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Speaker 2: to another episode of Deplorable Nation. I'm your host, Deplorable Jana,
Speaker 2: and today I have my beautiful, lovely, intelligent new returning guest,
Speaker 2: mister John Lintenheart from flowsess dot com and mister Edmaybrey
Speaker 2: from Faith Byreason dot net. And we are gonna dive
Speaker 2: into part four in our little series, and today we're
Speaker 2: gonna be talking about brain, bible and electricity, and this
Speaker 2: may come into multiple parts of the show because as
Speaker 2: you all know, I love nerding out on brain stuff.
Speaker 2: So I'm super excited about this show today. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be fangirling while you guys are listening. So, mister John,
Speaker 2: would you like to lead us off today?
Speaker 3: So I I've got a degree in chemistry, and agree
Speaker 3: in chemical engineering, and the chemistry is what kind of
Speaker 3: makes me the more philosophical and theoretical, and the engineering
Speaker 3: is what makes me do applications. And a chemical engineer
Speaker 3: is really known for they call it figuring out what's
Speaker 3: in the black box. You draw a box around the
Speaker 3: situation and you say, here's what's going into it, here's
Speaker 3: what's coming out, and we're trained to try to figure
Speaker 3: out what's going on in there. And I ended up
Speaker 3: doing that with the brain. I ended up trying to
Speaker 3: go what is going on in there? Knowing this comes
Speaker 3: in and this goes out. And what started me on
Speaker 3: this path was I had a project where they had plugins,
Speaker 3: these air fresheners that you plug into the wall and
Speaker 3: they're supposed to work for forty five days, but people
Speaker 3: say they can no longer smell them after twenty one days,
Speaker 3: but they are still working, and I was tasked with
Speaker 3: coming up with the reason why people could no longer
Speaker 3: smell them. And the issue is what's called habituation. So
Speaker 3: there's adaptation and there's habituation. Adaptation is twenty one minutes
Speaker 3: after you walk into a room, you can no longer
Speaker 3: smell a smell in the room. You probably notice that
Speaker 3: you walk in a room there's roses in the room.
Speaker 3: After twenty one minutes, you can't smell anymore. Habituation is
Speaker 3: walking into the same room twenty one days in a row.
Speaker 3: You can no longer smell the room. It's your brain
Speaker 3: that's working against you doing that. So when I figured
Speaker 3: out what the brain was doing, I realized everybody's model
Speaker 3: for the brain was wrong. So what I want to
Speaker 3: talk about today is really how does the brain actually work?
Speaker 3: And I'll start off by saying I have this model
Speaker 3: that I try to explain so that everybody can understand
Speaker 3: it and have a starting point. So you are a
Speaker 3: driver in a car. You are a mind or a soul.
Speaker 3: That's the driver, it's intangible, and the car is your
Speaker 3: brain that's the physical organ. Now, just like in a car,
Speaker 3: you are only in direct control of ten percent of
Speaker 3: the car. The gas pedal is steering, will to break
Speaker 3: winshoe wipers. You the mind soul are only in control
Speaker 3: of ten percent of your brain. That's your conscious brain.
Speaker 3: Ninety percent of that car is where the behavior is,
Speaker 3: that's where all the energy is. Ninety percent of your
Speaker 3: brain is your unconscious brain. That's where all your energy is,
Speaker 3: that's where your behavior is. What people do is they
Speaker 3: think we are a conscious brain, and so everything they
Speaker 3: explain about the brain, they try to say it's like
Speaker 3: a computer and your computer, the conscious brain is based
Speaker 3: off of I mean, the computer is based off your
Speaker 3: conscious brain. Our design of a computer is basically how
Speaker 3: a conscious brain works. Ninety percent of your brains are
Speaker 3: unconscious brain, and that's actually how your brain works. We
Speaker 3: are making people sick because we get them to do
Speaker 3: stuff in the short term through their conscious brain. The
Speaker 3: long term, their unconscious brain wears them out. So that's
Speaker 3: why I want to start is that really your brain
Speaker 3: is ninety percent unconscious, and you're supposed to use the
Speaker 3: conscious to lead the unconscious. You're not supposed to use
Speaker 3: the conscious to get things done. And we've already covered
Speaker 3: intangible drivers. So the intangible drivers is your uniqueness, your mind,
Speaker 3: or your soul. That's what's driving the car.
Speaker 2: So how about you ed, I find hold on a second.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was really fascinating to me when when I
Speaker 4: first learned about this from John and about the origins
Speaker 4: of it. I'm sure you'll get into that, but what
Speaker 4: I find really interesting about the modelism is as John said,
Speaker 4: you know, we only ten percent of our conscious brain.
Speaker 4: You will hear a lot in pop psychology. And you know,
Speaker 4: John gavis background in chemical engineering and my background is
Speaker 4: in psychologists where I have my degree and some postgraduate
Speaker 4: work there as well. So because I was always fascinated
Speaker 4: and yet understanding why we behave the way we do
Speaker 4: and why we think the way we do it, of course,
Speaker 4: so I went through a classical education on psychology and
Speaker 4: as has it turned out, and I'm just the job's model.
Speaker 4: I realized I was just being taught effects. I wasn't
Speaker 4: being taught about what was causing the issue. Psychology is
Speaker 4: all about treating effects. And you know, and that's because
Speaker 4: that's just where it's not because there is any type
Speaker 4: of you know, conspiracy against the truth. I think that's
Speaker 4: just what we're taught. We see an effect. We you know,
Speaker 4: if you look at it from the medical standpoint, if
Speaker 4: you see someone with a broken arm, when you want
Speaker 4: to fix the arm, you don't ask, well, how did
Speaker 4: you how did your arm break? And what can we
Speaker 4: do in the future to make sure you don't break
Speaker 4: your arm again? It's like, no, no, there's a broken arm.
Speaker 4: Let's treat the arm. Then you come back in the
Speaker 4: next day with a few weeks later with with your
Speaker 4: arm broken again.
Speaker 3: They just treat it.
Speaker 4: They won't say, well, you're doing something that keeps causing
Speaker 4: your arm to be broken, why don't we treat that.
Speaker 4: So in pop psychology they will tell us, well, you
Speaker 4: only we only use ten percent of our brain. You
Speaker 4: hear that all the time and no one really questions it.
Speaker 4: Will say, well, guess there's just this hidden part of
Speaker 4: our brain that we need to find out a way
Speaker 4: to use. But as John said, we use one hundred
Speaker 4: percent of our brain. We're only in the conscious control
Speaker 4: of that ten percent.
Speaker 3: And one thing's undesting.
Speaker 4: I know John's going to get more into this with
Speaker 4: how your unconscious mind communicates with you, and so I'm
Speaker 4: going to say what I want to say to that,
Speaker 4: but I would just preface it. I'll plan a seed
Speaker 4: by saying, if you are having an issue where you
Speaker 4: continue to do the same thing over and over again
Speaker 4: and it's not satisfying you and you're not getting the
Speaker 4: results you're looking for and you're getting angry about it,
Speaker 4: you might want to look at the idea of whether
Speaker 4: or not what you're angry about is external or because
Speaker 4: if it's if it's internal, and you keep having external
Speaker 4: fights to try to solve.
Speaker 3: It, you are never ever going to resolve it.
Speaker 4: And again I'm going to come back to that with
Speaker 4: my more Bible focused stuff in a bit, but I
Speaker 4: want to let John continue to explain about the mind
Speaker 4: and brain.
Speaker 2: I want to say, real quick, I'm glad ed that
Speaker 2: you've brought up that point, because coming at things from
Speaker 2: a medical standpoint or even a therapeutic standpoint, a lot
Speaker 2: of times it's the habitual practices and the habitual response
Speaker 2: to certain stimuli, certain situations that they hone in and
Speaker 2: focus in on, but not the root cause of said
Speaker 2: behavior or or said you know, emotional response or whatever
Speaker 2: to a situation. So it's like they're not not addressing
Speaker 2: the underlying issue of why that habitual behavior. Well we're
Speaker 2: numping up repeatedly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, really quick, this goes back to what we
Speaker 4: talked about maybe like two episodes ago.
Speaker 3: Will be wrong on.
Speaker 4: Your show, and I gave you like a little scenario
Speaker 4: about this, and we'll obviously we'll explain this, will expounder
Speaker 4: in it deeper, like when you are attracted to the
Speaker 4: wrong person. You know, you're attracted to someone who is
Speaker 4: abusive physically or verbally, and your unconscious brain. John will
Speaker 4: tell you that your unconscious brain is your friend, it's
Speaker 4: your ally. It is trying to do the patterns that
Speaker 4: you set for it. As John said, your conscious brain
Speaker 4: should drive your unconscious but we have it reverse.
Speaker 3: So we're talking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about this during a bully session, like
Speaker 4: why you know, ladies women seem to team to be
Speaker 4: attracted to the bully because well, the bully growing up
Speaker 4: is the tough guy. Generally, he's gonna be one of
Speaker 4: feel safe. So you go out with the bully because
Speaker 4: he satisfies this this you know, this primal need to
Speaker 4: feel safe. But he's still a bully, and your unconscious says, okay,
Speaker 4: that's what you like. And then you your your friends
Speaker 4: and family they tell you, you know this guy's wrong for you,
Speaker 4: and what do you say?
Speaker 3: You just don't know him.
Speaker 4: Like I do, and that's oh, you really like this.
Speaker 4: You're defending it. Okay, From now on, every time I
Speaker 4: see a person with these characteristics, I'm going to attract
Speaker 4: you towards them using the communication aspect that your unconscious
Speaker 4: uses that general talk more about it's going to give
Speaker 4: you energy and stimulate you towards that guy, and then
Speaker 4: you ask yourself, why am I always attracted to the
Speaker 4: same kind of guy? Why I'm I always attracted to
Speaker 4: these abusers or whatever? Because your unconscious brain is just
Speaker 4: doing what you told it to do.
Speaker 2: And good point in that, because I talk about this
Speaker 2: a lot. For people who are dating trying to find,
Speaker 2: you know, their their soulmate or whatever, and they're so
Speaker 2: limited in their vision of what it is that they
Speaker 2: truly want that it's like, well, he has to be, uh,
Speaker 2: six foot five, and he has to have dark features,
Speaker 2: and he has to have whatever. But it's like shallow characteristics.
Speaker 2: It's never like people never respond with you know, intelligence,
Speaker 2: moral character things like that deep stuff. It's always very
Speaker 2: surface level.
Speaker 4: But drunk conscious sees everything, so they don't just you're unconscious.
Speaker 4: Isn't just going to see six foot five and this
Speaker 4: skin or our skin tone or whatever. It's also going
Speaker 4: to say, well, yeah, that's right. You also like someone
Speaker 4: who treats you this way as this level of intelligence
Speaker 4: or lack of mentaligence. So even if you aren't saying
Speaker 4: it consciously, you're unconscious sees all of it, and it's
Speaker 4: going to track you towards what you what the pattern
Speaker 4: that that you've been following in your dating life.
Speaker 2: All right, mister John, let's get into it.
Speaker 3: Wow, we could go way off track here out of
Speaker 3: philosophical conversation just with you, you just said. But I'm
Speaker 3: going to try to keep it in, Okay. So one
Speaker 3: of the things I just want to get off my
Speaker 3: chest before I just want to start taking questions from you, Janet.
