Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to Challenge the podcast all about
the Challenge as always, I am Brian sitting in his
bedroom with Snoopy on the TVs. Your children.
Speaker 2: Sweet see as my screen saver. I was gonna start
the episode there goes.
Speaker 1: I didn't really care. I just thought maybe your kids
were listening to you talk about watching Snoopy. It's a
weird combination. I just love Snoopy sitting in his home
with his real world life preserver actually on video for
one of the very first times. Zachie and I don't
know why I went out of order. I think it's
just the way the boxes are on my screen. Sitting
at home with the Champagne campaign doing some stained glass work.
Speaker 2: Double Champagne, you can get it. Carlin just gets it's
a store, just go to the.
Speaker 1: Store and throwing out her Minnesotan accent on the pre show.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, Carlan san Diego. It's making me think
that maybe I should move because oh.
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Speaker 2: Oh I should bring that shit up maybe who definitely
Tim with notes today.
Speaker 3: Tim has notes for the odd ones.
Speaker 1: Somebody explain what we're doing.
Speaker 2: I do. We're doing a flashback season kids as a
wait for season forty one to drop. You know, we
didn't want to leave you guys with no challenged content,
so let's review an old season.
Speaker 1: They've vaguely said coming this summer, and we don't know
what that means.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are quick episodes. Will be able to squeeze
in a quick little flashback season and Wolf, you've not
seen Fresh Meat one?
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Although I think they ruin and who ends up winning
this season? In season forty of.
Speaker 2: Got the challenge, so they do. Yeah, you should know
who wins this? Does that take enjoyment away from you?
We'll fear? Do you not care?
Speaker 1: Not for like this season? Like if it was a
brand new season, I'd be kind of pissed. But yeah, since, uh,
since I already know most of the people from seeing
them in different seasons and getting to see them, as
Cindy put it, when I pull it up and you
see TJ's face, like, oh my god, they're baby infants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like infants. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's wild how young they all are. Yeah, but it
is I do say I the reason I really enjoyed
doing this season is because hold On the Dog is
driving me nuts. Sorry, guys sparking in the background. I apologize,
there's lots going on today. No, it's so much fun
seeing the first time that we have seen a bunch
of these players, Like this is the first season that
West is in. Is the first season that just oh
so many people. It's great.
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, I love it for those same reasons.
It's like, you know, now, like the far far end
of the story, and so watching the intro is like
kind of a strange it's a strange feeling. But on
that same note, guys, usually we're reviewing current episodes and
so we don't have to do this part. But you know,
this episode originally aired on May twenty nine, two thousand
and six. It is not two thousand and six, So
we have to go back there in our minds, thank
you to May twenty ninth, two thousand and six. So
we'll do that by reviewing some of the pop culture
stuff that was happening at the time on the TV show,
on the TV show Top TV Shows two and a half, Men,
that piece of shit TV show you guys, remember that thing?
Speaker 1: Never watched it?
Speaker 2: Dum CSI Miami. The New Adventures of Old Christine and
King of Queens were the top draws on TV.
Speaker 1: King of Queens or Camp Queens.
Speaker 2: King of Queens Camp Queens.
Speaker 1: I was like, what is Camp Queens? If it was
drag queens going camping, that would be.
Speaker 3: That could be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: That would be number one the box office. The number
one movie was X Men Last Stand, followed by The
Da Vinci Code and Over the Hedge watched Over That
Top Top Jesus, I'm having trouble today, guys. Top songs
SOS by Rihann I'm I'm out of practice and Crazy
by NARLS. Barkley. Yeah, crazy and that'll do it. Are
we back in two thousand and six?
Speaker 1: Guys?
Speaker 3: In our minds, we're back two thousand and six. I've
just graduated. I graduated high school a year before this.
I am freshman in college.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, Carl, we should also throw
back to our personal histories at the time. So you
were a freshman in college. You're so fucking young. That
just drives me insane, because I was twenty six years
old and a full fucking adult. I was nineteen young
and just a baby, just a child.
