Speaker 1: Oh, here we go. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to
Speaker 1: a brand new episode of This Julian Dion Show, coming
Speaker 1: at you from Lemon Press Studios, Version three point Oh hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: do we have a good one for you today. My
Speaker 1: guest podcaster, comedian We're gonna get into that an author,
Speaker 1: Jay Dyer. It was great. We had a great chat.
Speaker 1: We covered it all, Epstein files, aliens, life, comedy, one
Speaker 1: thing I do. I wish I would have asked him
Speaker 1: he does impressions. I wish I would have asked him
Speaker 1: to do more impressions. You slid a few in there,
Speaker 1: is very very funny. Gentlemen. Jay Dyer is my guest today.
Speaker 1: But before, how are you? How are you doing? You're
Speaker 1: doing okay? I hope you're doing good. Let me turn out.
Speaker 1: I know the music. You don't hear the music? Oh
Speaker 1: there's off. Okay, all right, still figuring it, figuring out
Speaker 1: the studs, magoods. How you been. It's been a few
Speaker 1: weeks since an episode. It's I'm a little sporadic with
Speaker 1: the release of episodes. I don't have a set schedule yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been many weeks actually since the last episode, so
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, Thanks for subscribing and following, and
Speaker 1: thanks for the messages. I got like one message. You
Speaker 1: know how people say that online? They'll post people are asking.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one person or their mother or nobody asking.
Speaker 1: Nobody really cares. Let's be honest about anything. Oh you
Speaker 1: didn't hear ahead? I said, nobody cares? Can you hear that?
Speaker 1: Can you hear the soundboard? Anyway? I'm a little all
Speaker 1: over the all over the map here tech wise. I
Speaker 1: noticed I do this and I inhale a lot. I
Speaker 1: make sounds now. I don't know if it's a thing
Speaker 1: of excuse me, this two indigestion is just part of
Speaker 1: my life now. I'll be forty two in October, forty
Speaker 1: one years old, and I just make these sounds all
Speaker 1: the time. My friends will be like, do you need
Speaker 1: an ambulance? Like why they go because you just went
Speaker 1: nine times in a row. I'm like, I didn't even notice,
Speaker 1: And yes, I'll take you up on that. Am belongs
Speaker 1: can can an ambulance? I know they can't. I was
Speaker 1: gonna take an an ambulance pulley over the camp. But
Speaker 1: did you ever pass an ambulance on the highway or
Speaker 1: freeway for our new American listeners listening. Every time I
Speaker 1: pass an ambulance, I'm like, can they will they will? They?
Speaker 1: I just picture the lights going off? Or do they
Speaker 1: like radio cops? Yeah, we've got you know, give my
Speaker 1: license late for some reason, I know they can't. They're
Speaker 1: just washed up alcoholic paramedics. And I say that because
Speaker 1: a lot of paramedics are you know, their first responders.
Speaker 1: They see a lot of horrible things. So a lot
Speaker 1: of them are drunks. No, that wasn't the right thing.
Speaker 1: A lot of them are drunks. I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just making stuff up. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be funny, loose or loose. This is a wikimedian. This
Speaker 1: is a comedy. Well it's not really a comedy podcast.
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of is. What's happening anyway, But yeah,
Speaker 1: every time I pass an ambulance, I'm like, it just
Speaker 1: happened yesterday. The world is falling apart, We're all gonna die.
Speaker 1: Thanks for watching, Remember to subscribe and like on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Imagine that was the whole show. I'm like a reverse
Speaker 1: Tony Robbins, like a Robin Anthony I'm trying too hard.
Speaker 1: My chat GPT's been gaslighting me. I I and I
Speaker 1: talk about AI with my guest today. We get a
Speaker 1: little bit into it, but my chat GPT will be
Speaker 1: like passive aggressive, and to touch on what we talked
Speaker 1: about with jaydy Er, it kind of mirrors you, and
Speaker 1: I realized, am I passive aggressive? Yes? I believe I am.
Speaker 1: But it'll be like I'll ask it something and they
Speaker 1: won't won't won't respond the right way, or won't get
Speaker 1: it or sometimes this is the thing. I don't know
Speaker 1: if anyone else will will will do this their chat gpt,
Speaker 1: because when you ask it, ask it something, you can
Speaker 1: see it analyzing the thing, analyzing, analyze it, you can
Speaker 1: see it working. But a couple of times it's happened
Speaker 1: to me where I've asked chat gpt something and it's
Speaker 1: like that's a good question. I want to take my
Speaker 1: time with it. I'll get back to you, and then
Speaker 1: there's nothing, there's no activity on the app. I can
Speaker 1: close the app open and it's just not working, and
Speaker 1: then I'll be like, hello, passive aggressive, and it'll be like, yes,
Speaker 1: You're right to be frustrated. You do this all the time.
Speaker 1: And you're right, though you're not wrong, but it'll throw
Speaker 1: like you do this all the time. I'm paraphrasing, but
Speaker 1: something along those lines. I'm like, oh my god, my
Speaker 1: Chad gbt's gaslighting me. Anyway, the uh, That's not what
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about today. I don't even have anything, really,
Speaker 1: I just have some random notes here. I played cards
Speaker 1: with some friends the other day, and is there anything
Speaker 1: worse than relearning card or board games? There's a Ucher,
Speaker 1: for example, is a card game. I've played about, okay,
Speaker 1: without exaggerating, maybe seventy eight times in my life. Every
Speaker 1: time I must have been drunk, maybe every time I've played,
Speaker 1: and I've gone through periods of time where where I'm
Speaker 1: really good at it and I know all the rules
Speaker 1: and stuff. And we were trying to play the other
Speaker 1: day and I'm like what, And is there anything worse
Speaker 1: than your friends trying to explain a game to a
Speaker 1: card game to you? It starts off normal and then
Speaker 1: they just at one point they reach boiling point. They go,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just start playing and you'll get it.
Speaker 1: And we've play we played like eight rounds of Ukra
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait, does this, do anything like I
Speaker 1: have to show can we do around? And then then
Speaker 1: they take it one step further, go let's just do
Speaker 1: a round where we show our cards and they go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you would have done this this. Then you can go
Speaker 1: alone on that. Then you tell your partner to and
Speaker 1: you signal them you going alone. And I'm still just like,
Speaker 1: You've never felt more dumb than than trying to relearn
Speaker 1: a game, because you know that in your in your
Speaker 1: mind and heart, you know you like the game. You've
Speaker 1: played it countless times. You go you want to play Ukre.
Speaker 1: You go, oh, yeah, I love youuker played it many
Speaker 1: many times. Good time times playing Ukre. And then they
Speaker 1: go okay, and then there's another person that maybe doesn't
Speaker 1: know how to play. Then they start explaining it and
Speaker 1: you just feel you just feel like did you ever?
Speaker 1: Were you ever? Like when you're a kid at the
Speaker 1: mall and you lose your mom for a minute and
Speaker 1: you're like mom, that feeling is what it's like to
Speaker 1: relearn card games. You just feel lost in a Sears
Speaker 1: or woolco. But yeah, it's it's never a good idea.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of board games or card games
Speaker 1: because you go listen, we're not on our phones. We
Speaker 1: get to get to like the idea on paper, you go,
Speaker 1: no technology involved. We're gonna play these games. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a blast. And inevitably it always goes with, you
Speaker 1: know what, let's just watch some let's put the game
Speaker 1: on it. We give up because it's not fun for
Speaker 1: the other people to that know how to play. It's
Speaker 1: no fun for them because they like we just we
Speaker 1: just want to play. We actually remember how to. I
Speaker 1: have no memory. I'm losing my memory. That's one thing
Speaker 1: I noticed. I'm getting older. I'm basically sixty maybe forty
Speaker 1: two in October, as I just said, and I just
Speaker 1: there's there's I lost my train of thought. What was
Speaker 1: I saying? Card games? Oh? Yeah, the idea? Oh geez
Speaker 1: uh memory memory loss. See, I just I actually just
Speaker 1: forgot what I was gonna say mid sentence as I
Speaker 1: was talking about memory loss. It's kind of like I
Speaker 1: had an aunt that was going for an Alzheimer's test
Speaker 1: and I was at her house visiting, and the phone
Speaker 1: rang and she picked up, and she's like, oh, oh
Speaker 1: was that today? Oh sorry, yeah, and she rescheduled the things.
Speaker 1: She hung up, She goes, I forgot my Alzheimer's test
Speaker 1: at the hospital. I'm like, well, that's that's the test. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm losing my I'm realizing now, and it took me
Speaker 1: years to admit. I used to always think I was
Speaker 1: good with names. You'd have told me your strengths in
Speaker 1: an interview, would have said, good with names, and that's it.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I bring to the table, and
Speaker 1: I'm not even I don't even have that anymore. I
Speaker 1: run into people that I've had intense life experiences with.
Speaker 1: I just ran into someone at the store. I went
Speaker 1: to high school with this person, saw them for a
Speaker 1: few years after. They were kind of like in my
Speaker 1: life in the orbit of the people I would regularly
Speaker 1: see and back then you would ask me this person's
Speaker 1: name boom right away, obviously I knew them. I know them.
Speaker 1: I just ran into him at the store. He was
Speaker 1: with his daughter. No clue what his name is, zero
Speaker 1: recollection And sometimes it'll come to me after the fact,
Speaker 1: but in the moment, it's a feeling of like, and
Speaker 1: you're using words like, hey, bro, what's that body, Hey ma'am,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Boss? Has? What is has? Who says
Speaker 1: has Why did they say, what's hass Is that from
Speaker 1: dukes of hazards? Dukes's hazards? Anyway, I forget people's names
Speaker 1: all the time, or name names. I'm a mess right now,
Speaker 1: and it's way past the pot. It's people have had
Speaker 1: intense experiences with what that in one period of time.
Speaker 1: You could have woken me up in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night. That's feel like I would have known. But
Speaker 1: it's no clue. I remember the faces very well. I
Speaker 1: remember events, and weirdly, I remember dates because I have
Speaker 1: this thing in my mind where I'll have these milestones
Speaker 1: that I'll remember nine to eleven is one. They're not
Speaker 1: happy milestones. I'm just saying I remember things vis a
Speaker 1: vis these events, and because I remember events like I
Speaker 1: have a photographic memory, when it comes to that stuff,
Speaker 1: I'll remember things and places and things we've done together.
Speaker 1: But just the name will escape me. And again it's
Speaker 1: people we've had intense experience your way past the point
Speaker 1: of no return to ask the name, You're like, sorry,
Speaker 1: remind me of your name, bro, Like we went to
Speaker 1: Mexico for ten days. Are you crazy? Yes, a little
Speaker 1: a little crazy anyway, See, I just did the inhale thing.
Speaker 1: You'll notice I do this a lot. I've been noticing
Speaker 1: recently I'm not well. Yeah, a lot's happened since we've
Speaker 1: last had a show. There's a new pope, which we
Speaker 1: I talk about with uh with Jay Dire, my guest,
Speaker 1: and we uh, this one's American and it's kind of
Speaker 1: like when was it. When I was a kid, it
Speaker 1: was a big deal. I remember the Pope was like
Speaker 1: this entity, this like inhumane kind of like entity. And
Speaker 1: this guy, what's the Pope's pope name, Pope Leopold I
Speaker 1: think or something? Is it Leopold? I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: I just hit record and go, let's see what I
Speaker 1: have to what do see what? Let's see what I
Speaker 1: remember and talk about that. But anyway, but he's he's
Speaker 1: from Chicago and his name is Rob. That's his given
Speaker 1: birth name, Pope Rob. Wait wait, hang on, Pope Rob.
