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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best

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in paranormal talk radio in the UK and around the world.

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Scary Era Era is the Irish or Gaelic word for Ireland.

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Paranormal means all the things that are impossible to explain

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by non natural forces or by science, and Ireland is

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steep and lower ghosts, blood, sweat, tears, sacrifice, hunger, desperation

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and charm. Oh and the paranormal. Welcome to Scary Era,

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Mark Manning. Yeah, well, at least it's got your attention.

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Speaker 2: I am a paranormal darlings.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while, Yes, indeed, welcome along to Scary

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Era Season two, episode five and talking about all things

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paranormal in the Emerald dial So what have you been

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up to? Hey, can't really hear you, So that means

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I'd be telling you what I've been up to. Well,

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in Ireland and England for the guts of two weeks now,

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the sun has been absolutely splitting the skies, as we

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say in Gaelic ove young Greenitan. So it's been beautiful.

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I actually sat outside yesterday and listened to some really

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spiritual music and took in some UV rays while missus

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Manning summed herself with her sister in the Mediterranean. But

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we won't mention that, will we. She's got this thing

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when she goes away on holidays, she likes to think

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that it's raining back in Ireland. That gives her some

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kind of perverse pleasure. But I had to disappoint her

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this time. Oh Francis, yes, you're just missing like some

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of the best weather we've ever had. I'm sure you'll

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be delighted to know. Well. Earlier on in the series

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I met with you might recall the very lovely American

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psychic in Ireland called Ronda Hale, and I got so

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much material out of her that day. In fact, you're

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going to hear it referred to later in this show

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when I replay an interview I did with a very

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brilliant Richie Allan show Richie Allen of same. She gave

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me a reading during that interview which we hadn't arranged,

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and it had to do with my late mother and

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father who just kind of came on the scene. I

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know this sounds out out there, but bearwith just came

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on the scene during the interview, and she was remarkably accurate,

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and even more so as I thought about it later.

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So if you listen to what we're gonna hear, which

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is part two of the rohnda Hale Interview, where she

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recalls her visits psychic and otherwise around Ireland. Because you'll

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find her on rohnda Hale dot com. She's a very

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brilliant psychic medium as well as other things. But you'll

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find her on the Paranormal Resident channel on YouTube run

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by a lovely guy called Kiron who befriended Rhonda and

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shows her all around Ireland where she reflects on her findings.

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That's where we're going to be talking about in just

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a minute's time, so listen up. Okay, then we'll have

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Richie Allen and his interview with wah yours truly as

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to all things strange and wonderful and bizarre and and

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just what makes me tick in that sense. Oh, hang on, coffee,

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I'm gonna I need it, but I drink too much

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of it, so I'm gonna ease off it. I've got

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a month to go until i'm stateside for a bit,

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and I'm going to try and ease off the coffee

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until then. Please get in touch with the show if

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any of this resonates with you Paranormal Ireland at ProtonMail

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dot com.

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Speaker 2: What is it, Loland, that's the one right, It's time

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to join my Ronda in a found call that we

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had together some months ago. Oh oh is it Roonda?

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Speaker 1: And I?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: Ever? Can I just touch on some of the places

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that you've been in Ireland before? Before? Before I do?

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I just want to say what you might have mentioned

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it already, but what location spoke to you or had

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the biggest impression on you within Ireland?

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Speaker 3: Probably Left Castle? I think cool?

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Speaker 1: You know what? So far it's running at about nine

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people in your camp and one person saying he felt

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nothing whatsoever. So talk to me about Left Castle. I

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have seen the video by the.

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Speaker 3: Way, Oh yeah, okay, Well I didn't know where I

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was going because Kiran decided whenever we would do anything

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that he just wouldn't tell me where we were going.

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he was filming me and a lady came through with

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this beautiful raven hair and like a red just beautiful

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beautiful woman come through and so right off when I

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told him that, and I said, there's a man with her.

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was a father or whatever. So immediately even before I

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got to Left Castle, you know, that was he said, well,

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you're right on point. I'm not going to tell you what,

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and I'm not going to tell you how, but you're

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very much on point. So when we got there, it

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was kind of crazy because and I, like, again, I

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knew nothing about the history, and honestly, I haven't even

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looked up before after the thing was passed, I haven't

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looked up the history of Left Castle. I just knew

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that later that it was referred to as a like

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a bloody massacre that happened in the top floor later,

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but nobody knows why. I guess people have their theories,

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but I'm convinced I know exactly why. And it was

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it's in the video because some of the people came

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through and started telling me a story of a love

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triangle and how it ended so badly and so tragically

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and awful, you know, in that massacre. But that was

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pretty intense because when I guess the reason that just

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hit me so hard was that when I was on

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the second floor of the castle, I kept feeling above me.

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I kept feeling like a wedding was happening or something's

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happening up above me, so he says, okay, let's just

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get up there. When we got up there, that's when

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the whole thing unfolded and I got the communication from

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the priest who was the brother of the man who

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did the murder on the massacre, and he ended up

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telling me the love story the triangle, and that, I

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guess really just made my heart ache for all of them.

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I had so much compassion for each and every one

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of those people, each all three of them. I guess

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it's very heartbreaking. That's why it sticks with me. But

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a lot of other locations, like the battlefield location, that

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was pretty intense. Akram Battlefield, Yeah, that was really really intense.

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Because I have sensory all six senses or five senses.

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I have six cents five human senses were very acutely awake.

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Was the smell and not just the visual, but all

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of it on the Auckland battlefield. But then again, if

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I bounced over to the Rock of Cathleen, the invasion

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that happened there and the wedding that that happened on

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the day that it happened, that bride that came through

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and I could chase the orange blossoms that she had chewed.

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She chewed on some orange blossoms. I didn't know this,

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but she told me that she did it for freshening

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and sweetening up her breast on the wedding day. And

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so I just kept chasing these tastes in my mouth.

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I'm like, what is that? And then pretty soon she

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came through and told me her story about the master

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that happened there on the Rock of Cashle on her

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wedding day, and who she was marrying, and and who

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the invasion you know, our favorite invader from England it

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was with Cromwell came through on that day. And just

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how absolute we ruthless, and the timing and the person

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who told and I don't know that is such a

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tough question. Mark. That's one of the things I love

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about Ireland is having come here and it's just the

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tip of the iceberg. There's so much more I want

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to explore. And it's funny too because at one of

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the locations someone came through and Kieren hadn't didn't have

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it filming that time, and we were just talking and

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someone came through and it was Catherine. Someone came through

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from England and said that they wanted me to come

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see something in England and I wrote it down and

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I have it all down. But Catherine Swinford came through

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and it was at a location where we were. I

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think it was the Donegal. I think because I saw

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these little rose it these engravings of the pattern of

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roses on the fireplace, and I was like, wait a minute,

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that's English, this is English. And then I looked up

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at the this like hanging light fixture and it was

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a it looked like a wagon wheel. And when as

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soon as I looked out, that's when Captain Swinford came

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That's my wagon wheel. And I was like, who are you?

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you to see my estate on Swinford. I want you

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to know my story, and she started telling me a

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little bit about her story. So just being able to

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be resident here in Ireland and know that there's so

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much more that is I've never given the opportunity to explore. Still,

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I'd like to explore historical spots, because Ireland's history is

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so tied and in a convoluted way with the history

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of the UK and the conquerors and the takeovers and

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the fight and the struggles for independence, et cetera. It's

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so rich in history, and so I would really love

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to explore even more. I just I love being I

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couldn't choose the place. It's hardly to choose the place

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really that resonates with me more Mark, I wish I

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could give you a location.

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Speaker 1: Can I run one more by you? Kell's Priory, County

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kill Kenny.

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Speaker 3: Trying to remember Kell's prairie.

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Speaker 1: It was like big but maybe four big towers on

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either side. It's very flat walls. I think there had

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been two invasions there, one of the eleven hundreds, another

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Speaker 3: Kell Prior, Oh yeah, oh my god, Kell's Priory, Holy

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Kenolly is that the one where there had been two invasions?

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picking up on anyway, was really unexpected, maybe from like

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the north, like maybe from Scotland. Yeah, possibly, okay, okay, yes, yes, yes, yeah,

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I remember that. I remember that. Oh that was something else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know why I might just ask you

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about Kell's priory, but all your antenna up, you don't

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Speaker 3: Oh I do? I'm go ahead and ask me. No,

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I could. I don't know why you're asking me.

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Speaker 1: I was just wondering what you pick up on it.

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my radius, afarease.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a connection there yourself personally just from

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Speaker 1: Most people, No, I didn't know. Most people think of

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County Kels as is in me the famous, world famous

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Book of Kels. But there is a little area which

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Rhonda and myself have just been talking about called Kells

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in County kill Kenny, and it features a big priory.

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Your video resonated with me again again. All the videos

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for American Medium in Ireland appear on Paranormal Resident YouTube channel. Yeah,

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it was amazing place. I was amazed myself at it.

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title in yours was American Sick to the stomach or

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something gets a feeling. Yeah, I remember reading somewhere or

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it might have been on YouTube. Some guy had such

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a bad experience, a bad trip if you like. Yeah, yeah,

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out there at night that he never ever revisited anything

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in connection with the paranormal. He got such a fright.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it was, you know what I

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want to tell you that I'm just remember, you know,

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when I was there at Kel's Priory, when I first

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came you where it went onto the main, main, main

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area where all the life and activity was going. When

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we went to this small little chapel kind of area

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where I felt like there was an energy of a

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lot of white energy, which is like protective feeling. I

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kept feeling fire coming up on my neck. I felt

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just so much heat around my neck. After we left there,

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I told Kiran that I felt like I was being

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burned at a steak wow. I felt like that flames

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were looking up on me. And then later he told

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me that there had been a witch burning there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Alice Kittler, I think now she wasn't she escaped

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to England, but she was this witch character in County

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Cokenny in medieval times, and it was a revelation to

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me that she was tried in the priory. She was putting.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she was there ever a witch burning there, because

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that's what after we left, I definitely felt like I

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I was being burned, but yeah, if she had, it

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and she might be. There was very few burning at

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the stakes in Ireland, in Europe and in Scotland they

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were ten a penny. In England they would hang or

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on the show, Lovely Lady, Yvonne Lawton, from down in Yorlan,

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County Cork, recently and sheld say to me, yet there

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were a handful of burning at the stakes, but nothing

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on the scale of abroad, because the Irish always have

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had this kind of affinity of walking in tandem with

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its spirit and understanding that there's a yeah beyond the

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veil if you like.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it was just the flames looking up from I

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felt like there had been fires there, but you could

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be wrong. Maybe maybe that's it was. I don't know,

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but boy, I'll tell you. I remember it was so

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hot on nan Yak. It was like, oh my gosh,

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this is really uncomfortable. You know.

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Speaker 1: Well, look Randa Hale of Rhondahale dot Com. Anywhere else I.

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Speaker 3: Get you, Yeah, you can find me on Instagram, and

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that would be help me, Help me Randa Official. Actually,

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how you can find me on on Instagram, but the

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just by my website, which is my name r h

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Rondehale dot com and there's a contact me button if

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you need to reach out. I'm a certified to hypnotherapist.

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I have seven certificates and I one of my most

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one that I got. I'm a Level two practitioner in QHHT,

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which is the method that was yes, so I would

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then twenty twenty happened and the shutdown happened, so I

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never did actually get the paper. But it's just absolutely astounding.

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and it's absolutely mind boggling when it when it clicks

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into place and when it's happening, it's unbelievable, unbelievable things.