Speaker 3: Depends on when in two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: May twenty ninth. So I was still eighteen, almost nineteen
a right, didn't you just have a birthday?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So you were days away nineteen. I was twenty seven, right, yes, yeah,
twenty No, I was twenty six at this time, getting
my life together. I'd had my No, you turned twenty
seven like a month or two later, I think, right,
am I doing my bath poorly?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You're only yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was ending my lost year period, and
I had my first big boy job, or as at
least close to getting my first big boy job at
the insurance company. That was when I got my shit together.
So yeah, that's where I was.
Speaker 1: Wolfe, Where were you twy and six?
Speaker 2: You're right next to me?
Speaker 1: I was, I mean, I was working at the TV stession.
I was you're into dating an old co host of
the show.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, yes, yeah, I was, yeah, six months
away or something from Eating Hill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Zach, where were you?
Speaker 2: What were you doing?
Speaker 4: I was up in Alaska living in a cult. Hello,
the Fellowship of Friends.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you were living with a cult. Are you serious?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Why is this after show information coming out right now? Why? Why? Why?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: The first time you.
Speaker 1: Mentioned this, what Zach? If I meet new people, the
first thing that says, Hi, my name is Zach. I
used to live in a cult. That's That's how quickly
I would tell people I used to live in a cult.
Speaker 2: Tell us about this cult the ship that you have
gone through in your life.
Speaker 3: Seriously, it's something new every fucking week. Come on, good lord.
Speaker 4: It was. Yeah. So they posed as a Christian home.
My mama advised me to go there because she worked
with two of the leaders of the house, and uh yeah.
When she got there, you know, I moved in and like,
oh yeah, you know, you can either work forty hours
in the house if you have a job, hey rent,
I think it's like two hundred and fifty. Once again,
they're like, oh no, you need a good job, hey rent,
and also do forty hours of work. Ye chapel. Every morning,
they have the handles on the doors backwards. They locked
us on the outside. They'd locked you in your room
if you misbehaved.
Speaker 2: Jesus no bathroom, Like no, how do you go to
the bathroom if you're locked in your eye.
Speaker 4: I never locked him. Other people.
Speaker 2: Zach was the good one. Jesus, how long.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised they didn't get locked him. I was like
a year, year and a half.
Speaker 2: Shit, how old were you? You're younger too? How old
are I was?
Speaker 4: Twenty two the time?
Speaker 2: Twenty two? Were the most people in the cult around
your age away?
Speaker 3: By this right now?
Speaker 2: And I have twenty thousand questions. I'm sorry, guess we're
not like, we can't talk about the challenge anymore. We
got to that fucking long.
Speaker 3: A challenge zack Slife Update coming podcast.
Speaker 4: I would say most of them were like thirty plus.
Speaker 2: Was there any like full full families that were there?
Speaker 4: There was, Yes, A lot of the full families were
actually like descendants of So we had three couples that
ran the place. We had like, uh, what's their names?
And Jan and I? Which you get the guy's name? No,
that Jan was the guy Jan and Janet?
Speaker 2: I think that's fucked up. That's fucked up.
Speaker 4: Peter was actually one of the kids.
Speaker 2: Uh, red red flag number one. Jan and Janet get
the fuck.
Speaker 3: Out of there.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 3: I do personally know pat and Patricia, so.
Speaker 2: Run run anyway.
Speaker 4: So they were like the bottom tailers, and then right
above them we had David Dolores, who like kind of
ran the house, you know, most of the time. And
above them was Wayne and Alice who would be there
for like two or three weeks and then they'd moved.
They have properties all of the country and so they
just kind of rotate houses and kind of like just
check in like how the house was driving.
Speaker 1: Was this just a sex colt? I mean that I
can be like, all right, I can see how you
get sucked into that.
Speaker 4: No, it's just a Christian cult. Like so and my
mom were you?
Speaker 2: I was just so dismissed. It was just a Christian cult.
Speaker 3: Guys in the same house, Like was this that that
place where like the whole town in Alaska is in
one single day.
Speaker 4: It wasn't that place, but it was a giant house
like out in the middle of the woods. There's probably
like thirty to forty bedrooms in the house was like
a big, like four story out.
