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Speaker 2: Talks and XT talks x x x T PWT Talks NXT.
I'm your host for the evening, Nate Lynnberg, and you
can check the things I do at Nate Lynberg dot com.
We're talking NXT for July, I almost said June July
twenty eighth twenty and Wow, what an NXT episode this was.
I think the opening segment, which we'll be talking about momentarily,
was better than the entirety of raw last night, Go
Home show for SummerSlam. Right, anyway, here to talk all
about NXT with me, David Miller. David, thanks for filling
in for Kelly to I appreciate.
Speaker 3: It absolutely, Thanks for having me, Nate.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Grayson Waller. So Grayson Waller
opened the show tonight in like a way that he
kind of like crashed the show. It didn't seem like
it didn't seem like it was a part of the show.
Obviously it was, but the way that they presented it
and everything, it seemed like he crashed the show, grabbed
a mic, stepped into the ring, and cut probably the
best promo of his life, or at least that I've seen.
It seemed like it was a lot. I don't want
to call it a work to shoot promo because I
don't know if it was or not, but it felt
like it if it wasn't. And he went into a
lot of what I would think would be real life
gripes that he actually did have, you know, talking about how,
you know, he spent all this time in NXT building
his name up, goes to the main roster and he
basically has to carry two hundred and forty pounds of
man on his back speaking about Austin theory and you know,
and ended up talking about how good this guy was
and how promoting Austin theory and things like that. He
also threw a mention of a new Day in there,
which I thought was kind of fun, especially considering they're gone.
It still blows my mind. They're gone, but they're gone
then essentially like laid claim for the NXT. NXT title.
I thought this was great. This was completely unexpected. I
haven't really thought about Grease S. Waller a little while,
but I've always really liked Grayson Waller like his time
in NXT. He played a great, great heel, especially in
that NXT two point zero era where we didn't I
don't want to say we didn't have a whole lot
of talent on the NXT roster, but it was a
rebuilding period. Let's go with that. It was a rebuilding
period for NXT at that point, and Grayson Waller was
was a big standout, at least for me anyway. As
part of that two point oh era, Yes, yes, the
Nickelodeon tied I all that good fun stuff, So I
thought that was amazing. Thought it was an absolutely great promo.
It tied into our main event segment of the night
when Cruise Montana the former Mike Santana. I'm not sure
I like the name, but you know what, I tend
to not like most names in n XT recently, So
there's that Cruise Montana the former Mike Santana newest member
to the NXT roster met Tony DiAngelo out in the ring.
They basically had a bit of a back and forth
talking about well, first uh, Cruse Santanna talked about, you know,
making his way to w WE, all the trials and
tribulations that he went through in his personal life, things
that they've covered kind of both on NXT but primarily
on TNA. Some of the things that he went through
in his personal life, you know, kind of talked about
some of that, how he never thought he'd be in
the WWE, but now here he is. Tony comes out
and they have a bit of a back and forth,
you know, talking about talking about the title, Cruz mentioning
that he wants the title, and then we had Grayson
Waller attack and it looked like at one point Cruz
was going to go for this massive clothesline or lariat
on h Cruse Montana or sorry on uh Grayson Waller
rather and Waller ducked out of the way. Cruz winds
up hitting Tony D'Angelo instead, making for a little bit
of h I guess we'll call it confusion a little
bit at the end there where Tony, you know, like
Cruz goes to help Tony up, and Tony like slaps
his hand away. You know, did he do it on purpose?
Didn't he do it? Did he not do it on purpose?
Who knows? I think this is all great stuff. I mean,
going back to the the opening segment with Grayson Waller,
a lot of the things that he talked about were,
you know, the NXT men's division and it being a
little bit on the weak side right now. He specifically
called out how strong the women's division is, which I
thought was great because these are all criticisms that we've
had here on the show, the men's division. Who's gonna
be Tony Dangelo's next opponent. I mean we figured maybe
Mason Rook or something like that, but you know, Mason Brook,
his in ring has wowed me. His mic work necessary
hasn't necessarily wowed me, which is also something Grayson Waller
called out on in that opening segment tonight, not Mason
Brook in particular, but talking about how some indie guys
come in wow everybody with their moves, but then they
can't talk on the mic. I think overall this is
a great use of Grace and Waller. He hasn't really
been doing a whole heck of a lot recently, So
why not give him something to sink his teeth into
something that's meaningful for him and that's also going to
help elevate the NXT brand. I can only imagine Grayson
Waller is having fun with this. Just judging by his
performance tonight, I think he's like, he's got to be
all in on this. So I've talked enough. Let me
throw it over to you, David, and let me find
out or let us find out what you think of
our opening segment and our closing segment.
Speaker 3: Well, I will one up you on that opening segment
with Graason Waller. First of all, yes, that was probably
the last person I expected to show up suddenly on NXT.
Yet there he was, and was he ready. He cut
not only the best promo of his career, but he
cut one of the best promos I've heard in recent
memory from anyone. And yeah, it was you could call
it a workshoot because again, many of the points that
he made were points that have been made on this
podcast and and and in our reports here. And you know,
he called himself, but you know he said he got
called up to the main roster and became a Netflix
ad Break Comedy act and again you know, took credit
for elevating you know, Austin theory, which she really did,
I mean, quite honestly he did. And you know then,
as you said, he really topped up the women's division.
He said, you know, the men's division is is here
for the picking. He said, you know, these women, he said,
the women around here in NXT are running circles around
the men's division. And he is right. He's got a
good point because how many women on the NXT roster
right now do we feel are ready essentially to be
called up to the main roster there? I can think
of more than three or four actually, So he made
some very good points. Yeah, the cute little new day
I mentioned there, and the telling I think he said
something along the lines of telling Tony Dangelil to go
back to his ugly baby or something along say, there's
some real heat seeking comment there that. But yeah, it
was great. You know, they eventually they eventually cut his mic.
You know, I'll see him punk pipe bomb and you know,
so he founded in the nearest camera and stuck his
face in the camera and started talking. So that was excellent.
That was just the most excellent promo I've heard in
ages from anyone. Definitely didn't expect that at of Grayson Waller.
Speaker 2: No, no, neither did I.
