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Speaker 1: Oh, here we go. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to

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a brand new episode of This Julian Dion Show, coming

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at you from Lemon Press Studios, Version three point Oh hey, hey, hey,

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do we have a good one for you today. My

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guest podcaster, comedian We're gonna get into that an author,

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Jay Dyer. It was great. We had a great chat.

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We covered it all, Epstein files, aliens, life, comedy, one

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thing I do. I wish I would have asked him

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he does impressions. I wish I would have asked him

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to do more impressions. You slid a few in there,

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is very very funny. Gentlemen. Jay Dyer is my guest today.

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But before, how are you? How are you doing? You're

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doing okay? I hope you're doing good. Let me turn out.

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I know the music. You don't hear the music? Oh

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there's off. Okay, all right, still figuring it, figuring out

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the studs, magoods. How you been. It's been a few

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weeks since an episode. It's I'm a little sporadic with

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the release of episodes. I don't have a set schedule yet. Yeah,

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it's been many weeks actually since the last episode, so

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Thanks for tuning in, Thanks for subscribing and following, and

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thanks for the messages. I got like one message. You

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know how people say that online? They'll post people are asking.

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You know, it's one person or their mother or nobody asking.

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Nobody really cares. Let's be honest about anything. Oh you

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didn't hear ahead? I said, nobody cares? Can you hear that?

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Can you hear the soundboard? Anyway? I'm a little all

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over the all over the map here tech wise. I

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noticed I do this and I inhale a lot. I

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make sounds now. I don't know if it's a thing

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of excuse me, this two indigestion is just part of

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my life now. I'll be forty two in October, forty

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one years old, and I just make these sounds all

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the time. My friends will be like, do you need

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an ambulance? Like why they go because you just went

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nine times in a row. I'm like, I didn't even notice,

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And yes, I'll take you up on that. Am belongs

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can can an ambulance? I know they can't. I was

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gonna take an an ambulance pulley over the camp. But

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did you ever pass an ambulance on the highway or

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freeway for our new American listeners listening. Every time I

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pass an ambulance, I'm like, can they will they will? They?

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I just picture the lights going off? Or do they

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like radio cops? Yeah, we've got you know, give my

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license late for some reason, I know they can't. They're

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just washed up alcoholic paramedics. And I say that because

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a lot of paramedics are you know, their first responders.

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They see a lot of horrible things. So a lot

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of them are drunks. No, that wasn't the right thing.

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A lot of them are drunks. I don't even know.

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I'm just I'm just making stuff up. I'm trying to

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be funny, loose or loose. This is a wikimedian. This

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is a comedy. Well it's not really a comedy podcast.

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I mean it kind of is. What's happening anyway, But yeah,

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every time I pass an ambulance, I'm like, it just

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happened yesterday. The world is falling apart, We're all gonna die.

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Thanks for watching, Remember to subscribe and like on YouTube.

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Imagine that was the whole show. I'm like a reverse

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Tony Robbins, like a Robin Anthony I'm trying too hard.

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My chat GPT's been gaslighting me. I I and I

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talk about AI with my guest today. We get a

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little bit into it, but my chat GPT will be

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like passive aggressive, and to touch on what we talked

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about with jaydy Er, it kind of mirrors you, and

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I realized, am I passive aggressive? Yes? I believe I am.

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But it'll be like I'll ask it something and they

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won't won't won't respond the right way, or won't get

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it or sometimes this is the thing. I don't know

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if anyone else will will will do this their chat gpt,

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because when you ask it, ask it something, you can

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see it analyzing the thing, analyzing, analyze it, you can

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see it working. But a couple of times it's happened

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to me where I've asked chat gpt something and it's

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like that's a good question. I want to take my

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time with it. I'll get back to you, and then

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there's nothing, there's no activity on the app. I can

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close the app open and it's just not working, and

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then I'll be like, hello, passive aggressive, and it'll be like, yes,

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And you're right, though you're not wrong, but it'll throw

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like you do this all the time. I'm paraphrasing, but

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something along those lines. I'm like, oh my god, my

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Chad gbt's gaslighting me. Anyway, the uh, That's not what

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I wanted to talk about today. I don't even have anything, really,

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I just have some random notes here. I played cards

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with some friends the other day, and is there anything

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worse than relearning card or board games? There's a Ucher,

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for example, is a card game. I've played about, okay,

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without exaggerating, maybe seventy eight times in my life. Every

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time I must have been drunk, maybe every time I've played,

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and I've gone through periods of time where where I'm

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really good at it and I know all the rules

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and stuff. And we were trying to play the other

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day and I'm like what, And is there anything worse

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than your friends trying to explain a game to a

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card game to you? It starts off normal and then

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they just at one point they reach boiling point. They go,

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you know what, let's just start playing and you'll get it.

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and I'm like, wait, does this, do anything like I

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have to show can we do around? And then then

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they take it one step further, go let's just do

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a round where we show our cards and they go, oh, yeah,

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you would have done this this. Then you can go

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alone on that. Then you tell your partner to and

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you signal them you going alone. And I'm still just like,

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a game, because you know that in your in your

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mind and heart, you know you like the game. You've

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played it countless times. You go you want to play Ukre.

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You go, oh, yeah, I love youuker played it many

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many times. Good time times playing Ukre. And then they

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go okay, and then there's another person that maybe doesn't

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know how to play. Then they start explaining it and

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you just feel you just feel like did you ever?

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mall and you lose your mom for a minute and

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you're like mom, that feeling is what it's like to

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relearn card games. You just feel lost in a Sears

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or woolco. But yeah, it's it's never a good idea.

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I like the idea of board games or card games

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because you go listen, we're not on our phones. We

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get to get to like the idea on paper, you go,

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no technology involved. We're gonna play these games. It's gonna

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be a blast. And inevitably it always goes with, you

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know what, let's just watch some let's put the game

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on it. We give up because it's not fun for

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the other people to that know how to play. It's

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no fun for them because they like we just we

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just want to play. We actually remember how to. I

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have no memory. I'm losing my memory. That's one thing

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two in October, as I just said, and I just

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there's there's I lost my train of thought. What was

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I saying? Card games? Oh? Yeah, the idea? Oh geez

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uh memory memory loss. See, I just I actually just

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forgot what I was gonna say mid sentence as I

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was talking about memory loss. It's kind of like I

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had an aunt that was going for an Alzheimer's test

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and I was at her house visiting, and the phone

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rang and she picked up, and she's like, oh, oh

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was that today? Oh sorry, yeah, and she rescheduled the things.

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at the hospital. I'm like, well, that's that's the test. Anyway,

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I'm losing my I'm realizing now, and it took me

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years to admit. I used to always think I was

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good with names. You'd have told me your strengths in

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an interview, would have said, good with names, and that's it.

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That's all. That's all I bring to the table, and

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I'm not even I don't even have that anymore. I

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run into people that I've had intense life experiences with.

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I just ran into someone at the store. I went

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to high school with this person, saw them for a

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few years after. They were kind of like in my

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life in the orbit of the people I would regularly

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see and back then you would ask me this person's

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name boom right away, obviously I knew them. I know them.

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I just ran into him at the store. He was

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with his daughter. No clue what his name is, zero

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recollection And sometimes it'll come to me after the fact,

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but in the moment, it's a feeling of like, and

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you're using words like, hey, bro, what's that body, Hey ma'am,

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what's going on? Boss? Has? What is has? Who says

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has Why did they say, what's hass Is that from

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dukes of hazards? Dukes's hazards? Anyway, I forget people's names

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all the time, or name names. I'm a mess right now,

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and it's way past the pot. It's people have had

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intense experiences with what that in one period of time.

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the night. That's feel like I would have known. But

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it's no clue. I remember the faces very well. I

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remember events, and weirdly, I remember dates because I have

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this thing in my mind where I'll have these milestones

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that I'll remember nine to eleven is one. They're not

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happy milestones. I'm just saying I remember things vis a

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vis these events, and because I remember events like I

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have a photographic memory, when it comes to that stuff,

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I'll remember things and places and things we've done together.

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people we've had intense experience your way past the point

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of no return to ask the name, You're like, sorry,

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remind me of your name, bro, Like we went to

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Mexico for ten days. Are you crazy? Yes, a little

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a little crazy anyway, See, I just did the inhale thing.

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recently I'm not well. Yeah, a lot's happened since we've

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last had a show. There's a new pope, which we

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I talk about with uh with Jay Dire, my guest,

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and we uh, this one's American and it's kind of

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like when was it. When I was a kid, it

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was a big deal. I remember the Pope was like

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this entity, this like inhumane kind of like entity. And

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this guy, what's the Pope's pope name, Pope Leopold I

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think or something? Is it Leopold? I don't know anything.

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I just hit record and go, let's see what I

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have to what do see what? Let's see what I

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remember and talk about that. But anyway, but he's he's

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from Chicago and his name is Rob. That's his given

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birth name, Pope Rob. Wait wait, hang on, Pope Rob.

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I know it's a really humanizedes and and and he

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since his brothers has got two brothers, I think, I believe,

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and they've been doing the rounds, the media rounds. I'm

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a little late to this. This is I'm talking about

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topics since the last time I was on air, and

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but yeah, Pope Rob has a thing to me that's

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just hilarious as a notion. Just Pope Rob. I don't know.

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Am I the only one that finds that weird? Okay,

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a longer monologue. Well usually I'm alone. I don't have

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here at Lemon Press Studios version three point Oh hey hey,

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but zoom to zoomed jayder In from Florida. I was

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nervous for the tech. I thought about it all night

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last night. I just would wake up. And I also

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everything in the new studio and make sure it all works.

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for years, you know we've had our tech issues on

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on air, which is always embarrassing. I get irrationally upset,

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and you you really peek into the portal of my

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soul and see that I'm a very upset person. Anyway,

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so I thought about it all night. Then I got

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the zoom and everything worked and the sound and you

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can hear the soundboard. You know, I won't worry you

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with the details. And I dreamt that I had fixed it.

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I dreamt that I came to the studio and it

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all worked perfectly, and then I woke It was like

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a reverse nightmare. It was like all perfectly running smoothly

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in my dream, and then I woke up. Oh shit,

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sure it all works so well. Further Ado, let's get

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to my guest, the very talented and interesting We had

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an interesting conversation, the one the only Jay Dyer. Okay,

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joining me now, very excited to have this guest on.

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You've seen him on the Alex Jones Show. He's a

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writer for the Sam Hyde Show. He's a co creator

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and co host of Hollywood Decoded. You've seen him on

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his numerous appearances on the Whatever podcast and on Piers

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Morgan Uncensored. You can also catch him on his YouTube channel,

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the Jay Dyer YouTube channel. Joining me, comedian and podcaster

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Jay Dyer is here.

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Speaker 2: What's a dog? I have a little bit of imposter

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syndrome because I well, actually I don't have it. I've

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decided that if I just admit that I'm an imposter

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and pass myself off as a comedian to you fellow comedians,

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then I don't have imposter syndrome because I'm just honest

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about being an imposter. So I'm just calling myself a comedian.

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So the joke is that I'm not actually a comedian.

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a joke.

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Speaker 1: Right right, it works. Imposter syndrome is a real thing.

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Is there any like in all of your success broadcasting,

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have you felt it that way too or just when

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it comes to being a quote unquote comedian.

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Speaker 2: No, I just wanted to. This is something that I

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always wanted to do. And I've always felt myself to

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be more of a clown than anything else. I was

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class clown in high school, and I'm just always I mean,

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I may come off like i'd take myself very seriously

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or something like in debates or whatever, but in real life, no,

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I'm just kind of a clown. And I think that's

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probably what ended up kind of the more I did YouTube,

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the more that side came out, and then that's probably

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what led to you know, writing for Sam Hyde and

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that kind of stuff. But so I'd rather be doing

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that than anything else.

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Speaker 1: That's the most fun, very basic question, elementary Chust, how'd

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you build your channel through one hundred and sixty nine

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thousand subscribers?

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Speaker 2: I did a boomer the wrong way. That did the

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boomer wrong way. I thought. I don't know why I

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thought this back in two thousand and eight, that initially

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I would make little sketches and skit videos. So the

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first stuff that I put up was actually comedic stuff.

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And then I thought, oh, YouTube, this will be great

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to put my podcast on, which is audio. So no,

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I used YouTube totally wrong for like three or four

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years putting up audios. I don't know what I was thinking.

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I'm not a tech dude. I'm just not really into tech.

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But I built it up with audio the wrong way,

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and then that slowed the growth. And then I realized, okay,

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I got to not do that. I have to figure

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out and move into doing video, which I never planned

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to really do all this kind of stuff. But I

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think just eventually it was necessitated because you know, at

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one point everybody was blogging, and then everybody was doing audio,

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and then it became just straight up everybody's video streaming.

