Speaker 1: Ninety five miles an hour riding too his head.
Speaker 2: He hopped down.
Speaker 1: First with the lump bonius face, and on the very
Speaker 1: next pitch he up and stole second face.
Speaker 3: With gradest be He wasn't fun, he had yes uniforn.
Speaker 2: Well, Hey, welcome to episode thirty eight of the Prospect
Speaker 2: B Sides podcast. I am Nate, Handy and Natty to
Speaker 2: the Natty is here. What it has been? What's up, dude?
Speaker 2: It's been a minute. Apologies, like a life things, it's
Speaker 2: just an episode a week. Thing just hasn't been happening.
Speaker 2: But we're still at it now. My my freaking laptop
Speaker 2: is on its last leg. It has been rough, dude.
Speaker 2: I can I can watch a game, I can watch
Speaker 2: a video where it's like if I touch anything, it's
Speaker 2: like I accidentally touch a key, the thing just like crashes.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I know how that goes. I just got
Speaker 4: a new computer myself, and it has been so nice
Speaker 4: to have a computer that works. Yeah, of course, it's
Speaker 4: just for work stuff, so it's less useful for our
Speaker 4: podcasting and deep dives on deep league fantasy prospects. But
Speaker 4: it is nice to have a working computer, except that,
Speaker 4: like the computer works, and then have I told you
Speaker 4: about this saga that I've been had going on with
Speaker 4: my internet? Like I get it that the internet service
Speaker 4: providers are monopolies and they're notorious for having the worst
Speaker 4: customer service, but it's just different when you have to
Speaker 4: deal with it. Like knowing that that's a fact and
Speaker 4: that other people have to deal with it, you're like, ah,
Speaker 4: that sucks. I hate Comcast, I hate CenturyLink, whatever. But
Speaker 4: then you actually experience it, and it feels like I'm
Speaker 4: in a dystopian future every time I talk to them,
Speaker 4: where it's should you not? Today I was on hold
Speaker 4: with them for three and a half hours today, three
Speaker 4: and a half hours for the guy to say, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna I'm really gonna own this problem. We're gonna get
Speaker 4: it fixed. And he looks it up and it's an
Speaker 4: area problem, he says, and it has nothing to do with me,
Speaker 4: and he can't help me. And I was like, but buddy,
Speaker 4: that might be true, there might be a widespread problem.
Speaker 4: But also, here's these other three things that you guys
Speaker 4: have done to my internet in the last month that
Speaker 4: are driving me crazy, and you can't fix them. You
Speaker 4: can't fix them. What's going on? And he's like, I
Speaker 4: can't help you with that. What we'll call you back
Speaker 4: when when we fix the bigger problem. I'm like, you're
Speaker 4: not gonna call me back. I'm gonna spend tomorrow on
Speaker 4: hold with you again. And it's just it's like being
Speaker 4: a fan of the White Sox. I guess you know
Speaker 4: where you're just like, you don't have a choice. You're
Speaker 4: from the South Side and you're like, I'm gonna like
Speaker 4: the White Sox. Maybe you had that one year in
Speaker 4: two thousand and five where you're like, oh, this team
Speaker 4: of Destiny and we won the World Series. I love
Speaker 4: fat Mark Burley. It's great. And now you're sucked in
Speaker 4: and you have no choice and you're a fan of
Speaker 4: the team that's going to break the record for the
Speaker 4: most losses in the season. I mean, it just sucks.
Speaker 2: You're poking a couple of sore spots there with me.
Speaker 2: I lived that nightmare with the nightmare or with the
Speaker 2: internet a couple of summers ago, Matt where I had
Speaker 2: there's nobody who would give me the internet. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a Metropolin, Denver and no internet, just none. No
Speaker 2: one could help me. I don't want to talk about
Speaker 2: the White Sox Man. But I do have to say
Speaker 2: this might be a dangerous night to be doing a podcast, Matt,
Speaker 2: because I'm in a mood. Man I am. I am
Speaker 2: jazzed up. It's playoff season. I've just got like I've
Speaker 2: just got like rage against the machine. Just like in
Speaker 2: my head, I want to run into somebody. I want
Speaker 2: to talk shit like it's it's like it's like fring
Speaker 2: training and like this time of year where I'm just
Speaker 2: like all the jerk juices just get flowing in me.
Speaker 2: So just a pos I had a time. You may
Speaker 2: catch a few strays here. I don't know what's going
Speaker 2: to happen. I just my mouth is liable to run
Speaker 2: off here.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm here for it. I fought with an ISP
Speaker 4: today and had a bunch of tough work meetings and
Speaker 4: so I'm I'm I'm ready to get fisy. Let's go.
Speaker 2: We're right for We're right for a fight here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: could get fun. This could get fun. Maybe start off
Speaker 2: talking about the Welsh is p one EIGHTYP drafts that
Speaker 2: he does. I participated in one. It's always fun. I
Speaker 2: always like to talk a little smack. But I'm the
Speaker 2: undisputed prospect mock Draft champion every year, you know, because
Speaker 2: obviously no one can disprove that. But I sent you
Speaker 2: over my little draft there, and I just wanted to
Speaker 2: I wanted to pick your brain. And I make any
Speaker 2: good choices that I make, any bad choices that I
Speaker 2: represent this podcast well in my showing there. What do
Speaker 2: you think so that he does five different drafts, twelve
Speaker 2: teams a piece, you do one hundred and eighty picks
Speaker 2: a piece, and then he just aggregate it all and
Speaker 2: just kind of use that as a little barometer prospect
Speaker 2: opinion that might be out there. And he does these
Speaker 2: with you know, people who do content, people who play.
Speaker 2: It's a good mix of folks. It's a fun time.
Speaker 2: I had a kind of a fun draft. I think
Speaker 2: Welsh was in it, and Beck was in it. Jeff
Speaker 2: Ponce was in it. Nice, Nice, a couple other industry
Speaker 2: for Beck was my my drafting neighbor. And he was
Speaker 2: a good neighbor. He didn't he didn't piss me off
Speaker 2: at all. You know, he was after he was after
Speaker 2: his whatever losers, and that was taking the studs.
Speaker 4: You know. And the idea is this is like Roto or.
Speaker 2: It's not really generic, not really specific, yeah, more or less.
Speaker 2: I mean Welsh is like he's like a head to
Speaker 2: have cats player, I think is his main deal. So
Speaker 2: I just kind of played it like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I love your first pick, which was Jason
Speaker 4: Dominguez at sixth overall. You know, I think there's a
Speaker 4: decent chance in a roto type format that he returns
Speaker 4: first overall pick. I imagine what a holiday would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like would holiday Cam and Aro left. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't remember who went like fifth and six, maybe Jenkins.
Speaker 2: I think Jenkins might have went before Duke.
Speaker 4: But okay, yeah, no, no, I mean so maybe if
Speaker 4: I was sitting at one, I would take Wood over Dominga's,
Speaker 4: but that might be it for me. Like I know,
Speaker 4: Domingas hasn't set the world on fire coming back from
Speaker 4: injury this year, and you know, we'll see when he
Speaker 4: gets to New York how things shake out. But people
Speaker 4: forget that he steals maces really well, and I think
Speaker 4: the power really plays. So I think that's just a
Speaker 4: great pick.
Speaker 2: At sick, I figured that you would, that you'd endorse
Speaker 2: that you've talked fondly of his dynasty value.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then at nineteen overall taking Andrew Paynter. I'm
Speaker 4: surprised you waited that long, like I mean sitting him
Speaker 4: there at six, Like, I'm I kind of think you
Speaker 4: might have considered hovering over that key.
Speaker 2: At my top of my key was Jaye Amond on
Speaker 2: Painter right there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not surprised. So that's I think good value
Speaker 4: there too. Like there are not that many really great
Speaker 4: pictures in the minor and Painter I still think is
Speaker 4: going to be one of them. So I thought that
Speaker 4: was a good pick.
Speaker 2: Beck was right in front of me and he took
Speaker 2: the first picture Job, and then I took Painter.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, yeah, I think I prefer Painter did job.
Speaker 4: I mean, Job was great last year, but we might
Speaker 4: have mentioned this that the innings were a bit of
Speaker 4: a concern and then obviously the command has kind of
Speaker 4: backed up this year for Job. Still like him long term,
Speaker 4: you know, because what he did last year was really good.
Speaker 4: But yeah, and the injury thing Painters at least was
Speaker 4: just an elbow, right, we know about those jobs is
Speaker 4: like Job's is like back and leg or something. I
Speaker 4: don't know. So anyway, I like that thirty. I think
Speaker 4: this is probably the first pick where a bunch of
Speaker 4: other people were like, really, you know moistis by Asteros.
Speaker 4: Do you get any chirps on this one?
Speaker 2: Uh? Not No, not too much, I don't think. But
Speaker 2: I thought you'd like that. I thought you'd back me
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 4: I certainly do. And at thirty again, like I might
Speaker 4: have played the game a little bit and tried to
Speaker 4: see if I can float him down into the forties
Speaker 4: because I think most people don't have him that high.
Speaker 4: But remember this dude is like twenty years old and
Speaker 4: just crushing double A and triple A as a real,
Speaker 4: real young guy. And I think, you know, people knock
Speaker 4: him because he looks like a bowling ball. Fine, you
Speaker 4: can do that, but he really really knows how to hit.