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Speaker 2: I like, he's always been good on the mic, always
been good on the mic. But I didn't ever, I
didn't expect him to a give him the time to
cut something like that, because I mean there was a
long segment that it had to have been probably roughly
ten minutes or so, just guessing, But I didn't expect
to see him show up at NXT either. I think
it certainly, Uh, I think it certainly works. Like I said,
I mean, he hasn't been doing a whole heck of
a lot. So if you've got talent like this, utilize
is it? You know, if they're not gonna utilize on
the main roster, then help we'll take it down here
in NXT. Absolutely absolutely so. Yeah, big big thumbs up
from I think both of us on this, this Grace
and Waller thing.
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the cruise Sta Cruz Montana name.
Speaker 3: Well, at first I thought I heard them wrong when
they mentioned because tonight I believe it's the first time
I've heard them actually mentioned his WWE name. You know what,
I wouldn't have a problem with it at all, because
I mean, I'm used to this. It's I mean, first
of all, nothing can be worse than e K Prospers,
So you know, they could cart somebody anything and it
would be a giant improvement over that. But second of all,
you know, so we know they're going to get any
name changed. But the only problem I have with it
is it was not all that long ago that he
was appearing in n XT as Mike Santana. Yep. Now
I don't know about you, but I don't think he
looks anything at all like Tito Santana. So I don't
think the two are gonna get confused U when it
comes to to you know, when it comes to that,
it's just like I said, you know, I understand somebody
like Jakar Jackson going to TNA and taking on you know,
the name of Mara that that's yeah, I know I
get that. But but with you know, big star like Santana,
who was, as they said, former TNA World champion to
come in there just literally I don't know how long
has been since he lost the title. I'm not even
aware of, but it's not been that long since he
even appeared on n XT. So yeah, uh, it's a
tongue twister. It's hard to get used to. I want
to say it about one hundred times so I don't
slip up and say, uh uh Cruse Santana or or
or yeah Mike Mike Montana or some variation of that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I I don't know.
I I'm a hundred like one hundred percent with you
with the Mike Santana that like he showed up not
that long ago as Mike Santana. We didn't and as
I think it, I just had it up on the screen.
Who was said it was goodfella, goodfella said I wish
they explained the meaning of the name since NXT has
seen him as Mike Santana before, which is is basically
what you just said, And I completely agree with that. Like,
if you're gonna change the name, which I understand, w
W wants to own the rights and everything, so okay, fine,
if it is what it is, it's part of the
part of the shtick I guess, coming in, you know,
to the company. But why not, Like I don't know,
why not Mike Cruz or like Mike Mike Montana, even
like not sold on Mike Montana.
Speaker 3: But I guess they already have Cruise del Toro, so
I don't Yeah, I wouldn't have thought they'd have gone
with that. That's why I thought of hurting around at first.
He was on the way. Man, they already have a
Cruise in WW and lord, notice they don't like to
have somebody having the you know, the same first name
or the same last name. They've got to change that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well we do have Izzy and Lizzie.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They made a point of yeah KFC, oh my god, yep.
I'm sure we'll get back to that later too.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well yeah, well we'll hit that match next anyway.
But but yeah, I don't know. I I, like I said,
I understand changing the name because that's what they do,
but I I don't know. I I think they need
to stop letting the NXT town choose their own names.
And I'm not sure if they are or not, but
it feels like they are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you.
Speaker 2: Prosper I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't take responsibility for.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not Like oh, I mean, and if you
don't know what e K stands for It's like what
ch ch prosper what you.
Speaker 3: Know, Like that's the AI pronunciation.
Speaker 2: You know what. B is admitted to using AI to
like help them with their creative So you know what,
maybe maybe we've got like chat shept your claude to
yell at about Eke the e K prosper name. Oh well,
then again somebody had to go. You know what, that's
a good one out of a list that will spit out.
Speaker 3: And anyway, I'd love to see the rejected names.
Speaker 2: Good Ryan, you're fired, Ryan Ran The chat says, e
K prospers growing on me.
Speaker 3: Uh, I do not accept that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, to each their own. If
if it's growing on you, it's growing on yet. But
you're still wrong.
Speaker 3: But we like what like a fungus.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, weird, weird weird? Uh paw driver Pizzas does
cruise eel to work in Triple A. Last I knew
that he was doing some work in Triple A.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the last time I saw I was
in A.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, same, I think it was the last time
I saw him. Anyway, it was in Triple A. I
haven't admittedly it's been a while last night was the
first night in a while that I had tuned into
a live Raw SmackDown, probably in about a month and
a half or so. So, yeah, if he's been on,
i''m not sure. I've caught highlights and things like that,
but haven't necessarily seen everything going on ro our SmackDown
the last last month and a half or whatever. Right, right,
says I'll accept being wrong.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, well maybe if you maybe if we can
find I mean, I will find out where he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe, good fellow, it says Raw was a
tough watch last night. Yeah, yeah, it was. I halfway through,
I'm like, why why am I doing this to myself?
And then the Joe Henry Danhausen segment hit and I
was like, why is anybody doing this to themselves? But well,
we're not here to talk about that. I don't want
to talk about that. Yeah, let's not. Let's not. Let's
go ahead and talk about Izzy versus Lizzy. I'm gonna
scroll up to the very top of my notes here.
Twelve minutes, thirty seven seconds we saw Lizzy go over Izzy.
This was this is a good match, even a little
it's weird reading the time the twelve minutes thirty seven
seconds is I don't know if that feels like doesn't
feel long enough this match. And I don't say that
bad way. This match just felt like it went longer
than that to me. But I think this is a
good match between the two of them. They've got some
pretty good chemistry. The whole Izzy and Lizzy thing. I mean,
we talked about want to talk about confusing names. You know,
I understand, you know, I sure they're different, but they're
close enough. Where Vic kept making he kept calling Lizzy Izzy,
but then would make fun of Booker when he did it,
which I thought was kind of funny. Whatever, But we
saw Nico Vance try to interfere on Izzy's behalf. We
saw then saw Sean Spears come out with a chair
and kind of scare off Nico Vance. That allowed Lizzie
to uh get her Thunderstruck. That's I love that song.
