Speaker 1: Seven o five fifty five cares De Talk Station. Brian Thomas,
Speaker 1: glad to be back on a nice three day weekend.
Speaker 1: Thanks a Dan Carpher covering for me, and so happy
Speaker 1: and many in most respects to welcome my next guest,
Speaker 1: Orlando Sons, and I wish I was welcome and welcoming
Speaker 1: him to congratulat him on his victory in the most
Speaker 1: recent elections. Sadly he ran in Hamilton County and my
Speaker 1: listeners are painfully aware the direction Hamilton County has gone.
Speaker 1: We didn't get Melissa Powers elected, Jarreff Neil didn't get elected,
Speaker 1: and of course one of the finest candidates that was
Speaker 1: running this year, Orlando Sons, that went down as well.
Speaker 1: But I'm happy to have you back on. I read
Speaker 1: your op ed piece, Orlando Sons at excellent President Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's plan to fix immigration is what we need op
Speaker 1: ed which was in the Washington Reporter. Peace, welcome back
Speaker 1: to Orlando. I hope you and your family are doing well.
Speaker 2: Brian, Thanks for having me. Always great to be on Well.
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to talk with you. Such an
Speaker 1: intelligent man and someone who knows a lot about immigration
Speaker 1: because you are the product of legal immigration, which you
Speaker 1: and I and I think most of my listening audience
Speaker 1: embrace go through the process legally. It perhaps is a
Speaker 1: little bit long and drawn out. It's difficult, it's challenging.
Speaker 1: Perhaps there are some hurdles we can get rid of,
Speaker 1: but in the final analysis, that allows our country to
Speaker 1: do what it's supposed to do, which is manage its
Speaker 1: own best interest when you have an open border. Obviously
Speaker 1: it brings about lots of problems. Many cities are experiencing those,
Speaker 1: and as you're out ed Peace points out, it's costing
Speaker 1: the American tax bears a heap load of money. Orlando
Speaker 1: Sonza's right, Brian, and listen, going back to November fifth,
Speaker 1: let's just celebrate the wins up in that night.
Speaker 2: We took back the White House. Isn't that right, Brian?
Speaker 2: We are sending Donald Trump back to the White House,
Speaker 2: and he's going to fix the many problems that our
Speaker 2: country is facing right now, immigration one of them. We
Speaker 2: have taken back the United States Senate and sent our
Speaker 2: good friend Bernie Marino to the US Senate for Ohio,
Speaker 2: and we've held the majority now, albeit slim. You know,
Speaker 2: I wish it was the other way in the US House.
Speaker 2: But listen, we've got all three of the key crucial
Speaker 2: bodies in order to pass good legislation, and especially when
Speaker 2: it comes to fixing our immigration problem. I mean, you
Speaker 2: laid it out clearly, Brian, and we've been talking about
Speaker 2: this for this last year. Immigration, illegal immigration, what it's
Speaker 2: done to this country, in the financial burden it's caused,
Speaker 2: in the national security concerns, it's raised, the human trafficking
Speaker 2: has gone up, Fenton hal has gone up in terms
Speaker 2: of the illegal drug trade finding its way to Southwest Ohio.
Speaker 2: How are we going to fix it? Well? President Trump
Speaker 2: ran on a platform of how he's going to secure
Speaker 2: the southern border on day one, and then he is
Speaker 2: going to make sure that at the fifteen plus illegal
Speaker 2: immigrants that are in this country that we actually, through
Speaker 2: a priority list, send back to their home country those
Speaker 2: that should not be here. And that's what I laid
Speaker 2: out in my op ed that President Trump's plan is
Speaker 2: clear that the first and foremost the criminals that have
Speaker 2: committed violent acts in our country broken our laws in
Speaker 2: the southern border, broken our laws even right here in
Speaker 2: Southwest Ohio. Some of them that I prosecuted as a
Speaker 2: former assistant prosecutor at the Prosecutors Office Hamilton County. They're leaving.