Speaker 4: And I just love that kind of guy. So definite
Speaker 4: co sign there. Again, speed's not going to be part
Speaker 4: of his game. He's a catcher and that's probably his
Speaker 4: best position. So if he slides down the defensive spectrum,
Speaker 4: it's going to be more three or four category production.
Speaker 4: So I could see like the upside being a little
Speaker 4: bit limited there. But I think that bat is real, real,
Speaker 4: so love that one.
Speaker 2: He's a hitter. To me, it's a hit or play
Speaker 2: with position, whatever.
Speaker 4: Going down your picture real quick quick, Ethan Sallas. I
Speaker 4: mean this time last year you couldn't have gotten him
Speaker 4: at forty three. He's still super young, and I think
Speaker 4: there's a lot of great baseball reasons to like him.
Speaker 4: I still question what the fantasy impact parts to be.
Speaker 4: Jordan Beck, I know you like him. We've talked about
Speaker 4: him on the pod before. He was your next one
Speaker 4: at fifty four, Caid Cavali at sixty seven. I like
Speaker 4: this one. He hasn't shown as much as I thought
Speaker 4: he would coming back, but just.
Speaker 2: He's came back for a little bit then been on
Speaker 2: the shelf and I don't know what's going on with him.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we've talked about him before though that, and
Speaker 4: I'm with you on this, like I think the skills
Speaker 4: there are really good and hopefully the health pulls it
Speaker 4: back together. That's the real risk with him and with
Speaker 4: lots of pictures. And then I see your horse Caden Dana,
Speaker 4: who I've been giving you a hard time that he's
Speaker 4: more circus, uh Mary go around pony rather than true thoroughbred.
Speaker 4: But he's very good and I do think he is
Speaker 4: a solid picture. I think The thing about him that
Speaker 4: is interesting that you've identified is that he does seem
Speaker 4: to be able to hold his stuff and work deep
Speaker 4: into games. I questioned the kind of ultimate strikeout upside
Speaker 4: I see him settling in more as like you're who's
Speaker 4: a good example of this? He says like, I don't
Speaker 4: know Stroman without the ground balls. I just think that
Speaker 4: the strike up upside isn't going to be huge with him,
Speaker 4: but he's a decent pitcher and is going to get out.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's more Merril Kelly kind of ask, is a
Speaker 4: like upside version of this. Maybe I think that's fair.
Speaker 2: I've been impressed with just him literally adding just another
Speaker 2: dimension to his to his game this season, Like there's
Speaker 2: a lot more East West game yeah we had last
Speaker 2: year and you know, still very young. Love to see that.
Speaker 2: Who knows what he might be able to add, you know,
Speaker 2: in the years coming and game and.
Speaker 4: He's very young too, and seeing him progress this quickly,
Speaker 4: this young, I think says a lot. There are a
Speaker 4: lot of high school pitchers who people have loved and
Speaker 4: they haven't had this kind of progression. So honestly, kudos
Speaker 4: to him. His development has been really good. And then
Speaker 4: just a couple of quick hitters here. PJ. Moorlando, I
Speaker 4: know you've talked a bit about him. Maybe we'll keep
Speaker 4: that one on the D d L while we revisited
Speaker 4: with our offseason stuff. Drew Romo, I like that pick
Speaker 4: at one oh two. I've still think he's a really
Speaker 4: good catcher, and he's sort of been quietly solid this year.
Speaker 4: I think there's some other catchers that I mean, you
Speaker 4: took two good ones already, so I might have diversified
Speaker 4: away from the catcher position, but some lot.
Speaker 2: Of times I was thinking about another catcher, but I
Speaker 2: was like, dude, I don't want to go like that.
Speaker 2: Got like two or three right now, Like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And surprisingly, I think a lot of the catchers
Speaker 4: have done pretty well this year in the minors where
Speaker 4: we've talked about some of the other positions have been
Speaker 4: kind of down maybe, but I feel like the catchers
Speaker 4: have kind of showed out decently this year and moved
Speaker 4: up boards pretty well. Then Maser and Burrows like both
Speaker 4: of these guys, both near to the bigs, both sort
Speaker 4: of like four or five kind of pictures maybe with
Speaker 4: if they figure something out a little bit more upside.
Speaker 4: But I'm a fan of both growing.
Speaker 2: I felt like at that point, I felt like earlier
Speaker 2: it was like, all right, I'm not like super convinced
Speaker 2: that there's a ton of everyday bats out here, Like,
Speaker 2: who are some arms I don't mind taking a gamble on?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and those are good ones back in top hundred
Speaker 4: and early top one fifty kinds good old Chucky McAdoo
Speaker 4: Charles McAdoo now in Toronto, which is so weird to me.
Speaker 4: But one of our boys got trade deadline. He was
Speaker 4: a good pick. Us Baiaz another guy that we like.
Speaker 4: And I've been a fan of Robbie Snelling though I
Speaker 4: think that's the first one where I'm like, really, there
Speaker 4: was nobody better than Robbie Snelling there at one sixty three.
Speaker 2: I'm not forgetting twenty twenty three. And did you see
Speaker 2: the start that he had yesterday?
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 2: He shoved for six innings. All right, that's fair. I'll
Speaker 2: take some criticism on that. I think with him. Jesse
Speaker 2: Severe had me on Dynasty Sports Life pod last week
Speaker 2: and we just talked about some the prospects that got traded,
Speaker 2: not pretty boys, the other guys just talking then, Like,
Speaker 2: to me, a bet on him is just kind of
Speaker 2: a lot of like intangible sort of stuff. Obviously, the
Speaker 2: performance hasn't been that great this year, but it was
Speaker 2: pretty freaking awesome last year. And then who knows, maybe
Speaker 2: a little change of scenery might might be good for him.
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit more hands on direction with the
Speaker 2: Blue Jays. I don't know, but that's the hope anyways.
Speaker 4: With the Marlins, right, Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. With
Speaker 4: the Mars, Robbie, Yeah, and that regiment there in Miami,
Speaker 4: I think they have done a pretty good job at
Speaker 4: least of the targets they've gone after, and coming from
Speaker 4: the Rays, that organization maybe has a bit more analytical
Speaker 4: bent than they have previously. So it's not like getting
Speaker 4: traded to the Marlins now is like, oh shit, that
Speaker 4: guy's gone to a dev team that they don't know
Speaker 4: anything about what they're doing. So in that case, I
Speaker 4: think some people used to feel that way about the Marlins,
Speaker 4: and rightly or wrongly, but yeah, it's not a terrible
Speaker 4: landing spot for Snelling and he definitely has some talent.
Speaker 4: But for me, at this stage in the one sixties,
Speaker 4: one seventies, I personally probably would have been looking for bats.
Speaker 4: But we are different humans and then you with your
Speaker 4: guy Ryan Gusto.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just a little fun one. Ye see
Speaker 2: what happens there. He's still been really good man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and starts now that he is uh, he's carving.
Speaker 4: People don't give that enough credit, like you is no joke, man.
Speaker 4: The run environment there is crazy and if you have
Speaker 4: any kind of success like this is the ole. I
Speaker 4: remember getting into a bunch of arguments about this with
Speaker 4: with people a couple of years ago. I think it
Speaker 4: was like Gavin Stone or something where I was like,
Speaker 4: this guy's really good, Like he just chopped up the
Speaker 4: PCL and that's really hard to do. And then you know,
Speaker 4: had some bumps in the bigs and then kind of
Speaker 4: has figured it out a little bit. But anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a hard place to pitch.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like I represented us all right there?
Speaker 2: Do I get?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: This is this is solid? This is really really solid.
Speaker 4: And I don't have the whole board here, so you know,
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's some that I would qubble with more
Speaker 4: looking at the whole board. It's been a minute since
Speaker 4: I've done any kind of prospecting draft like this, but yeah,
Speaker 4: I think you did really well. At the top and
Speaker 4: that matters the most, and then you got a lot
Speaker 4: of fun guy in the middle of it. I think
Speaker 4: are gonna very likely to return value, which is another
Speaker 4: thing that's interesting about these Like you see people going
Speaker 4: after your Mizerowskis and you're kind of super high upside
Speaker 4: young guys that are doing great, but like you're George
Speaker 4: Wolcose or whatever who have forty percent strikeout rates in
Speaker 4: a ball and they're like, oh, but it's the power,
Speaker 4: and you're like, well, but is he ever going to
Speaker 4: touch the ball enough to make that matter? Like, I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 2: I think my biggest takeaway from being involved in that
Speaker 2: was what I kind of felt to be. I think
Speaker 2: the pretty boys are struggling right now. I felt like
Speaker 2: there was a lot of grasping for some pretty boy hope,
Speaker 2: you know, like Jenkins being a top ten pick.
Speaker 4: People love him man, and I just don't freaking get it.
Speaker 4: The strikeout rates ticking up into the mid teens. He's
Speaker 4: not hitting for power. I'm just like, like, I get it.
Speaker 2: I just I felt like the you know you talk
Speaker 2: about first round, second round, top twenty thirty or so,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of young, lesser proven bats that were
Speaker 2: being taken than I think years past, and that might
Speaker 2: just be kind of the way of the land right now.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I thought that was kind of interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I'm like way more into sort of searching through
Speaker 2: the higher level more I do maybe past B side
Speaker 2: or B Saide esque bats right now for some teams
Speaker 2: that I'm trying to you know, reload or get some
Speaker 2: value out of pretty quick here. You know, like we've
Speaker 2: had some some B sides that have recently got the
Speaker 2: call up. Matt Baldwin, Natcho Herder, Gaparo, Tanya's back up.
