Speaker 1: It's eight o seven. Now here's Nightside with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2: It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'm de Bezy Boston
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Speaker 1: Wait a second, Cherry, did I hear that score correctly? Hi? Sherry, welcome?
Speaker 1: Yeah and uh yeah. Now it's thirteen to one, bottom
Speaker 1: of the third in Florida.
Speaker 3: Not a great night for the Socks so far though,
Speaker 3: still goodness.
Speaker 1: Thirteen to one. I mean, you know when you said
Speaker 1: that their Dampa Bay's in the lead in the bottom
Speaker 1: of the third, I'm thinking one nothing, maybe two nothing,
Speaker 1: but thirteen to one. Whoa, yeah, we're in the dark.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the night shift here. Okay. I hope you
Speaker 1: got to hear your voice. Great to hear yours as well.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for keeping us posted throughout the night.
Speaker 1: You you do the live reports now at the top
Speaker 1: of the hour at eight nine and no, Dan, we'll
Speaker 1: be back. Well that's excellent. That way you're going to
Speaker 1: be keeping us up to date as to what's going
Speaker 1: on around. Thank you so much, Ry, appreciating all right,
Speaker 1: good evening, everybody. Welcome on in on. Dan rayam the
Speaker 1: host of Nightside Nightside with Dan Ray, the aptly named program.
Speaker 1: Rob Brooks, the producer of this program is back in
Speaker 1: the control room at Broadcast Central, and without any further ado,
Speaker 1: I want to get to my first guest tonight, who
Speaker 1: is an institution in Boston. That does not mean he's old,
Speaker 1: he's just very, very influential. He is. His name is
Speaker 1: John Spooner, but not only is he a financial advisor
Speaker 1: of great success, but he's also an author of thirteen books. So,
Speaker 1: John Spooner, my first question is where do you find
Speaker 1: the time to do it? Number one? I mean that
Speaker 1: seriously as someone who spends his entire day trying to
Speaker 1: figure out a little four hour radio show five nights
Speaker 1: a week. Where do you get the energy?
Speaker 3: Well, well, maybe it's running down a little bit. But
Speaker 3: originally I stout out English major in college, wanted to
Speaker 3: be a novelist, and I had family pressure to go
Speaker 3: into the investment business, knowing that sooner or later when
Speaker 3: my first book came out. Not if it was when
Speaker 3: my first book came out, I would be out of
Speaker 3: there and quit. But I was in the business for
Speaker 3: about three years before my first book was bought by
Speaker 3: Little Brown, which was a novel was basically a Catcher
Speaker 3: in the rye on Wall Street, that wasn't the title.
Speaker 3: But by the time that happened, I've made this great discovery.
Speaker 3: Because I was horrible in math. I was allowed to
Speaker 3: waive second year algebra in high school and probably flunked
Speaker 3: the SATs. But I realized after three years in abiz that,
Speaker 3: you know what I really believe. It's not about math.
Speaker 3: It's about human nature, fear and greed specifically, and every
Speaker 3: time things were bad there was a bear market or
Speaker 3: people were scared. You should have been a buyer, not
Speaker 3: a seller, and that fear and greed dictated, in my view,
Speaker 3: eighty percent of market movements is emotional and twenty percent reality.
Speaker 3: And I thought, you know, the only thing I know
Speaker 3: anything about is human nature, because I always thought it
Speaker 3: was just a novelist. And sure enough, it's now called
Speaker 3: behavioral economics, which is a fancy way of saying fear
Speaker 3: and greed. So and because I realized that show business,
Speaker 3: meaning of writing has huge movements, the way stock's going
Speaker 3: to have up and down, and if you choose the
Speaker 3: creative life, whether you act, sing, dance, write, paint, mostly
Speaker 3: you're doomed. In the creative life. It's so tough. So
Speaker 3: I thought, don't give up your day job, but I'll
Speaker 3: never stop writing.
Speaker 1: Good for you. Well, you haven't stopped. And this is
Speaker 1: the thirteenth book that we're talking about that been all novels.
Speaker 1: This one is called Wake Up. A Lifetime of Lessons
Speaker 1: from Smart Women. I must tell you in my business,
Speaker 1: I think the smartest women are the smartest people in
Speaker 1: my business happen to be women I've worked with and
Speaker 1: for a lot of smart women. How did this book
Speaker 1: come to be?
Speaker 3: Well, all books come from German of an idea. For instance,
Speaker 3: years ago I was at caddy at Brookline, Muni now
Speaker 3: called Putterham, and I loved the game of golf, and
Speaker 3: for years I would have dreams about four young men
Speaker 3: caddies or I don't know who they are walking down
Speaker 3: a first t carrying golf bags, and for years I said,
Speaker 3: who are they? And finally I wrote a novel called
Speaker 3: The Foursome that came out of the nineties. There was
Speaker 3: about four kids and they start caddy and then something
Speaker 3: bad happens when they're young, and they keep that secret
Speaker 3: and it becomes their story. So jerem of the idea.
