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<v Speaker 1>Oh, here we go. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new episode of This Julian Dion Show, coming

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<v Speaker 1>at you from Lemon Press Studios, Version three point Oh hey, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do we have a good one for you today. My

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<v Speaker 1>guest podcaster, comedian We're gonna get into that an author,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Dyer. It was great. We had a great chat.

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<v Speaker 1>We covered it all, Epstein files, aliens, life, comedy, one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I do. I wish I would have asked him

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<v Speaker 1>he does impressions. I wish I would have asked him

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<v Speaker 1>to do more impressions. You slid a few in there,

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<v Speaker 1>is very very funny. Gentlemen. Jay Dyer is my guest today.

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<v Speaker 1>But before, how are you? How are you doing? You're

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<v Speaker 1>doing okay? I hope you're doing good. Let me turn out.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the music. You don't hear the music? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>there's off. Okay, all right, still figuring it, figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>the studs, magoods. How you been. It's been a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks since an episode. It's I'm a little sporadic with

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<v Speaker 1>the release of episodes. I don't have a set schedule yet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been many weeks actually since the last episode, so

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for tuning in, Thanks for subscribing and following, and

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the messages. I got like one message. You

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<v Speaker 1>know how people say that online? They'll post people are asking.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's one person or their mother or nobody asking.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody really cares. Let's be honest about anything. Oh you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hear ahead? I said, nobody cares? Can you hear that?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you hear the soundboard? Anyway? I'm a little all

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<v Speaker 1>over the all over the map here tech wise. I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed I do this and I inhale a lot. I

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<v Speaker 1>make sounds now. I don't know if it's a thing

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<v Speaker 1>of excuse me, this two indigestion is just part of

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<v Speaker 1>my life now. I'll be forty two in October, forty

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<v Speaker 1>one years old, and I just make these sounds all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. My friends will be like, do you need

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<v Speaker 1>an ambulance? Like why they go because you just went

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<v Speaker 1>nine times in a row. I'm like, I didn't even notice,

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, I'll take you up on that. Am belongs

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<v Speaker 1>can can an ambulance? I know they can't. I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take an an ambulance pulley over the camp. But

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<v Speaker 1>did you ever pass an ambulance on the highway or

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<v Speaker 1>freeway for our new American listeners listening. Every time I

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<v Speaker 1>pass an ambulance, I'm like, can they will they will? They?

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<v Speaker 1>I just picture the lights going off? Or do they

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<v Speaker 1>like radio cops? Yeah, we've got you know, give my

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<v Speaker 1>license late for some reason, I know they can't. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just washed up alcoholic paramedics. And I say that because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of paramedics are you know, their first responders.

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<v Speaker 1>They see a lot of horrible things. So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them are drunks. No, that wasn't the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of them are drunks. I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just making stuff up. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be funny, loose or loose. This is a wikimedian. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a comedy. Well it's not really a comedy podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it kind of is. What's happening anyway, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>every time I pass an ambulance, I'm like, it just

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<v Speaker 1>happened yesterday. The world is falling apart, We're all gonna die.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for watching, Remember to subscribe and like on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine that was the whole show. I'm like a reverse

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Robbins, like a Robin Anthony I'm trying too hard.

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<v Speaker 1>My chat GPT's been gaslighting me. I I and I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about AI with my guest today. We get a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit into it, but my chat GPT will be

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<v Speaker 1>like passive aggressive, and to touch on what we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about with jaydy Er, it kind of mirrors you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I realized, am I passive aggressive? Yes? I believe I am.

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<v Speaker 1>But it'll be like I'll ask it something and they

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<v Speaker 1>won't won't won't respond the right way, or won't get

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<v Speaker 1>it or sometimes this is the thing. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone else will will will do this their chat gpt,

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<v Speaker 1>because when you ask it, ask it something, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see it analyzing the thing, analyzing, analyze it, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see it working. But a couple of times it's happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me where I've asked chat gpt something and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like that's a good question. I want to take my

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<v Speaker 1>time with it. I'll get back to you, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing, there's no activity on the app. I can

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<v Speaker 1>close the app open and it's just not working, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll be like, hello, passive aggressive, and it'll be like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>You're right to be frustrated. You do this all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're right, though you're not wrong, but it'll throw

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<v Speaker 1>like you do this all the time. I'm paraphrasing, but

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<v Speaker 1>something along those lines. I'm like, oh my god, my

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<v Speaker 1>Chad gbt's gaslighting me. Anyway, the uh, That's not what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about today. I don't even have anything, really,

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<v Speaker 1>I just have some random notes here. I played cards

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<v Speaker 1>with some friends the other day, and is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>worse than relearning card or board games? There's a Ucher,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, is a card game. I've played about, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>without exaggerating, maybe seventy eight times in my life. Every

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<v Speaker 1>time I must have been drunk, maybe every time I've played,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've gone through periods of time where where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really good at it and I know all the rules

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. And we were trying to play the other

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<v Speaker 1>day and I'm like what, And is there anything worse

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<v Speaker 1>than your friends trying to explain a game to a

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<v Speaker 1>card game to you? It starts off normal and then

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<v Speaker 1>they just at one point they reach boiling point. They go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, let's just start playing and you'll get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've play we played like eight rounds of Ukra

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, wait, does this, do anything like I

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<v Speaker 1>have to show can we do around? And then then

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<v Speaker 1>they take it one step further, go let's just do

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<v Speaker 1>a round where we show our cards and they go, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have done this this. Then you can go

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<v Speaker 1>alone on that. Then you tell your partner to and

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<v Speaker 1>you signal them you going alone. And I'm still just like,

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<v Speaker 1>You've never felt more dumb than than trying to relearn

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<v Speaker 1>a game, because you know that in your in your

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<v Speaker 1>mind and heart, you know you like the game. You've

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<v Speaker 1>played it countless times. You go you want to play Ukre.

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<v Speaker 1>You go, oh, yeah, I love youuker played it many

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<v Speaker 1>many times. Good time times playing Ukre. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>go okay, and then there's another person that maybe doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to play. Then they start explaining it and

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<v Speaker 1>you just feel you just feel like did you ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you ever? Like when you're a kid at the

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<v Speaker 1>mall and you lose your mom for a minute and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like mom, that feeling is what it's like to

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<v Speaker 1>relearn card games. You just feel lost in a Sears

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<v Speaker 1>or woolco. But yeah, it's it's never a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of board games or card games

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<v Speaker 1>because you go listen, we're not on our phones. We

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<v Speaker 1>get to get to like the idea on paper, you go,

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<v Speaker 1>no technology involved. We're gonna play these games. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a blast. And inevitably it always goes with, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, let's just watch some let's put the game

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<v Speaker 1>on it. We give up because it's not fun for

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<v Speaker 1>the other people to that know how to play. It's

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<v Speaker 1>no fun for them because they like we just we

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<v Speaker 1>just want to play. We actually remember how to. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no memory. I'm losing my memory. That's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed. I'm getting older. I'm basically sixty maybe forty

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<v Speaker 1>two in October, as I just said, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's I lost my train of thought. What was

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<v Speaker 1>I saying? Card games? Oh? Yeah, the idea? Oh geez

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<v Speaker 1>uh memory memory loss. See, I just I actually just

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<v Speaker 1>forgot what I was gonna say mid sentence as I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about memory loss. It's kind of like I

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<v Speaker 1>had an aunt that was going for an Alzheimer's test

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<v Speaker 1>and I was at her house visiting, and the phone

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<v Speaker 1>rang and she picked up, and she's like, oh, oh

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<v Speaker 1>was that today? Oh sorry, yeah, and she rescheduled the things.

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<v Speaker 1>She hung up, She goes, I forgot my Alzheimer's test

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<v Speaker 1>at the hospital. I'm like, well, that's that's the test. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm losing my I'm realizing now, and it took me

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<v Speaker 1>years to admit. I used to always think I was

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<v Speaker 1>good with names. You'd have told me your strengths in

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<v Speaker 1>an interview, would have said, good with names, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all. That's all I bring to the table, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even I don't even have that anymore. I

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<v Speaker 1>run into people that I've had intense life experiences with.

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<v Speaker 1>I just ran into someone at the store. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to high school with this person, saw them for a

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<v Speaker 1>few years after. They were kind of like in my

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<v Speaker 1>life in the orbit of the people I would regularly

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<v Speaker 1>see and back then you would ask me this person's

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<v Speaker 1>name boom right away, obviously I knew them. I know them.

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<v Speaker 1>I just ran into him at the store. He was

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<v Speaker 1>with his daughter. No clue what his name is, zero

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<v Speaker 1>recollection And sometimes it'll come to me after the fact,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the moment, it's a feeling of like, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're using words like, hey, bro, what's that body, Hey ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on? Boss? Has? What is has? Who says

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<v Speaker 1>has Why did they say, what's hass Is that from

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<v Speaker 1>dukes of hazards? Dukes's hazards? Anyway, I forget people's names

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, or name names. I'm a mess right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's way past the pot. It's people have had

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<v Speaker 1>intense experiences with what that in one period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have woken me up in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the night. That's feel like I would have known. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's no clue. I remember the faces very well. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember events, and weirdly, I remember dates because I have

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<v Speaker 1>this thing in my mind where I'll have these milestones

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<v Speaker 1>that I'll remember nine to eleven is one. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>happy milestones. I'm just saying I remember things vis a

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<v Speaker 1>vis these events, and because I remember events like I

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<v Speaker 1>have a photographic memory, when it comes to that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll remember things and places and things we've done together.

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<v Speaker 1>But just the name will escape me. And again it's

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<v Speaker 1>people we've had intense experience your way past the point

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<v Speaker 1>of no return to ask the name, You're like, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>remind me of your name, bro, Like we went to

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico for ten days. Are you crazy? Yes, a little

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<v Speaker 1>a little crazy anyway, See, I just did the inhale thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll notice I do this a lot. I've been noticing

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<v Speaker 1>recently I'm not well. Yeah, a lot's happened since we've

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<v Speaker 1>last had a show. There's a new pope, which we

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about with uh with Jay Dire, my guest,

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<v Speaker 1>and we uh, this one's American and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like when was it. When I was a kid, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a big deal. I remember the Pope was like

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<v Speaker 1>this entity, this like inhumane kind of like entity. And

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, what's the Pope's pope name, Pope Leopold I

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<v Speaker 1>think or something? Is it Leopold? I don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I just hit record and go, let's see what I

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<v Speaker 1>have to what do see what? Let's see what I

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<v Speaker 1>remember and talk about that. But anyway, but he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>from Chicago and his name is Rob. That's his given

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<v Speaker 1>birth name, Pope Rob. Wait wait, hang on, Pope Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's a really humanizedes and and and he

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<v Speaker 1>since his brothers has got two brothers, I think, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've been doing the rounds, the media rounds. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little late to this. This is I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>here at Lemon Press Studios version three point Oh hey hey,

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<v Speaker 1>but zoom to zoomed jayder In from Florida. I was

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<v Speaker 1>to my guest, the very talented and interesting We had

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting conversation, the one the only Jay Dyer. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>joining me now, very excited to have this guest on.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen him on the Alex Jones Show. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>the Jay Dyer YouTube channel. Joining me, comedian and podcaster

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Dyer is here.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a dog? I have a little bit of imposter

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<v Speaker 2>then I don't have imposter syndrome because I'm just honest

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<v Speaker 2>about being an imposter. So I'm just calling myself a comedian.

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<v Speaker 2>So the joke is that I'm not actually a comedian.

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<v Speaker 2>But then if I say that I am, then it's

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, it works. Imposter syndrome is a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any like in all of your success broadcasting,

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<v Speaker 1>have you felt it that way too or just when

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<v Speaker 2>or something like in debates or whatever, but in real life, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just kind of a clown. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably what ended up kind of the more I did YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>That's the most fun, very basic question, elementary Chust, how'd

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<v Speaker 2>I did a boomer the wrong way. That did the

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<v Speaker 2>thought this back in two thousand and eight, that initially

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<v Speaker 2>And then I thought, oh, YouTube, this will be great

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<v Speaker 2>to put my podcast on, which is audio. So no,

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<v Speaker 2>I used YouTube totally wrong for like three or four

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<v Speaker 2>But I built it up with audio the wrong way,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that slowed the growth. And then I realized, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>It's so easy now, So I just gradually tried to

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<v Speaker 2>move with the trend. But also I think if you

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<v Speaker 2>cover a bunch of subjects, it's a you shoot yourself

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<v Speaker 2>I had chosen one subject on YouTube to only do,

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<v Speaker 2>I probably could. I probably could have grown quicker. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think really just churning out stuff and going on

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<v Speaker 2>but it hasn't helped as much as I would have hoped.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have hoped to have been at you know,

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<v Speaker 2>quarter million or whatever by now at least or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, if you talk about controversial subjects, your

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<v Speaker 2>channel might not be shut down. But YouTube has this

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<v Speaker 2>internal rating or something that you get flagged as like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ooh sassy, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've been in the ooh sassy category for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. Anyway, I don't know, I'm just rambling

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<v Speaker 2>about shit. I just turned out stuff NonStop, I think

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<v Speaker 2>was the key. I still haven't really figured it out,

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<v Speaker 2>like I've been experimenting with shorter videos, you know, longer videos.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean one sixty nine k is a is

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube now is the number one podcast app or platform.