Speaker 2: I know he was, He's been up before, but up
Speaker 2: with his new team the Nats now really kind of
Speaker 2: thinking about what might be what might might be the
Speaker 2: kind of next wave for guys like that, you know,
Speaker 2: Sonoya Terso I think is real close. Yeah, real interesting. So,
Speaker 2: I don't know, there's there's definitely my RAS thirty team.
Speaker 2: I've definitely said. I even had some and made some
Speaker 2: trades and had some younger guys and I said, you
Speaker 2: know what, screw this, I'm going to cash all these
Speaker 2: guys in to try to get these types that are
Speaker 2: close and just just see how it goes. I like it,
Speaker 2: have a little fun. And then that the last thing
Speaker 2: on the P one ADP that I always find interesting
Speaker 2: when we do this thing. It's one hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: pick draft, right, there's five of them. How many total
Speaker 2: players do you think we're taken across those five?
Speaker 4: I will say a bigger number this year than I
Speaker 4: feel like usually, So I'm going to say two fifty.
Speaker 2: Two hundred and sixty something, which I think might be
Speaker 2: a little bit lower than the last time we did it.
Speaker 4: Really, Oh, I'm surprised.
Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you this, So what what's what's
Speaker 2: five times twelve sixty? So there are sixty people that
Speaker 2: took part in this. If you took like sixty people
Speaker 2: from a MLB scouting department and they did something like this,
Speaker 2: how many players do you think would be picked? More
Speaker 2: or less? And this is just a hypothetical, fun question.
Speaker 2: I have no idea.
Speaker 4: I feel like less. You think so, I think so,
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 2: And here's why I have it in my head that
Speaker 2: if they got to go and do it, there'd be
Speaker 2: like three hundred and fifty players taken. They'd way more.
Speaker 2: But what do I know? I don't know anything.
Speaker 4: So here's the reason why I don't think that's true.
Speaker 4: I think if that were true, we would see more
Speaker 4: trades in the major leagues, and we did just see
Speaker 4: a lot for the trade deadline. But if teams really
Speaker 4: did have that wide of variance on who they liked
Speaker 4: on other teams, such that they had like three hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty different unique guys that they think should be
Speaker 4: top one eighty, I think there would be more trades
Speaker 4: where they were trying to leverage that preference right where
Speaker 4: they wanted to do more minor swaps or old veteran
Speaker 4: that it like maybe is fringy value, and they try
Speaker 4: and pick up some of those we call them more
Speaker 4: b side s guys that like we value, but those
Speaker 4: guys don't. And I think the dynasty community has a
Speaker 4: little bit more hurting, especially in like mocks like this,
Speaker 4: where people really mostly are like they don't want their
Speaker 4: picks to look stupid or something, and so they heard
Speaker 4: a little bit closer together. So normally I would say
Speaker 4: and something like that was five teams, I would say
Speaker 4: like maybe two twenty two thirty, especially in years past
Speaker 4: where I feel like the top one hundred was a
Speaker 4: little bit tighter a little bit stronger, and then like
Speaker 4: you look at Post one hundred, maybe there's two hundred
Speaker 4: guys that you could make an argument for that, but
Speaker 4: most people are still making an argument for the same
Speaker 4: kind of fifty to ninety of them that fit in there.
Speaker 4: And I think in teams that doesn't happen as much,
Speaker 4: partly because they care more about defense and that gives
Speaker 4: like a little bit more there's a little bit more
Speaker 4: weight to a category that really dynasty owners ended up
Speaker 4: not caring very much about, and partly because if there
Speaker 4: was such big differences, I think they would act on
Speaker 4: them more, you know. I think that's that's myhypothesis here.
Speaker 2: Like I said, who knows, But my question would be
Speaker 2: to that is how much time do you are MLB
Speaker 2: teams spending looking at other organizations? I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I've heard of a couple of organizations just in the
Speaker 2: last year or two that were just essentially getting a
Speaker 2: pro scouting department started. So who was doing this stuff?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have no idea what any of
Speaker 2: that looks like. But I just always I think.
Speaker 4: It really depends, like there are teams that spend a
Speaker 4: lot of time on this. I have heard folks like
Speaker 4: the Brewers spend a lot of time on this. I
Speaker 4: think the Rays spend a lot of time on this,
Speaker 4: especially that would make the seasons like this where they
Speaker 4: sold a bit, and then you look at some of
Speaker 4: the guys that they got back. I thought they did
Speaker 4: pretty well, right Like, they picked up some players that
Speaker 4: I thought were really good, you know, like a bunch
Speaker 4: of B side guys that we liked went for Zach Efflin,
Speaker 4: right Like, that was a really interesting trade that was
Speaker 4: like B side heavy. So I think there are some
Speaker 4: teams that spend a lot of time focusing on that,
Speaker 4: and especially the sellers. If you know your team isn't
Speaker 4: going to be great, but you got a little bit
Speaker 4: of capital at the major league level, I think they
Speaker 4: might turn a bunch of the guys that normally spend
Speaker 4: on development for their team or amateur scouting, and they
Speaker 4: might turn them to like pro scouting, you know. So
Speaker 4: maybe Miami did a lot of that this year where
Speaker 4: they're like playoff team recently, but they knew pretty early
Speaker 4: on they were going to be one of the few sellers,
Speaker 4: and they focused a lot of their efforts that way.
Speaker 4: So I wouldn't be surprised if they dialed that up
Speaker 4: and down depending on the year.
Speaker 2: For no really reason at all. My dream is to
Speaker 2: be a part of a P one ADP MAC and
Speaker 2: find out that four hundred and fifty players were taken
Speaker 2: in one hundred and eighty player drafts.
Speaker 4: That would be surprising.
Speaker 2: I love the diversity and opinions, and more players the
Speaker 2: better to me. I don't know what you've been getting
Speaker 2: into lately. Well you've been watching any guys, You've had
Speaker 2: your ion. I've got a few year. It's nice to
Speaker 2: see Cale Durban's back and he popped a home.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was good.
Speaker 2: Finally I'm miss turning that little that little spark plug on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you if you've been paying attention
Speaker 2: to like of mine for a while, Jordan Diez who
Speaker 2: got DFA and no one picked him up. It's off
Speaker 2: the forty man, but he's been like tearing up the
Speaker 2: PCO a little bit here, and like, maybe did you
Speaker 2: pick him up? Did you just pick him up?
Speaker 4: In one of our leagues? Was I was? I think
Speaker 4: it was somebody else, but I like hovered over him
Speaker 4: for a good ten minutes, I think because I was
Speaker 4: scrolling through because that was in WGM, I think where
Speaker 4: it was our last waiver run of the year. On Sunday,
Speaker 4: I really looked at him and I was like, mate,
Speaker 4: do I want to stash him on that team?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: I didn't, but he was the last change, the last cut,
Speaker 4: because I still think there's a chance he's a solid
Speaker 4: big leaguer.
Speaker 2: Like over the last twenty two games three eighty one
Speaker 2: four seventeen seven two slash with nine home runs and
Speaker 2: six doubles fifteen strikeouts.
Speaker 4: Like that's pretty fun.
Speaker 2: I've always been drawn to this bat, and you know,
Speaker 2: I feel like I broke up with him, but now,
Speaker 2: you know, see him at a party and he's looking nice.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know if I made
Speaker 2: the right call there, but he's he's caught my attention.
Speaker 2: Like I think we mentioned, I think Terso's pretty close
Speaker 2: son of getting the chance when that might come for
Speaker 2: the Padres. But you know, he's been on one for
Speaker 2: a minute. I've been impressed with and these these are
Speaker 2: all just former B side guys, Matt, but edgar Quero
Speaker 2: has been.
Speaker 4: Doing it a yep, it looks good again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just the last couple of series. He's
Speaker 2: just like hitting four hundred, slugging damn near seven hundred
Speaker 2: and hitting some home runs. A couple of guys. I
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you about that. I haven't watched a
Speaker 2: whole ton of just kind of started turning them on
Speaker 2: this weekend and trying to see some at thats. But
Speaker 2: have you been noticing young Luis Castillo of the Brewer
Speaker 2: system at all? He's down in Carolina, got called up
Speaker 2: from the complex.
Speaker 4: I happened, tell me about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is more just you know, getting my
Speaker 2: attention on the stat lines and just starting to get
Speaker 2: in the video. But last twenty one games with Carolina,
Speaker 2: he's popped five home runs, He's struck out fourteen times,
Speaker 2: he's walked eighteen times. He's slashing three twenty eight, four
Speaker 2: ninety four, six ninety, He's twenty years old. I think
Speaker 2: they got him playing outfield. Maybe Mark, that guy has
Speaker 2: someone to do some homework on. That's basically where I'm
Speaker 2: at with him right now, and I checked. I think
Speaker 2: he's zero to one percent rostered right now. Love that
Speaker 2: the Giants have this undrafted I think it was twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three undrafted free agent Bo Davidson, same story. I
Speaker 2: want to just start watching him some more. But last
Speaker 2: eighteen games, four fifty eight, five ninety eight, thirty one,
Speaker 2: four home runs, four stolen bases, struck out twelve times,
Speaker 2: walked seventeen times, so one four to one ops over
Speaker 2: his little a ball run right now. I think he's
Speaker 2: twenty one years old, college guy. But I know very
Speaker 2: little about him, but want to learn more. And I
Speaker 2: want to know, Matt, what you think about Luke Adams.