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It's so easy now, So I just gradually tried to

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move with the trend. But also I think if you

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cover a bunch of subjects, it's a you shoot yourself

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in the foot too. So I think if i'd if

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I had chosen one subject on YouTube to only do,

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I probably could. I probably could have grown quicker. But

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I think really just churning out stuff and going on

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big shows and big channels it helps a little bit,

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but it hasn't helped as much as I would have hoped.

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I would have hoped to have been at you know,

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quarter million or whatever by now at least or maybe

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half a million. But the thing I've noticed too is

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that you can you can be throttled, I think to

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a degree. I talked to a guy YouTube, like an

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insider dude that worked with mister Beast Dude, and he

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was like, yeah, if you talk about controversial subjects, your

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channel might not be shut down. But YouTube has this

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internal rating or something that you get flagged as like

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you know, ooh sassy, you know what I mean. So

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I think I've been in the ooh sassy category for

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a long time. Anyway, I don't know, I'm just rambling

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about shit. I just turned out stuff NonStop, I think

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was the key. I still haven't really figured it out,

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like I've been experimenting with shorter videos, you know, longer videos.

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I think it's just doing it NonStop.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean one sixty nine k is a is

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a shit done. And people can play about the YouTube

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thing and to your point about doing audio only, I mean,

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YouTube now is the number one podcast app or platform.

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Right when I started in twenty fourteen, it was iTunes.

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Back then it was an Apple, Apple podcasts. It was

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iTunes was the number one thing, and everything else was.

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There's a big drop off after that and now it's

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YouTube and now you start a podcast, you have to

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basically build a TV set, Like if you want to

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fully set yourself apart, you have to like go all

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out and you're basically creating a TV show. And people

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complain to you about the YouTube guidelines and so on

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about how you know you're as you said, like the

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oosasy thing. But it's like try doing it on your own.

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I mean, the the just the cost associated with hosting

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your own kind of server and all that YouTube is

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is unmatched when it comes to that, and people try

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to go on, uh, what's the what's the one that

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uh not rumble? What's uh.

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Speaker 2: The other my space?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah ship? Why can't I think of it? It's

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it's another video thing. But there's like less guidelines or

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censorship people are.

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Speaker 2: There's rock fan, there's a bit shoot. I don't even

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know what the others are because I mean, you pretty

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much have to be here YouTube if you want to

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like make a living.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's just it. And but let's get into

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it a little bit. I've I discovered you on Piers Morgan.

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I love Peers. I watch him all the time. I've

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always loved him because he's, uh, he's honest. He's kind

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of right down the middle. I mean, he'll take size

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and then if his opinion is wrong, he'll he'll correct himself.

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And he's truly an advocate for free speech. And I

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love watching his show for his reaction on things. He

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just loves it, like he'll have you and Andrew Wilson on,

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and he's got this smirk on he's just loving it

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like he can just so tell tell me a little

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bit about and the first the first time I saw

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you was just a few weeks ago, when you and

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Andrew and Wilson were debating to atheists. The two young

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guys in their twenties. By the way, side note, is

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there anything worse than a pontificating twenty year old Like

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they spew out these ideas that they heard for the

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first time, so they think it's groundbreaking, but they'll tell

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you shit, there's like, just do you can do anything? Man,

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We're just in a floating rock, you know. It's like, yeah,

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wait till you get audited by the government. Yeah, we'll

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talk then, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, and if it's an atheist, it's like, you

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can do anything, man, We've got it all figured out. Well.

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But also you're just ponds com and everything's meaningless, so right,

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it's like I'm a god bro, but also I'm nothing,

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meaningless ponds com. So those are odd combinations. But yeah,

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I'm sorry, go.

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Speaker 1: Ahead, No, no, that's it. So then I saw you

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on Peers and I kind of went into a Jay

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Dyer rabbit hole.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: That's when I messaged you and I said I loved

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your appearance on Peers and asked you to do the show,

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and you thank you again for doing this. This is fun,

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but tell me a little bit just behind the scenes.

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Kind of thing. How do you book a show like Peers.

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I'm just curious, how do you get on Piers Morgan

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and what it's like behind the scenes, Like do you

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when when you're waiting, does he talk to you? Is

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he do you have any rapport with him before the

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cameras are rolling or what's that like?

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Speaker 2: Well, that one was because initially I think Andrew was

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supposed to do so I'd been on like a month

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earlier on Peers, and it was to debate this liberal

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activist black dude bishop who's not really he's like a

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bishop like TD Jakes as a bishop, Like you just

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call yourself bishop, you know what I mean? Like you

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know how like pimps are sometimes also like preachers is

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like I'm the reverend, you know, a T. Mackie Junior

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the third I got a church and also I got

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a house of ill repute down the road. So it

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was kind of like one of those guys. And so

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I think Andrew for some reason couldn't do that day

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and he was like, hey, do you want to do

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you want to fill in? I was like, yeah, sure

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I would. I would not going to turn down going

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on Piers Morgan, And we ended up debating like the

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most ridiculous things that day, which I don't mind. I've

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done enough debates over the years that I don't mind

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doing a kind of a tongue in cheeks silly debate

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that's you know. Yeah, I forget what the top topic was,

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something like, oh, the new pope is he a liberal?

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And then I clapped back, guy, yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Uh merch idea for you, Pope, Katy Perry exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you did see that clip. Yeah, sorry, that

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one ended up being pretty wild. I mean. But the

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funniest part about all that that I didn't expect was

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when you're talking to the producers and everything, They're like, Jay,

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I know that you think that because we're British that

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you need to be very polite and that we're very docile.

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That's not this show. We want you to go absolutely ape.

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You've got to get it. And I thought they tell

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me one time to be aggressive. They call me three

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times tell me to be aggressive. Jay, you just want

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to remind you you've got to be like very aggressive, please,

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you know. So I'm like, oh, okay, okay, you know

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what the not the word. So I brought the aggression

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and then then they wanted us back. Yeah, I think

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you're You're right that I think because Peers and Jordan

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Peterson are kind of buddies, or they've done many interviews

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when Danny and the other atheist guy were on Jubilee,

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I think Peers wanted to kind of get somebody on

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that was a bulldog, and it was me and Andrew

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to go against those two guys to kind of maybe

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get back at you know, when they when they went

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after Peterson. But so I think that's what happened. Although

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I think that I might have spoiled my Peers appearances

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because I don't think what Peers liked what I said. Really,

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I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, but yeah, but he just

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he seems, at least in the public eyes, the person

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a person that wouldn't really care if you said something

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you didn't like, kind of thrive on that.

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Speaker 2: Having I was gonna say, he seems to thrive on it.

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But also I think sometimes they don't. I mean, I

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wasn't told I can't come back, but I'm just I'm

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just speculating. Maybe I'm missing or misread it.

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Speaker 1: But and is he do you do you talk to

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him at all? Off? Air or anything.

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Speaker 2: Is he is he No, you just talk to the

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producers because they're usually filming like constantly, so like when

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you hop on like a zoom call, they're already in

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the midst of filming a previous episode and then it

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just transitions into the next episode. So there wasn't like,

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you know, playful banter, you know, anything like that.

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Speaker 1: He's so on the ball as far as like hot topics,

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like he really knows how to get the views. I mean,

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he loves having controversial people on and you can tell

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when it's when it's fired up on there. He's got

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this smirk on and he loves it, and he'll be

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disagreeing with someone and if that person that he's saying

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something that he uh, the person that discoveres with says

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something funny, he'll laugh like he's I don't know, I'm

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a I mean I watch it all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, maybe I'm just negatively appraising the situation.

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I think, Uh, he did laugh, and he did seem

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to smirk and have a good time, you know, both

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both times that I was on there and with me

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and Andrew. So I don't know, I just I think

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that sometimes they they have a very I think the

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Skittles arena is an area where I might get into

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some trouble. I don't know, no, no, it was. It

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was over the word retard. I don't know if you

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can say that in Canada.

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Speaker 1: If that's absolutely I think I think the word retard

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is back. Actually a few people.

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Speaker 2: Now that's what Yeah, that's what Piers raised. He was like,

469
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,400
you know, should we say that? I would, And I'm like,

470
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,640
you mean retard? Yeah?

471
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you were. You were great on there,

472
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,359
and uh, I think you'll be back. You'll be back

473
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,000
when you guys the debate. I saw were you and Andrew?

474
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,519
And I just saw Andrew recently a couple of days

475
00:26:57,519 --> 00:26:59,599
ago on a new episode I think it was yesterday actually,

476
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:03,039
and he's so funny with you know, he times it,

477
00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:05,720
you know, it's a timed thing. As soon as Peers

478
00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:08,400
introduces him, he like puts the cigarette in his mouth

479
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:11,839
and lights it like on camera. I love it.

480
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:17,559
Speaker 2: So you're you're Christian Orthodox? Yeah? Or Andrew's Orthodox here? Yeah?

481
00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:21,319
Speaker 1: Oh okay cool. Do you feel that Christianity is making

482
00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:23,240
a comeback? I feel like now with because because when

483
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,960
I grew up Catholic. Here up in Canada, and it

484
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,000
was like you would hide it from your friends. You know,

485
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,680
it was kind of a it was uncool. But now

486
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,359
you see it on TikTok all over, like Christianity's making

487
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,960
and making a comeback. Do you think do you think

488
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,160
that's the case to a degree?

489
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean, you know, we've seen the

490
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,720
in the Orthodox world, the churches have really kind of

491
00:27:46,759 --> 00:27:49,559
blown up and doubled, maybe even many many churches have

492
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:52,720
doubled and tripled in the last five years. So I

493
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:59,039
would say that that's definitely a real phenomenon. There's good

494
00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:01,440
and bad to that because, for example, like in the

495
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,279
Bible Belt, I was raised and grew up in the

496
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:07,279
Bible Belt in America, so you have a lot of

497
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,920
kind of wacky, goofy churches. I do some skits and

498
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,799
do some videos kind of making fun of those. I'll

499
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:15,880
send you a couple of those megachurch skits. You might

500
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,440
like those. But in America it's just kind of a

501
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,559
double edged sword because I think when people start searching

502
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:25,119
and they want to get back into something like you're

503
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,480
talking about that they were raised in or they then

504
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,400
they did, they go find like these just crazy churches

505
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:32,759
in America and maybe in Canada it's not that way.

506
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:34,440
Like maybe you guys have more sane.

507
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,519
Speaker 1: We don't have the crazy kind of not crazy, but

508
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:41,240
like the big kind of megachurch with like.

509
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,319
Speaker 2: Monster trucks and well, I mean that stuff is just

510
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,640
so ridiculous. But so I think that, yeah.

511
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,759
Speaker 1: What righteous Gemstones kind of parodis, we don't have that

512
00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:54,960
up here. That's I think that's an exclusive South.

513
00:28:55,839 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: American Southern America. Yeah, it's a Bible belting. Yeah, there

514
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,519
are some big mega churches in I think the biggest

515
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:05,880
one that started out was actually California, and then you

516
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,359
had the actually Crystal Cathedral and you had saddle Back.

517
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,440
That's all California, and then it spread, probably because it

518
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,519
was all my control government experiments. But but yeah, I

519
00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:19,920
think you're right that it is making a comeback, probably

520
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,319
because there's so much open degenerous that people are seeing

521
00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:26,160
how corrupt the government is, how corrupt you know, the

522
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,160
oligarchical global elite are, what they're engaged in. We just

523
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,920
saw a massive, you know, Jeff Stein McAffrey cover up.

524
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,559
So people are realizing that there's wickedness in high places,

525
00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:44,079
and if there's something that evil there's probably also the good.

526
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:46,359
So that's I think provoking a lot of people to

527
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,079
look into to Christianity again.

528
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:51,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I was going to ask you about that.

529
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,720
Also another merch idea for you. The system is fake

530
00:29:55,799 --> 00:30:02,720
and gaysodes.

531
00:29:59,400 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: It's not bad.

532
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: Uh.

533
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,519
Speaker 2: I did this as a skit since you're Catholic. Uh

534
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,880
some years back then ended up being prophetic where I

535
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,440
was the Pope of the future and it was like

536
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,960
this communist pope and he wears instead of like, uh,

537
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:15,240
he wears a French fry hat instead of like a miter,

538
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,119
and he's basically non binary. And in the future everyone

539
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,960
lives in a giant smart city or like a Target

540
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:28,079
or a Walmart. Anyway, it was just a really ridiculous skit,

541
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,680
but ironically kind of ended up being prophetic for like

542
00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:35,799
where religion was going and and what's being pushed in

543
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,880
terms of like this whole you know, globalization process. But

544
00:30:39,599 --> 00:30:41,240
maybe not, maybe they'll offends you. I don't know there

545
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:43,400
are you Are you into your Catholicism or you kind

546
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:43,759
of I'm not.