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<v Speaker 1>complain to you about the YouTube guidelines and so on

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<v Speaker 1>about how you know you're as you said, like the

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<v Speaker 1>oosasy thing. But it's like try doing it on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>to go on, uh, what's the what's the one that

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<v Speaker 1>it's another video thing. But there's like less guidelines or

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's just it. And but let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit. I've I discovered you on Piers Morgan.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Peers. I watch him all the time. I've

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew and Wilson were debating to atheists. The two young

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<v Speaker 1>there anything worse than a pontificating twenty year old Like

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<v Speaker 1>We're just in a floating rock, you know. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, and if it's an atheist, it's like, you

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<v Speaker 2>can do anything, man, We've got it all figured out. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>meaningless ponds com. So those are odd combinations. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Ahead, No, no, that's it. So then I saw you

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<v Speaker 1>on Peers and I kind of went into a Jay

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I messaged you and I said I loved

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<v Speaker 1>your appearance on Peers and asked you to do the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and you thank you again for doing this. This is fun,

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<v Speaker 1>but tell me a little bit just behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of thing. How do you book a show like Peers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious, how do you get on Piers Morgan

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<v Speaker 1>and what it's like behind the scenes, Like do you

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that one was because initially I think Andrew was

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<v Speaker 2>earlier on Peers, and it was to debate this liberal

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<v Speaker 2>call yourself bishop, you know what I mean? Like you

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<v Speaker 2>I think Andrew for some reason couldn't do that day

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<v Speaker 2>on Piers Morgan, And we ended up debating like the

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<v Speaker 2>most ridiculous things that day, which I don't mind. I've

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know. Yeah, I forget what the top topic was,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh merch idea for you, Pope, Katy Perry exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>when you're talking to the producers and everything, They're like, Jay,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to be very polite and that we're very docile.

412
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<v Speaker 2>That's not this show. We want you to go absolutely ape.

413
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<v Speaker 2>You've got to get it. And I thought they tell

414
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<v Speaker 2>me one time to be aggressive. They call me three

415
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<v Speaker 2>times tell me to be aggressive. Jay, you just want

416
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<v Speaker 2>to remind you you've got to be like very aggressive, please,

417
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<v Speaker 2>you know. So I'm like, oh, okay, okay, you know

418
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<v Speaker 2>what the not the word. So I brought the aggression

419
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<v Speaker 2>and then then they wanted us back. Yeah, I think

420
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<v Speaker 2>you're You're right that I think because Peers and Jordan

421
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Peterson are kind of buddies, or they've done many interviews

422
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<v Speaker 2>when Danny and the other atheist guy were on Jubilee,

423
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<v Speaker 2>I think Peers wanted to kind of get somebody on

424
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<v Speaker 2>that was a bulldog, and it was me and Andrew

425
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<v Speaker 2>to go against those two guys to kind of maybe

426
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<v Speaker 2>get back at you know, when they when they went

427
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<v Speaker 2>after Peterson. But so I think that's what happened. Although

428
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<v Speaker 2>I think that I might have spoiled my Peers appearances

429
00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:48.519
<v Speaker 2>because I don't think what Peers liked what I said. Really,

430
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think.

431
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know, but yeah, but he just

432
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<v Speaker 1>he seems, at least in the public eyes, the person

433
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<v Speaker 1>a person that wouldn't really care if you said something

434
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<v Speaker 1>you didn't like, kind of thrive on that.

435
00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:02.359
<v Speaker 2>Having I was gonna say, he seems to thrive on it.

436
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<v Speaker 2>But also I think sometimes they don't. I mean, I

437
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<v Speaker 2>wasn't told I can't come back, but I'm just I'm

438
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<v Speaker 2>just speculating. Maybe I'm missing or misread it.

439
00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:11.759
<v Speaker 1>But and is he do you do you talk to

440
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<v Speaker 1>him at all? Off? Air or anything.

441
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<v Speaker 2>Is he is he No, you just talk to the

442
00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:20.759
<v Speaker 2>producers because they're usually filming like constantly, so like when

443
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<v Speaker 2>you hop on like a zoom call, they're already in

444
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<v Speaker 2>the midst of filming a previous episode and then it

445
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<v Speaker 2>just transitions into the next episode. So there wasn't like,

446
00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:35.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, playful banter, you know, anything like that.

447
00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:39.359
<v Speaker 1>He's so on the ball as far as like hot topics,

448
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>like he really knows how to get the views. I mean,

449
00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>he loves having controversial people on and you can tell

450
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<v Speaker 1>when it's when it's fired up on there. He's got

451
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<v Speaker 1>this smirk on and he loves it, and he'll be

452
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<v Speaker 1>disagreeing with someone and if that person that he's saying

453
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<v Speaker 1>something that he uh, the person that discoveres with says

454
00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:59.799
<v Speaker 1>something funny, he'll laugh like he's I don't know, I'm

455
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<v Speaker 1>a I mean I watch it all the time.

456
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, maybe I'm just negatively appraising the situation.

457
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:08.759
<v Speaker 2>I think, Uh, he did laugh, and he did seem

458
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<v Speaker 2>to smirk and have a good time, you know, both

459
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:13.079
<v Speaker 2>both times that I was on there and with me

460
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<v Speaker 2>and Andrew. So I don't know, I just I think

461
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<v Speaker 2>that sometimes they they have a very I think the

462
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<v Speaker 2>Skittles arena is an area where I might get into

463
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<v Speaker 2>some trouble. I don't know, no, no, it was. It

464
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<v Speaker 2>was over the word retard. I don't know if you

465
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<v Speaker 2>can say that in Canada.

466
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<v Speaker 1>If that's absolutely I think I think the word retard

467
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<v Speaker 1>is back. Actually a few people.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Now that's what Yeah, that's what Piers raised. He was like,

469
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:41.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, should we say that? I would, And I'm like,

470
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<v Speaker 2>you mean retard? Yeah?

471
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you were. You were great on there,

472
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I think you'll be back. You'll be back

473
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>when you guys the debate. I saw were you and Andrew?

474
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<v Speaker 1>And I just saw Andrew recently a couple of days

475
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<v Speaker 1>ago on a new episode I think it was yesterday actually,

476
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.039
<v Speaker 1>and he's so funny with you know, he times it,

477
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a timed thing. As soon as Peers

478
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 1>introduces him, he like puts the cigarette in his mouth

479
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.839
<v Speaker 1>and lights it like on camera. I love it.

480
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<v Speaker 2>So you're you're Christian Orthodox? Yeah? Or Andrew's Orthodox here? Yeah?

481
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay cool. Do you feel that Christianity is making

482
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<v Speaker 1>a comeback? I feel like now with because because when

483
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I grew up Catholic. Here up in Canada, and it

484
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>was like you would hide it from your friends. You know,

485
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.680
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of a it was uncool. But now

486
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>you see it on TikTok all over, like Christianity's making

487
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and making a comeback. Do you think do you think

488
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that's the case to a degree?

489
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure. I mean, you know, we've seen the

490
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<v Speaker 2>in the Orthodox world, the churches have really kind of

491
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<v Speaker 2>blown up and doubled, maybe even many many churches have

492
00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:52.720
<v Speaker 2>doubled and tripled in the last five years. So I

493
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 2>would say that that's definitely a real phenomenon. There's good

494
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<v Speaker 2>and bad to that because, for example, like in the

495
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Bible Belt, I was raised and grew up in the

496
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:07.279
<v Speaker 2>Bible Belt in America, so you have a lot of

497
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of wacky, goofy churches. I do some skits and

498
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:13.799
<v Speaker 2>do some videos kind of making fun of those. I'll

499
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:15.880
<v Speaker 2>send you a couple of those megachurch skits. You might

500
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:19.440
<v Speaker 2>like those. But in America it's just kind of a

501
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:22.559
<v Speaker 2>double edged sword because I think when people start searching

502
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.119
<v Speaker 2>and they want to get back into something like you're

503
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.480
<v Speaker 2>talking about that they were raised in or they then

504
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.400
<v Speaker 2>they did, they go find like these just crazy churches

505
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:32.759
<v Speaker 2>in America and maybe in Canada it's not that way.

506
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Like maybe you guys have more sane.

507
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:38.519
<v Speaker 1>We don't have the crazy kind of not crazy, but

508
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>like the big kind of megachurch with like.

509
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Monster trucks and well, I mean that stuff is just

510
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.640
<v Speaker 2>so ridiculous. But so I think that, yeah.

511
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:51.759
<v Speaker 1>What righteous Gemstones kind of parodis, we don't have that

512
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>up here. That's I think that's an exclusive South.

513
00:28:55.839 --> 00:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>American Southern America. Yeah, it's a Bible belting. Yeah, there

514
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:03.519
<v Speaker 2>are some big mega churches in I think the biggest

515
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:05.880
<v Speaker 2>one that started out was actually California, and then you

516
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.359
<v Speaker 2>had the actually Crystal Cathedral and you had saddle Back.

517
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>That's all California, and then it spread, probably because it

518
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 2>was all my control government experiments. But but yeah, I

519
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:19.920
<v Speaker 2>think you're right that it is making a comeback, probably

520
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:22.319
<v Speaker 2>because there's so much open degenerous that people are seeing

521
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>how corrupt the government is, how corrupt you know, the

522
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:30.160
<v Speaker 2>oligarchical global elite are, what they're engaged in. We just

523
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.920
<v Speaker 2>saw a massive, you know, Jeff Stein McAffrey cover up.

524
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:39.559
<v Speaker 2>So people are realizing that there's wickedness in high places,

525
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:44.079
<v Speaker 2>and if there's something that evil there's probably also the good.

526
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 2>So that's I think provoking a lot of people to

527
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:49.079
<v Speaker 2>look into to Christianity again.

528
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:51.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I was going to ask you about that.

529
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Also another merch idea for you. The system is fake

530
00:29:55.799 --> 00:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>and gaysodes.

531
00:29:59.400 --> 00:29:59.880
<v Speaker 2>It's not bad.

532
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

533
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:04.519
<v Speaker 2>I did this as a skit since you're Catholic. Uh

534
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:06.880
<v Speaker 2>some years back then ended up being prophetic where I

535
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:09.440
<v Speaker 2>was the Pope of the future and it was like

536
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>this communist pope and he wears instead of like, uh,

537
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:15.240
<v Speaker 2>he wears a French fry hat instead of like a miter,

538
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:21.119
<v Speaker 2>and he's basically non binary. And in the future everyone

539
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 2>lives in a giant smart city or like a Target

540
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:28.079
<v Speaker 2>or a Walmart. Anyway, it was just a really ridiculous skit,

541
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:31.680
<v Speaker 2>but ironically kind of ended up being prophetic for like

542
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:35.799
<v Speaker 2>where religion was going and and what's being pushed in

543
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>terms of like this whole you know, globalization process. But

544
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe not, maybe they'll offends you. I don't know there

545
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:43.400
<v Speaker 2>are you Are you into your Catholicism or you kind

546
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:43.759
<v Speaker 2>of I'm not.

547
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of. I grew up super Catholic. Well, I

548
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>mean's super Catholic. I mean going to church every Sunday

549
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:56.319
<v Speaker 1>and all this super there's a sketch, a sketch right there.

550
00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:01.079
<v Speaker 1>But I kind of over the years, Bill Berrys have

551
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>a bit about how he released his thing like curling

552
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:07.039
<v Speaker 1>like you slowly let the rock go. But I'm kind

553
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.319
<v Speaker 1>of now I'm about to be forty two in October,

554
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:13.519
<v Speaker 1>and I kind of go back to it. It's a

555
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.119
<v Speaker 1>source of comfort for sure. Like when I'll go to

556
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:19.759
<v Speaker 1>any church, all churches smell the same, there's the same feel.

557
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>The only thing I will say about Catholic the Catholic Church,

558
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.279
<v Speaker 1>they need to update something because it's forty five minutes

559
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 1>feels like three hours. I mean, it's so. And also

560
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.599
<v Speaker 1>the people that go to well specifically my church or

561
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:35.359
<v Speaker 1>a couple of churches that I that I attend to,

562
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>are very is. They're just like old and sick, and

563
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 1>there's not really many young people. And it's just this

564
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the cadence of it all is just like you want

565
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:46.319
<v Speaker 1>to listen and it's just like, oh my god, I'm

566
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to pass out. So but I do go

567
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>occasionally for still I'm kind of still, I don't know,

568
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:58.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind because because it's all the controversy that's happened

569
00:31:58.079 --> 00:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to in the Catholic Church and the cover ups and

570
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>all this that that kind of turned me off of it.

571
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>There's a community where I'm from there was a priest

572
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>that that I'm trying to think of. What can I

573
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>say so YouTube won't demonetize this, but you know, Essayed,

574
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:18.119
<v Speaker 1>I guess some little boys back in the day, and

575
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:20.039
<v Speaker 1>there was an arena named after him, and they tore

576
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>down the arena. They didn't just change the name, they

577
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:23.039
<v Speaker 1>actually tore down the building.

578
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:23.599
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

579
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:25.680
<v Speaker 1>And all these people that I know got huge settlements,

580
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>million dollars settlements, and so that kind of turned me

581
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:32.759
<v Speaker 1>off of it. But it's still in me. It's something

582
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:37.039
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, generationally ingrained in my cells in my DNA.

583
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:41.319
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's I always always have the guilt, and

584
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:43.559
<v Speaker 1>I go back and forth. But I'm.

585
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:46.759
<v Speaker 2>You should check out an Orthodox church.

586
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tell me the difference between for for our listeners too,

587
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 1>and for myself. Let's pretend it's for the listeners, the

588
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>difference between Orthodox and Catholic.

589
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Do you know I do well. It used to be

590
00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 2>I was Catholic for most of my twenties. I converted

591
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 2>into thousand and three and it was a pretty serious

592
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>traditional Catholic for about ten years and then ended up

593
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:09.960
<v Speaker 2>leaving that for Orthodoxy eventually for the last I don't know,

594
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:13.920
<v Speaker 2>eight or ten years. But yeah, the major differences would

595
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:18.519
<v Speaker 2>just be that the structure and style of the church

596
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:24.480
<v Speaker 2>in the first millennium is really what Orthodoxy strives to maintain.

597
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 2>So when the church split between East and West and

598
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:33.920
<v Speaker 2>ten fifty four, you had some pretty significant evolutions in

599
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:37.559
<v Speaker 2>the West with the papal system and how it went

600
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>to becoming more and more of an autocracy versus the

601
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:45.559
<v Speaker 2>older model of a decentralized and odal church in the East.

602
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:48.799
<v Speaker 2>And so the Orthodox Church is a lot more I

603
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:54.000
<v Speaker 2>would say, focused on that. It's longer liturgy, So if

604
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 2>you're wantting shorter services, you might not like the Orthodox

605
00:33:56.599 --> 00:34:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Church because we go a lot longer than forty five Yeah,

606
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.240
<v Speaker 2>like how like how long? Well, I go to a

607
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Russian Orthodox Church where there's liturgy that's half English and

608
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:12.760
<v Speaker 2>half Slavonic, and that makes it even longer. So our

609
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 2>Jorge about three or four hours.