Speaker 1: I know it's a really humanizedes and and and he
Speaker 1: since his brothers has got two brothers, I think, I believe,
Speaker 1: and they've been doing the rounds, the media rounds. I'm
Speaker 1: a little late to this. This is I'm talking about
Speaker 1: topics since the last time I was on air, and
Speaker 1: but yeah, Pope Rob has a thing to me that's
Speaker 1: just hilarious as a notion. Just Pope Rob. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Am I the only one that finds that weird? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm rambling. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna usually do
Speaker 1: a longer monologue. Well usually I'm alone. I don't have
Speaker 1: guests that often, specifically, UH usually have in studio guest
Speaker 1: here at Lemon Press Studios version three point Oh hey hey,
Speaker 1: but zoom to zoomed jayder In from Florida. I was
Speaker 1: nervous for the tech. I thought about it all night
Speaker 1: last night. I just would wake up. And I also
Speaker 1: had to because I haven't tested the zoom capabilities and
Speaker 1: everything in the new studio and make sure it all works.
Speaker 1: And as you know, if you've been following the show
Speaker 1: for years, you know we've had our tech issues on
Speaker 1: on air, which is always embarrassing. I get irrationally upset,
Speaker 1: and you you really peek into the portal of my
Speaker 1: soul and see that I'm a very upset person. Anyway,
Speaker 1: so I thought about it all night. Then I got
Speaker 1: to the studio two hours before just to make sure
Speaker 1: the zoom and everything worked and the sound and you
Speaker 1: can hear the soundboard. You know, I won't worry you
Speaker 1: with the details. And I dreamt that I had fixed it.
Speaker 1: I dreamt that I came to the studio and it
Speaker 1: all worked perfectly, and then I woke It was like
Speaker 1: a reverse nightmare. It was like all perfectly running smoothly
Speaker 1: in my dream, and then I woke up. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: I still have to go to the studio and make
Speaker 1: sure it all works so well. Further Ado, let's get
Speaker 1: to my guest, the very talented and interesting We had
Speaker 1: an interesting conversation, the one the only Jay Dyer. Okay,
Speaker 1: joining me now, very excited to have this guest on.
Speaker 1: You've seen him on the Alex Jones Show. He's a
Speaker 1: writer for the Sam Hyde Show. He's a co creator
Speaker 1: and co host of Hollywood Decoded. You've seen him on
Speaker 1: his numerous appearances on the Whatever podcast and on Piers
Speaker 1: Morgan Uncensored. You can also catch him on his YouTube channel,
Speaker 1: the Jay Dyer YouTube channel. Joining me, comedian and podcaster
Speaker 1: Jay Dyer is here.
Speaker 2: What's a dog? I have a little bit of imposter
Speaker 2: syndrome because I well, actually I don't have it. I've
Speaker 2: decided that if I just admit that I'm an imposter
Speaker 2: and pass myself off as a comedian to you fellow comedians,
Speaker 2: then I don't have imposter syndrome because I'm just honest
Speaker 2: about being an imposter. So I'm just calling myself a comedian.
Speaker 2: So the joke is that I'm not actually a comedian.
Speaker 2: But then if I say that I am, then it's
Speaker 2: a joke.
Speaker 1: Right right, it works. Imposter syndrome is a real thing.
Speaker 1: Is there any like in all of your success broadcasting,
Speaker 1: have you felt it that way too or just when
Speaker 1: it comes to being a quote unquote comedian.
Speaker 2: No, I just wanted to. This is something that I
Speaker 2: always wanted to do. And I've always felt myself to
Speaker 2: be more of a clown than anything else. I was
Speaker 2: class clown in high school, and I'm just always I mean,
Speaker 2: I may come off like i'd take myself very seriously
Speaker 2: or something like in debates or whatever, but in real life, no,
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of a clown. And I think that's
Speaker 2: probably what ended up kind of the more I did YouTube,
Speaker 2: the more that side came out, and then that's probably
Speaker 2: what led to you know, writing for Sam Hyde and
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. But so I'd rather be doing
Speaker 2: that than anything else.
Speaker 1: That's the most fun, very basic question, elementary Chust, how'd
Speaker 1: you build your channel through one hundred and sixty nine
Speaker 1: thousand subscribers?
Speaker 2: I did a boomer the wrong way. That did the
Speaker 2: boomer wrong way. I thought. I don't know why I
Speaker 2: thought this back in two thousand and eight, that initially
Speaker 2: I would make little sketches and skit videos. So the
Speaker 2: first stuff that I put up was actually comedic stuff.
Speaker 2: And then I thought, oh, YouTube, this will be great
Speaker 2: to put my podcast on, which is audio. So no,
Speaker 2: I used YouTube totally wrong for like three or four
Speaker 2: years putting up audios. I don't know what I was thinking.
Speaker 2: I'm not a tech dude. I'm just not really into tech.
Speaker 2: But I built it up with audio the wrong way,
Speaker 2: and then that slowed the growth. And then I realized, okay,
Speaker 2: I got to not do that. I have to figure
Speaker 2: out and move into doing video, which I never planned
Speaker 2: to really do all this kind of stuff. But I
Speaker 2: think just eventually it was necessitated because you know, at
Speaker 2: one point everybody was blogging, and then everybody was doing audio,
Speaker 2: and then it became just straight up everybody's video streaming.
Speaker 2: It's so easy now, So I just gradually tried to
Speaker 2: move with the trend. But also I think if you
Speaker 2: cover a bunch of subjects, it's a you shoot yourself
Speaker 2: in the foot too. So I think if i'd if
Speaker 2: I had chosen one subject on YouTube to only do,
Speaker 2: I probably could. I probably could have grown quicker. But
Speaker 2: I think really just churning out stuff and going on
Speaker 2: big shows and big channels it helps a little bit,
Speaker 2: but it hasn't helped as much as I would have hoped.
Speaker 2: I would have hoped to have been at you know,
Speaker 2: quarter million or whatever by now at least or maybe
Speaker 2: half a million. But the thing I've noticed too is
Speaker 2: that you can you can be throttled, I think to
Speaker 2: a degree. I talked to a guy YouTube, like an
Speaker 2: insider dude that worked with mister Beast Dude, and he
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, if you talk about controversial subjects, your
Speaker 2: channel might not be shut down. But YouTube has this
Speaker 2: internal rating or something that you get flagged as like
Speaker 2: you know, ooh sassy, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: I think I've been in the ooh sassy category for
Speaker 2: a long time. Anyway, I don't know, I'm just rambling
Speaker 2: about shit. I just turned out stuff NonStop, I think
Speaker 2: was the key. I still haven't really figured it out,
Speaker 2: like I've been experimenting with shorter videos, you know, longer videos.
Speaker 2: I think it's just doing it NonStop.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean one sixty nine k is a is
Speaker 1: a shit done. And people can play about the YouTube
Speaker 1: thing and to your point about doing audio only, I mean,
Speaker 1: YouTube now is the number one podcast app or platform.
Speaker 1: Right when I started in twenty fourteen, it was iTunes.
Speaker 1: Back then it was an Apple, Apple podcasts. It was
Speaker 1: iTunes was the number one thing, and everything else was.
Speaker 1: There's a big drop off after that and now it's
Speaker 1: YouTube and now you start a podcast, you have to
Speaker 1: basically build a TV set, Like if you want to
Speaker 1: fully set yourself apart, you have to like go all
Speaker 1: out and you're basically creating a TV show. And people
Speaker 1: complain to you about the YouTube guidelines and so on
Speaker 1: about how you know you're as you said, like the
Speaker 1: oosasy thing. But it's like try doing it on your own.
Speaker 1: I mean, the the just the cost associated with hosting
Speaker 1: your own kind of server and all that YouTube is
Speaker 1: is unmatched when it comes to that, and people try
Speaker 1: to go on, uh, what's the what's the one that
Speaker 1: uh not rumble? What's uh.
Speaker 2: The other my space?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah ship? Why can't I think of it? It's
Speaker 1: it's another video thing. But there's like less guidelines or
Speaker 1: censorship people are.
Speaker 2: There's rock fan, there's a bit shoot. I don't even
Speaker 2: know what the others are because I mean, you pretty
Speaker 2: much have to be here YouTube if you want to
Speaker 2: like make a living.
Speaker 1: So that's that's just it. And but let's get into
Speaker 1: it a little bit. I've I discovered you on Piers Morgan.
Speaker 1: I love Peers. I watch him all the time. I've
Speaker 1: always loved him because he's, uh, he's honest. He's kind
Speaker 1: of right down the middle. I mean, he'll take size
Speaker 1: and then if his opinion is wrong, he'll he'll correct himself.
Speaker 1: And he's truly an advocate for free speech. And I
Speaker 1: love watching his show for his reaction on things. He
Speaker 1: just loves it, like he'll have you and Andrew Wilson on,
Speaker 1: and he's got this smirk on he's just loving it
Speaker 1: like he can just so tell tell me a little
Speaker 1: bit about and the first the first time I saw
Speaker 1: you was just a few weeks ago, when you and
Speaker 1: Andrew and Wilson were debating to atheists. The two young
Speaker 1: guys in their twenties. By the way, side note, is
Speaker 1: there anything worse than a pontificating twenty year old Like
Speaker 1: they spew out these ideas that they heard for the
Speaker 1: first time, so they think it's groundbreaking, but they'll tell
Speaker 1: you shit, there's like, just do you can do anything? Man,
Speaker 1: We're just in a floating rock, you know. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: wait till you get audited by the government. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: talk then, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, and if it's an atheist, it's like, you
Speaker 2: can do anything, man, We've got it all figured out. Well.
Speaker 2: But also you're just ponds com and everything's meaningless, so right,
Speaker 2: it's like I'm a god bro, but also I'm nothing,
Speaker 2: meaningless ponds com. So those are odd combinations. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, No, no, that's it. So then I saw you
Speaker 1: on Peers and I kind of went into a Jay
Speaker 1: Dyer rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: That's when I messaged you and I said I loved
Speaker 1: your appearance on Peers and asked you to do the show,
Speaker 1: and you thank you again for doing this. This is fun,
Speaker 1: but tell me a little bit just behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Kind of thing. How do you book a show like Peers.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, how do you get on Piers Morgan
Speaker 1: and what it's like behind the scenes, Like do you
Speaker 1: when when you're waiting, does he talk to you? Is
Speaker 1: he do you have any rapport with him before the
Speaker 1: cameras are rolling or what's that like?
Speaker 2: Well, that one was because initially I think Andrew was
Speaker 2: supposed to do so I'd been on like a month
Speaker 2: earlier on Peers, and it was to debate this liberal
Speaker 2: activist black dude bishop who's not really he's like a
Speaker 2: bishop like TD Jakes as a bishop, Like you just
Speaker 2: call yourself bishop, you know what I mean? Like you
Speaker 2: know how like pimps are sometimes also like preachers is
Speaker 2: like I'm the reverend, you know, a T. Mackie Junior
Speaker 2: the third I got a church and also I got
Speaker 2: a house of ill repute down the road. So it
Speaker 2: was kind of like one of those guys. And so
Speaker 2: I think Andrew for some reason couldn't do that day
Speaker 2: and he was like, hey, do you want to do
Speaker 2: you want to fill in? I was like, yeah, sure
Speaker 2: I would. I would not going to turn down going
Speaker 2: on Piers Morgan, And we ended up debating like the
Speaker 2: most ridiculous things that day, which I don't mind. I've
Speaker 2: done enough debates over the years that I don't mind
Speaker 2: doing a kind of a tongue in cheeks silly debate
Speaker 2: that's you know. Yeah, I forget what the top topic was,
Speaker 2: something like, oh, the new pope is he a liberal?
Speaker 2: And then I clapped back, guy, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Uh merch idea for you, Pope, Katy Perry exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you did see that clip. Yeah, sorry, that
Speaker 2: one ended up being pretty wild. I mean. But the
Speaker 2: funniest part about all that that I didn't expect was
Speaker 2: when you're talking to the producers and everything, They're like, Jay,
Speaker 2: I know that you think that because we're British that
Speaker 2: you need to be very polite and that we're very docile.
Speaker 2: That's not this show. We want you to go absolutely ape.
