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Speaker 4: That was the minus nine and a half line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's twenty six nothing, so I think they might cover.
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Speaker 4: They got some pretty good holes over there, I say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got some fucking lordie good lord. Uh. There
Speaker 2: might be some distractions going on with the players, but
Speaker 2: we got those Miami Dolphins traveling over there. Hosting those
Speaker 2: Washington fucking dead Skins. This line Miami two and a
Speaker 2: half heavily juiced across the board. It is heading towards
Speaker 2: three longhorns. So what do you got on this one?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think if I mean, I'm gonna be on Miami,
Speaker 4: grab this before he gets the three. Like I said,
Speaker 4: I agree, I think it's going to three for sure.
Speaker 4: The handicap for me on this one is, well, first
Speaker 4: of all, you got some conflicting things. I'll start with that.
Speaker 4: You got two on the road, which is never where
Speaker 4: you want to be, but that gets thrown out for
Speaker 4: me and this one because they're both on the road.
Speaker 4: It's a neutral site, so it's a little bit too
Speaker 4: is a favorite, is what I meant to say if
Speaker 4: I didn't say that. So that's never where you want
Speaker 4: to be. But like I said, it's the neutral site.
Speaker 4: So it's kind of a real game for both of them.
Speaker 4: Not kind of it, it is, but this is all
Speaker 4: about them, and it's funny you call them. You're you're
Speaker 4: calling the dead Skins, which which that's not a new
Speaker 4: nick name. They've been dead Skins on and off for
Speaker 4: quite a long time. But but it's very afropole now
Speaker 4: because they are literally one of the most hurt teams
Speaker 4: in the NFL, along with one of their best defensive
Speaker 4: players being suspended for punching a guy in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: We've got we've got people just out here punching people
Speaker 4: in the NFL.
Speaker 2: It was a good punch, though, Oh.
Speaker 4: I mean the fact that heal, I mean, that's salt brother, Like,
Speaker 4: you could have got it. You could have gone to
Speaker 4: jail for that. If that was in the street. I'm
Speaker 4: not even kidding. If that was on like this, a
Speaker 4: random guy like that, you're going to jail. Yeah, So like,
Speaker 4: uh he got a game, Uh fine, whatever. But Trey
Speaker 4: Amos there, their cornerback, I think second round maybe that
Speaker 4: maybe even the first round cornerback they drafted an ole miss.
Speaker 4: He's hurt. He was giving them something. I mean, this
Speaker 4: is a dead defense. But at least at least you're
Speaker 4: getting something out of out of a good young player.
Speaker 4: Of course, McLaurin and you know, go down the list
Speaker 4: of Armstrong, the defensive end they got from the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: These are not great players, mcloran is. But but these
Speaker 4: other players are not great players. But when you're already
Speaker 4: a bad team and you're and you're this hurt and
Speaker 4: you're going to literally I know, I know well Daniels
Speaker 4: when he's helping us, so yeah, yeah. So when I
Speaker 4: look at this game, I literally like it's wording me
Speaker 4: that the line stayed at two and a half and
Speaker 4: it hasn't ticked a three yet, because to me, this
Speaker 4: should be and it's gotta be just because the Dolphins
Speaker 4: are so bad and the narrative on them is so bad,
Speaker 4: which we've capitalized on this season because they're a bad team.
Speaker 4: But you got to pick your spots with them. And
Speaker 4: of course last week I had the the infamous call
Speaker 4: against the Buffalo Bills, and that's.
Speaker 2: I think that's the thing, is like them winning that
Speaker 2: game to worry because you know it's all sharp when
Speaker 2: he comes in early and anyone stars, like we know
Speaker 2: better than the better on a shitty team coming off
Speaker 2: a big.
Speaker 4: Win like that, Like that's right, right, And I think
Speaker 4: the market is saying that, and it's what that's why
Speaker 4: it's holding. But if it goes to three and even
Speaker 4: comes off of three on the other side, that's about
Speaker 4: as big as a movement at the market's going to signify.
Speaker 4: Going through the key number of three. We'll see if
Speaker 4: it actually does that. But the fact that we all
Speaker 4: know that the Dolphins are going nowhere this year, but
Speaker 4: the fact that they that they told the coach you're
Speaker 4: not you're not fired. So that's a little bit for
Speaker 4: for a team that's not going where it has nothing
Speaker 4: to lose, and your offensive minded coach, you've got a
Speaker 4: little bit of freedom there, just kind of like fuck it,
Speaker 4: let's just let's just go out, go down swinging to us.
Speaker 4: Got to know that he has a chance to This
Speaker 4: might be his last time starting in Miami. Maybe not.
Speaker 4: Maybe he'll be back next year. Maybe the contract is
Speaker 4: too good, definitely is a long time. Well, we'll see,
Speaker 4: but they maybe they'll play there again next year. But
Speaker 4: point being, they've got nothing to lose. They're playing a
Speaker 4: team that's dead and hurt and going the wrong way fast.
Speaker 4: The coach Dan Quinn is taking over defensive play calling duties.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't think it is, but that that
Speaker 4: one thing does worry me because sometimes you can get
Speaker 4: that one game bump of a like let me let
Speaker 4: me just ride the troops and fire it up. But
Speaker 4: but I just don't think I don't see. I don't
Speaker 4: see the players to match up with the speed and
Speaker 4: the scheme that's gonna come at them this week. And
Speaker 4: what's the drive to try hard? I don't know. I
Speaker 4: don't see the drive to try hard. So I love
Speaker 4: Miami at the two and a half. Get them before
Speaker 4: it goes to three. If you like him, if you
Speaker 4: disagree completely, first of all, you can comment on the
Speaker 4: comments section tell me I'm an idiot, But then just
Speaker 4: wait because it's going to three. So if he disagreed,
Speaker 4: there's literally no reason to grab the two and a half.
Speaker 4: Now just wait till it takes a three. Grab the reskin.
Speaker 4: Most evens will call you an idiot, and then he'll
Speaker 4: drop it. He'll put a drop on you, and then
Speaker 4: that's what we'll be at, because I'll be on Miami,
Speaker 4: all right.
Speaker 2: Uh No, So I was literally was about to put
Speaker 2: this out at Patreon, and I don't know why I haven't.
Speaker 4: I can't explain it because of this sour taste of
Speaker 4: my It's it's who wants to bet this bat of
Speaker 4: a team as a favorite?
Speaker 2: It smells like something smells rotten. It smells like too
Speaker 2: much of a gift. Two and a half a bad team, yes,
Speaker 2: but versus a team that's even worse and not quitting
Speaker 2: because the Restlings haven't quit. They're just that bad. The
Speaker 2: they are just that bad. I mean they teams that
Speaker 2: quit don't punch people, right, You don't get suspended for
Speaker 2: punching somebody. And he wasn't the only punched of his throne,
Speaker 2: by the way, there were There could have been several
Speaker 2: Reskins suspended last week. There was a bunch of like
Speaker 2: feisty shit in that game, even though.
Speaker 4: They get in their ass with I wasn't aware that
Speaker 4: the Redskins were a bunch of punchers.
Speaker 2: I did not know that there are punchers. Now. The
Speaker 2: other thing that I went ahead and graded this game
Speaker 2: against my better judgment, but I did. If I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have graded, I would already bet Miami. But I did. Look,
Speaker 2: two is gonna have a good game, and but they're
Speaker 2: running game. Believe it or not, it doesn't grade out
Speaker 2: that well. Mariota grades out, he gains a point, and
Speaker 2: the Reskins running game grades a point against this Miami defense. However,
Speaker 2: here's the biggest thing to support your play, and I
Speaker 2: have still might end up in Miami, even though it
Speaker 2: stinks to high heaven. But I did pull this trends.
Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty one going into the by which both
Speaker 2: these things are going to the buy. By the way,
Speaker 2: but if you're on a neutral site, which we've had
Speaker 2: eight games now since we've had these new we've had
Speaker 2: these neutral sites, and generally Yard going to the buy
Speaker 2: off these they're the favorite seven to one, straight up
Speaker 2: seven and one ATS. So if you're going to the
Speaker 2: buy and you're the favorite eight seven point five and
Speaker 2: not only seven to one ATS long Horner average line
Speaker 2: of three point two, which right where we think this
Speaker 2: is gonna settle between three and three and a half,
Speaker 2: covering by three point eight points per game, you're winning
Speaker 2: this game by touchdown on average.
Speaker 4: That's gotta be a just that I mean, that has
Speaker 4: to be a deciding factor. That's gotta be the thing
Speaker 4: that pushes you. Like we all we all love trends,
Speaker 4: but for me, trends are like a final decider, like it.
Speaker 2: Has to make sense, it has to make sense, it
Speaker 2: has to be situational. Other side of that, if you're
Speaker 2: going into the buy, which the Redskins are on a
Speaker 2: neutral site, and you're the dog four and five ATS
Speaker 2: forty four point four percent. It's not dead on Amazon
Speaker 2: two point eight good, yes, currently right now losing the
Speaker 2: game by two point six points. So, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: that's it's a little bit of kind of.
Speaker 4: A glad to hear you agree with me on the
Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins. So it's quit being a pussy and just
Speaker 4: put them in your fucking premium picks.
Speaker 2: I can definitely not bet the Redskins zero zero zero
Speaker 2: zero zero upon zero chance that I could bet three,
Speaker 2: so I will not.
Speaker 4: Who calls it there? He can't call them the Redskins.
Speaker 4: It's it's the government's back open. You can't do that.
Speaker 2: Was the Redskins. If you don't call them the Redskins,
Speaker 2: I'm taking the team away. I'm taking it away.
Speaker 4: Trump Stadium, it's coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants it. He wants it bad. All right,
Speaker 2: Let's move on to those hot Atlanta Falcons. They're hosting
Speaker 2: those Coralina Panthers. Woo woof. Coming off that loss, you
Speaker 2: talk about the spot that you generally do want to
Speaker 2: back a team. If you're ever going to back a team,
Speaker 2: it's gotta be the Panthers. In this one, I think
Speaker 2: we're sitting at three and a half currently yep. So
Speaker 2: it's been three a open, three and a half. It's
Speaker 2: been three and a half. Now money coming in on Carolina.
Speaker 2: I'm expecting this line to get probably down to three
Speaker 2: closet of the game day long horn on this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I totally forgot to write down all of
Speaker 4: my danger zones and and all that stuff. But this
Speaker 4: is get get the stimes right because this is the
Speaker 4: big day. Because it's three and a half. That counts
Speaker 4: with the big day, So this is the big day.
Speaker 4: I'll slow down. This is the moby Dick, big dick,
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Speaker 2: Oh we have my deal.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put my dick in. I feel that as
Speaker 4: much as I could. That's what he said. So listen
Speaker 4: the last time, the last time, he's like, I love
Speaker 4: Carolina so much in this and and and and by
Speaker 4: the way, give me two units on the three and
Speaker 4: a half and at one unit on the money line
Speaker 4: on this one. Oh god, we don't even start how
Speaker 4: much I like this game. I mean, first of all,
Speaker 4: there might be just a pure matchup issue here because
Speaker 4: the last time he's too taught.
Speaker 2: You're saying, where, don't even start how much I know
Speaker 2: that marink up a little bit.
Speaker 4: Listen, we've been doing this a long time. We've been
Speaker 4: doing this a long time. The hardest, ugliest ones are
Speaker 4: the ones that's where you gotta go hard. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: know it's gonna I can tell what kind of podcast
Speaker 4: is gonna be already from Trump thrum jump blowout. Last
Speaker 4: time these two teams played, Carolina went or Atlanta went
Speaker 4: to Carolina and just got fucking shit stomped.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a thirty or nothing. I think so it
Speaker 4: ulous now that that happens in the NFL, and that
Speaker 4: might not signify anything at all. It's a one game sample,
Speaker 4: or it could signify one of these weird, just quirky
Speaker 4: matchup things where you just don't match up well with
Speaker 4: this team at all. And by the way, uh, Carolina
Speaker 4: is the better team. They're five and five overall, Atlanta's
Speaker 4: three and six. So it's not like, well, you know
Speaker 4: it's there, you know they're the better team and they
Speaker 4: has had a bad game in in that situation. No,
Speaker 4: they're not the better team. They're three and six and
Speaker 4: they're not a good team. So there's that situation. The
Speaker 4: running game sports, the running game should absolutely chew up
Speaker 4: this Atlanta defense. So oh here and here's and here's
Speaker 4: another thing, and I'll throw it to you because I've
Speaker 4: got some more stuff, but I don't want to don
Speaker 4: a hog good time. Atlanta's coming off an overtime overseas game.
Speaker 4: Most obviously, you know how many times that's happened in
Speaker 4: the NFL. Zero zero times have we had a team
Speaker 4: coming off of an overtime overseas game. So they're gonna
Speaker 4: be tired that they're coming right back and playing a
Speaker 4: team that that is gonna be physical and run. And
Speaker 4: the last thing, Caroline's defense has been good all year long.
Speaker 4: They had a hiccup last week. I'm talking that. I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna talk up to a hiccup against against a
Speaker 4: team they overlook in New Orleans. They should dominate the Ruins.
Speaker 4: They had a bad game. This is a bounce back
Speaker 4: spot for that Carolina defense which has been good all year.
Speaker 4: So everything points to link to Carolina for me, and
Speaker 4: I love getting three and a half. And I'll sprinkle somewhat,
Speaker 4: sprinkle on the money on sprinkle, all.
Speaker 2: Right, So I do have some stuff on this one.
Speaker 2: I want to pull this first though. Well, week going eleven. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll pull up from week seven, so let's talk about
Speaker 2: the last both just because I started digging in so
Speaker 2: since the BPG par Longhorn suggestion last year, which was
Speaker 2: a brilliant one, I started grading things on the sliding scale,
Speaker 2: adjusting the algorithm algorithms a bit. You know, we talked
Speaker 2: about Carolina being awesome on defense success, right or whatever.
Speaker 2: The last four games are down to twelve. So this,
Speaker 2: this and another defense i'll talk about a little bit later,
Speaker 2: has been on the slide. So I'll start off with
Speaker 2: saying that as far as the better team dB A
Speaker 2: disagrees with you, Atlanta's eighteenth Carolina.
Speaker 4: Is where are they at?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, twenty seventh? They stink.
Speaker 4: That's a big that's a big difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's all offensively driven though, and that's why I
Speaker 2: can't get down with I mean the spot you're right,
Speaker 2: and if you look through the grades the matchup. If
Speaker 2: Penix loses a half a point, not good. Their running
Speaker 2: game flat, which is how Carolina be in the first place.
