Speaker 1: My things. I don't develop.
Speaker 2: Hey everybody, ah man, what a great afternoon here getting
ready to talk about nighted Champions from Rida right bad? Sorry,
and such amazing matches and what an amazing outcome tonight
is what I would like to say this.
Speaker 1: I think this was the textbook definition of like a
generously a fifty to fifty show, cause half of it
was okay, and then the other half of it was
a real reminder that there is a lot of people
that they are featuring on these shows that just are
not ready.
Speaker 2: At all. You know, I agree with you, But at
the same time, wouldn't you rather people stink up Night
of Champions than Summer Slam?
Speaker 1: I'd suppose. But I'm really hoping at this point that
they're just seeing this for what it is, which is
it's a one match show. The people are going to
go home happy because of the main event, and most
of everything else is just kind of fill in the
blank shit. You know, I don't I don't know what
to call this anymore other than phone phoned in I
think would be fair.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I know I know what I'd call it,
wrestling soup. I'm Anthony, It's the Night of Champions post show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the afternoon of Champions, that's where we are at this. Well,
it's so, yeah, it's nighttime where this all happened. So
I guess that's fair. We'll call it that.
Speaker 2: So it's sunny Arabia. But we're all in the dark
over here.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, right, I mean I'm very much so in
the dark as to why half the fucking matches on
the show featured wrestlers who are, let to be honest,
not ready to be on TV. All well, all right,
let me let me change that. Not not on television
because the bar is very low for television, uh, not
meant to be featured on line events like this. Sorry,
you know, which is a shame. It's a fucking shame
because I don't hate all of you so like I
think they all suck, like deeply suck. You just look
at it and go, this is tough, some of these dudes.
It's tough.
Speaker 2: But it was good to me, you know why, because
we didn't have a fifteen minute long Roman Reigns entrance. Yeah,
just say, I will take the small winds. I will,
I'll take the small winds. And not having a night
of Roman Reigns shit being shoved down our throats about
how great and awesome the mighty bloodline is. It's fine.
I'm totally fine with that. I know, we got a
little set in there. You have to sprinkle some seth
in there, but but I mean, yeah, I'm okay with that.
A little less Roman, I'm fine with that. Saudi Arabia,
the crowd is always pretty active there. I gotta give
them their props for being for being ready to uh
well for actually being an active almost ground zero type
fucking place at the moment. It's it's it's amazing how
excited and how much energy these people have.
Speaker 1: Right right well, you know, I think it's one of
those just you get used to it, right, if you're
used to shit, kind of be intense. You know, they
just say to themselves another day at the office, I
suppose might as well go watch Jay or so, you know,
I guess that's what you do when you just said
around and you go, hey, man, tough times, right, Things
could go sour in this region at any moment, no
matter what people will tell you, which I'm sure there'll
be comments and people like, oh, Saudi Arabia, everything's fine,
everything's good. You're not so much. But it's like the
long discussion that me and you had yesterday. They just gotta,
I guess, smile and just grin and bear it and
go we're here for a fuck. We might not be
here for a long time, but we're here for a
good time. Yeah and uh yeah, here comes Well. I
will say this for all the shit that we can
give Jay Husso, and it's real easy to do. He's
very over in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: That did a good job tonight too. He wasn't like
There's some times he goes out there like a drunken monkey,
and then there's times like tonight. I think he did
a good job with Oba. Oba looked fucking amazing out there,
and you have to give Jay's credit. He made Oba
look good. I thought that open between Oba and Jay
Usso couldn't have gone off any better. I was actually
worried when the match started because the there were images
and I don't know if they're true or if people
photoshopped him or whatever, but there was images like these
goddamn security camshots of brock lesnar in Saudi Arabia. I
don't even know if that's true. Maybe he was there,
but it's like all this grainy footage. Here's a brocksiding
in Riod, Here's there's a brock Lesnar getting off the plane,
and it's like, ah shit, but I was, I was
kind of happy that the match went off fair for
what it was, for what it was.
Speaker 1: That's very that's very generous. I mean, Jay Usso is
really truly a bad fucking worker. I mean, I'm I'm
sorry like the people that are there's people that have
no idea of anything that of my background or understanding
of any of the ship and they get salty and
think I'm just being a dick. But Jay us So
truly fucking sucks. He's very, very bad in the ring.
His offense looks terrible, his timing is fucking putrid. It's rough.
And if you'd have told me that both guys in
this match have been wrestling for the same amount of time,
I'd have believed you. But the difference is is jay
Uzo has been wrestling what four times as long as Obafemi,
and yeah, I guess the fact that nobody broke their
neck hurt the other one. Don't worry. That's for later
in the show where we have yet another green wrestler
that's being massively fucking pushed that can't help but hurt
himself every time he gets in the ring. But yeah,
Jay is just inexcusably fucking rotten in the ring and
still Saudi Arabia. I'll tell you that music hit and
they were fucking ready for both of these guys. Truly.
I mean that, that to me was at least the
most interesting thing about this match is that, Okay, for
what it's worth for as tired as people are of
jay Uso stateside and on the internet, which jay Usso
cut some awkward fucking promo about how people don't like
his YouTube videos yesterday, But other than that, I guess
in other parts of the world they're they're eating up
fucking jay Uso still and Oba. But do you think
that might have just been because it was the first
guy's mish. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's a mix, right, like people like the
people like to chance along. That's That's the big thing
We've been talking about this almost ad nauseum now, show
after show, week after week, that the the crowd has
a very much a seal slash parrot response to everything
that comes out there, and Jay Usso is a catchphrase,
even though it's just mostly his entrance people like to channelong.
It's being part of the moose Lodge.
Speaker 1: Against He's a tune. Yeah, he's a tune. He's a
I don't know, he's a I know.
Speaker 2: You see, jay us is being valueless at this point,
and maybe his best days are with his brother, because
I mean, I remember back in the day when we
would talk about the USO's being one of the best
tag teams on the entire show. I mean, this was
back when New Day were still around and everything else too,
But there was a point where they were exciting to watch.
They weren't blowing spots, they weren't hurting anybody. It's just
it was a lot more of a fun time and
jay Uso was a part of that. You can't ignore
it as far as his singles push goes. I mean,
I think a lot of people are probably a little
tired of it. They're not into main events jay Usso
at all. They're not into fucking bipolar jay Usso who's
really happy one minute and then crying in the back
to fucking Jackie.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: Like, It's just I'm all set with the character of it,
but inside the ring, I mean, yeah, he's soft, but
who the fuck wasn't soft out there? Seth Rollins was
throwing fucking pillows at Bron Breaker, and all.
Speaker 1: Is what happens when you work with, let's be real,
not particularly good green wrestlers, which isn't green.
Speaker 2: He's another one. If you're gonna put Jay Whoso on
that pedestal of being ship in the ring. Seth Rollins
was literally fucking not even connecting with brown Breaker half
the time. Those elbows were the softest fucking things I've seen.
I swear they were bad, and Bron responding with those
really soft knee, those knee curls, those knee fucking to
the guts on Seth, which it's like this ship wasn't
even connecting. This was like gender jeff hardy bad. I
I don't know why they continue to just oh, let's
just pretend it happened even though it looked like shit.
