Speaker 1: You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best
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Scary Era Era is the Irish or Gaelic word for Ireland.
Paranormal means all the things that are impossible to explain
by non natural forces or by science, and Ireland is
steep and lower ghosts, blood, sweat, tears, sacrifice, hunger, desperation
and charm. Oh and the paranormal. Welcome to Scary Era,
Mark Manning. Yeah, well, at least it's got your attention.
Speaker 2: I am a paranormal darlings.
Speaker 1: It's been a while, Yes, indeed, welcome along to Scary
Era Season two, episode five and talking about all things
paranormal in the Emerald dial So what have you been
up to? Hey, can't really hear you, So that means
I'd be telling you what I've been up to. Well,
in Ireland and England for the guts of two weeks now,
the sun has been absolutely splitting the skies, as we
say in Gaelic ove young Greenitan. So it's been beautiful.
I actually sat outside yesterday and listened to some really
spiritual music and took in some UV rays while missus
Manning summed herself with her sister in the Mediterranean. But
we won't mention that, will we. She's got this thing
when she goes away on holidays, she likes to think
that it's raining back in Ireland. That gives her some
kind of perverse pleasure. But I had to disappoint her
this time. Oh Francis, yes, you're just missing like some
of the best weather we've ever had. I'm sure you'll
be delighted to know. Well. Earlier on in the series
I met with you might recall the very lovely American
psychic in Ireland called Ronda Hale, and I got so
much material out of her that day. In fact, you're
going to hear it referred to later in this show
when I replay an interview I did with a very
brilliant Richie Allan show Richie Allen of same. She gave
me a reading during that interview which we hadn't arranged,
and it had to do with my late mother and
father who just kind of came on the scene. I
know this sounds out out there, but bearwith just came
on the scene during the interview, and she was remarkably accurate,
and even more so as I thought about it later.
So if you listen to what we're gonna hear, which
is part two of the rohnda Hale Interview, where she
recalls her visits psychic and otherwise around Ireland. Because you'll
find her on rohnda Hale dot com. She's a very
brilliant psychic medium as well as other things. But you'll
find her on the Paranormal Resident channel on YouTube run
by a lovely guy called Kiron who befriended Rhonda and
shows her all around Ireland where she reflects on her findings.
That's where we're going to be talking about in just
a minute's time, so listen up. Okay, then we'll have
Richie Allen and his interview with wah yours truly as
to all things strange and wonderful and bizarre and and
just what makes me tick in that sense. Oh, hang on, coffee,
I'm gonna I need it, but I drink too much
of it, so I'm gonna ease off it. I've got
a month to go until i'm stateside for a bit,
and I'm going to try and ease off the coffee
until then. Please get in touch with the show if
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Speaker 2: What is it, Loland, that's the one right, It's time
to join my Ronda in a found call that we
had together some months ago. Oh oh is it Roonda?
Speaker 1: And I?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Ever? Can I just touch on some of the places
that you've been in Ireland before? Before? Before I do?
I just want to say what you might have mentioned
it already, but what location spoke to you or had
the biggest impression on you within Ireland?
Speaker 3: Probably Left Castle? I think cool?
Speaker 1: You know what? So far it's running at about nine
people in your camp and one person saying he felt
nothing whatsoever. So talk to me about Left Castle. I
have seen the video by the.
Speaker 3: Way, Oh yeah, okay, Well I didn't know where I
was going because Kiran decided whenever we would do anything
that he just wouldn't tell me where we were going.
And so we're on the way and as I was driving,
he was filming me and a lady came through with
this beautiful raven hair and like a red just beautiful
beautiful woman come through and so right off when I
told him that, and I said, there's a man with her.
But he's kind of domineering. I didn't know if he
was a father or whatever. So immediately even before I
got to Left Castle, you know, that was he said, well,
you're right on point. I'm not going to tell you what,
and I'm not going to tell you how, but you're
very much on point. So when we got there, it
was kind of crazy because and I, like, again, I
knew nothing about the history, and honestly, I haven't even
looked up before after the thing was passed, I haven't
looked up the history of Left Castle. I just knew
that later that it was referred to as a like
a bloody massacre that happened in the top floor later,
but nobody knows why. I guess people have their theories,
but I'm convinced I know exactly why. And it was
it's in the video because some of the people came
through and started telling me a story of a love
triangle and how it ended so badly and so tragically
and awful, you know, in that massacre. But that was
pretty intense because when I guess the reason that just
hit me so hard was that when I was on
the second floor of the castle, I kept feeling above me.
I kept feeling like a wedding was happening or something's
happening up above me, so he says, okay, let's just
get up there. When we got up there, that's when
the whole thing unfolded and I got the communication from
the priest who was the brother of the man who
did the murder on the massacre, and he ended up
telling me the love story the triangle, and that, I
guess really just made my heart ache for all of them.
I had so much compassion for each and every one
of those people, each all three of them. I guess
it's very heartbreaking. That's why it sticks with me. But
a lot of other locations, like the battlefield location, that
was pretty intense. Akram Battlefield, Yeah, that was really really intense.
Because I have sensory all six senses or five senses.
I have six cents five human senses were very acutely awake.
Was the smell and not just the visual, but all
of it on the Auckland battlefield. But then again, if
I bounced over to the Rock of Cathleen, the invasion
that happened there and the wedding that that happened on
the day that it happened, that bride that came through
and I could chase the orange blossoms that she had chewed.
She chewed on some orange blossoms. I didn't know this,
but she told me that she did it for freshening
and sweetening up her breast on the wedding day. And
so I just kept chasing these tastes in my mouth.
I'm like, what is that? And then pretty soon she
came through and told me her story about the master
that happened there on the Rock of Cashle on her
wedding day, and who she was marrying, and and who
the invasion you know, our favorite invader from England it
was with Cromwell came through on that day. And just
how absolute we ruthless, and the timing and the person
who told and I don't know that is such a
tough question. Mark. That's one of the things I love
about Ireland is having come here and it's just the
tip of the iceberg. There's so much more I want
to explore. And it's funny too because at one of
the locations someone came through and Kieren hadn't didn't have
it filming that time, and we were just talking and
someone came through and it was Catherine. Someone came through
from England and said that they wanted me to come
see something in England and I wrote it down and
I have it all down. But Catherine Swinford came through
and it was at a location where we were. I
think it was the Donegal. I think because I saw
these little rose it these engravings of the pattern of
roses on the fireplace, and I was like, wait a minute,
that's English, this is English. And then I looked up
at the this like hanging light fixture and it was
a it looked like a wagon wheel. And when as
soon as I looked out, that's when Captain Swinford came
and said, that is that's part of my coat of arms.
That's my wagon wheel. And I was like, who are you?
And so she started telling me her story and she said,
I want you to come see my location. I want
you to see my estate on Swinford. I want you
to know my story, and she started telling me a
little bit about her story. So just being able to
be resident here in Ireland and know that there's so
much more that is I've never given the opportunity to explore. Still,
I'd like to explore historical spots, because Ireland's history is
so tied and in a convoluted way with the history
of the UK and the conquerors and the takeovers and
the fight and the struggles for independence, et cetera. It's
so rich in history, and so I would really love
to explore even more. I just I love being I
couldn't choose the place. It's hardly to choose the place
really that resonates with me more Mark, I wish I
could give you a location.
Speaker 1: Can I run one more by you? Kell's Priory, County
kill Kenny.
Speaker 3: Trying to remember Kell's prairie.
Speaker 1: It was like big but maybe four big towers on
either side. It's very flat walls. I think there had
been two invasions there, one of the eleven hundreds, another
in the thirties.
Speaker 3: Kell Prior, Oh yeah, oh my god, Kell's Priory, Holy
Kenolly is that the one where there had been two invasions?
And I feel like the second invasion that I was
picking up on anyway, was really unexpected, maybe from like
the north, like maybe from Scotland. Yeah, possibly, okay, okay, yes, yes, yes, yeah,
I remember that. I remember that. Oh that was something else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know why I might just ask you
about Kell's priory, but all your antenna up, you don't
do you?
Speaker 3: Oh I do? I'm go ahead and ask me. No,
I could. I don't know why you're asking me.
Speaker 1: I was just wondering what you pick up on it.
I was born, I'd say, within a miles to two
my radius, afarease.
Speaker 3: Do you have a connection there yourself personally just from
your regal No?
Speaker 1: Most people, No, I didn't know. Most people think of
County Kels as is in me the famous, world famous
Book of Kels. But there is a little area which
Rhonda and myself have just been talking about called Kells
in County kill Kenny, and it features a big priory.
