Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the buck Eye Weekly Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Tony Daman here as always with Tom or Tom. Well,
Speaker 1: that was a pre pause pause. How's it going, Tony?
Speaker 2: Just to answer the unanswered question here, I'm expecting two
Speaker 2: people to contribute to this podcast. That may be giving
Speaker 2: you too much credit, but I'm trying to be up
Speaker 2: you know, upbeat this time of year.
Speaker 3: And give you as much credit as I can.
Speaker 1: Boy, wow, Tom, but this is gonna be a tough
Speaker 1: show for you, and I appreciate you being a hero,
Speaker 1: if not a warrior all of this stuff to power
Speaker 1: through this show and give me credit at the outset
Speaker 1: and we'll see if the credit remains or you may
Speaker 1: have to take it away at some point. And then
Speaker 1: we're I talk right now. You're probably gonna be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, we should edit some of this out,
Speaker 1: but no, we want to talk about the how deep
Speaker 1: Ohio State is going to go on offense. And this
Speaker 1: is not you know, how many guys are going to
Speaker 1: play against Kent State. This is basically the regular rotation,
Speaker 1: position by position, who is going to play, whether that's
Speaker 1: Texas Iowa games that are still in doubt and are
Speaker 1: not the blowout type games, so players are going to
Speaker 1: play regularly. When they're out there, it doesn't catch you
Speaker 1: off guard. It may catch you off guard the first time,
Speaker 1: but then you're like, oh, okay, well this this game
Speaker 1: is still in doubt and he's playing meaningful minutes. So
Speaker 1: I wanted to go position by position. We'll start offensively
Speaker 1: with this show and Tom, how much time do we
Speaker 1: need to spend on a quarterback?
Speaker 3: One? Next position?
Speaker 1: Running backs? Tom? This is an interesting one because they
Speaker 1: brought in Jakobe Jackson. They didn't bring him to sit,
Speaker 1: they didn't bring him to carry the ball twenty times.
Speaker 1: But also like, he's got some skills, he's got some
Speaker 1: things that you want. He's a veteran. He's done it
Speaker 1: against Texas. So while he played against Texas, I tend
Speaker 1: to think so because he's done it, he's is he
Speaker 1: the only guy on the team who's done it before?
Speaker 1: In terms of the running backs, Yeah, there's that. So
Speaker 1: against like a Texas, Tom, I'm gonna say comfortably, four
Speaker 1: running backs will play.
Speaker 2: That's what I would have as well. And is it
Speaker 2: possible that one of them doesn't play? But you four
Speaker 2: running backs against Iowa or in Illinois, a couple weeks later. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: But I think you're looking at Bo Jackson, Isaiah West,
Speaker 2: Jakobe Jackson, Legend Bay all getting at least a few snaps.
Speaker 2: And it may be sort of situational. Maybe hey, you
Speaker 2: need you want to put Legend Bay out there. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's as a decoy, maybe it's as a run the
Speaker 2: Legend Bay do something cool, play, whatever it is. I
Speaker 2: think you're going to see four guys out there in
Speaker 2: meaningful snaps in the first month of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And we always use the example of Bo Jackson
Speaker 1: not playing against Texas last year because there was just
Speaker 1: concern and you didn't want to throw a true freshmen
Speaker 1: out there against Texas. So that's why using Texas this
Speaker 1: year as an example is, and it can't be the
Speaker 1: only example because it's a little too a little too
Speaker 1: constricted in terms of as we saw last year, what
Speaker 1: happens against Texas isn't necessarily what happens against the rest
Speaker 1: of the schedule, especially as things go on. When Iver
Speaker 1: shocked to see Terbol Rodgers against in Iowa or Maryland. No,
Speaker 1: but also I'm talking guys that are gonna play basically
Speaker 1: every game, and I think those four, barring anything unforeseen,
Speaker 1: like they will be part of the regular lineup. Receiver
Speaker 1: gets really interesting to me, and I'll let you go first.
Speaker 1: I'll get your thoughts, and I'll let you know how
Speaker 1: right or wrong you are. I think as I'm talking
Speaker 1: over you, I think we know the guys that will
Speaker 1: be out there. Can some other guys get in that
Speaker 1: group and make them even deeper?