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Speaker 1: And named the accreditation you just mentioned, the the.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's not easy. And I've that's my

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Speaker 1: I have.

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Speaker 3: It's in medical and clinical as well as past life regression.

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the reviews I've got with my on Google you can

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find me with empowered hypnotherapy. But with that, I think

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that it does help to be a psychic medium because

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or their sister or their brother or whoever, will come

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through and say, hey, they're not telling you this, but

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they did have trauma at this time and this happened

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here and da da da dah. So I can guide

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them and say, okay, let's go to age seven, where

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are you what's happening, And then healing can start being

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you know, it just cleaned up, and new neural pathways

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Speaker 1: Well, Robney, Rhonda, I would say to you that on

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the one hand, I envy you your gift, and because

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from what I've seen today it's very uncanny I've heard today,

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I'm still a bit reading over, if I'm honest with you.

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at times you probably do you ever have a crisis

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of conscience with something you've picked up on somebody?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Moral dilemma? Essentially, does that happen?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I can't. Yeah, I can't believe

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you're bringing that up, but yeah, yea that it is nauseating.

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you know I do. I do establish very very strong boundaries,

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so I always feel safe and protected. You could take

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me to a broken down ruin where the criminally insane

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were kept, and that would be a very scary place

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to go, but I wouldn't be afraid for me, for

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my spiritual faithy or anything like that. However, when I'm

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out and about and I'm not trying to channel anything,

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and someone will k past me and I will get

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a full video tape glimpse of something that they just

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did or they're thinking about doing, and that is chilling.

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Speaker 1: I'd say it is, but in your defense, I mean,

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on the one hand, you know, let's say somebody walks

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by you and you're aware of something horrific intent, a

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horrific event or intent.

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or they practice on a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: And I suppose you know of Rhonda wants to run

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to the police and say this, Oh God, yeah, but

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as part of Ronda as well, should calm down and say,

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listen Ronda for a start, The chances are it's not

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going to be admissible in a court of laws exactly.

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close that could drive you mad, you know.

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scary is that you think about when you go to

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like a zoo where there's tigers and lions and deadly

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animals like predators behind glass and you can watch them

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in a habitat, When this kind of clarity comes through

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walking just walking past someone and you're like, holy, can

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only I didn't want to know that about them? You

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realize there's no habitat you can keep them in there's

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no they're just rolling free. That is terrifying. And then

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immediately all I do is find out light of protection

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to whoever they may come across, for their guides to

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protect them. Just like when I was little, when I

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had my guide say, you know, if I could actually

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see them and say, oh no, don't go over there,

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stay over here, don't go over there, say over here.

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apparent to anybody who could be victimized by that thing.

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you must come across quite a few wolves in sheep's clothing.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. But when that starts happening, the

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of the stage. If you were burning a lot of stage,

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I try to keep my energy very pristine, very high frequency,

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Speaker 4: It too much.

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Speaker 3: It's just that sometimes when you have your paths crossed

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with somebody or like I mean, even though I could

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be watching television or something and you'll get a glimpse

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of something, but I just pull away and say, listen,

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that's not what I want to tap into. So thanks

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for showing me that. But I don't need to see anymore.

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Speaker 1: You could be at a party and be introduced to

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someone's grandfather, oh yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: You go, oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: He looks like a lovely wor there's original change, but

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he's a freakin' ex World War two Yep savage.

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Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely absolutely. And that's happened to my daughter many many, many,

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many many times too, won't you.

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Speaker 1: It's not her name though, I like, I love you. Yeah, well, listen,

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it's been an absolute pleasure and a revelation, a revelation

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to talk to you. Revelation. Rhonda from Ronda Hail dot

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com is not the best place to get you at or.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ronda hill dot com is a very easy place

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because then you can just email me and my numbers

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on her too. You can even text me on WhatsApp whatever.

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I work with people all over the world and and

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so if anybody needs to connect, just connect with me, and.

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Speaker 4: I'll put this out there that, you know, the opportunity

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to be able to explore new locations, if that opportunity

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ever came up and someone ever wanted to sponsor something

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like that, I would.

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Speaker 1: Be amenable to it. Fantastic, Yeah, Ronda, that's great. Well,

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this goes out all over the world, so you know

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it'd be nice to beat the bushets for you. And

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you came up trum.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of things over the years. But I've learned,

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well I don't. I suppose it's not learned. I've just

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become accustomed to it. And I think it's kind of

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it's it's maybe it's another sense or something. But often

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when you go into places, you'll get a feeling for

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the place, and you'll get a feeling of whether or

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not it's comfortable. And whatever cause is that. Who knows

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what causes that. But we have an intuition. We have

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an inbuilt intuition. I can't describe what it is or

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where it comes from, or the physics of it or

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the chemistry of it, but it's there. And anybody will

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will tell you to stick with your intuition. If you

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think something doesn't feel right, then don't hang around.

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Speaker 6: Superb advice from regular contributor to Scary Era, David McGlynn

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aka the Squire, And don't hang around either. If you've

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got an Irish paranormal tale to tell. Simply email Paranormal

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Ireland at proton mail dot com and it'll be read

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out for you before you get to tell it on

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air yourself. That's Paranormal Ireland at proton male dot com.

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Speaker 1: Manning, hope you're enjoying scary era in whatever wee corner

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of the universe I find you in. Now, my next

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guest is me. Ah, there's a twist. But however, I

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would like to tell you about the gentleman who is

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interviewing me, fellow irishman Richie Allen. You see, Richie suffers

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from something the Beatles wrote about. He won't agree with me,

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but I'm going to say it something inside that was

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always denied. Now. Unfortunately, who is being denied is the

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general public, you see, because Richie is hugely talented in

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the area of broadcasting and a real true journalist as well.

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Unfortunately for him, he speaks his mind, and as you know,

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most stations out there in the mainstream, who are advancing

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mediocricy at a rate of knots don't want to know

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when it comes to a guy who's able to command

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so many listeners that he's actually the most listened to

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independent radio show podcast and otherwise in the world independent

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radio show. All the figures are there to support that.

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I've become a friend of the Richie Allen Show and

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he's opened his doors to me and he's been really

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good to me. So Richie, if you are listening, thanks

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so much. You are taking the world by storm, whereas

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I kind of take it by cam. So now you

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might think I'm being a bit effusive for pandering a

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bit too much, but I happen to believe in people,

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and Richie is a really good bloke. He's a thoroughly

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alright guy. And if there was any justice, he'd be

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in the mainstream on a six figure plus salary with

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a Shawford driven are driven to the BBC or wherever

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every day. The guy is that good and there's no

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fucking justice. It's as simple as that. He's not afraid

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to put his head over the parapet and that's very

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threatening to some people. So let's have a little look

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at his bio, shall we. The very brilliant Richie Allen,

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as I call him, is an award winning radio and

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television presenter and the host of The Richie Allen Show.

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The most listened to independent news radio show as We've

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just been saying in the world. He got his start

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in the late nineteen nineties presenting overnight shows for his

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local station in Waterford, w l Or, which is a

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hugely popular station with a big audience. He was promoted

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to producer of the station's news show. During his tenure,

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the show enjoyed the healthiest ratings in its history. Then

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Our Richie left Ireland to study TV and radio at

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the University of Salford. During this time he also taught

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radio production courses for city and guilds. He moved to Espana, Spain,

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where he presented a hugely successful evening show for Talk

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Radio Europe. The show featured conspiracy researchers and covered issues

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that were previously considered too controversial for commercial radio. What

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have I just been saying? The man is the guru

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of taboom. In twenty thirteen, Richie moved to London to

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present a daily TV show for The People's Voice and Shore.

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Then he moved back to Manchester to launch the Richie

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Allen Radio Show, which airs on the Richie Allenshow app

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richiellendt Co dot UK and FABR Radio International dot com.

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The show has gone on to become the most widely

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listened to independent news radio show in the world. Richie

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is a free speech absolutist. This has brought him into

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conflict with various special interest groups and has seen him

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accused of aligning with any guest whose opinions might be

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on popular or offensive. He firmly believes that all views

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should be heard and challenged. His news radio show broadcasts

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live from five to seven pm Monday to Thursday. He

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also presents, which I know is very precious to him,

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a nostalgic music show called Sunday Morning Melodies each Sunday

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morning at ten a m. All right, that's the blurb.

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Speaker 7: Rich Let's hear about me and let's welcome our guest today.

472
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I've already told you he's an Irish broadcaster. He's a teacher.

473
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He is a voiceover specialist and is the host of

474
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the Scary Era podcast, which I came across when kind

475
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of hanging around his YouTube channel earlier in the year.

476
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It just began. It's a second season, and I asked

477
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them to come on and talk about it because, as

478
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I've already said, it is an area of research that

479
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I find eminently fascinating. You'll find him on Twitter under

480
00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:47,599
his name it's Mark Manning. It's a real pleasure to

481
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welcome back to the program from the old sod our friend,

482
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,400
Mark Manning, Welcome back. How are you doing Mark?

483
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Speaker 1: The very brilliant Ritchie Allen. Thanks for having me on,

484
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although I know you're not having me on, You're perfectly serious.

485
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Speaker 7: Where did your interest in the paranormal and paranormal stories

486
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,920
in Ireland? Where did it come from?

487
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: So this guy used to come over in the nineteen seventies,

488
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Lyle Watson was his name. He was a polymath, as

489
00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:16,160
I said, he could do everything. He'd do Sukahara back stands,

490
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,880
and he was a biologist and a botanist and all

491
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,119
this stuff. And he was a kind of contemporary of

492
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,519
a guy I think you knew Uri Geller. Yes, well,

493
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:26,720
you know it was kind of coming pop trendy back then.

494
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:30,519
The paranormal, you know, and paranormal, as I said, isn't

495
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:33,279
just ghosties, it's anything that can't be explained by science.

496
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:36,559
So he would have, for instance, he would relate stories

497
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,000
after this amazing book he wrote called SuperNature, you know,

498
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instances where scientists had hooked up little micro microphones if

499
00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:47,599
you like to plants, and you'd hear a plant screaming

500
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:50,000
as you pulled it from the soil. This was all,

501
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,240
you know, documented and kind of recorded and enhanced and

502
00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:56,279
all this kind of stuff. Also, I think an old

503
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party trick of his was he take a razor blade

504
00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:02,079
and he'd make up a pyramid, which has been in

505
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,920
the news recently, the pyramids, but a pyramid shape and

506
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,920
he placed a blunt razor blade under it and hey,

507
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,680
prest within twenty four hours or so, that thing was sharp. Right.

508
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Speaker 7: So these were like.

509
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: Amazing little experiments. And in the book Super Nature, like

510
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he really relates things about insects, regenerating limbs and all

511
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,319
this just totally amazing stuff. If anyone wants to take

512
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it further, I mean, one story I heard, I mean

513
00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:31,240
you can go in and get him. His Desert Island

514
00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:34,319
discs is still there, right, And also a documentary, a

515
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short one called Five Narrow Windows. If you go Google

516
00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:39,920
and you'll hear his story. I'll just related very quickly

517
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as follows on the foot of SuperNature being so amazing.

518
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He got a call from an Italian guy living with

519
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his family in Venice and he said, mister Watson, Why

520
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:52,880
don't you come over here and I've got something to

521
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,799
show you know, by the way, Venice one of my

522
00:28:54,839 --> 00:28:58,799
most favorite places in the world. Right, you gotta be,

523
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,400
you gotta be. I don't know if you can take

524
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,279
the poor old hounds.