Speaker 3: I wrote a book in nineteen eighty called Smart People,
Speaker 3: which was kind of cause to stir. It was very
Speaker 3: popular and still resonates today. I believe in about how
Speaker 3: do you brand yourself an increasingly anonymous world, and how
Speaker 3: do you get people to get on your team and
Speaker 3: take care of you? And little tricks to the trade,
Speaker 3: to how you become different than other people and kind
Speaker 3: of attract other people to you who actually want to
Speaker 3: help you in law, medicine, moneymap, money, money matters, and
Speaker 3: including plumbers, carpenters, etc. Cooks. And there was a chapter
Speaker 3: called My Smart Women in it then and for decades
Speaker 3: I've been thinking, why don't you do a book just
Speaker 3: about women? And boy, if there is ever a time,
Speaker 3: this is women's time. And more and more women are
Speaker 3: running things at every turn in society, and during the pandemic,
Speaker 3: for instance, Dan, what did women do during the pandemic? Everything?
Speaker 3: Women talk to their girlfriends every day. What are you reading?
Speaker 3: What are you watching? What are you rubbing on your arms?
Speaker 3: What about the kids? What are you cooking? Guys during
Speaker 3: that time looking at the window saying who am I?
Speaker 3: And what's it all about? And women and the girlfriends
Speaker 3: know what it's all about, because guys don't call guys
Speaker 3: who haven't earn touch with their networks every day virtually,
Speaker 3: and the guys don't call each other. So more and
Speaker 3: more I'm relying as you say, and women do answer
Speaker 3: all kinds of questions for me. And the book is
Speaker 3: forty two different women, forty two different occupations dan from
Speaker 3: law to medicine, to acting, to marketing, to cooking to
Speaker 3: you name it. And they're all women in my life
Speaker 3: from the time I was three years old. And the
Speaker 3: lessons that they gave me a not only prices, they
Speaker 3: are not lessons preaching on high they're practical, down and
Speaker 3: dirty streets by lessons that no guy could ever tell me.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a great that's that's a great encapsulation of
Speaker 1: what the what the book is all about. Again, it's
Speaker 1: not often I would characterize you truly as a renaissance
Speaker 1: man in the sense that not only have you written
Speaker 1: as much as you've written, and in order to write,
Speaker 1: you have to think, and also, obviously to be a
Speaker 1: successful financial advisor, people who know you speak very highly
Speaker 1: of your advice and your wisdom over the years, and
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have stayed in the business and been as
Speaker 1: successful as you have been as a financial advisor. So
Speaker 1: let me pick your brain for one second. Here, A
Speaker 1: lot of people have been panicking. I do not remember
Speaker 1: the market being as turbulent in recent memory. I know
Speaker 1: we've had bigger drops in nine to eleven. And I
Speaker 1: follow the market, not as closely as you, but pretty closely.
Speaker 1: I've never seen the market with such swings over a period. Now.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because the Dow is up in the forty
Speaker 1: thousand range and all of that, and Nasdaq is up
Speaker 1: around twenty and all, and the numbers are bigger. But
Speaker 1: it was amazing last week to see down one day,
Speaker 1: up the next down. Then you figure it's going up,
Speaker 1: but it goes down, then it goes up. And it
Speaker 1: was up a little bit today. Not a big move today.
Speaker 1: When do you think that this airplane ride is going
Speaker 1: to settle out? You got a sense.
Speaker 3: Well, basically, I can't say too much about this because
Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to talk finance, but I'll give you
Speaker 3: one quick impression. Again, it's some behavioral economics or fear
Speaker 3: and greed. When I came into this business, the Dow
Speaker 3: Jones average was five hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tod I remember those laws were.
Speaker 3: Forty thousand plus and how many bumps in the road
Speaker 3: and panics. I've worked through probably seven true panics, from
Speaker 3: the Kennedy assassination to the crash of eighty seven to
Speaker 3: the horrible decade of the seventies twenty percent interest and
Speaker 3: every single time there was a panic and panic selling
Speaker 3: from nine to eleven, to look back to Pearl Harbor,
Speaker 3: which I only remember vaguely, I was a little kid.