Speaker 3: So I know what direction to go, but I want
Speaker 3: to get to sort off off my chest because I
Speaker 3: watch a lot of podcasts listening to a lot of
Speaker 3: podcasts of people talking about neuroscience. And here's the way
Speaker 3: I would explain neuroscience. So if you imagine four brand
Speaker 3: new corvettes or brand new twenty twenty five corvettes, a
Speaker 3: neuroscientist is a person who looks at those brand new
Speaker 3: corvettes and can explain everything about those brand new corvettes
Speaker 3: and why they're just perfect the way they are. Right.
Speaker 3: The thing is is each of those corvettes is going
Speaker 3: to go to four different owners, and after they each
Speaker 3: drive their corvette seventy thousand miles, those four corvettes aren't
Speaker 3: going to be.
Speaker 2: The same, right, not at all, nor their perception of it.
Speaker 3: Well, look, the neuroscientist is going to try to tell
Speaker 3: you how the corvette ought to be, not going to
Speaker 3: be able to tell you anything about who would drive
Speaker 3: in this corvette, not going to be able to tell
Speaker 3: you if they're driving it right for what their use.
Speaker 3: Is not going to be able to tell you how
Speaker 3: to help them drive it better for their use. There's
Speaker 3: no uniqueness, there's no driver. When a neuroscientist talks, they're
Speaker 3: talking about a brain without a mind or a soul,
Speaker 3: because the minute you have a minder a soul, that
Speaker 3: brain's going to get driven differently. And to do my
Speaker 3: little rant here, so I'm attracted to this person, why
Speaker 3: for their external features? Then what's the difference between me
Speaker 3: having sex with two women who have the same external
Speaker 3: features to my unconscious brain? Nothing right, the two people
Speaker 3: the way they think their abilities. Well, there's still really
Speaker 3: no difference there. But aren't we really bonding to us soul?
Speaker 3: Aren't we really bonding to that intangible person inside there,
Speaker 3: the driver of that vehicle, Because that's what brings the
Speaker 3: greatest fulfillment, and that's where I think the real danger
Speaker 3: with psychology and neuroscience is is that they are looking
Speaker 3: at a car without a driver, and they're keeping us
Speaker 3: at a very superficial and unfulfilling level, when in reality
Speaker 3: we are with another soul. That's really where the connection happens,
Speaker 3: and that's really where your unconscious brain kind of rewards you.
Speaker 3: Because if you're just being with this person because of
Speaker 3: how they think or what they look like, you're unconscious
Speaker 3: will start looking for other people like that. But if
Speaker 3: you're attracted this person for who they are and you
Speaker 3: understand who they are, you're unconscious will drive you and
Speaker 3: juice you, energize you to that. So Ed talked about
Speaker 3: the difference your conscious brain works in words and in emotion.
Speaker 3: An emotion is a feeling that you know the cause
Speaker 3: for I'm happy. Why are you happy? You know that.
Speaker 3: You don't go, I'm happy. I don't know why, No,
Speaker 3: you're happy. Your unconscious works through feelings. Your unconscious cannot
Speaker 3: communicate words to you, so it uses feelings. There's like
Speaker 3: thirty six feelings, and that's where you're like, I'm anxious
Speaker 3: why I don't know?
Speaker 2: And that's the response everyone always has.
Speaker 3: And so that's it. There's nine times more feelings than
Speaker 3: there are emotions. There's happy, sad, mad, fear. Those are
Speaker 3: the four emotions. There's thirty six feelings. And so when
Speaker 3: you try to learn your unconscious, your unconscious is always
Speaker 3: trying to communicate to you through feelings. People call it somatic.
Speaker 3: And one of the things I do is the way
Speaker 3: your unconscious talks to you, Janet is different than mine.
Speaker 3: So my unconscious might give me cause my eye to
Speaker 3: twitch when it's trying to tell me something, versus it
Speaker 3: might cause you to feel a tightness in your shoulder.
Speaker 3: When you learn how your unconscious is talking to you,
Speaker 3: you get more in sync with it, and then you
Speaker 3: start being ahead of everybody in what's going on. Some
Speaker 3: people call it intuitive, but it's really more than that.
Speaker 3: And so that's what we're doing, is your conscious works
Speaker 3: one way, your unconscious works the other. You're unconscious actually
Speaker 3: more powerful and sees things way ahead of you, way
Speaker 3: ahead of you than you do consciously. And so whatever
Speaker 3: we're doing, like Ed said, we're telling our unconscious what
Speaker 3: we want to be energized towards or drained. Ultimately, your
Speaker 3: unconscious has two ways to motivate you, it gives you
Speaker 3: energy or it takes your energy away. And that's really
Speaker 3: what everybody When anybody complains about their energy, that's an
Speaker 3: unconscious issue. That's not a conscious issue.
Speaker 2: See, and what you said is perfect, and it made
Speaker 2: me immediately think about the downfalls that we have in
Speaker 2: our society towards therapy or counseling things of that nature,
Speaker 2: because not understanding who somebody is, what their communication style is,
Speaker 2: and things of that nature. They use like this giant umbrella,
Speaker 2: and you know, like one size fits all should should
Speaker 2: cure everyone and work for everyone. And I can't understand
Speaker 2: why all of our therapy sessions you're not getting better.
Speaker 2: It's because they don't know how to communicate with you
Speaker 2: on a human being level, with.
Speaker 3: Your according to your uniqueness. Absolutely they're not reaching it
Speaker 3: past everything to your mind and soul, your uniqueness. And
Speaker 3: then you know again, if you got in a corvette
Speaker 3: and drove through the parking lot and ED watched you,
Speaker 3: and then I got in a corvette, drove through the
Speaker 3: parking lot and ED watched same corvette, But I bet
Speaker 3: you I would go those were two different drivers. Same
Speaker 3: thing with people, as I watch people and I'm looking
Speaker 3: past them to the dry for exactly. Counseling just says,
Speaker 3: look at you, I don't care who the driver of
Speaker 3: your car is, this is what here's the steps you
Speaker 3: need to do because they are doing everything consciously. Whenever
Speaker 3: somebody talks to me about an approach, it usually takes
Speaker 3: me three or less questions to show them they really
Speaker 3: think that the issue is conscious, and they really think
Speaker 3: the approach is conscious, and that's why they can't seem
Speaker 3: to help people Walt term.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it also lends itself to the
Speaker 2: fact that therapy as a whole basically deals with the shell,
Speaker 2: the outer shell of stuff. So again it's like dating
Speaker 2: gets the surface level, you know, the way things look
Speaker 2: or the way things should look, without checking under the
Speaker 2: hood of that.
Speaker 3: Right right.
Speaker 4: I can tell you someone who again was being formally
Speaker 4: trained to be a clinical psychologist, that we are taught
Speaker 4: I was being taught to immediately put someone into a category.
Speaker 3: It is mostly.
Speaker 4: Believe, but there was no malicious and ten behind it. It
Speaker 4: was really about expediency because one of the things you
Speaker 4: learn if you're a counselor, you have fifty minutes and
Speaker 4: you and if someone has insurance, then you may have
Speaker 4: X number of sessions, ten or maybe a few more,
Speaker 4: depending on your level of insurance. So you've got to
Speaker 4: So the idea is they want to get to the
Speaker 4: root cause as quickly as possible, to help that person
Speaker 4: as quickly as possible before they run out of money
Speaker 4: or run out of sessions. So we're told to put
Speaker 4: them into categories. And as you just said, jet labels
Speaker 4: you're a schizophrenic, you're depressed, you are bipolar. So if
Speaker 4: I talk to you for about here's all how i'd
Speaker 4: be thinking. As your psychologist. I'm talking to you fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: She's bipolar. And as you're talking, all I'm thinking is, okay,
Speaker 4: she fits into this bipolar box. That means that all
Speaker 4: of these other things that I've associated with bipolar, she
Speaker 4: has them. So now I know how to treat her.
Speaker 4: So now the next ten sessions are going to be
Speaker 4: about treating her bipolar. The problem is, I'm not looking
Speaker 4: at her unique cause, like John just said, bipolar, maybe
Speaker 4: maybe the car the core bet she's driving. You're driving
Speaker 4: the bipolar car, and I'm just going to treat her
Speaker 4: like everyone else who drives the bipolar car. But she's unique,
Speaker 4: which is why with you know, with flow SSS and
Speaker 4: with what the white psychology should be, and I know there's
Speaker 4: there are lots of psychologists that John's working with. The
Speaker 4: first step is finding the person's uniqueness. Once you know
Speaker 4: who the person is uniquely, then you can actually get
Speaker 4: to the dissolve level of the problem because now you
Speaker 4: know how to communicate with them, how they're conscious and
Speaker 4: their eye conscious works. But so basically psychology has it backwards.
Speaker 4: You put people in a category. No, you take the
Speaker 4: people first, then you point, then you find out, you
Speaker 4: find out what category and why they are in that
Speaker 4: category and their unique way of the unique way they
Speaker 4: got to that category, and then you treat it that way.
Speaker 3: Now, the thing is is that you want to understand
Speaker 3: the uniqueness so you know how to communicate with them
Speaker 3: in a way that energizes them rather than pushes them
Speaker 3: away because you are trying to get the right information.
Speaker 3: I was this problem solver working as a chemical engineer
Speaker 3: and solving these chemical and mechanical and manufacturing problems. And
Speaker 3: I solved a million and one problem. I saw the
Speaker 3: there were seven million products sold in seven of malfunction.
Speaker 3: And I have a process for doing that and then
Speaker 3: I became a vice president of this company where now
Speaker 3: I'm not managing technical problems, I'm managing people and those
Speaker 3: same right, right. And the thing is is that what
Speaker 3: I realized is my approach to solving people problem problems
Speaker 3: was the same approach as psychology. Psychology is trying to
Speaker 3: solve a problem, like we're all equipment. And then when
Speaker 3: I started learning all this other information and then looking
Speaker 3: at the Bible, I saw what Ed said and I said,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, there's a uniqueness and you reached that
Speaker 3: because that's a part of the individual. And now all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, I was creating this team, I was
Speaker 3: creating this community. And then everything took off. And so
Speaker 3: I realized, when you solve a problem that doesn't involve people,
Speaker 3: you can use these problems solving techniques when you get
Speaker 3: to people, if you solve a problem, you actually make
Speaker 3: it worse. You have to dissolve the problem. So that's
Speaker 3: where I learned all of that that really what we're
Speaker 3: talking about, you can't solve it. And so there's a
Speaker 3: passage in the Bible and Tessalonians that says, basically it
Speaker 3: talks about us having a mind. I say slash soul.
Speaker 3: Mind soul, that's uniqueness, a body that includes your brain
Speaker 3: and a spirit. So a person actually has three parts.
Speaker 3: If you think of what a person is, there's a
Speaker 3: system consisting of three parts. Mind soul, that's your uniqueness.
Speaker 3: If you're looking towards in the Bible, when God is
Speaker 3: looking at earth, he's a mind. When he's looking in
Speaker 3: the spiritual realm, he's a soul. When we are looking
Speaker 3: at the spiritual realm, we're a soul when we look
Speaker 3: at the physical realm where in mind. So mind soul
Speaker 3: is the same word actually in the Bible. And then
Speaker 3: body is everything tangible that includes your brain and the spirit.