It's like this, this is weird even by their standards,
because I'm sure they were taught if it looks like shit,
do it again, do it again?
Speaker 1: Make doth different?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is this is where they're at. Like
there's so many people on this show where even who
are supposedly the vets on these shows, right, jay Usso
seth rawlins. You know, they can't even help these fucking
green wrestlers that they're in the ring with. And I
want to make sure that make this clear. Oba did
about as good as he could in this situation. I
still think that Jay got too much on him.
Speaker 2: I still believe you had to throw everything at him,
because there's no way that jay Uso stacks up against Oba. Like,
the only way they could have subverted our expectations was
if Jay was literally splashing Oba every two point five seconds.
It's the only way they could do it. How else
would you have believed, even for a minute second that
Oba Femi could possibly lose to Jay Huso unless it
involved you know, everybody else in the bloodline.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why everybody assumed, yeah, that there was going
to be Yeah, they assumed it was going to be
Brock and stuff because it wouldn't have made sense for
Jade have won this. And he did it thankfully, you know,
like they handled that well where they decided, Okay, Brock listener,
he's got a swap meat or something, or the kids
have an ice cream social, so he's not flying to
Saudi Arabia for a me easily three million dollars or something.
So they did the right thing in this moment and
just put over clean as a fucking.
Speaker 2: Sheet, which makes a wise Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I mean,
it's nice if he's gonna get this title since he's
clearly not going to get one at Summer Slab.
Speaker 1: Oh probably, I'm probably, well, this depends, right. I'm glad
the main event went the way it did for many reasons,
and I think one of the big ones is that, Okay,
now you have Sammy as sure he's getting a giant
don't yay Saudi Arabia, Sammy's over blah blah blah, but
he's getting like weird mixed reactions everywhere else he goes,
which is funny when you think about it, because you
have everybody else in the bloodline who are like suck
by Dick, fuck you, I hate you all, and they're
like Fergus in the bloodmore tishirts. Dude, It's like, what
the fuck? This is really strange because you have Sammy,
who he had. He's having his little tit for tat
with Cody, and you know he's still kind of I'm
keeping it. I'm keeping it loose, so I'm not being
fully of heel. If anything, I'm just trying to like
win the title, and that he did. Uh. But everybody
else that was associated with the Bloodline acts openly like
a fucking chud and people are like, no, that's cool.
You know why like that? I'm happy with.
Speaker 2: It because because those Chuds in the Bloodline carry a
type of swagger.
Speaker 1: With them the Chud line. Yes, yes, that's.
Speaker 2: That's that's uh that Sammy can't can't carry. Sammy doesn't
have that natural cool like. He's a charismatic guy, absolutely
a thousand, but he's not a cool guy. You don't
look at Sammy and go, man, I want to have
wacky hair like Sammy Zay one day. Man, I want
to have white, pasty skin and semi flabby muscles like
Sammy one day. Like the guys on the Bloodline, with
the exception of Jacob, who's still an intimidating menace, for
the most part, they have a natural swagger about them
that I think people give them the benefit of doubt,
whereas Sammy has to work twice as hard. I really
do believe Sammy works twice as hard for the people
that cheer for him. I really do.
Speaker 1: But so do you think that Sammy would benefit from
putting on a wife beater and a chain and developing
a really awkward black scent.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything you can do to fix
Sammy Samy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying we're good. Just taking from
jay Uzo. Maybe that's what Maybe that's his step, you know,
maybe maybe that's what you have him do. But no,
they put the right guy over in the situation. Now,
I guess Oba's gonna go to all right, They're gonna
have to pull the trigger and just make Sammy a
fuck face and an asshole and have him maybe you know,
he has an interaction with Cody, and instead of being
humble about it, he's like, yeah, of course I won't.
I should win. I should be beating all of you.
You're all fucking idiots. Like instead of him going, I'm
the hero of the day and I overcame the mountain.
If he's arrogant about it and then Oba beats him
in thirty seconds at SummerSlam, it is what the fuck
it is. But if it then becomes or instead it
becomes ober Verse Roman, God help us, God, fucking help
us with that match, because you know they want that
well you know t want.
Speaker 2: And that's what we've been smelling for a while. That's
going to be a big Summer Slam moment. Yeah yeah,
I mean technically Oba could go for the easy layup
win and go right after Sanny for that belt, which
I think for a lot of people that would seem
like the smart idea. But Oba's the ruler, so I
think he's got to go after Rowan Rains, who's the
tribal chief. That's just uller verse chief. Yes, right, I
mean that's exactly what it is. Because if Oba's really
this big, domineering baby face, why is he going to
go after the guy he knows he can beat instead
of going after the guy that nobody can beat?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, well then then you end up in
this weird spot because now we're at SummerSlam, We're already
I've already felt like in many respects that this Oba
Femi push has just been They just hit like the
ten X button on this. They fast forwarded this more
than I used to the old aw pay per views.
But that's now okay, Well, I who goes to Roman?
All right? Is he gonna beat Roman because he kind.
Speaker 2: Of and that's gonna be the storyline is there's going
to be some Brock fuckery and it was actually Joe
Punches threw it up. Let's not forget that Summer Slam
is two nights.
Speaker 1: Yep, it is, So they're gonna they're gonna try to
drag this out even longer with there are no ideas
that they have they have to build.
Speaker 2: I think if Oba had a match against Roman and
Oba had a match against Brock at SummerSlam, Mmmm.
Speaker 1: That's how the story you tell is that you have
Oba work both nights and that he's like he was
tired and that's why Roman got the or they just
have Brock interfere with it and then you do the
build to the three way match. What it back back
in Saudi Arabia is that what you do, Well, Brock's not.
Speaker 2: Gonna be around for a long time, right, so Brock's
probably on a short contract. Yeah, you probably have Brock
versus Oba a night one, right maybe.
Speaker 1: But this is also the problem is them having that
match that they had at the last pay per view,
the Oba in Brock, and now if a magic Brock
doesn't appear in the next two weeks. Then what was
the point of having him fucking lose to Brock Basically nothing.
It was like a triple h almost self booking move,
even though Brock probably didn't give a shit, where it's like, well,
I gotta get my wind back. Why you did not
need to get your wind back? Unless the plan is,
like I said, Brock interfears at SummerSlam, comes out Fox
Obo over in the match against Roman, let's say, and
then they somehow keep them apart magically by I don't know,
if Roman not showing up, Brock not showing up, and
then you just kind of ride that out until Mania,
which they could. I think they could pull that off.
I mean, you're dealing with people that are fully capable
of taking an idea and forgetting about it. They could
do that for five months and not even blink, So
that's a real possibility.
Speaker 2: I kind of look at it in a different way,
I mean, storyline wise, and once again I might be
getting too nuanced for this, but I think you have
Brock and Oba at the first meeting or the third meeting,
however you want to look at it, and you have
Brock lose. Oba beats Brock, but Oba beats Brock where
Oba loses something in the process. Maybe he gets you know,
ring injured, jur twink right, something happens to him where
it compromises his match for the title, and so by
the time he goes in up against the Roman, maybe
Roman still has the bloodline come in there. But at
this point Oba doesn't look bad for losing because he's
in that Cody situation, you know, where he's all fucked
up and here he is having this big match while
he can barely move his arms, you know, like something
along those lines.
