Speaker 1: And another headline, another fast, another christ is moving fast.
Speaker 2: They sell it like it's breaking through.
Speaker 3: Put it off, feels slightly used.
Speaker 4: Different faces, different sides, same old script.
Speaker 1: They running live.
Speaker 2: You scroll it down, you feel the way.
Speaker 5: Like you've seen this play before today.
Speaker 2: It's not the.
Speaker 4: Noise, it's how it flows, like some feeling ething. Same story,
Speaker 4: new name, different fire, same flame. You can feel it
Speaker 4: what it is.
Speaker 2: Like it's already written.
Speaker 4: It says't joy I saw on the screen.
Speaker 2: It's a bad out in between.
Speaker 1: You don't need.
Speaker 4: Them to explain. You can see it's the same story,
Speaker 4: new name, every ankle, every frame, every oblet sounds the same.
Speaker 4: They divided throw the lines keep.
Speaker 2: You locked in real time.
Speaker 4: But the crash, I get it aloud. You can see
Speaker 4: it in the crowd, something shifting out of you, and
Speaker 4: it's pulling you through. It's not a theory theory. It's
Speaker 4: not a gas again. It's the same man's side the man,
Speaker 4: same story, you name, different fires, same name.
Speaker 2: You can feel a wait.
Speaker 4: It like it's already been written. This isn't jiong screen.
Speaker 4: It's a bad between. You don't need them to explain.
Speaker 4: You can see it's the same sory no name.
Speaker 6: They don't God, they just move it s the language
Speaker 6: or package prove it.
Speaker 1: You will never verment to trace the line.
Speaker 2: But no, I see it every time.
Speaker 3: The exclaimer to the fair season Karen's out there? Oh
Speaker 3: dare you?
Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 3: interesting conversations, stretch our minds and grope.
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Speaker 5: Can you talk about extreme anowledge is a crime?
Speaker 2: We will guilty from the sun.
Speaker 4: They don't fear the questions, They fear the spot. So
Speaker 4: we steel the fire, not srue, just.
Speaker 2: To see through smalls.
Speaker 4: And they call it day frostink and they coracy, but
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Speaker 3: crazy day, I was talking to our guests kind of
Speaker 3: behind the scenes in the green room, I guess you
Speaker 3: could say, about all the crazy stuff going on. And
Speaker 3: I tend to stay in my little rabbit holes, so
Speaker 3: I don't watch the news and I'm not up to
Speaker 3: date on all this stuff. So all this stuff breaking
Speaker 3: out about Christian influencers and UFOs is all just kind
Speaker 3: of flooding into my feed and I'm like, my head's spinning.
Speaker 3: I've already been texting Alberino and Jamie Wilden, my guys,
Speaker 3: my head's spinning. Update me here. So I'm waiting to
Speaker 3: hear back from some people. But apparently I'm just behind,
Speaker 3: is what it is. I'm out of the no, I'm
Speaker 3: not in the cool crowd. Hey, guys, We've got a
Speaker 3: great show for you. Lined up. This is going to
Speaker 3: be a part two. I had this gentleman on last week,
Speaker 3: so he wanted to come on and do a three
Speaker 3: part series. So this is part two. So I'd like
Speaker 3: to welcome back to the show, mister Seth. Kicklighter, mister Seth.
Speaker 3: How are you doing today, sir?
Speaker 2: I am amazing, brother, thinking for asking. I'm fired up
Speaker 2: in a little bit, actually exhausted from a lot of
Speaker 2: pods this week. But that's a good thing, right.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. When I wrote my book, I was like,
Speaker 3: I could easily do you know, two or three interviews
Speaker 3: a day on Friday, Saturday, Sunday when I'm off my
Speaker 3: factory job, you know. And know I found out real
Speaker 3: quick after maybe a week of that, I was like,
Speaker 3: oh man, I've overdone myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a lot of work to be doing
Speaker 2: right now in a NonStop information flow that we have
Speaker 2: to from into our minds with a million other things.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's a constant battle, man, but Lord's
Speaker 2: got us protected, so we'll be eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, Well, before I picked your brain on the
Speaker 3: current events and then we kind of I want to
Speaker 3: slip into the subject matter at hand here, but maybe
Speaker 3: for those that's stumbled across this live or channel for
Speaker 3: the first time, didn't catch our first discussion. I definitely
Speaker 3: recommend you go back and check that one out, but
Speaker 3: just introduce yourself to those people who you are, what
Speaker 3: you do and your book. Brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my name is Seth kick Leider. I am a
Speaker 2: young man who is an author now. Spirit Realm Shenanigans
Speaker 2: is an unhinged rant exposing the psychic fabrications of discarnet
Speaker 2: Tweebs and nephitely Netwitz. And you know, I like to
Speaker 2: keep my book pretty goofy and entertaining along with dark
Speaker 2: and you know, very elaborate and complex. So check it
Speaker 2: out if you want the more nuanced conversation of what
Speaker 2: we're talking about today. If you want to find my
Speaker 2: book or any of my work, you can go to
Speaker 2: my link tree, which is linktree dot com slash Sethlahem
Speaker 2: Bethlehem with a Seth. If you want my social media,
Speaker 2: it's x that's where I get all crazy and theoretical
Speaker 2: about my crazy beliefs and Instagram they're both Sethlahem Sethlhem
Speaker 2: Underscore on Instagram and in those bios you will see
Speaker 2: my link tree, which connects to my book on pay hip.
Speaker 2: You can buy directly or on Amazon, and you can
Speaker 2: get on my audio book which is free completely on
Speaker 2: Spotify and YouTube and you can and there's funny voices
Speaker 2: for all the characters I'm quoting. It's a fun time.
Speaker 2: And you can watch on my podcast link there. You
Speaker 2: can find my playlist with all my bangers. My favorite
Speaker 2: content is linked. I like to be very detailed in there,
Speaker 2: so find me on there.
Speaker 3: Guys a seth if you could. Man, I got to
Speaker 3: speaking in the chat saying that you're vibe. He's pretty
Speaker 3: low and I'm looking on ice cream. I got you
Speaker 3: maxed on my end, but you're only going maybe halfway
Speaker 3: up the bar there.
Speaker 2: I can go up more, but let me know how
Speaker 2: I am right now, Johnness, I can take it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you come up some more, possibly it come
Speaker 3: up a little bit on the gauge.
Speaker 2: I still have room to go. I just didn't want
Speaker 2: to max out. If it's unsafe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just barely touching the yallow that that's the
Speaker 3: sweet spot. Okay, cool, awesome, nice well man, Before we
Speaker 3: get into the subject of the matter, because I know
Speaker 3: some people probably stumble across this thumbnails like, oh my God,
Speaker 3: I got very aggressive. What's going on here? What is
Speaker 3: your opinion? I have to bring it up with all
Speaker 3: the stuff going on h UFOs, the Christian influencers pulled
Speaker 3: into this, you know, kind of quote unquote secret meeting
Speaker 3: with They ain't mentioning, but I'm pretty sure it's Ted
Speaker 3: Burchett from Tennessee. All this stuff going on, what's your
Speaker 3: thoughts opinions? Man?
Speaker 2: I mean, I have complex views here, I think. For one, No,
Speaker 2: I don't trust the government plugs for this information. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying they're all nefarious, but if whoever they're getting
Speaker 2: their information from is and there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: of half truths in all disinformation out there. So it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of true stuff that we know
Speaker 2: and can validate or can assume, and then it's going
Speaker 2: to be poisoned in ten twenty percent or somewhere near
Speaker 2: there now, and the poison is the important part that
Speaker 2: we should be focusing on. Now. They're hanging out with
Speaker 2: these Christian pastors and people are saying, oh, well, they're
Speaker 2: going to tell us that you know the seed in here,
Speaker 2: and it's the age nastic kind of viewpoint, you know,
Speaker 2: to dismissing gods and in our creation, old Earth all
Speaker 2: that stuff that goes along with it, and I, yeah,
Speaker 2: I could see that happening. I also have a suspicion
Speaker 2: that there's going to be a mixture of things here.
Speaker 2: I think that the the administration is publicly Christian and
Speaker 2: using scripture and all these things. And you know, if
Speaker 2: anybody's the Antichrist, it could be Trump. Yeah absolutely. If not,
Speaker 2: he's the you know, John the Baptist for the guy.
Speaker 2: But this administration is not Christian in the inner literal
Speaker 2: way at all. But they want people to think that,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people don't believe it, but a
Speaker 2: lot of people do. So are they going to cater
Speaker 2: to a Christian narrative and go the alien demon route?
Speaker 2: Maybe there maybe the more literal you know, angels and
Speaker 2: demons that are in spaceships only, and they're like the
Speaker 2: Alberino route, which you know, I don't agree with a
Speaker 2: more of a meat suit guy myself for a lot
Speaker 2: of reasons. But I think they're going to potentially give
Speaker 2: out stories through different groups and say, oh no, it's
Speaker 2: the Christian validated version without the meatsuit theory, which is
Speaker 2: an important semantic difference, or they're going to give other
Speaker 2: people the more gnostic route, more new age gnostic information route.
Speaker 2: And I think it's going to be a battle of
Speaker 2: both sides, which it's already been, but I think government
Speaker 2: sources will be part of portraying both and it'll be
Speaker 2: different people infighting in the government saying no, it's actually this,
Speaker 2: and no, they're lying to you, And it's going to
Speaker 2: be confusion mass like chaos, magic mass, confusion, validation on
Speaker 2: both sides, and then attacks on both sides. I think
Speaker 2: Christians ultimately are gonna be hated for their views ultimately.
Speaker 2: And I think, if I can keep ranting for a
Speaker 2: moment on this, I think that the Jews, who apparently
Speaker 2: rule the world exclusively, you know, they don't like to
Speaker 2: use the word nefiline, but they say Jews. And you know,
Speaker 2: we can talk about the etom my idamine imposter part
Speaker 2: all day, but you know, they apparently rule the world.
Speaker 2: But the algorithms that have led the mass awakening to
Speaker 2: believe this have also been run by Jews, apparently, and
Speaker 2: they really want us to hate them right now. And
Speaker 2: it's like, well, why does the rulers of the world
Speaker 2: want us to know that Jews rule the world so
Speaker 2: badly and desperately that they're giving us reverse psychology esque
Speaker 2: intel leaks to make us come to these conclusions. It's
Speaker 2: because I think it's you know, the biblical thing of
Speaker 2: the Jews becoming more hated in the end times, and
Speaker 2: they're helping promote that because one day, I think, when
Speaker 2: the Aliens show up in the not too distant future,
Speaker 2: they're gonna have good cut bad cop. It's always a
Speaker 2: Galien dialectic. Have put you know, hero and villain and
Speaker 2: the bad and it might be a timeline war where
Speaker 2: the you know, sexy Nordics are the good guys, which
Speaker 2: is pre programmed in the lore, and the bad guys
Speaker 2: are the you know, Grays and Mantids, Reptilians, et cetera,
Speaker 2: who are grouped together or maybe multiple factions, but they're
Speaker 2: all bad guys and they're gonna say. I think when
Speaker 2: Gog and Magog happens and gods supernaturally supernaturally saves Israel
Speaker 2: in uh, you know, that could be pre tribulation or
Speaker 2: during but I believe it's pre and if that happens,
Speaker 2: which is geared up to happen in the near future.
Speaker 2: With the way the alliances are stacking up, I think,
Speaker 2: you know, aliens, bad aliens, bad Cop will take blame
Speaker 2: for God's supernatural hands saving them, and when that happens,
Speaker 2: people are gonna go, oh boy, does that mean the
Speaker 2: Aliens are using Jews as proxies to infiltrate our world?
Speaker 2: And that explains why they rule things because they have
Speaker 2: to give some great reveal, and that will be the reveal.
Speaker 2: I think that, Oh, it's them, and then we have
Speaker 2: to now attack Israel collectively. And that's what That's my
Speaker 2: summation of my mediocre understanding of end Time's lore, adding
Speaker 2: with conspiracies of aliens and the whole pre programmed narrative
Speaker 2: going on with good Cop, bad Cop Aliens, which I've
Speaker 2: read enough channeled lore and astral information to know what
Speaker 2: they're pre programming, and I believe that makes a lot
Speaker 2: of sense. And it's all a big sigh. Ops. So
Speaker 2: be careful about the mass awakening right now, because it's
Speaker 2: filtered in a very specific way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's something that honestly needs a hour and
Speaker 3: a half or two hour discussion. Oh yeah, to break
Speaker 3: all that stuff down. I just wanted to kind of
Speaker 3: get your ref opinion of.
Speaker 2: It, and I gave you a very crazy quick version no,
Speaker 2: and I'm.
Speaker 3: Still trying to form mine. I don't want to speak
Speaker 3: so boldly.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, screwing man, I'm just going crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, no, I mean, you're more informed on than I am.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm kind of lost on the current
Speaker 3: news and the loops of things. But I do know
Speaker 3: that if the government is telling you something, or even
Speaker 3: anybody of powers telling you something, there's there's always a motive.
Speaker 3: So I'm not you know, I'm not one of these
Speaker 3: guys that you know, there's a lot of people coming
Speaker 3: out and saying, you know, oh, all these pastors that
Speaker 3: they talked about, you know, are government shriels and they're
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Well a lot of them are apparently Zionists. So that's
Speaker 2: not ideal, and that makes sense with the narrative portraying.
Speaker 2: So they're using them as pundits potentially because of their
Speaker 2: Zionus views, and then they might give them some pro
Speaker 2: Christian narrative to dispel, and then they're going to be like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: the Jews controlled that narrative and that's actually the proxy
Speaker 2: of the aliens, and that yeah, I'm getting ahead of
Speaker 2: myself a little bit. But that's kind of the narrative
Speaker 2: I could see forming around that is it's it's intentionally
Speaker 2: going to be shipped on by everybody else and they're
Speaker 2: gonna hate on Christians for believing government propaganda kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's reverse psychology, like a
Speaker 2: lot of psyops right now. Yeah, but I'm not.
Speaker 3: In that group, or I don't want to come out
Speaker 3: and just do that right out front because I don't know.
Speaker 2: But smarter than I then no.
Speaker 3: But the thing I can speak to is the character
Speaker 3: of Jamie Walton. I don't know all those others Joel,
Speaker 3: but Jamie he's a warrior for God. He's a solid dude.
Speaker 3: He would never uh work for the government or be
Speaker 3: some kind of shrill to backstaff of our religion or
Speaker 3: our faith or anything like that. So I think he's
Speaker 3: a solid dude. But like I said, it's just I
Speaker 3: think if some organization or group is calling some kind
Speaker 3: of meeting and trying to construct some kind of narrative,
Speaker 3: we have to stop and ask why, you know, or yeah,
Speaker 3: because there's there's a reason for this. But I seen
Speaker 3: on I think it was Facebook, Jamie had shared one
Speaker 3: of the posts talking about that stuff, and he said that,
Speaker 3: you know, his informed opinion was it was all on
Speaker 3: the popos and Tom Horne's prediction about this asteroid you know,
Speaker 3: Wornwood in Revelations, Yeah, to Earth and and all all
Speaker 3: over SpaceX was launched, you know, right after that and
Speaker 3: everything else. So but anyway, I know it's hard to
Speaker 3: walk away from that. But okay, So we talked about
Speaker 3: your book and some of the themes in it, and
Speaker 3: we ended that show with a clip of Dan de
Speaker 3: Val weirdly praying against reptilians and all kinds of octopus
Speaker 3: counsel octopus counsel and all this kind of crazy stuff
Speaker 3: at the end there. And so that was like a
Speaker 3: little teaser for this one. So this one is the
Speaker 3: deformation trial of Dan Duval. So here you go. The
Speaker 3: court is in session. We may hear your police sir.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, I've had a gripe with this man for a while.
Speaker 2: I've made him my arch nemesis one sided, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you before I get into this.
Speaker 2: I've recently had a contact that is in I would
Speaker 2: say decent good friend or at least knows him very well,
Speaker 2: has his contact, and I asked him, I said, get
Speaker 2: me in touch with him. I want to send him
Speaker 2: a letter like an email, and I already have it
Speaker 2: written up. But I'm gonna be very, very very honestly
Speaker 2: apologize for by shitting on him and that I've been
Speaker 2: doing in these podcasts and say, hey, I've been assuming
Speaker 2: because I want to get this out in the way.
Speaker 2: I've been assuming his nepharious intent for a while now,
Speaker 2: because when you read some of the details, you might assume, like,
Speaker 2: at first, okay, you were deceived by demons, and that's
Speaker 2: what we're gonna be getting into. And you know, I
Speaker 2: think it's I lean towards the idea that he knows
Speaker 2: what he's doing is wrong now in a cult, but
Speaker 2: it's very very technically possible that he is incredibly deceived
Speaker 2: and you know, also influenced by these entities of course,
Speaker 2: and because of that, he might genuinely believe he's working
Speaker 2: for the lord he says he does. But I I
Speaker 2: it's it's hard for me to figure this out when
Speaker 2: you read the details. When we get into it, you're
Speaker 2: gonna be like, is this guy nefarious or is he
Speaker 2: really really deceived, and I'm I'm gonna be honest. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna try to get in contact with him and see
Speaker 2: how he reacts. If he tries to get an illegal
Speaker 2: stuff involved, we'll see what happens. But I'm giving him
Speaker 2: an opportunity to come clean and be like, hey, you
Speaker 2: can use this as a testimony to repent and be like,
Speaker 2: this is how deceived I was, and this is how
Speaker 2: much like power the demonic deception is having. And he
Speaker 2: can switch sides and do the right thing here, and
Speaker 2: I very much hope he does, and I'm praying for
Speaker 2: him out of love. But I wrote I wrote him
Speaker 2: a letter that's very very tough love type dat energy
Speaker 2: and it's funny coming from me probably, But so I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get in touch with him soon, hopefully and see
Speaker 2: how that goes. And if I need to go ramp
Speaker 2: up the aggression because of his poor response that might happen, we.
Speaker 3: Will do that.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna try to be as nice as I
Speaker 2: can today and assume the best. But it is gonna
Speaker 2: get kind of crazy, insane, And I guess do you
Speaker 2: have I want to give you a thousand foot overview.
Speaker 2: I guess about what we're talking about today, because this
Speaker 2: is unless I skip through some parts, which we're totally
Speaker 2: welcome to. Let me know how I structure this presentation
Speaker 2: is spending the first half on New Age A gnostic
Speaker 2: healing methods, which I'll break down in a minute, and
Speaker 2: then the second half or so is all Dan Duvall.
Speaker 2: And you have to do the first half with the
Speaker 2: other practice, because what I'm doing is us examining these
Speaker 2: two practices and showing they are the same thing, rebranded
Speaker 2: by demons, giving lore that's different to different people, catering
Speaker 2: a Christian narrative to this man, but it's also mixing
Speaker 2: in using it as a bridge to the New A
Speaker 2: gymnostic narratives coming down by combining the two worlds in
Speaker 2: ways that aren't compatible biblically. So I hope that makes sense,
Speaker 2: and you let me know if you have any questions, brother, not.
Speaker 3: The floor is yours. And like I said, I don't
Speaker 3: want you to cut it short, and we will be
Speaker 3: good Berians and we will hear out this matter and
Speaker 3: then search the scriptures to see if it is so
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 2: I love it man. Well anyway, so yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: decent presentation here pretty detailed and convoluted at times, so
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good at explaining it by now. But if
Speaker 2: you have any questions, interrupt me and yell at me
Speaker 2: and slap me around, and I'll totally answer whatever questions
Speaker 2: because it is kind of hard to follow at times.
Speaker 2: But I think I got it down to a science now.
Speaker 2: So what we're going to be breaking down today is,
Speaker 2: I guess before I go into it, I should mend
Speaker 2: the first episode we covered the astral simulation theory and
Speaker 2: how the astral realm is, in my opinion, that we
Speaker 2: the actal realm that we visit. I'm not saying there's
Speaker 2: no spirit realm, but whatever we're visiting in our astral travels,
Speaker 2: actual projections are entity facilitated, you know, controlled simulations, lucid
Speaker 2: dreams that they control every detail of and I made
Speaker 2: sure I was thorough and if you don't believe me,
Speaker 2: watched the first episode. But they control every character that
Speaker 2: you're speaking to, every visual, every sense of all your
Speaker 2: whatever senses are present at the time, which is a combination.
Speaker 2: They control your lucidity if they want to, your your intuition,
Speaker 2: your inner thoughts. And I'm not saying every little every
Speaker 2: little thought you have is not your own, but they
Speaker 2: can influence every single one and guide you completely, and
Speaker 2: they choose where you go and what you see and
Speaker 2: what you learn. And they admit to this at times, saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a simulation we're putting in as a test.
Speaker 2: Oh but no, this is a real astral realm. But
Speaker 2: we can control the simulations perfectly to where you can't
Speaker 2: tell the difference, and everybody says it feels realer than reality,
Speaker 2: even the simulations. So keep in mind this is the base,
Speaker 2: the bedrock of the information for this part. Because the
Speaker 2: holistic healing we're talking about has visions accompanying the healings,
Speaker 2: so and they are the same rules, except visions we're
Speaker 2: talking about here are like remote viewing style in our
Speaker 2: third eye, not out of body, so it's way less immersive,
Speaker 2: way lower, I like to say, cpu requiring than actional travel.
Speaker 2: So if actional travel is so detailed and controlled as
Speaker 2: it is, you need to understand that these visions people
Speaker 2: are getting are are much easier to accomplish on the
Speaker 2: demonic deception side, which actual travels mastered and perfected for them.
Speaker 2: So I'm just letting people know if you think remote
Speaker 2: viewing data is legitimate and can be trusted, but this
Speaker 2: can't be. Then you're going to be you know, totally
Speaker 2: deceived there because it's all the same weapon here, trans
Speaker 2: state related things. So keep that in mind. Watch episode
Speaker 2: one if you don't believe me. But we're going to
Speaker 2: get into I'm going to talk about the sources really
Speaker 2: quick of what I'm using, which is a couple. We're
Speaker 2: using not only Dan Duvall's Ministry, which I'm taking all
Speaker 2: of his verbatim quotes I've scattered and found from his interviews,
Speaker 2: podcast presentations, not from his book because his book came out,
Speaker 2: his Preademic book came out after mine did, so I
Speaker 2: don't have that ready, but I have enough gathered from
Speaker 2: his interviews, so so I don't. But the other sources
Speaker 2: are books, and it's William J. Baldwin's Spirit Releasement Therapy
Speaker 2: Manual that's the main one, and coinciding with it is
Speaker 2: shakuntal Emode's Remarkable Healings. They have the same exact lore.
Speaker 2: The manual is more teaching and the Chakuntalamodes is more
Speaker 2: testimony transcripts stories, so they're but they're the same stuff essentially,
Speaker 2: and then we're using Baldwin's other book CE six Close
Speaker 2: Encounters of the Possession Kind, which is the alien side
Speaker 2: of this, which is channeled aliens apparently, and what they're saying,
Speaker 2: and that has some very crazy insights. It is one
Speaker 2: of the hardest books to acquire. If you want the book,
Speaker 2: I have a PDF I can send you, uh, and
Speaker 2: it's not easy to find.
Speaker 3: And of all and this stuff we're covering, it's actually
Speaker 3: in your book. This is not something yes, all of
Speaker 3: this and wanted to talk about. Okay, all of this
Speaker 3: is recorded in my book.
