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<v Speaker 2>He hopped down.

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<v Speaker 1>next pitch he up and stole second face.

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<v Speaker 3>With gradest be He wasn't fun, he had yes uniforn.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Hey, welcome to episode thirty eight of the Prospect

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<v Speaker 2>B Sides podcast. I am Nate, Handy and Natty to

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<v Speaker 2>the Natty is here. What it has been? What's up, dude?

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a minute. Apologies, like a life things, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just an episode a week. Thing just hasn't been happening.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're still at it now. My my freaking laptop

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<v Speaker 2>is on its last leg. It has been rough, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I can I can watch a game, I can watch

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<v Speaker 2>a video where it's like if I touch anything, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I accidentally touch a key, the thing just like crashes.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I know how that goes. I just got

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<v Speaker 4>a new computer myself, and it has been so nice

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<v Speaker 4>to have a computer that works. Yeah, of course, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just for work stuff, so it's less useful for our

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<v Speaker 4>podcasting and deep dives on deep league fantasy prospects. But

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<v Speaker 4>it is nice to have a working computer, except that,

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<v Speaker 4>like the computer works, and then have I told you

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<v Speaker 4>about this saga that I've been had going on with

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<v Speaker 4>my internet? Like I get it that the internet service

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<v Speaker 4>providers are monopolies and they're notorious for having the worst

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<v Speaker 4>customer service, but it's just different when you have to

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<v Speaker 4>deal with it. Like knowing that that's a fact and

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<v Speaker 4>that other people have to deal with it, you're like, ah,

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<v Speaker 4>that sucks. I hate Comcast, I hate CenturyLink, whatever. But

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<v Speaker 4>then you actually experience it, and it feels like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in a dystopian future every time I talk to them,

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<v Speaker 4>where it's should you not? Today I was on hold

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<v Speaker 4>with them for three and a half hours today, three

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<v Speaker 4>and a half hours for the guy to say, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna I'm really gonna own this problem. We're gonna get

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<v Speaker 4>it fixed. And he looks it up and it's an

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<v Speaker 4>area problem, he says, and it has nothing to do with me,

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<v Speaker 4>and he can't help me. And I was like, but buddy,

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<v Speaker 4>that might be true, there might be a widespread problem.

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<v Speaker 4>But also, here's these other three things that you guys

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<v Speaker 4>have done to my internet in the last month that

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<v Speaker 4>are driving me crazy, and you can't fix them. You

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<v Speaker 4>can't fix them. What's going on? And he's like, I

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<v Speaker 4>can't help you with that. What we'll call you back

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<v Speaker 4>when when we fix the bigger problem. I'm like, you're

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna call me back. I'm gonna spend tomorrow on

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<v Speaker 4>hold with you again. And it's just it's like being

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<v Speaker 4>a fan of the White Sox. I guess you know

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<v Speaker 4>where you're just like, you don't have a choice. You're

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<v Speaker 4>from the South Side and you're like, I'm gonna like

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<v Speaker 4>the White Sox. Maybe you had that one year in

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and five where you're like, oh, this team

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<v Speaker 4>of Destiny and we won the World Series. I love

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<v Speaker 4>fat Mark Burley. It's great. And now you're sucked in

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<v Speaker 4>and you have no choice and you're a fan of

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<v Speaker 4>the team that's going to break the record for the

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<v Speaker 4>most losses in the season. I mean, it just sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>You're poking a couple of sore spots there with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I lived that nightmare with the nightmare or with the

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<v Speaker 2>internet a couple of summers ago, Matt where I had

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<v Speaker 2>there's nobody who would give me the internet. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a Metropolin, Denver and no internet, just none. No

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<v Speaker 2>one could help me. I don't want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the White Sox Man. But I do have to say

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<v Speaker 2>this might be a dangerous night to be doing a podcast, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm in a mood. Man I am. I am

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<v Speaker 2>jazzed up. It's playoff season. I've just got like I've

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<v Speaker 2>just got like rage against the machine. Just like in

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<v Speaker 2>my head, I want to run into somebody. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk shit like it's it's like it's like fring

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<v Speaker 2>training and like this time of year where I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>like all the jerk juices just get flowing in me.

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<v Speaker 2>So just a pos I had a time. You may

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<v Speaker 2>catch a few strays here. I don't know what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. I just my mouth is liable to run

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<v Speaker 2>off here.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm here for it. I fought with an ISP

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<v Speaker 4>today and had a bunch of tough work meetings and

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm I'm I'm ready to get fisy. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>We're right for We're right for a fight here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>could get fun. This could get fun. Maybe start off

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the Welsh is p one EIGHTYP drafts that

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<v Speaker 2>he does. I participated in one. It's always fun. I

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<v Speaker 2>always like to talk a little smack. But I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>undisputed prospect mock Draft champion every year, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously no one can disprove that. But I sent you

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<v Speaker 2>over my little draft there, and I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to pick your brain. And I make any

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<v Speaker 2>good choices that I make, any bad choices that I

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<v Speaker 2>represent this podcast well in my showing there. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think so that he does five different drafts, twelve

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<v Speaker 2>teams a piece, you do one hundred and eighty picks

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<v Speaker 2>a piece, and then he just aggregate it all and

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of use that as a little barometer prospect

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<v Speaker 2>opinion that might be out there. And he does these

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, people who do content, people who play.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good mix of folks. It's a fun time.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a kind of a fun draft. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Welsh was in it, and Beck was in it. Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>Ponce was in it. Nice, Nice, a couple other industry

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<v Speaker 2>for Beck was my my drafting neighbor. And he was

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<v Speaker 2>a good neighbor. He didn't he didn't piss me off

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<v Speaker 2>at all. You know, he was after he was after

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<v Speaker 2>his whatever losers, and that was taking the studs.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. And the idea is this is like Roto or.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not really generic, not really specific, yeah, more or less.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Welsh is like he's like a head to

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<v Speaker 2>have cats player, I think is his main deal. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just kind of played it like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I love your first pick, which was Jason

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<v Speaker 4>Dominguez at sixth overall. You know, I think there's a

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<v Speaker 4>decent chance in a roto type format that he returns

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<v Speaker 4>first overall pick. I imagine what a holiday would.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like would holiday Cam and Aro left. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember who went like fifth and six, maybe Jenkins.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jenkins might have went before Duke.

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<v Speaker 4>But okay, yeah, no, no, I mean so maybe if

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<v Speaker 4>I was sitting at one, I would take Wood over Dominga's,

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<v Speaker 4>but that might be it for me. Like I know,

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<v Speaker 4>Domingas hasn't set the world on fire coming back from

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<v Speaker 4>injury this year, and you know, we'll see when he

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<v Speaker 4>gets to New York how things shake out. But people

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<v Speaker 4>forget that he steals maces really well, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>the power really plays. So I think that's just a

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<v Speaker 4>great pick.

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<v Speaker 2>At sick, I figured that you would, that you'd endorse

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<v Speaker 2>that you've talked fondly of his dynasty value.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then at nineteen overall taking Andrew Paynter. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>surprised you waited that long, like I mean sitting him

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<v Speaker 4>there at six, Like, I'm I kind of think you

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<v Speaker 4>might have considered hovering over that key.

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<v Speaker 2>At my top of my key was Jaye Amond on

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<v Speaker 2>Painter right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm not surprised. So that's I think good value

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<v Speaker 4>there too. Like there are not that many really great

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<v Speaker 4>pictures in the minor and Painter I still think is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be one of them. So I thought that

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<v Speaker 4>was a good pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Beck was right in front of me and he took

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<v Speaker 2>the first picture Job, and then I took Painter.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, okay, yeah, I think I prefer Painter did job.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Job was great last year, but we might

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<v Speaker 4>have mentioned this that the innings were a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>a concern and then obviously the command has kind of

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<v Speaker 4>backed up this year for Job. Still like him long term,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, because what he did last year was really good.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, and the injury thing Painters at least was

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<v Speaker 4>just an elbow, right, we know about those jobs is

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<v Speaker 4>like Job's is like back and leg or something. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. So anyway, I like that thirty. I think

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<v Speaker 4>this is probably the first pick where a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>other people were like, really, you know moistis by Asteros.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you get any chirps on this one?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Not No, not too much, I don't think. But

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you'd like that. I thought you'd back me

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<v Speaker 2>on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I certainly do. And at thirty again, like I might

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<v Speaker 4>have played the game a little bit and tried to

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<v Speaker 4>see if I can float him down into the forties

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<v Speaker 4>because I think most people don't have him that high.

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<v Speaker 4>But remember this dude is like twenty years old and

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<v Speaker 4>just crushing double A and triple A as a real,

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<v Speaker 4>real young guy. And I think, you know, people knock

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<v Speaker 4>him because he looks like a bowling ball. Fine, you

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<v Speaker 4>can do that, but he really really knows how to hit.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just love that kind of guy. So definite

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<v Speaker 4>co sign there. Again, speed's not going to be part

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<v Speaker 4>of his game. He's a catcher and that's probably his

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<v Speaker 4>best position. So if he slides down the defensive spectrum,

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to be more three or four category production.

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<v Speaker 4>So I could see like the upside being a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit limited there. But I think that bat is real, real,

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<v Speaker 4>so love that one.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a hitter. To me, it's a hit or play

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<v Speaker 2>with position, whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Going down your picture real quick quick, Ethan Sallas. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean this time last year you couldn't have gotten him

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<v Speaker 4>at forty three. He's still super young, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of great baseball reasons to like him.

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<v Speaker 4>I still question what the fantasy impact parts to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Jordan Beck, I know you like him. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 4>him on the pod before. He was your next one

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<v Speaker 4>at fifty four, Caid Cavali at sixty seven. I like

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<v Speaker 4>this one. He hasn't shown as much as I thought

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<v Speaker 4>he would coming back, but just.