525
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Speaker 7: Probably not. Probably the retriever would love the swimming or

526
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I support not the not the not not the the

527
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other one, the shepherd. Anyway, I'm absolutely grip poy this,

528
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So go on to wet. You got a call from

529
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the Italians, Yeah, he.

530
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Speaker 1: Got so come up and see me sometime in Vinicci, right,

531
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,440
which he did, and he was invited to this very

532
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:26,720
kind of normal but serene household and the father was

533
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:30,599
the guy that had contacted Lyle Watson, and he said,

534
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I want you to meet my little six year old girl.

535
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,920
She's got a little party trick for you. Okay, So

536
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:39,920
Lyle Watson sat down at the dinner table. It was

537
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all very convivial, and then the father gestures to the

538
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daughter and he says, will you will you do your

539
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trick for this nice gentleman. So she took a tennis ball,

540
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you know, like the kind the kind of hairy yellow

541
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tennis balls, and she held it in her hand. And

542
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this almost explains that like a dreamy look came over,

543
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,960
as if she was talking to a little fury animal,

544
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and she gently would rub this tennis ball, and honest

545
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:15,519
to God, Richie, the thing inverted, right. So what happened

546
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,759
was it literally flipped. So the rubber innards, if you like,

547
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,640
were the outer part of the sphere of the ball,

548
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:26,079
and the fluffy stuff was he cut it in half?

549
00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:27,799
Was inside?

550
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Speaker 7: She turned the ball inside out out and it was

551
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it a magic trick or inexplicable? Was it? Nobody could

552
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understand how she did it?

553
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Speaker 1: Put his hands around the ball as she was rubbing it.

554
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So if there was any kind of little trickery going

555
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on with a string or something like that, not at all.

556
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And not only did that, she did it about three

557
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times for him.

558
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Speaker 7: And now how did she come to understand that she

559
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could do such a thing? And what did what did

560
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they think about it? Did they think she was blessed

561
00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:06,720
somehow with some sort of skills? Because I'd imagine, i mean,

562
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the the Italians and the Irish, we'd be a superstitious

563
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:13,279
group of people, like you'd begin to think, like has

564
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:16,160
she been blessed by God or touched by god, what

565
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:17,160
did they think about it?

566
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Speaker 1: Mom?

567
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:18,359
Speaker 3: And me?

568
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Speaker 1: I haven't written.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't there.

570
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Speaker 8: No, no, no, what is assassinating to me? This is quite amazing. Yes,

571
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just for the crack, you know. No, it was just

572
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something she did, and he said. The sad part about

573
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it was as she grew older, words had gotten around

574
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the school and she considered herself. She got very paranoid,

575
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,599
god lover and felt a bit freakish, as you would.

576
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:53,960
Oh god, you remember that film years ago where your

577
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,359
woman is in the disco and all the paint gets

578
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carried you remember.

579
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Cissy Space. Yeah, of course when the doors all lock. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

580
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John Travolti, Yeah.

581
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Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, sorry, that was just a break for ads.

582
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So no, she got very paranoid about it, and she

583
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ceased to be able to do it.

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Speaker 7: Isn't that interesting now that's all that happened.

585
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: That reminds me of a play I went to see

587
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in the abbey years ago, and the play was about

588
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,960
a great great healer called Valentine great Rex. You probably

589
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,880
heard of this guy. I think he was either sixteenth

590
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,599
or seventeenth century, but he was a bona fide, genuine

591
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:42,039
energy healer who operated in Ireland and then one day

592
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,720
his powers of healing completely deserted him. And that's what

593
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:47,599
the play is about. And this guy is a real guy,

594
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,599
a real character. But again, he did these amazing things,

595
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,200
and of course then there was almost heresy back then

596
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,759
to be claiming to have any sort of supernatural ability

597
00:32:57,079 --> 00:32:59,720
to heal people, and he would have lived in kind

598
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,559
of fear of his life and stuff like that. But yeah,

599
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:06,799
again skeptics came from far and wide, but couldn't disprove

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in any way that this guy was the genuine article.

601
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You're listening to, Mark Manning. We're talking about the paranormal

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Scary Era is in its second season or series. It's

603
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pretty Mark. I'm not just saying that I've been listening

604
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to what. I've been watching it and thinking about these

605
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,720
issues in the stories I've heard growing up about the paranormal,

606
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:32,720
particularly in Ireland. And I know you've had an interest

607
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in Loft this Hole in County Wexford. Now I visited

608
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Loft this All in County Wexford, I don't know how

609
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many times as a kid. And for me, and maybe

610
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:46,039
I'm biased because it's so close to where I grew up.

611
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:49,119
Well close is to where I grew up and my

612
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radio station WRFM. They did a wonderful film documentary about

613
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,960
loft Us Aul. Do you want to tell that story

614
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,200
loft us all? You want me to tell it?

615
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Speaker 1: Well, w l R fair play. That's a big station,

616
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,160
Loft this Hole. I'll be honest with you. My only

617
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interaction with loft as holes. I did the voiceover for

618
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,599
a recent movie called Loftus Whole, which went out on

619
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television about six or seven years ago. But yeah, go on,

620
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:17,800
you tell the story rich.

621
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Speaker 7: Well, it's the fourteenth The mansion itself in County Exford

622
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:27,320
is a fourteenth century mansion and it's an incredible story

623
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:30,199
about a like a lot of these stories are dark

624
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,719
and stormy evening. The Tottenham family were resident, were they

625
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They were the owners occupiers of Loft this Hole at

626
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the time. And late one evening a stranger came to

627
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the door in diabolical weather weather, and the stranger came in,

628
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,519
was invited in, and was invited to sitpoint the fire,

629
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and then to have something to eat. And then later

630
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:56,519
on because the storm or the weather hadn't hadn't debated,

631
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,760
I believe to play cards. I should know this off

632
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,599
by heart. You fill in any blanks here. And while

633
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:06,760
they were playing cards, the young lady of the house

634
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,639
and Tautenhaim had cause to look under the table where

635
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:14,000
they were playing cards, maybe to check whether the stranger

636
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:18,119
was sequestering cards under the table or for whatever reason.

637
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:22,760
And it turned out the stranger had hooves, had hooves,

638
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:28,039
and when the stranger realized that he'd been rumbled, he

639
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,039
transformed into what looked like to be a demon of

640
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:35,599
some kind, maybe the devil, and left the property through

641
00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:41,159
the ceiling. Isn't that right? Like levitated in the air

642
00:35:41,559 --> 00:35:44,920
in front of these people, burst through the roof. And

643
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,599
for many many, many many years thereafter, it was believed

644
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:51,760
that the hole in the roof was irreparable, that was

645
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,440
the local legend, but that the woman Anne taught in

646
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:58,519
him descended into total madness and never recovered. And apparently

647
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,719
horse spirit couldntinues to haunt loft Us all even today,

648
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,920
and having worked for years on w l Lauren, having

649
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,199
produced mid morning talk radio, we often heard from people

650
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,800
who had claimed to have seen this woman's operation. But

651
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,679
it's a brilliant, brilliant story. I mean, if it's true,

652
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,039
it's sensation.

653
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Speaker 1: The problem with it Richie. And by the way, there's

654
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:25,639
an amazing staircase in that house. Yeah, it's kind. I

655
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:28,079
think there's only two. It's only two of a kind

656
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:31,920
or something. That story is kind of replicated. You'll hear

657
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,440
it in a few instances. For instance, the hell Fire Club.

658
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,679
Speaker 7: Oh yes, tell us about the Healthfire Club.

659
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:39,039
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you about the health Fire Club in

660
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:42,480
so far as as my late father, the Colonel, used

661
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:45,400
to say, I saw nothing worse than I saw nothing

662
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,320
worse than myself. By the way, I'm a fricking stones trow.

663
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,199
I was born in Kilkenny, so I consider myself a double.

664
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:55,000
I've been here since sixty eight. But sure I'm not.

665
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,360
I wasn't born from where you are, old son.

666
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 7: No you weren't. No you were a black and number

667
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:02,119
yeah yeah, yeah, indeed.

668
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Well I was born in a place called Kels. Now

669
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:06,000
everyone thinks of the Book of Kells, which is in Meath.

670
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,760
This is Kels. There's an abbey there, and hold that

671
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,440
thought as well, because it is relevant to our conversation

672
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:15,960
later on. But the hell Fire Club, okay was and

673
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,559
there's one in England as well. Right, So these were

674
00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:21,599
all back in the sixteenth and seventeenth century. You know,

675
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,159
the blokes with the wigs and the little little pantaloon trousers,

676
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,840
fricking money than sense rich. They were the kind of

677
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:33,519
the elon musks and whatever of their day. Right, bloody playboys, right,

678
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,599
and they basically used to play cards up there.

679
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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: It's located on a place called Montpellier Hill, not a

681
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,360
mountain or anything. But if you're up there, boy, you

682
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,679
feel elevated and you get a fantastic panoramic view of

683
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,360
Dublin City by ja Auklea all around you in fluorescent light.

684
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,440
It is amazing. But these guys there was you know

685
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:59,119
tales of the literally the Taiale, you told that's happened.

686
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So there was an instant of a cat going and

687
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interrupting one of their games, their card games, and they

688
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,239
threw what was called spalt being I think, on top

689
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,159
of the cat. The cat went down the hill like

690
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,400
a like a.

691
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 7: Like a cat on fire, yeah.

692
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: Like a feline flambay, yeah yeah, yeah, Because this thing

693
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,159
went went like literally flames went out of it like

694
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:28,840
Michael Jackson's head and took off down the hill. So

695
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,239
they were near do wells and there were all kinds

696
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,840
of talk about debauchery and black masses, et cetera. Now,

697
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,280
I was up there in twenty twenty one with my

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good friend Steven, who doesn't scare easy in the least

699
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and all, as I'd say, and I mean this for

700
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anybody that's listening. You know, forget about the ghost hunt thing.

701
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,519
Stuff undoubtedly took place in these in these locations, right, let.

702
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,079
Speaker 7: Me jump in there, let me be sure. So what

703
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,599
is it then? Is it that something is left behind,

704
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,039
some sort of a trace of something? So like, I

705
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:10,880
genuinely believe that some people are very sensitive to this

706
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,039
type of thing. I used to be very skeptical. I

707
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,679
used to think people were frauds, and I was very

708
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,199
dogmatic about it. I've learned a lot since then. I've

709
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,000
learned that I knew very little. I know very little now,

710
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:24,360
but I knew even less back then. So is it

711
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,280
that there's a trace, there is a residual energy in

712
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,000
these places that can be happened upon or picked up

713
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:37,400
on by somebody who's able to who is sensitive to it.

714
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,159
Speaker 1: Is that your understanding of it, That would be my

715
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,679
preferred understanding of it. I can because I can relate

716
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,960
to it. I don't necessarily believe in the woo woo

717
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:54,280
haunting stuff at all. Now that's just because I haven't

718
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,199
experienced it. By the way, I would be top of

719
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,880
the pops in terms of being skeptic had I not

720
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:04,320
come face to face with something in my in my

721
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,119
formative years.

722
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:06,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was. I was going to come back to that.

723
00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:08,719
Of course, I was going to work around that. I'm

724
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,360
not forgetting that's very important. But stick with the healthcare

725
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:12,760
club then and the surrounds.