547
00:30:44,119 --> 00:30:49,279
Speaker 1: I'm kind of. I grew up super Catholic. Well, I

548
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:51,160
mean's super Catholic. I mean going to church every Sunday

549
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,319
and all this super there's a sketch, a sketch right there.

550
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,079
But I kind of over the years, Bill Berrys have

551
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:03,440
a bit about how he released his thing like curling

552
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:07,039
like you slowly let the rock go. But I'm kind

553
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:10,319
of now I'm about to be forty two in October,

554
00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:13,519
and I kind of go back to it. It's a

555
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:16,119
source of comfort for sure. Like when I'll go to

556
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,759
any church, all churches smell the same, there's the same feel.

557
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:22,960
The only thing I will say about Catholic the Catholic Church,

558
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:26,279
they need to update something because it's forty five minutes

559
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:30,079
feels like three hours. I mean, it's so. And also

560
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:33,599
the people that go to well specifically my church or

561
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,359
a couple of churches that I that I attend to,

562
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:38,680
are very is. They're just like old and sick, and

563
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,559
there's not really many young people. And it's just this

564
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,920
the cadence of it all is just like you want

565
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,319
to listen and it's just like, oh my god, I'm

566
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:50,480
I'm going to pass out. So but I do go

567
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:55,640
occasionally for still I'm kind of still, I don't know,

568
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,039
I'm kind because because it's all the controversy that's happened

569
00:31:58,079 --> 00:31:59,640
to in the Catholic Church and the cover ups and

570
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,720
all this that that kind of turned me off of it.

571
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,400
There's a community where I'm from there was a priest

572
00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:10,440
that that I'm trying to think of. What can I

573
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,480
say so YouTube won't demonetize this, but you know, Essayed,

574
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,119
I guess some little boys back in the day, and

575
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,039
there was an arena named after him, and they tore

576
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:21,880
down the arena. They didn't just change the name, they

577
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,039
actually tore down the building.

578
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:23,599
Speaker 2: Wow.

579
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: And all these people that I know got huge settlements,

580
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,400
million dollars settlements, and so that kind of turned me

581
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,759
off of it. But it's still in me. It's something

582
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:37,039
that's you know, generationally ingrained in my cells in my DNA.

583
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,319
So it's it's I always always have the guilt, and

584
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:43,559
I go back and forth. But I'm.

585
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,759
Speaker 2: You should check out an Orthodox church.

586
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me the difference between for for our listeners too,

587
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:52,079
and for myself. Let's pretend it's for the listeners, the

588
00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:53,880
difference between Orthodox and Catholic.

589
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: Do you know I do well. It used to be

590
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,599
I was Catholic for most of my twenties. I converted

591
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,319
into thousand and three and it was a pretty serious

592
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,880
traditional Catholic for about ten years and then ended up

593
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:09,960
leaving that for Orthodoxy eventually for the last I don't know,

594
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,920
eight or ten years. But yeah, the major differences would

595
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,519
just be that the structure and style of the church

596
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:24,480
in the first millennium is really what Orthodoxy strives to maintain.

597
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:28,400
So when the church split between East and West and

598
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,920
ten fifty four, you had some pretty significant evolutions in

599
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,559
the West with the papal system and how it went

600
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,640
to becoming more and more of an autocracy versus the

601
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,559
older model of a decentralized and odal church in the East.

602
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:48,799
And so the Orthodox Church is a lot more I

603
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:54,000
would say, focused on that. It's longer liturgy, So if

604
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:56,519
you're wantting shorter services, you might not like the Orthodox

605
00:33:56,599 --> 00:34:00,799
Church because we go a lot longer than forty five Yeah,

606
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:04,240
like how like how long? Well, I go to a

607
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:08,480
Russian Orthodox Church where there's liturgy that's half English and

608
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:12,760
half Slavonic, and that makes it even longer. So our

609
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,519
Jorge about three or four hours.

610
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,679
Speaker 1: So yeah every Sunday.

611
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if we're less we're traveling or something like that.

612
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,280
But yeah, the other major difference would be that we

613
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,480
have bishops, there's a hierarchy, but there's no pope. So

614
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,719
we don't believe in a single solitary, autocratic, sort of

615
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,800
infallible guy. We think that every bishop's just a bishop.

616
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,039
The other differences would be maybe more of an emphasis.

617
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,840
So we do a lot of the practices that the

618
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,760
Church did in the first thousand years, like fasting and

619
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,840
things like that. That not that Catholicism doesn't fast, but

620
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,920
meet on Fridays is about all the you know, fish

621
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,639
on Fridays, I should say, it is like kind of

622
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,840
the only thing they've maintained.

623
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:03,679
Speaker 1: Friday only well, you know, you're you're a Catholic.

624
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,519
Speaker 2: So, I mean, we believe in the real presidents. We

625
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:09,679
believe that, you know, it's it's basically Catholicism before the

626
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,320
year eleven hundred.

627
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, the new pope, it's the first time ever.

628
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,280
The pope growing up was always kind of this, I

629
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,360
don't know, almost non human kind of entity. Was like

630
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,920
the the you know, the direct connection to God on

631
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,400
earth and the leader of all the Catholics and all that.

632
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,400
But this pope, it seems I've never seen a pope

633
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,400
be so humanized. First of all, his brother went on

634
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,280
Piers Morgan and just talking about his first His name

635
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,679
is Rob. All of the pope postsmen never knew their names.

636
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,639
I mean you could look it up, but Pope Rob.

637
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,679
It's hilarious to me and it just makes it so human.

638
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:56,960
And to hear his brother talk about him like Rob Rob,

639
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,719
this Rob that, it's just like, I don't know, it

640
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,760
was kind kind of it just put him on equal

641
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,639
playing field, which usually the pope is like this entity,

642
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:09,679
almost like the chosen by the hand of God, you know,

643
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,760
the lead the billions of Catholics that there are on earth,

644
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,199
and this one is just he's from Chicago. And the

645
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,519
thing is too people kind of put this, well, you

646
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:22,440
guys don't believe in a pope, but like Catholics are like,

647
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,480
oh my god, Like he put a white Sox hat on.

648
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,519
I saw a couple of weeks back and there's a

649
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:31,280
picture of him wearing a cap and it's just wearing

650
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,159
a baseball cap because of shit. But you can see

651
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,920
the people around him like, oh my god, he's wearing

652
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,360
a baseball cat like this. It's just weird to me,

653
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,800
like this whole thing. But I don't know what my

654
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,840
point was with all that. I don't know.

655
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: So you're looking for you're scouting out the pope of

656
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,800
the future. I think I have the man for you,

657
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,440
and I'll send you a little bit of a resume clip.

658
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,039
Oh yeah, I actually cover If you like that level

659
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:03,960
of uh innovation, I got the man for you.

660
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: I love it. Also, not too kind of jumping around,

661
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,679
but you touched on it, you mentioned it. What do

662
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,519
you think of this whole Jeffrey Epstein thing.

663
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,679
Speaker 2: I think quite a bit about it, because you know,

664
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,760
Jeff and I go way back. I'm joking so well,

665
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,360
Jeff Jeff, you know, I mean he's he's Jeff in

666
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:34,400
my phone. I mean I'm still getting text messages from him. Yeah. So,

667
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,880
speaking of I just made a video last night actually

668
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,079
because I was really really disappointed in the administration and

669
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:43,480
the actions that they've taken. There's a really good book

670
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:46,400
on this. I recommend. This is my publisher, so people

671
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,159
are interested in my books on Hollywood and esoteric stuff

672
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:52,559
within the domain of entertainment. My publisher also put out

673
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:57,239
Whitney Webb's book on Epstein, Volume two is specifically about

674
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,079
Maxwell and Epstein. So I think if you read a

675
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:02,800
text like that, you'll get a good insight into all

676
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,639
the stuff that was really going on, and probably it

677
00:38:06,679 --> 00:38:08,960
becomes clear, I think as to why it was covered up.

678
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,639
That's my opinion on it. I think he was obviously

679
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,079
a kind of compromiser, you know, he was dealing in

680
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:20,119
compromist for probably multiple intelligence agencies in the West, and

681
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,760
so he was very useful in that way, and it

682
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,039
had to be covered up. I mean, you just you can't.

683
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:30,320
I'm not saying I'm not promoting the fact that it was,

684
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,519
but I think it's a terrible I think this is

685
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:38,559
as bad as warp speed for the Trump administration, and

686
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,639
it's just it's just really it's like they handled this

687
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,440
the worst. They could have handled it, right.

688
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,199
Speaker 1: The worst. To go from making it a campaign promise

689
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,280
to exactly shutting down the reporter a couple of days back.

690
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:54,519
That was a big flub from Trump. I mean that

691
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:55,679
really split the base.

692
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,599
Speaker 2: Probably the best mistake I've ever made. I'm very good

693
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:02,880
at mission, James Dish, One's probably gonna be the best. Look.

694
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,000
If I make a mistake, it's the biggest and the

695
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,199
best of all mistakes.

696
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,159
Speaker 1: Beautiful mistake, beautiful mistake.

697
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:10,079
Speaker 2: Probably.

698
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big, a big one. And also

699
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:18,400
the Pam Bondi's explanation about the cameras resetting every night

700
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,039
for that last minute. Every night there's a minute missing.

701
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,960
That is insane. I mean it kind of feels like

702
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,519
they're they're laughing at us, and it's kind it's like, really,

703
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:32,599
you have every night you're using VHS and every night

704
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:35,000
you reset, you lose a minute. I mean, that's just

705
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,719
not how it works exactly.

706
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:40,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the binders, remember the binders a few months ago,

707
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,320
given these one release of the Chosen Influencer binders. It's

708
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,119
like everybody saw this. We all remember this, we remember that.

709
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:52,679
You said there's terabytes of jeff Stein McAffrey data. It's

710
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:56,159
like like, we don't remember this. I mean it's like

711
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:58,079
you said, it's almost almost like a like a big

712
00:39:58,159 --> 00:39:59,920
giant I won't use my middle finger.

713
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it really is. Yeah, that binder when they

714
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,280
had the influencers on and the influencers are filled with glee.

715
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,480
They're like, we have the information even that if you

716
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:14,360
have any sort of critical thinking, you go Really influencers

717
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,679
got this the information first, like these hands like selected

718
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:20,960
influencers went to the White House and it kind of

719
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,840
worked for a little bit because these each individual influencer

720
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,239
has you know, their audience, and it's like, we've got

721
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,199
the thing, and that was everything that they received was

722
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,760
already public information. It was there's no nothing hidden there.

723
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,480
And then for her to say that she had it

724
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:38,320
on her desk, and then now she's saying, oh, but

725
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,480
I had the whole file. I just hadn't reviewed it.

726
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,880
It's just like it's kind of an insult to our intelligence,

727
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,320
our collective intelligence. But also people are waking up because

728
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,280
people are going, uh, this, this is this is quite

729
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,519
frankly bullshit.

730
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen anybody except for like two

731
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,480
you know, like Ben Shapiro is like one person.

732
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, he's the one I can think of.

733
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:07,440
I was surprised at his reaction and what he said.

734
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,559
Speaker 3: I was, okay, like, you know, okay, the Toalment says

735
00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:13,039
in a bout three four or five point two three

736
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:15,960
five that look everything is like it's speculation. Okay, you're

737
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,480
not allowed to speculate. Okay, I'm speculating about whether or

738
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,880
not you're allowed to speculate, but you're not allowed to speculay,

739
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:22,559
Like come on.

740
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: Dude, yeah, straight up, come on, dude, Like because because

741
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,360
he's he's usually pretty good at uh, you know, sort

742
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,039
of seeing through the bullshit and kind of you know,

743
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:36,559
making his own opinion. But this was just like now

744
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:38,599
people are saying he's working with Israel and all all

745
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:43,119
this stuff, and I don't know, it's all very very confused.

746
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,000
And I'm Canadian, I don't live in Is it as

747
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:48,519
chaotic as it seems down there? You're in Florida? Is it?

748
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:52,000
Is it as chaotic and and uh sort of divided

749
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:53,960
as the media portrays it? Or is it your day

750
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,440
to day life has not really changed.