Speaker 1: Well, they'd have to have somebody cooking in the background
as like a return or a big surprise or something
to where they could do that match on night one,
take Obo with an injury, and then have whomever show up.
I mean, don't I don't know why couldn't get hurt
in the Brock match. No, that's what I'm saying, Like
he'd fight Brock on night one and then have it
be like, you know, Brock or Oba saying I gotta
you know the next night, Well, you're not cleared, Oba,
you can't face Roman reigns. And as the Roman Reigns
doesn't have an opponent, well, somebody's got to come back.
They do have whomever appear to face off against them.
I don't know who the fuck that would be. But
this is also we're.
Speaker 2: Just saying get rid of the Roman Oba match altogether.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I wouldn't I wouldn't even want to expose
Oba on that way.
Speaker 2: I think that's what you gotta do. You gotta have
them bow down and kiss Roman's ring. Dude, that's what
they're gonna do. See. I know, Oh, you're looking at
it in the best case scenario to protect Oba. I'm
looking at it in the best case scenario for WWE
to pad their wallets and by having Oba versus Roman reigns,
they're going to sell SummerSlam with that. And I agree
with you that it does have to be somebody in
Romans camp that fucking that walks Oba out, And I
think it's gonna be Jacob, and then you're gonna get
Oba versus Jacob for a little while, you know, until
he comes back to Roman. And I don't know if
Brock shows up again in Oba's future, but I think
Oba's future right now is gonna be dealing with the bloodline,
because right now, the bloodline is very dominating in ww E.
It's the point of being nauseating again. And they need
somebody that can rally against Roman reigns. They need the
fans to have somebody that rallies against the bloodline, and
I think Oba's that guy, because it ain't fucking Cody.
And I don't know where the fuck sum Punk is.
Did you see all that shit coming out? Holy fuck?
Everybody under the sun has a rumor on why Sam
Punk isn't around. Some people say it's because he's he's
having problems with his contract. Some people say it's because
he's pissed off about the creative direction of WWE. Some
people say that he was pissed off about the creative
direction of aj Lee. Some people say that it's a
fucking visa issue, Like I don't even know.
Speaker 1: What You might just not want to go back to
Saudi Arabia again, which I get, Like he did he
he did his one shot over there, he did his
high five in a hog and his apology. But that
doesn't mean he's got to keep going, you know what
I mean? Like I understand that completely, I know, but.
Speaker 2: It's just everybody has an answer with nobody's giving us
facts It's just another one of those cases as all know.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, he could also be he could also be
of all the options you presented, really looking at this
and going well, I don't have a place in this
mix if you're going to feature the bloodline and they're
going to be despicable fucking heels who get cheered in
every building. So what am I gonna do do I
come out and say, you guys suck and then they
go yay, I guess and then he goes, well, I
guess I'm the heel now, and they go, no, we
don't want you to be a heel. You gotta be
a babyface. And he's like, how about I just fucking
go home?
Speaker 2: Well that was the only thing too, was his promos
even with Roman was I'm not going to leave. I'm
gonna stay right here, and as soon as the match
is over, he fucking bolted. So it's just you know,
like I mean, there's just a lot of layers to it,
and I don't know when or if he's coming back.
So this this whole thing that the fans need somebody
to stand up against Roman, who else, Joe who else?
Speaker 1: Nobody's well, this is the problem. Is the fans. I
hate to sound Meltzer esque, but the fans fucking suck.
So who's it gonna be? Well, can it be Oba? Sure?
But Oba has to win. It can't be Oba's gonna
be the guy that finally stands up against Roman reigns,
and then we do screwy fuck finishes where he goes
through the barricade and then got you counted out and
Roman reigns babyface heel Roman rains, takes off the top
turn buckle and then sticks his thumb in his ass
or seventeen family members come out and suck them off
or some I don't know, but like, it can't be that.
You can't do that. This is what happens when you
make people on your show that are completely fucking aimless
for years, and also put that and compound that with
the storylines make no sense, and you've massively mega over
pushed the guy to where who, like you said, who's
coming out to compete.
Speaker 2: On the right. Oki says, it'll probably be Seth Rollins
And you gotta realize with the prophets with the profits
behind him, Yeah, Rollins has a new vision.
Speaker 1: No, it's uh yeah, no that well, like I said,
they they have a cursed monkey's paw with Roman Reigns.
He's gonna sell you the X amount of shirts, He's
gonna get X amount of people to buy X amount
of tickets and show up to this bullshit. And you know, wow,
he used to fucking go and just that and the
other thing. But how do you end this? You have
had five opportunities, at least in the last half dozen
years to go off to to just okay, eventually we
got to steer a little bit away from Roman Reigns
and start attempting to build up anybody the fuck else,
and they've just said nope, and they've kept on going straight.
And the crowd at this point, like I said, they
cheer for him because at some point it's just the
war of attrition. Why bother booing, He's going to just win.
So he is inevitable getting back into this match. So
then pretty much your best case scenario is now that
we have Sammy Zayon as the champion, you want Oba
Femi to direct himself off of raw and go to
smack Down and go after Sammy zan. I could see
them doing that. And the only reason why I say
I could see them doing that is because.
Speaker 2: One way or the other. I mean, there's only two opportunities.
He's not going to go after the women's title. Well,
well you live.
Speaker 1: Oh we'll get to that match. But no, like, yeah, Oba,
it might be better, Like maybe that's it is. You
make Sammy a full fucking you know, just whiny bitch
that just says like I deserve it and blah blah blah,
and then Oba goes. You know, I you know, there
is time for me to become a tribal chief as
well as a ruler, but for now I have to
take you know, cut off the head of a snake
or something. I don't fucking know, but that might be
the direction that they do to save all of that
the Roman Oba. Now the crowd's going to choose because
they whatever. They could save that for WrestleMania, They could
save that for building to bre odd Fest next year.
So I'm not sure, but like I said, if brock
Lesner wasn't coming to fuck this matchup, it was the
right decision.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we've got the women's match EO Sky versus
Live Morgan for Queen of the Ring.
Speaker 1: Well you knew when Dan Housen cursed there, that was
we knew that, we knew that she wasn't gonna win
right there. No, nobody is going to notably beat that
Dan Cousen curse on television probably for what a year.
They're gonna run that. That'll be his version of the streak.
Whoever he puts a curse on, the curse actually sticks.
So the second that happened, I go, oh, so he
is going over all right, right, yeah, which I guess
once again was the right move. But now we're going
to go to Live and EO again. And the match
was fine, I mean it was it was the pretty good,
but I'm not sure I'm chomping it the bit to
see another one. I don't know, are you?
Speaker 2: It's fine, It doesn't bother me. Let's wait till okay, well,
let's let's let's wait till everybody shows back up. For
what it is, EO and Live is about the best
they got. Can Can they dust off Oscar? Can somebody
put her on the phone again? Because too?
Speaker 1: Well, in the other women's match, they had what at
least two at least two other women that I'm sitting
there and I'm going, well, I.
