WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.399 And today we have the pleasure of having three time 2 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:06.519 female DJ artists DJ Charisma on the couch. 3 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:08.679 Ah, you were. 4 00:00:08.599 --> 00:00:12.480 Having me, Yes, thanks for TeX's cool. That's right, that's right, 5 00:00:12.560 --> 00:00:14.240 thank you for coming. I appreciate you. 6 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:16.559 I know I saw your you know your story. 7 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:18.879 I feel like I've had a lot of like similarities 8 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:21.519 as far as like the female empowerment and how much 9 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:23.839 of a movement you've made in your in your industry 10 00:00:23.879 --> 00:00:26.239 and how respected you are. That's one thing that coming 11 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:29.199 across everybody, everybody, it's such a hold you, such a 12 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:32.039 high flower or high level, and they've given your flowers. 13 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:34.159 I feel like it now. So I feel like you think. 14 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:35.560 It was only right for me to have you on 15 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:37.759 the private talk couch and get to know you personally 16 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:39.640 a little bit more and a little bit about your story. 17 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:42.640 Thank you. Let's do it do this. 18 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:45.399 So how did you get into DJing? 19 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:48.320 Was it something that you always kind of like knew 20 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:50.439 you wanted to do? Were you did you want to 21 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:52.079 be an artist yourself at one time? 22 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:54.600 Never wanted to be an artist. I always don't wanted 23 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:56.399 to be a DJ, Like I was in high school 24 00:00:56.439 --> 00:01:00.600 making mixtapes, you know, for sporting events. And went to 25 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.399 Actually when I graduated, I went to radio broadcasting school 26 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:05.439 for like a year, okay, and I was just like, 27 00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:08.159 you know, I wasn't really sold on that side of it. 28 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:10.120 I was like, you know what, I want to DJ, Okay, 29 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:12.359 Like I love new music, that's my passion. I love. 30 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:15.439 I want to break artists. I want to I want 31 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:17.480 to mix on the turn tables like these guys. You 32 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:17.879 know what I mean. 33 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:19.640 I want to do all that. So that's really what 34 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:20.159 I went for. 35 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:22.640 Was there someone that you kind of maybe like saw 36 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.319 their career path and so that you kind of like 37 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:26.599 looked up to and kind of maybe assimilate made in 38 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:28.640 your career more similar to that? 39 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:32.400 I mean, there wasn't a lot. There wasn't too many 40 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:34.959 female DJs to look up to when I was coming up, 41 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:39.359 that's for sure. Like definitely salute og Spinderella from New York, 42 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:41.480 Saw and Peppers DJ, but even hers that was way 43 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:44.079 before my generation. So like, I really didn't have too 44 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:45.599 many females I looked up to a lot of the 45 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:48.760 guys I looked up to someone also, like Angie Martinez. 46 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:52.120 You know, she was a personality, but I loved dude. 47 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:54.680 She made hit records. Yeah, and I thought that was 48 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:57.159 so cool, like she was really the only one doing it. 49 00:01:57.599 --> 00:01:59.480 So I found that intriguing too, and I knew that 50 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:02.040 DJ is going to be my path to get to 51 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:04.879 where what she was doing, you know, making hit records 52 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:06.519 like Kalid and all that good of stuff. 53 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:08.759 So what would you say in the you know, there's 54 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:10.719 not a lot of female DJs, and there's not a 55 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:12.080 lot of people that you know, you looked up to, 56 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:13.680 so you kind of made your own land and at 57 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:15.719 your own path, Like what would you say is unique 58 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:17.520 about you and your style of being a DJ? 59 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:20.120 Oh? I was just myself, you know, and I went 60 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:22.919 I I fought with for what was new and hot 61 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:25.159 in the streets, and that's what really got me buzzing 62 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:27.680 and got my name known because you know, I broke 63 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:29.840 helped break so many artists, and. 64 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.240 Just like my little tomboy ways, I was just different. 65 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:34.560 You know, there was other female DJs at that time, 66 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:38.120 but you know it was more based on looks and skills, 67 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:40.280 you know what I mean. So I just think it 68 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:42.479 stood out people just like my personality, and as it 69 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:43.479 worked the. 70 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:45.039 City, I won them over and then I won the 71 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:47.560 rest of the country over. Vibes in the world. 