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<v Speaker 2>He's came back for a little bit then been on

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<v Speaker 2>the shelf and I don't know what's going on with him.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, we've talked about him before though that, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm with you on this, like I think the skills

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<v Speaker 4>there are really good and hopefully the health pulls it

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<v Speaker 4>back together. That's the real risk with him and with

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<v Speaker 4>lots of pictures. And then I see your horse Caden Dana,

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<v Speaker 4>who I've been giving you a hard time that he's

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<v Speaker 4>more circus, uh Mary go around pony rather than true thoroughbred.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's very good and I do think he is

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<v Speaker 4>a solid picture. I think The thing about him that

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<v Speaker 4>is interesting that you've identified is that he does seem

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to hold his stuff and work deep

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<v Speaker 4>into games. I questioned the kind of ultimate strikeout upside

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<v Speaker 4>I see him settling in more as like you're who's

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<v Speaker 4>a good example of this? He says like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know Stroman without the ground balls. I just think that

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<v Speaker 4>the strike up upside isn't going to be huge with him,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's a decent pitcher and is going to get out.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's more Merril Kelly kind of ask, is a

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<v Speaker 4>like upside version of this. Maybe I think that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been impressed with just him literally adding just another

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<v Speaker 2>dimension to his to his game this season, Like there's

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<v Speaker 2>year and you know, still very young. Love to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows what he might be able to add, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>He's very young too, and seeing him progress this quickly,

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<v Speaker 4>lot of high school pitchers who people have loved and

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<v Speaker 4>they haven't had this kind of progression. So honestly, kudos

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<v Speaker 4>to him. His development has been really good. And then

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<v Speaker 4>just a couple of quick hitters here. PJ. Moorlando, I

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<v Speaker 4>with our offseason stuff. Drew Romo, I like that pick

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<v Speaker 4>at one oh two. I've still think he's a really

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's some other catchers that I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>Of times I was thinking about another catcher, but I

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And surprisingly, I think a lot of the catchers

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<v Speaker 4>kind of down maybe, but I feel like the catchers

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<v Speaker 4>have kind of showed out decently this year and moved

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<v Speaker 4>up boards pretty well. Then Maser and Burrows like both

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<v Speaker 4>of these guys, both near to the bigs, both sort

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<v Speaker 4>of like four or five kind of pictures maybe with

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<v Speaker 4>if they figure something out a little bit more upside.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm a fan of both growing.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like at that point, I felt like earlier

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, all right, I'm not like super convinced

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a ton of everyday bats out here, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>who are some arms I don't mind taking a gamble on?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and those are good ones back in top hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and early top one fifty kinds good old Chucky McAdoo

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<v Speaker 4>Charles McAdoo now in Toronto, which is so weird to me.

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<v Speaker 4>But one of our boys got trade deadline. He was

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<v Speaker 4>a good pick. Us Baiaz another guy that we like.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've been a fan of Robbie Snelling though I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's the first one where I'm like, really, there

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<v Speaker 4>was nobody better than Robbie Snelling there at one sixty three.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not forgetting twenty twenty three. And did you see

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<v Speaker 2>the start that he had yesterday?

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<v Speaker 4>I did not.

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<v Speaker 2>He shoved for six innings. All right, that's fair. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>take some criticism on that. I think with him. Jesse

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<v Speaker 2>Severe had me on Dynasty Sports Life pod last week

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<v Speaker 2>and we just talked about some the prospects that got traded,

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<v Speaker 2>not pretty boys, the other guys just talking then, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, a bet on him is just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like intangible sort of stuff. Obviously, the

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<v Speaker 2>performance hasn't been that great this year, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty freaking awesome last year. And then who knows, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a little change of scenery might might be good for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe a little bit more hands on direction with the

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Jays. I don't know, but that's the hope anyways.

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<v Speaker 4>With the Marlins, right, Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. With

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<v Speaker 4>the Mars, Robbie, Yeah, and that regiment there in Miami,

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<v Speaker 4>I think they have done a pretty good job at

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<v Speaker 4>least of the targets they've gone after, and coming from

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<v Speaker 4>the Rays, that organization maybe has a bit more analytical

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<v Speaker 4>bent than they have previously. So it's not like getting

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<v Speaker 4>traded to the Marlins now is like, oh shit, that

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<v Speaker 4>guy's gone to a dev team that they don't know

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<v Speaker 4>anything about what they're doing. So in that case, I

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<v Speaker 4>think some people used to feel that way about the Marlins,

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<v Speaker 4>and rightly or wrongly, but yeah, it's not a terrible

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<v Speaker 4>landing spot for Snelling and he definitely has some talent.

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<v Speaker 4>But for me, at this stage in the one sixties,

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<v Speaker 4>one seventies, I personally probably would have been looking for bats.

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<v Speaker 4>But we are different humans and then you with your

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<v Speaker 4>guy Ryan Gusto.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was just a little fun one. Ye see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens there. He's still been really good man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and starts now that he is uh, he's carving.

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<v Speaker 4>People don't give that enough credit, like you is no joke, man.

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<v Speaker 4>The run environment there is crazy and if you have

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<v Speaker 4>any kind of success like this is the ole. I

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<v Speaker 4>remember getting into a bunch of arguments about this with

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<v Speaker 4>with people a couple of years ago. I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was like Gavin Stone or something where I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>this guy's really good, Like he just chopped up the

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<v Speaker 4>PCL and that's really hard to do. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>had some bumps in the bigs and then kind of

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<v Speaker 4>has figured it out a little bit. But anyway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a hard place to pitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like I represented us all right there?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I get?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>This is this is solid? This is really really solid.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't have the whole board here, so you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure there's some that I would qubble with more

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<v Speaker 4>looking at the whole board. It's been a minute since

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<v Speaker 4>I've done any kind of prospecting draft like this, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think you did really well. At the top and

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<v Speaker 4>that matters the most, and then you got a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of fun guy in the middle of it. I think

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<v Speaker 4>are gonna very likely to return value, which is another

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<v Speaker 4>thing that's interesting about these Like you see people going

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<v Speaker 4>after your Mizerowskis and you're kind of super high upside

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<v Speaker 4>young guys that are doing great, but like you're George

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<v Speaker 4>Wolcose or whatever who have forty percent strikeout rates in

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<v Speaker 4>a ball and they're like, oh, but it's the power,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're like, well, but is he ever going to

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<v Speaker 4>touch the ball enough to make that matter? Like, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think my biggest takeaway from being involved in that

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<v Speaker 2>was what I kind of felt to be. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the pretty boys are struggling right now. I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of grasping for some pretty boy hope,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like Jenkins being a top ten pick.

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<v Speaker 4>People love him man, and I just don't freaking get it.

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<v Speaker 4>The strikeout rates ticking up into the mid teens. He's

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<v Speaker 4>not hitting for power. I'm just like, like, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I felt like the you know you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about first round, second round, top twenty thirty or so,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of young, lesser proven bats that were

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<v Speaker 2>being taken than I think years past, and that might

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<v Speaker 2>just be kind of the way of the land right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I thought that was kind of interesting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like way more into sort of searching through

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<v Speaker 2>the higher level more I do maybe past B side

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<v Speaker 2>or B Saide esque bats right now for some teams

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm trying to you know, reload or get some

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<v Speaker 2>value out of pretty quick here. You know, like we've

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<v Speaker 2>had some some B sides that have recently got the

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<v Speaker 2>call up. Matt Baldwin, Natcho Herder, Gaparo, Tanya's back up.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he was, He's been up before, but up

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<v Speaker 2>with his new team the Nats now really kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about what might be what might might be the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of next wave for guys like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Sonoya Terso I think is real close. Yeah, real interesting. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, there's there's definitely my RAS thirty team.

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<v Speaker 2>I've definitely said. I even had some and made some

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<v Speaker 2>trades and had some younger guys and I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, screw this, I'm going to cash all these

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<v Speaker 2>guys in to try to get these types that are

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<v Speaker 2>close and just just see how it goes. I like it,

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<v Speaker 2>have a little fun. And then that the last thing

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<v Speaker 2>on the P one ADP that I always find interesting

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<v Speaker 2>when we do this thing. It's one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 2>pick draft, right, there's five of them. How many total

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<v Speaker 2>players do you think we're taken across those five?

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<v Speaker 4>I will say a bigger number this year than I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like usually, So I'm going to say two fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Two hundred and sixty something, which I think might be

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit lower than the last time we did it.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, Oh, I'm surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, let me ask you this, So what what's what's

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<v Speaker 2>five times twelve sixty? So there are sixty people that

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<v Speaker 2>took part in this. If you took like sixty people

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<v Speaker 2>from a MLB scouting department and they did something like this,

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<v Speaker 2>how many players do you think would be picked? More

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<v Speaker 2>or less? And this is just a hypothetical, fun question.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like less. You think so, I think so,

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<v Speaker 4>I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's why I have it in my head that

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<v Speaker 2>if they got to go and do it, there'd be

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<v Speaker 2>like three hundred and fifty players taken. They'd way more.

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<v Speaker 2>But what do I know? I don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's the reason why I don't think that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>I think if that were true, we would see more

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<v Speaker 4>trades in the major leagues, and we did just see

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<v Speaker 4>a lot for the trade deadline. But if teams really

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<v Speaker 4>did have that wide of variance on who they liked

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<v Speaker 4>on other teams, such that they had like three hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and fifty different unique guys that they think should be

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<v Speaker 4>top one eighty, I think there would be more trades

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<v Speaker 4>where they were trying to leverage that preference right where

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<v Speaker 4>they wanted to do more minor swaps or old veteran

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<v Speaker 4>that it like maybe is fringy value, and they try

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<v Speaker 4>and pick up some of those we call them more

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<v Speaker 4>b side s guys that like we value, but those

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<v Speaker 4>guys don't. And I think the dynasty community has a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit more hurting, especially in like mocks like this,

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<v Speaker 4>where people really mostly are like they don't want their

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<v Speaker 4>picks to look stupid or something, and so they heard

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit closer together. So normally I would say

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<v Speaker 4>and something like that was five teams, I would say

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<v Speaker 4>like maybe two twenty two thirty, especially in years past

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<v Speaker 4>where I feel like the top one hundred was a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit tighter a little bit stronger, and then like

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<v Speaker 4>you look at Post one hundred, maybe there's two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>guys that you could make an argument for that, but

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<v Speaker 4>most people are still making an argument for the same

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<v Speaker 4>kind of fifty to ninety of them that fit in there.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think in teams that doesn't happen as much,

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<v Speaker 4>partly because they care more about defense and that gives

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<v Speaker 4>like a little bit more there's a little bit more

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<v Speaker 4>weight to a category that really dynasty owners ended up

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<v Speaker 4>not caring very much about, and partly because if there

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<v Speaker 4>was such big differences, I think they would act on

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<v Speaker 4>them more, you know. I think that's that's myhypothesis here.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, who knows, But my question would be

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<v Speaker 2>to that is how much time do you are MLB

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<v Speaker 2>teams spending looking at other organizations? I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard of a couple of organizations just in the

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<v Speaker 2>last year or two that were just essentially getting a

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<v Speaker 2>pro scouting department started. So who was doing this stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I have no idea what any of

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<v Speaker 2>that looks like. But I just always I think.

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<v Speaker 4>It really depends, like there are teams that spend a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of time on this. I have heard folks like

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<v Speaker 4>the Brewers spend a lot of time on this. I

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<v Speaker 4>think the Rays spend a lot of time on this,

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<v Speaker 4>especially that would make the seasons like this where they

419
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<v Speaker 4>sold a bit, and then you look at some of

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<v Speaker 4>the guys that they got back. I thought they did

421
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<v Speaker 4>pretty well, right Like, they picked up some players that

422
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<v Speaker 4>I thought were really good, you know, like a bunch

423
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<v Speaker 4>of B side guys that we liked went for Zach Efflin,

424
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<v Speaker 4>right Like, that was a really interesting trade that was

425
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<v Speaker 4>like B side heavy. So I think there are some

426
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<v Speaker 4>teams that spend a lot of time focusing on that,

427
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<v Speaker 4>and especially the sellers. If you know your team isn't

428
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<v Speaker 4>going to be great, but you got a little bit

429
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<v Speaker 4>of capital at the major league level, I think they

430
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<v Speaker 4>might turn a bunch of the guys that normally spend

431
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<v Speaker 4>on development for their team or amateur scouting, and they

432
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<v Speaker 4>might turn them to like pro scouting, you know. So

433
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<v Speaker 4>maybe Miami did a lot of that this year where

434
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<v Speaker 4>they're like playoff team recently, but they knew pretty early

435
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<v Speaker 4>on they were going to be one of the few sellers,

436
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<v Speaker 4>and they focused a lot of their efforts that way.