I should remember the name of that finisher. Thunderstruck was
able to get that for the win. I really liked
the Lizzy Rain character. I don't necessarily know if I
like the Lizzy Rain character eating KFC in the back,
but you know, there there's that, so let me I
guess you know, let me throw it. Actually, well, before
I do that, I was n me may as well
read the Lizzy rain segment.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna say, before that, let me get my
KFC over here.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I last week I did that to Kelly.
You started talking about Dan Housen and the teeth, and
then I pulled out my jar teeth. But not a
jar chicken. Not a jar chicken, Lizzy. Uh, Lizzy was
eating chicken, but while being interviewed by Emily a guard backstage,
rain crewdited Shiloh Hill with turning her onto the popcorn chicken. Yeah,
why are they using my favorite?
Speaker 3: Week WE was there? He shared last week I grabbed
all six of those boxes off of stones Gas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the who wants week old chicken? I hope
it was fresh. I hope it was fresh chicken. And
it wasn't the chicken that he stole last week. I
didn't think about that until now. Anyway, people live in
crates for a month on WWE, so I guess chicken
might survive longer than a week. I'm thinking way too
much into this.
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Speaker 2: So, Tristan Angels walked out while she was getting interviewed
by a guard and suggested that she should be eating
tea and sane, which isn't be a little bit more
refined than she is, and he kind of walked off
to do his thing with Shiloh a little bit later
on and kind of ended with both Rain and Agard
just eating popcorn chicken. So I had figured i'd throw
it in to the Izzy and Lizzie match, So let
me throw it to you about is he Lizzie and
the Chicken?
Speaker 3: Well we'll start. We'll start with is he and Lizzie first?
A good match?
Speaker 2: Is he?
Speaker 3: Dame has really come a long way. She even busted
out a couple of new moves tonight that I had
not used before. And she's kind of sits a long
way before I believe she was hanging out with so
was it Keana James many moons ago that she used
to be paired with. But yeah, she's come a long
way from those days, and Lizzie Rain is growing on me.
At first, I thought it was a little bit silly,
a little bit over the top, but she seemed just
a little bit more subdued tonight, which I liked. The
version of ourself tonight obviously a heavy crowd favorite, heavy
heavy crowd favorite. Let me get onto the chicken here,
more serious and more serious. On a more serious note here,
let's get to the KFC.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I think when last week I wondered if they were,
I'm like, oh my god, dude, they are they not aware?
But this week I believe they are aware, and it's
a whole wink wink thing. Hey, we're purposely being over
the top with this, you know, shameless plug for KSC
because it was just, yeah, they couldn't, you know. It's
got to be kind of a wink wink situation, like,
you know, hey, are you on the joke here? Type
type of thing. But that's my take on. At least
I could. But that's what I think.
Speaker 2: I hope so, and I hope this is only like
a month long thing. Like obviously they did it last week,
they're doing it again this week. I'm hoping they're not
gonna be shoehorning popcorn Chicken into promos and matches over
the next few you know, indefinitely.
Speaker 3: And to get back to the end of the match,
I think we kind of cut it off, but as
Nico Vance tried to interfere, he hopped back down to
the floor. And then of course there's this hooded figure
behind him that rises up holding a chair, pulls his
head off and sewn Spear as well. Advance of course
starts begging for his life. Dang gets distracted and that's
how she ate the thunderstruck for the wind there. So
it was good seeing that Spears get another measure of
vengeance on the culling there, out smarting them one more
time here. So I thought that was a nice touch.
Speaker 2: Ryan says, Is it bad that I was eating KFC
while watching the show. No, I think that just means
you're a good fan. You're you're you're buying the products
there they want you to buy. I don't know, Hey,
KFC's good. I mean, I didn't have KFC popcorn Chicken today,
but I did have popcorn Chicken for lunch. Maybe maybe
it was my subconscious I don't know. Goodfella says have
really been growing a joy enjoy Izzy's journey A journey.
I love Ava Rain with the chicken promos, Uh, says
Ava Rain, Avrain, She's gone. Yeah, I kind of forgot
they called her Ava Rain for a while too. Uh
Lizzy Rain. Uh love Izzy Rain, but chicken promos are
a no, even if she's capable and charismatic enough of
doing it. Yeah, I'm like, I don't know. I I
guess it was.
Speaker 3: I thought I thought it was kind of funny, but
only once I realize what they were doing, that they
were doing this on purpose. Uh yeah, I think it's
kind of It's not something I want to see a
lot of. But but you know, what was it? I
believe it was the movie Wayne's World when they were
doing the shameless sponsor for I don't know what it was.
I forget what do you remember?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: Anybody remember what it was? Actually they were.
Speaker 2: Talking about that. They were talking about that in the
chat before we started. I'm scrolling up. Where was it?
Here we go? Was Ryan the one that where Garth
says accepting sponsorship is like corporate greed or something while
he was wearing a lot of advertising.
Speaker 3: That was it? That's what I feel like they're doing
with this and so that, you know, seeing it from
that point of view, I found it. I find it
a little humorous, not something I want to see a
lot of, but I get it. It's cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean I think something like this with
Lizzie works once, but I don't want to see her
be the chicken hill. I don't want to see Shiloh
be the chicken shill either. But if he's it's going
to be if there's going to be somebody that's chilling chicken.
And that is not the sentence that I thought I
was gonna be saying tonight. But I guess Shiloh could
make it work. He's weird enough to make it work.
So there is that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I understand AD, you know, AD revenue, sponsorships and all
that good fun stuff, But man, I don't know. You know,
I said I wasn't gonna talk anymore about raw, but
you know what I'm gonna It was like every time
you they start, they come back from commercial and the
show gets a bit of momentum. Man commercial break, I
like was going nuts last night. I ended up starting
the show but forty five minutes late, so I could
skip the ads and I'm picking up my remote like
every five minutes. It was insane. I'm glad I Nextd's
still a lot of ads, but it's not. I don't
feel like it's nearly as bad. Then again, I watch
on the Netflix at uh watch it. Then again, I
watched Raw on the AD no ads too, and I
still get a shipload of ads with BRAW, but with
the XT I don't. So maybe that's what it is.
So somebody watched on CW or something might be like, Nate,
what are you talking about? There's a ton of ads,
but but yeah, like just so many of them.
Speaker 3: But anyway, NXT to bring in the next hardcore match
to bring out the KFC table, well.