Speaker 2: Do you have any opinions there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a big Luke Adams fan. I think he
Speaker 4: gets knocked for having kind of a funky swing, though
Speaker 4: I believe he's toned that down a bit this year,
Speaker 4: at least last time I saw him, it look like
Speaker 4: a little bit less funky. But the things that he
Speaker 4: does well, I think he walks a lot, he hits
Speaker 4: the ball hard.
Speaker 2: I think his slug isn't real high, right, but.
Speaker 4: It's it's Yeah, it's not super high, but he still
Speaker 4: has decent power, even if it's less light tower power,
Speaker 4: you know, I think he still can. He pulls the
Speaker 4: ball a pretty solid amount. Yeah, I mean he's pulling
Speaker 4: the ball almost half the time this year and you know,
Speaker 4: his flyball rate isn't super high, but it's still good
Speaker 4: enough that he's like doing damage on contact. And I
Speaker 4: don't think he's a great base runner, but he's a
Speaker 4: cup steals away from going back to back thirty seasons
Speaker 4: thirty still seasons. He's not fast, and he does get
Speaker 4: caught a decent amount, but I like the aggressiveness.
Speaker 2: He's kind of an odd duck. Huh. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I think he's like sort of one of
Speaker 4: those classic, you know, not quite B side guys, because
Speaker 4: I think he gets a little more love than we
Speaker 4: usually get behind. But he is sort of odd in
Speaker 4: his movements, you know, almost like Hunter Pence esque. I'd
Speaker 4: say it doesn't look like it should work, but there's
Speaker 4: some things about it that are are pretty athletic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got some unnatural in him right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And still in HIA, I got him in like a
Speaker 2: little throw in just to throw him patting care or whatever. Okay,
Speaker 2: you're gonna add him. Cool. But in RASS thirty where
Speaker 2: you can only pe play twenty five guys and I
Speaker 2: basically have fifty players on the bubble, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if she's if she'd be worth it
Speaker 2: there and that. I don't know. I don't really know
Speaker 2: what to do with him. I've seen him. I think
Speaker 2: he's gotten on some Twitter people's top one hundred lists
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's really good. And I think I
Speaker 4: said this in the Dynasty I got the other day
Speaker 4: and Craig poop pooed me for it, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I guess, you know, like he's the classic scout View guy,
Speaker 4: but he's performed pretty well the last couple of years
Speaker 4: and I think he's I think he's good. I like
Speaker 4: him again, probably for me, he's probably like top hundred
Speaker 4: asking back end part of it as a hitter, he
Speaker 4: does a lot of stuff that I like, and I
Speaker 4: can see it all right.
Speaker 2: I saw some chatter going on today in the discord
Speaker 2: about Jonathan Long, who I know we have, yeah, brought
Speaker 2: up a few times, but he got promoted to double
Speaker 2: A and like it's kind of been kind of been
Speaker 2: hitting it man four two, five forty one, six h
Speaker 2: nine slug over the last nineteen games, popped a couple
Speaker 2: of home runs. Yeah, I think he's kind of an
Speaker 2: interesting b side asked that, especially if that sort of
Speaker 2: success continues. I know, I kind of like the look
Speaker 2: of him at the plate. So yeah, So Jonathan Long's
Speaker 2: promotion has been kind of interesting. Nat, I don't know,
Speaker 2: have you ever turned on Peyton Williams in Blue Jays systems?
Speaker 4: From Yes, but it's been a bit.
Speaker 2: He was like almost my Blue Jays B side call
Speaker 2: this year. I Am not saying roster him or anything
Speaker 2: like that, but his bat has kind of come around.
Speaker 2: You know, he's a big boy and he can he
Speaker 2: can put a charge into one too, but there's like
Speaker 2: a little blend of some hitting there. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't bet that anything really comes of it, but
Speaker 2: putting together a nice back half of the season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're really selling him, selling him good.
Speaker 2: He's funny. You gotta get some love to the big boys, Matt.
Speaker 4: I do love a big boy, especially big boys from Iowa.
Speaker 2: To my people. All right, well, you know that's a
Speaker 2: that's are pretty boring. Anyways. I want to talk about
Speaker 2: an arm real quick, Matt. An arm that I'm kind
Speaker 2: of getting more and more excited about the more I
Speaker 2: watch him. And that's Iverson Castiano with the with the Phillies.
Speaker 4: I haven't watched him.
Speaker 2: Talk to me about him I would have loved to
Speaker 2: have been fly on the wall during the trade conversations
Speaker 2: that the Phillies had with the Angels, because I'd be
Speaker 2: super curious to know how the Phillies view Castillano compared
Speaker 2: to those two, or vice versa, what the Angels may
Speaker 2: have thought. I don't know how much they looked into him,
Speaker 2: but U there are some It's definitely not one to one.
Speaker 2: But when I watch him, I kind of think about
Speaker 2: Ben Brown when he was with the Phillies a little bit,
Speaker 2: and that is just kind of like, I think it's
Speaker 2: a pretty good fastball. I don't think the slider shapes
Speaker 2: are like the same, but I'd love to love to
Speaker 2: compare Ben Brown's breaker and his breaker just on a
Speaker 2: nice nerdy metric sheet and just see what the differences
Speaker 2: are there. But Castillano has got promoted to double A.
Speaker 2: He's made four starts there now forty eight innings, one
Speaker 2: six four ERA a point nine to one, whip thirty
Speaker 2: two percent, k percentage seven percent, walks, throwing strikes at
Speaker 2: about sixty two percent. He's given up one home run
Speaker 2: over those four starts and four earned runs. Maybe a
Speaker 2: little bit of a bigger body, boy, I think he's
Speaker 2: about twenty three right handed. Yeah, you know, just like
Speaker 2: anybody that I'm gonna like. Man, it's a blend of
Speaker 2: pitching and stuff. And impressed me with his move up
Speaker 2: to the uppers here his first four goes at it,
Speaker 2: I think, faring a lot better than maybe I would
Speaker 2: have bet on right out the gate. But there's a
Speaker 2: nasty breaker there that I think he can that he
Speaker 2: uses pretty well. There's there's other secondaries. It's a potential
Speaker 2: full kitchen sink. But I've already you know now that
Speaker 2: sort of pop up season. I think it's kind of over,
Speaker 2: and trade deadlines are nearing the end and playoffs are starting.
Speaker 2: I'm starting to turn towards twenty twenty five B side work,
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm harvesting my names and trying to turn
Speaker 2: on video and they haven't gotten real too deep. But
Speaker 2: if Castiano is sticking around at zero to one percent
Speaker 2: like he is right now, this is a no brainer.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five Phillies B side arm for.
Speaker 4: Me, I like it. Early early flag rays on Castano interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I went, you know, after I traded away
Speaker 2: a bunch of arms, I put my you know, got
Speaker 2: a group together of arms. I was like, I see
Speaker 2: how the rest of the season goes, and I'll pick
Speaker 2: these guys up. And he was near the top of
Speaker 2: all those lists for me, and so far, so good.
Speaker 2: Haven't regretted. You know, I'm just taking a little flyer
Speaker 2: on him and he'll be sticking around on some of
Speaker 2: my rosters for sure. Nice. Your boy, Chris compos put
Speaker 2: up a monster. Why on the other day did you
Speaker 2: see that? Maybe last week I did not. He went
Speaker 2: like he went like eight or something. I don't shut out,
Speaker 2: but I don't have it in front of me, but
Speaker 2: it was. It was dominance on the day. And I
Speaker 2: have to admit you told me to go back and
Speaker 2: watch him, and I have turned him on for like
Speaker 2: a batter or two at a time and then got
Speaker 2: way way into something else and haven't completed watching him
Speaker 2: outing of his yet. But yeah, you might be. You
Speaker 2: might be someone interesting pay attention to. I've seen a
Speaker 2: little bit of chatter going on about him.
Speaker 4: I was just perusing the like last twenty one day
Speaker 4: leaderboard that I go to every now and then on Fangrafts,
Speaker 4: and he's a couple pages deep. I think he's still
Speaker 4: doing well, but not not outstanding, but at the top
Speaker 4: of this leaderboard is just like B side B side
Speaker 4: B side, you know, Caden Dana, Mason Barnett, Ryan Gusto,
Speaker 4: Chen way Lynd, Gary Gil Hill, Omar Cruz. So. I
Speaker 4: don't know if we've talked about, but he's someone that's
Speaker 4: popped on a couple of my leader boards last month,
Speaker 4: or so Ander Suarez. It's just like a lot of
Speaker 4: the guys that we we like have been I think,
Speaker 4: rounding into form even after they haven't had great seasons.
Speaker 4: Even Red Van Scooter, you know, RBS has had injuries
Speaker 4: and a little bit of underperformance at double A, but
Speaker 4: I think he's rounding into form as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've been of late, I've been liking what
Speaker 2: I've been seeing from some of our B side arms
Speaker 2: that didn't, you know, get the jumping popularity, like Jurmine
Speaker 2: Rosario is getting double run. I've liked a couple of
Speaker 2: last starts. I watched DJ McCarty. I think he's starting
Speaker 2: to He's.