437
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<v Speaker 4>So I wouldn't be surprised if they dialed that up

438
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<v Speaker 4>and down depending on the year.

439
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<v Speaker 2>For no really reason at all. My dream is to

440
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<v Speaker 2>be a part of a P one ADP MAC and

441
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<v Speaker 2>find out that four hundred and fifty players were taken

442
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<v Speaker 2>in one hundred and eighty player drafts.

443
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<v Speaker 4>That would be surprising.

444
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<v Speaker 2>I love the diversity and opinions, and more players the

445
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<v Speaker 2>better to me. I don't know what you've been getting

446
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<v Speaker 2>into lately. Well you've been watching any guys, You've had

447
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<v Speaker 2>your ion. I've got a few year. It's nice to

448
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<v Speaker 2>see Cale Durban's back and he popped a home.

449
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that was good.

450
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<v Speaker 2>Finally I'm miss turning that little that little spark plug on.

451
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, me too.

452
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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask you if you've been paying attention

453
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<v Speaker 2>to like of mine for a while, Jordan Diez who

454
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<v Speaker 2>got DFA and no one picked him up. It's off

455
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<v Speaker 2>the forty man, but he's been like tearing up the

456
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<v Speaker 2>PCO a little bit here, and like, maybe did you

457
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<v Speaker 2>pick him up? Did you just pick him up?

458
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<v Speaker 4>In one of our leagues? Was I was? I think

459
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<v Speaker 4>it was somebody else, but I like hovered over him

460
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<v Speaker 4>for a good ten minutes, I think because I was

461
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<v Speaker 4>scrolling through because that was in WGM, I think where

462
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<v Speaker 4>it was our last waiver run of the year. On Sunday,

463
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<v Speaker 4>I really looked at him and I was like, mate,

464
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<v Speaker 4>do I want to stash him on that team?

465
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<v Speaker 2>Right?

466
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<v Speaker 4>I didn't, but he was the last change, the last cut,

467
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<v Speaker 4>because I still think there's a chance he's a solid

468
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<v Speaker 4>big leaguer.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Like over the last twenty two games three eighty one

470
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<v Speaker 2>four seventeen seven two slash with nine home runs and

471
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<v Speaker 2>six doubles fifteen strikeouts.

472
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<v Speaker 4>Like that's pretty fun.

473
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<v Speaker 2>I've always been drawn to this bat, and you know,

474
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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I broke up with him, but now,

475
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<v Speaker 2>you know, see him at a party and he's looking nice.

476
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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I don't know if I made

477
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<v Speaker 2>the right call there, but he's he's caught my attention.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Like I think we mentioned, I think Terso's pretty close

479
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<v Speaker 2>son of getting the chance when that might come for

480
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<v Speaker 2>the Padres. But you know, he's been on one for

481
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<v Speaker 2>a minute. I've been impressed with and these these are

482
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<v Speaker 2>all just former B side guys, Matt, but edgar Quero

483
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<v Speaker 2>has been.

484
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<v Speaker 4>Doing it a yep, it looks good again.

485
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, just the last couple of series. He's

486
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<v Speaker 2>just like hitting four hundred, slugging damn near seven hundred

487
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<v Speaker 2>and hitting some home runs. A couple of guys. I

488
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<v Speaker 2>wanted to ask you about that. I haven't watched a

489
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<v Speaker 2>whole ton of just kind of started turning them on

490
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<v Speaker 2>this weekend and trying to see some at thats. But

491
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<v Speaker 2>have you been noticing young Luis Castillo of the Brewer

492
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<v Speaker 2>system at all? He's down in Carolina, got called up

493
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<v Speaker 2>from the complex.

494
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<v Speaker 4>I happened, tell me about it.

495
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is more just you know, getting my

496
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<v Speaker 2>attention on the stat lines and just starting to get

497
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<v Speaker 2>in the video. But last twenty one games with Carolina,

498
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<v Speaker 2>he's popped five home runs, He's struck out fourteen times,

499
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<v Speaker 2>he's walked eighteen times. He's slashing three twenty eight, four

500
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<v Speaker 2>ninety four, six ninety, He's twenty years old. I think

501
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<v Speaker 2>they got him playing outfield. Maybe Mark, that guy has

502
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<v Speaker 2>someone to do some homework on. That's basically where I'm

503
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<v Speaker 2>at with him right now, and I checked. I think

504
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<v Speaker 2>he's zero to one percent rostered right now. Love that

505
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<v Speaker 2>the Giants have this undrafted I think it was twenty

506
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.519
<v Speaker 2>twenty three undrafted free agent Bo Davidson, same story. I

507
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<v Speaker 2>want to just start watching him some more. But last

508
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<v Speaker 2>eighteen games, four fifty eight, five ninety eight, thirty one,

509
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<v Speaker 2>four home runs, four stolen bases, struck out twelve times,

510
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<v Speaker 2>walked seventeen times, so one four to one ops over

511
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<v Speaker 2>his little a ball run right now. I think he's

512
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<v Speaker 2>twenty one years old, college guy. But I know very

513
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<v Speaker 2>little about him, but want to learn more. And I

514
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<v Speaker 2>want to know, Matt, what you think about Luke Adams.

515
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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any opinions there?

516
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm a big Luke Adams fan. I think he

517
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<v Speaker 4>gets knocked for having kind of a funky swing, though

518
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<v Speaker 4>I believe he's toned that down a bit this year,

519
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<v Speaker 4>at least last time I saw him, it look like

520
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<v Speaker 4>a little bit less funky. But the things that he

521
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<v Speaker 4>does well, I think he walks a lot, he hits

522
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<v Speaker 4>the ball hard.

523
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<v Speaker 2>I think his slug isn't real high, right, but.

524
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<v Speaker 4>It's it's Yeah, it's not super high, but he still

525
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<v Speaker 4>has decent power, even if it's less light tower power,

526
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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think he still can. He pulls the

527
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<v Speaker 4>ball a pretty solid amount. Yeah, I mean he's pulling

528
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<v Speaker 4>the ball almost half the time this year and you know,

529
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<v Speaker 4>his flyball rate isn't super high, but it's still good

530
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<v Speaker 4>enough that he's like doing damage on contact. And I

531
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<v Speaker 4>don't think he's a great base runner, but he's a

532
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<v Speaker 4>cup steals away from going back to back thirty seasons

533
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<v Speaker 4>thirty still seasons. He's not fast, and he does get

534
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<v Speaker 4>caught a decent amount, but I like the aggressiveness.

535
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<v Speaker 2>He's kind of an odd duck. Huh. Yeah.

536
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<v Speaker 4>I mean I think he's like sort of one of

537
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<v Speaker 4>those classic, you know, not quite B side guys, because

538
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<v Speaker 4>I think he gets a little more love than we

539
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<v Speaker 4>usually get behind. But he is sort of odd in

540
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<v Speaker 4>his movements, you know, almost like Hunter Pence esque. I'd

541
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<v Speaker 4>say it doesn't look like it should work, but there's

542
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<v Speaker 4>some things about it that are are pretty athletic.

543
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's got some unnatural in him right.

544
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

545
00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:35.119
<v Speaker 2>And still in HIA, I got him in like a

546
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<v Speaker 2>little throw in just to throw him patting care or whatever. Okay,

547
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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna add him. Cool. But in RASS thirty where

548
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you can only pe play twenty five guys and I

549
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<v Speaker 2>basically have fifty players on the bubble, I don't know.

550
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if she's if she'd be worth it

551
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<v Speaker 2>there and that. I don't know. I don't really know

552
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<v Speaker 2>what to do with him. I've seen him. I think

553
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<v Speaker 2>he's gotten on some Twitter people's top one hundred lists

554
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<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

555
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think he's really good. And I think I

556
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<v Speaker 4>said this in the Dynasty I got the other day

557
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<v Speaker 4>and Craig poop pooed me for it, and I was like,

558
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<v Speaker 4>I guess, you know, like he's the classic scout View guy,

559
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<v Speaker 4>but he's performed pretty well the last couple of years

560
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<v Speaker 4>and I think he's I think he's good. I like

561
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<v Speaker 4>him again, probably for me, he's probably like top hundred

562
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<v Speaker 4>asking back end part of it as a hitter, he

563
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<v Speaker 4>does a lot of stuff that I like, and I

564
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<v Speaker 4>can see it all right.

565
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<v Speaker 2>I saw some chatter going on today in the discord

566
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<v Speaker 2>about Jonathan Long, who I know we have, yeah, brought

567
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<v Speaker 2>up a few times, but he got promoted to double

568
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<v Speaker 2>A and like it's kind of been kind of been

569
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<v Speaker 2>hitting it man four two, five forty one, six h

570
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<v Speaker 2>nine slug over the last nineteen games, popped a couple

571
00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:46.039
<v Speaker 2>of home runs. Yeah, I think he's kind of an

572
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<v Speaker 2>interesting b side asked that, especially if that sort of

573
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<v Speaker 2>success continues. I know, I kind of like the look

574
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:54.880
<v Speaker 2>of him at the plate. So yeah, So Jonathan Long's

575
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 2>promotion has been kind of interesting. Nat, I don't know,

576
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<v Speaker 2>have you ever turned on Peyton Williams in Blue Jays systems?

577
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:04.680
<v Speaker 4>From Yes, but it's been a bit.

578
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.519
<v Speaker 2>He was like almost my Blue Jays B side call

579
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<v Speaker 2>this year. I Am not saying roster him or anything

580
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:14.079
<v Speaker 2>like that, but his bat has kind of come around.

581
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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's a big boy and he can he

582
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<v Speaker 2>can put a charge into one too, but there's like

583
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<v Speaker 2>a little blend of some hitting there. I don't know,

584
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.359
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't bet that anything really comes of it, but

585
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:25.839
<v Speaker 2>putting together a nice back half of the season.

586
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're really selling him, selling him good.

587
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 2>He's funny. You gotta get some love to the big boys, Matt.

588
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:35.799
<v Speaker 4>I do love a big boy, especially big boys from Iowa.

589
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.160
<v Speaker 2>To my people. All right, well, you know that's a

590
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:40.920
<v Speaker 2>that's are pretty boring. Anyways. I want to talk about

591
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:43.279
<v Speaker 2>an arm real quick, Matt. An arm that I'm kind

592
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:45.119
<v Speaker 2>of getting more and more excited about the more I

593
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.319
<v Speaker 2>watch him. And that's Iverson Castiano with the with the Phillies.