Speaker 2: Well maybe they get to do that KFC branded chairs
not encroach on the slim gym territory or something.
Speaker 3: We're getting way off target here, Oh yeah, yeah we are.
Speaker 2: We're going off the rails here, all right. We love Izzy,
we love Lizzie. Lizzie defeated Izzy and I've said Izzy
a lot, so I'm gonna stop anyway. Uh uh go
to our second match of the night, Miles Bourne defeating
Cam in fourteen minutes and thirty eight seconds with the
born again Milesbourne retained the North American championship. They were
They pointed out on commentary that he is now surpassed
Tony and somebody else. There's one other person that he surpassed.
I can't remember who they mentioned, but one was Tony
D'Angelo as the ninth longest reigning NXT North American Champion,
which I thought was, Oh, I think it might have
been dumb. It might have been dumb, actually, but but yeah,
I thought that was a little a weird milestone to
point out. And it also honestly made me think he
was going to lose the match when they pointed that
out because it was so obscure, like the ninth longest rain,
maybe the second longest rain, fifth longest rain, it's a stretch,
but ninth whatever. I think this is a cam continue
to impress me. Uh, every time I see him in
the ring, I don't know. I think they've got something
there with him. He definitely has the charisma and he
can go in the ring to to be like, you know,
to be a star and and and hey join Maxine
up on the main roster. This what was it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Right, Tavion? Uh, Tavian ends up Sorry, Mason Rook ends
up coming down to the ring because earlier in the
night we had a bit of a backstage segment with
Miles Born and Tavion Heights Uh talking about Cam. Mason
Rook walks in the room and Uh start in the
locker room and basically starts saying how he's gonna go
after Cam tonight. They told him, no, don't do that,
because if Miles wins tonight, as mister Stone told them
last week, they'll get a shot at the n x
T T Tag Team titles. So like, no, please don't
attack him tonight. Mason Rook makes his way out to
the to the ring walk or starts walking down the
aisle anyway. Tavion Heights stops him midway and Uh. Shortly thereafter,
we get the Born again for the win. Then afterwards
we saw the tag team champions and Vanity Project and
Jackson Drake along with my Lockwood come out and attack
everybody or attack Born and Tavion.
Speaker 3: And UH.
Speaker 2: Born and Born and Tavion eventually cleared them from the
ring as we moved on to the next segment.
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna We're gonna have that tag team match
coming up. I I don't I don't know. I'm I
can't see Vanity Project losing these titles yet, I don't
think they've even defended them since they got them. If
they did, it's only been once. The last handful of
weeks have been kind of a blur for me, So
maybe they did, I don't know. But if they haven't,
if they've only, if they haven't defended them, they've only
defended them once, so I don't know. I don't see
them losing the titles just yet, and I also don't
necessarily see them making Born a dual champion. So I'm
thinking there's going to be some dissension because I still
think it's gonna be Tavion that takes the North American
title off of Miles Bourne, So I think they're gonna
have There's gonna be something that goes on in the
match where there's a miscommunication, mistiming or something, and that
feud between tavan and Bourne is gonna either kick off
right then and there during that match or after the match,
or it's going to be the catalyst that kind of
keeps those interactions happening over the next you know, a
few weeks where you know they kind of seem like
the one's going to turn on the other, and then
you know eventually get that North American title match, that's
my guess. But you know, we'll see where we go
from there. So let me throw it over to you
on Miles Bourne, Tavon Cam and Mason Rook.
Speaker 3: Well, I've been watching Cam Hendrick since he debuted and
evolve along, you know, several months ago at least, and
immediately recognized that this kid has it, He's got this attitude.
He definitely as they gave him a chance to prove
Tonight has the athletic ability and you saw a little bit.
They gave the match enough breathing room to let him
show what he what he can do in the ring.
And if you saw that that huge slam that chokes
my variation, that that really wild the crowd right there.
But he is very, very good. I can definitely see
Cam Hendricks being on the main roster someday. He is
just he's got that much talent. He gets it. I'm
not surprised. I knew that, you know, Mason Rook would
you know, get in somehow, But I didn't the way
everything went down, I didn't really see it going down
that way. So but I no complaints. You know, Born
retains with the Born Again and then you know, heights.
Then he tells me, okay, now you can go kill,
and Brooke obligeses and goes in there and attacks can.
But then, of course, of any project to her backstage,
you know, bitching to Stone earlier about even having to
defend their titles, of course they run out and try
to get their two cents worth in and you know,
winds up being a big you know, kind of big
smiles at the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you will. We'll see who do you
think wind up winning the tag team title match?
Speaker 3: Uh No, I'm gonna go with the Vanity Project all
the way. I think you're a scenario. I don't think
they're done with the like you said, they're not done
with the Born and Hest thing. I think they they
kind of try to pull it, I don't know, you know,
and try to kind of pull the bull over eyes
a little bit and maybe think that they've you know, hey,
they're back together and they're all bosom buddies again. But yeah,
I just I don't I think, yes, something's gonna happen.
I mean, with the Many Project out there, and like
you said, Michael Luckwood specifically, who could squat a small
mini bus seriously, I think she could probably could. Yeah,
I think she's. Her legs are like bigger than any
male wrestlers I've ever seen. I believe she is. She
is just one big pile of muscle. It's really scary.
So when she not trying to get to not trying
to get let my adah get the best of me here.
Speaker 2: But you know, there's there's two of us here, so
that's why we keep going off the rails.
Speaker 3: Well, you remember a while back when she picked up
what's his face?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, help me out people. Who was it
that she picked up and slammed on the floor.
Speaker 2: Oh I remember, but I can't remember who it was
Jasper Toy?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Jasper Toy and slammed him like
he was a cruiseway in my Holy Moly. But yeah,
there'll be some shenanigans there that the Many project will pull.
There'll be a miscommunication something like that, and I think
it'll be you know, again, you have Bourn Heights, and
with your scenario of Heights taking the title off of Bourn,
I think that's gonna how that's gonna play out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I I do too. Good fellow brings up
in the chat, Miles been awesome and has made many strides,
but I can see Jackson, Jake, Jackson Drake taking Miles belt.