Speaker 3: So if you notice this, the big revelation is, according
Speaker 3: to the Bible, we humans are the bridge between the
Speaker 3: spiritual realm and the physical realm. God wants to create
Speaker 3: this kingdom that's spiritual and physical, and we are spiritual
Speaker 3: and physical. So we are a mind's soul, which can
Speaker 3: be physical or spiritual. Look at this. If I'm going
Speaker 3: to deal with the physical world, I go into my brain,
Speaker 3: which is physical, and control my body. If I want
Speaker 3: to deal with God, the Holy Spirit comes through my
Speaker 3: spirit into my head, into my brain, I go into
Speaker 3: my brain to deal with the Holy Spirit through my spirit.
Speaker 3: So everything you do is in your brain, and from
Speaker 3: your brain you can meet the spiritual or you can
Speaker 3: meet the physical. So that's really what that's why the
Speaker 3: brain is so important. And in the Bible, the Tabernacle
Speaker 3: was a physical representation of your brain. God actually drew
Speaker 3: a diagram how the brain works, and it's the Tabernacle.
Speaker 3: And when I understood that, I was able to solve
Speaker 3: these issues with smell and how our brain really works.
Speaker 3: Because God literally drew a diagram of our brain works.
Speaker 2: I think that's beautiful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because when we get in so John
Speaker 4: gave me a perfect softball for what Eden actually is
Speaker 4: and what our eternity is going to be in the
Speaker 4: New Jerusalem, which is really every turn to that Edenic state,
Speaker 4: and we see that that Eden was, Well, you have
Speaker 4: you have to take some from Genesism and some from Ezekiel,
Speaker 4: where Ezekiel talks about, you know, the fall of the
Speaker 4: energy we called Satan. But what he says is that
Speaker 4: you were an eaton. Talk to the smallen entity. You
Speaker 4: were in Eden, the garden of God on my holy mountain.
Speaker 4: So in mountains spiritually speaking, are areas of spiritual authority.
Speaker 4: They're where the spirit the spiritual realm congregate. So Eden
Speaker 4: was a garden on top of a mountain.
Speaker 3: It wasn't in a.
Speaker 4: Valley, despite what some folks trying when they try to
Speaker 4: use the earthly current, earthly type topography to place it
Speaker 4: somewhere in Mesopotamia. It was actually on a mountain. Why
Speaker 4: why was that important? Because Eden is where God dwelt
Speaker 4: and where his and where his his you know, the
Speaker 4: spiritual realm met the physical realm. And as John said,
Speaker 4: we human beings in the first humans, Adam and Eve,
Speaker 4: they were in that garden. They were then nexus between
Speaker 4: the two realms. And so were we as entities of
Speaker 4: physical and spiritual. We have both of those qualities. We
Speaker 4: have it, both of those realms. And what was God's command? Basically,
Speaker 4: he told them to make the world like Eden?
Speaker 3: Again? What was Eton?
Speaker 4: Eden was the nexus between the spiritual and physical realms?
Speaker 4: How were they told to do that? By being fruit
Speaker 4: from multiplying, having children?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: How having children and spreading around the world make the
Speaker 4: world like Eden? Well again, Eden is a nexus between
Speaker 4: the spiritual and physical realms. Human beings are a nexus
Speaker 4: between the spiritual and physical realms, because, as John just explained,
Speaker 4: we access both. So the more people there in the world,
Speaker 4: the more the world is like Eden, because we would
Speaker 4: all be a part of those council meetings that that God,
Speaker 4: that Jehovah would have on his holy Mountain, with with
Speaker 4: the with the angels, the eloheim who were a part
Speaker 4: of his council. So we'd be able to counsel with
Speaker 4: God and tabernacle with God anywhere we want, anywhere that
Speaker 4: we were. And of course we lost that with with
Speaker 4: original sin, but we were able to regain it through Christ.
Speaker 4: So when when when you're saved, when you become a Christian,
Speaker 4: when you accept Jesus, then jesus whole purpose was to
Speaker 4: bridge the gap, to return our ability to fellowship directly
Speaker 4: with God, not to a priest, not through a tabernacle,
Speaker 4: but directly, So we have Eden in us. We have
Speaker 4: the ability, which unfortunately most of us don't use, but
Speaker 4: that ability we have it. We can have a council
Speaker 4: meeting with God now directly. We don't have to go
Speaker 4: through any other means. We can do it now, and
Speaker 4: we can make Eden on earth if we understand, if
Speaker 4: we understood that if we understood that ability, then we
Speaker 4: would we could make Eden earth. But we're not doing
Speaker 4: the great doubt of it. And that's what I do.
Speaker 4: We haven't talke about this you. I'm sure we'll talk
Speaker 4: about the at the end. But that's one of the
Speaker 4: things that I'm doing on faith by reason where I
Speaker 4: have I have a Bible study we call the do
Speaker 4: Jehovah Story Book Club where we go through the entire
Speaker 4: Bible in one year at once, one meeting a month,
Speaker 4: where we look at the entire Bible from the spiritual standpoint,
Speaker 4: and the purpose of that is to understand how we
Speaker 4: relate to God directly and how what He wants from us,
Speaker 4: and how we can increase our walk our council with Him.
Speaker 4: And what that's going to do is bringing it back
Speaker 4: to what we're talking about, it's going to make your
Speaker 4: mind healthier because the more you commune with with the
Speaker 4: you know, the one who gave you the spirit, the
Speaker 4: healthier your mind is going to be. And so that's
Speaker 4: one of the outcomes. Not only are you going to
Speaker 4: have a better relationship, a better fellowship with God, You're
Speaker 4: going to have a healthier thought process.
Speaker 3: So let me let me try to connect all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Because that's so what Ed is doing is Ed has
Speaker 3: this Bible study in a sense, but really he's taken
Speaker 3: the Bible and put it in chronological orders so you
Speaker 3: can read it like a story. And when you read
Speaker 3: the Bible in chronological order like a story, it's very simple.
Speaker 3: I had read the Bible cover to cover like forty times,
Speaker 3: and I still couldn't tell you the story. I get
Speaker 3: all confused, and I started reading the Bible straightforward, you know,
Speaker 3: as a story, and it just took like one time.
Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden, I know, oh where
Speaker 3: everything is, because everything is supposed to be in a story.
Speaker 3: So if you look at the story of Eden, Eden
Speaker 3: was this place that God had council meetings and Adam
Speaker 3: was on that council, and in fact, it talks about
Speaker 3: that in Joe. Then when the tabernacle was created, if
Speaker 3: you look at it, God recreated Eden with the tabernacle,
Speaker 3: there's two cherubim there and it's and if you look
Speaker 3: at the way, and I told you the tabernacle is
Speaker 3: our brain. It symbolizes our brain. But if you actually
Speaker 3: look at it, that when you walk through the first
Speaker 3: door of the tabernacle, it's Eden, it's the Garden of Eden.
Speaker 3: There's this, there's this bread, there's this incense, there's this.
Speaker 3: The Tree of Life is represented there with the candles,
Speaker 3: and then you go through this veil to hear from God,
Speaker 3: which is really what you're supposed to be doing. Paul
Speaker 3: said that Holy of Holies, that tabernacle is now in
Speaker 3: our brain as Christians. So Paul's the one. So the
Speaker 3: tabernacle was a recreation of Eden, and Paul's the one
Speaker 3: who said that gratreation of Eden is in our brain.
Speaker 3: So where's where's eating? Every's looking for Eden? Eden's right here.
Speaker 3: And so that's why this is so powerful to understand
Speaker 3: how your brain actually works. The Bible is very clear
Speaker 3: about how it works. It works differently than what everybody
Speaker 3: is saying because they work from affects the cause. But
Speaker 3: if you actually understand the cause of it and work forward,
Speaker 3: you got it. So are there any like specific questions
Speaker 3: you like the areas you like to talk about, Jannet,
Speaker 3: because I love talking about.
Speaker 2: The you know what's interesting about that and about the tabernacle. Right,
Speaker 2: It's like the two hemispheres of the brain. Right, and
Speaker 2: then you have all the cranial nerves. So you've got
Speaker 2: out the visual and the smelling and the hearing and
Speaker 2: all of that stuff. You know, that is our brain
Speaker 2: that makes things the way that we can process them
Speaker 2: or see them. I want to add, because the brain
Speaker 2: is actually sixty percent fat, right, So, and this is
Speaker 2: like a tiny tad off topic, but not really because
Speaker 2: everything we've been told, like about cholesterol is false because
Speaker 2: since the brain is made up of fat, you have
Speaker 2: to have cholesterol to protect the brain. And so over
Speaker 2: my lifetime, like they have changed the normal numbers for
Speaker 2: cholesterol levels and it keeps getting lower and lower, and
Speaker 2: people keep getting sicker and sicker and more susceptible to
Speaker 2: not only things of the brain like Alzheimer's, dementia, confusion,
Speaker 2: things like that their body in general starts to break down,
Speaker 2: which means that your connection to God starts to break
Speaker 2: down because you're not protecting what He built inside of
Speaker 2: you in the first place.
Speaker 3: So, ed, I want to set you up with the
Speaker 3: electricity stuff. Okay, So here's I love what you just said.
Speaker 3: That is so dead on. So the thing is mental, emotional, spiritual, physical.
Speaker 3: We're all four, So we are all four of those
Speaker 3: so we got to remember that you want to balance
Speaker 3: all four and so we could talk about the mental
Speaker 3: and emotional and the spiritual. But there is a physical component,
Speaker 3: because I just told you we meet the Holy Spirit
Speaker 3: in our physical brain. And then the tabernacle. That first door,
Speaker 3: you know, if you think about it, outside was the
Speaker 3: labor with the water and you put your hand in
Speaker 3: the water. Touch. Touch occurs outside the brain. It's physical
Speaker 3: when you go through that first door, just like you said,
Speaker 3: you basically there's food, taste, there's smell, and their sight
Speaker 3: the light, and you're in the conscious brain. You do
Speaker 3: not see with your eyes. You see with your brain.
Speaker 3: Your eye is not everything you can see around you.
Speaker 3: Your eye is not taking in. Your eye is taking
Speaker 3: in like looking at the end of a periscope, and
Speaker 3: your brain fills everything else in, so you are not
Speaker 3: seeing with your eyes. And then to go through. So
Speaker 3: when you go through that last veil, that's where you
Speaker 3: hear from God. That's the connection with your spirit. So
Speaker 3: if you think about it, it's representing you. The person
Speaker 3: walking in is the mind's soul. They walk into the
Speaker 3: conscious brain where you do these things, and then they
Speaker 3: walk into their spirit. In a sense, to meet God,
Speaker 3: to hear from God. So that's the hearing step, is there.
Speaker 3: So if you think about it, that's what's happening. Now. Physically,
Speaker 3: what's happening is your brain and your spine serve as
Speaker 3: life like an antenna. And what they're finding out is
Speaker 3: that people, if they have like more serotonin receptors, they're
Speaker 3: more likely to pass kind of through that spiritual realm.
