. I'm glad I Nextd's

493
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:54,160
still a lot of ads, but it's not. I don't

494
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,880
feel like it's nearly as bad. Then again, I watch

495
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,200
on the Netflix at uh watch it. Then again, I

496
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,720
watched Raw on the AD no ads too, and I

497
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:07,799
still get a shipload of ads with BRAW, but with

498
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:10,519
the XT I don't. So maybe that's what it is.

499
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:14,000
So somebody watched on CW or something might be like, Nate,

500
00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:15,440
what are you talking about? There's a ton of ads,

501
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:20,079
but but yeah, like just so many of them.

502
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,279
Speaker 3: But anyway, NXT to bring in the next hardcore match

503
00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:28,359
to bring out the KFC table, well.

504
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:31,119
Speaker 2: Well maybe they get to do that KFC branded chairs

505
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,519
not encroach on the slim gym territory or something.

506
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:38,759
Speaker 3: We're getting way off target here, Oh yeah, yeah we are.

507
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:43,799
Speaker 2: We're going off the rails here, all right. We love Izzy,

508
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:49,000
we love Lizzie. Lizzie defeated Izzy and I've said Izzy

509
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:56,519
a lot, so I'm gonna stop anyway. Uh uh go

510
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:59,519
to our second match of the night, Miles Bourne defeating

511
00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:04,720
Cam in fourteen minutes and thirty eight seconds with the

512
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:10,799
born again Milesbourne retained the North American championship. They were

513
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:15,000
They pointed out on commentary that he is now surpassed

514
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:20,079
Tony and somebody else. There's one other person that he surpassed.

515
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:22,279
I can't remember who they mentioned, but one was Tony

516
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:26,839
D'Angelo as the ninth longest reigning NXT North American Champion,

517
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,400
which I thought was, Oh, I think it might have

518
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:36,559
been dumb. It might have been dumb, actually, but but yeah,

519
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:39,839
I thought that was a little a weird milestone to

520
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,400
point out. And it also honestly made me think he

521
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:44,160
was going to lose the match when they pointed that

522
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:49,759
out because it was so obscure, like the ninth longest rain,

523
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:54,119
maybe the second longest rain, fifth longest rain, it's a stretch,

524
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:59,920
but ninth whatever. I think this is a cam continue

525
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,759
to impress me. Uh, every time I see him in

526
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:06,839
the ring, I don't know. I think they've got something

527
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,200
there with him. He definitely has the charisma and he

528
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,519
can go in the ring to to be like, you know,

529
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,440
to be a star and and and hey join Maxine

530
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:24,279
up on the main roster. This what was it?

531
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: Oh?

532
00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: Right, Tavion? Uh, Tavian ends up Sorry, Mason Rook ends

533
00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:35,400
up coming down to the ring because earlier in the

534
00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:37,279
night we had a bit of a backstage segment with

535
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,559
Miles Born and Tavion Heights Uh talking about Cam. Mason

536
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,640
Rook walks in the room and Uh start in the

537
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,519
locker room and basically starts saying how he's gonna go

538
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:53,039
after Cam tonight. They told him, no, don't do that,

539
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:57,359
because if Miles wins tonight, as mister Stone told them

540
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,680
last week, they'll get a shot at the n x

541
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,279
T T Tag Team titles. So like, no, please don't

542
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:05,720
attack him tonight. Mason Rook makes his way out to

543
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:09,200
the to the ring walk or starts walking down the

544
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:16,720
aisle anyway. Tavion Heights stops him midway and Uh. Shortly thereafter,

545
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:20,480
we get the Born again for the win. Then afterwards

546
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:25,720
we saw the tag team champions and Vanity Project and

547
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,880
Jackson Drake along with my Lockwood come out and attack

548
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,359
everybody or attack Born and Tavion.

549
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: And UH.

550
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:40,559
Speaker 2: Born and Born and Tavion eventually cleared them from the

551
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,039
ring as we moved on to the next segment.

552
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,880
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570
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:40,839
Speaker 2: So we're gonna We're gonna have that tag team match

571
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:46,319
coming up. I I don't I don't know. I'm I

572
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,960
can't see Vanity Project losing these titles yet, I don't

573
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,799
think they've even defended them since they got them. If

574
00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:59,200
they did, it's only been once. The last handful of

575
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,799
weeks have been kind of a blur for me, So

576
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,000
maybe they did, I don't know. But if they haven't,

577
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,359
if they've only, if they haven't defended them, they've only

578
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,559
defended them once, so I don't know. I don't see

579
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:14,840
them losing the titles just yet, and I also don't

580
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:19,639
necessarily see them making Born a dual champion. So I'm

581
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,400
thinking there's going to be some dissension because I still

582
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,039
think it's gonna be Tavion that takes the North American

583
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:29,000
title off of Miles Bourne, So I think they're gonna

584
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:31,599
have There's gonna be something that goes on in the

585
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:36,840
match where there's a miscommunication, mistiming or something, and that

586
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:39,880
feud between tavan and Bourne is gonna either kick off

587
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:42,599
right then and there during that match or after the match,

588
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,119
or it's going to be the catalyst that kind of

589
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,280
keeps those interactions happening over the next you know, a

590
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,480
few weeks where you know they kind of seem like

591
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:57,400
the one's going to turn on the other, and then

592
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,679
you know eventually get that North American title match, that's

593
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,199
my guess. But you know, we'll see where we go

594
00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:06,800
from there. So let me throw it over to you

595
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:10,760
on Miles Bourne, Tavon Cam and Mason Rook.

596
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,599
Speaker 3: Well, I've been watching Cam Hendrick since he debuted and

597
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,440
evolve along, you know, several months ago at least, and

598
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,440
immediately recognized that this kid has it, He's got this attitude.

599
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,840
He definitely as they gave him a chance to prove

600
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:34,719
Tonight has the athletic ability and you saw a little bit.