Your video resonated with me again again. All the videos
for American Medium in Ireland appear on Paranormal Resident YouTube channel. Yeah,
it was amazing place. I was amazed myself at it.
In fact, I remember reading somewhere and I think the
title in yours was American Sick to the stomach or
something gets a feeling. Yeah, I remember reading somewhere or
it might have been on YouTube. Some guy had such
a bad experience, a bad trip if you like. Yeah, yeah,
out there at night that he never ever revisited anything
in connection with the paranormal. He got such a fright.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it was, you know what I
want to tell you that I'm just remember, you know,
when I was there at Kel's Priory, when I first
came you where it went onto the main, main, main
area where all the life and activity was going. When
we went to this small little chapel kind of area
where I felt like there was an energy of a
lot of white energy, which is like protective feeling. I
kept feeling fire coming up on my neck. I felt
just so much heat around my neck. After we left there,
I told Kiran that I felt like I was being
burned at a steak wow. I felt like that flames
were looking up on me. And then later he told
me that there had been a witch burning there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alice Kittler, I think now she wasn't she escaped
to England, but she was this witch character in County
Cokenny in medieval times, and it was a revelation to
me that she was tried in the priory. She was putting.
Speaker 3: Yes, she was there ever a witch burning there, because
that's what after we left, I definitely felt like I
I was being burned, but yeah, if she had, it
must not have been hurt her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Petronella her her maid. She paid the price unfortunately,
and she might be. There was very few burning at
the stakes in Ireland, in Europe and in Scotland they
were ten a penny. In England they would hang or
hung hung their witches around. We actually had a witch
on the show, Lovely Lady, Yvonne Lawton, from down in Yorlan,
County Cork, recently and sheld say to me, yet there
were a handful of burning at the stakes, but nothing
on the scale of abroad, because the Irish always have
had this kind of affinity of walking in tandem with
its spirit and understanding that there's a yeah beyond the
veil if you like.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was just the flames looking up from I
felt like there had been fires there, but you could
be wrong. Maybe maybe that's it was. I don't know,
but boy, I'll tell you. I remember it was so
hot on nan Yak. It was like, oh my gosh,
this is really uncomfortable. You know.
Speaker 1: Well, look Randa Hale of Rhondahale dot Com. Anywhere else I.
Speaker 3: Get you, Yeah, you can find me on Instagram, and
that would be help me, Help me Randa Official. Actually,
how you can find me on on Instagram, but the
easiest way to get a hold of me really is
just by my website, which is my name r h
O n d a h a l e dot com,
Rondehale dot com and there's a contact me button if
you need to reach out. I'm a certified to hypnotherapist.
I have seven certificates and I one of my most
I guess the ones I'm most proud of is the
one that I got. I'm a Level two practitioner in QHHT,
which is the method that was yes, so I would
have been able to get to the level three, but
then twenty twenty happened and the shutdown happened, so I
never did actually get the paper. But it's just absolutely astounding.
I just did a QHHT session for somebody last week
and it's absolutely mind boggling when it when it clicks
into place and when it's happening, it's unbelievable, unbelievable things.
Speaker 1: And named the accreditation you just mentioned, the the.
Speaker 3: Lowerest kind of Yeah, the q HHT that's.
Speaker 1: Not easy to get if I remember rightly.
Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's not easy. And I've that's my
the seventh one that I have.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 3: It's in medical and clinical as well as past life regression.
Just so much healing available, and I think it makes
it for me. I feel like I'm able to have.
I do have really really good success with hypnotherapy as
far as my client base, the feedback I get from them,
the reviews I've got with my on Google you can
find me with empowered hypnotherapy. But with that, I think
that it does help to be a psychic medium because
when I've got my client in trance, they're grand mother
or their sister or their brother or whoever, will come
through and say, hey, they're not telling you this, but
they did have trauma at this time and this happened
here and da da da dah. So I can guide
them and say, okay, let's go to age seven, where
are you what's happening, And then healing can start being
you know, it just cleaned up, and new neural pathways
can be introduced and old neural pathways can be shut
down so that triggers don't have power anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, Robney, Rhonda, I would say to you that on
the one hand, I envy you your gift, and because
from what I've seen today it's very uncanny I've heard today,
I'm still a bit reading over, if I'm honest with you.
But on the other hand, I don't because I feel
at times you probably do you ever have a crisis
of conscience with something you've picked up on somebody?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Moral dilemma? Essentially, does that happen?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I can't. Yeah, I can't believe
you're bringing that up, but yeah, yea that it is nauseating.
It can be nasey only because, as I said before,
you know I do. I do establish very very strong boundaries,
so I always feel safe and protected. You could take
me to a broken down ruin where the criminally insane
were kept, and that would be a very scary place
to go, but I wouldn't be afraid for me, for
my spiritual faithy or anything like that. However, when I'm
out and about and I'm not trying to channel anything,
and someone will k past me and I will get
a full video tape glimpse of something that they just
did or they're thinking about doing, and that is chilling.
Speaker 1: I'd say it is, but in your defense, I mean,
I think for your own peace of mind, should I say,
on the one hand, you know, let's say somebody walks
by you and you're aware of something horrific intent, a
horrific event or intent.
Speaker 3: Most of the time it's an event that has already happened,
or they practice on a regular basis.
Speaker 1: And I suppose you know of Rhonda wants to run
to the police and say this, Oh God, yeah, but
as part of Ronda as well, should calm down and say,
listen Ronda for a start, The chances are it's not
going to be admissible in a court of laws exactly.
And that's your peace of mind, that's your get out
close that could drive you mad, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the thing. I think. The thing that's so
scary is that you think about when you go to
like a zoo where there's tigers and lions and deadly
animals like predators behind glass and you can watch them
in a habitat, When this kind of clarity comes through
walking just walking past someone and you're like, holy, can
only I didn't want to know that about them? You
realize there's no habitat you can keep them in there's
no they're just rolling free. That is terrifying. And then
immediately all I do is find out light of protection
to whoever they may come across, for their guides to
protect them. Just like when I was little, when I
had my guide say, you know, if I could actually
see them and say, oh no, don't go over there,
stay over here, don't go over there, say over here.
We all have that. I just hope it becomes more
apparent to anybody who could be victimized by that thing.
Speaker 1: You must in this human zoo kind of thing analogy,
you must come across quite a few wolves in sheep's clothing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. But when that starts happening, the
problem is that it's kind of like the whole concept
of the stage. If you were burning a lot of stage,
I'd come across a heck of a lot. More So,
I try to keep my energy very pristine, very high frequency,
and so I don't come across.
Speaker 4: It too much.
Speaker 3: It's just that sometimes when you have your paths crossed
with somebody or like I mean, even though I could
be watching television or something and you'll get a glimpse
of something, but I just pull away and say, listen,
that's not what I want to tap into. So thanks
for showing me that. But I don't need to see anymore.
Speaker 1: You could be at a party and be introduced to
someone's grandfather, oh yeah, and.
Speaker 3: You go, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: He looks like a lovely wor there's original change, but
he's a freakin' ex World War two Yep savage.
Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely absolutely. And that's happened to my daughter many many, many,
many many times too, won't you.
Speaker 1: It's not her name though, I like, I love you. Yeah, well, listen,
it's been an absolute pleasure and a revelation, a revelation
to talk to you. Revelation. Rhonda from Ronda Hail dot
com is not the best place to get you at or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ronda hill dot com is a very easy place
because then you can just email me and my numbers
on her too. You can even text me on WhatsApp whatever.
I work with people all over the world and and
so if anybody needs to connect, just connect with me, and.
Speaker 4: I'll put this out there that, you know, the opportunity
to be able to explore new locations, if that opportunity
ever came up and someone ever wanted to sponsor something
like that, I would.
Speaker 1: Be amenable to it. Fantastic, Yeah, Ronda, that's great. Well,
this goes out all over the world, so you know
it'd be nice to beat the bushets for you. And
you came up trum.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of things over the years. But I've learned,
well I don't. I suppose it's not learned. I've just
become accustomed to it. And I think it's kind of
it's it's maybe it's another sense or something. But often
when you go into places, you'll get a feeling for
the place, and you'll get a feeling of whether or
not it's comfortable. And whatever cause is that. Who knows
what causes that. But we have an intuition. We have
an inbuilt intuition. I can't describe what it is or
where it comes from, or the physics of it or
the chemistry of it, but it's there. And anybody will
will tell you to stick with your intuition. If you
think something doesn't feel right, then don't hang around.