594
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<v Speaker 4>I haven't watched him.

595
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Talk to me about him I would have loved to

596
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>have been fly on the wall during the trade conversations

597
00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:00.720
<v Speaker 2>that the Phillies had with the Angels, because I'd be

598
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>super curious to know how the Phillies view Castillano compared

599
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 2>to those two, or vice versa, what the Angels may

600
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:09.559
<v Speaker 2>have thought. I don't know how much they looked into him,

601
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Speaker 2>but U there are some It's definitely not one to one.

602
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:16.079
<v Speaker 2>But when I watch him, I kind of think about

603
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<v Speaker 2>Ben Brown when he was with the Phillies a little bit,

604
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<v Speaker 2>and that is just kind of like, I think it's

605
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.599
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good fastball. I don't think the slider shapes

606
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:25.799
<v Speaker 2>are like the same, but I'd love to love to

607
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.480
<v Speaker 2>compare Ben Brown's breaker and his breaker just on a

608
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>nice nerdy metric sheet and just see what the differences

609
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:35.359
<v Speaker 2>are there. But Castillano has got promoted to double A.

610
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<v Speaker 2>He's made four starts there now forty eight innings, one

611
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<v Speaker 2>six four ERA a point nine to one, whip thirty

612
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>two percent, k percentage seven percent, walks, throwing strikes at

613
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.400
<v Speaker 2>about sixty two percent. He's given up one home run

614
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.440
<v Speaker 2>over those four starts and four earned runs. Maybe a

615
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:54.799
<v Speaker 2>little bit of a bigger body, boy, I think he's

616
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:58.759
<v Speaker 2>about twenty three right handed. Yeah, you know, just like

617
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:00.839
<v Speaker 2>anybody that I'm gonna like. Man, it's a blend of

618
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 2>pitching and stuff. And impressed me with his move up

619
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<v Speaker 2>to the uppers here his first four goes at it,

620
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:09.039
<v Speaker 2>I think, faring a lot better than maybe I would

621
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<v Speaker 2>have bet on right out the gate. But there's a

622
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:14.960
<v Speaker 2>nasty breaker there that I think he can that he

623
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.519
<v Speaker 2>uses pretty well. There's there's other secondaries. It's a potential

624
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>full kitchen sink. But I've already you know now that

625
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:24.680
<v Speaker 2>sort of pop up season. I think it's kind of over,

626
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:27.960
<v Speaker 2>and trade deadlines are nearing the end and playoffs are starting.

627
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<v Speaker 2>I'm starting to turn towards twenty twenty five B side work,

628
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:35.000
<v Speaker 2>and I'm I'm harvesting my names and trying to turn

629
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:37.319
<v Speaker 2>on video and they haven't gotten real too deep. But

630
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:40.759
<v Speaker 2>if Castiano is sticking around at zero to one percent

631
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:42.960
<v Speaker 2>like he is right now, this is a no brainer.

632
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty five Phillies B side arm for.

633
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:50.200
<v Speaker 4>Me, I like it. Early early flag rays on Castano interesting.

634
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I went, you know, after I traded away

635
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:55.599
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of arms, I put my you know, got

636
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.599
<v Speaker 2>a group together of arms. I was like, I see

637
00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:59.160
<v Speaker 2>how the rest of the season goes, and I'll pick

638
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:01.079
<v Speaker 2>these guys up. And he was near the top of

639
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.720
<v Speaker 2>all those lists for me, and so far, so good.

640
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Haven't regretted. You know, I'm just taking a little flyer

641
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:08.079
<v Speaker 2>on him and he'll be sticking around on some of

642
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 2>my rosters for sure. Nice. Your boy, Chris compos put

643
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>up a monster. Why on the other day did you

644
00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:16.519
<v Speaker 2>see that? Maybe last week I did not. He went

645
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>like he went like eight or something. I don't shut out,

646
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:21.799
<v Speaker 2>but I don't have it in front of me, but

647
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was dominance on the day. And I

648
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 2>have to admit you told me to go back and

649
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:29.640
<v Speaker 2>watch him, and I have turned him on for like

650
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:31.759
<v Speaker 2>a batter or two at a time and then got

651
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>way way into something else and haven't completed watching him

652
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>outing of his yet. But yeah, you might be. You

653
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 2>might be someone interesting pay attention to. I've seen a

654
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:42.519
<v Speaker 2>little bit of chatter going on about him.

655
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 4>I was just perusing the like last twenty one day

656
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:49.799
<v Speaker 4>leaderboard that I go to every now and then on Fangrafts,

657
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.599
<v Speaker 4>and he's a couple pages deep. I think he's still

658
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 4>doing well, but not not outstanding, but at the top

659
00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:59.960
<v Speaker 4>of this leaderboard is just like B side B side

660
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.200
<v Speaker 4>B side, you know, Caden Dana, Mason Barnett, Ryan Gusto,

661
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:08.279
<v Speaker 4>Chen way Lynd, Gary Gil Hill, Omar Cruz. So. I

662
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:10.279
<v Speaker 4>don't know if we've talked about, but he's someone that's

663
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:13.200
<v Speaker 4>popped on a couple of my leader boards last month,

664
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.000
<v Speaker 4>or so Ander Suarez. It's just like a lot of

665
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:18.640
<v Speaker 4>the guys that we we like have been I think,

666
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 4>rounding into form even after they haven't had great seasons.

667
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:25.880
<v Speaker 4>Even Red Van Scooter, you know, RBS has had injuries

668
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.039
<v Speaker 4>and a little bit of underperformance at double A, but

669
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:29.839
<v Speaker 4>I think he's rounding into form as well.

670
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I've been of late, I've been liking what

671
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I've been seeing from some of our B side arms

672
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:39.000
<v Speaker 2>that didn't, you know, get the jumping popularity, like Jurmine

673
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Rosario is getting double run. I've liked a couple of

674
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:46.279
<v Speaker 2>last starts. I watched DJ McCarty. I think he's starting

675
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:47.920
<v Speaker 2>to He's.

676
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:51.839
<v Speaker 4>Got a couple and then yeah, Mullins again still a

677
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:54.759
<v Speaker 4>little wild, but he had an outing that I tuned

678
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 4>in for a bit of maybe been last week and

679
00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:58.960
<v Speaker 4>I think he went four innings, but it was like

680
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.759
<v Speaker 4>eight punch outs and two walks or something. It was

681
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.000
<v Speaker 4>like short and a little bit wild, which is kind

682
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.160
<v Speaker 4>of what he does. But swing and miss still seems

683
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 4>like it's really there.

684
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there might be Uh, it might be a

685
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 2>good year to double down on a couple couple of

686
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:13.759
<v Speaker 2>B side arms for us. I don't know.

687
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 4>Oh, another one that I think I had mentioned this

688
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:21.279
<v Speaker 4>offseason Braves minor leaguer Lucas Braun. Yeah, talking about Braun

689
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.759
<v Speaker 4>in a system that there weren't a ton of guys

690
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:26.640
<v Speaker 4>to really like. I think my official B side one

691
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:30.240
<v Speaker 4>was di'a Villa, who's been fun and decent this year

692
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:33.359
<v Speaker 4>and again. But Lucas Braun I think continues to be

693
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.200
<v Speaker 4>one of those like under the radar, maybe back of

694
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:39.640
<v Speaker 4>the rotation looking starters, but there might be a touch

695
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 4>more there, and he's throwing volume and get some strikeouts

696
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 4>and limits the walks. He's just another guy that I

697
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 4>keep every so often. Every week. That's another couple of

698
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 4>decent Lucas Braun starts in there, so he's another one

699
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 4>to come back to. Yeah, all right, here's here's one.

700
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 2>I spend a lot of time this time of year.

701
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Just looking at you know, smaller, smaller samples is what's

702
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>going on the last month, the last six weeks, you

703
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:06.000
<v Speaker 2>see some lines and some small samples. Were like, man,

704
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 2>if this would have happened the first month of the season,

705
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 2>this guy would have been a huge jump in popularity.

706
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:14.400
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's a big part of my sort

707
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:17.559
<v Speaker 2>of b side process coming into next year.

708
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:23.119
<v Speaker 4>All Right, Nate, who is the full season pitching leader

709
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:25.880
<v Speaker 4>in lowest walk percentage this year?

710
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Full season? I just looked at this, that would be

711
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Zebbie Matthews, right.

712
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.960
<v Speaker 4>Indeed, it is mister call up and guy that I

713
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:35.280
<v Speaker 4>think we both have co signed and said we really

714
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.079
<v Speaker 4>really like mister Zebbie Matthews.

715
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:39.480
<v Speaker 2>We're on the eve of his debut tomorrow.

716
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.000
<v Speaker 4>I know, I'm very excited for that. I think that'll

717
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:42.519
<v Speaker 4>be great.

718
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of secretly wishing that he gets rocked.

719
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:48.639
<v Speaker 4>And he might. I mean again, like, this is a

720
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:52.800
<v Speaker 4>pretty aggressive set of advancements by the Twins, and he's

721
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.960
<v Speaker 4>a command pitcher, but it's like he throws a lot

722
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:58.440
<v Speaker 4>of strikes and in the big leagues that can get punished.

723
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, filling the zone up there different than filling the

724
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:01.679
<v Speaker 2>zone down there.

725
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:04.159
<v Speaker 4>That's true. I still am a believer. I think he's

726
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:06.880
<v Speaker 4>going to be quite good, so that it would be fun.

727
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.000
<v Speaker 2>But I'd like to see him get rocked and get cheap.

728
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 4>Good luck with that. I think a lot of people

729
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:14.320
<v Speaker 4>really like him. Okay, so who's number two?

730
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:16.760
<v Speaker 2>I just looked at this because I wanted to see

731
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:19.679
<v Speaker 2>where Sean Sullivan was. I know Sean Sullivan's up there.

732
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.039
<v Speaker 4>Sean Sullivan is number two. Yeah, And that's that's why

733
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 4>I want to bring this up, because I know you

734
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 4>had posted was that like a K minus BB leaderboard

735
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:31.400
<v Speaker 4>perhaps in the Dynasty I got and there were a

736
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:34.320
<v Speaker 4>bunch of Rockies in there, and the top number two

737
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 4>or something for.

738
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 2>The top eight full season guys are.

739
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:41.440
<v Speaker 4>Rockets Rockies, and Sean Sullivan's up there, and our buddy

740
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 4>Chris Kleaig was poo pooing it because Sullivan's bastball isn't

741
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:48.280
<v Speaker 4>good enough for him. What say you to that? Mate? Oh?