Speaker 2: Hear both of them are actually men.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Oh yes, I heard. I saw
that on the internet. So that's the rumor. The rumor
is that's what their deal is. But no, this was,
like I said, this was phone. The finish was phoned
in the second they did that sketch or sketch or
skit thirty seconds before you know, the match started.
Speaker 2: It went a long time too. I'm looking at the timeline,
it's fifteen minutes. I was like, god, damn.
Speaker 1: Really well, if they trust THEO to do uh, they
trust the O to do the damn thing. And also
because it was on whatever ESPN two or whatever other
app they're multi streaming this thing, they had to give
the match some time because you're not going to trust
fucking drunk Jay USO and fucking oh but Ago. They're
not gonna have them go for twenty minutes. So they
gave the girls a little bit little bit of leeway.
And yes, it was long, and it kind of felt
that way. But like I said, my biggest worry about it,
or my biggest like kind of shrugging moment, is it
was okay, but not enough for me to say, oh fuck,
let's do it again in a month like a man.
Kind of all set with that, you know, I'm.
Speaker 2: Then we have the fucking highlight of the night, Shoe
Seth Rollins versus Brown Breaker Steel k Steel cage match
nineteen minutes. The longest match of the night started with
both men sitting, which I was like, oh, this is
this is unique. I've never seen a match start sitting
like this before. I thought that they were gonna play musical
chairs or I don't know. This match had a bad
vibe from the beginning. I didn't get any I just
I just didn't enjoy this match. There was, like I said,
everybody was really soft. Seth Rollins was throwing pillows bron
Breaker and I know bron Breaker had the half a
face of blood and stuff. And supposedly he's injured again.
I don't know. Is that no way has that come
through already or is that just more hearsay from Twitter
or whatever? Is he act actually fucking injured again?
Speaker 1: I think this is just going to be like an
ongoing running joke every match he has now is everyone's just.
Speaker 2: It's not even it's not even a joke. Is this
motherfucker hurt again? How funny is that would that be?
If if bron was like seth, you faked an injury.
Speaker 1: Well, guess what. I get injured every time I wrestle.
You you lie to these people. I tell him the truth.
I get hurt every time I do anything. It's like,
holy fuck, this guy's made out of rice paper. Huh,
good God. But you know I said this a year
ago when this guy showed up basically at this point
a year ago or so, and how many injuries has
he had since then? He has no dexterity to him.
He's not limber. And like people would say, are you
say it he's athletic or you're saying he's not in shape.
I'm not a fucking idiot. Clearly the guy is athletic
and in shape. He's just not built for this type
of athleticism. It's just what it is, you know what
I mean? Like the same exact way that you know,
the World Cup's happening right now. You see these dudes
from you know, the middle of the fucking wherever in
the world, and they got legs like tree trunks, and
they could run for fifteen fucking miles and a you know,
in a jump, but you wouldn't go put them in
the middle of a fucking NHL game, right, They're not
going to be a tight end in the NFL. You know,
like some people can be. You're athletic, but you're not
built for this type of athleticism at this type of
rigorous activity in this level. And maybe Bron's just not
Maybe he is not cut out to just be a
fucking professional wrestler who does this shit all the time.
This makes me think of of all people, another second
generation wrestler. Remember Steamboat's kid, where people like steamboats kids
really good, And it's just like he was fucking hurt
pretty frequently, and I think he had some sort of
serious injury before he even had the opportunity to really
get out there and do it. And people were like,
it's that sucks, it's sad, but that's it. Some people
they get into wrestling, they do the deal, they look
like they have a lot of potential, but every you know,
six matches, they're out for six months and you just
can't do that. That's not a fucking thing.
Speaker 2: I'm cross referencing different sites. I don't see anything about
it in an actual injury. I mean they're talking about
the stomp and stuff like that, but there's no actual
nothing being reported that he's falling apart again.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, let's wait, yeah, wait, wait yeah.
But Mitchell also at the same time, even if he's
not injured, and you know, it was it was what
was the match itself is still just Oh.
Speaker 2: It's very generic. It was all let's go get the kendowstick.
Speaker 1: Yeay.
Speaker 2: Oh look there's a charity. He fucking puts set through
the side of the chair. Oh, never saw that a
thousand times before. Oh, it's just it's a lot of tropes.
It relies on a lot of tropes that the cage
itself is rarely used. I know that they had the
spot where he thought, oh, he's gonna he's gonna climb
over the cage, and I mean, I guess it's just
I don't know, there's something missing from the romanticism of
what the steel cage matches used to be like to
what they are now. And I saw people absolutely in
love with the fact that Bron had half a red face,
you know, like they're like, oh, look at the crimson
mask that Bron has. That's what a wrestler is supposed to.
Speaker 1: But it's also an accident in that situation, and he's
supposed to be the heel in this match. So even
when we get to the point of and like, I
don't know, I know, the whole thing is like you know,
usually the baby face bleeds first in these type of situations,
or you know, is the babyface gets the blood on
the heel and the baby face I don't know a lot,
there's a lot of different the rules of people have
to that, but it doesn't change the fact that Steth
won this match. And I think when we were doing
predictions for this, I'd said to you, if if this
is it, if Seth wins this match, then that whole
thing is over, or at least it should be. Is
it going to be now They're gonna just do this
shit all over again? Which that's the problem is, it's like, okay, well,
where the fuck.
Speaker 2: Do you go from here? After a steel cage match,
What is the next logical step at SummerSlam? What could
they possibly do?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 2: Logan and fucking uh Pokemon Boy and Seth in the
same ring, and with uh well and Bron versus Seth,
And when.
Speaker 1: Everybody comes back from injury, we do war games again,
and then two of them get injured again. Oh my god,
that's that what we do. Like I know, it's like
you have these wrestlers who are you know, they they're
picked a batchel of them to come up, you know,
debut and the main roster, and they had their best
intentions and it looked like to a lot of people
they made some good picks and some good choices. And
as time's going on, I beg to differ. But you know,
Seths went over in this and hopefully that means that
everybody moves away from this. But like I said, would
you be surprised if in what forty eight hours time
he's back on the wrong Ivy Brian Breaker and then
bron comes out and just jumps him again. It's like,
when will this end? It's just it's gotta keep going
and going and going. But what else have I know
what else they have? Yeah, the street profits took the
belts off the other two guys or bron in fucking
Austin theory. So that's that's done. Wash your hands to that.
Speaker 2: Maybe we can go back to l A Night losing
this south huh.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's good. Yeah, we gotta make well. No. L A.
Knight's thing now is that he's gonna form some sort
of union with Solo, which I'm sure won't also blow
up in his fucking face, because that's just it's imperative
once again to humiliate l A. Knight as much as
humanly possible and make him look as stupid as can be.
But yeah, we'll see what happens. But Seth Rollins beat
Steak Cop and Uh, so far it's a fifty to
fifty shot on if he's injured after this or not.
We'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 2: We go to the worst match of the night, Trick
Williams with uh, technically with Little Yachty versus Ricky Sauce.
Speaker 1: Boy Man, I'm I'm some bud that Trick Williams. When
he started getting some shine on him in n XT,
I was like, all right, I see it. I see
the potential here. I like him. I think he's a
good babyface. He has a lot of the intangibles as
far as being somebody that can go and you know,
do events. And he looks like a wrestler and he
can talk, and he's likable and he's charismatic. But the dude,
the dude can't throw a fucking punch. It looks bad.