726
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: Okay. So yeah, to answer your question, I am a

727
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:21,239
subscriber to what's known as stone tape theory, and the

728
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,840
you know, it originates in a kind of Christmas time

729
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,039
film the BBC put out or a little drama series

730
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,719
whereby it was felt, you know, these scientists were investigating

731
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,719
a castle and it was felt the noise as the audio,

732
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,639
et cetera, even the vision had been imbued somehow within

733
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,800
the stone work of the castle that they were investigating.

734
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,239
So every so often, under certain and this is what

735
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:52,960
I believe I saw under certain conditions, atmospheric conditions, whether

736
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,840
it's the you know, like remember the magnetic tape. So

737
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,440
it's like stone tape theory. So you know that that

738
00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:02,920
tape absorb countermemory exactly. God, I used to play with

739
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,079
those BASF tapes and stuff when I was a kid.

740
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,639
This got me into the whole radio lark. But I digress.

741
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,400
To answer your question, I think it is a replaying

742
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,880
of usually maybe some kind of a traumatic event somewhere

743
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,639
where large burst of emotion has been involved, similar to

744
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,800
us suppose in some respects what you'd see in the

745
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,039
shroud of turin that kind of you know, where there's

746
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:29,320
an explanation of something, be it grief or a violent event,

747
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,400
and then it just gets replayed under certain conditions.

748
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 7: That's just me. Yeah, I like that. I like that

749
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,960
as a possible explanation. I know it's not what you've

750
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,159
described now, But for me, the word that keeps coming

751
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:47,239
into my mind is echo that certain things can be

752
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:54,480
so awful, so traumatic, so explosive. Yeah, that they might

753
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:58,280
leave echoes of themselves around. Because I like to think

754
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,960
that when people die, their spirit, their energy some people

755
00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:06,119
call it a soul, moves on to whatever's next. Now,

756
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,360
there are people listening to this who and they've very much.

757
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,960
We have listeners who are very much into it, and

758
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,159
they reckon that they're convinced that there is a phenomenon

759
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:22,039
whereby the soul isn't ready to leave, and this might

760
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:26,519
explain hauntings, right, this might explain some of the some

761
00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:29,599
of the experiences people like Derekakorea claimed to have had,

762
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,199
and Yvette Fielding and other people like that, that there

763
00:42:33,199 --> 00:42:39,000
are people who were wrenched from this physical world, whatever

764
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:43,199
it is, so quickly, so violently, so horribly that they're

765
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,280
not really aware of the fact that they're gone and

766
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,679
they're hanging around. We're thinking the Nicole Kidman movie now

767
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,079
the others, right, what a twist that was. By the way,

768
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,960
I must be the only agent in the world who

769
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,320
didn't get that twist. I didn't get that twist at all.

770
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,719
But you don't buy that, do you, That it's somebody

771
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,440
who's left around who is just not aware that they

772
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,119
need to move on.

773
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: Oh, I'd keep an open mind because I wouldn't have

774
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,760
believed or creating a paranormal podcast in the first place,

775
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,119
as I had experienced something that was just on toward

776
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:20,559
to me. And you know, many of the time, you know,

777
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,280
as the years have gone by, you know, I've tried

778
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,079
to reconcile what happened to me and say, oh, it

779
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:29,039
was just a trick of the light. No, no, it wasn't.

780
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:30,920
I wouldn't be doing justice to that seven or eight

781
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,559
year old kid who not in your case. But the

782
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:37,440
hair stood up in my head. But I saw right.

783
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,639
But in answer again to your question, oh, I'd keep

784
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:43,440
in mind anything, you know, perhaps it was you know,

785
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,840
it's a trapped energy or whatever it is. Lots of

786
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,960
things happen, Richie. You know, you know in traumatic moments,

787
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,079
if anybody's ever been in or close to a car

788
00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:57,639
crash like I was. I was in one and we

789
00:43:57,639 --> 00:43:59,480
were doing about one hundred miles an hour at the time.

790
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:03,599
Everything slows down. That's why people say I recall it

791
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:07,360
in slow motion, you know, every the condensing. It's like,

792
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,159
I don't know whether it's frequency or whatever it is

793
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:16,360
that we're all on certain wavelengths and all. But I

794
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,039
don't want to go off down a dark corner because

795
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:20,800
people are just going to lose interest in me. But

796
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,880
now I'm not sure what it is, Richie, but I

797
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,719
keep an open mind.

798
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,199
Speaker 7: Here's some interesting messages from our listeners, Patricia Richie. One

799
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,400
that chalk my parents was when I was about five.

800
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,519
I was in my bed going to sleep when an

801
00:44:32,519 --> 00:44:35,960
older man walked into my room, walked around my bed,

802
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:38,960
and came over. I wasn't afraid at all until he

803
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,480
looked at me and said, hi, Patricia. I ran out

804
00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:44,039
and turned all the lights on. I told my parents

805
00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:48,519
how he looked anyway. They told me later on, some

806
00:44:48,679 --> 00:44:52,880
years later, it was exactly the description of my dad's father,

807
00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:56,320
who passed away before I was born. Now I have

808
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,639
no doubt that's genuine, and I've got another one very

809
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:01,920
similar to it here if I can bring it up.

810
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,599
This is from keV Richie. I went on a Sunday

811
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:09,440
drive around the Sperns with my wife some years ago.

812
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,119
We met a man walking on his own who looked

813
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:15,480
really familiar, but I couldn't place him. Walking along the

814
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,920
side of the road, as Irish people do, I put

815
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,840
the hand up, he didn't react. My wife said, that's

816
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,360
your father. She never met him, had only seen photos

817
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,840
of him. He died in nineteen ninety. Whether I receiving

818
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,760
some sort of message again, there's no way that keV

819
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,760
is not being genuine there. This guy's familiar to me,

820
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,360
I can't place him. The wife says, I think that

821
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,039
was your father. What's going on. I'd love to know

822
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:42,599
what's going on there, what's happening there, whether that's the

823
00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:45,559
sixty four million dollar question, it's why you're doing the podcast.

824
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:48,159
Speaker 1: I suppose your guess is as good as mine. But

825
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,559
I mean, I know he's off the maligned. But I'll

826
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:52,440
just go back to Derek A. Kora if you've ever

827
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,599
heard any interviews with him. I mean, his initial experience

828
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,519
was very much like you're first listener there, the exact

829
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:02,440
same thing. He was running down the stairs in some

830
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,559
old house that is Nana I think he used to own,

831
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:09,000
and he came across this guy who said hello to him,

832
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:11,920
I think, patted them on the head, and he came

833
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:17,440
downstairs reported it, and you know, they said they weren't

834
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,880
they They apparently they had the gift in the family.

835
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,679
So they said, you know, open up the old photograph

836
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,559
album and sure enough it was his grandfather who had

837
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:27,800
been some kind of navel man or something like that.

838
00:46:28,159 --> 00:46:29,960
But no, I kicked my mind up, and can I

839
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,320
can I just share two things with you apart from say,

840
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:35,880
like the big incident that happened in the seventies, right.

841
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, but doo don't want to hear that as well.

842
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: Is that okay? Right? Because one of them is very

843
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,519
recent and as God is my witness, right, here's what happened.

844
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,760
So I'm doing the podcast. I'm trying to sound like

845
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,840
you and being all the brick and I'm trying to

846
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,320
be Terry Wogan whoever, I am right. And you know

847
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:52,599
when you.

848
00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:54,639
Speaker 7: When you get carried away with your you're the man

849
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:57,199
with the golden vice? Will you fake off? Go ahead?

850
00:46:57,559 --> 00:46:57,599
Speaker 4: No?

851
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: But you know when you when you get carried away

852
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,599
with your own of little importance, and it's not that

853
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,800
it's just that you love doing God, you do this

854
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,280
for nothing, right, So there I was and I had this.

855
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:11,719
She's a psychic medium. Her name is an I course

856
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,719
making a big play out of it, Rhonda. She's an

857
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,360
American helped me Randa, and she's beautiful and very kind

858
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,239
of how do I put it?

859
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:20,519
Speaker 7: You know?

860
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: Oh, she's just a big kind of blonde bombshell. And

861
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,360
she's based now in Ireland. I think she lives in Sligo.

862
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:30,400
Check her out, by the way, what's your name Ronda

863
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,719
Hale dot com? Because she does all kinds of stuff.

864
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,880
So I had her on the show because I thought, well,

865
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,440
here's the angle in American psychic in Ireland, and she'd

866
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,519
gone around all these sites, including as I said to you, Kels,

867
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,079
there's an abbey in Kels in k Kenny, and had

868
00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:47,599
come up with some stuff. So she's been very vivacious

869
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:50,199
and American and all the rest. But and I'm chatting

870
00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:52,679
away and I'm you know, I can't remember how it

871
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,599
came up, but I you know, I was explaining how

872
00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:57,440
I'd lost my parents and stuff, and I'm going bloody

873
00:47:57,519 --> 00:48:01,239
blah blah blah blah blah blah, not listening, not bloody listening.

874
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,960
And she, you know, at least three times you can

875
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,000
listen back, she goes, you know, Mark, she's here. You know, Mark,

876
00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:11,880
she's here. But Mark was too busy. You're us right, yeah,

877
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,920
But about third time, Lucky I said sorry. She said,

878
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,199
I didn't mean to give you a reading, but your

879
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,280
mother is here, all right. So I kind of went

880
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:29,280
here we go, but she went she said, your mother

881
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:33,679
is here, and she said this is what got me.

882
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,159
First of all, she said she's got a little boy

883
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:41,400
with her. And I went, see you jump to conclusions, Richie.

884
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,920
I lost my brother, who was nine years older than me,

885
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,119
to cancer. Go way back in two thousand and nine,

886
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,400
So I, you know, you want to believe kind And

887
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,760
I went, hold on, you're onto something there. Ronda to

888
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,760
to my mother that would be her little boy, even

889
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,519
though he was like fifty three when past that would

890
00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:05,920
be So she said, it's a boy. But anyway, and

891
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,559
I said, you know, okay, she said your dad is

892
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:13,679
here as well, and she said, boy, he's, as she

893
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:19,199
described him, a kick in the pants. And she said

894
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:24,880
to me, he's stubborn, isn't he. He's a real stubborn.

895
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:26,960
He's got his little grin on his face and his

896
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:31,920
arms are folded. Now the Mannings, Richie, are stubborn, right,

897
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,840
It's not the kind of word that I think psychics

898
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,119
just conjure up. And if it was one hell of

899
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:40,360
a coincidence, what.

900
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,159
Speaker 7: About the image of him standing their arms folded with

901
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:44,599
a kind of a smirk on his face. Did that

902
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:45,159
ring a bell?

903
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: He had this wry kind of smile. As I said,

904
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,119
he was a military guy. You know, if you hear

905
00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:53,480
Lebanon recently, dad was in charge of Camp Shamrock out

906
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:56,039
in Lebanon in the news recently. He was a command

907
00:49:56,159 --> 00:50:00,000
the camp commandant out there. And she was forty years enough,

908
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:04,840
you know. And and Dad, she said, he wants to say

909
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,400
something to you, and this isn't where I do the

910
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:13,360
emotional thing. But she said, he says, you know, sorry, son,

911
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:18,280
I wasn't too approachable when you were younger. But it's

912
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,559
just the way I was brought up. It was different times.

913
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,840
And see, he lost his father, you know. I think

914
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,199
by the time my dad was born, his father had died.

915
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,280
His father, by the way, had got through the trenches

916
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,800
of the First World War founders, wasn't such a short

917
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,039
way to Tipperary, married the local postmistress there and died

918
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:43,000
of blumen what you call appendicitis, right, So this was

919
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:48,079
very too much of a coincidence. Okay, now it gets better.

