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<v Speaker 4>Hey, I'm Tom Martino in the Mothership today having Car Friday.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what it is. Welcome to the show. Three oh

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome Car Day, Car Friday. What's happening? Well, whatever's on

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<v Speaker 4>your mind. It doesn't have to be about cars. But

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<v Speaker 4>I have a number of things I want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to talk about leasing. I've decided the cost

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<v Speaker 4>of money and the cost of cars and the cost

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<v Speaker 4>of let's just put it this way. I used to

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<v Speaker 4>think leasing was not a great idea. I think leasing

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<v Speaker 4>is the best idea. Leasing is the most logical smart way.

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<v Speaker 4>But there is a big giant pitfall when leasing, and

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<v Speaker 4>everyone falls in it. But if you could get around

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<v Speaker 4>the pitfall. I'm going to show you how it's wise.

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<v Speaker 4>It's wisdom to lease in many cases. Now, remember I

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<v Speaker 4>told you the leasing part has to do with if

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<v Speaker 4>you do it right, if you do it wrong leasing,

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<v Speaker 4>and most people do it wrong, leasing is terrible. So

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot to talk about leasing. The acquisition is

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<v Speaker 4>where people get screwed. They pile on stuff they normally

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't pile on when they're purchasing because they have an

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<v Speaker 4>artificially low payment, which takes the entire advantage out of

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<v Speaker 4>a lease. The other thing is if you can't, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you this, you will never and I mean never.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care what incentives they offer, you will never ever, ever, ever, ever,

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<v Speaker 4>ever ever ever have a good lease. If you terminate

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<v Speaker 4>early or you put on too many miles, do not

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<v Speaker 4>do it, You absolutely positively will have a problem. The

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<v Speaker 4>other thing, people say, what if I want to buy

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<v Speaker 4>my car at the end of the lease. Nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 4>with it, but I recommend that you don't, and we'll

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<v Speaker 4>go over why and we'll talk about it. Three zero three. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I guess if it's an extraordinary deal. There

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<v Speaker 4>have been some leases lately Jeffar Cars with us Rodney.

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<v Speaker 4>There have been some cases where cars actually ended up

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<v Speaker 4>being worth more at the end of the lease. Around

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<v Speaker 4>COVID time, when you were coming up on a lease,

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<v Speaker 4>your car was worth more than you could buy it

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<v Speaker 4>out for and you had the option in some leases

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<v Speaker 4>to buy it out right and then you keep it

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<v Speaker 4>or sell it right. Put that might near your mouth.

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<v Speaker 4>There persa right, weren't there a lot of cars coming

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<v Speaker 4>up more expand I'm worth more than the residual.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, And that's because of the lack of manufacturers cars

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<v Speaker 5>that were out there, which brought up the price because

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<v Speaker 5>we couldn't get cars and manufacturers wouldn't be able to

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<v Speaker 5>produce them so and the new cars were not getting

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<v Speaker 5>any used cars because they couldn't replace their used cars

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<v Speaker 5>with a new car.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly. You can text me five seven seven thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the iHeart app. But you can also go directly

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<v Speaker 4>to my phone seven four seven nine nine nine fifty

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<v Speaker 4>two eighty that is my Google number. Forwards to my

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<v Speaker 4>cell phone that's seven four seven nine nine eighty. And

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<v Speaker 4>another thing I want to talk about. Somebody said, what

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<v Speaker 4>do I do about political texts? Well, everyone that gets

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<v Speaker 4>political texts can opt out. You opt out, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>avoid the first ones. If you're a registered voter, if

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<v Speaker 4>you're independent, you're going to get them from both. If

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<v Speaker 4>you're Democratic Republican, you'll get from one or the other.

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<v Speaker 4>But political people have a pass when it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>the no call list. So the first one's free, or

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<v Speaker 4>the first few when you opt out, they should honor it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm going to be straight with you. No one's

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<v Speaker 4>going to with No one's going to go after him

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<v Speaker 4>if they don't. Okay, that's the truth. Let's talk to Kent. Hi, Kent,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Tom Martinez. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 6>Kent?

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<v Speaker 7>Good morning, Tom? Can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure, Ken Kent? What is happening in your life?

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<v Speaker 7>In April of twenty twenty three, I hired a company

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<v Speaker 7>called Turfin r Fin.

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<v Speaker 4>Apostrophe Turfin and that is a landscaping company or what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just guessing.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a landscaping company that specializes in synthetic turf installation.

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<v Speaker 4>Turfin and it's an off of a Surfin I guess so.

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<v Speaker 4>And this was April of this year, right, So what happened.

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<v Speaker 7>Pearl of April of twenty twenty three oh of.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty twenty three. Sorry, okay, got it, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 8>I have a.

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<v Speaker 7>Issue with his performance to the contract. He installed the turf,

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<v Speaker 7>and initially it was great, and it's been out in

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<v Speaker 7>the sun a year and a little over a year,

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<v Speaker 7>maybe four months.

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<v Speaker 4>How much city installed?

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<v Speaker 7>About five thousand square feet? Okay, not insignificant. But you

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<v Speaker 7>know he's not going to retire on my job.

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<v Speaker 9>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a lot of turf, bro, it is okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it is. It's a lot. So what happened?

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<v Speaker 7>He did not take the scenes down and they started

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<v Speaker 7>coming apart and they're showing straight lines in the turf.

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<v Speaker 7>So I sent him a email or excuse me, that

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<v Speaker 7>text and ask him if he'd come out as he

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<v Speaker 7>said he would do.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, can I ask you something? When you said he

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<v Speaker 4>did not tape the seams down, you're talking as if

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<v Speaker 4>that standard. I don't know what standard. I'm asking you.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you find out that was standard?

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<v Speaker 7>I have since found out that was standard, and he

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<v Speaker 7>just used the big yard pins to nail it down, and.

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<v Speaker 4>That is okay. Did you have another company come out

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<v Speaker 4>and say this was done wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, keep going, bro, keep going, But you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm Okay, as long as it is he comes back

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<v Speaker 7>and tighten up the seams. You know, I'm not a professional.

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<v Speaker 7>I trusted his judgment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but in the meantime, Yeah, but okay, now does

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<v Speaker 4>turf does the backing on the turf and the tape

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<v Speaker 4>keep weeds from coming through?

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<v Speaker 7>Well? He put down a weed fabric, which was good.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, he did install that good.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So what are we having now? Are what do

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<v Speaker 4>you want right now?

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<v Speaker 7>I want him to fix the scenes and I want

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<v Speaker 7>him to do what he said he would do in

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<v Speaker 7>the contract and what he wrote in the contract, And

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<v Speaker 7>it says there was a low area next to the

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<v Speaker 7>patio that was water was pooling, and it says we'll

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<v Speaker 7>build a retaining wall to help level the area so

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<v Speaker 7>water no longer pools near a patio.

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<v Speaker 4>How much how much would you pay for this job?

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<v Speaker 7>Too much?

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<v Speaker 4>How much would that be too much? Sixteen sixteen thousand? Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So here's what I want to know. When was the

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<v Speaker 4>last time you talked to this guy?

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<v Speaker 7>I texted him this morning and he told me Turfin

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<v Speaker 7>has gone out of business.

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<v Speaker 4>You're done.

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<v Speaker 7>A new company. Apparently you're done. He's got a new company.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, you're done.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's what they do. That's what they do.

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<v Speaker 4>They start LLC's, they end l Warranties are only as

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<v Speaker 4>good as the company. I don't care who it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I love my companies on the referral list, but truly,

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<v Speaker 4>when they say a lifetime warranty, like, I'm not picking

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<v Speaker 4>on anybody. I love them all, I really do. But

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<v Speaker 4>if you get any one of them they say a

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<v Speaker 4>lifetime warranty. Let's take Elite garage Floors, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>the wonderful company. They do the best job I've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 4>Elite garage doors, and they say garage floors are guaranteed

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<v Speaker 4>for life. Okay, Now, if Tony retires and goes out

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<v Speaker 4>of business, who's going to do those floors? I mean

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<v Speaker 4>unless you sell the company someone who takes over that,

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<v Speaker 4>which they won't. No one will. I'm not singling out anyone.

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<v Speaker 4>This is everyone in the world. Everyone who has a

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<v Speaker 4>lifetime warranty. It's the lifetime of the one backing the warranty. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>if they do it repeatedly and there's a pattern of

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<v Speaker 4>deceit and corruption, that's different. If they do it now

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<v Speaker 4>and then it's business. So if this guy sold a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of stuff with warranties and then purposely went out

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<v Speaker 4>of business because all of his claims. And you get

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<v Speaker 4>together with other consumers and prove it and blah blah

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah. But normally people don't do that and

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<v Speaker 4>it's not worth it, and these sole practitioners know that.

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<v Speaker 4>So this guy is just what was it just an LLC?

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<v Speaker 4>Or is it a big corporation? What are we talking

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<v Speaker 4>about here?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know how big it is. All I can

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<v Speaker 7>tell you is, well, wait a minute, let me see.

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<v Speaker 7>So he changed the name of the company to something

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<v Speaker 7>very similar, synthetic Turfin LLC.

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<v Speaker 4>He could call it Turfin number two. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 4>could call it. Listen, they can dissolve the LLC and

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<v Speaker 4>they can reinstitute a new one and they don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to honor the past unless there is fraud.

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<v Speaker 7>I think I'm hinting, hinting to fraud.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, you can hint all you want. A fraud

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<v Speaker 4>can I want? I want to help you, right, So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not being a smart ass. You can hint all

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<v Speaker 4>you want, But so what tell me what's fraudulent? Tell me?

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<v Speaker 4>You tell me where he committed fraud and again. When

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<v Speaker 4>I say this, I'm not challenging you. This is an

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<v Speaker 4>example for people listening who think that they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to get something done. I want to know.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me what he did. This's fraudulent.

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<v Speaker 7>He said he would intall install a French train.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, do that? All right? Hold on, all right, hold on.

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<v Speaker 4>He breached the contract. The damages are you have no

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<v Speaker 4>French strain. Now here's here's what would be fraud. Fraud

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<v Speaker 4>would be if he never intended to do it, and

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<v Speaker 4>he went ahead and charged you for it, got paid

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<v Speaker 4>for it, and never intended to do it, In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>intended to take the money and not do it. But

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<v Speaker 4>he went out of business. And he'll say, your honor,

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to do it. I ran into financial difficulty.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to dissolve the company. Yeah, Kim, I probably

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<v Speaker 4>think you're right. He probably is a scumbag, especially if

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<v Speaker 4>you find I'm doing more and more of these. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>what is the guy's name, by the way.

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<v Speaker 7>Brian Richmond, Brian Richmond Company. He's in Firestone. Okay, company

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<v Speaker 7>names Colorado Colorado Turfin with an apostrophe, synthetic turf company.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what you ought to do? What you ought to

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<v Speaker 4>do is let people know online reviews and as many

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<v Speaker 4>reviews as you can do, especially up in his area.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what you can do. I'm serious. It's you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have less energy and less money spent having someone fix it.

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<v Speaker 7>But since he's dissolved the first company and started the

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<v Speaker 7>second one, I can't go to small claims or anything

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<v Speaker 7>like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well you could try, I mean, you know that'll clust

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<v Speaker 4>you fifty bucks. That's not a bad idea. You could

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<v Speaker 4>Tony's got a question on maintenance. Not sure what kind

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<v Speaker 4>of maintenance? Oh on a Ford twenty twelve Ford f

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<v Speaker 4>one fifty, guys, let me just ask this straight up.

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<v Speaker 4>With normal weight maintenance, an F one fifty, normal maintenance,

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<v Speaker 4>vehicles with normal maintenance? How long will and I mean

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<v Speaker 4>miles because it could be years. How long will that last?

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<v Speaker 4>How long will without any major repairs just regular maintenance?

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<v Speaker 4>Easy with no major problems, no majors, as long as

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<v Speaker 4>you do all the maintenance. Do you think that jet thing?

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<v Speaker 11>So I mean you can easily get two and three

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<v Speaker 4>Come up around one to fifty. Then what would be

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<v Speaker 6>Most likely a transmission you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thinks, Okay, then what we then bottom end?

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<v Speaker 4>Radiators. You know that kind of basically would ever need

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<v Speaker 6>It shouldn't if you take care of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, now, Tony, what's your question, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 12>First to comment on the turf guy, Yesh, I'm in

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<v Speaker 12>the business. Uh, he essentially paid a little more than

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<v Speaker 12>three bucks of square foot if he did five thousand

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<v Speaker 12>a square foot. Wow, I've already put in fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 12>square feet, I mean five thousand. I think he just

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<v Speaker 12>he spent five thousand dollars, I mean fifty thousand dollars right,

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<v Speaker 12>So at sixteen thousand dollars for five thousand square feet,

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<v Speaker 12>he got what he paid for, honestly, because I can't

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<v Speaker 12>even believe the guy and the material will cost more

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<v Speaker 12>than that. I don't know how it was done. It

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<v Speaker 12>cannot be good material at their installation, and also the

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<v Speaker 12>walls he's going to install walls and include those dollars

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<v Speaker 12>crazy good price, so he shouldn't feel bad about that anyhow. Uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 12>I have an F one fifty twenty twelve to recently

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<v Speaker 12>rated as the greatest used truck in the history of

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<v Speaker 12>nothing wrong with it. I'm just wondering, what, since it's

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<v Speaker 12>got so many miles, what am I missing? I've changed

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<v Speaker 12>the training oil and you know you're not missing anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro, You're doing everything right. Yeah, you do what you're

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<v Speaker 4>doing exactly. I want to ask something. How many miles

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<v Speaker 4>you said? Two twenty? Wow?

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<v Speaker 12>Twenty?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're doing great.

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<v Speaker 12>People look at my truck. You know you can tell

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<v Speaker 12>from the front end what year it is or what

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<v Speaker 12>range of years it is because of the headlight and

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<v Speaker 12>the grill.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. If you're that much person, I can't do Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, but uh, people look at my truck and say, why.

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<v Speaker 4>Do people love that truck so much? I mean, do

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<v Speaker 4>you tell me, Tony.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm not I will never I will never drive anything, But.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me what one I mean? I I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not denying that. I'm just saying, what do people love

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<v Speaker 4>them so much? Why are they? Do they have beautiful interiors.

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<v Speaker 12>I've got the platinum trim. It's fantastic. Uh, it's so comfortable.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean I'll just never drive anything.

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<v Speaker 13>Sure sure, sure, wow, So okay, well I just wouldn't

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<v Speaker 13>make sure I was Well, guys, I mean you just

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<v Speaker 13>heard them say that if if it's moving, it's grooving.

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<v Speaker 4>So you don't do anything until you need to, you

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<v Speaker 4>do your regular maintenance.

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<v Speaker 6>And he's obviously doing it. Well yeah, yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm to him. I use by the way, they're a

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<v Speaker 12>great shop. I love Scottie. What's that budget A one?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah schmid Mark, Yes, he said budget one transmission

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<v Speaker 14>Right, yep, yep, yep, Mark mcclaus.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's Machowsky Mark, great guy, great people.

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<v Speaker 6>So all right, so listen.

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<v Speaker 4>You're you're doing well. Now you're going to come up

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<v Speaker 4>on a transmission soon. What will that cost there, Jeff?

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<v Speaker 7>A transmission because you're still a four speed, no sixty

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<v Speaker 7>six speed.

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<v Speaker 14>That can cost up words getting you know, around the

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<v Speaker 14>sixty five hundred dollars Mark.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, when it comes to a training, I mean

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<v Speaker 12>I just had the training oil change or flew a change,

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<v Speaker 12>and uh they did a complete checkout and said, everything

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<v Speaker 12>looks fantastic, and when it comes to time to replace

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<v Speaker 12>the training, it's probably time to replace the truck.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't know. I mean it depends

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<v Speaker 4>if you like you know, I'm serious, it depends. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean you could, but there you could actually if you

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<v Speaker 4>replace that trainee, get another?

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<v Speaker 6>What get another?

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<v Speaker 4>It's really up to you. At this point. You did

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<v Speaker 4>the right thing by you did the right thing by

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<v Speaker 4>just keeping track of this. Do you know how much

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<v Speaker 4>they're going for in your vintage with all that miles?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what they're going for? What do you think?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm afraid to know. Probably five thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>Dollars No, no, way, more twelve to fifteen yeah, twelve to

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen thousand birth yeah, I mean come.

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<v Speaker 12>On, okay, well that's better than I thought.

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<v Speaker 4>Well actually, no, your trim package is more. Absolutely yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't you have the best? Uh yeah, pretty good? Pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you, uh hey, you can't. There's a reason

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<v Speaker 4>they're selling out selling everything in the world right now,

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<v Speaker 4>as far as most dependable brands. J f R Cars

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<v Speaker 4>brought this in from Consumer Reports. Now, remember I want

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<v Speaker 4>to tell you something about consumer reports. It's this organization

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<v Speaker 4>obviously is credible, but they do everything on surveys. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>keep that in mind. They don't go out and actually

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<v Speaker 4>research it, not that they need to, but and surveys

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<v Speaker 4>are probably some of the most can be some of

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<v Speaker 4>the most accurate. But people who have problems report more

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<v Speaker 4>than people that love what they have. Well, well, actually,

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<v Speaker 4>I should put it two ways. If you absolutely love

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<v Speaker 4>perfection and everything, if you're extremely happy, you'll make noise,

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<v Speaker 4>or unhappy you'll make noise. The mediocre, the middle customers

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<v Speaker 4>don't make noise, and it's hard to get them to

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<v Speaker 4>do surveys. But and we don't know the actual realities.

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<v Speaker 4>You could have somebody who said I had nothing but

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<v Speaker 4>trouble with that truck or car, and really it was

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<v Speaker 4>minor and with the right shop it wouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 4>nothing but trouble. So you'll get a faulty survey. I

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<v Speaker 4>get that's just the way it is. But if you

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<v Speaker 4>do go by the surveys of consumer reports, Lexus is

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<v Speaker 4>number one for quality or for reliability. I'm sorry, Toyota's

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<v Speaker 4>number two, Mazda's number three. Now I defy that Mazda

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<v Speaker 4>price me as we come y, guys. Number four is accurate.

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<v Speaker 4>Number five is Honda. I don't know. Let's talk to Mike. Mike,

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 14>I bought that two thousand and two Durrango in two

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<v Speaker 14>thousand and four and I still have it. I bought

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<v Speaker 14>it with thirty thousand miles on it, and I have

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<v Speaker 14>two hundred and sixty thousand miles on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, what did you do to it?

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<v Speaker 14>I just just regular eight AND's I put a radiator,

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<v Speaker 14>a starter, and an alternator on it. That was it

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<v Speaker 14>so far. But I just kept care of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well you are taking care of it. What are you

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<v Speaker 4>going to do with it? Just run it till the

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<v Speaker 4>wheels fall off.

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<v Speaker 14>I guess I'm not gonna I was going to get

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<v Speaker 14>a truck and sell it, and now I'm not going

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<v Speaker 14>to get much money for trade in, so I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>Now, people people who buy vehicle and run it their

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<v Speaker 4>money ahead, or people who lease. I think the weirdest

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<v Speaker 4>thing you can do is what I've done. I think

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<v Speaker 4>I have wasted a ton of money on cars. The

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<v Speaker 4>way I bought them in the past, and I pay

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<v Speaker 4>for them, and I think it's stupid, it's a bad

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<v Speaker 4>use of capital. I'm learning so much about this as

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<v Speaker 4>I actually did the math. I used to want to say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I own it. I didn't want to payment, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>want to mess with anything. I just wanted to own it.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was a bad use of capital. It was

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<v Speaker 4>literally costing me way more money than if I had

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<v Speaker 4>leased it. And now this is not in a time

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<v Speaker 4>of my life where I was putting on a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of mileage. That's different. Financing can be a bad thing,

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<v Speaker 4>and of course it all has to do whether leasing

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<v Speaker 4>or buying. It all has to do with acquisition, with purchase,

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<v Speaker 4>with the initial cost. And that's where most people get

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<v Speaker 4>screwed on the initial costs, especially with leasing, because your payment,

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<v Speaker 4>as I say, is artificially low because you're only paying

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<v Speaker 4>for the use of the vehicle. Dealers have a tendency

422
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<v Speaker 4>to pack the payment that takes out all the value. Right,

423
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<v Speaker 4>don't you think, Rodney, you're you're leasing guy was here?

424
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<v Speaker 4>What a great guy. What's his first name? Bob? Bob?

425
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<v Speaker 4>What a good guy? Now, Bob said, they don't do

426
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<v Speaker 4>that he'll he'll let you buy whatever you want, but

427
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<v Speaker 4>he gives you the raw numbers, right.

428
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<v Speaker 6>We don't pack the numbers. We give you the numbers.

429
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<v Speaker 5>And and you know the challenge is when people go

430
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<v Speaker 5>in and say my payments, I want my payment five

431
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<v Speaker 5>hundred dollars a month.

432
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<v Speaker 6>Well, they're going to.

433
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<v Speaker 5>Do everything to make sure it's it's five hundred.