Speaker 2: Everything I'm talking about today, except it's like one or
Speaker 2: two things I gathered after the fact.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, this is a guy that I've never you know,
Speaker 3: I know he's been around and going on a lot
Speaker 3: of big name shows, but I've never watched him. I've
Speaker 3: he's blowing up right now and even me, like even
Speaker 3: the clips I see, I'm just like, man, this guy,
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got to try to judge you, but
Speaker 3: but I have I mean, I got a pretty good
Speaker 3: nose for for bullshitters and I know fakes, and as
Speaker 3: soon as I seen him, I was just like that,
Speaker 3: something's off with that guy. And I could be wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm human, you know what I mean. But so I
Speaker 3: don't know what he talks about. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 3: what he's done, who he's helped, who he's hurt. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I just know what little bit I've seen
Speaker 3: it from clip him talking crazy stuff. So I got
Speaker 3: some people in the chat you know that are loyal
Speaker 3: listeners and they're there every week. I love them to death. Uh,
Speaker 3: are kind of getting a little bit defensive because I
Speaker 3: guess they like this person and they're talking.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's got some fans. Hey, hey, guys, if
Speaker 2: you're listening, please say for the entire episode. And yeah,
Speaker 2: if you if anybody's listening in their fan of Dan
Speaker 2: and they think I'm being very problematic here, please listen
Speaker 2: to the whole thing. You will one percent be convinced
Speaker 2: that I have something to offer here information wise, and
Speaker 2: that he is deceived by demons. And there My whole
Speaker 2: thing is these practices I'm going over the details of
Speaker 2: them cannot coexist and both be healing people. Yet they
Speaker 2: both heal people, and it's not true healing and permanent,
Speaker 2: but we'll get into that detail later. They cannot co exist.
Speaker 2: They but they and and this stuff is very underground.
Speaker 2: The spirit releasement therapy stuff was somewhat big and small
Speaker 2: pockets around the country in the eighties and nineties, but
Speaker 2: it has I can't find anybody talking it today because
Speaker 2: I think the practitioners practicing it died and it stopped continuing,
Speaker 2: probably because a lot of spiritual warfare involved in it.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, listen to the whole thing before
Speaker 2: you just assume I'm some asshole, because I do look
Speaker 2: like one, but I'm not potentially, and I'm trying to
Speaker 2: be nice and respectful here instead of as I was before.
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, did you have anything else you want
Speaker 2: to say before I go crazy?
Speaker 3: No, Like I said, I just wanted to get that
Speaker 3: out there because, like I said, I don't know nothing.
Speaker 3: I don't know what he does. I just heard him
Speaker 3: talk some crazy stuff. But yeah, I got a listener
Speaker 3: in here. I want to throw this comment at you
Speaker 3: before we get started. She said that if this gentleman
Speaker 3: knew Dan, he would know that his victims are not
Speaker 3: astral projecting. They are actual victims of human trafficking, and
Speaker 3: we are not still traveling on their own.
Speaker 2: I'm seventy percent. Sure, I understand what they're saying, to
Speaker 2: be honest, but I will say I'm not saying they're
Speaker 2: visions they're having during the healings are assenal projections. I'm
Speaker 2: saying they're pre consented visions that they consent to when
Speaker 2: they go into this occult practice because it is divination
Speaker 2: what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I'm saying that the visions are getting are deceptive
Speaker 2: from demons and because they have visions of Jesus and
Speaker 2: angels and you know, demons, and they have all these
Speaker 2: crazy finat and they travel across the cosmos into different
Speaker 2: planets to recover soul fragments. I don't want to get
Speaker 2: ahead of myself. We'll get to that. But it's mind's
Speaker 2: eye visions and it's remote viewing essentially in the mechanics
Speaker 2: of it, which is a less like I said, less
Speaker 2: immersive astraal travel. So I'm not saying it's actual travel.
Speaker 2: But now if you want to say, I'm not saying
Speaker 2: they're all doing that. But do I think Dan Astral
Speaker 2: travels in his own time? Yes, And I have a
Speaker 2: clip of him admitting it on The Confessional's episode, But
Speaker 2: he calls it something else. He says it't maneuvering the
Speaker 2: Second Heaven. He says, no, I don't do the occult practice,
Speaker 2: but I maneuver the Second Heaven in Christ. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: and he said it all like child, being like nervous,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, dude, you're admitting to ashtle travel and
Speaker 2: you're saying you're doing it in Christ. So it's okay.
Speaker 2: And there's no such thing. God will pull you out
Speaker 2: of your body to take you on a vision quest
Speaker 2: if you need be only to further the kingdom, but
Speaker 2: not you doing some meditation practice or whatever it may
Speaker 2: be to get out of body. So he admits to it.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to say disclosed sources, but I've
Speaker 2: had people tell me and people that.
Speaker 3: Are human trafficked or SRA survivors and people.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying, that's all fake, That's not what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: No, No, what I'm asking because I don't know, does
Speaker 3: he work with those people? And yes, and help those people?
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it's a problem if I'm right about what
Speaker 2: I'm saying here is he's reprogramming them, reprogramming them into
Speaker 2: the occult with these practices, and they're they're not getting
Speaker 2: spiritual protection because they're doing divination and then it's putting
Speaker 2: slapping Jesus name on it. So it's okay, and I'll explain.
Speaker 2: I'll give the thousand foot O review. I guess which is.
Speaker 2: These are practices where the healer or the therapist Dan
Speaker 2: Duvall or will M. J. Baldwin, Shacoutlmoda, whoever it is,
Speaker 2: they are doing the same thing here. They are getting
Speaker 2: their patient into a trance state, right, and in this
Speaker 2: trance state, they are pre consenting to entity invitation like
Speaker 2: a seance, you know, channeling. And I'll get into the
Speaker 2: differences between them in a second, but they basically chanel
Speaker 2: spirits and they simultaneously are getting a vision. And if
Speaker 2: you go to Dan, he'll get, you know, certain spirits,
Speaker 2: and if you go to a New Age practitioner, they
Speaker 2: will get a bigger array, you know, a cosmologically larger
Speaker 2: array of spirits that Dan never encounters, such as ghosts.
Speaker 2: Dan doesn't talk about ghosts because ghosts go to heaven
Speaker 2: or Hell, right, But in New Age Gnostic territory, they
Speaker 2: go to the higher realms, or they're stuck on Earth
Speaker 2: because of their addictions or fascinations with material realm, so
Speaker 2: they'll be stuck on earth and you can channel them.
Speaker 2: So why don't they have any overlap? That's interesting. These
Speaker 2: people go in to do past life progression alongside these
Speaker 2: spirit releasement therapy and Dan Duvall I'll summarize does preademic
Speaker 2: memory access, which is spirit memories from before Adam in
Speaker 2: the ether or in the astral whatever. And it's the
Speaker 2: same concept where people say, oh, well, in my past
Speaker 2: life before I was born, I chose my incarnation. I
Speaker 2: chose how hard my life is going to be or
Speaker 2: how easy based on what reward I wanted karmically or
Speaker 2: what reward I wanted in you know, in christ it's
Speaker 2: the same concept but rebranded for Christians saying no, I
Speaker 2: don't believe in past past life therapy, and his explanation
Speaker 2: for how people access past life aggression memories is actually
Speaker 2: really problematic and not using data at all, which I'll
Speaker 2: break that down later. But anyway, these people go into
Speaker 2: these therapy sessions and they channel spirits and in the
Speaker 2: New Age stuff, they'll say, hey, you need to go,
Speaker 2: you need to get out of here. After talking to
Speaker 2: them and sharing cosmological information and they'll they'll do theatrics.
Speaker 2: It's spirit theatrics. It's all demons masking as ghosts, as demons,
Speaker 2: but they call themselves dark force entities, a lower intelligence level,
Speaker 2: a lower evil level, or less nefarious than actual demons.
Speaker 2: They will cast themselves as aliens, but instead of alien souls.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it is, but most of the time it's etheric
Speaker 2: technological attachments implanted etherically on you, on your astrobody by
Speaker 2: aliens who are physically in a lab somewhere, and through
Speaker 2: that tech attachment, you can channel them out of your
Speaker 2: voice as if they're attached to you like any other entity.
Speaker 2: That is exactly what they teach. Dan teaches that too,
Speaker 2: the etheric tech stuff. He maybe not use those words,
Speaker 2: but he channels aliens which he believes are not nefiline
Speaker 2: and meat suits. He believes they are literal aliens. And
Speaker 2: we have an expansive universe that is Old Earth. And
Speaker 2: you know, if you believe in Older Earth, I get it.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of information for it. But you know,
Speaker 2: look up hid your Plate theory. Brian Nichols break down
Speaker 2: presentation on YouTube that will open your mind to the
Speaker 2: Young Earth theory and how it can actually be everything
Speaker 2: could be explained in that context.
Speaker 3: But I got an autograph cop.
Speaker 2: Oh hell, yeah, I got the book right by the show.
Speaker 3: While yeah, I got an autograph cop. I found it
Speaker 3: on eBay, was like.
Speaker 2: That's gangster man. Yeah, I printed my own from a
Speaker 2: PDF because I wanted to spend less money, but I
Speaker 2: got I got cooler on it. But yeah, no, I
Speaker 2: haven't read it yet, but I've I've watched the hydroplate
Speaker 2: thing like three times. It's it's pretty.
Speaker 3: Gangster answers a lot of questions, don't.
Speaker 2: Answers every question it seems that I've had. And then
Speaker 2: there's more things out there. But you know, we'll get
Speaker 2: into that another time anyway. So this, the this whole
Speaker 2: thing is theatrics channeling from these entities. Now, the big
Speaker 2: difference between Dan Duvall's and the rest of these is
Speaker 2: everybody channels through their voice, and Dan du Vall says, no,
Speaker 2: I don't do that. That's a cult, that's divination. I channel.
Speaker 2: He doesn't use that word, but he says that the
Speaker 2: difference in his is his patients will go into their
Speaker 2: mind's I vision, he calls it the inner world, and
Speaker 2: in that inner world, those visions I'm talking about are
Speaker 2: totally controlled. Is where you meet your aliens, ghosts, demons,
Speaker 2: sole fragments as well, which is a crazier thing, which
Speaker 2: is split off alters of yourself. That's a we'll have
Speaker 2: that conversation later. But you can channel all these entities,
Speaker 2: including fragments of yourself, as if they're a seer intelligence.
Speaker 2: And in his thing, he says, no, I don't channel.
Speaker 2: I have them talk telepathically in their mind's eye in
Speaker 2: the visions to these entities, and then they with their
Speaker 2: voice relay the information. So you're basically using a human
Speaker 2: as a Wigi board, which is the same thing, and
Speaker 2: taking one step removed to not call it channeling, but
Speaker 2: it's still channeled information from spiritual contexts. You're just speaking
Speaker 2: for them instead of speaking out of their mouth. That
Speaker 2: is the only difference that is a Wigi board. It's
Speaker 2: the same thing. Now, he does have a quote that
Speaker 2: I'll talk about later where he admits to voice channeling,
Speaker 2: and he might have just forty and slipped and not
Speaker 2: meant to say it, but he kind of admitted it
Speaker 2: in a way that I'm like, he might be doing both,
Speaker 2: and I believe that's what's happening. I could be wrong there.
Speaker 2: That's an assumption I'm making based off a literal quote,
Speaker 2: though we'll talk about that later. So is this making
Speaker 2: sense so far the whole process dynamics wise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I understand what he's saying.
Speaker 2: It's a little confusing.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I just heard the little clips and things,
Speaker 3: and from what you're saying and from I'm listening to
Speaker 3: Amy in the chat. She's one of the ones I
Speaker 3: was talking about there love Amy. But apparently if I'm
Speaker 3: understanding right, I guess you know she's talking about this
Speaker 3: in the chat because from my understanding from what I read,
Speaker 3: she actually went through one of these with Dan Oh
Speaker 3: really over over a human I guess a human trafficking thing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I'm not saying he hasn't helped people
Speaker 2: and that people don't have less spiritual warfare afterwards, I'm
Speaker 2: saying it's strategic. This is demonic strategy. If these healings
Speaker 2: are false, like I'm saying, which we'll get into head
Speaker 2: the evidence for why these are not legitimate, then you
Speaker 2: are not really spiritually protecting yourself by doing a practice
Speaker 2: of divination. They are laying off their oppression. They've been
Speaker 2: giving you strategically at the moment the vision ends and
Speaker 2: the moment that they say they're gone and they've exercised them.
Speaker 2: They don't use that word though really well, Dan, I
Speaker 2: guess does probably. But after the whole thing's over, you
Speaker 2: buy into the cosmology because they're giving you extra biblical
Speaker 2: gnostic adjacent cosmology that promotes a lot of those concepts
Speaker 2: and like Secret Space Program, expansive Universe, literal aliens, infinite life,
Speaker 2: all that stuff. All these concepts are worth They're trading
Speaker 2: your healing for that belief, and it doesn't mean it's
Speaker 2: permanent because you don't have true Holy Spare protection. After
Speaker 2: a practice divinition like this, you're actually more open. But
Speaker 2: they are not going to go and spiritual oppress you
Speaker 2: right afterwards, because you are now believing their slop, which
Speaker 2: is then gravitating you away from a true biblical understanding,
Speaker 2: which is worth it to them. It is much more
Speaker 2: worth it for them for you to believe incorrectly than
Speaker 2: to oppress you would make you sad. And if you're
Speaker 2: an asset and you're promoting this material.
Speaker 3: Time investment kind of thing I've had Joy talk about,
Speaker 3: you know, yes, go to the astral realm all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, like you had mentioned last episode, get kicked out.
Speaker 3: And it's because she said, because you either no longer
Speaker 3: believe their stuff, so you're not going to propagate and
Speaker 3: promote their stuff, or you are not useful to them
Speaker 3: as like a celebrity, you're someone important with the influence.
Speaker 2: So that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: If you're not helping them, then you are gone. But
Speaker 3: if you are helping them and being a good mouthpiece
Speaker 3: or whatever, then they'll allow you.
Speaker 2: They'll take care of you. They'll take good care.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And Dan is if this is all true, he's the biggest,
Speaker 2: one of the biggest assets they have for the Christian
Speaker 2: movement and deceiving many Christians. And I'm not saying these
Speaker 2: people are losing their salvation or anything. I'm a once
Speaker 2: save boy, save guy. But you know, they can also
Speaker 2: deceive many others in guide people coming into Christianity away
Speaker 2: from it, and they can just the deception alone can
Speaker 2: have the great falling away, now you know, and then
Speaker 2: it's the whole Okay, Well, what if they take the mark,
Speaker 2: are they then losing their salvation? Well that seems to
Speaker 2: be implied in the Bible, so we're not gonna talk
Speaker 2: about it, but this deception is worth the trade off
Speaker 2: of spiritual oppression, which they don't need to do to everybody.
Speaker 2: It is more they want your belief, they want your
Speaker 2: allegiance over all this other stuff. So they're deceiving Christians heavily.
Speaker 2: So I think it's all strategic. And like I said,
Speaker 2: these practices can't coexist and be healing, so I think
Speaker 2: a lot of the healings are temporary. If people have
Speaker 2: said that is the case, but I don't think it's.
Speaker 2: I think it's case by case. So you might be
Speaker 2: having a fine time after your exposure to this practice,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean it's because you're truly healed or
Speaker 2: I mean protected. It's a false healing that is trading
Speaker 2: your belief system. So once you start believing in true
Speaker 2: biblical things again and get rid of the duval lore,
Speaker 2: you might get some more spiritual warfare. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but very possible, is all I'm saying. So I hope
Speaker 2: that makes sense to people. Let me know if you've
Speaker 2: got anything for me.
Speaker 3: Bro No, that's good man. I didn't mean to hold
Speaker 3: you up there, but I know you're good. I was
Speaker 3: flying blind there I wanted a little update.
Speaker 2: No, I'm glad we addressed that early on because I
Speaker 2: meant to do that anyway, and I just forget. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a good question. So yeah, I got into the manuals.
Speaker 2: I didn't mention one more, which is the first one
Speaker 2: we'll be talking about, which is Carl Wickland's Thirty Years
Speaker 2: among the Dead book came out I think in nineteen
Speaker 2: twenty four. It's the oldest source we're using, and it
Speaker 2: is thirty years worth of channeling. And the big difference
Speaker 2: in the other works is it's a similar process, but
Speaker 2: much less nuanced and complicated as the spirit releasement therapy
Speaker 2: will get into. His whole process is he is with
Speaker 2: his wife. His wife is the medium, and he a
Speaker 2: patient will come in with a ghost attachment. This man
Speaker 2: is only channeled ghosts in thirty years. He's never encountered
Speaker 2: an alien. He's never counted a demon, he's never encountered
Speaker 2: a He's encountered ascended spirits that will come down, yes,
Speaker 2: but only ghosts and ascended spirits, which are you know,
Speaker 2: humans that ascended mastered themselves. Essentially, that's the only thing
Speaker 2: he's channeled in thirty years. That's a little weird how
Speaker 2: he's never encountered a soul fragment. He's never encountered an
Speaker 2: alien or any of those other entities. That is selective,
Speaker 2: it seems. And this is an older era where things
Speaker 2: were simpler, and I think they were just catering to
Speaker 2: the simpler times, honestly, instead of getting really crazy and
Speaker 2: ahead of themselves before it's before the alien stuff becomes
Speaker 2: part of the culture like it did in these later years,
Speaker 2: because it wouldn't make any sense, right, So they're catering
Speaker 2: to the time period of updating with the times. So
Speaker 2: in his practice only go in thirty years, and he
Speaker 2: instead of channeling through the patient, he is shocking the
Speaker 2: patient with a little electric device, which doesn't hurt them
Speaker 2: too much, but it shocks the ghost attachment apparently a lot,
Speaker 2: and they freak out and leave the body. And then
Speaker 2: Karl Wickland's medium wife will be there. They're a power couple, right.
Speaker 2: The medium wife will catch the ghost in her aura
Speaker 2: and start channeling it like she's a d one wide
Speaker 2: receiver catching a football. Dude, it's crazy. She then it
Speaker 2: channels them and they have a conversation with the spirit
Speaker 2: and in pretty much one hundred percent of the cases.
Speaker 2: And I'm reading transcripts from this book. It is conversations,
Speaker 2: every word detailed and you know, taken to each word.
Speaker 2: It's verbatim, and it's mostly transcripts of their conversations. And
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say ninety nine percent of these ghosts are
Speaker 2: absolutely donkey brained and retarded. They are really dumb and
Speaker 2: really childish, and they don't share grand cosmology. They are
Speaker 2: focused on, you know more, or drugs or sex or
Speaker 2: whatever addiction has apparently kept them on the earth plane.
Speaker 2: And they're amnesiac amnesiacs, and they don't have a sense
Speaker 2: of time. They don't know how long they've been dead.
Speaker 2: They often don't know they're dead. And when you ask
Speaker 2: them their name or who they were, how they died,
Speaker 2: they eventually remember, usually, but it takes them a while
Speaker 2: to remember. You have to jog their memory. They don't
Speaker 2: know they're being channeled in a body. Even though they're
Speaker 2: in a woman's body. They're talking for the first time,
Speaker 2: probably ever handling. They seem to not be aware of
Speaker 2: it when you're conversating with them. They're just really dumb
Speaker 2: and not present. And the ghosts in the SRT lore
Speaker 2: and the demon characters and everybody else, they don't share
Speaker 2: those traits pretty much at all. They're a little bit
Speaker 2: dumb and corny sometimes, but they're not total like retards
Speaker 2: like the ones in the twenties. Maybe you could say, oh,
Speaker 2: ghost got a lot smarter in the last sixty eighty years. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't make sense that it's consistent across pretty
Speaker 2: much every character. Now, that's what so I think they're
Speaker 2: just catering different narratives and different concepts to different people.
Speaker 2: Another thing is, what is it? Yeah, so they're all
Speaker 2: stupid and they don't really spill the beans on elaborate cosmology.
Speaker 2: But after you send them to the light, you know,
Speaker 2: which is a metaphysical thing the person is seeing in
Speaker 2: a vision, they'll see angels come and rescue these spirits
Speaker 2: and send them to the light. This is what everybody
Speaker 2: says in all their practices. I forgot to say. But
Speaker 2: Duval will send demons to the pit, he will banish
Speaker 2: them to Hell, to the pit. So it's the same concept,
Speaker 2: but just different metaphysical commands to send you to different
Speaker 2: locations which you're seeing in the mind's eye, and it's
Speaker 2: validated because of the vision and because the healing afterwards,
Speaker 2: which is a full Semitic experience, they're strategically controlling, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, So in Karl Wickland's nineteen twenties type stuff,
Speaker 2: they will spill cosmology whenever it is an ascended spirit
Speaker 2: who was healed by you originally, and then months later
Speaker 2: they'll come back and channel through the wife and say, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: remember me, I'm that one retard from before. Thanks so
Speaker 2: much for healing me. I now understand how silly I
Speaker 2: was staying on the earth plane and possessing people. Sorry
Speaker 2: about that. Thanks again. By the way, reincarnation is, those
Speaker 2: are spirits impressed upon you by ghost attachments, Like they'll
Speaker 2: literally come out of nowhere to say thank you. And also,
Speaker 2: here's some reincarnation lore and they'll say it's not true.
Speaker 2: And everybody else in the channeling sphere pretty much admits
Speaker 2: reincarnation is true, except a few channeled sources, which I'm
Speaker 2: getting into why they're doing this. Most people, when I
Speaker 2: bring this up, they're like, well, if they're demons and
Speaker 2: they're all lying and playing characters, why are they telling
Speaker 2: you different things pro reincarnation, anti reincarnation. All these things.
Speaker 2: It is strategy. This is called strategy. Why did they
Speaker 2: only create Why didn't they create one religion to counter Christianity?
Speaker 2: Why did they have to use all these vessels to
Speaker 2: create so many different various belief systems with very similar
Speaker 2: beliefs but overall diverging in incompatible ways. Why did they
Speaker 2: do that? It's muddying the waters. It is creating various
Speaker 2: belief systems so that Christianity looks like one in a
Speaker 2: giant bucket of different belief systems, making it less important
Speaker 2: and seem more insignificant. And if you do one counter
Speaker 2: belief system that counters Kristianity, then people are going to
Speaker 2: easily see it's a demonic deception. As opposed to mutting
Speaker 2: the waters with all these dozens hundreds of various belief systems, right,
Speaker 2: it's it's strategically better because they know people, and they
Speaker 2: know how dumb they are, and they know that people
Speaker 2: will gravitate towards what makes sense to them, as opposed
Speaker 2: to cross examining all these different sources and seeing, oh,
Speaker 2: there's a common deception here, which is what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: But most people don't have the time or focus or
Speaker 2: energy to understand these concepts. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Am I making sense so far?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Because I feel that way with comparative mythology and things
Speaker 3: like that. I've told people many times I'm I'm not
Speaker 3: a real smart guy, and I've never had an original idea,
Speaker 3: but I do a lot of reading. And where I
Speaker 3: look at all these different cultures and their legends and
Speaker 3: stories and mythologies, and where I've read them all, I
Speaker 3: can connect dots, and where I have a biblical foundation,
Speaker 3: I can show you how that filters through, you know,
Speaker 3: the Bible. And that's kind of what I do. I
Speaker 3: just I read all these different stuff and I connect
Speaker 3: nots and it sounds like what you've done here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Once you look cross examine all these sources, you see
Speaker 2: a thematic pattern aligning. In my second chapter in my book,
Speaker 2: I do like twelve I think different channeled sources and
Speaker 2: I cross examine what they say about Jesus, what they
Speaker 2: say about demons, what they say about Atlantis, pre antidiluvian stuff,
Speaker 2: our creation, our origin, all of this stuff. I cross
Speaker 2: examine what they say on these topics and most popular
Speaker 2: channeled sources including regressed and at Kashik records, psychic access stuff,
Speaker 2: mostly channeled voice channeling. They thematically align in so many ways,
Speaker 2: but diverge on the details, and so frequently, in so
Speaker 2: many ways, they cannot coexist. And they're always attacking Christianity
Speaker 2: and Jesus. And if they're saying nice things about Jesus,
Speaker 2: which is often, it'll always be in the ascended master context,
Speaker 2: the gnostic context, that he wasn't who he wasn't Yahweh,
Speaker 2: the demiurge, he was a descended Master, and he was
Speaker 2: actually against Yahweh's That's what they thematically will push, but
Speaker 2: the details of how they got there are so different.