Speaker 3: And in every case one should have been a buyer,
Speaker 3: not a seller, if you take the long term view,
Speaker 3: and again behavioral economics says, when there's panic around us,
Speaker 3: that's when there's often opportunity and bargains appear, whether it's
Speaker 3: an art or real estate or stocks. And if you
Speaker 3: take most people, by the way Dan seem to look
Speaker 3: at last week and next week. I try and look
Speaker 3: over the chasm way out there, what's going to be
Speaker 3: going on three to five years from now? If I
Speaker 3: do X And in every single case where usually in
Speaker 3: normal markets things go sideways, there are a few groups
Speaker 3: that are strong and a few not so strong. But
Speaker 3: when you get a condition where everybody is taken out
Speaker 3: and shot, that's where bargains may appear. And if you
Speaker 3: take the long run and you buy quality, you're going
Speaker 3: to be a winner eventually. So that's my take on
Speaker 3: what's going on now.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you hear that take, because that is
Speaker 1: the take that I try to ascribe to folks as
Speaker 1: well and suggest to people friends of mine. It is
Speaker 1: I always joke. I'll say, when it's time to panic,
Speaker 1: I'll let you know, but it's not time to Jeordgepter,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. The book is Wake Up, a
Speaker 1: lifetime of lessons from smart women. I would hope that
Speaker 1: a lot of the readers would take and take some
Speaker 1: of your examples and apply them in their own life,
Speaker 1: because I think all of us, if we look back,
Speaker 1: there have been some smart women in our lives. And
Speaker 1: whenever I don't think as smart as they are, my
Speaker 1: wife and daughter reminds me how wrong I am. Generally
Speaker 1: they're right. Judge Boter, thank you so much for your
Speaker 1: time tonight. We will talk again, my friend.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you Dan so much. Bye bye.
Speaker 1: You're very welcome. All right, we get back when we
Speaker 1: talk about prepping up for the Boston Marathon, how runners
Speaker 1: get ready for the challenge of running twenty six point
Speaker 1: two miles, training, weather, injury, prevention, all that going to
Speaker 1: be talking with a sports medicine physician. We'll be back
Speaker 1: on Nightside. My name is Dan Ray. It's a Monday night.
Speaker 1: We're just starting twenty hours. This is the first hour
Speaker 1: of the week, so stay with us for twenty hours
Speaker 1: and you'll be a lot smarter and more entertained by
Speaker 1: week's end. Back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 2: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on ws Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: I'm delighted to be joined by doctor Adam ten Fordy.
Speaker 1: Doctor ten Fordy, welcome to Nightside. How are you, sir?
Speaker 4: I'm doing well. Thanks, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You're a sports medicine physician at the
Speaker 1: Spalding National Running Center, which is located right here in Boston.
Speaker 1: Are well, great Boston area? Correct? Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Our goal at the Spaulding National Running Center, which
Speaker 4: is part of Nation General Brigham Healthcare, is to provide
Speaker 4: a comprehensive approach to taking care of injured runners and
Speaker 4: related health concerns.
Speaker 1: So you don't have to be a marathon or to
Speaker 1: be injured in the marathon to take advantage of Spaulding
Speaker 1: National Running Center.
Speaker 4: I assume that's correct. A lot of times, folks will
Speaker 4: read a little bit about my background and they come
Speaker 4: in assuming that you have to be a serious, high
Speaker 4: performing athlete to require medical care. And my view is
Speaker 4: that the sport of running is available to everyone across
Speaker 4: ability levels and ages, and it's really just a fun
Speaker 4: sport we should all be able to enjoy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem that running can create for people, particularly
Speaker 1: when they get inspired by watching the marathon on Patriots
Speaker 1: Day here in Boston, is next week they're out running.
Speaker 1: They're trying to run five or ten miles, and they're
Speaker 1: trying to go from zero to sixty in about five seconds.
Speaker 1: And that's a problem. I'm assuming that a lot of
Speaker 1: people make that mistake. They watch the marathon on television
Speaker 1: and they say, I can't do that, but I can
Speaker 1: at least run five or ten miles. And the next
Speaker 1: morning they wake up and they realize that that was
Speaker 1: a huge mistake. What do you tell people who are
Speaker 1: going to start out after the marathon. They're going to
Speaker 1: get inspire, the weather's now, good spring is here, Other
Speaker 1: than take it easy, what do you tell them?
Speaker 4: Well, first off, I like to bust a couple of
Speaker 4: the myths that running is somehow harmful for your body
Speaker 4: or your joints, and I think you alluded to this earlier.
Speaker 4: An any new activity, just like going to a weight room.
Speaker 4: If you just start lifting heavy reps, you're likely to
Speaker 4: be sore afterwards, so start slow. Oftentimes there are programs
Speaker 4: that are available online which they refer to as a
Speaker 4: couch to five k program, and it's the idea that
Speaker 4: anyone should be able to start to advance into running.
Speaker 4: Of course, there can be health concerns, and so if
Speaker 4: someone is worried about having an underlying medical condition, again,
Speaker 4: myself or anyone at Maasternal Brigham would be happy to
Speaker 4: see those individuals where we have sports cardiology in a
Speaker 4: number of different ways to ensure that the body and
Speaker 4: the heart and other organs are healthy to enjoy the sport.
Speaker 4: But in most cases it is so is.