434
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And then well here's the problem. They're they're comparing

435
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<v Speaker 4>a lease with a purchase and there could be a

436
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<v Speaker 4>two or three hundred dollars difference. Right, So if there's

437
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<v Speaker 4>a two or three hundred dollars difference, the dealer says, hmm,

438
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<v Speaker 4>I'll get him to within one hundred dollars. She thinks

439
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<v Speaker 4>he's getting a deal. You have just destroyed the benefit

440
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<v Speaker 4>of a lease. So we'll talk about that coming up.

441
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<v Speaker 4>If you have any questions, you can call as well.

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444
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446
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<v Speaker 4>insurance companies find out now three oh three seven seven

447
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448
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<v Speaker 4>choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com to

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<v Speaker 4>list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine

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<v Speaker 4>two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi, Tom Martino, you're a troubleshooter.

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<v Speaker 4>Now let's keep going here. Okay, and by the way, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>let me give you the number for water Pros three

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<v Speaker 4>oh three eight six two five five five four. If

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna get one system, I would go with the

459
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<v Speaker 4>reverse Osmosis fourteen hundred bucks drinking water, but you can

460
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<v Speaker 4>also get the softener. And then, hint, hint, I'm gonna

461
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<v Speaker 4>hit them up during the holidays for another special on

462
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<v Speaker 4>the whole shooting match. Uh okay, now, Vernon, I'll take

463
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<v Speaker 4>this call. It sounds like a quick one. You want

464
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<v Speaker 4>to give kudos. I love kudos. Where you gonna tell

465
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<v Speaker 4>me how handsome I am?

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<v Speaker 16>Go ahead, Vernon, negative on that all right?

467
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<v Speaker 11>No, we're talking about maintenance on vehicles. I got a

468
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<v Speaker 11>f one fifty that has two hundred and forty thousand, My.

469
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<v Speaker 4>Love, I can't believe all these high mileage guys doing

470
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<v Speaker 4>great stuff.

471
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<v Speaker 11>Wowka and Uh, Cody and Sean at silter Hard and

472
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<v Speaker 11>UH in their service department. They take good care of me.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good because silter Hart changed hands, but they're still

475
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<v Speaker 4>good people.

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<v Speaker 11>I'll tell you what. I got a couple of good

477
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<v Speaker 11>service guys that are great, and I've been going there

478
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<v Speaker 11>since so too.

479
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<v Speaker 14>So they're not.

480
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<v Speaker 11>I just do regular maintenance on my truck and it runs.

481
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<v Speaker 6>Like a top.

482
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<v Speaker 4>Good good good. Hey.

483
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<v Speaker 14>So the other words.

484
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<v Speaker 11>The other kudos is Tony garage doors.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, not garage doors.

486
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<v Speaker 11>He did my floor and my patio outside and it

487
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<v Speaker 11>looks outstanding. I've never met a guy as great as him.

488
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<v Speaker 4>No, he is a lot. He is so dedicated.

489
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<v Speaker 11>Oh man, he he came over, he was he was

490
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<v Speaker 11>not feeling good. He did everything that needed to be done.

491
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<v Speaker 11>And I was shocked when he did my patio.

492
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<v Speaker 14>How nice it looks.

493
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<v Speaker 11>And it's always outside, so I don't even have a

494
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<v Speaker 11>cover on.

495
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<v Speaker 4>Mark found him and used him right, and I had

496
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<v Speaker 4>already and I had already gotten someone to do my

497
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:05.759
<v Speaker 4>floors before that who wasn't on the referral list. We

498
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<v Speaker 4>didn't know anyone. I just tried to find someone. And

499
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<v Speaker 4>it's the tail of the tail of two floors. Marx

500
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<v Speaker 4>was ten times better less, it's still perfect. I've actually

501
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<v Speaker 4>had a little bubbling, a little chipping, you know what

502
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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you. It's one of the areas, unfortunately, where

503
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<v Speaker 4>anyone can get in the business. You just buy the

504
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 4>stuff and you're in the business. But not everyone deserves

505
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<v Speaker 4>to be in the business. Elite Garage Floors, by the way,

506
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<v Speaker 4>let me let me make that clear. ELITEGF dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the website. You'll never find better. You just won't.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

509
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<v Speaker 4>I can say this about certain people on my referral

510
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<v Speaker 4>list based on actual experience, Like when it comes to

511
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<v Speaker 4>concrete lam landscaping, this guy's a perfectionist pain in the ass,

512
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<v Speaker 4>perfectionist pain in the ass, perfectionist painter, Steve the painter.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. I mean, like, I love these people.

514
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<v Speaker 4>Now they're small, well they're getting big, but but they

515
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<v Speaker 4>don't want to be giant a perfectionist roofer. They are

516
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<v Speaker 4>big excel roofing. I mean people. I didn't last forty

517
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<v Speaker 4>five years by by giving out bad names. Every once

518
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<v Speaker 4>in a while, we may hit it a little wrong,

519
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.359
<v Speaker 4>we get someone who but we've never had anyone just

520
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<v Speaker 4>screw people, or never have anyone just really really bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank God. Right now, Bill's got a comment on auto leasing,

522
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<v Speaker 4>which I wanted to go over and to go home. Bill,

523
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<v Speaker 4>what did you want to say?

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<v Speaker 17>Okay, you forgot that.

525
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<v Speaker 7>You said it.

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<v Speaker 17>I didn't hear it. You forgot to tell them. See

527
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<v Speaker 17>what I did was I leased my car for three

528
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<v Speaker 17>years and then with COVID and everything, I put fifteen

529
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<v Speaker 17>hundred miles on it and I bought.

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<v Speaker 7>It at the end of the lease.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all right, Yeah, that's all right.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, so I got a brand new car almost And

533
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<v Speaker 17>I know what was You.

534
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<v Speaker 4>Know right, you bought a used car from yourself. You

535
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<v Speaker 4>did it right. And people can do that if they

536
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<v Speaker 4>like to keep cars a long time. That is not

537
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<v Speaker 4>a bad system. It really isn't. And in that case, Rodney,

538
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<v Speaker 4>in that case, we may have to call your lease guy.

539
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<v Speaker 4>But I think I asked in this if I go

540
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<v Speaker 4>over miles, but I'm going to buy it for myself.

541
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<v Speaker 4>I don't pay a penalty right to the leasing company.

542
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 4>I just know, I just pay the residual. If I'm

543
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:16.720
<v Speaker 4>willing to pay the residual, there's no downside. It has

544
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:19.359
<v Speaker 4>a little more miles. But here is the downside. You

545
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<v Speaker 4>want to know what it is if I put too

546
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:24.359
<v Speaker 4>many miles on it and I buy it from myself

547
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<v Speaker 4>for the residual. Let's say it's a forty thousand dollars residual. Technically,

548
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<v Speaker 4>if I took that forty I might be able to

549
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<v Speaker 4>find another car like mine with lower miles. Technically if

550
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<v Speaker 4>I over miled it.

551
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<v Speaker 6>Right right now. But you know the history.

552
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<v Speaker 4>That's that's the point is you know how you treated it,

553
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<v Speaker 4>and you're not going to lie to yourself like Tom,

554
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:52.400
<v Speaker 4>did you take good care of it? Yes? I did? Tom.

555
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<v Speaker 4>You know you know if you did or not. That's

556
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<v Speaker 4>that's the important thing. Now I'm going to go over

557
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<v Speaker 4>leasing coming back. We got more coming up. The trouble

558
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<v Speaker 4>for your show. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best

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<v Speaker 4>oh three seven to seven to one help You'll think

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<v Speaker 4>you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand the

565
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<v Speaker 4>real estate man dot com to list your home with

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<v Speaker 4>Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi Tom Martino here three oh three seven one three

568
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<v Speaker 4>talks seven one three eight two five hive. Now, I'm

569
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<v Speaker 4>gonna give ridiculous numbers because ridiculous numbers help bring home

570
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<v Speaker 4>a bring home the story. If if you wanted to

571
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<v Speaker 4>buy a really fancy car over two hundred grand, okay,

572
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<v Speaker 4>the monthly payment on that extraordinarily high, I mean giantly high.

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<v Speaker 4>If you put cash down, you tie up maybe two

574
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<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty grand two hundred and forty I'm talking

575
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<v Speaker 4>about like a g Wagon. And by I'm just having fun,

576
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.240
<v Speaker 4>I mean I could have run these numbers on any car.

577
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<v Speaker 4>But it does show because no matter what car you buy,

578
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<v Speaker 4>it's all going to be about the same relatively the same,

579
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<v Speaker 4>meaning the spreads. Now, if you do a going lease

580
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<v Speaker 4>payment for a g Wagon for thirty six months, at

581
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<v Speaker 4>the end of thirty six months, you will have invested

582
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<v Speaker 4>one hundred thousand, one hundred and one thousand. Now that's

583
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<v Speaker 4>at the end of three years. Now you might think

584
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<v Speaker 4>that now that, by the way, that's a lot of money. Okay,

585
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<v Speaker 4>But if you bought that, I mean a lot of

586
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<v Speaker 4>people buy them. A lot of people listening to me

587
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<v Speaker 4>buy them. Okay, Now make that cheaper. You could have

588
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<v Speaker 4>fifty thousand in a lesser car. It doesn't matter. I'm

589
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:56.279
<v Speaker 4>just doing this because it's fun. Because it's a lot

590
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:58.119
<v Speaker 4>of money and it's fun. So let's say you have

591
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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and one thousand dollars invested. At the end

592
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<v Speaker 4>of three years, you tan that back, you walk away

593
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<v Speaker 4>if you want. Okay, Now you might think, my god,

594
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<v Speaker 4>you just wasted one hundred and one time. But listen

595
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<v Speaker 4>to the idiots that buy those. Now they're putting out

596
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<v Speaker 4>two hundred and some thousand dollars. So they had for

597
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<v Speaker 4>that three years an extra an extra one hundred and

598
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<v Speaker 4>fifty grand. Not working for him, That ur one hundred

599
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<v Speaker 4>and forty. That one hundred and forty was not in

600
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<v Speaker 4>their bank or not in investments. It was not working

601
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<v Speaker 4>for them. It was sitting there doing nothing, done zero

602
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<v Speaker 4>and at the end of three years now they have

603
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<v Speaker 4>to sell that vehicle or trade it, they will never ever,

604
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<v Speaker 4>even though you think you will get as much as

605
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<v Speaker 4>the residual value, here's why you think you will, but

606
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<v Speaker 4>you won't. If you trade it, you definitely won't. If

607
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<v Speaker 4>you try to sell it, you may, but then you

608
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<v Speaker 4>have to pay. I mean, if you want to go

609
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<v Speaker 4>buy another car sales section, I'm telling you that you

610
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<v Speaker 4>will never and you'll never make up for the money

611
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<v Speaker 4>lost on the one forty. You had out for three

612
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<v Speaker 4>years doing nothing, doing zip nothing, nothing, And if you

613
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<v Speaker 4>stay within mileage, you literally if you admortise what you

614
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<v Speaker 4>could make on the one forty, even at a T

615
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<v Speaker 4>bill rate, and you figure the walking away, the no

616
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<v Speaker 4>maintenance and the three years. Yeah, you spent a lot

617
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<v Speaker 4>of money, but you had a g Wagon rank. Now

618
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<v Speaker 4>apply that to any car. You are miles ahead. Literally

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<v Speaker 4>if you can do that with any car, if you're

620
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<v Speaker 4>going to finance that, the finance charges, the finance charges

621
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<v Speaker 4>would be more, way more, and you'd be financing the

622
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<v Speaker 4>whole thing. And again you would have a substantial down

623
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<v Speaker 4>payment if you wanted to keep the payment even reasonable,

624
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<v Speaker 4>and you'd have more of a cash outlay, not only

625
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<v Speaker 4>would you have more capital outlay, but you'd have money

626
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<v Speaker 4>you couldn't recover on any level, whether it's this you know,

627
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<v Speaker 4>being fun over two hundred, or you buy a car

628
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<v Speaker 4>for seventy or eighty or sixty. If you can stay

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<v Speaker 4>within the miles and stay within the years, you are golden.

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<v Speaker 4>We got more coming up. Go with a sure thing

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>it's a Friday, be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>The good thing about a four day weekend last week

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<v Speaker 4>is that it's a short week this week, so you

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<v Speaker 4>have four and four. Yeah, so welcome, and we're here

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<v Speaker 4>to help you solve, solve problems, answer questions, take complaints.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not really a four day weekend. It's a three

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<v Speaker 4>day weekend. Three day sorry. Sorry, So anyway, we're here

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<v Speaker 4>saw solving problems for you. It's car Day today. I

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<v Speaker 4>have Kevin Colkin from Sheridan Auto tech dot com. We

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<v Speaker 4>have Jefffick Transmissions Denver dot com, which is camera transmission.

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<v Speaker 4>We have Rod Greer with jfrcars dot com. He's a

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<v Speaker 4>car dealer extraordinary. We're talking about leasing and buying and

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<v Speaker 4>all that. If you have comments, then we have Gary

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<v Speaker 4>on the line. Wants to talk about mortgages. So we

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<v Speaker 4>talk about anything about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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<v Speaker 4>But one thing I want to say, since it's car Day,

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<v Speaker 4>I I know the country says the country says, and

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<v Speaker 4>not just the country government and incentives say, but people say,

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<v Speaker 4>electric cars are good. I don't I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>it's a majority of people, but evs are getting popular

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<v Speaker 4>and EV's are considered good, they're considered well, they are

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<v Speaker 4>can I don't know anyone. Maybe some people hate them,

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<v Speaker 4>but most people see they're pretty good. I love I

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<v Speaker 4>love the do give an electric car. Here's the problem,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm just going to say it because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know why, but we are not rewarding people who buy

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<v Speaker 4>electric cars. And I'm going to tell you why. We

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<v Speaker 4>simply do not give them resale value. And I say

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<v Speaker 4>we because that's what it is. People do not. They

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<v Speaker 4>are the worst buy you can make for a new car,

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<v Speaker 4>the worst.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you're but your your savings is on the front side.

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<v Speaker 4>What's that Your.

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<v Speaker 5>Savings is on the front right by the all the

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<v Speaker 5>government stimulus and if.

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<v Speaker 4>You qualify and get them right, you're right. But you

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<v Speaker 4>really really are going to take a hit. Oh big,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't. I don't understand why though, Why

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<v Speaker 4>do they depreciate so much? If you have a Model

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<v Speaker 4>S Tesla and you drive it moderately and you love it,

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<v Speaker 4>in three years you don't have much left well, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>and you you have at least seven years left on

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<v Speaker 4>the battery, right.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they're overpriced in the bit on the on

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<v Speaker 5>the front side.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. If you pay ninety six grand for

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<v Speaker 4>a model ASS one hundred grand, what are they? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you, when you look at cars dot com,

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<v Speaker 4>you want the best deal in the world, buy a

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<v Speaker 4>used electric car. Holy crap. But they're bad deals new

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want them to be. I mean, I had

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<v Speaker 4>my eye and a couple I never pulled the trigger,

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<v Speaker 4>mostly because of my wife. She just I mean, she

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't want to be electrified.

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<v Speaker 18>But tom, look look at the deal I got on

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<v Speaker 18>my on my Corna. It's a beautiful car, same thing,

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<v Speaker 18>ten years, one hundred thousand miles. The out door price

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<v Speaker 18>before taxes and title was twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven Nobody can believe that he got. Oh, I'll show

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<v Speaker 4>you the No I believe you so, But okay, so,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't know about your resale. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how I can go down much, but it will. But

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<v Speaker 4>the model, the Tesla's are the ones taking the biggest hits.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I should qualify that the two oh Rivians too,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're.

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<v Speaker 6>All high in cars though. I think that's the.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but a lot of high in cars carry some

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<v Speaker 4>good trade and value. My God, that that g that

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<v Speaker 4>I that g wagon I had, I got as much

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<v Speaker 4>for it when I trade that I when I sold

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<v Speaker 4>it used.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's probably the exception of then the rule,

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<v Speaker 5>because the most car, most cars, that has the most fat,

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<v Speaker 5>he has the.

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<v Speaker 4>Most fat, the most appreciation. Right if you overpay. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>talk to Gary about mortgages. Go ahead, Gary, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 14>Okay?

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<v Speaker 19>I got a quick question. I don't understand. Basically, I

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<v Speaker 19>guess how mortgages work. Maybe I'm not thinking of it

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<v Speaker 19>correctly or something. I don't know the inside tracks. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 19>let's I bought a house down car Springs where I

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<v Speaker 19>live at in two thousand and eight for one hundred

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<v Speaker 19>and thirty nine thousand on paper, and I financed it

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<v Speaker 19>and with the VA, so it's covered with the VA loan.

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<v Speaker 19>It was a refinanced for once to get the interest

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<v Speaker 19>right down to like four and a half percent. Now,

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<v Speaker 19>so I've been living in the house for fifteen years

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<v Speaker 19>and it's one hundred and thirty nine thousand on paper,

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<v Speaker 19>but it's been assessed value wise, it's going up a

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<v Speaker 19>couple of times. So right now it's worth about two fifty.

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<v Speaker 19>But my question is, after having lived in the house

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<v Speaker 19>for fifteen years, an interest right now at four and

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<v Speaker 19>a half percent, the principal balance owed on it is

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<v Speaker 19>like one hundred and nine. So I've only paid out

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<v Speaker 19>thirty nine thousand in fifteen years, right, I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 19>I mean, because I understand, you know, over a period

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<v Speaker 19>of time, you know the estro is short.

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<v Speaker 10>So they I'll.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell you, I'll tell you why, Gary, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>a little difficult to understand. And I don't mean for you,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean for everyone and for me. But they're not

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<v Speaker 4>amortized like a regular loan. They right, Well, here's what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean. If you had one hundred thousand dollars loan

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<v Speaker 4>that had simple interest, you would pay that, you would

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<v Speaker 4>make a payment. And here's how to look at it.

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<v Speaker 4>If it was interest only at ten percent, one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>thousand you'd pay. You'd pay ten thousand a year in interest,

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<v Speaker 4>right right? Ten percent? Okay, and that ten thousand, So

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<v Speaker 4>if you paid ten thousand a year, your balance would

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<v Speaker 4>stay at one hundred. If you then took and made

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<v Speaker 4>principal payments every month, your principal payment would go down

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<v Speaker 4>accordingly and be subtracted from. So if you made a

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<v Speaker 4>fixed payment of a certain amount of money, your fixed

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<v Speaker 4>payment would go against the principle and interest evenly. So

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<v Speaker 4>you'd pay that ten thousand, let's just call it, like

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<v Speaker 4>eight hundred bucks a month would go toward interest. None

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<v Speaker 4>of that would come off your principle, but everything above

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<v Speaker 4>that would be off your principle. And then each then

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<v Speaker 4>each month your interest would be less, okay, and you

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<v Speaker 4>would pay it off quickly and you wouldn't have that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's simple interest on a mortgage. On a mortgage, you

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<v Speaker 4>pay interest first, they amortize it, so the investor gets

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<v Speaker 4>interest first, and then you start. So over a thirty

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<v Speaker 4>year loan, roughly half of it is mostly interest and

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<v Speaker 4>the other hands is mostly principal. It's done. It's done

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<v Speaker 4>to attract mortgage bonds and interests and investors. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't wait, you don't get little. If they had to wait,

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<v Speaker 4>interests would be higher. For example, if I was going

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<v Speaker 4>to loan out one hundred grand and have it amortized

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<v Speaker 4>over thirty years, I wouldn't do it for thirty for

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<v Speaker 4>dividing my interest by that many months, I wouldn't do it,

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<v Speaker 4>No one would do it. But if you get a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of your interest upfront, or even points upfront, that's

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<v Speaker 4>a whole different topic. That's that's a hit you get

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<v Speaker 4>and you get to keep it. Like for example, if

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<v Speaker 4>I gave you one hundred thousand dollars loan, I want

784
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<v Speaker 4>two points, you literally would pay two percent to me

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<v Speaker 4>two grand just for me doing it, and I, you know,

786
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<v Speaker 4>I'll just and then I get to keep that, plus

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<v Speaker 4>I get my interest. So the point is this, there's

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<v Speaker 4>an amortization schedule, and the only way to understand it

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<v Speaker 4>is to look at that schedule, and you'll see in

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<v Speaker 4>the beginning you're paying pennies on the principle, and it

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<v Speaker 4>gets more and more and more and more and more. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what it is, right, and then at the go ahead, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean.

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<v Speaker 19>That's kind of what that's kind of the point of

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<v Speaker 19>my question is. You know, it's been there for fifteen

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<v Speaker 19>years and it doesn't seem like I've paid off very much.

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<v Speaker 19>But it's like, so now as I've kind oft made

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<v Speaker 19>that midway mark, I should start seeing more start coming

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<v Speaker 19>off the principal.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you unless you refly when you refi, you don't

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<v Speaker 4>keep the same term, you go back to thirty Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's the problem. To see a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>when they refi, they ReClock the loan. That's the bad

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<v Speaker 4>way to do it. The right way to do it

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<v Speaker 4>would be to refight to get the lower interest and

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<v Speaker 4>keep the term where it is. That's the but that's

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<v Speaker 4>what people don't do, and a lot of places won't

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<v Speaker 4>do it. So here's another thing to keep in mind.