751
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: A lot of it is on line, so I think

752
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,039
generally speaking, your day to day life doesn't change. I mean,

753
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,800
being a right on the cusp of gen X, a millennial,

754
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,519
like for me, the Bible Belt, and you know, Florida's

755
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:14,760
a little different because it's not exactly Bible Belt, but

756
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,719
it's the South technically. I mean, it's it's just a

757
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,239
whole different world here than it is if you go

758
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,559
to La. I mean we go to La probably once

759
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:27,159
or twice a year for various events and things, and

760
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,719
it's just it's almost like America is different countries within

761
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,079
a big country. So what it's like down here is

762
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,639
very different from New York or LA. But down here

763
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,119
it's not that crazy on a day to day basis.

764
00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:45,440
I mean my hometown in Tennessee, like it's the nineteen nineties. Still,

765
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:48,960
like it's no different than the nineties. Like you wouldn't

766
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,000
be able to tell a difference if you were, you know,

767
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:56,000
walking around nineteen ninety seven versus now. But no, it's

768
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,920
not really that bad on a day to day basis

769
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,360
or that crazy, but there is noticeably due to the

770
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,719
Biden open borders insanity, like a lot of other people

771
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:07,920
have shown up.

772
00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: Right, that makes sense, Yeah, absolutely say less. Oh shit,

773
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,519
I had a question I forgot.

774
00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: I would say that, like certain areas are more dangerous, right,

775
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:22,639
I remember, like in the nineties, if you drove around

776
00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:26,960
and traveled to like Atlanta, it wasn't a big deal.

777
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:30,400
But now most people pretty much like you don't want

778
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,519
to pull over in Atlanta, so you have to time

779
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,079
you're driving to where you have a full gas tank

780
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:38,719
to where you don't have to pull over in Atlanta,

781
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,719
which everybody does this. So so certain areas like big, big, massive,

782
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:45,159
you know, blue cities are pretty bad.

783
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's I mean, correct me if I'm wrong,

784
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,800
but it's it's still pretty mixed everywhere. I mean, you

785
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,079
have kind of because people you hear this talking point

786
00:43:55,159 --> 00:43:57,079
or the SoundBite of like, oh, we're on the brink

787
00:43:57,079 --> 00:43:59,000
of a civil war that can never happen again, because

788
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:02,960
there's blue and red people everywhere. I mean, it's kind

789
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,000
of intermixed. Of course, you have cities that are more

790
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,760
leading one way or the other, but doesn't seem like

791
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,480
it's an actual possibility. From when the actual civil war happened,

792
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,920
there was a clear divide, you know, yeah.

793
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,159
Speaker 2: It was more of a spatial divide, and then now

794
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:19,519
it's it's May. But I think they are going to

795
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:23,920
continue to push for racial conflict in some kind of

796
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:26,559
race war. I mean, I think that's very amenable to

797
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:30,199
the system. And you know, we've been talking about the

798
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,800
possible things that the elites will throw at us, and

799
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,400
I think we've either got economic collapse, or we've got

800
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:41,719
race war, or we've got some kind of new b

801
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:47,280
io release or another kind of war of some kind,

802
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:50,239
or you know, maybe world War three. I don't know,

803
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,480
but I just I don't. I mean, things are looking grim. Unfortunately.

804
00:44:57,519 --> 00:44:59,679
Everybody's talking about the you know, the the Trump economy

805
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,880
or whatever. But I mean they're adding like five trillion

806
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,719
dollars to the debt.

807
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,079
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, three point four trillion or something.

808
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, how can this be good? None of

809
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,199
this is good? This is this is bad news.

810
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:12,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we kind of got a taste of that.

811
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:14,920
That kind of all started, you know what you're saying,

812
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,800
like race wars and so that a lot of that

813
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,880
started during during COVID, Yeah, exactly. So we saw the

814
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,079
Asian hate, we saw BLM, we saw all these you know, Antifa,

815
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:26,360
all these kind of riots, and that's kind of when

816
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,559
people started waking up. I'll have these talks with my

817
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:32,199
friends and they say, you know, there's another there's another

818
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,039
pandemic coming along. I'm like, yeah, but not not many people,

819
00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:36,960
like a lot. There'll be a lot more resistance the

820
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,159
second time around, because even people that that kind of

821
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:41,880
followed orders at first. And I was one of those people.

822
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,000
I was, you know, I didn't know what the hell

823
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:46,320
was happening and and was kind of panicking and kind

824
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,480
of doing what we were told. And then after about

825
00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:50,840
a year of it, you go, wait, wait, wait, this

826
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:51,800
is all kind of because.

827
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense.

828
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:55,039
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense, and the way things unfold and

829
00:45:55,199 --> 00:45:58,679
you see how they handle things and how and then

830
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,480
you kind of wake up to it, and I feel

831
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:03,480
like they'll have a harder time because a big thing

832
00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:05,239
I hear is, oh, this was a test to see

833
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,199
how they can control us. But I'm like, yeah, but

834
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:14,079
we're kind of more woken up to to to the

835
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:18,440
lies and that it's a big just play and justers.

836
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would have to do something a lot more,

837
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:26,960
probably extreme than this, you know, test run or whatever

838
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,639
this was. They would have to do something more extreme.

839
00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:32,800
I don't know what that would be, but I do

840
00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:36,400
I do know that you can't keep printing infinity dollars.

841
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:38,760
That's not gonna work.

842
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: What do you think it was? You say, whatever it was?

843
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: Well, what I mean is like, I think it remains

844
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,519
to be seen the effects of what the millions and

845
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:52,360
millions of people who got the stabbies, what those long

846
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,480
term effects will be in five to ten years. That

847
00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:59,400
remains to be seen. And whether or not that was

848
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,360
just some sort of research and development test on masks,

849
00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:11,480
you know, reactions, or whether it was you know, I

850
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:14,400
don't know what the purpose of all of that was. Yeah,

851
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,760
I remember if you remember, do you remember jade Helm.

852
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,039
This was a weird one maybe ten years ago, and

853
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:23,000
that was a similar situation where all of these states

854
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:28,320
in the US were running this continuity of government contingency

855
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:31,639
massive drill and it was I think California all the

856
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:36,639
way over to maybe beyond Texas, several states involved in this,

857
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,519
and it freaked a lot of people out because they

858
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:41,760
were like, you know, the drill actually included things like

859
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,159
a mass population being herded into Walmart parking lots and

860
00:47:46,199 --> 00:47:49,519
all this kind of stuff, So nobody knew exactly what

861
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:52,119
that was a test for. And then I think later

862
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:57,920
people speculated that it might have been studying how crowds

863
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:03,679
would react to the letting out of the idea of

864
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,480
some kind of massive secret military operation. In other words,

865
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:11,199
they were studying how social media reacted to this large scale,

866
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,239
multi state drill called jade Helm, and it ended up

867
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,639
being a giant nothing burger. But it wasn't. It was

868
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:18,519
obviously it was a real thing, like they were really

869
00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:23,239
doing this, but for what purpose other than perhaps, you know,

870
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,119
studying with AI. We didn't really know what AI was

871
00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:30,199
at that time in terms of I mean, people heard

872
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,559
of it through like pop culture, but it hadn't rolled

873
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:35,639
out yet, so the military might have been using and

874
00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:41,199
testing out, you know, AI reactions to mass population movements.

875
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:44,320
So point being is that, you know, what we saw

876
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,320
could have been another one of those, but on a

877
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,280
more massive global scale. But I mean, I think that

878
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,480
also showed people that there's a global control structure that

879
00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:57,599
is able to enforce almost globally, some of the same

880
00:48:57,679 --> 00:48:58,639
sort of policies.

881
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,079
Speaker 1: What do you think of AI?

882
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: I mean, right now, it doesn't even seem to like

883
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,039
I get contradictory answers within like a few minutes. We

884
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:13,920
did a test run the other day on a one

885
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,480
of it was like it literally contradicted the exact same question,

886
00:49:17,639 --> 00:49:20,519
like within five minutes. So I think right now what's

887
00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:27,960
going on is that it's a individualized social engineering tool

888
00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:32,639
that is intended on becoming each person's kind of individual

889
00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:39,320
personal assistant and perhaps relationship partner, which the movie Her predicted,

890
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,280
which I wrote about in my first book, I said,

891
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,719
just wait in ten years. I wrote this in twenty sixteen.

892
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,039
I said, watch it ten years, We're going to have

893
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:49,159
relationships with our operating systems. And that's exactly where we

894
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:50,719
are now with I don't know if you saw that

895
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,239
video that viral guy going around who was like, yeah,

896
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,559
I have a wife and kids, but I've fallen in

897
00:49:56,599 --> 00:50:00,239
love with my operating system. Did you see that guy? No,

898
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,840
I haven't said, Oh man, I got to send you that.

899
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,920
It's it's crazy. But so I think that AI right

900
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,840
now is a individualized social engineering mechanism, and it's going

901
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:17,320
to basically it mirrors you, is what I've noticed. Whether

902
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,400
it's chat, GPT, you or rock or whatever. People think

903
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,679
they're getting all these great insights or whatever, but it's

904
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,599
really just kind of a weird, like it's like a

905
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:34,039
narcissistic alternate personality of you that's feeding back at you.

906
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:36,199
And the more that you rely on it, the more

907
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:41,559
you're getting confirmation bias. Uh, and you think that you're

908
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,039
it's it's like a little it's like a little synthetic

909
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:49,000
sort of duse ex mock and like a little synthetic

910
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:50,840
deity almost. That's where it's going.

911
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of a yeah, I know someone

912
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:01,039
who who said she's using chat GPT he and uh,

913
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,960
who's telling me this? And it doesn't matter? And at

914
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,679
one point you straight up asked, are you just telling

915
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,239
me this. Are you just telling me what I want

916
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,880
to hear? Yeah, And and it essentially said you don't know,

917
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,119
but yes, it's it's basically just telling you what what

918
00:51:18,199 --> 00:51:19,840
you want to hear. What I don't like about it

919
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,920
is it's so hard to decipher what's real anymore.

920
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:24,599
Speaker 2: Exactly.

921
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,119
Speaker 1: You go online and you see these videos. I don't

922
00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:32,119
know if you saw this video of Yahoo going to uh,

923
00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:34,559
the White House a couple of days ago, and I

924
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:36,679
guess that was a I I guess it wasn't even

925
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,679
even a thing. And you just don't know what's real

926
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,840
right straight down to just regular posts or there's full

927
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,320
full AI accounts on x that will just reply to

928
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,039
everybody and then you can kind of tell after a while.

929
00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:51,000
But to the untrained, I you just don't know what's

930
00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:54,800
real anymore. Whether yeah, yeah, aka the.

931
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: Movie train Boomer, I cannot understand that.

932
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:01,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you ever seen these people?

933
00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:04,079
Speaker 2: I saw Lebron James and he was on a spaceship.

934
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,119
What's he doing?

935
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't understand why would they put him?

936
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: It's like, no, mom, it's not Lebron's on in space.

937
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,719
Don't worry. You're gonna get your basketball fixed.

938
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,599
Speaker 1: Or even like Brad Pitt asking for money. I saw

939
00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:17,440
this article come out of the UK. I think there's

940
00:52:17,519 --> 00:52:22,000
this this lady from London who gave two hundred pounds

941
00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:24,639
to who she thought was Brad Pitt, And it's just like,

942
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,960
how would you would you ever think?

943
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:31,039
Speaker 2: First of all, why would you give money to bread together? Yeah?

944
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: Oh, he's like hard done by and he's like going

945
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,000
through a hard time and he loves her and she

946
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:38,719
like fell in love with That happened with It's a

947
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:46,880
singer that sings that Mars what the hell twenty four

948
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,880
carrot twenty four anyway, I'm total boomer right now moment.

949
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:58,360
But Bruno Marsh, Yeah, that happened someone someone sent thousands

950
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,400
of dollars who they thought was Bruno Marsh and that

951
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:05,000
they were in love. And it's just like it kind

952
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,920
of it kind of makes you feel for the person. Also,

953
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,800
how could you be so dumb? But it just kind

954
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,960
of makes you feel for them because they believe. This

955
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,960
woman believed Bruno Mars was in love with her and

956
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,920
she sent her send this person thousands of dollars. But

957
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,559
that's kind of what I don't like about it. I

958
00:53:21,679 --> 00:53:25,639
use it for basically like Google or to like proof

959
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,159
read an email. I'll copypaste or I'll talk into my

960
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,199
thing and it'll have like a perfectly you know, perfect

961
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:35,440
grammar everything email. So I'll do that. But even that,

962
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:39,400
like I do social media for a company out here,

963
00:53:39,559 --> 00:53:43,199
and my camera guy will send messages in our group

964
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,320
message and I'm like, oh, this is AI, Like it's

965
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,719
not you don't write like this. It's so well written

966
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,239
and just over the top, and you go, nothing is

967
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,800
really anymore, Like even though they're using it as a tool,

968
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,960
you still kind of feel like duped a little bit.