Speaker 2: They're either all lying or one of them is telling
Speaker 2: the truth. But they're all achieving these deceptions in the
Speaker 2: same exact way by channeling through whoever's willing to do
Speaker 2: an occult practice. It's kind of ridiculous. So I wanted
Speaker 2: to read a little quote just so people know I'm
Speaker 2: not making stuff up. This is a direct quote from
Speaker 2: Carl Wickland's work, and I don't know if it's Thirty
Speaker 2: Years among the Dead or his other books I forgot,
Speaker 2: but it's one of them. And he says the theory
Speaker 2: of reincarnation can undoubtedly be traced to early stages of mankind,
Speaker 2: when departed spirits took possession of the bodies of sensitive
Speaker 2: individuals and lived and acted through them, thus seemingly indicating reincarnation,
Speaker 2: but in reality this was only spirit obsession or possession.
Speaker 2: The supposed memories of past lives of those who believe
Speaker 2: in reincarnation are far better accounted for by the presence
Speaker 2: of invisible intelligences, whose memories of their own mortal careers
Speaker 2: are conveyed through thought waves to the reincarnationists who have
Speaker 2: become sensitized to such impressions. Now he's using a lot
Speaker 2: of big words of being a little extra about it,
Speaker 2: but basically he's saying, if you have a reincarnation memory,
Speaker 2: a past life memory with he's access by doing these practices,
Speaker 2: he's saying that they are belonging to your ghost attachment
Speaker 2: who is stuck to you etherically, and that's their memory.
Speaker 2: He's not saying these are demons impressing false memories, which
Speaker 2: is still a lie, because that's what I'm saying is
Speaker 2: the truth. But he's saying it's possible, and it explains
Speaker 2: all reincarnation memories. Now, in the future, stuff we'll get in.
Speaker 2: Actually I'll get there when I get there. But they
Speaker 2: say similar things. But they say recaras is real, yes,
Speaker 2: but you can be reliving past life memories from spirits,
Speaker 2: So then they connect both theories. So now it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: they can coexist. It's just that Karl Wickland was confused.
Speaker 2: He thought it was all fake, but no, just a
Speaker 2: lot of them belong to these ghosts, so now they don't.
Speaker 2: They technically can align with each other. It's just he's confused.
Speaker 2: But in thirty years of channeling, why are so many
Speaker 2: spirits coming to him saying, hey, thanks for saving me earlier.
Speaker 2: By the way, reincarnation is not true. And I know
Speaker 2: because I'm in the spirit realm right now. That is
Speaker 2: a straight up lie from a spirit then, right, So
Speaker 2: it's they can't coexist. They can't all be telling the truth.
Speaker 2: And if they're not all telling the truth, they're probably
Speaker 2: all lying. And what else are they telling us? You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So it's there's a lot of
Speaker 2: patterny gather and I guess. Oh. And he channels Helena Bilbotsky,
Speaker 2: the theosophy creator himself, and she even denies reincarnation at
Speaker 2: the end of the book, and it's like, oh, a
Speaker 2: great reveal, and if she's saying it, it must be
Speaker 2: true because she was all about reincarnation and admitted she
Speaker 2: was wrong in the spirit realm. Like that's all. They're
Speaker 2: just taking a character and masking. How do we know
Speaker 2: it's Helena Bobotsky. Oh because she said, so, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's just kind of crazy. So yeah,
Speaker 2: entity contact divination is what they want. That's constant. That's
Speaker 2: a primary focus. Theology can be fluid, it does not matter.
Speaker 2: People will gravitate towards what they want and what they
Speaker 2: feel makes sense for the most part, So keep that
Speaker 2: in mind when you're hearing all this stuff. That's all
Speaker 2: I have to say about Karl Wickland's work. I mean,
Speaker 2: but that's the most important stuff. Now. I want to
Speaker 2: get into the general chain of events for the whole
Speaker 2: practice of spirit releasementth therapy, so people understand the dynamics
Speaker 2: taking place here, because if they don't understand the dynamics
Speaker 2: they are going to it's going to be harder to
Speaker 2: grasp what I'm saying here. So yeah, like I said,
Speaker 2: they're coming in, they're channeling a spirit. It can be
Speaker 2: any type of spirit. It can be a ghost, a
Speaker 2: soul fragment, and a tech attachment connecting to an alien base,
Speaker 2: which we'll get into more of those stories. In the
Speaker 2: middle of this stuff. It can demons that don't identifies
Speaker 2: biblical demons, but its dark force entities, which is what
Speaker 2: we'll call them. So if he's dealing with a ghost,
Speaker 2: which is eighty percent, he says, of these attachments, which
Speaker 2: is funny because Dan Duvall's met zero, but this guy
Speaker 2: has eighty percent of them out of thousands. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: So for ghosts, you want to talk to this ghost
Speaker 2: and you want to say, hey, why are you here,
Speaker 2: Why are you attached to this person? What is your problem? Now?
Speaker 2: For example, if the patient is an alcoholic, this ghost
Speaker 2: might have died and been an alcoholic when he died,
Speaker 2: and now he's floating around the earth room obsessed with
Speaker 2: being drunk or whatever it may be, and finds an
Speaker 2: alcoholic in a bar and attaches to them because they
Speaker 2: were left open because of their similar brainwave states, because
Speaker 2: they're similar people, because they're both alcoholics. And now this
Speaker 2: ghost can live vicariously and feel the feelings of being
Speaker 2: drunk through this individual and can now experience it like them.
Speaker 2: Now they're not fully possessing them and taking over their body,
Speaker 2: but they're living in their body, feeling what they're feeling.
Speaker 2: So I find that that's what people understand, is what
Speaker 2: the whole storyline here is. Are you following so far?
Speaker 2: Am I getting too crazy?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: I'm with you. And even kind of goes along with
Speaker 3: what some people talk about, you know, familiars. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to think even some people kind of float around the
Speaker 3: generational curse idea.
Speaker 2: You know, I complied a spirit.
Speaker 3: You know that, you know, alcoholism travels in your family,
Speaker 3: so therefore that that spirit attaches to that bloodline, you know,
Speaker 3: to the third and fortune generations. So there's lots of.
Speaker 2: It could be, but I think it any Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you're more likely to be something if your
Speaker 2: parents were. I suppose because the normalization of it opens
Speaker 2: that door a little bit more into your you know,
Speaker 2: into your thinking, into your belief system. I guess like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is okay, this is normalized to me. Or even
Speaker 2: if it's something you hated and they're doing awful things
Speaker 2: you don't like, it's still like, oh, this is what
Speaker 2: I was raised with, This is what I know, this
Speaker 2: is what I understand. So people repeat those behaviors because
Speaker 2: of that. But I think, yeah, demonic influence involved, but
Speaker 2: you open yourself up. I think, yeah, things can carry
Speaker 2: on in a way, but you can break the chains
Speaker 2: of your generational curse or whatever it may be, by
Speaker 2: your own deliverance, by your own you know, choice to
Speaker 2: choose salvation and choose Christ personally. I think you can
Speaker 2: break any of that. But I think SRA victims and
Speaker 2: people have had more intense traumas. I think they have
Speaker 2: more legal framework and metaphysical stuff to work around. Sure,
Speaker 2: but not the stuff dandu Vall's talking about, which we
Speaker 2: will get into. So, yeah, these ghosts, they're asking them
Speaker 2: questions like, hey, why are you attached? They'll give them
Speaker 2: a whole story. Sometimes it'll be a past life person
Speaker 2: who they knew and they were obsessed with them that life,
Speaker 2: or hated them and they're now they're attaching them to
Speaker 2: get revenge or because they love them, stuff like that.
Speaker 2: It'll be usually physical desires or obsession with the person
Speaker 2: keeping them here. Half of ghosts are apparently random attachments.
Speaker 2: They just whoopseie fell into your aura, got stuck. The
Speaker 2: other half are people you knew in a past life
Speaker 2: or died in this life and are attached to you
Speaker 2: because they really care about you or really hate you
Speaker 2: or something like that, and they'll give you a whole
Speaker 2: story and justify it. So, like I said, these are
Speaker 2: demons putting on characters and playing putting on narratives so
Speaker 2: that you believe in expansive cosmology that isn't aligned with
Speaker 2: the Bible. So that's so they end up getting rid
Speaker 2: of these attachments. And we'll get we'll get into the
Speaker 2: process in a minute what actually happens and how weird
Speaker 2: it is. But we'll talk about dark force entities for
Speaker 2: a moment, which is the demons that are you know,
Speaker 2: not Biblical demons of course, and you have to metaphysically
Speaker 2: trap them to get them to not run off around
Speaker 2: the spirit realm because they're worried about getting casted out,
Speaker 2: so they they're like, oh, I'm just gonna leave. But
Speaker 2: you've metaphysically trapped them because you're trying to help them now,
Speaker 2: you're trying to send them to the light, right just
Speaker 2: like the ghosts. Yeah, something like that. Oh boy, well
Speaker 2: you're gonna love this, Okay, So to metaphysically trap them, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, keep in mind, this is a vision
Speaker 2: that the patient is seeing in their minds out they're
Speaker 2: seeing all this take place. They're seeing light beings show up.
Speaker 2: You have to call light beings and command them, metaphysically
Speaker 2: activate them by commanding them, and you have to call
Speaker 2: The way he's got his methodology is by channeling spirits
Speaker 2: in the past, and they've taught him what to do.
Speaker 2: They've taught him and said, you need to do this,
Speaker 2: and you call upon this spirit, you need to do this.
Speaker 2: They've taught him most of this, so keep that in mind.
Speaker 2: This is also what Dan du Vall says about his work.
Speaker 2: He says, Jesus and angels taught him his methodology by
Speaker 2: channeling them. Just putting that out there. It's the same thing.
Speaker 2: So we'll get to that later. But he's channeling these spirits.
Speaker 2: They tell him what to do, and something they've told
Speaker 2: him to do was to trap these these dark force entities.
Speaker 2: You have to call upon specific groups of light beings. Okay,
Speaker 2: not angels. I mean they can use that synonymously, but
Speaker 2: it's light beings, angel of light Corinthians. Yeah, there you go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so here I'm not gonna go into every little detail,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to tell you what some of the
Speaker 2: names of the groups he has to call upon, and
Speaker 2: he has a specific process. I'm just summarizing it. But
Speaker 2: some of the spirits he calls on are called There
Speaker 2: is the Warrior Angels of Light, Okay, the Mercy Band
Speaker 2: of Rescue Angels Gay, the Mighty Rescue Spirits of Light,
Speaker 2: Mighty Man. A little bit on the nose, sounding like
Speaker 2: some Biblical words, right, maybe I'm overreaching, but this one's
Speaker 2: very on the nose. The Legions of Light, Now, that's
Speaker 2: just that's just crazy that they went that far. They
Speaker 2: could have avoided using that. It's very on the nose.
Speaker 2: That's perfect, yes, thank you. So, yeah, those are the
Speaker 2: names that they're offering, Legions of Light. You know, Legion
Speaker 2: in the Bible is accustomed to thousands of demon spirits
Speaker 2: connected to one person. That and I have my whole
Speaker 2: thoughts on that thing. But yeah, it's just very on
Speaker 2: the nose. They're really owning the biblical rebrand here, so
Speaker 2: they're always using biblical terms and rebranding them constantly, which
Speaker 2: is weird. Uh So, yeah, so they have to trap
Speaker 2: them by calling upon specific groups of these angels, and
Speaker 2: they will metaphysically trap them in a capsule of light
Speaker 2: and they'll be stuck in it like a little cage.
Speaker 2: And this is visually seen in the mind's eye in
Speaker 2: a vision and a controlled vision. Okay, and they're capable
Speaker 2: of doing this well first episode if you don't believe me.
Speaker 2: So when they're captured, they will still be channeling the
Speaker 2: spirit through the person's mouth even though they're captured in
Speaker 2: this thing, and they will be questioning them. And basically
Speaker 2: what they do is they question them and they tell him, Hey,
Speaker 2: to the demon, you've been lied to about three specific things.
Speaker 2: And once you hear this, oh boy, you're gonna feel
Speaker 2: real stupid. And the therapist this is things he's been
Speaker 2: taught by the light beings. So he then tells them,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read the quote. This is what he tells
Speaker 2: the demons, the dark or sentency entities that he's channeling
Speaker 2: because they're trapped in their upset and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: you got me, dang it. You know, they're just playing
Speaker 2: like they're caught. And then he says the first deception
Speaker 2: in the dark realm is that there is no light
Speaker 2: within the individual being. Once they believe that they are
Speaker 2: under total subjugation by their dark superiors, they are controlled
Speaker 2: by threat of annihilation. The second deception is that they
Speaker 2: can be annihilated, they can be destroyed, they can cease
Speaker 2: to exist. The third deception is that the light will
Speaker 2: harm them, burn them, or destroy them, so of course
Speaker 2: they avoid the light. The dfees are totally controlled by
Speaker 2: threat and fear through these three three deceptions. So now
Speaker 2: we're supposed to feel bad for the demons. They're just
Speaker 2: deceived by their dark superiors. They're told that they have
Speaker 2: to do this or they won't exist. Okay, well that's
Speaker 2: changing the story of how we should view demons. They're
Speaker 2: just victims. Okay. So it's a little victimization of it.
Speaker 2: And once you tell once you tell them this, they
Speaker 2: go huh, no way, what that's crazy. They're like, I've
Speaker 2: been lied to, right, So they're like, dang it, I'm pissed.
Speaker 2: And then to really solidify it because sometimes they're like no,
Speaker 2: no way, you know. And by the way their energy
Speaker 2: they're channeling their dialogue is like an angsty teenager. They
Speaker 2: are not like a calculated, intelligent evil. They're like kind
Speaker 2: of I'm not gonna say they're retarded, but they're like
Speaker 2: an angsty teen the way they act. It's just kind
Speaker 2: of funny to watch their dialogue. But what happens is
Speaker 2: he will then tell them look within yourself, young, and
Speaker 2: you're gonna see a spark of light, like literally metaphysically
Speaker 2: the spirit being. Look inside of your own self however
Speaker 2: that looks, and you will find a literal spark of
Speaker 2: light visualized, and the patient will see this in the
Speaker 2: minds eye of them doing this, and then the demon
Speaker 2: will look within find a spark of light literally, and
Speaker 2: that's to them, this is equaling. Oh, this is my
Speaker 2: connection to source. This means I can't be annihilated. This
Speaker 2: means I actually am one of you guys, a good guy.
Speaker 2: I've just been turned around by this dark realm I'm in.
Speaker 2: That's what they're activating in their understanding. So they see
Speaker 2: this spark of light metaphysically because the person channeling is
Speaker 2: seeing it, and they then transform instantly into an angel
Speaker 2: of light, just like the light beings that rescued and
Speaker 2: trap them. And then they go, look, you're one of us.
Speaker 2: Now come with us to the light. Let's go like
Speaker 2: that's literally I'm joking, but like that's what they do,
Speaker 2: and metaphysically, the person is seeing this in their mind's
Speaker 2: eye vision the whole time, So keep that in mind.
Speaker 3: It's very cabbalistic too, because I recently read Robert Seiffer
Speaker 3: sixteen sixty six and he kind of got into some
Speaker 3: of that stuff, and he was saying that it was
Speaker 3: their belief that you actually had to go into the
Speaker 3: dark and you would basically save the world through sin,
Speaker 3: that you had to do all these debaucherous things because
Speaker 3: God was this light shard, this spark of light, and
Speaker 3: he got busted up throughout the world. But sin even
Speaker 3: got a hold of it and tainted the shard of light.
Speaker 3: So it's our job to go and take it from
Speaker 3: the enemy and cleanse the shards.
Speaker 2: And gotta fight fire with fire. White magic versus black magic,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a it's a it's it's not true. Obviously,
Speaker 2: there's no such thing as white magic, but that's a
Speaker 2: that's the idea they'll push. No, we can fight the
Speaker 2: dark forces, we need to do it with with good forces,
Speaker 2: you know, And it's it's it's all both sides are
Speaker 2: the same. Coin. You know, two sides are the same
Speaker 2: coin like everything else, like Galien dialectic style in our politics.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's what happens. They're metaphysically seeing this
Speaker 2: vision and then they're healed after they go to the light.
Speaker 2: They they're whatever affliction was caused, whether it be some
Speaker 2: spiritual warfare, whether it be UH physical pain even like
Speaker 2: like long time, long standing like medical conditions like UH.
Speaker 2: For example, in past life regression, not spirits, but pass
Speaker 2: life aggression, like they had. They might have had a
Speaker 2: past life memory where they died and in that death
Speaker 2: they had their pancreas clot out by a freaking bear attack,
Speaker 2: and they died that way, and then in their next
Speaker 2: life and their current life they've always had pancreatic problems
Speaker 2: in their anchreous whatever it may be. And then when
Speaker 2: they relive that memory, boom, it's gone and they now
Speaker 2: are healed. So it's it's like real deal, like big
Speaker 2: stuff happening. It's not just like, oh I'm not sad anymore.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's that too, But spiritual warfare will be limited
Speaker 2: because they're going to lay off pressure to make you
Speaker 2: validate the entire process and maybe ease their way back
Speaker 2: in slowly over time whenever. It's if you're not an asset,
Speaker 2: like I said, and that's you know, not it's a
Speaker 2: case by case basis, you know, but it happens. So sorry,
Speaker 2: not really though, but do you have anything for me? Brother?
Speaker 2: I feel like that's right, baby, not anymore though on
Speaker 2: these days fight for the Lord. It's hard to do both.
Speaker 2: Uh so let's see. So yeah, here's where it gets
Speaker 2: really goofy and silly. Okay, and I know it already
Speaker 2: is I know, I know so So in this process
Speaker 2: the William J. Baldwin, the therapist here says in his manual,
Speaker 2: he says is often. He says it a couple of times.
Speaker 2: He says that occasionally you will get fake guides, fake
Speaker 2: light angels that metaphysically show up in your vision that
Speaker 2: are there that are actually demons masking as light eight
Speaker 2: light beings because they're shape shifting, which they can do
Speaker 2: and admittedly, so they're shape shifting in the light beings
Speaker 2: in the vision so that they can take the demon
Speaker 2: that you're trying to rescue, they can take them back
Speaker 2: to the light, so they'll do the whole closing out
Speaker 2: operations the same way and play along, and then they'll
Speaker 2: take you to the dark realm afterwards and be like, ah, gotcha.
Speaker 2: You know that's he says, This can happen several times
Speaker 2: in a row before a real light being can get through. Now,
Speaker 2: if you're calling upon these light beings by metaphysical you
Speaker 2: know commands, why is a demon able to get through
Speaker 2: and mask as this being? And he says this is
Speaker 2: a quote. He says. He says, black and red are
Speaker 2: the signal color for the dfees. The red eyes are
Speaker 2: a dead giveaway. These shape shifters can attempt to impersonate
Speaker 2: a loved one, a helping angel, even the Christ figure
Speaker 2: admittedly impersonate Christ. But he says, but the eyes, the
Speaker 2: windows to the soul, give them away in these false
Speaker 2: guides the df he could hold a normal color for
Speaker 2: no less than a minute. Then the red eyes began
Speaker 2: to show. Now what he's saying is in the mind's
Speaker 2: eye vision, the patients seeing a fake a demon will
Speaker 2: be shape shifted into a light being. And if you
Speaker 2: look into their eyes metaphysically for a minute or so,
Speaker 2: they can't hold their form longer than that. Yes, maybe
Speaker 2: the whole vision is controlled completely, but the beings in
Speaker 2: it can only hold their form for a minute. Which
Speaker 2: is what is happening here is they are putting on
Speaker 2: a false flag show. Theatrics. This entire process is so deceptive.
Speaker 2: Everything about this is fake that they need to throw
Speaker 2: you a bone occasionally so that you cause you might
Speaker 2: be questioning throughout the process. This is too good to
Speaker 2: be true. This is too easy. He even says this,
Speaker 2: like how is this so like easy for me to do?
Speaker 2: He'll say things like that, and he's like, my skepticism
Speaker 2: remains alive, and well, but he is validating the whole
Speaker 2: thing with the visions and with the healing, so it
Speaker 2: just is like, oh, well, it's happening, so it must
Speaker 2: be true now. So they are putting on a show
Speaker 2: and shape shifting in front of them to be like,
Speaker 2: oh you caught us, We're demons actually, oh no, And
Speaker 2: then they get out of there and then boom, another
Speaker 2: fake light being will come through and do the same process.
Speaker 2: He said, sometimes it'll be five or six times in
Speaker 2: a row till a real one gets through. No, this
Speaker 2: is the guy, Okay, no, this is this is the
Speaker 2: other guy. We're gonna get Dan Dan y vall in
Speaker 2: a bit I have to cover the This is groundwork
Speaker 2: because what I'm describing here, this whole process, this whole dynamics,
Speaker 2: the vision, everything happening. This is exactly what Dan Duvall
Speaker 2: does in his practice to heal God. Except he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Except he says he channels through the telepathic connection, not
Speaker 2: through the voice. That's the only difference. And then the
Speaker 2: and then the characters they you know me are different characters,
Speaker 2: sometimes the same because they overlap in some ways. But
Speaker 2: they don't have ghosts because ghosts don't exist in Christian cosmology,
Speaker 2: but aliens can technically because the Bible isn't super strong
Speaker 2: a you know, flatly playing.
Speaker 3: This other guy's practices and all the different things so
Speaker 3: that people see it's the same thing. You see the correlations. Okay, God, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 2: To go in this order. I know it's a Dan
Speaker 2: Duvall thing, but it has to be in this order
Speaker 2: because it will all make sense bigger picture whenever I
Speaker 2: do it this way.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm a big dummy, but I'm glad I I
Speaker 3: asked because the remind being somebody else that was thinking
Speaker 3: the same thing to you. I'm like this, divolp. Yeah
Speaker 3: people see yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's uh, I have to Yeah, I have
Speaker 2: to be thorough here because I mean, maybe I'm being
Speaker 2: overly so, but I find the little details are where
Speaker 2: the money is. You know what I'm saying. Yes, that
Speaker 2: that fake guide thing. He just admitted that they can
Speaker 2: impersonate Jesus Christ, which I already know they do would
Speaker 2: have done in many ways, which means if they can
Speaker 2: impersonate Christ to these New Agers, why would they not
Speaker 2: do it with a Christian You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Because because they say they're seeing Jesus, they say they're
Speaker 2: seeing angels in these visions, just in Dan Duval's work.