920
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:49,760
I mean, first of all, she kind of got my

921
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,000
father to a tea with the stubborn bit, you know.

922
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:55,880
And also the kind of engaging but not engaging, you know,

923
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:57,760
kind of the match of thing that used to go on.

924
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 7: And she couldn't have listened to anything about you or

925
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,519
read anything on Facebook or anything. You're pretty sure, no, okay.

926
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,519
Speaker 1: I know that, I know that you. I think back

927
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:09,119
in the day you did a roost on some one

928
00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:10,119
of these guys or something.

929
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 7: Wed years ago in Spain. Yeah, I did.

930
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we get older and wider and so look,

931
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:18,760
so she had that, right, she had my dad. Right.

932
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,079
We came off the call, and as you know, you do,

933
00:51:22,119 --> 00:51:24,079
you have a little chat with them before and afterwards.

934
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:27,760
And I said, got you got my brother? And she said,

935
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,840
your brother was fifty something when he passed. I'm telling

936
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,480
you it was a little boy. It was a little boy.

937
00:51:33,519 --> 00:51:37,960
She was insistent, right, Richie. I thought about it in

938
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,800
the days coming afterwards, and I realized my mother told

939
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,400
me when I was about seven that she had a

940
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,960
miss right. She didn't even get into much detail. She said,

941
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,679
you had a brother and he died and we baptized,

942
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:56,320
We had him baptized. And I remember thinking, what a

943
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,079
weird thing to say, because I was only a kid.

944
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,960
But in reality, you know, and in sympathy, you know,

945
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,639
I think she was still affected. It was probably relatively

946
00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:09,880
recent and she was still traumatized. So that was a

947
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,599
hell of a coincidence. She got my she got my dad,

948
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:15,079
she got my mom. And then I realized that my

949
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,079
mother had told me, you know, that she'd lost a

950
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:19,840
little boy years ago.

951
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 7: So in this instance, then as far as you're concerned.

952
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:31,079
There's a strong possibility that Ronda was able to receive

953
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:38,119
messages emotionally or energetically from your mom and dad. You've

954
00:52:38,159 --> 00:52:40,880
got to consider that to be a possibility. I again,

955
00:52:41,199 --> 00:52:43,440
I'm not saying that's exactly what happened, because I don't know.

956
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,199
Years ago, I would have laughed at it. Now I

957
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,519
don't laugh at it because I've had too many experiences,

958
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,519
met too many people who've had something similar happened to them,

959
00:52:55,679 --> 00:52:58,239
has happened to you, So you're open to the possibility

960
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,639
that Mom and are somehow still around.

961
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm open to the possibility Richie, that you know, stuff

962
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:14,519
exists that we don't understand. Yeah, and before I mean,

963
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:16,360
I'll just move on to the second story that I

964
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,679
found uncanny, which, by the way, is a TV series.

965
00:53:19,679 --> 00:53:22,440
I don't know if you've seen it. It's fantastic. Yeah good, Yeah,

966
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:26,360
Oh it's good. At the beautiful color grading and the production. Oh,

967
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,079
it's fantastic. There was another one about which is something

968
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:32,480
recently as well, beautifully filmed, all drone footage and all that,

969
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,679
just to drool for. But it's not like I go

970
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,800
around chasing, you know, California hippie dream girls but years

971
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,880
before that, I was part of some kind of an

972
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,320
online group and I anyway, I got talking to this

973
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,960
very nice lady. And indeed, if I remember rightly, one

974
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,400
of her talents was she would paint the Oscar statues

975
00:53:54,199 --> 00:53:57,760
for the Oscars every year, you know, the gold statues,

976
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,440
but they're painted golden. That was one of the things

977
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,440
she used to do. But she sent me this amazing

978
00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:04,400
birth chart one time, and if you want to get

979
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,480
into the whole astrology thing, right, and it was very on,

980
00:54:08,039 --> 00:54:10,920
you know, it was remarkable kind of things like the

981
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,760
day why was born? By the way President Kennedy flew

982
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,440
over the house. His arms must have been sore, but

983
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,119
it was like Marine one or something, the helicopter when

984
00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:22,000
on his visit in nineteen sixty three to Ireland. And

985
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:23,920
so she was she wanted the time, you know, the

986
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,519
time I was born. And anyway, this thing kind of

987
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:29,000
blew my mind. It was very very when she presented

988
00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:32,320
it to me, it was full of detail. And then

989
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,719
about a year or two later, I thought, I could

990
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,320
you know, amble another reading out for the crack you know,

991
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,159
now she used to charge for these, but she didn't

992
00:54:39,199 --> 00:54:41,440
the first time around, but she probably got a bit

993
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,719
wise to me being tight and you know what, Richie.

994
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,239
She said to me, Look, okay, Mark, I tell you what.

995
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,400
I'm not going to do a whole reading now, but

996
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,679
I have tapped wait till you hear this, I've tapped

997
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,920
into your energy. Right. This is not Ronda. Now, there's

998
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,719
a totally different lady years before. And she said, here's

999
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:07,400
here's what I found. I can't make sense of it.

1000
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,960
And she said to me, I don't want to be

1001
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,039
a cycle of recycled revenge. I don't want to follow

1002
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:18,400
Death and all of his Friends. Now that is a

1003
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,159
line from a cold Play song called Death and all

1004
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:21,840
of His Friends.

1005
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,599
Speaker 7: Yes it is. Yeah, you know.

1006
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,599
Speaker 1: Now, here's the thing about I don't know a week

1007
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,119
or two beforehand, when I used to do such a

1008
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:32,440
thing as ironing. I was doing it out in the

1009
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,000
conservatory by myself, ironing me business shirt or whatever, when

1010
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,159
I used to be suited and booted back then. And

1011
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,239
I was listening to that Viva de Loca whatever it's

1012
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,039
called album, which I detest now because it reminds me

1013
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:49,159
of a particular time in television I did some more.

1014
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:51,760
I love the TV work. But there was a gimp

1015
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,639
there that used to play that album all the time.

1016
00:55:54,039 --> 00:55:56,239
But yeah, you know the way you get a pig

1017
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,679
remember that? Remember that Howard Sperry movie Pig Vomit Paul

1018
00:55:59,679 --> 00:55:59,800
do you?

1019
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:01,199
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1020
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 1: So I just keep thinking of him. But anyway, I

1021
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,960
was doing the earning right, and I listened to this song.

1022
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:09,199
And I used to fancy myself as a kind of poet,

1023
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,159
you know, I still do. I used to write, and

1024
00:56:11,199 --> 00:56:14,079
I used to dabble, especially in my forties. You know,

1025
00:56:14,159 --> 00:56:16,679
I just got into this thing where I just started

1026
00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:19,760
to write and write and write. Now I heard that line,

1027
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,559
it resonated with me. I didn't share it with anybody else.

1028
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:28,519
I just remember thinking, God, I wish i'd written that,

1029
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:33,280
And she comes out of the ether with it. So

1030
00:56:33,519 --> 00:56:36,199
as I said, it's it's it's about keeping an open mind.

1031
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no explaining that away, No there is.

1032
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 1: I didn't even tell me why she wouldn't be interested.

1033
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 7: You know, you can't dismiss that as some sort of coincidence,

1034
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:49,599
or no, you can't. I mean, that's that's really really

1035
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:54,840
strange and beyond fascinating. Really, you'd love to get a

1036
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,280
chance to sit down with the lady in question, to

1037
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,039
ask her What were you What were you feeling when

1038
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:03,400
you blurted out those two lines? What was going through

1039
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:03,840
your mind?

1040
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 1: You know, she was just amazing. But listen, I've got

1041
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,639
one for you that you might like it.

1042
00:57:08,159 --> 00:57:11,599
Speaker 7: Just before you do though, it's exactly half six. You're

1043
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:14,320
listening to the Richie Allen Show out of Salford. It's

1044
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,159
wonderful of Mark Manning back on the program. It really

1045
00:57:17,199 --> 00:57:19,280
is lovely to be speaking to some one from the

1046
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,400
old country. Mark is He's done at all in TV

1047
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:26,639
and radio. He's a presenter, he's a teacher, voice over artist,

1048
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,199
and he is responsible for He's the man behind Scary Era,

1049
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:34,519
which is in season two. It's a series of podcasts

1050
00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:38,880
about the paranormal and Ireland and I really recommend you

1051
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,840
check it out. You'll find Mark on x It's at

1052
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,239
Mark Manning. Couldn't be simpler YouTube channel. If you look

1053
00:57:45,239 --> 00:57:47,599
for Mark Manning you'll find him there. And of course

1054
00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:50,280
the links will be on the podcast notes a little

1055
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,480
bit later on. And thanks for all your messages. I

1056
00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:55,159
will get to them, I promise him. Michael has been

1057
00:57:55,159 --> 00:57:58,920
in touch. Great grandmother's son, Michael. I'm trying to think,

1058
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,119
what would your great crowd mother's son be to you.

1059
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:05,480
I suppose your grandfather, I suppose was killed in the war.

1060
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,760
But after he'd been killed, unbeknowns to anybody else, nobody

1061
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,960
knew he was dead. She'd seen him come in, hang

1062
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:16,079
his hat and went upstairs again. You see, people don't

1063
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:19,800
make this stuff up. You know, later on they learned

1064
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,320
that the chap has been killed. God love him in action.

1065
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,519
But after he'd been killed, he just wandered up the stairs.

1066
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,360
Hang on a second, and you're supposed to be overseas

1067
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,840
and he's not there at all. He's dead, Thank you, Michael.

1068
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,320
It's a few more like that, by the way, mysterious

1069
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,800
appearances of somebody who had recently died.

1070
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,559
Speaker 1: Yes, and that's kind of unusual. I believe. I can't

1071
00:58:40,639 --> 00:58:43,480
remember the name of it, as one of these old houses.

1072
00:58:46,159 --> 00:58:48,880
Oh God, isn't county MEI or something like that. But

1073
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,679
the same thing happened, and now it was an old

1074
00:58:50,719 --> 00:58:53,559
English family and the chap had went off to war.

1075
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,599
He was killed in the First World War, but he

1076
00:58:56,679 --> 00:59:00,199
appeared at the lakeside in Ireland and the groundsman and

1077
00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:02,840
sew him. Somebody will will remember what that is. But

1078
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,840
here's one for you, and that's not dismissing for a

1079
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,239
minute all these great listeners that are sharing stuff with us.

1080
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:10,320
I just thought you and I could relate to this. Okay,

1081
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,920
here we go and you give me make me you

1082
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,960
big me up, Richie. But to be honest, I'm a

1083
00:59:15,039 --> 00:59:17,360
kind of jack of all, master of none. The voiceover

1084
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,199
has been good to me. Right, So I go all

1085
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:23,840
the way back to the Pirates right in in Ireland.

1086
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,880
And don't worry, I'm not going off in a radio one.

1087
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 7: Right, but I go.

1088
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,639
Speaker 1: I go back to the radio Dublins, which by the way,

1089
00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:32,760
is supposedly had a ghost called Ermatrude, if I remember rightly.

1090
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,840
But what I want to encapsulate with yourself is that

1091
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,599
whole thing of being the late night DJ, which was

1092
00:59:41,519 --> 00:59:44,039
you know, a lot of the management have go you

1093
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,000
put them on the graveyard shift kind of stuff, you know,

1094
00:59:47,199 --> 00:59:49,360
and we all knew they were saving money on security

1095
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,519
by having us in there, of course, But however, you

1096
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:55,800
can't buy that kind of time and that kind of

1097
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,920
sharing of humanity in the wee small hours. I remember

1098
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,920
one like getting an amazing call, but it would only

1099
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,039
be gone off on a tangent now to talk about it.