742
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, I say, you know, this is this is us

743
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:57.079
<v Speaker 2>and the velocity number is something to be considered and

744
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 2>a component, but that an end all be all. You know,

745
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 2>Like Clegg's not interested because he doesn't throw hard, which

746
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.840
<v Speaker 2>is fine, you know, that's probably part of a process

747
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 2>that will work well for some people. But ain't I

748
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 2>ain't crossing a guy off my board because his fastballs

749
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.400
<v Speaker 2>wasn't he said that it was coming in at eighty eight,

750
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:18.119
<v Speaker 2>eighty nine or something like that. I feel like i've

751
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 2>seen him, you know, lower nineties. But who knows. That

752
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:24.320
<v Speaker 2>could be a discrepancy and the measurement, the tools taking

753
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:26.800
<v Speaker 2>the measurement, who knows. But to me, it's more like

754
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I asked him, like, well, and I don't know what

755
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.559
<v Speaker 2>it is, but I'm like, what's the whift percentage on

756
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:33.079
<v Speaker 2>that pitch? Because I see a lot of whiffs on

757
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:35.320
<v Speaker 2>that and of course, you know hitters are going to

758
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 2>get better. Maybe he doesn't have that same sort of success,

759
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.159
<v Speaker 2>but I've been I'm on it. I want to. I'll

760
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 2>place a bet on him to some extent that you know,

761
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.400
<v Speaker 2>he's at least going to ascend well in the miners.

762
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:49.360
<v Speaker 2>And who knows what happens pitching in elevation and then

763
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.039
<v Speaker 2>away from elevation, but a guy like him could maybe

764
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:55.199
<v Speaker 2>portend to better success than others. I don't know. I

765
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 2>just know it's a real funky different fastball. And we

766
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.599
<v Speaker 2>just saw our guy who's got a different and lefty fastball.

767
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Bradford do it again in the majors.

768
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:05.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's back.

769
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

770
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:11.800
<v Speaker 4>And for Sullivan, I just think these like really low

771
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 4>walk guys get kind of underrated at times, which is

772
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:19.159
<v Speaker 4>sort of weird to say, but like people are like, oh, well,

773
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.719
<v Speaker 4>it's not going to work at the higher levels, but

774
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.280
<v Speaker 4>it's a hell of a floor to start from when

775
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:26.480
<v Speaker 4>you just like know you're not going to throw balls

776
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 4>like that's I don't know. And he gets whiffs more

777
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 4>than some of the other guys Like Pearson Ole was

778
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.199
<v Speaker 4>my guy who was like this last year, but he

779
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 4>never really got whiffs even at the lower levels. He

780
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:39.920
<v Speaker 4>just made it work because he refused to walk. Anybody

781
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 4>hasn't been as good this year, but Sullivan still gets whiffs.

782
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 4>And it seems to me my like the few times

783
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 4>that I've put him on for full stretches, the fastball

784
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.440
<v Speaker 4>might not be overpowering, but to your point, it gets whiffs.

785
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.960
<v Speaker 4>It looks kind of funny coming in and I think

786
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.719
<v Speaker 4>his secondary's play like it plays off of that. It

787
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.400
<v Speaker 4>keeps guys off balance even though they know like okay,

788
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 4>eighty six is coming or whatever. None of these guys

789
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:05.360
<v Speaker 4>just squaring that up. I mean, I don't know, I

790
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.559
<v Speaker 4>quite like him, and he's another one that to me

791
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:11.800
<v Speaker 4>like screams, this is a bye to me, It's like, Okay, yeah,

792
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:14.480
<v Speaker 4>he's a Rocky and there's problems at the big league

793
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.280
<v Speaker 4>level with that, But what he's showing is I think

794
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:18.400
<v Speaker 4>good skills there.

795
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I agree, And you know, I think it says I

796
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 2>think it says a lot in a good way that

797
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.159
<v Speaker 2>an MLB team, even if it's the Rockies and you

798
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 2>want to make whatever joke. And I know that they

799
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 2>weren't the only team that valued him in this draft range,

800
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:32.280
<v Speaker 2>but they took a guy who doesn't throw very hard

801
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:34.519
<v Speaker 2>at all in the second round. I think that speaks

802
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.800
<v Speaker 2>volumes about what they might think the total package and

803
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.360
<v Speaker 2>success could be with him. So I'm in man, I

804
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 2>like Sullivan. When I put out that top twenty thing

805
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:44.280
<v Speaker 2>that Sullivan was in it for me. You know, there

806
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.920
<v Speaker 2>might be a horrible fantasy bet and I get that,

807
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:50.639
<v Speaker 2>but as just a minor league arm to kind of ride,

808
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:52.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm into that left handed fastball.

809
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:56.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And he's right there with Quinn Matthews, Zebbie Matthews,

810
00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.880
<v Speaker 4>tug Bill Wilkinson for best CA minus BB and in

811
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:04.239
<v Speaker 4>full season ball and just ahead of Jase Kaminska and

812
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.480
<v Speaker 4>Chase Dolander, both Rockies as well. The Rockies seem like

813
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 4>they've got some interesting arms in there, and like the

814
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:15.960
<v Speaker 4>jump from Sullivan to like pass Dolander and Jonah Thong

815
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:19.280
<v Speaker 4>down to like the next set of like guys you know,

816
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:23.320
<v Speaker 4>like called real pitching prospects that have good K minus

817
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:26.840
<v Speaker 4>bb ear down to Austin Peterson, Jade and Hamm Parker

818
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:30.360
<v Speaker 4>Messik at around just under twenty three percent CA minus

819
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:33.119
<v Speaker 4>b B and like, sure, you want to discount this

820
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 4>is the minor leagues and all of that, but Sullivan

821
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.679
<v Speaker 4>is what is that four percent clear of them? Four

822
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:41.639
<v Speaker 4>four and a half percent clear of that next tier down,

823
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:44.440
<v Speaker 4>Like that's that's a lot. That's a lot of CA

824
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:48.320
<v Speaker 4>minus BB percentage to move. So I don't know Man's

825
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 4>He's one that like, I really really like. I've tried

826
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.280
<v Speaker 4>to get him on the cheap in a couple of places,

827
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:55.679
<v Speaker 4>but unfortunately the people that had him we didn't line

828
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:58.039
<v Speaker 4>up in trades in a couple of places this offseason

829
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:00.719
<v Speaker 4>or this trade deviline season. But he continues to be

830
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 4>one that I'm interested in for the longer run.

831
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you. I think he got promoted. Did

832
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you get promoted to double A? Did he make a

833
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.440
<v Speaker 2>double A start? I think he did, didn't he? Yes?

834
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:10.079
<v Speaker 4>I think he did.

835
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some good eyeballs, good tests, good, a better idea

836
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:18.559
<v Speaker 2>of how it we'll play against more advanced hitters. But yeah, Matt,

837
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 2>So you know, talk about trade season. We had some

838
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:25.039
<v Speaker 2>fun this last off season and did some trades, right,

839
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:28.320
<v Speaker 2>We were trading away some consensus top one hundred guys

840
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:32.199
<v Speaker 2>for not consensus top one hundred guys or yeah, four

841
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:35.360
<v Speaker 2>guys that were maybe maybe valued. Maybe some of these

842
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.039
<v Speaker 2>guys that were in your trades were still top one hundred,

843
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:41.079
<v Speaker 2>but much less so regarded than who you traded away.

844
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:43.920
<v Speaker 2>And I just got curious and turn that show back

845
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:46.000
<v Speaker 2>on just to see who we were talking about. And

846
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:49.119
<v Speaker 2>our plan was to revisit these a year later and

847
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.159
<v Speaker 2>see how we felt about them. So we'll reserve our

848
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.199
<v Speaker 2>total final judgment. But you want to, you want to

849
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:56.320
<v Speaker 2>take a look at these real quick.

850
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 4>Sure, I gotta be honest, I don't remember. Yeah, people

851
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:00.760
<v Speaker 4>we talked about.

852
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.280
<v Speaker 2>I remember I threw my three trades up here in

853
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:07.559
<v Speaker 2>the discord, and nobody wanted my side of the trades.

854
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:10.639
<v Speaker 2>I remember that. Let's see here, Matt, you traded away

855
00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:14.880
<v Speaker 2>young Walter Jenkins. Sure did yep in this hypothetical for

856
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Max Clark, but you also said or Emmanuel Rodriguez. Now

857
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:23.199
<v Speaker 2>I know in these ADPs that we did, these Welsher's

858
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:26.800
<v Speaker 2>mock drafts that Jenkins I think went suldly ahead of

859
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Emmanuel Rodriguez. Clark might have been there might have been

860
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:33.400
<v Speaker 2>a few where Clark went before Jenkins, but for the

861
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.320
<v Speaker 2>most part, Jenkins was before Clark. But how do you

862
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.840
<v Speaker 2>feel about that? Right now? Would you still trade walk

863
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:39.639
<v Speaker 2>Jenkins away from one of those two?

864
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, for Emmanuel or Rodriguez, I would do that

865
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:46.360
<v Speaker 4>a million times over. I just think that, like I

866
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:51.280
<v Speaker 4>do not understand this, Emmanuel Rodriguez is passive and therefore

867
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:54.320
<v Speaker 4>nothing else that he's doing is real. Like to me,

868
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:58.880
<v Speaker 4>that take is so tired. He's passive, and sure he

869
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:02.960
<v Speaker 4>gives up some strikeouts because of that, but he also

870
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:06.719
<v Speaker 4>walks an absolute shit ton because of that, like twenty

871
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.440
<v Speaker 4>five percent walk rate currently and double as a twenty

872
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:11.639
<v Speaker 4>one year old. And he's had some injuries this year.

873
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:13.599
<v Speaker 4>He had the hand thing. And I think he's had

874
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:17.719
<v Speaker 4>some other Nichols here and there. Yeah, thumb thumbstrain, and

875
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:19.719
<v Speaker 4>I think he's just now coming back.

876
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:23.559
<v Speaker 2>But this is the Twins top prospect problem going on.

877
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:26.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, gets hurt all the time. I guess I will

878
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:29.800
<v Speaker 4>admit I did just trade Emmanuel Rodriguez away in my

879
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 4>trade deadline in one of my thirties to get Chris

880
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:36.440
<v Speaker 4>Sale from my Points League thirty team or push like,

881
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:39.039
<v Speaker 4>And I didn't really want to do it, but I

882
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 4>was like him plus some other stuff to get Chris

883
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.480
<v Speaker 4>Sale and hopefully Sales my acetime down the stretch. And

884
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.920
<v Speaker 4>I went a championship. And I won't regret this, but

885
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:51.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you I looked at in this format every

886
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.320
<v Speaker 4>other team, every other prospect. I would not trade Emmanuel

887
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.480
<v Speaker 4>Rodriguez straight up for any of them. Not for James Wood,

888
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.880
<v Speaker 4>not for Junior Ki I'm an arrow, certainly, not for

889
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:04.599
<v Speaker 4>Walker Jenkins. Like for me in this format that I

890
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:08.159
<v Speaker 4>had him, he was the perfect prospect. And you know

891
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:10.199
<v Speaker 4>I'm still aggressive with that. I'm going to trade them

892
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:13.039
<v Speaker 4>away for valuable production now, especially at a place of need,

893
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.679
<v Speaker 4>as I did. But Amanu or I guess for me,

894
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:19.199
<v Speaker 4>is just a no doubt top three, top one fantasy

895
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 4>prospect in leagues like this where the strikeouts are aren't

896
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:23.840
<v Speaker 4>going to matter less, Like he's not going to run

897
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.519
<v Speaker 4>a two ninety eight average in the majors, I don't think.

