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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome to the buck Eye Weekly Podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Daman here as always with Tom or Tom. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a pre pause pause. How's it going, Tony?

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<v Speaker 2>Just to answer the unanswered question here, I'm expecting two

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<v Speaker 2>people to contribute to this podcast. That may be giving

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<v Speaker 2>you too much credit, but I'm trying to be up

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<v Speaker 2>you know, upbeat this time of year.

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<v Speaker 3>And give you as much credit as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, wow, Tom, but this is gonna be a tough

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<v Speaker 1>show for you, and I appreciate you being a hero,

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<v Speaker 1>if not a warrior all of this stuff to power

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<v Speaker 1>through this show and give me credit at the outset

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see if the credit remains or you may

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<v Speaker 1>have to take it away at some point. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we're I talk right now. You're probably gonna be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, we should edit some of this out,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, we want to talk about the how deep

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State is going to go on offense. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is not you know, how many guys are going to

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<v Speaker 1>play against Kent State. This is basically the regular rotation,

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<v Speaker 1>position by position, who is going to play, whether that's

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Iowa games that are still in doubt and are

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<v Speaker 1>not the blowout type games, so players are going to

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<v Speaker 1>play regularly. When they're out there, it doesn't catch you

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<v Speaker 1>off guard. It may catch you off guard the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you're like, oh, okay, well this this game

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<v Speaker 1>is still in doubt and he's playing meaningful minutes. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go position by position. We'll start offensively

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<v Speaker 1>with this show and Tom, how much time do we

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<v Speaker 1>need to spend on a quarterback?

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<v Speaker 3>One? Next position?

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<v Speaker 1>Running backs? Tom? This is an interesting one because they

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<v Speaker 1>brought in Jakobe Jackson. They didn't bring him to sit,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't bring him to carry the ball twenty times.

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<v Speaker 1>But also like, he's got some skills, he's got some

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<v Speaker 1>things that you want. He's a veteran. He's done it

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<v Speaker 1>against Texas. So while he played against Texas, I tend

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<v Speaker 1>to think so because he's done it, he's is he

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<v Speaker 1>the only guy on the team who's done it before?

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of the running backs, Yeah, there's that. So

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<v Speaker 1>against like a Texas, Tom, I'm gonna say comfortably, four

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<v Speaker 1>running backs will play.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I would have as well. And is it

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<v Speaker 2>possible that one of them doesn't play? But you four

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<v Speaker 2>running backs against Iowa or in Illinois, a couple weeks later. Yeah. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think you're looking at Bo Jackson, Isaiah West,

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<v Speaker 2>Jakobe Jackson, Legend Bay all getting at least a few snaps.

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<v Speaker 2>And it may be sort of situational. Maybe hey, you

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<v Speaker 2>need you want to put Legend Bay out there. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's as a decoy, maybe it's as a run the

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<v Speaker 2>Legend Bay do something cool, play, whatever it is. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're going to see four guys out there in

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<v Speaker 2>meaningful snaps in the first month of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And we always use the example of Bo Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>not playing against Texas last year because there was just

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<v Speaker 1>concern and you didn't want to throw a true freshmen

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<v Speaker 1>out there against Texas. So that's why using Texas this

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<v Speaker 1>year as an example is, and it can't be the

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<v Speaker 1>only example because it's a little too a little too

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<v Speaker 1>constricted in terms of as we saw last year, what

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<v Speaker 1>happens against Texas isn't necessarily what happens against the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the schedule, especially as things go on. When Iver

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<v Speaker 1>shocked to see Terbol Rodgers against in Iowa or Maryland. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but also I'm talking guys that are gonna play basically

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<v Speaker 1>every game, and I think those four, barring anything unforeseen,

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<v Speaker 1>like they will be part of the regular lineup. Receiver

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<v Speaker 1>gets really interesting to me, and I'll let you go first.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get your thoughts, and I'll let you know how

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<v Speaker 1>right or wrong you are. I think as I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>over you, I think we know the guys that will

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<v Speaker 1>be out there. Can some other guys get in that

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<v Speaker 1>group and make them even deeper?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like my default answer here is six guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a little deeper than they've run the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years. There's been a lot of years where

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<v Speaker 2>it was four or five guys at the wide receiver position.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they've got a little bit more depth this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a super super high.

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<v Speaker 2>Degree of confidence on naming exactly the six guys you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see probably six against Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>But is that going to be?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, where where does Kyle Parker have been in there?

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<v Speaker 2>We just we haven't really seen Kyle Parker this month.

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<v Speaker 2>Before this fall, I would have said Kyle Parker for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>is he in that group? We just we haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of him this month, so we you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we really don't know. But you know, I think you've

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<v Speaker 2>got Jeremiah Smith, Brandon Nis, Dev McEwan, Chris Henry. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Brock Boyd's in that conversation. It may be Kyle

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<v Speaker 2>Parker and maybe Dez Jones, who sounds like he's come

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<v Speaker 2>on strong in the last week or so. Could be

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<v Speaker 2>Philip Bell. You know, later in the year, we could

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about JR. Quaden Guildford. I think that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>more of a well we'll see in October or November

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<v Speaker 2>kind of of conversation. But I think you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see a rotation from Cortez Hankton that's going to end

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<v Speaker 2>up around six. But the specific names could vary a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Week to week.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Jerre Quaiden Guildford and the eventual rise that

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<v Speaker 1>we could see from him. TJ. Alford this past week

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned him and said he's gonna got some Jamison Williams

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett Wilson stuff to him, and I'm like, wow, you're

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<v Speaker 1>quite the receiver officionado for one. But also those are

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty bold wide receiver names. But I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>watched the Hottle highlights and you can see where that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming from. But yeah, I think he's gonna be one