1100
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:08,280
So I think it was episode two we had you

1101
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,079
might remember this name, Bernie Jemison came on.

1102
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 7: Bernie Jemison and Joseph.

1103
01:00:14,119 --> 01:00:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bernie Jefferson started out on Radio Dublin way back

1104
01:00:18,239 --> 01:00:20,039
with myself, so that you know, that would place her

1105
01:00:20,159 --> 01:00:23,679
late seventies, very early eighties. And she is a beauty.

1106
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,599
She is an absolute lady. And you named the station

1107
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,119
she's been on it. She is a professional to her fingertips, okay,

1108
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,599
And she was on what was at the time and

1109
01:00:34,639 --> 01:00:38,440
it was a failed entity called you might recall Radio Ireland. Yeah,

1110
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:42,360
remember Radio Ireland. And you know, you try and get

1111
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,400
into the place. You keep on knocking, but like enough,

1112
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,159
you know, keep keeping knocking, but you can't get in

1113
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:52,599
through this anarish joke. So you know, you know, you

1114
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,119
send it in your I remember sending in a cassette

1115
01:00:55,159 --> 01:00:57,559
tape and the PD, the program director is saying to me,

1116
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,159
thanks for that. I didn't notice still did those? You know,

1117
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,519
such a snotty yo, So I'd be trying to get

1118
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:05,719
into Radio Ireland. But she was in there, okay. And

1119
01:01:06,159 --> 01:01:09,280
this was in Jervis Street, which was in the Environs.

1120
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,039
It's just off O'Connell Street, the environs of what was

1121
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:18,840
for many years Jervis Street Hospital, So you probably know

1122
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,440
this kind of coming up to her graveyards. You know,

1123
01:01:21,559 --> 01:01:24,199
everything goes pretty much on auto right, so they can

1124
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,280
auto fade the playout software, so essentially you think someone's

1125
01:01:28,519 --> 01:01:33,119
on air, but nobody's there, right. But she would because

1126
01:01:33,119 --> 01:01:36,400
she had to do the live broadcast and mus time

1127
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,000
and keep an eye on the clock as well. Rich

1128
01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:43,960
So she would hear this kind of like a lullaby,

1129
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:49,840
lullaby thing and it would ebb and flow, and she

1130
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:53,800
kept it to herself for a while, and it was

1131
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,920
always kind of late night, this thing. It seemed to

1132
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,920
come through the wall, you know, kind of I don't know,

1133
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,840
serial or whatever. Very lightened and ephemerald. There's two big

1134
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,159
words for you, you know, quick in out, thin, veiled,

1135
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,239
all that stuff, but eerie and sometimes maybe perhaps I

1136
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:14,599
might be egging it a bit here, but I think

1137
01:02:14,639 --> 01:02:18,960
a baby crying or someone singing to a baby. She

1138
01:02:19,079 --> 01:02:21,920
kept it to herself, and then she spilled the beans

1139
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,000
one time and someone else went, you're not the only one, Bernie.

1140
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,320
I've heard that as well. So she's beautiful. The whole story,

1141
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,559
by the way, is on I think episode two a

1142
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:35,119
scary era. By the way, if you go Mark Manning Media,

1143
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,320
that's a catch all for all the platforms you just

1144
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,360
mentioned Mark Manning Media. Put that word media in. And

1145
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:42,480
by the way, Jervis Street again very quickly, did you

1146
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:44,880
used to be a hospital there? And I heard the

1147
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,000
story was I was probably chatting her up at the time,

1148
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,519
a nurse way back in the eighties, and she said,

1149
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,440
oh yeah, Jervis Street. She said, you know, we've She said,

1150
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:55,719
I was in there one night. It was a guy

1151
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,880
dying and the priest was around them given the last rites,

1152
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:03,599
and she said he rose up, he levitated, you know,

1153
01:03:03,679 --> 01:03:06,559
a few feet above the bed as the rights were

1154
01:03:06,599 --> 01:03:09,280
being given, and then it's almost like somebody just put

1155
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:13,440
them back down again to react to it, you know,

1156
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,239
Richie hit the bulls eye there. I've had a priest

1157
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,719
on and his name is Michael Collins of all names right,

1158
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,519
only recently, and he's claimed even though he's been present

1159
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:24,679
when people have been ill mentally and all kinds of stuff.

1160
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,599
Never they answer your question. I don't know. I didn't ask.

1161
01:03:27,719 --> 01:03:29,360
I just kind of got the creeps when she said

1162
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,039
that to me. But on the flip side of that

1163
01:03:31,159 --> 01:03:31,880
one funny.

1164
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 7: Michael talked to you about exorcisms, didn't he He did,

1165
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,079
but you know, we.

1166
01:03:38,119 --> 01:03:40,079
Speaker 1: All want the juicy stuff with the head spinning around

1167
01:03:40,159 --> 01:03:43,880
and all that. But no, he wasn't playing ball. It's

1168
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,000
it's kind of you might remember a book called The

1169
01:03:46,039 --> 01:03:51,880
Divide Itself, and it's it's almost he reckons. It's the mind,

1170
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:55,360
as the good and the evil are probably at battle

1171
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:59,840
with each other, and it's a matter of making the

1172
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:03,000
you know layman's terms, but the good to overcome the

1173
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:06,320
evil aspect of you. You know, he said, he, yeah,

1174
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,760
he was at places where people were obviously very disturbed,

1175
01:04:12,199 --> 01:04:14,480
but he couldn't you know, he couldn't give me the

1176
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:15,360
whole Well.

1177
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:19,159
Speaker 7: Can I jump in there, because that's fascinating. I interviewed

1178
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,320
a guy called Father Vince Lampert about three times over

1179
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,360
the years. And you'll probably know Vince is he's the

1180
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,920
Vatican's exorcist in America, at least in at least on

1181
01:04:32,039 --> 01:04:37,000
the eastern seaboard of America. And interviewed Vince lovely, lovely gentleman,

1182
01:04:37,519 --> 01:04:41,280
And of course I challenged him, you know, pretty hard.

1183
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,480
I said, come on, we're talking about mental disturbances. And

1184
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:49,119
serious psychological illnesses, and he said, of course. He said,

1185
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,440
you know, many times you'll be taken to a place

1186
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,280
because the family is religious, and you realize that you

1187
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,239
don't really have any business being there because the person

1188
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,760
is suffering from psychological illness of one kind or another.

1189
01:05:02,039 --> 01:05:04,400
But then he said, there are the other times when

1190
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,519
you're confronting demons. And there was nothing about the guy's

1191
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:11,159
conversation with me that I found to be insincere or false.

1192
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,679
There was nothing in it for him. And he recounted

1193
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:16,239
a couple of stories that were fairly you can make.

1194
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:22,199
We'll joke again about my pollically challenged dome, but you know,

1195
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,159
stories that would raise the hairs on the back of

1196
01:05:25,199 --> 01:05:28,079
your neck where he said he was convinced he was.

1197
01:05:28,599 --> 01:05:33,480
We're talking about a face changing shape and guttur a language,

1198
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:37,320
and even foreign tongues, and not just gobbledygook now, but

1199
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,599
actual languages coming out of a person. And he had

1200
01:05:40,639 --> 01:05:42,639
to deal with that. And he explained to me that

1201
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,559
you draw the demon out through the top of the head,

1202
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,639
or not the demon, the attachment, whatever it is. And

1203
01:05:48,679 --> 01:05:51,400
I believed him, not because I wanted to believe in

1204
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,679
I'm a skeptic. At least I felt that he had

1205
01:05:54,719 --> 01:05:57,360
at least he believed what he was.

1206
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: Telling me, which man accomplished, you know, in his craft.

1207
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,599
Speaker 7: Yeah. Now, no, it doesn't mean that what he felt

1208
01:06:03,679 --> 01:06:07,119
he experienced actually happened. That's another thing entirely. But at

1209
01:06:07,199 --> 01:06:10,199
least that was his understanding of it, and I found

1210
01:06:10,239 --> 01:06:13,159
that to be in I've got to read some more messages, mate,

1211
01:06:13,199 --> 01:06:17,000
because our listeners are loving this, so thank you for them.

1212
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,320
A listener's been in touch to say it's Wayne saw

1213
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,960
an apparition as a child, woken late at night to

1214
01:06:24,039 --> 01:06:27,360
the sound of church bells, but the bells weren't actually ringing.

1215
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,840
A little girl in white and bathed in a white

1216
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,480
glow was on the grass outside my bedroom window upon

1217
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:36,920
opening the court, and the second time she was now

1218
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,199
suspended outside my window looking in. And then he had

1219
01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:44,079
another experience at a holistic center above a market, when

1220
01:06:44,119 --> 01:06:47,039
something else very strange happened. He would sit in the

1221
01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:50,280
main room facing a small hallway. A therapy room was

1222
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,559
to the right. People who looked as though they were

1223
01:06:52,599 --> 01:06:55,960
looking around would cross the doorway as if they were

1224
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,000
going into therapy. When I got up to look there

1225
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,960
wouldn't be anybody there. There was only one ex that

1226
01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:04,880
says Wayne, There's so many of these. I wish I'd

1227
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,119
experienced something myself. I have never experienced anything at all.

1228
01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:12,239
Alexandra was on was in London twenty years ago. Partner

1229
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,400
worked and lived on a construction site near central London.

1230
01:07:15,679 --> 01:07:17,679
The building used to be a vicarage where a priest

1231
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,079
used to live. Unbeknownst to my partner, he invited his

1232
01:07:21,199 --> 01:07:24,280
best friend and a relative from Poland to join him

1233
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,440
at the construction place. All three of them started experiencing

1234
01:07:27,519 --> 01:07:31,679
strange things in the house, like weird cold feelings. At

1235
01:07:31,719 --> 01:07:35,280
a specific point, near the staircase, metal parts of the

1236
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,639
library shelves began moving at night, making a horrible noise.

1237
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,079
And then my partner lost consciousness while in the bathroom

1238
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,800
and later woke up to find scratches on his body.

1239
01:07:45,199 --> 01:07:48,599
Oh wow, portergeist, Oh poltergeist.

1240
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:53,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had the story of the Cooneen poltergeist there

1241
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:56,960
recently as well. It's happened in nineteen thirteen. I think, sorry, Rich, no, no, this.

1242
01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:00,639
Speaker 7: Is brilliant because it leads in perfectly to that episode, which.

1243
01:08:00,159 --> 01:08:03,039
Speaker 1: Can I try something here? Just just I'm going to

1244
01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:04,880
ask if you hear this now, because if you do,

1245
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:08,199
we're on a winner. Just don't worry. I'm not putting

1246
01:08:08,199 --> 01:08:08,519
the trick on.

1247
01:08:08,599 --> 01:08:10,119
Speaker 7: No, no, I'll say nothing. I'm silent.

1248
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to put a monitor on here. No, okay,

1249
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,680
all right, what I had lined up for you, but

1250
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,359
because of this freaking Skype thing is but your listeners

1251
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:24,880
can go on if they want anyway, if they go

1252
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,279
Scary era EVP rights. These are electronic voice phenomena. I

1253
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:30,840
had a few of them that were given to me

1254
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,439
by investigators and they're pretty amazing. One or two you'd

1255
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,880
say that Scooby Doo contrived, right, But when you know

1256
01:08:39,119 --> 01:08:42,399
the person you're dealing with and you trust them implicitly

1257
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,199
and you know they've verified themselves over not only that,

1258
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,039
you insult them if you keep slagging them off, because

1259
01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:51,119
you know they take their their work very very seriously.