601
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,800
They gave the match enough breathing room to let him

602
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,840
show what he what he can do in the ring.

603
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:47,079
And if you saw that that huge slam that chokes

604
00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:50,039
my variation, that that really wild the crowd right there.

605
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:53,760
But he is very, very good. I can definitely see

606
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,679
Cam Hendricks being on the main roster someday. He is

607
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:05,440
just he's got that much talent. He gets it. I'm

608
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,440
not surprised. I knew that, you know, Mason Rook would

609
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,360
you know, get in somehow, But I didn't the way

610
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,880
everything went down, I didn't really see it going down

611
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,039
that way. So but I no complaints. You know, Born

612
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:24,199
retains with the Born Again and then you know, heights.

613
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:27,199
Then he tells me, okay, now you can go kill,

614
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:32,119
and Brooke obligeses and goes in there and attacks can.

615
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:34,599
But then, of course, of any project to her backstage,

616
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,519
you know, bitching to Stone earlier about even having to

617
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:42,079
defend their titles, of course they run out and try

618
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:44,360
to get their two cents worth in and you know,

619
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,280
winds up being a big you know, kind of big

620
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,199
smiles at the end.

621
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you will. We'll see who do you

622
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,199
think wind up winning the tag team title match?

623
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,519
Speaker 3: Uh No, I'm gonna go with the Vanity Project all

624
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:01,800
the way. I think you're a scenario. I don't think

625
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,239
they're done with the like you said, they're not done

626
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,119
with the Born and Hest thing. I think they they

627
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,639
kind of try to pull it, I don't know, you know,

628
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,559
and try to kind of pull the bull over eyes

629
00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:16,400
a little bit and maybe think that they've you know, hey,

630
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,840
they're back together and they're all bosom buddies again. But yeah,

631
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,239
I just I don't I think, yes, something's gonna happen.

632
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,760
I mean, with the Many Project out there, and like

633
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:33,480
you said, Michael Luckwood specifically, who could squat a small

634
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:42,079
mini bus seriously, I think she could probably could. Yeah,

635
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,639
I think she's. Her legs are like bigger than any

636
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,480
male wrestlers I've ever seen. I believe she is. She

637
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,519
is just one big pile of muscle. It's really scary.

638
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,719
So when she not trying to get to not trying

639
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,079
to get let my adah get the best of me here.

640
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:02,159
Speaker 2: But you know, there's there's two of us here, so

641
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,719
that's why we keep going off the rails.

642
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 3: Well, you remember a while back when she picked up

643
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:09,480
what's his face?

644
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: Not?

645
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,039
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, help me out people. Who was it

646
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:16,960
that she picked up and slammed on the floor.

647
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:20,519
Speaker 2: Oh I remember, but I can't remember who it was

648
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,079
Jasper Toy?

649
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Jasper Toy and slammed him like

650
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,239
he was a cruiseway in my Holy Moly. But yeah,

651
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,199
there'll be some shenanigans there that the Many project will pull.

652
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:37,599
There'll be a miscommunication something like that, and I think

653
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:40,320
it'll be you know, again, you have Bourn Heights, and

654
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,320
with your scenario of Heights taking the title off of Bourn,

655
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,199
I think that's gonna how that's gonna play out?

656
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I I do too. Good fellow brings up

657
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,920
in the chat, Miles been awesome and has made many strides,

658
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:56,960
but I can see Jackson, Jake, Jackson Drake taking Miles belt.

659
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,039
So if they don't go with the Tavon route, I

660
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:05,800
I don't Jackson Drake wasn't the next person I necessarily

661
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,960
thought of. Then again, I think I'm so locked in

662
00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:10,320
on the idea of Tavion. I wasn't really thinking anybody else,

663
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:16,000
but I could, I could get behind that Jackson Drake.

664
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:18,559
I mean, Vanity Project as a whole is have have

665
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:21,719
kind of started to get themselves over and I feel

666
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,280
like they haven't got as much TV time in the

667
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,960
last few weeks, but but still, you know, they're in

668
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:30,960
high profile spots. And Jackson Drake, I mean he he

669
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,519
is the standout of the group. And I mean all

670
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:35,760
of them are great, but he is the standout of

671
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,920
the group. I if they want to push you know,

672
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:43,000
Jackson and in Vanity Project, I wouldn't be opposed to

673
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:47,039
you know, Jackson either either defeating Miles for the belt

674
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:50,280
or defeating whoever defeats Miles for the belt a little

675
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,079
bit later on down the line. But I could see,

676
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:57,280
definitely see him being North American Champion. Anything on that.

677
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: I would love to see and become the North American

678
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,320
champion and see the Vanity Project having all the gold.

679
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,760
They are the most wonderful heel faction I have seen

680
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,760
in so long. They are so obnoxious and so snarky,

681
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:19,679
and as I said before, Brad Baylor has a face

682
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,639
that just you want to punch. Yeah, and he and

683
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,320
he knows it, and they're such a great heel trio.

684
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,119
I would love to see them take all the gold

685
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,519
if yeah, if they don't go with with with heights,

686
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:37,320
Jackson Drake is is outstanding. Again. I've seen the Vanity

687
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,400
Project from day one and evolve, watched the young people

688
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,039
fall out and you know, and different people come in

689
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,480
and it's been a huge improvement and they've done a

690
00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:54,119
fantastic job. And they are definitely main roster bound.

691
00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely absolutely so. I uh yeah, I I could

692
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,880
definitely see them on the main roster. I still think

693
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,559
they need to be have a little bit more time

694
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:07,760
in nxtve get fleshed out a little bit more. But

695
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,639
I mean, if they're on the main roster next year, I.