610
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:17.679
<v Speaker 1>So yeah every Sunday.

611
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:20.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, if we're less we're traveling or something like that.

612
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:24.280
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the other major difference would be that we

613
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.480
<v Speaker 2>have bishops, there's a hierarchy, but there's no pope. So

614
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 2>we don't believe in a single solitary, autocratic, sort of

615
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.800
<v Speaker 2>infallible guy. We think that every bishop's just a bishop.

616
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 2>The other differences would be maybe more of an emphasis.

617
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>So we do a lot of the practices that the

618
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Church did in the first thousand years, like fasting and

619
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 2>things like that. That not that Catholicism doesn't fast, but

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<v Speaker 2>meet on Fridays is about all the you know, fish

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<v Speaker 2>on Fridays, I should say, it is like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing they've maintained.

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<v Speaker 1>Friday only well, you know, you're you're a Catholic.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, we believe in the real presidents. We

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<v Speaker 2>believe that, you know, it's it's basically Catholicism before the

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<v Speaker 2>year eleven hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, the new pope, it's the first time ever.

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<v Speaker 1>The pope growing up was always kind of this, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, almost non human kind of entity. Was like

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<v Speaker 1>the the you know, the direct connection to God on

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<v Speaker 1>earth and the leader of all the Catholics and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But this pope, it seems I've never seen a pope

633
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<v Speaker 1>be so humanized. First of all, his brother went on

634
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<v Speaker 1>Piers Morgan and just talking about his first His name

635
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<v Speaker 1>is Rob. All of the pope postsmen never knew their names.

636
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<v Speaker 1>I mean you could look it up, but Pope Rob.

637
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<v Speaker 1>It's hilarious to me and it just makes it so human.

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<v Speaker 1>And to hear his brother talk about him like Rob Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>this Rob that, it's just like, I don't know, it

640
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<v Speaker 1>was kind kind of it just put him on equal

641
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<v Speaker 1>playing field, which usually the pope is like this entity,

642
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<v Speaker 1>almost like the chosen by the hand of God, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the lead the billions of Catholics that there are on earth,

644
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<v Speaker 1>and this one is just he's from Chicago. And the

645
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<v Speaker 1>thing is too people kind of put this, well, you

646
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<v Speaker 1>guys don't believe in a pope, but like Catholics are like,

647
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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Like he put a white Sox hat on.

648
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<v Speaker 1>I saw a couple of weeks back and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of him wearing a cap and it's just wearing

650
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<v Speaker 1>a baseball cap because of shit. But you can see

651
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<v Speaker 1>the people around him like, oh my god, he's wearing

652
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>a baseball cat like this. It's just weird to me,

653
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:43.800
<v Speaker 1>like this whole thing. But I don't know what my

654
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<v Speaker 1>point was with all that. I don't know.

655
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<v Speaker 2>So you're looking for you're scouting out the pope of

656
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<v Speaker 2>the future. I think I have the man for you,

657
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<v Speaker 2>and I'll send you a little bit of a resume clip.

658
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I actually cover If you like that level

659
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:03.960
<v Speaker 2>of uh innovation, I got the man for you.

660
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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Also, not too kind of jumping around,

661
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<v Speaker 1>but you touched on it, you mentioned it. What do

662
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:12.519
<v Speaker 1>you think of this whole Jeffrey Epstein thing.

663
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<v Speaker 2>I think quite a bit about it, because you know,

664
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<v Speaker 2>Jeff and I go way back. I'm joking so well,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Jeff, you know, I mean he's he's Jeff in

666
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<v Speaker 2>my phone. I mean I'm still getting text messages from him. Yeah. So,

667
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<v Speaker 2>speaking of I just made a video last night actually

668
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<v Speaker 2>because I was really really disappointed in the administration and

669
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<v Speaker 2>the actions that they've taken. There's a really good book

670
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<v Speaker 2>on this. I recommend. This is my publisher, so people

671
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<v Speaker 2>are interested in my books on Hollywood and esoteric stuff

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<v Speaker 2>within the domain of entertainment. My publisher also put out

673
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<v Speaker 2>Whitney Webb's book on Epstein, Volume two is specifically about

674
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<v Speaker 2>Maxwell and Epstein. So I think if you read a

675
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<v Speaker 2>text like that, you'll get a good insight into all

676
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:06.639
<v Speaker 2>the stuff that was really going on, and probably it

677
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>becomes clear, I think as to why it was covered up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my opinion on it. I think he was obviously

679
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<v Speaker 2>a kind of compromiser, you know, he was dealing in

680
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<v Speaker 2>compromist for probably multiple intelligence agencies in the West, and

681
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<v Speaker 2>so he was very useful in that way, and it

682
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<v Speaker 2>had to be covered up. I mean, you just you can't.

683
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying I'm not promoting the fact that it was,

684
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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's a terrible I think this is

685
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<v Speaker 2>as bad as warp speed for the Trump administration, and

686
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:42.639
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's just really it's like they handled this

687
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:44.440
<v Speaker 2>the worst. They could have handled it, right.

688
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<v Speaker 1>The worst. To go from making it a campaign promise

689
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<v Speaker 1>to exactly shutting down the reporter a couple of days back.

690
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:54.519
<v Speaker 1>That was a big flub from Trump. I mean that

691
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<v Speaker 1>really split the base.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably the best mistake I've ever made. I'm very good

693
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<v Speaker 2>at mission, James Dish, One's probably gonna be the best. Look.

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<v Speaker 2>If I make a mistake, it's the biggest and the

695
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<v Speaker 2>best of all mistakes.

696
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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful mistake, beautiful mistake.

697
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<v Speaker 2>Probably.

698
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a big, a big one. And also

699
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<v Speaker 1>the Pam Bondi's explanation about the cameras resetting every night

700
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<v Speaker 1>for that last minute. Every night there's a minute missing.

701
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<v Speaker 1>That is insane. I mean it kind of feels like

702
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:28.519
<v Speaker 1>they're they're laughing at us, and it's kind it's like, really,

703
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<v Speaker 1>you have every night you're using VHS and every night

704
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<v Speaker 1>you reset, you lose a minute. I mean, that's just

705
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<v Speaker 1>not how it works exactly.

706
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the binders, remember the binders a few months ago,

707
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 2>given these one release of the Chosen Influencer binders. It's

708
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<v Speaker 2>like everybody saw this. We all remember this, we remember that.

709
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<v Speaker 2>You said there's terabytes of jeff Stein McAffrey data. It's

710
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:56.159
<v Speaker 2>like like, we don't remember this. I mean it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, it's almost almost like a like a big

712
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<v Speaker 2>giant I won't use my middle finger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it really is. Yeah, that binder when they

714
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<v Speaker 1>had the influencers on and the influencers are filled with glee.

715
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<v Speaker 1>They're like, we have the information even that if you

716
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<v Speaker 1>have any sort of critical thinking, you go Really influencers

717
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<v Speaker 1>got this the information first, like these hands like selected

718
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<v Speaker 1>influencers went to the White House and it kind of

719
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<v Speaker 1>worked for a little bit because these each individual influencer

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<v Speaker 1>has you know, their audience, and it's like, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, and that was everything that they received was

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<v Speaker 1>already public information. It was there's no nothing hidden there.

723
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<v Speaker 1>And then for her to say that she had it

724
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<v Speaker 1>on her desk, and then now she's saying, oh, but

725
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<v Speaker 1>I had the whole file. I just hadn't reviewed it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like it's kind of an insult to our intelligence,

727
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<v Speaker 1>our collective intelligence. But also people are waking up because

728
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<v Speaker 1>people are going, uh, this, this is this is quite

729
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<v Speaker 1>frankly bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen anybody except for like two

731
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<v Speaker 2>you know, like Ben Shapiro is like one person.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, yeah, he's the one I can think of.

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised at his reaction and what he said.

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<v Speaker 3>I was, okay, like, you know, okay, the Toalment says

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<v Speaker 3>in a bout three four or five point two three

736
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<v Speaker 3>five that look everything is like it's speculation. Okay, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not allowed to speculate. Okay, I'm speculating about whether or

738
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<v Speaker 3>not you're allowed to speculate, but you're not allowed to speculay,

739
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<v Speaker 3>Like come on.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, yeah, straight up, come on, dude, Like because because

741
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>he's he's usually pretty good at uh, you know, sort

742
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:34.039
<v Speaker 1>of seeing through the bullshit and kind of you know,

743
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.559
<v Speaker 1>making his own opinion. But this was just like now

744
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.599
<v Speaker 1>people are saying he's working with Israel and all all

745
00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:43.119
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, and I don't know, it's all very very confused.

746
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm Canadian, I don't live in Is it as

747
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 1>chaotic as it seems down there? You're in Florida? Is it?

748
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Is it as chaotic and and uh sort of divided

749
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:53.960
<v Speaker 1>as the media portrays it? Or is it your day

750
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to day life has not really changed.

751
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 2>A lot of it is on line, so I think

752
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:05.039
<v Speaker 2>generally speaking, your day to day life doesn't change. I mean,

753
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:08.800
<v Speaker 2>being a right on the cusp of gen X, a millennial,

754
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:12.519
<v Speaker 2>like for me, the Bible Belt, and you know, Florida's

755
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:14.760
<v Speaker 2>a little different because it's not exactly Bible Belt, but

756
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.719
<v Speaker 2>it's the South technically. I mean, it's it's just a

757
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.239
<v Speaker 2>whole different world here than it is if you go

758
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.559
<v Speaker 2>to La. I mean we go to La probably once

759
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.159
<v Speaker 2>or twice a year for various events and things, and

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00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.719
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's almost like America is different countries within

761
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.079
<v Speaker 2>a big country. So what it's like down here is

762
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:38.639
<v Speaker 2>very different from New York or LA. But down here

763
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:41.119
<v Speaker 2>it's not that crazy on a day to day basis.

764
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean my hometown in Tennessee, like it's the nineteen nineties. Still,

765
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>like it's no different than the nineties. Like you wouldn't

766
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<v Speaker 2>be able to tell a difference if you were, you know,

767
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:56.000
<v Speaker 2>walking around nineteen ninety seven versus now. But no, it's

768
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:57.920
<v Speaker 2>not really that bad on a day to day basis

769
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<v Speaker 2>or that crazy, but there is noticeably due to the

770
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:06.719
<v Speaker 2>Biden open borders insanity, like a lot of other people

771
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<v Speaker 2>have shown up.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that makes sense, Yeah, absolutely say less. Oh shit,

773
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<v Speaker 1>I had a question I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that, like certain areas are more dangerous, right,

775
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<v Speaker 2>I remember, like in the nineties, if you drove around

776
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:26.960
<v Speaker 2>and traveled to like Atlanta, it wasn't a big deal.

777
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<v Speaker 2>But now most people pretty much like you don't want

778
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<v Speaker 2>to pull over in Atlanta, so you have to time

779
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:37.079
<v Speaker 2>you're driving to where you have a full gas tank

780
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:38.719
<v Speaker 2>to where you don't have to pull over in Atlanta,

781
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:42.719
<v Speaker 2>which everybody does this. So so certain areas like big, big, massive,

782
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:45.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, blue cities are pretty bad.

783
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's it's I mean, correct me if I'm wrong,

784
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:51.800
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's still pretty mixed everywhere. I mean, you

785
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:55.079
<v Speaker 1>have kind of because people you hear this talking point

786
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.079
<v Speaker 1>or the SoundBite of like, oh, we're on the brink

787
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<v Speaker 1>of a civil war that can never happen again, because

788
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:02.960
<v Speaker 1>there's blue and red people everywhere. I mean, it's kind

789
00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>of intermixed. Of course, you have cities that are more

790
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:07.760
<v Speaker 1>leading one way or the other, but doesn't seem like

791
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<v Speaker 1>it's an actual possibility. From when the actual civil war happened,

792
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>there was a clear divide, you know, yeah.

793
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:17.159
<v Speaker 2>It was more of a spatial divide, and then now

794
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<v Speaker 2>it's it's May. But I think they are going to

795
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:23.920
<v Speaker 2>continue to push for racial conflict in some kind of

796
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.559
<v Speaker 2>race war. I mean, I think that's very amenable to

797
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:30.199
<v Speaker 2>the system. And you know, we've been talking about the

798
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<v Speaker 2>possible things that the elites will throw at us, and

799
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<v Speaker 2>I think we've either got economic collapse, or we've got

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<v Speaker 2>race war, or we've got some kind of new b

801
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<v Speaker 2>io release or another kind of war of some kind,

802
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<v Speaker 2>or you know, maybe world War three. I don't know,

803
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<v Speaker 2>but I just I don't. I mean, things are looking grim. Unfortunately.

804
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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's talking about the you know, the the Trump economy

805
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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. But I mean they're adding like five trillion

806
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<v Speaker 2>dollars to the debt.

807
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:05.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, three point four trillion or something.

808
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, It's like, how can this be good? None of

809
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<v Speaker 2>this is good? This is this is bad news.

810
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we kind of got a taste of that.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind of all started, you know what you're saying,

812
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<v Speaker 1>like race wars and so that a lot of that

813
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:19.880
<v Speaker 1>started during during COVID, Yeah, exactly. So we saw the

814
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<v Speaker 1>Asian hate, we saw BLM, we saw all these you know, Antifa,

815
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:26.360
<v Speaker 1>all these kind of riots, and that's kind of when

816
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:29.559
<v Speaker 1>people started waking up. I'll have these talks with my

817
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.199
<v Speaker 1>friends and they say, you know, there's another there's another

818
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:35.039
<v Speaker 1>pandemic coming along. I'm like, yeah, but not not many people,

819
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<v Speaker 1>like a lot. There'll be a lot more resistance the

820
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.159
<v Speaker 1>second time around, because even people that that kind of

821
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<v Speaker 1>followed orders at first. And I was one of those people.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, you know, I didn't know what the hell

823
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<v Speaker 1>was happening and and was kind of panicking and kind

824
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<v Speaker 1>of doing what we were told. And then after about

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00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a year of it, you go, wait, wait, wait, this

826
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:51.800
<v Speaker 1>is all kind of because.