Speaker 1: It as simple? I mean the advice I would give someone,
Speaker 1: And I'm not a marathon but I used to run
Speaker 1: a lot of ten k's and to the point of
Speaker 1: my life where now my exercise is on an elliptical
Speaker 1: machine because I just that's for me is where I
Speaker 1: want to be. I tell people, when you're going to start,
Speaker 1: just start walking, you know, walk a few you know,
Speaker 1: a little distance, a little more distant than then some day,
Speaker 1: you know, could I trot around the reservoir one? So whatever,
Speaker 1: maybe next week twice. Gradually, I think is the key.
Speaker 1: I'm getting a sense that maybe I'm being too conservative
Speaker 1: with my advice.
Speaker 4: No, I actually think your advice is pretty consistent with
Speaker 4: what we would recommend, which is typically to do what
Speaker 4: we refer to as a walk round for And you know,
Speaker 4: there's there's so many advantages of getting out to run,
Speaker 4: the community of you know, having someone who becomes an
Speaker 4: exercise partner, or even if it's something you like to
Speaker 4: do just to clear your mind. And you know, there's
Speaker 4: there's a lot of benefits to just being outside and
Speaker 4: and just moving faster.
Speaker 1: And I started running somewhat seriously in my twenties. I
Speaker 1: had played sports in high school and college and then
Speaker 1: went to law school and didn't do too much running.
Speaker 1: But I took it easy, and I would go out
Speaker 1: do four miles a day, and I would click it
Speaker 1: off around the river, seven minute miles, and I knew
Speaker 1: twenty eight minutes I would be done, and I knew
Speaker 1: what exactly where where I would be. And I found
Speaker 1: it that kind of opened up the world to me,
Speaker 1: and I spent a good twenty years on the back roads,
Speaker 1: and on occasion had a chance to run with Bill
Speaker 1: Rogers because he and I lived in the same town.
Speaker 1: Not for long with Billy Rogers, but we know, run
Speaker 1: for a quarter of a mile, maybe on a good
Speaker 1: day half a mile, and then you know he threw
Speaker 1: it into third gear. What's the best advice you would
Speaker 1: give to someone who goes out, maybe overextends themselves, and
Speaker 1: wakes up the next morning and says, oh, I've never
Speaker 1: had that discomfort before my leg or my foot or
Speaker 1: my ankle. I think I know what you're going to say,
Speaker 1: but I want my audience to hear it from you,
Speaker 1: not from me.
Speaker 4: So first off, just just to respond to your experience
Speaker 4: with running. I think that's what's so beautiful about the
Speaker 4: sport is you can engage with so many wonderful people
Speaker 4: in the community, and in general, runners tend to be
Speaker 4: a really nice population to get to know and to
Speaker 4: run with. You know, from the standpoint though, of aches
Speaker 4: and pains, those are those are very common when when
Speaker 4: someone is either getting into running or any sport in general.
Speaker 4: We look at aches and pains that improve as you're active.
Speaker 4: So for example, if you go for a run and
Speaker 4: the next day you feel a little stiff and sore,
Speaker 4: but as you're moving throughout the day, it feels better
Speaker 4: and better. Those tend to be reassuring features. Or not
Speaker 4: having pain vocalized directly over a bone, or having pain
Speaker 4: in a joint where there's a lot of swelling. Those those,
Speaker 4: in general are things that I feel like it's reasonable
Speaker 4: to give your body a little bit of time to
Speaker 4: get used to the new activity. But if a pain persists,
Speaker 4: or it's getting worse or builds as you run, or
Speaker 4: you're having you know, swelling, or you feel like you're
Speaker 4: moving in a way in which something else is going
Speaker 4: to get hurt, those tend to be the more clear cuts.
Speaker 4: And said, seeing myself, seeing a provider National Brigham, just
Speaker 4: someone who understands the injured runner and also is not
Speaker 4: going to make you feel bad about getting back into
Speaker 4: that sport. That's one of the key, the key factors
Speaker 4: that I feel like we've we've got a much better
Speaker 4: handle on. And again, this is a sport that people
Speaker 4: should be able to enjoy. We don't tell someone who
Speaker 4: plays soccer or football and has an injury. You know,
Speaker 4: you shouldn't do that sport anymore because you might get injured.
Speaker 5: What we try to think about is why did you
Speaker 5: get that.
Speaker 4: Injury, and how do we treat it, and how do
Speaker 4: we prevent that from happening in the future.
Speaker 1: Now, the best website for folks who want to get
Speaker 1: more information, and I think we have hopefully certainly at
Speaker 1: least scraped the surface. It's spaldingrehab dot org. Is that
Speaker 1: the best way that folks can get to the website
Speaker 1: and get some information and maybe even get in contact
Speaker 1: with you directly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And you know, in general, you know the other
Speaker 4: homepage of mass General Brigham where you know if you
Speaker 4: are looking for a sports medicine provider, I'm listed among
Speaker 4: a number of colleagues that I really trust and feel
Speaker 4: do a do a great job and taking care of
Speaker 4: injured runners and others that are just trying to be
Speaker 4: more physically active.