Speaker 2: They held Bejon to basically nothing. But if you look
Speaker 2: at Carolina, you know, I think I don't remember what
Speaker 2: penis imploded in that game, but Bridstoung loses a point
Speaker 2: through the BBG. They have a flat grade through their
Speaker 2: running game as well. It grades out twenty four to
Speaker 2: seventeen Atlanta when about a touchdowns slightly in the under
Speaker 2: the forty two and a half power rank to say
Speaker 2: Atlanta the v twos on Carolina and the money though
Speaker 2: coming in on Carolina, that's gonna be Look, I'm wanting
Speaker 2: this game. I might go against you on this one.
Speaker 2: I'm not laying three and a half. This game has
Speaker 2: got to get to three to even me even think
Speaker 2: about it. It's probably not gonna be a play for
Speaker 2: me either way, but it's got to get to three
Speaker 2: for medium chance. But just looking at how these two
Speaker 2: teams are going lately, you know, yes, Carolina's defense has
Speaker 2: been great all season beginning last month not as good.
Speaker 2: And Atlanta, you know, there's such I don't know what
Speaker 2: to do with Atlanta at this point. They're so Jacklin
Speaker 2: high and if they can run the ball well, which
Speaker 2: they're projected to run what they do, I should So
Speaker 2: I got a question on that. So I should clarify
Speaker 2: when I say flat because some people say, well you
Speaker 2: said flat and they had you know, the same game
Speaker 2: or you know, a decent running game. When I say flat,
Speaker 2: it means they're grading out to how they run. So
Speaker 2: if you're a great running team, it means you're gonna
Speaker 2: have your normal game. If I say your plus points
Speaker 2: and your great run team, you have even better game.
Speaker 2: If I say minus should less than your average, that's
Speaker 2: all team specific. So I guess I should have been
Speaker 2: more clear with that. Does go through explain it? But again,
Speaker 2: I don't expect either one of these quarterbacks to have
Speaker 2: a good game. I don't expect this game to be
Speaker 2: high scoring. The problem with me with Carolina at this
Speaker 2: point is we've seen the games that they win outside
Speaker 2: a few outliers that they've had some defensive touchdowns and
Speaker 2: things like that. I mean, if you can score twenty points,
Speaker 2: you're gonna beat this team pretty much every fucking Sunday.
Speaker 2: So I think it does score twenty. I think Carolina
Speaker 2: has a hard time. It's boring twenty, but who knows.
Speaker 2: I'm probably probably staying away from here, but definitely, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, look, it's it's Bryce Young. Is the way that
Speaker 4: Atlanta wins his game? If it's Bryce Young, where he's
Speaker 4: got his head stuck up his ass, and I always
Speaker 4: wonder with one of them when I'm watching Bryce young
Speaker 4: because you talk about jacquelin Hyde, he is the jaquelin Hyde.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 4: Sometimes he comes out there and I think it's almost
Speaker 4: like are you on drugs or like are you medicated?
Speaker 4: Like what is wrong with you? You're like a walking
Speaker 4: zombie and I don't I don't understand it. And then
Speaker 4: the next game you'll just see him with the same
Speaker 4: players like there were there was nobody missing last week,
Speaker 4: the same players that they had. It's like there's nothing there.
Speaker 4: There's no emotion, there's no there's there's just.
Speaker 2: That vaunted New Orleans. Don't forget that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean yeah, there was no reason for
Speaker 4: that to happen. And it's almost like he got he
Speaker 4: got it sapped by the like the one floor with
Speaker 4: the cuckoo's nestling you got, you got your your brain's
Speaker 4: acted like are you even here right now? Wake the
Speaker 4: fuck up? Bryce Younger in an NFL game, So if
Speaker 4: they lose, if I'm wrong, it will definitely be one
Speaker 4: of those Bryce young what the fuck games like, which
Speaker 4: can definitely happen, but just everything else.
Speaker 2: What's wild to me about the brush Young thing is
Speaker 2: and I heard this on a podcast this week, like
Speaker 2: the players like love this dude, and you just talked
Speaker 2: about it on a Monday, like he has the worst
Speaker 2: body language, yeah, which is undeniable. It's if you what
Speaker 2: he has the worst body Like how.
Speaker 4: Could you love this du Listen? We're coming We're we
Speaker 4: are coming out of the era of the small quarterback,
Speaker 4: thank God, Like like if the Bryce Young thing that
Speaker 4: it'll last for for a little while and they're having
Speaker 4: a decent season five to five, but the midget quarterback
Speaker 4: in Arizona, the all all these quarterbacks that are small,
Speaker 4: they're finally starting that that phase is starting to go.
Speaker 4: With Russell Wilson with the collapse of his career, that's
Speaker 4: that's more to age than anything else, because he defied
Speaker 4: those odds for a long time. But we're coming out
Speaker 4: of it because at least at least some banker is
Speaker 4: you know, six one, like like he's not like a
Speaker 4: you know, tiny guy like Bryce Young is five ten,
Speaker 4: five eleven and like one hundred and ninety pounds, like
Speaker 4: he's just these quarterbacks are too small to plainfl and think, God,
Speaker 4: we're finally coming out of that era. But I hope
Speaker 4: it doesn't start this week, because I mean, good Bryce
Speaker 4: Young this.
Speaker 2: Week God's feed sir. All right, let's move on to
Speaker 2: those men of hold on By Kings hosting those Chicago
Speaker 2: Bens now pre seasonOn on this was Minnesota manas two
Speaker 2: and a half. We're currently sitting at Minnesota minus two
Speaker 2: and a half. Let's see if there's been any movement. Nope, sorry,
Speaker 2: two and a half juiced. We've got some threes heavily,
Speaker 2: heavily juice of threes across the board, threes on the
Speaker 2: even side. So this three that it was what it
Speaker 2: opened is moving to two and a half pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: So I and obviously think this is gonna finish at
Speaker 2: two and a half, if not less.
Speaker 4: What's the official number now still three.
Speaker 2: And it's like two point seven five. I mean it's
Speaker 2: you get three at Westgate, you get three at DraftKings,
Speaker 2: you get three at bet online. Circa just moved to
Speaker 2: two and a half minus one fifteen. That's in the
Speaker 2: last hour because they were three earlier. Get three on
Speaker 2: South Point, get three at win, get three at bet us.
Speaker 2: There's threes everywhere, but all the jews is coming on
Speaker 2: the threes on the other side of the plus three
Speaker 2: and where it is two and a half. Now circle
Speaker 2: moved to two and a half minus one fifteen, so
Speaker 2: you know, two point seven five. If you're one of
Speaker 2: great over the bet, you can definitely get the three.
Speaker 2: You can definitely get the two and a half the
Speaker 2: which side you like here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the last time these two teams played was
Speaker 4: obviously that was the week one which JJ McCarthy played
Speaker 4: that game, and Chicago kind of dominated most of that game.
Speaker 2: And it was like a all except the last eight minutes.
Speaker 4: Yes, except for the last eight minutes, so that this
Speaker 4: just feels like a Chicago spot to me. I want
Speaker 4: to be in Chicago. I want the plus three. If
Speaker 4: it's down to two and a half, it'll definitely be
Speaker 4: a tease up situation for me because because I think
Speaker 4: I think, even, yeah, that's good. I'm not making any
Speaker 4: kind of like sound or anything like that, although I
Speaker 4: do think Chicago is gonna win his game. But this
Speaker 4: is just a fascinating I'm fascinated with this quarterback situation
Speaker 4: game in this situation because Taylo seems to at least lately,
Speaker 4: do really well at end of games when he's off
Speaker 4: script and and JJ seems to only do well when
Speaker 4: he's on script, and so really, I don't I want
Speaker 4: to be in Chicago, but I don't really have a
Speaker 4: great feel in this one. And I didn't find anything
Speaker 4: that like blew me away on the matchups or that,
Speaker 4: you know, digging deep into the trends and things. So
Speaker 4: I hope you've got something something better to give me
Speaker 4: at least at least a good feeling about being on Chicago,
Speaker 4: because I'm definitely gonna be on Chicago, but I need
Speaker 4: more reasons to do it other than what I could
Speaker 4: find on my side. So what do you got over there?
Speaker 2: Oh, I got the power range grade down in Chicago.
Speaker 2: VT's on Chicago. I've got Chicago winning this game of
Speaker 2: twenty two to nineteen. That's to the NDA that kid
Speaker 2: at forty eight and a half. Now J. J. McCarthy
Speaker 2: does grade out plus point and a half versus defense,
Speaker 2: but Sugar bridges gains of point two and both running
Speaker 2: games should be around their normal success rate. However, as
Speaker 2: I dug more into this game, what I did find
Speaker 2: is and this is one of the defense I was
Speaker 2: talking about earlier, not the one, but one of them.
Speaker 2: If you look since week seven on. We always think
Speaker 2: about Minnesota, great defense, great defensive coach, blah blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. However, if you look since week seven ons
Speaker 2: last month, they're number seventeenth in success rate. Chicago's defense
Speaker 2: has been shit all year. Guess who's number eighteenth of
Speaker 2: success rate in the last four weeks. That would be Chicago.
Speaker 2: Their defense is getting better, Minnesota's getting worse. Chicago's offense
Speaker 2: is trending up. Minnesot's offense obviously isn't trending anywhere. So
Speaker 2: if you look overall, man, I think we're just I
Speaker 2: think we've got one team that's let's look at the
Speaker 2: d w o A ratings and this is all season long,
Speaker 2: so and I'm looking them up live, so I'd have
Speaker 2: no idea Minnesota sitting at twenty two. Chicago they can't
Speaker 2: be much. Yeah, twenty fifth, so it's eleven minus eleven
Speaker 2: point eight, thirteen point eight. So maybe it's a fair
Speaker 2: line at two and a half. But I think that
Speaker 2: Chicago's just a team on the trend that's going up,
Speaker 2: and so it's a team trend going down. I think
Speaker 2: the Bears are going to win this game. And last
Speaker 2: reason why I like the Bears. I'm gonna be in
Speaker 2: fucking Chicago. Of course the Bears are gonna cover for
Speaker 2: me while I'm in Chicago, do you?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, go Bears. That sounds like the curse of
Speaker 4: both Davis to me. I don't know, that's that's what
Speaker 4: that sounds like.
Speaker 2: I'm a scene baby when I show up. It's fucking
Speaker 2: just good things happen. Let's go all right, let's move
Speaker 2: on to those perks Steelers there, they're uh somehow still
Speaker 2: five and a half point favorites. Long hoar, you have
Speaker 2: to make sense of this before me five and a
Speaker 2: half point favorites over the Cincinnati Bengals. So, I mean, flight,
Speaker 2: I was not dead, right, I know, I was not playing.
Speaker 2: But the money's coming in on Pittsburgh like it's five
Speaker 2: and a half. A little bit juice, it's six of Heritage,
Speaker 2: six of Bovada. I mean, if this keeps climbing, if
Speaker 2: this keeps climbing, I don't know. I don't know how
Speaker 2: you don't. It opened at six and a half, down
Speaker 2: to five and a half, obviously, that's kind of where
Speaker 2: the market landed at the Steelers at five and a half,
Speaker 2: which again confuses me, I don't know, what do you got.
Speaker 4: I know, I'm just kind of because I didn't do
Speaker 4: any of my danger zones or soundars. I'm kind of debating.
Speaker 4: I'm scrolling through my list of picks. I think I'm
Speaker 4: gonna save the danger zone. Could not do it here,
Speaker 4: although this is this was they This was definitely impossible
Speaker 4: danger zone spot.
Speaker 2: And this total forty nine and a half. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know Loan's defensive state, but fifty points, Well.
Speaker 4: They both suck. Yeah, they both sucked. So I mean, like,
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna be yeah, and I'm gonna be on Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: And this is this actually is a very similar handicap
Speaker 4: to the to the Carolina Atlanta ones, Like why would
Speaker 4: I not take the team that already beat them with
Speaker 4: this quarterback that owns this this particular Pittsburgh Steelers team,
Speaker 4: Flacco's nine to four at s against Pittsburgh as a dog.
Speaker 4: This is just his sweet spine. And I think we
Speaker 4: mentioned this this this trend or I mentioned this trend
Speaker 4: last time that the last time they played, when he
Speaker 4: beat Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: So I've got no reason was it that when heland.
Speaker 4: Right, mate? No? I think because you know it was
Speaker 4: his first game in Cinci. Remember is that because Toman
Speaker 4: was pissed off that that that they Cleveland trade him
Speaker 4: to Sincy, Like I can't believe. And everybody's like, why
Speaker 4: is he saying that? That sounds a little thought, But
Speaker 4: then he's not a dummy. He knew that Flacco is
Speaker 4: a baller. And they've got Jamar Chase and and t
Speaker 4: Higgins out there, and what's changed, What is changed to
Speaker 4: make this going in any other direction? And on top
Speaker 4: of the fact Pittsfurdh sucks as big favorites, this is
Speaker 4: not their spot at all. You don't ever want have
Speaker 4: been on Pittsburgh when they're big favorites. So I have
Speaker 4: no reason as I'm scanning my notes to to not
Speaker 4: take the free points here. And like I said I would,
Speaker 4: there's there's one thing, there's one thing that that's gonna
Speaker 4: kind of keep me off of a danger zone or
Speaker 4: big day pick or sound or anything like that. Sincy.
Speaker 4: And this is all about the coach who I hate
Speaker 4: for Cincy. I think I think he's a terrible coach
Speaker 4: and I can't wait till they fire him. Actually I
Speaker 4: don't want to.
Speaker 2: We've soured on it, like at first we thought.
Speaker 4: He's my day ball. He's my dayball to you like
Speaker 4: like you like you slowly came around to my I
Speaker 4: hate Zach Taylor, fade him for a long time. And
Speaker 4: I think I'm finally winning over on that, just like
Speaker 4: you want me over in the day ball thing. Uh
Speaker 4: sincy one and four ats coming off of a buy
Speaker 4: and playing a division opponent, like good coaches coming home buys,
Speaker 4: that's their sweet spot, like and he's just not good.
Speaker 4: So especially in division when you should know your opponent
Speaker 4: like like this is. These are opponents you played twice
Speaker 4: a year at least. So that's the only thing came
Speaker 4: me off of something like that. But yeah, I've got
Speaker 4: no reason to not take the points. And I hope
Speaker 4: it gets to six. I hope it goes Everybody keep
Speaker 4: betting Pittsburgh. I just just load up on Pittsburgh because
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take all that other side and eat it up.