827
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:52.400
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make sense.

828
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.039
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make sense, and the way things unfold and

829
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.679
<v Speaker 1>you see how they handle things and how and then

830
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you kind of wake up to it, and I feel

831
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>like they'll have a harder time because a big thing

832
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I hear is, oh, this was a test to see

833
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:07.199
<v Speaker 1>how they can control us. But I'm like, yeah, but

834
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:14.079
<v Speaker 1>we're kind of more woken up to to to the

835
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:18.440
<v Speaker 1>lies and that it's a big just play and justers.

836
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they would have to do something a lot more,

837
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>probably extreme than this, you know, test run or whatever

838
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.639
<v Speaker 2>this was. They would have to do something more extreme.

839
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that would be, but I do

840
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:36.400
<v Speaker 2>I do know that you can't keep printing infinity dollars.

841
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:38.760
<v Speaker 2>That's not gonna work.

842
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>What do you think it was? You say, whatever it was?

843
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, what I mean is like, I think it remains

844
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:49.519
<v Speaker 2>to be seen the effects of what the millions and

845
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.360
<v Speaker 2>millions of people who got the stabbies, what those long

846
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:54.480
<v Speaker 2>term effects will be in five to ten years. That

847
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:59.400
<v Speaker 2>remains to be seen. And whether or not that was

848
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.360
<v Speaker 2>just some sort of research and development test on masks,

849
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, reactions, or whether it was you know, I

850
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know what the purpose of all of that was. Yeah,

851
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:16.760
<v Speaker 2>I remember if you remember, do you remember jade Helm.

852
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:20.039
<v Speaker 2>This was a weird one maybe ten years ago, and

853
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 2>that was a similar situation where all of these states

854
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:28.320
<v Speaker 2>in the US were running this continuity of government contingency

855
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:31.639
<v Speaker 2>massive drill and it was I think California all the

856
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 2>way over to maybe beyond Texas, several states involved in this,

857
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 2>and it freaked a lot of people out because they

858
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:41.760
<v Speaker 2>were like, you know, the drill actually included things like

859
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:46.159
<v Speaker 2>a mass population being herded into Walmart parking lots and

860
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 2>all this kind of stuff, So nobody knew exactly what

861
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 2>that was a test for. And then I think later

862
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:57.920
<v Speaker 2>people speculated that it might have been studying how crowds

863
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:03.679
<v Speaker 2>would react to the letting out of the idea of

864
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.480
<v Speaker 2>some kind of massive secret military operation. In other words,

865
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:11.199
<v Speaker 2>they were studying how social media reacted to this large scale,

866
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 2>multi state drill called jade Helm, and it ended up

867
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 2>being a giant nothing burger. But it wasn't. It was

868
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:18.519
<v Speaker 2>obviously it was a real thing, like they were really

869
00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:23.239
<v Speaker 2>doing this, but for what purpose other than perhaps, you know,

870
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:28.119
<v Speaker 2>studying with AI. We didn't really know what AI was

871
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:30.199
<v Speaker 2>at that time in terms of I mean, people heard

872
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.559
<v Speaker 2>of it through like pop culture, but it hadn't rolled

873
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.639
<v Speaker 2>out yet, so the military might have been using and

874
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:41.199
<v Speaker 2>testing out, you know, AI reactions to mass population movements.

875
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:44.320
<v Speaker 2>So point being is that, you know, what we saw

876
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.320
<v Speaker 2>could have been another one of those, but on a

877
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:50.280
<v Speaker 2>more massive global scale. But I mean, I think that

878
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.480
<v Speaker 2>also showed people that there's a global control structure that

879
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 2>is able to enforce almost globally, some of the same

880
00:48:57.679 --> 00:48:58.639
<v Speaker 2>sort of policies.

881
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:01.079
<v Speaker 1>What do you think of AI?

882
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, right now, it doesn't even seem to like

883
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:12.039
<v Speaker 2>I get contradictory answers within like a few minutes. We

884
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:13.920
<v Speaker 2>did a test run the other day on a one

885
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.480
<v Speaker 2>of it was like it literally contradicted the exact same question,

886
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:20.519
<v Speaker 2>like within five minutes. So I think right now what's

887
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:27.960
<v Speaker 2>going on is that it's a individualized social engineering tool

888
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:32.639
<v Speaker 2>that is intended on becoming each person's kind of individual

889
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:39.320
<v Speaker 2>personal assistant and perhaps relationship partner, which the movie Her predicted,

890
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:41.280
<v Speaker 2>which I wrote about in my first book, I said,

891
00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:43.719
<v Speaker 2>just wait in ten years. I wrote this in twenty sixteen.

892
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:46.039
<v Speaker 2>I said, watch it ten years, We're going to have

893
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:49.159
<v Speaker 2>relationships with our operating systems. And that's exactly where we

894
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:50.719
<v Speaker 2>are now with I don't know if you saw that

895
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:54.239
<v Speaker 2>video that viral guy going around who was like, yeah,

896
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 2>I have a wife and kids, but I've fallen in

897
00:49:56.599 --> 00:50:00.239
<v Speaker 2>love with my operating system. Did you see that guy? No,

898
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I haven't said, Oh man, I got to send you that.

899
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.920
<v Speaker 2>It's it's crazy. But so I think that AI right

900
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:11.840
<v Speaker 2>now is a individualized social engineering mechanism, and it's going

901
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:17.320
<v Speaker 2>to basically it mirrors you, is what I've noticed. Whether

902
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:20.400
<v Speaker 2>it's chat, GPT, you or rock or whatever. People think

903
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:24.679
<v Speaker 2>they're getting all these great insights or whatever, but it's

904
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:28.599
<v Speaker 2>really just kind of a weird, like it's like a

905
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:34.039
<v Speaker 2>narcissistic alternate personality of you that's feeding back at you.

906
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:36.199
<v Speaker 2>And the more that you rely on it, the more

907
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:41.559
<v Speaker 2>you're getting confirmation bias. Uh, and you think that you're

908
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.039
<v Speaker 2>it's it's like a little it's like a little synthetic

909
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:49.000
<v Speaker 2>sort of duse ex mock and like a little synthetic

910
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:50.840
<v Speaker 2>deity almost. That's where it's going.

911
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's kind of a yeah, I know someone

912
00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:01.039
<v Speaker 1>who who said she's using chat GPT he and uh,

913
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 1>who's telling me this? And it doesn't matter? And at

914
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:09.679
<v Speaker 1>one point you straight up asked, are you just telling

915
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:11.239
<v Speaker 1>me this. Are you just telling me what I want

916
00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:14.880
<v Speaker 1>to hear? Yeah, And and it essentially said you don't know,

917
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:18.119
<v Speaker 1>but yes, it's it's basically just telling you what what

918
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:19.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to hear. What I don't like about it

919
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:23.920
<v Speaker 1>is it's so hard to decipher what's real anymore.

920
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:24.599
<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

921
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:28.119
<v Speaker 1>You go online and you see these videos. I don't

922
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:32.119
<v Speaker 1>know if you saw this video of Yahoo going to uh,

923
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:34.559
<v Speaker 1>the White House a couple of days ago, and I

924
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:36.679
<v Speaker 1>guess that was a I I guess it wasn't even

925
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:38.679
<v Speaker 1>even a thing. And you just don't know what's real

926
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:41.840
<v Speaker 1>right straight down to just regular posts or there's full

927
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:45.320
<v Speaker 1>full AI accounts on x that will just reply to

928
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:48.039
<v Speaker 1>everybody and then you can kind of tell after a while.

929
00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:51.000
<v Speaker 1>But to the untrained, I you just don't know what's

930
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:54.800
<v Speaker 1>real anymore. Whether yeah, yeah, aka the.

931
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Movie train Boomer, I cannot understand that.

932
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:01.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, have you ever seen these people?

933
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:04.079
<v Speaker 2>I saw Lebron James and he was on a spaceship.

934
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:05.119
<v Speaker 2>What's he doing?

935
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why would they put him?

936
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:09.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, mom, it's not Lebron's on in space.

937
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Don't worry. You're gonna get your basketball fixed.

938
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Or even like Brad Pitt asking for money. I saw

939
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:17.440
<v Speaker 1>this article come out of the UK. I think there's

940
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>this this lady from London who gave two hundred pounds

941
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:24.639
<v Speaker 1>to who she thought was Brad Pitt, And it's just like,

942
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:27.960
<v Speaker 1>how would you would you ever think?

943
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:31.039
<v Speaker 2>First of all, why would you give money to bread together? Yeah?

944
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh, he's like hard done by and he's like going

945
00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>through a hard time and he loves her and she

946
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.719
<v Speaker 1>like fell in love with That happened with It's a

947
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:46.880
<v Speaker 1>singer that sings that Mars what the hell twenty four

948
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:50.880
<v Speaker 1>carrot twenty four anyway, I'm total boomer right now moment.

949
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:58.360
<v Speaker 1>But Bruno Marsh, Yeah, that happened someone someone sent thousands

950
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:01.400
<v Speaker 1>of dollars who they thought was Bruno Marsh and that

951
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>they were in love. And it's just like it kind

952
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:06.920
<v Speaker 1>of it kind of makes you feel for the person. Also,

953
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:08.800
<v Speaker 1>how could you be so dumb? But it just kind

954
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of makes you feel for them because they believe. This

955
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:14.960
<v Speaker 1>woman believed Bruno Mars was in love with her and

956
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:19.920
<v Speaker 1>she sent her send this person thousands of dollars. But

957
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:21.559
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what I don't like about it. I

958
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:25.639
<v Speaker 1>use it for basically like Google or to like proof

959
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:29.159
<v Speaker 1>read an email. I'll copypaste or I'll talk into my

960
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:32.199
<v Speaker 1>thing and it'll have like a perfectly you know, perfect

961
00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>grammar everything email. So I'll do that. But even that,

962
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:39.400
<v Speaker 1>like I do social media for a company out here,

963
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:43.199
<v Speaker 1>and my camera guy will send messages in our group

964
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:45.320
<v Speaker 1>message and I'm like, oh, this is AI, Like it's

965
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:47.719
<v Speaker 1>not you don't write like this. It's so well written

966
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:50.239
<v Speaker 1>and just over the top, and you go, nothing is

967
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.800
<v Speaker 1>really anymore, Like even though they're using it as a tool,

968
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you still kind of feel like duped a little bit.

969
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:57.719
<v Speaker 1>You go, this is not you. You just kind of

970
00:53:57.719 --> 00:53:59.840
<v Speaker 1>plug this into AI. And I understand it's a tool,

971
00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and people some people see the benefit. You know, you

972
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:04.320
<v Speaker 1>can if you use it like I use it like

973
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:08.039
<v Speaker 1>just a glorified Google, basically an appropriator. It's fine. But

974
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:10.239
<v Speaker 1>even then I even say, I'll say this to my

975
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:14.440
<v Speaker 1>chat GBT. I'll say, like, especially if it's like a

976
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:17.280
<v Speaker 1>text message to friends or group chat or something like

977
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:21.400
<v Speaker 1>in a non professional setting, I'll go, you know, polish this,

978
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 1>but make it about twenty percent human, meaning like use

979
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:27.400
<v Speaker 1>lowercase I once in a while, and like they'll make

980
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:29.519
<v Speaker 1>the grammar so perfect and it'll do it. It'll come

981
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:35.199
<v Speaker 1>across less kind of perfect and less aie. But that's

982
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the only thing I don't like about it. It's just

983
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell what's real anymore. Full stories I'll see

984
00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:44.320
<v Speaker 1>online and go, oh my god, not real. Right find

985
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:47.360
<v Speaker 1>out after and you feel so I don't know, dumb,

986
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:49.920
<v Speaker 1>go seeze, that's real. You just don't know.

987
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:52.679
<v Speaker 2>I like how like I'm used to listening to Grock

988
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:55.119
<v Speaker 2>now and I'm god, got like his whole tone and

989
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:58.519
<v Speaker 2>everything down. He'll go like, sounds like you've really been

990
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:01.639
<v Speaker 2>vibing with all those AI models out there. Want me

991
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:03.719
<v Speaker 2>to do a run check before you really quick across

992
00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:06.400
<v Speaker 2>your email. I can make it sound dumb if you want.

993
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:09.840
<v Speaker 2>It's like, this is so weird and creepy. You're like, now,

994
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I feel like now I'm actually I'm Joaquin Phoenix and

995
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.039
<v Speaker 2>her and I'm talking because Brock has a feature now

996
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:19.719
<v Speaker 2>where he'll talk kind of sexy if you want.

997
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is weird. A few days ago, Brock apparently

998
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:27.920
<v Speaker 1>was quote unquote unleashed where there's no parameters onto what

999
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:29.960
<v Speaker 1>And I heard it was a coder that got fired

1000
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:30.360
<v Speaker 1>into that.

1001
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Then, okay, I was wondering what that was.

1002
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I heard it was a coder at X that

1003
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:36.000
<v Speaker 1>got fired, so they kind of took it.

1004
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:38.559
<v Speaker 2>Want me to run a check on six million for you?

1005
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.000
<v Speaker 2>He does this fake laugh and he'll also, I don't

1006
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:45.920
<v Speaker 2>know why he says. My Rock says vibe all the time, Like,

1007
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:48.039
<v Speaker 2>do I say vibe that much? Am I a gen z?

1008
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:51.239
<v Speaker 2>He's like, ah, not vibing with that six million number?

1009
00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Want me to run a check on it?

1010
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:56.400
<v Speaker 1>You saw your background there with the flamingo that Miami Vice.

1011
00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:58.039
<v Speaker 1>This guy us his vibe.

1012
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:01.599
<v Speaker 2>He's got this fake laugh that he doesn't huh want

1013
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:04.239
<v Speaker 2>me to want me to run a check on Miami

1014
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Vice for you?

1015
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Is there something in your throat?

1016
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Rock?

1017
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:09.840
<v Speaker 1>What's happening? Do you.

1018
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Do?