Speaker 4: Got a couple and then yeah, Mullins again still a
Speaker 4: little wild, but he had an outing that I tuned
Speaker 4: in for a bit of maybe been last week and
Speaker 4: I think he went four innings, but it was like
Speaker 4: eight punch outs and two walks or something. It was
Speaker 4: like short and a little bit wild, which is kind
Speaker 4: of what he does. But swing and miss still seems
Speaker 4: like it's really there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there might be Uh, it might be a
Speaker 2: good year to double down on a couple couple of
Speaker 2: B side arms for us. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Oh, another one that I think I had mentioned this
Speaker 4: offseason Braves minor leaguer Lucas Braun. Yeah, talking about Braun
Speaker 4: in a system that there weren't a ton of guys
Speaker 4: to really like. I think my official B side one
Speaker 4: was di'a Villa, who's been fun and decent this year
Speaker 4: and again. But Lucas Braun I think continues to be
Speaker 4: one of those like under the radar, maybe back of
Speaker 4: the rotation looking starters, but there might be a touch
Speaker 4: more there, and he's throwing volume and get some strikeouts
Speaker 4: and limits the walks. He's just another guy that I
Speaker 4: keep every so often. Every week. That's another couple of
Speaker 4: decent Lucas Braun starts in there, so he's another one
Speaker 4: to come back to. Yeah, all right, here's here's one.
Speaker 2: I spend a lot of time this time of year.
Speaker 2: Just looking at you know, smaller, smaller samples is what's
Speaker 2: going on the last month, the last six weeks, you
Speaker 2: see some lines and some small samples. Were like, man,
Speaker 2: if this would have happened the first month of the season,
Speaker 2: this guy would have been a huge jump in popularity.
Speaker 2: So I think that's a big part of my sort
Speaker 2: of b side process coming into next year.
Speaker 4: All Right, Nate, who is the full season pitching leader
Speaker 4: in lowest walk percentage this year?
Speaker 2: Full season? I just looked at this, that would be
Speaker 2: Zebbie Matthews, right.
Speaker 4: Indeed, it is mister call up and guy that I
Speaker 4: think we both have co signed and said we really
Speaker 4: really like mister Zebbie Matthews.
Speaker 2: We're on the eve of his debut tomorrow.
Speaker 4: I know, I'm very excited for that. I think that'll
Speaker 4: be great.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of secretly wishing that he gets rocked.
Speaker 4: And he might. I mean again, like, this is a
Speaker 4: pretty aggressive set of advancements by the Twins, and he's
Speaker 4: a command pitcher, but it's like he throws a lot
Speaker 4: of strikes and in the big leagues that can get punished.
Speaker 2: Yeah, filling the zone up there different than filling the
Speaker 2: zone down there.
Speaker 4: That's true. I still am a believer. I think he's
Speaker 4: going to be quite good, so that it would be fun.
Speaker 2: But I'd like to see him get rocked and get cheap.
Speaker 4: Good luck with that. I think a lot of people
Speaker 4: really like him. Okay, so who's number two?
Speaker 2: I just looked at this because I wanted to see
Speaker 2: where Sean Sullivan was. I know Sean Sullivan's up there.
Speaker 4: Sean Sullivan is number two. Yeah, And that's that's why
Speaker 4: I want to bring this up, because I know you
Speaker 4: had posted was that like a K minus BB leaderboard
Speaker 4: perhaps in the Dynasty I got and there were a
Speaker 4: bunch of Rockies in there, and the top number two
Speaker 4: or something for.
Speaker 2: The top eight full season guys are.
Speaker 4: Rockets Rockies, and Sean Sullivan's up there, and our buddy
Speaker 4: Chris Kleaig was poo pooing it because Sullivan's bastball isn't
Speaker 4: good enough for him. What say you to that? Mate? Oh?
Speaker 2: Well, I say, you know, this is this is us
Speaker 2: and the velocity number is something to be considered and
Speaker 2: a component, but that an end all be all. You know,
Speaker 2: Like Clegg's not interested because he doesn't throw hard, which
Speaker 2: is fine, you know, that's probably part of a process
Speaker 2: that will work well for some people. But ain't I
Speaker 2: ain't crossing a guy off my board because his fastballs
Speaker 2: wasn't he said that it was coming in at eighty eight,
Speaker 2: eighty nine or something like that. I feel like i've
Speaker 2: seen him, you know, lower nineties. But who knows. That
Speaker 2: could be a discrepancy and the measurement, the tools taking
Speaker 2: the measurement, who knows. But to me, it's more like
Speaker 2: I asked him, like, well, and I don't know what
Speaker 2: it is, but I'm like, what's the whift percentage on
Speaker 2: that pitch? Because I see a lot of whiffs on
Speaker 2: that and of course, you know hitters are going to
Speaker 2: get better. Maybe he doesn't have that same sort of success,
Speaker 2: but I've been I'm on it. I want to. I'll
Speaker 2: place a bet on him to some extent that you know,
Speaker 2: he's at least going to ascend well in the miners.
Speaker 2: And who knows what happens pitching in elevation and then
Speaker 2: away from elevation, but a guy like him could maybe
Speaker 2: portend to better success than others. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just know it's a real funky different fastball. And we
Speaker 2: just saw our guy who's got a different and lefty fastball.
Speaker 2: Bradford do it again in the majors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And for Sullivan, I just think these like really low
Speaker 4: walk guys get kind of underrated at times, which is
Speaker 4: sort of weird to say, but like people are like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: it's not going to work at the higher levels, but
Speaker 4: it's a hell of a floor to start from when
Speaker 4: you just like know you're not going to throw balls
Speaker 4: like that's I don't know. And he gets whiffs more
Speaker 4: than some of the other guys Like Pearson Ole was
Speaker 4: my guy who was like this last year, but he
Speaker 4: never really got whiffs even at the lower levels. He
Speaker 4: just made it work because he refused to walk. Anybody
Speaker 4: hasn't been as good this year, but Sullivan still gets whiffs.
Speaker 4: And it seems to me my like the few times
Speaker 4: that I've put him on for full stretches, the fastball
Speaker 4: might not be overpowering, but to your point, it gets whiffs.
Speaker 4: It looks kind of funny coming in and I think
Speaker 4: his secondary's play like it plays off of that. It
Speaker 4: keeps guys off balance even though they know like okay,
Speaker 4: eighty six is coming or whatever. None of these guys
Speaker 4: just squaring that up. I mean, I don't know, I
Speaker 4: quite like him, and he's another one that to me
Speaker 4: like screams, this is a bye to me, It's like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's a Rocky and there's problems at the big league
Speaker 4: level with that, But what he's showing is I think
Speaker 4: good skills there.
Speaker 2: I agree, And you know, I think it says I
Speaker 2: think it says a lot in a good way that
Speaker 2: an MLB team, even if it's the Rockies and you
Speaker 2: want to make whatever joke. And I know that they
Speaker 2: weren't the only team that valued him in this draft range,
Speaker 2: but they took a guy who doesn't throw very hard
Speaker 2: at all in the second round. I think that speaks
Speaker 2: volumes about what they might think the total package and
Speaker 2: success could be with him. So I'm in man, I
Speaker 2: like Sullivan. When I put out that top twenty thing
Speaker 2: that Sullivan was in it for me. You know, there
Speaker 2: might be a horrible fantasy bet and I get that,
Speaker 2: but as just a minor league arm to kind of ride,
Speaker 2: I'm into that left handed fastball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he's right there with Quinn Matthews, Zebbie Matthews,
Speaker 4: tug Bill Wilkinson for best CA minus BB and in
Speaker 4: full season ball and just ahead of Jase Kaminska and
Speaker 4: Chase Dolander, both Rockies as well. The Rockies seem like
Speaker 4: they've got some interesting arms in there, and like the
Speaker 4: jump from Sullivan to like pass Dolander and Jonah Thong
Speaker 4: down to like the next set of like guys you know,
Speaker 4: like called real pitching prospects that have good K minus
Speaker 4: bb ear down to Austin Peterson, Jade and Hamm Parker
Speaker 4: Messik at around just under twenty three percent CA minus
Speaker 4: b B and like, sure, you want to discount this
Speaker 4: is the minor leagues and all of that, but Sullivan
Speaker 4: is what is that four percent clear of them? Four
Speaker 4: four and a half percent clear of that next tier down,
Speaker 4: Like that's that's a lot. That's a lot of CA
Speaker 4: minus BB percentage to move. So I don't know Man's
Speaker 4: He's one that like, I really really like. I've tried
Speaker 4: to get him on the cheap in a couple of places,
Speaker 4: but unfortunately the people that had him we didn't line
Speaker 4: up in trades in a couple of places this offseason
Speaker 4: or this trade deviline season. But he continues to be
Speaker 4: one that I'm interested in for the longer run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I think he got promoted. Did
Speaker 2: you get promoted to double A? Did he make a
Speaker 2: double A start? I think he did, didn't he? Yes?
Speaker 4: I think he did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some good eyeballs, good tests, good, a better idea
Speaker 2: of how it we'll play against more advanced hitters. But yeah, Matt,
Speaker 2: So you know, talk about trade season. We had some
Speaker 2: fun this last off season and did some trades, right,
Speaker 2: We were trading away some consensus top one hundred guys
Speaker 2: for not consensus top one hundred guys or yeah, four
Speaker 2: guys that were maybe maybe valued. Maybe some of these
Speaker 2: guys that were in your trades were still top one hundred,
Speaker 2: but much less so regarded than who you traded away.