Speaker 3: And the thing is is everybody's got this program running
Speaker 3: in their brain that's in contact with the spiritual realm,
Speaker 3: but we're so conscious physically we don't see it. And
Speaker 3: then that's where people will take a psychedelic. What a
Speaker 3: psychedelic does is it weakens your conscious brain. So now
Speaker 3: your mind's soul is only operating with that program that's
Speaker 3: seeing in the spiritual realm. So the thing is is
Speaker 3: how can you have that without having to take some
Speaker 3: sort of drug to weaken it. Well, foods, certain foods
Speaker 3: erode your brain and it kind of corrodes your antenna.
Speaker 3: So that's where fasting. A lot of what Jesus was
Speaker 3: doing was fasting. Fasting is going to cleanse that and
Speaker 3: get corrosion off of that, which again is all electricity,
Speaker 3: which is where d's going here. This is all electricity.
Speaker 3: You know, we have electricity running through our brain before
Speaker 3: we discover electricity.
Speaker 2: And it's like the corrosion that you get like on
Speaker 2: a car battery, right, And it's the same thing because
Speaker 2: if you look at it as our brain is this
Speaker 2: big computer processing unit or whatever. If any of those
Speaker 2: things get you know, corrosion on them or wire breaks
Speaker 2: or something like that, that's when you have a breakdown
Speaker 2: of that system.
Speaker 3: All right. The other so the thing is is you
Speaker 3: want to you want to make sure you're getting that
Speaker 3: stuff off you. That's that's where you'd fast. You want
Speaker 3: to make sure you're eating the right foods so that
Speaker 3: doesn't corrode that. And then what you're talking about cholesterol
Speaker 3: and everything, it's like, yeah, that's weakening the brain to
Speaker 3: do and it's bit so there's there are all these
Speaker 3: physical things that do affect your spirituality and your ability
Speaker 3: to literally connect. But again it's all electricity, right.
Speaker 4: So yes, as you were saying, so sticking with the
Speaker 4: physical realm, the physical aspect of it. Yeah, so's I'm
Speaker 4: going to talk about both the physical aspect and then
Speaker 4: a little more on the spiritual side and how that
Speaker 4: can be a corrodedon in a sense and something that
Speaker 4: I think it has been happening over time. So and
Speaker 4: this also gets into why you know, not to get
Speaker 4: too conspiratorial, but well why not exactly then that that
Speaker 4: it people out there who who have do not have
Speaker 4: our best interests at heart. Call them whoever you want,
Speaker 4: the big leaders, elites at the top. They benefit from
Speaker 4: us having poor thought processes. Correct, the better our thought
Speaker 4: process the more the more unmanageable we are, the less
Speaker 4: we're going to know our uniqueness and the purpose Okay,
Speaker 4: taking a big step back, the purpose of human government
Speaker 4: in general is basically to squash our uniqueness.
Speaker 3: That's what.
Speaker 4: Remember that that that God never established a human government,
Speaker 4: and there was no human government until Babel in Genesis.
Speaker 4: Before that, God never said, hey, you know you need
Speaker 4: to have this leader over you and these people these
Speaker 4: different hierarchies. It was like, no, you be an individual,
Speaker 4: you be unique, and you bring your uniqueness and your
Speaker 4: values to others and you exchange value, and that's what's
Speaker 4: going to be like for eternity. But then human beings
Speaker 4: come along and they say, well, you know what, I
Speaker 4: like my uniqueness. But in order for me to be
Speaker 4: better and be greater than you, I have to bring
Speaker 4: you down. In order for me to be on the top,
Speaker 4: there have underneath me. And that's where government comes in.
Speaker 4: And because if everyone is great, that everyone's equal. If
Speaker 4: I want to be greater, the only way for me
Speaker 4: to be greater than you is for you to be
Speaker 4: less unique. How do I do that? By force? And
Speaker 4: that's what governments are. They homogenize us through something to
Speaker 4: what we call laws to make everyone behave the same.
Speaker 4: We saw that in the Babel incident where said everyone
Speaker 4: was of one mind, of one thought, and one purpose.
Speaker 4: And that purpose was not their purpose. It was a
Speaker 4: purpose of the person Nimrod who was who was open
Speaker 4: them at the time. So that's the whole purpose. And
Speaker 4: so the best way to to tamp down uniqueness is
Speaker 4: to work on the thought process. And that's why we
Speaker 4: have That's some of the reasons why we have intentionally
Speaker 4: uh distributed bad food in our in our in our environment,
Speaker 4: why we have certain types of drugs that that stunt
Speaker 4: our our our mind. We've told to take if you
Speaker 4: have an issue, take a drug, if your kid is hyperactive,
Speaker 4: well instead of just getting instead of working with the
Speaker 4: kids is to find out what's happening. Let's just give
Speaker 4: them a drug that will you know, that will affect
Speaker 4: their brain.
Speaker 3: So that's where things come from.
Speaker 2: Which affects the and for people this is a little
Speaker 2: basic history, but things medications, especially for any kind of
Speaker 2: quote mental health right or behavior disorder, they are meant
Speaker 2: to cross the blood blood brain barrier and mess up
Speaker 2: your uh, brain chemistry and how you're neurons and synapses fire,
Speaker 2: what chemicals or physical reaction is made. It changes that,
Speaker 2: and so your thought process changes, your behavior changes, so
Speaker 2: you are no longer the uniqueness that God made. You
Speaker 2: are literally a controlled piece of machinery.
Speaker 3: That's when you are so ed. Let me let me
Speaker 3: jump into them. I'll bring that back. This is a
Speaker 3: great point. So the thing is is all of those
Speaker 3: chemicals are really meant to slow down your thought process. Yes,
Speaker 3: So if I love working with people who have been
Speaker 3: on antidepressants or any anxiety because the first thing I
Speaker 3: know about them is they have a very quick thought process.
Speaker 3: Not all of us do. But if you don't have
Speaker 3: a quick thought process, you're probably not going to get
Speaker 3: on medication because you can't think fast enough to crash
Speaker 3: into a wall. So the people. So rather than look
Speaker 3: at people like, oh, they're on medication, they're weak, I
Speaker 3: look at it as well. They're on medication, they had
Speaker 3: a strong brain and they have to take something to
Speaker 3: slow down the electricity and the connections, you know, in
Speaker 3: order to do that. The issue is is there's never
Speaker 3: a process. There's a process to get on the medication.
Speaker 3: Look at all the directions, there's no process for getting
Speaker 3: off of them.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 3: I say, I'm not against those medications from the standpoint
Speaker 3: that I think sometimes people's brain need to be slowed
Speaker 3: down so they can focus and get real help with
Speaker 3: the counseling and everything and get rid of the contradictions,
Speaker 3: and then they get off of that. So I understand that.
Speaker 3: But you're right, Jennet, the whole point of that is
Speaker 3: to disrupt the electricity in the brain so that you're
Speaker 3: not thinking as fast and getting much trouble. All they
Speaker 3: can really do is disrupt your brain's ability to think,
Speaker 3: which is all the electricity, and that's it.
Speaker 4: And John is all about that, working this for as
Speaker 4: long as he as he did. You want, you want
Speaker 4: all the kids to behave they have to all be
Speaker 4: the same, right, It's interesting because when I served you,
Speaker 4: maybe over ten years ago, to have some trouble sleeping,
Speaker 4: and I went to my doctor and I said, look, I'm
Speaker 4: having trouble sleeping. Can you give me something help? He said, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you this drug called Trasidon. I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: what is it? He said, well, it's an antidepressant. Like, well,
Speaker 4: I'm not depressed. Why are you giving me this antidepressant drugs?
Speaker 4: And well it'll it'll slow your brain now so that
Speaker 4: you can actually sleep better. And I just thought, wait
Speaker 4: a minute, So you're taking people who were actually depressed,
Speaker 4: were already like you know, down, and you're slowing them
Speaker 4: down even more than.
Speaker 3: I found that real.
Speaker 2: You know. You know what's funny about like people's brain
Speaker 2: like firing like crazy. Like during the day. I can
Speaker 2: be normal as I'll get out and I'll go lay
Speaker 2: down and bed at night and all start praying or whatever,
Speaker 2: and all of these it's like it's like a motion
Speaker 2: vomit right comes up, like all of these thoughts and stuff,
Speaker 2: and it's just like literally scattered thoughts like all over
Speaker 2: the place while I'm trying to pray, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: now sorry, God, that got interrupted again. Let me put
Speaker 2: this to the side. It's like that is my time
Speaker 2: of the day when things are sped up and like
Speaker 2: they go crazy. And I think it's because I kind
Speaker 2: of go through like a prayer scroll at night and
Speaker 2: try to think of everybody that needs prayer and stuff,
Speaker 2: and all of these extra thoughts are just flooding into
Speaker 2: my head. Doesn't mean I'm crazy, right, It's just because
Speaker 2: during the day, like I'm so busy focusing on doing
Speaker 2: other things that that's the time for my brain to
Speaker 2: like release all of this.
Speaker 4: I know John is chopping at the bit to because
Speaker 4: there's some that he especially as as a woman, as
Speaker 4: a female, there's there I don't and I'm gonna le John,
Speaker 4: w let you run with that, but let me finish
Speaker 4: the thought before before I lose about the electricity. But
Speaker 4: John has a great solution to help you, all of us,
Speaker 4: but especially women with with their with their faster brains.
Speaker 4: He has a way to do that, and I think
Speaker 4: it would be really helpful to everyone listening, females and
Speaker 4: females and the men who want to help them. But
Speaker 4: just so just putting a squaring the circle on this
Speaker 4: whole thing, about the electricity in our brains. So you
Speaker 4: know we have these our brains, We have the dendrites
Speaker 4: and the axioms that that were you know, the our
Speaker 4: neural cells and those if you've seen them, they don't
Speaker 4: touch each other when we're communicating. You know, we have these.
Speaker 4: You know they look like trees. You know you have
Speaker 4: the them. My arm was was was was a dendrite.
Speaker 4: There'd be a long area here, then at the top
Speaker 4: there be these branches and when they're communicating with each other,
Speaker 4: when a thought goes through your head, they don't touch.
Speaker 4: Little sparkan electricity goes between the two. And every time
Speaker 4: you have a thought, that's your synapse is firing.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: That's electricity. Electricity is a form of light. Of light
Speaker 4: is electromagnetism, that's and so that's what's happening in your mind.
Speaker 4: So obviously, the faster your mind, the faster those that
Speaker 4: those electric sparks are going between you know, your neural cells.
Speaker 4: And one thing that I discovered, and I've done a
Speaker 4: few podcasts on this, which I really fascinating, is that
Speaker 4: and I'll be quick with this, It's all about the
Speaker 4: speed of light. Because the speed of light dictates, I
Speaker 4: mean everything, all of our physics, our modern physics is
Speaker 4: based on the speed.
Speaker 3: Of light being a constant.
Speaker 4: You know, before the sixteen hundreds, the idea with that
Speaker 4: the speed of light is instantaneous. It just you know,
Speaker 4: light appears and there you can't measure it. If something
Speaker 4: is instantaneous, if it's infinite, then you can't measure infinity.
Speaker 3: But then a.