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<v Speaker 4>If you took a thirty year amortization schedule, you got

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<v Speaker 4>to visualize this and look at each payment as a line.

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<v Speaker 4>One through twelve is the first year, right, and then

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<v Speaker 4>thirteen through twenty four the second year. Okay, look at

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<v Speaker 4>each payment as a line. You'll see on the first

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<v Speaker 4>line there's a certain amount of interest and a certain

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<v Speaker 4>amount of principle. Here is what you can do, but

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<v Speaker 4>you must do it with a schedule. You take the

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<v Speaker 4>line you're on and you make that payment. Then you

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<v Speaker 4>go to the second line and make that principal payment

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<v Speaker 4>only right now, See when you do that, the next

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<v Speaker 4>payment you make will be the line after that. You

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<v Speaker 4>have skipped that entire line by just paying that little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of principle. If you do that every single month,

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<v Speaker 4>eventually you'll be paying a lot of principle. But it'll

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<v Speaker 4>take a while. But in your fifteen years, your thirty

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<v Speaker 4>year loan would have been paid off.

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<v Speaker 19>Right, Yeah, I want to. I mean I made my

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<v Speaker 19>payment religiously every month and on that lead.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, people don't have to have a

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen year loan to do it. You can have a

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<v Speaker 4>thirty year loan and you can self amortize it to thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>You just go to the next line of principle. The

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<v Speaker 4>next line of principle, you market principle. They must take

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<v Speaker 4>it off. Do not make double payments. People make the

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<v Speaker 4>mistake of making double payments. You don't have to pay

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<v Speaker 4>interest in advance, simply pay principle.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, if you were making an additional payment, it should

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<v Speaker 19>be strictly principal and.

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<v Speaker 14>Not to go to the right.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's no reason if you're going to stay in

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<v Speaker 4>the house to do anything more than the principle on

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<v Speaker 4>the next line. In the beginning, people get bold because

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<v Speaker 4>they see how small the principle is. A I want

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<v Speaker 4>to do more? Who you can if you on, I guess,

844
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:22.760
<v Speaker 4>But then it gets to be uh, then you get

845
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<v Speaker 4>higher up on the principal scale and it gets your

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00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.079
<v Speaker 4>payment climbs quickly. It's however you want to do it,

847
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:32.280
<v Speaker 4>But you can do that on your own, and I

848
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:35.320
<v Speaker 4>recommend that people do it whenever they can, whenever they're flush,

849
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.079
<v Speaker 4>they should do it and reduce principle. But you go

850
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:42.679
<v Speaker 4>directly to the principle and you'll love it your your loan.

851
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:46.679
<v Speaker 4>It may not affect the payment you're making on interest,

852
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:49.079
<v Speaker 4>like you're still going to have the same level payment,

853
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:52.719
<v Speaker 4>but it affects the term of how long you make

854
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:53.639
<v Speaker 4>that level payment.

855
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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, because I mean, I bought my house to job

856
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.599
<v Speaker 19>nate and I'm I'm not complaining because I have a

857
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:02.880
<v Speaker 19>house right and I work in an apartment complex and

858
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:05.880
<v Speaker 19>Collin Springs and what they're ready pharmis for is more

859
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:07.119
<v Speaker 19>than my mortgage payment.

860
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:07.679
<v Speaker 10>For a bed o.

861
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<v Speaker 4>It's terrible. It's terrible those who took advantage of low

862
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:14.360
<v Speaker 4>interest rates and own they're golden. We have more coming

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<v Speaker 4>right up. I'm going to talk about a question on

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<v Speaker 4>insurance homeowners insurance and also the no call list. Go

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<v Speaker 4>with a sure thing Denver's Best Roofer Excel roofing dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for

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868
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<v Speaker 4>companies find out now three oh three seven to seven

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<v Speaker 4>you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com

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<v Speaker 4>to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, you're

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<v Speaker 4>a troubleshooter at three oh three seven one three talk

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<v Speaker 4>three oh three seven one three eight two five five.

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00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:14.800
<v Speaker 4>Dan McKenzie is an estate planning attorney that I hope

877
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:18.559
<v Speaker 4>you never need, but everyone needs it, you know. I mean,

878
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:21.079
<v Speaker 4>I hope you don't need a mine tomorrow, but get

879
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:24.679
<v Speaker 4>an estate plan mackenzie Law. He's on the referral list

880
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:28.159
<v Speaker 4>at referral list dot com. He's a good guy and

881
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:33.079
<v Speaker 4>that's uh eight three three Coe plans. And somebody asked

882
00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:37.280
<v Speaker 4>me about Excel roofing. They said, Tom, is it true? Now?

883
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:40.280
<v Speaker 4>They want to know this, is it true that I

884
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.639
<v Speaker 4>don't have to sign to have somebody look at my roof?

885
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.800
<v Speaker 4>Because I say, Excel doesn't make you sign anything they

886
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:52.360
<v Speaker 4>they claim. This person claimed from another roofer that it's

887
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.400
<v Speaker 4>for liability that if you don't sign something and they

888
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.239
<v Speaker 4>get hurt, then you have to pay for it as

889
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.559
<v Speaker 4>a post and your homeowner's insurance as opposed to their

890
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:06.400
<v Speaker 4>workers comp because you're not hiring them. That is the

891
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:09.760
<v Speaker 4>biggest crock of crap I have ever heard. If a

892
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:12.599
<v Speaker 4>roofer comes to your house to look at your roof

893
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:18.199
<v Speaker 4>to see what you need, you don't have to sign anything.

894
00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:21.400
<v Speaker 4>Their workers comp would still cover them if they're on

895
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:25.320
<v Speaker 4>the job. They don't have to be being paid to

896
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:28.079
<v Speaker 4>do a roof to be on the job, so they're

897
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.400
<v Speaker 4>on the job for the roofing company, not for you.

898
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:33.880
<v Speaker 4>And so don't ever sign anything at the door. And

899
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:37.480
<v Speaker 4>Excel will never make you and they'll never take your

900
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:40.320
<v Speaker 4>first insurance check or your second insurance check or your third.

901
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:44.400
<v Speaker 4>They just pay you pay when you're done. E x

902
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.360
<v Speaker 4>C LXL roof dot com. I want to make that

903
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.639
<v Speaker 4>clear because I'm pretty pissed at these people that make

904
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:52.599
<v Speaker 4>people sign. So let's talk about insurance, Brent. What's going

905
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.159
<v Speaker 4>on with you and your homeowner's insurance? How can we

906
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:55.519
<v Speaker 4>help you?

907
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:56.840
<v Speaker 16>Hi?

908
00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:58.280
<v Speaker 14>Hey for taking me?

909
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:03.519
<v Speaker 20>Yes, sir, I'm so last year in June on the

910
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:07.440
<v Speaker 20>twenty third, when the tornado went through, I was where

911
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.599
<v Speaker 20>it almost kind of started. It didn't completely form, but

912
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:14.480
<v Speaker 20>it was strong enough winds and things to do a

913
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:15.960
<v Speaker 20>fair amount of damage to my house.

914
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:18.960
<v Speaker 4>So it was wind damaged, wind damage. When was this

915
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:22.800
<v Speaker 4>wind damage? And hell wind inhale.

916
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 20>The June twenty second, Yeah, twenty okay, got it?

917
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:27.599
<v Speaker 4>Twenty got it.

918
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:33.920
<v Speaker 20>And so I'm dealing with the siding part. I think, well,

919
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:38.639
<v Speaker 20>I'm kind of got that. But basically my fence was

920
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:46.079
<v Speaker 20>damaged and it it broke, the broke off from the

921
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:48.639
<v Speaker 20>bottom the So you're.

922
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:50.679
<v Speaker 4>Siding your fence. What else? Did you have a roof

923
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:51.400
<v Speaker 4>problem too?

924
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:53.599
<v Speaker 14>Yes, they fixed the roof already.

925
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:56.480
<v Speaker 20>Got that's a whole nother actually dealing.

926
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:59.880
<v Speaker 4>Roof, siding, and fence. By the way, you could have had,

927
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:03.679
<v Speaker 4>uh Genesis do all three of those. Okay, So anyway,

928
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:07.159
<v Speaker 4>so ask your question then about your fans.

929
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:13.800
<v Speaker 20>So they've kind of preapproved that. Now, the first contractor

930
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:17.679
<v Speaker 20>came out didn't do a great proper job of the

931
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:20.199
<v Speaker 20>evaluation of things. This is part of what I've been

932
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:23.159
<v Speaker 20>battling with the insurance company. And I got a new

933
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:26.800
<v Speaker 20>contractor and he's done a lot of help. But they

934
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:32.840
<v Speaker 20>agreed to have several posts replaced at the beginning. But

935
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:36.079
<v Speaker 20>when the new contractor came out and said, oh no,

936
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:39.199
<v Speaker 20>these are all these are like broken, broken free. We

937
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:42.559
<v Speaker 20>need to replace, you know, a lot more square footage.

938
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.159
<v Speaker 20>So then we sent it back to the insurance company.

939
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:49.679
<v Speaker 20>And now they're saying, oh, well, we looked at the

940
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.159
<v Speaker 20>pictures and they we were deeming.

941
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:52.719
<v Speaker 14>That this is.

942
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:56.519
<v Speaker 20>Oh guy, what's the what's the wear and tear?

943
00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:57.039
<v Speaker 15>Yeah?

944
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<v Speaker 20>And I'm like, and I talked to one of the

945
00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:02.960
<v Speaker 20>managers over at liber and I said, Hey, how is

946
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:06.119
<v Speaker 20>this possibly wear and tear? When the when the wind

947
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:10.280
<v Speaker 20>was strong enough to completely break it free from the

948
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:11.920
<v Speaker 20>pence post in the ground.

949
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:17.360
<v Speaker 4>Well, here's what they're saying. If your fence was deteriorated,

950
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:21.159
<v Speaker 4>falling apart and the wind just did it in, that's

951
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:21.960
<v Speaker 4>what they're saying.

952
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:23.719
<v Speaker 11>I do it wasn't.

953
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:25.800
<v Speaker 20>That's what I was trying to tell. I like, I

954
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:28.400
<v Speaker 20>can climb on the fence, I could wiggle or not.

955
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:30.840
<v Speaker 20>I try to wiggle the fence, but I couldn't wiggle it.

956
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:32.519
<v Speaker 20>The thing was standing. There's nothing.

957
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:35.760
<v Speaker 4>So they're claiming part they're claiming part of your damage

958
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:37.960
<v Speaker 4>is wearing tear. Is that correct?

959
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:40.800
<v Speaker 20>Yes, Yes, that's what I'm trying to figure out.

960
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:43.239
<v Speaker 21>I'm trying to figure out their little to say of

961
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:48.000
<v Speaker 21>skin so well, I don't like insurance, so they reduced

962
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:49.079
<v Speaker 21>the claim by how much?

963
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 4>Tell me how much is at stake here?

964
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<v Speaker 20>Well, the whole fence, I would say is probably like

965
00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:59.039
<v Speaker 20>a six thousand dollars job.

966
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:01.800
<v Speaker 4>To and they're saying they're not going to pay six grand.

967
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:05.320
<v Speaker 21>They're saying they're not nothing. How much you're not going

968
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:07.920
<v Speaker 21>to cover They're not covering any part of it.

969
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:11.559
<v Speaker 20>No, well that's what they that's what she just told me.

970
00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:15.719
<v Speaker 20>But they actually preapproved that they were going to take

971
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.000
<v Speaker 20>some posts. But now they're backtracking saying they're not going

972
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:19.159
<v Speaker 20>to cover any Now I'm.

973
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.679
<v Speaker 4>Going to tell you what to do. All right, you're

974
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.880
<v Speaker 4>going to say this. If you don't say this, because

975
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:27.960
<v Speaker 4>this is what I would say, I don't think you'll win,

976
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:30.800
<v Speaker 4>but this is what you do first, then call us back.

977
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:35.840
<v Speaker 4>You're going to say is this a recorded line? If

978
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:39.639
<v Speaker 4>they say no, say well I hope it is. If

979
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:43.840
<v Speaker 4>it's not a recorded line, please take notes. I have

980
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:48.679
<v Speaker 4>a policy with you and I have an expert, two experts,

981
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:53.000
<v Speaker 4>or however many tell me my fence has been destroyed

982
00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:57.320
<v Speaker 4>by the hail. You guys did not have an expert

983
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:02.519
<v Speaker 4>come out, but evaluated that claim by photos, and you

984
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:07.559
<v Speaker 4>claim it's normal wear and tear in Colorado. If I

985
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:11.760
<v Speaker 4>take you to court for bad faith for not paying

986
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:16.760
<v Speaker 4>a legitimate estimate and claim, I will get treble damages.

987
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:21.239
<v Speaker 4>I am putting you on notice that if you do

988
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:23.400
<v Speaker 4>not have someone come out here and meet with my

989
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:28.480
<v Speaker 4>fence contractor and give me a good reason, I will

990
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:30.239
<v Speaker 4>be suing for treble damages.

991
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:35.880
<v Speaker 20>You got it treble, trouble or trouble.

992
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:39.119
<v Speaker 4>It's triple really, but they call it treble in the law.

993
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:41.519
<v Speaker 4>This she'll know what you mean. He'll know what you mean.

994
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:46.159
<v Speaker 4>Please do that. You remember you're a policy holder. You

995
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:51.480
<v Speaker 4>had experts, You had experts on site determine this. They

996
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.599
<v Speaker 4>determine by photos alone. You do not need it and

997
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:58.199
<v Speaker 4>as normal wear in tear in Colorado, you're entitled to

998
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:00.559
<v Speaker 4>sue for bad faith if they ref use to pay

999
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:03.639
<v Speaker 4>a legitimate claim and estimate, and you are putting them

1000
00:55:03.639 --> 00:55:06.320
<v Speaker 4>on notice that if they don't have someone there to

1001
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:09.400
<v Speaker 4>meet with your people and to determine it for real,

1002
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:13.079
<v Speaker 4>you believe the decision is arbitrary and you're going to

1003
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:16.119
<v Speaker 4>sue for trouble, damages for bad faith. Just say that,

1004
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:18.360
<v Speaker 4>please and call me back because they're going to say, okay,

1005
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:20.000
<v Speaker 4>we're going to pay Okay.

1006
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:21.679
<v Speaker 14>Now, one last thing I do.

1007
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:25.639
<v Speaker 20>I do know this from what I've understood, is she

1008
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:27.960
<v Speaker 20>did explain to me the meaning the manager of liberty

1009
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:33.119
<v Speaker 20>that it also depends where the fence lines up on

1010
00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:37.199
<v Speaker 20>the actual property itself, whether they're going to pay.

1011
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:38.039
<v Speaker 15>Half or not.

1012
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:41.480
<v Speaker 4>Okay, now that's true, and that let me tell you why.

1013
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:46.199
<v Speaker 4>Because if it's your fence, they pay for it all.

1014
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:48.639
<v Speaker 4>If it's your neighbor's fence, they pay for none of it.

1015
00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:51.760
<v Speaker 4>If it's a split fence where people pay half in half,

1016
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:56.280
<v Speaker 4>they're going to pay your half. That's you got to

1017
00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:57.119
<v Speaker 4>figure that one out.

1018
00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:00.719
<v Speaker 20>Yeah, yeah, I kind of figured so was one of

1019
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:03.159
<v Speaker 20>the things I was going to do. I just wouldn't

1020
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:04.559
<v Speaker 20>want to invest.

1021
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:07.280
<v Speaker 4>But listen, your eight jo A would would dictate that

1022
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:09.840
<v Speaker 4>with a joint fence agreement or if it's right on

1023
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.800
<v Speaker 4>the line, you usually split it. But if it's if

1024
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:15.360
<v Speaker 4>it's set back into your property, it's yours. If it's

1025
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:18.480
<v Speaker 4>set back onto theirs, it's theirs, call us back when

1026
00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:22.000
<v Speaker 4>you find out, and wait till you call them too.

1027
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:24.400
<v Speaker 4>Three oh three seven one three eight two five five

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Scott questions on a no call list? Mike, what

1029
00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:27.440
<v Speaker 4>is your question?

1030
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:31.679
<v Speaker 22>Hey, Tom, thanks for taking my call. I remember you

1031
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:35.559
<v Speaker 22>had a caller maybe in last year, talked about using

1032
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:42.440
<v Speaker 22>the statutes to sue these UH selectors call you right,

1033
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:45.880
<v Speaker 22>what was the procedure for that? And then two now

1034
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:49.679
<v Speaker 22>they have these third parties calling. How do you approach

1035
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:53.159
<v Speaker 22>getting at the instigator of the call rather than the

1036
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:53.920
<v Speaker 22>third party.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have to the third party is the one.

1038
00:56:55.760 --> 00:57:01.239
<v Speaker 14>Violating, Okay, but they're or something.

1039
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:04.199
<v Speaker 4>Well that's true, that and that's true. So then you

1040
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:06.960
<v Speaker 4>would go to the company. Here's what this person did

1041
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:10.760
<v Speaker 4>that called us. They gather enough information, even if they

1042
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:14.079
<v Speaker 4>have to become a lead, to find out who's calling them,

1043
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:16.280
<v Speaker 4>and then they prove they're on the no call list.

1044
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:18.679
<v Speaker 4>They put in a complaint with a state, and then

1045
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:22.039
<v Speaker 4>I believe there's monetary damages awarded. So you sue them

1046
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:25.719
<v Speaker 4>in small claims court for the violation. It's that simple,

1047
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:29.519
<v Speaker 4>but you have to get enough information. You can't. I mean, obviously,

1048
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:32.039
<v Speaker 4>if they don't give it, if they're COI. If they're so,

1049
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<v Speaker 4>three all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino here three all three seven one three talk

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<v Speaker 4>seven one three eight two five five Suzanne, what's going

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<v Speaker 4>on with the nursing home? Suzanne? What's happening? Suzanne? What's

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<v Speaker 4>going on?

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<v Speaker 23>Hi? Yes, Hi, thank you for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 4>How can we help you?

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<v Speaker 23>Well, okay, here's my problem, Well, not my problem. Well

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<v Speaker 23>it's been delt on me. If you will, what is it?

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<v Speaker 23>But okay? Twenty fourteen, I was crossing the street at

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<v Speaker 23>the crosswalk with my boyfriend at the time, and we

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<v Speaker 23>got hit by a drunk I was speeding with no insurance.

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<v Speaker 23>That's what the hospital told me when I woke up

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<v Speaker 23>from my medical induced coma. My god, I've been at

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<v Speaker 23>different nursing homes through the years.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, you did you ever let me let me

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<v Speaker 4>ask you something, Syne back in twenty fourteen when this

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00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:21.239
<v Speaker 4>happened to you and afterwards, did you ever sue or

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<v Speaker 4>get money from this other driver's insurance or from him

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<v Speaker 4>or from anyone.

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<v Speaker 23>I did hire an attorney and he told me I

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<v Speaker 23>got X amount of dollars, which with a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 23>And I went to his office and I didn't even

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<v Speaker 23>have a checking account at that time, so I only

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<v Speaker 23>took one thousand dollars in one I called him back

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<v Speaker 23>to make another withdraw once I got a checking account.

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<v Speaker 23>He said, you took it all.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, and Suzanne, this is serious. This was

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<v Speaker 4>back in twenty fourteen or two thousand fifteen when you

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<v Speaker 4>actually got the.

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<v Speaker 23>Settlement fourteen when I got here.

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<v Speaker 4>But when did you get the settlement in twenty fourteen

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<v Speaker 4>or fifteen or sixteen?

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<v Speaker 23>When I don't know, probably at least a year or

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<v Speaker 23>two later.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. The problem is we have a statute of limitations,

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01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:18.800
<v Speaker 4>meaning it might be difficult to go back after the attorney.

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<v Speaker 4>Who was the attorney back then.

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<v Speaker 23>Todd bovoo?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he still around?

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<v Speaker 23>I believe so, but I don't even have access to.

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<v Speaker 4>It, because you should ask for your.

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<v Speaker 23>Complete phone nowadays.

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<v Speaker 4>You should ask do you know what the final settlement was?

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<v Speaker 23>I mean, come on, it was like fifty some thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>And you got one thousand dollars of it.

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<v Speaker 23>Yeah, and he told me that he gave it all

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<v Speaker 23>to me, and I told him, I said, well, then

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<v Speaker 23>I don't remember what nursing?

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<v Speaker 4>What is his name? Todd?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 4>How do you spell his last fall?

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<v Speaker 2>B o v oh?

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<v Speaker 14>I believe And okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to get our personal injury expert on to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about this. I want to ask him a question

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01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:12.760
<v Speaker 4>about it. Hold on, all right, I just want to

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01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:15.559
<v Speaker 4>find out. I think we're going to have a problem

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<v Speaker 4>with the statute of limitations. Uh, can you are you

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<v Speaker 4>looking for him, Kevin? I'm not. Do you see him anywhere?