Speaker 6: Superb advice from regular contributor to Scary Era, David McGlynn
aka the Squire, And don't hang around either. If you've
got an Irish paranormal tale to tell. Simply email Paranormal
Ireland at proton mail dot com and it'll be read
out for you before you get to tell it on
air yourself. That's Paranormal Ireland at proton male dot com.
Speaker 1: Manning, hope you're enjoying scary era in whatever wee corner
of the universe I find you in. Now, my next
guest is me. Ah, there's a twist. But however, I
would like to tell you about the gentleman who is
interviewing me, fellow irishman Richie Allen. You see, Richie suffers
from something the Beatles wrote about. He won't agree with me,
but I'm going to say it something inside that was
always denied. Now. Unfortunately, who is being denied is the
general public, you see, because Richie is hugely talented in
the area of broadcasting and a real true journalist as well.
Unfortunately for him, he speaks his mind, and as you know,
most stations out there in the mainstream, who are advancing
mediocricy at a rate of knots don't want to know
when it comes to a guy who's able to command
so many listeners that he's actually the most listened to
independent radio show podcast and otherwise in the world independent
radio show. All the figures are there to support that.
I've become a friend of the Richie Allen Show and
he's opened his doors to me and he's been really
good to me. So Richie, if you are listening, thanks
so much. You are taking the world by storm, whereas
I kind of take it by cam. So now you
might think I'm being a bit effusive for pandering a
bit too much, but I happen to believe in people,
and Richie is a really good bloke. He's a thoroughly
alright guy. And if there was any justice, he'd be
in the mainstream on a six figure plus salary with
a Shawford driven are driven to the BBC or wherever
every day. The guy is that good and there's no
fucking justice. It's as simple as that. He's not afraid
to put his head over the parapet and that's very
threatening to some people. So let's have a little look
at his bio, shall we. The very brilliant Richie Allen,
as I call him, is an award winning radio and
television presenter and the host of The Richie Allen Show.
The most listened to independent news radio show as We've
just been saying in the world. He got his start
in the late nineteen nineties presenting overnight shows for his
local station in Waterford, w l Or, which is a
hugely popular station with a big audience. He was promoted
to producer of the station's news show. During his tenure,
the show enjoyed the healthiest ratings in its history. Then
Our Richie left Ireland to study TV and radio at
the University of Salford. During this time he also taught
radio production courses for city and guilds. He moved to Espana, Spain,
where he presented a hugely successful evening show for Talk
Radio Europe. The show featured conspiracy researchers and covered issues
that were previously considered too controversial for commercial radio. What
have I just been saying? The man is the guru
of taboom. In twenty thirteen, Richie moved to London to
present a daily TV show for The People's Voice and Shore.
Then he moved back to Manchester to launch the Richie
Allen Radio Show, which airs on the Richie Allenshow app
richiellendt Co dot UK and FABR Radio International dot com.
The show has gone on to become the most widely
listened to independent news radio show in the world. Richie
is a free speech absolutist. This has brought him into
conflict with various special interest groups and has seen him
accused of aligning with any guest whose opinions might be
on popular or offensive. He firmly believes that all views
should be heard and challenged. His news radio show broadcasts
live from five to seven pm Monday to Thursday. He
also presents, which I know is very precious to him,
a nostalgic music show called Sunday Morning Melodies each Sunday
morning at ten a m. All right, that's the blurb.
Speaker 7: Rich Let's hear about me and let's welcome our guest today.
I've already told you he's an Irish broadcaster. He's a teacher.
He is a voiceover specialist and is the host of
the Scary Era podcast, which I came across when kind
of hanging around his YouTube channel earlier in the year.
It just began. It's a second season, and I asked
them to come on and talk about it because, as
I've already said, it is an area of research that
I find eminently fascinating. You'll find him on Twitter under
his name it's Mark Manning. It's a real pleasure to
welcome back to the program from the old sod our friend,
Mark Manning, Welcome back. How are you doing Mark?
Speaker 1: The very brilliant Ritchie Allen. Thanks for having me on,
although I know you're not having me on, You're perfectly serious.
Speaker 7: Where did your interest in the paranormal and paranormal stories
in Ireland? Where did it come from?
Speaker 1: So this guy used to come over in the nineteen seventies,
Lyle Watson was his name. He was a polymath, as
I said, he could do everything. He'd do Sukahara back stands,
and he was a biologist and a botanist and all
this stuff. And he was a kind of contemporary of
a guy I think you knew Uri Geller. Yes, well,
you know it was kind of coming pop trendy back then.
The paranormal, you know, and paranormal, as I said, isn't
just ghosties, it's anything that can't be explained by science.
So he would have, for instance, he would relate stories
after this amazing book he wrote called SuperNature, you know,
instances where scientists had hooked up little micro microphones if
you like to plants, and you'd hear a plant screaming
as you pulled it from the soil. This was all,
you know, documented and kind of recorded and enhanced and
all this kind of stuff. Also, I think an old
party trick of his was he take a razor blade
and he'd make up a pyramid, which has been in
the news recently, the pyramids, but a pyramid shape and
he placed a blunt razor blade under it and hey,
prest within twenty four hours or so, that thing was sharp. Right.
Speaker 7: So these were like.
Speaker 1: Amazing little experiments. And in the book Super Nature, like
he really relates things about insects, regenerating limbs and all
this just totally amazing stuff. If anyone wants to take
it further, I mean, one story I heard, I mean
you can go in and get him. His Desert Island
discs is still there, right, And also a documentary, a
short one called Five Narrow Windows. If you go Google
and you'll hear his story. I'll just related very quickly
as follows on the foot of SuperNature being so amazing.
He got a call from an Italian guy living with
his family in Venice and he said, mister Watson, Why
don't you come over here and I've got something to
show you know, by the way, Venice one of my
most favorite places in the world. Right, you gotta be,
you gotta be. I don't know if you can take
the poor old hounds.
Speaker 7: Probably not. Probably the retriever would love the swimming or
I support not the not the not not the the
other one, the shepherd. Anyway, I'm absolutely grip poy this,
So go on to wet. You got a call from
the Italians, Yeah, he.
Speaker 1: Got so come up and see me sometime in Vinicci, right,
which he did, and he was invited to this very
kind of normal but serene household and the father was
the guy that had contacted Lyle Watson, and he said,
I want you to meet my little six year old girl.
She's got a little party trick for you. Okay, So
Lyle Watson sat down at the dinner table. It was
all very convivial, and then the father gestures to the
daughter and he says, will you will you do your
trick for this nice gentleman. So she took a tennis ball,
you know, like the kind the kind of hairy yellow
tennis balls, and she held it in her hand. And
this almost explains that like a dreamy look came over,
as if she was talking to a little fury animal,
and she gently would rub this tennis ball, and honest
to God, Richie, the thing inverted, right. So what happened
was it literally flipped. So the rubber innards, if you like,
were the outer part of the sphere of the ball,
and the fluffy stuff was he cut it in half?
Was inside?
Speaker 7: She turned the ball inside out out and it was
it a magic trick or inexplicable? Was it? Nobody could
understand how she did it?
Speaker 1: Put his hands around the ball as she was rubbing it.
So if there was any kind of little trickery going
on with a string or something like that, not at all.
And not only did that, she did it about three
times for him.
Speaker 7: And now how did she come to understand that she
could do such a thing? And what did what did
they think about it? Did they think she was blessed
somehow with some sort of skills? Because I'd imagine, i mean,
the the Italians and the Irish, we'd be a superstitious
group of people, like you'd begin to think, like has
she been blessed by God or touched by god, what
did they think about it?
Speaker 1: Mom?
Speaker 3: And me?
Speaker 1: I haven't written.
Speaker 7: I wasn't there.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, what is assassinating to me? This is quite amazing. Yes,
just for the crack, you know. No, it was just
something she did, and he said. The sad part about
it was as she grew older, words had gotten around
the school and she considered herself. She got very paranoid,
god lover and felt a bit freakish, as you would.
Oh god, you remember that film years ago where your
woman is in the disco and all the paint gets
carried you remember.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Cissy Space. Yeah, of course when the doors all lock. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
John Travolti, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, sorry, that was just a break for ads.
So no, she got very paranoid about it, and she
ceased to be able to do it.