72 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:48.360 Baby, let's go. 73 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:51.400 I like it being me, just being myself. So what 74 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:52.919 would you say or who would you say? 75 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:53.240 Was that? 76 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:55.960 You know, you're talking about breakthrough artists and having new 77 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:58.159 people and finding them. Who was one person that kind 78 00:02:58.159 --> 00:02:59.759 of sticks out in mind that always stays with you 79 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:02.360 that you were like really stood behind him and still 80 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:03.039 too to this day. 81 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:09.960 Oh, there's a lot, shoot Ty Dallas sign ygh there 82 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:12.080 was so many, like even blue Face. I was the 83 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:16.800 first one playing blue Face on the radio. Uh. I 84 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:19.120 was the first one in La playing Cardi Bodak Yellow. 85 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:21.759 I remember I got capable by the club promoter for 86 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.719 playing it okay because they just didn't know what it 87 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:26.919 was and they always want to give the girl a 88 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:29.120 hard time. You know, you don't see too many females 89 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:30.000 headlining clubs. 90 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:32.520 If we are, we're usually opening, you know what I mean. 91 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:35.240 So I would just do it anyways though, And then 92 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:38.199 it's just so dope to see it now, Like I 93 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:40.719 could call it you cat because we showed that love. 94 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:42.000 We stayed down since day one. 95 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:44.800 So who would you say it was one of your 96 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:45.800 favorite people to work with? 97 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:46.800 Oh? 98 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:49.240 Man, Nicki Minaj, that's my I love her man. 99 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:51.840 She showed me so much love throughout the years, like 100 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:56.680 such an honor. That's queen a rap? Like who else 101 00:03:56.759 --> 00:03:59.680 John b like on some throwback shit. I actually did 102 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:02.319 a record for him. That's awesome. He hit me up. 103 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:05.240 I was like, what this John Dee? Like I was 104 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:07.840 a kid when he was like super lit. So that's 105 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:10.800 really nostalgic to me. What is that? What does that 106 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:11.520 give you? 107 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:13.240 Like? What kind of feeling does that give you to 108 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:15.759 note of these people like new and older people kind 109 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:17.319 of like fuck with you and vibe with what your 110 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:18.439 music and what you're really doing. 111 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:19.959 How does that make you feel? It trups me out, 112 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:23.399 especially when OG's hit me up, like whoa is there 113 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:25.639 someone that you haven't worked with that you have like 114 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:28.519 someone that you would want to a future in the future. 115 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:30.639 I'm still trying to rock with Rihanna, re re hit 116 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:32.399 me up, you know what I'm saying, hit me every Rea. 117 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:35.000 Yeah, I don't know that I am there too, because 118 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:36.279 that's when my girl crushed forever. 119 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:39.720 I would love to do anything DJ for her at 120 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:42.279 a party, anything, just I would love to rock with 121 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:45.839 Rebe for sure. She's amazing. Like a lot of the ogs, 122 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.839 have hit me like Mariah Carey showed me love Usher. 123 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:51.519 It's just such a trip. It's like, wow, I really 124 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:52.839 grew up listening to you guys. 125 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:55.199 This is crazy. 126 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:57.480 I am. Yeah, you know I got to do a 127 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:01.000 song with Little Kim like that crazy, Like this is 128 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:01.639 just nuts. 129 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:03.600 What is your favorite body of work that you've been 130 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:07.000 a part of. My song with Chris Brown and Dage Loaf. 131 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:11.319 Okay, it went viral. It you know, we re released it, 132 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:13.480 then it went viral a couple like three years later 133 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.600 on TikTok. It became a big challenge and I had 134 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.279 like all these crazy little you kid YouTubers doing it. 135 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:22.240 I was like, this is nuts. So that record was 136 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:23.839 I got to be there with Chris when we were 137 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:26.399 