Speaker 2: But if they can impersonate Christ to the New Ages,
Speaker 2: why not to you? It's the same idea. So yeah,
Speaker 2: so that fake guid thing is absolutely crazy. It's a
Speaker 2: fake testing the spirit to make you think, oh I
Speaker 2: got it figured out. I see the deception. But really
Speaker 2: they're just throwing you a bone so you feel smart.
Speaker 2: Now continuing on, we got to talk about soul fragments
Speaker 2: and etheric attachments, which these are both present in Dan
Speaker 2: Duval's work. That's pretty much in the same way, I believe,
Speaker 2: So I'm going to read what they are just so
Speaker 2: people understand. This is a quote from Baldwin's work, though
Speaker 2: he says speaking on soul mind fragments soul fragments, he
Speaker 2: says these can be separated from a person and follow
Speaker 2: like a balloon on a string. Metaphysically, of course, a
Speaker 2: mind fragment of a living person can be of another
Speaker 2: living person as an attached entity. A fragment can remain
Speaker 2: in a location of the trauma or an especially joyce event.
Speaker 2: Even the fragment can sometimes be found in a distant location.
Speaker 2: If a fragment occurred in a prior lifetime, the fragment
Speaker 2: might still be back there. Slash then nearly all of
Speaker 2: these fragments can be located and recovered in a therapy session.
Speaker 2: A serious traffic accident, even a narrowly missed collision, can
Speaker 2: cause a fragment to separate and move towards the light,
Speaker 2: assuming it had died, because it has its autonomy, its
Speaker 2: own mind. The shock the emotional impact of the trauma
Speaker 2: on the psyche can lead to a fragmentation of the
Speaker 2: consciousness the soul essence. Fragmentation presents a wide open door
Speaker 2: for any passing entity. If there are literally p is
Speaker 2: missing from the soul essence of the individual and entity
Speaker 2: can easily attach and enter. Now, I'm not saying our
Speaker 2: souls absolutely can't have some level of you know, alter
Speaker 2: creation via trauma trauma based mind control. That people create alters,
Speaker 2: but then they channel those alters, and I think those
Speaker 2: channeled entities are all demons, either utilizing that opening or
Speaker 2: or masking over that fragment. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: believe in soul fragments. I currently don't. I'm open to it.
Speaker 2: People say the Bible says the soul can be shattered,
Speaker 2: or it can be or you need to restore the soul.
Speaker 2: That's what Dan Duvall says to promote this idea. Oh
Speaker 2: the Bible says you need to restore your soul. Well,
Speaker 2: doesn't tell you too, but it's your soul needs restoration.
Speaker 2: Now does that mean literal metaphysical shattering of your actual
Speaker 2: soul or does that mean is that a poetic way
Speaker 2: of saying you need to be healed from an internal
Speaker 2: spiritual place in a way that's poetic more so than literal.
Speaker 2: We cannot assume that is literal their physical am I
Speaker 2: supposed to give it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect, Okay, perfect thank you. It's like, can we
Speaker 2: really assume for sure that is a literal shattering of
Speaker 2: your soul? And if your soul is saturn, if your
Speaker 2: soul is shattered, can you not you know, be saved?
Speaker 2: Like aren't you restored ultimately in Christ? Anyway? Like why
Speaker 2: what does it truly matter? Like all these people are
Speaker 2: functioning with their fragments everywhere? Does it? What does it
Speaker 2: truly do? I think it's a cover for demons, of course,
Speaker 2: when they channel sole fragments of your alters. I don't
Speaker 2: think I believe those are anything but demons. But you know,
Speaker 2: I'm open to the whole younger altar of you cut
Speaker 2: off and being integrated. I actually I don't believe the
Speaker 2: integration thing, because they say you need to integrate these
Speaker 2: these fragments, and you have to ask them to integrate
Speaker 2: with you. Now, if that's a demon masking as a fragment,
Speaker 2: you're asking a demon to consent, consensually integrate with you,
Speaker 2: merge with you deeper. To be fully possessed takes quite
Speaker 2: a bit more consent and more direct knowledge of it somewhat.
Speaker 2: But for these merging and these demonization you're you're asking for,
Speaker 2: it is what I believe is happening now. One example of.
Speaker 3: This always bothered me is like all the extra you know,
Speaker 3: I tell people all the time, I love looking at
Speaker 3: neflhom giants and UFOs all this, you know, Bigfoot, all
Speaker 3: this weird crazy stuff. But it's not detrimental to my
Speaker 3: faith or my soul. The Gospel of Christ is you know.
Speaker 3: That's that's what's important. So I think when we see people,
Speaker 3: in my opinion now, when they talk about, you know,
Speaker 3: doing this type of stuff or certain prayers to the
Speaker 3: counsel of God and you got to say it this way,
Speaker 3: you got to do it so specific, it seems so
Speaker 3: very ritualistic and a cult.
Speaker 2: Why would Jesus want us to do all that exactly?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 3: I mean, our God went to the cross and died
Speaker 3: and his blood was shed for all of us. You're
Speaker 3: saying that that's not enough. I'm like, why why would
Speaker 3: salvation and all these other things be so difficult to
Speaker 3: obtain if he loves you so much? And was the
Speaker 3: cross not enough?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And why are these legal metaphysical commands so specific? And
Speaker 2: then you have to do it as such a like
Speaker 2: person magical cult? It's yeah, no, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 2: white magic, you know, it's it's a it's it's healing.
Speaker 2: So it's good, you know, but it's it's all strategic.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing as reeky and I might touch
Speaker 2: on this later, but like rieki is the same thing
Speaker 2: as SRT material. It's UH. You have to invoke a spirit,
Speaker 2: channel a spirit UH to give you the power, the
Speaker 2: universal consciousness spirit, whatever it may be. You can you
Speaker 2: say the name three times all magically, and then you
Speaker 2: could heal people with your hands. But really you're just
Speaker 2: doing a New Age practice and then the spirit is
Speaker 2: laying off pressure just like in this UH, strategically at
Speaker 2: the right time, so that you believe that you have
Speaker 2: psychic abilities. And I think you can have psychic abilities,
Speaker 2: but they're powering it and really it's just them doing
Speaker 2: all the work, is my point. So one example, by
Speaker 2: the way of because it says a mind fragment of
Speaker 2: a living person can be with another living person as
Speaker 2: an attached entity. An example in one of these books
Speaker 2: is uh in in Baldwin's book is the Mother and
Speaker 2: It's It's a mother and a son. The son comes
Speaker 2: in for a for a spirit releasement therapy, and he
Speaker 2: channels his mother's soul fragment who is currently alive, and
Speaker 2: he's channeling his mother through him, who is saying that
Speaker 2: she is so basically saying she got attached her spirit
Speaker 2: fragment because she was such a helicopter mom, so obsessed
Speaker 2: with her son that this is why he thinks about
Speaker 2: her all the time and is so nervous about her.
Speaker 2: And she's always on his mind because the soul fragment
Speaker 2: of her is connected to him and it's causing this.
Speaker 2: And that's a living person channeling being channeled by a
Speaker 2: living person or is that a demon just telling you
Speaker 2: a story?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 2: What is more likely here? It's just so ridiculous. They're
Speaker 2: trying to do this infinite consciousness connection thing. We're all connected,
Speaker 2: but it's like, how do you channel a living person
Speaker 2: and they not be aware of it. Oh, it's their
Speaker 2: alter it's split off from them. It's stupid. It doesn't
Speaker 2: make any sense. Now, etheric device is I'll get into
Speaker 2: what those are, it says Etheric devices of various forms.
Speaker 2: These can serve various purposes such as control energy, drainage, monitoring,
Speaker 2: or blocking spiritual growth. They are typically non physical, but
Speaker 2: can manifest as physical or psychological symptoms, such as small
Speaker 2: energetic devices often described as crystalline, metallic, or an inorganic
Speaker 2: or organic in appearance and planted in the aura, chakras
Speaker 2: or physical body, used for various reasons, such as the
Speaker 2: controlling of appetites for food, drugs, sexual activity, turning the
Speaker 2: dial up on emotions of choice such as anger or anxiety,
Speaker 2: et cetera. So these are connected from some you know,
Speaker 2: etheric chord to this lab of aliens, and we'll get
Speaker 2: into that in a minute. But this is how they
Speaker 2: channel aliens. But it channels through the voice just like
Speaker 2: a regular attached spirit. Even though it's just an alien
Speaker 2: in a lab speaking through it like a speaker, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, It kind of doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: And what they're doing is they're distancing from entity attachment
Speaker 2: in general here, So now it's not just to worry about.
Speaker 2: Even though they all have the same side effects, then
Speaker 2: you can't tell them apart by side effects. They all
Speaker 2: do the same thing. But it's it's showing. Oh now
Speaker 2: it's technolog technology from aliens too, And there's so many
Speaker 2: aliens out there, so who knows who what group it is?
Speaker 2: And We'll get into the alien stuff more in a
Speaker 2: little bit, but it's pretty uh, it's pretty goofy.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Another thing I'll add is connecting to the first episode
Speaker 2: the astral lore, there is no that I can find.
Speaker 2: There is no admittance of spirit attachments in all of
Speaker 2: astral lore, even though they share the same cosmology. Generally,
Speaker 2: there is no spirit merging with another to live through
Speaker 2: them at all. There's similar concepts, like in Robert Monroe's work,
Speaker 2: he'll go and rescue ghosts who are staying on the
Speaker 2: earth plane, just like these entities who are obsessed with
Speaker 2: people or obsessed with their addictions, and like, for example,
Speaker 2: one guy, this is a funny story. He finds this
Speaker 2: one ghost trying to get in between two actual humans
Speaker 2: having sex, and he doesn't know he's dead, doesn't know
Speaker 2: that they can't see him, even though he's like, why
Speaker 2: can't they see me? I'm trying to bang them. He's like,
Speaker 2: if Holy Tomic can get out the way, I could
Speaker 2: get some And he's trying to bang this girl in
Speaker 2: this three way and it's funny because he's falling through
Speaker 2: the bed onto the floor, but he doesn't fall through
Speaker 2: the floor. And Robert Monroe even says, it's kind of
Speaker 2: weird how he didn't keep falling through the floor because
Speaker 2: they're on an apartment, so it didn't make it. He
Speaker 2: sends to him, it's just it's theatrics, that's why. But anyway,
Speaker 2: it was funny. So he sees this ghost boner literally
Speaker 2: I call it a Google tool or a booner, and.
Speaker 3: He uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he uh he sees this. He sees his
Speaker 2: ghost with his ding dong out trying to bang these people,
Speaker 2: and he's telling him he's dead, and he's like, no way,
Speaker 2: what and you know, he believes him eventually and he
Speaker 2: rescues him. Now here's the thing. This ghost was not
Speaker 2: merging with them, living through their eyes, feeling what they
Speaker 2: feel like everybody in the SRT work. He was outside
Speaker 2: of them, failing to get in between them, failing to
Speaker 2: merge with them. That is what they talk about in
Speaker 2: the astral lore. They don't have anybody merging with anybody else,
Speaker 2: any possession type stuff admitted in the astral lore. And
Speaker 2: I don't know how they can co how those concepts
Speaker 2: they have to overlap, but they're not overlapping. So I
Speaker 2: just think that's an interesting little discrepancy to point out
Speaker 2: because they don't match and they share the same cosmology. Otherwise,
Speaker 2: does that make sense?
Speaker 3: Yep? Sorry, you always asked me a question when I
Speaker 3: go to the single screen and it MutS, no.
Speaker 2: You're good. I just I've been ranting for a while
Speaker 2: and I want to make sure I'm not being rude here. Brother,
Speaker 2: you know how I get.
Speaker 3: You know, you're a good guy like that. The platform
Speaker 3: is yours.
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna get to Dan Duvall in a bit.
Speaker 2: I just I have a couple more things here and
Speaker 2: then we'll go crazy on them, so I guess I
Speaker 2: can skip that one. So okay, So this is a
Speaker 2: big one. This is what I mentioned to earlier, and
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna read the quotes. You know, I'm not
Speaker 2: making stuff up. In Baldwin's manual, he says that when
Speaker 2: a client discovers a disturbing memory, it can be a
Speaker 2: past life personality, though just as often it is the
Speaker 2: traumatic death of an attached entity, saying this is just
Speaker 2: like Karl Wickland stuff. Your past life memories might be
Speaker 2: due to these ghost attachments, not dudes making them up,
Speaker 2: but actual memories of real people who lived in the
Speaker 2: past now, this is telling you. He says, if you
Speaker 2: want to do past life aggression, first, we got to
Speaker 2: do spirit releasement therapy so you can get rid of
Speaker 2: them first. And then once the coast is clear and
Speaker 2: there's no spirits around they're all gone, then we're good
Speaker 2: to go with the past life aggression. Otherwise you're going
Speaker 2: to relive their memory and it's gonna feel like your
Speaker 2: own and you're not going to know the difference because
Speaker 2: it's going to be so powerful and affect you. Now,
Speaker 2: if we can't trust half of past life memories now
Speaker 2: without spirit release with therapy first, uh, what does that
Speaker 2: tell you? Now? It's not compatible with Karl Wicklan stuff
Speaker 2: because they said it's all fake, it's all from them.
Speaker 2: And now these people are saying, no, they're real, but
Speaker 2: they can be fake and not yours. But what I'm
Speaker 2: saying is it's all demonic, fake visions which they can
Speaker 2: download into you because you've consented to divination. Don't do it.
Speaker 2: Don't do it, guys. So I think that's a crazy
Speaker 2: detail that.
Speaker 3: Needs to be I'm just to get old boy, you know.
Speaker 3: But it's like, I know your sounds that complicated.
Speaker 2: It's so exactly people need to know how we need
Speaker 2: to look.
Speaker 3: My you know, sixty six book. Cannon says, I could
Speaker 3: just get on my knees and pray and ask for
Speaker 3: things in the name of Gesus. You know that's that's
Speaker 3: like a stereomanual. I don't I don't need a book
Speaker 3: that thick with word print that smile to figure out
Speaker 3: what I need to do to live a happier, healthy life.
Speaker 3: You know, it says, my God, you're.
Speaker 1: Doing it right.
Speaker 2: B Yeah, And this stuff is ultimately so convoluted on purpose.
Speaker 2: It is so crazy now, but it expands the cosmology
Speaker 2: because they can't. It means, oh, if this is all real,
Speaker 2: if these entities are real, it must mean we don't
Speaker 2: live in the same world the Bible says we live in,
Speaker 2: which is the whole point, and aligning with the astral lore,
Speaker 2: which people can experience themselves, because it's more convincing if
Speaker 2: you experience it yourself, even if it's fake.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: So, another thing, and then we'll go to do then
Speaker 2: we'll get to the alien stuff. Then duvaulf So group
Speaker 2: Ensity releases another thing he talks about, which is absolutely bananas,
Speaker 2: and basically what happens is back when I said how
Speaker 2: demons are taken to the light after they look in
Speaker 2: the spark and find their spark, and then they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm one of you. Now I transform to a light being.
Speaker 2: I hit this earlier, but we're going back to it.
Speaker 2: After they turn into a light being. Before they're taken
Speaker 2: to the light, they want to be helpful that you
Speaker 2: ask them for help, because they want to be a
Speaker 2: home and do some you know, comic balancing for themselves.
Speaker 2: I suppose. So what they do is and the light beings,
Speaker 2: you know, orchestrated this whole idea anyway. But the therapist
Speaker 2: will then ask the transformed demon, who's now like being.
Speaker 2: He will ask them, hey, call upon all your colleagues,
Speaker 2: your peers, your other demons in the dark realm, and
Speaker 2: bring him over. Bring him over here. We're going to
Speaker 2: have a conversation with him, and they will call upon
Speaker 2: as many as they can. Which the higher level of
Speaker 2: a demon you are, the higher on the higherarchy you are,
Speaker 2: the more show up, they say, because they don't really
Speaker 2: respect you if you're below them. So if you get
Speaker 2: a big one, you'll get a lot. Now this is
Speaker 2: all seen in the mind's eye vision keep in mind
Speaker 2: of the patient and they will describe I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: read the quote, he says. According to clients in thousands,
Speaker 2: thousands of sessions over the years, it works as these
Speaker 2: dfees Russian clients describe the scene like a flood of darkness,
Speaker 2: like a river of lava or thick black oil flowing
Speaker 2: toward the light. Each DFE is encapsulated in light, each
Speaker 2: discovers its spark, each transforms in the light. The rescue
Speaker 2: spirits of light transport them to their own place in
Speaker 2: the light. This is an awesome visual image to the
Speaker 2: client in an altered state of consciousness. So they're seeing
Speaker 2: so many frickin' demons show up. It looks like a
Speaker 2: you know, flood of lava. It's like it's got to
Speaker 2: be millions or hundreds of thousands at least and that
Speaker 2: and what they're doing is they have the light angels
Speaker 2: trap all of them. They tell them all to find
Speaker 2: their spark, baby, and then they transform instantly into a bright,
Speaker 2: shining light and they go to the light and they're
Speaker 2: all rescued. So you're exercising millions of people at one
Speaker 2: time through one source.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, does this have to hit this sound for
Speaker 3: that a man ex size.
Speaker 2: Oh this is perfect, Bro, you wild? That's so good? Okay,
Speaker 2: well yeah, but I hope you understand this. This is
Speaker 2: how absolutely bananas it is. And if the vision control
Speaker 2: concept in episode one is true, which is, by the way,
Speaker 2: is proven to be possible, let alone, if not accounting
Speaker 2: for all of this, then this is nothing for them.
Speaker 2: This is very easy. It's all strategy. It's it's building
Speaker 2: a cosmology that's fake with fake visions, and Duval has
Speaker 2: the exact same story, just with different lore that doesn't align.
Speaker 2: So am I making sense here?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 3: Yep, You're you're building the building blocks. I'm eager to
Speaker 3: see the connections because I've even had some people in
Speaker 3: Chad that don't know anything about the Vibe, but they
Speaker 3: said they've been going to his website and they're like, well,
Speaker 3: how does this connect? I'm not seeing it.
Speaker 2: Well, it's the same, it's the same methodology as what
Speaker 2: ultimately but we'll get into that. I have to read
Speaker 2: a few excerpts that are absolutely bananas of CE six
Speaker 2: Close Encounters of the Possession Kind, which is Baldwin the
Speaker 2: other guy, the guy who wrote that manual also wrote
Speaker 2: this book like six or eight years later, in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety eight, I believe, and it is even goofier than
Speaker 2: the first. Now this is all alien lord, this is
Speaker 2: all a theoric tech attachments connecting to ends, and it's
Speaker 2: focused on that and answers that he gleaned from it.
Speaker 2: So I'll just summarize this one, I guess. So he
Speaker 2: talks about how, like I said, he's connecting to them,
Speaker 2: channeling them through these aliens are in a lab, on
Speaker 2: a spaceship or an underground bunker, and these are conversations
Speaker 2: he's having with them through the etheric technological attachments that
Speaker 2: are causing these people harm. And they are doing the
Speaker 2: aliens are doing this, putting these devices on people, they say,
Speaker 2: for research, just just to get data and to mess
Speaker 2: with people's emotions and see what happens. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: uh we're gonna make We're gonna make Jeff all angry.
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, make him hit his wife? Yeah, do that.
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen next? Are they gonna get divorced?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Like what is this data for?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: They don't really say. But on top of that, uh
Speaker 2: he yeah, So I would explain that, he says, Uh,
Speaker 2: the client will visualize a black cord kind of like
Speaker 2: the silver cord of the astral body. He says, they'll
Speaker 2: visualize a black cord connecting to the ET laboratory, and
Speaker 2: they'll travel to the ET laboratory and see it in
Speaker 2: the spirit by metaphysically traveling. Their traveling there instantly, and
Speaker 2: the ET will always be surprised that you're there, and
Speaker 2: they'll answer and speak to you via channeling. So they
Speaker 2: even say this can be surprising and distressing to the client,
Speaker 2: but with assurance that the control is only temporary and
Speaker 2: that people have overcome this intrusion, most continue with the dialogue.
Speaker 2: So they pre consent to channeling, and that's giving. That's
Speaker 2: giving all the consent they need. So yeah, I'll read. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is fun. I'm gonna read. I'm gonna read doctor
Speaker 2: Baldwin's voice, and then I'm gonna read the ET. He's
Speaker 2: channeling in different voices, and I'm gonna sound like a
Speaker 2: retard for a minute, So just keep that in mind.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's it's it might be fun. But in
Speaker 2: this conversation he's about to have h Baldwin is the
Speaker 2: therapist and he is communicating through with these ets through Janet.
Speaker 2: Janet's the girl who's channeling, and she's the patient, and
Speaker 2: she's seeing all this happen, and she is They're basically,
Speaker 2: it's gonna it's just gonna be stupid. Okay, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. Okay. So
Speaker 2: this is Baldwin. He says, how many such memoris of
Speaker 2: the human race have you treated this way? About three thousand.
Speaker 2: This is a violation of an intelligent species. You have
Speaker 2: no right to interfere this way. We did not know
Speaker 2: we were interfering. Drawing from the realm of science fiction,
Speaker 2: I tried to imagine the organization of such a group
Speaker 2: of beings. I took a chance and plunged ahead. Cross
Speaker 2: connect us with your headquarters. We want to speak with
Speaker 2: your high command. A few moments passed and Janet straightened
Speaker 2: in the recliner. Her voice took on a different tone.
Speaker 2: The manner was almost imperious. And this is high command
Speaker 2: now speaking through Janet. They said, where's your manager? And
Speaker 2: here he goes to show up, channeling through the same voice. Yes,
Speaker 2: what is it you want? Your science is a place
Speaker 2: probes and three thousand human beings without consent. Yes, they
Speaker 2: are gathering data. You are gathering data from unwilling subjects.
Speaker 2: Aren't you aware of the concept of non interference. There
Speaker 2: is not to be interference with another sentient species. Yes,
Speaker 2: we are aware. We did not mean to interfere, only
Speaker 2: to gather data. We are a sentient species. We protest
Speaker 2: this intrusion. What would you like us to do? We
Speaker 2: request that you would draw the probes from every human
Speaker 2: being on this planet. This was a request, not a demand.
Speaker 2: I had nothing to enforce such a demand. There was
Speaker 2: some hesitation as if they were There was a discussion
Speaker 2: being carried on in the background. My skeptical mind asks,
Speaker 2: if any of this were true, why do they talk
Speaker 2: to me? And why would they be willing to do
Speaker 2: what I ask? These questions are always with me in
Speaker 2: altered state sessions, my skepticism remains alive, and well, okay, bro,
Speaker 2: I believe you, Yeah, totally do you. This is a
Speaker 2: straight transcript from one of his first sessions with aliens.
Speaker 2: That is exactly what went down. They're actually pretty nice guys.
Speaker 2: They just do whatever you ask, and they give up
Speaker 2: their entire huge interplanetary interdimensional project just because you politely
Speaker 2: asked for them to leave. Is that not crazy to you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he totally didn't even have to pull the
Speaker 3: Adam Sandler girlfriend be it, you know, who needs you.
Speaker 3: And then he'd be like, I'm sorry, baby, I didn't
Speaker 3: mean that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Like that's how it should have went down
Speaker 2: if this was a real conversation. But it's it's just
Speaker 2: too good to be true. And I hope, I hope
Speaker 2: my voices made it a little fun. But oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was laughing and well in the audiobook, it's even
Speaker 2: I use even crazier voices because they're.
Speaker 3: Not my own authoritativeness.