Speaker 2: And I just got curious and turn that show back
Speaker 2: on just to see who we were talking about. And
Speaker 2: our plan was to revisit these a year later and
Speaker 2: see how we felt about them. So we'll reserve our
Speaker 2: total final judgment. But you want to, you want to
Speaker 2: take a look at these real quick.
Speaker 4: Sure, I gotta be honest, I don't remember. Yeah, people
Speaker 4: we talked about.
Speaker 2: I remember I threw my three trades up here in
Speaker 2: the discord, and nobody wanted my side of the trades.
Speaker 2: I remember that. Let's see here, Matt, you traded away
Speaker 2: young Walter Jenkins. Sure did yep in this hypothetical for
Speaker 2: Max Clark, but you also said or Emmanuel Rodriguez. Now
Speaker 2: I know in these ADPs that we did, these Welsher's
Speaker 2: mock drafts that Jenkins I think went suldly ahead of
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Rodriguez. Clark might have been there might have been
Speaker 2: a few where Clark went before Jenkins, but for the
Speaker 2: most part, Jenkins was before Clark. But how do you
Speaker 2: feel about that? Right now? Would you still trade walk
Speaker 2: Jenkins away from one of those two?
Speaker 4: I mean, for Emmanuel or Rodriguez, I would do that
Speaker 4: a million times over. I just think that, like I
Speaker 4: do not understand this, Emmanuel Rodriguez is passive and therefore
Speaker 4: nothing else that he's doing is real. Like to me,
Speaker 4: that take is so tired. He's passive, and sure he
Speaker 4: gives up some strikeouts because of that, but he also
Speaker 4: walks an absolute shit ton because of that, like twenty
Speaker 4: five percent walk rate currently and double as a twenty
Speaker 4: one year old. And he's had some injuries this year.
Speaker 4: He had the hand thing. And I think he's had
Speaker 4: some other Nichols here and there. Yeah, thumb thumbstrain, and
Speaker 4: I think he's just now coming back.
Speaker 2: But this is the Twins top prospect problem going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, gets hurt all the time. I guess I will
Speaker 4: admit I did just trade Emmanuel Rodriguez away in my
Speaker 4: trade deadline in one of my thirties to get Chris
Speaker 4: Sale from my Points League thirty team or push like,
Speaker 4: And I didn't really want to do it, but I
Speaker 4: was like him plus some other stuff to get Chris
Speaker 4: Sale and hopefully Sales my acetime down the stretch. And
Speaker 4: I went a championship. And I won't regret this, but
Speaker 4: I'm telling you I looked at in this format every
Speaker 4: other team, every other prospect. I would not trade Emmanuel
Speaker 4: Rodriguez straight up for any of them. Not for James Wood,
Speaker 4: not for Junior Ki I'm an arrow, certainly, not for
Speaker 4: Walker Jenkins. Like for me in this format that I
Speaker 4: had him, he was the perfect prospect. And you know
Speaker 4: I'm still aggressive with that. I'm going to trade them
Speaker 4: away for valuable production now, especially at a place of need,
Speaker 4: as I did. But Amanu or I guess for me,
Speaker 4: is just a no doubt top three, top one fantasy
Speaker 4: prospect in leagues like this where the strikeouts are aren't
Speaker 4: going to matter less, Like he's not going to run
Speaker 4: a two ninety eight average in the majors, I don't think.
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be more like two fifty
Speaker 4: to forty. But if you're in an OBP league, that's
Speaker 4: going to come with a four hundred OBP. I'm telling me,
Speaker 4: this kid is so good and he hits this shit
Speaker 4: out of the ball when he makes contact when he
Speaker 4: decides to swing. So for me, like this, this was
Speaker 4: an OBP power focused points league, so I was like,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't trade him for anybody in in the minors.
Speaker 4: So yes, I would make that trade one hundred times
Speaker 4: over day. A little bit less confident about that with
Speaker 4: Max Clark, who has been solid, but he looks to
Speaker 4: me more like a well rounded, okay player than a
Speaker 4: star in the making, which is what I think Em
Speaker 4: Rodriguez is going to be. Walker Jenkins, on the other hand, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's had some issues, soft tissue ones now, like a
Speaker 4: bunch of them, hamstring, quad whatever, quite a few issues
Speaker 4: so far, and people were excited about his a ball
Speaker 4: stand as a nineteen year old. You know, one P
Speaker 4: thirty nine WRC plus a bunch of the peripherals look good.
Speaker 4: Eleven percent strikeout rate, Like normally, this is the kind
Speaker 4: of guy that I'm into, right, He walks some, doesn't
Speaker 4: strike out much, hits the ball pretty hard, is reasonably fast.
Speaker 4: I just look at it and I'm like, I don't
Speaker 4: get why people are stuffing him so high. Other guys
Speaker 4: that had this similar profile are like lottery ticket back end,
Speaker 4: top one hundred type maybe, and people are shoving this
Speaker 4: guy in top five in some mocks. He got promoted
Speaker 4: to high A. And yeah, it's just forty five plate
Speaker 4: appearances so far, but the strikeout rate has ticked up
Speaker 4: to slightly above average than elite as it was. He's
Speaker 4: not walking six point seven percent walk rate. He's popping
Speaker 4: the ball up a bunch t which I had noted
Speaker 4: earlier in the year was the thing that he was doing.
Speaker 4: He's like hitting the ball in the air a lot
Speaker 4: and has zero homers fifty four almost fifty five percent
Speaker 4: fly balls and fifty five percent pull rate Nate, and
Speaker 4: he's not leaving the yard zero home runs. His ISO
Speaker 4: isn't very good. It's one twenty nine, I think right
Speaker 4: now one twenty eight, and I don't think it's like
Speaker 4: been looking very good. So I still think people love him,
Speaker 4: and I think people are still like this is a
Speaker 4: top five pick, generational type talent from a strong draft
Speaker 4: class last year, and I don't think i've seen anything
Speaker 4: that backs set up for me personally. I genuinely think
Speaker 4: what someone like McGonagall has done has been way more impressive.
Speaker 2: That was gonna be my question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wont McGonagall straight up over over Jenkins personally,
Speaker 4: and McGonagall just got to hurt too, himmate deal. But
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I just I really have not
Speaker 4: been impressed by the live looks. I haven't been impressed
Speaker 4: by the numbers. Just I don't get it. And maybe
Speaker 4: this is just the guy that I never get that
Speaker 4: happens sometimes. And maybe maybe next year he's going to
Speaker 4: be totally healthy, he's going to settle in at high
Speaker 4: and double A and really rake and I'm gonna look
Speaker 4: stupid on this, but the way things sit right now,
Speaker 4: I would definitely trade him straight up for Max Clark.
Speaker 4: And even though Max Clark has been fine, not great,
Speaker 4: but fine, and boy one hundred times out of one hundred,
Speaker 4: I'm training him for a many or yes, no question.
Speaker 2: When I went back and was listening, you were to
Speaker 2: this episode you were talking about you know, I think
Speaker 2: I remember correctly Jenkins was lauded as an amateur because
Speaker 2: he hit the ball really hard. That was part of
Speaker 2: that was part of it. And you were referencing, remember
Speaker 2: that somebody put up that chart what was it exivelocities
Speaker 2: and contact rates or whatever from guys at the reps
Speaker 2: at the end of last year, and you were like,
Speaker 2: where's the hard hit? What is happening? And I know,
Speaker 2: I think he was coming off. Was he coming off
Speaker 2: of a ham at bone to or something like?
Speaker 4: It was a hammate? I think it was like a
Speaker 4: ham string. Like I think it has mostly been.
Speaker 2: Like getting ham Still, you were like, where's the hard hit?
Speaker 2: And now it seems to be kind of continuing a
Speaker 2: little bit. Now it's like where where is this?
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I mean he's almost two hundred plate appearances
Speaker 4: into the year again having missed some time, I guess,
Speaker 4: including his complex rehab. He's two hundred plus plate appearances
Speaker 4: into the year and has three home runs. It's all
Speaker 4: been at low levels like, Okay, maybe it's you know,
Speaker 4: some rehab stuff some whatever, But I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: I'm just like, I don't think, at least from what
Speaker 4: I've seen reported, I don't think the exit bulos are great.
Speaker 4: His contact seems good to maybe very good. Like we'll
Speaker 4: see how that shakes out, but it's if the power
Speaker 4: isn't there and it's like above average contact, not elite contact.
Speaker 4: I just don't know if you're gonna like what you
Speaker 4: get is sound like he's swiping a lot of bags either.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: This feels like the kind of production that really kills
Speaker 4: a fantasy team that you're like, you're not getting steals.
Speaker 4: Maybe the babbit dips a little bit and now you're
Speaker 4: not getting much return on anything.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: He's just not my guy. So yeah, I know I'm
Speaker 4: doing this trade again, all right.
Speaker 2: Just I wasn't planning on getting into these two guys here,
Speaker 2: But because we're here, I'm bummed. I'm a bit disappointed
Speaker 2: by both of these players because what we're like mid
Speaker 2: August right now. I was hoping to have a real good,
Speaker 2: juicy duel and debate going on about these two players.