Speaker 4: Yom Yom young.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Vicky Islama that I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: go since the so power ring's got great since he
Speaker 2: at five and a half, me twos on the Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: for and a half. Look, both offenses, both quarterbacks gain
Speaker 2: a point, both running back, both runn games game of
Speaker 2: point and I'm still at forty eight points. It's twenty
Speaker 2: five to twenty three since he went in this game
Speaker 2: where graded, I don't know how we get the forty
Speaker 2: nine and a half. It's gonna have to be strip
Speaker 2: sack fumble, I mean, which is really I think the
Speaker 2: only way Pittsburgh covered. So if it goes over, we're
Speaker 2: probably cooked on the sun.
Speaker 4: Well think it does when it's when it's fourteen to
Speaker 4: seven in the first quarter, I don't think you're gonna
Speaker 4: be saying that like that, Like what was the last.
Speaker 2: One on the one?
Speaker 4: Was the last score of this one?
Speaker 2: Why you look that up? I will talk about a
Speaker 2: couple of trends here, go ahead. Well, it's stopping from
Speaker 2: slamming since he you just mentioned it off the by
Speaker 2: now this isn't since the specific this is any team
Speaker 2: since twenty twenty one. Off the buy and you're away
Speaker 2: Dogs eighteen to nineteen, ATS, ATS margins negative zero point three.
Speaker 2: That's an on line of four point six though, so
Speaker 2: basically losing by five points a game fifteen to twenty
Speaker 2: one straight up. Uh, but that's a really good percentage
Speaker 2: though for Dogs covering forty or dogs winning forty one percent.
Speaker 2: That's not bad. It's I mean, it's not above.
Speaker 4: Winning out right, winning out right. Oh okay, yeah, that's
Speaker 4: pretty that.
Speaker 2: It's not above average, but you know it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: But if you're the way dog, and it is in
Speaker 2: Divisions twenty twenty one, four and two ats by point
Speaker 2: or zero point two, so barely covering the margin. But
Speaker 2: that's in a line of five point eight, which is
Speaker 2: exactly where we're sitting. So you're losing yours three and
Speaker 2: three straight up, losing by five point seven points per game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that. But here here's the other thing. When
Speaker 2: I said it was gonna go under, and this again,
Speaker 2: this is just trends, and take it for what it's worth.
Speaker 2: On the big trend twelve twenty four and one to
Speaker 2: the under thirty three percent of sixty six point seven
Speaker 2: percent of the time it goes under. On the division
Speaker 2: thing one five to them by seven and a half points,
Speaker 2: an average shoulder of forty four point two, we're sitting
Speaker 2: at forty nine and a half. I mean, there's just
Speaker 2: no way. I mean, the under is probably where I'm
Speaker 2: looking at this one again, if the other hits. I
Speaker 2: don't see any way, since he doesn't cover if it
Speaker 2: goes over. That's because JJ Watt had forty five fucking
Speaker 2: strip sacks and Joe Fando died of fucking gone rheoil.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's interesting because I would look kinda
Speaker 4: kind of the other way, like like since he can
Speaker 4: only win if they outscore Pittsburgh, and that's exactly what
Speaker 4: they did last time when it was thirty three to
Speaker 4: thirty one.
Speaker 2: Like I don't, I don't, but I know, and that's
Speaker 2: why the numbers so high. But all through the grades
Speaker 2: and how the numbers great out, there's gonna have to
Speaker 2: be something happened to get it to the And again
Speaker 2: this is these two teams. But these two defenses, as
Speaker 2: shit as they are greater against each other than these offenses,
Speaker 2: still doesn't produce that kind of point. So I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that it's a lot, but I like sency enough
Speaker 2: that I think that. I mean, and we've seen Pittsburgh's
Speaker 2: offense now and everybody's seen it. It is so Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers stagnant. It's three tight ends, it's fucking seven yard
Speaker 2: catches at the bass, like there's no explosiveness to this
Speaker 2: offense at all. The only thing scares me about the
Speaker 2: under is that, yeah, fucking Jamar Chase and t Higgins
Speaker 2: is just they could just be dropping bombs out there
Speaker 2: against this fucking, shitty, fucking Pittsburgh secondary. Of course they could.
Speaker 4: You know, Bengals games are seven and two to the
Speaker 4: over this year. They're just they're just a smash over team.
Speaker 2: You don't want to bet the under against them for sure,
Speaker 2: which kind of makes me want about the under even more.
Speaker 4: Because I'm and and uh, let's see what was Joe
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco's first game was three weeks ago against Pittsburgh
Speaker 4: and they're they're three and oh to the over since
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco has been in there, so he's gonna score
Speaker 4: his points. They can't stop anybody. If you're a brave man,
Speaker 4: if you take the under and up Bengals game.
Speaker 2: Let's just say that this kind of makes me want
Speaker 2: to take it even more. Kind of makes you want
Speaker 2: to say, let's see which way just for ships and gigs? Uh,
Speaker 2: forty nine and a half? Was it fifty? So the
Speaker 2: market agrees the market has been it down already because
Speaker 2: it's forty nine A lot of places across the board.
Speaker 2: So it's coming down. It's kinda gone down.
Speaker 4: God bless you people.
Speaker 2: God damn if I could have got a fifty over great.
Speaker 4: There's no between fifty and and that's fifty one is
Speaker 4: the number you want if you're going under.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what watch it? Land fifty and I lose my
Speaker 2: money and I fucking can on Monday and just the
Speaker 2: long er, what a fucking idiot is There's no difference.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's move on to those New York football giants.
Speaker 2: Famous Jamis is back. I'm so excited for this game
Speaker 2: they're hosting. I can't wait. I can't wait to see
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 4: Baby.
Speaker 2: I will have no I will not have a dime
Speaker 2: on this game. And anybody that took the Packers and
Speaker 2: your survivor or if you're thinking about it, you talking
Speaker 2: about Brave, Because here's the thing. You're either gonna get
Speaker 2: three interceptions from Jamis or he's gonna drop four touchdowns
Speaker 2: of your ass. Good luck, good luck either way. I
Speaker 2: don't want any part of this game, Longhan, What do
Speaker 2: you got?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna, I mean, I'm forced to use this
Speaker 4: as another another with without the without the sounder of course,
Speaker 4: but like this has to be another big Dick pick
Speaker 4: because like Jamos is either gonna lose this game by
Speaker 4: thirty or he's gonna win. Just so like I have to.
Speaker 4: And if it's seven and a half, give me give
Speaker 4: me a unit on the seven and a half and
Speaker 4: a half unit seven halfs Oh, they're all gone.
Speaker 2: Literally literally there's seven though, right seven across the board.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll take the seven for a unit and then
Speaker 4: give me give me the money line for a half
Speaker 4: unit because I mean it. First of all, green Bay
Speaker 4: hasn't covered. They haven't covered as a favorite of seven
Speaker 4: or more points all year long. They're just they're they're
Speaker 4: not doing it. So maybe the Giants that well, likely
Speaker 4: the Giants don't win the game for sure.
Speaker 2: But that's stupid number. What says plusy sixty seid, I
Speaker 2: want to give you the plus t seventy five that
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4: I'll take, But like I said, yeah, green Bay doesn't
Speaker 4: cover these big spreads. They haven't done all year and
Speaker 4: theyve been losing. They lost to Carolina is a huge number.
Speaker 4: They lost to Cleveland as a huge number. Like in
Speaker 4: the Dallas game, they they tied, So like how does
Speaker 4: that work out? Actually, if you're on that's just a push.
Speaker 4: I guess if you're on the money, lass just if
Speaker 4: you cut the money, Okay, but yeah, so so the
Speaker 4: fact they don't cover, they can't stop. They can't stop
Speaker 4: the run or excuse me, New York can't stop the run.
Speaker 4: So that's that's the path to victory for Green Bay.
Speaker 4: So take the ball out of Love's hand. It's not working,
Speaker 4: you know. I know he's overall grading decent for the year,
Speaker 4: but a lot of that was in the beginning of
Speaker 4: the year. They're down Tucker Craft, they're down Jalen Reed,
Speaker 4: they're down Romeo Dobbs. Same story with the Packers every
Speaker 4: year they Matthew Golden, can can you wake me up
Speaker 4: the next time you hear the number one draft pick
Speaker 4: out of Texas Matthew Golden's name, Like, like, somebody remind
Speaker 4: me the next time he makes a play in the NFL,
Speaker 4: Like they're just the curse franchise with wide receivers. Stop
Speaker 4: doing it. And when we were in Green Bay for
Speaker 4: the draft, when he took the receiver out of Texas,
Speaker 4: I said, I said, why, Like this is just that's
Speaker 4: not that doesn't Why do you do that. But they
Speaker 4: he's got no one to throw to and he's just
Speaker 4: running out of people to throw too. And I think,
Speaker 4: I think the jamis thing. It's gonna be a fun ride,
Speaker 4: Like I don't, we don't know what's gonna happen. He
Speaker 4: might throw a pick six or two. But it's musty TV,
Speaker 4: I can tell you that. And I can't wait to
Speaker 4: watch it, and I want, I literally want to have
Speaker 4: action on this game just so I can put it
Speaker 4: on one of my TVs and watch either the train
Speaker 4: wreck or the or the fucking amazing win for the Giants.
Speaker 4: So what do you got?
Speaker 2: Well, goodness for your giants. Bread gets to run. But
Speaker 2: since week seven, they weren't dead last. Now they're thirty first,
Speaker 2: so let's go. We moved on to the spot.
Speaker 4: I mean, when you're last, you got nowhere to go
Speaker 4: but up.
Speaker 2: Nowhere to go up and the hey man, they made
Speaker 2: enough spot, So good job on that. I got nothing
Speaker 2: of this game. I can't wait to watch this game.
Speaker 2: God bless anybody that's balls enough to take anybody, or
Speaker 2: if you hoard yourself into We took Green Bay, which
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of people on them. I
Speaker 2: hope to God, I hope the god Longhorn hits this
Speaker 2: fucking big tacking the Giants fucking win, because that's gonna
Speaker 2: make survivor easier. All Right, speaking of another game that
Speaker 2: gotten a little bit away from us here, Uh so
Speaker 2: much quarterback news. I don't know what happened or whatever.
Speaker 2: I guess maybe bumped his head again. But it's those
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans hosting those Houston I said, Houston with Stroud.
Speaker 2: Stroud somehow magically out again.
Speaker 4: This isn't that bullshit? Like like these quarterbacks that are
Speaker 4: that are missing games for head injuries and concussions, like
Speaker 4: I get it with Jackson Dart in which we didn't
Speaker 4: even talk about when we were just in the Giants.
Speaker 4: But like, by the way, Jackson Dart, you got major issues,
Speaker 4: like you gotta clean this stuff. That's his third concussion
Speaker 4: this year? Did you know that? Both Sevis? That's his third. Now,
Speaker 4: that's his third concussion of the year. No, he's been
Speaker 4: not like I mean, he remember he got remember the
Speaker 4: blue tint. Okay, it's his third. Yeah, it's his third.
Speaker 4: I've got to go get checked out for a concussion.
Speaker 4: Which if you're getting checked out, you got ding and
Speaker 4: it's just to the point where he plays too reckless.
Speaker 4: So watch that. Going forward with with Jackson's art, he's
Speaker 4: not a very smart guy when he's running the ball.
Speaker 2: That one ever, the first one.
Speaker 4: You mean, when you do TikTok dances, when you celebrate
Speaker 4: and you look like a frat boy, that it doesn't
Speaker 4: you don't think that this is you know, this isn't
Speaker 4: gonna be good. I don't know. It's sure, it's fun though,
Speaker 4: but yeah it with Stroud like it's like not we
Speaker 4: we watched the the the Dallas Cowboys documentary with the
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones thing and then the nineties Cowboys. Hello Troy Yeikman.
Speaker 4: He talked about it. He played a whole game where
Speaker 4: he didn't remember it. After he played once he got
Speaker 4: hit in the knee with the with the helmet. He
Speaker 4: literally the next the next say, he watched the film
Speaker 4: of the game and he's like, I have no idea
Speaker 4: what happened after that. But he played the whole time,
Speaker 4: and so it's just I don't know it just I
Speaker 4: know it's a new it's a new era and these
Speaker 4: players are soft and it's all about CTE and all
Speaker 4: this bullshit. But he took a week off. You took
Speaker 4: a week off, and you still can't get your ass,
Speaker 4: get your asked up there and find that fucking dog
Speaker 4: and play a game. I gets this, sorry ass. Pitan's
Speaker 4: that's a free square. You have a free square. Win.
Speaker 4: You get to go out there, you get to boost
Speaker 4: your stats, you get to throw it around the yard.
Speaker 4: You're gonna get like probably two or three touchdowns for sure.
Speaker 4: And now I don't know what to do because we
Speaker 4: got we got Davis Mills who looked like absolute dog
Speaker 4: shit for three quarters last week and then went donkey
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter against Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: Seven seventh quarter. Well, no, he didn't start the other game,
Speaker 2: so whatever whatever he was in plus the first three
Speaker 2: plus the rest of his life.
Speaker 4: So I don't I really don't know. I'm just pissed
Speaker 4: that they took the pre square away from me because
Speaker 4: what what is it? What's the line movement? Like, what's
Speaker 4: officially down to? And where do you think it's going?
Speaker 4: So all the way down? I'm still gonna take Houston,
Speaker 4: Like I mean, I've talked about this earlier. Why do you.
Speaker 2: Jesus on Jesus, it's six flat? But wherever there is
Speaker 2: juices on the sixth, so we could heading to five
Speaker 2: and a half territory here.
Speaker 4: I mean, the Titans are three and six ATS, and
Speaker 4: my only question to that is, how the hell did
Speaker 4: they ever get the three I have no clue how
Speaker 4: they even got three ats ats covers. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: want to be on Houston and it's now homeboy. Their
Speaker 4: best player on defense for Tennessee whose names escape with me?
Speaker 4: Right now? I will get it. Justin Simmons. There's rumors
Speaker 4: he might play. He's raiding out. He's raiding out right now.