Speaker 2: What the fuck are you serious?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And the guy is the guy the guy that owned
multiple properties? Does he own was it multiple branches of
the cult?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: There cults. So there's this cult had like several like
locations to the cult is the Colt still Are they
still around?
Speaker 4: They are?
Speaker 2: Holy fuck, dude.
Speaker 3: I'm so fucking blown away right now.
Speaker 4: Yet they have a place up and I believe it's
a in Michigan. They have one in California. I can't remember.
We're all their locations. I think they got one down
in Texas.
Speaker 2: Jesus, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I was just waiting for Jack to be like yeah,
and then they started branding people and renamed themselves next
to him, and I was gonna be like, what the fuck.
Speaker 2: We don't have to talk about the challenge, but Zach
next episode, I need to know about the work that
they would make you do at the property to keep
that in mind, because I do want to know of
all things.
Speaker 4: I eventually ended up getting kicked out because I did
not listen well. So the final job broke the candles
back because I bought one of the kids that I
bought him some Pokemon cards and those are satanic. So
eventually they're like, no, we can't have you bringing satanic
Pokemon cards in the house.
Speaker 1: You got kicked out of a cold.
Speaker 2: Because a Pikachu.
Speaker 1: How is this not a true crime podcast?
Speaker 4: Listen? It built up like, I mean, we'll get into
it more in future episodes, but they would like slash
my tires and stuff because I'd leave the house without permission.
Holy smash out my my rear view lights or my lights.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. We've found our ongoing segments season sending
your social media stuff.
Speaker 3: Listeners. If any of you have questions for Zach about
the cult.
Speaker 2: That please please send them in to us.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, questions for Zachi's cult corner.
Speaker 2: Well, I think Zach is back in two thousand and
six in his mind are the rest of us. Also,
I don't know where I am.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's Too Tough six or another world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Zach Zach's mind has been thoroughly washed.
Speaker 2: All right, guys, Well, then let's transport in our minds
to Australia, where this season of the Challenge takes place.
We get some scenes of them all arriving at the
airport and including the fresh Meat people, who at this
point we have no idea who they are. We've never
seen him before. It's kind of weird, just like Rando an airport.
And also, guys, I don't know if it's just me,
but the first like this whole episode struck me as
just a weird feeling episode. It felt like a recap
episode or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I as I was watching it because I was
doing I was watching it while doing stuff in the studio,
and it was like, going, did I miss the first episode?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like, no, I am I watching the right one.
Speaker 2: It was weird. It was extremely fast paced and like
a lot of gaps in the game that were missing,
including like the tests that made the fresh meat people
do that ranked them on the thing. You only saw
a few little a few little cut scenes of them
actually doing these tests.
Speaker 4: All I needed to see was Casey doing the wall wall.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Casey forgot one of the all time best.
Speaker 3: Forgot how amazing those clips.
Speaker 1: Were, which Cindy responded after Casey's like, it's such a
problem jumping over these walls toward Sidney replied, I don't
think you had a problem jumping over them. I think
you had a problem just running right into it.
Speaker 2: I wonder if she ever got over the thing.
Speaker 3: No, she never actually like changed up her way to
get over them. She just kept running straight at it
and doing the same thing over and over again, and
it clearly it was not working. Try something new, but like,
this is one of the things when I was watching
this episode, I was like, this feels like something. If
it were in a current season, this one episode would
be would have been three.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it would have been moved very slowly because
yet a lot of these people this is our first
time seeing him, people like Evan and Dim and Kenny Ryan,
and really they have a quick little talking head that's like,
I'm gonna do well at this game, and then it
moves on and you know, we know them because we've
seen all the other seasons, but watching this for the
first time, it was sort of it must feel like,
who the fuck are all these people and what's going
on this one?
Speaker 1: I had a whole episode of how they chose each
individual to be a fresh self contestant. They would have seen, yeah,
they would There would have been build up to like, oh,
how do you think you're going to do? And then
we're gonna have to show the Zoom meetings where the
producer tells them you're going to be on this season
of the Challenge and they'd be like, what are you serious?