It looked rotting like he He backed Ricky into the
fucking ropes at one point and started like he threw
like wine punch at him, and I just go, Jesus Christ,
this looks like little kids doing play wrestling out on
a fucking trampoline. Like I'm throwing punches and I'm a
foot and a half away from your face. Please, Trick,
I fucking love you, buddy. I'm rooting for you. Learn
how to punch or do something out because it looks bad.
Whatever it's gotta be, chops, thrusts, fucking grab the head
like Hulk Ogan and fucking punch your own hands, anything
other than what the fuck he's doing in the ring.
The offense, by the way, not even just the punches,
the clothes lines. Everything he did offensively in this match
looked rotten. Not oh, you know, little Lucy good like
Seth Like yeah, Lucy Goosey. You know he probably should
fucking tighten it up. I don't know why he's not,
but like straight up bad, bad kids pretending to fucking
throw punches and kicks and chops and shit like backyard wrestling. Bad.
And I hate to say that, because once again I
like him. He's got the fucking charisma. He has the personality, dude,
looks like a million bucks. But you gotta figure out
something with that work because it looks like ass and
Bricky was trying. Dude. I can't say too much bad
about Ricky other than like he hasn't been given a
whole hell of a lot this match For him to
get featured on a ple, I guess it's like that's
your shining moment. But yeah, this thing is, this was
a fucking dud, dude. I zoned out at one point
for like thirty seconds, looking at my probably end up
being like three minutes, looking at my phone, looking at
breakfast places to take the life tomorrow, and then I
and then the match was over, right, I fucking what happened?
I what happened? It was it's it was bad. So
I think that for both you and I, that's the
is that the spoiler alert for the end of the
show that that was probably the worst match. Oh.
Speaker 2: I was absolutely fucking completely just checked out at that point.
I didn't care about the match at all. There was
really no consequences for me. I just don't like Starks
in this position. Hobbs is off to one. Hobbs thing.
I'm sorry, I don't know, I'm just not really into
this match. And then the little Yadi involvement at the
end when he's given him the people's elbow or whatever
the fuck.
Speaker 1: These no reaction.
Speaker 2: Well, the crowd cheered, but it's like they it was
more like they jeered instead of cheered.
Speaker 1: Really, they're really overestimating the level of popularity of Little
fucking YACHTI. FYI, I'm not sitting here saying, you know,
I'm not a twenty something year old kid, which, by
the way, our twenty year old twenty something year old's
even aware of the career of Little YACHTI, because I'm
pretty sure that we were making fun of this guy
for having stupid songs in like twenty seventeen, so ten
years ago he was doing stupid fucking meme rap songs
with like little red beads in his hair. And then
he did layer commercial for Target that was a decade.
Speaker 2: Agoing Sprite commercials, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: He was Yeah, it was boll Yeah it was Sprity.
It was which that was Hilaire is because we're like,
look at this fucking guy, and then he just major
corporations were like, let's hitch our wagon too, this fucking turd,
but I can't. When's the last time, somebody, let me know,
look it up quick. When's the last time he had
a charting song, not like it made the top two
hundred or one hundred, but like a legitimately charting top twenty,
top fifty even I would guess twenty twenty one, twenty
twenty two, which is now a lifetime ago. And even
though he aesthetically like him coming out with Trick, Trick's
kind of a mellow guy and he needs somebody that
has some like oomphs to him. He needs somebody that's
got some fire and some personality. And Yati also is
just kind of like the yeah, yeah, it's me. There
we go. I'm like, dude, we need you to bring
some energy. You need to actually show a personality, which
I don't even know if he's fucking got it in
to do that, but yeah, you end up with two
guys that seemed kind of gun shy and a little
bit like yeah little too little, too blase for my liking.
And then yeah, the match ends and he does it.
He's supposedly trending to wrestle, by the way, little yachty
of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He hit the ropes like a like a seventy year
old woman. Uh.
Speaker 2: His little skip. I liked his little skip across the
uh across the ring. That was nice. Yeah it was
Was he doing that in like flip flops or in
some of those soft hellow kitty slippers or something, because.
Speaker 1: It's in me Ma's fucking muomo.
Speaker 2: Uh, I will say, you know, after Travis Scott blasting
people for real, maybe only hot, he did want to
keep everything nice and soft.
Speaker 1: So I know, the little Yachti's out there, He's like,
I'm a pear brother. I'm barely even gonna yeah, just
like it's just like tricks punches that don't get act.
I'm even get near you. Uh yeah, it's just really
fucking rough. And for the aw fans that always say, uh,
you know, well the grasses are always greener when you
go to wwses, you know he's greener. Uh. This is
one of those instances where I would look at you
and say fair enough, fair enough, because somehow this match
had a feeling of even though it had a six
foot two guy with all the potential in the world
and a theme song at an entrance at all this
fucking charisma. This felt kind of like the Costco guys.
To me, it felt like a Costco guy match, except
I think the Costco guy might throw punch just a
little bit better. But yeah, this was a rotten with
the Capitol are bad.
Speaker 2: We got singles match for the US Championship between Tiffany Stradden,
Jade Cargill and about fourteen other people.
Speaker 1: This wasn't the worst because you would have had to
have had expectations to be let down by it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1: I think that's the best describing factor of this. I
would have had to have thought that this would have
been okay for me to have been let down by it,
and that was just not a thing.
Speaker 2: They had to Charlotte got involved at the end, So
I guess we're gonna see that that match take place
the right.
Speaker 1: They need somebody, They need somebody's season to carry these
fucking head dogs around. Because if you thought the last
match looked faked the rehearsed, and have you thought bron
Breaker's ship in the ring looks faked and rehearsed, well, well,
well this match would have you absolutely floored at how
fucking insanely fake and rehearsed and practice this looked. There
was a point where tiff and he went for like
a I think it was a lama, He's straw cradle
fucking gimmick, and Jay just straight up fucking fell out
of it and did and they had no idea what
to do. I think eventually Tiffany like just kind of
grabbed her leg and tried to bin her. And then
they also had the girl in the ring as a
ref who's green as shit. I'm like, why are you
She's not horrible like that the ref they heads, He's
not the fucking dirt worst by any means. I think
that Jessica Carr girl is way worse than her. But
I'm like, why wouldn't you put somebody in there that
was seasoned to be in there with these two duds.
It's like they're setting them up to look bad on purpose,
almost like we know that these two aren't going to
have a good match. You know, you can't trust either
of them to carry this thing. That's why you send
out Charlotte and Mia Yim and fucking yeah yeah, And
why would you then also put in another raft that's
green too this this thing?
Speaker 2: Because I think again, this is just a place that
they can put bodies on a show and ultimately the
consequences don't matter. Usually on a Night of Champions. I mean,
we've joked about how many times, like, as soon as
Night of Champions is over, everything goes back to normal,
we can fucking forget about this show. But now we
can't do that because of the main event, right, they
can't just say that would be fucking hilarious if by
the time SmackDown rolls around, they're like, just give me
the belt back. That didn't count. It was not Champions.
Cody's just like, give me back my belt, dude, stop
that shit.