696
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: Like they're not there yet. They're not there yet, but

697
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:18,440
they are, but they are well on their way, So

698
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:21,639
they just keep doing what they're doing. They've already got

699
00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:26,199
their their teamwork. If you've not seen them, Baylor and Smokes,

700
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,000
they remind me of a young modern version of them

701
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,599
mid not express with their teamwork. Yeah, I could see

702
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:39,760
very very very good, very good, excellent TeamWorks, you know,

703
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:42,800
and Jacks and Drake is phenomenal in the ring as well.

704
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:46,679
So they've got the talent, they've got the attitude, they

705
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,519
can make it all the way to the job.

706
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 2: And they got the enforcer to help them win all

707
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,360
that gold.

708
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, help, did she see the look that she

709
00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:59,079
gave Keanu Carver in Stone's office?

710
00:41:59,480 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: I did.

711
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 3: I did talk a little bit.

712
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, pile driver peats like she's gonna slam Keanu. Yeah,

713
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,639
a little up down as a vanity project was walking

714
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,039
out of mister Stone's office. So actually, let me let

715
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:21,039
me say so vanity project kind of. They were complaining

716
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:25,400
to Robert Stone, objecting to Born in Heights potentially receiving

717
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,280
a tag team title. Shot. Uh. Drake claimed Bourne had

718
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,880
deliberately chosen Hendrix because he knew he'd be able to

719
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,840
defeat him, and reiterated that he that he eventually has

720
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,079
a desire to win the North American Championship. So there

721
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:43,760
we go, uh talking about the North American title. As

722
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,800
they were walking out, Keanu Carver entered and most of

723
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:50,400
I think everybody in the Vanity Project kind of just

724
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:56,199
scattered out of the room a little bit light on, yeah, exactly,

725
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:59,920
except for Lockwood, who kind of gave Keanu an up

726
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:03,199
down and I forget I think it might have been,

727
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,719
Drake said, and she was Jackson.

728
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: Drake said. Drake said, Mikey, you ready, and she said.

729
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 2: I am now, I am now. He walked away, So

730
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,519
we'll see, we'll see what happens with that.

731
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,880
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740
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Speaker 2: That I I don't even know how that would wind

741
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:03,320
up playing out, because I don't want to see Lockwood

742
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:07,360
leave the Vanity Project. She is such she is that

743
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:09,760
final piece of the puzzle for the three of them,

744
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,360
or well the four of them, but she is that

745
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:15,599
final piece of the puzzle in the group. And the

746
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:22,199
group was great anyway, but she like puts that extra

747
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:28,920
cherry on top. I exactly exactly, Like I know, I've

748
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,920
said it a few times, you said it before. She

749
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:36,840
she is China and to the Vanity Project's d X,

750
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:42,400
and I I don't want to see her leave. If

751
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,599
she gets into something with Keanu. I don't know how

752
00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:51,360
that's necessarily gonna work. I'm interested to see it, but

753
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,119
as long as it doesn't hurt the group and and

754
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:59,199
the pairing of Vanity Project and Lockwood, then yeah, I'm

755
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,719
okay with it. But that's gonna be that's gonna be

756
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,679
interesting to see how it plays out. Any idea.

757
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 3: No, No, that was just a very interesting comment. It

758
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,320
just that was I don't know what she meant by that,

759
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:16,199
but I'm like, I wonder what she needs by that.

760
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,400
So I'm kind of looking looking forward to see if

761
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,960
they follow through on this one.

762
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we'll see, we shall see. All right, let's

763
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:33,119
keep on keeping on. I was gonna go to the

764
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,960
all right, before we go to that match, Actually, before

765
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,400
we go to the match, let's go to email. We

766
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:44,519
got an email from Brian Austen. Brian says, hello, Natean David,

767
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:47,159
what do you think about Mike Santana changing his name

768
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:51,239
to Cruiz Montana. Eh, and we already talked about a

769
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,480
little bit. Uh. The iw C was not happy about it.

770
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:57,159
W w E stripping another wrestler of their names.

771
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

772
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,639
Speaker 2: Santana explained the name name honors his father. Oh, okay,

773
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:03,440
I didn't realize.

774
00:46:03,079 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 3: That would have been nice to know.

775
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I they must have done something done on

776
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:10,280
social media or something like that, because I don't remember.

777
00:46:10,639 --> 00:46:13,440
I don't remember seeing anything hearing anything about the name

778
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:16,800
on on TV tonight. He says, I don't have a

779
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,400
problem with the name changes. On the business side, WWE

780
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:21,960
wants to market their wrestlers with unique monikers, and the

781
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,360
wrestler has their input on the name. Blake Monroe's first

782
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,920
name is the same as her niece. Some wres some

783
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:31,119
wrestlers might want to start fresh with an uh, start

784
00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:34,039
with a fresh I D and David as the WWE

785
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:37,559
Evolved contributor, what are your thoughts on the new Evolved Champion,

786
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:38,519
Harlem Lewis.

787
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: Mmmm. When we go to the Harlem Lewis question, I

788
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,679
as much as I hated to see Aaron Warrick lose

789
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,039
the Evolved Championship because I thought he really grew in

790
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,440
to a very confident champion. I loved the attitude that

791
00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:03,280
he had. But let me tell you something, he and

792
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:07,000
Harlem Lewis prior to their title match cut one of

793
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:10,840
the best face to face promos that I've seen in

794
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,480
a long time. It was honest. It made you feel

795
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:16,079
for both of them. It made you believe in both

796
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:21,480
of them, and especially in Lewis. He's got a great backstory,

797
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,360
he's got a great look, He's got it in the ring.

798
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:26,880
As I was saying, as much as I hate to

799
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,519
see Aaron work lose the title, I was glad to

800
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:32,360
see Harlem Lewis win it because I think he again,

801
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,760
he is someone I've seen since the first day of

802
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:40,239
the Evolved reboot, and I've seen him progress and we've

803
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,800
learned about who he is and what he's all about.

804
00:47:44,039 --> 00:47:47,039
And I think that if he keeps working once again,

805
00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:50,480
it won't be long before he will wind up in NXT.