1260
01:08:51,319 --> 01:08:52,840
If I can just name a couple of these right,

1261
01:08:53,239 --> 01:08:56,079
very quickly. So you've got Down and Cork. You've got

1262
01:08:56,359 --> 01:09:00,199
Cork a Supernatural Society with Matthew Clark. He's given some

1263
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:03,199
great EVPs. So this is when you hear the voices

1264
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:05,159
you know, and usually they hear them when they come

1265
01:09:05,239 --> 01:09:07,399
back after the investigation. They don't hear them at the time.

1266
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:12,760
Institu he's there. And up in the northeast we have

1267
01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:17,159
Jenny Sullivan. She's provided me with the EVPs as well.

1268
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:20,239
You know there was one there was mad. It's a

1269
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:22,479
real pity. Now this didn't kick in tonight for you,

1270
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,359
but well we'll do hopefully we'll talk again.

1271
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 7: And and I came across this mark years ago, did

1272
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,119
you hear it. Yeah, I came across this yeah, where

1273
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:36,840
I met some people who had been using tape recorders

1274
01:09:37,319 --> 01:09:41,920
to tape to basically record empty rooms and places where

1275
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,720
where it was alleged things that happened. So it's a

1276
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,760
bit like that scene in the sixth Sense when Bruce

1277
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,840
Willis comes back and turns up the tape and then

1278
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,039
he realizes that the kid is really haunted. He's really

1279
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,600
being visited by ghosts Hailey Joel Osmond. But I met

1280
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:02,279
people who use tape recorders in rooms and then listen

1281
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,399
back to them, turned them up real high, and you

1282
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,039
could hear voices and stuff like that. That is freaky stuff.

1283
01:10:08,119 --> 01:10:10,319
Speaker 1: That No, it is freaky stuff, and some of it

1284
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,960
some of it is explainable though as well. I remember

1285
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,000
one of the very first things I read about as

1286
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,199
a teenager, being a bit of an old army barmie,

1287
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:20,399
you know. So I was reading this report and it

1288
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,880
was about the Cold War. So there were the Yanks

1289
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,880
and the Brits were on maneuvers down and I don't know,

1290
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,960
Saxony somewhere in Germany anyway, so you can imagine this

1291
01:10:29,119 --> 01:10:31,439
was NATO time. So these guys are all in, you know,

1292
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,600
you know, suited and boots and kitted up to the hilt.

1293
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,640
They're driving along in there. I don't know what they had,

1294
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:42,600
Cromwell tanks or whatever. They were right booting along on

1295
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,000
maneuvers and this bridge shot. The officer, of course, he's

1296
01:10:46,039 --> 01:10:48,920
in the turret and he's listening away, and you know,

1297
01:10:49,319 --> 01:10:52,600
the sergeant so and so is driving along, and you know,

1298
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,520
these guys have got little radio sets on. And you

1299
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,359
mentioned guttural earlier on R Yes, so these voices started

1300
01:10:59,399 --> 01:11:04,439
coming through the through their headsets. This fascinates me as well.

1301
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,800
A big into sound and you know minus twenty hertz

1302
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,479
and all that stuff where you hear like submarines on anyway,

1303
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,920
So hearing all these like this garble essentially very guttural,

1304
01:11:15,239 --> 01:11:19,039
very military, and he said, I didn't realize any of

1305
01:11:19,039 --> 01:11:22,000
our you know, German allies were in on this maneuver

1306
01:11:22,119 --> 01:11:24,399
with us. And you know the guys are looking blankly,

1307
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,840
but they're not, sir, what's going on. One of them

1308
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:32,199
was able to speak German. He said, I'm listening. These

1309
01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:36,439
were World War two intercepts, right. This was some ss

1310
01:11:37,279 --> 01:11:41,560
VERMAC divisions, you know, calling out the orders thirty or

1311
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,279
thirty years beforehand. Right, So what had happened was I

1312
01:11:45,399 --> 01:11:49,279
think they were in a valley and the original transmissions

1313
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,680
the signals had somehow again we're going back to being

1314
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:58,239
replayed under certain atmospherics, you know, we're bouncing about, so

1315
01:11:58,399 --> 01:12:00,359
like you know, in the middle of the Cold War,

1316
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,800
like World War Two was being relived kind of stuff.

1317
01:12:04,399 --> 01:12:06,560
Speaker 7: And that is phenomenal. I mean, that is a phenomenon,

1318
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,159
isn't it that such a thing could actually happen. So

1319
01:12:09,279 --> 01:12:13,199
it wasn't something from beyond the grave. It was that again,

1320
01:12:13,359 --> 01:12:16,399
some echo, some recording of it in some way that

1321
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,560
we really don't understand had actually happened. So it was

1322
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,039
always there. That's have I gotten that right? If I

1323
01:12:23,159 --> 01:12:28,319
understood that? Yeah, that's amazing. Will you hear this from Luke. Luke,

1324
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:32,079
like many pet owners, was devastated when his cat passed

1325
01:12:32,119 --> 01:12:38,039
away because she had cancer and he wasn't allowed to

1326
01:12:38,119 --> 01:12:41,119
spend her last moments with her when she was euthanized

1327
01:12:41,159 --> 01:12:45,920
because of the bastard COVID restrictions. John Waters is right.

1328
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,199
They should be horsewhipped. Horsewhipped, all of them, so, he

1329
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,600
says Luke. He says, look, look, I tried the number

1330
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,640
of psychics to see if I could contact the cat,

1331
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,279
who he called eazy, but all of them were ridiculous.

1332
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,479
But then remembered my ex used to talk about a

1333
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,880
psychic she used to go to. So I contacted the psychic.

1334
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,880
Now the woman knew nothing about me or that I

1335
01:13:09,039 --> 01:13:13,159
was wanting to contact Izzy the cat. Nothing. As soon

1336
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:15,279
as she picked up the phone to speak with me,

1337
01:13:16,199 --> 01:13:19,600
she said to me, I have a cat here who

1338
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,520
was very happy that you have kept some of her

1339
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,680
four in a tub under the bed. Now, Richie says Luke,

1340
01:13:27,079 --> 01:13:31,159
that was totally true. She then asked me, She said

1341
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:33,920
she wanted to know who's the black cat. And I

1342
01:13:34,039 --> 01:13:35,960
literally had a black cat follow me home a couple

1343
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,680
of nights previous, and I was looking after Horror until

1344
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,800
I could hopefully find her owner, which I eventually did.

1345
01:13:43,119 --> 01:13:45,199
So not only did you know about Eazy, but she

1346
01:13:45,279 --> 01:13:47,760
knew that I was kind of kind of a surrogate

1347
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,359
owner to another cat while we were trying to locate

1348
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,840
the owner, and she told me other things about Izzy

1349
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,720
that she couldn't possibly have known. It's amazing to me that.

1350
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,319
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, I sympathize with you because of me. And

1351
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,319
by the way, Richie, you know when somebody said something

1352
01:14:03,399 --> 01:14:06,079
like that, I mean, I do listen to it, and

1353
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:08,000
it's if I come back to you. It's not like,

1354
01:14:08,119 --> 01:14:09,680
oh I want to go on better than you. Right, So,

1355
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,520
just I would like to say to Luke, I mean,

1356
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:16,039
I've got two cats. One hates me, hates me, the

1357
01:14:16,159 --> 01:14:19,680
other is lovely right now, because.

1358
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,399
Speaker 7: Why do you put up with the cat that hates you?

1359
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:22,680
I can't understand that.

1360
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,199
Speaker 1: You know, she has reason, she's a long memory. But

1361
01:14:25,359 --> 01:14:28,119
I you know, I had to remove her with a

1362
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:31,359
brush one time. It's sweet and brush. When she came first.

1363
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,319
She she kept hiding behind the couch. We had her

1364
01:14:33,359 --> 01:14:35,680
there about six weeks, but like the stink a kitty letter,

1365
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,039
you had to remove her. She loves everyone else. She

1366
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:40,439
even loves like my daughter has a boyfriend in or something,

1367
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,600
she'll she'll be there looking at me, going I like him,

1368
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,119
but I don't like you, you know. But anyway, here's

1369
01:14:46,119 --> 01:14:48,840
a quick one just for for Luke alongst the similar lines.

1370
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,840
So we had a cat special by the way, so

1371
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:56,640
do check that with scary air as well. So when

1372
01:14:57,039 --> 01:15:00,119
the other guy that loves me right, Marvin arrived a

1373
01:15:00,199 --> 01:15:03,239
brother called Professor Puss, and Professor was one of these

1374
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,439
was one of these long I know it gets worse,

1375
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:12,119
pussy galore here Rich anyway, so I had this guy,

1376
01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:15,239
Professor Puss was the other cat, and he used to

1377
01:15:15,279 --> 01:15:17,680
go upstairs into a converted attic we have which I

1378
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:22,039
originally started my voice over working, and he'd go under

1379
01:15:22,079 --> 01:15:24,840
a bed. So my wife is she's not to be

1380
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,680
a mester, which she's from Belfast, you know what I mean,

1381
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,560
Like every so often herself and the girls get together

1382
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,439
down here, and even though she's been here forty years,

1383
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,520
he still has that metallic accent. And she said, that

1384
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,439
bloody cat, I think he might be under one of

1385
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,359
the bails upstairs. Will you ever go up and remove

1386
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,199
him in case he freaks out one of the girls.

1387
01:15:41,359 --> 01:15:44,359
You know now what I used to regularly do this.

1388
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,640
I go up, I get Professor Puss, I bring him down.

1389
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,960
But I had an awful habit and look look I

1390
01:15:49,039 --> 01:15:50,800
put my hand up, but it was just you know,

1391
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,960
when you're being in the just a sheer divlment. Right.

1392
01:15:53,359 --> 01:15:55,760
You might remember I don't consider myself Michael Jackson, but

1393
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,520
remember he kind of he hung his kid out over

1394
01:15:58,560 --> 01:15:59,760
the window of a hotel one time.

1395
01:16:00,079 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 7: Did indeed?

1396
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now I did it on a micro scale

1397
01:16:03,279 --> 01:16:06,279
now before people horse with me. Right, So I've been

1398
01:16:06,279 --> 01:16:09,000
coming down this little stairs that'll wind these stairs, and

1399
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,600
with Professor Pus nice just kind of hang them over

1400
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,159
the edge for a micro second, and he'd always go wow,

1401
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,159
you know, And that's just is just how I got

1402
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:19,920
making them sad, you know, middle aged kid. You know,

1403
01:16:20,039 --> 01:16:21,880
I never would hurt them, for God's sake, but I mean,

1404
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,399
I just just it was the kind of habit. And

1405
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,199
you know, haha, I got the risey at that time

1406
01:16:26,279 --> 01:16:30,039
that night it was a dirty old Friday Dublin like

1407
01:16:30,199 --> 01:16:34,800
last night kissing rain, forgive my vernacular. And you know, anyway,

1408
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,319
I had Professor Puss and here, come on, I don't

1409
01:16:37,319 --> 01:16:39,119
want you freaking out the girls and then I did

1410
01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:42,920
my usual put them over the banister. Nothing. Professor Puss

1411
01:16:43,119 --> 01:16:48,319
just hung there inert and then I went do it again.