Speaker 2: Yep, all that shit, we don't have any of that stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we would have seen some of the audition tapes.
We were like, there would have been a bunch of
backstory we would have gotten. You know, this is their
their audition tapes. Wouldn't just be them in front of
the camera like in their living room audition tape. It
would have been a hey, so this is this is me,
and this is what I do on a daily basis,
and this is the town that I live in, this
is my family and friends, and this is why I'd
be such a great person. We would have seen all
of that, yep.
Speaker 2: But instead we just get TJ standing in a warehouse
in front of all of the challengers and he reveals
the game. This is a fresh meat game, so he
got the old returning players. They get paired up with
a fresh meat player. So some people thought it was
against the fresh meat. It's not. Is it a team
It is a team game. And the vets are chosen
randomly to pick the fresh meet who have gone through
an obstacle course of some variety and been ranked onlike
their skills and then so you know, whatever skills they'
ranked on. They can then pick the best possible player.
Danny goes first and he picks Evelyn Choice Great Choice,
and great choice.
Speaker 1: We don't really get to see this in this season spoiler.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that at the end of
this episode. But I guess whenever, whenever she leaves spoiler,
Coral's next. She picks Evan again, great pick. I'll just
go through the rest of this list really quick. It's
Terrella and Neviv, Tanya and Johnny, Theo and Shonda, Tina
and Kenny, Wes and Casey, Derek and d m Katie
and Eric, Shane and Lynnette, Melinda and Ryan, and he
reveals the first place team gets two hundred fifty thousand dollars. Now,
I didn't run this through like one of those inflation
calculators and shit, but like, they haven't increased the rewards much, right,
wasn't last season three hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 1: Last season of All Stars?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Also was.
Speaker 3: I think they're up in a million dollars for but
it's like split in multiple different ways for the actual
show because like, well the millionaire Mitchell got a million dollars.
Speaker 2: But they went way up to a million and then
they I think they brought it back down.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't really know where they're at, but yeah, it's
in comparison, And we've had this conversation a few times
where like, in comparison to other competition shows like Survivor
or Big Brother, the Challenge definitely does not have the
winner budget that other shows do.
Speaker 4: I just looked it up with inflation, that'd be about
just under four hundred thousand in today's Okay, And what.
Speaker 2: Was the what was the cash prize for? I guess
the last season was forty That was probably a big one.
What was the cash prize for like thirty nine? Was
that a million? The Battle for New Champion?
Speaker 4: I think so, let's look, I don't think it's that high.
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't matter. We get into the new like
the video game intro, which is kind of a I
don't know, these were cheesy intros, but I like these
weird intros of this era. Do you guys like these
where they're sort of like performing and shit, I kind.
Speaker 3: Of I like them because they're the throwback, Like it
was nice to be able to see who all the
players were, but it when you're watching multiple episodes in
a row.
Speaker 2: Super cheese.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was super cheese, And it was like, Okay,
I've seen this four times already today, Like I don't
want to see it again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do kind of miss them these days. It
just says like the challenge for three seconds, then it
fades off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's like lost, You like lost?
Speaker 2: Yeah, loss is a different that's a different thing. Zach,
did you get that number?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm trying to figure out the exact Knaba
says that the winner got their share of half a million,
trying to forgre out how much that showed.
Speaker 2: So in the same ballpark anyway. Yeah, And I wonder
when when, because challenge used to be like, oh, thirty
thousand dollars, forty thousand this I mean, I guess My
point is I was a little surprised at its two
unred and fifty. That seemed like a lot to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially for back then. Like back then they were
still doing it was the challenge. Winners were still getting
things like forty thousand dollars. They get a bunch of
prizes along the way, too, but it's like, oh, you
you get fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: We get the typical scenes of them arriving at the house,
running through, picking their bedrooms, but this house is fucking
tiny compared to the houses that they're usually at.
Speaker 3: We've seen in Previo in later seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, this is just like the nicest, nicest house
that you could find on Airbnb and just book it.