making it, So that record is super special to me. 138 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:28.439 What do you we talk about? You know that it 139 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:30.959 kind of went viral the second time. We're kind of 140 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:33.680 around and that had already been released. Talk about how 141 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:36.319 you know, with TikTok and all these social media services 142 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:38.399 kind of changed the game and how you maybe operate 143 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:39.560 or do DJing as well. 144 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:42.839 That's completely changed the game because like now just put 145 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:46.279 it out and you never know something could take off. 146 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.120 Three years later, like the TikTok challenge. It was nuts, 147 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:51.720 like wow, and your streams go up and you just 148 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:55.199 never know, so put it out, put it everywhere. The 149 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.639 game's changing even more. I'm curious to see what's going 150 00:05:57.680 --> 00:05:59.879 to happen in the next till December. 151 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:02.639 So you stay current with music? Are you staying current 152 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:04.759 with trends like the social media? Are you on TikTok? 153 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:07.720 Are there media platforms that we can follow you? 154 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:09.639 I was always a little nerd. I feel like I 155 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:11.959 was raising that era win all this was being presented 156 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:12.480 to a swam. 157 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:14.319 I'm on it as much as possible. 158 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:17.040 Twitch. I was one of the first ones doing live 159 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:22.839 shows on Twitch before covid. You know it, YouTube everything, TikTok, 160 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:25.360 whatever's next I'm waiting for because I know something's coming, 161 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:26.800 Something's about to happen. 162 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:27.839 Instagram, Instagram. 163 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:29.279 You fucked up with the blue check thing. 164 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.600 Have you participated in any of the TikTok dances or 165 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:35.560 any of the like viral moments when you were born 166 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:36.279 in quarantine? 167 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:38.560 Did you do anything or try it out? See? I 168 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:39.879 definitely did. I did want her to. 169 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:41.959 I had to do my own challenge, okay, and I 170 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:43.480 got Nick Cannon to do it with me, So it 171 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:43.879 was epic. 172 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:47.040 It was right, that's awesome. Not many people can say that. 173 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:51.519 Describe something that's exciting in your life right now. 174 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:56.720 In my life right now, watching my daughter become her 175 00:06:56.720 --> 00:07:00.480 own little person, like she's getting gigs now. She actually 176 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:03.519 just got booked to do a voiceover for the Lol 177 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:05.439 Dolls Okay, their cartoon series. 178 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:07.120 So those two episodes just came out. 179 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.279 She's one of the little cartoon characters. That's awesome. So 180 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:11.879 that's d I to be. That's cool. 181 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:14.360 So has she kind of wanting to follow in your 182 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:16.360 footep as far as entertainment world? Is that kind of 183 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:18.000 how she got like a taste for it? Did she 184 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:20.800 know that she like kind of her surances we're behind that. 185 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:23.199 Oh, she's been around us as a baby, so it 186 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:25.399 kind of But she's not interested in what I do, 187 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:28.240 but she is interested in like things like that. 188 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:30.480 But I think that's fascinating because it's like, you know, 189 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:32.680 you are a DJ, but it's also like a whole 190 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.759 world to it. There's nightlife, there's entertainment, there's everybody from 191 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:38.240 you know, different types of celebrities to actors and actors 192 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:40.360 that are kind of a part of your world kind 193 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:42.759 of kind of in a sense, but a third degree 194 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:44.519 in a sense because it also kind of like looking 195 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:46.879 and following people on Instagram. We think we know what 196 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:48.879 we see, but we don't know who they really are. 197 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:50.560 So it's like you kind of get the feel for 198 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:52.800 the world and kind of dabble what you're allowed to 199 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:54.399 be in. And I think it's cool to kind of 200 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:57.279 have a good structure of knowing the good parts of 201 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:59.600 those things because so many people have had bad experiences 202 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:02.240 and not that you know, every business has good and bad, 203 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:04.399 but it's like when you have a structured system in 204 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:06.360 there to know that you can basically do anything you 205 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.879 want and even be the voice of a bradstall. 