Speaker 2: You know, we.
Speaker 3: Will remove our probes.
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta you gotta put some some spice
Speaker 2: into it so people are entertained, you know, otherwise they'll
Speaker 2: get bored. So yeah, uh, we got we got a
Speaker 2: couple more of these alien quotes because they're kind of
Speaker 2: they're just revealing a to what deception is taking place here.
Speaker 2: So another one is I call this no, I'm literally
Speaker 2: your space brother. Uh, and the quote says it's I
Speaker 2: suspected an attached entity. Her tears finally subsided and an
Speaker 2: entity was able to speak through Carla's voice. It claimed
Speaker 2: to be her brother in another existence in another planet
Speaker 2: and another solar system and another dimension. He followed her
Speaker 2: to the system when she chose to come to the
Speaker 2: planet Earth to incarnate. He did not want to endure
Speaker 2: the whole process of becoming a human in his own
Speaker 2: body as she had done. He had bypassed that step.
Speaker 2: Now he wanted her to withdraw so he could live
Speaker 2: through her body, or at least move a side so
Speaker 2: she so he could take over. With very little explanation.
Speaker 2: He realized the harm he was doing to his sister,
Speaker 2: whom he loved. Yet what to dominate in the chauvinistic manner,
Speaker 2: that's all it is. As he recounted their life on
Speaker 2: their home planet in a distant space and time, reliving
Speaker 2: a past life memory with her, Carla also recalled the
Speaker 2: love they had shared there and began to weep again,
Speaker 2: this time for the joy of the memory and the
Speaker 2: sadness over the loss. This was an effect a dual
Speaker 2: past life aggression, both beings remembering the same prior existence
Speaker 2: on another planet. So he's just a good old brother
Speaker 2: of hers, and he just you know, wants to live
Speaker 2: through her body. And heard him put her consciousness and
Speaker 2: put it down so he can take over her body.
Speaker 2: That's not weird and creepy, but and not what a
Speaker 2: demon would do, absolutely not. But with very little explanation,
Speaker 2: they go, this is kind of weird, dude, you shouldn't
Speaker 2: be doing this, and he goes, you know what, You're right,
Speaker 2: and then he impresses a vision upon her of their
Speaker 2: past life memory on another alien planet together where they
Speaker 2: loved each other, and she gets an intuitive download of
Speaker 2: I love this. I love this. Guy's my brother. I
Speaker 2: love him, and she now feels this in her knowing
Speaker 2: while experiencing a visualization of it. And now she's crying
Speaker 2: and she's like, I love you. I'm sorry this had
Speaker 2: to happen, but you have to leave now. But it's okay.
Speaker 2: I forgive you like it's you. This is a demon obviously,
Speaker 2: and you just apologize to them and told them that
Speaker 2: you're all cool with it, So you're not protecting yourself
Speaker 2: from any further intrusion, by the way, when you do that.
Speaker 2: So that's just a little fun story. And another one
Speaker 2: I'm gonna summarize because it's long. It basically is he's
Speaker 2: doing this regression instead of a spirit releasement therapy specifically,
Speaker 2: he's doing an abduction memory recovery, which you know, we'll
Speaker 2: not get into it now, but I think a lot
Speaker 2: of them are real, and a lot of them are
Speaker 2: fake and can be controlled, and that's for disinformation purposes,
Speaker 2: but they align enough with the real one so they
Speaker 2: don't seem fake. So this one's fake for sure. And
Speaker 2: he's having this girl relive her abduction memory, which she
Speaker 2: might be an abductee too, but this memory is not real,
Speaker 2: and she's in a craft and there's an alien and
Speaker 2: she's seeing this all happen. She's relaying what she's seeing
Speaker 2: to him in this non autonomous memory that she's reliving,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, he said, hey, wait
Speaker 2: a minute, I have an idea. Try try try talking
Speaker 2: to him, talk to him in the memory. Can you
Speaker 2: talk to him? And she goes, okay, I'll try it,
Speaker 2: and then she does, and she has autonomy in this memory.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it activates autonomy, and now she's
Speaker 2: speaking to this alien, and now he's channeling the alien
Speaker 2: from the past in a memory. Now in the whole
Speaker 2: metaphysical time travel, it's all there's no time theory, and
Speaker 2: like the Ashle stuff, you could say, oh, well, this
Speaker 2: always was gonna happen in the future, so it happened
Speaker 2: in the past, and this always happened, and that's how
Speaker 2: it kind of they kind of excuse it. Oh, you
Speaker 2: were gonna do this, so it happened. I don't really
Speaker 2: love that logic. It doesn't make sense to me. Time
Speaker 2: travels faking gay if you ask me, But it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's what they say. So she talks to this alien
Speaker 2: in the past and he agrees to deactivate her implant
Speaker 2: and says, yeah, but you got to come back on
Speaker 2: the ship if you want me to remove it. Okay,
Speaker 2: Like that's a good idea, and she said she is
Speaker 2: going to think about it. She'll She's like, oh, I'll
Speaker 2: get back to you on that. So she almost gave
Speaker 2: consent to get more abductions by the way, which she
Speaker 2: might have still already done. But it's just crazy, and
Speaker 2: Baldwin doesn't see that as sketchy at all. He's like, well,
Speaker 2: she'll figure that out on her own time, but we'll
Speaker 2: drop that whole conversation. He doesn't see this as this
Speaker 2: could be a deception here. He doesn't even mention the
Speaker 2: possibility of that. By the way. So that's crazy, and
Speaker 2: we're gonna read two more and there. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: a little long, but it's it's very, very insightful and
Speaker 2: insane and nightmare fuel. So in a moment. So this
Speaker 2: one I call Southern hospitality is universal, and it says
Speaker 2: we always seek to connect to the highest ranking leader,
Speaker 2: the commander in chief, the space commander, the crew leader,
Speaker 2: or the science officer can be summoned, summoned and he
Speaker 2: will respond. This always surprises me. Why do they bother
Speaker 2: to answer my questions? Lines of communications seem to exist
Speaker 2: between all members of this alien bureocracy. As they speak,
Speaker 2: the client can repeat the words in our language. They
Speaker 2: may reveal that they are under orders of a part
Speaker 2: of a fleet of several such craft on similar missions
Speaker 2: around Earth. They can ross connect us with the deep
Speaker 2: space station base headquarters on their homeworld, or their ruling body,
Speaker 2: whether it is a military cabal or civilian council. The
Speaker 2: client can repeat the words of the alien leaders as
Speaker 2: they respond. In an altered state, this kind of channeling
Speaker 2: is easily accomplished. In a number of these cases, the
Speaker 2: base commander has acknowledged the intrusion and agreed to remove
Speaker 2: the technician, the technicians, the equipment, the probes, communication devices, implants,
Speaker 2: et cetera. They seem eager to do this and offer
Speaker 2: an apology for the interference, often a request for forgiveness
Speaker 2: and a hearty thank you for the new awareness regarding
Speaker 2: their fruitless research efforts. A bunch of nice dudes. These
Speaker 2: aliens I didn't have. I had no idea. They were
Speaker 2: so reasonable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that is the whole problem with aliens.
Speaker 2: Your soundbird is crazy. Man. You have all these locked
Speaker 2: and loaded.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's that's part one, and then the next power
Speaker 2: is even more insane. And it just bear with me here.
Speaker 2: So it says the technician simply turns up the volume
Speaker 2: on some aspect of human emotion or behavior and reques
Speaker 2: wards what happens with the human subject. This behavior or
Speaker 2: emotional outburst causes anguish in the human This is the
Speaker 2: desired result. The anguish is the underlying goal of the project.
Speaker 2: The energy emanation of the anguish, of the human suffering
Speaker 2: is harvested by the dfees. It is used as energy. Yeah, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: we're gonna get there. It is used as energy, sustenance, food,
Speaker 2: It seems to be it seems to be the experiment
Speaker 2: is a cover for the activity of the dfs, because
Speaker 2: he's telling you in a moment, the DFS are attached
Speaker 2: to these aliens, and they're attached to the home worlds
Speaker 2: of the aliens, and they are actually guiding the aliens.
Speaker 2: So it's saying aliens are demonic, but not biblical demons.
Speaker 2: But it's admitting to you coming close to the truth
Speaker 2: that aliens are demonic, but they're more like the arkons
Speaker 2: wanting your loose. They just want your energy, they just
Speaker 2: want your resources. It's not about guiding your soul away
Speaker 2: from Christ and from salvation and dooming your soul, and no,
Speaker 2: it's about energy resources. That's all it is. So it's
Speaker 2: not that nefarious. That is the gnostic story. That is
Speaker 2: what the astral shit teaches. It is the same idea.
Speaker 2: But they're now admitting that DfES lower actional entities, demons,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call them. They're admitting that they
Speaker 2: are the source for this entire operation, which is closer
Speaker 2: to the truth than anybody else, yet still a deception.
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy that they are willing to give you
Speaker 2: that kind of limited hangout?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean that's what they do. They'll give
Speaker 3: you a powerful truth, but wrapped in four pretty lies.
Speaker 3: You know, you got to dig thing exactly lies to the.
Speaker 2: Truth exactly and keeping I'm gonna keep reading this, but
Speaker 2: keep in mind, after these sessions, these people are healed
Speaker 2: of their ailments caused by the alien etheric tech attachments.
Speaker 2: This is the same thing Duval does with visions and
Speaker 2: with communication with entities, and they put on a different
Speaker 2: story or similar stories, often depending on where the lore goes.
Speaker 2: So it is the same We're going to get to
Speaker 2: the details, but it's the same thing. So he also
Speaker 2: says they will They will usually divulge information that a
Speaker 2: high dark being who controls their people. A client will
Speaker 2: usually describe a sinister and menacing dark figure on the craft,
Speaker 2: visualized clearly exerting powerful control, always situated near the ship's captain.
Speaker 2: The et technician is usually unaware of the dark influence.
Speaker 2: The commander of the spacecraft is conscious of the dark presence,
Speaker 2: and only about half of such cases. The ruling council
Speaker 2: members on the home world are aware of the dark
Speaker 2: lords in charge at various levels. They acknowledge that they
Speaker 2: or their predecessors in the Council struck an alliance with
Speaker 2: the Dark Forces long ago. Sound familiar for the purpose
Speaker 2: of gaining personal and political power, However, that's believable. However,
Speaker 2: once that dark contract was established, the DFS took power
Speaker 2: of the Council. The dfs assume ownership of the alien
Speaker 2: civilization and there is nothing that could be done about it.
Speaker 2: The Council members usually range from three to eleven in number.
Speaker 2: The ones it was reported a senate of eighteen hundred.
Speaker 2: Members are grateful for the assistance in separating themselves and
Speaker 2: their citizens from the DFS. With the assistance of many
Speaker 2: light beings, we facilitate the total removal of the dfs
Speaker 2: from the lowliest DFE to the attached et technician, through
Speaker 2: the dark lords on the craft and the high level
Speaker 2: dark beings wielding power over the Council members and overseers
Speaker 2: or enforcers who lurked behind the scenes. After the release
Speaker 2: of dfs from their civilization, the Council gladly orders the
Speaker 2: removal of implants, monitors, communication devices, various and dissorted headbands
Speaker 2: and skull caps, and the et technicians. They ordered the
Speaker 2: return of all the craft orbiting this home world and
Speaker 2: any other and the space stations involved in this hideous project.
Speaker 2: A tremendous piece of works is completed in a very
Speaker 2: short time. The effect on consciousness cannot be measured. Now,
Speaker 2: he just told you he's exercises entire planets in one session,
Speaker 2: dozens of times without fail. Entire planets. Now, how are
Speaker 2: we still getting abductions in all these people with these attachments?
Speaker 2: If you haven't gotten rid of them all by now?
Speaker 2: How many alien species are doing this exact same project?
Speaker 2: You've done it dozens to dozens of planets? How many
Speaker 2: are doing this? Because it's not ended?
Speaker 1: So is that not? Do you think?
Speaker 2: You give me some thoughts, bro?
Speaker 3: And if it is true, why not start on your
Speaker 3: own home planet first?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like, bro, what that is the biggest hole in this
Speaker 2: whole thing. If you could do whole planets at once,
Speaker 2: why have you not gotten your own? It doesn't make
Speaker 2: make any sense. And it's the same story on every
Speaker 2: one of these planets because there's witnesses planet Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: exactly right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people can give testimony on it. Man. But hey,
Speaker 3: you know he's telling everybody just to back off.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm a scientist, yeah, man, uh so, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: the end of the other stuff. We're now on Duval finally.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your patience, guys. But I swear like
Speaker 2: the it's the same practice, just different concepts coming out
Speaker 2: or ways. Yeah, but often similar in various ways, but
Speaker 2: they don't align. So I did get my burp out. Okay,
Speaker 2: So we got to start with I want to say,
Speaker 2: because I forgot to mention earlier that you know, I'm
Speaker 2: not just coming after Duval for any other reason other
Speaker 2: than he is getting popular. Not everybody knows him. But
Speaker 2: he has over ten thousand doors, he claims as of
Speaker 2: a few months ago, in deliverance practice himself, let alone
Speaker 2: the people he's trained. He has I think eighteen trainers,
Speaker 2: and I don't mean anything when I say this, but
Speaker 2: just a coincidence. Sixteen out of nineteen of his trainers
Speaker 2: are women. Putting it out there doesn't matter. So I
Speaker 2: love you ladies anyway. So he's training hundreds more now
Speaker 2: like the trainers are training collectively hundreds and soon to
Speaker 2: be over a thousand, he says. Now, the trickle down
Speaker 2: effect from all these people getting into work with this
Speaker 2: is not going to be good. It's going to be
Speaker 2: very bad. And the word of mouth. With all these
Speaker 2: successful healings are going to be traveling so fast, it's
Speaker 2: going to be a big It's going to aid the
Speaker 2: Great deception greatly. So I feel the need to get
Speaker 2: onto this man respectfully. Dan, I love you, I pray
Speaker 2: for you. I hope you come to our side and
Speaker 2: join the team. But if you don't, that's not good.
Speaker 2: So I really, I really need people understand this is
Speaker 2: the same thing. So, okay, I gotta just get into it.
Speaker 2: I gotta get into it. Okay. So one thing he
Speaker 2: talks about is the cosmic soul trafficking cartel. Now he's
Speaker 2: talking about soul fragments, not entire souls, And here is
Speaker 2: a quote of him talking about it. He says, we
Speaker 2: kept getting stories about soul parts that were pulled from
Speaker 2: out of body, put on a cosmic trade route and
Speaker 2: traffic to these realms, and we're having to go to
Speaker 2: these locations in the spirit world in the vision, in
Speaker 2: the mind's I vision with Jesus who he sees in
Speaker 2: the vision and breaks soul parts, spirit fragments out of dungeons, prisons, laboratories,
Speaker 2: and glass containers and all kinds of stuff, and people
Speaker 2: are getting set free and delivered and now they can sleep,
Speaker 2: and now their finances are working. That's a verbatim quote
Speaker 2: from his Deep End appearance. He has five appearances. That
Speaker 2: is from the Dark Side of Deliverance episode at fifty
Speaker 2: five minutes thirty seconds. If you don't believe me, so,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to offer time stands for all of them,
Speaker 2: but they're all verbatim quotes. So he's saying in the
Speaker 2: spirit world, as in the mind's eye vision of the patient,
Speaker 2: the inner world, he calls it. So it's the same
Speaker 2: concept as what these people are going through, and it's
Speaker 2: ending in a healing.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's almost like the Gnostic teaching of the Secret.
Speaker 3: What do they call that? Manifestation? Like you you think
Speaker 3: about it first and then you manifest it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're really just telepathically telling demons what you want
Speaker 2: and then they are going to try to fulfill it
Speaker 2: on your behalf and so that you believe that you
Speaker 2: did it yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But what did you say, Kyle, just from that
Speaker 3: book and movie The Secret, Well.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm you're saying manifestation, But is there like
Speaker 2: another layer you're talking about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll come to me, all right, one.
Speaker 2: It hits let me know, but yeah, he says a
Speaker 2: few more things on it. He says some of them
Speaker 2: are like talking about the places he goes to find
Speaker 2: these soul fragments. He says, some of them are like
Speaker 2: concentration camps. We have found soul fragments that have been
Speaker 2: trafficked to mining operations off planet. He also says rings
Speaker 2: of Saturn often and Oryan and pleatees. That's where they're
Speaker 2: trafficked to, to these alien colonies. The mining operations off
Speaker 2: planet is directly a correlation to Secret Space Program lore
Speaker 2: which if you want my explanation on that whole deception,
Speaker 2: that's part three material. But the Secret Space Program loreer,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, is just the same thing, fabricated memories
Speaker 2: and planted into people for disimation purposes, and it aligns
Speaker 2: with that very gnostic type of low Secret Space Program
Speaker 2: is very gnostic in its cosmology. So it's it's bridging
Speaker 2: the two worlds here effortlessly. He also says this is
Speaker 2: on his latest Deep End appearance. He says, we found
Speaker 2: fragments of people's spirit on board craft operated by the
Speaker 2: Galactic Federation. Okay, so the Galactic Federation are real again. Okay,
Speaker 2: I thought that was disproved a while ago, but now
Speaker 2: the Christians believe in it. Okay, Well, that's very interesting.
Speaker 2: And everybody laughed when he said that it was in
Speaker 2: a big audience. It's a clip from an audience show,
Speaker 2: and he laughs too, and then he just nervously scarce
Speaker 2: by the subject and doesn't talk about it again. But
Speaker 2: he says Galactic Federation a couple times that I've caught
Speaker 2: him u and he believes it's real. So now we
Speaker 2: are going to I'm about to need that time stamp
Speaker 2: from the video in a minute, but I'll let you
Speaker 2: know when, but I'll remind you, yeah, yeah, and then
Speaker 2: we can use the bathroom if we want, because I might.
Speaker 2: But he is also talking about councils, and the video
Speaker 2: I played from last episode was a summary, kind of
Speaker 2: really funny, goofy video of him talking about various councils,
Speaker 2: the Council of Ascended Masters, he talks about Council of Reptilians,
Speaker 2: Council of Octopus, Council from the Water Kingdom of course,
Speaker 2: Council from Alternate Crazy, Council from Alternate Earth. He believes
Speaker 2: in alternate earths and timelines, that's interesting. I didn't know
Speaker 2: that was biblical. And then he ends with the Council
Speaker 2: of Scotland. I thought that was funny, but I don't
Speaker 2: put that in the video. Just very out out of
Speaker 2: nowhere anyway.
Speaker 3: Like was it that said, uh, he forgot marrow or something.
Speaker 2: The bone marrow. No, we're getting there. We're good. They'll
Speaker 2: skip d or that's in the video, that's in the
Speaker 2: that's in the prayer. We're getting to okay, But yeah,
Speaker 2: that one's funny. So yeah, so he talks about he
Speaker 2: has like sixty or eighty councils he names before he
Speaker 2: does his full prayer, and we're not going to go
Speaker 2: through that in the prayer. I'm gonna play in a minute,
Speaker 2: but we'll play other goofy part from the same exact
Speaker 2: video that oh in the video that's from is how
Speaker 2: to Challenge Evil Counsels with Dan Duvall.
Speaker 1: Look that up.
Speaker 2: If you want to watch the second half of that video,
Speaker 2: you will hear the craziest stuff you've ever heard in
Speaker 2: your life. But before I get that, he says, this
Speaker 2: is a quote of his. He says, there are usually
Speaker 2: councils of three or five or nine, and then the
Speaker 2: sixty other crazy ones. We didn't name behind these things,
Speaker 2: giving them governmental authority. So instead of renouncing individual things,
Speaker 2: we started renouncing whole councils, asking what councils are overseeing
Speaker 2: this activity. Some evil councils worked for Dharpa or three
Speaker 2: letter agencies or Satanic groups. Sometimes it was a spiral
Speaker 2: council of ascended masters. I didn't know you could be
Speaker 2: an as sended master in a Christian cosmology. That's weird,
Speaker 2: he says. Once we started to address the councils, the
Speaker 2: governing bodies, we started to see major breakthroughs in people.
Speaker 2: So it's like a legality thing. He's addressing councils who
Speaker 2: are overseeing the demonic harassment because they got authority through
Speaker 2: the council, not because you're sinning and metaphysically opening the door,
Speaker 2: but because counsels approved it, which is explaining a lot
Speaker 2: of it, which is kind of dumb. So I want
Speaker 2: you to play that video in a of This is
Speaker 2: gonna be a few minutes of his prayers, and I'm
Speaker 2: using my audiobook which is free on YouTube and Spotify.
Speaker 2: Check it out. Spirit Realm Shananig. Spirit Realm Shananigan's exclamation
Speaker 2: exclamation mark the audiobook exclamation mark. That's where you find it,
Speaker 2: separated by chapter. And this is at two hours, nine
Speaker 2: minutes and ten seconds of part of chapter three, and
Speaker 2: whenever you're ready play it, and you can end it
Speaker 2: around two hours eleven minutes, fifty seven second renunciation.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm a two minutes.
Speaker 2: Not two hours nine minutes. Uh yeah, ten seconds, or
Speaker 2: it can be close to that.
Speaker 7: You know language.
Speaker 2: This is the narrator voice of the main book.
Speaker 7: You're about to witness maximum buffoon read in its most
Speaker 7: potent form.
Speaker 2: I'll be right back.
Speaker 7: Awesome key excerpts further.
Speaker 8: In Heaven, I come boldly before your throne of grace
Speaker 8: to find mercy and grace, to help in time of need.
Speaker 8: I enter into your gates with thanksgiving, and I enter
Speaker 8: into your courts with praise. HI hide myself in Christ Jesus.
Speaker 8: And from this secret place I perform this renunciation and divorce.
Speaker 7: I command that every negative decision.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, gays, I missed that up. That's trying to
Speaker 3: turn the volume up and click somewhere else. I apologize.
Speaker 7: Coinciding story line is playing out the etheric alien tech
Speaker 7: connected via black.
Speaker 3: Call there you go. It's a little louder kin to the.
Speaker 7: Astral body's silver cord found on the astral back. Apparently,
Speaker 7: these etheric energy connections foster the ability for any entity
Speaker 7: in the lab to channel through it whenever prompted, as
Speaker 7: well as instantly, I suppose metaphysically transferring the call so
Speaker 7: to speak to whoever you want. Wow, just excuse me,
Speaker 7: where is your manager? And you'll instantly be transferred to
Speaker 7: the craft Commander, the High Council of the Home World,
Speaker 7: space presidents, et cetera. They all have each other's number,
Speaker 7: I guess, and somehow are always available when requested. How
Speaker 7: accommodating They of course answered just about any question he has,
Speaker 7: ranging slightly in helpfulness or attitude, but almost always being
Speaker 7: compliant and revealing. It makes sense that maintaining somewhat of
Speaker 7: a range of personalities would feel more legitimate than otherwise,
Speaker 7: but the variations seem minimal. Where Weddering, the end result
Speaker 7: is always the same. Baldwin provides many.
Speaker 3: Transcripts part.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, wait, what are are we at now?
Speaker 3: I'd messed up because I went to because I don't
Speaker 3: know for some reason, when I go get my little
Speaker 3: pointer over my window instead of bringing up the bar,
Speaker 3: I have to click it. And when I click it,
Speaker 3: of course it moves it on the timeline.
Speaker 2: It's weird because we started out the right place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it was so low, nobody could hear it.
Speaker 2: So I try to Yeah, two hours, nine minutes, ten seconds.
