Speaker 1: You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers
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link in the show notes. Thank you, Hey, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 1: You doing great? And this is Opal Creek just north
of Detroit. Is that right?
Speaker 5: I don't know if there's a Detroit in Oregon, but
it's kind of closer to Portland.
Speaker 1: I'd say, Okay, yeah, I think I know what you're
talking about. All right, awesome, Well, yeah, feel free to
share what your experience was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's nothing too crazy. But I didn't see anything.
I'll start with that. But so we were at Opal
Creek and there was a little offshoot of a campsite
that's right next to like a waterway, and it it
is like a river, it was more like a creek
where we worked. It was really shallow you could easily
like walk across. So anyway, we were out there camping,
we haven't seen anybody. We went to all the tourist sites,
we went to the actual Opal Creek where the natural
water slides are, and we went hiking all around. We
did not see a soul. We went up to what
was that, it's a job Oone Flats, which is the
old mining town. We like walked all the way up there.
We hiked all the way up through all these old
abandoned mine shafts, and we got up to the town
Joblone Flats. There's nobody there, Okay. And so anyway, later
that night, right our campsite, and I fall asleep, well
actually before we went to sleeper out at the campfire,
and these we haven't seen anybody all day. And then
right as it's getting dark, like it's already pitch black.
It's like nine eight or nine at night, and these
two people pull up to the campsite next to us
and they're like unloading, and we're getting kind of freaked out.
We're like, who the heck does that in the middle
of the night. It just was so strange, and so
we were like called, We're like, okay, well, we're just
gonna go in our tent and let it be. And
so we went in our tent and we had had
like some Jiffy pop so we had like some popcorn
out like by our campsite that had like gone astray.
But here in Oregon, we don't really have to worry
out about bears. Maybe a cougar here and there, but
it's not really a worry to leave food out in Oregon.
It's not like Montana where you can we have to
put your food under the ground or whatever. And so
I go to sleep and then I wake up and
it sounds like there's like little pebbles hitting our tent
and there is like a like we didn't obviously, we
weren't thinking it was like bigfoot or anything. It was
not what we thought it was at all. At the moment,
I thought it was squirrels jumping on our tent, like
trying to eat the popcorn or something, and it just
it kept going and it wouldn't stop, and they were
just like, it kept hitting our tent. And I wasn't
really too worried about it, except I was asleep and
I had woken up to these sounds and my husband
was holding an axe, and I was like, what's going on?
He said, I I don't know what it was, but
I heard a growl and some like low pitch growls.
I don't know, I'm terrified, and so we basically stayed
up the whole night and there and we were like,
we don't know what's hitting our tent.
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 5: And then he was hearing low pitch growls. I didn't
hear any growls, but yeah, And so I asked him
later because I didn't think it was bigfoot until I
started listening to Sasquatch chronicles and I was like, dang,
those people who pulled up to our tent, like it
was crazy. There was two of them, just like you hear,
and I don't know. It was just really strange after
the fact, and I asked my husband a little while
after that, thinking like, how do we actually have like
a big foot encounter?
Speaker 2: And I was like, what did you hear? Like what
was that?
Speaker 5: And you said, honestly, I don't know. I was like
in fireflight. I was just holding onto my axe, ready
to go, and that's my encounter and that's really it. Wow.
Speaker 1: So I know exactly pretty much exactly where you are
once you said job Own Flats, because my guinness, you
were in the one of the most active areas in
Oregon when it comes to Bigfoot. I mean you're right
under the Oregon Bigfoot Highway Detroit, Oregon, just south of
its super active. I mean you were right in the
middle of it, and so I wouldn't be surprised if
that's exactly what happened. But my goodness, thank you so
much for coming up.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, I've told the story before and everyone's like, oh,
you know, probably is nothing. But like the area we
were in, right by the water. The two people who
came up, I don't know, it was weird, but yeah,
thanks for listening.
Speaker 1: Hither, how are you hey, I'm doing well, How are
you hey? Doing? Great?
Speaker 2: Show here?
Speaker 1: Oh? Thank you? I try to do this every so often.
Speaker 3: Perfect Well, just real quick. It's it's a place. It's
called Johnson shut In State Park. It's around one hundred
is miles so south I think southwest of Saint.
Speaker 2: Louis, Missouri.
Speaker 1: Sorry those oh Johnson's Shut INDs got.
Speaker 2: It, Johnson's Shut in Missouri.