1412
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,800
You know, definitely Professor Puss kind of went just just

1413
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,520
hanging there. So I mean, why I cuddled them. I say,

1414
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,399
all right, ye, you know you're all right, old son.

1415
01:16:59,000 --> 01:16:59,239
Speaker 7: Something.

1416
01:16:59,319 --> 01:17:01,560
Speaker 1: I took him down forgot all about him. He was

1417
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,319
killed by a car that night. It was almost like

1418
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,239
he knew. You know, that sounds fanciful. That was the

1419
01:17:08,319 --> 01:17:10,560
first time he had ever done that. And you know,

1420
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,760
I've been up to the DSPCA would bread a burden

1421
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,279
appropriate enough name lovely lady up there the interviewer for

1422
01:17:16,399 --> 01:17:19,560
radio years ago. And you know, cats and stuff and

1423
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,159
dogs they go bananas at certain conditions like full moons

1424
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:26,119
and stuff, so they have they have sensitivity.

1425
01:17:26,199 --> 01:17:29,399
Speaker 7: We don't remember, I tell you we when it's well

1426
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,720
known now that eleven or so years ago Caroline and

1427
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,560
myself lived with David with David Ike in London for

1428
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:40,000
a year and we had a German shepherd at the time.

1429
01:17:40,159 --> 01:17:42,239
She passed away a couple of years ago. Her name

1430
01:17:42,399 --> 01:17:47,399
was Jazz, beautiful animal, wonderful animal, very timid. But then

1431
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,239
She used to obsess over David's hands. And anybody who

1432
01:17:51,239 --> 01:17:54,199
knows anything about David Ike will know that David's football

1433
01:17:54,279 --> 01:17:58,039
career was cut short boy room with toyd arthritis and

1434
01:17:58,159 --> 01:18:00,800
he was crippled by it. And even to this day

1435
01:18:01,079 --> 01:18:04,279
he would have days where his hands would really really

1436
01:18:04,359 --> 01:18:07,039
play up on him. Now that David has access to

1437
01:18:08,279 --> 01:18:10,439
because of the nature of the work he's involved in,

1438
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,079
he has access to knowledge about certain things he can

1439
01:18:13,159 --> 01:18:16,199
do to alleviate the pain in his hands, of course,

1440
01:18:16,279 --> 01:18:18,640
but there were times when his hands would kind of

1441
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,920
be gnarled and they would gnarl in and Jazz would

1442
01:18:23,159 --> 01:18:26,720
climb up on the sofa and would lick and nurture

1443
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:31,600
his hands for fifteen twenty twenty five minutes, and David

1444
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:32,439
used to make us laugh.

1445
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: You know.

1446
01:18:33,079 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 7: We were like the Threes Company. We were like a

1447
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,359
sitcom and we would always fake you on, you know,

1448
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:43,159
because David would say something, well, obviously rich Jazz can

1449
01:18:43,319 --> 01:18:45,079
see the energy, and we would fake you on, you know,

1450
01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:47,119
af fuck off, you know what I mean, kind of

1451
01:18:47,159 --> 01:18:49,279
a thing for the laugh. But then I believe he

1452
01:18:49,399 --> 01:18:53,279
was right. Jazz could see what we couldn't see. We

1453
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,039
couldn't see into his hand, but she could see in

1454
01:18:57,199 --> 01:18:59,560
there and could see that the energy was all messed

1455
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,039
up and she was trying to do something about it.

1456
01:19:02,199 --> 01:19:03,279
I have no doubt in my mind.

1457
01:19:03,399 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and apparently as well, certain dogs they can

1458
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:06,840
sniff cancer.

1459
01:19:07,399 --> 01:19:10,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's a that's an established factor, isn't it.

1460
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 1: Yah amazing the show called Lucas Bulls right b o

1461
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,239
Ls and believe it or not, he's actually part of

1462
01:19:19,319 --> 01:19:23,079
the family of the Bulls family, and that the drinks family,

1463
01:19:23,199 --> 01:19:27,159
the drinks people. Yeah, and he's lovely guy, beautiful guy. Oh, Richard,

1464
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:30,279
you love him. He's into he's a film he's a

1465
01:19:30,319 --> 01:19:32,680
film director. He does a lot of commercials and stuff.

1466
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,000
So he was. You know, by the way, any when

1467
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,399
anyone listening when we say it's sky scary era e

1468
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,119
I or e which is the Gaelic for Ireland.

1469
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 7: And Manning media, you need to look up.

1470
01:19:43,079 --> 01:19:46,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, plugs in there. But you know what I'm saying is,

1471
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:51,239
you know, don't bar anybody just because they're not Irish

1472
01:19:51,279 --> 01:19:54,079
from coming on this show. I love international interludes. I

1473
01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:57,279
mean I've had the guy Billy Kirkwood, comedian on from Scotland.

1474
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,439
Great guy did a beautiful read for me as well.

1475
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:04,039
But all and sound effects too, but Lucas bulls. One

1476
01:20:04,079 --> 01:20:05,880
of the things as well as an amazing World War

1477
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:09,439
two story he told me, was that fact about dogs.

1478
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,359
You know they were employed even to kind of sniff

1479
01:20:12,399 --> 01:20:15,520
out cancers and stuff. So it does exist, you know,

1480
01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:18,800
As I said, I just once you keep an open mind. Sure,

1481
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,600
who would have thought half the things that were going

1482
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,279
through recently would have ever happened? You would have had

1483
01:20:23,279 --> 01:20:24,520
your head examined.

1484
01:20:24,279 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 7: You would Yeah, I'm going to read you one more

1485
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:30,000
message from Grace go. When I was thirteen, Richie, I

1486
01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:35,039
had an awful nightmare. My cousin, who had blonde hair female,

1487
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,640
was in a car accident with her boyfriend. He was Turkish,

1488
01:20:39,239 --> 01:20:41,600
so I had this stream I was thirteen. They died.

1489
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,640
It was incredibly vivid. She was in a dark car

1490
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,239
in a tunnel with bright white lights all in a row.

1491
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,079
I ran into my mom and dad's room and said

1492
01:20:51,079 --> 01:20:53,640
that Leanne that was her name, was in a terrible

1493
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,159
car accident. They calmed me down, said it was a

1494
01:20:56,199 --> 01:20:59,439
bad dream. The next morning we woke to the news

1495
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,359
that Princess Diyana had died in a car accident, and

1496
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,560
it was pretty much the exact same image I had

1497
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,760
seen in my bad dream. That that's interesting, isn't it.

1498
01:21:09,039 --> 01:21:11,560
That's very interesting. I'm going to be talking about something

1499
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,439
next week, which, for the bloody life of me, I

1500
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,960
can't remember off the top of my head. But it

1501
01:21:17,079 --> 01:21:21,319
is some research that is currently it's in its twenty

1502
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:26,039
fifth or twenty sixth year by Stanford University, and it's

1503
01:21:26,079 --> 01:21:30,279
looking into global consciousness and how when certain things happen

1504
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,920
in the world that cause a really emotional reaction amongst

1505
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,520
millions of people, how that emotional reaction can impact on

1506
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,840
physical systems. It's amazing, isn't it. Stanford University been doing

1507
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,600
it for years and I knew nothing about it until recently.

1508
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,720
And apparently what they do is they put these instruments

1509
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,239
around the world which generate random numbers and things, and

1510
01:21:52,319 --> 01:21:56,520
they'll just tick along generating the random numbers. But sometimes

1511
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:01,119
when really really very emotional things up in a landslide

1512
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,920
or an earthquake that kills thousands of people, or a

1513
01:22:04,039 --> 01:22:08,520
crazy terrorist attack, these systems will go haywire and they reckon.

1514
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:13,439
It's because of the emotional, energetic outpouring of people. And

1515
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,520
I'm gonna be talking about that. Next week, I'm going

1516
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,279
to give you the final word, by the way, because

1517
01:22:17,279 --> 01:22:20,760
we're we're banging out of time. Mark Manning is Burniet.

1518
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,640
I'm gonna ask Mark to come back on against soon

1519
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,840
to pick up this very conversation. Scary Era is the podcast.

1520
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,920
It's terrific. Check it out and I'll put the links on.

1521
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:32,800
But you need only look for Mark Manning Media and

1522
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,760
you'll find Mark on on X. That was a blast,

1523
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,159
by the way, and it's also very important because these

1524
01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:42,079
are important questions to be asking and talking about these subjects,

1525
01:22:42,159 --> 01:22:47,359
because there's far more to their reality than we can see, smell,

1526
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,560
taste and touch. That's my opinion. Anyway, final word to you.

1527
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:51,920
It's been brilliant Mark, Thank.

1528
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: You, it's been fantastic, and thank you so much. It's

1529
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,840
been tremendous. And thanks so much, Richie, because I know

1530
01:22:57,159 --> 01:22:59,279
it's funny, like you know, when you retweet me, it's

1531
01:22:59,359 --> 01:23:01,600
like I have this up that nobody goes into, and

1532
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,800
then when I retweet, it's suddenly like it's like an

1533
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,199
American marching band comes through when you do it and

1534
01:23:06,279 --> 01:23:09,640
you see the spike, you're very kind. Then I'm left

1535
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,880
to wonder at my empty shop again, but really quickly.

1536
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,279
If people want to get in touch and be on

1537
01:23:13,359 --> 01:23:18,880
the show, email Paranormal Ireland at ProtonMail dot com. That's

1538
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,359
Paranormal Ireland at ProtonMail dot com.

1539
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,520
Speaker 7: Thanks again, Richie, give over and enjoy the rest of

1540
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,600
the evening and let's do it again really soon, let's

1541
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,600
follow it up. I could tell Mark there's at least

1542
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:34,000
thirty messages with stories and accounts experiences people have had.

1543
01:23:34,039 --> 01:23:37,079
I'd love to get into them again soon with Mark

1544
01:23:37,159 --> 01:23:40,079
on the program. Mark Manning Media, you have been listening

1545
01:23:40,119 --> 01:23:43,920
to the Irish Act Tour voice over artists, radio presenter,

1546
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,239
a teacher and podcast host Mark Manning. It was brilliant

1547
01:23:47,239 --> 01:23:51,159
having him on. Thanks Mark, lovely departure that from hard news.

1548
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,479
I want more of them and I do mean when

1549
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,880
I see these are important subjects and topics to discuss.

1550
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,920
Back tomorrow with five. I'm to get right out now

1551
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,920
with Steve Winwood five o'clock tomorrow, Thursday's program. You enjoyed

1552
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,520
the rest of your Wednesday from the BBG in Salford,

1553
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,239
It's over and out, Pine out. Thanks again, Mark. Bye.

1554
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah's yet again. That's a display of the brilliant Richie

1555
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:21,600
Allen at work master broadcaster. You see, he spoke into

1556
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,199
the intro of the song, but he didn't crash the vocals.

1557
01:24:25,319 --> 01:24:29,199
He literally a microsecond away from the vocals stopped. That's

1558
01:24:29,279 --> 01:24:32,800
known as riding the music. My thanks to Richie Allen

1559
01:24:33,039 --> 01:24:36,199
for today's show, as well of course as the lovely

1560
01:24:36,359 --> 01:24:40,119
help Me Rhonda Hale, which indeed she did so long

1561
01:24:40,359 --> 01:24:42,720
it's been real. May your God go with you and

1562
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,039
I'll see you soon again, I hope. On scary era

1563
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:47,479
schoo