Speaker 2: They're gone because we don't want them here. Certainly, we
Speaker 2: don't want them wreaking havoc just like we've seen the
Speaker 2: last four years. And then it goes on from there.
Speaker 2: I mean, visa overstays accounting for forty percent of illegal immigration. Look,
Speaker 2: this comes down to, Brian, are we going to be
Speaker 2: a country of laws again? Are we going to uphold
Speaker 2: the rule of law? And Donald Trump is going to
Speaker 2: do that. Tom Homan at the Helm as the Borders
Speaker 2: are is going to make sure that that's done. But
Speaker 2: we're going to do it in a way that welcomes
Speaker 2: immigration the way it should be. Legal, safe, you bring
Speaker 2: in families just like mine, just like my parents, want
Speaker 2: to pursue the American dream. They're just going to do
Speaker 2: it the legal way. And that's what I'm most excited
Speaker 2: about in this administration is going back to the rule law.
Speaker 1: And isn't it insane. I Mean I just cited Mayor
Speaker 1: Eric Adams in New York City. He needs to bypass
Speaker 1: his own city council and do some executive action to
Speaker 1: try to get around this sanctuary city law that they
Speaker 1: refuse to withdraw. I mean, he's the one that's looking
Speaker 1: out for the constituents of New York City. They are
Speaker 1: his own people. The residents of New York City are
Speaker 1: screaming at the top of their lungs. They're over budget,
Speaker 1: they got a billion dollar hole. Most of it's because
Speaker 1: of the illegal immigration cost on the city. The residents
Speaker 1: of the city's resources are being used and directed to
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants, which shouldn't be there. He's trying to do
Speaker 1: the right thing. He wants to work with the Trump administration,
Speaker 1: but his own elected officials are standing in the way.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is insanity, Orlando.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is. It's insanity, Brian. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's so abundantly clear that the results of November bid
Speaker 2: election reaffirm that Americans want decisive action on illegal immigrations.
Speaker 2: They do not want politicians just like you highlighted in
Speaker 2: New York across the coasts, where they're defying federal law
Speaker 2: and think they know better than the American people on
Speaker 2: how to keep them safe, how to make sure that
Speaker 2: the economy is not overburdened by what immigration. Illegal immigration
Speaker 2: is costing the American people, and that's why President Trump's
Speaker 2: plan targeting high priority offenders, empowering local law enforcement, enforcing
Speaker 2: existent laws, it's offering a comprehensive solution to secure our
Speaker 2: borders and safeguard America's future. But back to your point, Brian,
Speaker 2: on these sanctuary jurisdictions, Look the fact that we've got cities,
Speaker 2: and sadly even here in Cincinnati, where you've got a
Speaker 2: city council, you've got you've got mayors not just current
Speaker 2: but in past, where they are trying to shield dangerous
Speaker 2: legal immigrants for prosecution. What that's doing is jeopardizing public
Speaker 2: safety and national security. And so President Trust's plan again
Speaker 2: I lay it out in my outfit, that he's got
Speaker 2: a plan in order to hold these jurisdictions accountable. It
Speaker 2: promotes accountability, it fosters strong cooperation between federal and local
Speaker 2: law enforcement. And so that's why we should not be
Speaker 2: surprised when we actually see out of this incoming administration
Speaker 2: these sanctuary cities held accountable, because that's what the people
Speaker 2: want to see. They want to make sure that our
Speaker 2: local leaders are upholding the laws. And if their federal laws,
Speaker 2: well guess what if the American people, the average everyday
Speaker 2: American needs to uphold every law from local, state, and federal. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: we should be expecting that our local elected officials are
Speaker 2: also abiding by the law.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't come up with any other conclusion. Then
Speaker 1: there is some profound nefarious intent among these elected officials
Speaker 1: who insist on allowing you know, sanctuary cities, not cooperating
Speaker 1: with Ice. Specifically when it comes to this very dangerous
Speaker 1: criminal element. We're talking about people who already have records
Speaker 1: that have been through the process. This isn't just every
Speaker 1: illegal immigrant. We're going to start with the worst defenders,
Speaker 1: ones who have gotten due process, have been convicted of crimes,
Speaker 1: are known to have been have committed crimes here even
Speaker 1: in the United States or their home countries. How is
Speaker 1: it that anybody in elected capacity would think they're doing
Speaker 1: the citizenry any good by allowing these people to stay
Speaker 1: here and not cooperating with the folks who can get
Speaker 1: them out. Have you given any thought to that, Orlando.