Speaker 4: Is the second defensive tackle win the league. And he's
Speaker 4: always been in the top five or ten, like he's
Speaker 4: a p Neil All Pro Pro Bowl type player. Why
Speaker 4: he would come back, I don't know, like like like,
Speaker 4: why are you even coming back? He must love football
Speaker 4: and that that's that's great for him. Just maybe since
Speaker 4: this one division, maybe sit this one out. So and
Speaker 4: I've got no faith in in the Texas or the
Speaker 4: Titans coming off of a bye with a shitty coach
Speaker 4: and no direction and no offense. Hey, it's still the
Speaker 4: free Square to me. Although I'm a little bit timid,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a tester. The only thing I have
Speaker 2: in this game is coming off a buye since twenty one,
Speaker 2: You're home and the dog. This is the spot. Fifteen
Speaker 2: ats plus two point two sixty percent on an averageon
Speaker 2: of four point four that has them obviously covering the
Speaker 2: six eleven or fourteen straight up forty four percent that
Speaker 2: actually is a little bit better than average and only
Speaker 2: losing by two point two points per game. I did
Speaker 2: pull the division on thing was only like four games.
Speaker 2: That's not going enough sample SiZ to talk about.
Speaker 4: So can I just say just think nothing about all that?
Speaker 4: For a year and a half or more, there's been
Speaker 4: nothing but great spots for Tennessee. It's just like, just
Speaker 4: go down. How many times have I lost bets on
Speaker 4: great spots with Tennessee? Like, so, I agree, it's another
Speaker 4: great spot for Tennessee. It doesn't seem to fucking matter
Speaker 4: with them. So yeah, I'm I'm gonna be on the Texans.
Speaker 2: They're literally the IOWA of fucking professional football. Like they
Speaker 2: have to have a special team score. They've gotta have
Speaker 2: a defensive score. They've gotta have these to even fucking
Speaker 2: have a chance of winning a game, much less covering
Speaker 2: a game just to.
Speaker 4: Cover perfect perfect example is before the buy when they
Speaker 4: played the Chargers, they had they had two kick return
Speaker 4: touchdowns and then one field goal off of I don't
Speaker 4: remember the scenario. We I talked about it during that game.
Speaker 4: That was their seventeen points and oh they got They
Speaker 4: managed to get one more field go on their own,
Speaker 4: so they got three points on their own. That is
Speaker 4: the only way they cover. And is that gonna happen?
Speaker 4: Breathe the bike and post the post by I doubt it.
Speaker 4: Give me the Texas to win twenty to twenty three
Speaker 4: to fucking I don't know nine.
Speaker 2: And Davis Mills for twenty three points, I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's tall.
Speaker 4: Well he did. He did twenty six and one quarter.
Speaker 4: So by your tongue, siry, I mean he did it.
Speaker 4: He did it one quarter last week?
Speaker 2: Did he use up all his points for the No?
Speaker 4: No, He's charging his way back to a starter role
Speaker 4: and it started. It started last week in the fourth
Speaker 4: quarter and it continues this week against Tennessee.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny about this, I was like, when
Speaker 2: I saw the fact that Davis was gonna start, I
Speaker 2: went to like the comments section of the thing. It
Speaker 2: popped up on the app and literally, like everybody in
Speaker 2: Fantasy was like hell yeah, like fucking Nico, Nico king
Speaker 2: Niko to the house, Nico max points Nika, like everything
Speaker 2: was like yay, yay, yay, we get Davis Mills is
Speaker 2: not fucking Stroud. So it was like, it was so
Speaker 2: funny to see that, like you do people people did
Speaker 2: watch the game, right.
Speaker 4: Like I get it, but still no, they don't watch
Speaker 4: the game. They just watch their fantasy team scoreboard, the
Speaker 4: matchup scoreboard. I thought they don't. They don't, they don't care.
Speaker 2: All right, well, here's a game where you probably don't
Speaker 2: need to watch the fantasy matchup scoreboard. It's my Jacksonville
Speaker 2: Jaguars hosting those Sandyago Superges. They are three point home dogs.
Speaker 2: It was two and a half earlier in the week
Speaker 2: this one. I think we're sitting at a pretty solid three. Now,
Speaker 2: let me double check. Here we go. Still still two
Speaker 2: and a half at Circa and oh sorry, at Westgate,
Speaker 2: but three pretty much everywhere else. Juice to the three though,
Speaker 2: so let's call it two point seventy five, but only
Speaker 2: one two and a half left Long Horn, so it's
Speaker 2: pretty much of the three or you're taking three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one you can get. I don't think you
Speaker 4: can get more than three, though I don't think so either.
Speaker 4: This one was a struggle for me. I didn't find
Speaker 4: any deciding factors in this one. I don't even I
Speaker 4: don't even have a team that I want to be on, Like,
Speaker 4: I can't even decide who I even want to be
Speaker 4: on in an abstract angle on this because I don't
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence. I hate him with a passion. I never want,
Speaker 4: never want to be on him. But the defense of
Speaker 4: the Jaguars I do think has a nice little spot
Speaker 4: here against that offensive line of the Chargers. And the
Speaker 4: Chargers are coming coming in, you know, down into the
Speaker 4: Miami you know area. It's all the way across the country,
Speaker 4: you know. But I don't feel great about it. And
Speaker 4: at three points, at three points, I'm a lean to Jackson.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna waste the times. It's kind of like
Speaker 4: a pass for me, basically, but on unforced lean, I'll
Speaker 4: take the Jaguars at home getting to the three. But
Speaker 4: this is this to talk me into one side or
Speaker 4: the other because I don't like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I could, uh Kyle Regan is a
Speaker 2: no cale here. It's fair line these He's got the
Speaker 2: Chargers forty three and a half is where the overs
Speaker 2: sitting in over under. I've got the charge running twenty
Speaker 2: five twenty two, so literally right on the number, a
Speaker 2: little bit over. I kind of like the over a
Speaker 2: little bit here. Now, this is a terrible matchup for
Speaker 2: my boy too. He loses two points to the VBG,
Speaker 2: not expecting a lot of good things out of him.
Speaker 2: Good matchup for the Jason running game, though, when we
Speaker 2: know that's the catalyst and this whole offense. So I
Speaker 2: think there's an avenue for them to score those twenty
Speaker 2: two points because on the other side, it's a flat
Speaker 2: matchup for herbs and a flat matchup for their running game,
Speaker 2: So I expect them to do what they normally do. Now,
Speaker 2: you've got a couple of buy situations. I'll get to
Speaker 2: in a second. But if you ask me about defense,
Speaker 2: Jackson's defense has been decent this year. However, if I
Speaker 2: asked you Longhorn, since Week seven, who's the third worst
Speaker 2: defense success rate in the entire league? Who would you
Speaker 2: guess that is?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna guess you're gonna say.
Speaker 2: Jacksonville, Jacksonville the only two teams worse in Washington in
Speaker 2: the Bengals. That's pretty fucking bad. And this Chargers defense
Speaker 2: started good, still good. Last four weeks number five, they've
Speaker 2: been Yeah.
Speaker 4: They've been. They've been doing well. And what was the
Speaker 4: week that you said the Jaguars Since that, they've been
Speaker 4: going bad since week seven, since week seven, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: this is not good because like you can give them
Speaker 4: past the week seven because they played the Rams the
Speaker 4: week then they had to buy, and then week nine
Speaker 4: to ten it's the fucking Raiders and the Texans with
Speaker 4: Davis Mills like that, you're not trending well. I don't
Speaker 4: like that at all.
Speaker 2: I don't like that at all. I don't like them.
Speaker 2: I don't like the fact that Trevor Larris got a
Speaker 2: bad match up here. Now if you look at the
Speaker 2: bye week though, so the Chargers going into the bye
Speaker 2: so that before the buye away favorites again, That's why
Speaker 2: I don't like the Jacksonville Jaguars. Here twenty and fifteen
Speaker 2: ATS fifty seven covered by one point three points. That's
Speaker 2: on an Amazon of three and a half. We're already
Speaker 2: under that.
Speaker 4: So that's that's almost enough. That's good enough for me
Speaker 4: to for a time breaker. So forget what I said.
Speaker 4: I like the Chargers now because like I was up
Speaker 4: throwing everything else and there was nothing standing out at
Speaker 4: least that with twenty that's thirty five game samples, so
Speaker 4: it's not like a small stample. That's good enough for
Speaker 4: me on a game that I had no way to
Speaker 4: decide which way to go, I'll take that. I'll switch
Speaker 4: my my wan to the Chargers.
Speaker 2: And then if you look at the same thing, but
Speaker 2: you're playing a team not in your division, because a
Speaker 2: lot of these games this week are divisions, well let's
Speaker 2: see what it's not in the division. That's fifteen and
Speaker 2: nine ats covering by two points a game, a line
Speaker 2: of exactly three sixteen and seven straight up sixty nine
Speaker 2: points six percent. That is over that both of them
Speaker 2: are over the average straight up twenty three and ten
Speaker 2: sixteen and seven fifteen to nine sixty two and a
Speaker 2: half percent. But to my numbers point both trends slightly
Speaker 2: over on the big trend eighteen sixteen and one, but
Speaker 2: going over at one point two points per clip, and
Speaker 2: that's in the line of forty five and a half.
Speaker 2: We're only at forty three and a half. The total
Speaker 2: just seems low to me, and I understand because Jacksonville's
Speaker 2: offense has been so bad. But again, there is an
Speaker 2: avenue for ETN to bust a couple of those big
Speaker 2: plays in this game, which will be the difference this
Speaker 2: game gets over or not. I just expect the Chargers
Speaker 2: go score there twenty three to twenty six points somewhere
Speaker 2: around in there. I got a great twenty five. If
Speaker 2: Jacksonville can get in that twenty one range, we're home
Speaker 2: on and over. Anyway I could play, this would be
Speaker 2: the over and no other way at all, because again
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to do with Jacksonville at
Speaker 2: this point of will numbers say it's going to be
Speaker 2: right on the number. It's an easy pass for me.
Speaker 4: Just a side note, has nothing to do with this game.
Speaker 4: I've talked about it in weeks past. The tension and
Speaker 4: the aggravation between this new coach Cohen and this quarterback.
Speaker 4: I think he despises this guy with every ounce of
Speaker 4: his being. Like, and TL's got a huge contract, you know,
Speaker 4: he just got paid not that long ago.
Speaker 2: We see you not how could you not despise the
Speaker 2: guy that you see do things in practice, you see
Speaker 2: do things in the game. You're like, why don't you
Speaker 2: just do that all the fucking time.
Speaker 4: Well, it's not, well, it's not even just that, it's
Speaker 4: it's some of it's some of the I remember talking
Speaker 4: about a few weeks ago where he was literally standing
Speaker 4: next to the next to the ref with his arms like,
Speaker 4: literally right next to the ref could have called time out,
Speaker 4: had a time on his back, and he was just
Speaker 4: watching and his every every part of his bible was like,
Speaker 4: are you actually going to see what's going on and
Speaker 4: call this time out yourself? I'm right here, I could
Speaker 4: do it. He's literally right next to me. I got
Speaker 4: my arms crossed, like I'm a pissed off parent watching
Speaker 4: a child do something stupid. And he didn't do it.
Speaker 4: And he just shook his head when the play went
Speaker 4: too when the playcock went to zero and they got
Speaker 4: the lay a game, Like, I think he hates this
Speaker 4: guy so much. The lack of football passion coming from
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield. Remember he's he coached Baker Mayfild last year.
Speaker 4: Who all you get with him is passion, love of
Speaker 4: the game, intensity, and he comes to this guy who's
Speaker 4: five inches taller, six inches taller all the time in
Speaker 4: the world, like where is Like I think he I
Speaker 4: think he wants to get rid of the yeo. I
Speaker 4: don't know if he's gonna have to pull with that
Speaker 4: kind of contract to do it. But that kind of tension, now,
Speaker 4: that's not good. You don't want that kind of tension
Speaker 4: between coach and quarterback. You want that, you want that
Speaker 4: to be a marriage. So I think that explains a
Speaker 4: lot of the issues going on with Jacksonville. And that's
Speaker 4: that's more of a story for the offseason because because
Speaker 4: they're not doing anything obviously this year.
Speaker 2: I actually saw as a snake preview of It's kind
Speaker 2: of one of those in season things they interviewed h
Speaker 2: TL LIKEAB like, you know, just give us like thirty
Speaker 2: seconds in your person. Years later, a doctor will tell
Speaker 2: me that I have an IQ of forty eight. And
Speaker 2: then what some people call mentally retarded.
Speaker 4: Yes, I was about to say, I thought you were
Speaker 4: being serious every thing, because I've literally never seen him
Speaker 4: talk about anything like I mean, I don't I have
Speaker 4: to struggle to like even think in my mind what
Speaker 4: his voice even sounds like. I just he doesn't do anything.
Speaker 4: He's just he's a robot who doesn't care about football.
Speaker 4: That's not good for quarterback.
Speaker 2: Here's what I will say. I don't think we've ever
Speaker 2: seen and your girl Taylor spoke in the same place
Speaker 2: same time. I'm just I'm not saying I'm just saying, Yeah, he's.
Speaker 4: The gangly bitch, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on. Let's go Buffalo. What are
Speaker 2: you doing hosting those Tampa bakers and all that fire?
Speaker 2: Five and a half is what I had this one
Speaker 2: sitting at earlier. I think we're still close to that now. Man,
Speaker 2: this this line, Yeah, it's five and a half across
Speaker 2: the board, but Bota's got it at six juice A
Speaker 2: little bit on the six. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know which way it's gonna go. The money's kind of
Speaker 2: trickling in on Buffalo right now, so they could get
Speaker 2: back It opened at six, what's to five and a half?
Speaker 2: Still five and a half juice, It could get back
Speaker 2: to six weather coming in. I don't know, what do
Speaker 2: you go on?
Speaker 4: This tug of war on this one? And I was
Speaker 4: torn a lot and this one, this is kind of
Speaker 4: like a the week of tie breakers for me and
Speaker 4: liking both sides for different reasons and having to find
Speaker 4: one thing to pull me one way or the other.
Speaker 4: And that's kind of how I handicapped this one. So
Speaker 4: things on both sides are like, first of all, you
Speaker 4: already got Baker as a dog, and Baker is a dog.
Speaker 4: That's a sweet spot. Baker is a dog coming off
Speaker 4: a loss. That's another sweet spot. Fifteen and four career
Speaker 4: as a dog. Baker is seventeen and seven as a
Speaker 4: dog off of a loss ATS. So there's all I mean,
Speaker 4: without even like thinking, you already know Baker dog coming
Speaker 4: up loss. Boom, there's your spot for Tampa Bay. However,
Speaker 4: Josh Allen's got some stats on his side too, coming
Speaker 4: off of because they're off a loss too. So Josh
Speaker 4: Allen coming off a loss at a road loss is
Speaker 4: a big favorite. Next game, he's six and three ATS.