Speaker 1: Sounds great, Doctor Adam ten forty spelled last name spelled
Speaker 1: t e n f o r d E t e
Speaker 1: n f o r d pronounced ten forty. Doctor ten forty,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, great to talk to you. You
Speaker 1: sound to me like a great doctor for people who
Speaker 1: are trying to get in shape or indeed stay in shape.
Speaker 1: And I really tell you, if I was runner, you'd
Speaker 1: be on speed dial for me. Man, you're a great,
Speaker 1: great guest. Thank you so much, Thanks.
Speaker 4: For having me and for the kind words.
Speaker 1: You're right back at you, right back at you. All Right,
Speaker 1: we get back on the other side of the news
Speaker 1: at the bottom and the air. We're going to talk
Speaker 1: about a group called Run for the Troops, but it's
Speaker 1: a little different. It's corn Hall for a Cause, an
Speaker 1: upcoming event on Sunday, June eighth. This is when everybody
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Speaker 1: It's fourteen to one in Tampa, fourteen to one, Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, Red Sox. I want to welcome back tonight
Speaker 1: Bill Pennington, founder of Run for the Troops. Bill Pennington,
Speaker 1: welcome back.
Speaker 5: How are you hey, Well, thank you so much for
Speaker 5: having us on again. I really appreciate the support.
Speaker 1: Thank you my pleasure. Give us a quick I know
Speaker 1: we're talking about Run for the Troops, We're not talking
Speaker 1: about a road race. Here, give us the quick synopsis
Speaker 1: of how Run for the Troops was founded, in what
Speaker 1: you have tried to accomplish with that, and then we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about your big event on Sunday, June eighth,
Speaker 1: corn Hole for a Cause. Tell us about the organization.
Speaker 5: First, well, it was my whole family served in the military.
Speaker 5: My mom served in the Marines, my father served in
Speaker 5: the Navy, and as I slowed down, I couldn't qualify
Speaker 5: for the Boston Marathon. So I put on a fundraiser
Speaker 5: to raise money for a charity BIB, and that's how
Speaker 5: it all started, and we did really well. And of
Speaker 5: course my daughter continued tradition by marrying a marine. So
Speaker 5: I'm though I never directly serve diet. I'm very much
Speaker 5: aware of the sacrifices are men and women.
Speaker 1: Have Run for the troops has been around. I know
Speaker 1: I've interviewed you for several years. How long has run
Speaker 1: for the Troops been around?
Speaker 5: Fifteen years?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, that makes sense to me. Okay, so let's
Speaker 1: talk about this event is a little different. I know
Speaker 1: what corn hole is. It's a fun it's a fun event.
Speaker 1: I'd like to call an athletic event, but it really
Speaker 1: doesn't involve a lot of athleticism. And it's something that
Speaker 1: can be played by people I think from five or
Speaker 1: six years old right up until ninety five or maybe
Speaker 1: one hundred and five and one hundred and six.
Speaker 5: Tell us about it, Well, it's a great opportunity. It
Speaker 5: serves two purposes. It helps us raise money to continue
Speaker 5: the programs, and plus it's believing or not life saving
Speaker 5: camaraderie opportunities for our veterans. Our veterans I've talked to
Speaker 5: them over the years. The one thing they value more
Speaker 5: than any thing else is the opportunity to socialize with
Speaker 5: fellow veterans. And this is just a great opportunity we'll
Speaker 5: have Navy teams against army teams, marines against you know
Speaker 5: Coast Guard, and then we have also civilians there. It's
Speaker 5: a great camaraderie event and it takes place at Ironstone
Speaker 5: Farm in Andover, so it's it's a great opportunity.
Speaker 1: So this is a day long event. It's on Sunday,
Speaker 1: June eighth, which I'm sure the weather will be a
Speaker 1: little better than it's been the last few weekends. How
Speaker 1: many folks do you think? How many people are going
Speaker 1: to participate.
Speaker 5: Well, we anticipate selling out. We only have fifty enough
Speaker 5: room for fifty teams. We actually have it inside a
Speaker 5: riding arena at Ironstone Farm, so the weather is not
Speaker 5: a factory.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's very unique. It's it's you know, dirt floor,
Speaker 5: it's you know, everyone's working together and to have a
Speaker 5: good time and support our veterans. We have auto pizza
Speaker 5: and all kinds of refreshment there and all the participants
Speaker 5: get extremely worthwhile medals from Ashworth Medals. And it's just
Speaker 5: a camaraderie event and also a fundraiser too.
Speaker 1: So if it's fifty teams, there's two two people to
Speaker 1: a team as I understand that. So you're talking about
Speaker 1: one hundred people, max, Okay, And what time on that
Speaker 1: Sunday the things get going o'clock or.