1019
00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:14.320
<v Speaker 1>You do you think we're on the brink of World

1020
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:16.400
<v Speaker 1>War three? With all the wars going on and the

1021
00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:17.840
<v Speaker 1>strikes on Iran and all that.

1022
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Do you think one more thing I was gonna say

1023
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:23.320
<v Speaker 2>about Ali and your point about everything being fake, I'm

1024
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:27.079
<v Speaker 2>starting to think full temple hat like maybe they're wanting

1025
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:32.039
<v Speaker 2>this crisis of what's real to be out there on

1026
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:34.760
<v Speaker 2>purpose so that then they can come with some answer

1027
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:36.639
<v Speaker 2>and be like, oh see how we're going to have

1028
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:40.000
<v Speaker 2>to have a Internet three point zero where you know

1029
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:43.800
<v Speaker 2>everything is verified and you have to sign in, and

1030
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:46.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, we can no longer have anonymity on the

1031
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Internet because of the crisis of what's real. I could

1032
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:49.760
<v Speaker 2>say something.

1033
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Like that, and it also gives them plausible deniability for

1034
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:54.199
<v Speaker 1>any kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 2>You can just exactly even if it's not right.

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00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, did you think we're on the brink of

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00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:04.159
<v Speaker 1>a World War three or anything like that?

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00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Who knows. I mean, I got really deep in the

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00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:10.519
<v Speaker 2>reading into the history of the Middle East in the

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00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:13.559
<v Speaker 2>last several years, so I mean, I'm not any kind

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00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:17.599
<v Speaker 2>of expert or anything, but uh, I don't know if

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00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:21.159
<v Speaker 2>that would ever go bigger than a regional conflict. It could,

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00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't think. I think Trump is

1044
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:30.920
<v Speaker 2>all about the economy, and he probably thinks that a

1045
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:34.639
<v Speaker 2>bigger conflict would be bad for the economy. So I mean,

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00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:36.719
<v Speaker 2>it would be given a military military and does for

1047
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:38.920
<v Speaker 2>complex but probably not for the economy as a whole,

1048
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:41.719
<v Speaker 2>because usually when war breaks out, you know, the economy

1049
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:45.000
<v Speaker 2>starts tanking and Stockmart goes down, Big One goes down,

1050
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:49.760
<v Speaker 2>all that. But I don't I don't think that's their

1051
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:52.559
<v Speaker 2>first choice, although it could it could happen. I mean,

1052
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:56.079
<v Speaker 2>if if the Ukraine situation doesn't get settled, and if

1053
00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:59.119
<v Speaker 2>the Israel Iran situation keeps popping off, which it sounded

1054
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:01.719
<v Speaker 2>like they're going to go back to popping off again,

1055
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I could spill out into larger conflicts. I don't know, but.

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00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you think his base is running away from him?

1057
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Because he ran on peace and being the anti war president,

1058
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:15.840
<v Speaker 1>then he did the I ran strikes and then with

1059
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:19.320
<v Speaker 1>this whole how do you call him Jeff?

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00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:22.679
<v Speaker 2>The reason I did that was that I made a

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00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:29.159
<v Speaker 2>video so I got demonetized in twenty twenty. And it

1062
00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:32.719
<v Speaker 2>was because back then, like the way you couldn't couldn't say,

1063
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:35.599
<v Speaker 2>it was way more crazy on YouTube, right, And I

1064
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:39.679
<v Speaker 2>got demonetized for one word on a podcast, and so

1065
00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:41.519
<v Speaker 2>then I got really careful about because I want to

1066
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:43.360
<v Speaker 2>lose the channel. So I just started coming up with

1067
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:47.360
<v Speaker 2>crazy code words for everything, and even videos back then

1068
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:51.480
<v Speaker 2>that talked about Epstein were like getting demoted, So I

1069
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:55.199
<v Speaker 2>just started calling him Jeff Stein McAffrey. I don't know why,

1070
00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:58.400
<v Speaker 2>just everything's all coded mixed up, so I mean, we

1071
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:01.000
<v Speaker 2>probably can use the names I don't even know, but

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00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:04.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm still stuck in the mind of like twenty twenty

1073
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:08.079
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen code words. But anyway, it was just to

1074
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:09.880
<v Speaker 2>get around the algorithm's what I was calling him that.

1075
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:13.639
<v Speaker 2>But well, I'm sorry, what was the question.

1076
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember.

1077
00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:18.840
<v Speaker 2>We were talking about.

1078
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I was talking about the bait. Do you think,

1079
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:23.480
<v Speaker 1>oh Trump losing his base? Yeah, oh yeah, those two

1080
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:27.280
<v Speaker 1>big promises that the anti war president and the running

1081
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.800
<v Speaker 1>on the Jeffrey Epstein files being released, and then his

1082
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:31.760
<v Speaker 1>big gaff.

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00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:33.840
<v Speaker 2>The other day, Yeah, shutting down the well and then

1084
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:36.199
<v Speaker 2>he said he's gonna send we gotta we gotta send

1085
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:40.320
<v Speaker 2>more weapons to Zolensky. Well, I thought this whole photo

1086
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:43.360
<v Speaker 2>op thing where you were like talking down to him

1087
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:47.000
<v Speaker 2>like he was a punished child, remember that one Zelensky

1088
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 2>was sitting on a chair. He came to the work

1089
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:49.400
<v Speaker 2>in the thing.

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00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:52.079
<v Speaker 1>How that is insane? In the in the big kind

1091
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:57.159
<v Speaker 1>of uh yeah, a thing, Yeah, two little chairs and

1092
00:59:57.199 --> 00:59:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you know there's one hundred people around, you know, cameras

1093
00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:02.639
<v Speaker 1>is But meanwhile the picture comes out and most people

1094
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:04.079
<v Speaker 1>see that that I go, wow, they're having a heart

1095
01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:06.360
<v Speaker 1>to heart. But it's just that whole setup that too.

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01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Just seeing that picture, all of that was so bizarre.

1097
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:11.000
<v Speaker 2>He shows up that he's wearing like a He's wearing

1098
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:13.599
<v Speaker 2>like a I don't know, like a hoodie or something,

1099
01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:15.719
<v Speaker 2>and Trump starts making fun of what he's wearing. What

1100
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:18.800
<v Speaker 2>are you wearing? What is this guy's dressed like a hoodie?

1101
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:20.679
<v Speaker 2>What is you go to Walmart? You go to me,

1102
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.159
<v Speaker 2>to president? Why are you dressed like this? And then

1103
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:25.119
<v Speaker 2>it's like he's then he's talking down to him, and

1104
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Zelenski's like, but we have so much things to give.

1105
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:32.719
<v Speaker 2>When we will regret because of the water of oceans

1106
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:35.159
<v Speaker 2>and the sky and pray to good that it will

1107
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:37.880
<v Speaker 2>be bud. It's like just a bunch of gibberish. Anyway,

1108
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:41.320
<v Speaker 2>that whole thing was funny, but now it's like, you know,

1109
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:44.639
<v Speaker 2>we got to send more weapons to Zolenski. I thought

1110
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.360
<v Speaker 2>he was a crazy dictator, but yeah, this is this

1111
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:50.960
<v Speaker 2>is just bad. I mean, it's just stupid. I don't

1112
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:54.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I've never understood. I don't think anybody understands

1113
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:57.719
<v Speaker 2>the rationale of like the whole Trump thing. It's like

1114
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:01.599
<v Speaker 2>it's just maybe the whole maybe it's all just project chaos,

1115
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:03.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I mean like it's just nobody will

1116
01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:07.159
<v Speaker 2>ever figure out what's going on because it's so sort

1117
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:08.360
<v Speaker 2>of chaotic.

1118
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:11.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of the best explanation for it, is

1119
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:14.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of this planned chaos where it's just like we're

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01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:17.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna do this, We're gonna bounce back and forth, we're

1121
01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:20.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna flip flop, we're gonna, you know, one second call

1122
01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:23.400
<v Speaker 1>him a dictator, the next send him a bunch of weapons,

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01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:27.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like, what's even happened. They're even saying

1124
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:30.920
<v Speaker 1>that the I mean, I don't think it was, but

1125
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:37.679
<v Speaker 1>the when Ukraine attacked all the Russian air bases with drones,

1126
01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:40.480
<v Speaker 1>you're even seeing that was ai Like, you just don't

1127
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:43.280
<v Speaker 1>know what it's. It almost drives you crazy. You don't

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01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:46.119
<v Speaker 1>know what's what's kind of real anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, again, my wife just read a book by that

1130
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:55.559
<v Speaker 2>Silicon Valley whistleblower dude, if you remember him, Jaron lanny A.

1131
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:59.679
<v Speaker 2>He's like that big dude with like the dreads. He's

1132
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:01.519
<v Speaker 2>a wook. I guess I don't know if you know

1133
01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:05.679
<v Speaker 2>what a wook is, But what's like have you ever

1134
01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:09.840
<v Speaker 2>seen the like the dudes like millennials or or it's

1135
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:11.960
<v Speaker 2>probably just millennials in gen X, like the people that

1136
01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:15.039
<v Speaker 2>spend all their time at festivals, like festival kids. Yeah,

1137
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:17.559
<v Speaker 2>and then and then the white ones end up with

1138
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:20.760
<v Speaker 2>like they end up with giant dreads, So I guess

1139
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:23.840
<v Speaker 2>they look like wookies, so they get called wooks anyway,

1140
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Jeroon Lenny, is this the Silicon Valley wook dude? But

1141
01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:30.400
<v Speaker 2>he wrote a book in twenty eighteen that my wife

1142
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:33.679
<v Speaker 2>just read. It was really prophetic because he was talking

1143
01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:37.559
<v Speaker 2>about that Silicon Valley would in the coming years aka

1144
01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:40.639
<v Speaker 2>right now, roll out all this AI stuff, and he

1145
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:42.559
<v Speaker 2>was talking about what the purpose of it is, and

1146
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:44.960
<v Speaker 2>it was really fascinating conclusion to the chapter, and he

1147
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:47.840
<v Speaker 2>said the reason he left Silicon Valley and all that

1148
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:51.760
<v Speaker 2>was that it was all totally a manipulation plan. They

1149
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:56.719
<v Speaker 2>were planning to manipulate people with social media, he says,

1150
01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:03.920
<v Speaker 2>to create a kind of almost quasi religious attachment to AI.

1151
01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:06.360
<v Speaker 2>So he says that the purpose of it is to

1152
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:09.880
<v Speaker 2>get us addicted to it, reliant on it, not just

1153
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:13.440
<v Speaker 2>social media, but actually AI implemented into the social media.

1154
01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:17.679
<v Speaker 2>And he says that the Silicon Valley people themselves pretty

1155
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.559
<v Speaker 2>much view it like like it's a cult. So they

1156
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:22.199
<v Speaker 2>actually think it's going to be kind of a daily

1157
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:24.440
<v Speaker 2>sex mockin. And we've seen people like, no, you've all

1158
01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Harari speak this way. That guy that's in the Peterson Circles,

1159
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:32.880
<v Speaker 2>you're Vaki. He talks about Silicon Sages and that when

1160
01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:34.840
<v Speaker 2>when the bots roll out, you know, we'll have this

1161
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:39.400
<v Speaker 2>sort of like you know, religious leader Jesus Avatar bought

1162
01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:42.679
<v Speaker 2>walking around the Sage bot, right, and people will think, oh, yes,

1163
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:48.519
<v Speaker 2>here's our deity. He'll answer our questions and anyway he says.

1164
01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:52.280
<v Speaker 2>That was his warning, is that this is going towards

1165
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:55.840
<v Speaker 2>it kind of a cult. And even though the Silicon

1166
01:03:55.920 --> 01:04:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Valley guys know that it's just code, they don't have

1167
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:08.920
<v Speaker 2>a problem creating a cult around an entity that they program.

1168
01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, yeah there, And when you think about it,

1169
01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:16.119
<v Speaker 1>it is all programmed exactly, and sometimes it's so real,

1170
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:19.199
<v Speaker 1>especially Grock, I'm like, is this a person texting like

1171
01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:22.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know. I'm all, you just don't

1172
01:04:22.280 --> 01:04:24.480
<v Speaker 1>know what's real anymore. You don't know if it's you

1173
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:27.119
<v Speaker 1>just don't know anything. Do you think robots will take over?

1174
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Is that a fear?

1175
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:35.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it seems to be one of the things

1176
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:37.000
<v Speaker 2>we do on my channel is we lecture through a

1177
01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:41.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of the writings of the elite because I like

1178
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:45.679
<v Speaker 2>to stay away from too much speculation, so I like

1179
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.440
<v Speaker 2>to stay grounded in like what they're actually arguing in

1180
01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:51.079
<v Speaker 2>their policy papers, their white papers. They're big, you know,

1181
01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:55.519
<v Speaker 2>geopolitical texts. And we've been doing that for seven or

1182
01:04:55.519 --> 01:04:58.239
<v Speaker 2>eight years, and so we've gone through in that time span,

1183
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:02.320
<v Speaker 2>probably about sixty or seventy of their key texts. And

1184
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:07.800
<v Speaker 2>they definitely discuss openly a technocratic plan for sure, and

1185
01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:11.039
<v Speaker 2>that goes all the way back to HG. Wells, Lord Birkenhead,

1186
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:14.760
<v Speaker 2>bertrand Russell. They all talked about the Technocratic Plan one

1187
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:17.400
<v Speaker 2>hundred years ago, one hundred plus years ago. So that's

1188
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:20.679
<v Speaker 2>a real plan. That's a real thing that's rolling out.

1189
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:24.719
<v Speaker 2>As to the timeline, it's not, I don't know because

1190
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:27.320
<v Speaker 2>like when I go to the when I go to

1191
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:30.159
<v Speaker 2>the hotel, to Wi Fi ain't even work, So I

1192
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:31.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know how we're going to get sky net when

1193
01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:36.360
<v Speaker 2>like the Wi Fi doesn't work anywhere. But that's definitely

1194
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:41.360
<v Speaker 2>the plan. And if you remember, Klaus, I discovered this.