So if they don't go with the Tavon route, I
I don't Jackson Drake wasn't the next person I necessarily
thought of. Then again, I think I'm so locked in
on the idea of Tavion. I wasn't really thinking anybody else,
but I could, I could get behind that Jackson Drake.
I mean, Vanity Project as a whole is have have
kind of started to get themselves over and I feel
like they haven't got as much TV time in the
last few weeks, but but still, you know, they're in
high profile spots. And Jackson Drake, I mean he he
is the standout of the group. And I mean all
of them are great, but he is the standout of
the group. I if they want to push you know,
Jackson and in Vanity Project, I wouldn't be opposed to
you know, Jackson either either defeating Miles for the belt
or defeating whoever defeats Miles for the belt a little
bit later on down the line. But I could see,
definitely see him being North American Champion. Anything on that.
Speaker 3: I would love to see and become the North American
champion and see the Vanity Project having all the gold.
They are the most wonderful heel faction I have seen
in so long. They are so obnoxious and so snarky,
and as I said before, Brad Baylor has a face
that just you want to punch. Yeah, and he and
he knows it, and they're such a great heel trio.
I would love to see them take all the gold
if yeah, if they don't go with with with heights,
Jackson Drake is is outstanding. Again. I've seen the Vanity
Project from day one and evolve, watched the young people
fall out and you know, and different people come in
and it's been a huge improvement and they've done a
fantastic job. And they are definitely main roster bound.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely absolutely so. I uh yeah, I I could
definitely see them on the main roster. I still think
they need to be have a little bit more time
in nxtve get fleshed out a little bit more. But
I mean, if they're on the main roster next year, I.
Speaker 3: Like they're not there yet. They're not there yet, but
they are, but they are well on their way, So
they just keep doing what they're doing. They've already got
their their teamwork. If you've not seen them, Baylor and Smokes,
they remind me of a young modern version of them
mid not express with their teamwork. Yeah, I could see
very very very good, very good, excellent TeamWorks, you know,
and Jacks and Drake is phenomenal in the ring as well.
So they've got the talent, they've got the attitude, they
can make it all the way to the job.
Speaker 2: And they got the enforcer to help them win all
that gold.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, help, did she see the look that she
gave Keanu Carver in Stone's office?
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 3: I did talk a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pile driver peats like she's gonna slam Keanu. Yeah,
a little up down as a vanity project was walking
out of mister Stone's office. So actually, let me let
me say so vanity project kind of. They were complaining
to Robert Stone, objecting to Born in Heights potentially receiving
a tag team title. Shot. Uh. Drake claimed Bourne had
deliberately chosen Hendrix because he knew he'd be able to
defeat him, and reiterated that he that he eventually has
a desire to win the North American Championship. So there
we go, uh talking about the North American title. As
they were walking out, Keanu Carver entered and most of
I think everybody in the Vanity Project kind of just
scattered out of the room a little bit light on, yeah, exactly,
except for Lockwood, who kind of gave Keanu an up
down and I forget I think it might have been,
Drake said, and she was Jackson.
Speaker 3: Drake said. Drake said, Mikey, you ready, and she said.
Speaker 2: I am now, I am now. He walked away, So
we'll see, we'll see what happens with that.
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Speaker 2: That I I don't even know how that would wind
up playing out, because I don't want to see Lockwood
leave the Vanity Project. She is such she is that
final piece of the puzzle for the three of them,
or well the four of them, but she is that
final piece of the puzzle in the group. And the
group was great anyway, but she like puts that extra
cherry on top. I exactly exactly, Like I know, I've
said it a few times, you said it before. She
she is China and to the Vanity Project's d X,
and I I don't want to see her leave. If
she gets into something with Keanu. I don't know how
that's necessarily gonna work. I'm interested to see it, but
as long as it doesn't hurt the group and and
the pairing of Vanity Project and Lockwood, then yeah, I'm
okay with it. But that's gonna be that's gonna be
interesting to see how it plays out. Any idea.
Speaker 3: No, No, that was just a very interesting comment. It
just that was I don't know what she meant by that,
but I'm like, I wonder what she needs by that.
So I'm kind of looking looking forward to see if
they follow through on this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we'll see, we shall see. All right, let's
keep on keeping on. I was gonna go to the
all right, before we go to that match, Actually, before
we go to the match, let's go to email. We
got an email from Brian Austen. Brian says, hello, Natean David,
what do you think about Mike Santana changing his name
to Cruiz Montana. Eh, and we already talked about a
little bit. Uh. The iw C was not happy about it.
W w E stripping another wrestler of their names.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Santana explained the name name honors his father. Oh, okay,
I didn't realize.
Speaker 3: That would have been nice to know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I they must have done something done on
social media or something like that, because I don't remember.
I don't remember seeing anything hearing anything about the name
on on TV tonight. He says, I don't have a
problem with the name changes. On the business side, WWE
wants to market their wrestlers with unique monikers, and the
wrestler has their input on the name. Blake Monroe's first
name is the same as her niece. Some wres some
wrestlers might want to start fresh with an uh, start
with a fresh I D and David as the WWE
Evolved contributor, what are your thoughts on the new Evolved Champion,
Harlem Lewis.
Speaker 3: Mmmm. When we go to the Harlem Lewis question, I
as much as I hated to see Aaron Warrick lose
the Evolved Championship because I thought he really grew in
to a very confident champion. I loved the attitude that
he had. But let me tell you something, he and
Harlem Lewis prior to their title match cut one of
the best face to face promos that I've seen in
a long time. It was honest. It made you feel
for both of them. It made you believe in both
of them, and especially in Lewis. He's got a great backstory,
he's got a great look, He's got it in the ring.
As I was saying, as much as I hate to
see Aaron work lose the title, I was glad to
see Harlem Lewis win it because I think he again,
he is someone I've seen since the first day of
the Evolved reboot, and I've seen him progress and we've
learned about who he is and what he's all about.
And I think that if he keeps working once again,
it won't be long before he will wind up in NXT.
He is very good. I was happy to see that
for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah sucks. They because I, as everybody probably knows, I've
had a lot going on in the past few weeks.
I haven't like, I haven't even really had a chance
to catch up with like real news in real life,
let alone wrestling news. So I didn't even realize that
Aaron Record lost the title yet or lost title already. Uh,
that sucks. That sucks. Aaron is a he's a local boy,
so sucks to see.