Speaker 4: Scientist by that an astronomer by the name of ole
Speaker 4: a Roamer, he observing the moons of Jupiter fat discovered
Speaker 4: that the speed of light is not infinite, that it
Speaker 4: is exactly it has a discrete speed one hundred and
Speaker 4: eighty six thousand miles per second roughly. And now that
Speaker 4: you have a concrete measurement for light, now you can
Speaker 4: do predictive modeling on it.
Speaker 3: You know, equals e equals mc.
Speaker 4: Square, the famous equation where see is the speed of light.
Speaker 4: And it became the basis of all of our modern physics.
Speaker 4: You know, Plank and Nil's a Max Plank, Neil's Bower, Heisenberg, Einstein,
Speaker 4: all of these great physicists were able to make the discoveries.
Speaker 4: They may by this through the speed of light and
Speaker 4: the speed of light being a constant. All of our
Speaker 4: physics is based on it being measurable and constant. Fast
Speaker 4: forward to nineteen eighty eight to Australian sciences, Trevor Norman
Speaker 4: and Barry Centerfield actually discovered that the speed of light
Speaker 4: is not constant, that it's actually slowing down a very
Speaker 4: small amouth, very minute. But it's happening discreetly, in other words,
Speaker 4: in very measurable in discrete measurements, and it happens a
Speaker 4: logarithmically or exponentially as you go, as you go more
Speaker 4: for in time, So the further forward or back you
Speaker 4: go in time, the more dramatic that the degradation or
Speaker 4: the speed of the light is. Meaning that you know,
Speaker 4: next year the speed of light is going to be
Speaker 4: a little bit slower than it was this year. Again,
Speaker 4: nothing that would affect your day to day life is
Speaker 4: because it's so minute. But what it also means is
Speaker 4: that last year the speed of light was minutely faster.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't notice it even one hundred years ago, your grandparents
Speaker 4: wouldn't have said, hey, you know, the speed of light
Speaker 4: was way faster, But when I was a kid, no.
Speaker 4: But once you start going back thousands of hundreds and
Speaker 4: thousands of years if the curve becomes much more dramatic.
Speaker 4: And some scientists have estimated that two thousand years ago,
Speaker 4: during the time of Jesus, the speed of light would
Speaker 4: have been about one hundred times faster than it is today.
Speaker 3: And if you go.
Speaker 4: Back to say about eight thousand years, which will be
Speaker 4: considered ancient times, the speed of light could have been
Speaker 4: as high as ten thousand times faster. What would that
Speaker 4: have meant, Well, it meant the world would have been
Speaker 4: a very different place. It would have affected the chemistry,
Speaker 4: it would have affected you know, physic the physical world
Speaker 4: would have been very different. Things would have been much
Speaker 4: much sturdier. Because the speed of light affects the rotation
Speaker 4: of electrons around the around the nucleus of an atom,
Speaker 4: which affects the Because we live in an electric simulation,
Speaker 4: the atom is mostly empty space. The reason that we
Speaker 4: have the illusion of solidity is that the electrons or
Speaker 4: negatively charge. They need to get trillions of them together,
Speaker 4: they formed an electromagnetic field that don't allow things to
Speaker 4: pass through them. So the electrons, the electrons in this
Speaker 4: hand repel the electrons in this hand give me the
Speaker 4: illusion of solidity, so things would have been much more solid,
Speaker 4: Colors probably would have been more vivid, so forth, and
Speaker 4: so on. But what's more fascinating is what would how
Speaker 4: that would have affected our minds, our thought processes. Remember
Speaker 4: they're electronic. That means that they're electric. Rather that means
Speaker 4: that our minds would have been thousands of times faster.
Speaker 3: In the past.
Speaker 4: We would have been we would have been able to
Speaker 4: see things and observe things and perceive things greater than
Speaker 4: we can now. So now, so that could explain why
Speaker 4: people in the ancient times were able to build pyramids
Speaker 4: and stone hinge and all these different things, and we
Speaker 4: can't even duplicate today because they were They were that
Speaker 4: much smarter than we are. But I also perceived spiritual
Speaker 4: realm greater than we have. So that's why they interacted
Speaker 4: with the so called gods the elohem because to a
Speaker 4: degree that could probably perceive them because their minds were
Speaker 4: so much faster than ours. We have this this idea
Speaker 4: that people in ancient times were just were done and
Speaker 4: we're the smart ones. It's the other way around. We're
Speaker 4: the ones with slower brains, which is why we don't
Speaker 4: experience the spiritual realm the way people in ancient times
Speaker 4: did it took. For granted, you know, Jesus was casting
Speaker 4: out demons. Yeah it was a big deal, but no
Speaker 4: one was like they were like, oh, he's casting out demons,
Speaker 4: that's odd.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't like it was a paradigm shift because
Speaker 3: he was doing exactly right.
Speaker 4: So my whole point is bringing it back to where
Speaker 4: we are now. Our minds are getting slower, and that's
Speaker 4: also affecting our spirituality. It's affecting our thought process, and
Speaker 4: it's I think it's also affecting our ability to interact
Speaker 4: with Jehovah, to interact with the divine. It's tougher for
Speaker 4: us to interact with Jehovah than it was for someone
Speaker 4: during the time of Jesus or even earlier.
Speaker 2: And I agree with that because not only are we
Speaker 2: getting you know, our minds are getting slower because of
Speaker 2: you know, all of these external outside forces environmental things, food, water,
Speaker 2: chemicals in the sky. Uh. People are constantly on you know,
Speaker 2: electronic devices and things like that that that kind of
Speaker 2: muck us up, like the goop and a drain pipe, right,
Speaker 2: and it makes it so that we can't process things.
Speaker 2: We don't have the neuroprotection system in place for our
Speaker 2: brains anymore, and so processing simple things is like what
Speaker 2: did I just see?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: And so we have like take a minute and say
Speaker 2: and think about like what we actually physically, you know,
Speaker 2: just all with our with our eyesight, Like it takes
Speaker 2: a minute for the thoughts, you know, or from for
Speaker 2: that pattern going into your vision to fl and be
Speaker 2: processed in your brain as to what you saw, or
Speaker 2: being able to describe what somebody wore or you know,
Speaker 2: any of that stuff. We're so slowed down at our
Speaker 2: pace right now because of all of the different things
Speaker 2: and the chemical additives to the water and all of
Speaker 2: that stuff. And it's purposeful by design to break that
Speaker 2: connection that God made. And like when you were talking
Speaker 2: about the brain with the dendrites and the axons and stuff,
Speaker 2: it's like a chain link fence, right, And so anytime
Speaker 2: you take chemical, whether it's a legal substance or a
Speaker 2: prescription substance or whatever it is, it's like taking wire
Speaker 2: cutters and cutting a piece out of that chain link
Speaker 2: fence and still expecting that fence to be able to
Speaker 2: protect you from the wolves that are trying to get
Speaker 2: into your yard if that system is those those chemical
Speaker 2: reactions don't happen, those uh neurological responses or you know,
Speaker 2: firings of those synapses don't work. And that's why your
Speaker 2: brain is processing things much slower because you're not able
Speaker 2: to have that chemical reaction that happens that controls your emotions,
Speaker 2: controls your movements, controls your visual senses and things like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say one more thing.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna turn it back to John just to wrap
Speaker 4: this up. So, yeah, so things we're slowing down, and
Speaker 4: I think you can probably see that in our society
Speaker 4: that people just are not thinking clearly anymore, and deception
Speaker 4: is rampant because and it's going to get worse as
Speaker 4: we see, you know, biblically speaking, as we get closer
Speaker 4: to the very end of our age. The Bible shows
Speaker 4: that people are going to be more more open to deception.
Speaker 4: They're going to be they're not going to be thinking.
Speaker 4: They're going to have a hive mind because they aren't
Speaker 4: able to discern the differences, are going to want to
Speaker 4: be in this homogeneous state because they can't think outside
Speaker 4: of the box. However, the good news is that if
Speaker 4: you are in tune with Jehovah. If you if you
Speaker 4: are having those council meetings, that can speed your brain
Speaker 4: up because it's it's light.
Speaker 3: And John one.
Speaker 4: Five says that God is light and there is no
Speaker 4: darkness in him at all. So if the more of
Speaker 4: the light of God you have in you, and I
Speaker 4: mean the genuine light, now I don't, I'm not speaking
Speaker 4: like new ag terms source of light in you, then
Speaker 4: that can speed up your brain and you can also
Speaker 4: get And the good news is, even if our brains
Speaker 4: are physically degraded, there's a source outside of us, as
Speaker 4: John was saying, that can come into our brain. The
Speaker 4: Holy Spirit can give us information and ideas, and that
Speaker 4: can help us. So that's the good news of it.
Speaker 4: There is there is a way around it, a way
Speaker 4: to increase that speed. And the more we clean out
Speaker 4: our brain, you know, physically by fasting, but also spiritually
Speaker 4: by getting all the spiritual junk and bad thoughts that
Speaker 4: we have.
Speaker 2: In understanding your garden exactly.
Speaker 4: Those things can make can give you an advantage over
Speaker 4: other people who have slow brains, who cannot think.
Speaker 3: Right. So we have to be more intentional than people
Speaker 3: one thousand, two thousand years ago on how to think,
Speaker 3: and that's why mental health is declining. It is tougher
Speaker 3: for us, and we have to be more intentional. So
Speaker 3: I want to take the example you gave Janet, because
Speaker 3: this is the type of stuff I love talking about.
Speaker 3: How I apply this so women falling asleep type of thing.
Speaker 3: So the thing to realize is that there's a there's
Speaker 3: a part of your brain called the nucleus basalas, and
Speaker 3: it's the doorway to your conscious brain. And where you
Speaker 3: point it is where your focus is. So if you
Speaker 3: and I were having dinner and I was talking and
Speaker 3: you were pointing your nucleus pasalas to the table next
Speaker 3: to us, listening to their conversation, you're looking at me,
Speaker 3: but you're taking in information from the other table Versus
Speaker 3: if your mucleusals is pointed at me, then you're taking
Speaker 3: in my information. Now. A woman's nucleus pasalas moves so
Speaker 3: quick she can take in five conversations at once. A
Speaker 3: man's nucleus basalas.
Speaker 2: It's tunnel vision like this, so.
Speaker 3: He can try to do two things at once, but
Speaker 3: it's do this, yeah, then do this, then do this,
Speaker 3: but not literally the same time and The thing is
Speaker 3: is I went to a museum in Toronto years ago
Speaker 3: and they were explaining that your cell phone is off
Speaker 3: half the time. And what they did was they said, here,
Speaker 3: you picked up a phone and the signal went out
Speaker 3: every half a second, so out this. Then you picked
Speaker 3: up a phone where the signal dropped every millisecond, and
Speaker 3: it sounded like this. The signal's dropping out so quick
Speaker 3: it's beyond the resolution of your ability to hear. Now,
Speaker 3: notice if it had dropped down to another person, back
Speaker 3: up to this and down, it would sound like two
Speaker 3: people talking at the same time. So when the research
Speaker 3: shows up and says, hey, it's impossible to take in
Speaker 3: more than one thing through your nucleus pasalis at the
Speaker 3: same time, it only can take in what's pointed at,
Speaker 3: I agree. But if your nucleus pasalis can move so quick,
Speaker 3: quicker than the resolution of your ear, you can take
Speaker 3: in both of them as if it will feel like
Speaker 3: it's the same time. So if you think about it,
Speaker 3: I could put three women in front of a group
Speaker 3: and I could say, when I say go, I want
Speaker 3: all three of you to start telling them the story
Speaker 3: of lunch yesterday. One two, three, Go all three women
Speaker 3: talk at the same time. When they're done, I can
Speaker 3: ask any of the women what the other women were
Speaker 3: saying and they can tell you. So you think about
Speaker 3: us guys. Everybody gets together and the women are in
Speaker 3: like one and they're all talking at the same time.