206 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:11.279 Right, crazy, right, it's crazy. 207 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:15.279 What is a personal accomplishment that you're most proud of? 208 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:22.639 Personal accomplishment that I'm most proud of, besides giving birth 209 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:23.160 to my daughter. 210 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:28.000 It could be anything from rewards you want or people 211 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:29.839 maybe that you said, you know, you're you know, really 212 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:32.480 into like your the song that you did with Chris Brown. 213 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:34.679 But backing that, is there something like a highlight in 214 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:36.840 your career that kind of stands out above any of 215 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:37.200 the rest. 216 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:42.879 Bringing the entire West Coast sound back being like the 217 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:47.200 head catalyst with the young California family. The way we 218 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:50.120 did it and the way we brought attention back to 219 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.480 the West Coast when it was gone for so long, Yeah, 220 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:54.639 that was probably the most proud thing I've ever done. 221 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:56.159 Can we talk a little bit more about that? 222 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.240 How did you go about doing that and making it 223 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:00.720 such a big force because it's such a music How 224 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.159 did you reintroduce it to a way to like let 225 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:05.639 new people kind of introduce the old stuff and like 226 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:06.840 really still be put on. 227 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:08.879 Well, you've been out in Cali for a while, so 228 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:11.039 you should maybe you know what I'm saying when I say, 229 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:14.200 like in twenty ten and nine, before the jerking era 230 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:17.399 and the Hiphi movement in the Bay La and in 231 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:20.519 the Bay, it wasn't like everyone was scared of the 232 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.679 gangster rap at that point. South took over completely, you 233 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:25.399 know what I mean, and music and you didn't hear 234 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:29.000 no West Coast artists on the radio at all. It 235 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:31.399 may be a game record, but you know that was it. 236 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:34.399 So like the way we did it was we were 237 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.360 all the new booties in radio in the Bay. Fresno, 238 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:42.039 Santa Barbara, La San Diego, Vegas, and we each one 239 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:43.600 of us we teamed up. We made a crew called 240 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.879 Young California, and we took advantage of our night shows. 241 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:48.360 We each had a night show where we were allowed 242 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:50.960 to break records and we just teamed up and went hard, 243 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:55.000 Like I helped break stage the Gemini, Red Nose and 244 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:58.240 gas Pedal and all the Bay records, and they helped 245 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:00.960 me vice versa. And by doing that it worked. It 246 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:03.919 was crazy, Like we had people talking about Young Tokyo 247 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:08.159 like why g like all this crazy stuff, So that's awesome. 248 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:08.879 I feel unity. 249 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.559 It was unity, you know, like really believe and stand 250 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:13.720 by something because most times it's like one person and 251 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:15.720 then it's like if you don't collectively. 252 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:16.480 I'll do it together. It takes it. 253 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:18.440 It doesn't work because you know, it does take a 254 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:20.320 you know, a well oiled machine to kind of get 255 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.799 those things. And did you ever get lash back for 256 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:25.320 you know, kind of playing some of these records because. 257 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.519 It's a battle. To this day, I still get in trouble. 258 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:30.679 I get a trouble shout out to my bosses. I 259 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:31.120 get in. 260 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.720 Trouble every day, Like what does trouble look like? Does 261 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:36.000 that mean they like just tell you it's loud. That's 262 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:37.799 like get a little slack, or it's. 263 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.639 Like don't go too crazy, like you know, don't go 264 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:45.320 too crazy. But I've also proven myself for like fifteen 265 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:46.360 years now, so you. 266 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:49.240 Know, is there going to be anybody that kind of 267 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:52.279 like you thought was the one and it didn't work out, 268 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:53.039 like kind of flop. 269 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:56.879 Yeah, definitely. There's a lot of situations. Every situation is different. 