Speaker 1: Cody pulls out a contract and he's like, I.
Speaker 2: Wasn't saying this isn't a real match.
Speaker 1: You know international law shows. This is They just turned
Cody fucking into a religitious, shitty, fucking heel screw it. Yeah,
why not? But no, this was This was also really
fucking rough. But I think both you and I individually,
when Chelsea came out and did a thing and then
Charlotte showed up, We're both sitting there going I.
Speaker 2: It made sense to me, honestly, as silly as it sounds,
because they were trying to avoid us watching Tiffany Stratton
versus Jay Cargo.
Speaker 1: I know, but then in my mind I'm going, well,
why is this even happening? This should be like feature
the people who are ready to be on television and featured.
Jade is never going to fucking work.
Speaker 2: But they have to give They have to give the
Saudi Arabian fans of Jade Carghill and Tiffany Stratton a
chance to cheer, right, yeah, they want.
Speaker 1: To confirm the the misogyny of the Saudi Arabian fan base.
I guess you know. They're like, hey, if you think
the women aren't as good as the men, here's some proof. Boy,
that match before with the men sucked. Well, guess what
we're gonna make it even shittier.
Speaker 2: If in Saudi Arabia they just give everybody the worst
women's matches possible, so everybody goes home and feels good
about themselves.
Speaker 1: WWE presents. We told you so, right, A bias confirming
BLI for people Ria.
Speaker 2: Ripley will never work Saudi Arabia. Again.
Speaker 1: I know they're just in the back aginging it, but
giving them the opposite of good ideas well, this is
what I would do, so let's not, you know, they
just are feeding them how to make the shit worse.
But no, this, this was This was also rotten, but
it was only less rotten than the match previous because
I expected something out of the match brief for it
to be even a little bit better, and this was.
Speaker 2: It. Predictably, do hm, why were you expecting anything to
be better?
Speaker 1: Well, I expect Trick Williams and Ricky to put on
a better match than Jade and fucking and Tiffany Stratton
then fucking Jade and Fish Stratus there like. That's like,
I expect it to be a little bit more succinct
and at the very least do some character work and
be funny and entertaining. And once again, Ricky tried. Ricky
starts for what it's worth. He's far from perfect in
many respects. I'm sure he is a charity job for Cody,
but he tried, and that was not good. But at
this point, now we're at about an hour and a
half straight of pretty bad wrestling, and then you have
your main event, right.
Speaker 2: Main event was fun triple threat. Yeah, Gunther Sammy Cody,
solid fucking work from Gunther Gunther Savage as always, Gunther
brings the heat when it's necessary, Cody kind of going
through the motions. I felt like for most of the night.
I really feel like that Sammy and Gunther carried everything else.
I mean, Sammy was absolutely beloved coming out there, and
he always is. But Sammy turns it up when it's
time to put on a show. And obviously there was
a reason for him to turn it up tonight because
he's the new champion. Joe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is kind of funny when you think
of this, it's probably what ten more than ten years
ago now, Jesus Christ is probably closer to fifteen. When
we would do the soup bees and it was like,
why aren't these people signed? I said, well, Kevin Owens
and Algenderico both need to be signed. And aesthetically, I
completely understand why they didn't want to sign them, but
work wise and the ability to connect with people and
get a reaction, they both should have had a fucking contract.
Lo and Behold now both have been WWEE champion, and
I that when whatever way we want to chalk it
up to whatever it might be. And you know, I
saw Pat in there and he's like, can we say
that it's just as bad to put Sammy over for
WWE champ as it is to make Darby theaw one.
And I see what he's saying. But also at the
same time, there's these moments now on the shows where
they're clearly just fan service, and it's like, actually, for
fans who are just older people that have watched it
all the time, that's what a Sammy's Ain victory is, right,
that's just fan service, not even just for the live
audience in the Middle East, but for dudes like us, right,
isn't that what they were going for?
Speaker 2: He assume, Yeah, And you know, it was fine that
you said that, because coincidentally, when I think about back
on the soupies of people that I recommended for WWEI,
I said, when are they going to hire Orange Cassidy
and Jack Perry? Apparently it's.
Speaker 1: Man the match itself. I think that there was a
delay even in the reaction of the crowd, because they
didn't even believe Sammy was gonna win.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Instead of it going one two three, it was
literally like one two and they were like, all right,
here comes the fucking comes a get out.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know all those betting sites were like, I.
Speaker 1: Know, right, yea, Mark Shapiro just made seven tra jillion
more dollars off of fucking Cowshier.
Speaker 2: Just four people bet on Sammy and it wasn't Sammy.
Sam was like, dude, I had all my money on Cody.
What the fuck?
Speaker 1: Well, let's see there was a one million dollar bet
place by kick None. Uh, what's to say? Loll pu
vec Wow, this is weird. Who are these people that
put these bets down? I don't know who did this.
Sammy probably would. They probably told Sammy's a and he
was winning fucking five minutes before he went out there.
But I was just like, yeah, you're not leaking this, motherfucker.
We're not. We're pulling some pulling some ship here. Yeah. No,
it's fine because these are the dog days anyways. Uh,
everything that is happening in this company, for the most part,
is AI slop. There's not a whole hell of a
lot to where we look at it and you want
to say, well, why wouldn't they Bubba, you know what,
fuck it? Give El Jenerico your title. Who gives a fuck?
You know, he should have won it fucking five years
ago for a for ten minutes. Screw it. Just do
it now. Fuck it. And maybe that's the idea of
this in general. Is there some sort of grand as
let's see what will happen. Screw it, he'll get it,
probably like I said, till Summer Slam and we'll just say, well,
he was a former fucking champion. Or let's dude, let's
totally last half aull of this. You ready for this?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Kevin Owens comes back, Kevin Owens comes back to challenging.
Speaker 2: I would love that, but he just did a thing
where he was talking about he's not ready to step
back in the ring, and I don't know whether to
believe him or not, because you're right, a lot of
people will tell you I'm not ready to go. But
then this was also in the same week that Biggie's like, yeah, dude,
I'm done with wrestling. It's not happening, you know. So
it's it's difficult for me to take face value of
Kevin Owens when it's like he's saying this is the
same week that Biggie's like, no, man, I'm I'm done.
Speaker 1: I gotta say this to Biggie two love him, Love Biggie.
You know, sometimes we're the harshest on those that we
cheer for. But Biggie, just like he gave up wrestling
when you needed to, and you made a good choice.
I do the same thing with your hair, bud. That
hairline is fucking o, brother, Let it go, Let.
Speaker 2: It go, play going, I say, fucking make it go higher.
Make it go higher. Higher equals ratings, right, teddy.
Speaker 1: Shit, I know, Oh wow, that's that is an old
teddy saying yeah the man like I'm seeing him and
I'm going, dude, no one told you cool, cool ball
black guy, Like that's okay. Like, there's a lot of
white dudes that hold onto their hair too long because
if they shave their fucking heads, they look like they
look like fucking psychopaths, so they should be banish from
being able to go one of the toys r us.
But like he's just you just look like like he's
a big jack black dude. If he's bald, he's gonna
look cool. Just let it go, dude, You look it
looks insane.
Speaker 2: I bring it back, bring back the eighties.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Maybe you can get like a little like a little
Z cut in there at some point too.