Speaker 4: You'd like that to be a little bit higher, but
Speaker 4: still that's sixty Yeah, that's six and three. Yeah, that's ats.
Speaker 4: So that's nothing to sneeze at. Josh coming off of
Speaker 4: a game where they scored less than seventeen points. The
Speaker 4: next game they're thirteen and six ATS. So when he
Speaker 4: doesn't score a lot of points, and if you're under
Speaker 4: seventeen for a Buffalo offense in his career, that's putrid.
Speaker 4: The next game they show up thirteen and six ats.
Speaker 4: So all these were like tug of war type things
Speaker 4: where I couldn't make my mind until I found this.
Speaker 2: That's even with like the early shitty Josh Allen yours too,
Speaker 2: where they were nineteen points they were lucky to get to.
Speaker 2: So I'd like to see what that is like over
Speaker 2: the last five years, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: see became John Wayne.
Speaker 4: So and then here's my tiebreaker and why I landed
Speaker 4: on Buffalo and I don't know why as New England
Speaker 4: just dropped the ball with Baker's not running the ball anymore.
Speaker 4: In the last three games he has zero zero yards rushing,
Speaker 4: zero rushing attempts both. What is yes, but this is
Speaker 4: not being reported that he's not on the injury list.
Speaker 4: Something is going on because that is such a bread
Speaker 4: and butter part of their offense him him just doing
Speaker 4: these wild ass third and long second and long like.
Speaker 2: Just spreads yet game We're back to what was the
Speaker 2: other game? Another really good team he had that insane.
Speaker 4: San fran San Francisco. So like, without that, that's gotta
Speaker 4: be a tiebreaker. So you know, I'm not gonna go
Speaker 4: crazy on his game, obviously because because I do have
Speaker 4: respect for those numbers with Baker as a dog coming
Speaker 4: off a loss. But when I when I gotta, I
Speaker 4: gotta pick somebody. If you're in a contest picking every game,
Speaker 4: you got to pick somebody against the spread. That's my tiebreaker.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be on Buffalo. Try to catch them at
Speaker 4: the minus five and a half. If you agree, If
Speaker 4: you disagree, let it tick up to six. Grab the Bucks.
Speaker 2: Yep, so powering, he said five and a half. Great
Speaker 2: for the Bucks v two those on no call. I've
Speaker 2: got Buffalo winning twenty five to twenty one. So that
Speaker 2: would be Tampa Bay covering. It's under the forty seven
Speaker 2: and a half. Look, it should be a decent game.
Speaker 2: Josh Allen gains a half a point the BPG. It's
Speaker 2: a bad matchup for Baker. He loses the point in half.
Speaker 2: And that's not even counting what Longhorn just said. But
Speaker 2: his running abillity maybe hampered just because maybe he's hurt. However,
Speaker 2: how I can see Tampa Bay covering this game, they
Speaker 2: gained a point and a half of the bbtth the
Speaker 2: rushing Buffalo's rushing defense not good. Tampa Bay Buffalo loses
Speaker 2: the half a point. Tampa Bay Longhorn since week seven
Speaker 2: is the number one success rate rushing defense. They're trending
Speaker 2: up and up and up. So that is what will
Speaker 2: keep them in this game, is not allowing James Cook
Speaker 2: to go off, holding that Buffalo running game and check
Speaker 2: making Josh Allen move the ball down the field. We've
Speaker 2: seen him get frustrated in some of these kind of games,
Speaker 2: felt some interceptions like he did last week in Miami.
Speaker 2: You know, we've seen that happen. So I think that's
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay's path to victory is just stifling that running game,
Speaker 2: which they absolutely should be able to do. However, on
Speaker 2: the other side, they should be able run the ball well.
Speaker 2: But with Baker gritting out so badly, I can't go
Speaker 2: crazy on the Tampa Bay side either, because if Baker's
Speaker 2: not great, it's gonna be very tough to cover that
Speaker 2: five and a half six points. If he can beat
Speaker 2: my numbers a little bit, they can run the ball really,
Speaker 2: really well and really shut down that Buffalo running game,
Speaker 2: which is only half a point down, so it's not
Speaker 2: like crazy shutdown. But if it gets even better than that,
Speaker 2: then yeah, I think I think Tampa Bay could be
Speaker 2: a live dog in this game. If all those things
Speaker 2: come to fruition. Overall, it's great. And I got Buffalo
Speaker 2: winning by four slightly under the total, which if you
Speaker 2: look how Tampa Bay's offense has been going lately and
Speaker 2: Buffalo's offense is been going lately, it's not a stretch
Speaker 2: to think that they don't score forty eight points in
Speaker 2: this game.
Speaker 4: So and lean under buck. Irvin has been LP the
Speaker 4: last couple of practices, so limited limited, that's trending towards
Speaker 4: maybe he plays. So if he gets announced, if he's a,
Speaker 4: if he's a full participant in Friday's practice, look out
Speaker 4: that this this line will drop back down to five
Speaker 4: and a half for sure, maybe maybe even five because
Speaker 4: he is a. You know, I don't think we quite
Speaker 4: understand how important he is to that Tima Bay offense.
Speaker 2: He's everything on this one because they're only their only
Speaker 2: path to covering because it's not a Baker game on
Speaker 2: this one. So unless Baker's just pulling shut out of
Speaker 2: his ass what she absolutely can, and we've seen him do,
Speaker 2: but we don't generally see the Baker do there for
Speaker 2: four for four quarters, that's when you see the Baker. Eventually,
Speaker 2: the dust of the pick does get the fumble, especially.
Speaker 4: If he's not running, especially if he's not running.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely all right, let's move on to those Arizona
Speaker 2: midgetless Cardinals hosting. Oh my god, the man is finally
Speaker 2: coming back.
Speaker 4: I can't believe this, big dick. I cannot believe this.
Speaker 2: And this line didn't move a fucking inch. So let's see.
Speaker 2: It's just still should be sitting at three. It is
Speaker 2: sitting are yeah three three with no juice across the board,
Speaker 2: is three points road favorite for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: Again, another game I'm completely torn on. And I don't
Speaker 4: actually this brock Party news. I actually don't like it.
Speaker 4: I I thought, and and maybe it's just a bad
Speaker 4: read by me, but I thought that Shanahan because of
Speaker 4: his love of mac Jones and wanted to draft him.
Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna be like, you know what,
Speaker 4: mac Jones is playing, well, why rush party back? He's
Speaker 4: obviously dealing with with that toe injury. This is risky
Speaker 4: to me because because party is gonna he's definitely not
Speaker 4: gonna be one hundred percent. He's not a hundre. He's
Speaker 4: definitely not one hundred percent, and he's definitely gonna be rusty.
Speaker 4: With that said, sand Frand is about as healthy as
Speaker 4: they're ever gonna get this year. Obviously, they're missing players
Speaker 4: that are done for the year, you can't do anything
Speaker 4: about that. But as far as like players that were
Speaker 4: like you know in and out Ricky pearsol Is coming back,
Speaker 4: this is as healthy as they're gonna get this year
Speaker 4: right now, assuming Brock party Is is going to come
Speaker 4: back and play, so ah Man and in the Harrison
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison being out for for the Arizona you know,
Speaker 4: you want to say this, what's that? Yeah, Fenocidis. So
Speaker 4: that's that's tough break for them. I wanted I wanted
Speaker 4: to be on Arizona much in the in the second
Speaker 4: half of the year. And you know what San France
Speaker 4: coming off at I know, Sam Fran coming off a loss,
Speaker 4: and and I did write down what is the McCaffrey
Speaker 4: advantage situation this because that's that's like I want to
Speaker 4: be on San Fran. I need you to tell me
Speaker 4: this is a plus matchup for him if it is.
Speaker 4: Despite the Party news, which I do not like. I
Speaker 4: wanted it to be MATC Jones, I will I will
Speaker 4: still be on San.
Speaker 2: Fran So it wasn't even to great this game. But
Speaker 2: I knew you're gonna ask for that, so at least
Speaker 2: created the rushing part out for Party, I mean for McCaffrey. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's a flat matchup for him, so he should get
Speaker 2: about what he gets, which is probably enough in this game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that doesn't. That doesn't make my balls team. When
Speaker 4: you're saying like that, you're not You're not saying it
Speaker 4: with your chest.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing too, is like this San Fan
Speaker 2: defense has been so bad, dude, of the last four weeks,
Speaker 2: since all these injuries. I mean, look, big prompts to
Speaker 2: their defensive coordinator. He's held this thing together with fucking
Speaker 2: you know, bailing twine and every other fucking thing he
Speaker 2: could for four weeks. They're twenty seventh in Russian success rate.
Speaker 2: Let's see, they're in dropback success rate, oh, twenty nine,
Speaker 2: so basically there's a twenty eight. They're the fourth worst
Speaker 2: defense in the NFL for the last month. So that's
Speaker 2: the kind of success that I think, or the kind
Speaker 2: of spot where I didn't like the Cardinals last week.
Speaker 2: I was on Seattle because I didn't think Ja Cobb
Speaker 2: Set versus a really good defense could have that same success.
Speaker 2: Now against this defense, I think Jacoby Set could have
Speaker 2: plenty of success. Now he is missing Marvin Harrison. That
Speaker 2: does hurt. That hurts he got in that's his number
Speaker 2: one dude. He's actually using him, you know, like you
Speaker 2: should use the number one receiver, well.
Speaker 4: Him, him and McBride, you know, him and McBride.
Speaker 2: Like McBride's always no matter who start. But like I mean,
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison's being criminally underused with the midget in there
Speaker 2: because he can't see him. But Jacob Russett was targeting
Speaker 2: him specifically, which is what you should do. And against
Speaker 2: the bad defense like this. If Marvin Harrison is playing,
Speaker 2: I would already bet the Partinals, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: But without him, with Broad coming back, it's there's too
Speaker 2: many unknowns in this. As you know, his other best
Speaker 2: to be made. I'm this is just to stay away
Speaker 2: from me. Yeah, I still I didn't get the slam
Speaker 2: dunk rating from McCaffrey.
Speaker 4: So I'm like that, Yeah, even with us spending five
Speaker 4: minutes going back and forth in this game, I still
Speaker 4: I don't have a great feel either way. I really don't,
Speaker 4: because because I do think I do think Brissette's gonna
Speaker 4: be able to sit back there and find his targets
Speaker 4: and and then and this is just gonna be and
Speaker 4: if you're getting the three points, and I just I
Speaker 4: don't like it. Stay away from this one unless you
Speaker 4: unless you're forced to stay away from this one.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to a game against the
Speaker 2: two teams that I just said on Monday that I
Speaker 2: thought him separated themselves the rest of this pile of
Speaker 2: mediocrity in the NFC, and that's those Los Angeles Rams
Speaker 2: hosting those Seattle Seahawks. Now this one, uh, this line
Speaker 2: has moved a little bit. Let's see, at least the
Speaker 2: juice had been bouncing around so open at three and
Speaker 2: that's kind of coming back. Now it's three and a
Speaker 2: half only at Bobada, and that's that's very heavily juice.
Speaker 2: Pretty much three juice kind of mixed. Man, It's just
Speaker 2: it's kind of been bouncing back and forth. The betting
Speaker 2: Mark has been very torn on this one, so I
Speaker 2: don't know what you got on this game.
Speaker 4: I am shockingly because Seattle is my NFC the Championship
Speaker 4: Game participant. I don't have them winning going in the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, but I've got them in the Championship game,
Speaker 4: picked them and win this division. I love the Rams
Speaker 4: in this spot. I think that the Rams are set
Speaker 4: up to exposed this defense. Who when they played past
Speaker 4: them when they play a real quarterback And I'm trying
Speaker 4: to pull that up because I had that kind of
Speaker 4: in my notes to pull up. But when they played
Speaker 4: like a Baker, When Baker played Seattle, Baker had his way.
Speaker 4: When they played let's see who's the other, Well, well,
Speaker 4: I guess, I guess. Have they played anybody besides Baker
Speaker 4: that's a good quarterback? Jesus, look at their list of
Speaker 4: quarterbacks they've played. They haven't played it, Okay, So that's
Speaker 4: the point. They played one real quarterback and they got
Speaker 4: fucking toasted. So yeah, I'm gonna be on the Rams here.
Speaker 4: These are two great teams. I think these are both
Speaker 4: teams that could that could be in the Ncrater Championship Game.
Speaker 4: And they're both seven and two straight up. They're both
Speaker 4: seven and two at S So this is definitely one
Speaker 4: of the games of the week to watch. But I
Speaker 4: think I think this matchup favors the Rams and and
Speaker 4: and I'm only in that way, and I got a
Speaker 4: couple of trends that that that back to meet up.
Speaker 4: McVeigh is twelve and five ats in his career versus
Speaker 4: Seattle with Stafford four and one ats.
Speaker 2: Rams.
Speaker 4: Yes, so, and we've talked about this so much in
Speaker 4: the past. In this division, you cannot ignore it. It's
Speaker 4: like it's you're you have to have a reason to
Speaker 4: go against that, and you have to deem good reason.
Speaker 4: And I don't see one here, so yeah. And the
Speaker 4: other one was Seattle hasn't played any opposing good quarterbacks
Speaker 4: besides Baker, who lit their ass up. So yeah, it's
Speaker 4: all Rams for me, reluctantly because because I love Seattle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that I was gonna be with you
Speaker 2: on this. I'm now torn just going there right now.
Speaker 2: First of all, it's a no by the Power Rings,
Speaker 2: no cob by the b two. I've got Seattle grading
Speaker 2: out to win twenty one to twenty damn really both
Speaker 2: of these, yeah, both of them. But here's the thing,
Speaker 2: this is a terrible matchup about these offenses. Again, I
Speaker 2: can only go off what they've done and the grades
Speaker 2: and who they've played. Stafford loses two points, Sammy d
Speaker 2: lose a point and a half. Rams was a point
Speaker 2: and a half in the running game. Seattle lose a
Speaker 2: half a point. I just, man, I think this is
Speaker 2: gonna be a fucking good, old fashioned slobber knocker. I
Speaker 2: know the totals high, I've got it going.