Speaker 7: Isn't that interesting now that's all that happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: That reminds me of a play I went to see
in the abbey years ago, and the play was about
a great great healer called Valentine great Rex. You probably
heard of this guy. I think he was either sixteenth
or seventeenth century, but he was a bona fide, genuine
energy healer who operated in Ireland and then one day
his powers of healing completely deserted him. And that's what
the play is about. And this guy is a real guy,
a real character. But again, he did these amazing things,
and of course then there was almost heresy back then
to be claiming to have any sort of supernatural ability
to heal people, and he would have lived in kind
of fear of his life and stuff like that. But yeah,
again skeptics came from far and wide, but couldn't disprove
in any way that this guy was the genuine article.
You're listening to, Mark Manning. We're talking about the paranormal
Scary Era is in its second season or series. It's
pretty Mark. I'm not just saying that I've been listening
to what. I've been watching it and thinking about these
issues in the stories I've heard growing up about the paranormal,
particularly in Ireland. And I know you've had an interest
in Loft this Hole in County Wexford. Now I visited
Loft this All in County Wexford, I don't know how
many times as a kid. And for me, and maybe
I'm biased because it's so close to where I grew up.
Well close is to where I grew up and my
radio station WRFM. They did a wonderful film documentary about
loft Us Aul. Do you want to tell that story
loft us all? You want me to tell it?
Speaker 1: Well, w l R fair play. That's a big station,
Loft this Hole. I'll be honest with you. My only
interaction with loft as holes. I did the voiceover for
a recent movie called Loftus Whole, which went out on
television about six or seven years ago. But yeah, go on,
you tell the story rich.
Speaker 7: Well, it's the fourteenth The mansion itself in County Exford
is a fourteenth century mansion and it's an incredible story
about a like a lot of these stories are dark
and stormy evening. The Tottenham family were resident, were they
They were the owners occupiers of Loft this Hole at
the time. And late one evening a stranger came to
the door in diabolical weather weather, and the stranger came in,
was invited in, and was invited to sitpoint the fire,
and then to have something to eat. And then later
on because the storm or the weather hadn't hadn't debated,
I believe to play cards. I should know this off
by heart. You fill in any blanks here. And while
they were playing cards, the young lady of the house
and Tautenhaim had cause to look under the table where
they were playing cards, maybe to check whether the stranger
was sequestering cards under the table or for whatever reason.
And it turned out the stranger had hooves, had hooves,
and when the stranger realized that he'd been rumbled, he
transformed into what looked like to be a demon of
some kind, maybe the devil, and left the property through
the ceiling. Isn't that right? Like levitated in the air
in front of these people, burst through the roof. And
for many many, many many years thereafter, it was believed
that the hole in the roof was irreparable, that was
the local legend, but that the woman Anne taught in
him descended into total madness and never recovered. And apparently
horse spirit couldntinues to haunt loft Us all even today,
and having worked for years on w l Lauren, having
produced mid morning talk radio, we often heard from people
who had claimed to have seen this woman's operation. But
it's a brilliant, brilliant story. I mean, if it's true,
it's sensation.
Speaker 1: The problem with it Richie. And by the way, there's
an amazing staircase in that house. Yeah, it's kind. I
think there's only two. It's only two of a kind
or something. That story is kind of replicated. You'll hear
it in a few instances. For instance, the hell Fire Club.
Speaker 7: Oh yes, tell us about the Healthfire Club.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you about the health Fire Club in
so far as as my late father, the Colonel, used
to say, I saw nothing worse than I saw nothing
worse than myself. By the way, I'm a fricking stones trow.
I was born in Kilkenny, so I consider myself a double.
I've been here since sixty eight. But sure I'm not.
I wasn't born from where you are, old son.
Speaker 7: No you weren't. No you were a black and number
yeah yeah, yeah, indeed.
Speaker 1: Well I was born in a place called Kels. Now
everyone thinks of the Book of Kells, which is in Meath.
This is Kels. There's an abbey there, and hold that
thought as well, because it is relevant to our conversation
later on. But the hell Fire Club, okay was and
there's one in England as well. Right, So these were
all back in the sixteenth and seventeenth century. You know,
the blokes with the wigs and the little little pantaloon trousers,
fricking money than sense rich. They were the kind of
the elon musks and whatever of their day. Right, bloody playboys, right,
and they basically used to play cards up there.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: It's located on a place called Montpellier Hill, not a
mountain or anything. But if you're up there, boy, you
feel elevated and you get a fantastic panoramic view of
Dublin City by ja Auklea all around you in fluorescent light.
It is amazing. But these guys there was you know
tales of the literally the Taiale, you told that's happened.
So there was an instant of a cat going and
interrupting one of their games, their card games, and they
threw what was called spalt being I think, on top
of the cat. The cat went down the hill like
a like a.
Speaker 7: Like a cat on fire, yeah.
Speaker 1: Like a feline flambay, yeah yeah, yeah, Because this thing
went went like literally flames went out of it like
Michael Jackson's head and took off down the hill. So
they were near do wells and there were all kinds
of talk about debauchery and black masses, et cetera. Now,
I was up there in twenty twenty one with my
good friend Steven, who doesn't scare easy in the least
and all, as I'd say, and I mean this for
anybody that's listening. You know, forget about the ghost hunt thing.
Stuff undoubtedly took place in these in these locations, right, let.
Speaker 7: Me jump in there, let me be sure. So what
is it then? Is it that something is left behind,
some sort of a trace of something? So like, I
genuinely believe that some people are very sensitive to this
type of thing. I used to be very skeptical. I
used to think people were frauds, and I was very
dogmatic about it. I've learned a lot since then. I've
learned that I knew very little. I know very little now,
but I knew even less back then. So is it
that there's a trace, there is a residual energy in
these places that can be happened upon or picked up
on by somebody who's able to who is sensitive to it.
Speaker 1: Is that your understanding of it, That would be my
preferred understanding of it. I can because I can relate
to it. I don't necessarily believe in the woo woo
haunting stuff at all. Now that's just because I haven't
experienced it. By the way, I would be top of
the pops in terms of being skeptic had I not
come face to face with something in my in my
formative years.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was. I was going to come back to that.
Of course, I was going to work around that. I'm
not forgetting that's very important. But stick with the healthcare
club then and the surrounds.
Speaker 1: Okay. So yeah, to answer your question, I am a
subscriber to what's known as stone tape theory, and the
you know, it originates in a kind of Christmas time
film the BBC put out or a little drama series
whereby it was felt, you know, these scientists were investigating
a castle and it was felt the noise as the audio,
et cetera, even the vision had been imbued somehow within
the stone work of the castle that they were investigating.
So every so often, under certain and this is what
I believe I saw under certain conditions, atmospheric conditions, whether
it's the you know, like remember the magnetic tape. So
it's like stone tape theory. So you know that that
tape absorb countermemory exactly. God, I used to play with
those BASF tapes and stuff when I was a kid.
This got me into the whole radio lark. But I digress.
To answer your question, I think it is a replaying
of usually maybe some kind of a traumatic event somewhere
where large burst of emotion has been involved, similar to
us suppose in some respects what you'd see in the
shroud of turin that kind of you know, where there's
an explanation of something, be it grief or a violent event,
and then it just gets replayed under certain conditions.
Speaker 7: That's just me. Yeah, I like that. I like that
as a possible explanation. I know it's not what you've
described now, But for me, the word that keeps coming
into my mind is echo that certain things can be
so awful, so traumatic, so explosive. Yeah, that they might
leave echoes of themselves around. Because I like to think
that when people die, their spirit, their energy some people
call it a soul, moves on to whatever's next. Now,
there are people listening to this who and they've very much.
We have listeners who are very much into it, and
they reckon that they're convinced that there is a phenomenon
whereby the soul isn't ready to leave, and this might
explain hauntings, right, this might explain some of the some
of the experiences people like Derekakorea claimed to have had,
and Yvette Fielding and other people like that, that there
are people who were wrenched from this physical world, whatever
it is, so quickly, so violently, so horribly that they're
not really aware of the fact that they're gone and
they're hanging around. We're thinking the Nicole Kidman movie now
the others, right, what a twist that was. By the way,
I must be the only agent in the world who
didn't get that twist. I didn't get that twist at all.
But you don't buy that, do you, That it's somebody
who's left around who is just not aware that they
need to move on.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'd keep an open mind because I wouldn't have
believed or creating a paranormal podcast in the first place,
as I had experienced something that was just on toward
to me. And you know, many of the time, you know,
as the years have gone by, you know, I've tried
to reconcile what happened to me and say, oh, it
was just a trick of the light. No, no, it wasn't.
I wouldn't be doing justice to that seven or eight
year old kid who not in your case. But the
hair stood up in my head. But I saw right.