Speaker 1: Honestly, dude, if it was full horseshoe. It would almost
be better. Oh yeah, that could look like the dude
from Good Times. Yeah, if he if he had the
arn Anderson horseshoe, bad fucking ass, that would rule. That
would actually look cool. But right now it's like, yeah,
that's yeah, you're right, I'd fuck with that. I think
that was really fucking cool. But it's like he's in
that weird space where I'm like, dude, let it go, man,
gotta let that ship go. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But you know what that is though, too. That's youth
cutting that album. That's gonna change. That's not just changing
your hair, Joe. That's changing the dynamic of how people
are gonna see him. He's no longer going to be youthful, spry,
fun loving big e. It's gonna be big Edward. You know,
Like it's just it's a large Edward, mister, a large Edward.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's largenman. Uh, don't you dare be too acidicky,
I'll get hot burn. Don't you dare be a little
too spicy. I'll stay up, I won't be able to
sleep out there.
Speaker 2: You go. Dark cables, right, yeah, make them look like
a Bob Sap type.
Speaker 1: That'd be fucking cool. See that looks.
Speaker 2: Cool, but you know that's anymore so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know, but like the honest to god, it's like
a half step right where if you got the horseshoe,
the horseshoe can look fucking cool. Like there's dudes that
pull off the horseshoe, like you mentioned Ron Simmons, fucking awesome, right,
that was badass at the time. A lot of the
eighties dads, you know, a lot of the nineties Uh
you know, Carl Winslow had the horseshoe.
Speaker 2: Carl Winslow was a badass.
Speaker 1: Come on, now, I don't know. He was in one
of the greatest action films of all time. No Diehard.
If people forget that, no Carl Winslow. Carl Winslow, no.
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm saying no, no, what he forgets that?
Who forgets Oh okay, now you're saying no he wasn't.
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me tell you, I have a pretty
bad memory, but I remember Carlin Slope. But the uh yeah,
but by the way, Carl Winslow, Kay, dude, Hey, dude
with the horseshoe mustache. Best dad maybe of the nineties
on television.
Speaker 2: Well, it's because he wasn't touching his kids, you know, so.
Speaker 1: That's also he just looked over and he's like, who's
my main competition? Like Bill Cosby, He's like, swoosh big waiting.
Speaker 2: For me, give me that TG I f award, damn
my fucking t G I F.
Speaker 1: Who else am I? Who else am I competing against you?
And they're like, uh, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Bill and the guy from Unhappily Ever After Good Luck folks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god. I watched a retros This is
how fucking board some days. I I watched a retrospective
on YouTube of that show and I had I'd completely
forgotten that that girl, Nikki Cox was fucking dating bobcat goldswaight,
oh yeah, and she was like at her absolute most
fucking attractive, that's who.
Speaker 2: She said. It was the voice that got her because
Bob apparently spoke the language of love. And I'm just like, uh,
what fuck?
Speaker 1: You know what, that's the.
Speaker 2: Shit. Joey just lost his connection from that. Holy shit, did.
Speaker 1: I go out?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh that I was gonna say when you said Joey
for a second, I was gonna say, you mean like
Joey Janella and Bob kat Goldswaite should like do a
fucking Mega Power's handshake, like just the Overachievers Awards, you know.
Uh yeah, no, dude, Yeah, Biggie's gotta let that go.
It's gotta let that go. I love him.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about gun there for a second.
Speaker 1: Because yeah, yeah, Honestly, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: The most important aspect of this match is the guy
that's not going anywhere. Gunther arguably made this match more
visceral and violence than it would have ever been had
it just been Sammy and Cody. He added so much
to the match. The fans clearly booed the shit out
of Gunther, and I just have this feeling like Gunther's
just the B plus player. He's turning into the miz.
They've given this guy everything. Instead of letting him cook,
instead of letting him become something, they just keep rug
pulling him. Was that enough buzzwords?
Speaker 1: Well, Well, here's here's a good question. Are they going
to put him in a position like Seamus was where
Seamus at any given point they would just throw the
title on him and he'd win most of his matches
Like that was Seamus's thing until what twenty twenty. Basically
he won all of his matches and if he hit
that fucking brogue kicked, that was it. It was like
one of the most protected finishers in WWE for a decade.
Is that what they're gonna do with Gunther? I'm guessing
where they're like, hey, listening.
Speaker 2: I don't think Seamus is fair. Probably more like a
Drew though.
Speaker 1: Ah, I think he's I think he'll be God, that's
kind of sad that we're like, I think he'll be
positioned better than Drew and you're like, yeah, Drew, the
six foot three, jacked, fucking Scottish guy, you can cut promos.
It's like it's still it's it's tough, but yeah, Seamus
was always on the back burner. Seamus had a better.
Speaker 2: Jar said, yeah, well, Shon's had more love from Triple H.
That's why I said he's more like a Drew crew
where Drew. Drew's career is ebbs and flows. There are
times when the company believes them and then nobody else does,
and then there's the times where the fans are behind
Drew and the company doesn't give a shit, and it's
just this weird mismatch of Drew's career where at this point.
If the company and the fans could align for half
a second on this dude's career, he would be the
face of the fucking company.
Speaker 1: But they can't.
Speaker 2: They can't. They tried. They've been trying since see him
Punk return. They've been trying. Oh, they trying, but they
just can't get Drew off the ground.
Speaker 1: Drew is like one of those you know, speaking of
like nineties sitcoms or rom coms or something where they
would make one and it would be about like older
people that got divorced and they'd be like, well, we've
always been we were just never in the right place
at the right time. You always with somebody. I was
always with somebody, and blah blah blah blah blah, and
it's like you're right where. It's like Drew is sitting there.
It's like, well, the fans want to see him in
the company. He's like, b what about Samolians. You got
to make sure Simlins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joey just called Drew McIntyre the entire cast of
Sex and the City.
Speaker 1: So uh oh yeah, dear mister big mister big true
mister big mister biggie.
Speaker 2: Mister large Edwards.
Speaker 1: You know what, maybe if he did that if he
shaved his head and grew a mustache or did just
the full fucking the full horseshoe and the mustache and
called himself Large Edward that was his name. Now was
a commentator. All right, you think we can do.
Speaker 2: That with it, Just get a bunch of the guys,
have them shave, shave a horseshoe into their fucking head
and form a stable.
Speaker 1: I believe that was called the the Anderson's. That was
the thing for a while, right where the E C
W they had the C Yeah, which that's it too,
Like there's there's some looks that people go, well, yeah,
it makes you look older whatever, you know it instead
of it like.
Speaker 2: A stable called the stable Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wasn't there some uh some? I think
it was an indie So it was like they were
the the unstable. It's like, oh fuck yeah. I was
like on the notes it we're a stable, but we're crazy.
Uh yeah know that crazy Steve. Yeah, Cuckoo Stefan. How's
cougu Stefan doing? Is he?
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if j W cucku Stefan should be
in j c W.
Speaker 1: Oh Man, like you know, speaking of family matters. What
if he in j c W had the machine like
Steve Verkle had and he would go in and would
make him. He would go in as crazy as Steve
and then come out as Cuckoo Stefan. And Cuckoo Stefan
was like real badass, you know, and crazy ste He's
just kind of a dork and a loser. But Cuckoo
Stefan it's like his Cactus Jack kind of character. Yes, folks,
this is how fucking.