Speaker 3: And it is generally around the Black River area.
Speaker 2: It's just Black River runs through every place down around there.
Speaker 3: And I've seen other sightings as when I was younger
with this one who was the most prominent, uh, my
father and I was fishing on a spillway when I
was about fourteen years old, fifteen.
Speaker 2: It smelled just really pungent, like you know, the wind
was blowing. I'm like, well, there.
Speaker 3: Must be rotten the fish laying, you know, like it
was on the spillway. We were on the bank, and
but we didn't see any fish. It's like, you know,
something smells really bad.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: We kind of look over. It might have been dead fish.
I'm not sure, but it's just something was just not right,
you know, the scenery. So I looked over over and
I'm like, this is a really big beaver across the
spillway eating a fish.
Speaker 2: And you know, around fourteen.
Speaker 3: Fifty years old, like looking across it's about maybe forty
yards maybe you know, on the spit what's coming through
and there's mist in the air. We get to really
look and the things stood up on behind legs. It
wasn't there, and it wasn't a bear. It's about the
tall it's the fish. And from everything we just kind
of froze. From everything we could gather, it was it
was a young bigfoot because when we looked up, we
seem two other ones, like a darker colored one and
a lighter colored one, almost like a blondish color, like
like brown. And they were probably eight and nine foot tall,
standing next to each other on the tree line. And
I'm assuming that it was like a child, because I
think they got startled in and run up to I
guess his parents, the other.
Speaker 2: Ones up there.
Speaker 3: My father and I said, like maybe forty fifty yards
from these things. Just you know, it's just like the
blatant obviously, you know, and it's before we had cell phones,
you know, take pictures.
Speaker 2: Didn't expect anything, so wow, super obvious. You know, they're
out in the open like that.
Speaker 3: But it's just you know, and it's just me and
my father. Nobody really believes us, but you know, we
don't mind. Dad never lied, but it's like that would
have been a perfect opportunity if given the decent camber
to take. You know, it was a family, so that
it's like and we we hear things that we've seen
what we know the next river river too, So it's
just they're out there.
Speaker 2: It's just you know, they know how to hide.
Speaker 1: So that's all absolutely. So I missed how tall you
think the one that that you saw was the first one?
I missed the height on that I.
Speaker 3: Think probably around five foot tall, I would say, because
I thought it was just like it looked like a
man in a suit. It looked like a man and
like a little monkey sack or something. But because the
spillway was coming through and there was a miss but
then they it up, you could tell it was just
it wasn't a.
Speaker 2: Man in a suit. So I'd say five ish but
tall something like that.
Speaker 1: Maybe, Wow, Okay from interesting how I gauge it worth day.
They were huge, So it's such. It's such a wild
area too, because it is like right outside Mark Twain
and it's yes, uh kind of close to Tomstack Mountain,
which I've gotten stuff there.
Speaker 3: It's just like right on the other side, I believe.
So yeah, there's all sorts of activity, not just me,
like I know other people who have any heard things too.
Speaker 2: All around there. It's just kind of like the other
and nobody really thinks anything about it. So just how
it is.
Speaker 1: Was it, uh, did you smell anything or was it
making any noises or anything like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it smelled sour. That's what we were thought were like,
because we went there before, like a month before, and
we seem like dead car and it's like, well, they're you.
Speaker 2: Know, the spillway on other side, it's kind of it
looks like.
Speaker 3: A creek, kind of like in the spillway, it's blowing
water out, you know, from the dam up above. It's
kind of like a creek. So they were like washed
up fish they were smelling. There weren't any of this
time we assumed there was. It's what it's going like,
sour smell almost like really bad body order.
Speaker 2: I mean kind of like after we like.
Speaker 3: It's like a like a big armpit, if I should say,
just like trash. So I don't know if it was
it or not that it was. I've never smelled anything.
Speaker 1: Like it since, so that is wild.
Speaker 2: That's probably it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm trying to think was it is it
Saint Francois County, Missouri. Is that how you say it?
Speaker 2: That would be?
Speaker 3: That would be I think bordering maybe on Saint Francis
County or Reynolds.
Speaker 1: County, Okay, because I've gotten a ton of stuff just
east of there too, that Saint Francois County and Madison County, Missouri. Yes,
just that whole area is totally bonkers. I don't know
what it is.
Speaker 2: I grew up in Renalds County. It's just down there.