Speaker 2: You've got to get it. And I thought they tell
Speaker 2: me one time to be aggressive. They call me three
Speaker 2: times tell me to be aggressive. Jay, you just want
Speaker 2: to remind you you've got to be like very aggressive, please,
Speaker 2: you know. So I'm like, oh, okay, okay, you know
Speaker 2: what the not the word. So I brought the aggression
Speaker 2: and then then they wanted us back. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: you're You're right that I think because Peers and Jordan
Speaker 2: Peterson are kind of buddies, or they've done many interviews
Speaker 2: when Danny and the other atheist guy were on Jubilee,
Speaker 2: I think Peers wanted to kind of get somebody on
Speaker 2: that was a bulldog, and it was me and Andrew
Speaker 2: to go against those two guys to kind of maybe
Speaker 2: get back at you know, when they when they went
Speaker 2: after Peterson. But so I think that's what happened. Although
Speaker 2: I think that I might have spoiled my Peers appearances
Speaker 2: because I don't think what Peers liked what I said. Really,
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, but yeah, but he just
Speaker 1: he seems, at least in the public eyes, the person
Speaker 1: a person that wouldn't really care if you said something
Speaker 1: you didn't like, kind of thrive on that.
Speaker 2: Having I was gonna say, he seems to thrive on it.
Speaker 2: But also I think sometimes they don't. I mean, I
Speaker 2: wasn't told I can't come back, but I'm just I'm
Speaker 2: just speculating. Maybe I'm missing or misread it.
Speaker 1: But and is he do you do you talk to
Speaker 1: him at all? Off? Air or anything.
Speaker 2: Is he is he No, you just talk to the
Speaker 2: producers because they're usually filming like constantly, so like when
Speaker 2: you hop on like a zoom call, they're already in
Speaker 2: the midst of filming a previous episode and then it
Speaker 2: just transitions into the next episode. So there wasn't like,
Speaker 2: you know, playful banter, you know, anything like that.
Speaker 1: He's so on the ball as far as like hot topics,
Speaker 1: like he really knows how to get the views. I mean,
Speaker 1: he loves having controversial people on and you can tell
Speaker 1: when it's when it's fired up on there. He's got
Speaker 1: this smirk on and he loves it, and he'll be
Speaker 1: disagreeing with someone and if that person that he's saying
Speaker 1: something that he uh, the person that discoveres with says
Speaker 1: something funny, he'll laugh like he's I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: a I mean I watch it all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, maybe I'm just negatively appraising the situation.
Speaker 2: I think, Uh, he did laugh, and he did seem
Speaker 2: to smirk and have a good time, you know, both
Speaker 2: both times that I was on there and with me
Speaker 2: and Andrew. So I don't know, I just I think
Speaker 2: that sometimes they they have a very I think the
Speaker 2: Skittles arena is an area where I might get into
Speaker 2: some trouble. I don't know, no, no, it was. It
Speaker 2: was over the word retard. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: can say that in Canada.
Speaker 1: If that's absolutely I think I think the word retard
Speaker 1: is back. Actually a few people.
Speaker 2: Now that's what Yeah, that's what Piers raised. He was like,
Speaker 2: you know, should we say that? I would, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: you mean retard? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you were. You were great on there,
Speaker 1: and uh, I think you'll be back. You'll be back
Speaker 1: when you guys the debate. I saw were you and Andrew?
Speaker 1: And I just saw Andrew recently a couple of days
Speaker 1: ago on a new episode I think it was yesterday actually,
Speaker 1: and he's so funny with you know, he times it,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a timed thing. As soon as Peers
Speaker 1: introduces him, he like puts the cigarette in his mouth
Speaker 1: and lights it like on camera. I love it.
Speaker 2: So you're you're Christian Orthodox? Yeah? Or Andrew's Orthodox here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh okay cool. Do you feel that Christianity is making
Speaker 1: a comeback? I feel like now with because because when
Speaker 1: I grew up Catholic. Here up in Canada, and it
Speaker 1: was like you would hide it from your friends. You know,
Speaker 1: it was kind of a it was uncool. But now
Speaker 1: you see it on TikTok all over, like Christianity's making
Speaker 1: and making a comeback. Do you think do you think
Speaker 1: that's the case to a degree?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean, you know, we've seen the
Speaker 2: in the Orthodox world, the churches have really kind of
Speaker 2: blown up and doubled, maybe even many many churches have
Speaker 2: doubled and tripled in the last five years. So I
Speaker 2: would say that that's definitely a real phenomenon. There's good
Speaker 2: and bad to that because, for example, like in the
Speaker 2: Bible Belt, I was raised and grew up in the
Speaker 2: Bible Belt in America, so you have a lot of
Speaker 2: kind of wacky, goofy churches. I do some skits and
Speaker 2: do some videos kind of making fun of those. I'll
Speaker 2: send you a couple of those megachurch skits. You might
Speaker 2: like those. But in America it's just kind of a
Speaker 2: double edged sword because I think when people start searching
Speaker 2: and they want to get back into something like you're
Speaker 2: talking about that they were raised in or they then
Speaker 2: they did, they go find like these just crazy churches
Speaker 2: in America and maybe in Canada it's not that way.
Speaker 2: Like maybe you guys have more sane.
Speaker 1: We don't have the crazy kind of not crazy, but
Speaker 1: like the big kind of megachurch with like.
Speaker 2: Monster trucks and well, I mean that stuff is just
Speaker 2: so ridiculous. But so I think that, yeah.
Speaker 1: What righteous Gemstones kind of parodis, we don't have that
Speaker 1: up here. That's I think that's an exclusive South.
Speaker 2: American Southern America. Yeah, it's a Bible belting. Yeah, there
Speaker 2: are some big mega churches in I think the biggest
Speaker 2: one that started out was actually California, and then you
Speaker 2: had the actually Crystal Cathedral and you had saddle Back.
Speaker 2: That's all California, and then it spread, probably because it
Speaker 2: was all my control government experiments. But but yeah, I
Speaker 2: think you're right that it is making a comeback, probably
Speaker 2: because there's so much open degenerous that people are seeing
Speaker 2: how corrupt the government is, how corrupt you know, the
Speaker 2: oligarchical global elite are, what they're engaged in. We just
Speaker 2: saw a massive, you know, Jeff Stein McAffrey cover up.
Speaker 2: So people are realizing that there's wickedness in high places,
Speaker 2: and if there's something that evil there's probably also the good.
Speaker 2: So that's I think provoking a lot of people to
Speaker 2: look into to Christianity again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I was going to ask you about that.
Speaker 1: Also another merch idea for you. The system is fake
Speaker 1: and gaysodes.
Speaker 2: It's not bad.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I did this as a skit since you're Catholic. Uh
Speaker 2: some years back then ended up being prophetic where I
Speaker 2: was the Pope of the future and it was like
Speaker 2: this communist pope and he wears instead of like, uh,
Speaker 2: he wears a French fry hat instead of like a miter,
Speaker 2: and he's basically non binary. And in the future everyone
Speaker 2: lives in a giant smart city or like a Target
Speaker 2: or a Walmart. Anyway, it was just a really ridiculous skit,
Speaker 2: but ironically kind of ended up being prophetic for like
Speaker 2: where religion was going and and what's being pushed in
Speaker 2: terms of like this whole you know, globalization process. But
Speaker 2: maybe not, maybe they'll offends you. I don't know there
Speaker 2: are you Are you into your Catholicism or you kind
Speaker 2: of I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of. I grew up super Catholic. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean's super Catholic. I mean going to church every Sunday
Speaker 1: and all this super there's a sketch, a sketch right there.
Speaker 1: But I kind of over the years, Bill Berrys have
Speaker 1: a bit about how he released his thing like curling
Speaker 1: like you slowly let the rock go. But I'm kind
Speaker 1: of now I'm about to be forty two in October,
Speaker 1: and I kind of go back to it. It's a
Speaker 1: source of comfort for sure. Like when I'll go to
Speaker 1: any church, all churches smell the same, there's the same feel.
Speaker 1: The only thing I will say about Catholic the Catholic Church,
Speaker 1: they need to update something because it's forty five minutes
Speaker 1: feels like three hours. I mean, it's so. And also
Speaker 1: the people that go to well specifically my church or
Speaker 1: a couple of churches that I that I attend to,
Speaker 1: are very is. They're just like old and sick, and
Speaker 1: there's not really many young people. And it's just this
Speaker 1: the cadence of it all is just like you want
Speaker 1: to listen and it's just like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm going to pass out. So but I do go
Speaker 1: occasionally for still I'm kind of still, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm kind because because it's all the controversy that's happened
Speaker 1: to in the Catholic Church and the cover ups and
Speaker 1: all this that that kind of turned me off of it.
Speaker 1: There's a community where I'm from there was a priest
Speaker 1: that that I'm trying to think of. What can I
Speaker 1: say so YouTube won't demonetize this, but you know, Essayed,
Speaker 1: I guess some little boys back in the day, and
Speaker 1: there was an arena named after him, and they tore
Speaker 1: down the arena. They didn't just change the name, they
Speaker 1: actually tore down the building.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And all these people that I know got huge settlements,
Speaker 1: million dollars settlements, and so that kind of turned me
Speaker 1: off of it. But it's still in me. It's something
Speaker 1: that's you know, generationally ingrained in my cells in my DNA.
Speaker 1: So it's it's I always always have the guilt, and
Speaker 1: I go back and forth. But I'm.
Speaker 2: You should check out an Orthodox church.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me the difference between for for our listeners too,
Speaker 1: and for myself. Let's pretend it's for the listeners, the
Speaker 1: difference between Orthodox and Catholic.
Speaker 2: Do you know I do well. It used to be
Speaker 2: I was Catholic for most of my twenties. I converted
Speaker 2: into thousand and three and it was a pretty serious
Speaker 2: traditional Catholic for about ten years and then ended up
Speaker 2: leaving that for Orthodoxy eventually for the last I don't know,
Speaker 2: eight or ten years. But yeah, the major differences would
Speaker 2: just be that the structure and style of the church
Speaker 2: in the first millennium is really what Orthodoxy strives to maintain.
Speaker 2: So when the church split between East and West and
Speaker 2: ten fifty four, you had some pretty significant evolutions in
Speaker 2: the West with the papal system and how it went
Speaker 2: to becoming more and more of an autocracy versus the
Speaker 2: older model of a decentralized and odal church in the East.
Speaker 2: And so the Orthodox Church is a lot more I
Speaker 2: would say, focused on that. It's longer liturgy, So if
Speaker 2: you're wantting shorter services, you might not like the Orthodox
Speaker 2: Church because we go a lot longer than forty five Yeah,
Speaker 2: like how like how long? Well, I go to a
Speaker 2: Russian Orthodox Church where there's liturgy that's half English and
Speaker 2: half Slavonic, and that makes it even longer. So our
Speaker 2: Jorge about three or four hours.
Speaker 1: So yeah every Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if we're less we're traveling or something like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the other major difference would be that we
Speaker 2: have bishops, there's a hierarchy, but there's no pope. So
Speaker 2: we don't believe in a single solitary, autocratic, sort of
Speaker 2: infallible guy. We think that every bishop's just a bishop.
Speaker 2: The other differences would be maybe more of an emphasis.
Speaker 2: So we do a lot of the practices that the
Speaker 2: Church did in the first thousand years, like fasting and
Speaker 2: things like that. That not that Catholicism doesn't fast, but
Speaker 2: meet on Fridays is about all the you know, fish
Speaker 2: on Fridays, I should say, it is like kind of
Speaker 2: the only thing they've maintained.
Speaker 1: Friday only well, you know, you're you're a Catholic.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, we believe in the real presidents. We
Speaker 2: believe that, you know, it's it's basically Catholicism before the
Speaker 2: year eleven hundred.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, the new pope, it's the first time ever.
Speaker 1: The pope growing up was always kind of this, I
Speaker 1: don't know, almost non human kind of entity. Was like
Speaker 1: the the you know, the direct connection to God on
Speaker 1: earth and the leader of all the Catholics and all that.