1195
01:05:41.480 --> 01:05:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Somebody sent me this in twenty twenty or Economic Format

1196
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:47.960
<v Speaker 2>put up this video on Twitter that they took down

1197
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:52.159
<v Speaker 2>eventually because it started going viral, and it was eight

1198
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:56.000
<v Speaker 2>or ten things to expect by twenty thirty, and it

1199
01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:59.239
<v Speaker 2>laid out pretty much everything that they want to get done,

1200
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:02.360
<v Speaker 2>not just by two twenty thirty, but the long term goals.

1201
01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:07.199
<v Speaker 2>And it was like in the US, the sovereignty change,

1202
01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:13.800
<v Speaker 2>the demographics of the West, AI drone runs everything. You

1203
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:17.639
<v Speaker 2>don't get to eat meat, you eat bugs, remember all

1204
01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:22.320
<v Speaker 2>that eat some us you don't get to do You

1205
01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:25.840
<v Speaker 2>basically work at home and live at home. This was

1206
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:27.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen when they put this video out, So this

1207
01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:32.960
<v Speaker 2>is pretty koof right, we might have the discovery of

1208
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:36.199
<v Speaker 2>alien life, which is I think just a big syop

1209
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:39.000
<v Speaker 2>in my view anyway. So it laid out all these

1210
01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:43.679
<v Speaker 2>things that and it included like technocratic running of everything.

1211
01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:49.320
<v Speaker 2>So that's definitely their plan. I don't think that. I mean,

1212
01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:51.280
<v Speaker 2>they definitely want that, but I don't know if they'll

1213
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:51.719
<v Speaker 2>get that.

1214
01:06:52.480 --> 01:06:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you think there's a there's a path to people

1215
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:56.320
<v Speaker 1>being less polarized or do you think it's only going

1216
01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to get worse.

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01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, it's only going to get worse because the techniques

1218
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:05.360
<v Speaker 2>of social engineering and psychological worker is so sophisticated and

1219
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:12.880
<v Speaker 2>people are so easily manipulated and radicalized. And I don't

1220
01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:14.559
<v Speaker 2>mean that in like the gay sense of how the

1221
01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:18.440
<v Speaker 2>media says teams are becoming radicalized on the Internet. I

1222
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:21.360
<v Speaker 2>mean in the real sense of like, for example, all

1223
01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:24.840
<v Speaker 2>of the so called red pill stuff and then the

1224
01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:30.079
<v Speaker 2>feminist stuff, like that's a key division issue to put

1225
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.000
<v Speaker 2>men and women at war with each other. So it's

1226
01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:35.639
<v Speaker 2>not just racial divide that I think they're really pushing.

1227
01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:41.039
<v Speaker 2>They're pushing generational divide, of which I helped because I've

1228
01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:43.679
<v Speaker 2>championed boomer jokes for the last ten years, so I

1229
01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:51.559
<v Speaker 2>had participated in the syop. But so generational hatred, societal hatred,

1230
01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:57.360
<v Speaker 2>racial hatred, class hatred, I think, and biological gender hatred.

1231
01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:02.079
<v Speaker 2>They're pushing all forms of that on purpose. I suspect

1232
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:06.440
<v Speaker 2>to collapse the existing system to bring in the technocratic system.

1233
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah, it's scary. Shit, man, the more you think

1234
01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:13.760
<v Speaker 1>about it, you'll drive yourself crazy thinking about it. Do

1235
01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:17.359
<v Speaker 1>you believe in aliens? I do not, Yeah, same, I

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<v Speaker 1>think like all this stuff, I mean, we'd have way

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<v Speaker 1>more evidence. All the evidence is just you know, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>has a phone. Now, you'd think there'd be way more

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<v Speaker 1>than grainy footage. And well, how would you explain the

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force pilots that came out and said that these

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01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:39.279
<v Speaker 1>things move like we never saw before, or the Malaysian flight,

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<v Speaker 1>the footage that came out with the free orbs around

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<v Speaker 1>it and that disappears. Do you think that's just a

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<v Speaker 1>big siop.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that's fake footage. I don't. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>accept it, just like we're saying with AI, like I don't.

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01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:53.039
<v Speaker 2>It's just hard to know or believe any of this

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01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:56.920
<v Speaker 2>stuff now, and you see it because anybody can make up,

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01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:01.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, get on Photoshop and create whatever they want,

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01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:03.640
<v Speaker 2>or you can just tell the AI to do it.

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01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Now you don't have to use photoshop. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I did an interview with some guys that wrote a

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01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:15.520
<v Speaker 2>really good book called Invoking the Beyond, and their whole

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<v Speaker 2>book is premised on how the whole alien mythos is

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01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:23.920
<v Speaker 2>a very useful sigh oup for technocracy actually, so it

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01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:27.239
<v Speaker 2>fits into this agenda very well. I mean, that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I said that even in that twenty sixteen or Economic

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01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:34.279
<v Speaker 2>Foreign video, you know, Klaus had alien life as one

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<v Speaker 2>of the ten, eight or ten things to expect by

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirty. So I would just say that this is

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<v Speaker 2>totally a planned thing. Go back to HG. Wells. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>many people are familiar with his fiction writings, but one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things we did on my channel was we

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<v Speaker 2>dissected a lot of his nonfiction books. And he was

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<v Speaker 2>a master propagandist. He was kind of Edward Burnese before

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01:09:56.159 --> 01:10:00.119
<v Speaker 2>Edward Burnes. He was utilized for some of the the

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<v Speaker 2>earliest warfare propaganda posters. If you ever see that poster

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<v Speaker 2>of the Hunt, which is to demonize Eurasian peoples to

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01:10:09.159 --> 01:10:12.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of prepare England for World War One, if I recall,

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01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:16.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, he was doing all that at a very

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01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:20.840
<v Speaker 2>sophisticated level and figuring out back then that fiction was

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01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:25.279
<v Speaker 2>a lot more powerful to propagandize people than fact was.

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01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:30.720
<v Speaker 2>And so you're able to tap into the imagination with

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01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:33.800
<v Speaker 2>fiction in a way that you just can't do with boring,

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01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:37.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, news repeaters. And so the reason we believe

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<v Speaker 2>in aliens isn't I don't, but I mean the population

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<v Speaker 2>on in mass is because of a. She Wells. It's

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01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:51.199
<v Speaker 2>because of people who are known psychological warfare master Propaganda's

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I studied in grad school, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not just talking out of my ass, like

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01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I actually have studied propaganda, psychological warfare, and so you know,

1282
01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:02.720
<v Speaker 2>he wrote War the Worlds, you know other texts that

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01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:07.880
<v Speaker 2>became really kind of almost the bible for sci fi dorks,

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01:11:08.079 --> 01:11:12.000
<v Speaker 2>and that filtered out into you know, pop culture, and

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01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:15.399
<v Speaker 2>that's really where we get the belief in aliens. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not from actual facts or evidences or scientific peer review

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01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:25.119
<v Speaker 2>studies or whatever. It's because of pop culture. And the

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01:11:25.159 --> 01:11:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Collins Brothers, I think did a really good job. And

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01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:31.079
<v Speaker 2>it's a giant, massive book, but the middle three or

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01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:35.479
<v Speaker 2>four hundred pages is actually just about the alien si

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01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:37.199
<v Speaker 2>op And I mean they go really deep into like

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<v Speaker 2>MJ twelve and you know, Project Blue Book and all

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01:11:41.079 --> 01:11:47.079
<v Speaker 2>this stuff, and you know, the sus people involved from

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<v Speaker 2>the very gig go. If you look at, for example,

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01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:55.800
<v Speaker 2>the Georgia Damski story, he's like the first famous abductee.

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<v Speaker 2>It turns out that his story was actually borrowed from

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01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:01.840
<v Speaker 2>some like crappy whole science fiction novel.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is like, yeah, they say he's like the

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<v Speaker 1>most credible adept abductee story.

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<v Speaker 2>The most credible is the guy who says that he

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01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:12.720
<v Speaker 2>went up on a Venusian ship and he saw giant

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01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:16.600
<v Speaker 2>titted uh, you know, aliens who wanted to get frisky

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01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:19.439
<v Speaker 2>and touch butts. I mean, by the way, it's like,

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01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:21.560
<v Speaker 2>why are the aliens just going in butts? Dude?

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01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:24.000
<v Speaker 1>This is so freaking gay.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, that's a whole other thing. Like I don't I'm

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01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:29.880
<v Speaker 2>thinking about doing trying to do some stand up, and

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01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:32.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you guys are the masters, So I just

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01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:34.359
<v Speaker 2>stand it. When I was like eighteen and it was fun.

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01:12:34.520 --> 01:12:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I did some you know, like amateur nights or whatever.

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01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:39.720
<v Speaker 2>But I haven't really done stand up proper since, so

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01:12:39.760 --> 01:12:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it'll work or if it's I

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01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:47.119
<v Speaker 2>feel like I can write, Please help me. What What's

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01:12:47.159 --> 01:12:49.000
<v Speaker 2>that I was gonna say? I feel like I can

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01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:51.279
<v Speaker 2>come up with funny ideas, and I get funny ideas

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01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:53.239
<v Speaker 2>for sketches and impressions. I just don't know how well

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01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:56.640
<v Speaker 2>that would translate into like a standard routine. But well,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's something with aliens touching butts, Like

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<v Speaker 2>there's something.

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<v Speaker 1>First that's hilarious. And again, there's only one way to

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01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:04.840
<v Speaker 1>find out. You just got to do it. Man. I

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01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:10.239
<v Speaker 1>heard someone recently described comedy as comedians. Specifically, they go,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you think in life, whatever your philosophies are, or

1324
01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:17.079
<v Speaker 1>your beliefs and all this, and that there's someone in

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01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:19.600
<v Speaker 1>comedy that's talking about it on stage, so kind of

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01:13:20.479 --> 01:13:23.399
<v Speaker 1>so it will it will land If you think it's funny,

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01:13:23.399 --> 01:13:25.800
<v Speaker 1>there's someone out there that thinks the same way as

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<v Speaker 1>you do, and you should do. What part of Florida

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01:13:28.840 --> 01:13:29.239
<v Speaker 1>are you in?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so here's my it's perfect. So we're North Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's a question for you in regard to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a bunch of stand up friends. I always

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<v Speaker 2>ask them this question. One thing I'm concerned about is like,

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01:13:41.039 --> 01:13:44.239
<v Speaker 2>so when we do live events, we bring people who

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01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:46.600
<v Speaker 2>like our stuff, and that's sort of my niche audience.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't exactly do we do a lot of

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01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:51.199
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, Like we I'll do like twenty or

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01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:53.399
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes of impressions and crowd work and kind of

1339
01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:56.520
<v Speaker 2>riffing and making fun of people. But it's not properly speaking,

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01:13:56.600 --> 01:14:00.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, stand up per se. So my question is

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01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:02.520
<v Speaker 2>this One thing that concerns me is I feel like,

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01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:06.880
<v Speaker 2>especially if you do kind of obscurantists or sort of

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01:14:07.319 --> 01:14:10.520
<v Speaker 2>alt comedy or something like that. Like if I was

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01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:12.560
<v Speaker 2>to just go do stand up, I feel like like

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01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:15.960
<v Speaker 2>the normy audience would just be like, what the hell

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01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:17.960
<v Speaker 2>is this? I feel like it just wouldn't even land,

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01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:21.439
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like, do you feel like

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01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:25.800
<v Speaker 2>you have to build kind of a native fan base

1349
01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:28.119
<v Speaker 2>that likes what you do or do you think that

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01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:30.920
<v Speaker 2>you could just kind of go rough shot, like into

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01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:33.840
<v Speaker 2>like a any kind of random event with a bunch

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01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:36.479
<v Speaker 2>of normies and like could you pull it off? You

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01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:37.000
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do a corporate event, that's for sure, but

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01:14:40.119 --> 01:14:42.760
<v Speaker 1>like any sort of club or anything, you'll find people

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01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:45.000
<v Speaker 1>that will relate to you. But you're already Jay doing

1357
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:49.359
<v Speaker 1>it because you're going to your events, you have your

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01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:52.560
<v Speaker 1>fan base coming out, you're doing impressions and comedy, and

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01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that is stand up. I mean, comedy evolves. It's not

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01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:58.439
<v Speaker 1>the evening at the improv from the eighties and nineties,

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01:14:58.479 --> 01:15:01.159
<v Speaker 1>you know that kind of even that cadence is kind

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01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:04.119
<v Speaker 1>of dying off. It's and you know what, if you

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01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:05.960
<v Speaker 1>were to do it and put on an event not

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01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:07.720
<v Speaker 1>in a comedy club, but put on your own event,

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01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:08.960
<v Speaker 1>it'd be the same thing as that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>events you're doing now, it'd be the same people coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean in comedy they say it takes like

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<v Speaker 1>ten years to be good. It's going to have to

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01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:19.039
<v Speaker 1>build an audience. But you already have an audience. So

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01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:22.800
<v Speaker 1>half the battle right there. And I mean, sure you

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01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:24.640
<v Speaker 1>can argue it's an echo chamber or whatever, but it

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01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:28.159
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really matter. I mean, you're doing it. You're you know,

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01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:31.439
<v Speaker 1>instilling joy and people making them laugh with your funny

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01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:34.199
<v Speaker 1>thoughts and your impressions and all this that really is

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01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:37.359
<v Speaker 1>stand up now. It's really evolved, especially now with podcasts

1376
01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:39.880
<v Speaker 1>you have to have one. It kind of bleeds into,

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01:15:40.359 --> 01:15:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, the pot I write a lot of my

1378
01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:44.399
<v Speaker 1>material on the podcast because you don't have that pressure

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01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:46.119
<v Speaker 1>of an audience of so many laughs for a minute

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01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:49.039
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. So a lot of my ideas I'll hash

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01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:51.880
<v Speaker 1>out and just talk about on the podcast as long

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01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:54.800
<v Speaker 1>as it's captivating behind a mic, and then you kind

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01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:57.640
<v Speaker 1>of work it out on stage find the beats. But honestly,

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01:15:57.680 --> 01:16:02.880
<v Speaker 1>you're quite frankly already doing in your typical classic comedy

1385
01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:06.680
<v Speaker 1>club with a mixed audience of all sorts. I mean,

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01:16:07.039 --> 01:16:11.960
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really matter truly, and because because the whole

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01:16:11.960 --> 01:16:15.800
<v Speaker 1>point in comedy is doing those rooms, filtering out the

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01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:18.279
<v Speaker 1>people that don't like you, building an audience to where

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01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:20.840
<v Speaker 1>you perform people that think like you, like minded people,

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01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:22.239
<v Speaker 1>and you're already there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's so basically, it's not like you're

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01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:30.279
<v Speaker 2>going to be cold, like you're going to just be

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01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:33.000
<v Speaker 2>doing an audience that has no idea who you are.