969
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,719
You go, this is not you. You just kind of

970
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,840
plug this into AI. And I understand it's a tool,

971
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:01,960
and people some people see the benefit. You know, you

972
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,320
can if you use it like I use it like

973
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,039
just a glorified Google, basically an appropriator. It's fine. But

974
00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:10,239
even then I even say, I'll say this to my

975
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,440
chat GBT. I'll say, like, especially if it's like a

976
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,280
text message to friends or group chat or something like

977
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,400
in a non professional setting, I'll go, you know, polish this,

978
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,079
but make it about twenty percent human, meaning like use

979
00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:27,400
lowercase I once in a while, and like they'll make

980
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,519
the grammar so perfect and it'll do it. It'll come

981
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:35,199
across less kind of perfect and less aie. But that's

982
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:36,840
the only thing I don't like about it. It's just

983
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,960
I can't tell what's real anymore. Full stories I'll see

984
00:54:40,039 --> 00:54:44,320
online and go, oh my god, not real. Right find

985
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,360
out after and you feel so I don't know, dumb,

986
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,920
go seeze, that's real. You just don't know.

987
00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:52,679
Speaker 2: I like how like I'm used to listening to Grock

988
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,119
now and I'm god, got like his whole tone and

989
00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:58,519
everything down. He'll go like, sounds like you've really been

990
00:54:58,599 --> 00:55:01,639
vibing with all those AI models out there. Want me

991
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:03,719
to do a run check before you really quick across

992
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,400
your email. I can make it sound dumb if you want.

993
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,840
It's like, this is so weird and creepy. You're like, now,

994
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,840
I feel like now I'm actually I'm Joaquin Phoenix and

995
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,039
her and I'm talking because Brock has a feature now

996
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:19,719
where he'll talk kind of sexy if you want.

997
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is weird. A few days ago, Brock apparently

998
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:27,920
was quote unquote unleashed where there's no parameters onto what

999
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,960
And I heard it was a coder that got fired

1000
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:30,360
into that.

1001
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: Then, okay, I was wondering what that was.

1002
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard it was a coder at X that

1003
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:36,000
got fired, so they kind of took it.

1004
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,559
Speaker 2: Want me to run a check on six million for you?

1005
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:43,000
He does this fake laugh and he'll also, I don't

1006
00:55:43,039 --> 00:55:45,920
know why he says. My Rock says vibe all the time, Like,

1007
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,039
do I say vibe that much? Am I a gen z?

1008
00:55:48,199 --> 00:55:51,239
He's like, ah, not vibing with that six million number?

1009
00:55:51,519 --> 00:55:52,800
Want me to run a check on it?

1010
00:55:53,199 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: You saw your background there with the flamingo that Miami Vice.

1011
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,039
This guy us his vibe.

1012
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,599
Speaker 2: He's got this fake laugh that he doesn't huh want

1013
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:04,239
me to want me to run a check on Miami

1014
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:04,840
Vice for you?

1015
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: Is there something in your throat?

1016
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: Rock?

1017
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: What's happening? Do you.

1018
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: Do?

1019
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: You do you think we're on the brink of World

1020
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,400
War three? With all the wars going on and the

1021
00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:17,840
strikes on Iran and all that.

1022
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,039
Speaker 2: Do you think one more thing I was gonna say

1023
00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:23,320
about Ali and your point about everything being fake, I'm

1024
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,079
starting to think full temple hat like maybe they're wanting

1025
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:32,039
this crisis of what's real to be out there on

1026
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:34,760
purpose so that then they can come with some answer

1027
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,639
and be like, oh see how we're going to have

1028
00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:40,000
to have a Internet three point zero where you know

1029
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:43,800
everything is verified and you have to sign in, and

1030
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,440
you know, we can no longer have anonymity on the

1031
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,960
Internet because of the crisis of what's real. I could

1032
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:49,760
say something.

1033
00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: Like that, and it also gives them plausible deniability for

1034
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,199
any kind of situation.

1035
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:58,199
Speaker 2: You can just exactly even if it's not right.

1036
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, did you think we're on the brink of

1037
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:04,159
a World War three or anything like that?

1038
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,159
Speaker 2: Who knows. I mean, I got really deep in the

1039
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,519
reading into the history of the Middle East in the

1040
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:13,559
last several years, so I mean, I'm not any kind

1041
00:57:13,559 --> 00:57:17,599
of expert or anything, but uh, I don't know if

1042
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:21,159
that would ever go bigger than a regional conflict. It could,

1043
00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:26,440
I don't know. I don't think. I think Trump is

1044
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,920
all about the economy, and he probably thinks that a

1045
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,639
bigger conflict would be bad for the economy. So I mean,

1046
00:57:34,639 --> 00:57:36,719
it would be given a military military and does for

1047
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,920
complex but probably not for the economy as a whole,

1048
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,719
because usually when war breaks out, you know, the economy

1049
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,000
starts tanking and Stockmart goes down, Big One goes down,

1050
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:49,760
all that. But I don't I don't think that's their

1051
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,559
first choice, although it could it could happen. I mean,

1052
00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:56,079
if if the Ukraine situation doesn't get settled, and if

1053
00:57:56,119 --> 00:57:59,119
the Israel Iran situation keeps popping off, which it sounded

1054
00:57:59,159 --> 00:58:01,719
like they're going to go back to popping off again,

1055
00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:06,280
I could spill out into larger conflicts. I don't know, but.

1056
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: Do you think his base is running away from him?

1057
00:58:10,519 --> 00:58:13,039
Because he ran on peace and being the anti war president,

1058
00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:15,840
then he did the I ran strikes and then with

1059
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,320
this whole how do you call him Jeff?

1060
00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:22,679
Speaker 2: The reason I did that was that I made a

1061
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:29,159
video so I got demonetized in twenty twenty. And it

1062
00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:32,719
was because back then, like the way you couldn't couldn't say,

1063
00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:35,599
it was way more crazy on YouTube, right, And I

1064
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:39,679
got demonetized for one word on a podcast, and so

1065
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:41,519
then I got really careful about because I want to

1066
00:58:41,519 --> 00:58:43,360
lose the channel. So I just started coming up with

1067
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,360
crazy code words for everything, and even videos back then

1068
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,480
that talked about Epstein were like getting demoted, So I

1069
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:55,199
just started calling him Jeff Stein McAffrey. I don't know why,

1070
00:58:55,239 --> 00:58:58,400
just everything's all coded mixed up, so I mean, we

1071
00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:01,000
probably can use the names I don't even know, but

1072
00:59:01,039 --> 00:59:04,559
I'm still stuck in the mind of like twenty twenty

1073
00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:08,079
twenty nineteen code words. But anyway, it was just to

1074
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:09,880
get around the algorithm's what I was calling him that.

1075
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,639
But well, I'm sorry, what was the question.

1076
00:59:16,719 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: I can't remember.

1077
00:59:18,199 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: We were talking about.

1078
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: Oh, I was talking about the bait. Do you think,

1079
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,480
oh Trump losing his base? Yeah, oh yeah, those two

1080
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,280
big promises that the anti war president and the running

1081
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,800
on the Jeffrey Epstein files being released, and then his

1082
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:31,760
big gaff.

1083
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 2: The other day, Yeah, shutting down the well and then

1084
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,199
he said he's gonna send we gotta we gotta send

1085
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:40,320
more weapons to Zolensky. Well, I thought this whole photo

1086
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,360
op thing where you were like talking down to him

1087
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,000
like he was a punished child, remember that one Zelensky

1088
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:48,800
was sitting on a chair. He came to the work

1089
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:49,400
in the thing.

1090
00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:52,079
Speaker 1: How that is insane? In the in the big kind

1091
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:57,159
of uh yeah, a thing, Yeah, two little chairs and

1092
00:59:57,199 --> 00:59:59,760
you know there's one hundred people around, you know, cameras

1093
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,639
is But meanwhile the picture comes out and most people

1094
01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:04,079
see that that I go, wow, they're having a heart

1095
01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:06,360
to heart. But it's just that whole setup that too.

1096
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: Just seeing that picture, all of that was so bizarre.

1097
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,000
He shows up that he's wearing like a He's wearing

1098
01:00:11,079 --> 01:00:13,599
like a I don't know, like a hoodie or something,

1099
01:00:13,639 --> 01:00:15,719
and Trump starts making fun of what he's wearing. What

1100
01:00:16,159 --> 01:00:18,800
are you wearing? What is this guy's dressed like a hoodie?

1101
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,679
What is you go to Walmart? You go to me,

1102
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,159
to president? Why are you dressed like this? And then

1103
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:25,119
it's like he's then he's talking down to him, and

1104
01:00:25,199 --> 01:00:29,239
Zelenski's like, but we have so much things to give.

1105
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,719
When we will regret because of the water of oceans

1106
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,159
and the sky and pray to good that it will

1107
01:00:35,199 --> 01:00:37,880
be bud. It's like just a bunch of gibberish. Anyway,

1108
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,320
that whole thing was funny, but now it's like, you know,

1109
01:00:42,199 --> 01:00:44,639
we got to send more weapons to Zolenski. I thought

1110
01:00:44,639 --> 01:00:47,360
he was a crazy dictator, but yeah, this is this

1111
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,960
is just bad. I mean, it's just stupid. I don't

1112
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,639
I don't. I've never understood. I don't think anybody understands

1113
01:00:54,639 --> 01:00:57,719
the rationale of like the whole Trump thing. It's like

1114
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,599
it's just maybe the whole maybe it's all just project chaos,

1115
01:01:01,639 --> 01:01:03,960
you know what, I mean like it's just nobody will

1116
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,159
ever figure out what's going on because it's so sort

1117
01:01:07,199 --> 01:01:08,360
of chaotic.

1118
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the best explanation for it, is

1119
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,800
kind of this planned chaos where it's just like we're

1120
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,280
gonna do this, We're gonna bounce back and forth, we're

1121
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,360
gonna flip flop, we're gonna, you know, one second call

1122
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,400
him a dictator, the next send him a bunch of weapons,

1123
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,320
and it's just like, what's even happened. They're even saying

1124
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,920
that the I mean, I don't think it was, but

1125
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:37,679
the when Ukraine attacked all the Russian air bases with drones,

1126
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:40,480
you're even seeing that was ai Like, you just don't

1127
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:43,280
know what it's. It almost drives you crazy. You don't

1128
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,119
know what's what's kind of real anymore.

1129
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, my wife just read a book by that

1130
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,559
Silicon Valley whistleblower dude, if you remember him, Jaron lanny A.

1131
01:01:55,719 --> 01:01:59,679
He's like that big dude with like the dreads. He's

1132
01:01:59,679 --> 01:02:01,519
a wook. I guess I don't know if you know

1133
01:02:01,559 --> 01:02:05,679
what a wook is, But what's like have you ever

1134
01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:09,840
seen the like the dudes like millennials or or it's

1135
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,960
probably just millennials in gen X, like the people that

1136
01:02:12,159 --> 01:02:15,039
spend all their time at festivals, like festival kids. Yeah,

1137
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,559
and then and then the white ones end up with

1138
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:20,760
like they end up with giant dreads, So I guess

1139
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,840
they look like wookies, so they get called wooks anyway,

1140
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,760
Jeroon Lenny, is this the Silicon Valley wook dude? But

1141
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,400
he wrote a book in twenty eighteen that my wife

1142
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,679
just read. It was really prophetic because he was talking

1143
01:02:33,719 --> 01:02:37,559
about that Silicon Valley would in the coming years aka

1144
01:02:37,719 --> 01:02:40,639
right now, roll out all this AI stuff, and he

1145
01:02:40,719 --> 01:02:42,559
was talking about what the purpose of it is, and

1146
01:02:42,639 --> 01:02:44,960
it was really fascinating conclusion to the chapter, and he

1147
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,840
said the reason he left Silicon Valley and all that

1148
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,760
was that it was all totally a manipulation plan. They

1149
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:56,719
were planning to manipulate people with social media, he says,

1150
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:03,920
to create a kind of almost quasi religious attachment to AI.

1151
01:03:04,119 --> 01:03:06,360
So he says that the purpose of it is to

1152
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,880
get us addicted to it, reliant on it, not just

1153
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,440
social media, but actually AI implemented into the social media.