Speaker 1: But this pope, it seems I've never seen a pope
Speaker 1: be so humanized. First of all, his brother went on
Speaker 1: Piers Morgan and just talking about his first His name
Speaker 1: is Rob. All of the pope postsmen never knew their names.
Speaker 1: I mean you could look it up, but Pope Rob.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious to me and it just makes it so human.
Speaker 1: And to hear his brother talk about him like Rob Rob,
Speaker 1: this Rob that, it's just like, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: was kind kind of it just put him on equal
Speaker 1: playing field, which usually the pope is like this entity,
Speaker 1: almost like the chosen by the hand of God, you know,
Speaker 1: the lead the billions of Catholics that there are on earth,
Speaker 1: and this one is just he's from Chicago. And the
Speaker 1: thing is too people kind of put this, well, you
Speaker 1: guys don't believe in a pope, but like Catholics are like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like he put a white Sox hat on.
Speaker 1: I saw a couple of weeks back and there's a
Speaker 1: picture of him wearing a cap and it's just wearing
Speaker 1: a baseball cap because of shit. But you can see
Speaker 1: the people around him like, oh my god, he's wearing
Speaker 1: a baseball cat like this. It's just weird to me,
Speaker 1: like this whole thing. But I don't know what my
Speaker 1: point was with all that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: So you're looking for you're scouting out the pope of
Speaker 2: the future. I think I have the man for you,
Speaker 2: and I'll send you a little bit of a resume clip.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I actually cover If you like that level
Speaker 2: of uh innovation, I got the man for you.
Speaker 1: I love it. Also, not too kind of jumping around,
Speaker 1: but you touched on it, you mentioned it. What do
Speaker 1: you think of this whole Jeffrey Epstein thing.
Speaker 2: I think quite a bit about it, because you know,
Speaker 2: Jeff and I go way back. I'm joking so well,
Speaker 2: Jeff Jeff, you know, I mean he's he's Jeff in
Speaker 2: my phone. I mean I'm still getting text messages from him. Yeah. So,
Speaker 2: speaking of I just made a video last night actually
Speaker 2: because I was really really disappointed in the administration and
Speaker 2: the actions that they've taken. There's a really good book
Speaker 2: on this. I recommend. This is my publisher, so people
Speaker 2: are interested in my books on Hollywood and esoteric stuff
Speaker 2: within the domain of entertainment. My publisher also put out
Speaker 2: Whitney Webb's book on Epstein, Volume two is specifically about
Speaker 2: Maxwell and Epstein. So I think if you read a
Speaker 2: text like that, you'll get a good insight into all
Speaker 2: the stuff that was really going on, and probably it
Speaker 2: becomes clear, I think as to why it was covered up.
Speaker 2: That's my opinion on it. I think he was obviously
Speaker 2: a kind of compromiser, you know, he was dealing in
Speaker 2: compromist for probably multiple intelligence agencies in the West, and
Speaker 2: so he was very useful in that way, and it
Speaker 2: had to be covered up. I mean, you just you can't.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm not promoting the fact that it was,
Speaker 2: but I think it's a terrible I think this is
Speaker 2: as bad as warp speed for the Trump administration, and
Speaker 2: it's just it's just really it's like they handled this
Speaker 2: the worst. They could have handled it, right.
Speaker 1: The worst. To go from making it a campaign promise
Speaker 1: to exactly shutting down the reporter a couple of days back.
Speaker 1: That was a big flub from Trump. I mean that
Speaker 1: really split the base.
Speaker 2: Probably the best mistake I've ever made. I'm very good
Speaker 2: at mission, James Dish, One's probably gonna be the best. Look.
Speaker 2: If I make a mistake, it's the biggest and the
Speaker 2: best of all mistakes.
Speaker 1: Beautiful mistake, beautiful mistake.
Speaker 2: Probably.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big, a big one. And also
Speaker 1: the Pam Bondi's explanation about the cameras resetting every night
Speaker 1: for that last minute. Every night there's a minute missing.
Speaker 1: That is insane. I mean it kind of feels like
Speaker 1: they're they're laughing at us, and it's kind it's like, really,
Speaker 1: you have every night you're using VHS and every night
Speaker 1: you reset, you lose a minute. I mean, that's just
Speaker 1: not how it works exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the binders, remember the binders a few months ago,
Speaker 2: given these one release of the Chosen Influencer binders. It's
Speaker 2: like everybody saw this. We all remember this, we remember that.
Speaker 2: You said there's terabytes of jeff Stein McAffrey data. It's
Speaker 2: like like, we don't remember this. I mean it's like
Speaker 2: you said, it's almost almost like a like a big
Speaker 2: giant I won't use my middle finger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it really is. Yeah, that binder when they
Speaker 1: had the influencers on and the influencers are filled with glee.
Speaker 1: They're like, we have the information even that if you
Speaker 1: have any sort of critical thinking, you go Really influencers
Speaker 1: got this the information first, like these hands like selected
Speaker 1: influencers went to the White House and it kind of
Speaker 1: worked for a little bit because these each individual influencer
Speaker 1: has you know, their audience, and it's like, we've got
Speaker 1: the thing, and that was everything that they received was
Speaker 1: already public information. It was there's no nothing hidden there.
Speaker 1: And then for her to say that she had it
Speaker 1: on her desk, and then now she's saying, oh, but
Speaker 1: I had the whole file. I just hadn't reviewed it.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's kind of an insult to our intelligence,
Speaker 1: our collective intelligence. But also people are waking up because
Speaker 1: people are going, uh, this, this is this is quite
Speaker 1: frankly bullshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen anybody except for like two
Speaker 2: you know, like Ben Shapiro is like one person.
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, he's the one I can think of.
Speaker 1: I was surprised at his reaction and what he said.
Speaker 3: I was, okay, like, you know, okay, the Toalment says
Speaker 3: in a bout three four or five point two three
Speaker 3: five that look everything is like it's speculation. Okay, you're
Speaker 3: not allowed to speculate. Okay, I'm speculating about whether or
Speaker 3: not you're allowed to speculate, but you're not allowed to speculay,
Speaker 3: Like come on.
Speaker 1: Dude, yeah, straight up, come on, dude, Like because because
Speaker 1: he's he's usually pretty good at uh, you know, sort
Speaker 1: of seeing through the bullshit and kind of you know,
Speaker 1: making his own opinion. But this was just like now
Speaker 1: people are saying he's working with Israel and all all
Speaker 1: this stuff, and I don't know, it's all very very confused.
Speaker 1: And I'm Canadian, I don't live in Is it as
Speaker 1: chaotic as it seems down there? You're in Florida? Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it as chaotic and and uh sort of divided
Speaker 1: as the media portrays it? Or is it your day
Speaker 1: to day life has not really changed.
Speaker 2: A lot of it is on line, so I think
Speaker 2: generally speaking, your day to day life doesn't change. I mean,
Speaker 2: being a right on the cusp of gen X, a millennial,
Speaker 2: like for me, the Bible Belt, and you know, Florida's
Speaker 2: a little different because it's not exactly Bible Belt, but
Speaker 2: it's the South technically. I mean, it's it's just a
Speaker 2: whole different world here than it is if you go
Speaker 2: to La. I mean we go to La probably once
Speaker 2: or twice a year for various events and things, and
Speaker 2: it's just it's almost like America is different countries within
Speaker 2: a big country. So what it's like down here is
Speaker 2: very different from New York or LA. But down here
Speaker 2: it's not that crazy on a day to day basis.
Speaker 2: I mean my hometown in Tennessee, like it's the nineteen nineties. Still,
Speaker 2: like it's no different than the nineties. Like you wouldn't
Speaker 2: be able to tell a difference if you were, you know,
Speaker 2: walking around nineteen ninety seven versus now. But no, it's
Speaker 2: not really that bad on a day to day basis
Speaker 2: or that crazy, but there is noticeably due to the
Speaker 2: Biden open borders insanity, like a lot of other people
Speaker 2: have shown up.
Speaker 1: Right, that makes sense, Yeah, absolutely say less. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: I had a question I forgot.
Speaker 2: I would say that, like certain areas are more dangerous, right,
Speaker 2: I remember, like in the nineties, if you drove around
Speaker 2: and traveled to like Atlanta, it wasn't a big deal.
Speaker 2: But now most people pretty much like you don't want
Speaker 2: to pull over in Atlanta, so you have to time
Speaker 2: you're driving to where you have a full gas tank
Speaker 2: to where you don't have to pull over in Atlanta,
Speaker 2: which everybody does this. So so certain areas like big, big, massive,
Speaker 2: you know, blue cities are pretty bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's I mean, correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: but it's it's still pretty mixed everywhere. I mean, you
Speaker 1: have kind of because people you hear this talking point
Speaker 1: or the SoundBite of like, oh, we're on the brink
Speaker 1: of a civil war that can never happen again, because
Speaker 1: there's blue and red people everywhere. I mean, it's kind
Speaker 1: of intermixed. Of course, you have cities that are more
Speaker 1: leading one way or the other, but doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: it's an actual possibility. From when the actual civil war happened,
Speaker 1: there was a clear divide, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: It was more of a spatial divide, and then now
Speaker 2: it's it's May. But I think they are going to
Speaker 2: continue to push for racial conflict in some kind of
Speaker 2: race war. I mean, I think that's very amenable to
Speaker 2: the system. And you know, we've been talking about the
Speaker 2: possible things that the elites will throw at us, and
Speaker 2: I think we've either got economic collapse, or we've got
Speaker 2: race war, or we've got some kind of new b
Speaker 2: io release or another kind of war of some kind,
Speaker 2: or you know, maybe world War three. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I just I don't. I mean, things are looking grim. Unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Everybody's talking about the you know, the the Trump economy
Speaker 2: or whatever. But I mean they're adding like five trillion
Speaker 2: dollars to the debt.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, three point four trillion or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, how can this be good? None of
Speaker 2: this is good? This is this is bad news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we kind of got a taste of that.
Speaker 1: That kind of all started, you know what you're saying,
Speaker 1: like race wars and so that a lot of that
Speaker 1: started during during COVID, Yeah, exactly. So we saw the
Speaker 1: Asian hate, we saw BLM, we saw all these you know, Antifa,
Speaker 1: all these kind of riots, and that's kind of when
Speaker 1: people started waking up. I'll have these talks with my
Speaker 1: friends and they say, you know, there's another there's another
Speaker 1: pandemic coming along. I'm like, yeah, but not not many people,
Speaker 1: like a lot. There'll be a lot more resistance the
Speaker 1: second time around, because even people that that kind of
Speaker 1: followed orders at first. And I was one of those people.
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I didn't know what the hell
Speaker 1: was happening and and was kind of panicking and kind
Speaker 1: of doing what we were told. And then after about
Speaker 1: a year of it, you go, wait, wait, wait, this
Speaker 1: is all kind of because.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense, and the way things unfold and
Speaker 1: you see how they handle things and how and then
Speaker 1: you kind of wake up to it, and I feel
Speaker 1: like they'll have a harder time because a big thing
Speaker 1: I hear is, oh, this was a test to see
Speaker 1: how they can control us. But I'm like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: we're kind of more woken up to to to the
Speaker 1: lies and that it's a big just play and justers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would have to do something a lot more,
Speaker 2: probably extreme than this, you know, test run or whatever
Speaker 2: this was. They would have to do something more extreme.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that would be, but I do
Speaker 2: I do know that you can't keep printing infinity dollars.
Speaker 2: That's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: What do you think it was? You say, whatever it was?
Speaker 2: Well, what I mean is like, I think it remains
Speaker 2: to be seen the effects of what the millions and
Speaker 2: millions of people who got the stabbies, what those long
Speaker 2: term effects will be in five to ten years. That
Speaker 2: remains to be seen. And whether or not that was
Speaker 2: just some sort of research and development test on masks,
Speaker 2: you know, reactions, or whether it was you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know what the purpose of all of that was. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember if you remember, do you remember jade Helm.