Speaker 1: I hate to put you on the spot from that,
Speaker 1: but I mean, it's just it's baffling to me.
Speaker 2: Well, Brian, it begs the question again, what is their
Speaker 2: motive for doing this? Right, It's obviously not to keep
Speaker 2: the people safe. It's obviously not to make sure that
Speaker 2: our American taxpayer dollars aren't going to I mean, look again, right,
Speaker 2: another mandate that the American people delivered on November fifth
Speaker 2: was they wanted to fix this broken economy that we've
Speaker 2: seen out of the last four years in the Biden
Speaker 2: Harris administration. And so for you know, we even talk
Speaker 2: about the cost, the cost of illegal immigration is putting
Speaker 2: on the shoulders of the American taxpayer one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty one billion dollars annually annually, Brian and you know
Speaker 2: people that talk about, you know, a deportation effort, saying
Speaker 2: that it's not feasible, it's it's it's too expensive. Well,
Speaker 2: it is substantial. I mean again, from conservative estimates, we're
Speaker 2: talking about three hundred billion dollars, but one time, a
Speaker 2: one time effort that Trump has tried to lay out
Speaker 2: that would in effect fix the problem that we're seeing
Speaker 2: out of the legal immigration Compared to one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty one billion dollars annually. I mean again, I think
Speaker 2: it's it's a high cost, yes, but in comparison to
Speaker 2: what it's doing to the American people. On an annual basis.
Speaker 2: But it again just blows my mind that when you've
Speaker 2: got criminals that are wreaking havoc in our streets and
Speaker 2: you've got now these local elected officials that want to
Speaker 2: do nothing about it. In fact, they order their local
Speaker 2: police department to not comply with federal law and report
Speaker 2: these criminals to Ice and federal law enforcement. You just
Speaker 2: got to ask yourself, why in the world would they
Speaker 2: be doing that. And again, it's for the American people
Speaker 2: to hold them accountable, hold these elected officials accountable. The
Speaker 2: Trump administration is going to certainly hold them accountable.
Speaker 1: Well, I certainly hope we turned the corner on this
Speaker 1: here locally as well as the other sanctuary cities. And
Speaker 1: I think, you know, all these mayors that abide by
Speaker 1: the sanctuary cities are on full notice. Again. Just turning
Speaker 1: to Eric Adams in New York, I think he's setting
Speaker 1: a great example for the rest of the mayors in
Speaker 1: the country to, you know, get their act together, go
Speaker 1: the different direction. Recognize that that election of Donald Trump
Speaker 1: was really largely, or at least in a substantial part,
Speaker 1: built on the open borders problem that the Biden administration facilitated,
Speaker 1: and that they're in the wrong political posture by sticking
Speaker 1: with the open borders policy and sanctuary cities, and maybe
Speaker 1: we'll get a result and we can turn things around. Orlando,
Speaker 1: wonderful op ed piece. And as we part company, I
Speaker 1: hope you and your family have just a joyous, joyous
Speaker 1: holiday season and that everybody's in good health. And anytime
Speaker 1: you want to come on the program to talk, I
Speaker 1: enjoy our conversations. You do have a brilliant analysis when
Speaker 1: it comes to things like this, and I really wish
Speaker 1: I was talking to an elected official, but you know,
Speaker 1: you're a very valuable man for us to have down
Speaker 1: the road. I've got big, big ideas for you, and
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see big things from you.
Speaker 2: Orlando, Brian, I appreciate it. Thanks so much. Happy Mary, Christmas,
Speaker 2: Happy near to you and your family, and on working up.
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