806
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:53,159
He is very good. I was happy to see that

807
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:53,639
for him.

808
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah sucks. They because I, as everybody probably knows, I've

809
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,159
had a lot going on in the past few weeks.

810
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,119
I haven't like, I haven't even really had a chance

811
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:06,480
to catch up with like real news in real life,

812
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,360
let alone wrestling news. So I didn't even realize that

813
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,039
Aaron Record lost the title yet or lost title already. Uh,

814
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,639
that sucks. That sucks. Aaron is a he's a local boy,

815
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:19,719
so sucks to see.

816
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,199
Speaker 3: But but he will bounce back. He surires me to

817
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:29,599
see him get moved up soon. Because you know, again,

818
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,599
from the first time I saw him, I didn't quite

819
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:37,599
I'm like, okay, it's this a pseudo modern Adrien Street here,

820
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,239
what's going on? And then I saw who he? Then

821
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,880
he you know, they had some fantastic vignettes on him

822
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:49,400
where he you know, took us through his life and

823
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,320
what led him to where he was. It's like, Okay,

824
00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:55,280
you know this guy, he's moving up for sure. But yeah,

825
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,320
Rourke will be moving up soon, I'm sure. But yeah,

826
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,519
Harlem Lewis, he's very much just stand out evolved Right.

827
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,599
Speaker 2: Now, you want to talk ADHD. Now I'm singing the

828
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:12,000
Jefferson's name, he said, Moving on, It's going on in

829
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:18,800
my head anyway. We got one more Kevin Cattani salutations, gents.

830
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,000
I hope this email finds you well. Tonight was rocking,

831
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,639
and after all this time, Nate and I finally got

832
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,920
our dream match of Izzy versus Lizzie. It's like, I

833
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,039
think it's time for tag team Team Purple Rain.

834
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 3: I got go with that.

835
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm happy. I'm also happy that they're continuing to give

836
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,519
OTM work. I know that they've also been working in

837
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:43,400
Triple A two, but I think they still have a

838
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,679
lot to give. Where do you guys stand on OTM? Lastly,

839
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,719
I seem to have missed the mark on Mike Santana

840
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,840
last week because it wasn't a TNA share. It was

841
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,639
a full blown intro. I love the story on Cruise's

842
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,800
new name, and I hope you shoot gets Shoots right

843
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,159
to the moon. How does everybody know the name? The

844
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,199
story on the name.

845
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: I thought I heard somebody on TV mentioned it tonight,

846
00:50:03,039 --> 00:50:04,719
but I didn't know what they were talking about.

847
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,159
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, I I totally didn't like I didn't

848
00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:12,519
hear that at all, because like that was that was

849
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:14,679
one of my big gripes about it. It's like, give

850
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,920
us a reason for the name change. But uh, okay, cool. Well,

851
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,239
I mean, if it's a tribute to his dad, then hey,

852
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,039
I'm all for it. Where do we stand on OTM?

853
00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:28,480
I love OTM. I love what they're doing right now.

854
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,800
I like, you know, it's been a stop and start

855
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,559
thing with OTM this whole time since I mean they

856
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,719
say this whole time since they've debuted. You know, there

857
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,840
was some injuries and stuff in there, but I feel

858
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,320
like every time they get momentum, something gets undercut from them.

859
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,360
Now they're actually getting some TV time, They're getting some storylines,

860
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:53,039
you know, and and I think they're you gonna I'm

861
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:56,159
wondering if it is the end for OTM. Where you know,

862
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,760
he Bronco has joined the faction and I can't remember

863
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,480
what it's called in Triple A. Has something to do

864
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:05,239
with dogs.

865
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,639
Speaker 3: I know that, pero.

866
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,639
Speaker 2: I think if my elementary school Spanish serves me well,

867
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:18,599
But like it we saw so, you know, we've kind

868
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:21,400
of seen some dissension in the ranks between OTM over

869
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,599
the past couple of weeks because of Bronco going down

870
00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:30,960
to Triple A and the reason I brought all that. Actually, no,

871
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:32,199
I was going to bring it up and then I

872
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,280
went to emails instead. I was going to bring up

873
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,960
this backstage segment with OTM where Garza and Berto walked in.

874
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,280
You know, they kind of fist bumped with Nima, but

875
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:49,760
they they weren't. We saw some glances, not some friendly glances,

876
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:55,679
but some glances between Lucian Price and Berto and Garza.

877
00:51:56,599 --> 00:52:00,920
Berto and Garza they made during their match, which I guess.

878
00:52:03,519 --> 00:52:07,199
I guess I'm getting confused because I keep going to

879
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,159
throw to too many things. So before I go and well,

880
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,840
before we talk about the match, let me throw to

881
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:13,760
you on the email.

882
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,119
Speaker 3: First, I forgot what it was.

883
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: Now I kept talking, so I don't I don't blame you,

884
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:21,920
I I.

885
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:28,519
Speaker 3: So, No, I talked about I talked about the you know,

886
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:29,559
Harlem Lewis thing.

887
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that was the last email.

888
00:52:33,039 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 3: This one.

889
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: This one was what do we do? Where do we

890
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:41,480
stand on ot M? Yeah? The only question I'll tell you.

891
00:52:41,519 --> 00:52:43,079
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what turn you want to know? What

892
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:47,239
got me interested in o TM? The Emily A Guard

893
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:51,920
segment from several weeks ago. That to me was what

894
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,840
got them over. That's what got them over with me.