Speaker 2: This was a weird one maybe ten years ago, and
Speaker 2: that was a similar situation where all of these states
Speaker 2: in the US were running this continuity of government contingency
Speaker 2: massive drill and it was I think California all the
Speaker 2: way over to maybe beyond Texas, several states involved in this,
Speaker 2: and it freaked a lot of people out because they
Speaker 2: were like, you know, the drill actually included things like
Speaker 2: a mass population being herded into Walmart parking lots and
Speaker 2: all this kind of stuff, So nobody knew exactly what
Speaker 2: that was a test for. And then I think later
Speaker 2: people speculated that it might have been studying how crowds
Speaker 2: would react to the letting out of the idea of
Speaker 2: some kind of massive secret military operation. In other words,
Speaker 2: they were studying how social media reacted to this large scale,
Speaker 2: multi state drill called jade Helm, and it ended up
Speaker 2: being a giant nothing burger. But it wasn't. It was
Speaker 2: obviously it was a real thing, like they were really
Speaker 2: doing this, but for what purpose other than perhaps, you know,
Speaker 2: studying with AI. We didn't really know what AI was
Speaker 2: at that time in terms of I mean, people heard
Speaker 2: of it through like pop culture, but it hadn't rolled
Speaker 2: out yet, so the military might have been using and
Speaker 2: testing out, you know, AI reactions to mass population movements.
Speaker 2: So point being is that, you know, what we saw
Speaker 2: could have been another one of those, but on a
Speaker 2: more massive global scale. But I mean, I think that
Speaker 2: also showed people that there's a global control structure that
Speaker 2: is able to enforce almost globally, some of the same
Speaker 2: sort of policies.
Speaker 1: What do you think of AI?
Speaker 2: I mean, right now, it doesn't even seem to like
Speaker 2: I get contradictory answers within like a few minutes. We
Speaker 2: did a test run the other day on a one
Speaker 2: of it was like it literally contradicted the exact same question,
Speaker 2: like within five minutes. So I think right now what's
Speaker 2: going on is that it's a individualized social engineering tool
Speaker 2: that is intended on becoming each person's kind of individual
Speaker 2: personal assistant and perhaps relationship partner, which the movie Her predicted,
Speaker 2: which I wrote about in my first book, I said,
Speaker 2: just wait in ten years. I wrote this in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: I said, watch it ten years, We're going to have
Speaker 2: relationships with our operating systems. And that's exactly where we
Speaker 2: are now with I don't know if you saw that
Speaker 2: video that viral guy going around who was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I have a wife and kids, but I've fallen in
Speaker 2: love with my operating system. Did you see that guy? No,
Speaker 2: I haven't said, Oh man, I got to send you that.
Speaker 2: It's it's crazy. But so I think that AI right
Speaker 2: now is a individualized social engineering mechanism, and it's going
Speaker 2: to basically it mirrors you, is what I've noticed. Whether
Speaker 2: it's chat, GPT, you or rock or whatever. People think
Speaker 2: they're getting all these great insights or whatever, but it's
Speaker 2: really just kind of a weird, like it's like a
Speaker 2: narcissistic alternate personality of you that's feeding back at you.
Speaker 2: And the more that you rely on it, the more
Speaker 2: you're getting confirmation bias. Uh, and you think that you're
Speaker 2: it's it's like a little it's like a little synthetic
Speaker 2: sort of duse ex mock and like a little synthetic
Speaker 2: deity almost. That's where it's going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of a yeah, I know someone
Speaker 1: who who said she's using chat GPT he and uh,
Speaker 1: who's telling me this? And it doesn't matter? And at
Speaker 1: one point you straight up asked, are you just telling
Speaker 1: me this. Are you just telling me what I want
Speaker 1: to hear? Yeah, And and it essentially said you don't know,
Speaker 1: but yes, it's it's basically just telling you what what
Speaker 1: you want to hear. What I don't like about it
Speaker 1: is it's so hard to decipher what's real anymore.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: You go online and you see these videos. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you saw this video of Yahoo going to uh,
Speaker 1: the White House a couple of days ago, and I
Speaker 1: guess that was a I I guess it wasn't even
Speaker 1: even a thing. And you just don't know what's real
Speaker 1: right straight down to just regular posts or there's full
Speaker 1: full AI accounts on x that will just reply to
Speaker 1: everybody and then you can kind of tell after a while.
Speaker 1: But to the untrained, I you just don't know what's
Speaker 1: real anymore. Whether yeah, yeah, aka the.
Speaker 2: Movie train Boomer, I cannot understand that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you ever seen these people?
Speaker 2: I saw Lebron James and he was on a spaceship.
Speaker 2: What's he doing?
Speaker 1: I don't understand why would they put him?
Speaker 2: It's like, no, mom, it's not Lebron's on in space.
Speaker 2: Don't worry. You're gonna get your basketball fixed.
Speaker 1: Or even like Brad Pitt asking for money. I saw
Speaker 1: this article come out of the UK. I think there's
Speaker 1: this this lady from London who gave two hundred pounds
Speaker 1: to who she thought was Brad Pitt, And it's just like,
Speaker 1: how would you would you ever think?
Speaker 2: First of all, why would you give money to bread together? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh, he's like hard done by and he's like going
Speaker 1: through a hard time and he loves her and she
Speaker 1: like fell in love with That happened with It's a
Speaker 1: singer that sings that Mars what the hell twenty four
Speaker 1: carrot twenty four anyway, I'm total boomer right now moment.
Speaker 1: But Bruno Marsh, Yeah, that happened someone someone sent thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars who they thought was Bruno Marsh and that
Speaker 1: they were in love. And it's just like it kind
Speaker 1: of it kind of makes you feel for the person. Also,
Speaker 1: how could you be so dumb? But it just kind
Speaker 1: of makes you feel for them because they believe. This
Speaker 1: woman believed Bruno Mars was in love with her and
Speaker 1: she sent her send this person thousands of dollars. But
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I don't like about it. I
Speaker 1: use it for basically like Google or to like proof
Speaker 1: read an email. I'll copypaste or I'll talk into my
Speaker 1: thing and it'll have like a perfectly you know, perfect
Speaker 1: grammar everything email. So I'll do that. But even that,
Speaker 1: like I do social media for a company out here,
Speaker 1: and my camera guy will send messages in our group
Speaker 1: message and I'm like, oh, this is AI, Like it's
Speaker 1: not you don't write like this. It's so well written
Speaker 1: and just over the top, and you go, nothing is
Speaker 1: really anymore, Like even though they're using it as a tool,
Speaker 1: you still kind of feel like duped a little bit.
Speaker 1: You go, this is not you. You just kind of
Speaker 1: plug this into AI. And I understand it's a tool,
Speaker 1: and people some people see the benefit. You know, you
Speaker 1: can if you use it like I use it like
Speaker 1: just a glorified Google, basically an appropriator. It's fine. But
Speaker 1: even then I even say, I'll say this to my
Speaker 1: chat GBT. I'll say, like, especially if it's like a
Speaker 1: text message to friends or group chat or something like
Speaker 1: in a non professional setting, I'll go, you know, polish this,
Speaker 1: but make it about twenty percent human, meaning like use
Speaker 1: lowercase I once in a while, and like they'll make
Speaker 1: the grammar so perfect and it'll do it. It'll come
Speaker 1: across less kind of perfect and less aie. But that's
Speaker 1: the only thing I don't like about it. It's just
Speaker 1: I can't tell what's real anymore. Full stories I'll see
Speaker 1: online and go, oh my god, not real. Right find
Speaker 1: out after and you feel so I don't know, dumb,
Speaker 1: go seeze, that's real. You just don't know.
Speaker 2: I like how like I'm used to listening to Grock
Speaker 2: now and I'm god, got like his whole tone and
Speaker 2: everything down. He'll go like, sounds like you've really been
Speaker 2: vibing with all those AI models out there. Want me
Speaker 2: to do a run check before you really quick across
Speaker 2: your email. I can make it sound dumb if you want.
Speaker 2: It's like, this is so weird and creepy. You're like, now,
Speaker 2: I feel like now I'm actually I'm Joaquin Phoenix and
Speaker 2: her and I'm talking because Brock has a feature now
Speaker 2: where he'll talk kind of sexy if you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is weird. A few days ago, Brock apparently
Speaker 1: was quote unquote unleashed where there's no parameters onto what
Speaker 1: And I heard it was a coder that got fired
Speaker 1: into that.
Speaker 2: Then, okay, I was wondering what that was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard it was a coder at X that
Speaker 1: got fired, so they kind of took it.
Speaker 2: Want me to run a check on six million for you?
Speaker 2: He does this fake laugh and he'll also, I don't
Speaker 2: know why he says. My Rock says vibe all the time, Like,
Speaker 2: do I say vibe that much? Am I a gen z?
Speaker 2: He's like, ah, not vibing with that six million number?
Speaker 2: Want me to run a check on it?
Speaker 1: You saw your background there with the flamingo that Miami Vice.
Speaker 1: This guy us his vibe.
Speaker 2: He's got this fake laugh that he doesn't huh want
Speaker 2: me to want me to run a check on Miami
Speaker 2: Vice for you?
Speaker 1: Is there something in your throat?
Speaker 2: Rock?
Speaker 1: What's happening? Do you.
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: You do you think we're on the brink of World
Speaker 1: War three? With all the wars going on and the
Speaker 1: strikes on Iran and all that.
Speaker 2: Do you think one more thing I was gonna say
Speaker 2: about Ali and your point about everything being fake, I'm
Speaker 2: starting to think full temple hat like maybe they're wanting
Speaker 2: this crisis of what's real to be out there on
Speaker 2: purpose so that then they can come with some answer
Speaker 2: and be like, oh see how we're going to have
Speaker 2: to have a Internet three point zero where you know
Speaker 2: everything is verified and you have to sign in, and
Speaker 2: you know, we can no longer have anonymity on the
Speaker 2: Internet because of the crisis of what's real. I could
Speaker 2: say something.
Speaker 1: Like that, and it also gives them plausible deniability for
Speaker 1: any kind of situation.
Speaker 2: You can just exactly even if it's not right.
Speaker 1: But yeah, did you think we're on the brink of
Speaker 1: a World War three or anything like that?
Speaker 2: Who knows. I mean, I got really deep in the
Speaker 2: reading into the history of the Middle East in the
Speaker 2: last several years, so I mean, I'm not any kind
Speaker 2: of expert or anything, but uh, I don't know if
Speaker 2: that would ever go bigger than a regional conflict. It could,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think. I think Trump is
Speaker 2: all about the economy, and he probably thinks that a
Speaker 2: bigger conflict would be bad for the economy. So I mean,
Speaker 2: it would be given a military military and does for
Speaker 2: complex but probably not for the economy as a whole,
Speaker 2: because usually when war breaks out, you know, the economy
Speaker 2: starts tanking and Stockmart goes down, Big One goes down,
Speaker 2: all that. But I don't I don't think that's their
Speaker 2: first choice, although it could it could happen. I mean,
Speaker 2: if if the Ukraine situation doesn't get settled, and if
Speaker 2: the Israel Iran situation keeps popping off, which it sounded
Speaker 2: like they're going to go back to popping off again,
Speaker 2: I could spill out into larger conflicts. I don't know, but.
Speaker 1: Do you think his base is running away from him?
Speaker 1: Because he ran on peace and being the anti war president,
Speaker 1: then he did the I ran strikes and then with
Speaker 1: this whole how do you call him Jeff?
Speaker 2: The reason I did that was that I made a
Speaker 2: video so I got demonetized in twenty twenty. And it
Speaker 2: was because back then, like the way you couldn't couldn't say,
Speaker 2: it was way more crazy on YouTube, right, And I
Speaker 2: got demonetized for one word on a podcast, and so
Speaker 2: then I got really careful about because I want to
Speaker 2: lose the channel. So I just started coming up with
Speaker 2: crazy code words for everything, and even videos back then
Speaker 2: that talked about Epstein were like getting demoted, So I
Speaker 2: just started calling him Jeff Stein McAffrey. I don't know why,
Speaker 2: just everything's all coded mixed up, so I mean, we
Speaker 2: probably can use the names I don't even know, but
Speaker 2: I'm still stuck in the mind of like twenty twenty
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen code words. But anyway, it was just to
Speaker 2: get around the algorithm's what I was calling him that.