Speaker 4: So Manuel got a quarter of a million, So same
as the Winter fresh Meet did, just you know, much
less because of inflation. Yeah crazy, Also same Oregon to
the house. Just the people picking. Since we're in two
thousand and six, I'm fully back in my West hating moments, right,
Why why did Wes pick Casey? Like he went up
there and said, you are the worst. I have other options,
I'm gonna choose you anyway, because this is.
Speaker 3: An asshole like this. It's one of those I will
I love Wes in later seasons. This season, though, God damn,
I forgot how much of a fucking dick he is.
Speaker 2: He's a total price.
Speaker 3: This was his first season the Challenge, Like they had
just finished Real World Austin, which is why the entire
fucking Austin cast was there, and he he had not
softened at all. At this point in time. He was
the height of I'm mister big man on campus. I
was just on the Real World. Everybody fucking loves me.
I'm an asshole. And I know that I'm gonna be
I'm smarter and everybody. I'm better than everybody. And goddamn
some of the shit that he says in this season,
like right off the bat isn't whoa dude, You're coming
out of here real hot? Like good lord.
Speaker 2: Well and Zach if I, I guess I didn't make
note of this as it was happening, but I'm looking
at the list of people that picked and even though
West is sort of in halfway through the list of people,
he is the second to last, I guess, third to
last of the men to pick ye. So his only
choices were Casey, DM and Lynette.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like Diam was a pretty good competitor, and
was also a pretty good competitor, Like I agree with Zach.
I don't know why the fuck he shows Casey.
Speaker 2: So I have my theory is just he wanted somebody
that was a little easier to control number one and
number two. I think he likes looking like a superhero
and so part of him is sort of like, if
I can take a weaker girl and win with her,
like that makes me look better. He did that with Mandy.
Remember when he tried to like Strap Mandy to his
back and like, you know, superhero fly over the fucking thing,
and he ended up looking like an idiot. Yeah, that's
my theory on why West did that.
Speaker 4: I think so. I think as yeah, he thought like
I'm so good I could carry whoever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is just that makes sense. I didn't even
I completely forgot about Mandy. Yeah, and then is Mandy
had a very similar look to Casey too, Like they
were both these tiny little blondes. They were both not
very good at what they were doing. Like both kind
of let him run the show.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's what he likes. He likes
having a little power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 2: But speaking of Wes and everybody hating Wes, he walks
around to the rest of the house and just says, hey, guys,
we are having an intimacy problem, referring to him and
Johanna and Danny and Melinda, who, as you said, Carlin,
are hot off their Austin season and both coupled up.
They want the room with four bets and so that
was supposed to be a fresh meat room. They kicked
the fresh meat people out. They just took it as
their own. Nobody really fought them on it, but I
did like kind of make them a target in this
episode and later episodes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is just the next thing after, you know,
after picking Casey to then go in there like brand new.
You know, we know at this point in the show
newbies get targeted early. It's nothing new but to go
in and make such a focus on yourself right away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Wes is still not politically. I don't think
he would pull this move these days. I think this
really rubbed a lot people the wrong way. I think
so old school guys. We got a clue from TJO.
Speaker 1: I was waiting for the sidekicking.
Speaker 2: Who No, it's a psychic esque little you know, pre
smartphone mobile device though. Yeah, it was brought back fond
memories of that time.
Speaker 1: The face of it slid up. Yes, those are so
cool still though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well if you do, you remember my bad assam.
Everybody was super jealous of it because my screen would
flip around and you could do a selfie and actually
see yourself while doing a selfie.
Speaker 1: This is it.
Speaker 2: This is around that time, two thousand and six. Yeah,
everybody was like, whoa, it flips, Yeah, it fucking flipped.
It was cool. This hint just says be prepared to
stand tall, so you know, everybody's guessing what that could mean.
Weird vignettes of all of these partners talking about exile,
whether they're not scared, whatever. We see Wes being super
condescending to Casey, which was really funny at first and
then got super weird the longer it went on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you're not smart, you're not athletic, you're just
you're not worth anything in this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funny for a minute and then it's
like Wes, like, you gotta shut up.