895
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,599
That's what got Keanu Carver over with me. I love

896
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:01,960
those segments he has been doing. Hopefully they do more

897
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:05,320
than But since then, I've cared about otim. I've just

898
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,880
been able to distinguish one from the other suddenly their

899
00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:16,760
unique personalities and which is what they needed. Yeah, they're

900
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,559
teasing a lot of dissension there. Looked like Berto and Garza,

901
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,679
as he said, they you know, they were glad handing

902
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,000
with Nima. Then they kind of, you know, kind of

903
00:53:27,039 --> 00:53:29,199
gave him, you know, a little bit of a side

904
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:33,119
eye there, kind of you know, very suspicious, very wary

905
00:53:33,559 --> 00:53:38,400
glance there. So and I have to admit that I

906
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,480
don't know the situation in Triple A right now, if

907
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:45,800
not between NX and Evolve and Ron smacknow has been

908
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,960
hard to catch anything else. But I'm not sure what

909
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:50,519
the situation is down there with Triple A right now.

910
00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:55,960
But apparently uh, you know, Price and uh Nimur, you know,

911
00:53:56,199 --> 00:53:58,480
one of them is working down there and they're kind of,

912
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,400
you know, splitting their time, and you know that's obviously

913
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,039
being tused. It is the source of tension. I don't

914
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:07,440
want to see them broken up. I like O team together.

915
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,519
I don't think they have to break up every single

916
00:54:10,639 --> 00:54:14,440
team that comes along and succeeds. Okay, well you know

917
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,000
that's been done, you know, to everyone for the last

918
00:54:18,199 --> 00:54:21,639
twenty thirty years, So yeah, you can stop anytime now

919
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,400
with that. I like him, I'd like to see them.

920
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,880
I think it could be a fantastic team on the

921
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:29,440
main roster.

922
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: You know that last segment you're just listening to and

923
00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:35,559
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Speaker 2: No, I agree, I definitely agree. Like I like the

938
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,599
two of them together. Somebody in the pile drive rep

939
00:55:22,679 --> 00:55:25,519
of the chats as Bronco definitely shows more personality. I

940
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:29,519
agree with that. You know, I think he probably is

941
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,559
more of the standout. Nothing against Price, like, I think

942
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:37,440
Price is still good. But I think maybe they want

943
00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:39,679
to try and break them up and have maybe a

944
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,320
Bronco go like a single star or something like that.

945
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:46,079
I don't necessarily know if I see him as a

946
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:48,360
single star right now, but that then again, I haven't

947
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:53,679
really thought much about it before tonight. I guess I

948
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:56,400
just see him as you know, see him with OTM,

949
00:55:56,559 --> 00:56:01,960
Like that's just where my mind goes. But maybe they

950
00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:04,079
want to try and do something like that, break him off,

951
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,679
you know, with with Berto.

952
00:56:05,559 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: And uh comes down to the sum not being equal

953
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,599
to the parts when it comes to oh TM. Really,

954
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,199
I think they're very good as the team.

955
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 2: I don't know how one would do one on their own.

956
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't don't see either one of them doing.

957
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,960
I mean, you know, I would favor Nima, but but

958
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,280
really not much yeah, no for sure.

959
00:56:34,039 --> 00:56:38,639
Speaker 2: Speaking of OTM, Birthrate defeated OTM in about nine minutes

960
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,199
and three seconds. And our third match of the night,

961
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:48,079
this was uh Stax and Finley's kid the hell's his

962
00:56:48,199 --> 00:56:53,400
name Connors? Riah Connors. That's it. Can picture picture him

963
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,599
in the stupid mustache, clear as they could not think

964
00:56:55,599 --> 00:57:01,719
of the name. But uh so Stacks and Honors versus OTM,

965
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,000
Bronco and Nima got the I think got the lion's

966
00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:10,840
share of the match, especially towards the beginning, like I

967
00:57:11,639 --> 00:57:13,960
like I started to say in the towards the end

968
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,760
of the match, Garza and Berto made their way to ringside.

969
00:57:18,239 --> 00:57:22,559
Uh Nima abandoned his his position at ringside to go

970
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:27,400
and confront them, leaving Price vulnerable, and Price wound up

971
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:33,679
getting getting hit by I think it was Stacks. I'm

972
00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:35,719
gonna say it was Stacks in the ring allowed him

973
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:41,360
to score the okay, and uh, you know, afterwards, you

974
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,000
could see the Price was kind of clearly upset, like

975
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:47,199
Nima was helping him up off the ground. He was

976
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,679
kind of he had this bit of like dazed look

977
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,320
on his face. So obviously selling the finish, but he

978
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,280
kind of like looked up at him like, dude really

979
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,480
really does look at least on his face. Didn't say it,

980
00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:04,239
but that was what his expressions said it all. So,

981
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:07,920
you know, I think it was a solid match. You know,

982
00:58:08,039 --> 00:58:11,119
I I really like what Birthright's doing right now too,

983
00:58:12,199 --> 00:58:15,639
you know, the solid mid card faction. I think there's

984
00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:18,920
definitely a place for solid mid card factions in wrestling.

985
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:27,719
So definitely cool with that. I guess I need to

986
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,440
catch up with Triple A because I haven't since God.

987
00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:33,760
I think that whatever their last p l E was

988
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,599
because I think the last Triple A show that I watched,

989
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:39,079
So I kind of do need to catch up with

990
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,159
with all of that. Ryan is giving me permission to

991
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:46,639
say Humberto, and I think I probably should because Berto,

992
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,960
I don't know, almost reminds me of Berto from Mario

993
00:58:52,440 --> 00:59:01,239
and Berto is not pink wearing a bow anyway, Shiloh,

994
00:59:02,239 --> 00:59:03,360
did I throw to you on the match?

995
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 3: No, but there's not really that mess to say, you know,

996
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,599
it was it was good. Uh, Connors and Stacks are

997
00:59:12,639 --> 00:59:16,039
both you know, they're great. They make a great team. Uh,

998
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:21,480
birth Right, it's a good mid card faction. Uh, wasn't

999
00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:24,599
a whole lot to this much other than the Anglothean

1000
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:30,079
with with Berto and Uh and uh guards are coming

1001
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:33,440
out there and kind of just standing around while Price

1002
00:59:33,519 --> 00:59:36,039
looked like he was not very happy about how the

1003
00:59:36,159 --> 00:59:36,760
match ended.