Speaker 3: Sorry, No, that was my mess up it That's true, Hey,
Speaker 3: easy for cares nine minutes.
Speaker 7: It shows the renunciation and confrontation language used, warning you're
Speaker 7: about to witness maximum buffoonery in its most potent form.
Speaker 7: Here are some key excerpts further.
Speaker 8: In heaven, I come boldly before your throne of grace
Speaker 8: to find mercy and grace, to help in time of need.
Speaker 8: I enter into your gates with thanksgiving, and enter into
Speaker 8: your courts with praise. HI hide myself in Christ Jesus,
Speaker 8: and from this secret place I perform this renunciation and divorce.
Speaker 8: I command that every gate, frequency, barrier, equation, cloaking device,
Speaker 8: force field, sacred geometry, DNA matrix, apex of time formula,
Speaker 8: defensive protocol, and any other form of unholy technology that
Speaker 8: would otherwise hinder progress, conceal ungodly agents, agendas, and slash
Speaker 8: or activities in relation to this renunciation and divorce of
Speaker 8: Blank would be deactivated, disengage and moved out of the way,
Speaker 8: including all connected bombs, trip wires, and booby trapped.
Speaker 7: Apex of time really had me shitting for real. Duval
Speaker 7: then continues with renouncing connections.
Speaker 8: I renounce my tethering too, overlaying and interfacing with and
Speaker 8: all existence as the group and all portals that are
Speaker 8: the group and all associated gates, pads, channels, forces, genetic
Speaker 8: and cellular anchoring, data packets, ungodly d NA strands, bone
Speaker 8: marrow assignments, blood, plasma markers, meridian lines, chakras, energy signatures,
Speaker 8: neural lace, all related powers of darkness, quantum technologies, over
Speaker 8: souls and any other type of malevolent being.
Speaker 7: Shoot. I was worried he was gonna forget the bone
Speaker 7: marrow that one's major follow the calling for judgment.
Speaker 8: I now co for every algorithm or formula created from
Speaker 8: the listeners, DNA and genetic material that is projected throughout
Speaker 8: the group to be shut down in every age, realm, dimension, frequency, vibration,
Speaker 8: and timeline past, present and future to infinity. I command
Speaker 8: the immediate apprehension of all hybrids and every cosmic artificial
Speaker 8: intelligence and technology behind those projections and call for viruses
Speaker 8: encoded with heavenly algorithms to be uploaded into them and
Speaker 8: their computers in order to destroy them. In judgment, I
Speaker 8: cursed their computers with a curse of non existence.
Speaker 7: Got them take that, and that.
Speaker 2: That's pretty you can end it there. It's it's just
Speaker 2: more that he did forget one and I watch, that's see,
Speaker 2: that's why these people aren't all all really fixed. Man,
Speaker 2: he's got I get the right characters. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 2: that's what he prays like in these healing sessions. He
Speaker 2: renounces things and he lists long, long, long list of things.
Speaker 2: And I just gave you a little smidgeon of it.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot more. And I didn't know
Speaker 2: the Bible was asking us to do these things and
Speaker 2: talk about the apex of time and to infinity and
Speaker 2: for a kid one marrow. I didn't know that we
Speaker 2: had to do that. If that's so important, why didn't
Speaker 2: we really get it any instruction from this from Jesus.
Speaker 2: I thought, we just pray to Jesus, you know what.
Speaker 2: It's just ridiculous stuff that people don't know. That's what
Speaker 2: he actually does. But the reason he came to these
Speaker 2: conclusions to do all this was because he channeled Jesus
Speaker 2: and angels, which is what we're talking about right now.
Speaker 2: They gave him his large parts of his methodology, just
Speaker 2: like Baldwin learned large parts of his methodology from not
Speaker 2: just trial and error, but from these entities telling him
Speaker 2: to do it. This is a Now what this is
Speaker 2: a verbatim quote of his off of Deep End The
Speaker 2: Battle for Human Soul's episode, and this is him relaying
Speaker 2: a conversation he had, So it's his verbatim of a
Speaker 2: conversation he had with Jesus in the past. And he
Speaker 2: says he's he's talking to Jesus, channeling Jesus, and he
Speaker 2: doesn't call it channeling. And he says, uh is Phil,
Speaker 2: which is the patient's alter that he's speaking Jesus through
Speaker 2: the Phil who he's been channeling. Is Phil actually a
Speaker 2: part of this person's identity? Like is this an altar
Speaker 2: I've been talking to for these months or is this
Speaker 2: somebody else? And Jesus says no, and he says it's Phil,
Speaker 2: an angel. And Jesus says, yes, you mean to tell
Speaker 2: me I've been getting dynamics of programming alters and how
Speaker 2: to address certain issues explain to me over months by
Speaker 2: an angel. After that, I started to meet many more
Speaker 2: and other people that I would sit down would have
Speaker 2: different angels that would come forward. So once you get one,
Speaker 2: then they just start popping up out everywhere and they
Speaker 2: all just knew them and they were like, yeah, we're
Speaker 2: gonna help you out with this whole healing process. And
Speaker 2: he learned it over many months by channeling an angel,
Speaker 2: and Jesus confirmed it, so you know it's true. That's
Speaker 2: what he claims.
Speaker 3: Isn't that a daisy?
Speaker 2: Right? I don't know if you have any thoughts there,
Speaker 2: but I got plenty more to hit whenever you're ready.
Speaker 3: No, I mean it's kind of like you'd said, it's
Speaker 3: almost like spiritual permission or like you know, vampiarism. You know,
Speaker 3: the m pier can't come and unless you invite it.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like a you know, that's the uh,
Speaker 3: what's the seventh day at ventist or Jehovah witness knocking
Speaker 3: at the door. You know, yeah, you see, yeah, let
Speaker 3: him come in and get a drink of water. Next thing,
Speaker 3: you know, you uh, you're on that list and everybody
Speaker 3: starts pouring in.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, and uh, well, you know it's like
Speaker 2: they just once they have a new concept in the
Speaker 2: mind of the asset that they're trying to coax into
Speaker 2: this frame of mind in this new framework and evolve
Speaker 2: their cosmology. Uh, then you can start introducing a lot
Speaker 2: of things, which is what he says about preademic memories,
Speaker 2: which we'll get into that in a bit. But you know,
Speaker 2: he says, once he had his predemic memory boom, he
Speaker 2: can access all everybody else's instantly, and he thinks God
Speaker 2: is like God is like playing it out for him
Speaker 2: in this sequential order, so he can handle it, but
Speaker 2: orts demons manipulating him.
Speaker 3: Obviously, somebody said in the chat, I can't remember who
Speaker 3: it is. Forgive me. If you guys are still here,
Speaker 3: give me a shout out in the chat. I'll give
Speaker 3: you a recommendation there because it was your idea. But
Speaker 3: somebody in the chat earlier when he was talking about
Speaker 3: this stuff said it sounded a lot like Joseph Smith.
Speaker 3: And now that they're interest when we got to that
Speaker 3: part of it, I was like the preademic thing because
Speaker 3: what they believe is, you know, God is on this
Speaker 3: other planet, and he has all these consorts, and he
Speaker 3: has sex with all these consorts, and they produce these
Speaker 3: spirit babies. And these spirit babies are you know, drowning
Speaker 3: out in heaven. It's you know, it's all asshole and
Speaker 3: elbows to them. So they need to make ring. So
Speaker 3: his people are commanded to breed as much as possible.
Speaker 3: That's why they tell him to get multiple wide and
Speaker 3: have such big families because God is up there at
Speaker 3: another planet reproducing at such a rate that he can't
Speaker 3: you know, provide for his spirit family. So therefore he
Speaker 3: needs to get some adoption going on into planet Earth.
Speaker 2: And what's and what's God's supposed to do? Just slow
Speaker 2: down and stop banging all these hot women Like na,
Speaker 2: he's God, He's gonna do what he wants to do
Speaker 2: as he should. There's no way to slow that train down.
Speaker 2: So you gotta expand in the universe, of course. But yeah,
Speaker 2: another thing Dan talks about, which is problematic in my opinion.
Speaker 4: Is.
Speaker 2: Soul fragments, alters of yourself. Like let's say you're traumatized
Speaker 2: as a six year old from whatever happened, some really
Speaker 2: bad stuff, and you're so traumatized to your soul fragment
Speaker 2: splits off at that moment, and it is a It'll
Speaker 2: stay six years old forever and be able to be
Speaker 2: channeled and be able to conversate and have its own mind,
Speaker 2: its own entity, and it's You can find this child
Speaker 2: in your inner world and in your inner world vision,
Speaker 2: you can meet It'll look like a six year old
Speaker 2: child version of you in your inner world that you're encountering,
Speaker 2: and they will talk to you and you can communicate
Speaker 2: with them like their separate entity, and they will basically
Speaker 2: acts like a kid. They'll talk like a six year
Speaker 2: old and you have to ask them to reintegrate with you. Say, hey,
Speaker 2: you asked Jesus to come on the scene, to come
Speaker 2: on to the inner world. You will see Jesus show
Speaker 2: up in the vision and angels and you will Jesus
Speaker 2: to meet the little soul fragment kid and heal them.
Speaker 2: And then you'll be like, Okay, now you have to
Speaker 2: ask to integrate with you. Reintegrate with you. And he
Speaker 2: also talks about integrating with your soul, which we'll talk
Speaker 2: about in a second, or your spirit. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's either sole or spirit, and they're different. And
Speaker 2: he's like I'm the soul. No, I'm the spirit. This
Speaker 2: is the soul. It's one of the two anyway. So
Speaker 2: he asked, he has soul fragments to integrate, and you
Speaker 2: have to consent and ask them to and they gladly do.
Speaker 2: And you have to ask your spirit or soul to
Speaker 2: integrate with you. You don't have to, but you should
Speaker 2: because it'll empower you spiritually like it has for Dan.
Speaker 3: So unless you even financially, he said, right, he.
Speaker 2: Did say it would fix your finances, it'll start, it'll
Speaker 2: get them fired up, which is a kind of a
Speaker 2: funny twist in here. But yeah, so be I guess
Speaker 2: I should talk about his version of that, where he
Speaker 2: on the deep end, talks about this exact situation, not
Speaker 2: about his fragment but about his spirit integration. And he says,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to read the quote. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: summarize it because I haven't memorized. He basically says that
Speaker 2: he one day early in his ministry, like early days
Speaker 2: like twelve, like twenty twelve or something, he feels an
Speaker 2: entity make himself known while he's in his apartment and
Speaker 2: he feels this entity. He can feel it like he
Speaker 2: just knows it's twelve feet tall nefeline height, kind of weird.
Speaker 2: He says, it's twelve feet tall and he can feel
Speaker 2: its presence and that is about to speak to him,
Speaker 2: and he thinks that its head is going to be
Speaker 2: through the roof because it's so tall, and that it
Speaker 2: will be speaking down on him. And he actually says
Speaker 2: that he hears it speaking from his heart from inside
Speaker 2: of him. Weird, And he says that this entity is
Speaker 2: his spirit, and it's saying things to him that Jesus
Speaker 2: was talking about with him earlier, and that he recorded
Speaker 2: in his prayer journal, which is where he's potentially automatic
Speaker 2: writing or something of that nature, where he's talking to
Speaker 2: Jesus through some source in his inner world and then
Speaker 2: and then writing down what Jesus says. So he says,
Speaker 2: this spirit things that Jesus said to him. So he's thinking, oh,
Speaker 2: this is one of Jesus guys, And he's like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm your spirit, I'm part of you. Now. I don't
Speaker 2: know whose idea it was, if it was the spirit's idea,
Speaker 2: if it was Dan's idea, but he eventually asks the
Speaker 2: spirit to integrate with him. He asks it to and
Speaker 2: he says, ever since then, his spiritual drought ended. He
Speaker 2: hasn't had any spiritual drought since then. He's had constant
Speaker 2: access to information since then, and he recommends he also
Speaker 2: teaches all of his students.
Speaker 3: To do this.
Speaker 2: He says, if you integrate your spirit, your prayer journal
Speaker 2: will begin to look like the Book of Revelation. That's
Speaker 2: a pretty much verbatim quote. What does that mean. You're
Speaker 2: going to be getting prophecies of the future, and you're
Speaker 2: going to be getting a lot of divination type information
Speaker 2: from your spirit that is already connected to you, but
Speaker 2: you have to ask it to integrate with you. Does
Speaker 2: any of this sound biblical to you? By chance? No
Speaker 2: way it does. Why Why would the Bible not tell
Speaker 2: us to do this? If we had to do this,
Speaker 2: or if it makes us better Christians? I didn't important
Speaker 2: it does. He doesn't warn, He doesn't even warn against
Speaker 2: a potential deceiving spirit masking as your spirit, because we
Speaker 2: know there's spirit guides that people merge with, and there's
Speaker 2: a there's higher selves that people merge with and consent
Speaker 2: in the same way, and which those are demons, of course,
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, if they already mask as other characters
Speaker 2: to deceive you into getting consent. Why would you not warn? No,
Speaker 2: make sure you're calling upon your actual spirit at least,
Speaker 2: and not a demon masking as one, because that could
Speaker 2: be risky. He never brings up the idea of a
Speaker 2: masking demon as if they're not allowed to do it,
Speaker 2: which they've already admitted they can mask as Jesus. They
Speaker 2: can definitely mask as anything else. If they can do that. Uh,
Speaker 2: they've already admitted that in other parts of the SRT
Speaker 2: lore So, and I already knew that was true because
Speaker 2: he's doing he's got to be masking it with Dan,
Speaker 2: because if you're channeling Jesus and angels and it's not
Speaker 2: really Jesus and angels, then that's a demon masking as such.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know you could channel Jesus. So I
Speaker 2: just find the whole thing kind of off. But a
Speaker 2: lot of people seem to think he's just divinely, he's
Speaker 2: the new Apostle, He's the new book of Book of Daniel,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like he's just the guy.
Speaker 2: But it's just all why would you not warn people
Speaker 2: of deception? That seems kind of ridiculous, But there's more. Wait,
Speaker 2: there's more. I got to drink some water undehydrated. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you have anything.
Speaker 3: Nope, I just clicked the mute button. I was tipping
Speaker 3: to answer somebody's question in the chat there. Somebody had said,
Speaker 3: how in the world does he get on Christian channels
Speaker 3: for interviews? This is a lot, And I was about
Speaker 3: to say, because I mean, if we're just being honest,
Speaker 3: people want clicks and clicks equal dollar signs, and that
Speaker 3: kind of corrupts some people where they'll have anybody on
Speaker 3: their show, and the wilder and crazier the accusations, the better,
Speaker 3: because that means the more clicks, and that means the
Speaker 3: more money. I've even heard I ain't name drop him,
Speaker 3: but I've even heard somebody, big name in our Christian
Speaker 3: sphere of podcasting asked him, how do you discern, you know,
Speaker 3: what's real and what's not, because they've got some pretty
Speaker 3: wild stuff on their show, and they were like, I
Speaker 3: don't I have a show to make money and talk
Speaker 3: about these things. And I just let people tell their
Speaker 3: story and it's up to the listener to decide what's
Speaker 3: real and what ain't.
Speaker 2: There's no pushback from these big people sometimes, man, and
Speaker 2: it's upsetting to me because I at least ask him
Speaker 2: some hard questions, which you know, Taylor on the deep
Speaker 2: end has not really done. And I won't reveal too much,
Speaker 2: but you know, he's I don't think he's nefarious at all.
Speaker 2: I think he's just been deceived by this guy and
Speaker 2: he well, he recently reached out and you know, he've
Speaker 2: watched my interview about Dan and he's now not a fan,
Speaker 2: but he's trying to be you know, he's trying to
Speaker 2: help me reach out to him and try to be
Speaker 2: you know, fix things with him. Hopefully. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's possible, but I can appreciate the effort. So
Speaker 2: but he's had he got him big, like Taylor had
Speaker 2: him on five times, got a millions of you. He's
Speaker 2: actively very influential figure. Good guy, just you know, should
Speaker 2: have pushed back harder and I and I told him that,
Speaker 2: and uh, I just think this needs to Uh. We
Speaker 2: can't be supporting this man. I don't. I don't like
Speaker 2: the idea of having to attack a fellow brother in Christ.
Speaker 2: But he's technically doing demonic doctrine and giving it to Christians.
Speaker 2: So I don't feel terrible about it. I just wish
Speaker 2: it didn't have to be like this. But you know
Speaker 2: it's there's plenty of stuff to talk about. Man, I
Speaker 2: got a couple more, and I won't try to keep
Speaker 2: you all day, but uh, there is there is also
Speaker 2: an Now this isn't in my book. I wrote it
Speaker 2: in my book physically because I found it recently and
Speaker 2: I don't know how I missed this the first time.
Speaker 2: But in the Confessionals episode with Dan, which he also
Speaker 2: doesn't really push back on him, love Tony, love you, Tony,
Speaker 2: just be a little bit less nice sometimes he talks
Speaker 2: about astral travelers and stuff, and he's and Dan is
Speaker 2: saying basically, oh, we don't do none of that occult stuff.
Speaker 2: We don't do uh, we don't do asshl travel. But
Speaker 2: he says, there is a whole this is a quote,
Speaker 2: this is a holy way to engage with the astral
Speaker 2: plane in the spirit world, that it does not require
Speaker 2: demonic practices. I spend a lot of time in Christ
Speaker 2: maneuvering things in the second heaven realm. We are changing lives, destinies, timelines.
Speaker 2: So he just said, no, I don't do the whole
Speaker 2: demonic out of body stuff, but I do maneuver the
Speaker 2: second Heaven. He says it just like that in Christ.
Speaker 2: Now that's basically saying you actual travel, but with Jesus. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: You're you're saying you're assual traveling, but with Jesus. So
Speaker 2: it's okay, that's what he's saying, right, And he admitted
Speaker 2: he admitted to that on air and doesn't really talk
Speaker 2: about it much. And I've had people reach out to
Speaker 2: me who were in his inner circle for years and
Speaker 2: validated that as a true statement, which, like I just said,
Speaker 2: he admitted to it. So that's already problematic. And now
Speaker 2: I need to say there's Christians who believe astral travel
Speaker 2: is like the astral realm is real, which I try
Speaker 2: to prove in my first episode that it's not even real.
Speaker 2: It's fake simulations to deceive you. But they also cater
Speaker 2: to Christian mystics who go out of body. They cater
Speaker 2: a cosmology that's you know, more friendly to them in
Speaker 2: the Bible somewhat but still expansive, and they'll have astral
Speaker 2: intercessors who think they were chosen by God. Listen to
Speaker 2: members episode of Confessionals eight forty eight with Jade. Nice
Speaker 2: guy means well, but he's deceived and he thinks he
Speaker 2: was chosen by God to be an astral intercessor when
Speaker 2: he was eight years old and he's been going out
Speaker 2: of body ever since and says, no, I know we're
Speaker 2: not supposed to do this, but I was chosen by
Speaker 2: God because we got to fight the black magic with
Speaker 2: white magic, is what he's basically saying. And I think
Speaker 2: he's deceived and deceiving more into getting interested in the
Speaker 2: whole project into astral travel like I was myself, but
Speaker 2: in a Christian framework, which means they're going to give
Speaker 2: you simulations that are somewhat catering to that, but still
Speaker 2: expansive and non biblical by the way, and there's a
Speaker 2: pattern of that throughout the lore. So it's dangerous and
Speaker 2: we can't let people think that it's not only a
Speaker 2: good idea, but that it's real. We need to let
Speaker 2: people know that this is not even really happening. This
Speaker 2: is a simulation, and admittedly so in many ways, like
Speaker 2: I covered the first episode, so that's what I want
Speaker 2: to get on Confessionals to talk about. Because he Tony
Speaker 2: love him, but he promotes this whole it's real. It's
Speaker 2: a real place. We can go there, we just shouldn't.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, we need to let people know
Speaker 2: it's a fabrication because that will change a lot of
Speaker 2: the way we view these things and how to handle it.
Speaker 2: And Duvall is promoting that it's a real place and
Speaker 2: he does it technically, so not good.
Speaker 3: And I'm a believer in the supernatural. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of people want to say, oh yeah, a lot of
Speaker 3: people in a strip supernatural way. And a good example
Speaker 3: is like Micah Turnbow first come on the scene. Now
Speaker 3: listen to hear me out when he first.
Speaker 2: No, no, you don't, Okay, you're right, You're right right.
Speaker 3: When he first come on the scene, my spighter senses
Speaker 3: was going off, you know. I mean, like I said,
Speaker 3: I got a pretty good bullshit meter, and it was
Speaker 3: it was going off. And this is before I had
Speaker 3: this show. I was on the dig Bible podcast and
Speaker 3: my buddy Steve found him and pointed me to him,
Speaker 3: and I was just like, na, something something, something's off.
Speaker 3: And then I found out, you know that he used
Speaker 3: to be you know, homosexual, and then said some of
Speaker 3: his here hear me out. Uh, he said he claimed
Speaker 3: he used to be homosexual, and then some of the
Speaker 3: you know, visions and stuff that he was having, and
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, don't be judging. You know,
Speaker 3: people can change. And I was like, I'll talk to him.
Speaker 3: So I had him, had him on the show, and
Speaker 3: I told people on that show, I'm like, this is
Speaker 3: hard for some people to understand, I said, but I
Speaker 3: want to say this. I said, the things he's talking
Speaker 3: about are not unbiblical. Prophets have had visions, they've had encounters,
Speaker 3: you know, and all this kind of stuff. I said,
Speaker 3: So people hear that and not automatically want to discredit
Speaker 3: it and turn it off. I'm like, guys, we believe
Speaker 3: in death, we believe in resurrection, we believe in miracles
Speaker 3: of stuff we professed as supernatural as hell. So for
Speaker 3: us just to dismiss someone talking like this is kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, uh, hypocritical. So I was like, just here's
Speaker 3: here's here the man out, and let's hear what he
Speaker 3: has to say. And so that's one thing I stressed,
Speaker 3: and I had a couple of conversations with him. But
Speaker 3: it was shortly after that done had those conversations, he
Speaker 3: started making these other comments online you know about Uh.
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, you know, Jesus UH appeared
Speaker 3: in front of him and kissed him, and the naked
Speaker 3: and masturbating in front of Christ. Christ caught him masturbating.
Speaker 3: Relationship So wicked man, He's just he's not wicked. Let
Speaker 3: me refuse that, right, He's in the very least, very
Speaker 3: very deceived. And I told my ex wife at the time,
Speaker 3: I was like, if this is, you know, truly encounters.
Speaker 3: I believe he is having encounters, but it's not with who.
Speaker 2: They're deceptive and they can ask angels and Jesus.
Speaker 3: He sits on his lap and he kisses him on
Speaker 3: the lips and gets naked in front of him. I'm like,
Speaker 3: why would God tempt someone with a past sin because
Speaker 3: he used to he used to be homosexual? Then why
Speaker 3: would you kiss him? Why would you allow him to
Speaker 3: see on your lap?
Speaker 2: Why would you doing that? Anywhere in the Bible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: any encounter.
Speaker 3: So after that fact, you know what I mean, I
Speaker 3: was like, no, I reject this guy, but I still
Speaker 3: maybe I should take him down. But I had him
Speaker 3: on my channel and like I said, they're older, four
Speaker 3: or five, six years ago, but I still get some
Speaker 3: grief from some people, and I'm like, hey, man, just
Speaker 3: because I had someone on my should doesn't mean I
Speaker 3: agree with him. But yeah, I don't know. With hindsight
Speaker 3: being the way it is, maybe I should go back
Speaker 3: and just remove those off the channel.