Speaker 3: But but he will bounce back. He surires me to
see him get moved up soon. Because you know, again,
from the first time I saw him, I didn't quite
I'm like, okay, it's this a pseudo modern Adrien Street here,
what's going on? And then I saw who he? Then
he you know, they had some fantastic vignettes on him
where he you know, took us through his life and
what led him to where he was. It's like, Okay,
you know this guy, he's moving up for sure. But yeah,
Rourke will be moving up soon, I'm sure. But yeah,
Harlem Lewis, he's very much just stand out evolved Right.
Speaker 2: Now, you want to talk ADHD. Now I'm singing the
Jefferson's name, he said, Moving on, It's going on in
my head anyway. We got one more Kevin Cattani salutations, gents.
I hope this email finds you well. Tonight was rocking,
and after all this time, Nate and I finally got
our dream match of Izzy versus Lizzie. It's like, I
think it's time for tag team Team Purple Rain.
Speaker 3: I got go with that.
Speaker 2: I'm happy. I'm also happy that they're continuing to give
OTM work. I know that they've also been working in
Triple A two, but I think they still have a
lot to give. Where do you guys stand on OTM? Lastly,
I seem to have missed the mark on Mike Santana
last week because it wasn't a TNA share. It was
a full blown intro. I love the story on Cruise's
new name, and I hope you shoot gets Shoots right
to the moon. How does everybody know the name? The
story on the name.
Speaker 3: I thought I heard somebody on TV mentioned it tonight,
but I didn't know what they were talking about.
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, I I totally didn't like I didn't
hear that at all, because like that was that was
one of my big gripes about it. It's like, give
us a reason for the name change. But uh, okay, cool. Well,
I mean, if it's a tribute to his dad, then hey,
I'm all for it. Where do we stand on OTM?
I love OTM. I love what they're doing right now.
I like, you know, it's been a stop and start
thing with OTM this whole time since I mean they
say this whole time since they've debuted. You know, there
was some injuries and stuff in there, but I feel
like every time they get momentum, something gets undercut from them.
Now they're actually getting some TV time, They're getting some storylines,
you know, and and I think they're you gonna I'm
wondering if it is the end for OTM. Where you know,
he Bronco has joined the faction and I can't remember
what it's called in Triple A. Has something to do
with dogs.
Speaker 3: I know that, pero.
Speaker 2: I think if my elementary school Spanish serves me well,
But like it we saw so, you know, we've kind
of seen some dissension in the ranks between OTM over
the past couple of weeks because of Bronco going down
to Triple A and the reason I brought all that. Actually, no,
I was going to bring it up and then I
went to emails instead. I was going to bring up
this backstage segment with OTM where Garza and Berto walked in.
You know, they kind of fist bumped with Nima, but
they they weren't. We saw some glances, not some friendly glances,
but some glances between Lucian Price and Berto and Garza.
Berto and Garza they made during their match, which I guess.
I guess I'm getting confused because I keep going to
throw to too many things. So before I go and well,
before we talk about the match, let me throw to
you on the email.
Speaker 3: First, I forgot what it was.
Speaker 2: Now I kept talking, so I don't I don't blame you,
I I.
Speaker 3: So, No, I talked about I talked about the you know,
Harlem Lewis thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that was the last email.
Speaker 3: This one.
Speaker 2: This one was what do we do? Where do we
stand on ot M? Yeah? The only question I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what turn you want to know? What
got me interested in o TM? The Emily A Guard
segment from several weeks ago. That to me was what
got them over. That's what got them over with me.
That's what got Keanu Carver over with me. I love
those segments he has been doing. Hopefully they do more
than But since then, I've cared about otim. I've just
been able to distinguish one from the other suddenly their
unique personalities and which is what they needed. Yeah, they're
teasing a lot of dissension there. Looked like Berto and Garza,
as he said, they you know, they were glad handing
with Nima. Then they kind of, you know, kind of
gave him, you know, a little bit of a side
eye there, kind of you know, very suspicious, very wary
glance there. So and I have to admit that I
don't know the situation in Triple A right now, if
not between NX and Evolve and Ron smacknow has been
hard to catch anything else. But I'm not sure what
the situation is down there with Triple A right now.
But apparently uh, you know, Price and uh Nimur, you know,
one of them is working down there and they're kind of,
you know, splitting their time, and you know that's obviously
being tused. It is the source of tension. I don't
want to see them broken up. I like O team together.
I don't think they have to break up every single
team that comes along and succeeds. Okay, well you know
that's been done, you know, to everyone for the last
twenty thirty years, So yeah, you can stop anytime now
with that. I like him, I'd like to see them.
I think it could be a fantastic team on the
main roster.
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Speaker 2: No, I agree, I definitely agree. Like I like the
two of them together. Somebody in the pile drive rep
of the chats as Bronco definitely shows more personality. I
agree with that. You know, I think he probably is
more of the standout. Nothing against Price, like, I think
Price is still good. But I think maybe they want
to try and break them up and have maybe a
Bronco go like a single star or something like that.
I don't necessarily know if I see him as a
single star right now, but that then again, I haven't
really thought much about it before tonight. I guess I
just see him as you know, see him with OTM,
Like that's just where my mind goes. But maybe they
want to try and do something like that, break him off,
you know, with with Berto.
Speaker 3: And uh comes down to the sum not being equal
to the parts when it comes to oh TM. Really,
I think they're very good as the team.
Speaker 2: I don't know how one would do one on their own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't don't see either one of them doing.
I mean, you know, I would favor Nima, but but
really not much yeah, no for sure.
Speaker 2: Speaking of OTM, Birthrate defeated OTM in about nine minutes
and three seconds. And our third match of the night,
this was uh Stax and Finley's kid the hell's his
name Connors? Riah Connors. That's it. Can picture picture him
in the stupid mustache, clear as they could not think
of the name. But uh so Stacks and Honors versus OTM,
Bronco and Nima got the I think got the lion's
share of the match, especially towards the beginning, like I
like I started to say in the towards the end
of the match, Garza and Berto made their way to ringside.