1004
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, are were? We only had four matches tonight.

1005
00:59:42,519 --> 00:59:44,960
Our fourth match of the night was Shiloh Hill versus

1006
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:49,480
Tristan Angels. Shiloh got the win in about ten minutes

1007
00:59:49,559 --> 00:59:54,119
and twenty seconds with a thunderbreaker off the top rope,

1008
00:59:54,239 --> 01:00:00,960
a super thunder breaker from super thunder Justice. I still

1009
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,079
can't believe his name is thunder Justice and that's not

1010
01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:05,800
his ring name, but whatever, Shiloh Hill, Chiloh Hill is

1011
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,639
still good. But how can your real name be thunder

1012
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:16,239
Justice and you don't use it anyway? So yeah, Tristan

1013
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,280
Angels started kind of targeting Sharlow Hill's neck beginning and

1014
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,599
head throughout the course of the match. You work the

1015
01:00:23,679 --> 01:00:27,480
body part, all for that? Definitely all for that. I'd

1016
01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:29,719
love to actually see that a little bit more in

1017
01:00:30,599 --> 01:00:37,440
at least WWE anyway working a body part. We ended

1018
01:00:37,519 --> 01:00:42,079
up getting the Hill. Yeah, Sharlow Hill ended up hitting

1019
01:00:42,199 --> 01:00:46,199
is like standing in four to fifty four fifty hit

1020
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,679
a world's strongest slam on the announced desk. There's a

1021
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,400
lot of kind of just a lot going on in

1022
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,840
the match. Angels tried to steal the victory by putting

1023
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,760
his feet on the ropes, but Hill was able to

1024
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,559
escape and then hit a pop up punch into the

1025
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,280
super Thunderbreaker for the win.

1026
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 3: He'll he.

1027
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 2: I think this was a good to visit, like a

1028
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,719
good solid wind for Shiloh Hill after losing his tooth,

1029
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,519
even though he headed back tonight. I guess he must

1030
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:21,360
have more than one denture especially.

1031
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:23,519
Speaker 3: Didn't.

1032
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:27,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right, yeah, I think that that makes sense.

1033
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:32,199
That makes sense. That's yeah, right, that's right. I kind

1034
01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:39,199
of forgot about that from last week. That, uh, I think,

1035
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:44,000
I think any other like time I remember, but oh

1036
01:01:44,599 --> 01:01:49,360
my brain is mush lately. This is my first week

1037
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,039
back to work, and I went back to work to

1038
01:01:52,519 --> 01:01:57,000
seven hundred and fifty seven emails and I just finished

1039
01:01:57,039 --> 01:02:04,079
getting through them today, like brands still spinning from that.

1040
01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:07,639
So anyway, you know, I think it's a good match.

1041
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,760
I like the I like the pairing of Tristan Angels

1042
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,880
and Shiloh Hill. You know, they they play off each

1043
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:19,480
other very well. They're completely polar opposite characters. This feels

1044
01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:22,239
like it might be the end of the feud between them,

1045
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,800
at least for now. It's always something they could go

1046
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,480
back to, but this, I don't know, It feels like

1047
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:30,320
it could end of the feud. Where you know, the

1048
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,199
tooth was, the whole tooth thing is all taken care

1049
01:02:33,239 --> 01:02:36,320
of at this point. So let me throw to you

1050
01:02:36,519 --> 01:02:39,079
on the match, and do you think this is the

1051
01:02:39,199 --> 01:02:39,679
end of the feud.

1052
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:43,079
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it was a good, solid match.

1053
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:47,199
It was almost a throwback of sorts in that they

1054
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,480
worked a very basic style. Course, you know, Hill got

1055
01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:56,559
into that fancy splash of his, but they work very

1056
01:02:56,639 --> 01:03:02,280
well together. Angels. I mean, we've all seen the British

1057
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,000
heel thing done, you know, over and over and over

1058
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:08,920
and over again. But man, just Angels put a great

1059
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:13,119
twist on it. He is he's just he's got that

1060
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,360
down pat He's great in the ring. He looks good.

1061
01:03:16,519 --> 01:03:22,440
He's got a great look Shiloh Hill. He's got one

1062
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,760
of the greatest characters of recent memory. That just seems organic.

1063
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,519
It's just you can somehow believe that that that's really him.

1064
01:03:32,119 --> 01:03:35,800
So yeah, I'm really good. I'm hoping. I wouldn't mind

1065
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,880
seeing them wrestle each other more. But if it seemed

1066
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,159
a few and they go their separate ways, then there

1067
01:03:41,199 --> 01:03:43,800
are other things for them to move on to, for sure.

1068
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,239
But yeah, it was good seeing us Shallow get a

1069
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,000
definitive victory like that tonight.

1070
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 2: That definitely is who Shiloh Hill is. Obviously. I think

1071
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:57,000
he's turned up to eleven as as good wrestling gimmicks are.

1072
01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:01,840
But you know, my my buddy Jobn like found first

1073
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,760
heard of Shiloh Hill years ago following some of like

1074
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:11,400
the creepy pasta horror story ship that he posts on

1075
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:14,920
like Reddit and social media and stuff. I think it

1076
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,639
was actually their sister that had found them originally and

1077
01:04:18,719 --> 01:04:22,679
then showed Jobun about it. But like and then yeah,

1078
01:04:22,679 --> 01:04:25,280
all of a sudden, like there he is on TV.

1079
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:30,159
Like he's definitely an out there character in real life.

1080
01:04:32,159 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1081
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like following him on social media is great. Like

1082
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,440
I I don't really know much about like the creepy

1083
01:04:40,519 --> 01:04:44,840
pasta horror stuff that that he does, but like a

1084
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,639
lot of the stuff on social media that he's done

1085
01:04:46,679 --> 01:04:49,000
with like Tatum Paxley and things like that has been

1086
01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:51,320
just unreal.