898
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:28.559
<v Speaker 4>I think it's going to be more like two fifty

899
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:31.480
<v Speaker 4>to forty. But if you're in an OBP league, that's

900
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:34.400
<v Speaker 4>going to come with a four hundred OBP. I'm telling me,

901
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:37.440
<v Speaker 4>this kid is so good and he hits this shit

902
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:39.519
<v Speaker 4>out of the ball when he makes contact when he

903
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:41.960
<v Speaker 4>decides to swing. So for me, like this, this was

904
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:45.119
<v Speaker 4>an OBP power focused points league, so I was like,

905
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.840
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't trade him for anybody in in the minors.

906
00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:51.039
<v Speaker 4>So yes, I would make that trade one hundred times

907
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.280
<v Speaker 4>over day. A little bit less confident about that with

908
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:55.960
<v Speaker 4>Max Clark, who has been solid, but he looks to

909
00:43:56.039 --> 00:44:00.599
<v Speaker 4>me more like a well rounded, okay player than a

910
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:02.280
<v Speaker 4>star in the making, which is what I think Em

911
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:06.239
<v Speaker 4>Rodriguez is going to be. Walker Jenkins, on the other hand, like, yeah,

912
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.920
<v Speaker 4>he's had some issues, soft tissue ones now, like a

913
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:13.960
<v Speaker 4>bunch of them, hamstring, quad whatever, quite a few issues

914
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:17.800
<v Speaker 4>so far, and people were excited about his a ball

915
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:19.719
<v Speaker 4>stand as a nineteen year old. You know, one P

916
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:23.360
<v Speaker 4>thirty nine WRC plus a bunch of the peripherals look good.

917
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:25.719
<v Speaker 4>Eleven percent strikeout rate, Like normally, this is the kind

918
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.039
<v Speaker 4>of guy that I'm into, right, He walks some, doesn't

919
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:31.480
<v Speaker 4>strike out much, hits the ball pretty hard, is reasonably fast.

920
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:33.280
<v Speaker 4>I just look at it and I'm like, I don't

921
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:35.960
<v Speaker 4>get why people are stuffing him so high. Other guys

922
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:39.559
<v Speaker 4>that had this similar profile are like lottery ticket back end,

923
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:42.639
<v Speaker 4>top one hundred type maybe, and people are shoving this

924
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 4>guy in top five in some mocks. He got promoted

925
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.840
<v Speaker 4>to high A. And yeah, it's just forty five plate

926
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:52.199
<v Speaker 4>appearances so far, but the strikeout rate has ticked up

927
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:55.960
<v Speaker 4>to slightly above average than elite as it was. He's

928
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:59.199
<v Speaker 4>not walking six point seven percent walk rate. He's popping

929
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.199
<v Speaker 4>the ball up a bunch t which I had noted

930
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 4>earlier in the year was the thing that he was doing.

931
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:04.840
<v Speaker 4>He's like hitting the ball in the air a lot

932
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:08.519
<v Speaker 4>and has zero homers fifty four almost fifty five percent

933
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:11.760
<v Speaker 4>fly balls and fifty five percent pull rate Nate, and

934
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:15.119
<v Speaker 4>he's not leaving the yard zero home runs. His ISO

935
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:18.679
<v Speaker 4>isn't very good. It's one twenty nine, I think right

936
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:21.679
<v Speaker 4>now one twenty eight, and I don't think it's like

937
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 4>been looking very good. So I still think people love him,

938
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.559
<v Speaker 4>and I think people are still like this is a

939
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:32.119
<v Speaker 4>top five pick, generational type talent from a strong draft

940
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:35.880
<v Speaker 4>class last year, and I don't think i've seen anything

941
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.559
<v Speaker 4>that backs set up for me personally. I genuinely think

942
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:43.119
<v Speaker 4>what someone like McGonagall has done has been way more impressive.

943
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:44.360
<v Speaker 2>That was gonna be my question.

944
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:49.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I wont McGonagall straight up over over Jenkins personally,

945
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:52.559
<v Speaker 4>and McGonagall just got to hurt too, himmate deal. But

946
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.519
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, man, I just I really have not

947
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:58.800
<v Speaker 4>been impressed by the live looks. I haven't been impressed

948
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:02.039
<v Speaker 4>by the numbers. Just I don't get it. And maybe

949
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:04.000
<v Speaker 4>this is just the guy that I never get that

950
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 4>happens sometimes. And maybe maybe next year he's going to

951
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:10.039
<v Speaker 4>be totally healthy, he's going to settle in at high

952
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 4>and double A and really rake and I'm gonna look

953
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:15.079
<v Speaker 4>stupid on this, but the way things sit right now,

954
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:17.840
<v Speaker 4>I would definitely trade him straight up for Max Clark.

955
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.800
<v Speaker 4>And even though Max Clark has been fine, not great,

956
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.920
<v Speaker 4>but fine, and boy one hundred times out of one hundred,

957
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:26.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm training him for a many or yes, no question.

958
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:28.440
<v Speaker 2>When I went back and was listening, you were to

959
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:30.960
<v Speaker 2>this episode you were talking about you know, I think

960
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I remember correctly Jenkins was lauded as an amateur because

961
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:37.440
<v Speaker 2>he hit the ball really hard. That was part of

962
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:39.960
<v Speaker 2>that was part of it. And you were referencing, remember

963
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:43.559
<v Speaker 2>that somebody put up that chart what was it exivelocities

964
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:47.079
<v Speaker 2>and contact rates or whatever from guys at the reps

965
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:49.119
<v Speaker 2>at the end of last year, and you were like,

966
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:51.679
<v Speaker 2>where's the hard hit? What is happening? And I know,

967
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I think he was coming off. Was he coming off

968
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:55.480
<v Speaker 2>of a ham at bone to or something like?

969
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:57.159
<v Speaker 4>It was a hammate? I think it was like a

970
00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.840
<v Speaker 4>ham string. Like I think it has mostly been.

971
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Like getting ham Still, you were like, where's the hard hit?

972
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:06.280
<v Speaker 2>And now it seems to be kind of continuing a

973
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:08.440
<v Speaker 2>little bit. Now it's like where where is this?

974
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:11.559
<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, I mean he's almost two hundred plate appearances

975
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:14.920
<v Speaker 4>into the year again having missed some time, I guess,

976
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:18.559
<v Speaker 4>including his complex rehab. He's two hundred plus plate appearances

977
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:21.480
<v Speaker 4>into the year and has three home runs. It's all

978
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:25.360
<v Speaker 4>been at low levels like, Okay, maybe it's you know,

979
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.559
<v Speaker 4>some rehab stuff some whatever, But I don't know, man,

980
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:30.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, I don't think, at least from what

981
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 4>I've seen reported, I don't think the exit bulos are great.

982
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:38.280
<v Speaker 4>His contact seems good to maybe very good. Like we'll

983
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:41.639
<v Speaker 4>see how that shakes out, but it's if the power

984
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:45.920
<v Speaker 4>isn't there and it's like above average contact, not elite contact.

985
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:48.360
<v Speaker 4>I just don't know if you're gonna like what you

986
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:51.480
<v Speaker 4>get is sound like he's swiping a lot of bags either.

987
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

988
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:55.760
<v Speaker 4>This feels like the kind of production that really kills

989
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.320
<v Speaker 4>a fantasy team that you're like, you're not getting steals.

990
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.400
<v Speaker 4>Maybe the babbit dips a little bit and now you're

991
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:03.400
<v Speaker 4>not getting much return on anything.

992
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:04.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

993
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.920
<v Speaker 4>He's just not my guy. So yeah, I know I'm

994
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:08.400
<v Speaker 4>doing this trade again, all right.

995
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Just I wasn't planning on getting into these two guys here,

996
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:14.679
<v Speaker 2>But because we're here, I'm bummed. I'm a bit disappointed

997
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.159
<v Speaker 2>by both of these players because what we're like mid

998
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:20.519
<v Speaker 2>August right now. I was hoping to have a real good,

999
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:24.199
<v Speaker 2>juicy duel and debate going on about these two players.

1000
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:27.599
<v Speaker 2>But TJ. Walton has been a rough season. He just

1001
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:31.519
<v Speaker 2>can't say on the field. Yeah, but uh, I'm curious

1002
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:35.639
<v Speaker 2>what you're thinking of Little Woltz twenty twenty four.

1003
00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:38.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's not been very good, you know. And as

1004
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 4>a as a Mariners fan, I'm rooting for him and

1005
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:43.880
<v Speaker 4>think that what he showed last year, I think I

1006
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.559
<v Speaker 4>said like he had done about as well as you

1007
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 4>can do post debut to just kind of showcase the talent.

1008
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:52.920
<v Speaker 4>And I think one of the things that has been

1009
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 4>interesting about Colt Emerson is other than his kind of

1010
00:48:57.599 --> 00:48:59.800
<v Speaker 4>inability to stay on the field, like, the power has

1011
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:03.519
<v Speaker 4>shown up for him either. So you're a whittle walt

1012
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:06.039
<v Speaker 4>thing while he has left the yard and we have

1013
00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:09.760
<v Speaker 4>video evidence of it. This year, still still just two

1014
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:12.480
<v Speaker 4>home runs on the year, and again he's now over

1015
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.480
<v Speaker 4>two hundred plate appearances on the year as well. Some

1016
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.400
<v Speaker 4>of this is the a ball. I think he was

1017
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.320
<v Speaker 4>hitting the ball in the ground a lot. He hasn't

1018
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 4>been doing that as much in a small sample at Everett,

1019
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:24.719
<v Speaker 4>but still the power hasn't showed up just yet. But

1020
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:29.880
<v Speaker 4>I do wonder if there's some overlap in the kind

1021
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:33.559
<v Speaker 4>of hitter that Emerson is and Jenkins both are good

1022
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:36.599
<v Speaker 4>contact hitters and have decent approaches at the plate. But

1023
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:40.320
<v Speaker 4>the power, while maybe we've seen some underlying numbers, it's

1024
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 4>just at some point they've shown some good power for

1025
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:46.360
<v Speaker 4>their age, it hasn't showed up yet this year. And

1026
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:49.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm a little surprised Emerson hasn't hit the ground running

1027
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:51.440
<v Speaker 4>at HIA a little bit more and wonder if this

1028
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 4>is again for him, some injury rusts or whatever. But yeah,

1029
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 4>there's some interesting parallels there and Emerson I was more

1030
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:01.360
<v Speaker 4>in on last year than Jenkin, and certainly at costs,

1031
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:03.639
<v Speaker 4>and I think it's fair to raise some of these

1032
00:50:03.719 --> 00:50:05.440
<v Speaker 4>questions about Emerson at this point.