Speaker 2: Well, And it's important to remember that for anybody still
Speaker 2: doubting after all I've gone through, that these demons can
Speaker 2: impersonate visually and see your type visions and otherwise impersonate Jesus, God, angels,
Speaker 2: et cetera. If you think there's no law, there's a
Speaker 2: law they can't do that, you are sorely mistaken. And
Speaker 2: if you and if you don't believe me, then you
Speaker 2: think that God is gay and having gay sex with
Speaker 2: his followers because you can't because I don't believe this
Speaker 2: man is making this all up. I don't. I think
Speaker 2: he's having encounters. They're just deceptive at demonic ones that
Speaker 2: have a lot of false vision aspects to it. And
Speaker 2: you know, whatever, whether he's encountered in dreams or visions,
Speaker 2: are seeing in the seeing in the real realm. He
Speaker 2: says he's been seeing angels since he was a little kid,
Speaker 2: and he plays with them, and I'm like, dude, the
Speaker 2: entire time his entire life, it's been demons and it's sad.
Speaker 2: It's a really sad thing because I'm sure his heart's
Speaker 2: in the right place for the most part, but he's
Speaker 2: allowed this, like this thing to overpower him. And there's
Speaker 2: some sort of ego thing to it. For real, like
Speaker 2: this whole I'm special aspect to it, which adds to
Speaker 2: it and it and it, and it kind of twists
Speaker 2: your whole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I want to be special. All want to
Speaker 3: feel vad.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to put that over true ultimately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but everybody's different. You know, there's some people out
Speaker 3: there that, uh, get on some of these shows and
Speaker 3: tell some stuff and stories and stuff that I think
Speaker 3: is just completely bogus. But it's like, like Mike Kaiser said,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of crazy stuff out there, but all
Speaker 3: it takes is one to be true, and you can't
Speaker 3: bucket everybody in exactly basket. But yeah, some people, they
Speaker 3: just want to feel important, they want to feel special,
Speaker 3: they want to feel loved, they want their fifteen minutes
Speaker 3: of fame or whatever, and they will some people will,
Speaker 3: you know, concoct some of the craziest stories for you know,
Speaker 3: for attention.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think there's more demonic deception utilizing
Speaker 2: people than there is people making this stuff up. For
Speaker 2: the most part, I think that accounts for way more
Speaker 2: and explains way more of the discrepancies we deal with,
Speaker 2: more so than just the tension horror fabricating the entire thing,
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of like people who they seem
Speaker 2: like they really believe what they're saying, and I think
Speaker 2: it's because they do, and there's some legitimacy to the
Speaker 2: experience of it. Just it's once you understand this vision
Speaker 2: control thing and this psychic information data control is completely
Speaker 2: facilitating and controlled by them, and every little detail is
Speaker 2: Once you understand that, all this stuff starts to make sense,
Speaker 2: which is why I'm trying to make this a whole,
Speaker 2: you know, three parter thing, and you know, part three
Speaker 2: would be a reincarnation direct debunk of that. But this
Speaker 2: is important because this lore is showing that even without
Speaker 2: the first episode of the ashual travel control stuff, which
Speaker 2: is very in your face and a lot of admissions
Speaker 2: they have, even without that, I can prove the vision
Speaker 2: control concept just by the existence of these practices that
Speaker 2: are clearly showing incompatible lore both healing, but they're at
Speaker 2: the same time they're catering to the person facilitating it,
Speaker 2: to the practitioner, and they have visions accompanying it, which
Speaker 2: are obviously fake because they don't make sense in a
Speaker 2: lot of ways. So if they can control those visions,
Speaker 2: the whole astionl stuff isn't much more out there, which
Speaker 2: I already covered in episode one and all the evidence there,
Speaker 2: So it's it's just, you know, it's staying on that
Speaker 2: whole theme, but showing how false healings are, you know,
Speaker 2: inflicting Christians now to a great degree. So I want
Speaker 2: to continue just a couple more things and maybe do
Speaker 2: a closer rant. But I have a few more fun
Speaker 2: ones here. One is a story Dan talks about and
Speaker 2: I'll just summarize it here, but he talks about it
Speaker 2: on the Battle for Human Soul's Deep End episode, and
Speaker 2: he's talking about his client in what they're seeing in
Speaker 2: their mind's ivision and in vision. This client says they
Speaker 2: see Dan's spirit in the inner world and it came
Speaker 2: into their view fully armored, and he's running and tackles
Speaker 2: this fire demon. So Dan spirit comes into his inner world,
Speaker 2: tackles a fire demon and just starts punching it in
Speaker 2: the face over and over right in the spirit. Okay,
Speaker 2: so he sees this, and then fifteen minutes lester so
Speaker 2: Dan continues his prayers. Right. So, Dan continues his prayers
Speaker 2: and with Jesus he says and moves on with the
Speaker 2: session while he's punching him with the spirit. So fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes later, the client reports that they see Dan spirit
Speaker 2: is still punching the fire demon in the face for
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes straight, uninterrupted, and he's not even conscious, and
Speaker 2: he hasn't been conscious for a while. So this demon's
Speaker 2: knocked out unconscious in the spirit. I guess that can happen.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And it's just getting pummeled by this really masculine, hestosterone
Speaker 2: fueled spirit of Dan. And it's kind of uh, it's
Speaker 2: just showing the visualizations how crazy they're getting with it,
Speaker 2: how silly it is. Now, if you want to hear now,
Speaker 2: if you want to hear the most crazy visualization that
Speaker 2: or at least the most silly concept I've maybe encountered
Speaker 2: so far, this one will really get you feel in
Speaker 2: some type of way. This was in Hackers of the
Speaker 2: Spirit Realm, deep in podcast twenty minutes in, he talks
Speaker 2: about He says, Jesus will come into the inner world
Speaker 2: sometimes he always does, and he'll come into the inner
Speaker 2: world and he will encounter if he's encountering, altars, spirit
Speaker 2: fragments of yourself, and let's say they're not getting integrated
Speaker 2: yet for whatever reason. He says that he will give them.
Speaker 2: He will give these little altars, which are little child
Speaker 2: versions of you or little teenage versions of you, cut
Speaker 2: off and they have their own intelligence. They're split off
Speaker 2: from you, and they're your soul fragment. He'll give Jesus
Speaker 2: will give them water guns, super soakers metaphysically filled with
Speaker 2: living water, the biblical living water, and they will use
Speaker 2: the water guns the altars in your mind's eye, to
Speaker 2: shoot demons that approach, to banish them. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, it's uh, that's this is what he says.
Speaker 2: I'm not joking. And he says that Jesus will do that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't think, uh, Jesus ever gave him
Speaker 2: any water guns in the Bible for for that. I
Speaker 2: think he just banished them immediately. I don't see the
Speaker 2: point in all that. And and the person's visualizing this.
Speaker 2: I have to remind people because they don't seem to
Speaker 2: get that they are seeing it, not just hearing it channeled.
Speaker 2: So it's very uh, it's very lucrative.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 2: Now we got to talk about pre ademic memories, which
Speaker 2: are the Christian rebrand of past life memory regression. It's
Speaker 2: the same concept. You get into a transtate with the
Speaker 2: patient and instead of getting rid of these attachments, you
Speaker 2: can also do past life therapy or with Dan pre
Speaker 2: endemic therapy, because he says, just like past life therapy,
Speaker 2: it's the same thing. If you relive your past life
Speaker 2: memory or traumatic event or death or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: you can fix and heal problems that have arisen because
Speaker 2: of that in your current life. Like their cycles and
Speaker 2: they repeat because that's the structure of the universe. And
Speaker 2: if you relive a past life memory, will heal you.
Speaker 2: If you relive a predemic memory, can heal you? That
Speaker 2: same logic, same concept, And he says, what does he say?
Speaker 2: So he says, many of these preademic memories seem to
Speaker 2: show pre demic souls getting captured and abducted by you know,
Speaker 2: dark fallen angel forces, and then you are forcibly hybridizing
Speaker 2: with demonic fallen angel spirits, and they are creating pre
Speaker 2: endemic spirit nepheline. So you're like, oh, that sounds biblical.
Speaker 2: It's like trying to sound biblical, but it's making shit up.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying we had no pre existence of
Speaker 2: the soul before this. I don't lean I lean away
Speaker 2: from it. But who what do I know? You know,
Speaker 2: I don't have an answer to that. The Bible doesn't
Speaker 2: seem to push that, but we who knows. But he's
Speaker 2: saying there's preademic nephiline from the Old Earth, but they're
Speaker 2: in the spirit form, so not even in the physical,
Speaker 2: which is you know, strange.
Speaker 3: And it's just the book the demons, the disembodied spirits
Speaker 3: of the nephiline are the demons, right, which.
Speaker 2: The feline came out in before the flood a few
Speaker 2: after Adam though not before that. So it's kind of
Speaker 2: like it's expansive in a way that doesn't really make sense.
Speaker 2: But you can, you can, you know, wiggle your way
Speaker 2: any lore into anything if you really force it.
Speaker 3: Now partial truth, then I guess, yeah, oh yeah, I've
Speaker 3: heard that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, then the concept is within the Bible. So
Speaker 2: it must be, it must make sense. But they're just
Speaker 2: re you know, rebranding and adding their own stories. So
Speaker 2: Dan talks about he first got a hold of these
Speaker 2: this whole predemic concept because he had his own predemic
Speaker 2: memory and that's what activated this whole mission for him.
Speaker 2: And well before that, he has a vision. So he
Speaker 2: gets a very crazy vision in a dream. And in
Speaker 2: this dream, he is transported through a portal. And in
Speaker 2: this portal, he lands in space, and he's in the
Speaker 2: middle of space, and there's a giant scroll in the
Speaker 2: sky or in the space that he's around, and this
Speaker 2: giant scroll opens up and starts fanning past him really quickly,
Speaker 2: he says, like so fast, to where he can only
Speaker 2: read bits and pieces. And the bits and pieces he reads,
Speaker 2: he gathers that he's reading about pre endemic war, preademic conflicts,
Speaker 2: preademic acts of betrayal, acts of heroism, with the different
Speaker 2: clashing factions, this predemic history. He's reading it but not
Speaker 2: getting a out of detail because I thin give him
Speaker 2: too much detail, A mount sign a little made up.
Speaker 2: So they're giving him just bits and pieces to make
Speaker 2: it seem like a big thing. And he's then he's
Speaker 2: transported to meet with the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit,
Speaker 2: who he says is a super nice guy, and I
Speaker 2: bet he is. And he says it's the best conversation.
Speaker 2: He just feels filled with love. He feels so good
Speaker 2: and makes him so happy to be talking to him.
Speaker 2: Can demons make you feel really good when you're talking
Speaker 2: to him? I feel like they can. I feel like
Speaker 2: we've talked about that. Anyways, it feels good. And yeah, right,
Speaker 2: So this this Holy Spirit character might be the real guy,
Speaker 2: might not be, is basically pushing him to uncover this
Speaker 2: predemic stuff, basically saying, we're choosing you for this mission,
Speaker 2: and you're the guy, you're the chosen one, You're neo,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna unravel this whole predemic thing that needs
Speaker 2: to come out. And he's loving it. And he's like, okay,
Speaker 2: heck yeah.
Speaker 3: And he's surprised he doesn't say a woman because all
Speaker 3: the Gnostic stuff that's interwoven into this, how Gnosticism sees
Speaker 3: the Holy Spirit as Sophia.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, it's it's maybe it's too on
Speaker 2: the nose, it's too risky. They're playing it's not even safe,
Speaker 2: but they're playing it relatively safe. You could say. And
Speaker 2: they're also catering to what they think he'll believe, and
Speaker 2: they can read his mind and know what he'll think
Speaker 2: about that in advance, probably, so you got to keep
Speaker 2: that in mind. So then we got to talk about
Speaker 2: Dan's personal vision or personal predemic memory that he relived.
Speaker 2: And I'll just read the quote because it's kind of
Speaker 2: kind of funny. And he says he remembers this is.
Speaker 3: Early here, nobody's here now. Is jealous over our hair, saith,
Speaker 3: He said he miss his hair.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry to make you feel jealous about it,
Speaker 2: but you know I would. I would share it if
Speaker 2: I wasn't so attached to it myself physically and emotional.
Speaker 2: So you just give it a couple of years, bro,
Speaker 2: and you'll be like us, or however long it takes you.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and some people say it look like a
Speaker 2: lesbian sometimes, and you know, I'm just gonna own it
Speaker 2: because I'm a lesbian for christ, if anything. Let's see
Speaker 2: where was that? Okay, So this is his quote about
Speaker 2: him being the predemic general in the preademic, right, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read it verbatim. This is a deep end
Speaker 2: quote on his hackers of the Spirit Realm, episode one hour,
Speaker 2: forty eight minutes, forty three seconds, and he stutters through
Speaker 2: it because he knows he shouldn't be talking about this.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna try to stutter just like he did,
Speaker 2: because I wrote it down that way. So just this
Speaker 2: is on purpose, is not on accident. So he says,
Speaker 2: my job in the preademic age was the general I
Speaker 2: actually ran a military campaign. And early on in that
Speaker 2: military campaign, and this came by a way of memories,
Speaker 2: like I actually started to remember some stuff. Uh, we
Speaker 2: had a lot of challenges. They were like there was
Speaker 2: a lot of betrayal, a lot of shift in his people.
Speaker 2: People that were part of the military campaigns, the spirits,
Speaker 2: they were not loyal. They they they they were defecting day.
Speaker 2: They all kinds of stuff. So it was like chaos.
Speaker 2: And it was a process and a difficult process of
Speaker 2: tightening the ships so that we could shut down that
Speaker 2: activity and really hit a slip stream of success as
Speaker 2: we were really doing, really fighting for the Lord and
Speaker 2: and and and in these predemic wars. Well, lo and behold,
Speaker 2: I come into this world and it's like time to
Speaker 2: start a ministry. So what did I expect in the
Speaker 2: early days of my ministry. Like every time we even
Speaker 2: just got going for a few months with an employee,
Speaker 2: there was an implosion. Uh, I couldn't get a team
Speaker 2: of support around me at all for years. That's what
Speaker 2: he said. I almost got it one hundred percent right.
Speaker 2: He was a predemic general and he didn't really get
Speaker 2: detailed at all. He just kind of like bullshits around
Speaker 2: the topic and stutters and is he a general? So
Speaker 2: he was special, he was high level, and you know,
Speaker 2: he's doing great work for God in this life, so
Speaker 2: it makes sense that he would cycle in and be
Speaker 2: someone cool in the past life. But it's it's just
Speaker 2: it's a little bit too similar to the past life
Speaker 2: memories but it's rebranded. And why why does no path
Speaker 2: memory therapists ever have any mention anywhere that I can
Speaker 2: find accessing a preademic soul memory like anything like he
Speaker 2: talks about. But and also he never experiences opening up
Speaker 2: past life memories of people as a human, which, by
Speaker 2: the way, people have had many, many of both, So
Speaker 2: why are they not overlapping and there seem to be
Speaker 2: catered to the practitioner here that seems weird? Is it
Speaker 2: just the prompting is off is that all it is.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they can coexist though. Now an
Speaker 2: important thing here and this isn't in my book, but
Speaker 2: I talk about this now because I heard him recently.
Speaker 2: I followed him talk about it recently. I always wondered
Speaker 2: what did he have an explanation for for reincarnation memories
Speaker 2: that people are accessing, Like does he believe those are
Speaker 2: fake implanted memories? Because that would totally throw a wrench
Speaker 2: in his whole thing if you admit that. So, no,
Speaker 2: he doesn't say that. He doesn't say they're getting fake memories.
Speaker 2: He says people getting past life memories are and I'm
Speaker 2: not saying verbatim, but he's basically said they are getting
Speaker 2: real memories, he believes, but they're not of them in
Speaker 2: a past life. They are DNA locked ancestrial passed on memories,
Speaker 2: right net For that to be true.
Speaker 3: That sounds so much like Derby. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 3: mean that last episode, Yeah, Jeremy Darby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, But he says that, And it's here's
Speaker 2: the thing to say, that means you've done maybe less
Speaker 2: than five minutes of reincarnation research because it doesn't match
Speaker 2: the data even a little bit. And I'll elaborate by saying,
Speaker 2: to be passed on from your DNA and your bloodline,
Speaker 2: that means all of your past life memories would have
Speaker 2: to be within your bloodline, within your family. And most
Speaker 2: people's past lives they relive are the last one, so
Speaker 2: that would have to be like their grandpa or great
Speaker 2: grandpa or maybe even father if it's locked into there,
Speaker 2: it would have to be their memories, right, which is
Speaker 2: not the case now a lot. Now, there are a
Speaker 2: handful of people who reincarnate within the family, usually cousins
Speaker 2: or uncles or something not direct like grandpa great grandpa.
Speaker 2: It's usually split off that happens, yes, but the vast
Speaker 2: vast majority of cases are totally strangers. They will now
Speaker 2: if you look look at Native Ian Stevenson's twenty five
Speaker 2: hundred cases, not using regression but children's memories, which we
Speaker 2: talk about in part three if we ever get there
Speaker 2: and how that's explained away. But he uses the children
Speaker 2: because he doesn't think they can lie, and I don't
Speaker 2: think they're lying, they're just deceived. And when you get
Speaker 2: into the date of his twenty five hundred cases, all
Speaker 2: of these people are reincarnated the like ninety nine percent
Speaker 2: of them have a one to three year gap between incarnations,
Speaker 2: so they die and then one to three years later
Speaker 2: they're back. Some of them are five or twenty years
Speaker 2: in the future between, but most of them are like
Speaker 2: within that like eighteen month or so. And they're usually
Speaker 2: not always within one hundred miles away, right, They're not
Speaker 2: in the same family almost ever, but they're about one
Speaker 2: hundred miles away. And I think the reason they choose
Speaker 2: people close by so that they can go and meet
Speaker 2: that family and then go get data to try to
Speaker 2: validate and create mythology. That's what I believe is happening.
Speaker 2: That's part three data whatever. So to say that they're
Speaker 2: locked in the DNA means they have to be all
Speaker 2: within the same bloodline, which is not the case most
Speaker 2: of the time. And the one to three year gap
Speaker 2: is also because people are reliving memories sometimes from the
Speaker 2: distant past, you know, five hundred years ago, and sometimes
Speaker 2: it's the most often it's the last life they lived.
Speaker 2: So if it's the last life they lived, it would
Speaker 2: have to be like their grandpa or father's memories, maybe
Speaker 2: their great grandpa, which is never the case almost ever.
Speaker 2: Maybe like a few times here and there, so it
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. And that's what he says explains
Speaker 2: past life memories, and if he says they are visions
Speaker 2: controlled by demons, he's going to look like a real asshole.
Speaker 2: So he can't say that. And I don't think he
Speaker 2: even thought of that or will consider it because it
Speaker 2: has implications for his own work. But that's obviously a
Speaker 2: big discrepancy there. I don't know if you have anything
Speaker 2: for me, bro Amen, No, yeah, that's right. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say one more thing on Duvall real quick,
Speaker 2: and then I'll try to do a quick little closing
Speaker 2: rant if that's cool. But there is and there's more
Speaker 2: in the book, so by the book if you want more,
Speaker 2: but I'm just going over the key stuff. There is
Speaker 2: a Facebook group called Victims of Dan Duval and Bride
Speaker 2: Ministries and last time I checked, it had like two
Speaker 2: hundred and ten members or so. And I posted my
Speaker 2: book in my podcast covering him on it, so they
Speaker 2: know about it. But the fact that this exists is problematic.
Speaker 2: That's two hundred people that are just feel they've had
Speaker 2: very bad outcomes from his practice in the long or
Speaker 2: short term. Who knows or with his training sessions some
Speaker 2: people are involved with and that's just the people who
Speaker 2: joined a Facebook group. How many people are not in
Speaker 2: the Facebook group that having a problem with him. I
Speaker 2: don't know. But having two hundred is already enough to
Speaker 2: be like this should be worth mentioning. So I don't
Speaker 2: know if you if that is shocking to anybody here,
Speaker 2: but because some people had really good experiences, but it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean other people had the same, right.
Speaker 3: That's the thing too, is it really muddies the water
Speaker 3: when you get into emotions, you know, how it makes
Speaker 3: you feel, and if someone feels something or they think
Speaker 3: they got something, you know, a healing or whatever the
Speaker 3: case may be. I mean, it really muddies the water
Speaker 3: because a lot of times, I mean, emotions can override
Speaker 3: you know, facts, Emotions can make you blind to certain things.
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's lots of us, you know, especially in
Speaker 3: the chat. You know, let me know, Yeah, let me
Speaker 3: know if you agree. But I'm sure we've all you know,
Speaker 3: been in love, you know, with someone that was either
Speaker 3: you know, a liar, a cheater, or a drug addictor
Speaker 3: or whatever. Yeah, but yeah, you felt good with them,
Speaker 3: but the signs were there and you just ignore or
Speaker 3: maybe you truly didn't see them, but you were blinded
Speaker 3: by that feeling that you got when you were with them.
Speaker 3: And then once you separated, everybody starts coming forward and
Speaker 3: be like, ah, man, did you see this, this, and this? Oh,
Speaker 3: it outraged me that they did this, this, and this.
Speaker 3: I can't believe you didn't see this. And it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: because the emotions were muddying the water and overclouding your
Speaker 3: judgment and your reasoning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I absolutely agree, man, And that is the overall
Speaker 2: pattern that's taking place in all these practices. They make
Speaker 2: you feel special, they make you feel good because they
Speaker 2: can chemically hijack you. They can impress thoughts upon you,
Speaker 2: and the more you allow it, the more control they have.
Speaker 2: The more you're protected by the Holy Spirit, the more
Speaker 2: you live a good life, the less influence, the less
Speaker 2: external influence you will be had upon you. And I'll
Speaker 2: get into it more in a minute, but like you know,
Speaker 2: I know we're focusing on demons a lot here in
Speaker 2: their deception, and this is something that needs to be
Speaker 2: talked about because it's having a lot of negative effects
Speaker 2: and trickled down effects. But I'm not and I know
Speaker 2: I wrote a whole book about it. But I'm not
Speaker 2: someone who every time something's wrong, at the drop of
Speaker 2: a hat, I'm like, oh, it's a demon, you know,
Speaker 2: it's even if they're involved, it's they're only involved as
Speaker 2: much as we allow them to be with our consents
Speaker 2: we've given. And divination is a big one, But sinning
Speaker 2: is the you know, ultimate, you know, it's a it's
Speaker 2: a balance. The more you sin, the more you're opening up,
Speaker 2: the more you do accult practice, the more you're opening up,
Speaker 2: and the more you open up, the less you're yourself
Speaker 2: because you're merging slowly with demons until they, at the
Speaker 2: deepest case, possess you. But that requires some level of
Speaker 2: acknowledgment and agreements to be fully possessed, but to be
Speaker 2: partially heavily demonized and influenced and part of them. It
Speaker 2: does not take much more than a life of major sin.