1087
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: It was so good. So got take a look.

1088
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,559
Speaker 2: Yes, not that I want to force anybody to go

1089
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:06,239
to social media for anything because ugh. But yeah, all right,

1090
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,519
So those are the end of the matches for the night.

1091
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:14,519
We talked about that that we got next week Lola

1092
01:05:14,639 --> 01:05:18,559
Ice and Kendall Gray in an underground match. We had

1093
01:05:18,599 --> 01:05:20,960
a bit of a segment with It was a pre

1094
01:05:21,119 --> 01:05:27,239
tape segment Lola Ice and Kendall Gray. Actually sorry, it

1095
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,519
was two different segments. First one was about Lola Ice,

1096
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,800
about Lolla Ice talking about her trials and tribulations getting

1097
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,239
to where she is, being a former champion and all

1098
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,599
of that stuff, talking about being the I don't know

1099
01:05:40,639 --> 01:05:43,159
if she said Queen of the Underground. I don't know

1100
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,360
something that sticks out in my head for some reason,

1101
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,239
but I'm gonna call her the Queen of the Underground

1102
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,360
match and uh, and that she doesn't she doesn't think

1103
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,280
that Kendall quite understands where Lola has come from and

1104
01:05:55,599 --> 01:06:00,519
what she's endured to get to this spot. Later later

1105
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:04,920
on in the night, Kendall, we saw a video package

1106
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:09,719
on Kendall Gray training and preparing with her coach for

1107
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,159
the match, and kind of in response to in responding

1108
01:06:14,239 --> 01:06:15,280
to Lola Ice.

1109
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:20,559
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1110
01:06:20,599 --> 01:06:22,719
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1111
01:06:23,039 --> 01:06:25,280
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1112
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,239
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1113
01:06:28,599 --> 01:06:31,599
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1114
01:06:31,679 --> 01:06:34,280
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1115
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,159
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1116
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,559
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1117
01:06:39,559 --> 01:06:42,679
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1118
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:47,559
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1119
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1120
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,320
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1121
01:06:56,079 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 2: We also saw Jada Parker and THEA hale me up

1122
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:06,119
in the locker room and kind of, I guess become

1123
01:07:06,239 --> 01:07:08,920
best friends is the best way I can put it.

1124
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:14,199
You know, THEA congratulated Jada on her win last week. Jada,

1125
01:07:14,599 --> 01:07:16,880
you know, basically said THEA is the only one that

1126
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,639
seems trustworthy in the locker room, and she thanked her,

1127
01:07:20,719 --> 01:07:22,440
and you know, Thea's like, oh, thank you, And they

1128
01:07:22,519 --> 01:07:26,320
kind of ended the segment with a Hug. Definitely not

1129
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,639
a pairing that I would expect, And it looks like

1130
01:07:29,679 --> 01:07:31,599
they're going to have a tag team match next week.

1131
01:07:33,079 --> 01:07:37,039
Not a pairing I would necessarily expect, but I'm definitely

1132
01:07:37,159 --> 01:07:40,159
interested in it. I think that after the chemistry that

1133
01:07:40,239 --> 01:07:43,480
we saw on screen between THEA and Jada tonight, I

1134
01:07:43,639 --> 01:07:45,639
really want to see what they can do with that pairing.

1135
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,360
Then one more for one more segment atch as well.

1136
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:56,199
Zaria and Ren Sinclair argue over the championship. We saw

1137
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,360
Zaria walk up to Stone about her next North about

1138
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,840
her next challenger, saying that she wanted a singles match,

1139
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,159
considering she was supposed to have a singles match in

1140
01:08:06,199 --> 01:08:09,199
her last defense, and it got turned into a multi

1141
01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:14,760
person match, and Ren Sinclair walked in basically asking about

1142
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,199
her own Speed Championship defense. So next week I thought

1143
01:08:19,239 --> 01:08:21,399
this was kind of you know what I was going

1144
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:22,680
to say. I thought it was weird, but now I

1145
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,479
think about it, it's not. Next week we see Wren

1146
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:32,159
defend her Speed Championship against Zaria, and if Ren wins,

1147
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,079
she'll be able to get a title shot for the

1148
01:08:35,119 --> 01:08:38,279
North American title against Zaria at a later date. What

1149
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:39,760
I was going to say, was I thought it was

1150
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,960
weird that they're not putting both titles on the line,

1151
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,479
but I kind of forgot that. You know, the Speed

1152
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,039
title has its own set of rules, so I guess

1153
01:08:49,119 --> 01:08:53,800
I can get behind that. We don't defend the North

1154
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:58,119
American title under speed rules, I guess. So I guess

1155
01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:00,760
that kind of makes sense. So so yeah, let me

1156
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,880
throw it to you. On the Csaria Reno Claire segment,

1157
01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:07,319
Jada Parker and THEA Hale and loll of Ice and

1158
01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:07,840
Kendall Gray.

1159
01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:15,399
Speaker 3: Uh, well, I'll go in that order. On the last one. Yeah,

1160
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,800
I thought that was Yeah, it made it made sense

1161
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:22,199
for you know, the Czaria and uh Ran too for

1162
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:25,479
this to play out. And you know, if you remember,

1163
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,960
Dasaria actually pulled rank on on ren with with her

1164
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:32,560
North American belts, this belt kind of trumps the Speed

1165
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:37,079
belt here, so hold tight and so yeah, I like that.