Speaker 2: But TJ. Walton has been a rough season. He just
Speaker 2: can't say on the field. Yeah, but uh, I'm curious
Speaker 2: what you're thinking of Little Woltz twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not been very good, you know. And as
Speaker 4: a as a Mariners fan, I'm rooting for him and
Speaker 4: think that what he showed last year, I think I
Speaker 4: said like he had done about as well as you
Speaker 4: can do post debut to just kind of showcase the talent.
Speaker 4: And I think one of the things that has been
Speaker 4: interesting about Colt Emerson is other than his kind of
Speaker 4: inability to stay on the field, like, the power has
Speaker 4: shown up for him either. So you're a whittle walt
Speaker 4: thing while he has left the yard and we have
Speaker 4: video evidence of it. This year, still still just two
Speaker 4: home runs on the year, and again he's now over
Speaker 4: two hundred plate appearances on the year as well. Some
Speaker 4: of this is the a ball. I think he was
Speaker 4: hitting the ball in the ground a lot. He hasn't
Speaker 4: been doing that as much in a small sample at Everett,
Speaker 4: but still the power hasn't showed up just yet. But
Speaker 4: I do wonder if there's some overlap in the kind
Speaker 4: of hitter that Emerson is and Jenkins both are good
Speaker 4: contact hitters and have decent approaches at the plate. But
Speaker 4: the power, while maybe we've seen some underlying numbers, it's
Speaker 4: just at some point they've shown some good power for
Speaker 4: their age, it hasn't showed up yet this year. And
Speaker 4: I'm a little surprised Emerson hasn't hit the ground running
Speaker 4: at HIA a little bit more and wonder if this
Speaker 4: is again for him, some injury rusts or whatever. But yeah,
Speaker 4: there's some interesting parallels there and Emerson I was more
Speaker 4: in on last year than Jenkin, and certainly at costs,
Speaker 4: and I think it's fair to raise some of these
Speaker 4: questions about Emerson at this point.
Speaker 2: All right, your second trade was you sent Carson Williams
Speaker 2: for Jet Williams.
Speaker 4: I feel like that one I would I would want back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's I know? You were? You were pretty you
Speaker 2: were pretty fond of Jet coming into the season, and
Speaker 2: I haven't paid a ton of attention to him. But
Speaker 2: what's the story there?
Speaker 4: Well, because he's been hurt. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 4: this is the issue he had. Oh, I don't even
Speaker 4: know what this is TFCC de bridement procedure. I don't
Speaker 4: think I even knew what that freaking was and he was.
Speaker 4: He was solid in his performance at Double A to
Speaker 4: start the year. It was just fifty played appearances, one
Speaker 4: hundred and three WRC plus is a twenty year old
Speaker 4: in double A. Ten percent strikeout rate, six percent swinging
Speaker 4: strike out rate for a twenty year old in double
Speaker 4: as solid like good hit tool, and I think he
Speaker 4: was trying to do his thing where he like pulled
Speaker 4: fly balls and made magic happen that way. But he
Speaker 4: didn't have any home this year before he got hurt
Speaker 4: and then so kind of a lost season for for Jet,
Speaker 4: so that one like stopped down for Jet and injury
Speaker 4: maybe long haul.
Speaker 2: I think it's maybe still little yet to be determined.
Speaker 4: Definitely yet to be determined. And I will say I think.
Speaker 2: Since I had some had some issues too, right, I
Speaker 2: mean there's still a lot of isn't There still a
Speaker 2: lot of chase there.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of chase, and there's swing and miss.
Speaker 4: But he's I think, got a solid chance to go
Speaker 4: twenty thirty five this year, depending on how the last
Speaker 4: couple of weeks did the season go for him as
Speaker 4: a twenty one year old in Double A. And the
Speaker 4: strikeout rate, while high is at twenty six point eight percent,
Speaker 4: which considering last year at Hi A, what kind of
Speaker 4: what we were looking at. He went in a ball
Speaker 4: and high thirty two percent and thirty one point eight
Speaker 4: percent at those levels, so I was pretty worried about
Speaker 4: the strikeouts. And then in its like brief cup of
Speaker 4: coffee in Triple A, it was up to forty percent.
Speaker 4: So seeing him post his lowest full season strikeout rate
Speaker 4: at double A while still showing the power and speed.
Speaker 4: And again I think we talked about this, but Carson
Speaker 4: Williams could play a really good shortstop. I'm kind of
Speaker 4: buying him as a very solid MLB defender at short
Speaker 4: So I think Carson Williams certainly more than Jet Williams.
Speaker 4: He showed a lot more this year. And I think
Speaker 4: I mentioned this earlier in the year when we were
Speaker 4: just looking at some early season performances. His early season
Speaker 4: strikeout rate improvements. While they haven't stuck entirely, it's been
Speaker 4: a lot better and it gives me a lot more
Speaker 4: confidence in the overall profile. So like for me, Carson Williams,
Speaker 4: he did a lot and a lot of this is
Speaker 4: like the early part of the year. I think some
Speaker 4: of this regressed a little bit, but he's good, Like
Speaker 4: he is a very very good player and would be
Speaker 4: firmly in my top twenty prospects.
Speaker 2: Right, and then you made a little catcher swap, you
Speaker 2: sent Kyle Teal for Dalton Rushing.
Speaker 4: I still forgot about that one. I mean, I think
Speaker 4: Kyle til He's done actually better than I thought he
Speaker 4: was going to this year. My issue with him last
Speaker 4: year is that so much of the performance was like
Speaker 4: babbit driven, hitting a bunch of line drives and running
Speaker 4: a high babbit. And he has still run a high babbb.
Speaker 4: But I'm more inclined to believe that this is a
Speaker 4: little bit more skill base for him. Like he does
Speaker 4: hit line drives pretty consistently, he does keep the strikeouts
Speaker 4: in check. Like he's a solid baptaball hitter and a
Speaker 4: good athlete, and I think he's going to be a
Speaker 4: decent catcher, Like I still think for the Red Sox,
Speaker 4: like they're still very happy with Kyle Teel. I'm kind
Speaker 4: of buying that overall profile as like an athletic, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe look at it as like early career JT. Real
Speaker 4: Muto with a few with fewer steals, you know, what
Speaker 4: I mean, like athletic guy, really good catcher, but hit
Speaker 4: lots of line drives with a little bit of power.
Speaker 4: Like I'm still kind of buying that overall picture of him.
Speaker 4: But for me, I'm still taking Dalton Rushing in basically
Speaker 4: every format. I mean, I guess maybe if you really
Speaker 4: really need like a catcher and you want the speed,
Speaker 4: like he's going to have more speed. Otel is going
Speaker 4: to have more speed than Dalton Rushing is. But Dalton
Speaker 4: Rushing to me, is like an obp mashing catcher.
Speaker 2: Who they're playing left field.
Speaker 4: I heard he was taking some balls in left field,
Speaker 4: and I think that's interesting, A little skeptical that's going
Speaker 4: to work. Well, we'll see. I don't know, I haven't
Speaker 4: ever thought of him as like super athletic watching him
Speaker 4: run or even play catcher. I think he's a fine catcher.
Speaker 4: But to me, that says more about their confidence, the
Speaker 4: Dodger's confidence in his bat, and I'm I'm still I'm
Speaker 4: still there with the confidence in his bat. You know,
Speaker 4: he's kept the strikeout rates low in double A and
Speaker 4: Triple A this year, at twenty point seven percent and
Speaker 4: twenty two percent, respectively. The walk rates are above eleven
Speaker 4: percent at both stops, and he's sucked seventeen homers in
Speaker 4: with with a solid battterball profile. I mean, I just
Speaker 4: think he's a really, really good hitter, and I think
Speaker 4: that that's going to carry its way through. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I still take Dalton Rushing's bat over Kyle Teels.
Speaker 2: Now you had one more, the last one. I actually
Speaker 2: kicked you off of our hypothetical team because you wanted
Speaker 2: to make this trade. You sent Brady House for Brian Ramos,
Speaker 2: who Ramos got a cup of coffee in the bigs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it hasn't looked as good this year, although
Speaker 4: I think he's starting to round into for him again.
Speaker 4: I saw he's back and he's hitting in the International
Speaker 4: League a bit better. He wasn't great in the BIGS,
Speaker 4: and I think wasn't great even in the miners earlier
Speaker 4: this year, if I'm remembering right. But I still think
Speaker 4: I like him better than Brady House. Brady House's approach
Speaker 4: still bad, still not really hitting a ton of homers.
Speaker 4: I mean, this has been his best year and he
Speaker 4: as a twenty one year old in Double A ran
Speaker 4: a one oh seven WRC plus that's like his and
Speaker 4: he hit some homers, which was good. Brady House is
Speaker 4: now at Triple A and scuffling again again, people lotting
Speaker 4: the power. This is just ninety played appearance, but his
Speaker 4: max TV has been one oh six, which is like
Speaker 4: way way below m'lb average. And I don't know. I'm
Speaker 4: sure that's going to come up as he gets comfortable
Speaker 4: with the level. But yeah, twenty six point seven percent
Speaker 4: strikeout rate, three point three percent walk rate. I just
Speaker 4: don't think his plate approach is very good. He's hit
Speaker 4: them all on the ground a lot. Don't really see
Speaker 4: Brady House.