1033
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:09.760
<v Speaker 2>All right, your second trade was you sent Carson Williams

1034
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:11.559
<v Speaker 2>for Jet Williams.

1035
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:14.519
<v Speaker 4>I feel like that one I would I would want back.

1036
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's I know? You were? You were pretty you

1037
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:19.480
<v Speaker 2>were pretty fond of Jet coming into the season, and

1038
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I haven't paid a ton of attention to him. But

1039
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:22.920
<v Speaker 2>what's the story there?

1040
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:25.719
<v Speaker 4>Well, because he's been hurt. I mean, I feel like

1041
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.679
<v Speaker 4>this is the issue he had. Oh, I don't even

1042
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:35.719
<v Speaker 4>know what this is TFCC de bridement procedure. I don't

1043
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:38.320
<v Speaker 4>think I even knew what that freaking was and he was.

1044
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:42.599
<v Speaker 4>He was solid in his performance at Double A to

1045
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:44.960
<v Speaker 4>start the year. It was just fifty played appearances, one

1046
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:47.199
<v Speaker 4>hundred and three WRC plus is a twenty year old

1047
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:50.159
<v Speaker 4>in double A. Ten percent strikeout rate, six percent swinging

1048
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:51.760
<v Speaker 4>strike out rate for a twenty year old in double

1049
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:54.039
<v Speaker 4>as solid like good hit tool, and I think he

1050
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:55.840
<v Speaker 4>was trying to do his thing where he like pulled

1051
00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:58.960
<v Speaker 4>fly balls and made magic happen that way. But he

1052
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.559
<v Speaker 4>didn't have any home this year before he got hurt

1053
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:04.719
<v Speaker 4>and then so kind of a lost season for for Jet,

1054
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:08.559
<v Speaker 4>so that one like stopped down for Jet and injury

1055
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:10.000
<v Speaker 4>maybe long haul.

1056
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:13.039
<v Speaker 2>I think it's maybe still little yet to be determined.

1057
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.079
<v Speaker 4>Definitely yet to be determined. And I will say I think.

1058
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Since I had some had some issues too, right, I

1059
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>mean there's still a lot of isn't There still a

1060
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:23.039
<v Speaker 2>lot of chase there.

1061
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:25.679
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of chase, and there's swing and miss.

1062
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:28.679
<v Speaker 4>But he's I think, got a solid chance to go

1063
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:32.239
<v Speaker 4>twenty thirty five this year, depending on how the last

1064
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:34.880
<v Speaker 4>couple of weeks did the season go for him as

1065
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.519
<v Speaker 4>a twenty one year old in Double A. And the

1066
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:41.480
<v Speaker 4>strikeout rate, while high is at twenty six point eight percent,

1067
00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:45.119
<v Speaker 4>which considering last year at Hi A, what kind of

1068
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:47.119
<v Speaker 4>what we were looking at. He went in a ball

1069
00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:49.920
<v Speaker 4>and high thirty two percent and thirty one point eight

1070
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:53.519
<v Speaker 4>percent at those levels, so I was pretty worried about

1071
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 4>the strikeouts. And then in its like brief cup of

1072
00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:58.559
<v Speaker 4>coffee in Triple A, it was up to forty percent.

1073
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:03.039
<v Speaker 4>So seeing him post his lowest full season strikeout rate

1074
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:05.920
<v Speaker 4>at double A while still showing the power and speed.

1075
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:08.320
<v Speaker 4>And again I think we talked about this, but Carson

1076
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:10.639
<v Speaker 4>Williams could play a really good shortstop. I'm kind of

1077
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:14.320
<v Speaker 4>buying him as a very solid MLB defender at short

1078
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:18.519
<v Speaker 4>So I think Carson Williams certainly more than Jet Williams.

1079
00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:21.000
<v Speaker 4>He showed a lot more this year. And I think

1080
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 4>I mentioned this earlier in the year when we were

1081
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:26.000
<v Speaker 4>just looking at some early season performances. His early season

1082
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:30.440
<v Speaker 4>strikeout rate improvements. While they haven't stuck entirely, it's been

1083
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:33.239
<v Speaker 4>a lot better and it gives me a lot more

1084
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:36.280
<v Speaker 4>confidence in the overall profile. So like for me, Carson Williams,

1085
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:38.320
<v Speaker 4>he did a lot and a lot of this is

1086
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:39.719
<v Speaker 4>like the early part of the year. I think some

1087
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:42.440
<v Speaker 4>of this regressed a little bit, but he's good, Like

1088
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:44.920
<v Speaker 4>he is a very very good player and would be

1089
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.880
<v Speaker 4>firmly in my top twenty prospects.

1090
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, and then you made a little catcher swap, you

1091
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:53.960
<v Speaker 2>sent Kyle Teal for Dalton Rushing.

1092
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:56.159
<v Speaker 4>I still forgot about that one. I mean, I think

1093
00:52:56.360 --> 00:53:00.760
<v Speaker 4>Kyle til He's done actually better than I thought he

1094
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:03.559
<v Speaker 4>was going to this year. My issue with him last

1095
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:05.400
<v Speaker 4>year is that so much of the performance was like

1096
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:08.239
<v Speaker 4>babbit driven, hitting a bunch of line drives and running

1097
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:11.119
<v Speaker 4>a high babbit. And he has still run a high babbb.

1098
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:13.800
<v Speaker 4>But I'm more inclined to believe that this is a

1099
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:16.719
<v Speaker 4>little bit more skill base for him. Like he does

1100
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:21.440
<v Speaker 4>hit line drives pretty consistently, he does keep the strikeouts

1101
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:24.599
<v Speaker 4>in check. Like he's a solid baptaball hitter and a

1102
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:26.239
<v Speaker 4>good athlete, and I think he's going to be a

1103
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:29.719
<v Speaker 4>decent catcher, Like I still think for the Red Sox,

1104
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:33.440
<v Speaker 4>like they're still very happy with Kyle Teel. I'm kind

1105
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:37.280
<v Speaker 4>of buying that overall profile as like an athletic, you know,

1106
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:41.599
<v Speaker 4>maybe look at it as like early career JT. Real

1107
00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:44.360
<v Speaker 4>Muto with a few with fewer steals, you know, what

1108
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:46.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, like athletic guy, really good catcher, but hit

1109
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:49.239
<v Speaker 4>lots of line drives with a little bit of power.

1110
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.960
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm still kind of buying that overall picture of him.

1111
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 4>But for me, I'm still taking Dalton Rushing in basically

1112
00:53:56.719 --> 00:54:00.000
<v Speaker 4>every format. I mean, I guess maybe if you really

1113
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:03.119
<v Speaker 4>really need like a catcher and you want the speed,

1114
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:05.159
<v Speaker 4>like he's going to have more speed. Otel is going

1115
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:07.480
<v Speaker 4>to have more speed than Dalton Rushing is. But Dalton

1116
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 4>Rushing to me, is like an obp mashing catcher.

1117
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Who they're playing left field.

1118
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:15.679
<v Speaker 4>I heard he was taking some balls in left field,

1119
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:19.880
<v Speaker 4>and I think that's interesting, A little skeptical that's going

1120
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:22.719
<v Speaker 4>to work. Well, we'll see. I don't know, I haven't

1121
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:25.840
<v Speaker 4>ever thought of him as like super athletic watching him

1122
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.719
<v Speaker 4>run or even play catcher. I think he's a fine catcher.

1123
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:32.960
<v Speaker 4>But to me, that says more about their confidence, the

1124
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:36.719
<v Speaker 4>Dodger's confidence in his bat, and I'm I'm still I'm

1125
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:39.360
<v Speaker 4>still there with the confidence in his bat. You know,

1126
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:42.920
<v Speaker 4>he's kept the strikeout rates low in double A and

1127
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.280
<v Speaker 4>Triple A this year, at twenty point seven percent and

1128
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:49.599
<v Speaker 4>twenty two percent, respectively. The walk rates are above eleven

1129
00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:54.760
<v Speaker 4>percent at both stops, and he's sucked seventeen homers in

1130
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:57.760
<v Speaker 4>with with a solid battterball profile. I mean, I just

1131
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:00.440
<v Speaker 4>think he's a really, really good hitter, and I think

1132
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:03.480
<v Speaker 4>that that's going to carry its way through. So yeah,

1133
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 4>I still take Dalton Rushing's bat over Kyle Teels.

1134
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Now you had one more, the last one. I actually

1135
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:12.920
<v Speaker 2>kicked you off of our hypothetical team because you wanted

1136
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:16.559
<v Speaker 2>to make this trade. You sent Brady House for Brian Ramos,

1137
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:19.880
<v Speaker 2>who Ramos got a cup of coffee in the bigs.

1138
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:23.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it hasn't looked as good this year, although

1139
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:25.079
<v Speaker 4>I think he's starting to round into for him again.

1140
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:28.360
<v Speaker 4>I saw he's back and he's hitting in the International

1141
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:30.599
<v Speaker 4>League a bit better. He wasn't great in the BIGS,

1142
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:33.360
<v Speaker 4>and I think wasn't great even in the miners earlier

1143
00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:36.480
<v Speaker 4>this year, if I'm remembering right. But I still think

1144
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:40.920
<v Speaker 4>I like him better than Brady House. Brady House's approach

1145
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:44.320
<v Speaker 4>still bad, still not really hitting a ton of homers.

1146
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, this has been his best year and he

1147
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:48.880
<v Speaker 4>as a twenty one year old in Double A ran

1148
00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:52.239
<v Speaker 4>a one oh seven WRC plus that's like his and

1149
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:54.559
<v Speaker 4>he hit some homers, which was good. Brady House is

1150
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:58.079
<v Speaker 4>now at Triple A and scuffling again again, people lotting

1151
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:00.599
<v Speaker 4>the power. This is just ninety played appearance, but his

1152
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:03.800
<v Speaker 4>max TV has been one oh six, which is like

1153
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:08.280
<v Speaker 4>way way below m'lb average. And I don't know. I'm

1154
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:11.320
<v Speaker 4>sure that's going to come up as he gets comfortable

1155
00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:14.599
<v Speaker 4>with the level. But yeah, twenty six point seven percent

1156
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:17.239
<v Speaker 4>strikeout rate, three point three percent walk rate. I just

1157
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:19.360
<v Speaker 4>don't think his plate approach is very good. He's hit

1158
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 4>them all on the ground a lot. Don't really see

1159
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:22.719
<v Speaker 4>Brady House.

1160
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:26.079
<v Speaker 2>It's funny how it works. I'm still I'm still Brady

1161
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:28.880
<v Speaker 2>House fan and hopeful. And this might have been I

1162
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:30.800
<v Speaker 2>think at the time, at least to me, this was

1163
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:34.559
<v Speaker 2>the most interesting debate I think of yours. And it's

1164
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:36.639
<v Speaker 2>just funny how it works, right and the like, we're

1165
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.559
<v Speaker 2>half a year later and it's like, h this might

1166
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:40.480
<v Speaker 2>just be debating poop and poop.