Speaker 2: I feel like my default answer here is six guys,
Speaker 2: and that's a little deeper than they've run the last
Speaker 2: couple of years. There's been a lot of years where
Speaker 2: it was four or five guys at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 3: I think they've got a little bit more depth this year.
Speaker 3: I don't have a super super high.
Speaker 2: Degree of confidence on naming exactly the six guys you're
Speaker 2: gonna see probably six against Texas.
Speaker 3: But is that going to be?
Speaker 2: You know, where where does Kyle Parker have been in there?
Speaker 2: We just we haven't really seen Kyle Parker this month.
Speaker 2: Before this fall, I would have said Kyle Parker for sure,
Speaker 2: is he in that group? We just we haven't seen
Speaker 2: a lot of him this month, so we you know,
Speaker 2: we really don't know. But you know, I think you've
Speaker 2: got Jeremiah Smith, Brandon Nis, Dev McEwan, Chris Henry. I
Speaker 2: think Brock Boyd's in that conversation. It may be Kyle
Speaker 2: Parker and maybe Dez Jones, who sounds like he's come
Speaker 2: on strong in the last week or so. Could be
Speaker 2: Philip Bell. You know, later in the year, we could
Speaker 2: be talking about JR. Quaden Guildford. I think that's probably
Speaker 2: more of a well we'll see in October or November
Speaker 2: kind of of conversation. But I think you're going to
Speaker 2: see a rotation from Cortez Hankton that's going to end
Speaker 2: up around six. But the specific names could vary a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 3: Week to week.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Jerre Quaiden Guildford and the eventual rise that
Speaker 1: we could see from him. TJ. Alford this past week
Speaker 1: mentioned him and said he's gonna got some Jamison Williams
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson stuff to him, and I'm like, wow, you're
Speaker 1: quite the receiver officionado for one. But also those are
Speaker 1: some pretty bold wide receiver names. But I mean, you
Speaker 1: watched the Hottle highlights and you can see where that's
Speaker 1: coming from. But yeah, I think he's gonna be one
Speaker 1: shock if he's playing against Maryland or something like that.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be six guys against Texas, and
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be the four veterans and then
Speaker 1: Chris Henry Junior and Rock Boyd as guys that when
Speaker 1: are out there, it's not a surprise, and know you'll
Speaker 1: look and you'll see like you'll be on the field,
Speaker 1: Jack and I will be up in the press box
Speaker 1: and basically just keep an eye out, like Okay, who's
Speaker 1: out there now. And that's what we're gonna be doing
Speaker 1: for every position because the first game is gonna be
Speaker 1: a little bit of a lie, the second game will
Speaker 1: be some really confined truth, and then beyond that the
Speaker 1: truth will spread in terms of who plays and who doesn't.
Speaker 1: But if you're out there in this game, then you are.
Speaker 1: You are in the rotation. So that's why I wanted
Speaker 1: to kind of go through this exercise. Tight ends. I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see Nate and like against Texas, Iowa, Oregon,
Speaker 1: you're gonna see Nate Roberts. You're gonna see Mason Williams.
Speaker 1: You're gonna see Hunter Wilson, You're gonna see Bennett Christian
Speaker 1: and I mean Max LeBlanc from what we've seen this
Speaker 1: side of Good Camp. But I think those four I'm
Speaker 1: comfortable saying we'll be out there. Everybody that we've talked
Speaker 1: to in terms of the tight ends has said that
Speaker 1: this room was deeper than they were last year. We know,
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty four, they played five guys at
Speaker 1: any given time, whether that was Patrick Kurd or yes,
Speaker 1: Patrick Gord being the full back type or whatever. They
Speaker 1: just they all had their roles and I think this
Speaker 1: year they're going to have their roles as well. But
Speaker 1: they also, like, you got more guys that can do
Speaker 1: two things rather than just three guys that can do
Speaker 1: their one thing. So I think four, at least four
Speaker 1: is a pretty comfortable answer for me.
Speaker 3: I think four is the right answer.
Speaker 2: And this is a little like wide receiver, where the
Speaker 2: four names might vary a little bit as the season
Speaker 2: goes along, but I think those are I think four
Speaker 2: is the correct number, and I think I would sort
Speaker 2: of start the year with the four names that you mentioned,
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe Max LeBlanc ends up earning a
Speaker 2: bigger role and that takes snaps away from someone else.
Speaker 2: You're not going to be able to play five tight ends.