Speaker 2: And people need to know that how they live in
Speaker 2: covenant with Christ, it's going to be their ultimate, their
Speaker 2: ultimate healing. I'm not saying SRA and MKU victims don't
Speaker 2: deserve some extra special care. I'm sure they do. And
Speaker 2: there's different agreements that were made in the past that
Speaker 2: make things a lot more complex. But this whole renunciation
Speaker 2: of all these specific, complex metaphysical things that may or
Speaker 2: may not exist doesn't seem like the way Christs want
Speaker 2: us to handle it. And even in I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: into it in a minute, I want to I want
Speaker 2: to read a verse and then I'm going to go
Speaker 2: on a rant in that vein that I think is
Speaker 2: very important to make. But I do want to say
Speaker 2: that there's a verse I think that talks about Dan
Speaker 2: Duvall very directly and people like him and what his
Speaker 2: practice is doing. And it's Matthew seven twenty two to
Speaker 2: twenty three, and it says, many will say to me
Speaker 2: in that day, Lord Lord, have we not prophesied in
Speaker 2: your name, cast out demons in your name, and done
Speaker 2: many wonders in your name? And then I will declare
Speaker 2: to them, I never knew you. You depart. I never
Speaker 2: knew you depart from me, you who practice lawlessness. This
Speaker 2: is a Bible verse telling you there will be a
Speaker 2: time when people think they're casting out demons in the
Speaker 2: name of the Lord, and they are literally practicing lawlessness,
Speaker 2: doing stuff that God does not approve of, but they
Speaker 2: do it in his name, and it seems to be
Speaker 2: working because they believe they're casting out demons, so it
Speaker 2: must be working. Is it because they're really casting them
Speaker 2: out from authority or because demon's strategy is manipulating them
Speaker 2: using it a strategy? Is that verse is not giving
Speaker 2: you all the details, but it's leaving little room for
Speaker 2: interpretation other than what I'm saying is happening here. And
Speaker 2: I think Dan Duvall absolutely applies to this, and it's
Speaker 2: I don't want this to happen to that man. I
Speaker 2: hope that he sees the air of his ways and
Speaker 2: sees he's been deceived, so that he can, you know,
Speaker 2: be a testimony of Hey, this is how bad the
Speaker 2: deception is. We need to now, you know, get this
Speaker 2: out there. I don't think it's super likely, but I'm
Speaker 2: open to it. I'm praying for it. So I just
Speaker 2: think that verse is really interesting and people should understand
Speaker 2: that the Bible talks about this exact situation. Yeah, who
Speaker 2: else would be talking about? But I want to do
Speaker 2: a quick oh you go ahead though.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was just gonna say, you know, like
Speaker 3: that old cliche saying you know that the Lord works
Speaker 3: in mysterious ways. It could be that this is part
Speaker 3: of his faith journey to experience this and catch all
Speaker 3: those people's attention that believe in this kind of thing,
Speaker 3: and then for him just to see the light come
Speaker 3: out of it and change the minds and hearts of
Speaker 3: all those other people.
Speaker 2: You know, we don't that would be badass. I'm praying
Speaker 2: for it. I hope he does.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: I'm reaching out to him really soon, as soon as
Speaker 2: I get his contact, because I want to make sure
Speaker 2: he sees it and not to send it to an
Speaker 2: email he might not ever find. But that'll happen soon,
Speaker 2: and he's gonna go one way or the other one too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the chat through out a good tidbit random,
Speaker 3: it's kind of random. But don't live in sin, don't
Speaker 3: have sex before marriage.
Speaker 2: Gosh, yeah, I already messed that one up. But I'm
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be born again. I mean, I've been selling
Speaker 2: it for a while now, but uh, let's see if
Speaker 2: I have the strength to continue. I just I just
Speaker 2: keep going on podcasts and being all freaky and the
Speaker 2: girls just it's repellent. Man, It's great. It's working out
Speaker 2: for me really well actually, But I had enough time
Speaker 2: fun in the sun. You know, so I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't have much work.
Speaker 3: Well, I got these glasses, you know, the birth control glasses.
Speaker 3: It kind of may you know.
Speaker 2: I think you look good in them. Man, I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's gonna work.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you? Oh good.
Speaker 2: Anyway, We're We're done with the Duval stuff for the
Speaker 2: most part. But I do want to do a quick
Speaker 2: rant that I think is very important to touch on
Speaker 2: because people are gonna hear this and go, Okay, well
Speaker 2: he's doing deliverance wrong. He's doing a demonic deceived version. Okay,
Speaker 2: well other people are doing it right. What about all
Speaker 2: these Christians and Catholics and people doing exorcisms those practices.
Speaker 2: Are they all flawed. I'm not gonna say they're all
Speaker 2: flawed one hundred percent, but I'm gonna say I believe
Speaker 2: that a lot of exorcisms and practices and methodology is
Speaker 2: problematic and not. I think it's deception. Two. I think
Speaker 2: it's diggies. I think they deceive you as much as
Speaker 2: they can get away with. And they can't get away
Speaker 2: with doing the Duval stuff with everybody because they're not
Speaker 2: gonna fall for it. But they cater to their audience,
Speaker 2: and they're doing acting in these channelings. They're doing acting
Speaker 2: by maintaining these very very calculated visions constantly. They're acting
Speaker 2: when they possess people to make sure people don't find
Speaker 2: out they're possessing them. They're acting, controlling who knows what
Speaker 2: actors and world leaders on the world stage. They are
Speaker 2: acting in many of our movies. Literally, I'm sure if
Speaker 2: they are so good at acting and so dedicated to it, one,
Speaker 2: why can't they be meat suits and alien bodies, first
Speaker 2: of all and just playing a role that's just a
Speaker 2: side tangent. But Two, how do we know they're not
Speaker 2: acting when they are are in these exorcisms, puffing their
Speaker 2: chests and being all violent and fairal and acting like
Speaker 2: monsters Whenever they're so calm and calculated and you know,
Speaker 2: presumably human like, whenever they're trying to be undercover, if
Speaker 2: they're capable of that, how do we know they're not
Speaker 2: acting whenever they're doing these violent, insane, horrific exorcisms where
Speaker 2: they are acting like you know, monstrous beasts essentially and
Speaker 2: doing all these supernatural things. I think those things happen,
Speaker 2: but I think it's part of the act, and people
Speaker 2: when you talk to exorcists, when you look into the research,
Speaker 2: the Bible isn't giving us clear instructions on how to
Speaker 2: do this. They don't even tell us to do this.
Speaker 2: They tell the apostles and their story, and we learn
Speaker 2: from their story. But they're not ordering Christians to do this.
Speaker 2: And I think if they did, it'd be problematic and
Speaker 2: it would be a much more common thing that would
Speaker 2: be not working, and demons would exploit that, and I
Speaker 2: think they are exploiting it and these extras to say
Speaker 2: they learn a lot of their methodology from trial and error,
Speaker 2: not from the Bible, because the Bible doesn't give us
Speaker 2: all the details on this. It's authority based in Christ.
Speaker 2: Why are these exorcisms taking hours and days often? Why
Speaker 2: are they taking so long? If it's an authority in
Speaker 2: crisis would be pretty immediate. I think these demons are like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: my cover's blown. I'm caught. They're not going to leave
Speaker 2: me alone until I leave, or at least assume to
Speaker 2: leave or pretend to leave. So they might as well
Speaker 2: go out with a big bang and put on a
Speaker 2: show and make a character cuture of demon to make
Speaker 2: you think that they're not strategically cohesive like they are,
Speaker 2: and make them think that they're more violent and crazy
Speaker 2: because if you and then they can teach you methodology
Speaker 2: like oh you got rid of me whenever you said
Speaker 2: this certain verse, Okay, I'll leave right then because you're
Speaker 2: gonna think that verse is gonna get rid of me.
Speaker 2: And then next time you do that, it may not work,
Speaker 2: but it still builds this idea of like, Okay, well
Speaker 2: this work this time, and this work this time, so
Speaker 2: these are going to be my methods. I try the
Speaker 2: next exorcisms, and they're teaching these exorcist methodology, just in
Speaker 2: a much less problematic way than duvall. You know, it's
Speaker 2: less problematic, but it's still I think they're putting on
Speaker 2: a show. If they're not cast out immediately in authority,
Speaker 2: then your methodology is already wrong. And I think a
Speaker 2: lot of it has to do with the heart of
Speaker 2: the possessed individual. I'm not saying they're all bad people.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you have to agree to be possessed,
Speaker 2: and it takes a while to get there, requiring a
Speaker 2: lot of sin and lack of repentance, and until they
Speaker 2: truly do that, like truly in their heart. I don't
Speaker 2: know if these rituals and magic is going to get
Speaker 2: rid of them. I think it has to be a
Speaker 2: combination of the two. And I'm not an expert on
Speaker 2: all the details there. I just know they cater so
Speaker 2: much their teachings in all these ways to people indirectly
Speaker 2: and directly by being very subtle and calculated and intelligent.
Speaker 2: And now they're putting on a show and being all
Speaker 2: stupid and super surface level evil in the other exorcisms,
Speaker 2: and they're playing a character because they don't want you
Speaker 2: to know their true identity, and they're a hive mind
Speaker 2: borg and they're all connected to each other, so they
Speaker 2: have access to all this information. Can you hear me? Absolutely? Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: my screen went away anyway. So I just think that
Speaker 2: that's important to put out there because I forgot to
Speaker 2: talk about it in my other episodes a little bit.
Speaker 2: But I just think spiritual warfare and attacking these things
Speaker 2: needs to be reframed as proclaiming the Gospel more than anything,
Speaker 2: more so than these rituals and these methodologies that these
Speaker 2: exorcisms push. I'm sure some of them might be working
Speaker 2: for some people for the more extreme cases, but I'm
Speaker 2: not going to be promoting it in a fan of
Speaker 2: the vast majority of it because I think it's all
Speaker 2: the same, same game being played. Do I make sense?
Speaker 3: Oh? No, I mean I definitely see all the connective
Speaker 3: tissue that you laid out, and like you had shown,
Speaker 3: all those different examples to the bones are the same.
Speaker 3: You know, you might have different yeah, you know, flesh
Speaker 3: suit and clothes and terminology for it, but the the
Speaker 3: characteristics are the saying there's a lot that rhymes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they can't coexist and be healing people. Now,
Speaker 2: some people have said to me, no, you're wrong. It's
Speaker 2: not demons orchestrating this whole thing. It's it is the
Speaker 2: It is the belief in the healing that allows you
Speaker 2: to be healed. And I'm not saying there's no layer
Speaker 2: to the belief.
Speaker 3: That's important, but I said, your faith has made you will.
Speaker 2: So it says if you want to if you want
Speaker 2: to heal, you pray and fast, then you'll be healed.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I believe that. But here's the problem with that.
Speaker 2: If it's just belief, why then that what how do
Speaker 2: you explain the entity is involved? Because who's impressing the
Speaker 2: vision the visions can't be real because they don't they
Speaker 2: they don't. They don't correlate with each other. They don't.
Speaker 2: They can't coexist with each other because they don't share
Speaker 2: the same laws. And who is impersonating Jesus? Who is
Speaker 2: impersonating these angels? Who's impersonal in these light beings? Like
Speaker 2: it has to be entity involvement. So are entities involved
Speaker 2: tricking you with something you're willing to believe to make
Speaker 2: you believe that you can be healed by deceiving you,
Speaker 2: But they're the ones possibly inflicting the problem and then
Speaker 2: taking it away from you. If it's just your belief,
Speaker 2: Why are entities involved giving you visions and giving you
Speaker 2: channeled information that contradicts each other that you're willing to believe.
Speaker 2: Why do they cater to you and deceive you to
Speaker 2: make you heal? You in a that sounds like a
Speaker 2: very deceptive way to do a positive thing. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. That's what people have said to me.
Speaker 3: I'm seen that weird phrase. It's almost like the demons
Speaker 3: in the spirit realm taught this to the politicians.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, exactly, No, that's absolutely what they did. They've
Speaker 2: they've ultimately guided most of the large happenings of the world,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, indirectly or directly, whether their people know
Speaker 2: it or not. And I just think it's you know,
Speaker 2: there's no explanation for the existence of all of this
Speaker 2: lore except the Bible. It is the only explanation for
Speaker 2: what's going on here, and specifically my vision control simulation theory,
Speaker 2: which shows that they can control all visionary experiences. And
Speaker 2: if people don't believe me, I will I maybe read
Speaker 2: some last time, but I'll just remind them of certain
Speaker 2: verses they can look up if they're interested. Jeremiah fourteen fourteen.
Speaker 2: And the Lord said to me, the prophets prophesy lies
Speaker 2: in my name. I have not sent them. They prophesy
Speaker 2: a false vision, divination, a worthless thing, and the deceit
Speaker 2: of their heart, catering to their heart, because demons cater
Speaker 2: to your heart Jeremiah twenty three thirty two. Behold, I'm
Speaker 2: against those who prophesy false dreams, says the Lord. And
Speaker 2: I tell them and cause my people to err by
Speaker 2: their lives and by their recklessness. Yeah, I did not
Speaker 2: send them or command them. Therefore they shall not profit
Speaker 2: this people at all. Says the Lord Ezekiel thirteen six
Speaker 2: through seven, Second Kings twenty two, The Entire Story Jeremiah
Speaker 2: twenty three, sixteen Deuteronomy thirteen one through three. They talk
Speaker 2: about false dreams, false visions, false divination. What is that
Speaker 2: referring to? If it's not some sort of spiritual experience
Speaker 2: that is false and perpetrated by demonic or fallen angels,
Speaker 2: does that mean they have certain manipulative ability to control
Speaker 2: these experiences and make you think something that's not true.
Speaker 2: It's kind of directly telling you, just with very little detail,
Speaker 2: but it's the same concept I'm talking about, And I'm
Speaker 2: very shocked. I never hear people talking about the false
Speaker 2: vision control aspect, because it accounts for all of you
Speaker 2: know outaboutic travel, remote viewing, past life memories, this healing stuff.
Speaker 2: It accounts for all of it in a cohesive the
Speaker 2: framework that is biblically aligned. So I just think that
Speaker 2: people need to be talking about it a little bit more.
Speaker 3: Mm yep. And that's the thing is I think we
Speaker 3: mentioned it last episode. You know, God is not the mean,
Speaker 3: nasty God and gives you all these rules because he's
Speaker 3: a jealous, controlling maniac, you know, he's a loving father. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when you're a kid, you're told not to go play
Speaker 3: in the road. Yeah, you might really want to, and
Speaker 3: it might be fun to play in the road, and yeah,
Speaker 3: you might be able to play in the road and
Speaker 3: not get hit by a car. You know, but they
Speaker 3: love you and they want you to avoid being the
Speaker 3: road because the possibility of you getting hit. So therefore, yes,
Speaker 3: this you know, if we're this whole idea we're talking
Speaker 3: about the astral realm and projection and all this other stuff,
Speaker 3: is the road metaphorically, Yeah, you maybe be able to
Speaker 3: get into the road. The road is real, and you
Speaker 3: might be able to wander around that road and have
Speaker 3: a good time on that road and come back home
Speaker 3: and nothing ever happened to you. But you run the
Speaker 3: risk of getting your brain splattered all over the pavement
Speaker 3: by a fast moving car. So therefore I got that run. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, you can have fun in the yard, stay
Speaker 3: out of the road.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man. And you know, people have a real problem
Speaker 2: with yahweh and his rules and his uh and some
Speaker 2: of all his rules are you know optional. You can
Speaker 2: break all the rules and still be saved if you
Speaker 2: and your heart truly desire you know, trust in Jesus
Speaker 2: and have faith. So that's a pretty good deal. I mean,
Speaker 2: there there's layers to that, I'm sure, but you're saved
Speaker 2: so easily just by accepting it. And the rules are
Speaker 2: optional and ideally and desired, yes, but you don't have
Speaker 2: to follow them to be saved. It's not like you
Speaker 2: can't join the club and be a flood individual because
Speaker 2: we all are. And I think he has the most
Speaker 2: fair system set up. But he has high expectations for
Speaker 2: his people and he's very forgiving him merciful to all
Speaker 2: of them. So you know, people if they're living a
Speaker 2: Christian life versus not, you're gonna see people living the
Speaker 2: Christian life and following those covenants and rules being a
Speaker 2: lot more healthy, happy, and adjusted to the world than
Speaker 2: everybody else who seems to be struggling with depression, anxiety,
Speaker 2: self loathing and all these things. If you haven't noticed
Speaker 2: a pattern of that with people in your life who
Speaker 2: you know there are certain belief systems, then you're not
Speaker 2: paying attention because that pattern is prevalent. And they look
Speaker 2: for joy and happiness Inanism, and you know, the quick
Speaker 2: little moments that aren't really that deep, and I think
Speaker 2: the more we align ourselves with the biblical word and
Speaker 2: what God wants for us, we'll have that inner peace
Speaker 2: and that like you know, we don't need to understand everything,
Speaker 2: despite us trying often, we don't need all the knowledge.
Speaker 2: We need moral progression and servitude and understanding that we're
Speaker 2: not good enough for what He's given us. So just
Speaker 2: just some humility, you know what I'm saying, not unabrashed
Speaker 2: ego or whatever it may be. So that's my other
Speaker 2: as I've gornt.
Speaker 3: No, I agree with one hundred percent. And there was
Speaker 3: number one reason and downfall of Satan. Number one his beauty,
Speaker 3: but then his pride and arrogance and how puffed up
Speaker 3: he was. Humility, I believe, is the number one key.
Speaker 3: You know, the first will be last. Yeah, no, absolutely,
Speaker 3: not a conquering king, but a suffering servant. It's all
Speaker 3: about humility. And I think, yeah, like you said, once
Speaker 3: you realize how dirty, how messed up you are, but
Speaker 3: you're still forgiven and loved and told to come as
Speaker 3: you are, should make you feel this smile. So a
Speaker 3: lot of people that have that ten foot tall bulletproof
Speaker 3: fair sick. I'm so righteous better than you people, they
Speaker 3: got it all wrong. Brother Uh. For those that are
Speaker 3: forgiven much, forgive much and humility goes a long long way.
Speaker 3: Absolutely well, brother man, thank you so much for coming back,
Speaker 3: and I definitely want that part.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're ready, So.
Speaker 3: I guess before we close out, give us a little
Speaker 3: teaser of what Part three will be and let everybody
Speaker 3: know where they can find you. Ma'am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually so yeah. Part three will be a
Speaker 2: reincarnation d bunk, focusing on chapter five of my book,
Speaker 2: where I basically get into how the whole vision control
Speaker 2: thing which is already kind of very well proven to
Speaker 2: be possible in parts one and two, and how they
Speaker 2: can download full you know, non autonomous memories and do
Speaker 2: you We're going to cover reincarnation, how the whole birthmark
Speaker 2: situation works and how it all is framed within a
Speaker 2: deceptive model and is explainable, as well as talking about
Speaker 2: regression memories, children's memories that are recovered the Ian Stevenson
Speaker 2: Research secret Space program, star Seed stuff, SRA abuse, false memory,
Speaker 2: and implantation, which I'm not saying the abuse is, but
Speaker 2: I'm saying like there's things that go along with it
Speaker 2: that are to disqualify the rest of it. It's very
Speaker 2: complex and just talking about all the fake memory implantation
Speaker 2: and how I have a cohesive understanding of how it
Speaker 2: can be. I'll explain away in a biblical model. And
Speaker 2: finding my work, like I said, linktree dot com, slash
Speaker 2: Sephlahem and you can find my audiobook which is free,
Speaker 2: my book physical which you can buy for not that expensive,
Speaker 2: and you can find follow my YouTube account where I'll
Speaker 2: be posting shorts and future interviews I'm doing. I'm doing
Speaker 2: not only posting my own interviews in a playlist, but
Speaker 2: I'll be posting I'm doing interviews on certain people. Tomorrow
Speaker 2: is my first one with my male role model, Jed Baza,
Speaker 2: and he has If anybody is listening right now, please
Speaker 2: watch this interview. It's going to be a breakdown of
Speaker 2: two things that is very major that I think he
Speaker 2: is ahead of the game on. And that's one breaking
Speaker 2: down how eternal conscious torture in hell is not what
Speaker 2: we've been taught and how he can disprove it biblically
Speaker 2: scripturally and his whole theories on that, and also the
Speaker 2: primordial origin of Satan, which he does not believe is
Speaker 2: a fallen angel which I tend to concur with him
Speaker 2: and biblically. In the original text, it doesn't seem to
Speaker 2: promote that idea. And it's gonna be a badass conversation
Speaker 2: with a real cowboy motherfucker. So sorry, I said mfor
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to do that, but he's a badass
Speaker 2: and I love him. So please watch the interview posting
Speaker 2: sometime in the next few days and it will be crazy.
Speaker 2: So that's what I am promoting right now.
Speaker 3: Thank you, awesome man, awesome, awesome, awesome brother. Well, thank
Speaker 3: you for coming on, and I look forward to conversation
Speaker 3: number three. Hope you guys enjoyed that, and I hope
Speaker 3: you guys are enjoying these lives. This is something new.
Speaker 3: I'm really enjoying it myself interacting with the chat. Thank
Speaker 3: you guys for coming and hanging out, and I guess
Speaker 3: we will see you Sunday night. We will pick back
Speaker 3: up on the Legends of the Jews Lewis Ginsburg series.
Speaker 3: We are now on episode twenty, so come hang out
Speaker 3: be a part of the live study Sunday at eight
Speaker 3: pm Eastern Standard Time. Until next time, guys, remember torches Hi,
Speaker 3: I have done that sign off in a while. Torture
Speaker 3: time that told us Miss m made.
Speaker 5: A little smoke, just stories carved in stone.
Speaker 6: Fire still burns the sand when you strike it on
Speaker 6: your own.
Speaker 9: Crowns filled out of borrowed light, Thrones wiring in the fear,
Speaker 9: truth chained out on mountain walls, while vulture circle near.
Speaker 4: If knowledge is a crime, we were guilty from the stop.
Speaker 4: They don't fear the questions. They fear the spark. So
Speaker 4: we steal the fire.
Speaker 2: Not true, not train, just.
Speaker 4: To seecrel smoking mirrors and call the beast by name.
Speaker 4: They say the truths will cost you friends. Confront me
Speaker 4: some minds for samory.
Speaker 3: Have a softer face.
Speaker 2: Swim fires, let be.
Speaker 5: Tongs were split and lines were drawn. Whilcher set to rule.
Speaker 5: Whispers fad into the throngs, while schools trained obedy and fools.
Speaker 5: Serpents don't just lie with the words, They plant them
Speaker 5: in the ground. Three troops wrapped around alive make wisdom sound.
Speaker 5: They sail lied without a sword, So awaken them without
Speaker 5: a room.
Speaker 4: If the path of aids the cross, it's not the truth.
Speaker 2: So we steal the.
Speaker 4: Fasterier, not to burn it down, but to warm the
Speaker 4: one still frozen by the lights, passed around. They call
Speaker 4: it dangerous thinking, they call it heresy.
Speaker 2: But Fine doesn't.
Speaker 5: Fear the dark, only shoes what a real.
Speaker 2: Who told you?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 2: Was it true?
Speaker 6: Did you search it?
Speaker 4: Or trust of your.
Speaker 2: The foundation first? Before you climb a thrust on of smoke.
Speaker 5: We'll steal out.
Speaker 1: Serious with the truths.
Speaker 10: Sleavey, we steal fire. Can we pass a hand a hand?
Speaker 10: Not as keys, not as master's, just as that.
Speaker 2: Shows to stamps.
Speaker 4: If the truth makes you a strangers, you're closer, then
Speaker 4: you'll think the flame was never Master Gilvy, only try.
Speaker 1: To keep
Speaker 4: Us