1167
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:44.559
<v Speaker 4>Maybe maybe for sure, although like I said, I do

1168
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:48.400
<v Speaker 4>think that Ramos, you know, while he wasn't very good,

1169
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:51.800
<v Speaker 4>prety pretty bad in his major league debut, like so,

1170
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:55.519
<v Speaker 4>he got forty eight plate appearances, but his max TV

1171
00:56:55.800 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 4>was the same as Brian Ramos is Brady House is

1172
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:03.639
<v Speaker 4>in Triple A, and his average EVE was higher and

1173
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:06.199
<v Speaker 4>he struck out less. So I mean, like you look

1174
00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:08.360
<v Speaker 4>at some of the things that you have more control

1175
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:10.639
<v Speaker 4>over as a hitter. He was doing those better as

1176
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:14.039
<v Speaker 4>a twenty two year old in the show than Brian

1177
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:17.159
<v Speaker 4>Rama than Brady House is doing in Triple A. Now,

1178
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:19.440
<v Speaker 4>so you know, I don't know, we'll still.

1179
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Team House, but we'll see. No, I don't know, Matt,

1180
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you tell me here. I sent Drew Jones for Victor Barracoto,

1181
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:32.039
<v Speaker 2>who has not had the gatty season that I had

1182
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:34.599
<v Speaker 2>hoped for. But oh wait, wait, wait, there was a

1183
00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:38.239
<v Speaker 2>second piece because that was just such an unfair trade

1184
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:41.760
<v Speaker 2>that I also got Joey Estes. So do you like

1185
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:44.519
<v Speaker 2>that still? I think I still like that Drew Jones

1186
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:46.639
<v Speaker 2>for Barracoto and Estes. I think I'd do it.

1187
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:49.679
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's still I think positive value for you,

1188
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:53.039
<v Speaker 4>but that's mostly because I think Drew Jones isn't going

1189
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:55.639
<v Speaker 4>to make the major leagues, and I also don't think

1190
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:59.559
<v Speaker 4>Barracotta is. So you got one somewhat interesting back.

1191
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.639
<v Speaker 2>In somewhat interesting.

1192
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:06.800
<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, he said some good outings, he said,

1193
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:07.760
<v Speaker 4>some poop addings, you know.

1194
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right. Uh. My second one I sent who

1195
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I think was sitting around the top fifty at this juncture,

1196
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Luis anhil Acuna or Darryl Hernez and man I had

1197
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.559
<v Speaker 2>a chance to really crush this one, I think, but

1198
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:25.639
<v Speaker 2>I picked the wrong B side. Arm I went with

1199
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Alessandro Ercolani.

1200
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:29.800
<v Speaker 4>M G, would you feel better?

1201
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, definitely, But I'm thinking, like even I think

1202
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about Gary gil Hill so for some

1203
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:39.039
<v Speaker 2>style points, and I think he was but I went

1204
00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:42.239
<v Speaker 2>with Erkulani, who you know, he's very young and whatever.

1205
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:45.000
<v Speaker 2>He still has that really interesting slider. But I think

1206
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:48.000
<v Speaker 2>this one's still yet to be determined. Renees is back

1207
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:50.159
<v Speaker 2>and getting some major league run, but he has not

1208
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.840
<v Speaker 2>done anything of note yet, but yeah.

1209
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:55.960
<v Speaker 4>And hasn't been good or healthy either.

1210
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:58.400
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so you have to be determined there, I think.

1211
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:01.480
<v Speaker 2>And then my last one was centers, right, Yeah, I

1212
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:05.719
<v Speaker 2>sent Harry Ford for von Herrera, which I was really

1213
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:08.239
<v Speaker 2>liking and looking good when Herrera was getting some run,

1214
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:10.679
<v Speaker 2>and then he got hurt and they went with uh

1215
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:13.199
<v Speaker 2>pies instead, so he's down in triple A. I think

1216
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Herrera is hurt again, but I liked his showing. I

1217
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:18.360
<v Speaker 2>liked him for the most part. I thought he was

1218
00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:20.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of doing his thing at the major league level.

1219
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:21.719
<v Speaker 2>But I also got.

1220
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:24.639
<v Speaker 4>Horror is awesome. I like her a lot. Do they

1221
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:26.760
<v Speaker 4>think he can't catch it like I don't.

1222
00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched him preferred defensively. I don't know. I'm

1223
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:33.320
<v Speaker 2>just speculating, but I know Pies also was swinging it.

1224
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:36.440
<v Speaker 2>He had like a he had some like fourteen game

1225
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:39.199
<v Speaker 2>hit street going on or something like. He wasn't nothing

1226
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:41.119
<v Speaker 2>at the plate either, So I don't know.

1227
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:43.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like Herrera a lot. I think he's been

1228
00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:47.400
<v Speaker 4>really good, and he must be bad by some catcher

1229
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:50.119
<v Speaker 4>metrics because they just like aren't They weren't even playing

1230
00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:53.239
<v Speaker 4>him a lot when Wilson Caturs was hurt. I never

1231
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:53.800
<v Speaker 4>really got it.

1232
00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Uh, but then I also got Caten Dana in that trade.

1233
00:59:57.000 --> 00:59:59.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you've done. I

1234
00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:00.679
<v Speaker 4>think he did well, and I want to especially because

1235
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:04.440
<v Speaker 4>Harry Ford forgot how to hit homers in double A.

1236
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:06.199
<v Speaker 4>I think he hasn't had one a long time.

1237
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Arkansas, I think that's I think that's

1238
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:10.679
<v Speaker 2>a tough, tough place. There's some bats there that I

1239
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:12.960
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't like that I do like, you know,

1240
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:14.639
<v Speaker 2>and I haven't been watching a bunch of them just

1241
01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:18.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of box scoring it, but all of their productions

1242
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:21.119
<v Speaker 2>have sort of their service level stuff. His depth there.

1243
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:23.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it's interesting because Harry Ford was hitting for

1244
01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:26.519
<v Speaker 4>some fairly significant power early on. It was the thing

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<v Speaker 4>that I think it was. I think we had sighted

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<v Speaker 4>and said, they're like, I think he's going to struggle

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<v Speaker 4>to hit homers in Double A, and he came out

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<v Speaker 4>of the gates walking a lot, running, hitting some homers

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<v Speaker 4>and it looked really good. And then I think he's

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<v Speaker 4>just had a massive power out. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on there, and some of it might be

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<v Speaker 4>park and long and I'll be a season and all that,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, I was. I was, I think early in

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<v Speaker 4>the season when we briefly touched on this, like Harry

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<v Speaker 4>Ford was somebody that I had been really impressed with

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<v Speaker 4>that he was getting to the power in Arkansas and

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<v Speaker 4>and it has just disappeared. So yeah, and Avon Herrera

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<v Speaker 4>is awesome. I'm a huge fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Of his and it seemed to me doing that ADP

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<v Speaker 2>mock thing that Ford has has dipped in popularity.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>With those guys, but but yeah, I don't know. Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good to talk to you again, man.

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<v Speaker 4>You too, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll try to do this again to you. Like

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I'm starting to look toward twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five B side off season stuff too, And what I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed on my tracker, I think there's like sixty seven

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01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:30.079
<v Speaker 2>college bats from this last draft that are that have

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<v Speaker 2>hit full season already turning those those guys on a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. We've got I don't know. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>say there's probably about a dozen or fifteen college arms,

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<v Speaker 2>but they seem to be mostly relievers that have hit

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<v Speaker 2>full season, no prep arms, because you know, they got

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<v Speaker 2>that Bridge League now, which is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>bummer for us.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, Matt, they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna go there, They're not going to go to a

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<v Speaker 2>ball And then there has been one one prep bat

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<v Speaker 2>that made a full season debut, and that was PJ

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<v Speaker 2>Orlando and he had got one played appearance before he

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<v Speaker 2>got hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was classic Nate guy hurt can't play.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pop up trade season's kind of over, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think my B siding is shifting a little bit when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>You caught any of the demolition that Christian Moore has

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<v Speaker 4>put on the league so far?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, I mean shoot six home runs and then

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<v Speaker 2>knocking on the big league door evidently right with the

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<v Speaker 2>with the Angels.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a cool three seventy WRC plus in his minor

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<v Speaker 4>league career so far. I remember gushing about how great

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<v Speaker 4>Wyatt Langford was after his debut after his draft last year,

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<v Speaker 4>and Christian Moore is like, hold my beer, Wyatt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, yeah, so that'd be fun to see where

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<v Speaker 2>you know, where he goes during first year player draft season,

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<v Speaker 2>And well, man, I just I got to mention real

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<v Speaker 2>quick how awesome it was to see the Rockies score

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<v Speaker 2>seven runs in the bottom of the eighth to beat

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<v Speaker 2>your braves yesterday. That was that was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 4>You had to say that twice.

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<v Speaker 2>I still mean, well, I brought it up before we

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<v Speaker 2>started recording, so I wanted to get it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think we'll let Chicago Farmer take us out. Then good

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<v Speaker 2>to get back and chat. This was episode thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>of The Prospect B Sides podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, and we have some fun stuff coming up. I think,

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<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, a little bit of.

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<v Speaker 2>That, you know, yes, thank you, thank you. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have an awesome interview. I don't know when it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's gonna be the next episode,

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<v Speaker 2>next time we record, but I am super pumped. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how much how much should I tease Matt?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what to Yeah, I mean, you couldn't say,

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<v Speaker 4>like a really big deal college coach is gonna come

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<v Speaker 4>on like hot name, rising star kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you just say it, Well you just did say it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, So buddy of mine. Then I've I've cited

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of times on the pod. He got a

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<v Speaker 4>big new job, big promotion. And I just saw him

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of weeks ago and was talking to talking

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<v Speaker 4>to him about coming on the pod, and he said

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<v Speaker 4>he was down. So I think we're to get it's

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<v Speaker 4>an inside look into the college landscape. Big program, big

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<v Speaker 4>big college seasons coming up, and MAT's ready to geek

1328
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<v Speaker 4>out about some pictures because he's a pitching coach. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 4>I do like pictures, so that's that's my misfortune.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, I'm super pumped for making that happen. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a little pipe dream of mine to talk to a

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<v Speaker 2>big time pitching coach and get into some of that,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm super jazz for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we'll make it happen. It should be a fun conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>He knows his stuff for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll let Chicago Farmer take us out. Be well. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you next time later.

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<v Speaker 4>Now riding too is he?

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<v Speaker 1>You have him down first with the limp bone ass face,

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<v Speaker 1>and on the very next pitch he up and stole

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<v Speaker 1>second face.

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<v Speaker 3>With gretest he wasn't born, he had you're the fol