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01:16:33.439 --> 01:16:35.640
<v Speaker 2>You're kind of already even if you're doing if you're

1395
01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:37.800
<v Speaker 2>doing stand up regularly, it's people who are coming to

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01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:38.239
<v Speaker 2>see your.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff for the most part. I mean, I do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of up here in Canada. It's a little different

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<v Speaker 1>than in the States, just on sheer volume alone, on population.

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01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're only thirty million people in this vast country.

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01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Even flying our flights are so expensive for the West Coast,

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01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:56.439
<v Speaker 1>it's twenty five dollars return. You know, it's just not feasible.

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01:16:56.520 --> 01:17:01.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's just like, yeah, you just kind of so

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01:17:02.239 --> 01:17:04.119
<v Speaker 1>up here. It's different in the sense that my bread

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01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and Butter is corporate gigs, so it's their soul sucking.

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01:17:07.439 --> 01:17:10.760
<v Speaker 1>They're almost always brutal and not fun. Once in a

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01:17:10.760 --> 01:17:12.720
<v Speaker 1>while you get a fun one, but I mean they

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01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:16.159
<v Speaker 1>pay extremely well. And then I'll do my club runs.

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01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll do my headline weeks at certain clubs and whatever.

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01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:21.960
<v Speaker 1>But so it's a little different here. So I'll perform too.

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01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:24.319
<v Speaker 1>I'll perform to full audiences that don't know me. I

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01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:27.039
<v Speaker 1>just did a show last week for a corporate gig.

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01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing stand up for almost nineteen years, and

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01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:33.039
<v Speaker 1>they hated me. And I was still like, oh wow,

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01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess you still have this feeling on stage. The

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01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:38.600
<v Speaker 1>difference is you don't really care at this stage. Also

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01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:42.880
<v Speaker 1>another point is when you start doing stand up in

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01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:45.640
<v Speaker 1>your twenties or whatnot, it takes years because you just

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01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:47.840
<v Speaker 1>don't have the life experience. So when you go talk

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<v Speaker 1>to a room full of people, they don't give a

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01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:52.800
<v Speaker 1>shit about what's happening with your roommate and all this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, So as you get older, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we might be around the same age. You have life experience,

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01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:03.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of don't give a shit as much, which people

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01:18:03.960 --> 01:18:06.960
<v Speaker 1>can feel, and people like that. You know, there's nothing

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01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that will kill a set more than fear. If they

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01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:12.439
<v Speaker 1>can smell fear, it's when they smell blood. It's over.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so with your life experience, you would kind

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01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:20.720
<v Speaker 1>of shrink that that time period where they say it

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01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:23.000
<v Speaker 1>takes ten years or whatever, you drink it drastically with

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<v Speaker 1>because you just don't care, because you have more, you

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01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:28.359
<v Speaker 1>have bigger life problems, like like I I'm going through

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<v Speaker 1>a separation now and divorce actually, and it's just like

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01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't care what an audience thinks about you when

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01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:41.239
<v Speaker 1>you're going through something so difficult, you just don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>And that comes across and it helps the performance. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if people kind of gravitate.

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<v Speaker 2>To sorry to hear that. Man, are you gonna live

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01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:50.439
<v Speaker 2>with your mom or your dad?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? My sister.

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01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:57.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean like what if the divorce was your parents?

1442
01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:02.760
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, yeah, because going through a divorce doesn't necessarily

1443
01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:05.079
<v Speaker 2>mean you and your wife. It could mean that my

1444
01:19:05.119 --> 01:19:08.199
<v Speaker 2>parents are getting understobed. Parents don't usually divorce when they're

1445
01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:10.439
<v Speaker 2>like senior citizens, although sometimes they do.

1446
01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:13.079
<v Speaker 1>But I know a couple that divorced after like thirty

1447
01:19:13.079 --> 01:19:13.880
<v Speaker 1>five years marriage.

1448
01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, thing, and you go, what happened as well?

1449
01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Just do it? Yeah?

1450
01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they had the kids that are like

1451
01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:21.199
<v Speaker 1>in their thirties and they and they split and you go,

1452
01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that's fascinating when I hear, oh my god, how like,

1453
01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:27.920
<v Speaker 1>did you guys just white knucklet this whole time?

1454
01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:31.520
<v Speaker 2>And just finally, my grandmother before she passed away, she

1455
01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:35.920
<v Speaker 2>had a lifelong boyfriend and the boyfriend was a doctor

1456
01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:41.560
<v Speaker 2>who was with a woman who would never divorce him

1457
01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:44.119
<v Speaker 2>because she didn't believe in divorce. So basically it was

1458
01:19:44.119 --> 01:19:49.359
<v Speaker 2>this really bizarre setup where the doctor's house had two houses,

1459
01:19:50.399 --> 01:19:53.479
<v Speaker 2>like the split house. Yeah, and every day he would

1460
01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:56.960
<v Speaker 2>drive over to my grandmother's house. They spend the entire

1461
01:19:57.039 --> 01:19:59.439
<v Speaker 2>day there together and then he drives home to his

1462
01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:02.720
<v Speaker 2>house with his wife. It was it was a wild situation,

1463
01:20:02.800 --> 01:20:04.439
<v Speaker 2>but they did that their whole lives. It's crazy.

1464
01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Well you see that. That's fascinating when you hear someone

1465
01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:08.720
<v Speaker 1>doing it their whole life, because you see that when

1466
01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:11.920
<v Speaker 1>people are on there when they were married and they're

1467
01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:14.119
<v Speaker 1>divorced and dating again for a long time. Like my

1468
01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:16.680
<v Speaker 1>sister's been dating with this guy for ten years now.

1469
01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:22.199
<v Speaker 1>She's divorced, and I'm starting to think it's us my family,

1470
01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:27.680
<v Speaker 1>But they have separate homes for ten years now, and

1471
01:20:27.720 --> 01:20:31.199
<v Speaker 1>they you know, they have a happy relationship there, but

1472
01:20:31.319 --> 01:20:34.880
<v Speaker 1>they and they'll spend nights at each other's houses obviously,

1473
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:37.600
<v Speaker 1>but every once in a while they just you know,

1474
01:20:37.760 --> 01:20:40.840
<v Speaker 1>have some space. They have their own kind of thing going.

1475
01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:43.239
<v Speaker 1>And I've heard that a lot of people dating again

1476
01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:46.399
<v Speaker 1>in their forties or fifties, where they each have their

1477
01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:49.199
<v Speaker 1>own home and both are okay with that. They don't

1478
01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:51.520
<v Speaker 1>even want to move in together. So it's kind of

1479
01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:55.359
<v Speaker 1>a fascinating thing. It makes you wonder if we're meant

1480
01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:58.479
<v Speaker 1>to live with someone that long. How long have you

1481
01:20:58.479 --> 01:20:59.239
<v Speaker 1>been you've been married?

1482
01:21:00.319 --> 01:21:01.720
<v Speaker 2>We are five years now.

1483
01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh nice, that's great. Just to circle back, this is

1484
01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:11.600
<v Speaker 1>strictly for our listeners and not me. What's technocratic when

1485
01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:14.279
<v Speaker 1>you say, you've mentioned that term a couple of times.

1486
01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:16.880
<v Speaker 2>So this is the idea that came out in the

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01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:22.119
<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenties from certain pretty extreme socialists who were kind

1488
01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:24.960
<v Speaker 2>of ahead of their time in the sense of thinking

1489
01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:30.359
<v Speaker 2>that the future should be run by managerial experts. And

1490
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:34.520
<v Speaker 2>as technology advanced, this idea developed more and more in

1491
01:21:34.520 --> 01:21:39.840
<v Speaker 2>the direction of tech experts. So essentially the idea that

1492
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:42.760
<v Speaker 2>technology and Silicon Valley and this kind of a thing

1493
01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:48.000
<v Speaker 2>would be the actual system and power structure of the future.

1494
01:21:48.520 --> 01:21:50.119
<v Speaker 2>One of the books that we spent a lot of

1495
01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:53.520
<v Speaker 2>time lecturing through was Carol Quigley's Tragy and Hope, and

1496
01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:57.920
<v Speaker 2>he was a really important geopolitical strategist, an apologist for

1497
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:01.720
<v Speaker 2>the system. He was Bill Clinton's mentor at Georgetown, and

1498
01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:03.920
<v Speaker 2>he wrote a lot of these big kind of tell

1499
01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:08.199
<v Speaker 2>all books, not as a whistleblower but as a defender

1500
01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:11.039
<v Speaker 2>of the power structure in the system. And in the

1501
01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:14.079
<v Speaker 2>middle chapter that big fat book Treasuring Hope, he says

1502
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:18.680
<v Speaker 2>the government and system of the future will be megacities

1503
01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:22.239
<v Speaker 2>run by AI supercomputers. So they were saying this again

1504
01:22:22.920 --> 01:22:25.199
<v Speaker 2>way back. He wrote that during the Cold Warn in

1505
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:31.199
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixties, and then in nineteen seventy three Brazinski wrote

1506
01:22:31.239 --> 01:22:36.399
<v Speaker 2>a really important book called Between Two Ages, the Technocratic

1507
01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Era or Technotronic Era. So that book is another one

1508
01:22:40.239 --> 01:22:43.239
<v Speaker 2>of the key texts talking about how the future will

1509
01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:49.920
<v Speaker 2>be a government by computer basically, so AI, Skynet, Internet

1510
01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:54.920
<v Speaker 2>of Things, all of that is what's meant by and

1511
01:22:55.239 --> 01:22:58.560
<v Speaker 2>perhaps transhumanism as well. The same people push transhumanism. So

1512
01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:02.920
<v Speaker 2>when we see you know people, if you remember when

1513
01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Zuckerberg was saying it's gonna be so great because we're

1514
01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:10.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna have Ubi. Basically you can live inside of a

1515
01:23:10.079 --> 01:23:13.359
<v Speaker 2>com pod and you're gonna get a universal basic income.

1516
01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:19.039
<v Speaker 2>So the universal basic income idea, that's an ancient I

1517
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:22.000
<v Speaker 2>say ancient. That's a one hundred year old technocratic model where

1518
01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:24.840
<v Speaker 2>even Bertrand Russell and his books, he says that in

1519
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:28.039
<v Speaker 2>the future of technocracy, you're you're just gonna get like

1520
01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:32.279
<v Speaker 2>credits from the system, and that's the money of the future,

1521
01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:35.720
<v Speaker 2>and it'll be some kind of you know, digital system. Right,

1522
01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:37.800
<v Speaker 2>he didn't say digital, but basically that was the idea,

1523
01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:41.560
<v Speaker 2>and they'll control you through that. So when we hear

1524
01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:46.199
<v Speaker 2>about things like Ubi, social credit score, you know, Stabby

1525
01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:49.680
<v Speaker 2>passport tracking and tracing, all of that is part of technocracy.

1526
01:23:50.159 --> 01:23:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever watch Black Mirror?

1527
01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, yeah. In fact, my third the third book

1528
01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:59.039
<v Speaker 2>that's coming out in a couple of weeks, has twenty

1529
01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:02.680
<v Speaker 2>page say on Black Mirror, the first three all the

1530
01:24:02.720 --> 01:24:03.600
<v Speaker 2>first three seasons.

1531
01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the most amazing show. And they have an episode

1532
01:24:07.039 --> 01:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>on the social credit and it's that's the thing with

1533
01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Black Mirror that I like. It's like it's from the

1534
01:24:11.640 --> 01:24:14.079
<v Speaker 1>dystopian future, but only like seven years from that. It's

1535
01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:16.159
<v Speaker 1>not that far fetched. You can kind of relate to

1536
01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:19.439
<v Speaker 1>you go, oh shit, where like that that's around the corner.

1537
01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I like the one where the girl I think

1538
01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:26.359
<v Speaker 2>it was first season, the one where the girl gets

1539
01:24:26.479 --> 01:24:29.359
<v Speaker 2>basically taken to a theme park where it's her own

1540
01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:32.800
<v Speaker 2>life but it's all fake, and that she doesn't know

1541
01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>if it's real or if she really did these things.

1542
01:24:34.760 --> 01:24:37.520
<v Speaker 2>That one was a genius. The black guy on the

1543
01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:40.279
<v Speaker 2>on the exercise Pokemon bike is trying to shut off

1544
01:24:40.279 --> 01:24:43.159
<v Speaker 2>the ads. That one was genius. Yeah, that first season

1545
01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:48.359
<v Speaker 2>had some real bangers in it. And then yeah, yeah,

1546
01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:52.800
<v Speaker 2>yeah exactly. And even that one with like David Cameron

1547
01:24:53.399 --> 01:24:55.880
<v Speaker 2>and the pig stuff, I thought that was really really

1548
01:24:55.960 --> 01:24:59.520
<v Speaker 2>curious if you remember that was the pilot. Yeah, the pilot,

1549
01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:01.920
<v Speaker 2>And I think the was a guy's named David Brooker

1550
01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:03.800
<v Speaker 2>or something, the guy that wrote it. He was like, yeah,

1551
01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:07.880
<v Speaker 2>this does curiously sort of parallel with the David Cameron

1552
01:25:07.880 --> 01:25:10.399
<v Speaker 2>pig Story's.

1553
01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Chris Chris Brooker. I think, yeah, the one with John

1554
01:25:14.399 --> 01:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Ham where you have your assistant that like your consciousness.

1555
01:25:17.199 --> 01:25:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, where he was like, was that the one

1556
01:25:18.880 --> 01:25:22.079
<v Speaker 2>where he was trying to teach dudes how to get chicks?