270 00:10:56.919 --> 00:10:59.759 That's a good question. There has been I don't want 271 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:01.600 to see their name because I love them so much, 272 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:04.440 but I just saw them take it to the top. 273 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:07.519 And blow it so literally it was personal. 274 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:08.919 So it was like they just either didn't do the 275 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:10.240 work or got caught up kind of thing, and not 276 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:11.559 because of their talent, wasn't there. 277 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:14.159 I just think everyone needs to understand if you want 278 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:15.919 to be an artist, there is a lot to this. 279 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:17.879 It is a business at the end of the day, 280 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:20.799 for sure. Like I've seen and I've been fans of 281 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:23.919 some of the most talented people, but they don't know 282 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:27.279 how to be a star, and it just it'll hinder 283 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:30.120 their career. You're not having the right team, you know 284 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.639 what I mean, You just making the certain moves they 285 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:33.720 could just crush your career. 286 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:35.159 There's a lot of things that can go down. So 287 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:38.960 that's sad that it hurts my heart seeing that, especially 288 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:40.559 when they're really fucking talented. 289 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:42.519 Yeah, it's like, oh, I. 290 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:44.159 Mean there's a difference between It's like, you know, you 291 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:46.080 have to be hungry, but there's other levels to just 292 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.919 being outhering. There's you know, there's discipline. You know, there's 293 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:50.639 a lot of things like that that really does take 294 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:52.440 a lot of more effort at people. It's not just 295 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:54.919 as easy, just like it's not making music, as you know. 296 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:56.960 There's a lot of the levels to that. So I 297 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:59.480 feel like it does it's unfortunate that that happens because 298 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.440 it's like and sense they say the one hit wonders 299 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:02.600 or like where did that person get? 300 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:05.519 Or you know, think about this COVID alone, how many 301 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:08.559 people have came and gone Where are they for sure? 302 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:11.360 I mean, like where are they? We want to know? 303 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:14.440 We know, what do you think about nowadays? 304 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:15.120 How you know music? 305 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:17.759 You know, we talked about from TikTok influences changing music 306 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:20.120 kind of where it's like what about these one hit 307 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:22.120 wonders where they come up and they blow up like 308 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:25.440 these songs from you know, everyone from Ice, Spice, and 309 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:27.600 all these like new kind of artists that like kind 310 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:29.200 of pop off and you don't really know where it 311 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:31.480 came from, and then now they're like the next star. 312 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:35.200 It's crazy, right, it's crazy. I don't know. 313 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:36.799 I'm still trying to figure it out too. 314 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:38.159 Sometimes do you still. 315 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:40.120 Rock with their like records and you know, things like that, 316 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:41.720 or do you, like, do you stay with that kind 317 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:44.000 of trend and not necessarily Ice Spice because she's become 318 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:46.279 done some more records and sex. But there's I can't 319 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:48.240 think off top of the name, but some that kind 320 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:50.200 of like don't even sound like they should even be 321 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:51.720 on a on a radio playing. 322 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.279 As a DJ from my point of view, because like 323 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:57.840 I do radio, I do series XM, and but I 324 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:01.840 also do clubs and parties and young events. So like 325 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.639 when the two don't translate, that's what makes me question that, 326 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:07.600 you know, like, there are definitely times where the labels 327 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:11.879 will push things on you, and I usually don't pay 328 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:12.960 attention to those type. 329 00:13:12.759 --> 00:13:14.600 Of records, But do you think it doesn't translate as 330 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:18.000 far those places because of geographical places? Because like you know, 331 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:19.840 it's you know some things like again from east coast 332 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:22.559 to west coast, the vibes are very that, you know. 333 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:24.320 That's why I like to travel to where I like 334 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.360 to talk to my out of town DJ friends. 