Speaker 5: Three o'clock, basically three to five. We suggest you get
Speaker 5: there early. You can practice, you know, enjoy some pizza
Speaker 5: and some refreshments, camaraderie, and you can pick up your
Speaker 5: medals which are great ahead of time. And it's just
Speaker 5: and the great thing about Ironstone Farms a lot of
Speaker 5: our therapy programs for our veterans take place there, so
Speaker 5: a lot of people have never been to Ironstone Farms
Speaker 5: can see the horses and learn a little bit more
Speaker 5: about Ironstone Farms and what they do for our veterans.
Speaker 1: So there's no it's not like based upon a women's division,
Speaker 1: men's division or you know, seniors or people under the
Speaker 1: age or whatever. A team can be made up of
Speaker 1: any two people as I understand it correct.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And the one of the teams that finished second
Speaker 5: last year, the team that finished second last year is
Speaker 5: led by my pastor, Pastor John Paul at Free Christian Church,
Speaker 5: and he practices all the time and he's very very
Speaker 5: good and his partners are marine. So yeah, so's it's
Speaker 5: all walks of life. You know, non athletes. You know,
Speaker 5: we're not going to have anybody from the you know,
Speaker 5: anyone can do it, you know, age five, the one
Speaker 5: hundred and five and deult as the bass of marathon.
Speaker 1: So if they're inclined to do this. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you said, everybody gets the metal.
Speaker 5: Matters, you know, that's the oh the team nowadays, you know,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, every kid.
Speaker 1: Get gets a trophy. I hear that. I hear that.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that some other time. But that's okay.
Speaker 1: So that's okay. It's it's for a cause. So what's
Speaker 1: the website? Obviously people want to get themselves at this
Speaker 1: only room for fifty teams, you know, fifty teams of
Speaker 1: two people, it's going to fill up pretty quickly.
Speaker 5: So yeah, we we have people registering now and they
Speaker 5: can do that front for the Troops m a dot
Speaker 5: org and just click on events and it's all on
Speaker 5: their registration. Like last year, first time event, we had
Speaker 5: forty seven teams and do the space of the writing arena.
Speaker 5: You know, we want to make sure it's a good time.
Speaker 5: So for fifty you know, fifty teams and one hundred
Speaker 5: spectators are welcome to cheer and support and enjoy some
Speaker 5: pizza and you know, refreshments also.
Speaker 1: So give me the website. Did you say Friends for
Speaker 1: the troops or run for the troops?
Speaker 5: Run for the troops M dot org?
Speaker 1: Perfect? Okay, Run for the troops all one word with
Speaker 1: an MA in there, dot org. Run for the troops ma,
Speaker 1: all one word dot org. And that gets you to
Speaker 1: the website I see right here, cornwall for a cause. Sunday, June,
Speaker 1: bags fly at three o'clock Ironstone Farm. Remind me what
Speaker 1: town is Ironstone Farming, because you know.
Speaker 5: It's andover Massachusetts. And you know it well because they're
Speaker 5: the connection with mass School of Law. Yes, and certainly
Speaker 5: we'll save a spot for you, but you have to
Speaker 5: register soon, Damp And that's well.
Speaker 1: Understand that.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I just never missed that I would discourage anybody because
Speaker 1: I'm so good at this. Holy kiddy. Hey, if I
Speaker 1: can make it, I will build Pennington Pass always. Thanks
Speaker 1: very much. Thanks for the work you do and for
Speaker 1: the causes that you support. Very important.
Speaker 5: Thanks support also.
Speaker 1: Anytime, anytime, Thanks so much. When we get back right
Speaker 1: after the break, we're going to talk about another day,
Speaker 1: which is April eighteenth, which will mark the two hundred
Speaker 1: and fiftieth anniversary of Paul Revere's famous two of by
Speaker 1: Sea lantern signal in Old North Church. That, of course
Speaker 1: was the ninth before the nineteenth. They have two events
Speaker 1: coming up, and we were back in in seventeen seventy five.
Speaker 1: I might add, we have two events we want to
Speaker 1: tell you. I'm going to talk about Nicki Stewart, the
Speaker 1: executive director of the Old North Illuminated, which operates Old
Speaker 1: North Church Historic Site. Back on night Side, We'll give
Speaker 1: you a couple of events in the next couple of
Speaker 1: days that you might want to participate in. One on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: one on Friday. Back on night Side.
Speaker 2: Right after this Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News.
Speaker 1: Radio, delighted to be joined by Nicki Stewart, the executive
Speaker 1: director of the Old North Illuminated, which operates Old North
Speaker 1: Church Historic Site. Nikki, I had never heard of Old
Speaker 1: North Illuminated. Now I know what organization runs Old North
Speaker 1: Church Historic Site. How are you?
Speaker 6: I am great, Thanks for having.