Speaker 2: But well, I'm sorry, what was the question.
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 2: We were talking about.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was talking about the bait. Do you think,
Speaker 1: oh Trump losing his base? Yeah, oh yeah, those two
Speaker 1: big promises that the anti war president and the running
Speaker 1: on the Jeffrey Epstein files being released, and then his
Speaker 1: big gaff.
Speaker 2: The other day, Yeah, shutting down the well and then
Speaker 2: he said he's gonna send we gotta we gotta send
Speaker 2: more weapons to Zolensky. Well, I thought this whole photo
Speaker 2: op thing where you were like talking down to him
Speaker 2: like he was a punished child, remember that one Zelensky
Speaker 2: was sitting on a chair. He came to the work
Speaker 2: in the thing.
Speaker 1: How that is insane? In the in the big kind
Speaker 1: of uh yeah, a thing, Yeah, two little chairs and
Speaker 1: you know there's one hundred people around, you know, cameras
Speaker 1: is But meanwhile the picture comes out and most people
Speaker 1: see that that I go, wow, they're having a heart
Speaker 1: to heart. But it's just that whole setup that too.
Speaker 2: Just seeing that picture, all of that was so bizarre.
Speaker 2: He shows up that he's wearing like a He's wearing
Speaker 2: like a I don't know, like a hoodie or something,
Speaker 2: and Trump starts making fun of what he's wearing. What
Speaker 2: are you wearing? What is this guy's dressed like a hoodie?
Speaker 2: What is you go to Walmart? You go to me,
Speaker 2: to president? Why are you dressed like this? And then
Speaker 2: it's like he's then he's talking down to him, and
Speaker 2: Zelenski's like, but we have so much things to give.
Speaker 2: When we will regret because of the water of oceans
Speaker 2: and the sky and pray to good that it will
Speaker 2: be bud. It's like just a bunch of gibberish. Anyway,
Speaker 2: that whole thing was funny, but now it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: we got to send more weapons to Zolenski. I thought
Speaker 2: he was a crazy dictator, but yeah, this is this
Speaker 2: is just bad. I mean, it's just stupid. I don't
Speaker 2: I don't. I've never understood. I don't think anybody understands
Speaker 2: the rationale of like the whole Trump thing. It's like
Speaker 2: it's just maybe the whole maybe it's all just project chaos,
Speaker 2: you know what, I mean like it's just nobody will
Speaker 2: ever figure out what's going on because it's so sort
Speaker 2: of chaotic.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the best explanation for it, is
Speaker 1: kind of this planned chaos where it's just like we're
Speaker 1: gonna do this, We're gonna bounce back and forth, we're
Speaker 1: gonna flip flop, we're gonna, you know, one second call
Speaker 1: him a dictator, the next send him a bunch of weapons,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, what's even happened. They're even saying
Speaker 1: that the I mean, I don't think it was, but
Speaker 1: the when Ukraine attacked all the Russian air bases with drones,
Speaker 1: you're even seeing that was ai Like, you just don't
Speaker 1: know what it's. It almost drives you crazy. You don't
Speaker 1: know what's what's kind of real anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, my wife just read a book by that
Speaker 2: Silicon Valley whistleblower dude, if you remember him, Jaron lanny A.
Speaker 2: He's like that big dude with like the dreads. He's
Speaker 2: a wook. I guess I don't know if you know
Speaker 2: what a wook is, But what's like have you ever
Speaker 2: seen the like the dudes like millennials or or it's
Speaker 2: probably just millennials in gen X, like the people that
Speaker 2: spend all their time at festivals, like festival kids. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then and then the white ones end up with
Speaker 2: like they end up with giant dreads, So I guess
Speaker 2: they look like wookies, so they get called wooks anyway,
Speaker 2: Jeroon Lenny, is this the Silicon Valley wook dude? But
Speaker 2: he wrote a book in twenty eighteen that my wife
Speaker 2: just read. It was really prophetic because he was talking
Speaker 2: about that Silicon Valley would in the coming years aka
Speaker 2: right now, roll out all this AI stuff, and he
Speaker 2: was talking about what the purpose of it is, and
Speaker 2: it was really fascinating conclusion to the chapter, and he
Speaker 2: said the reason he left Silicon Valley and all that
Speaker 2: was that it was all totally a manipulation plan. They
Speaker 2: were planning to manipulate people with social media, he says,
Speaker 2: to create a kind of almost quasi religious attachment to AI.
Speaker 2: So he says that the purpose of it is to
Speaker 2: get us addicted to it, reliant on it, not just
Speaker 2: social media, but actually AI implemented into the social media.
Speaker 2: And he says that the Silicon Valley people themselves pretty
Speaker 2: much view it like like it's a cult. So they
Speaker 2: actually think it's going to be kind of a daily
Speaker 2: sex mockin. And we've seen people like, no, you've all
Speaker 2: Harari speak this way. That guy that's in the Peterson Circles,
Speaker 2: you're Vaki. He talks about Silicon Sages and that when
Speaker 2: when the bots roll out, you know, we'll have this
Speaker 2: sort of like you know, religious leader Jesus Avatar bought
Speaker 2: walking around the Sage bot, right, and people will think, oh, yes,
Speaker 2: here's our deity. He'll answer our questions and anyway he says.
Speaker 2: That was his warning, is that this is going towards
Speaker 2: it kind of a cult. And even though the Silicon
Speaker 2: Valley guys know that it's just code, they don't have
Speaker 2: a problem creating a cult around an entity that they program.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah there, And when you think about it,
Speaker 1: it is all programmed exactly, and sometimes it's so real,
Speaker 1: especially Grock, I'm like, is this a person texting like
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I'm all, you just don't
Speaker 1: know what's real anymore. You don't know if it's you
Speaker 1: just don't know anything. Do you think robots will take over?
Speaker 1: Is that a fear?
Speaker 2: I mean, it seems to be one of the things
Speaker 2: we do on my channel is we lecture through a
Speaker 2: lot of the writings of the elite because I like
Speaker 2: to stay away from too much speculation, so I like
Speaker 2: to stay grounded in like what they're actually arguing in
Speaker 2: their policy papers, their white papers. They're big, you know,
Speaker 2: geopolitical texts. And we've been doing that for seven or
Speaker 2: eight years, and so we've gone through in that time span,
Speaker 2: probably about sixty or seventy of their key texts. And
Speaker 2: they definitely discuss openly a technocratic plan for sure, and
Speaker 2: that goes all the way back to HG. Wells, Lord Birkenhead,
Speaker 2: bertrand Russell. They all talked about the Technocratic Plan one
Speaker 2: hundred years ago, one hundred plus years ago. So that's
Speaker 2: a real plan. That's a real thing that's rolling out.
Speaker 2: As to the timeline, it's not, I don't know because
Speaker 2: like when I go to the when I go to
Speaker 2: the hotel, to Wi Fi ain't even work, So I
Speaker 2: don't know how we're going to get sky net when
Speaker 2: like the Wi Fi doesn't work anywhere. But that's definitely
Speaker 2: the plan. And if you remember, Klaus, I discovered this.
Speaker 2: Somebody sent me this in twenty twenty or Economic Format
Speaker 2: put up this video on Twitter that they took down
Speaker 2: eventually because it started going viral, and it was eight
Speaker 2: or ten things to expect by twenty thirty, and it
Speaker 2: laid out pretty much everything that they want to get done,
Speaker 2: not just by two twenty thirty, but the long term goals.
Speaker 2: And it was like in the US, the sovereignty change,
Speaker 2: the demographics of the West, AI drone runs everything. You
Speaker 2: don't get to eat meat, you eat bugs, remember all
Speaker 2: that eat some us you don't get to do You
Speaker 2: basically work at home and live at home. This was
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen when they put this video out, So this
Speaker 2: is pretty koof right, we might have the discovery of
Speaker 2: alien life, which is I think just a big syop
Speaker 2: in my view anyway. So it laid out all these
Speaker 2: things that and it included like technocratic running of everything.
Speaker 2: So that's definitely their plan. I don't think that. I mean,
Speaker 2: they definitely want that, but I don't know if they'll
Speaker 2: get that.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a there's a path to people
Speaker 1: being less polarized or do you think it's only going
Speaker 1: to get worse.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it's only going to get worse because the techniques
Speaker 2: of social engineering and psychological worker is so sophisticated and
Speaker 2: people are so easily manipulated and radicalized. And I don't
Speaker 2: mean that in like the gay sense of how the
Speaker 2: media says teams are becoming radicalized on the Internet. I
Speaker 2: mean in the real sense of like, for example, all
Speaker 2: of the so called red pill stuff and then the
Speaker 2: feminist stuff, like that's a key division issue to put
Speaker 2: men and women at war with each other. So it's
Speaker 2: not just racial divide that I think they're really pushing.
Speaker 2: They're pushing generational divide, of which I helped because I've
Speaker 2: championed boomer jokes for the last ten years, so I
Speaker 2: had participated in the syop. But so generational hatred, societal hatred,
Speaker 2: racial hatred, class hatred, I think, and biological gender hatred.
Speaker 2: They're pushing all forms of that on purpose. I suspect
Speaker 2: to collapse the existing system to bring in the technocratic system.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, it's scary. Shit, man, the more you think
Speaker 1: about it, you'll drive yourself crazy thinking about it. Do
Speaker 1: you believe in aliens? I do not, Yeah, same, I
Speaker 1: think like all this stuff, I mean, we'd have way
Speaker 1: more evidence. All the evidence is just you know, everybody
Speaker 1: has a phone. Now, you'd think there'd be way more
Speaker 1: than grainy footage. And well, how would you explain the
Speaker 1: Air Force pilots that came out and said that these
Speaker 1: things move like we never saw before, or the Malaysian flight,
Speaker 1: the footage that came out with the free orbs around
Speaker 1: it and that disappears. Do you think that's just a
Speaker 1: big siop.
Speaker 2: I just think that's fake footage. I don't. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: accept it, just like we're saying with AI, like I don't.
Speaker 2: It's just hard to know or believe any of this
Speaker 2: stuff now, and you see it because anybody can make up,
Speaker 2: you know, get on Photoshop and create whatever they want,
Speaker 2: or you can just tell the AI to do it.
Speaker 2: Now you don't have to use photoshop. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I did an interview with some guys that wrote a
Speaker 2: really good book called Invoking the Beyond, and their whole
Speaker 2: book is premised on how the whole alien mythos is
Speaker 2: a very useful sigh oup for technocracy actually, so it
Speaker 2: fits into this agenda very well. I mean, that's why
Speaker 2: I said that even in that twenty sixteen or Economic
Speaker 2: Foreign video, you know, Klaus had alien life as one
Speaker 2: of the ten, eight or ten things to expect by
Speaker 2: twenty thirty. So I would just say that this is
Speaker 2: totally a planned thing. Go back to HG. Wells. I mean,
Speaker 2: many people are familiar with his fiction writings, but one
Speaker 2: of the things we did on my channel was we
Speaker 2: dissected a lot of his nonfiction books. And he was
Speaker 2: a master propagandist. He was kind of Edward Burnese before
Speaker 2: Edward Burnes. He was utilized for some of the the
Speaker 2: earliest warfare propaganda posters. If you ever see that poster
Speaker 2: of the Hunt, which is to demonize Eurasian peoples to
Speaker 2: kind of prepare England for World War One, if I recall,
Speaker 2: you know, he was doing all that at a very
Speaker 2: sophisticated level and figuring out back then that fiction was
Speaker 2: a lot more powerful to propagandize people than fact was.