Speaker 3: And a guy walks in the room and he walks
Speaker 3: out of the room.
Speaker 2: I live apartment.
Speaker 3: That is not gonna happen. It's what's funny is I live.
Speaker 3: I'm down here in Miami. I live in an apartment
Speaker 3: and they have coffee down in the in the lobby,
Speaker 3: you know, a little coffee machine, and I go down
Speaker 3: to get coffee, and there's these four women, they're Hispanic women,
Speaker 3: and they're sitting there talking and all talking at the
Speaker 3: same time, and they are having a blast. And I
Speaker 3: sat there, I'm getting my coffee and I've listening to him.
Speaker 3: I go, you know what, it doesn't matter if they're
Speaker 3: speaking Spanish or English. I wasn't gonna understand what was
Speaker 3: going on either way because they're just all talking at
Speaker 3: the same time and they're getting it. So that's the
Speaker 3: thing to realize, is when a woman has a sixth thought,
Speaker 3: that's when they crash. So so one of the things
Speaker 3: to realize is a woman can have up to five
Speaker 3: thoughts at the same time and still be healthy. But
Speaker 3: when she has that sixth thought, when she crashes. So
Speaker 3: one of the things I talk about with males is,
Speaker 3: and I've talked about this with females. I say, hey,
Speaker 3: I have a guy you can call if you're single,
Speaker 3: I have a guy you can call come home from work.
Speaker 3: He'll talk to you ten fifteen minutes, and all he's
Speaker 3: gonna do is you're gonna tell them about your day.
Speaker 3: You know you're thinking of these five things. Tell them
Speaker 3: about one of the things you're thinking about. He's gonna listen,
Speaker 3: he's gonna ask you questions. He's not gonna tell you
Speaker 3: what to do. He's not going to have to tell
Speaker 3: you how to solve it. He's gonna talk to you
Speaker 3: until you file it away. Then he's gonna talk to
Speaker 3: you two more times. And so if you stay, if
Speaker 3: you get three thoughts off your plate every day as
Speaker 3: a woman, you're never gonna crash. And so when I
Speaker 3: talk to guys who are married, I say, and their
Speaker 3: wife crashes, I say, you know, you know whose fault
Speaker 3: that is. It's your fault because you let her get
Speaker 3: up to six thoughts. If you would talk to every
Speaker 3: day from fifteen to fifteen minutes, you keep her down
Speaker 3: below too, she would never crash. So the other half
Speaker 3: of what I think is happening with you, Janet, is
Speaker 3: you're flowing all day. So it's easier for men to flow,
Speaker 3: because in order to flow, you got to get to
Speaker 3: one thought and then give up control and it comes
Speaker 3: back and give them control. So you're toggling between your
Speaker 3: conscious and unconsciousness. Us guys are already sitting at one thought.
Speaker 3: It's harder for women, but you get focused on something.
Speaker 3: I bet during the day, you get focused, you know
Speaker 3: how to flow, you have energy, and you're doing that.
Speaker 3: Then at the end of the day you go, WHOA,
Speaker 3: I got a bunch of things that I need to
Speaker 3: close the loop on. And so what I say to
Speaker 3: women is, you know, men don't have a problem sleeping.
Speaker 3: You know we're already at one thought. In order to
Speaker 3: fall asleep, you have to be at one thought. That's
Speaker 3: the key to fall asleep. So I tell women, you know,
Speaker 3: women are the ones who have trouble sleeping because they're
Speaker 3: at five thoughts. So I say, there's two ways to
Speaker 3: fall asleep as a woman. Number One, you take a
Speaker 3: journal and you write down everything you're thinking of so
Speaker 3: that it's captured. You can let go of it and
Speaker 3: you're at one thought and you sleep, or you lay
Speaker 3: in bed and try to think about everything until after
Speaker 3: two hours you get so physically exhausted you can only
Speaker 3: think of one thing and then you fall asleep. So
Speaker 3: which way do you want to fall asleep? So that's
Speaker 3: how I helped with.
Speaker 2: It's funny to me because it's almost like me telling
Speaker 2: God all of these things that popped into my head.
Speaker 2: And it's usually like literally everything that's come out of
Speaker 2: every conversation I've had with somebody during the day, or
Speaker 2: conversation with my husband and I had, or being the
Speaker 2: kids or whatever, and it's like all of these things.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm praying, I'm having my discussion with
Speaker 2: God and you know, praying for all these things and stuff,
Speaker 2: and these things start coming out. So it's kind of
Speaker 2: like I'm telling him all this stuff, which I don't
Speaker 2: have problems sleeping, but when all this stuff comes up,
Speaker 2: it like comes up in a hurry, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: don't know why I thought about that, but in my
Speaker 2: mind keeps going and then I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, but you share everything. I think this is amazing
Speaker 3: because what you're doing is the same thing I'm saying
Speaker 3: is talking to a guy a husband is the same thing.
Speaker 3: You talk to God. And if you talking to God
Speaker 3: allows you to let go of it, you'll be down
Speaker 3: to one thought. I think you're talking to God, and
Speaker 3: then your unconscious is going there's other thoughts.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get rid of all of it. You get rid
Speaker 3: of all of it and you can fall asleep. So
Speaker 3: I think that's super healthy to do that.
Speaker 2: And that's the way it is, literally every single night.
Speaker 2: And it's kind of like a build up of all
Speaker 2: this stuff during the day, like I said, from all
Speaker 2: these different conversations, and then it just like comes out
Speaker 2: while I'm saying my.
Speaker 3: Sor the thing is is the key to doing that?
Speaker 3: Because anybody listening would say, well, that doesn't work for me.
Speaker 3: When you share, you let go of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if you talk to yourself, like if you
Speaker 2: speak out loud stuff. And I call it my grounding,
Speaker 2: right because I sit outside a lot and I'll talk
Speaker 2: to the animals that come in the yard or whatever,
Speaker 2: and so like if something's weighing heavy on me or
Speaker 2: whatever from a conversation. I'll even like talk to a
Speaker 2: bird or something that flies past me and whatever, and
Speaker 2: it's like it's like getting that you know, emotion out.
Speaker 2: It's not my emotion. I don't own it. I'm just
Speaker 2: holding space for somebody else, right, And so I just
Speaker 2: talk to whatever animal comes through and whatever, and it
Speaker 2: gets it out and then I have room to like
Speaker 2: process more stuff.
Speaker 3: So this is a great another great example you just did,
Speaker 3: another great one. Unconscious is ninety percent of your brain.
Speaker 3: It wants to know what you're thinking. It doesn't know
Speaker 3: what you're thinking until you say it out loud or
Speaker 3: you write it down right, So how does he put
Speaker 3: try to get to know what you're thinking. It starts
Speaker 3: putting pressure on you. So when you feel this internal pressure,
Speaker 3: if you write out what you're thinking or you say
Speaker 3: out loud, and I love what you're doing, you're talking
Speaker 3: to the animals. Now you could talk to a friend
Speaker 3: and it doesn't matter if the friend listens, because really
Speaker 3: the benefit is your unconscious here is it. So when
Speaker 3: you talk to this friend, what happens is your unconscious
Speaker 3: learns it and it gets off of you. It releases
Speaker 3: the pressure because now it knows what happens. What it's
Speaker 3: also going to do is it's going to rejuice you,
Speaker 3: energize you to go towards that friend, or go towards outside.
Speaker 3: If you've gone outside and done that and your unconscious
Speaker 3: learned stuff outside, your unconscious is going to start pushing
Speaker 3: you to go outside, rewarding you for going outside, because.
Speaker 2: That's spend outside, honestly, and.
Speaker 3: Your unconscious actually giving you energy to do it. Because
Speaker 3: that's so. That's what I mean, is like you can
Speaker 3: have your unconscient just behind you, energizing you. You can
Speaker 3: have your unconscious in your face resisting you and pushing
Speaker 3: you and draining you. If we understand that, then we
Speaker 3: can use our conscious brain to get our unconscious behind us.
Speaker 3: And that's what you're doing. Talking outside. When you talk,
Speaker 3: you're teaching, You're letting your unconscious brain what's going on,
Speaker 3: and then your unconscious brain goes good. That's all that's
Speaker 3: all I want to know. I just want to know
Speaker 3: what's going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I want to circle back to something I
Speaker 4: talked about before, and and and then John can explain
Speaker 4: all the mechanics behind it. Because just and just going
Speaker 4: back to what you said previously about being outside, I'm
Speaker 4: the same way. I go on a hike every morning,
Speaker 4: and I'm energized going to hike. Becaus when I'm on
Speaker 4: my hike is that's when I start, you know, because
Speaker 4: I'm away from things. You know that it's calm and
Speaker 4: I'm able to express my thoughts and I and I
Speaker 4: talk out loud because there's no one around us. Call
Speaker 4: me insane for talking to myself out.
Speaker 2: I talk to myself all the time.
Speaker 4: Okay, my conscious were working for that by saying, oh
Speaker 4: it's hike time. Awesome, let's go. I'm working with John.
Speaker 4: I were talking about those a few weeks ago. I'm
Speaker 4: working on doing the same thing with weightlifting because I
Speaker 4: need I need to get that same motivation.
Speaker 2: Doing me both. If you figure that out, let me know,
Speaker 2: because I tried.
Speaker 4: It's it's hard to talk about to the waist because
Speaker 4: I'm puffing and puffing. But if I can find a
Speaker 4: way to do the same thing, unconscious will reward me
Speaker 4: and say, hey, let's go lift weights and anyway, you know,
Speaker 4: because I have because of my website, because of what
Speaker 4: I do. Obviously a very Christian Bible focused. I always
Speaker 4: get atheists who come in my comment section, and you know,
Speaker 4: they do their thing. They either do the little drive
Speaker 4: by comments or they disagree or all these things, and
Speaker 4: and it's always puzzled me, like why are you?
Speaker 3: Why are you here?
Speaker 4: Mm hm, and so I, so I. And the thing
Speaker 4: is I finally, when I understood the unconscious of how
Speaker 4: it works, I understood why they keep showing up.
Speaker 3: You see them everywhere. And here's the thing.
Speaker 4: If you are an atheist, and they're probably some listening,
Speaker 4: not because they're because I know you have the spiritual
Speaker 4: component to the show. They're not here because they're trying
Speaker 4: to learn spirituality because they're generally curious. They're here because
Speaker 4: they need something. Yes, Because here's the thing. If you
Speaker 4: were truly an atheist, then you believe that this is it,
Speaker 4: that this life is all you have. Once you die,
Speaker 4: you're into oblivion, which means the most precious commodity you
Speaker 4: have is your time. It's the one thing you cannot
Speaker 4: get back. You can always make more money. If you
Speaker 4: lose money, you can make more money. If you aren't
Speaker 4: having a good time, you can always find a way
Speaker 4: to have more pleasure. You could always get more of
Speaker 4: everything except time. Every nanosecond that passes is one nanosecond
Speaker 4: closer to oblivion. So the question would be, if that's
Speaker 4: the case, why would you spend any of your time
Speaker 4: on a site or listening to a podcast where watching
Speaker 4: a video about a god you don't even think is real.