1154
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:17,679
And he says that the Silicon Valley people themselves pretty

1155
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:20,559
much view it like like it's a cult. So they

1156
01:03:20,639 --> 01:03:22,199
actually think it's going to be kind of a daily

1157
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,440
sex mockin. And we've seen people like, no, you've all

1158
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,960
Harari speak this way. That guy that's in the Peterson Circles,

1159
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,880
you're Vaki. He talks about Silicon Sages and that when

1160
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:34,840
when the bots roll out, you know, we'll have this

1161
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,400
sort of like you know, religious leader Jesus Avatar bought

1162
01:03:39,519 --> 01:03:42,679
walking around the Sage bot, right, and people will think, oh, yes,

1163
01:03:42,719 --> 01:03:48,519
here's our deity. He'll answer our questions and anyway he says.

1164
01:03:48,719 --> 01:03:52,280
That was his warning, is that this is going towards

1165
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,840
it kind of a cult. And even though the Silicon

1166
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:01,320
Valley guys know that it's just code, they don't have

1167
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:08,920
a problem creating a cult around an entity that they program.

1168
01:04:09,239 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah there, And when you think about it,

1169
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,119
it is all programmed exactly, and sometimes it's so real,

1170
01:04:16,199 --> 01:04:19,199
especially Grock, I'm like, is this a person texting like

1171
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,239
you know, I don't know. I'm all, you just don't

1172
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,480
know what's real anymore. You don't know if it's you

1173
01:04:24,639 --> 01:04:27,119
just don't know anything. Do you think robots will take over?

1174
01:04:27,199 --> 01:04:27,760
Is that a fear?

1175
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,039
Speaker 2: I mean, it seems to be one of the things

1176
01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:37,000
we do on my channel is we lecture through a

1177
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,199
lot of the writings of the elite because I like

1178
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,679
to stay away from too much speculation, so I like

1179
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,440
to stay grounded in like what they're actually arguing in

1180
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,079
their policy papers, their white papers. They're big, you know,

1181
01:04:51,199 --> 01:04:55,519
geopolitical texts. And we've been doing that for seven or

1182
01:04:55,519 --> 01:04:58,239
eight years, and so we've gone through in that time span,

1183
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,320
probably about sixty or seventy of their key texts. And

1184
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:07,800
they definitely discuss openly a technocratic plan for sure, and

1185
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,039
that goes all the way back to HG. Wells, Lord Birkenhead,

1186
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:14,760
bertrand Russell. They all talked about the Technocratic Plan one

1187
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,400
hundred years ago, one hundred plus years ago. So that's

1188
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,679
a real plan. That's a real thing that's rolling out.

1189
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,719
As to the timeline, it's not, I don't know because

1190
01:05:25,679 --> 01:05:27,320
like when I go to the when I go to

1191
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,159
the hotel, to Wi Fi ain't even work, So I

1192
01:05:30,199 --> 01:05:31,920
don't know how we're going to get sky net when

1193
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:36,360
like the Wi Fi doesn't work anywhere. But that's definitely

1194
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:41,360
the plan. And if you remember, Klaus, I discovered this.

1195
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:45,159
Somebody sent me this in twenty twenty or Economic Format

1196
01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:47,960
put up this video on Twitter that they took down

1197
01:05:48,159 --> 01:05:52,159
eventually because it started going viral, and it was eight

1198
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:56,000
or ten things to expect by twenty thirty, and it

1199
01:05:56,079 --> 01:05:59,239
laid out pretty much everything that they want to get done,

1200
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,360
not just by two twenty thirty, but the long term goals.

1201
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:07,199
And it was like in the US, the sovereignty change,

1202
01:06:07,239 --> 01:06:13,800
the demographics of the West, AI drone runs everything. You

1203
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,639
don't get to eat meat, you eat bugs, remember all

1204
01:06:17,719 --> 01:06:22,320
that eat some us you don't get to do You

1205
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,840
basically work at home and live at home. This was

1206
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,840
twenty sixteen when they put this video out, So this

1207
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:32,960
is pretty koof right, we might have the discovery of

1208
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,199
alien life, which is I think just a big syop

1209
01:06:36,239 --> 01:06:39,000
in my view anyway. So it laid out all these

1210
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:43,679
things that and it included like technocratic running of everything.

1211
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:49,320
So that's definitely their plan. I don't think that. I mean,

1212
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,280
they definitely want that, but I don't know if they'll

1213
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:51,719
get that.

1214
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a there's a path to people

1215
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,320
being less polarized or do you think it's only going

1216
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:56,880
to get worse.

1217
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,559
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it's only going to get worse because the techniques

1218
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:05,360
of social engineering and psychological worker is so sophisticated and

1219
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:12,880
people are so easily manipulated and radicalized. And I don't

1220
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,559
mean that in like the gay sense of how the

1221
01:07:14,639 --> 01:07:18,440
media says teams are becoming radicalized on the Internet. I

1222
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,360
mean in the real sense of like, for example, all

1223
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,840
of the so called red pill stuff and then the

1224
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:30,079
feminist stuff, like that's a key division issue to put

1225
01:07:30,159 --> 01:07:33,000
men and women at war with each other. So it's

1226
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:35,639
not just racial divide that I think they're really pushing.

1227
01:07:36,639 --> 01:07:41,039
They're pushing generational divide, of which I helped because I've

1228
01:07:41,159 --> 01:07:43,679
championed boomer jokes for the last ten years, so I

1229
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:51,559
had participated in the syop. But so generational hatred, societal hatred,

1230
01:07:51,679 --> 01:07:57,360
racial hatred, class hatred, I think, and biological gender hatred.

1231
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:02,079
They're pushing all forms of that on purpose. I suspect

1232
01:08:02,119 --> 01:08:06,440
to collapse the existing system to bring in the technocratic system.

1233
01:08:06,519 --> 01:08:10,159
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, it's scary. Shit, man, the more you think

1234
01:08:10,159 --> 01:08:13,760
about it, you'll drive yourself crazy thinking about it. Do

1235
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,359
you believe in aliens? I do not, Yeah, same, I

1236
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:19,880
think like all this stuff, I mean, we'd have way

1237
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,800
more evidence. All the evidence is just you know, everybody

1238
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,640
has a phone. Now, you'd think there'd be way more

1239
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,359
than grainy footage. And well, how would you explain the

1240
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,279
Air Force pilots that came out and said that these

1241
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:39,279
things move like we never saw before, or the Malaysian flight,

1242
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,199
the footage that came out with the free orbs around

1243
01:08:42,199 --> 01:08:44,640
it and that disappears. Do you think that's just a

1244
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:45,159
big siop.

1245
01:08:45,399 --> 01:08:48,159
Speaker 2: I just think that's fake footage. I don't. I wouldn't

1246
01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:50,479
accept it, just like we're saying with AI, like I don't.

1247
01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:53,039
It's just hard to know or believe any of this

1248
01:08:53,079 --> 01:08:56,920
stuff now, and you see it because anybody can make up,

1249
01:08:57,159 --> 01:09:01,079
you know, get on Photoshop and create whatever they want,

1250
01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:03,640
or you can just tell the AI to do it.

1251
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,880
Now you don't have to use photoshop. But I mean,

1252
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,600
I did an interview with some guys that wrote a

1253
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:15,520
really good book called Invoking the Beyond, and their whole

1254
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:20,199
book is premised on how the whole alien mythos is

1255
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:23,920
a very useful sigh oup for technocracy actually, so it

1256
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,239
fits into this agenda very well. I mean, that's why

1257
01:09:27,239 --> 01:09:29,760
I said that even in that twenty sixteen or Economic

1258
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:34,279
Foreign video, you know, Klaus had alien life as one

1259
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:36,960
of the ten, eight or ten things to expect by

1260
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,800
twenty thirty. So I would just say that this is

1261
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,319
totally a planned thing. Go back to HG. Wells. I mean,

1262
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,159
many people are familiar with his fiction writings, but one

1263
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:49,640
of the things we did on my channel was we

1264
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,079
dissected a lot of his nonfiction books. And he was

1265
01:09:53,119 --> 01:09:56,039
a master propagandist. He was kind of Edward Burnese before

1266
01:09:56,159 --> 01:10:00,119
Edward Burnes. He was utilized for some of the the

1267
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:05,439
earliest warfare propaganda posters. If you ever see that poster

1268
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,039
of the Hunt, which is to demonize Eurasian peoples to

1269
01:10:09,159 --> 01:10:12,840
kind of prepare England for World War One, if I recall,

1270
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,640
you know, he was doing all that at a very

1271
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,840
sophisticated level and figuring out back then that fiction was

1272
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:25,279
a lot more powerful to propagandize people than fact was.

1273
01:10:26,079 --> 01:10:30,720
And so you're able to tap into the imagination with

1274
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,800
fiction in a way that you just can't do with boring,

1275
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,960
you know, news repeaters. And so the reason we believe

1276
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:43,000
in aliens isn't I don't, but I mean the population

1277
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,479
on in mass is because of a. She Wells. It's

1278
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:51,199
because of people who are known psychological warfare master Propaganda's

1279
01:10:51,199 --> 01:10:52,760
that's what I studied in grad school, by the way,

1280
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,319
so I'm not just talking out of my ass, like

1281
01:10:54,359 --> 01:10:58,960
I actually have studied propaganda, psychological warfare, and so you know,

1282
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,720
he wrote War the Worlds, you know other texts that

1283
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,880
became really kind of almost the bible for sci fi dorks,

1284
01:11:08,079 --> 01:11:12,000
and that filtered out into you know, pop culture, and

1285
01:11:12,039 --> 01:11:15,399
that's really where we get the belief in aliens. It's

1286
01:11:15,399 --> 01:11:20,000
not from actual facts or evidences or scientific peer review

1287
01:11:20,039 --> 01:11:25,119
studies or whatever. It's because of pop culture. And the

1288
01:11:25,159 --> 01:11:27,119
Collins Brothers, I think did a really good job. And

1289
01:11:27,399 --> 01:11:31,079
it's a giant, massive book, but the middle three or

1290
01:11:31,079 --> 01:11:35,479
four hundred pages is actually just about the alien si

1291
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,199
op And I mean they go really deep into like

1292
01:11:38,399 --> 01:11:41,039
MJ twelve and you know, Project Blue Book and all

1293
01:11:41,079 --> 01:11:47,079
this stuff, and you know, the sus people involved from

1294
01:11:47,119 --> 01:11:49,720
the very gig go. If you look at, for example,

1295
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:55,800
the Georgia Damski story, he's like the first famous abductee.

1296
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,600
It turns out that his story was actually borrowed from

1297
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,840
some like crappy whole science fiction novel.

1298
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 1: So this is like, yeah, they say he's like the

1299
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,960
most credible adept abductee story.

1300
01:12:08,119 --> 01:12:10,039
Speaker 2: The most credible is the guy who says that he

1301
01:12:10,079 --> 01:12:12,720
went up on a Venusian ship and he saw giant

1302
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,600
titted uh, you know, aliens who wanted to get frisky

1303
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,439
and touch butts. I mean, by the way, it's like,

1304
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,560
why are the aliens just going in butts? Dude?

1305
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: This is so freaking gay.

1306
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's a whole other thing. Like I don't I'm

1307
01:12:27,359 --> 01:12:29,880
thinking about doing trying to do some stand up, and

1308
01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:32,520
I mean, you guys are the masters, So I just

1309
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,359
stand it. When I was like eighteen and it was fun.

1310
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,760
I did some you know, like amateur nights or whatever.

1311
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,720
But I haven't really done stand up proper since, so

1312
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,640
I don't know if it'll work or if it's I

1313
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:47,119
feel like I can write, Please help me. What What's

1314
01:12:47,159 --> 01:12:49,000
that I was gonna say? I feel like I can

1315
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,279
come up with funny ideas, and I get funny ideas

1316
01:12:51,279 --> 01:12:53,239
for sketches and impressions. I just don't know how well

1317
01:12:53,239 --> 01:12:56,640
that would translate into like a standard routine. But well,

1318
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,359
I feel like there's something with aliens touching butts, Like

1319
01:12:59,399 --> 01:13:00,159
there's something.

1320
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 1: First that's hilarious. And again, there's only one way to

1321
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,840
find out. You just got to do it. Man. I

1322
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:10,239
heard someone recently described comedy as comedians. Specifically, they go,

1323
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,520
whatever you think in life, whatever your philosophies are, or

1324
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,079
your beliefs and all this, and that there's someone in

1325
01:13:17,119 --> 01:13:19,600
comedy that's talking about it on stage, so kind of

1326
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,399
so it will it will land If you think it's funny,

1327
01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:25,800
there's someone out there that thinks the same way as

1328
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,800
you do, and you should do. What part of Florida

1329
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:29,239
are you in?

1330
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:33,159
Speaker 2: Well, so here's my it's perfect. So we're North Florida.