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<v Speaker 4>Personal injury attorney b o v oh, Todd? Do you

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<v Speaker 4>see him? Is he still around?

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<v Speaker 6>Bovo law, Elsie Bovo law.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I want to talk to John Fuller just in

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<v Speaker 4>general about p I personal injury after this many years,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, she should get a full accounting now. It

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<v Speaker 4>is possible because it sounds like she had a close

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<v Speaker 4>head injury. I mean, she was in a coleman all that.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be she's not remembering. I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>saying I'm not accusing her of that, but it could be. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>Deputy bow what's going on, Deputy bow? Hey?

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<v Speaker 16>I went out to Ron's apartment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, here, let me explain this. Let me explain this.

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<v Speaker 4>Ron called and said he has a leak from his

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<v Speaker 4>ceiling and he said it's coming from his AC unit.

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<v Speaker 4>They replaced the AC unit, but he still has it

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<v Speaker 4>coming in. Then he said the only way he was

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<v Speaker 4>able to stop the water was turning off his water heater,

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<v Speaker 4>which I had no idea what he was talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Later on, people told me that apartment houses sometimes have

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<v Speaker 4>water cooled and water heated water based systems, and it

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<v Speaker 4>could be his water heater sharing some of that with

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<v Speaker 4>the unit in his place, the air mover, and that

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<v Speaker 4>it could be moving over a water coil, and that

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<v Speaker 4>could be happening, but we had no idea and all

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<v Speaker 4>we know is we had to put eyeballs on it.

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<v Speaker 4>You were in the business, in the HVAC business, What

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<v Speaker 4>did you find?

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<v Speaker 16>So I went out there and actually when he called,

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<v Speaker 16>they were actually the apartment complex who was replacing the coil.

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<v Speaker 16>During the call, he was at work. So by the

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<v Speaker 16>time I got out there, like at seven o'clock at night,

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<v Speaker 16>they did the work.

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<v Speaker 7>But he has a very simple system.

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<v Speaker 16>He has a water heater, okay. And the water heater

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01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:15.639
<v Speaker 16>does double duty. It provides the domestic water for shower

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<v Speaker 16>shink and it also heats the apartment.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 16>The water heat has a scoil up in the attic.

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<v Speaker 16>So it was the water from the water heater that

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<v Speaker 16>was causing the flooding, okay. So, and it was when

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<v Speaker 16>the when it developed the leak, it was like forty

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<v Speaker 16>pounds pressure. There was significant amount of water got it.

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<v Speaker 22>So but what the bottom.

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<v Speaker 7>Line is there?

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<v Speaker 16>The story is that the apartment complex is charging him

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<v Speaker 16>fifteen hundred dollars for the repair. They said it's his responsibility.

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<v Speaker 16>And I called the property manager this morning twice left

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<v Speaker 16>the message that's certainly not his responsibility. Because they said

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<v Speaker 16>he caused the leak, but it's from the water. It's

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<v Speaker 16>the hot water system, and he had if this thing's

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<v Speaker 16>up in the attic, he had he had, no, He

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<v Speaker 16>has no cause for this.

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<v Speaker 4>How could he have caused a hole in the freaking coil.

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<v Speaker 16>He's they're claiming that he was running an air conditioner

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<v Speaker 16>at the same time, which just didn't make any sense

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<v Speaker 16>to me.

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<v Speaker 7>There is an air conditioning.

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<v Speaker 19>Coil up there.

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<v Speaker 16>It runs off a free on from a condensing unit

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<v Speaker 16>that has nothing to do with this leak. It was

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<v Speaker 16>from the hot water heater that heats the apartment.

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<v Speaker 4>So I put a so even even in the summer,

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<v Speaker 4>when you're not using the heat, that water is still

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<v Speaker 4>circulating through that coil.

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<v Speaker 16>Yes, it circulates through the coil and through the domestic system.

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<v Speaker 7>There's two.

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<v Speaker 4>Got it.

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<v Speaker 16>The good thing is they did repair it and he

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<v Speaker 16>doesn't have any more leaks.

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<v Speaker 4>Good, that's good news. Well, we really have to help

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<v Speaker 4>him with this. They're charging him for a cleanup and damages.

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<v Speaker 4>That's b man.

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<v Speaker 16>I already put in two goods and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 16>explain it to him that it's, yeah, his fault.

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<v Speaker 4>two zero sixteen twenty two. Tom Martina Here, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine nine six nine three h three nine

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<v Speaker 4>ninety six nine thousand. Get an insurance check and make

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<v Speaker 4>sure you're not paying too much too little. If you

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<v Speaker 4>have a great deal, they'll tell you they're honest people. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>Gary wants some advice on his dad's Oh no, I

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<v Speaker 4>want to go to John Fuller hold on real quick.

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<v Speaker 4>I got John Fuller before the end of the hour. Here,

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<v Speaker 4>John Fuller, Attorney a law I want to ask you

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<v Speaker 4>something if someone had she's not on the line right now.

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<v Speaker 4>But if she had a settlement back in twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>or sixteen and she only got one thousand dollars, it

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<v Speaker 4>was a fifty thousand dollars settlement. She had a closed

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<v Speaker 4>head injury. Now could be she's mistaken, but she was

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<v Speaker 4>in a koma closed head injury. She says she could

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<v Speaker 4>really use the money right now, and the attorney's not

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<v Speaker 4>answering her. Can she go back that far and demand

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<v Speaker 4>an accounting or is it too late?

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<v Speaker 24>Well, I think she can demand an accounting. I think

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<v Speaker 24>most any attorney would. Would you go back into their

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<v Speaker 24>closed files and pull up the distribution sheet to show

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<v Speaker 24>her where them money went. As I understood it from

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<v Speaker 24>from Kelly that there was Medicare and Medicaid involved. And

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<v Speaker 24>so sometimes we have you know, callers that are in

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<v Speaker 24>marketing facilities and stuff like that. They're also on disability

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<v Speaker 24>and there are really strict rules about how much money

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<v Speaker 24>these people can have to their names and still qualify

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<v Speaker 24>for benefits. And so in many cases with you know,

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<v Speaker 24>with special clients out like that, the money ends up

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<v Speaker 24>being placed into special needs trusts and other vehicles that

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<v Speaker 24>protect the money and preserve it for future use. But

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<v Speaker 24>don't you know, invalidate their entitlement to those benefit programs. Oh,

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<v Speaker 24>it could be any number of those, you know, type

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<v Speaker 24>of scenarios. I just don't know enough about this car

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<v Speaker 24>and urcades.

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<v Speaker 4>But that that sheds a lot of light. You're right,

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<v Speaker 4>it could it could be. It could be. Maybe even

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<v Speaker 4>they could offset some of that, couldn't they by reimbursement

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<v Speaker 4>or not?

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<v Speaker 24>Well, you certainly they would have had to pay back

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<v Speaker 24>any outstanding subrogation that was you know, that was spent

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<v Speaker 24>on her behalf, right, like medical bills and stuff. But

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<v Speaker 24>that I mean that would happen in any settlement, but

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<v Speaker 24>there would always be some left over. But some of

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<v Speaker 24>these programs, like Medicaid for an example, if you get

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<v Speaker 24>more than two thousand dollars in a month, you can

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<v Speaker 24>lose your Medicaid benefits.

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<v Speaker 20>And so we need a client.

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<v Speaker 24>That needs those benefits. You have to protect that money

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<v Speaker 24>and place it into certain trust vehicles that will you know,

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<v Speaker 24>that will preserve the money and only allow it to

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<v Speaker 24>be used in small portions for special needs, but not

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<v Speaker 24>to land lump some in their bank account and result

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<v Speaker 24>in you know, essentially doing more harm than good by

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<v Speaker 24>by invalidating the benefits that they need so much. Very

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<v Speaker 24>complicated stuff, but we run into it all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, well, thank you you shed some light on that.

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<v Speaker 4>John Fuller. Always demand to go to if your looking

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<v Speaker 4>for information on your personal injury, what to do? Where

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<v Speaker 4>to go the collectibility what it's worth? Personal injuryco dot

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<v Speaker 4>com three oh three five nine seven forty five hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>Now Gary's turn again. Okay, Gary, sorry, but what is

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<v Speaker 4>your question? Gary?

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<v Speaker 14>Hey, my father died May first.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry to hear that. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 14>And he left my niece as the personal representaity okay,

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<v Speaker 14>And I don't know how much the estates were, and

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<v Speaker 14>I don't know. I understand that if it's not worth

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<v Speaker 14>eighty thousand dollars, they don't have to go through pray.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it depends if there's real estate or anything that

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<v Speaker 4>has to be it's it's if there's no real estate.

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<v Speaker 4>Was there any real estate?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, he needed the house to my nephew.

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<v Speaker 4>Before he died on dead Yeah, on death you mean

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<v Speaker 4>with a beneficiary deed?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, before he before he died, he neated it through

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<v Speaker 14>my nephew.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 14>Fun death if needed.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, hold on and we'll come right back to you

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<v Speaker 3>Come Max is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 4>No Tom Martino, Hey Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Three oh three seven one three talk three all three

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<v Speaker 4>seven one three eight two five five or three oh

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<v Speaker 4>three Martino. You can call twenty four seven three oh

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<v Speaker 4>three six two seven eight four sixty six. If you

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<v Speaker 4>leave a message, we will get back to you. Gary

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<v Speaker 4>needs some advice. Gary said that his father died in

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<v Speaker 4>May May. First, his niece is the personal representative, and he,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, is trying to find out about the estate. So, Gary,

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<v Speaker 4>the house was deeded on death to your who nephew nephew,

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<v Speaker 4>and you knew that was gonna happen, right?

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<v Speaker 14>Uh no, No, but I'm yeah, No, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 14>that was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Was there a reason you were left out?

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<v Speaker 14>Uh? You know I got three brothers, Well, I got

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<v Speaker 14>uh two brothers that are alive, and uh, my brothers

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<v Speaker 14>other kids are his representatives. So there was four beneficiaries

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<v Speaker 14>and uh no, none of us knew that was going

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<v Speaker 14>to go down like that, and we don't know why.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, so tell me what is your question? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>what is your question today?

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<v Speaker 14>I want to know my legal rights because I don't

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<v Speaker 14>think things are going uh according to law as far

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<v Speaker 14>as uh, she's the personal representative and according to the will, uh,

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<v Speaker 14>the house was deeded to her brother, which is my nephew.

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<v Speaker 14>And then uh uh the the remaining uh content of

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<v Speaker 14>the house and is good, We're supposed to be split

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<v Speaker 14>among the four beneficiaries, which is me and my three brothers.

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<v Speaker 4>What I don't understand is Okay, you and your brothers,

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<v Speaker 4>who are his actual sons, got hardly anything, and the

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<v Speaker 4>nephew got the house. What did the personal representative get.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I think she was on the bank account. And

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<v Speaker 14>how much did she get Well, we don't know. We

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<v Speaker 14>can't get an accounting of anything as far as the

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<v Speaker 14>estate goes. And I want to know how to proceed

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<v Speaker 14>to get.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, good idea. I'll tell you what I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>ask our state attorney Kaschina. Let's ask Dan McKenzie or

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<v Speaker 4>one of the other fellows at Kieling Park. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 4>we'll ask somebody. You hold on, we'll get you some

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<v Speaker 4>advice on how to proceed. Three oh three seven, one,

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<v Speaker 4>three eight, two five five. What's going on, Raina? With

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<v Speaker 4>with the sorry with the uh Mercedes dealer? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 25>Hey, Tom, it's Raina. Thanks so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 25>I have this client who is dying. He's on his

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<v Speaker 25>deathbed and he wanted to buy a Mercedes. He's a teacher,

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<v Speaker 25>former military, want to buy a Mercedes. Go across the

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<v Speaker 25>country and go look at the ocean one last time. Oh, Frank, Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 25>I know that this is after.

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<v Speaker 10>It is and this is after his wife's passed.

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<v Speaker 25>And he's telling me he has almost no money at

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<v Speaker 25>this point, right, he's on fixed income, and they spent

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<v Speaker 25>all of their savings on cancer care. And what's really

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<v Speaker 25>sad about it is he she died shortly after.

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<v Speaker 10>The cancer care.

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<v Speaker 25>They basically took their entire life savings, and he said

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<v Speaker 25>it was worth every penny of it, even if she

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<v Speaker 25>only lived for a little bit after that. So he

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<v Speaker 25>is just salt of the earth kind of guy. He

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<v Speaker 25>goes to Mercedes Benz and he tells them he wants

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<v Speaker 25>to buy a Mercedes. I say great. He says, I

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<v Speaker 25>have this Toyota Avalon that I'm fully paid on. They say, great,

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<v Speaker 25>we're going to give you twenty thousand dollars for it.

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<v Speaker 25>You come in with five thousand dollars down payment and

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<v Speaker 25>will put you in a forty eight thousand dollars Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 25>And therefore your you know, your monthly payments aren't really

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<v Speaker 25>going to be that high, right because you're only really

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<v Speaker 25>putting a lean about twenty thousand. And he says, great,

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<v Speaker 25>that worked out. I can pay three hundred or seven months.

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<v Speaker 10>So he buys the rest.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what is the prognosis on when he was going

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<v Speaker 4>to die.

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<v Speaker 10>He tells me.

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<v Speaker 25>He's dead man walking. This is the post that happened,

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<v Speaker 25>and he has he's so proud of himself.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, you know, how long ago? How long ago

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<v Speaker 4>did he do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 25>I would say that he's been living the sale vehicle?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when did he buy it?

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<v Speaker 25>Gave me just a second and I can get that

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<v Speaker 25>for you.

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<v Speaker 17>I mean, this is just a.

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<v Speaker 8>Couple of months ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's all I need to know. It was this year?

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<v Speaker 4>Is this when is he supposed when? I mean when

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<v Speaker 4>is he supposed to die? Seriously, I mean, is is

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<v Speaker 4>he going to die? Or is this just a guy

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<v Speaker 4>who's saying he's dying?

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<v Speaker 25>No, No, this is this is for real. So he's

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<v Speaker 25>been kind of on his depit for a while, but

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<v Speaker 25>he's still kroud of himself. He's like, I'm I'm beating

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<v Speaker 25>all of their marks. I'm beating all their marks recently.

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<v Speaker 4>And so he traded in a car and.

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<v Speaker 25>What happened car? Okay, So what happens is what he

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<v Speaker 25>doesn't realize is they put thirteenth thous dollars worth of

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<v Speaker 25>extended warranties and maintenance contract on this car. Now, mind you,

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<v Speaker 25>he doesn't need any No.

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<v Speaker 4>I get it. I get exactly what you're saying. We

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<v Speaker 4>can have all that stuff removed. Probably, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 4>it was just a few months ago, I did. So

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<v Speaker 4>they packed again. They packed the deal with a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of crap.

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<v Speaker 7>They packed the deal.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the name of the dealer. What's the name of

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<v Speaker 4>the dealer.

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<v Speaker 25>Yeah, it's Mercedes Benz of Colorado Springs. So that's the

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<v Speaker 25>trade name. And it Phill Long is who owns it.

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<v Speaker 25>Bill Long Auto House is the owner. But so let me.

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<v Speaker 7>So he does that.

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<v Speaker 25>He realizes, okay, this happened in February. He realizes that

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<v Speaker 25>he's paying way too much every month.

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<v Speaker 1>So he goes back and.

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<v Speaker 25>He's like, I want to return this car. I can't

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<v Speaker 25>afford this. I'm on a fixed income. And they say

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<v Speaker 25>you can't return it, which is okay, all right, there's

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01:17:52.039 --> 01:17:54.840
<v Speaker 25>no return policy. He's like, fine, let me just buy

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<v Speaker 25>my car back, and they say, okay. Now instead of

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<v Speaker 25>just he.

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<v Speaker 4>Just screwed him of Oh my god, I wish you

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<v Speaker 4>would have called us then. So wait a minute. So

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<v Speaker 4>then he decided to buy his car back.

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<v Speaker 25>He says, I'm gonna buy the car back. But instead

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<v Speaker 25>of doing what you just did, which is telling him, hey,

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<v Speaker 25>you can get money back if you cancel your service contract,

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<v Speaker 25>they don't do that. So they could talk get the money.

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<v Speaker 4>So what did he do?

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<v Speaker 25>They let him trade it in. Yeah, clire thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>He traded it in, and then what.

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<v Speaker 25>Okay, so he traded in the vehicle. They sell him

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<v Speaker 25>his own vehicle back for four thousand dollars. More so

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<v Speaker 25>he set the table with four thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, wait a minute, he he had he had

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<v Speaker 4>traded in a car that was paid off. What was

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<v Speaker 4>that car worth.

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<v Speaker 25>As a toda to Avalon They say it was worth

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<v Speaker 25>twenty thousand, which I would agree probably a round twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>So then how does he end up owing another four

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<v Speaker 4>grand after trading in the Mercedes?

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<v Speaker 25>So the Mercedes gets traded in for thirty nine thousand,

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<v Speaker 25>which is exactly his loan.

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<v Speaker 16>In the mouth.

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<v Speaker 25>Okay, so the lean gets wiped out?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah fine, hold on, but the twenty grand. Okay, the

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<v Speaker 4>loan got wiped out. And then what.

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<v Speaker 25>Well, so really the issue is because he paid thirteen

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<v Speaker 25>thousand dollars in those service contracts, he basically traded in

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<v Speaker 25>Historia Avalanch just for those service contracts, right, right.

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<v Speaker 4>But when he bought it back though, right? Now does

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<v Speaker 4>he have his old car back?

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<v Speaker 25>He has his old car back.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's a wall. I need to know net net. What

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<v Speaker 4>is the out of pocket? Now listen carefully. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>care how they finagled it. What I want to know

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<v Speaker 4>is the day before he went in to buy this

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<v Speaker 4>Mercedes and the day after he got his car back,

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<v Speaker 4>what is his net out of pocket that was not recovered.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not talking about money that was put in the deal.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not talking about anything. I'm talking about hard net

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<v Speaker 4>money out of his pocket. How much.

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<v Speaker 25>He paid in total, nine seven hundred and fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 25>in cash, and he has a lean on the Avalon

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<v Speaker 25>for the full purchase price of the avalon his Lian

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<v Speaker 25>is thirty two thousand, six hundred and fifty three dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>He never paid it all.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, Wait a minute, the Avalon how much

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01:20:42.840 --> 01:20:43.840
<v Speaker 4>would they sell it to him?

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<v Speaker 25>For twenty four thousand dollars?

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01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:51.239
<v Speaker 4>So he went in there and came out with his

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01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:55.199
<v Speaker 4>old car and a twenty seven thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 25>Loan, Yes, sir, And they sold him another service contract

1474
01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:05.479
<v Speaker 25>on the car that he already owned. They sold him

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01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:06.640
<v Speaker 25>a five thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but to some degree, Reina, Listen, these are scumbags,

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01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:17.399
<v Speaker 4>but to some degree, But to some degree, this guy

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01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:23.000
<v Speaker 4>is responsible for his own stupidity. Does he have a

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01:21:23.039 --> 01:21:26.079
<v Speaker 4>brain tumor or anything? Is Is his disability or death

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01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:30.239
<v Speaker 4>having to do with brain? No?

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01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:33.520
<v Speaker 25>But he What he tells me is that he had

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01:21:33.560 --> 01:21:36.439
<v Speaker 25>gotten out of the hospital. He was in active chemotherapy.

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01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:40.920
<v Speaker 4>He was exhausted, RAINA and waiting, RAINA, listening, RAINA.

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01:21:41.079 --> 01:21:42.359
<v Speaker 8>That's what's this.

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01:21:42.359 --> 01:21:44.960
<v Speaker 4>This is a screw job. Beyond screw jobs. Does he

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01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:47.039
<v Speaker 4>have a line of all the paperwork?

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01:21:49.439 --> 01:21:51.000
<v Speaker 25>I have all the paperwork.

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01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:51.800
<v Speaker 4>From the very beginning.

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01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:55.199
<v Speaker 7>The only things I.

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01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:58.319
<v Speaker 25>Don't have are the signed service contracts.

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01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:01.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't care about that. You have the very first

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01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:05.239
<v Speaker 4>time he bought the Mercedes, and then the deal he

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01:22:05.279 --> 01:22:09.840
<v Speaker 4>made trading it back in. Yes, sir, did he deal

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01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:12.800
<v Speaker 4>with the same sales person each time?

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01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:20.880
<v Speaker 23>That I think he?

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01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:21.520
<v Speaker 12>Still?

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01:22:22.039 --> 01:22:25.479
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Reina. I need you to send me

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01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:28.279
<v Speaker 4>that stuff. I need to look at the contracts. Okay

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01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:32.840
<v Speaker 4>and okay, how long ago did he trade it back

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<v Speaker 4>and get his old car?

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01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:39.800
<v Speaker 25>Let me find that.

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01:22:40.479 --> 01:22:42.319
<v Speaker 23>I believe that that was.