Speaker 4: That makes no sense. Here's the problem. If you remember
Speaker 4: the movie The Matrix, when the first time that Morpheus
Speaker 4: and Neo meet in person and he says to him,
Speaker 4: he says, Neil, I'm gonna tell you why you're here.
Speaker 4: This is the same reason that atheists are here and
Speaker 4: where they while they're in my comments. You're here because
Speaker 4: you know something. What that's something is you weren't sure about,
Speaker 4: but it's like a splinter in your mind driving you mad.
Speaker 4: That's why they're here. But it's not they don't know it.
Speaker 4: Their unconscious knows it. Here's one thing I think John
Speaker 4: mentioned or and maybe I think you mentioned it. But
Speaker 4: your unconscious sees reality. It sees one hundred percent of
Speaker 4: what's real. You're unconscious cannot lie. It cannot it doesn't
Speaker 4: have to. It's not moral, it doesn't seek good or evil,
Speaker 4: just these patterns. It sees reality. And what it wants
Speaker 4: to do. It wants to help you. It wants to
Speaker 4: help you see reality because it's vital to your survival.
Speaker 4: You know, if you're walking in the woods and there's
Speaker 4: a bear coming towards you, your unconscious wants you to
Speaker 4: see the reality of that bear. Then it's going to
Speaker 4: put the chemical sports in your brain for for fight
Speaker 4: or flight. It's gonna make your heart beat faster, your
Speaker 4: your breath more shallow, because it knows that the pattern
Speaker 4: it has seen is that the more the closer you're
Speaker 4: aligned with the reality, the better your life is going
Speaker 4: to be. So that's what it's going to do. If
Speaker 4: you're an atheist, you can consciously believe in things that
Speaker 4: are unscientific, like evolution, which is again scientifically impossible. You
Speaker 4: don't get order from chaos. Life cannot come from non life.
Speaker 4: There are no beneficial mutations. Those are all the things
Speaker 4: that have to be true in order for a for
Speaker 4: atheistic evolution to be true, and they're not true. That's
Speaker 4: not reality. Now you can believe that consciously. You can
Speaker 4: lie to yourself. You can believe something that's not true.
Speaker 4: Your unconscious cannot. Your unconscious has seen the patterns and
Speaker 4: he sees that life has never come from non life,
Speaker 4: never experienced it, no beneficial mutations, no order from chaos.
Speaker 4: So every atheist, your unconscious mind, knows that's a Precepts
Speaker 4: of evolution are an atheism are are impossible. It knows
Speaker 4: it's not reality, and it wants you to know that
Speaker 4: it's not reality. But you're unconscious. As your friend, it
Speaker 4: thinks the best of you, so it believes that. Okay,
Speaker 4: he doesn't. He sees this atheism is this evolution thing.
Speaker 4: It's an innocent mistake. So what's it gonna do. It
Speaker 4: can't communicate with you through words, as John says, It's
Speaker 4: just going to give you feelings.
Speaker 3: It's gonna nut.
Speaker 4: It's just gonna give you a little poke, that little
Speaker 4: splinter in your mind. Here's a problem every time if
Speaker 4: you're an atheist, every time, every time you're speaking of
Speaker 4: that worldview, you're unconscious, it's going to say, you know
Speaker 4: that's not true. You know that's not true. It's going
Speaker 4: to keep poking you for your own sake. But the
Speaker 4: problem is the more it pokes you, it starts to
Speaker 4: irritate you. Then you start getting angry, and you think
Speaker 4: atheists that you're angry at God or Christianity.
Speaker 3: So what do you do?
Speaker 4: You want to get rid of that poking, that splinter
Speaker 4: in your mind driving you mad. And since you think
Speaker 4: that you're en me your opposition is Christians, you're going
Speaker 4: to go to a Christian website or you're going to
Speaker 4: go to the comment section and you're going to go
Speaker 4: there and you're going to get into a fight with them.
Speaker 4: You're going to say, you're gonna insult them, get into
Speaker 4: a fight with them and try to beat them because
Speaker 4: you think that's your opponent.
Speaker 3: And let's say you do.
Speaker 4: Let's say you you're smarter, you're a better debater than
Speaker 4: the person you're dealing with in the comment section, and
Speaker 4: you win the debate. Yeah, you get a dopamine hits,
Speaker 4: you feel great. Here's the problem. That dope mean hit
Speaker 4: is going to subside. And when after subside, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 4: Your unconscious is still poking you, splinter in your mind
Speaker 4: is still there. So what do you think we got?
Speaker 4: I gotta I need to read another book by Sam
Speaker 4: Harris or Richard Dawkins. That'll do it. And once I
Speaker 4: so you read the book, you watch Religionous.
Speaker 3: By by Bill Maher.
Speaker 4: You feel great, I finally defeat a Christianity. What happens appened.
Speaker 2: Starts poking you.
Speaker 4: You keep so that's why you're here, That's why they're here.
Speaker 4: They're here because they think that if they can find
Speaker 4: the right combination of words or knowledge to defeat Christianity,
Speaker 4: they will finally be happy and finally get rid of
Speaker 4: that poking. But they it will never happen because their
Speaker 4: opponent is not anything external. It's their own unconscious mind,
Speaker 4: which is nine times bigger than their conscious mind. So
Speaker 4: they can't beat it. So there are three ways, and
Speaker 4: I'll let you talk. It's gonna get the three ways
Speaker 4: that you can. If you can that you can get
Speaker 4: rid of. First, you can't beat your You cannot beat
Speaker 4: up your unconscious it's bigger than you. It will be like,
Speaker 4: you know, a five year old trying to beat up
Speaker 4: a weight lifter.
Speaker 3: Not gonna happen.
Speaker 4: You need to come into an agreement with it in
Speaker 4: one or two ways. You need to agree with it
Speaker 4: and say, you know what, and this is the preferred way.
Speaker 4: What I believe is wrong, your right unconscious brain, what
Speaker 4: I believe is impossible. I'm going to actually start exploring
Speaker 4: the actual truth that there must be some kind of
Speaker 4: intelligence behind all of life on earth, and you're conscience saying, good,
Speaker 4: you got it. You'll get it, you'll feel better, you'll
Speaker 4: have peace and calm, and you'll and that's where you go,
Speaker 4: and that that'll be the preferred way. The other way
Speaker 4: you can do is to tell you're unconscious. I know
Speaker 4: that you're right. You have to tell the unconscious you're
Speaker 4: it's right. I know this is wrong. I know it's incorrect,
Speaker 4: but I choose to believe it anyway. Even I acknowledge
Speaker 4: that you're correct, I acknowledge what I believe is not reality,
Speaker 4: but I choose to believe it. That's not the perfect solution,
Speaker 4: but it'll bring It'll take that poking down some and
Speaker 4: you'll be able to live with it. It's what a
Speaker 4: man named George Wald in the nineteen fifties. He was
Speaker 4: a Nobel Prize winning scientist. He has a famous cult.
Speaker 4: He basically says, I'm paraphrasing. We in a scientific community,
Speaker 4: we know that evolution is impossible. However, the alternative is
Speaker 4: believing in spirituality, which we find distasteful. Therefore, we choose
Speaker 4: to believe the impossible. Thus that's a quote from George Walt.
Speaker 4: You can look it up, you can google it. So
Speaker 4: he's he's damaged, he's intentionally damaging his brain. But at
Speaker 4: least he is he's got some of that poking. That
Speaker 4: splinter is a little softer. Or the third option is
Speaker 4: to just keep doing what you're doing. The problem is
Speaker 4: that if you're listening to me right now and you're
Speaker 4: an atheist, not only do you know that you're true,
Speaker 4: that your true opponent is you're unconscious. Your unconscious knows
Speaker 4: that you know, and now it's going to ramp things up.
Speaker 4: So I just kind of put her dirty trick on you.
Speaker 4: But it's going to ramp it up more because now
Speaker 4: it knows that you're not innocent, so it's going to
Speaker 4: wrap things up even more. But the whole point of
Speaker 4: that is that you need to understand the thing that
Speaker 4: is bringing you down, not just in atheism but in
Speaker 4: any other area where you, as John says, when you're
Speaker 4: having these feelings, when you're being de energized, you need
Speaker 4: to look at what's the unconscious cause look at what's
Speaker 4: happening in your own unconscious mind and see and ask
Speaker 4: what your unconscious is trying to tell you because there's
Speaker 4: something you're missing and you can and you need to
Speaker 4: say out loud, you know, try because your unconscious is
Speaker 4: trying to communicate with you, and you say, you can
Speaker 4: tell it.
Speaker 3: What are you trying to tell me? What do I
Speaker 3: need to know? What?
Speaker 4: What do I believe that's incorrect? Which is actually one
Speaker 4: of the greatest prayers you can ever ask it you
Speaker 4: can pray to God, is tell me what's wrong. When
Speaker 4: you do that, your unconscious will start to ease up
Speaker 4: on you because now it knows that you recognize a
Speaker 4: problem and you're trying to solve it, and it'll start
Speaker 4: poining you in the right direction if you're willing to
Speaker 4: listen to it. But if you don't and you keep fighting,
Speaker 4: it's going to keep wrapping things up and making you
Speaker 4: more and more uncomfortable and drained until you do.
Speaker 2: I think it's like it's almost like a fable. Right
Speaker 2: you've got like the ego searching for validation and stuff
Speaker 2: fighting your soul because your soul knows who you truly are.
Speaker 2: Your soul knows like what is what is right, what
Speaker 2: is good, just all of those things. But our human
Speaker 2: ego side is is always seeking validation that that we're
Speaker 2: right and we could never be wrong because you know,
Speaker 2: we're so wonderful all the right and so, yeah, one
Speaker 2: thing that I always do before every single show, it's
Speaker 2: I always pray for God's words to come through me
Speaker 2: to you know that that his wisdom and his knowledge
Speaker 2: come through and his message for the people who need
Speaker 2: to hear it. And you would be surpris eyes to
Speaker 2: how many people, even if they don't agree with whatever
Speaker 2: the show was about, whatever was talked about was like,
Speaker 2: you know, something you said or something your guest said
Speaker 2: or whatever during a show really hit home and really resonated.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I needed to hear. And a lot
Speaker 2: of times, even little things like that, little bitty splinters
Speaker 2: here and there will nagget somebody they and they'll finally
Speaker 2: hear the message that they need to hear to make
Speaker 2: that little change. Yeah, it's something small.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to say something about atheists then, So
Speaker 3: I love atheists. I think atheists are the most honest
Speaker 3: people in the world. And I think what they're they're
Speaker 3: trying to do is they're trying to get an answer.