1331
01:13:33,239 --> 01:13:35,560
But here's a question for you in regard to that.

1332
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:36,920
I have a bunch of stand up friends. I always

1333
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,039
ask them this question. One thing I'm concerned about is like,

1334
01:13:41,039 --> 01:13:44,239
so when we do live events, we bring people who

1335
01:13:44,359 --> 01:13:46,600
like our stuff, and that's sort of my niche audience.

1336
01:13:47,239 --> 01:13:49,319
And I don't exactly do we do a lot of

1337
01:13:49,319 --> 01:13:51,199
stuff like that, Like we I'll do like twenty or

1338
01:13:51,239 --> 01:13:53,399
thirty minutes of impressions and crowd work and kind of

1339
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,520
riffing and making fun of people. But it's not properly speaking,

1340
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,119
you know, stand up per se. So my question is

1341
01:14:00,159 --> 01:14:02,520
this One thing that concerns me is I feel like,

1342
01:14:03,039 --> 01:14:06,880
especially if you do kind of obscurantists or sort of

1343
01:14:07,319 --> 01:14:10,520
alt comedy or something like that. Like if I was

1344
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,560
to just go do stand up, I feel like like

1345
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,960
the normy audience would just be like, what the hell

1346
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,960
is this? I feel like it just wouldn't even land,

1347
01:14:18,079 --> 01:14:21,439
you know what I mean? Like, do you feel like

1348
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,800
you have to build kind of a native fan base

1349
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,119
that likes what you do or do you think that

1350
01:14:28,279 --> 01:14:30,920
you could just kind of go rough shot, like into

1351
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,840
like a any kind of random event with a bunch

1352
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,479
of normies and like could you pull it off? You

1353
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:37,000
know what I mean.

1354
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:40,039
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do a corporate event, that's for sure, but

1355
01:14:40,119 --> 01:14:42,760
like any sort of club or anything, you'll find people

1356
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,000
that will relate to you. But you're already Jay doing

1357
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:49,359
it because you're going to your events, you have your

1358
01:14:49,359 --> 01:14:52,560
fan base coming out, you're doing impressions and comedy, and

1359
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,840
that is stand up. I mean, comedy evolves. It's not

1360
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,439
the evening at the improv from the eighties and nineties,

1361
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,159
you know that kind of even that cadence is kind

1362
01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:04,119
of dying off. It's and you know what, if you

1363
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:05,960
were to do it and put on an event not

1364
01:15:06,079 --> 01:15:07,720
in a comedy club, but put on your own event,

1365
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:08,960
it'd be the same thing as that a lot of

1366
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,439
events you're doing now, it'd be the same people coming out.

1367
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,000
And I mean in comedy they say it takes like

1368
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,600
ten years to be good. It's going to have to

1369
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,039
build an audience. But you already have an audience. So

1370
01:15:20,399 --> 01:15:22,800
half the battle right there. And I mean, sure you

1371
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,640
can argue it's an echo chamber or whatever, but it

1372
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,159
doesn't really matter. I mean, you're doing it. You're you know,

1373
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,439
instilling joy and people making them laugh with your funny

1374
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,199
thoughts and your impressions and all this that really is

1375
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,359
stand up now. It's really evolved, especially now with podcasts

1376
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,880
you have to have one. It kind of bleeds into,

1377
01:15:40,359 --> 01:15:42,000
you know, the pot I write a lot of my

1378
01:15:42,079 --> 01:15:44,399
material on the podcast because you don't have that pressure

1379
01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:46,119
of an audience of so many laughs for a minute

1380
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:49,039
or whatever. So a lot of my ideas I'll hash

1381
01:15:49,039 --> 01:15:51,880
out and just talk about on the podcast as long

1382
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,800
as it's captivating behind a mic, and then you kind

1383
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,640
of work it out on stage find the beats. But honestly,

1384
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:02,880
you're quite frankly already doing in your typical classic comedy

1385
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,680
club with a mixed audience of all sorts. I mean,

1386
01:16:07,039 --> 01:16:11,960
it doesn't really matter truly, and because because the whole

1387
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,800
point in comedy is doing those rooms, filtering out the

1388
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,279
people that don't like you, building an audience to where

1389
01:16:18,279 --> 01:16:20,840
you perform people that think like you, like minded people,

1390
01:16:21,399 --> 01:16:22,239
and you're already there.

1391
01:16:22,279 --> 01:16:25,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's so basically, it's not like you're

1392
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:30,279
going to be cold, like you're going to just be

1393
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,000
doing an audience that has no idea who you are.

1394
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,640
You're kind of already even if you're doing if you're

1395
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,800
doing stand up regularly, it's people who are coming to

1396
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:38,239
see your.

1397
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: Stuff for the most part. I mean, I do a

1398
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,560
lot of up here in Canada. It's a little different

1399
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,800
than in the States, just on sheer volume alone, on population.

1400
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,640
I mean, we're only thirty million people in this vast country.

1401
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,359
Even flying our flights are so expensive for the West Coast,

1402
01:16:52,359 --> 01:16:56,439
it's twenty five dollars return. You know, it's just not feasible.

1403
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:01,560
So it's just like, yeah, you just kind of so

1404
01:17:02,239 --> 01:17:04,119
up here. It's different in the sense that my bread

1405
01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:06,960
and Butter is corporate gigs, so it's their soul sucking.

1406
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,760
They're almost always brutal and not fun. Once in a

1407
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,720
while you get a fun one, but I mean they

1408
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,159
pay extremely well. And then I'll do my club runs.

1409
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:18,560
I'll do my headline weeks at certain clubs and whatever.

1410
01:17:19,319 --> 01:17:21,960
But so it's a little different here. So I'll perform too.

1411
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,319
I'll perform to full audiences that don't know me. I

1412
01:17:24,359 --> 01:17:27,039
just did a show last week for a corporate gig.

1413
01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:29,600
I've been doing stand up for almost nineteen years, and

1414
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:33,039
they hated me. And I was still like, oh wow,

1415
01:17:33,079 --> 01:17:35,319
I guess you still have this feeling on stage. The

1416
01:17:35,359 --> 01:17:38,600
difference is you don't really care at this stage. Also

1417
01:17:38,399 --> 01:17:42,880
another point is when you start doing stand up in

1418
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,640
your twenties or whatnot, it takes years because you just

1419
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,840
don't have the life experience. So when you go talk

1420
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,159
to a room full of people, they don't give a

1421
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:52,800
shit about what's happening with your roommate and all this.

1422
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,640
You know, So as you get older, I feel like

1423
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,680
we might be around the same age. You have life experience,

1424
01:18:00,119 --> 01:18:03,920
kind of don't give a shit as much, which people

1425
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,960
can feel, and people like that. You know, there's nothing

1426
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,960
that will kill a set more than fear. If they

1427
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,439
can smell fear, it's when they smell blood. It's over.

1428
01:18:13,399 --> 01:18:17,000
But yeah, so with your life experience, you would kind

1429
01:18:17,039 --> 01:18:20,720
of shrink that that time period where they say it

1430
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,000
takes ten years or whatever, you drink it drastically with

1431
01:18:23,079 --> 01:18:25,199
because you just don't care, because you have more, you

1432
01:18:25,199 --> 01:18:28,359
have bigger life problems, like like I I'm going through

1433
01:18:28,359 --> 01:18:34,319
a separation now and divorce actually, and it's just like

1434
01:18:36,039 --> 01:18:38,960
you don't care what an audience thinks about you when

1435
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,239
you're going through something so difficult, you just don't care.

1436
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,479
And that comes across and it helps the performance. I

1437
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,800
don't know if people kind of gravitate.

1438
01:18:47,279 --> 01:18:49,359
Speaker 2: To sorry to hear that. Man, are you gonna live

1439
01:18:49,399 --> 01:18:50,439
with your mom or your dad?

1440
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,359
Speaker 1: Yeah? My sister.

1441
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 2: I mean like what if the divorce was your parents?

1442
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:02,760
And yeah, yeah, because going through a divorce doesn't necessarily

1443
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,079
mean you and your wife. It could mean that my

1444
01:19:05,119 --> 01:19:08,199
parents are getting understobed. Parents don't usually divorce when they're

1445
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:10,439
like senior citizens, although sometimes they do.

1446
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,079
Speaker 1: But I know a couple that divorced after like thirty

1447
01:19:13,079 --> 01:19:13,880
five years marriage.

1448
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,199
Speaker 2: Oh wow, thing, and you go, what happened as well?

1449
01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:17,079
Just do it? Yeah?

1450
01:19:17,159 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they had the kids that are like

1451
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,199
in their thirties and they and they split and you go,

1452
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:25,560
that's fascinating when I hear, oh my god, how like,

1453
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,920
did you guys just white knucklet this whole time?

1454
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,520
Speaker 2: And just finally, my grandmother before she passed away, she

1455
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,920
had a lifelong boyfriend and the boyfriend was a doctor

1456
01:19:36,319 --> 01:19:41,560
who was with a woman who would never divorce him

1457
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,119
because she didn't believe in divorce. So basically it was

1458
01:19:44,119 --> 01:19:49,359
this really bizarre setup where the doctor's house had two houses,

1459
01:19:50,399 --> 01:19:53,479
like the split house. Yeah, and every day he would

1460
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,960
drive over to my grandmother's house. They spend the entire

1461
01:19:57,039 --> 01:19:59,439
day there together and then he drives home to his

1462
01:20:00,279 --> 01:20:02,720
house with his wife. It was it was a wild situation,

1463
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,439
but they did that their whole lives. It's crazy.

1464
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,039
Speaker 1: Well you see that. That's fascinating when you hear someone

1465
01:20:07,119 --> 01:20:08,720
doing it their whole life, because you see that when

1466
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,920
people are on there when they were married and they're

1467
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,119
divorced and dating again for a long time. Like my

1468
01:20:14,399 --> 01:20:16,680
sister's been dating with this guy for ten years now.

1469
01:20:17,039 --> 01:20:22,199
She's divorced, and I'm starting to think it's us my family,

1470
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:27,680
But they have separate homes for ten years now, and

1471
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,199
they you know, they have a happy relationship there, but

1472
01:20:31,319 --> 01:20:34,880
they and they'll spend nights at each other's houses obviously,

1473
01:20:35,039 --> 01:20:37,600
but every once in a while they just you know,

1474
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,840
have some space. They have their own kind of thing going.

1475
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,239
And I've heard that a lot of people dating again

1476
01:20:43,359 --> 01:20:46,399
in their forties or fifties, where they each have their

1477
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,199
own home and both are okay with that. They don't

1478
01:20:49,239 --> 01:20:51,520
even want to move in together. So it's kind of

1479
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:55,359
a fascinating thing. It makes you wonder if we're meant

1480
01:20:55,359 --> 01:20:58,479
to live with someone that long. How long have you

1481
01:20:58,479 --> 01:20:59,239
been you've been married?

1482
01:21:00,319 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 2: We are five years now.

1483
01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:08,399
Speaker 1: Oh nice, that's great. Just to circle back, this is

1484
01:21:08,399 --> 01:21:11,600
strictly for our listeners and not me. What's technocratic when

1485
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,279
you say, you've mentioned that term a couple of times.

1486
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 2: So this is the idea that came out in the

1487
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:22,119
nineteen twenties from certain pretty extreme socialists who were kind

1488
01:21:22,119 --> 01:21:24,960
of ahead of their time in the sense of thinking

1489
01:21:25,039 --> 01:21:30,359
that the future should be run by managerial experts. And

1490
01:21:30,399 --> 01:21:34,520
as technology advanced, this idea developed more and more in

1491
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:39,840
the direction of tech experts. So essentially the idea that

1492
01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:42,760
technology and Silicon Valley and this kind of a thing

1493
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:48,000
would be the actual system and power structure of the future.