But in answer again to your question, oh, I'd keep
in mind anything, you know, perhaps it was you know,
it's a trapped energy or whatever it is. Lots of
things happen, Richie. You know, you know in traumatic moments,
if anybody's ever been in or close to a car
crash like I was. I was in one and we
were doing about one hundred miles an hour at the time.
Everything slows down. That's why people say I recall it
in slow motion, you know, every the condensing. It's like,
I don't know whether it's frequency or whatever it is
that we're all on certain wavelengths and all. But I
don't want to go off down a dark corner because
people are just going to lose interest in me. But
now I'm not sure what it is, Richie, but I
keep an open mind.
Speaker 7: Here's some interesting messages from our listeners, Patricia Richie. One
that chalk my parents was when I was about five.
I was in my bed going to sleep when an
older man walked into my room, walked around my bed,
and came over. I wasn't afraid at all until he
looked at me and said, hi, Patricia. I ran out
and turned all the lights on. I told my parents
how he looked anyway. They told me later on, some
years later, it was exactly the description of my dad's father,
who passed away before I was born. Now I have
no doubt that's genuine, and I've got another one very
similar to it here if I can bring it up.
This is from keV Richie. I went on a Sunday
drive around the Sperns with my wife some years ago.
We met a man walking on his own who looked
really familiar, but I couldn't place him. Walking along the
side of the road, as Irish people do, I put
the hand up, he didn't react. My wife said, that's
your father. She never met him, had only seen photos
of him. He died in nineteen ninety. Whether I receiving
some sort of message again, there's no way that keV
is not being genuine there. This guy's familiar to me,
I can't place him. The wife says, I think that
was your father. What's going on. I'd love to know
what's going on there, what's happening there, whether that's the
sixty four million dollar question, it's why you're doing the podcast.
Speaker 1: I suppose your guess is as good as mine. But
I mean, I know he's off the maligned. But I'll
just go back to Derek A. Kora if you've ever
heard any interviews with him. I mean, his initial experience
was very much like you're first listener there, the exact
same thing. He was running down the stairs in some
old house that is Nana I think he used to own,
and he came across this guy who said hello to him,
I think, patted them on the head, and he came
downstairs reported it, and you know, they said they weren't
they They apparently they had the gift in the family.
So they said, you know, open up the old photograph
album and sure enough it was his grandfather who had
been some kind of navel man or something like that.
But no, I kicked my mind up, and can I
can I just share two things with you apart from say,
like the big incident that happened in the seventies, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but doo don't want to hear that as well.
Speaker 1: Is that okay? Right? Because one of them is very
recent and as God is my witness, right, here's what happened.
So I'm doing the podcast. I'm trying to sound like
you and being all the brick and I'm trying to
be Terry Wogan whoever, I am right. And you know
when you.
Speaker 7: When you get carried away with your you're the man
with the golden vice? Will you fake off? Go ahead?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: But you know when you when you get carried away
with your own of little importance, and it's not that
it's just that you love doing God, you do this
for nothing, right, So there I was and I had this.
She's a psychic medium. Her name is an I course
making a big play out of it, Rhonda. She's an
American helped me Randa, and she's beautiful and very kind
of how do I put it?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 1: Oh, she's just a big kind of blonde bombshell. And
she's based now in Ireland. I think she lives in Sligo.
Check her out, by the way, what's your name Ronda
Hale dot com? Because she does all kinds of stuff.
So I had her on the show because I thought, well,
here's the angle in American psychic in Ireland, and she'd
gone around all these sites, including as I said to you, Kels,
there's an abbey in Kels in k Kenny, and had
come up with some stuff. So she's been very vivacious
and American and all the rest. But and I'm chatting
away and I'm you know, I can't remember how it
came up, but I you know, I was explaining how
I'd lost my parents and stuff, and I'm going bloody
blah blah blah blah blah blah, not listening, not bloody listening.
And she, you know, at least three times you can
listen back, she goes, you know, Mark, she's here. You know, Mark,
she's here. But Mark was too busy. You're us right, yeah,
But about third time, Lucky I said sorry. She said,
I didn't mean to give you a reading, but your
mother is here, all right. So I kind of went
here we go, but she went she said, your mother
is here, and she said this is what got me.
First of all, she said she's got a little boy
with her. And I went, see you jump to conclusions, Richie.
I lost my brother, who was nine years older than me,
to cancer. Go way back in two thousand and nine,
So I, you know, you want to believe kind And
I went, hold on, you're onto something there. Ronda to
to my mother that would be her little boy, even
though he was like fifty three when past that would
be So she said, it's a boy. But anyway, and
I said, you know, okay, she said your dad is
here as well, and she said, boy, he's, as she
described him, a kick in the pants. And she said
to me, he's stubborn, isn't he. He's a real stubborn.
He's got his little grin on his face and his
arms are folded. Now the Mannings, Richie, are stubborn, right,
It's not the kind of word that I think psychics
just conjure up. And if it was one hell of
a coincidence, what.
Speaker 7: About the image of him standing their arms folded with
a kind of a smirk on his face. Did that
ring a bell?
Speaker 1: He had this wry kind of smile. As I said,
he was a military guy. You know, if you hear
Lebanon recently, dad was in charge of Camp Shamrock out
in Lebanon in the news recently. He was a command
the camp commandant out there. And she was forty years enough,
you know. And and Dad, she said, he wants to say
something to you, and this isn't where I do the
emotional thing. But she said, he says, you know, sorry, son,
I wasn't too approachable when you were younger. But it's
just the way I was brought up. It was different times.
And see, he lost his father, you know. I think
by the time my dad was born, his father had died.
His father, by the way, had got through the trenches
of the First World War founders, wasn't such a short
way to Tipperary, married the local postmistress there and died
of blumen what you call appendicitis, right, So this was
very too much of a coincidence. Okay, now it gets better.
I mean, first of all, she kind of got my
father to a tea with the stubborn bit, you know.
And also the kind of engaging but not engaging, you know,
kind of the match of thing that used to go on.
Speaker 7: And she couldn't have listened to anything about you or
read anything on Facebook or anything. You're pretty sure, no, okay.
Speaker 1: I know that, I know that you. I think back
in the day you did a roost on some one
of these guys or something.
Speaker 7: Wed years ago in Spain. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we get older and wider and so look,
so she had that, right, she had my dad. Right.
We came off the call, and as you know, you do,
you have a little chat with them before and afterwards.
And I said, got you got my brother? And she said,
your brother was fifty something when he passed. I'm telling
you it was a little boy. It was a little boy.
She was insistent, right, Richie. I thought about it in
the days coming afterwards, and I realized my mother told
me when I was about seven that she had a
miss right. She didn't even get into much detail. She said,
you had a brother and he died and we baptized,
We had him baptized. And I remember thinking, what a
weird thing to say, because I was only a kid.
But in reality, you know, and in sympathy, you know,
I think she was still affected. It was probably relatively
recent and she was still traumatized. So that was a
hell of a coincidence. She got my she got my dad,
she got my mom. And then I realized that my
mother had told me, you know, that she'd lost a
little boy years ago.
Speaker 7: So in this instance, then as far as you're concerned.
There's a strong possibility that Ronda was able to receive
messages emotionally or energetically from your mom and dad. You've
got to consider that to be a possibility. I again,
I'm not saying that's exactly what happened, because I don't know.
Years ago, I would have laughed at it. Now I
don't laugh at it because I've had too many experiences,
met too many people who've had something similar happened to them,
has happened to you, So you're open to the possibility
that Mom and are somehow still around.
Speaker 1: I'm open to the possibility Richie, that you know, stuff
exists that we don't understand. Yeah, and before I mean,
I'll just move on to the second story that I
found uncanny, which, by the way, is a TV series.
I don't know if you've seen it. It's fantastic. Yeah good, Yeah,
Oh it's good. At the beautiful color grading and the production. Oh,
it's fantastic. There was another one about which is something
recently as well, beautifully filmed, all drone footage and all that,
just to drool for. But it's not like I go
around chasing, you know, California hippie dream girls but years
before that, I was part of some kind of an
online group and I anyway, I got talking to this
very nice lady. And indeed, if I remember rightly, one
of her talents was she would paint the Oscar statues
for the Oscars every year, you know, the gold statues,
but they're painted golden. That was one of the things
she used to do. But she sent me this amazing
birth chart one time, and if you want to get
into the whole astrology thing, right, and it was very on,
you know, it was remarkable kind of things like the
day why was born? By the way President Kennedy flew
over the house. His arms must have been sore, but
it was like Marine one or something, the helicopter when
on his visit in nineteen sixty three to Ireland. And
so she was she wanted the time, you know, the
time I was born. And anyway, this thing kind of
blew my mind. It was very very when she presented
it to me, it was full of detail. And then
about a year or two later, I thought, I could
you know, amble another reading out for the crack you know,
now she used to charge for these, but she didn't
the first time around, but she probably got a bit
wise to me being tight and you know what, Richie.