Speaker 2: W Let's talk about it. Favorite least favorite match on
the show overall, girl, Joe.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, my favorite thing. I mean, I just have
to be the main event. It was the closest thing
we had to like a match, like a good solid
match that had an actual tangible outcome. Yeah, well, I
mean what else was It's really.
Speaker 2: I figured the push of Oba was exciting enough for you.
Speaker 1: Well, I like Obo, but this was Let's be real,
this is this isn't the Ultimate Warrior versus fucking Rebo man,
Like that's what you got at this point? Uh No,
the main event would have to be the best thing
on it, and the worst thing would be the US
title match. And it's only because, like I said, compared
to Jade and fucking fish Stratus. There, you had expectations.
I had expected them to do better and show out,
and instead it was not great grade D strength day,
and I think that's pretty fair. I think that's being
generous to give this a DG.
Speaker 2: I'll go a favorite with Oba. I was happy that
there was no Brock interference. I was happy that there
wasn't a thousand and one bloodline numbers out there. I
was happy the fact that Oba got a nice clean win,
looked good, carrying a fucking crown round his head gave
him some validity. I think this match is a lot
more important than we'll we'll really understand until SummerSlam comes around.
With that said, I think SummerSlam is going to be
very painful for Oba. In the long run of things,
it'll die down, but SummerSlam is going to be the
time that he pays the piper a little bit. Least
favorite match on the show. Seth and bron Breaker just
two guys out there that don't even use a steel cage, right,
It's just it was. It was boring. It was hard
to fucking focus on. I know that I should say
trick and and fucking Ricky because I didn't give a
shit about that. But I don't know, I expect more
out of a guy. I expect more out of two
guys in the middle of a blood feud in a
steel cage. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just I've given up on sas a decade ago,
and Brian Breaker is a failure to launch. I mean,
i'm i'm I feel pretty safe in saying that about
him at this point.
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was a horrible show. I mean, like,
so all right, I see even Sean saying I thought
it was a good show. I liked I liked the
first two matches. I love the Owen Live. I thought
that was fine. I know you were kind of on it.
I I like the story of Charlotte getting involved with
the Jade and the Tiffany. I think there's a little
bit of irony there of Charlotte being the one to
come to Tiffany's run, and obviously anything that highlights Chelsea
was nice. So storyline wise, that is great. The match
itself was whatever. Don't give a ship Seth and Brawn Breaker,
though they've been building this aubstance for for how long?
Since what half a year?
Speaker 1: November, you know, I mean so longer than yeah, yeah,
Jesus Christ, yeah, seven or eight months. And this is
and this is like we were talking about.
Speaker 2: These guys should be wanting these these guys should be
out there killing each other like they should have had
the same kind of fervor that Gunther had in that
main event.
Speaker 1: I know, I know. And this is the problem. Is
it that you got State Cup who's not ready and
Seth who cannot I'm.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, just because the news sites aren't reporting,
it doesn't mean that there might not be some semblance
of truth, right, you know, Like I wouldn't be surprised
if we find out Monday, that Monday that that guy's
fucking hurt again, Like, oh, what do you do with him?
At this point? Let's put every three matches he gets hurt.
Speaker 1: If if he's hurt again, I will have to do
something that I don't ever want to do, and it's
that I will have to say I feel bad for
Seth because they have married this guy to Seth in
this fucking storyline. In every single one of the matches
he's had with him, he's brown breakers either fucking injured
himself or the match has been just pretty fucking bad
with a capital B. So I do kind of if
that's the case, if he is hurt again, not that
I still don't feel bad in my own sort of
respect that Seth has to continue to do this, but
also you reap what you saw. You're supposed to be
a vet, you're older, you're supposed to help bring people up,
and they see potential in this kid.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: It's not there. It's not there. He's a failure to launch.
I would get him off of the main roster television,
and believe it or not, I'd send him down to
fucking Triple A, have him do something with the Undertaker,
even just anything to change, give him a change of scenery,
give him some more seasoning, send him over with fucking
what's his name there? With a big boy, send him
over to fucking Noah. I mean, he's just not ready.
He's not And Trick also is not ready. Fucking uh
what's her face there? She's also not ready. It was
just a lot of people on this show, but.
Speaker 2: It was I mean, for the most part, it was
it was down the middle. For me, Like I, I
don't find all the nuances that you do in a
lot of these matches because you see things that I don't.
But I mean, on the surface level, like I said,
I probably enjoyed four out of the six matches, or
I enjoyed three out of the six, tolerated one, and
two of them I could have really done without.
Speaker 1: So but that's what I'm saying. I would go as
far as to say, I like a fifty to fifty split,
like the opener I wasn't thrilled about. I think jay
Us is the shits, But.
Speaker 2: But you still pretty much like everything said but one match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was mostly bad. I mean it was mostly bad,
but like I said, half of it was possible, Like
it wasn't fully like it. Let's put it as way,
if the main event wasn't as good as it was,
this would have just been a fucking f This would
have been an easy, fucking fail across the board.
Speaker 2: You know what, You're right, You're right with that. If
that main event ended up being.
Speaker 1: A dud, yeah, then this would just be This would
have just been a bad show pretty much from start
to finish. And it helped it saved it saved the show, which,
by the way, kind of duh, that's what the main
event is supposed to do, which is also part of
why whenever people are like, well, Roman's on the show,
I'm like, so the rest of the show has to
be better to carry a Roman main event. Because Roman's
gonna be in the main event, It's gonna be a
twenty five minute long entrance, it's gonna be a bunch
of convoluted bullshit, a bunch of slow pod upplauding nonsense,
and then he goes over. So you need the undercard
to be better. This was the inverse and what it's
usually supposed to be, which is a build to a
main event where something big happens with your top talent,
and that's what this was. But I don't know. I'm
still sticking with my grade. What would you end up
giving it?
Speaker 2: I'd probably go with the B honestly. Oh that's that's
very like I said. I just didn't find it. The
trick shit sucked. Actually it's yeah, it was bad. I
the Tiffany and Jay thing was passable. It was passable.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: I liked the character work of it. I like seeing
Chelsea out there. I like Charlotte geting involved. I'm always
going to be a sucker for Charlotte and Tiffany Stretton
still holds a place in my heart from her NXT
days that maybe this chick can still turn it around.
I don't know. I just I'm not waiting. I'm not
I'm not ready to put the bullet in the chamber yet.
That's all Jade. Yeah, you can take Jade out on
a fucking stretcher.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: Jade is done. Get rid of Jade. I'm all set
with Jada. I'm not into the Storm Alliance like fuck
out of here, Machine and b FAB or just D
plus players.
Speaker 1: You know, like allions? Is that there?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 1: That what they're calling them?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure they would if it was nineteen forty eight,
but so.
Speaker 1: Oh god, where they called the weather girls?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't that wasn't all right.
Speaker 1: It's raining made halleluja. Yeah, no, that's it. Most of
the ship was not particularly good. I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it. I'm just saying that's where I put it.
I put it at like a B minus. So anyways,
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