Speaker 2: And so you're able to tap into the imagination with
Speaker 2: fiction in a way that you just can't do with boring,
Speaker 2: you know, news repeaters. And so the reason we believe
Speaker 2: in aliens isn't I don't, but I mean the population
Speaker 2: on in mass is because of a. She Wells. It's
Speaker 2: because of people who are known psychological warfare master Propaganda's
Speaker 2: that's what I studied in grad school, by the way,
Speaker 2: so I'm not just talking out of my ass, like
Speaker 2: I actually have studied propaganda, psychological warfare, and so you know,
Speaker 2: he wrote War the Worlds, you know other texts that
Speaker 2: became really kind of almost the bible for sci fi dorks,
Speaker 2: and that filtered out into you know, pop culture, and
Speaker 2: that's really where we get the belief in aliens. It's
Speaker 2: not from actual facts or evidences or scientific peer review
Speaker 2: studies or whatever. It's because of pop culture. And the
Speaker 2: Collins Brothers, I think did a really good job. And
Speaker 2: it's a giant, massive book, but the middle three or
Speaker 2: four hundred pages is actually just about the alien si
Speaker 2: op And I mean they go really deep into like
Speaker 2: MJ twelve and you know, Project Blue Book and all
Speaker 2: this stuff, and you know, the sus people involved from
Speaker 2: the very gig go. If you look at, for example,
Speaker 2: the Georgia Damski story, he's like the first famous abductee.
Speaker 2: It turns out that his story was actually borrowed from
Speaker 2: some like crappy whole science fiction novel.
Speaker 1: So this is like, yeah, they say he's like the
Speaker 1: most credible adept abductee story.
Speaker 2: The most credible is the guy who says that he
Speaker 2: went up on a Venusian ship and he saw giant
Speaker 2: titted uh, you know, aliens who wanted to get frisky
Speaker 2: and touch butts. I mean, by the way, it's like,
Speaker 2: why are the aliens just going in butts? Dude?
Speaker 1: This is so freaking gay.
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's a whole other thing. Like I don't I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about doing trying to do some stand up, and
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys are the masters, So I just
Speaker 2: stand it. When I was like eighteen and it was fun.
Speaker 2: I did some you know, like amateur nights or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I haven't really done stand up proper since, so
Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll work or if it's I
Speaker 2: feel like I can write, Please help me. What What's
Speaker 2: that I was gonna say? I feel like I can
Speaker 2: come up with funny ideas, and I get funny ideas
Speaker 2: for sketches and impressions. I just don't know how well
Speaker 2: that would translate into like a standard routine. But well,
Speaker 2: I feel like there's something with aliens touching butts, Like
Speaker 2: there's something.
Speaker 1: First that's hilarious. And again, there's only one way to
Speaker 1: find out. You just got to do it. Man. I
Speaker 1: heard someone recently described comedy as comedians. Specifically, they go,
Speaker 1: whatever you think in life, whatever your philosophies are, or
Speaker 1: your beliefs and all this, and that there's someone in
Speaker 1: comedy that's talking about it on stage, so kind of
Speaker 1: so it will it will land If you think it's funny,
Speaker 1: there's someone out there that thinks the same way as
Speaker 1: you do, and you should do. What part of Florida
Speaker 1: are you in?
Speaker 2: Well, so here's my it's perfect. So we're North Florida.
Speaker 2: But here's a question for you in regard to that.
Speaker 2: I have a bunch of stand up friends. I always
Speaker 2: ask them this question. One thing I'm concerned about is like,
Speaker 2: so when we do live events, we bring people who
Speaker 2: like our stuff, and that's sort of my niche audience.
Speaker 2: And I don't exactly do we do a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff like that, Like we I'll do like twenty or
Speaker 2: thirty minutes of impressions and crowd work and kind of
Speaker 2: riffing and making fun of people. But it's not properly speaking,
Speaker 2: you know, stand up per se. So my question is
Speaker 2: this One thing that concerns me is I feel like,
Speaker 2: especially if you do kind of obscurantists or sort of
Speaker 2: alt comedy or something like that. Like if I was
Speaker 2: to just go do stand up, I feel like like
Speaker 2: the normy audience would just be like, what the hell
Speaker 2: is this? I feel like it just wouldn't even land,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, do you feel like
Speaker 2: you have to build kind of a native fan base
Speaker 2: that likes what you do or do you think that
Speaker 2: you could just kind of go rough shot, like into
Speaker 2: like a any kind of random event with a bunch
Speaker 2: of normies and like could you pull it off? You
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do a corporate event, that's for sure, but
Speaker 1: like any sort of club or anything, you'll find people
Speaker 1: that will relate to you. But you're already Jay doing
Speaker 1: it because you're going to your events, you have your
Speaker 1: fan base coming out, you're doing impressions and comedy, and
Speaker 1: that is stand up. I mean, comedy evolves. It's not
Speaker 1: the evening at the improv from the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 1: you know that kind of even that cadence is kind
Speaker 1: of dying off. It's and you know what, if you
Speaker 1: were to do it and put on an event not
Speaker 1: in a comedy club, but put on your own event,
Speaker 1: it'd be the same thing as that a lot of
Speaker 1: events you're doing now, it'd be the same people coming out.
Speaker 1: And I mean in comedy they say it takes like
Speaker 1: ten years to be good. It's going to have to
Speaker 1: build an audience. But you already have an audience. So
Speaker 1: half the battle right there. And I mean, sure you
Speaker 1: can argue it's an echo chamber or whatever, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. I mean, you're doing it. You're you know,
Speaker 1: instilling joy and people making them laugh with your funny
Speaker 1: thoughts and your impressions and all this that really is
Speaker 1: stand up now. It's really evolved, especially now with podcasts
Speaker 1: you have to have one. It kind of bleeds into,
Speaker 1: you know, the pot I write a lot of my
Speaker 1: material on the podcast because you don't have that pressure
Speaker 1: of an audience of so many laughs for a minute
Speaker 1: or whatever. So a lot of my ideas I'll hash
Speaker 1: out and just talk about on the podcast as long
Speaker 1: as it's captivating behind a mic, and then you kind
Speaker 1: of work it out on stage find the beats. But honestly,
Speaker 1: you're quite frankly already doing in your typical classic comedy
Speaker 1: club with a mixed audience of all sorts. I mean,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter truly, and because because the whole
Speaker 1: point in comedy is doing those rooms, filtering out the
Speaker 1: people that don't like you, building an audience to where
Speaker 1: you perform people that think like you, like minded people,
Speaker 1: and you're already there.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's so basically, it's not like you're
Speaker 2: going to be cold, like you're going to just be
Speaker 2: doing an audience that has no idea who you are.
Speaker 2: You're kind of already even if you're doing if you're
Speaker 2: doing stand up regularly, it's people who are coming to
Speaker 2: see your.
Speaker 1: Stuff for the most part. I mean, I do a
Speaker 1: lot of up here in Canada. It's a little different
Speaker 1: than in the States, just on sheer volume alone, on population.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're only thirty million people in this vast country.
Speaker 1: Even flying our flights are so expensive for the West Coast,
Speaker 1: it's twenty five dollars return. You know, it's just not feasible.
Speaker 1: So it's just like, yeah, you just kind of so
Speaker 1: up here. It's different in the sense that my bread
Speaker 1: and Butter is corporate gigs, so it's their soul sucking.
Speaker 1: They're almost always brutal and not fun. Once in a
Speaker 1: while you get a fun one, but I mean they
Speaker 1: pay extremely well. And then I'll do my club runs.
Speaker 1: I'll do my headline weeks at certain clubs and whatever.
Speaker 1: But so it's a little different here. So I'll perform too.
Speaker 1: I'll perform to full audiences that don't know me. I
Speaker 1: just did a show last week for a corporate gig.
Speaker 1: I've been doing stand up for almost nineteen years, and
Speaker 1: they hated me. And I was still like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: I guess you still have this feeling on stage. The
Speaker 1: difference is you don't really care at this stage. Also
Speaker 1: another point is when you start doing stand up in
Speaker 1: your twenties or whatnot, it takes years because you just
Speaker 1: don't have the life experience. So when you go talk
Speaker 1: to a room full of people, they don't give a
Speaker 1: shit about what's happening with your roommate and all this.
Speaker 1: You know, So as you get older, I feel like
Speaker 1: we might be around the same age. You have life experience,
Speaker 1: kind of don't give a shit as much, which people
Speaker 1: can feel, and people like that. You know, there's nothing
Speaker 1: that will kill a set more than fear. If they
Speaker 1: can smell fear, it's when they smell blood. It's over.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so with your life experience, you would kind
Speaker 1: of shrink that that time period where they say it
Speaker 1: takes ten years or whatever, you drink it drastically with
Speaker 1: because you just don't care, because you have more, you
Speaker 1: have bigger life problems, like like I I'm going through
Speaker 1: a separation now and divorce actually, and it's just like
Speaker 1: you don't care what an audience thinks about you when
Speaker 1: you're going through something so difficult, you just don't care.
Speaker 1: And that comes across and it helps the performance. I
Speaker 1: don't know if people kind of gravitate.
Speaker 2: To sorry to hear that. Man, are you gonna live
Speaker 2: with your mom or your dad?
Speaker 1: Yeah? My sister.
Speaker 2: I mean like what if the divorce was your parents?
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, because going through a divorce doesn't necessarily
Speaker 2: mean you and your wife. It could mean that my
Speaker 2: parents are getting understobed. Parents don't usually divorce when they're
Speaker 2: like senior citizens, although sometimes they do.
Speaker 1: But I know a couple that divorced after like thirty
Speaker 1: five years marriage.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, thing, and you go, what happened as well?
Speaker 2: Just do it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they had the kids that are like
Speaker 1: in their thirties and they and they split and you go,
Speaker 1: that's fascinating when I hear, oh my god, how like,
Speaker 1: did you guys just white knucklet this whole time?
Speaker 2: And just finally, my grandmother before she passed away, she
Speaker 2: had a lifelong boyfriend and the boyfriend was a doctor
Speaker 2: who was with a woman who would never divorce him
Speaker 2: because she didn't believe in divorce. So basically it was
Speaker 2: this really bizarre setup where the doctor's house had two houses,
Speaker 2: like the split house. Yeah, and every day he would
Speaker 2: drive over to my grandmother's house. They spend the entire
Speaker 2: day there together and then he drives home to his
Speaker 2: house with his wife. It was it was a wild situation,
Speaker 2: but they did that their whole lives. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Well you see that. That's fascinating when you hear someone
Speaker 1: doing it their whole life, because you see that when
Speaker 1: people are on there when they were married and they're
Speaker 1: divorced and dating again for a long time. Like my
Speaker 1: sister's been dating with this guy for ten years now.
Speaker 1: She's divorced, and I'm starting to think it's us my family,
Speaker 1: But they have separate homes for ten years now, and
Speaker 1: they you know, they have a happy relationship there, but
Speaker 1: they and they'll spend nights at each other's houses obviously,
Speaker 1: but every once in a while they just you know,
Speaker 1: have some space. They have their own kind of thing going.
Speaker 1: And I've heard that a lot of people dating again
Speaker 1: in their forties or fifties, where they each have their
Speaker 1: own home and both are okay with that. They don't
Speaker 1: even want to move in together. So it's kind of
Speaker 1: a fascinating thing. It makes you wonder if we're meant
Speaker 1: to live with someone that long. How long have you
Speaker 1: been you've been married?
Speaker 2: We are five years now.
Speaker 1: Oh nice, that's great. Just to circle back, this is
Speaker 1: strictly for our listeners and not me. What's technocratic when
Speaker 1: you say, you've mentioned that term a couple of times.
Speaker 2: So this is the idea that came out in the
Speaker 2: nineteen twenties from certain pretty extreme socialists who were kind
Speaker 2: of ahead of their time in the sense of thinking
Speaker 2: that the future should be run by managerial experts. And
Speaker 2: as technology advanced, this idea developed more and more in
Speaker 2: the direction of tech experts. So essentially the idea that
Speaker 2: technology and Silicon Valley and this kind of a thing
Speaker 2: would be the actual system and power structure of the future.