335 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:28.159 I stay in constant contact. 336 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:30.440 Like ooh, it's this real, It's is legit. And then 337 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:33.039 so like the Ice Spice thing, like it is like 338 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:37.279 these little kids fucking lover her. It's crazy. So but 339 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:39.440 then you got other cats. It's like, I'm just like, man, 340 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:40.840 you're gonna have to show it. You're gonna have to 341 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:43.360 show me. And if I don't see it in the streets, 342 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:43.759 I'm just. 343 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:45.039 Gonna stay away from it for sure. 344 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:47.519 And then there's also records that are massive in the 345 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:50.120 fucking streets. But then the main media just won't give 346 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:51.799 it its shine and it's frustrating. 347 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:55.559 Why do you think it's all able based speaking of 348 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:57.399 the money they're pushing, or do you think you know, 349 00:13:57.759 --> 00:13:59.960 there's been recent things on the social media being like, 350 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:02.120 you know, if they're basically doing it off of what's 351 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:04.759 trending and if they're gonna put money behind something because 352 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:05.240 that's what. 353 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:07.320 People are listening to, you know, And that thinks. 354 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.840 Every single song and artists is different. Some songs and 355 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:12.480 labels are invested way more in and we won't know it, 356 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:14.840 and then it's like what it just doesn't make sense. 357 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:17.720 But then there's certain artists that are signed to the labels, 358 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:20.279 like dude, they're fucking poping catch it, help them do 359 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.480 what you need to do now, and they don't do it, 360 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:24.720 you know, So it's really frustrating. That's why I say 361 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:27.879 artists just stay independent as long as you can, because 362 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:30.360 now now the way I Spice is moving, she's making 363 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.519 major moves like sure her own masters. 364 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:34.759 Yes, I just saw that. 365 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:37.240 Yeah, he don't put that's big. That's really big for sure. 366 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:39.039 You know, content, especially in the world that we live 367 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:41.159 in now, it's like content creator sort of thing. You know, 368 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:44.279 owning your ownership is the key to everything. It's because 369 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:46.840 you know, you got to own it or somebody else's 370 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:48.720 that's it's gonna make money off of it. 371 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:48.960 You know. 372 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:51.080 Even me, I saw the transition of radio and it's 373 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:52.600 to the point I too, like I want to own 374 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:55.440 everything myself at this point because it's like it's got 375 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:58.039 to move a little different. We're we're the creators of it. 376 00:14:58.120 --> 00:14:58.799 Bottom line. 377 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:01.039 Some people are anybody they need us. 378 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:03.039 Some people are irreplaceable. 379 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:06.559 Agreed, So you say you like to go you know, travel, 380 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:08.000 that's part of obviously one of your jobs that you 381 00:15:08.039 --> 00:15:10.080 do a DJ and parties and things. What's just one 382 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:12.519 of your favorite parts of your job, the moving parts 383 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:14.799 that who you are that makes up DJ charisma? What 384 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:16.519 is your favorite type of. 385 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:22.360 Work to do? Uh, festivals are fun, Like just when 386 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:22.919 you get. 387 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:26.879 A five minute set five minutes, you just go crazy 388 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:29.480 and watching that and feeling that electricity is probably the 389 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:30.159 best thing ever. 390 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:33.720 And then the second best thing ever is watching someone's 391 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:36.120 live change in their whole family's life change because it's 392 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:38.600 something I was a part of and help push for them. 393 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:42.000 That's that's priceless. That's cool, priceless. 394 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:44.840 How do you prepare for something like a festival? You're 395 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:47.080 doing a five minute set, You're going and there's all 396 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:47.639 these people. 397 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:49.480 How do you prepare for something like that? 398 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:50.080 Oh? 399 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:52.720 Man, I'm used to it now. I just research, you 400 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:53.200 know what I mean? 401 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:57.320