She said to me, Look, okay, Mark, I tell you what.
I'm not going to do a whole reading now, but
I have tapped wait till you hear this, I've tapped
into your energy. Right. This is not Ronda. Now, there's
a totally different lady years before. And she said, here's
here's what I found. I can't make sense of it.
And she said to me, I don't want to be
a cycle of recycled revenge. I don't want to follow
Death and all of his Friends. Now that is a
line from a cold Play song called Death and all
of His Friends.
Speaker 7: Yes it is. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Now, here's the thing about I don't know a week
or two beforehand, when I used to do such a
thing as ironing. I was doing it out in the
conservatory by myself, ironing me business shirt or whatever, when
I used to be suited and booted back then. And
I was listening to that Viva de Loca whatever it's
called album, which I detest now because it reminds me
of a particular time in television I did some more.
I love the TV work. But there was a gimp
there that used to play that album all the time.
But yeah, you know the way you get a pig
remember that? Remember that Howard Sperry movie Pig Vomit Paul
do you?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I just keep thinking of him. But anyway, I
was doing the earning right, and I listened to this song.
And I used to fancy myself as a kind of poet,
you know, I still do. I used to write, and
I used to dabble, especially in my forties. You know,
I just got into this thing where I just started
to write and write and write. Now I heard that line,
it resonated with me. I didn't share it with anybody else.
I just remember thinking, God, I wish i'd written that,
And she comes out of the ether with it. So
as I said, it's it's it's about keeping an open mind.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no explaining that away, No there is.
Speaker 1: I didn't even tell me why she wouldn't be interested.
Speaker 7: You know, you can't dismiss that as some sort of coincidence,
or no, you can't. I mean, that's that's really really
strange and beyond fascinating. Really, you'd love to get a
chance to sit down with the lady in question, to
ask her What were you What were you feeling when
you blurted out those two lines? What was going through
your mind?
Speaker 1: You know, she was just amazing. But listen, I've got
one for you that you might like it.
Speaker 7: Just before you do though, it's exactly half six. You're
listening to the Richie Allen Show out of Salford. It's
wonderful of Mark Manning back on the program. It really
is lovely to be speaking to some one from the
old country. Mark is He's done at all in TV
and radio. He's a presenter, he's a teacher, voice over artist,
and he is responsible for He's the man behind Scary Era,
which is in season two. It's a series of podcasts
about the paranormal and Ireland and I really recommend you
check it out. You'll find Mark on x It's at
Mark Manning. Couldn't be simpler YouTube channel. If you look
for Mark Manning you'll find him there. And of course
the links will be on the podcast notes a little
bit later on. And thanks for all your messages. I
will get to them, I promise him. Michael has been
in touch. Great grandmother's son, Michael. I'm trying to think,
what would your great crowd mother's son be to you.
I suppose your grandfather, I suppose was killed in the war.
But after he'd been killed, unbeknowns to anybody else, nobody
knew he was dead. She'd seen him come in, hang
his hat and went upstairs again. You see, people don't
make this stuff up. You know, later on they learned
that the chap has been killed. God love him in action.
But after he'd been killed, he just wandered up the stairs.
Hang on a second, and you're supposed to be overseas
and he's not there at all. He's dead, Thank you, Michael.
It's a few more like that, by the way, mysterious
appearances of somebody who had recently died.
Speaker 1: Yes, and that's kind of unusual. I believe. I can't
remember the name of it, as one of these old houses.
Oh God, isn't county MEI or something like that. But
the same thing happened, and now it was an old
English family and the chap had went off to war.
He was killed in the First World War, but he
appeared at the lakeside in Ireland and the groundsman and
sew him. Somebody will will remember what that is. But
here's one for you, and that's not dismissing for a
minute all these great listeners that are sharing stuff with us.
I just thought you and I could relate to this. Okay,
here we go and you give me make me you
big me up, Richie. But to be honest, I'm a
kind of jack of all, master of none. The voiceover
has been good to me. Right, So I go all
the way back to the Pirates right in in Ireland.
And don't worry, I'm not going off in a radio one.
Speaker 7: Right, but I go.
Speaker 1: I go back to the radio Dublins, which by the way,
is supposedly had a ghost called Ermatrude, if I remember rightly.
But what I want to encapsulate with yourself is that
whole thing of being the late night DJ, which was
you know, a lot of the management have go you
put them on the graveyard shift kind of stuff, you know,
and we all knew they were saving money on security
by having us in there, of course, But however, you
can't buy that kind of time and that kind of
sharing of humanity in the wee small hours. I remember
one like getting an amazing call, but it would only
be gone off on a tangent now to talk about it.
So I think it was episode two we had you
might remember this name, Bernie Jemison came on.
Speaker 7: Bernie Jemison and Joseph.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bernie Jefferson started out on Radio Dublin way back
with myself, so that you know, that would place her
late seventies, very early eighties. And she is a beauty.
She is an absolute lady. And you named the station
she's been on it. She is a professional to her fingertips, okay,
And she was on what was at the time and
it was a failed entity called you might recall Radio Ireland. Yeah,
remember Radio Ireland. And you know, you try and get
into the place. You keep on knocking, but like enough,
you know, keep keeping knocking, but you can't get in
through this anarish joke. So you know, you know, you
send it in your I remember sending in a cassette
tape and the PD, the program director is saying to me,
thanks for that. I didn't notice still did those? You know,
such a snotty yo, So I'd be trying to get
into Radio Ireland. But she was in there, okay. And
this was in Jervis Street, which was in the Environs.
It's just off O'Connell Street, the environs of what was
for many years Jervis Street Hospital, So you probably know
this kind of coming up to her graveyards. You know,
everything goes pretty much on auto right, so they can
auto fade the playout software, so essentially you think someone's
on air, but nobody's there, right. But she would because
she had to do the live broadcast and mus time
and keep an eye on the clock as well. Rich
So she would hear this kind of like a lullaby,
lullaby thing and it would ebb and flow, and she
kept it to herself for a while, and it was
always kind of late night, this thing. It seemed to
come through the wall, you know, kind of I don't know,
serial or whatever. Very lightened and ephemerald. There's two big
words for you, you know, quick in out, thin, veiled,
all that stuff, but eerie and sometimes maybe perhaps I
might be egging it a bit here, but I think
a baby crying or someone singing to a baby. She
kept it to herself, and then she spilled the beans
one time and someone else went, you're not the only one, Bernie.
I've heard that as well. So she's beautiful. The whole story,
by the way, is on I think episode two a
scary era. By the way, if you go Mark Manning Media,
that's a catch all for all the platforms you just
mentioned Mark Manning Media. Put that word media in. And
by the way, Jervis Street again very quickly, did you
used to be a hospital there? And I heard the
story was I was probably chatting her up at the time,
a nurse way back in the eighties, and she said,
oh yeah, Jervis Street. She said, you know, we've She said,
I was in there one night. It was a guy
dying and the priest was around them given the last rites,
and she said he rose up, he levitated, you know,
a few feet above the bed as the rights were
being given, and then it's almost like somebody just put
them back down again to react to it, you know,
Richie hit the bulls eye there. I've had a priest
on and his name is Michael Collins of all names right,
only recently, and he's claimed even though he's been present
when people have been ill mentally and all kinds of stuff.
Never they answer your question. I don't know. I didn't ask.
I just kind of got the creeps when she said
that to me. But on the flip side of that
one funny.
Speaker 7: Michael talked to you about exorcisms, didn't he He did,
but you know, we.
Speaker 1: All want the juicy stuff with the head spinning around
and all that. But no, he wasn't playing ball. It's
it's kind of you might remember a book called The
Divide Itself, and it's it's almost he reckons. It's the mind,
as the good and the evil are probably at battle
with each other, and it's a matter of making the
you know layman's terms, but the good to overcome the
evil aspect of you. You know, he said, he, yeah,
he was at places where people were obviously very disturbed,
but he couldn't you know, he couldn't give me the
whole Well.