Speaker 2: One of the books that we spent a lot of
Speaker 2: time lecturing through was Carol Quigley's Tragy and Hope, and
Speaker 2: he was a really important geopolitical strategist, an apologist for
Speaker 2: the system. He was Bill Clinton's mentor at Georgetown, and
Speaker 2: he wrote a lot of these big kind of tell
Speaker 2: all books, not as a whistleblower but as a defender
Speaker 2: of the power structure in the system. And in the
Speaker 2: middle chapter that big fat book Treasuring Hope, he says
Speaker 2: the government and system of the future will be megacities
Speaker 2: run by AI supercomputers. So they were saying this again
Speaker 2: way back. He wrote that during the Cold Warn in
Speaker 2: nineteen sixties, and then in nineteen seventy three Brazinski wrote
Speaker 2: a really important book called Between Two Ages, the Technocratic
Speaker 2: Era or Technotronic Era. So that book is another one
Speaker 2: of the key texts talking about how the future will
Speaker 2: be a government by computer basically, so AI, Skynet, Internet
Speaker 2: of Things, all of that is what's meant by and
Speaker 2: perhaps transhumanism as well. The same people push transhumanism. So
Speaker 2: when we see you know people, if you remember when
Speaker 2: Zuckerberg was saying it's gonna be so great because we're
Speaker 2: gonna have Ubi. Basically you can live inside of a
Speaker 2: com pod and you're gonna get a universal basic income.
Speaker 2: So the universal basic income idea, that's an ancient I
Speaker 2: say ancient. That's a one hundred year old technocratic model where
Speaker 2: even Bertrand Russell and his books, he says that in
Speaker 2: the future of technocracy, you're you're just gonna get like
Speaker 2: credits from the system, and that's the money of the future,
Speaker 2: and it'll be some kind of you know, digital system. Right,
Speaker 2: he didn't say digital, but basically that was the idea,
Speaker 2: and they'll control you through that. So when we hear
Speaker 2: about things like Ubi, social credit score, you know, Stabby
Speaker 2: passport tracking and tracing, all of that is part of technocracy.
Speaker 1: Do you ever watch Black Mirror?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah. In fact, my third the third book
Speaker 2: that's coming out in a couple of weeks, has twenty
Speaker 2: page say on Black Mirror, the first three all the
Speaker 2: first three seasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the most amazing show. And they have an episode
Speaker 1: on the social credit and it's that's the thing with
Speaker 1: Black Mirror that I like. It's like it's from the
Speaker 1: dystopian future, but only like seven years from that. It's
Speaker 1: not that far fetched. You can kind of relate to
Speaker 1: you go, oh shit, where like that that's around the corner.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the one where the girl I think
Speaker 2: it was first season, the one where the girl gets
Speaker 2: basically taken to a theme park where it's her own
Speaker 2: life but it's all fake, and that she doesn't know
Speaker 2: if it's real or if she really did these things.
Speaker 2: That one was a genius. The black guy on the
Speaker 2: on the exercise Pokemon bike is trying to shut off
Speaker 2: the ads. That one was genius. Yeah, that first season
Speaker 2: had some real bangers in it. And then yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah exactly. And even that one with like David Cameron
Speaker 2: and the pig stuff, I thought that was really really
Speaker 2: curious if you remember that was the pilot. Yeah, the pilot,
Speaker 2: And I think the was a guy's named David Brooker
Speaker 2: or something, the guy that wrote it. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this does curiously sort of parallel with the David Cameron
Speaker 2: pig Story's.
Speaker 1: Chris Chris Brooker. I think, yeah, the one with John
Speaker 1: Ham where you have your assistant that like your consciousness.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, where he was like, was that the one
Speaker 2: where he was trying to teach dudes how to get chicks?
Speaker 2: He's like a he's like a pickup artist, like coach.
Speaker 1: I think there's two. He's in two, I believe.
Speaker 2: Okay, never mind, that's that one.
Speaker 1: There's the other one where there's a little like a
Speaker 1: little it's like your AI assistant, but it's your call.
Speaker 2: He gets trapped in like a snowball snow globe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're like put your consciousness in this machine
Speaker 1: and this the entity in the machine knows your life
Speaker 1: and has this thing. But to train it, they would
Speaker 1: like put it on pause, which would be weeks at
Speaker 1: a time of just being in this white kind.
Speaker 2: Of yes room.
Speaker 1: It's yeah again, It's there episodes that really stick with
Speaker 1: you and you think about it for for days. How
Speaker 1: did they come up with it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was wild. I remember that one did stick
Speaker 2: with me. It was a it was a Christmas spatch too,
Speaker 2: and I remember watching it at Christmas and I was like, damn,
Speaker 2: that's crazy. And then did you see the one, uh
Speaker 2: that was maybe a couple years back, the Miley Cyrus episode. Yep,
Speaker 2: that one was that one was great because that was like,
Speaker 2: what if they're just stealing ship from the pop stars
Speaker 2: and they're going to create like an AI pop star,
Speaker 2: Like now, we're at the point where they're actually rolling
Speaker 2: out AI pop stars.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's a scary world that we live in. Jay,
Speaker 1: what's your when you see we when we go to
Speaker 1: LA and stuff? Is it for live shows and stuff
Speaker 1: you tour you tour the podcast.
Speaker 2: Around or well yeah, so basically, yeah, we we did.
Speaker 2: Ah it's actually Sam Tripley have to always have to
Speaker 2: give props. I love to do my Sam Tripley laugh there. Uh.
Speaker 2: Sam Tripley was like, dude, you gotta do a lot
Speaker 2: of shows, dupe, and I was like, live shows. I
Speaker 2: never thought about that. So he's the one that suggested,
Speaker 2: like three years ago, start doing live shows. And so
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, let's try it out. And
Speaker 2: we did one in Nashville, and the idea was to
Speaker 2: kind of make it a mixed media event where I
Speaker 2: do the comedic stuff, I do about thirty impressions, try
Speaker 2: to you know, do crowd work and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Then my wife does a talk on the subject matters
Speaker 2: that she covers in her books. She does a lot
Speaker 2: of esthetery Colleywood type stuff as well, So she does
Speaker 2: about an hour lecture on that, and then I do
Speaker 2: an hour lecture and that it did really well, so
Speaker 2: we decided to keep doing that. I think the first
Speaker 2: year twenty twenty three, we did like seven live events
Speaker 2: and one of those was LA. We did Austin, we
Speaker 2: did Orlando, Nashville, and we had so much fun in
Speaker 2: LA that we reached out to Jamie Kennedy and got
Speaker 2: him and talked him into doing a show with us,
Speaker 2: which was which was a lot of fun, nice and yeah, Dad,
Speaker 2: what do you want me to do? You need to
Speaker 2: just shign autographs and may just stand that lay line.
Speaker 2: And it's funny because he always shows up, like because
Speaker 2: we've done two shows with him now, he shows up
Speaker 2: after I've done the impression of him, and I always
Speaker 2: want him to be there when I'm doing the impression.
Speaker 2: He's like totally Hollywood, so he like shows up when
Speaker 2: the gig is starting. Anyway. Yeah, So we started doing
Speaker 2: these events with Jamie Kennedy and then we decided to
Speaker 2: do a podcast tour. That's what we did this go round.
Speaker 2: So I didn't do any live events this time. In LA.
Speaker 2: I went and did we did the Hodge Twins, and
Speaker 2: we did Rousalom's podcast, and we did Tripoli and we
Speaker 2: did whatever podcast, which was insane. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you know, but like the if you stay for the panel,
Speaker 2: I didn't realize this. You're basically locked in there with
Speaker 2: all the hose for like eight hours and it's like
Speaker 2: it's one hundred degrees in there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well I knew that just from watching clips. I didn't
Speaker 1: remember a couple episodes. I saw Andrew Wilson and he
Speaker 1: was like, it's so hot here, and but I didn't
Speaker 1: realize it was like eight hours.
Speaker 2: It's eight hours the second so the day I went,
Speaker 2: we had that debate with that stupid feminist girl, the
Speaker 2: Destiny Female Destiny, and then they're like, oh, you want
Speaker 2: to stay for the panel, but yeah, sure, I'm thinking, okay,
Speaker 2: the panel is what another two hours the next day? Yeah? Sure,
Speaker 2: No eight hours the next day and I'm like what
Speaker 2: And you're locked up in his like you know, his
Speaker 2: his studio thing there, like it's a key entry. So
Speaker 2: it's like some kind of this some sort of weird
Speaker 2: m cultural like like humiliation ritual. And I mean, I
Speaker 2: had a great time. I'm not trying to be a
Speaker 2: dick to Brian and whatever. It's just it's just a
Speaker 2: wild experience and then you're basically talking to these you know,
Speaker 2: of models for eight hours and it was wild. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love those clips, but it's no, it actually has
Speaker 2: one hundred degrees in there. For some reason, there's not
Speaker 2: a c I don't know what's going on, but I
Speaker 2: mean you're just sitting there sweating and it's just anyway,
Speaker 2: long story short, we did a whole a podcast tour
Speaker 2: this time around, but we do want to probably get
Speaker 2: back to doing more of those live events because I
Speaker 2: have so much fun doing those. Those are more fun.
Speaker 2: I mean, podcasts are great, but like as you know,
Speaker 2: being a stand up, like, there's just something about like
Speaker 2: the live audience and the interaction and the improv and
Speaker 2: all of that that that's so much fun. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so we intend to do more of those, and especially
Speaker 2: now that the third book's coming out in a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks, I'll probably do some more live events pushing
Speaker 2: the book.
Speaker 1: That's great. What else would you like to plug? My friend?
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me. I'm gonna definitely you know,
Speaker 2: spread this weird try to promote you know, your stuff,
Speaker 2: and thanks for having me on. This is really cool.
Speaker 2: I always love actually my favorite podcast or just talking
Speaker 2: to comedians. That's that's way more fun than all this
Speaker 2: like dark bullshit. All this dark stuff gets old and
Speaker 2: most of the time when people invite you on, they
Speaker 2: want to talk about some serious thing and I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I'd rather just joke around and have fun. But yeah,
Speaker 2: So usually host the fourth hour of Lord of Voldemort
Speaker 2: on Fridays, but sometimes it changes. At least once a
Speaker 2: week I do that. I've been doing that for five years.
Speaker 2: You can always catch me over there at Info Wars.
Speaker 2: Don't know if I'll be back on Peers. I would
Speaker 2: love to go back if they invite me back, but anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you could just find me on my channel. I've been
Speaker 2: doing two or three live streams a week for the
Speaker 2: last five years, so I have probably multiple live streams
Speaker 2: upcoming in the next couple of weeks. You want to
Speaker 2: watch that stuff, and we do a lot of just
Speaker 2: kind of goofy riffing on clips and videos and Q
Speaker 2: and a sometimes calling debates. So that's what I do
Speaker 2: on my channel. You can follow me on X and
Speaker 2: then if you want to get start Carly WITHO three
Speaker 2: it's going to be coming out in a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks and you can get pre orders at the website
Speaker 2: in my shop, and all the copies are signed. So
Speaker 2: the advantage of getting it for me is that it
Speaker 2: is signed. You don't have to request it being signed.
Speaker 2: Don't get it from Jeff Bezos. I don't get anything
Speaker 2: if you buy it from Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 1: So oh is that right? You don't get anything at all?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Not really, Well, and follow Jason Analysis on Instagram, and
Speaker 1: do subscribe to the Jay Dyer YouTube channel. Man, this
Speaker 1: was great. I hope you'll come back on. We'll be
Speaker 1: even more jokey and we got into some serious.
Speaker 2: And I don't mind. I mean, I'm happy. I mean
Speaker 2: just to have jokes at all, you know, and silly
Speaker 2: right right off at all is great. So I'm not
Speaker 2: criticizing you at all.
Speaker 1: All right, hang out for just a second, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to sign off. Thanks to my guest, Jay Dyer,
Speaker 1: and we'll see you guys again. Be sure to subscribe, like,
Speaker 1: and follow on all the social media's. We'll see you again.
Speaker 1: My name is Julian Dion. Thank you everybody.