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<v Speaker 1>shock if he's playing against Maryland or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be six guys against Texas, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be the four veterans and then

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Henry Junior and Rock Boyd as guys that when

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<v Speaker 1>are out there, it's not a surprise, and know you'll

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<v Speaker 1>look and you'll see like you'll be on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack and I will be up in the press box

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<v Speaker 1>and basically just keep an eye out, like Okay, who's

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<v Speaker 1>out there now. And that's what we're gonna be doing

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<v Speaker 1>for every position because the first game is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a lie, the second game will

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<v Speaker 1>be some really confined truth, and then beyond that the

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<v Speaker 1>truth will spread in terms of who plays and who doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're out there in this game, then you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You are in the rotation. So that's why I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of go through this exercise. Tight ends. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're gonna see Nate and like against Texas, Iowa, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see Nate Roberts. You're gonna see Mason Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna see Hunter Wilson, You're gonna see Bennett Christian

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean Max LeBlanc from what we've seen this

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<v Speaker 1>side of Good Camp. But I think those four I'm

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable saying we'll be out there. Everybody that we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>to in terms of the tight ends has said that

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<v Speaker 1>this room was deeper than they were last year. We know,

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty twenty four, they played five guys at

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Gord being the full back type or whatever. They

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<v Speaker 1>just they all had their roles and I think this

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<v Speaker 1>year they're going to have their roles as well. But

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<v Speaker 1>they also, like, you got more guys that can do

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<v Speaker 1>two things rather than just three guys that can do

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<v Speaker 1>their one thing. So I think four, at least four

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<v Speaker 1>is a pretty comfortable answer for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think four is the right answer.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a little like wide receiver, where the

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<v Speaker 2>four names might vary a little bit as the season

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<v Speaker 2>goes along, but I think those are I think four

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<v Speaker 2>is the correct number, and I think I would sort

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<v Speaker 2>of start the year with the four names that you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, maybe Max LeBlanc ends up earning a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger role and that takes snaps away from someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to be able to play five tight ends.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty snap siege like that's just that's not going to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>So he will probably be I think Keenan Bailey is

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<v Speaker 2>going to want to get of these as many of

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<v Speaker 2>these guys on the field to do, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>individual stuff that they're the best at as much as

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<v Speaker 2>he possibly can.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think four is a good number there

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<v Speaker 3>for the tight end room on.

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<v Speaker 1>The offensive line. Ideally, if everything goes perfect, perfect against

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<v Speaker 1>Texas against whomever, five guys that's all it's going to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Now if they go actually ideally would be ten, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess is what we should say. Ideally the first team

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<v Speaker 1>is out there for three quarters max. Against the Texas longboards,

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<v Speaker 1>and then because Ohio State is up by so many points,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go ahead and get the reserves in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But how many offensive linemen do you expect? We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the rotation at guard before in any given game that

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<v Speaker 1>is close to it is a say it's a matchup game.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you expecting to see from the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've got a possibility of six guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're gonna have.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're going to be looking for ways to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe get Josh Padilla out there, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's giving him a drive here and there, or maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>That's using him in that Bison package that they've shown

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<v Speaker 2>before in short yardage. I feel like he is close

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<v Speaker 2>enough to being ready to play that you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be looking for ways to get him on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we've talked about this on other shows before.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's just giving someone a rest for a drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's just giving him a chance to just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get up to speed on certain things. This may not

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<v Speaker 2>be in every week thing, but I think he's close

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<v Speaker 2>enough to being.

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<v Speaker 3>A starter that they're going to be looking for ways

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<v Speaker 3>to work him in there.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not the Jim Tressel era the twos get

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<v Speaker 2>a drive with the you know in the second quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>like we're not, we're not talking about that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is going This is close enough to a

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<v Speaker 2>starting five plus one that you'll probably see that does

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe get like a Jake Cook on the field

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, or you know something, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>possible gave Ben Sickle someone like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You may see them at times in this kind of

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of role as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think right now between I'm kind of between

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<v Speaker 2>five and six here with Josh Pidia kind of being

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<v Speaker 1>It is amazing twenty years ago when Ohio State went

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<v Speaker 1>into Austin knowing that the year before, losing Texas cost

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<v Speaker 1>them basically you know, that was maybe maybe eliminated them

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<v Speaker 1>that one year later, they'd go into Austin and throw

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<v Speaker 1>out the second team offensive line and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>second quarter and they'd go and lead them down on

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown drive. And that was something that Jim Drussell

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<v Speaker 1>to give everybody an opportunity. I'm not expecting that, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see six six man line. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that means Josh Padilla goes in at right guard

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<v Speaker 1>one spot. So you've got like Phillip Daniels as the

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<v Speaker 1>I if five guys, if six guys play, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>some some rotational discussion for you on who we think

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<v Speaker 1>or if they kind of get rained in because well,

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<v Speaker 1>last year, Blatkinson being out there and then less and

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<v Speaker 1>less as the season goes. So that's always interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>think the thing to watch, who plays less, who plays more,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you want to find all of that out

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<v Speaker 1>watched during the season, we'll be talking about over at

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<v Speaker 1>Buckeye Insiders dot com, talking about snap counts, talking about production,

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<v Speaker 1>that there. If you're just into football, we're definitely talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that x's and o's, recruiting, all kinds of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see you over there. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute best way to support what we do. So

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<v Speaker 1>we invite you there Buckeye Insiders dot Com that we'll

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<v Speaker 1>do it from here. Thank you all for tuning in,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will talk to you all later. This time,

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<v Speaker 1>what else you.

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<v Speaker 1>Where I, where my Fay.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can tell me, that's the more it's all right.

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<v Speaker 3>We could see your currently no