Speaker 1: Nobody bullied each other during this period.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was definitely. I think he started it off
trying to be kind of like tongue in cheek, like, oh, well.
Speaker 4: You know you can.
Speaker 3: You can get it under the radar by just not
saying like, not really opening your mouth, not trying to
be better than all of these other women out there.
But yeah, you're right. The longer that when he first
started it, it was kind of like, oh, yeah, this is funny,
Like we all see the joke in it. It's like
you just, oh my god, dude, you're still going still going.
Speaker 2: Yeap coral throwing out a girl's going wild reference that
brought me back to two thousand and six. Man, miss
miss those videos.
Speaker 4: I gotta tell you to Evelyn of all people. Yeah,
before they flipped to Evelyn, I was like, oh, please
tell me this is to Tanya because that'll be so accurate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it was okay, Tim, maybe you or Zach
remember why why? And I can't remember when in this
episode happens, but Wes calls Tanya a slut just like,
without any provocation, there's no nothing, like I haven't seen
the show in so long. I do not remember why
that was the big thing. But he just, like straight
up in confessionals, with no prompting whatsoever, calls Tanya just
calls her slut straight up like I full whiplash, like
what did you just say?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Weird times?
Speaker 3: Why why why did he say that?
Speaker 2: I don't remember, well, Tanya, And we see it sort
of peppered throughout these episodes of Reviewing Today. People bully Tanya.
Tanya is always like sort of the outside woman, and
everybody kind of bullies her and mean girls her, and
they gang up against her like you see it every season.
I'm not ever sure why why that was, but it's
weird to me too, Yeah, like I.
Speaker 3: Remember them doing it, I just can't remember what the
catalyst was, Like, I can't remember if she hooked up
with them or what. I do not remember what that
catalyst was, and it's.
Speaker 1: Probably liked someone and that was enough for everybody to
I explained to Cindy. I didn't go into full detail,
especially with Kenny and Evan on the on the show,
but I was just like, I was like, nowadays, we
feel bad for Tanya because she obviously had some mental
shit going on. Yeah, she was not dealing with and
then they put her in a house with people that
just bully her and then give her a shit on
a booze and that was not a good combo.
Speaker 3: For her, No, it was not. It was this is
before the days of when they, you know, now, when
they have a little bit more help for these people
mental all that sort of thing, and they definitely did
not back then.
Speaker 4: Tanya does look like there's some Reddit talk from back
in the day that Tanya was hooking up with Mark
around like the Battle, which one.
Speaker 2: Well, I do think Tanya has hooked up with a
lot of these guys, and we see her cup with
with a guy this season, but it's sort of is
like these days, it's not a shameful thing, and in fact,
like some women are proud of it and like that,
you know. And now also who cares? But this was
nineteen years ago. We got to go back there, guys
in our minds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Derek also cooking up with her for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So they are on a janky elevator.
Jesus Christ, this elevator looks janky as fuck. That going
up this elevator should have been the challenge, but instead
the challenge is called stuck on Me. They are eighty
stories up in the air on a twenty five foot
balance beam, and the whole challenge, guys is walk to
the end of the beam, turn around, and walk back.
You can see how small, Yeah, you can see how
small these games used to be, you know, in terms
of like these days there'd be jumping and explosions and
a quiz out there, you know, all this shit, and
this is just kind of more simple.
Speaker 3: Yeah, these days it would have been walk out there
with your like we had. There was one a few
seasons ago where it was, you know, walk out on
this balance beam, but it was a you know, you
had to go out in a big giant's like rectangle,
but you were blindfolded and your partner behind you had
the VR goggles and could see what your face was facing.
And that was when Nanny and Turbo were team members,
like four or five years ago. So it added the
element of like, you can't see where you go. Yeah,
it's surprising just how little these games are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Durell was still freaked out. Those nice to see
some through currents. To Carla, looks great.
Speaker 4: Thanks.
Speaker 2: We've seen Drell be scared of heights for forever and
this was just a nice little throwback to Darrell still
being scared of heights. Other than that, guys, it's a
challenge where people just people walk and then they walk
some more, so I don't have a lot of notes
about this, and then they walk some more.