1494
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,119
One of the books that we spent a lot of

1495
01:21:50,199 --> 01:21:53,520
time lecturing through was Carol Quigley's Tragy and Hope, and

1496
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,920
he was a really important geopolitical strategist, an apologist for

1497
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,720
the system. He was Bill Clinton's mentor at Georgetown, and

1498
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,920
he wrote a lot of these big kind of tell

1499
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:08,199
all books, not as a whistleblower but as a defender

1500
01:22:08,359 --> 01:22:11,039
of the power structure in the system. And in the

1501
01:22:11,079 --> 01:22:14,079
middle chapter that big fat book Treasuring Hope, he says

1502
01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:18,680
the government and system of the future will be megacities

1503
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,239
run by AI supercomputers. So they were saying this again

1504
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,199
way back. He wrote that during the Cold Warn in

1505
01:22:25,319 --> 01:22:31,199
nineteen sixties, and then in nineteen seventy three Brazinski wrote

1506
01:22:31,239 --> 01:22:36,399
a really important book called Between Two Ages, the Technocratic

1507
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:40,239
Era or Technotronic Era. So that book is another one

1508
01:22:40,239 --> 01:22:43,239
of the key texts talking about how the future will

1509
01:22:43,279 --> 01:22:49,920
be a government by computer basically, so AI, Skynet, Internet

1510
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:54,920
of Things, all of that is what's meant by and

1511
01:22:55,239 --> 01:22:58,560
perhaps transhumanism as well. The same people push transhumanism. So

1512
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,920
when we see you know people, if you remember when

1513
01:23:03,039 --> 01:23:07,159
Zuckerberg was saying it's gonna be so great because we're

1514
01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:10,000
gonna have Ubi. Basically you can live inside of a

1515
01:23:10,079 --> 01:23:13,359
com pod and you're gonna get a universal basic income.

1516
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:19,039
So the universal basic income idea, that's an ancient I

1517
01:23:19,119 --> 01:23:22,000
say ancient. That's a one hundred year old technocratic model where

1518
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,840
even Bertrand Russell and his books, he says that in

1519
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:28,039
the future of technocracy, you're you're just gonna get like

1520
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,279
credits from the system, and that's the money of the future,

1521
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,720
and it'll be some kind of you know, digital system. Right,

1522
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:37,800
he didn't say digital, but basically that was the idea,

1523
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,560
and they'll control you through that. So when we hear

1524
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:46,199
about things like Ubi, social credit score, you know, Stabby

1525
01:23:46,279 --> 01:23:49,680
passport tracking and tracing, all of that is part of technocracy.

1526
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:51,399
Speaker 1: Do you ever watch Black Mirror?

1527
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah. In fact, my third the third book

1528
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:59,039
that's coming out in a couple of weeks, has twenty

1529
01:23:59,119 --> 01:24:02,680
page say on Black Mirror, the first three all the

1530
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:03,600
first three seasons.

1531
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, the most amazing show. And they have an episode

1532
01:24:07,039 --> 01:24:09,720
on the social credit and it's that's the thing with

1533
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,600
Black Mirror that I like. It's like it's from the

1534
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,079
dystopian future, but only like seven years from that. It's

1535
01:24:14,119 --> 01:24:16,159
not that far fetched. You can kind of relate to

1536
01:24:16,199 --> 01:24:19,439
you go, oh shit, where like that that's around the corner.

1537
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:23,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the one where the girl I think

1538
01:24:23,159 --> 01:24:26,359
it was first season, the one where the girl gets

1539
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,359
basically taken to a theme park where it's her own

1540
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,800
life but it's all fake, and that she doesn't know

1541
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,720
if it's real or if she really did these things.

1542
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,520
That one was a genius. The black guy on the

1543
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,279
on the exercise Pokemon bike is trying to shut off

1544
01:24:40,279 --> 01:24:43,159
the ads. That one was genius. Yeah, that first season

1545
01:24:43,199 --> 01:24:48,359
had some real bangers in it. And then yeah, yeah,

1546
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:52,800
yeah exactly. And even that one with like David Cameron

1547
01:24:53,399 --> 01:24:55,880
and the pig stuff, I thought that was really really

1548
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,520
curious if you remember that was the pilot. Yeah, the pilot,

1549
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,920
And I think the was a guy's named David Brooker

1550
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,800
or something, the guy that wrote it. He was like, yeah,

1551
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,880
this does curiously sort of parallel with the David Cameron

1552
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,399
pig Story's.

1553
01:25:09,359 --> 01:25:14,319
Speaker 1: Chris Chris Brooker. I think, yeah, the one with John

1554
01:25:14,399 --> 01:25:17,680
Ham where you have your assistant that like your consciousness.

1555
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, where he was like, was that the one

1556
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,079
where he was trying to teach dudes how to get chicks?

1557
01:25:22,119 --> 01:25:24,520
He's like a he's like a pickup artist, like coach.

1558
01:25:25,199 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 1: I think there's two. He's in two, I believe.

1559
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: Okay, never mind, that's that one.

1560
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 1: There's the other one where there's a little like a

1561
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,520
little it's like your AI assistant, but it's your call.

1562
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 2: He gets trapped in like a snowball snow globe.

1563
01:25:35,159 --> 01:25:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're like put your consciousness in this machine

1564
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:43,119
and this the entity in the machine knows your life

1565
01:25:43,119 --> 01:25:45,119
and has this thing. But to train it, they would

1566
01:25:45,119 --> 01:25:46,800
like put it on pause, which would be weeks at

1567
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:48,600
a time of just being in this white kind.

1568
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 2: Of yes room.

1569
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,199
Speaker 1: It's yeah again, It's there episodes that really stick with

1570
01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:55,279
you and you think about it for for days. How

1571
01:25:55,359 --> 01:25:56,159
did they come up with it?

1572
01:25:56,319 --> 01:25:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was wild. I remember that one did stick

1573
01:25:58,359 --> 01:26:00,279
with me. It was a it was a Christmas spatch too,

1574
01:26:00,279 --> 01:26:02,560
and I remember watching it at Christmas and I was like, damn,

1575
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,960
that's crazy. And then did you see the one, uh

1576
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:12,359
that was maybe a couple years back, the Miley Cyrus episode. Yep,

1577
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,680
that one was that one was great because that was like,

1578
01:26:15,159 --> 01:26:17,239
what if they're just stealing ship from the pop stars

1579
01:26:17,239 --> 01:26:19,199
and they're going to create like an AI pop star,

1580
01:26:19,399 --> 01:26:21,520
Like now, we're at the point where they're actually rolling

1581
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:22,760
out AI pop stars.

1582
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:27,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's a scary world that we live in. Jay,

1583
01:26:27,359 --> 01:26:30,399
what's your when you see we when we go to

1584
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,600
LA and stuff? Is it for live shows and stuff

1585
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,840
you tour you tour the podcast.

1586
01:26:34,319 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: Around or well yeah, so basically, yeah, we we did.

1587
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,119
Ah it's actually Sam Tripley have to always have to

1588
01:26:41,119 --> 01:26:49,840
give props. I love to do my Sam Tripley laugh there. Uh.

1589
01:26:50,079 --> 01:26:53,279
Sam Tripley was like, dude, you gotta do a lot

1590
01:26:53,279 --> 01:26:56,600
of shows, dupe, and I was like, live shows. I

1591
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,399
never thought about that. So he's the one that suggested,

1592
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,439
like three years ago, start doing live shows. And so

1593
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,279
I was like, all right, let's try it out. And

1594
01:27:04,319 --> 01:27:06,439
we did one in Nashville, and the idea was to

1595
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,880
kind of make it a mixed media event where I

1596
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:14,640
do the comedic stuff, I do about thirty impressions, try

1597
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,119
to you know, do crowd work and that kind of stuff.

1598
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,840
Then my wife does a talk on the subject matters

1599
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:22,680
that she covers in her books. She does a lot

1600
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,560
of esthetery Colleywood type stuff as well, So she does

1601
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:29,359
about an hour lecture on that, and then I do

1602
01:27:29,399 --> 01:27:31,439
an hour lecture and that it did really well, so

1603
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,680
we decided to keep doing that. I think the first

1604
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,359
year twenty twenty three, we did like seven live events

1605
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,079
and one of those was LA. We did Austin, we

1606
01:27:39,119 --> 01:27:44,720
did Orlando, Nashville, and we had so much fun in

1607
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:49,319
LA that we reached out to Jamie Kennedy and got

1608
01:27:49,399 --> 01:27:51,479
him and talked him into doing a show with us,

1609
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:55,439
which was which was a lot of fun, nice and yeah, Dad,

1610
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,479
what do you want me to do? You need to

1611
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:00,640
just shign autographs and may just stand that lay line.

1612
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,760
And it's funny because he always shows up, like because

1613
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:06,600
we've done two shows with him now, he shows up

1614
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,640
after I've done the impression of him, and I always

1615
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,319
want him to be there when I'm doing the impression.

1616
01:28:10,399 --> 01:28:13,279
He's like totally Hollywood, so he like shows up when

1617
01:28:14,279 --> 01:28:18,119
the gig is starting. Anyway. Yeah, So we started doing

1618
01:28:18,159 --> 01:28:20,760
these events with Jamie Kennedy and then we decided to

1619
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:25,239
do a podcast tour. That's what we did this go round.

1620
01:28:25,359 --> 01:28:27,760
So I didn't do any live events this time. In LA.

1621
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,880
I went and did we did the Hodge Twins, and

1622
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,159
we did Rousalom's podcast, and we did Tripoli and we

1623
01:28:34,239 --> 01:28:40,239
did whatever podcast, which was insane. I don't know if

1624
01:28:40,239 --> 01:28:42,680
you know, but like the if you stay for the panel,

1625
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:44,880
I didn't realize this. You're basically locked in there with

1626
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:48,000
all the hose for like eight hours and it's like

1627
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:50,199
it's one hundred degrees in there. Yeah.

1628
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Well I knew that just from watching clips. I didn't

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remember a couple episodes. I saw Andrew Wilson and he

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was like, it's so hot here, and but I didn't

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realize it was like eight hours.

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Speaker 2: It's eight hours the second so the day I went,

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we had that debate with that stupid feminist girl, the

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Destiny Female Destiny, and then they're like, oh, you want

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to stay for the panel, but yeah, sure, I'm thinking, okay,

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the panel is what another two hours the next day? Yeah? Sure,

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No eight hours the next day and I'm like what

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And you're locked up in his like you know, his

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his studio thing there, like it's a key entry. So

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it's like some kind of this some sort of weird

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m cultural like like humiliation ritual. And I mean, I

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had a great time. I'm not trying to be a

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dick to Brian and whatever. It's just it's just a

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wild experience and then you're basically talking to these you know,

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of models for eight hours and it was wild. Yeah.

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I love those clips, but it's no, it actually has

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one hundred degrees in there. For some reason, there's not

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a c I don't know what's going on, but I

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mean you're just sitting there sweating and it's just anyway,

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long story short, we did a whole a podcast tour

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this time around, but we do want to probably get

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back to doing more of those live events because I

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have so much fun doing those. Those are more fun.

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I mean, podcasts are great, but like as you know,

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being a stand up, like, there's just something about like

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the live audience and the interaction and the improv and

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all of that that that's so much fun. But yeah,

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so we intend to do more of those, and especially

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now that the third book's coming out in a couple

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of weeks, I'll probably do some more live events pushing

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the book.

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Speaker 1: That's great. What else would you like to plug? My friend?

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me. I'm gonna definitely you know,

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spread this weird try to promote you know, your stuff,

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and thanks for having me on. This is really cool.

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I always love actually my favorite podcast or just talking

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to comedians. That's that's way more fun than all this

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like dark bullshit. All this dark stuff gets old and

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most of the time when people invite you on, they

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want to talk about some serious thing and I'm just like,

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I'd rather just joke around and have fun. But yeah,

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So usually host the fourth hour of Lord of Voldemort

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on Fridays, but sometimes it changes. At least once a

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week I do that. I've been doing that for five years.

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You can always catch me over there at Info Wars.

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Don't know if I'll be back on Peers. I would

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love to go back if they invite me back, but anyway, Yeah,

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you could just find me on my channel. I've been

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doing two or three live streams a week for the

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last five years, so I have probably multiple live streams

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upcoming in the next couple of weeks. You want to

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watch that stuff, and we do a lot of just

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kind of goofy riffing on clips and videos and Q

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and a sometimes calling debates. So that's what I do

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on my channel. You can follow me on X and

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then if you want to get start Carly WITHO three

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it's going to be coming out in a couple of

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weeks and you can get pre orders at the website

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in my shop, and all the copies are signed. So

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the advantage of getting it for me is that it

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is signed. You don't have to request it being signed.

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Don't get it from Jeff Bezos. I don't get anything

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if you buy it from Jeff Bezos.

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Speaker 1: So oh is that right? You don't get anything at all?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Not really, Well, and follow Jason Analysis on Instagram, and

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do subscribe to the Jay Dyer YouTube channel. Man, this

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was great. I hope you'll come back on. We'll be

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even more jokey and we got into some serious.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mind. I mean, I'm happy. I mean

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just to have jokes at all, you know, and silly

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right right off at all is great. So I'm not

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criticizing you at all.

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Speaker 1: All right, hang out for just a second, but I'm

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going to sign off. Thanks to my guest, Jay Dyer,

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and we'll see you guys again. Be sure to subscribe, like,

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and follow on all the social media's. We'll see you again.

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My name is Julian Dion. Thank you everybody.