Speaker 7: Can I jump in there, because that's fascinating. I interviewed
a guy called Father Vince Lampert about three times over
the years. And you'll probably know Vince is he's the
Vatican's exorcist in America, at least in at least on
the eastern seaboard of America. And interviewed Vince lovely, lovely gentleman,
And of course I challenged him, you know, pretty hard.
I said, come on, we're talking about mental disturbances. And
serious psychological illnesses, and he said, of course. He said,
you know, many times you'll be taken to a place
because the family is religious, and you realize that you
don't really have any business being there because the person
is suffering from psychological illness of one kind or another.
But then he said, there are the other times when
you're confronting demons. And there was nothing about the guy's
conversation with me that I found to be insincere or false.
There was nothing in it for him. And he recounted
a couple of stories that were fairly you can make.
We'll joke again about my pollically challenged dome, but you know,
stories that would raise the hairs on the back of
your neck where he said he was convinced he was.
We're talking about a face changing shape and guttur a language,
and even foreign tongues, and not just gobbledygook now, but
actual languages coming out of a person. And he had
to deal with that. And he explained to me that
you draw the demon out through the top of the head,
or not the demon, the attachment, whatever it is. And
I believed him, not because I wanted to believe in
I'm a skeptic. At least I felt that he had
at least he believed what he was.
Speaker 1: Telling me, which man accomplished, you know, in his craft.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Now, no, it doesn't mean that what he felt
he experienced actually happened. That's another thing entirely. But at
least that was his understanding of it, and I found
that to be in I've got to read some more messages, mate,
because our listeners are loving this, so thank you for them.
A listener's been in touch to say it's Wayne saw
an apparition as a child, woken late at night to
the sound of church bells, but the bells weren't actually ringing.
A little girl in white and bathed in a white
glow was on the grass outside my bedroom window upon
opening the court, and the second time she was now
suspended outside my window looking in. And then he had
another experience at a holistic center above a market, when
something else very strange happened. He would sit in the
main room facing a small hallway. A therapy room was
to the right. People who looked as though they were
looking around would cross the doorway as if they were
going into therapy. When I got up to look there
wouldn't be anybody there. There was only one ex that
says Wayne, There's so many of these. I wish I'd
experienced something myself. I have never experienced anything at all.
Alexandra was on was in London twenty years ago. Partner
worked and lived on a construction site near central London.
The building used to be a vicarage where a priest
used to live. Unbeknownst to my partner, he invited his
best friend and a relative from Poland to join him
at the construction place. All three of them started experiencing
strange things in the house, like weird cold feelings. At
a specific point, near the staircase, metal parts of the
library shelves began moving at night, making a horrible noise.
And then my partner lost consciousness while in the bathroom
and later woke up to find scratches on his body.
Oh wow, portergeist, Oh poltergeist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had the story of the Cooneen poltergeist there
recently as well. It's happened in nineteen thirteen. I think, sorry, Rich, no, no, this.
Speaker 7: Is brilliant because it leads in perfectly to that episode, which.
Speaker 1: Can I try something here? Just just I'm going to
ask if you hear this now, because if you do,
we're on a winner. Just don't worry. I'm not putting
the trick on.
Speaker 7: No, no, I'll say nothing. I'm silent.
Speaker 1: I'm going to put a monitor on here. No, okay,
all right, what I had lined up for you, but
because of this freaking Skype thing is but your listeners
can go on if they want anyway, if they go
Scary era EVP rights. These are electronic voice phenomena. I
had a few of them that were given to me
by investigators and they're pretty amazing. One or two you'd
say that Scooby Doo contrived, right, But when you know
the person you're dealing with and you trust them implicitly
and you know they've verified themselves over not only that,
you insult them if you keep slagging them off, because
you know they take their their work very very seriously.
If I can just name a couple of these right,
very quickly. So you've got Down and Cork. You've got
Cork a Supernatural Society with Matthew Clark. He's given some
great EVPs. So this is when you hear the voices
you know, and usually they hear them when they come
back after the investigation. They don't hear them at the time.
Institu he's there. And up in the northeast we have
Jenny Sullivan. She's provided me with the EVPs as well.
You know there was one there was mad. It's a
real pity. Now this didn't kick in tonight for you,
but well we'll do hopefully we'll talk again.
Speaker 7: And and I came across this mark years ago, did
you hear it. Yeah, I came across this yeah, where
I met some people who had been using tape recorders
to tape to basically record empty rooms and places where
where it was alleged things that happened. So it's a
bit like that scene in the sixth Sense when Bruce
Willis comes back and turns up the tape and then
he realizes that the kid is really haunted. He's really
being visited by ghosts Hailey Joel Osmond. But I met
people who use tape recorders in rooms and then listen
back to them, turned them up real high, and you
could hear voices and stuff like that. That is freaky stuff.
Speaker 1: That No, it is freaky stuff, and some of it
some of it is explainable though as well. I remember
one of the very first things I read about as
a teenager, being a bit of an old army barmie,
you know. So I was reading this report and it
was about the Cold War. So there were the Yanks
and the Brits were on maneuvers down and I don't know,
Saxony somewhere in Germany anyway, so you can imagine this
was NATO time. So these guys are all in, you know,
you know, suited and boots and kitted up to the hilt.
They're driving along in there. I don't know what they had,
Cromwell tanks or whatever. They were right booting along on
maneuvers and this bridge shot. The officer, of course, he's
in the turret and he's listening away, and you know,
the sergeant so and so is driving along, and you know,
these guys have got little radio sets on. And you
mentioned guttural earlier on R Yes, so these voices started
coming through the through their headsets. This fascinates me as well.
A big into sound and you know minus twenty hertz
and all that stuff where you hear like submarines on anyway,
So hearing all these like this garble essentially very guttural,
very military, and he said, I didn't realize any of
our you know, German allies were in on this maneuver
with us. And you know the guys are looking blankly,
but they're not, sir, what's going on. One of them
was able to speak German. He said, I'm listening. These
were World War two intercepts, right. This was some ss
VERMAC divisions, you know, calling out the orders thirty or
thirty years beforehand. Right, So what had happened was I
think they were in a valley and the original transmissions
the signals had somehow again we're going back to being
replayed under certain atmospherics, you know, we're bouncing about, so
like you know, in the middle of the Cold War,
like World War Two was being relived kind of stuff.
Speaker 7: And that is phenomenal. I mean, that is a phenomenon,
isn't it that such a thing could actually happen. So
it wasn't something from beyond the grave. It was that again,
some echo, some recording of it in some way that
we really don't understand had actually happened. So it was
always there. That's have I gotten that right? If I
understood that? Yeah, that's amazing. Will you hear this from Luke. Luke,
like many pet owners, was devastated when his cat passed
away because she had cancer and he wasn't allowed to
spend her last moments with her when she was euthanized
because of the bastard COVID restrictions. John Waters is right.
They should be horsewhipped. Horsewhipped, all of them, so, he
says Luke. He says, look, look, I tried the number
of psychics to see if I could contact the cat,
who he called eazy, but all of them were ridiculous.
But then remembered my ex used to talk about a
psychic she used to go to. So I contacted the psychic.
Now the woman knew nothing about me or that I
was wanting to contact Izzy the cat. Nothing. As soon
as she picked up the phone to speak with me,
she said to me, I have a cat here who
was very happy that you have kept some of her
four in a tub under the bed. Now, Richie says Luke,
that was totally true. She then asked me, She said
she wanted to know who's the black cat. And I
literally had a black cat follow me home a couple
of nights previous, and I was looking after Horror until
I could hopefully find her owner, which I eventually did.
So not only did you know about Eazy, but she
knew that I was kind of kind of a surrogate
owner to another cat while we were trying to locate
the owner, and she told me other things about Izzy
that she couldn't possibly have known. It's amazing to me that.
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, I sympathize with you because of me. And
by the way, Richie, you know when somebody said something
like that, I mean, I do listen to it, and
it's if I come back to you. It's not like,
oh I want to go on better than you. Right, So,
just I would like to say to Luke, I mean,
I've got two cats. One hates me, hates me, the
other is lovely right now, because.
Speaker 7: Why do you put up with the cat that hates you?
I can't understand that.
Speaker 1: You know, she has reason, she's a long memory. But
I you know, I had to remove her with a
brush one time. It's sweet and brush. When she came first.
She she kept hiding behind the couch. We had her
there about six weeks, but like the stink a kitty letter,
you had to remove her. She loves everyone else. She
even loves like my daughter has a boyfriend in or something,
she'll she'll be there looking at me, going I like him,
but I don't like you, you know. But anyway, here's
a quick one just for for Luke alongst the similar lines.