Speaker 3: But it was also you had to go out to
the end of this balance beam and do a full
three sixty, and the number of people who forgot that
they had to do the full three sixty was kind
of surprising. The guys, it's not hard to do a
three sixty. I don't know, maybe they're just also scared
that they forgot, but I think that's it.
Speaker 1: I did all usual when me and Cindy were watching,
did my usual, like I don't understand why people are scared,
and TV is not gonna let you die, and and
she's like, yeah, it's fine, but then you get up there.
But then towards the end of the run, THEO and
his partner at the end kind of fall off to
the side and they literally went down like six inches,
and I'm like, see, like, you're not gonna fall like
that far, you know. I just like, we're taking big strides,
big strides out, big strides back. Let's do it.
Speaker 4: Ww Also, wouldn't let owen Hart Oh wait it happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still yeah, it still bring bad juju. Yeah,
it's still in mofie. The only note I have here
is Casey saying I'm gonna pee on myself. I can
feel it. Casey. I just love this. I just love
this girl. She just doesn't take yourself seriously. She's just
having fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was really happy to see her back in the
All Star seasons like last season or two, So it
was fun to like see her nowadays in comparison to
what she was back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's very fun.
Speaker 4: Thinking the big thing that stuff to me from this
John Jamars just once they did the three sixty, just
how like Drell basically picked a vive up and ran
back over. He was like ready to be off that thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were a few people who were like that.
It also cracked me up because watching it and saying, okay,
so you know that Derell is going to be on
the backside, so he's never actually looking out over things
until they get to the three sixty. Like some of
the people that are really scared of heights, they did
a good job like putting them in the back versus
putting them in the front.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would say he may have done on a
Johnny Banana's backpack and just hauled her back across the line.
Speaker 3: This is true.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't have everybody's times. But the worst players, no,
it doesn't or Tanya and Johnny. The best were Coral
and Evan. Yes, and Coral and Evan have to pick
the first exile team. They are determined to get an
Austin person out of there, so of course they pick
an Austin person and in this case it's Wes and Casey.
But we learned at this point they have a chance
to redeem themselves at the next challenge, so we'll see
how that goes.
Speaker 4: Eats babies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also interesting. I think this is the only season.
We're not the only season. This is the first season
I've seen a really long time that does two challenges
and then an elimination.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird it's a weird sort of pace
I think for the for what these are, so.
Speaker 4: You should do it all the time back in the
day because the second episode, you know, would always be
the life favorite challenge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is uh in big brother parlance. This
is a chance for them to get a veto.
Speaker 2: Gotcha in it and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's interesting.
Speaker 4: I don't know how it worked now with the longer
episodes and seasons, but I mean I would love to
see them kind of bring it back with the second
challenge where you know, you can save yourself.
Speaker 1: It's that's why we that's why we cut the seat,
cut the episodes down. We don't know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that they would be able to
do it in the in the current seasons though, because
that time that would normally be taken up these seasons
bye by this second challenge is taken up by drama
and information like us watching them back at the house
and fucking work out montages, So they would have to
cut a lot of that in order for us to
see a second challenge.
Speaker 1: That's why we go with the retro season. Just bring
an editor and be like, watch the watch fresh meat,
and now cut modern episodes down to that. Let's do it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's a lot good to these
older episodes, but also there's fart of me that when
I was watching the four them this point, it is
kind of annoyed. I'm like, I can't believe I got
wait like every two episodes to see an elimination.
Speaker 2: There's only forty minutes. Though, if you think about it, yea.
Speaker 3: It is in comparison to current seasons, it's one episode.
Speaker 1: Since we live in the future, you can watch them
all back to back.
Speaker 4: Yes, but if we went back to that, imagine having
to wait, you know, two weeks every every time to.
Speaker 2: Well, everyone have to go back there at our minds
will we only have to go back whichever?
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: What I thought was interesting is like Wes starts politicking immediately,
and I guess it's hard for me to go back
to the challenge. In my mind back in this time.