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01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:47.520
<v Speaker 4>On March.

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01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Twenty fifth, so.

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01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:55.520
<v Speaker 4>One month after when you said that he is a client.

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01:22:56.239 --> 01:22:57.000
<v Speaker 4>What do you do.

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01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:02.159
<v Speaker 25>I'm a lemon An Auto broad attorney in.

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01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:08.600
<v Speaker 4>Denver, so you are an attorney, Raina, I'm an attorney. Yeah,

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01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:12.680
<v Speaker 4>thank you for calling us. Let's work together and destroy this.

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01:23:12.680 --> 01:23:16.640
<v Speaker 4>This is the disgusting so I love it.

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01:23:16.640 --> 01:23:17.520
<v Speaker 25>Tom, thank you.

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01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:20.199
<v Speaker 4>Give me no, this is discussing. Give me that information

1513
01:23:20.319 --> 01:23:23.319
<v Speaker 4>off the air. Hey, Kachina, give her my private email

1514
01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:27.279
<v Speaker 4>please and have her send those contracts and that'll put

1515
01:23:27.359 --> 01:23:30.359
<v Speaker 4>us in direct communication. Thank you Raina for caring. We

1516
01:23:30.439 --> 01:23:38.279
<v Speaker 4>have more coming up. Go with a sure thing Denver's

1517
01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:41.199
<v Speaker 4>best rufer excel roofing dot com. You don't pay a

1518
01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:47.760
<v Speaker 4>cent until you're content. Time for an insurance checkup free,

1519
01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:51.920
<v Speaker 4>no obligation comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your

1520
01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:54.920
<v Speaker 4>coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out now three

1521
01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:57.560
<v Speaker 4>O three seven seven one help. You'll think you're his

1522
01:23:57.720 --> 01:24:00.359
<v Speaker 4>only customer when you choose Frank durand the Real state

1523
01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:03.640
<v Speaker 4>Man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance

1524
01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:10.640
<v Speaker 4>three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi

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01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:12.319
<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino, your troubleshooter.

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01:24:12.359 --> 01:24:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Earlier, a woman called. She obviously did not have her

1528
01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:21.920
<v Speaker 4>complete wits about her. She was in an accident and

1529
01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:26.159
<v Speaker 4>she had a closed head injury, was in a coma.

1530
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:31.319
<v Speaker 4>She remembers being injured, going to an attorney, getting a settlement.

1531
01:24:32.199 --> 01:24:37.640
<v Speaker 4>She said she got a settlement of fifty grand. She

1532
01:24:37.720 --> 01:24:41.840
<v Speaker 4>remembers pulling out one thousand dollars and no other accounting.

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01:24:42.680 --> 01:24:47.239
<v Speaker 4>She said she used attorney Todd Bovo. We asked our

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01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:51.079
<v Speaker 4>personal injury attorney, one of our experts, John Fuller, how

1535
01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:53.159
<v Speaker 4>could this happen? He said, Oh, Tom, there are all

1536
01:24:53.239 --> 01:24:56.319
<v Speaker 4>kinds of things that could happen. First with her injury.

1537
01:24:56.399 --> 01:24:59.359
<v Speaker 4>It could be she's not remembering everything, or number two

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01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:05.199
<v Speaker 4>it it could be that there was reimbursement to Medicare

1539
01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:10.800
<v Speaker 4>or medicaid. It could be all kinds of things. And

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01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:14.239
<v Speaker 4>luckily a friend of Todd's was listening and Todd called us,

1541
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:18.000
<v Speaker 4>so we can hear from him and just find out

1542
01:25:18.439 --> 01:25:22.640
<v Speaker 4>what's going on. And again we're not using any last names,

1543
01:25:22.680 --> 01:25:25.920
<v Speaker 4>We're not using any specifics here or just getting general information.

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01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:28.800
<v Speaker 4>So Todd, thank you for calling.

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01:25:31.039 --> 01:25:34.000
<v Speaker 26>Sure Tom, I'm a big fan, love the show.

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01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:38.640
<v Speaker 4>Thank you So when you recalled this settlement from years ago.

1547
01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:43.319
<v Speaker 26>When I received a text from this friend, I saw

1548
01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:46.840
<v Speaker 26>it to myself, I know exactly who this is, and

1549
01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:51.439
<v Speaker 26>I called in your show, and I was right. It

1550
01:25:51.600 --> 01:25:56.960
<v Speaker 26>is one of the saddest situations that I've ever encountered.

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01:25:57.199 --> 01:26:01.960
<v Speaker 26>She was initially represented by Frank Gazar. And what I

1552
01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:05.199
<v Speaker 26>want your listeners to know is that coming up is

1553
01:26:05.319 --> 01:26:09.279
<v Speaker 26>the most dangerous day of the year for pedestrians, and

1554
01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:10.439
<v Speaker 26>it was for this client.

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01:26:10.520 --> 01:26:11.279
<v Speaker 14>It's Halloween.

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01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:17.960
<v Speaker 26>Oh, and she was out and walking and unfortunately for

1557
01:26:18.239 --> 01:26:23.119
<v Speaker 26>us in Colorado, the Colorado minimums to be insured it's

1558
01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:26.520
<v Speaker 26>twenty five thousand, right, and so we were able to

1559
01:26:26.720 --> 01:26:29.760
<v Speaker 26>acquire the policy limits. And I don't think we charged

1560
01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:33.199
<v Speaker 26>her a fee, but she had hundreds of thousands of

1561
01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:37.760
<v Speaker 26>daughters and bills. Without going into specifics, she was an

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01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:42.319
<v Speaker 26>up and coming, vibrant, beautiful real estate agent and I

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01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:47.520
<v Speaker 26>talked to her. This happened, I believe in twenty fourteen too, yeah, fifteen,

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01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:51.880
<v Speaker 26>and I talked She reaches out every year. And so

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01:26:52.319 --> 01:26:55.039
<v Speaker 26>what I think your listeners should know, and what most

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01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:59.199
<v Speaker 26>people don't know, is that when you're walking around on

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01:26:59.279 --> 01:27:02.439
<v Speaker 26>Halloween or any other day and you get hit by

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01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:06.800
<v Speaker 26>somebody that doesn't have the right insurance or the Colorado minimum.

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01:27:07.199 --> 01:27:10.960
<v Speaker 26>If you have your own auto policy, your um or

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01:27:11.079 --> 01:27:14.960
<v Speaker 26>UIM policy that covers you like a halo, and it would.

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01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:16.920
<v Speaker 4>Have protected her. But she didn't have that.

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01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:21.239
<v Speaker 26>And they didn't have that, And so I visited her

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01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:23.760
<v Speaker 26>in the nursing home, and actually just a couple of

1574
01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:26.319
<v Speaker 26>weeks ago, I spoke with the fellow that she was with.

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01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:30.560
<v Speaker 26>These head injuries are the scariest thing that you can

1576
01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:34.319
<v Speaker 26>ever experience. These people lose everything, and.

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01:27:34.640 --> 01:27:39.520
<v Speaker 4>She lost her entire career, everything. But there was nowhere

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01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:42.520
<v Speaker 4>to collect, nowhere to collect.

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01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:44.960
<v Speaker 26>No, and we did the best we could.

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01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:46.359
<v Speaker 14>We always do.

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<v Speaker 26>You know, we're in the business of making sure these

1582
01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:50.840
<v Speaker 26>clients can get So.

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01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Todd, let me ask you something. She remembers getting one

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01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:55.319
<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars. Was that accurate?

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01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:59.159
<v Speaker 26>I think it was much more than that, even though

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01:27:59.319 --> 01:28:02.800
<v Speaker 26>there were the the or bills, So yeah, I'd have

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01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:05.560
<v Speaker 26>to look at the settlement memo, but I think it

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01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:08.840
<v Speaker 26>was a lot more than that because we we negotiated

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01:28:08.880 --> 01:28:10.840
<v Speaker 26>with all the bills and say, listen, we're in the

1590
01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:15.159
<v Speaker 26>businesses providing this conversation for the clients, not paying hospital bills.

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<v Speaker 4>Is she on disability right now? Yes, So she reaches

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01:28:20.319 --> 01:28:23.159
<v Speaker 4>out every year because she doesn't recall the details.

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01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:25.039
<v Speaker 26>Right.

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01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:27.439
<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's sad. That is so sad.

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01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:31.920
<v Speaker 26>She's a lovely, lovely woman and I wish her the best,

1596
01:28:32.039 --> 01:28:33.720
<v Speaker 26>and I just wish that there was some way to

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01:28:33.800 --> 01:28:37.560
<v Speaker 26>repair the brain after that. But it, you know, going

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01:28:37.600 --> 01:28:40.119
<v Speaker 26>out on Halloween it frightens me. And make sure all

1599
01:28:40.159 --> 01:28:43.680
<v Speaker 26>those kids are safe because it's dangerous, and you know,

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01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:47.239
<v Speaker 26>it happens more on Halloween than any other day. And God,

1601
01:28:47.680 --> 01:28:50.359
<v Speaker 26>it ruined her life, it really did.

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01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:55.760
<v Speaker 4>And you know, and so you explain stuff to her

1603
01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:58.800
<v Speaker 4>and then you inevitably get a call in a year

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01:28:58.880 --> 01:28:59.199
<v Speaker 4>or so.

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01:29:01.119 --> 01:29:06.479
<v Speaker 26>Oh repeatedly. And that's what's most disheartening with these brain

1606
01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:08.840
<v Speaker 26>injuries is it doesn't matter how many times that you

1607
01:29:08.920 --> 01:29:13.840
<v Speaker 26>explain it. It just doesn't sink in. And it's hard.

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01:29:14.479 --> 01:29:18.920
<v Speaker 26>It's hard to understand because this woman was owed millions

1609
01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:22.960
<v Speaker 26>for her injuries. She should have millions, right, and she

1610
01:29:23.079 --> 01:29:25.159
<v Speaker 26>was hit by the drunk FedEx driver.

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01:29:25.359 --> 01:29:26.119
<v Speaker 14>She wouldn't be.

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01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:28.680
<v Speaker 26>In the situation that she's in, right, she would at

1613
01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:31.600
<v Speaker 26>least have the treatment, right, And it's just so sad.

1614
01:29:32.359 --> 01:29:36.960
<v Speaker 4>You're right, there's nothing people can do when they don't

1615
01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:41.279
<v Speaker 4>have insurance and the other person has no net worth.

1616
01:29:41.800 --> 01:29:45.359
<v Speaker 4>So I got a question, is there a way? I

1617
01:29:45.439 --> 01:29:48.479
<v Speaker 4>never asked my insurance people this, I should Is there

1618
01:29:48.600 --> 01:29:52.039
<v Speaker 4>any kind of a way to get any kind of

1619
01:29:52.039 --> 01:29:54.680
<v Speaker 4>an umbrella that would cover you in these situations if

1620
01:29:54.720 --> 01:29:55.960
<v Speaker 4>you don't have an auto policy?

1621
01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:01.880
<v Speaker 26>I don't know there is relative Well if you even

1622
01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:05.279
<v Speaker 26>if you live with somebody in the home, could you

1623
01:30:05.279 --> 01:30:05.920
<v Speaker 26>ear covered?

1624
01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:09.960
<v Speaker 4>So you tried all kinds of options and she had

1625
01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:13.359
<v Speaker 4>nothing that she could go to other than this individual.

1626
01:30:15.159 --> 01:30:17.279
<v Speaker 26>Yeah, And what a lot of people don't understand is, like,

1627
01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:20.880
<v Speaker 26>you know, they had coverage. We could have sued and

1628
01:30:20.920 --> 01:30:23.119
<v Speaker 26>got a verdict for millions, but what good does that

1629
01:30:23.159 --> 01:30:26.880
<v Speaker 26>do her? When you have a a client that or

1630
01:30:26.920 --> 01:30:31.640
<v Speaker 26>a defendant that's non collectible. You know, you get a

1631
01:30:31.680 --> 01:30:35.920
<v Speaker 26>twenty million dollars verdict and the insurance company hands you

1632
01:30:35.920 --> 01:30:38.079
<v Speaker 26>a check for twenty five thousand, says you know they're

1633
01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:39.439
<v Speaker 26>they're on the hook for the rest?

1634
01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:43.439
<v Speaker 4>Right, So all right, well listen, Todd Todd Bobo, We

1635
01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:49.840
<v Speaker 4>certainly appreciate you shedding light on this, and you if

1636
01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:52.720
<v Speaker 4>the guy went to jail, Oh did the guy was

1637
01:30:52.760 --> 01:30:55.640
<v Speaker 4>the guy punished by law enforcement Todd by the way,

1638
01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:57.439
<v Speaker 4>did the guy get punished.

1639
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:02.079
<v Speaker 26>Because it come from the other firm that had been

1640
01:31:02.119 --> 01:31:03.720
<v Speaker 26>resolved prior to coming to it?

1641
01:31:03.840 --> 01:31:04.399
<v Speaker 4>Okays?

1642
01:31:04.560 --> 01:31:06.199
<v Speaker 6>But okay?

1643
01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:12.079
<v Speaker 4>Usually yeah, I mean yeah, that is so bad. That

1644
01:31:12.079 --> 01:31:14.840
<v Speaker 4>that is so bad. I mean there's nothing you can

1645
01:31:14.880 --> 01:31:19.359
<v Speaker 4>do about it. Our state minimums are horrendous and insulting.

1646
01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:25.479
<v Speaker 4>They're insulting. Oh god, I'm Tom Martino, and we have

1647
01:31:25.560 --> 01:31:28.159
<v Speaker 4>more coming right now. I have Dan Mackenzie coming up.

1648
01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:30.800
<v Speaker 4>In fact, I want to ask Dan just real quick

1649
01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:32.640
<v Speaker 4>this I can get Dan in because he's a very

1650
01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:36.319
<v Speaker 4>busy man in a state. Where did he go away?

1651
01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:38.760
<v Speaker 4>I guess he went away? All right, we have more

1652
01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:47.079
<v Speaker 4>coming right up. Go with a sure thing Denver's best

1653
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1654
01:31:50.239 --> 01:31:56.319
<v Speaker 4>until you're content. Time for an insurance check up free,

1655
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<v Speaker 4>no obligation. In comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much

1656
01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:03.199
<v Speaker 4>your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out now

1657
01:32:03.279 --> 01:32:05.760
<v Speaker 4>three oh three, seven seven to one help. You'll think

1658
01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:08.399
<v Speaker 4>you're his only customer When you choose Frank durand the

1659
01:32:08.399 --> 01:32:11.039
<v Speaker 4>real estate Man dot com to list your home with

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<v Speaker 4>Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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01:32:22.960 --> 01:32:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Hello Tom Martino here three O three seven one three

1662
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<v Speaker 4>So that's probid energy dot Com. Okay, now I want

1666
01:32:42.119 --> 01:32:45.199
<v Speaker 4>to go back to the phones. Dan McKenzie is with us. Dan,

1667
01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:47.159
<v Speaker 4>thank you for being here. We have a quick question

1668
01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:52.760
<v Speaker 4>for you there, sir, Yeah, okay. Our question is with

1669
01:32:53.039 --> 01:32:58.760
<v Speaker 4>having to do with Gary and Gary uh said that

1670
01:32:59.720 --> 01:33:04.920
<v Speaker 4>his father died, and his father died May first, his

1671
01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:11.600
<v Speaker 4>niece is the personal representative according to the will, the

1672
01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:15.399
<v Speaker 4>nephew got the house, the niece got the bank account,

1673
01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:21.000
<v Speaker 4>but they don't know how much, and the other siblings

1674
01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:23.239
<v Speaker 4>are supposed to get something, but he don't know. He

1675
01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:27.119
<v Speaker 4>doesn't know what. How does he get information? Isn't that

1676
01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:29.880
<v Speaker 4>your question? Gary? What is your right to information?

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01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:30.439
<v Speaker 6>If any?

1678
01:33:31.359 --> 01:33:35.039
<v Speaker 14>Yeah? Yeah, exactly? How do I get an accounting of

1679
01:33:35.079 --> 01:33:42.399
<v Speaker 14>the will and an accounting of his produciaries? Because I'm

1680
01:33:42.439 --> 01:33:48.399
<v Speaker 14>hearing two different stories when my father was I'm trying

1681
01:33:48.439 --> 01:33:51.720
<v Speaker 14>to make let's make a real quick, simple deal out

1682
01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:57.039
<v Speaker 14>of it. My mom died in May of twenty three

1683
01:33:57.680 --> 01:33:59.920
<v Speaker 14>and my dad was ready to die. They'd been married

1684
01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:02.960
<v Speaker 14>seventy four years. My dad was ready to die then,

1685
01:34:03.640 --> 01:34:06.279
<v Speaker 14>so he went back to Kansas. He lived in the

1686
01:34:06.319 --> 01:34:09.159
<v Speaker 14>mountains here. He went back to Kansas for the winter,

1687
01:34:09.640 --> 01:34:11.880
<v Speaker 14>and he decided he wanted to come home and die

1688
01:34:11.920 --> 01:34:17.079
<v Speaker 14>in his house in April of this year. So he

1689
01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:21.199
<v Speaker 14>came home and my niece came out and was taken

1690
01:34:21.239 --> 01:34:28.000
<v Speaker 14>care of him. And sometime between the time my mom died,

1691
01:34:28.119 --> 01:34:31.960
<v Speaker 14>when my mom died, they went in and changed the wheel.

1692
01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:37.560
<v Speaker 14>And what my dad told me was he made my

1693
01:34:37.800 --> 01:34:43.279
<v Speaker 14>daughter and the nephew that got the house as because

1694
01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:50.960
<v Speaker 14>you know the what do you call it personal representation?

1695
01:34:51.119 --> 01:34:52.920
<v Speaker 4>What does this have to do with anything? You just

1696
01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:55.479
<v Speaker 4>want to know how to get an accounting, right, Dan,

1697
01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:58.239
<v Speaker 4>How does he get an accounting of the will? Well?

1698
01:34:58.319 --> 01:35:05.319
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, and how how the four uh, the four people

1699
01:35:05.359 --> 01:35:07.680
<v Speaker 14>that are supposed to be able to divide the stuff up?

1700
01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:12.920
<v Speaker 14>She divided everything up and said, Okay, this is what

1701
01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:13.399
<v Speaker 14>you get.

1702
01:35:13.479 --> 01:35:16.920
<v Speaker 4>This is what we get that, Gary, Gary, we get that.

1703
01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:19.279
<v Speaker 4>That's what an accounting is. I mean, you want to

1704
01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:21.119
<v Speaker 4>know if you're mentioned in the will and how you're

1705
01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:23.239
<v Speaker 4>mentioned you're not. You didn't get a copy of the will?

1706
01:35:23.319 --> 01:35:23.760
<v Speaker 6>Is that right?

1707
01:35:24.399 --> 01:35:25.600
<v Speaker 14>Yeah? I did get a copy.

1708
01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:28.479
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well in that will? In that will, what does

1709
01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:30.359
<v Speaker 4>it say about you and your brothers? Because that's what

1710
01:35:30.479 --> 01:35:32.039
<v Speaker 4>you're concerned about. What does it say?

1711
01:35:32.840 --> 01:35:35.279
<v Speaker 14>Right? And said she's the personal representative?

1712
01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:38.359
<v Speaker 4>I get what does it say about you and your brothers? Gary?

1713
01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:41.319
<v Speaker 14>That we get everything that's in the house?

1714
01:35:41.520 --> 01:35:45.439
<v Speaker 4>Okay? And and did you get everything in the house? No,

1715
01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:46.640
<v Speaker 4>where is it?

1716
01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:50.920
<v Speaker 14>Well she split up a bunch of stuff and and

1717
01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:53.520
<v Speaker 14>put it in storage and says, okay, come get what

1718
01:35:53.640 --> 01:35:54.039
<v Speaker 14>you get.

1719
01:35:54.319 --> 01:35:57.199
<v Speaker 4>Oh well, then why didn't you go get what you got?

1720
01:35:57.439 --> 01:36:00.239
<v Speaker 14>Well? I did, And the furniture and everything else is

1721
01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:04.560
<v Speaker 14>still in the house. And I want to know where

1722
01:36:04.600 --> 01:36:07.800
<v Speaker 14>certain things are and and they have it shown up.

1723
01:36:08.359 --> 01:36:09.439
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So what do you do?

1724
01:36:10.760 --> 01:36:11.720
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, what do you do?

1725
01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:16.239
<v Speaker 4>Dan mackenzie, give them a chance to answer. Now, go ahead, Dan,

1726
01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:18.000
<v Speaker 4>You're not contesting the will.

1727
01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:22.840
<v Speaker 27>You're just trying to figure out how you get your stuff. Okay, Yeah,

1728
01:36:22.920 --> 01:36:26.439
<v Speaker 27>I mean I guess that this is it's just personal property.

1729
01:36:26.439 --> 01:36:28.279
<v Speaker 27>It's just stuff from the house you're trying to get.