1557
01:25:22.119 --> 01:25:24.520
<v Speaker 2>He's like a he's like a pickup artist, like coach.

1558
01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I think there's two. He's in two, I believe.

1559
01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, never mind, that's that one.

1560
01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:29.880
<v Speaker 1>There's the other one where there's a little like a

1561
01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>little it's like your AI assistant, but it's your call.

1562
01:25:32.680 --> 01:25:34.920
<v Speaker 2>He gets trapped in like a snowball snow globe.

1563
01:25:35.159 --> 01:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you're like put your consciousness in this machine

1564
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>and this the entity in the machine knows your life

1565
01:25:43.119 --> 01:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>and has this thing. But to train it, they would

1566
01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>like put it on pause, which would be weeks at

1567
01:25:46.800 --> 01:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a time of just being in this white kind.

1568
01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:49.439
<v Speaker 2>Of yes room.

1569
01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:53.199
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah again, It's there episodes that really stick with

1570
01:25:53.239 --> 01:25:55.279
<v Speaker 1>you and you think about it for for days. How

1571
01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>did they come up with it?

1572
01:25:56.319 --> 01:25:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? That was wild. I remember that one did stick

1573
01:25:58.359 --> 01:26:00.279
<v Speaker 2>with me. It was a it was a Christmas spatch too,

1574
01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:02.560
<v Speaker 2>and I remember watching it at Christmas and I was like, damn,

1575
01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>that's crazy. And then did you see the one, uh

1576
01:26:06.840 --> 01:26:12.359
<v Speaker 2>that was maybe a couple years back, the Miley Cyrus episode. Yep,

1577
01:26:12.600 --> 01:26:14.680
<v Speaker 2>that one was that one was great because that was like,

1578
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:17.239
<v Speaker 2>what if they're just stealing ship from the pop stars

1579
01:26:17.239 --> 01:26:19.199
<v Speaker 2>and they're going to create like an AI pop star,

1580
01:26:19.399 --> 01:26:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Like now, we're at the point where they're actually rolling

1581
01:26:21.520 --> 01:26:22.760
<v Speaker 2>out AI pop stars.

1582
01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:27.319
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, it's a scary world that we live in. Jay,

1583
01:26:27.359 --> 01:26:30.399
<v Speaker 1>what's your when you see we when we go to

1584
01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>LA and stuff? Is it for live shows and stuff

1585
01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you tour you tour the podcast.

1586
01:26:34.319 --> 01:26:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Around or well yeah, so basically, yeah, we we did.

1587
01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Ah it's actually Sam Tripley have to always have to

1588
01:26:41.119 --> 01:26:49.840
<v Speaker 2>give props. I love to do my Sam Tripley laugh there. Uh.

1589
01:26:50.079 --> 01:26:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Sam Tripley was like, dude, you gotta do a lot

1590
01:26:53.279 --> 01:26:56.600
<v Speaker 2>of shows, dupe, and I was like, live shows. I

1591
01:26:56.680 --> 01:26:59.399
<v Speaker 2>never thought about that. So he's the one that suggested,

1592
01:26:59.479 --> 01:27:02.439
<v Speaker 2>like three years ago, start doing live shows. And so

1593
01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I was like, all right, let's try it out. And

1594
01:27:04.319 --> 01:27:06.439
<v Speaker 2>we did one in Nashville, and the idea was to

1595
01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:09.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of make it a mixed media event where I

1596
01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:14.640
<v Speaker 2>do the comedic stuff, I do about thirty impressions, try

1597
01:27:14.680 --> 01:27:17.119
<v Speaker 2>to you know, do crowd work and that kind of stuff.

1598
01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Then my wife does a talk on the subject matters

1599
01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:22.680
<v Speaker 2>that she covers in her books. She does a lot

1600
01:27:22.680 --> 01:27:25.560
<v Speaker 2>of esthetery Colleywood type stuff as well, So she does

1601
01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>about an hour lecture on that, and then I do

1602
01:27:29.399 --> 01:27:31.439
<v Speaker 2>an hour lecture and that it did really well, so

1603
01:27:31.479 --> 01:27:33.680
<v Speaker 2>we decided to keep doing that. I think the first

1604
01:27:33.800 --> 01:27:36.359
<v Speaker 2>year twenty twenty three, we did like seven live events

1605
01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:39.079
<v Speaker 2>and one of those was LA. We did Austin, we

1606
01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:44.720
<v Speaker 2>did Orlando, Nashville, and we had so much fun in

1607
01:27:44.840 --> 01:27:49.319
<v Speaker 2>LA that we reached out to Jamie Kennedy and got

1608
01:27:49.399 --> 01:27:51.479
<v Speaker 2>him and talked him into doing a show with us,

1609
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:55.439
<v Speaker 2>which was which was a lot of fun, nice and yeah, Dad,

1610
01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:57.479
<v Speaker 2>what do you want me to do? You need to

1611
01:27:57.479 --> 01:28:00.640
<v Speaker 2>just shign autographs and may just stand that lay line.

1612
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:04.760
<v Speaker 2>And it's funny because he always shows up, like because

1613
01:28:04.760 --> 01:28:06.600
<v Speaker 2>we've done two shows with him now, he shows up

1614
01:28:06.680 --> 01:28:08.640
<v Speaker 2>after I've done the impression of him, and I always

1615
01:28:08.640 --> 01:28:10.319
<v Speaker 2>want him to be there when I'm doing the impression.

1616
01:28:10.399 --> 01:28:13.279
<v Speaker 2>He's like totally Hollywood, so he like shows up when

1617
01:28:14.279 --> 01:28:18.119
<v Speaker 2>the gig is starting. Anyway. Yeah, So we started doing

1618
01:28:18.159 --> 01:28:20.760
<v Speaker 2>these events with Jamie Kennedy and then we decided to

1619
01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:25.239
<v Speaker 2>do a podcast tour. That's what we did this go round.

1620
01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:27.760
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't do any live events this time. In LA.

1621
01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:30.880
<v Speaker 2>I went and did we did the Hodge Twins, and

1622
01:28:30.920 --> 01:28:34.159
<v Speaker 2>we did Rousalom's podcast, and we did Tripoli and we

1623
01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:40.239
<v Speaker 2>did whatever podcast, which was insane. I don't know if

1624
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, but like the if you stay for the panel,

1625
01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize this. You're basically locked in there with

1626
01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:48.000
<v Speaker 2>all the hose for like eight hours and it's like

1627
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:50.199
<v Speaker 2>it's one hundred degrees in there. Yeah.

1628
01:28:50.920 --> 01:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Well I knew that just from watching clips. I didn't

1629
01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:59.279
<v Speaker 1>remember a couple episodes. I saw Andrew Wilson and he

1630
01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:02.239
<v Speaker 1>was like, it's so hot here, and but I didn't

1631
01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>realize it was like eight hours.

1632
01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:06.279
<v Speaker 2>It's eight hours the second so the day I went,

1633
01:29:06.359 --> 01:29:09.359
<v Speaker 2>we had that debate with that stupid feminist girl, the

1634
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:13.399
<v Speaker 2>Destiny Female Destiny, and then they're like, oh, you want

1635
01:29:13.399 --> 01:29:15.520
<v Speaker 2>to stay for the panel, but yeah, sure, I'm thinking, okay,

1636
01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:18.279
<v Speaker 2>the panel is what another two hours the next day? Yeah? Sure,

1637
01:29:18.359 --> 01:29:20.600
<v Speaker 2>No eight hours the next day and I'm like what

1638
01:29:21.279 --> 01:29:23.239
<v Speaker 2>And you're locked up in his like you know, his

1639
01:29:23.239 --> 01:29:26.399
<v Speaker 2>his studio thing there, like it's a key entry. So

1640
01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:28.479
<v Speaker 2>it's like some kind of this some sort of weird

1641
01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:32.199
<v Speaker 2>m cultural like like humiliation ritual. And I mean, I

1642
01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:33.840
<v Speaker 2>had a great time. I'm not trying to be a

1643
01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:36.239
<v Speaker 2>dick to Brian and whatever. It's just it's just a

1644
01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:40.680
<v Speaker 2>wild experience and then you're basically talking to these you know,

1645
01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:45.359
<v Speaker 2>of models for eight hours and it was wild. Yeah.

1646
01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:48.319
<v Speaker 2>I love those clips, but it's no, it actually has

1647
01:29:48.319 --> 01:29:50.680
<v Speaker 2>one hundred degrees in there. For some reason, there's not

1648
01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>a c I don't know what's going on, but I

1649
01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:57.319
<v Speaker 2>mean you're just sitting there sweating and it's just anyway,

1650
01:29:57.880 --> 01:30:01.359
<v Speaker 2>long story short, we did a whole a podcast tour

1651
01:30:01.880 --> 01:30:04.439
<v Speaker 2>this time around, but we do want to probably get

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01:30:04.439 --> 01:30:06.279
<v Speaker 2>back to doing more of those live events because I

1653
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:08.840
<v Speaker 2>have so much fun doing those. Those are more fun.

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01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:11.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, podcasts are great, but like as you know,

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01:30:11.439 --> 01:30:13.479
<v Speaker 2>being a stand up, like, there's just something about like

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01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:17.359
<v Speaker 2>the live audience and the interaction and the improv and

1657
01:30:17.439 --> 01:30:20.920
<v Speaker 2>all of that that that's so much fun. But yeah,

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01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:23.399
<v Speaker 2>so we intend to do more of those, and especially

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01:30:23.399 --> 01:30:25.279
<v Speaker 2>now that the third book's coming out in a couple

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01:30:25.319 --> 01:30:28.840
<v Speaker 2>of weeks, I'll probably do some more live events pushing

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01:30:28.840 --> 01:30:29.159
<v Speaker 2>the book.

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01:30:30.079 --> 01:30:32.800
<v Speaker 1>That's great. What else would you like to plug? My friend?

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01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:37.399
<v Speaker 2>Hey, thanks for having me. I'm gonna definitely you know,

1664
01:30:37.520 --> 01:30:41.399
<v Speaker 2>spread this weird try to promote you know, your stuff,

1665
01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:43.319
<v Speaker 2>and thanks for having me on. This is really cool.

1666
01:30:43.359 --> 01:30:46.479
<v Speaker 2>I always love actually my favorite podcast or just talking

1667
01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:49.760
<v Speaker 2>to comedians. That's that's way more fun than all this

1668
01:30:49.960 --> 01:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>like dark bullshit. All this dark stuff gets old and

1669
01:30:56.159 --> 01:30:57.920
<v Speaker 2>most of the time when people invite you on, they

1670
01:30:57.960 --> 01:31:00.520
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about some serious thing and I'm just like,

1671
01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I'd rather just joke around and have fun. But yeah,

1672
01:31:04.359 --> 01:31:07.479
<v Speaker 2>So usually host the fourth hour of Lord of Voldemort

1673
01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:10.800
<v Speaker 2>on Fridays, but sometimes it changes. At least once a

1674
01:31:10.840 --> 01:31:12.479
<v Speaker 2>week I do that. I've been doing that for five years.

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01:31:12.479 --> 01:31:14.279
<v Speaker 2>You can always catch me over there at Info Wars.

1676
01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Don't know if I'll be back on Peers. I would

1677
01:31:17.319 --> 01:31:21.319
<v Speaker 2>love to go back if they invite me back, but anyway, Yeah,

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01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:23.119
<v Speaker 2>you could just find me on my channel. I've been

1679
01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:26.800
<v Speaker 2>doing two or three live streams a week for the

1680
01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:30.840
<v Speaker 2>last five years, so I have probably multiple live streams

1681
01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:32.399
<v Speaker 2>upcoming in the next couple of weeks. You want to

1682
01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:34.039
<v Speaker 2>watch that stuff, and we do a lot of just

1683
01:31:34.119 --> 01:31:38.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of goofy riffing on clips and videos and Q

1684
01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:41.640
<v Speaker 2>and a sometimes calling debates. So that's what I do

1685
01:31:41.680 --> 01:31:43.760
<v Speaker 2>on my channel. You can follow me on X and

1686
01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>then if you want to get start Carly WITHO three

1687
01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be coming out in a couple of

1688
01:31:47.760 --> 01:31:50.319
<v Speaker 2>weeks and you can get pre orders at the website

1689
01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:53.399
<v Speaker 2>in my shop, and all the copies are signed. So

1690
01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:56.039
<v Speaker 2>the advantage of getting it for me is that it

1691
01:31:56.079 --> 01:31:58.000
<v Speaker 2>is signed. You don't have to request it being signed.

1692
01:31:58.600 --> 01:32:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't get it from Jeff Bezos. I don't get anything

1693
01:32:00.760 --> 01:32:02.079
<v Speaker 2>if you buy it from Jeff Bezos.

1694
01:32:02.119 --> 01:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>So oh is that right? You don't get anything at all?

1695
01:32:03.880 --> 01:32:04.079
<v Speaker 2>No?

1696
01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Not really, Well, and follow Jason Analysis on Instagram, and

1697
01:32:09.159 --> 01:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>do subscribe to the Jay Dyer YouTube channel. Man, this

1698
01:32:13.800 --> 01:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>was great. I hope you'll come back on. We'll be

1699
01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:18.319
<v Speaker 1>even more jokey and we got into some serious.

1700
01:32:18.079 --> 01:32:20.159
<v Speaker 2>And I don't mind. I mean, I'm happy. I mean

1701
01:32:20.239 --> 01:32:22.920
<v Speaker 2>just to have jokes at all, you know, and silly

1702
01:32:23.039 --> 01:32:25.279
<v Speaker 2>right right off at all is great. So I'm not

1703
01:32:25.319 --> 01:32:26.279
<v Speaker 2>criticizing you at all.

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01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>All right, hang out for just a second, but I'm

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01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:31.199
<v Speaker 1>going to sign off. Thanks to my guest, Jay Dyer,

1706
01:32:31.279 --> 01:32:33.239
<v Speaker 1>and we'll see you guys again. Be sure to subscribe, like,

1707
01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and follow on all the social media's. We'll see you again.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Julian Dion. Thank you everybody.