Speaker 2: Twenty snap siege like that's just that's not going to happen,
Speaker 2: So he will probably be I think Keenan Bailey is
Speaker 2: going to want to get of these as many of
Speaker 2: these guys on the field to do, you know, the
Speaker 2: individual stuff that they're the best at as much as
Speaker 2: he possibly can.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think four is a good number there
Speaker 3: for the tight end room on.
Speaker 1: The offensive line. Ideally, if everything goes perfect, perfect against
Speaker 1: Texas against whomever, five guys that's all it's going to play.
Speaker 1: Now if they go actually ideally would be ten, I
Speaker 1: guess is what we should say. Ideally the first team
Speaker 1: is out there for three quarters max. Against the Texas longboards,
Speaker 1: and then because Ohio State is up by so many points,
Speaker 1: you want to go ahead and get the reserves in there.
Speaker 1: But how many offensive linemen do you expect? We've seen
Speaker 1: the rotation at guard before in any given game that
Speaker 1: is close to it is a say it's a matchup game.
Speaker 1: What are you expecting to see from the offensive line.
Speaker 2: I think you've got a possibility of six guys.
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna have.
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be looking for ways to
Speaker 2: maybe get Josh Padilla out there, and.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's giving him a drive here and there, or maybe.
Speaker 2: That's using him in that Bison package that they've shown
Speaker 2: before in short yardage. I feel like he is close
Speaker 2: enough to being ready to play that you're going to
Speaker 2: be looking for ways to get him on the field.
Speaker 2: And you know, we've talked about this on other shows before.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's just giving someone a rest for a drive.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's just giving him a chance to just you know,
Speaker 2: get up to speed on certain things. This may not
Speaker 2: be in every week thing, but I think he's close
Speaker 2: enough to being.
Speaker 3: A starter that they're going to be looking for ways
Speaker 3: to work him in there.
Speaker 2: This is not the Jim Tressel era the twos get
Speaker 2: a drive with the you know in the second quarter,
Speaker 2: like we're not, we're not talking about that, but I
Speaker 2: think this is going This is close enough to a
Speaker 2: starting five plus one that you'll probably see that does
Speaker 2: that maybe get like a Jake Cook on the field
Speaker 2: or something like that, or you know something, maybe it's
Speaker 2: possible gave Ben Sickle someone like that.
Speaker 3: You may see them at times in this kind of
Speaker 3: that kind of role as well.
Speaker 2: But I think right now between I'm kind of between
Speaker 2: five and six here with Josh Pidia kind of being
Speaker 2: the swing guy.
Speaker 1: It is amazing twenty years ago when Ohio State went
Speaker 1: into Austin knowing that the year before, losing Texas cost
Speaker 1: them basically you know, that was maybe maybe eliminated them
Speaker 1: that one year later, they'd go into Austin and throw
Speaker 1: out the second team offensive line and I think the
Speaker 1: second quarter and they'd go and lead them down on
Speaker 1: a touchdown drive. And that was something that Jim Drussell
Speaker 1: always did. And uh, you know early in the season
Speaker 1: to give everybody an opportunity. I'm not expecting that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see six six man line. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that means Josh Padilla goes in at right guard
Speaker 1: and then Austin Seerveld and Philip Daniels each kick out
Speaker 1: one spot. So you've got like Phillip Daniels as the
Speaker 1: extra tackle type of thing. But yeah, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I if five guys, if six guys play, it's not
Speaker 1: gonna catch me off guard. It's not gonna catch shouldn't
Speaker 1: catch anybody off guard. It's just an added feature to
Speaker 1: that offensive line. When you've got six guys that they
Speaker 1: feel can play. Now that's up to Josh Padilla to
Speaker 1: show that he can play. So so there you go,
Speaker 1: some some rotational discussion for you on who we think
Speaker 1: is going to play in the bigger games. And that's
Speaker 1: we're for focus maybe maybe more on September October, and
Speaker 1: we'll see if things get deeper as the season goes
Speaker 1: or if they kind of get rained in because well,
Speaker 1: we tried to give you a role like you know
Speaker 1: last year, Blatkinson being out there and then less and
Speaker 1: less as the season goes. So that's always interesting to
Speaker 1: think the thing to watch, who plays less, who plays more,
Speaker 1: and if you want to find all of that out
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