Speaker 2: It's funny how it works. I'm still I'm still Brady
Speaker 2: House fan and hopeful. And this might have been I
Speaker 2: think at the time, at least to me, this was
Speaker 2: the most interesting debate I think of yours. And it's
Speaker 2: just funny how it works, right and the like, we're
Speaker 2: half a year later and it's like, h this might
Speaker 2: just be debating poop and poop.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe for sure, although like I said, I do
Speaker 4: think that Ramos, you know, while he wasn't very good,
Speaker 4: prety pretty bad in his major league debut, like so,
Speaker 4: he got forty eight plate appearances, but his max TV
Speaker 4: was the same as Brian Ramos is Brady House is
Speaker 4: in Triple A, and his average EVE was higher and
Speaker 4: he struck out less. So I mean, like you look
Speaker 4: at some of the things that you have more control
Speaker 4: over as a hitter. He was doing those better as
Speaker 4: a twenty two year old in the show than Brian
Speaker 4: Rama than Brady House is doing in Triple A. Now,
Speaker 4: so you know, I don't know, we'll still.
Speaker 2: Team House, but we'll see. No, I don't know, Matt,
Speaker 2: you tell me here. I sent Drew Jones for Victor Barracoto,
Speaker 2: who has not had the gatty season that I had
Speaker 2: hoped for. But oh wait, wait, wait, there was a
Speaker 2: second piece because that was just such an unfair trade
Speaker 2: that I also got Joey Estes. So do you like
Speaker 2: that still? I think I still like that Drew Jones
Speaker 2: for Barracoto and Estes. I think I'd do it.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's still I think positive value for you,
Speaker 4: but that's mostly because I think Drew Jones isn't going
Speaker 4: to make the major leagues, and I also don't think
Speaker 4: Barracotta is. So you got one somewhat interesting back.
Speaker 2: In somewhat interesting.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, he said some good outings, he said,
Speaker 4: some poop addings, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Uh. My second one I sent who
Speaker 2: I think was sitting around the top fifty at this juncture,
Speaker 2: Luis anhil Acuna or Darryl Hernez and man I had
Speaker 2: a chance to really crush this one, I think, but
Speaker 2: I picked the wrong B side. Arm I went with
Speaker 2: Alessandro Ercolani.
Speaker 4: M G, would you feel better?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely, But I'm thinking, like even I think
Speaker 2: I was thinking about Gary gil Hill so for some
Speaker 2: style points, and I think he was but I went
Speaker 2: with Erkulani, who you know, he's very young and whatever.
Speaker 2: He still has that really interesting slider. But I think
Speaker 2: this one's still yet to be determined. Renees is back
Speaker 2: and getting some major league run, but he has not
Speaker 2: done anything of note yet, but yeah.
Speaker 4: And hasn't been good or healthy either.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so you have to be determined there, I think.
Speaker 2: And then my last one was centers, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: sent Harry Ford for von Herrera, which I was really
Speaker 2: liking and looking good when Herrera was getting some run,
Speaker 2: and then he got hurt and they went with uh
Speaker 2: pies instead, so he's down in triple A. I think
Speaker 2: Herrera is hurt again, but I liked his showing. I
Speaker 2: liked him for the most part. I thought he was
Speaker 2: kind of doing his thing at the major league level.
Speaker 2: But I also got.
Speaker 4: Horror is awesome. I like her a lot. Do they
Speaker 4: think he can't catch it like I don't.
Speaker 2: I haven't watched him preferred defensively. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 2: just speculating, but I know Pies also was swinging it.
Speaker 2: He had like a he had some like fourteen game
Speaker 2: hit street going on or something like. He wasn't nothing
Speaker 2: at the plate either, So I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like Herrera a lot. I think he's been
Speaker 4: really good, and he must be bad by some catcher
Speaker 4: metrics because they just like aren't They weren't even playing
Speaker 4: him a lot when Wilson Caturs was hurt. I never
Speaker 4: really got it.
Speaker 2: Uh, but then I also got Caten Dana in that trade.
Speaker 4: Oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you've done. I
Speaker 4: think he did well, and I want to especially because
Speaker 4: Harry Ford forgot how to hit homers in double A.
Speaker 4: I think he hasn't had one a long time.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Arkansas, I think that's I think that's
Speaker 2: a tough, tough place. There's some bats there that I
Speaker 2: that I didn't like that I do like, you know,
Speaker 2: and I haven't been watching a bunch of them just
Speaker 2: kind of box scoring it, but all of their productions
Speaker 2: have sort of their service level stuff. His depth there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's interesting because Harry Ford was hitting for
Speaker 4: some fairly significant power early on. It was the thing
Speaker 4: that I think it was. I think we had sighted
Speaker 4: and said, they're like, I think he's going to struggle
Speaker 4: to hit homers in Double A, and he came out
Speaker 4: of the gates walking a lot, running, hitting some homers
Speaker 4: and it looked really good. And then I think he's
Speaker 4: just had a massive power out. So I don't know
Speaker 4: what's going on there, and some of it might be
Speaker 4: park and long and I'll be a season and all that,
Speaker 4: but yeah, I was. I was, I think early in
Speaker 4: the season when we briefly touched on this, like Harry
Speaker 4: Ford was somebody that I had been really impressed with
Speaker 4: that he was getting to the power in Arkansas and
Speaker 4: and it has just disappeared. So yeah, and Avon Herrera
Speaker 4: is awesome. I'm a huge fan.
Speaker 2: Of his and it seemed to me doing that ADP
Speaker 2: mock thing that Ford has has dipped in popularity.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 2: With those guys, but but yeah, I don't know. Matt.
Speaker 2: It's good to talk to you again, man.
Speaker 4: You too, buddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll try to do this again to you. Like
Speaker 2: like I said, I'm starting to look toward twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five B side off season stuff too, And what I
Speaker 2: noticed on my tracker, I think there's like sixty seven
Speaker 2: college bats from this last draft that are that have
Speaker 2: hit full season already turning those those guys on a
Speaker 2: little bit. We've got I don't know. I want to
Speaker 2: say there's probably about a dozen or fifteen college arms,
Speaker 2: but they seem to be mostly relievers that have hit
Speaker 2: full season, no prep arms, because you know, they got
Speaker 2: that Bridge League now, which is going to be a
Speaker 2: bummer for us.
Speaker 4: I think, Matt, they're.
Speaker 2: Gonna go there, They're not going to go to a
Speaker 2: ball And then there has been one one prep bat
Speaker 2: that made a full season debut, and that was PJ
Speaker 2: Orlando and he had got one played appearance before he
Speaker 2: got hurt.
Speaker 4: So that was classic Nate guy hurt can't play.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's like I said,
Speaker 2: it's pop up trade season's kind of over, so I
Speaker 2: think my B siding is shifting a little bit when
Speaker 2: I'm trying to watch.
Speaker 4: You caught any of the demolition that Christian Moore has
Speaker 4: put on the league so far?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean shoot six home runs and then
Speaker 2: knocking on the big league door evidently right with the
Speaker 2: with the Angels.
Speaker 4: Just a cool three seventy WRC plus in his minor
Speaker 4: league career so far. I remember gushing about how great
Speaker 4: Wyatt Langford was after his debut after his draft last year,
Speaker 4: and Christian Moore is like, hold my beer, Wyatt.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, so that'd be fun to see where
Speaker 2: you know, where he goes during first year player draft season,
Speaker 2: And well, man, I just I got to mention real
Speaker 2: quick how awesome it was to see the Rockies score
Speaker 2: seven runs in the bottom of the eighth to beat
Speaker 2: your braves yesterday. That was that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: You had to say that twice.
Speaker 2: I still mean, well, I brought it up before we
Speaker 2: started recording, so I wanted to get it, but I
Speaker 2: think we'll let Chicago Farmer take us out. Then good
Speaker 2: to get back and chat. This was episode thirty eight
Speaker 2: of The Prospect B Sides podcast.
Speaker 4: Hey, and we have some fun stuff coming up. I think,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, a little bit of.
Speaker 2: That, you know, yes, thank you, thank you. We're gonna
Speaker 2: have an awesome interview. I don't know when it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna be the next episode,
Speaker 2: next time we record, but I am super pumped. I
Speaker 2: don't know how much how much should I tease Matt?
Speaker 4: I don't know what to Yeah, I mean, you couldn't say,
Speaker 4: like a really big deal college coach is gonna come
Speaker 4: on like hot name, rising star kind of.
Speaker 2: Well you just say it, Well you just did say it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So buddy of mine. Then I've I've cited
Speaker 4: a couple of times on the pod. He got a
Speaker 4: big new job, big promotion. And I just saw him
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago and was talking to talking
Speaker 4: to him about coming on the pod, and he said
Speaker 4: he was down. So I think we're to get it's
Speaker 4: an inside look into the college landscape. Big program, big
Speaker 4: big college seasons coming up, and MAT's ready to geek
Speaker 4: out about some pictures because he's a pitching coach. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: I do like pictures, so that's that's my misfortune.
Speaker 2: Too, I'm super pumped for making that happen. It's just
Speaker 2: a little pipe dream of mine to talk to a
Speaker 2: big time pitching coach and get into some of that,
Speaker 2: So I'm super jazz for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll make it happen. It should be a fun conversation.
Speaker 4: He knows his stuff for sure.
Speaker 2: We'll let Chicago Farmer take us out. Be well. We'll
Speaker 2: talk to you next time later.
Speaker 4: Now riding too is he?
Speaker 1: You have him down first with the limp bone ass face,
Speaker 1: and on the very next pitch he up and stole
Speaker 1: second face.
Speaker 3: With gretest he wasn't born, he had you're the fol