Speaker 3: Black River runs all the way through back around there
in the mountains, and there's just all sorts of state of.
Speaker 2: Things that go on down there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's And remind me, did you did you
then watch them walk away?
Speaker 2: Or yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, we stood there next to each other like like
I I want to say, I'm a parked here, maybe
forty fifty yards away or hunters, we can have a
good estimate. And maybe I mean just the younger when
I'm assume it's younger kind of just had a fish
in its tan and held it like you you would
a puppy, or just kind of hugged it, you know,
and walked straight up the hill. And I'm assuming it's
parents were just they walked straight out from the tree line,
probably three or four foot apart from each other, looking
over at us. Didn't make a sound, didn't do anything,
and the younger one, I assume, just.
Speaker 2: Walked up to it, and the other one kind of
like put its hand on its back and dropped its hand,
and they both and the.
Speaker 3: Child or the younger one walked ahead of them, and
they just like turned like we weren't even there anymore,
just followed.
Speaker 2: It up in the boat the tree line. You know, Hey,
how's it going right?
Speaker 1: Have you looked into that specific area to see if
there's been other sightings to that Johnson's shut.
Speaker 3: In, Yes, just just throughout the years, and just other
people like, yeah, we've seen you thought we'd seen different
things like them, and some of one of my I
guess there was a friend or a friends and they
see something similar.
Speaker 2: To that, like one of them was swimming down there
in another part of it or or next to like a.
Speaker 3: Creep and they see it was like walking out of
a creek. So that was a couple of years, two
three years after I'd witnessed that. So it's just people.
People shrugged that off. I mean but you know, anybody's gonna.
Speaker 1: Want to hunt them, hopefully not hopefully not. What year
was that again, it's just.
Speaker 3: Part of it, uh, fourteen or fifteen, so let me
see about ninety yich or so.
Speaker 2: Say more a math.
Speaker 1: So that's awesome. Do you uh? Do you follow sasquatch
theory as well?
Speaker 2: No, I just I don't really. I've just been kind of.
Speaker 3: I get my feeling like I'll jump to one thing
from another, but it's all so very interesting. It's like,
I think there's so much evidence out there, the points
stores or something, then there's not, you know, and I
think I just I think if there is, we all
should be you know, allowed to know. You know, all
that consists of. I just you know, things are hidden
for a reason. I seen it, either for us or
for something else. I mean, but you know, people get
crazy and things like that. You know that would be horrible.
Speaker 2: So it's just I think it's just something in our
nature that's always been there. It just needs to be
left alone.
Speaker 1: It does kind of unlock some primal thing when you
hear you know, when you hear that, even the sounds,
So it's it's very strange. But thank you so much,
for coming up and sharing about southern Missouri. I appreciate it.
It's crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: All Right, we've got Have I seen him? That's a
great question. So the close here's the closest I've gotten
to that. I was in Stakida, Oregon, last July twenty
five with a researcher whose name was Frank Canister. He's
passed away now, and we were I was recording his
stories and We're out in the woods about thirty miles
and I'm facing him and he's looking over my shoulder
telling his story, and all of a sudden, his face
goes totally pale, totally pale. Drops. I've never seen a
face go pale and drop before. It's crazy. And I
was like, Frank, Frank, are you okay? Because I thought
he was having like a freak out or something. And
he's like, dude, I just saw something walk yards over
your shoulder tree, a tree, tall, dark. It's like, oh
my goodness, it's the closest. It was right there. That
was the closest. It was crazy. So that's the closest
I've gotten is probably twenty yards behind me. There you go.
But you can watch that documentary I made about Frank
on the Big for Society YouTube channel. There are you?
Speaker 6: Yeah here, let me turn my volume up. Take a yeah, okay,
there we go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, Okay, thanks for coming up.
Speaker 6: I told my story once before, about a year back.
It was kind of a lengthy story with myself or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it with you okay.
Speaker 6: And but I also have my main reason for coming
up is asking a question about the bigfoot. Sure, I've
had two years of a bigfoot that did live with me.
I told that story. It lived on my ten acres
property and then I had undeveloped property all around me,
so but it liked to be near me for some reason.
But that was the story that I had told you
once before.
Speaker 1: Can you remind me of the area this was in.
I'm trying to make sure I have the right one
in my mind.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm in Washington State, Okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
Maybe you could recall when I told you I had
a rock fight with it. We were throwing rocks back
and forth at each other.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, I'm that lady, all right, yeah yeah yeah,
and uh and he was not a friendly bigfoot. He
never did any harm to me. Or my children, or
my husband.