So we had a cat special by the way, so
do check that with scary air as well. So when
the other guy that loves me right, Marvin arrived a
brother called Professor Puss, and Professor was one of these
was one of these long I know it gets worse,
pussy galore here Rich anyway, so I had this guy,
Professor Puss was the other cat, and he used to
go upstairs into a converted attic we have which I
originally started my voice over working, and he'd go under
a bed. So my wife is she's not to be
a mester, which she's from Belfast, you know what I mean,
Like every so often herself and the girls get together
down here, and even though she's been here forty years,
he still has that metallic accent. And she said, that
bloody cat, I think he might be under one of
the bails upstairs. Will you ever go up and remove
him in case he freaks out one of the girls.
You know now what I used to regularly do this.
I go up, I get Professor Puss, I bring him down.
But I had an awful habit and look look I
put my hand up, but it was just you know,
when you're being in the just a sheer divlment. Right.
You might remember I don't consider myself Michael Jackson, but
remember he kind of he hung his kid out over
the window of a hotel one time.
Speaker 7: Did indeed?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now I did it on a micro scale
now before people horse with me. Right, So I've been
coming down this little stairs that'll wind these stairs, and
with Professor Pus nice just kind of hang them over
the edge for a micro second, and he'd always go wow,
you know, And that's just is just how I got
making them sad, you know, middle aged kid. You know,
I never would hurt them, for God's sake, but I mean,
I just just it was the kind of habit. And
you know, haha, I got the risey at that time
that night it was a dirty old Friday Dublin like
last night kissing rain, forgive my vernacular. And you know, anyway,
I had Professor Puss and here, come on, I don't
want you freaking out the girls and then I did
my usual put them over the banister. Nothing. Professor Puss
just hung there inert and then I went do it again.
You know, definitely Professor Puss kind of went just just
hanging there. So I mean, why I cuddled them. I say,
all right, ye, you know you're all right, old son.
Speaker 7: Something.
Speaker 1: I took him down forgot all about him. He was
killed by a car that night. It was almost like
he knew. You know, that sounds fanciful. That was the
first time he had ever done that. And you know,
I've been up to the DSPCA would bread a burden
appropriate enough name lovely lady up there the interviewer for
radio years ago. And you know, cats and stuff and
dogs they go bananas at certain conditions like full moons
and stuff, so they have they have sensitivity.
Speaker 7: We don't remember, I tell you we when it's well
known now that eleven or so years ago Caroline and
myself lived with David with David Ike in London for
a year and we had a German shepherd at the time.
She passed away a couple of years ago. Her name
was Jazz, beautiful animal, wonderful animal, very timid. But then
She used to obsess over David's hands. And anybody who
knows anything about David Ike will know that David's football
career was cut short boy room with toyd arthritis and
he was crippled by it. And even to this day
he would have days where his hands would really really
play up on him. Now that David has access to
because of the nature of the work he's involved in,
he has access to knowledge about certain things he can
do to alleviate the pain in his hands, of course,
but there were times when his hands would kind of
be gnarled and they would gnarl in and Jazz would
climb up on the sofa and would lick and nurture
his hands for fifteen twenty twenty five minutes, and David
used to make us laugh.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: We were like the Threes Company. We were like a
sitcom and we would always fake you on, you know,
because David would say something, well, obviously rich Jazz can
see the energy, and we would fake you on, you know,
af fuck off, you know what I mean, kind of
a thing for the laugh. But then I believe he
was right. Jazz could see what we couldn't see. We
couldn't see into his hand, but she could see in
there and could see that the energy was all messed
up and she was trying to do something about it.
I have no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and apparently as well, certain dogs they can
sniff cancer.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's a that's an established factor, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yah amazing the show called Lucas Bulls right b o
Ls and believe it or not, he's actually part of
the family of the Bulls family, and that the drinks family,
the drinks people. Yeah, and he's lovely guy, beautiful guy. Oh, Richard,
you love him. He's into he's a film he's a
film director. He does a lot of commercials and stuff.
So he was. You know, by the way, any when
anyone listening when we say it's sky scary era e
I or e which is the Gaelic for Ireland.
Speaker 7: And Manning media, you need to look up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, plugs in there. But you know what I'm saying is,
you know, don't bar anybody just because they're not Irish
from coming on this show. I love international interludes. I
mean I've had the guy Billy Kirkwood, comedian on from Scotland.
Great guy did a beautiful read for me as well.
But all and sound effects too, but Lucas bulls. One
of the things as well as an amazing World War
two story he told me, was that fact about dogs.
You know they were employed even to kind of sniff
out cancers and stuff. So it does exist, you know,
As I said, I just once you keep an open mind. Sure,
who would have thought half the things that were going
through recently would have ever happened? You would have had
your head examined.
Speaker 7: You would Yeah, I'm going to read you one more
message from Grace go. When I was thirteen, Richie, I
had an awful nightmare. My cousin, who had blonde hair female,
was in a car accident with her boyfriend. He was Turkish,
so I had this stream I was thirteen. They died.
It was incredibly vivid. She was in a dark car
in a tunnel with bright white lights all in a row.
I ran into my mom and dad's room and said
that Leanne that was her name, was in a terrible
car accident. They calmed me down, said it was a
bad dream. The next morning we woke to the news
that Princess Diyana had died in a car accident, and
it was pretty much the exact same image I had
seen in my bad dream. That that's interesting, isn't it.
That's very interesting. I'm going to be talking about something
next week, which, for the bloody life of me, I
can't remember off the top of my head. But it
is some research that is currently it's in its twenty
fifth or twenty sixth year by Stanford University, and it's
looking into global consciousness and how when certain things happen
in the world that cause a really emotional reaction amongst
millions of people, how that emotional reaction can impact on
physical systems. It's amazing, isn't it. Stanford University been doing
it for years and I knew nothing about it until recently.
And apparently what they do is they put these instruments
around the world which generate random numbers and things, and
they'll just tick along generating the random numbers. But sometimes
when really really very emotional things up in a landslide
or an earthquake that kills thousands of people, or a
crazy terrorist attack, these systems will go haywire and they reckon.
It's because of the emotional, energetic outpouring of people. And
I'm gonna be talking about that. Next week, I'm going
to give you the final word, by the way, because
we're we're banging out of time. Mark Manning is Burniet.
I'm gonna ask Mark to come back on against soon
to pick up this very conversation. Scary Era is the podcast.
It's terrific. Check it out and I'll put the links on.
But you need only look for Mark Manning Media and
you'll find Mark on on X. That was a blast,
by the way, and it's also very important because these
are important questions to be asking and talking about these subjects,
because there's far more to their reality than we can see, smell,
taste and touch. That's my opinion. Anyway, final word to you.
It's been brilliant Mark, Thank.
Speaker 1: You, it's been fantastic, and thank you so much. It's
been tremendous. And thanks so much, Richie, because I know
it's funny, like you know, when you retweet me, it's
like I have this up that nobody goes into, and
then when I retweet, it's suddenly like it's like an
American marching band comes through when you do it and
you see the spike, you're very kind. Then I'm left
to wonder at my empty shop again, but really quickly.
If people want to get in touch and be on
the show, email Paranormal Ireland at ProtonMail dot com. That's
Paranormal Ireland at ProtonMail dot com.
Speaker 7: Thanks again, Richie, give over and enjoy the rest of
the evening and let's do it again really soon, let's
follow it up. I could tell Mark there's at least
thirty messages with stories and accounts experiences people have had.
I'd love to get into them again soon with Mark
on the program. Mark Manning Media, you have been listening
to the Irish Act Tour voice over artists, radio presenter,
a teacher and podcast host Mark Manning. It was brilliant
having him on. Thanks Mark, lovely departure that from hard news.
I want more of them and I do mean when
I see these are important subjects and topics to discuss.
Back tomorrow with five. I'm to get right out now
with Steve Winwood five o'clock tomorrow, Thursday's program. You enjoyed
the rest of your Wednesday from the BBG in Salford,
It's over and out, Pine out. Thanks again, Mark. Bye.
Speaker 1: Yeah's yet again. That's a display of the brilliant Richie
Allen at work master broadcaster. You see, he spoke into
the intro of the song, but he didn't crash the vocals.
He literally a microsecond away from the vocals stopped. That's
known as riding the music. My thanks to Richie Allen
for today's show, as well of course as the lovely
help Me Rhonda Hale, which indeed she did so long
it's been real. May your God go with you and
I'll see you soon again, I hope. On scary era
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