Uh Nima abandoned his his position at ringside to go
and confront them, leaving Price vulnerable, and Price wound up
getting getting hit by I think it was Stacks. I'm
gonna say it was Stacks in the ring allowed him
to score the okay, and uh, you know, afterwards, you
could see the Price was kind of clearly upset, like
Nima was helping him up off the ground. He was
kind of he had this bit of like dazed look
on his face. So obviously selling the finish, but he
kind of like looked up at him like, dude really
really does look at least on his face. Didn't say it,
but that was what his expressions said it all. So,
you know, I think it was a solid match. You know,
I I really like what Birthright's doing right now too,
you know, the solid mid card faction. I think there's
definitely a place for solid mid card factions in wrestling.
So definitely cool with that. I guess I need to
catch up with Triple A because I haven't since God.
I think that whatever their last p l E was
because I think the last Triple A show that I watched,
So I kind of do need to catch up with
with all of that. Ryan is giving me permission to
say Humberto, and I think I probably should because Berto,
I don't know, almost reminds me of Berto from Mario
and Berto is not pink wearing a bow anyway, Shiloh,
did I throw to you on the match?
Speaker 3: No, but there's not really that mess to say, you know,
it was it was good. Uh, Connors and Stacks are
both you know, they're great. They make a great team. Uh,
birth Right, it's a good mid card faction. Uh, wasn't
a whole lot to this much other than the Anglothean
with with Berto and Uh and uh guards are coming
out there and kind of just standing around while Price
looked like he was not very happy about how the
match ended.
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, are were? We only had four matches tonight.
Our fourth match of the night was Shiloh Hill versus
Tristan Angels. Shiloh got the win in about ten minutes
and twenty seconds with a thunderbreaker off the top rope,
a super thunder breaker from super thunder Justice. I still
can't believe his name is thunder Justice and that's not
his ring name, but whatever, Shiloh Hill, Chiloh Hill is
still good. But how can your real name be thunder
Justice and you don't use it anyway? So yeah, Tristan
Angels started kind of targeting Sharlow Hill's neck beginning and
head throughout the course of the match. You work the
body part, all for that? Definitely all for that. I'd
love to actually see that a little bit more in
at least WWE anyway working a body part. We ended
up getting the Hill. Yeah, Sharlow Hill ended up hitting
is like standing in four to fifty four fifty hit
a world's strongest slam on the announced desk. There's a
lot of kind of just a lot going on in
the match. Angels tried to steal the victory by putting
his feet on the ropes, but Hill was able to
escape and then hit a pop up punch into the
super Thunderbreaker for the win.
Speaker 3: He'll he.
Speaker 2: I think this was a good to visit, like a
good solid wind for Shiloh Hill after losing his tooth,
even though he headed back tonight. I guess he must
have more than one denture especially.
Speaker 3: Didn't.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right, yeah, I think that that makes sense.
That makes sense. That's yeah, right, that's right. I kind
of forgot about that from last week. That, uh, I think,
I think any other like time I remember, but oh
my brain is mush lately. This is my first week
back to work, and I went back to work to
seven hundred and fifty seven emails and I just finished
getting through them today, like brands still spinning from that.
So anyway, you know, I think it's a good match.
I like the I like the pairing of Tristan Angels
and Shiloh Hill. You know, they they play off each
other very well. They're completely polar opposite characters. This feels
like it might be the end of the feud between them,
at least for now. It's always something they could go
back to, but this, I don't know, It feels like
it could end of the feud. Where you know, the
tooth was, the whole tooth thing is all taken care
of at this point. So let me throw to you
on the match, and do you think this is the
end of the feud.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it was a good, solid match.
It was almost a throwback of sorts in that they
worked a very basic style. Course, you know, Hill got
into that fancy splash of his, but they work very
well together. Angels. I mean, we've all seen the British
heel thing done, you know, over and over and over
and over again. But man, just Angels put a great
twist on it. He is he's just he's got that
down pat He's great in the ring. He looks good.
He's got a great look Shiloh Hill. He's got one
of the greatest characters of recent memory. That just seems organic.
It's just you can somehow believe that that that's really him.
So yeah, I'm really good. I'm hoping. I wouldn't mind
seeing them wrestle each other more. But if it seemed
a few and they go their separate ways, then there
are other things for them to move on to, for sure.
But yeah, it was good seeing us Shallow get a
definitive victory like that tonight.
Speaker 2: That definitely is who Shiloh Hill is. Obviously. I think
he's turned up to eleven as as good wrestling gimmicks are.
But you know, my my buddy Jobn like found first
heard of Shiloh Hill years ago following some of like
the creepy pasta horror story ship that he posts on
like Reddit and social media and stuff. I think it
was actually their sister that had found them originally and
then showed Jobun about it. But like and then yeah,
all of a sudden, like there he is on TV.
Like he's definitely an out there character in real life.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like following him on social media is great. Like
I I don't really know much about like the creepy
pasta horror stuff that that he does, but like a
lot of the stuff on social media that he's done
with like Tatum Paxley and things like that has been
just unreal.
Speaker 3: It was so good. So got take a look.
Speaker 2: Yes, not that I want to force anybody to go
to social media for anything because ugh. But yeah, all right,
So those are the end of the matches for the night.
We talked about that that we got next week Lola
Ice and Kendall Gray in an underground match. We had
a bit of a segment with It was a pre
tape segment Lola Ice and Kendall Gray. Actually sorry, it
was two different segments. First one was about Lola Ice,
about Lolla Ice talking about her trials and tribulations getting
to where she is, being a former champion and all
of that stuff, talking about being the I don't know
if she said Queen of the Underground. I don't know
something that sticks out in my head for some reason,
but I'm gonna call her the Queen of the Underground
match and uh, and that she doesn't she doesn't think
that Kendall quite understands where Lola has come from and
what she's endured to get to this spot. Later later
on in the night, Kendall, we saw a video package
on Kendall Gray training and preparing with her coach for
the match, and kind of in response to in responding
to Lola Ice.
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Speaker 2: We also saw Jada Parker and THEA hale me up
in the locker room and kind of, I guess become
best friends is the best way I can put it.