Speaker 2: But he.
Speaker 6: Did just rid of all the wildlife in the whole area,
I'm telling you, including all my chickens, you know, and
my neighbor's dog. And you know, he attacked the animal
and would screen constantly every night. You know, our neighbors
were knocking on my door wanting to know if I
was okay. But anyway, my question is okay. I that
bigfoot in particular, I.
Speaker 2: Found out.
Speaker 6: He was not black, he was not brown in color.
He was pure white.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay.
Speaker 6: And since then I had moved from that place. I
had to They sold the house and we had to move,
and we moved about, oh, I don't know, maybe fifteen
miles up the road. And when we first moved in.
It was a few weeks later that I detected what
I used to offer the first big foot, and this one,
in part, this is a different one now that showed
up here where we moved, and I used to get
actual fear, not even seeing it, not smelling it, just
his presence, to the point that I wouldn't go outdoors.
I was afraid. I wasn't that way with the other
one at all, but this one had given me this
horrible fear, and I fear nothing, as you well know.
You know, when I'm having a rock fight with it
with a big foot, I feared nothing. I confront everything.
This thing kept me in the house, and I would
hear this thing, just like the other one, holler and
scream at night. Okay, it decided to move over across
the main highway over into Fort Lewis, and it would
holler and scream at night over there, and well, all
of a sudden, the screaming and hollering stopped. Now I
know of a couple guys who live over there in
the Fort Lewis, there in the military, and they told
they both told me, oh that there is no way
they would have allowed that to continue. They either got
in one way or the other, and that's why there
was no more screaming from there. But I did get
a glimpse of it before it took off. I got
a glimpse of it where my fencing is. One part
of my fencing is old wood, and the boards were
falling out, and I got a glimpse of his coloring
in between the vacant boards, the gaps. And now remember
the first bigfoot I had was solid white. This one
was not brown again, not black either again or white.
It was a golden color, a yellowish golden color. Have
you ever heard of that?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, there is. Well I just looked it up
real quick. The closest I've so. Okay, one way to
look at this is, uh, there's a creature that was
seen in Ontario, Canada where it had like yellow, blondish
hair on its head and they actually called it old
Yellow Top. That was between like the early nineteen hundreds
to nineteen seventy and that was in Ontario, Canada. I
do get a lot of like people that say it
has a rust color to it, the white white Bigfoot
I hear quite a bit actually, but yellow, I don't
know if I've ever heard that one from.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a golden golden yeah, yeah. And it
was daylight that it was right outside, right out in
the open. I have trees along there, you know. It
was amongst the trees. Not a lot of trees, but
I have trees along that fence. And it was on
the other side of the fence, and the sun was
shining and its fur, its hair whatever they call it,
was shiny and it was not dull and dirty. It
was shiny and It was a golden color, golden yellow,
more golden than yellow, but golden. It was a very
beautiful color, very beautiful color. And this was about twelve
years ago. Okay, wow, But it stuck around across the
street after that, you know, when I first seen it
twelve years ago, it stuck around for about a year
between me and Fort Lewis before they captured it or
done away with it.
Speaker 1: So that's a great question from Umbri and the chat.
So do you remember anything specific about how it would
move or how fast it was?
Speaker 6: No, because, like I told you, this thing, I had
genuine fear, and I feared nothing. So I stayed in
the house. I wouldn't go out, only during the daylight.
And that's when I did get a glimpse of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha. Was it leaving things around your property ever,
like weird weird objects or animals that were no longer
living anything?
Speaker 6: I thought, And well, it would like break a lot
of bushes and trees and all of that along my
property line along the fencing, and it used to. Yeah,
and to the point there wasn't much left. So that
was intentional. There was no accident. I don't know why
it was doing that, but it was just joined everything
along there along my fence. And whether you know, because
I wouldn't let it in, or or it knew I
wouldn't have anything to do with it. I don't know
why it would be doing that, but that was destruction.
That was, you know, definitely destruction that it was.
Speaker 1: Sure were your neighbors having issues as well?
Speaker 6: No, because, like I said, I first moved in and
didn't know the neighbors quite yet.
Speaker 1: Okay, got it, got it, thank you, thank you so.
But it's so that was twelve years ago and you're
still in the same.