Speaker 4: It could be. I could see that. I could see
Speaker 4: that happening too.
Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of like that. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like the we talked about the Philly game and Detroit
Speaker 2: last week, No Phillian. Who was it was the Philly Detroit,
Speaker 2: No Philly in green Bay? Yeah, And you're like, I
Speaker 2: don't see how green Bay scores. I don't see how
Speaker 2: fucking Philly scores. I guess what. Neither one who fucking scores?
Speaker 2: So it kind of has that feel to be right
Speaker 2: here with two really good teams.
Speaker 4: Well, but we we can both see them. I could
Speaker 4: see both of them. I could see it scoring going
Speaker 4: crazy too. And this one was not like, not quite
Speaker 4: like last week.
Speaker 2: It's just it's such a bad matchup for and these
Speaker 2: teams know each other so well. Look, I mean it's
Speaker 2: to me on this one. It comes down who you
Speaker 2: trust more. Because you've got one guy on one side
Speaker 2: that's the offensive dude. You got the other guy on
Speaker 2: the other side, McDonald, who's obviously the defensive dude. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't this this chess match is gonna be so
Speaker 2: good on both sides. You know which quarterback you trust more.
Speaker 2: We've seen what Sammy d does against a good team
Speaker 2: when he's facing a quarterback that's better than him, Like
Speaker 2: you talked about Baker obviously established better than him, seeing
Speaker 2: him kind of wilt in those situations. So I don't
Speaker 2: feel great about Seattle. I was ready to fucking hammer
Speaker 2: the Rams. I thought the money would come in on Seattle.
Speaker 2: I thought this would be two and a half easily
Speaker 2: by the time we got to the podcast. It has
Speaker 2: not happened. It's been a tugg O world all week long,
Speaker 2: the money coming in both sides in the marketplace. I
Speaker 2: think everybody's kind of feeling how we're feeling, Like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, Seattle's been great. The Rams have surged
Speaker 2: to great. They didn't start out great. They've surged great.
Speaker 2: Which which one of these is a paper tiger, and
Speaker 2: which one of these is actually gonna be the team
Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch it. I know that there's you know,
Speaker 2: I mean this week is one of them. For sure.
Speaker 4: You say they didn't start off right. They they've got
Speaker 4: two losses. The one was the fluke one to Philly
Speaker 4: early in the year easily could have been a win,
Speaker 4: and the other one was the fluke were not fluke,
Speaker 4: but they were the thumb on the goal line against
Speaker 4: San Franz. Again say it, so, you know, like they
Speaker 4: could easily easily be undefeated right now and and clearly
Speaker 4: the best team in the NFL. So, I mean, you
Speaker 4: don't win every game, these these tossed up games that
Speaker 4: they could go either way. You're not gonna win every
Speaker 4: one of them. But that's something to be said that
Speaker 4: there are only two losses easily could have been wins
Speaker 4: for them, and if you go to Seattle, let's see,
Speaker 4: their two losses were the opening opening one in San Francisco,
Speaker 4: which it was the close game that that one definitely
Speaker 4: could have gone either way, and then obviously the close
Speaker 4: game against Tampa Bay. So these are two Juggernauts.
Speaker 2: I mean, these are yeah, both these seams are really
Speaker 2: fucking good. Yeah. If you look at the way to
Speaker 2: the last four weeks, so trending bull these Devens is
Speaker 2: trending down a bit. But again, I think with Seattle,
Speaker 2: a lot of that noise gets mixed in with They've
Speaker 2: been blowing people out left right, and the rams kind
Speaker 2: of too. So you know, well, we'll see how that.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how it plays out.
Speaker 4: Oh, for sure. Game of the week, for sure.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to Wow. I thought this
Speaker 2: is a game of week against those Cleveland Browns, those Ravens. Uh,
Speaker 2: this one, this line is fucking banana sandwich. Is that
Speaker 2: I'm seeing nines in some places, which is ridiculous. I'm
Speaker 2: seeing eights, I'm seeing seven and a half. I don't
Speaker 2: even know what to say. At the seven and a half,
Speaker 2: it's basically even everywhere. At the eighties, even at the nine,
Speaker 2: it's plus money in the Browns. I don't know who
Speaker 2: bet online has got somebody's fucking slammed Ravens that book.
Speaker 2: So that's the only explanation I got for that one.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we'll call it seven and a
Speaker 2: half long horn. It's kind of the consensus across the
Speaker 2: at least of all the even money books in the
Speaker 2: Sharper books at seven and a half. So let's say
Speaker 2: seven and a half Ravens Road of Favorites.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'll tell you what I'm seeing. I'm seeing
Speaker 4: the danger zone game of the week. And not only
Speaker 4: do I want the do I want the points the
Speaker 4: plus points? I want to I want two units. And
Speaker 4: I'll explain why I'm gonna sort heavy on this game.
Speaker 4: I want two units on the plus is an eight
Speaker 4: or eight and a half? Consensus?
Speaker 2: Seven and a half the census?
Speaker 4: No way, it's seven seven and a half. Yeah, um, yeah,
Speaker 4: let's just let's just go hard on it. Seven and
Speaker 4: a half, two units and then give me a half
Speaker 4: unit on money line half unit on money line. Okay, Well,
Speaker 4: and here's why, here's why. We've seen some fuckery with
Speaker 4: with Lamar and this this horror ball coaching staff, and
Speaker 4: we've seen we'll see that, we've seen the fucker with
Speaker 4: this team and their quarterback situation. Lamar's dealing with the
Speaker 4: injury again and it and it's been quiet. It's been like, well,
Speaker 4: he's probably gonna play, likely gonna play, and he is
Speaker 4: likely gonna play. But because they have they've got no
Speaker 4: more games to bitch. No, it's an actual injury. He got.
Speaker 4: He got banged up in the game last week, but
Speaker 4: he's got He can't set this one out. They got
Speaker 4: no more room to wiggle here. But if he does play,
Speaker 4: he's still gonna be hurt. And if you're a limited
Speaker 4: we we just talked about Baker not running the ball
Speaker 4: and what that what that does to his game. If
Speaker 4: Lamar is hurt and he's limited in in his running
Speaker 4: game against that defensive line in Cleveland at home, remember
Speaker 4: this is this is Cleveland sweet spot. They're back at home.
Speaker 4: This is where they they play good defense, not shitty
Speaker 4: defense on the road. This is a problem. Baltimore. You
Speaker 4: got a problem if Lamar is not running the ball
Speaker 4: and not effective running the ball against that pass rush.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, because like the Miami game last week
Speaker 4: in Buffalo, I'm just saying, weird things out there. Weird
Speaker 4: thing is gonna happen in these type of spots. This
Speaker 4: is a this is a division game, huge dog at
Speaker 4: home and look, okay, I'm gonna throw it to you
Speaker 4: because I've said my piece, I'm already heavy on it.
Speaker 4: I just put it all out there. So what do
Speaker 4: you got disagreement?
Speaker 2: He slopped it out there on us. No power reig
Speaker 2: is a no call. This line is perfect. Thirty eight
Speaker 2: and a half is disgusting total. I got Baltimore winning
Speaker 2: this game thirteen. That's not a call. It's more within
Speaker 2: half a point or right on market if you've got
Speaker 2: the heat. Uh thirty four points though quite a bit
Speaker 2: to the under. Now, it's not a It's not the
Speaker 2: worst matchup I've ever seen for Jillan Gabriel, say that
Speaker 2: he'll lose a half a point, but any great matchup
Speaker 2: for Lamar, he's that it's flat, so he's nothing special.
Speaker 2: I like that it's a flat matchup for the Baltimore
Speaker 2: for the Browns running game. Derrick Henry in that running
Speaker 2: game loses a point and a half of the versus
Speaker 2: the Cleveland defense. Now here's my caveat to this, And
Speaker 2: this is the defense I was talking about as I
Speaker 2: was looking up like the splits, This Cleveland pass defense
Speaker 2: is slipping hard hard. They are only above average at
Speaker 2: this point, league average at cover one. That's all They're
Speaker 2: that's all they're really good at anymore. They're down to
Speaker 2: fourteenth and EPA and eleventh and success rate against the past.
Speaker 2: They were like number fucking one or two the whole
Speaker 2: first half of the season, and since Week eight against
Speaker 2: the pass they're eighteenth in e PA and sixteenth and
Speaker 2: success rate. I don't remember them playing a lot of
Speaker 2: fucking juggernauts lately, So what what ever's happening? They're slipping
Speaker 2: real fucking hard. I mean, I know what's happening because
Speaker 2: we watched the games. They can't score the ball. When
Speaker 2: you can't score the fucking ball, it is very fucking
Speaker 2: difficult to play great defense when you're always defending plus territory,
Speaker 2: the opponent's always in plus territory, the opponent always has
Speaker 2: the fucking ball. Because you can't fucking get first downs,
Speaker 2: you can't fucking score points. This defense is tired. This
Speaker 2: defense is fucking it's fighting hard, and it is good.
Speaker 2: It's really good, it's really talented. But over the last
Speaker 2: four weeks they are slipping badly. This was a top
Speaker 2: three defense the whole first half of the year. Second
Speaker 2: half the year, they're a blow average defense. Can Lamar
Speaker 2: take advantage of that. If he's hurt, I don't know.
Speaker 2: But what I do know is they don't grade out
Speaker 2: well against them, but they still score twenty one points.
Speaker 2: And if you score twenty one points against the Browns,
Speaker 2: you're gonna win the game. You're gonna fucking win the.
Speaker 4: Game, definitely. So probably don't cover, Probably don't covert cover.
Speaker 2: I got I've got to run on the number. So
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with your I mean, there's a zero
Speaker 2: chance out ever LA seven and a half in Baltimore game.
Speaker 2: I've done that before, and I've learned my lesson, and
Speaker 2: I've done it against like fucking can he Pickett and
Speaker 2: still learn my lesson, Like I've done that. I'm not
Speaker 2: doing that ever again, So I get it. But yeah,
Speaker 2: as far as winning the game, oh, it's gonna say,
Speaker 2: it's gonna take a I mean von Miller, not von Miller,
Speaker 2: but it's my boy Garrett.
Speaker 4: Well it'll it'll take that. And Lamar just having one
Speaker 4: of those like Lamar, what the fuck are you doing
Speaker 4: type game, which which happens all all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this happens all the time. I was just looking at the.
Speaker 2: Pis usually in this matchup Baltimore is like, at this
Speaker 2: point of the season, they're seven and two.
Speaker 4: Right, and not desperate, right?
Speaker 2: Not desperate?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that's a factor for sure. And I was
Speaker 4: just looking at the PFF scores on Cleveland's defense, and
Speaker 4: it's lights out across the board, except for to your point,
Speaker 4: the cornerbacks, which they're really good cornerbacks historically in the past.
Speaker 4: Denzel Award and Tyson Campbell. These are two guys that
Speaker 4: at different points over the last four or five years,
Speaker 4: just because I watched PFF so much in the greats
Speaker 4: top five, top eight type cornerbacks at certain points over
Speaker 4: the last four or five years, it's sometimes it's just
Speaker 4: so weird when you watch these scores and really good
Speaker 4: players who for whatever reason aren't kind of clicking for
Speaker 4: a certain year. But across the board everywhere else on
Speaker 4: this Cleveland defense, it's really fucking good. So I think
Speaker 4: they're a live dogger. They're a love dog to win
Speaker 4: this game.
Speaker 2: I mean again, I've got them great out to shut
Speaker 2: down this running game. He shut down this fucking Baltimore
Speaker 2: running game. Put it all in the bar.
Speaker 4: Like you said, New England wins and covers again. They
Speaker 4: are the team that they have no letdown. There's no
Speaker 4: leadown they did, there's no bad spot.
Speaker 2: Twelve and a half. Oh if you got the look
Speaker 2: the Jets were thirteen and a half for about two
Speaker 2: hours earlier.
Speaker 4: That didn't covery. Oh no, that did cover half. Holy shit,
Speaker 4: So closing line. That was the closing line.
Speaker 2: Thirteen Oh wow half, well closing line. But if you
Speaker 2: were smart enough to get that thirteen and a half,
Speaker 2: oh baby, I got.
Speaker 4: The eleven and a half, So not that. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's a dead number all the way to thirteen, so
Speaker 4: it doesn't fucking matter.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so New England. So hey, I'll move on
Speaker 2: to Survivor.
Speaker 4: But oh well, everybody congratulate him in the comments. Nobody
Speaker 4: gives up. Fuck, we're all dead in the fucking Survivor.
Speaker 4: We don't care.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be caring for your boys holding one hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. I don't care to give me those big checks.
Speaker 2: Even that guy got one.
Speaker 4: That's true because I because I do contractually get half,
Speaker 4: so I never mind. I do care. You're you're well job,
Speaker 4: well done.
Speaker 2: On the wind sir, thank you. We're down to like
Speaker 2: four hundred people now in my Survivor contest. For grand
Speaker 2: So now I will say, I don't know what the
Speaker 2: percentage is. This doesn't give me a percentage of course
Speaker 2: of the week's over. But it's got like a little
Speaker 2: green bar. You can see people selected, lots of people,
Speaker 2: a lot of green on the news.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean for sure, this is like a
Speaker 4: free square for everybody.
Speaker 2: This is so little side under Survivor if you're if
Speaker 2: you're still in Survivor, if you've been playing Survivor ever,
Speaker 2: when you get to this point in the season, it's
Speaker 2: okay to go with the herd. Like you don't need
Speaker 2: to be contrarian right now. You gotta like, from this
Speaker 2: point of season on, you really have to pick a spot.
Speaker 2: You have to pick a spot, say, and you don't
Speaker 2: have to go because some people think, oh well, I
Speaker 2: gotta go with the opposite of what everybody else. No,
Speaker 2: you don't. You don't. You just don't pick the team
Speaker 2: that everybody else is on. You pick a different team
Speaker 2: and then hope to God that that team that you know,
Speaker 2: Carolina loses the fucking h New Orleans is what you
Speaker 2: do that you just don't pick Carolina and hope that
Speaker 2: it goes badly for everybody else. That's really the whole
Speaker 2: key to survivor.
Speaker 4: Can I just say before before we finish a podcast,
Speaker 4: I can't believe that the one of the greatest and
Speaker 4: brightest young black NFL head coaches lost another game by
Speaker 4: double digits. I'm I just I'm always amazed. It's it's
Speaker 4: it's just.
Speaker 2: Had some live commentary on this game.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 2: Let's see, Bruisers, Sue, there we go, pop that up.