You know, THEA congratulated Jada on her win last week. Jada,
you know, basically said THEA is the only one that
seems trustworthy in the locker room, and she thanked her,
and you know, Thea's like, oh, thank you, And they
kind of ended the segment with a Hug. Definitely not
a pairing that I would expect, And it looks like
they're going to have a tag team match next week.
Not a pairing I would necessarily expect, but I'm definitely
interested in it. I think that after the chemistry that
we saw on screen between THEA and Jada tonight, I
really want to see what they can do with that pairing.
Then one more for one more segment atch as well.
Zaria and Ren Sinclair argue over the championship. We saw
Zaria walk up to Stone about her next North about
her next challenger, saying that she wanted a singles match,
considering she was supposed to have a singles match in
her last defense, and it got turned into a multi
person match, and Ren Sinclair walked in basically asking about
her own Speed Championship defense. So next week I thought
this was kind of you know what I was going
to say. I thought it was weird, but now I
think about it, it's not. Next week we see Wren
defend her Speed Championship against Zaria, and if Ren wins,
she'll be able to get a title shot for the
North American title against Zaria at a later date. What
I was going to say, was I thought it was
weird that they're not putting both titles on the line,
but I kind of forgot that. You know, the Speed
title has its own set of rules, so I guess
I can get behind that. We don't defend the North
American title under speed rules, I guess. So I guess
that kind of makes sense. So so yeah, let me
throw it to you. On the Csaria Reno Claire segment,
Jada Parker and THEA Hale and loll of Ice and
Kendall Gray.
Speaker 3: Uh, well, I'll go in that order. On the last one. Yeah,
I thought that was Yeah, it made it made sense
for you know, the Czaria and uh Ran too for
this to play out. And you know, if you remember,
Dasaria actually pulled rank on on ren with with her
North American belts, this belt kind of trumps the Speed
belt here, so hold tight and so yeah, I like that.
That's fine. Uh you know that that was fine. The
other uh segment with the with Parker and Hale, I
thought it completely fit THEA Hale's character, you know, being
you know, being that way, so odd pairing. But I think,
as you said, I think he could actually be a
fun one. So I'm looking forward to seeing where they
go on that one from here. The two video segments
on Little Advice and KNT Gray both were very very
well done, very good promotional packages, you know, highlighting their
climb to where they are at this point. I think
probably a lot of people have heard by now the
rum wings that Little Advice may be getting called up
to the Blue brand here very soon yep. So you know,
that kind of takes away a little bit of the
mystery of how this match is most likely going to
turn out next week, with Gray retaining and Advice moving
up to SmackDown. So but still very good, very good
go home segments highlighting both women's accomplishments and roads to
the top and how they got to where that right now.
Speaker 2: So I think that brings us to the end of
all of the talking points on this episode. But there's
one more that I'm going to bring up because it
was a rumor that I saw while I was basically
in between the end of NXT and the beginning of
this show, and I meant to bring it up earlier
and I forgot, but I eventually remembered. So I saw
rumblings that Aliyah mysterio has been signed to NXT and
I'm interested. I'm interested to see how that goes. We
haven't seen her on WWE TV since the whole like
Buddy Murphy thing, like when Buddy Murphy was Buddy Murphy
in WWE, so a long time ago at this point, probably.
Speaker 3: Four years ago or so, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, probably a little bit longer than that. I
don't know if that's actually like legit or not. It
was just something that I saw on Reddit. Somebody posted
something about one of her friends took a picture of
her holding a cake with a couple little standees of
her in wrestling gear on on the cake and said
something about like Aliah, your WWE's problem now or something
like that. So I don't know if that'll you know,
there'll be more about that in the near future, but
it was something I read thought it might be a
little interesting. I know I've heard rumblings of her, you know,
wanting to train. Actually, I know that she was talking
about wanting to train. Raymistereo was recently on Chris Van
Feliet's podcast, I think within the last month or so,
and he did mention in that interview that Aliyah had
interest in training, but he didn't really elaborate on it.
He talked really more about you know, Dom and and
when he was talking with his kids anyway, talked a
little bit more about Dom still in character for the
most part. But but yeah, that that should be interesting.
I don't think we haven't. Yeah, we didn't see her
really in any physicality or anything that I can remember
from that point in time. So I'm sure it'll be
a little while before we see her on TV. Even
if she does get signed, I'm sure they're gonna want to, like,
you know, shine her up a little bit.
Speaker 3: But any any thoughts on that, Well, they're definitely not
going to be changing her name for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to keep that on there. Said No,
I had not heard that. It's a surprise because, as
you said, I had not heard of any interest from
her in getting into wrestling, So I did not know
that that was even you know, on the table. But
another mysterio in wrestling. Can it possibly be a bad thing?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when when when Don first started,
we were like, you know, he he showed some promise,
but I I mean, I know, I wasn't super impressed,
and now look at where he is you know. So, yeah, definitely,
h definitely gonna see where that goes. I'm gonna bring
up this is the post that I saw, so your
w w's problem now, Leah see you on TV and
she's holding the h cake with a couple of standees
of her in Wrestling Gears. So we'll see, we'll see
where that goes. But I'm not sure, and honestly not
sure if she'll end up in w W or in
n XT or maybe spend some time in the PC
and then wind up on the main roster with her
brother and her dad. I don't know. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah,
that's a good point, or even you know, HIT evolved
first or something like that. You know, I I would
be more in the camp of probably having her go
through the NXT system. I think, you know, uh, Dominic
probably would have benefited from that a little bit before
going up to the main roster, but definitely, but if
he did, maybe he wouldn't have been in the right
place at the right time for the whole Judgment day thing,
and and you know, we might have gotten a completely
different run out of him. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, teaming with his dad that we would be
looking at. You know a former intercurrent champion, current Tripling
Mega Champion. Yeah, no way. So yeah, it's been says.
Speaker 2: Ray says, wrestling has more than one royal family standard,
Deviation says good good signing, pile driver Peat, She's a mysterio.
She's probably been wrestling since she was like six. Ryan
says that Ray says Eliah is a natural, which I
do remember him saying actually in that Chris van Fleet interview.
Now that Ryan brings it up, good Fella says first
ever Evolved a Maine roster could be a cool Mysterio award.
So so yeah, Aliyah potentially making her way to NXT
or at least the WWE in the near future. So
with that, I think we're gonna end the show there.
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