Speaker 6: Area, right, Yes, same house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're saying the Fort Lewis guys took took care of.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what these two guys in the military told
me that there was no way they were going to
tolerate it because it was screened from over there in
their property, in their their land. And now it stuck
around about the same amount of time that the wh
at the other house, the white one was at because
that one, the first one, stayed with me for about
two years, constantly regularly for two years, and this one
just about the same amount of time. And I noticed
that with this one, it brought my attention to it.
That it was a month of February that it started
its screaming, this is the golden one. And then it
screamed for about a week or two and then stopped
the following year. Now, I used to sit by the window,
even in the wintertime with the window open. My computer
was right there by the window. That's why for fresh air.
And the following year, same thing, the month of February.
It was silent the whole year until then the month
of February, and it would start that screaming again. And
that's what I believe. I could be wrong, but I
believe that's mating.
Speaker 2: Season, right.
Speaker 1: I've heard that too. Yeah, very interesting. There's there's so
many stories I've heard about encounters around the Fort Lewis area,
and even things where they have dispatched them. I have
to be careful how I say that or yeah, you know,
things like that, and and I've almost had people come
on record about it, but they get very they're very
scared to talk about their encounters. And usually these are
military related encounters too. It was when they're in the
military in Fort Lewis. So I've not had the chance
to talk to anyone yet, but it would not surprise
me that that happened. If you're in that area, you
know what I mean. Yeah? Wow wow. So now it
sounds like there's nothing going on, which how do you
feel about this? Do you wish? Do you wish there
were things going on?
Speaker 6: Or well, you know, the last year and a half,
I have not lived in this house, even though I
own the house. But I became ill and needed to
be under care. I came back home six months ago,
so I really don't know what's going on around here,
if anything yet, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay. I hope that you are able to get the
care that you need and that is taken care of.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm back so that's yeah, that's an improvement. Yeah,
I'm back home. So that's a good that's good news.
Speaker 1: What what an adventure. The closest white bigfoot I've ever
heard to your area is es Decada, Oregon. The same
gentleman that I went out in the woods with a researcher.
He said that in his area there was an albino.
So it was white, but it also had pink eyes
and this wild wild stuff. He would talk to it
through sign language. Absolutely incredible stuff. Yeah, thank you for
sharing your experience. Please keep us informed different those.
Speaker 4: Warn people, worn people, you know, if they have no
fear with them and they want to, you know, be
okay with them hanging around, Be careful with them around
your children, because that's when the white one became violent.
Speaker 6: And uh yeah, and when he seen my two daughters
outside playing, they were just little, great school kids. And
then he became violent and I had to go out
and stop him. And he started breaking large trees. Actually
he wasn't just shaking them at first. He was then
he started throwing rocks at me, and his grunting and
growling and all that hoot and hollering that he was
doing down there. And he was down in a little
gully on my property, right off the edge of my yard,
and he would be shaking, and then next thing I know,
he started throwing rocks. So I picked them up and
I threw them right back at him, and that continued
for a while. Some of the rocks were quite large
where it took two hands for me to pick up,
you know, and try to throw it down the gully.
I think I might have hit him with one of them,
because then he started Actually, these are fairly large trees
he actually was breaking them in half down with my
trees would go down. Oh yeah, and that that really
made me angry and he it all started because my
kids were out the yard plane and he was shaking
the trees and screaming and yelling at them also, and
that's what created you know, me going out there and
the rock fight and all of that to make him leave.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So you know, I asked people if they go off
camping and that, keep an eye on their kids. Please
keep an eye on the kids, because I actually witnessed it,
his anger over my children.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that is that is a good good warning for
people to hear it. Thank you so much for coming out, ma'am.
I appreciate.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yes, I just had to know about the colorings that
I'm seeing the white, and I've been so curious that
I figured I've been watching you when you come on.
You know, I've kept silent for a long time, but
I'm just tired of wondering what specialty are they? They're
at all? I don't know, you know, are they certain breed?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 6: Do they come from somewhere else?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 6: I don't know, And I just needed an answer, that's all.
So I appreciate your help.
Speaker 1: Good. I hope I was able to maybe get you
some information, but hopefully you can continue to listen and
hang out with us today. Thank you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do, I do, okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Before we wrap this episode, I want to
say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.
If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and
if you've seen something that no one can explain, or
if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's
been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot
who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if
you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence
and you've stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.
And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue
responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under
contract who has found evidence, you're not allowed to report.
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,
or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
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