1730
01:36:29.479 --> 01:36:31.800
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, Well, I'd like to know where the money went

1731
01:36:31.880 --> 01:36:33.479
<v Speaker 14>and the stocks and bonds.

1732
01:36:33.119 --> 01:36:40.119
<v Speaker 27>To well, are you entitled to that under the well?

1733
01:36:43.039 --> 01:36:43.640
<v Speaker 15>You have a right.

1734
01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:44.560
<v Speaker 27>I mean, you are in here.

1735
01:36:45.159 --> 01:36:46.079
<v Speaker 11>You know whether even if.

1736
01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:55.520
<v Speaker 14>Is she I'm sorry, is she entitled to it?

1737
01:36:57.279 --> 01:36:59.439
<v Speaker 27>I mean, it just depends on what the will says.

1738
01:36:59.479 --> 01:37:01.399
<v Speaker 27>And if you're I mean, if you're going to contest

1739
01:37:01.399 --> 01:37:03.319
<v Speaker 27>that will and say, hey, this will was made under

1740
01:37:03.439 --> 01:37:06.720
<v Speaker 27>you know, somebody was pressuring her to do this and

1741
01:37:06.920 --> 01:37:09.760
<v Speaker 27>inappropriately or some or she didn't have capacity, she didn't

1742
01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:10.920
<v Speaker 27>know what she was doing at the time.

1743
01:37:11.319 --> 01:37:12.399
<v Speaker 14>Those are the usual.

1744
01:37:12.319 --> 01:37:15.119
<v Speaker 27>Common way to contest the will. If you're not contesting

1745
01:37:15.119 --> 01:37:17.680
<v Speaker 27>the will, certainly you know you should get what you're

1746
01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:19.399
<v Speaker 27>in what the will says you're supposed to get, but

1747
01:37:19.479 --> 01:37:22.880
<v Speaker 27>they do have some time to figure that out. As

1748
01:37:22.880 --> 01:37:24.239
<v Speaker 27>far as you know, how are we going to make

1749
01:37:24.239 --> 01:37:25.720
<v Speaker 27>this available and how are we going to get it

1750
01:37:25.760 --> 01:37:25.920
<v Speaker 27>to you?

1751
01:37:25.920 --> 01:37:26.880
<v Speaker 15>And all that kind of stuff.

1752
01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:29.359
<v Speaker 6>Have you asked?

1753
01:37:29.960 --> 01:37:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Have you asked what the plan is? Yes?

1754
01:37:32.199 --> 01:37:34.000
<v Speaker 14>I've asked her and asked her.

1755
01:37:34.279 --> 01:37:38.039
<v Speaker 4>Will they give you information exactly?

1756
01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:40.279
<v Speaker 14>I can't get any information.

1757
01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:42.760
<v Speaker 4>But I think you did get information. I think she

1758
01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:45.880
<v Speaker 4>got the bank account, he got the house, the nephew

1759
01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:48.279
<v Speaker 4>and niece and you guys get the stuff in the

1760
01:37:48.319 --> 01:37:49.119
<v Speaker 4>storage unit.

1761
01:37:49.840 --> 01:37:51.840
<v Speaker 14>I don't know if she got the bank account or not.

1762
01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:55.840
<v Speaker 14>It doesn't say that in the in the in the will.

1763
01:37:55.960 --> 01:37:57.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, he brings up a good point. Let's just

1764
01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:00.600
<v Speaker 4>ask it like it is, okay, Dan, I've asked you

1765
01:38:00.640 --> 01:38:04.000
<v Speaker 4>this a million times. People always have questions about wills.

1766
01:38:04.279 --> 01:38:06.279
<v Speaker 4>They do they if they're not part of it, they

1767
01:38:06.319 --> 01:38:08.199
<v Speaker 4>have a question about it. Or if they are part

1768
01:38:08.239 --> 01:38:11.079
<v Speaker 4>of it but they're not the representative. Is there a

1769
01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:14.760
<v Speaker 4>requirement that the personal representative or the attorney or someone

1770
01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:17.159
<v Speaker 4>makes the full accounting of what went where.

1771
01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:22.439
<v Speaker 27>Yes to people who haven't interested in the estate, for sure,

1772
01:38:22.479 --> 01:38:25.239
<v Speaker 27>And even a disinherited person has an interest in the estate.

1773
01:38:25.720 --> 01:38:28.399
<v Speaker 27>As far as getting the will. You know, as we've discussed,

1774
01:38:28.439 --> 01:38:30.920
<v Speaker 27>the will is required like whoever has the copy of

1775
01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:33.760
<v Speaker 27>the will is required to lodge it with the county

1776
01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:35.720
<v Speaker 27>probate court. That means hand it over to the county

1777
01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:37.520
<v Speaker 27>probate court, whether there's going to be probate or not,

1778
01:38:37.680 --> 01:38:39.600
<v Speaker 27>they have to give it to them. And it's for

1779
01:38:39.640 --> 01:38:41.439
<v Speaker 27>this reason that people who have an interest in the

1780
01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:43.680
<v Speaker 27>estate can go see it. And if they haven't done that,

1781
01:38:43.760 --> 01:38:45.279
<v Speaker 27>if they're sitting on a will and they are not

1782
01:38:45.439 --> 01:38:49.479
<v Speaker 27>lodging it. They could be responsible for any you know,

1783
01:38:49.960 --> 01:38:53.159
<v Speaker 27>damages that causes that the people who should have received

1784
01:38:53.159 --> 01:38:55.600
<v Speaker 27>stuff under that will didn't get it because they didn't

1785
01:38:55.640 --> 01:38:56.359
<v Speaker 27>know what the will said.

1786
01:38:56.439 --> 01:38:58.800
<v Speaker 4>So does he have to have an attorney to do this?

1787
01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:02.920
<v Speaker 27>I mean, he's alreadyn't given the will, so I don't.

1788
01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:06.279
<v Speaker 27>I mean, that doesn't seem like that's really an issue.

1789
01:39:06.920 --> 01:39:09.119
<v Speaker 27>If he wants to contest the will, then yes, I

1790
01:39:09.119 --> 01:39:09.640
<v Speaker 27>would say, But.

1791
01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:11.279
<v Speaker 4>He doesn't want to contest the will what he wants

1792
01:39:11.279 --> 01:39:14.000
<v Speaker 4>to I think what he's saying is he has no

1793
01:39:14.119 --> 01:39:17.800
<v Speaker 4>idea where certain things are, and I don't think there's

1794
01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:21.439
<v Speaker 4>anyone that can compel anyone that all the niece has

1795
01:39:21.479 --> 01:39:23.079
<v Speaker 4>to say is I have no idea where it is.

1796
01:39:25.079 --> 01:39:28.600
<v Speaker 27>Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm not entirely clear. If

1797
01:39:28.600 --> 01:39:31.680
<v Speaker 27>he made a very clear request about here are the

1798
01:39:31.680 --> 01:39:34.520
<v Speaker 27>items I'm expecting, when can I expect to receive them?

1799
01:39:34.600 --> 01:39:35.800
<v Speaker 27>And how are you going to get them to me?

1800
01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:37.960
<v Speaker 4>And what did he ask? How much was in the

1801
01:39:37.960 --> 01:39:40.560
<v Speaker 4>bank account? Does she have to tell him since she

1802
01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:43.960
<v Speaker 4>got the bank account, it depends.

1803
01:39:43.520 --> 01:39:45.479
<v Speaker 27>On it to win through the probate process or not

1804
01:39:45.640 --> 01:39:47.239
<v Speaker 27>if it was if it just went to her through

1805
01:39:47.279 --> 01:39:48.640
<v Speaker 27>like some sort of designated beneficial.

1806
01:39:48.760 --> 01:39:50.520
<v Speaker 4>No, it was in I guess it was in the will.

1807
01:39:50.800 --> 01:39:53.680
<v Speaker 4>It was in the will, right, Oh, it was.

1808
01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:55.920
<v Speaker 14>She was a signer on the account.

1809
01:39:56.079 --> 01:39:58.680
<v Speaker 4>Never mind, never mind, then she'd okay, then it didn't

1810
01:39:58.680 --> 01:39:59.640
<v Speaker 4>go through the probate.

1811
01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:03.720
<v Speaker 14>Right, So when he passes in, she automatically gets.

1812
01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:06.439
<v Speaker 4>What was the special relationship with this niece and nephew?

1813
01:40:06.439 --> 01:40:09.279
<v Speaker 4>That got everything basically, Well, there.

1814
01:40:09.479 --> 01:40:13.920
<v Speaker 14>Really was no special relationship. I mean they came out

1815
01:40:13.960 --> 01:40:17.159
<v Speaker 14>here every year from Kansas when they were kids, and

1816
01:40:17.159 --> 01:40:18.439
<v Speaker 14>and they thought they were.

1817
01:40:18.520 --> 01:40:21.319
<v Speaker 4>Kids, and which one which one of the siblings? Do

1818
01:40:21.359 --> 01:40:26.319
<v Speaker 4>they belong to the youngest boy? And is your youngest brother?

1819
01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:31.560
<v Speaker 4>It's your brother, right right? Is he wondering too or

1820
01:40:31.680 --> 01:40:32.039
<v Speaker 4>just you?

1821
01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:35.199
<v Speaker 14>Yeah? Yeah, he's a strange. They will not talk to

1822
01:40:35.279 --> 01:40:35.920
<v Speaker 14>him at all.

1823
01:40:36.039 --> 01:40:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Okay, listen, I don't know what to do about this, Dan,

1824
01:40:39.199 --> 01:40:42.279
<v Speaker 4>I think that you said it. Can he just go

1825
01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:44.319
<v Speaker 4>to the judge and request an accounting?

1826
01:40:47.720 --> 01:40:50.399
<v Speaker 27>Yeah, I mean, as that person you can ask the

1827
01:40:50.399 --> 01:40:52.840
<v Speaker 27>personal representative. You should have gotten a document called an

1828
01:40:52.840 --> 01:40:56.119
<v Speaker 27>information of appointment telling you what your rights are, and

1829
01:40:56.119 --> 01:40:57.920
<v Speaker 27>one of them is to requests and accounting and you

1830
01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:01.319
<v Speaker 27>actually do that to the personal presentatives say I would

1831
01:41:01.319 --> 01:41:02.000
<v Speaker 27>like the accounting.

1832
01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:02.960
<v Speaker 4>That's it.

1833
01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:06.840
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, And I did that, And she says, I don't

1834
01:41:06.920 --> 01:41:08.279
<v Speaker 14>have to give you an account.

1835
01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:10.199
<v Speaker 4>But you didn't do it through the court. Man, You

1836
01:41:10.239 --> 01:41:11.319
<v Speaker 4>didn't do it through the court.

1837
01:41:11.439 --> 01:41:12.840
<v Speaker 14>No I did. No, I didn't.

1838
01:41:12.960 --> 01:41:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well that's what you do. You asked the judge

1839
01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:16.279
<v Speaker 4>to do it.

1840
01:41:18.159 --> 01:41:19.239
<v Speaker 27>I mean, you really shouldn't have to.

1841
01:41:20.520 --> 01:41:22.399
<v Speaker 4>And what you ought to do is you and your brothers.

1842
01:41:22.479 --> 01:41:24.119
<v Speaker 4>Let me just let me just cut this short because

1843
01:41:24.159 --> 01:41:26.479
<v Speaker 4>we have another call for him. You and your brother's

1844
01:41:26.560 --> 01:41:29.560
<v Speaker 4>call called Dan McKenzie. Give him the number off the air, please,

1845
01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:33.760
<v Speaker 4>kat China eight three three Coe plans Dan. Hang on

1846
01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:36.039
<v Speaker 4>because Sue has a quick question here. I hope it's

1847
01:41:36.039 --> 01:41:40.600
<v Speaker 4>a quick question. Hold on, Uh, Sue is right here, Sue?

1848
01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:42.960
<v Speaker 4>What is your question real quick here about probate?

1849
01:41:45.039 --> 01:41:47.960
<v Speaker 8>Yes, sir, I do I have a case right now

1850
01:41:48.119 --> 01:41:53.119
<v Speaker 8>that I'm looking seeking an attorney for for contested probate

1851
01:41:53.680 --> 01:41:56.640
<v Speaker 8>now duciary that has breached his contract.

1852
01:41:56.840 --> 01:42:00.359
<v Speaker 4>So what are you saying a fiduciary another at Joorney

1853
01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:05.439
<v Speaker 4>or the personal representative or who breached the contract.

1854
01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:10.119
<v Speaker 8>The personal representative. My son used to be the power

1855
01:42:10.119 --> 01:42:13.399
<v Speaker 8>of attorney, and then they took My sister went behind

1856
01:42:13.399 --> 01:42:19.000
<v Speaker 8>our backs during COVID and she got conservatorship, and she

1857
01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:22.920
<v Speaker 8>took away the medical part, the caregiving, and she put

1858
01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:25.800
<v Speaker 8>it onto her. I was my dad's caregiver, and now

1859
01:42:25.840 --> 01:42:26.800
<v Speaker 8>she's the caregiver.

1860
01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:28.279
<v Speaker 4>She's the caregiver.

1861
01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:30.520
<v Speaker 10>Now, well she was.

1862
01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:34.319
<v Speaker 8>My dad passed away yesterday. It was a third year anniversary. Okay,

1863
01:42:34.439 --> 01:42:38.960
<v Speaker 8>but this piduciary has breached so many gay tends.

1864
01:42:39.439 --> 01:42:40.119
<v Speaker 2>What could give me.

1865
01:42:40.079 --> 01:42:44.239
<v Speaker 4>An example of what this so called seduciary breached?

1866
01:42:46.039 --> 01:42:49.880
<v Speaker 8>Okay, First of all, he did not take care of

1867
01:42:49.960 --> 01:42:53.920
<v Speaker 8>the properties and they started going downhill. He took one

1868
01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:57.960
<v Speaker 8>hundred thousand dollars out of my dad's money to sue

1869
01:42:58.399 --> 01:43:03.079
<v Speaker 8>a family member that nobody else was suing. He has

1870
01:43:03.119 --> 01:43:04.920
<v Speaker 8>no right to miss appropriate.

1871
01:43:04.960 --> 01:43:07.520
<v Speaker 4>Who is this he? Who is he? What is he?

1872
01:43:07.960 --> 01:43:08.640
<v Speaker 4>Your brother?

1873
01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:10.079
<v Speaker 8>He's a conservator?

1874
01:43:10.520 --> 01:43:11.199
<v Speaker 4>Is he your brother?

1875
01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:12.560
<v Speaker 10>Oh?

1876
01:43:12.680 --> 01:43:12.840
<v Speaker 2>No?

1877
01:43:13.119 --> 01:43:16.159
<v Speaker 4>He is no reason was he appointed by the courts?

1878
01:43:17.399 --> 01:43:20.479
<v Speaker 8>Somehow he was appointed? My sisters went on a witchland.

1879
01:43:20.600 --> 01:43:22.640
<v Speaker 8>I guess they did this all behind our back.

1880
01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:25.920
<v Speaker 4>Who appointed blind guy conservator?

1881
01:43:28.039 --> 01:43:30.600
<v Speaker 8>It had to be the courts, and both of those

1882
01:43:30.640 --> 01:43:34.600
<v Speaker 8>sisters must have tried to call and find out how

1883
01:43:34.640 --> 01:43:36.359
<v Speaker 8>they could go about getting my son off of the

1884
01:43:36.399 --> 01:43:38.000
<v Speaker 8>power of attorney because they were jealous.

1885
01:43:38.119 --> 01:43:42.359
<v Speaker 4>But all I okay, where was he appointed conservator while

1886
01:43:42.359 --> 01:43:44.479
<v Speaker 4>the guy was alive or after he died?

1887
01:43:44.840 --> 01:43:48.319
<v Speaker 8>Yes, my dad was alive and this guy has been

1888
01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:50.159
<v Speaker 8>us four years.

1889
01:43:50.359 --> 01:43:53.119
<v Speaker 4>Okay, got it, Okay, got it? Hold on, hold on,

1890
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<v Speaker 4>I gotta take this break. Hold on, go with a

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<v Speaker 4>sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You

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<v Speaker 4>don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for an

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<v Speaker 4>insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison, call Compass

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<v Speaker 4>Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of insurance

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<v Speaker 4>companies find out now three oh three seven seven to

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<v Speaker 4>one help. You'll think you're his only customer when you

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<v Speaker 4>choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com to

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<v Speaker 4>list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine

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<v Speaker 4>two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, you're a troubleshooter.

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<v Speaker 4>Three oh three seven one three talks seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>h five five. We don't have a lot of time,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm going to ask Dan, Dan if there is

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<v Speaker 4>we've had This come up a lot of times before.

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<v Speaker 4>Mackenzie Law, Dan COEO Plans dot co. If you have

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<v Speaker 4>somebody appointed a public trust, he or whatever they call them,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're you don't like what they're doing, what do

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01:44:56.279 --> 01:44:58.760
<v Speaker 4>you do as heirs of the estate, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 4>Especially with everyone's fighting?

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<v Speaker 27>Yeah, I mean you have a couple. I mean certainly

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<v Speaker 27>you can ask a court to replace that person something

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01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:09.000
<v Speaker 27>less traumatic than that. It's just that the person be

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<v Speaker 27>supervised by the courts. Usually, in most probates, the personal

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<v Speaker 27>representatives out there doing the stuff they need to do

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<v Speaker 27>and the court's not really checking unless phecifically being half.

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<v Speaker 4>We hear a lot of complaints though about conservators. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they're naturally hated because the family doesn't want them. Sue.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll talk to you after the break, Dan McKenzie mackenzie Law.

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<v Speaker 4>It's eight three three CO plans. But this is something

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<v Speaker 4>we need to talk about because there's too many bad

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<v Speaker 4>ones out there. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best

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<v Speaker 4>Roofer Excel roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent

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<v Speaker 4>until you're content. Time for an insurance check up free,

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<v Speaker 4>no obligation. In comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much

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01:45:54.319 --> 01:45:57.239
<v Speaker 4>your coverage at dozens of insurance companies. Find out now

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<v Speaker 4>three O three seven to seven to one help. You'll

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01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:02.359
<v Speaker 4>think you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand

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<v Speaker 4>the real estate man dot com to list your home

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<v Speaker 4>with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ripped up.

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<v Speaker 2>New need so you don't have come running Just as

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<v Speaker 2>fast as we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Shooter's gonna help.

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<v Speaker 2>Come man, this is.

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<v Speaker 3>The Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martine.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, I'm Tom Martino. You're Troubleshooter. We're trying to solve problems.

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<v Speaker 4>I apologize to Beverly. She's boon waiting so long. Beverly.

1938
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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry we had these other issues come up. Now, Sue,

1939
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<v Speaker 4>I haven't forgotten about you in the probate and the conservator.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to talk about that. And then Bruce wants

1941
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<v Speaker 4>to talk about a Chevy Equinox. He called in two

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<v Speaker 4>weeks about ago. Hey, Beverly, what's going on with your

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<v Speaker 4>Maytag washer? I heard that the Maytag repairman is the

1944
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<v Speaker 4>lonely That's not true.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I bought it on May second.

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<v Speaker 4>Of this year, Yes, of this year, okay.

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<v Speaker 10>May second, And it was fine until about a month

1948
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<v Speaker 10>ago and it started not washing and so forth.

1949
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<v Speaker 8>I went into Lowe's.

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<v Speaker 10>Last week they gave me put in may Tig repair.

1951
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<v Speaker 10>There were six people that came up in the area.

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<v Speaker 10>I caught off six of them, and they said they

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<v Speaker 10>do not do warranty work, that I had to pay

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<v Speaker 10>up front.

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<v Speaker 4>Why I called wait, wait, wait wait, it's under warranty.

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<v Speaker 10>Though, right, well, it's kind a one year warranty. I

1957
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<v Speaker 10>did not buy an extended warrant.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand, but when and but you said you bought

1959
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<v Speaker 4>it this year.

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<v Speaker 10>Right May second?

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01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:50.079
<v Speaker 4>Yes, well, then it's under warranty until next May.

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<v Speaker 8>Right right?

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<v Speaker 10>But the six people that I called under may may

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<v Speaker 10>Tig Repair in.

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<v Speaker 20>Denver, I wouldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 10>They do not They do not do warranty work. I

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<v Speaker 10>have to pay up front.

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<v Speaker 4>But then do you get reimbursed? You did they say

1969
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<v Speaker 4>you would be reimbursed or what?

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<v Speaker 10>They did not know?

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<v Speaker 4>And did you call Maytag? I would call Maytag and

1972
01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:16.199
<v Speaker 4>say I have a washer under warranty. I don't want

1973
01:48:16.239 --> 01:48:17.399
<v Speaker 4>to pay up front.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, That's what I did. Next because Maytig is owned

1975
01:48:21.960 --> 01:48:27.399
<v Speaker 10>by Whirlpool, so I called may Tig and they wanted

1976
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<v Speaker 10>to know the course, the serial number, model number, and all.