But this seemed new to me that Wes was immediately like,
we don't have the votes. Who else can I get
on my side? And he went for a Shane and Linette,
which ended up being a bad call, but like, you know,
he's given it a shot here. I don't remember people
being so blatant about it, but maybe I'm just misremembering.
And that's it for this episode.
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Speaker 1: This is a uh it's a sixteen episode. Yeah. See,
I think I don't know if that includes any reunions
or not if they did that back then, but I.
Speaker 4: Think they did because I know for sure today because
I remember a specific thing from the reunion this season.
Speaker 2: Me too, Zach, I wonder if we remember the same things.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're going to be doing multiple recording sessions
where we just plow through. So yeah, if you want
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over to Patreon.
Speaker 2: Access to Discord too, which just fun.
Speaker 4: You have our fantasy scor Is Carlin.
Speaker 2: Fantasy. We never got that game going, didn't we know?
We didn't. Theeter volunteered to set us up a game
and ship.
Speaker 3: I know I thought about doing something with him, but
I just I have not had the time.
Speaker 4: Honestly.
Speaker 1: We decided to do this in the last week.
Speaker 2: So that's a good point.
Speaker 3: We decided on the time to do this, like what yesterday,
day before, yeah, other things.
Speaker 1: Last night, two episodes today.
Speaker 3: Even though we are batching these, we do have the
chat open, so when we are doing the recordings, we
will let everybody know and you can come and be
part of these recordings like you would a normal season show.
Speaker 1: It's happened bring so many people in the chat room.
I've been able to read all the all the comments.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean maybe next week we will have or
next time we will have a whole bunch of questions
for Zach because I have a feeling it's probably going
to be three or four episodes before we have questions
for Zach from our listeners about this cult that he
was in.
Speaker 1: Leave your send us your questions on Patreon. Only patrons
get to ask questions, so head over sign up. Ask
Zach about the cult he used to be a part of.
Speaker 3: Fucking Wild Dude, which we literally.
Speaker 1: Just made happen in the past half hour.
Speaker 4: Jackie and Jan, that was their names, Jackie and Jan.
Speaker 3: You're reading the Wikipedia page for this place now.
Speaker 4: No, I just suddenly remember.
Speaker 1: That he's back it'd be a lot better if it
was jack A in Jam. I would totally join a
cult run by jack A.
Speaker 2: I don't know who Jackie is seven, not understanding that
reference at all.
Speaker 3: All right, well all of you?
Speaker 1: All right? Do we have anything else before we wrap up?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Not for episode one?
Speaker 1: Everybody, I said, head over to Patreon join the group.
You can get the first four episodes.
Speaker 4: Now do we have do we have an ending quote? Wolfe?
Speaker 1: I don't. Do you have one? Zach?
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: Tony is such a slat.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that does not need to be the
ending quote.
Speaker 4: I will have one for the fourth one, though, let
me go look it up.
Speaker 1: I don't have I didn't. I didn't capture any quotes
for this, so I was getting frustrated. I don't know
if anybody else had any problems watching this on Patreon Plus.
For some reason, mine kept freezing up on my TV
on Padi on Paramount Plus, so I had to watch
it on my phone and cast it to my TV
and the video would still like stutter every one while.
Speaker 3: Now I have Paramount Plus through an old friend of
mine who I don't actually talk to anymore. So I'm
just waiting for the day that she like kicks me
off of.
Speaker 2: Her paramount through us. Carlin, you have an account. I
see your name every time I every time I select
the account, your name is right there.
Speaker 3: Dude, Well, maybe I should actually look into ours, because
I'm pretty sure it's hers.
Speaker 2: Get it together, find something new every day? Jeez, I
tell you to new things, Carlyn. How about that?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: All right, Carlin? Carlin steals Patreon Plus.
Speaker 2: Access, but he keeps saying Patreon Plus get together, Bro paramounts.
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Speaker 2: Big O with you, Carlon San Diego, Bananas.
Speaker 1: And uh As. Carlin said, I steal Paramount Plus from
my old friend I don't talk to no more.
Speaker 3: He can't
Speaker 1: Ye