1166
01:09:37,239 --> 01:09:40,600
That's fine. Uh you know that that was fine. The

1167
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:46,760
other uh segment with the with Parker and Hale, I

1168
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:51,159
thought it completely fit THEA Hale's character, you know, being

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01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,680
you know, being that way, so odd pairing. But I think,

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as you said, I think he could actually be a

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fun one. So I'm looking forward to seeing where they

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go on that one from here. The two video segments

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01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,439
on Little Advice and KNT Gray both were very very

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01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:15,359
well done, very good promotional packages, you know, highlighting their

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climb to where they are at this point. I think

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probably a lot of people have heard by now the

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rum wings that Little Advice may be getting called up

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01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:34,119
to the Blue brand here very soon yep. So you know,

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that kind of takes away a little bit of the

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01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,520
mystery of how this match is most likely going to

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turn out next week, with Gray retaining and Advice moving

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01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,680
up to SmackDown. So but still very good, very good

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01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:54,319
go home segments highlighting both women's accomplishments and roads to

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01:10:54,399 --> 01:10:56,159
the top and how they got to where that right now.

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Speaker 2: So I think that brings us to the end of

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all of the talking points on this episode. But there's

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one more that I'm going to bring up because it

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01:11:06,079 --> 01:11:10,159
was a rumor that I saw while I was basically

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in between the end of NXT and the beginning of

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this show, and I meant to bring it up earlier

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and I forgot, but I eventually remembered. So I saw

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rumblings that Aliyah mysterio has been signed to NXT and

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I'm interested. I'm interested to see how that goes. We

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haven't seen her on WWE TV since the whole like

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Buddy Murphy thing, like when Buddy Murphy was Buddy Murphy

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in WWE, so a long time ago at this point, probably.

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Speaker 3: Four years ago or so, I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, probably a little bit longer than that. I

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don't know if that's actually like legit or not. It

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was just something that I saw on Reddit. Somebody posted

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,920
something about one of her friends took a picture of

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her holding a cake with a couple little standees of

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01:12:07,359 --> 01:12:11,319
her in wrestling gear on on the cake and said

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01:12:11,399 --> 01:12:14,760
something about like Aliah, your WWE's problem now or something

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01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:19,039
like that. So I don't know if that'll you know,

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01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,079
there'll be more about that in the near future, but

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it was something I read thought it might be a

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01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:29,479
little interesting. I know I've heard rumblings of her, you know,

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01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,000
wanting to train. Actually, I know that she was talking

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01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,359
about wanting to train. Raymistereo was recently on Chris Van

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Feliet's podcast, I think within the last month or so,

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and he did mention in that interview that Aliyah had

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interest in training, but he didn't really elaborate on it.

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He talked really more about you know, Dom and and

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01:12:49,039 --> 01:12:50,600
when he was talking with his kids anyway, talked a

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01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,000
little bit more about Dom still in character for the

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01:12:54,079 --> 01:12:58,399
most part. But but yeah, that that should be interesting.

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I don't think we haven't. Yeah, we didn't see her

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really in any physicality or anything that I can remember

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from that point in time. So I'm sure it'll be

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a little while before we see her on TV. Even

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if she does get signed, I'm sure they're gonna want to, like,

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you know, shine her up a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But any any thoughts on that, Well, they're definitely not

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going to be changing her name for sure.

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Speaker 2: Oh, definitely not.

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01:13:25,359 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to keep that on there. Said No,

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01:13:28,079 --> 01:13:33,880
I had not heard that. It's a surprise because, as

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01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:39,760
you said, I had not heard of any interest from

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her in getting into wrestling, So I did not know

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01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,000
that that was even you know, on the table. But

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another mysterio in wrestling. Can it possibly be a bad thing?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when when when Don first started,

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01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,720
we were like, you know, he he showed some promise,

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but I I mean, I know, I wasn't super impressed,

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01:14:02,039 --> 01:14:06,960
and now look at where he is you know. So, yeah, definitely,

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01:14:07,239 --> 01:14:10,279
h definitely gonna see where that goes. I'm gonna bring

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up this is the post that I saw, so your

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01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,800
w w's problem now, Leah see you on TV and

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01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:23,760
she's holding the h cake with a couple of standees

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01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,720
of her in Wrestling Gears. So we'll see, we'll see

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where that goes. But I'm not sure, and honestly not

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01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,760
sure if she'll end up in w W or in

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01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,640
n XT or maybe spend some time in the PC

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01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,880
and then wind up on the main roster with her

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01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:42,720
brother and her dad. I don't know. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah,

1247
01:14:43,039 --> 01:14:44,640
that's a good point, or even you know, HIT evolved

1248
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,920
first or something like that. You know, I I would

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01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,720
be more in the camp of probably having her go

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01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:56,239
through the NXT system. I think, you know, uh, Dominic

1251
01:14:56,359 --> 01:14:59,760
probably would have benefited from that a little bit before

1252
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:04,039
going up to the main roster, but definitely, but if

1253
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:06,279
he did, maybe he wouldn't have been in the right

1254
01:15:06,359 --> 01:15:08,920
place at the right time for the whole Judgment day thing,

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01:15:09,079 --> 01:15:11,319
and and you know, we might have gotten a completely

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01:15:11,359 --> 01:15:12,600
different run out of him. I don't know.

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01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, teaming with his dad that we would be

1258
01:15:18,399 --> 01:15:21,640
looking at. You know a former intercurrent champion, current Tripling

1259
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:28,159
Mega Champion. Yeah, no way. So yeah, it's been says.

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01:15:28,319 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 2: Ray says, wrestling has more than one royal family standard,

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01:15:33,039 --> 01:15:38,640
Deviation says good good signing, pile driver Peat, She's a mysterio.

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01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:43,199
She's probably been wrestling since she was like six. Ryan

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01:15:43,399 --> 01:15:46,840
says that Ray says Eliah is a natural, which I

1264
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,399
do remember him saying actually in that Chris van Fleet interview.

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01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,159
Now that Ryan brings it up, good Fella says first

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01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:57,560
ever Evolved a Maine roster could be a cool Mysterio award.

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01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,359
So so yeah, Aliyah potentially making her way to NXT

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01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,880
or at least the WWE in the near future. So

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with that, I think we're gonna end the show there.

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I'm Nate Lindbergh. Check the things I do with Nate

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