1977
01:48:30.199 --> 01:48:32.960
<v Speaker 10>I gave them all that it was. I did not

1978
01:48:33.039 --> 01:48:35.840
<v Speaker 10>get to speak to a live person after I put

1979
01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:38.920
<v Speaker 10>in the serial number and the model number, and they

1980
01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:42.239
<v Speaker 10>asked me if I had the extended warranty. I said no,

1981
01:48:42.640 --> 01:48:43.600
<v Speaker 10>and they said.

1982
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<v Speaker 23>They just disconnected.

1983
01:48:46.399 --> 01:48:48.680
<v Speaker 10>I called them three times and it just disconnects.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, wait, where did you Where did you buy it, Beverly,

1985
01:48:53.319 --> 01:48:56.479
<v Speaker 4>Where did you buy it? Well, they need to help you.

1986
01:48:56.520 --> 01:48:57.640
<v Speaker 4>What did Low say?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, the gentleman had had quite a bit of experience.

1988
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<v Speaker 10>He had worked for LG and a couple of others

1989
01:49:05.880 --> 01:49:08.600
<v Speaker 10>for the twenty five thirty years. He said he never

1990
01:49:08.640 --> 01:49:11.079
<v Speaker 10>heard of such a thing. He thought that I could

1991
01:49:11.119 --> 01:49:13.079
<v Speaker 10>just go and get someone from here to do the

1992
01:49:13.119 --> 01:49:17.800
<v Speaker 10>warranty work. So I called Whirlpool because that's who Wills maintained. Right,

1993
01:49:17.920 --> 01:49:19.760
<v Speaker 10>the same thing. They said, if you don't have any

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01:49:19.880 --> 01:49:22.760
<v Speaker 10>sended warny plan, we do not We do not take

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<v Speaker 10>care of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you got a normal warranty. You got a normal warranty.

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<v Speaker 4>I would take I would I would make no. What

1998
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<v Speaker 4>are the symptoms, by the way, how is it acting up?

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<v Speaker 10>It's one of these with the sensor on it, which

2000
01:49:38.279 --> 01:49:41.640
<v Speaker 10>I didn't really like. It locks, and it locks the

2001
01:49:41.720 --> 01:49:46.199
<v Speaker 10>lid before. Well, then the sensor weighs the.

2002
01:49:46.039 --> 01:49:51.279
<v Speaker 4>Water and it adjusts the load right exactly.

2003
01:49:51.800 --> 01:49:54.199
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and it does not lock, So therefore will I'm

2004
01:49:54.239 --> 01:49:55.439
<v Speaker 10>not go and watch.

2005
01:49:55.520 --> 01:49:58.159
<v Speaker 4>And the reason it doesn't lock is because they can't

2006
01:49:58.199 --> 01:49:59.279
<v Speaker 4>get the load right right.

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<v Speaker 10>I guess the sensor must be off or something.

2008
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<v Speaker 4>But in the beginning when it did work, here's what happens.

2009
01:50:06.680 --> 01:50:09.600
<v Speaker 4>You hear a click, and then it goes, and then

2010
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<v Speaker 4>it goes and it moves back and forth, it shifts

2011
01:50:13.319 --> 01:50:15.479
<v Speaker 4>the load, and then all of a sudden it goes

2012
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<v Speaker 4>on and you hear.

2013
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<v Speaker 10>The water right exactly. And that's what won't happen.

2014
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, And I'll tell you I think I know what's

2015
01:50:22.039 --> 01:50:25.600
<v Speaker 4>going on, and I'm not going to charge you. No, Seriously,

2016
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, and I'm not entirely sure it's a

2017
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<v Speaker 4>warranty issue. It sounds to me like a leveling issue

2018
01:50:32.359 --> 01:50:35.159
<v Speaker 4>of the of the washer. It'll level the load to

2019
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:40.000
<v Speaker 4>a certain extent, but if the washer becomes unlevel, or

2020
01:50:40.039 --> 01:50:42.520
<v Speaker 4>the screws on the bottom in the in the legs,

2021
01:50:42.560 --> 01:50:45.760
<v Speaker 4>if that thing is off too much, it will not

2022
01:50:45.960 --> 01:50:49.119
<v Speaker 4>level the load at all. It because you're beyond what

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01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:53.800
<v Speaker 4>the sensor can do. I'm suggesting that's probably. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what it sounds like to me because it didn't

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<v Speaker 4>happen from the beginning. The up in your place.

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<v Speaker 10>Low has sent someone out to do that, an installer,

2027
01:51:08.560 --> 01:51:10.439
<v Speaker 10>and they installed it for them.

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<v Speaker 4>And did the guy when he did he use a

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<v Speaker 4>level to level it.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm not sure I can try and level and see

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<v Speaker 10>if it's level.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but but you should. And what you do is

2034
01:51:23.319 --> 01:51:26.439
<v Speaker 4>do it when it's off obviously, and you level, just

2035
01:51:26.479 --> 01:51:29.399
<v Speaker 4>see if it's level. If it's not level, I'm telling

2036
01:51:29.439 --> 01:51:34.680
<v Speaker 4>you something. It's not gonna level itself. The load will do.

2037
01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:40.039
<v Speaker 4>All that's for is is shifting load inside not but

2038
01:51:40.119 --> 01:51:42.560
<v Speaker 4>if it's too far off and it can't shift enough,

2039
01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:47.399
<v Speaker 4>it won't lock and it won't turn on. I mean,

2040
01:51:47.439 --> 01:51:50.600
<v Speaker 4>I had this happen to me. But do you have

2041
01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:55.479
<v Speaker 4>anyone that you know that could help you level it

2042
01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:56.560
<v Speaker 4>if it's not level?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh?

2044
01:51:58.520 --> 01:52:02.079
<v Speaker 4>My son? Okay? Is your son handy or is he pain.

2045
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<v Speaker 3>Disney?

2046
01:52:04.640 --> 01:52:06.399
<v Speaker 4>Is your son handy?

2047
01:52:06.840 --> 01:52:07.920
<v Speaker 10>Yes, he's very handy.

2048
01:52:08.079 --> 01:52:12.199
<v Speaker 4>Okay, did you tell him what was going on? I did?

2049
01:52:12.560 --> 01:52:13.560
<v Speaker 4>And what did he say?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, that was before I went to Low's and found

2051
01:52:17.560 --> 01:52:19.439
<v Speaker 10>out all this. I was on the phone all day

2052
01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:21.239
<v Speaker 10>yesterday trying to find.

2053
01:52:21.079 --> 01:52:24.239
<v Speaker 4>Did anyone suggest to you it could be a leveling problem?

2054
01:52:25.439 --> 01:52:25.640
<v Speaker 3>No?

2055
01:52:25.800 --> 01:52:28.399
<v Speaker 10>I didn't get to speak to any live person yesterday.

2056
01:52:28.720 --> 01:52:30.399
<v Speaker 10>Every number that I called.

2057
01:52:30.119 --> 01:52:33.640
<v Speaker 8>It was a It was a It was just.

2058
01:52:33.800 --> 01:52:36.880
<v Speaker 10>An animated voice. I didn't get to speak with any

2059
01:52:36.920 --> 01:52:41.720
<v Speaker 10>live person anywhere. They just hung up after saying do

2060
01:52:41.760 --> 01:52:44.159
<v Speaker 10>you have Plan one or Plan B? Which of the two?

2061
01:52:45.039 --> 01:52:47.319
<v Speaker 10>I did not find it terrible?

2062
01:52:47.720 --> 01:52:48.199
<v Speaker 8>I said no.

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01:52:48.359 --> 01:52:50.520
<v Speaker 10>And then when I said no and it disconnected.

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01:52:50.680 --> 01:52:53.880
<v Speaker 4>All right, Yeah, we're going to do.

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01:52:54.199 --> 01:52:56.319
<v Speaker 10>Got a year warranty from the factory.

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<v Speaker 4>When you went to Low's, was there any one there

2067
01:53:00.359 --> 01:53:00.960
<v Speaker 4>you could talk to?

2068
01:53:02.359 --> 01:53:05.359
<v Speaker 10>Yes, the gentleman, like I said, there was quite He had.

2069
01:53:05.199 --> 01:53:07.279
<v Speaker 4>Been do you have do you have a name of

2070
01:53:07.319 --> 01:53:08.239
<v Speaker 4>anyone at Low's?

2071
01:53:09.479 --> 01:53:11.720
<v Speaker 10>Yes, Rex was the one that I talked to.

2072
01:53:11.920 --> 01:53:14.319
<v Speaker 4>And do you have a plate? Okay? And which Low?

2073
01:53:14.479 --> 01:53:16.119
<v Speaker 4>Which loads? Did you buy it from?

2074
01:53:17.600 --> 01:53:17.840
<v Speaker 25>Over?

2075
01:53:17.920 --> 01:53:18.960
<v Speaker 10>Off of a rap hole?

2076
01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:20.560
<v Speaker 4>Okay? A wrap hole?

2077
01:53:20.560 --> 01:53:20.840
<v Speaker 7>And what.

2078
01:53:22.479 --> 01:53:23.640
<v Speaker 10>I think it's a hole?

2079
01:53:23.920 --> 01:53:25.720
<v Speaker 7>And is it Dayton?

2080
01:53:25.760 --> 01:53:28.479
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know if it's on Dayton, is it.

2081
01:53:28.680 --> 01:53:30.840
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's over, it's right across room.

2082
01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:35.399
<v Speaker 4>Why don't you stop in there for her? Talk to Rex?

2083
01:53:37.319 --> 01:53:41.600
<v Speaker 4>Is that where where you are? Here's what I want

2084
01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:44.840
<v Speaker 4>to do, Beverly. I want you to talk first to

2085
01:53:44.840 --> 01:53:48.239
<v Speaker 4>your son and just ask him if he could check

2086
01:53:48.680 --> 01:53:52.279
<v Speaker 4>to see if your washer is level, and if he

2087
01:53:52.359 --> 01:53:55.479
<v Speaker 4>could adjust the legs if it's not level, to make

2088
01:53:55.520 --> 01:54:00.680
<v Speaker 4>it level. Okay. If it is level, perfectly level, we're

2089
01:54:00.760 --> 01:54:03.560
<v Speaker 4>gonna go into We're gonna call lows that Lows should

2090
01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:06.359
<v Speaker 4>not leave you hanging like this. They should intercede if

2091
01:54:06.399 --> 01:54:11.159
<v Speaker 4>you're having this much trouble. And Deputy Doc, I'm gonna

2092
01:54:11.159 --> 01:54:14.079
<v Speaker 4>give this to one of my deputies. We call him

2093
01:54:14.079 --> 01:54:17.319
<v Speaker 4>our volunteer of dubb Doc. He's gonna help you. We

2094
01:54:17.399 --> 01:54:22.439
<v Speaker 4>will help you get you know, get some attention. Okay.

2095
01:54:22.640 --> 01:54:24.239
<v Speaker 10>And that sounds okay.

2096
01:54:24.319 --> 01:54:26.199
<v Speaker 4>You hang on Dere First, I want you to check

2097
01:54:26.199 --> 01:54:28.960
<v Speaker 4>with your son though, and and Doc will even talk

2098
01:54:28.960 --> 01:54:31.399
<v Speaker 4>to your son if if he has any questions on

2099
01:54:31.399 --> 01:54:33.840
<v Speaker 4>what we're talking about. So hold on, Kitschina, get this

2100
01:54:33.960 --> 01:54:37.880
<v Speaker 4>information from Beverly for Doc. Three oh three seven one

2101
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<v Speaker 4>three talk seven one three eight two five five. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>this is Uh, I'm sorry. People have to be more attentive.

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<v Speaker 4>the Chevy Equinox. What the heck you called in a

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<v Speaker 4>while ago, Bruce, I'm trying to find your other call,

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<v Speaker 4>So let's talk about that. We got our experts here,

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<v Speaker 4>and uh let's talk Bruce, what's going on with your equinox?

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, guys called you guys on a week a couple

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<v Speaker 9>of weeks ago. But I had a twenty fourteen Chevy

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<v Speaker 9>Equinox one hundred twenty five thousand miles and when it's

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<v Speaker 9>very hot out I live in Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, fuel it was a fuel delivery problem, yep, exactly.

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<v Speaker 9>And uh so we thought it was either the pump

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<v Speaker 9>in a tank or the hYP right fuel pump. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>And so I was looking, I was thinking it was

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<v Speaker 9>in the tank. I thought it was that pump. So

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<v Speaker 9>I'm looking these pumps, up online and my wife goes

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<v Speaker 9>on the chat GPT figure this out. I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 9>why why doesn't my car start after I fill it up?

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<v Speaker 14>On hot days? And chat GPT came back and.

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<v Speaker 9>Said, check your EBAP purge solenoid that's on. It could

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<v Speaker 9>be one or two things. There's one on the motor

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<v Speaker 9>and there's one at the tank. And so I changed

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<v Speaker 9>the one on the motor.

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<v Speaker 14>It was twenty eight bucks.

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<v Speaker 9>Problem went away, never had a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>I love Chat. I ought to invite Chat on the

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<v Speaker 4>show on car Days.

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<v Speaker 9>Crazy. There's crazy that I came up with that.

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<v Speaker 6>So wow, oh yeah, that's actually a pretty common failure.

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<v Speaker 14>It is.

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<v Speaker 6>It is so pretty much so.

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<v Speaker 4>So that I'm so happy that that worked out for you.

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<v Speaker 13>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, people use Chat for their car symptoms. I had, Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>what did I say? Let's see what did I put in?

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<v Speaker 4>One time I was having excessive smoke and leakage and

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<v Speaker 4>some low pressure and they said, how old are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just kidding. I like Chat, though, I should have

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<v Speaker 4>said on my car three all three seven, one, three

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<v Speaker 4>eight two five five Back to Sue, Sue, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to wait, so I had some time here. Let

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01:58:27.079 --> 01:58:31.399
<v Speaker 4>let's talk about this, okay. In we were having this

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<v Speaker 4>discussion off the air, and I want to have it

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<v Speaker 4>with you, and we had it with our attorney. Whenever

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<v Speaker 4>in a state, I just want to say this upfront, whenever,

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<v Speaker 4>in a state where people don't get along, whether no

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01:58:41.680 --> 01:58:43.960
<v Speaker 4>matter who it is, if the heirs don't get along

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<v Speaker 4>and they hire a conservator, you can kiss goodbye about

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<v Speaker 4>a third of the estate or more. Because conservators, what's that?

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<v Speaker 15>I know?

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<v Speaker 8>Believe me, it's been a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep. As soon as they take.

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<v Speaker 8>Over, treated like a family dog because I'm the youngest.

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<v Speaker 4>And here's the deal, sue. When a conservator takes over,

2180
01:59:10.239 --> 01:59:13.760
<v Speaker 4>they don't think in their minds, how do I take

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<v Speaker 4>care of this estate for the heirs? They don't think

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<v Speaker 4>how do I take care of the person? Here's what

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<v Speaker 4>they think. And I don't give a good damn who's

2184
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<v Speaker 4>listening and who gets offended? If you're a conservator, the

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01:59:27.159 --> 01:59:29.960
<v Speaker 4>very first thing they think, how much is in it?

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01:59:30.079 --> 01:59:31.359
<v Speaker 8>Much money can I make?

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly? That is the way of the world. So they

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<v Speaker 4>wanted I've.

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<v Speaker 8>Never wanted it to go there? See how to will

2190
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<v Speaker 8>they undid the will?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know why they did they claim there

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<v Speaker 4>was undue influence. Is that why they undid the will? Uh?

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<v Speaker 8>No, they did undid I really don't know how they

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01:59:52.159 --> 01:59:53.119
<v Speaker 8>undid the will or why?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, only the court would let them, Only the court

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<v Speaker 4>would let him do that. Did they undo the will

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<v Speaker 4>after the death or before death?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 8>It was after the death, because you know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 8>even get the deed until last year. My dad passed

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<v Speaker 8>away twenty twenty one. Yesterday was three years that he

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<v Speaker 8>has been gone.

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<v Speaker 4>How many errors are there?

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02:00:12.600 --> 02:00:12.680
<v Speaker 17>Is?

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<v Speaker 25>You?

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<v Speaker 4>And who else?

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02:00:14.840 --> 02:00:19.000
<v Speaker 8>Me and a sister in California? Sister here and a

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<v Speaker 8>brother that lives here.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's four of you and the two that.

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<v Speaker 8>Lived here split one of the houses the cost of

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02:00:25.039 --> 02:00:28.279
<v Speaker 8>the house. And then my dad gave me this house

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<v Speaker 8>when my son, whom is forty, was five months old. Okay,

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02:00:33.159 --> 02:00:34.880
<v Speaker 8>And they made me paid for this house, but he

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<v Speaker 8>charged me a lot more.

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<v Speaker 4>Sue, because every.

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<v Speaker 8>Time I hit on a point. Sue, madam raised the

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<v Speaker 8>price of the house.

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<v Speaker 14>Sue.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's what counts. Okay, If there's four of you, do

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<v Speaker 4>the other three? Are they satisfied? Is the conservator gone now?

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02:00:50.880 --> 02:00:50.960
<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 8>He is still here causing problems. He misappropriate.

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02:00:55.800 --> 02:00:59.840
<v Speaker 4>Wait after three years. After three years, you still have this.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, sir.

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02:01:02.680 --> 02:01:06.520
<v Speaker 8>And he did not do what he promised the repairs

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<v Speaker 8>on my home. He broke his piduciary duties to me.

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<v Speaker 8>He has done nothing but a disservice to me, because,

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<v Speaker 8>like I said, there's twelve, fourteen and sixteen year difference

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02:01:19.159 --> 02:01:20.359
<v Speaker 8>between me and the other three.

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<v Speaker 4>So, okay, you're giving me way too much information. I

2231
02:01:22.720 --> 02:01:25.520
<v Speaker 4>need to know this. Are the other three agreeing with

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<v Speaker 4>each other?

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<v Speaker 8>Of course they started it and my brother just goes

2234
02:01:29.960 --> 02:01:31.199
<v Speaker 8>along with it because he's scared.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So the other three are not objecting to the conservator?

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02:01:36.119 --> 02:01:38.479
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, okay, then I'm going to tell you something

2237
02:01:38.520 --> 02:01:44.880
<v Speaker 4>to sue the will that in the will were you

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02:01:44.920 --> 02:01:46.359
<v Speaker 4>supposed to get an equal portion?

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02:01:47.880 --> 02:01:49.840
<v Speaker 8>Yes, sir, we were all supposed to get a quarter,

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<v Speaker 8>and that has not been done yet either.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So are you claiming are you claiming the are

2242
02:01:58.600 --> 02:02:04.840
<v Speaker 4>you claiming the concer? Is uh siding with the other

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02:02:04.960 --> 02:02:06.479
<v Speaker 4>three unjustly?

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02:02:08.319 --> 02:02:08.560
<v Speaker 19>Yes?

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02:02:09.560 --> 02:02:12.039
<v Speaker 4>Why?

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<v Speaker 8>Because he has left me out of every decision. When

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02:02:15.399 --> 02:02:18.239
<v Speaker 8>I said no to the sale of my father's properties,

2248
02:02:18.239 --> 02:02:20.479
<v Speaker 8>he was in real estate and he had some rental properties.

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<v Speaker 8>He did not want them sold. Whenever anybody objected, it

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02:02:24.760 --> 02:02:26.760
<v Speaker 8>was supposed to go back to court, no matter who

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02:02:26.800 --> 02:02:29.520
<v Speaker 8>it was. It never reached that point because they went

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02:02:29.560 --> 02:02:32.399
<v Speaker 8>over my head like, don't worry about her. She's just

2253
02:02:32.439 --> 02:02:34.680
<v Speaker 8>a family dog, and we're just going to deal with

2254
02:02:34.720 --> 02:02:37.800
<v Speaker 8>this ourselves. Okay, Well that's how it made me feel

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<v Speaker 8>like I've been.

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02:02:38.279 --> 02:02:40.880
<v Speaker 4>Both who said he who said it was supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>go back to court.

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02:02:43.960 --> 02:02:46.800
<v Speaker 8>The conservator said if anybody in the courts when we

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02:02:46.880 --> 02:02:49.399
<v Speaker 8>had the meeting on the phone with the courts via

2260
02:02:50.640 --> 02:02:53.720
<v Speaker 8>you know and you call in. Yeah, they said that

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02:02:54.079 --> 02:02:58.720
<v Speaker 8>if anybody objected to anything in the will, it would

2262
02:02:58.760 --> 02:02:59.800
<v Speaker 8>have to go back to court.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 8>Funny how that never happened though, Okay, funny how the probate,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, conservators don't have a boss. That is not fair,

2266
02:03:09.640 --> 02:03:10.119
<v Speaker 8>that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>Why But actually, though, the problem here is if the

2268
02:03:15.319 --> 02:03:20.520
<v Speaker 4>conservator was doing things against all of your wishes, you

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02:03:20.680 --> 02:03:24.199
<v Speaker 4>guys could all get together and remove the conservator.

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02:03:25.640 --> 02:03:28.079
<v Speaker 8>That's too late, now, way too late. Well, ye need

2271
02:03:28.079 --> 02:03:32.319
<v Speaker 8>a lawyer because he breached his fight, Sue.