Speaker 2: Justin Fields cannot be this damn bad. I mean, Jesus Christ,
Speaker 2: what's the jay and that multiple ease?
Speaker 4: Love the spelling, well that spelling, Bruisers, Sue, I would
Speaker 4: say to you, have you not been watching Justin Fields
Speaker 4: for literally his entire since we.
Speaker 2: Got the coved here, Let's go over his line fifteen
Speaker 2: for twenty six for one hundred and sixteen yards, four
Speaker 2: point five yards per attempt, Yison. Now he didn't throw
Speaker 2: a pick. That's pretty good, and he threw a touchdown.
Speaker 2: What else do you fucking want from this guy? I mean, honestly,
Speaker 2: that's like maybe when of his Game of the Year
Speaker 2: lines right there, Other than the fact that we played
Speaker 2: Remember remember when we when he played Pittsburgh and we
Speaker 2: were all like, oh, no is this justin field thing
Speaker 2: is gonna work out him.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It was the first game of the year and
Speaker 4: he put up.
Speaker 2: A thirty burger against that defense. Oh no, if he's
Speaker 2: gonna do this against Pittsburgh, there's no way they're not
Speaker 2: gonna win six.
Speaker 4: We're fucked.
Speaker 2: We're fine.
Speaker 4: This is when this is when your coach and quarterback
Speaker 4: pulmination meets D E, I and everything and then everything
Speaker 4: goes D I E. You're dead. Jets, You're dead.
Speaker 2: Let's move on to this. This actually might be the game. Well,
Speaker 2: these last two games actually very interesting to be and
Speaker 2: it'd be great point Sminster. So Sunday Night football, it's
Speaker 2: those Dan burd Broncos host Kansas City Jeeps. Now, this
Speaker 2: one was one and a half Kansas City in pre season.
Speaker 2: So I want you to think about this, Vegas. That's
Speaker 2: not my line, Vegas line. I didn't have my lines
Speaker 2: pulled up one and a half. We're sitting currently at four.
Speaker 2: This line has moved over at two and a half.
Speaker 2: It's at four across the four now, juice the four
Speaker 2: minus one fifteen on average, dude. So we've seen these
Speaker 2: two teams do what they do and yet now one
Speaker 2: and a half has become four. Somehow Kansas City has
Speaker 2: improved two and a half points, even though right now
Speaker 2: along horner of the season is today they're not even
Speaker 2: in the fucking playoffs.
Speaker 4: I know, well, and that's why you play seventeen bo
Speaker 4: see if it's because like it's not, we don't stop
Speaker 4: after nine games. So stop this whole this whole lot
Speaker 4: like the Cats out of the back at this point,
Speaker 4: like like even me a bon Knicks supporter, and uh,
Speaker 4: the guy saying be patient, be patient, be patient. Bonnick
Speaker 4: struggled in this first year. Early came on at the
Speaker 4: at the end of the year. Dude, this is this
Speaker 4: is a travesty. This is I mean, we just talked
Speaker 4: about how bad Justin Fields is, Like Bonicks isn't that bad,
Speaker 4: but he's fucking pretty fucking bad. Like it's it's nobody's
Speaker 4: it's so bad that Sean Payton, who is a great,
Speaker 4: great offensive line And that's that's the biggest thing to me,
Speaker 4: is is you is you have you got you you got?
Speaker 4: You got the lottery ticket. Yeah, you got the lottery ticket.
Speaker 4: You got like Mahomes got with Andy Reid. When you're
Speaker 4: a quarterback that gets drafted by an offensive guru and
Speaker 4: then you suck you. I'm sorry, I can't. I can't
Speaker 4: roll with this anymore. And the fact that Denver's eight
Speaker 4: and two, they're the biggest fraudulent the aid and to
Speaker 4: eight and two, and their ATS record explain their ATS
Speaker 4: record explains it all. They're four and six ats. That
Speaker 4: is a that's a complete opposite that that should not be,
Speaker 4: that that dispersed. Look this line at four, three and
Speaker 4: a half, four, whatever it's at, I should be in
Speaker 4: in my in my past, I would be slamming Denver here,
Speaker 4: slamming Denver, not even thinking fucking twice, pounding it in there.
Speaker 4: I can't do it. I can And the thing is
Speaker 4: on the other side. For for years now, I've been saying,
Speaker 4: you can't take you can't take Mahomes over three points
Speaker 4: as a favorite. That's not his sweet spot. So once again,
Speaker 4: the theme of the week tug of war torn both ways.
Speaker 4: I can make arguments for both sides. So this is
Speaker 4: gonna be a tough week for me again picking games.
Speaker 2: In this position. We're not used to seeing lamar Ben
Speaker 2: three and six. We're not used to seeing Homes out
Speaker 2: of the playoffs.
Speaker 4: That's that's true, So there's no there's so they should
Speaker 4: now I'm assuming because I because we've been doing this
Speaker 4: for so long, you're gonna have some nice off the
Speaker 4: buye type stuff with with any Reid and in Kansas
Speaker 4: City situationally coming off to buy. But okay, last point,
Speaker 4: I'll thought to you, Patrick artan missing for the Denver
Speaker 4: Broncos that hasn't had a chance to affect Denver as
Speaker 4: far as far as the win call them yet this game,
Speaker 4: this will be the game they're gonna feel that effect
Speaker 4: of of I can startan missing because the speed of
Speaker 4: the uh of Kansas City's weapons over the top is
Speaker 4: finally going to be felt. And in a tug of
Speaker 4: war situation where I can't really decide, I'm going to
Speaker 4: lean towards the Hall of Famer and the next the
Speaker 4: baby goat in my homes and I'm gonna fade the
Speaker 4: bow knicks. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing
Speaker 4: when I'm when I'm playing quarterback, like just until I
Speaker 4: see it, I just can't do it. And I think
Speaker 4: that a Sintnet eight and two, I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 4: at all if this team finishes like a ten and
Speaker 4: six or two, ten and seven has a nice little
Speaker 4: late season collapse, still makes the playoffs first round exit,
Speaker 4: and then we got questions in the off season about
Speaker 4: bo Nicks in his future. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't be torn on this one at all. I
Speaker 2: should just be slamming Denver, powering Denver Denver.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've.
Speaker 2: Bo Nix is half a point of the BBG against
Speaker 2: the Kansas defense, which, by the way, since Week seven
Speaker 2: is the ninth best success rate defense in the league. However,
Speaker 2: Denver is still number four. They've been top five all year.
Speaker 2: There's been no slippage in Denver. And for that reason,
Speaker 2: Mahomes loses a point and a half of the BVG
Speaker 2: and more important than me, they lose a point and
Speaker 2: a half running the ball against this defense. I don't
Speaker 2: know how can't other than Patrick Mahomes, which that's Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 2: So that's how how do they score more than twenty
Speaker 2: points against this defense? I mean, other than the Bodicks
Speaker 2: throwing the ball away, which he absolutely can and he might.
Speaker 2: But the total of this one should tell you. Everything's
Speaker 2: forty four and a half. I've even got it going
Speaker 2: under that. I don't I don't know how we get there,
Speaker 2: and if you look at the I don't have the
Speaker 2: Andy ree byde thing has been slipping of late. But
Speaker 2: if you just look at teams off of bye away
Speaker 2: Favorite since twenty twenty one, thirteen and sixteen ats forty
Speaker 2: four point eight percent. Not a huge you know margin there,
Speaker 2: but it's on a lot of minus four point two,
Speaker 2: which is exactly where sitting now. Twenty and eleven straight
Speaker 2: up winning about four point eight points a game, sixty
Speaker 2: four point that's a little bit below average favorite usually wins.
Speaker 4: In this league.
Speaker 2: But the the Broncos are going onto the buy and
Speaker 2: if you're on the buy at home as a dog,
Speaker 2: that is the spot eighteen fourteen and one fifty six
Speaker 2: average you guessed it four, which is exactly where we're
Speaker 2: sitting here now now.
Speaker 4: Dobbins the Dolveins injury and likely out for the year.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it that one's kind of there's some
Speaker 4: mixed mixed interest in it, but that's so huge, Like
Speaker 4: he's been a huge part of their all.
Speaker 2: Harvey not is he not?
Speaker 4: He has not? I swear go down the list.
Speaker 2: R J.
Speaker 4: Harvey underwhelming, uh Ingram everan Ingram the tight end they
Speaker 4: brought in underwhelming, like there's Courtland Sutland at times like
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't think Sean Payton's gonna get
Speaker 4: a pass on this, And maybe it's all just Bonix.
Speaker 4: They could just be the quarterback suck. I mean yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I guess history would say that because or
Speaker 4: or maybe well, we know Evan Ingram is a good
Speaker 4: tight end because we saw him at Jacksonville and at
Speaker 4: New York, so we know he's good. But for whatever reason,
Speaker 4: this this goulash of offense that that Sean Payne has
Speaker 4: mixed up, it's soured and it's poisoned by the quarterback
Speaker 4: being so bad. So it's just not average.
Speaker 2: Is like four yards, I mean, it's kind of easy
Speaker 2: for a defense, you know what.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a great point because bo nixt Champagne is
Speaker 4: trying to take the top off the defense to open
Speaker 4: things up underneath, and every fucking time he throws it deep,
Speaker 4: he misses. He can't hit a deep He cannot hit
Speaker 4: a deep target to save his life. And you watched
Speaker 4: him more in college than I did off memory Auburn, Oregon.
Speaker 4: I remember just dropping dimes into streaking receivers down for
Speaker 4: I don't remember this ever being like a big problem
Speaker 4: for him in college. Now I know it's a completely
Speaker 4: different situation, but like, what in the fuck is this
Speaker 4: where he can't every time he drows back and he
Speaker 4: winds up with those deals. I know it's an incomplete
Speaker 4: pass Oregon.
Speaker 2: We saw the only game will do the same thing
Speaker 2: under the same offense Oregon.
Speaker 4: So yeah, but he's way he's a way better talent
Speaker 4: than than don't I know.
Speaker 2: But my point is like that's that's the reason why
Speaker 2: that doesn't translate because that red Oregon offense. Just that
Speaker 2: tells you how bad Oregon's quarterback is this year, by
Speaker 2: the way, that that they fucking can't function offense like
Speaker 2: that kid fucking sucks.
Speaker 4: So where where are you landing on this one? Which?
Speaker 4: Which way are you getting landing on?
Speaker 2: I mean, I can I can only bet Depp, I
Speaker 2: can only.
Speaker 4: Bet Okay, I don't you're you're reluctantly betting Denver and
Speaker 4: I'm reluctantly betting Kansas City. This is a stay away game,
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, more likely than not. All right, let's move on
Speaker 2: to the Oh it's the Monday night. No, sorry, this
Speaker 2: is a Sunday night. Football game. I got ahead of myself.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, it's those goddamn Philadelphia Eagles posting those Detroit Lions. Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about a fucking slaby knocker brewing. We got
Speaker 2: two and a half points, is what we're sitting that juice,
Speaker 2: however juiced. So I expect this to go to three.
Speaker 2: And actually Circa just popped a three at even So
Speaker 2: money coming in on Philly, long wan when you got
Speaker 2: on your.
Speaker 4: Lions, Well, they're not gonna be my lines in this
Speaker 4: game because I'm on Philly too. I'm I'm on that
Speaker 4: Philly side of this thing. And for several reasons. Number one,
Speaker 4: well let's let's let's go big picture. First, We've talked
Speaker 4: about in the past with Detroit, you have to have
Speaker 4: a really good reason too bad against his team. There
Speaker 4: are seventy percent cover team under Dan Campbell and Jared Golf.
Speaker 4: That combination has been just it's just money. It's it's
Speaker 4: like it's like printing money. So you got a really
Speaker 4: good reason, So automatically I'm going up against it. When
Speaker 4: I'm saying I'm I'm taking the Philadelphia Eagles. Just a
Speaker 4: couple of stats Golf twenty five and eight ats at night.
Speaker 4: This is one of his sweet spots. But he's on
Speaker 4: the road, and he's outdoors on the road. And we
Speaker 4: just saw him last week go outdoors on the road
Speaker 4: against the Dead Skins. This is a different animal going
Speaker 4: on the road, uh at night.
Speaker 2: Against I told you all last week the Pod he's
Speaker 2: gonna have the best games this season. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: tell you that on this one.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna. I know you're not gonna before you
Speaker 4: even say, I know you're not going to and and
Speaker 4: and that Philly Devens is getting better now. They're with
Speaker 4: the kind of under the radar moves that they always make.
Speaker 4: They now have that depth of rotation pass rushers, which
Speaker 4: is which is what they do when they're when they're
Speaker 4: winning super Bowls and they're there, whether they're beating Brady
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl or they're beating Mahomes in a
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, it's because they have a plethora of pass
Speaker 4: rushers that they can just rotate in and keep fresh.
Speaker 4: And they made that trade for Jalen Phillips from Miami.
Speaker 2: Would you say I have Ale?
Speaker 4: That's a great call by That's a great But that's
Speaker 4: what they do, and they and they've they've built it
Speaker 4: back up to where they now now they do have
Speaker 4: a pta of pass rushers to throw at the opposing
Speaker 4: at the opposing quarterback. So this is gonna be And
Speaker 4: we saw Dan Campbell calling offense last week. He took
Speaker 4: over offensive play calling. Uh dudes, And that's cool for
Speaker 4: one game. I love that. That's cool that you can
Speaker 4: be like, look, man, I'm buying kneecaps, I'm buying I'm
Speaker 4: an Applebee's, fucking like all this all you can eat
Speaker 4: at Applebee's. I'm calling all the plays. I'm Dan the man.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna he ain't an offensive coordinator like this. That's
Speaker 4: there's a sign of issues there if he's having to
Speaker 4: do that. And now you're going to get a really
Speaker 4: good defense in a spot where Jared Golf I don't
Speaker 4: think it's gonna it's gonna do well. Now mentioned to
Speaker 4: see how the running game matchup is that you'll that
Speaker 4: you'll tell us about, because if this is a neutral
Speaker 4: or even bad spot running the game, this is a
Speaker 4: smash spot for Philly for me, and I will definitely
Speaker 4: have them in in some sort of and some picks,
Speaker 4: but I'm on Philly. I don't want to go too long.
Speaker 4: I'm on Philly.