Speaker 1: Me, very welcome. Well, of course, we are coming hard
Speaker 1: upon the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of a lot
Speaker 1: of things, the Battle of Concord and Lexington, the two
Speaker 1: hundred and fiftieth anniversary of Paul Revere's famous to if
Speaker 1: I see lantern signal in Old North Church. Now, of
Speaker 1: course the Patriots Day has always been well until the
Speaker 1: changes the first Monday and all of that, but it's
Speaker 1: always been celebrated on the day of April nineteenth. But
Speaker 1: Paul Revere was working before April nineteenth. People have to
Speaker 1: remember Revere started his ride the night before.
Speaker 6: Yes, the night before.
Speaker 1: He was listening to Night's Side on his transits to radio.
Speaker 1: And that's how a holy kidding. What time did he
Speaker 1: start out trot it out? What about ten o'clock or earlier?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, pretty late at night. We know that it
Speaker 6: was dark and it was a full moon, and you know,
Speaker 6: a very dangerous mission.
Speaker 1: Yes it is. I'll tell you when it's a full moon,
Speaker 1: I have a dangerous miss mission because a full moon
Speaker 1: does affect my my callers sometimes. So number one, I
Speaker 1: know exactly what was going on. So okay, he heads
Speaker 1: off and he's warning everyone the British are coming. The
Speaker 1: British are coming. This is a dumb question. But but
Speaker 1: if anyone that should have the answer, it should be you.
Speaker 1: How many miles did he ride? That night. That's all about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's about fourteen miles. I like to tell Boston
Speaker 6: Marathon runners that they've gone a lot farger than Paul
Speaker 6: Revere's horse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's true. But fourteen miles on a horse
Speaker 1: at night, you know, it's it's it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a dangerous ride. Never mind the
Speaker 1: fact that British troops.
Speaker 6: Were absolutely, so absolutely and he's yeah.
Speaker 1: You have two events this week. You have a celebration
Speaker 1: breakfast marking Old North Church's famous lantern signal on the sixteenth,
Speaker 1: which is Wednesday. Is that Are the tickets available to
Speaker 1: that or is that by invitation only? Tell us about it.
Speaker 6: You know, this year we are honoring filmmaker Ken Burns
Speaker 6: with our third Lantern Award and we are sold out
Speaker 6: as you can imagine, but we are hoping everybody will
Speaker 6: come see us on Friday night throughout the North End
Speaker 6: in Charlestown for the Bride and the Row commemorations.
Speaker 1: So tell us about that, because that's on Friday night.
Speaker 1: It is free and open to the public. As great
Speaker 1: as the event is on Wednesday, tell us what's going
Speaker 1: to happen on Friday night and where should people go
Speaker 1: and what should do? They go to the Old North Church,
Speaker 1: whether they hang out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so Friday night, as we said, it's the Act
Speaker 6: two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, and so there will be
Speaker 6: events starting at five thirty throughout the North End and Charlestown.
Speaker 6: Folks can go to the Paul Revere House starting at
Speaker 6: five thirty. They'll see Paul and Rachel getting ready for
Speaker 6: the ride, and they'll be a focus on what that
Speaker 6: was like for his wife and the seven children that
Speaker 6: are in the house. That night, folks can go to
Speaker 6: the USS Constitution Museum if they're in Charlestown and get
Speaker 6: ready to see Revere row across the harbor. But what
Speaker 6: I'm excited about is that on the Paul Revere Mall,
Speaker 6: starting at six thirty, Old North Illuminated is doing an
Speaker 6: event with the City of Boston to kick off the
Speaker 6: Boston two fifty brand, and we'll have a table read
Speaker 6: of our hit play Revolution's Edge. And so that is
Speaker 6: totally free, open to the public, and the weather is
Speaker 6: looking good.
Speaker 1: What is a table read? I think I know what
Speaker 1: it is, but I'm sure you can explain it precisely
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So Revolution's Edge play that we produced for two
Speaker 6: summers in the church, so it's not coming back for
Speaker 6: a full production, but we will have costumed actors reading
Speaker 6: the script and there will be asl interpretation as well.
Speaker 1: And that's inside the Old Wild Church.
Speaker 6: That is outside on the Paul Revere mall right by
Speaker 6: the statue on Hanover Street.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's again. I just want to make sure
Speaker 1: we're getting people to the right place.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my time.
Speaker 1: Is there a website that has the program and the
Speaker 1: time of the activities. I'm sure you have a time
Speaker 1: schedule on this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So folks can go to Old North dot
Speaker 6: com and then there's a link right on the homepage
Speaker 6: to all of the festivities that night. And I will
Speaker 6: also give a plug. The City of Boston is doing
Speaker 6: a drone show over the harbor starting at eight thirty,
Speaker 6: so folks make their way to Langom Park or over
Speaker 6: to the shipyard. They can see the drone show and
Speaker 6: then watch as Revere rode across the water.