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02:03:32.359 --> 02:03:35.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to tell you you do need an attorney

2273
02:03:35.079 --> 02:03:38.039
<v Speaker 4>because you may or may not have a good case

2274
02:03:38.319 --> 02:03:42.119
<v Speaker 4>after they review it, just because you disagree with a

2275
02:03:42.159 --> 02:03:46.439
<v Speaker 4>conservator doesn't mean they breach their duty. I'm not saying

2276
02:03:46.520 --> 02:03:49.439
<v Speaker 4>they didn't. I'm just saying whether you agree or not

2277
02:03:49.640 --> 02:03:52.439
<v Speaker 4>is not the standard they use. They use a.

2278
02:03:54.159 --> 02:03:57.279
<v Speaker 8>So that's why I know I have a Give me, just.

2279
02:03:57.239 --> 02:03:59.640
<v Speaker 4>Give me one element of proof that you have that

2280
02:03:59.680 --> 02:04:01.000
<v Speaker 4>he eached one element.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, he was supposed to upkeep these properties until we

2282
02:04:07.479 --> 02:04:10.680
<v Speaker 8>got the deeds, they were still considered to be rental properties.

2283
02:04:12.119 --> 02:04:14.600
<v Speaker 8>He did not fix the plumbing in my home and

2284
02:04:14.640 --> 02:04:17.439
<v Speaker 8>now it's wreaking havoc. And he did not fix the

2285
02:04:17.479 --> 02:04:19.680
<v Speaker 8>electrical panel that he said he was going to do,

2286
02:04:20.359 --> 02:04:22.399
<v Speaker 8>and we're having problems with that now as well.

2287
02:04:22.640 --> 02:04:26.119
<v Speaker 4>And there is a written document that says the estate

2288
02:04:26.239 --> 02:04:27.680
<v Speaker 4>is supposed to upkeep the house.

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02:04:29.199 --> 02:04:32.399
<v Speaker 8>Well, that's the conservatives job. Is a piduciary is supposed

2290
02:04:32.439 --> 02:04:36.439
<v Speaker 8>to upkeep the rental properties. Okay, keep them in amitting standards.

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02:04:36.560 --> 02:04:38.680
<v Speaker 4>Sue, that's not going to be that's not going to

2292
02:04:38.680 --> 02:04:41.319
<v Speaker 4>be considered fraud. Okay. What you need to do is

2293
02:04:41.319 --> 02:04:43.399
<v Speaker 4>you're right, you do need to talk to an attorney.

2294
02:04:43.800 --> 02:04:46.920
<v Speaker 4>But I'm going to warn you if an attorney neglects

2295
02:04:46.920 --> 02:04:49.560
<v Speaker 4>to take the case, that's going to be your signal

2296
02:04:49.600 --> 02:04:51.920
<v Speaker 4>that is not a good case. Now they're not going

2297
02:04:52.000 --> 02:04:54.840
<v Speaker 4>to work on contingency. Do you have a retainer for

2298
02:04:54.920 --> 02:04:55.640
<v Speaker 4>an attorney.

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02:04:57.119 --> 02:04:59.680
<v Speaker 8>Well, I'm going to have to come up with them somehow,

2300
02:04:59.720 --> 02:05:02.520
<v Speaker 8>because if my dad was in the military, surgeon.

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<v Speaker 4>Sue, Sue, all of that, Sue, Sue, all of that

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02:05:07.119 --> 02:05:09.359
<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter right now. I'm trying to find an attorney

2303
02:05:09.359 --> 02:05:11.680
<v Speaker 4>for you. What I'm saying is this, I want you

2304
02:05:11.800 --> 02:05:15.760
<v Speaker 4>to know what you're facing because the other three are

2305
02:05:15.840 --> 02:05:19.520
<v Speaker 4>against you on air, Sue, you don't have to say

2306
02:05:19.520 --> 02:05:23.760
<v Speaker 4>too much. I'm telling you based on what you're telling me.

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02:05:24.279 --> 02:05:29.920
<v Speaker 4>Because the Conservator and the other three speak in unison

2308
02:05:30.399 --> 02:05:34.039
<v Speaker 4>and you're the odd man out. You're going to have

2309
02:05:34.199 --> 02:05:39.079
<v Speaker 4>an up hill battle when you go to court. There's

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<v Speaker 4>got to be hard evidence of fraud and breach, hard evidence,

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02:05:46.000 --> 02:05:50.439
<v Speaker 4>not your opinion. I'm not. That's all I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 4>And here's what I'm going to tell you. I want

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<v Speaker 4>when people call me, I think I do them as

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<v Speaker 4>service by telling them the truth. It's going to cost

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<v Speaker 4>you a five thousand dollars retainer upfront, okay, with any

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<v Speaker 4>estate attorney, five thousand dollars upfront, and then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have to go through the motions. My prediction is if

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<v Speaker 4>you are going to challenge the will and challenge what

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<v Speaker 4>the conservator did, you're looking at a minimum of twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five thousand dollars in legal proceedings.

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<v Speaker 8>Those right, he tried to sue my son, Okay, and

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<v Speaker 8>he lost that case.

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<v Speaker 4>Sue You may win, but I'm just trying to prepare you.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna have to have five thousand upfront, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>probably gonna cost you another twenty just to get to court.

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<v Speaker 4>That's twenty five thousand dollars. So what I'm hoping is

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<v Speaker 4>if you win, it's going to be worth twenty five

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<v Speaker 4>thousand to you because you will not be awarded attorneys fees.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just telling you most likely you will not be Now,

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to call attorneys, I have suggestions for you, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan McKenzie is one of them. He was on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm going to give you the number, and Dan

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<v Speaker 4>McKenzie will do it by the hour, and he'll give

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<v Speaker 4>you an estimate, but it's going to be by the hour.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a smaller firm, he's a good guy. It's eight

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<v Speaker 4>three three COO Plans plans, Yes, co plans. P l

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<v Speaker 4>A N s that he's local, but that's his number

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<v Speaker 4>eight three three co plans. Now the other attorneys, I

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<v Speaker 4>recommend that you check with talk to both of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's what I like about these guys, Kiel and Park.

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<v Speaker 4>I like both of them, Killan Park and Mackenzie. But

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<v Speaker 4>with Keil and Park, they will give you a flat

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<v Speaker 4>rate up front on what this case may cost. It

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<v Speaker 4>will never go above that, it could go below it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>they're at nine, they're at nine seven zero eight one

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<v Speaker 4>eight eight eight. I wish you the best, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just saying you got a real problem here because of

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<v Speaker 4>the insurmountable and not insurmountable, the odds against you. When

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<v Speaker 4>you have the other air siding with a conservator, it's very,

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<v Speaker 4>very difficult. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer

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<v Speaker 4>you're content. Time for an insurance check up, free no

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<v Speaker 4>obligation comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage

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<v Speaker 4>at dozens of insurance companies find out now three O

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<v Speaker 4>three seven to seven to one help. You'll think you're

2356
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<v Speaker 4>his only customer when you choose Frank durand the real

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<v Speaker 4>estate man dot com to list your home with Remax

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<v Speaker 4>Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 25>Time.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Martine your shobble shooter three oh three seven to

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<v Speaker 4>one to three talks seven one three eight two five five. Bruce,

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on with you? Bruce?

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<v Speaker 15>Thanks for taking my call?

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<v Speaker 4>Tom, Yes, sir, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah? At my group in's apartment complex, she isn't getting mail.

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<v Speaker 15>So I went to the post office and said, what's

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02:09:20.359 --> 02:09:23.680
<v Speaker 15>going on. I talked to the manager and she said,

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<v Speaker 15>they've been so many break ins. Did they take all

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02:09:26.760 --> 02:09:30.439
<v Speaker 15>the mail going there? They take it in to the

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02:09:30.479 --> 02:09:34.520
<v Speaker 15>complex management office and give it to them, And they

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<v Speaker 15>told them.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, wait a minute, so they don't deliver

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02:09:37.399 --> 02:09:41.359
<v Speaker 4>mail anymore. They just go to the office. Correct, All

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<v Speaker 4>of the mail in the complex is delivered inside the office.

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02:09:45.439 --> 02:09:47.119
<v Speaker 15>Correct, instead of the mailboxes.

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02:09:47.279 --> 02:09:48.840
<v Speaker 4>And then you guys have to go in there to

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<v Speaker 4>get your mail.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, except one problem. They didn't notify anyone that that

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<v Speaker 15>was happening. And this has been going on for probably

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<v Speaker 15>three weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, and wait a minute. So people thought

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02:10:01.319 --> 02:10:04.600
<v Speaker 4>their mail just stopped coming exactly.

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02:10:04.880 --> 02:10:07.880
<v Speaker 15>Come on, yeah, and so the.

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02:10:08.079 --> 02:10:11.840
<v Speaker 4>Well who didn't notify him? Like, whose idea was.

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02:10:11.800 --> 02:10:16.159
<v Speaker 15>It to drop off the mail at the management office? Yes,

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02:10:17.279 --> 02:10:18.399
<v Speaker 15>the post office.

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<v Speaker 4>Why did the post office? Wait a minute, why would

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<v Speaker 4>the post office do that?

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<v Speaker 15>Because there's probably three and eighty units in this complex

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02:10:29.960 --> 02:10:32.079
<v Speaker 15>and the boxes have been broken into.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, I got it, so Bruce, But when when

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02:10:35.119 --> 02:10:38.279
<v Speaker 4>they drop off mail for three hundred and eighty units

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02:10:38.560 --> 02:10:40.119
<v Speaker 4>do they separate them?

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02:10:40.760 --> 02:10:43.199
<v Speaker 15>Yes, everyone has their own box for their.

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02:10:43.359 --> 02:10:46.199
<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, so it's just they just moved the boxes inside.

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02:10:46.479 --> 02:10:49.800
<v Speaker 4>But management never put out a memo saying your mail's

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<v Speaker 4>in here from now on.

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<v Speaker 15>Correct.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you went by your mailbox, you just saw

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02:10:55.039 --> 02:10:57.800
<v Speaker 4>it was empty. There wasn't even there wasn't even a

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<v Speaker 4>note saying fu. I mean, you just didn't have mail.

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02:11:01.359 --> 02:11:01.800
<v Speaker 15>Correct.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, No one can be that stupid. All they

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02:11:05.640 --> 02:11:07.319
<v Speaker 4>had to do was put a sign up on the

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02:11:07.359 --> 02:11:11.119
<v Speaker 4>mailbox is saying come on into the office.

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<v Speaker 15>They didn't, And they have a daily email that goes

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<v Speaker 15>out and never notified anything.

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<v Speaker 4>I find it so shocking. Is this run by Republicans

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02:11:20.800 --> 02:11:25.119
<v Speaker 4>or Democrats? I'm just kidding, Bruce. Listen, listen, listen, man, really,

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02:11:25.680 --> 02:11:27.840
<v Speaker 4>so what did that do for that three weeks?

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<v Speaker 15>There's apparently a pile of mail in the management's office

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<v Speaker 15>and the biggest office.

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<v Speaker 4>Did they put up a sign after that? Have you insisted?

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<v Speaker 4>Have you insisted they put up a sign or notified people?

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<v Speaker 15>Well, this just happened yesterday. When I went to the

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<v Speaker 15>post office and said what's going on? The manager said okay.

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<v Speaker 15>They also advised them if they don't correct that within

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02:11:51.239 --> 02:11:54.880
<v Speaker 15>a specific date, they will return any mail that goes

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02:11:54.920 --> 02:11:56.960
<v Speaker 15>to that address return to sender.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mean, what do they have to do?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get you.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, because the h the mailboxes for each year isn't secured.

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<v Speaker 15>They've been broken into multiple times, so they dump all

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<v Speaker 15>the mail with the manager.

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<v Speaker 4>You told me that, and then inside they have mailboxes.

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02:12:15.640 --> 02:12:17.760
<v Speaker 15>No, no, no, they have a pile of mail. There's

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<v Speaker 15>no mailboxes in the management.

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<v Speaker 4>You said there was, man, you said there were mailboxes

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<v Speaker 4>inside the office.

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<v Speaker 15>I did not, Tommy, Well you did.

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<v Speaker 4>You said each one has their own mailbox inside the office.

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<v Speaker 4>You said that not ten minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 15>Okay, Well you misunderstood me. There's a building that.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you play that back? Dragon? Please? You said, yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they separate it and everyone has their own box in

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02:12:41.239 --> 02:12:41.880
<v Speaker 4>the office.

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<v Speaker 15>The mail people did until they could deliver into the

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02:12:46.000 --> 02:12:48.319
<v Speaker 15>mailboxes because they're getting broken in.

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<v Speaker 4>So when they deliver I'm going to ask this one

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<v Speaker 4>more time. When they deliver to the office, it's in

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02:12:54.800 --> 02:12:59.680
<v Speaker 4>one big pile. Correct, And so the only way people

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02:12:59.760 --> 02:13:02.560
<v Speaker 4>can get their mail is if they went through the

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02:13:02.760 --> 02:13:03.600
<v Speaker 4>entire pile.

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02:13:04.640 --> 02:13:08.880
<v Speaker 15>Correct. And they've never notified anyone in the complex.

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02:13:08.960 --> 02:13:12.600
<v Speaker 4>Okay, well, they're actually breaking the law, you know.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, I'm glad to hear that. Also, Tom I wanted

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02:13:16.279 --> 02:13:19.239
<v Speaker 15>to add talking to the manager of the post office,

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02:13:19.479 --> 02:13:23.079
<v Speaker 15>they notified them. If they don't correct this, they will

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02:13:23.239 --> 02:13:25.560
<v Speaker 15>return to send her all the mail that they receive

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02:13:25.640 --> 02:13:28.119
<v Speaker 15>for that address for that complex.

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02:13:28.840 --> 02:13:32.159
<v Speaker 4>But so the complex has one address with a unit number,

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02:13:32.159 --> 02:13:34.279
<v Speaker 4>and that was that's what differentiates it.

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02:13:35.000 --> 02:13:35.439
<v Speaker 15>Correct.

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02:13:35.520 --> 02:13:37.800
<v Speaker 4>We need to call over there right away, I swear

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02:13:37.840 --> 02:13:40.359
<v Speaker 4>to God. We need to call this place. We need

2456
02:13:40.399 --> 02:13:44.000
<v Speaker 4>to call we need to call this apartment unit and

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02:13:44.159 --> 02:13:46.000
<v Speaker 4>this apartment house. What's the name of it. Well, I

2458
02:13:46.039 --> 02:13:47.479
<v Speaker 4>don't know if I even want it on the air.

2459
02:13:47.760 --> 02:13:50.479
<v Speaker 4>I want to. I want to. I really want to

2460
02:13:50.520 --> 02:13:53.119
<v Speaker 4>catch them in the act. I can't are you honest

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02:13:53.159 --> 02:13:56.920
<v Speaker 4>to God telling me that they're that stupid? First of all,

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02:13:56.960 --> 02:13:59.039
<v Speaker 4>the post office is stupid.

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02:13:58.600 --> 02:14:02.119
<v Speaker 15>Too well, I swear to God, Tom this is happening.

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02:14:03.760 --> 02:14:10.760
<v Speaker 4>I find this hard to believe, almost impossible to believe. Okay, okay,

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02:14:10.800 --> 02:14:14.399
<v Speaker 4>here's what I want you to do, Bruce Kaschina. Get

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02:14:14.439 --> 02:14:16.720
<v Speaker 4>the name of this apartment house off the air with

2467
02:14:16.840 --> 02:14:20.079
<v Speaker 4>the address. Get Bruce's phone number. We need to look

2468
02:14:20.119 --> 02:14:23.680
<v Speaker 4>into this. We need to look into this damn thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I even want to get video of the mail. I

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02:14:25.600 --> 02:14:27.119
<v Speaker 4>want to see what the hell there's gonna be.

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02:14:27.039 --> 02:14:29.319
<v Speaker 6>Like fores of mail stacked up.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been three weeks weeks in a freaking post of

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02:14:32.960 --> 02:14:36.760
<v Speaker 4>This is a major travesty, man, I'm serious. How many

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02:14:36.920 --> 02:14:43.199
<v Speaker 4>units come on, Bruce? They're they're dropping off three hundred

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02:14:43.199 --> 02:14:47.279
<v Speaker 4>and eighty units of mail in one office in a pile.

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02:14:48.199 --> 02:14:51.399
<v Speaker 15>That's what the manager of the post office for that

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02:14:51.600 --> 02:14:52.439
<v Speaker 15>zip code told me.

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02:14:52.840 --> 02:14:54.119
<v Speaker 4>Okay, but you didn't see it.

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02:14:56.520 --> 02:14:58.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I get a post I want to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Hold on, Bruce, hang on, I mean you, I don't

2481
02:15:01.680 --> 02:15:04.520
<v Speaker 4>think this guy's making up a story. I want you

2482
02:15:04.600 --> 02:15:07.880
<v Speaker 4>to give a Kachina the name and address. I chuse me.

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02:15:08.079 --> 02:15:11.520
<v Speaker 4>The address of the of this apartment complex. Okay, in

2484
02:15:11.560 --> 02:15:14.760
<v Speaker 4>the office. Then you give me your name and address

2485
02:15:14.760 --> 02:15:16.279
<v Speaker 4>and phone number. I want to talk to you off

2486
02:15:16.319 --> 02:15:19.920
<v Speaker 4>the air. I'm Tom Martino. Go with a sure thing

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2492
02:15:39.000 --> 02:15:41.640
<v Speaker 4>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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<v Speaker 4>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 4>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, you're a troubleshooter. Did

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02:15:57.199 --> 02:16:02.199
<v Speaker 4>you believe that story? I mean, I'm gonna check it out.

2497
02:16:02.239 --> 02:16:06.319
<v Speaker 4>Three hundred eighty units, Now, if each gets a few

2498
02:16:06.359 --> 02:16:08.079
<v Speaker 4>pieces of mail, let's just do the math.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, they gotta have fifty sixty boxes of mail minimum.

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<v Speaker 4>So did you do the mathough like three hundred eighty

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02:16:14.800 --> 02:16:16.640
<v Speaker 4>Let's just say three to eighty with an average of

2502
02:16:16.680 --> 02:16:21.920
<v Speaker 4>three pieces. Sure, three pieces, so eleven hundred and forty

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02:16:22.119 --> 02:16:25.720
<v Speaker 4>or okay, one thousand pieces a day times how many weeks?

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<v Speaker 6>Three eighteen days, six days, six days, eighteen sixteen, eighteen

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02:16:33.879 --> 02:16:35.079
<v Speaker 6>thousand pieces of mail.

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<v Speaker 4>Just sitting somewhere unsorted, ye, waiting for people. What if

2507
02:16:40.479 --> 02:16:44.079
<v Speaker 4>you have checks coming, you have bills? Do I mean?

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02:16:44.280 --> 02:16:47.200
<v Speaker 4>I almost, by the way me personally, I almost don't

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02:16:47.200 --> 02:16:50.040
<v Speaker 4>get any mail. I mean I don't get bills and

2510
02:16:50.079 --> 02:16:57.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't get checks. I mean everything's online. What I

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02:16:57.280 --> 02:16:59.440
<v Speaker 4>get the junk mail? Yeah, but that I don't care

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02:16:59.479 --> 02:17:00.680
<v Speaker 4>about him by the trash.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you read it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's exactly what I do. I go to the

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02:17:03.600 --> 02:17:09.159
<v Speaker 4>recycle bin with it. No, obviously, Yeah, you're right. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm wondering, though, if people depend on mail still for

2517
02:17:12.319 --> 02:17:15.879
<v Speaker 4>like their Social Security check or any other kind of check,

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<v Speaker 4>or if they have bills that come through the mail.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you guys have bills? Do you still get bills

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<v Speaker 4>to the mail? Jeff, No, no bills, Rodney? Do you

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit?

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<v Speaker 6>But you still have your doc?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you write checks and pay your bills? Do you

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<v Speaker 4>actually write.

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<v Speaker 18>I sit down every time, every tenth of the month

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<v Speaker 18>and write out checks to everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Get off my yard. I want to know where my

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<v Speaker 4>money goes. Get off my yard. Little what he writes

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<v Speaker 4>out his bills? Oh my god, did you know that

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<v Speaker 4>they got like electronic ways.

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<v Speaker 18>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you use your computer for that? I go on line.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even see the bills anymore. But that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>a problem too sometimes because I want to see a train.

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<v Speaker 18>Into one way or the other, and uh, I use

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<v Speaker 18>my apogus and I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Kevincal can share at an autotech dot com, jeffvic Transmissions

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<v Speaker 4>Denver dot com, Jeffarcars dot com. Ask for Rod Greer.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a great guy. We got all kinds of stuff happening,

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<v Speaker 4>but we're out of time. So remember, if you call

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<v Speaker 4>three oh three Martino, you'll get help. Really, just leave

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<v Speaker 4>your name and number three O three six two seven

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<v Speaker 4>eight four sixty six. Save all your problems for me.