Speaker 2: I just prison to the numbers or year that you're
Speaker 2: talking about the defense improving list some moves. So if
Speaker 2: you looked at the first six weeks, they were twentieth
Speaker 2: and success rate, he looks in week seven they're up
Speaker 2: to sixteenth. So that's a pretty good move in basically
Speaker 2: three weeks that they've played. So I like that trending up. Now,
Speaker 2: Detroit's been We've talked about Detroit. It's really been the
Speaker 2: defense carrying this team all season long. For the power Rings,
Speaker 2: it's no call. It's a great number. V two does
Speaker 2: have Detroit forty six and a half. Again, I got
Speaker 2: it going slightly under. It does grade out to Detroit
Speaker 2: winning this game twenty four to twenty one, but it's
Speaker 2: not a good matchup for e. They quarterback, however, hurts
Speaker 2: and lose half a point. Golf is a full point.
Speaker 2: Both running games great out his flat, So you.
Speaker 4: Know that's good enough. That's good enough.
Speaker 2: But if you look at the production, though, Detroit is
Speaker 2: the better running team, so that's why they grade out
Speaker 2: to win the game because their running game is just
Speaker 2: far superior to Phillies this year.
Speaker 4: So So is it consensus three? Is it we or
Speaker 4: can you still get too and a half? Because like
Speaker 4: in a low scoring game that we think this is
Speaker 4: gonna be a low scoring game like that, that's there's plenty,
Speaker 4: Okay that that hook is huge. That that's a monster
Speaker 4: game like we saw last week ten to seven against
Speaker 4: Green Bay last week. You gotta get it under three
Speaker 4: if if you want Philly, you.
Speaker 2: Just have to. Yeah, I've got Philly having more success
Speaker 2: this week on offense. Gotta score twenty one points. Last
Speaker 2: week got him scoring sixteen, is what I said. They
Speaker 2: only scored ten. Look, man, if Philly wants to be
Speaker 2: a real contender this year, this offense is broke. I've
Speaker 2: been talking about it for a while. Jail Hurst has
Speaker 2: not been good this year. He wasn't really good last year,
Speaker 2: but the Barkley thing covered all that up.
Speaker 4: Here we go with this bullshit. I'm way too many,
Speaker 4: I'm way too many beers in and this is like
Speaker 4: the I'm not gonna stand for this Jalen Hurst. I
Speaker 4: swear to God, Like, how long do you have to
Speaker 4: see him just fucking win all the time?
Speaker 2: He wins?
Speaker 4: Stop saying he's not good. He's a good quarterback, damn
Speaker 4: near great quarterback.
Speaker 2: That's a hard stretch for me right there.
Speaker 4: Now, Me, if you like winning, you love them like
Speaker 4: and you like you like winning bets and winning games
Speaker 4: and going to super Bowls, you love them. You just
Speaker 4: fucking love him.
Speaker 2: Well, I can't argue that he did just win the
Speaker 2: super Bowl.
Speaker 4: He's the Troy Man. I mentioned this a couple of pockets.
Speaker 4: He's literally the new age Troy Aigman, where he's never
Speaker 4: gonna give respect for his numbers and it's always gonna
Speaker 4: be excuses like well, I got to remember with Aman
Speaker 4: as well, it's just all that running game. All he
Speaker 4: doesn't hand off the fucking Troy or Emmitt Smith and
Speaker 4: and they just they played great defense.
Speaker 2: His is just wow. All that's actually a great comp
Speaker 2: because if you looked at Aigman's best season, it was
Speaker 2: literally his sixteen playoff games. Those were his best numbers.
Speaker 4: Right, and that was his best season and hurts the
Speaker 4: same thing.
Speaker 2: Hurts the same thing. So it's great. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: argue with about it. Look, I mean, I think if
Speaker 2: my problem with Detroit here is backing them when I
Speaker 2: don't have the confidence that run in which it should
Speaker 2: be fine, should be what they do. But with golf
Speaker 2: not grading out, well, I mean again, you're you basically
Speaker 2: have two even teams at this point. Detroit the better team,
Speaker 2: but like now they're on the road, there are outside
Speaker 2: and I don't have any advantage.
Speaker 4: Did you say Detroit is the better team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're still the better team. They're much better defense,
Speaker 2: much better.
Speaker 4: Detroit is the better defense.
Speaker 2: Yes, still still the still better defense. If you look
Speaker 2: over the last since weeks seven, Detroit is seventh, Philly
Speaker 2: is sixteenth. Yeah, dude, Detroit is fucking fourth in DBOA
Speaker 2: and Philly is where the fuck is Philly? We're not
Speaker 2: that far down Philly's seventh. Yeah, Detroit is slightly better team.
Speaker 2: So again that speaks to word this numbers at So
Speaker 2: I mean, if you take you from that perspective, we
Speaker 2: should be slamming Detroit here. But again, the spot like
Speaker 2: you talked about, I don't know. I mean, I can
Speaker 2: see this with going either way. This is a I
Speaker 2: just want to watch this game and see how it
Speaker 2: plays out. But I never say Detroit, but the power
Speaker 2: ranking is a no coal And I'm not My power
Speaker 2: rings has been so good this year and I've just
Speaker 2: not followed him like an idiot. So I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: bet it just because it is a good number. We'll
Speaker 2: see how it plays out. I think we're gonna we're
Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna find out a lot about this new
Speaker 2: Detroit offense and can it go on the road and
Speaker 2: win again, win a grind game like I think this
Speaker 2: one's gonna be.
Speaker 4: We'll find out.
Speaker 2: We'll find out, all right. Now, we're on the Monday,
Speaker 2: not football. It is my loss, Vegas raid us hosting
Speaker 2: those Dallas Cowboys. This one has taken some money on
Speaker 2: the cow side. I don't think it's it. Oh the
Speaker 2: money is switching around now, switching around. So it's three
Speaker 2: and a half. It was straighted towards four. Now we're
Speaker 2: turning back towards three. West gates actually just popping through.
Speaker 2: Oh so did the circuits? Who? So yeah, if you
Speaker 2: like the Raiders, grab him now whose three and a
Speaker 2: half are disuppearing? So what do you got on this?
Speaker 4: One? Man? Another? Another one I'm torn on And the
Speaker 4: only reason I'm torn on it is because I don't
Speaker 4: know how to handicap the the additions of the Dallas
Speaker 4: Cowboys on players on defense. How do you, how do
Speaker 4: you handicap possibly four new starters on defense from what
Speaker 4: they had before the buy overshow might be back starting
Speaker 4: the rookie.
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's gonna play. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think you have a for a full four new Yeah,
Speaker 2: So like what do I mean how do you do that?
Speaker 4: So, like I think a suit let's just say that
Speaker 4: those are like a flat a flat return on investment,
Speaker 4: which I don't think they're gonna be. I think they're
Speaker 4: gonna be actually pretty fucking good addition to the defense
Speaker 4: that's been horrible. So like, how's how's it not going
Speaker 4: to be more than just a flat addition on defense?
Speaker 4: If it if it is flat or less than flat,
Speaker 4: then this is a smash spot for Vegas for me.
Speaker 4: Dallas on the road as a favorite of over three,
Speaker 4: that's not been a good spot for them this year.
Speaker 4: They went to Carolina lost, and uh, I know I
Speaker 4: got more I know I got more hold on pump
Speaker 4: schedule now because because there's been several spots where they've
Speaker 4: been on the road as a favorite and just it's
Speaker 4: a flat spot and they lose. Dallas at those are
Speaker 4: the giants they know, well, no, they they beat the
Speaker 4: Giants and that was at home, so they haven't played
Speaker 4: him on the road yet. They went to Chicago and
Speaker 4: that was close to a pick them game, but they
Speaker 4: got their doors blown against Chicago. I mentioned that the
Speaker 4: Carolina game, went went there as as favorites and lost.
Speaker 4: They went to Denver and now of course their dogs there,
Speaker 4: that's the way better team. But then we just saw
Speaker 4: them last week and I was at home, not on
Speaker 4: the road, but they were. They were favorites against the
Speaker 4: Cardinals and loss. So two weeks ago, I'm sorry, yeah,
Speaker 4: they had to buy so two weeks ago. So point being,
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do this because I don't
Speaker 4: know how these due players are gonna be on that
Speaker 4: Cowboys defense. And but this should be a Brock Brock
Speaker 4: Bowers smash spot and a Nashton Genty smash spot. But again,
Speaker 4: they're not using him the proper way this year, so
Speaker 4: I don't know what's gonna happen there with that. But
Speaker 4: long story short, I'm reluctantly gonna be on the on
Speaker 4: a forced bet on the Raiders at the three and
Speaker 4: a half at home, but I don't feel great about
Speaker 4: it because that if those defensive players come Mountain Ball.
Speaker 4: They should they should be. We know Dallas is gonna score,
Speaker 4: so it's all about what what the Cowboys defense can
Speaker 4: do to slow down the Raiders offense. So what do
Speaker 4: you got because I'm gonna reluctantly be on the Raiders. Yeah,
Speaker 4: fifteen and a half total. Fifteen and a half total,
Speaker 4: by the way, So the Vegas ain't buying into the
Speaker 4: to the defense for Cowboys certainly in this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Power Ray's got Vegas here, the VT's got Dallas.
Speaker 2: Fifty and half of these said of the total, I've
Speaker 2: got this my tie the week, Vegas twenty three to
Speaker 2: twenty three. So going under that total, this should be
Speaker 2: a great matchup for Gino gaining two points. Again, we'll
Speaker 2: see what the additions do. Here's why I really like
Speaker 2: Vegas is because this is not a great matchup for Dak.
Speaker 2: It's flat, which is not bad. I mean deck you
Speaker 2: know it's put up MVP numbers other than a couple
Speaker 2: of games, so you can't say it's a bad game
Speaker 2: for him. Jen t gains half a point, which is
Speaker 2: not Look, Buss team's gained at least a point. This
Speaker 2: is Dallas defensive frush defense he's only gaining half a point.
Speaker 2: You give me the additions that you just bring Quinn
Speaker 2: and Williams on defensive line, I'm gonna say that's probably
Speaker 2: flat at best. But ya Dallas running game, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean like because he had an advantage on what they had.
Speaker 2: So I'll take the advantage away and say that they
Speaker 2: still can't run the fucking ball, because even if you
Speaker 2: give Vegas half a point of the running game, they
Speaker 2: can't run the balls. No though, now, but Dallas, it's
Speaker 2: a flat great out for them with their offense on
Speaker 2: running the ball. So, yes, they're a good offense, Yes
Speaker 2: they should score their points, but I don't see any
Speaker 2: advantage here for them as far as like that they're
Speaker 2: gonna go off or Dak's gonna have a great game,
Speaker 2: or they're gonna have a great game run the ball. Uh,
Speaker 2: look at our if we're talking about our breakdown success,
Speaker 2: straight and defense alwaysly neither one who's been worth a
Speaker 2: shitsu Dallas twenty seventh since Week seven, Raiders twenty second.
Speaker 2: So you're getting the slightly better defense, you're getting the
Speaker 2: tallest midget or the smallest turd, whatever you want to
Speaker 2: say of the two. But the other thing is the
Speaker 2: trend here, so off the away favorites twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: thirteen sixty to two ats forty four point eight per
Speaker 2: average line of Oh, what do you know? Four point
Speaker 2: two Now they are winning twenty to eleven straight up.
Speaker 2: Sixty four point five percent is a slightly low average.
Speaker 2: It's not the best part for the Cows. That three
Speaker 2: and a half the hook seems dangerous. It seems dangerous.
Speaker 2: I would have rather got four. I know there was
Speaker 2: a couple of the pops here and there, but those
Speaker 2: are gone. We're trending towards three. If you're gonna get
Speaker 2: the Raiders, you gotta get them now. I would not
Speaker 2: wait to get this to three. It doesn't seem like
Speaker 2: a game that the Cows lose necessarily in. There's in
Speaker 2: the spot that they're in especially and here's my last factor.
Speaker 2: Why it's really stopped me from hitting on the Raiders.
Speaker 2: And you say this is a factor, matter of factor whatever.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys just had a kid kill himself, right, and
Speaker 2: that's a galvanizing moment for a locker room. You know,
Speaker 2: we're in his decay.
Speaker 4: It's a gap, but it's a gap, and so that's
Speaker 4: usually you don't have a two week gap between that.
Speaker 2: It did just it just didn't just happen like this
Speaker 2: last you know, whatever weekend or whatever.
Speaker 4: You no, it happened. It happened last the week before
Speaker 4: the like Wednesday, like when they were going into the
Speaker 4: bye So yeah, a good week and a half. But
Speaker 4: by the time they by the time they play the game,
Speaker 4: So I don't know, it's hard to it's hard to fact.
Speaker 4: Like if it had been like they played that Sunday, yeah,
Speaker 4: I would have loved the cows there with this because
Speaker 4: they were going you know that, you know, they all
Speaker 4: go out of town or they all plan things, so
Speaker 4: like did it fuck up there? Did a fuck up
Speaker 4: their their terrification and now you gotta come back for
Speaker 4: a funeral like whatever. They I don't know, it seems
Speaker 4: more chaotic than just immediate like hey, let's go out.
Speaker 4: This just happened, you know, I don't know, we don't
Speaker 4: know that well.
Speaker 2: We have also seen though, these guys are really good
Speaker 2: at compartmentalizing things and like taking that honess in on
Speaker 2: the game day and say, hey, we're gonna go playing
Speaker 2: balls off for this kid, our teammate, and you know,
Speaker 2: what are the what are the Raiders playing for at
Speaker 2: this point, to try to win six games and win
Speaker 2: me some money. I hope that's what they're playing for,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I don't know what they're playing for,
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Man, It's and the Cowboys still
Speaker 2: having it in front of them. I mean, the whole
Speaker 2: division's falling apart. It's not like anybody in the NFC
Speaker 2: is separating. They're not out of it. They're not out
Speaker 2: of it. They gotta go win this one. They know
Speaker 2: that this is a game, they know that they have
Speaker 2: to win. Some max motivation there and the fact they
Speaker 2: got a galvanosing moment one of their players died. I
Speaker 2: can't everything all my numbers, everything say Raiders. I might
Speaker 2: still be on the Raiders. I might still do. You
Speaker 2: don't know. You don't know what I'm doing. But that's
Speaker 2: it is a factor. It's got to be a factor.
Speaker 4: They're not even as good as the Red Raiders from
Speaker 4: love It. There's this this disgrace all across the country.
Speaker 2: They're definitely not as good as the Texas, saying Red Raiders,
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Speaker 2: Four?
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