Speaker 1: So when you say rode across the water, that's that's
Speaker 1: why I'm a little concerned.
Speaker 6: There's no horse. There's no horse in the boat.
Speaker 1: So he rows across the water water. Is that what
Speaker 1: he actually did? And then he picks up a horse
Speaker 1: on the other side.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So one of my colleagues at the Revere House
Speaker 6: says that owning a horse in the city of Boston
Speaker 6: in seventeen seventy five was just as hard as owning
Speaker 6: a car is in the city of Boston today. So
Speaker 6: Revere will go to the water on foot.
Speaker 1: The problem is there was no place to park your horse.
Speaker 6: I mean it was this, there was no place to nope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So so he actually was there any sort of
Speaker 1: a bridge. You know, there is a bridge, you know,
Speaker 1: the Washington Street bridge that that connects the north end
Speaker 1: to Charlestown. Was there?
Speaker 6: There was not, There was not a Washington Street bridge
Speaker 6: at that time. No, So his best bet, and it's
Speaker 6: only about a five minute row, so it's quick. So
Speaker 6: he walks to the water on foot. He gets rowed across,
Speaker 6: and then he picks up a horse from Deacon Markan
Speaker 6: And that's what folks will get to see if they're
Speaker 6: in Charlestown on Friday night.
Speaker 1: Okay, And so in truth, he didn't row himself. There
Speaker 1: were people. There was someone there who.
Speaker 6: Two friends, Yeah, two friends who rode him across.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and this is so this is all going
Speaker 1: to be historically accurate, is what I'm what, I'm my senses.
Speaker 6: I'm getting it right now as close as we can get.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, So Channel four News didn't cover the event
Speaker 1: live back in the day.
Speaker 6: To the best of my knowledge, I might have been
Speaker 6: missed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, we've missed a few news stories over
Speaker 1: the years. Let's talk. Let's not rub that in Nicky
Speaker 1: too much. So we're going to.
Speaker 6: Get at this time, We're going to get.
Speaker 1: At that time, I'm sure. So you got to sort
Speaker 1: of plan for my listeners if you're going to do this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: gotta kind of go to the schedule and figure out
Speaker 1: because they're not going to let you in the boat
Speaker 1: with Revere. I guarantee you that. Okay. So you got
Speaker 1: to make sure that wherever you are, you want, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to see, you have to plan it in advance.
Speaker 1: It's as simple as that. So give us the website
Speaker 1: where people can go, which is most importantly to kind
Speaker 1: of do their homework and strategize. You know, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: where they're going to be. Go ahead, it's Old North Yep.
Speaker 6: Old North dot com.
Speaker 1: Yep, Old North dot com. Okay, that sounds great. Now
Speaker 1: has anything on this scale ever been attempted I'm wondering
Speaker 1: fifty years ago in nineteen seventy five. Was there a
Speaker 1: reenactment on this scale back then? Or this sounds to
Speaker 1: me pretty big? And if it happened in seventy five,
Speaker 1: I missed it, but I was missing a lot of
Speaker 1: things at seventy five. I was right out of law
Speaker 1: school at the time. Is this a little bit? Has
Speaker 1: this reenactment ever been done before this?
Speaker 6: This is this is a big production. So the last
Speaker 6: time there was a reenactment of the Row was twenty fourteen,
Speaker 6: so it's been over ten years now, and this will
Speaker 6: be a much bigger scale than what has been done
Speaker 6: in the past. Again, events on both sides of the
Speaker 6: Harbor Drone show, tavern nights in Charlestown. It's just going
Speaker 6: to be a really fun night, okay.
Speaker 1: And then the last thing, no ideas where you say
Speaker 1: that people park their horses or I mean their cars
Speaker 1: best if they took for the MVT.
Speaker 6: What you're going to do, Yeah, I would say a
Speaker 6: lot of bikes at bike.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of parking in the North End.
Speaker 6: That is correct.
Speaker 1: Great restaurants, great restaurants, but not a lot of parking. Nikki,
Speaker 1: you're a good sport. You've you've made it interesting. This
Speaker 1: that all goes on Friday night.
Speaker 3: Go to Old Night.
Speaker 1: Give us that one more time. You're the best website is.
Speaker 6: Old North old dot com Old just Old North.
Speaker 1: That's better. That's better. Okay, great, Nikki, thank you so much. Okay,
Speaker 1: you thanks very much. All Right, good night, all right,
Speaker 1: we're done for now and we are coming back right
Speaker 1: after the nine o'clock news. Spring sprang today. Spring sprung
Speaker 1: a little bit. But guess what else follows spring. It's
Speaker 1: just not mayflowers. Rats. Uh. Last year the city attempted
Speaker 1: to eliminate as many rats as possible. I don't think
Speaker 1: they succeeded. We'll talk about it on the other side
Speaker 1: of the nine o'clock news.