Speaker 3: And I would say a non contradictory answer they have
Speaker 3: that splinter, Like Ed says, they want an answer, and
Speaker 3: the reality is is when they talk to Christians, Christians
Speaker 3: can't explain what they believe in why atheists essentially, says
Speaker 3: I would never believe something for that reason, right, And
Speaker 3: so to Ed's point, when they go online and they
Speaker 3: argue with Christians, yeah, they're gonna win the arguments because
Speaker 3: the argument is essentially, I don't believe this because it
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense. Why do you believe it? Show me
Speaker 3: how it makes sense? I look at atheists, is going
Speaker 3: show me how it makes sense?
Speaker 2: Teach me something, Teach me something.
Speaker 3: And so I wrote Modeling God, this book, and in
Speaker 3: it I always said, I think this book is meant
Speaker 3: for atheists because Christians don't. They want to think that
Speaker 3: they're right, and they don't want an explanation because they're
Speaker 3: afraid to be wrong and they're afraid to go, wait,
Speaker 3: I've been wrong all this time. Whereas when atheists read
Speaker 3: this book, I give them the answers they've always wanted,
Speaker 3: and in fact it's the answer the Christians should have had.
Speaker 3: The Christians don't have those answers. So I think it's great.
Speaker 3: I love talking atheists because I believe they really want
Speaker 3: an answer, and I believe I give them an answer.
Speaker 2: I like that though, And I like that you said
Speaker 2: that because it's almost like teaching an assent child, right,
Speaker 2: because they want information, they crave that knowledge and stuff.
Speaker 1: And the.
Speaker 2: Older we get from our childhood, the less that you
Speaker 2: can tell us or teach us, because we're already set
Speaker 2: in our ways. And for a lot of people who
Speaker 2: aren't atheists, they used to have some kind of faith,
Speaker 2: they lost that faith along the way because of the
Speaker 2: lies and indoctrination that come along with organized religion. Instead
Speaker 2: of being in the Bible and knowing the word of God,
Speaker 2: you're getting the Word of God through an organization that
Speaker 2: has a clear mandate over what can be taught, what
Speaker 2: can be said. And I think I have this conversation
Speaker 2: frequently with people that they turn to the to the
Speaker 2: church for counseling, therapy, guidance or whatever, and they're not
Speaker 2: there on that level to be able to guide you
Speaker 2: to where you need to be. It's like, well, maybe
Speaker 2: you should rethink, maybe you're not praying hard enough, and
Speaker 2: that seems to always be the issue, or you know,
Speaker 2: whether it's addiction or whatever the case. May be. It's
Speaker 2: kind of like they're passing judgment on you as to
Speaker 2: why you're not better, you know what I mean, instead
Speaker 2: of instead of actually talking to you like a human being.
Speaker 4: Well, that's why I said the very first the best
Speaker 4: solution is to again follow your unconscious. But it takes humility,
Speaker 4: right to say, okay, and can I be wrong here
Speaker 4: and let me start investigating that way and something to do.
Speaker 4: I've had I've had, you know, a former atheists come
Speaker 4: to me and say, hey, you know what, You've given
Speaker 4: an explanation that makes sense. I'm not convinced yet, but
Speaker 4: I'm willing to start going down that road. That takes humility,
Speaker 4: and that's rare, and but it takes a lot of
Speaker 4: strength to do that. But because most of us are comparative,
Speaker 4: most of us want to be right and we want
Speaker 4: to prove ourselves right.
Speaker 3: We've made our decision.
Speaker 4: I've decided that they're Christians the same way I've decided
Speaker 4: that you know, God is who I think he is
Speaker 4: and it's the way he is, and you can't budget
Speaker 4: me or vice versa. There is nobody to convince me.
Speaker 4: But if you can say this is what I think
Speaker 4: God is or isn't, but I don't know. So that's
Speaker 4: why that's why i'm I'm I like agnostics as well,
Speaker 4: because at least agnosticsts I don't know. I don't think
Speaker 4: there is what I maybe I don't know, but I
Speaker 4: believe God exists.
Speaker 3: I don't know who that is. That's the safest way
Speaker 3: to go with that. So I want to do a
Speaker 3: little plug for ed again. So because Janet, I love
Speaker 3: what you said. That's like the heart of the issue
Speaker 3: is when someone tells me they don't believe in God
Speaker 3: or they don't believe in Jesus or Salvation, I say
Speaker 3: to them, what do you who do you believe God is?
Speaker 3: Or what do you believe about God? And they go, well,
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I don't believe God is blah
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. And I'm like, I agree, I
Speaker 3: don't believe God is that either, And where did you
Speaker 3: learn God was like that? Well? These people said it, right,
Speaker 3: have you ever read it in the Bible. So one
Speaker 3: of the things that I do online that really annoys
Speaker 3: the people who are intellectuals, and I can and these
Speaker 3: are famous people even that I can kind of scare
Speaker 3: is the minute someone brings up some interpretation, and I'll
Speaker 3: just say it. Like Jordan Peterson, you know, when he
Speaker 3: was talking with Sam Harris about the story of Cain
Speaker 3: and Abel. It's like in that story, Cain gives Uh
Speaker 3: an offering, Abel gives up the best or the fat.
Speaker 3: They both give an offering. It says God doesn't give
Speaker 3: a regard or a respect to Cain's offering. Does it
Speaker 3: say God said Cain's sin? Does it say God rejected
Speaker 3: the offering? Does not? If you read the text, God
Speaker 3: does not ignore the offering or say it's bad. Later
Speaker 3: in the Bible, Jesus says, when you do what's expected,
Speaker 3: don't look for an affirmation. Right exactly, So Cain did
Speaker 3: exactly what he was supposed to do. He gave an offering,
Speaker 3: the offering it it meant it. If you pay your taxes,
Speaker 3: you know, you pay a bill, how much it's owed,
Speaker 3: they don't come and call you up and go, hey,
Speaker 3: great job paid that bill. Okay, Now if you overpay
Speaker 3: the bill, they're gonna return you the money. Abel overpaid
Speaker 3: the bill, So God regarded, basically respected, gave back he
Speaker 3: gave because God's writing just God gave attention back to Abel.
Speaker 3: Because Abel gave more than what was expected. So in
Speaker 3: the story you got two people. One gave what's expected,
Speaker 3: one gave more. God said, well, I owe you this much,
Speaker 3: so he gave him respect. Now Ed has an interesting
Speaker 3: aspect that he brings to this story. If you read
Speaker 3: the Bible as a story Adam and Eve when they're
Speaker 3: kicked out of the garden, there's a prophecy that eve
Speaker 3: Seed is going to crush Yes, you know, Naicasha's head.
Speaker 3: So they grow up with that. So Cain thinks I'm
Speaker 3: the guy who's gonna be the hero of this story, right,
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden this incident happens and wait,
Speaker 3: able it's Abel. I grew up my whole life thinking
Speaker 3: I'm the hero, and now he might be the hero.
Speaker 3: And he's down, and God says to him, why are
Speaker 3: you down? You know what? What? What did anybody do wrong?
Speaker 3: Fin is crouching at your door, meaning you have not sinned,
Speaker 3: but if you keep going this way, it's gonna get you.
Speaker 3: Cain is not sinned. You read the story, and if
Speaker 3: you have any reading comprehension, if you have an eighth
Speaker 3: grade level of interpreting text, you know Cain hasn't sinned yet.
Speaker 3: Jordan Peterson and other people say Cain is sinned, which
Speaker 3: means they are unable to interpret text. When people start
Speaker 3: interpreting the Bible, I go, okay, it's text. Tell me
Speaker 3: what your interpretation is. But be careful because if you
Speaker 3: demonstrate you can interpret text, you have now lost all credibility.
Speaker 3: Everybody just tightens up and they don't want to do that.
Speaker 3: It's funny all these people like the mouth off about
Speaker 3: the Bible says that the Bible says that. I go, great,
Speaker 3: let's go to the text. Let's read it. Because what
Speaker 3: d is doing is, if you think about it, how
Speaker 3: would you read The Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter.
Speaker 3: There's two principles. Number one, you don't bring anything from
Speaker 3: the outside. You don't go you know, I think Proto
Speaker 3: took a spaceship to get from this part of the story.
Speaker 3: You don't do that. Number two, you take what's written.
Speaker 3: You don't read the first two chapters ago this happened.
Speaker 3: If you just read the Bible like a story, like
Speaker 3: it's any other story. Don't bring things from the outside,
Speaker 3: and just take it at face value and see where
Speaker 3: it goes. Like in Ed's class, you're going to find
Speaker 3: out it's very straightforward and it gives you the answers
Speaker 3: and it makes sense. And then you're going to find
Speaker 3: out that what is everybody what book is everybody else reading?
Speaker 3: That they're getting it wrong and they can't answer these questions, well,
Speaker 3: what book they're reading, because they're not reading this book.
Speaker 3: And it really comes down to there, you have an
Speaker 3: inability to interpret text.
Speaker 2: And for people that, like I said, are atheists now
Speaker 2: that used to be in religion and got turned off
Speaker 2: because of stuff. A lot of what we see now
Speaker 2: is topical sermons, maybe a couple lines of scripture here
Speaker 2: and there through an hour sermon, and then it's like
Speaker 2: their interpretation or their interpretation of what scripture says, which
Speaker 2: is definitely not what scripture says if you actually go
Speaker 2: and look it up, well the Bible tells you and
Speaker 2: that is absolutely not in the Bible anywhere. It's not
Speaker 2: what it says.
Speaker 4: And the other thing is perspective. The other thing is perspective.
Speaker 4: When you talk about those topical sermons, you know they
Speaker 4: give you a few lines off, you know, how to
Speaker 4: be better, how to get X, Y and Z. Because
Speaker 4: this is what we do differently in the Jehovah story.
Speaker 4: And that's why we call this this Bible study the
Speaker 4: Jehopah story, because the Bible is not our story. The
Speaker 4: Bible is Jehovah's story. And most of us grew up
Speaker 4: myself included going to church, thinking that the Bible is
Speaker 4: our story. This is all about us and how we
Speaker 4: can have a better life and our guides to life,
Speaker 4: and how we can find the right spouse and find
Speaker 4: the right job and live this abundant, happy life. If
Speaker 4: you go into it with that attitude, then in that perspective,
Speaker 4: you're going to miss so much because it's not our story.
Speaker 4: It's it's Jehovah's story. And that's the that's the element
Speaker 4: that you have to read into it, or a perspective
Speaker 4: that you have to take, and that's the perspective that
Speaker 4: we take. You're in his Bible study that this is
Speaker 4: his story. He's We're not the hero, We're a side character.
Speaker 4: This is this is this is Jehovah's story, and it's
Speaker 4: the story he wants to tell us for one reason.
Speaker 4: The only reason you would ever tell a story is
Speaker 4: so that someone understands you and gets to know you.
Speaker 4: If I want to know you, Janet. Facts about you's
Speaker 4: not gonna help me. If I know you know what
Speaker 4: city you were born and where you went to school,
Speaker 4: what your GPA was, I don't know you. But if
Speaker 4: you tell me stories about you, that's how I get
Speaker 4: to know. Your telling us this stories, we can know him.
Speaker 4: If you want to know my story, you don't read
Speaker 4: the Bible, well you think about me.
Speaker 2: You know what's beautiful about what you said is it's
Speaker 2: his story. So it's his testimony of his life, right,
Speaker 2: And that is why one of my absolute favorite things
Speaker 2: to do is talk to people I've never talked to before,
Speaker 2: don't know anything about them. They come on the show
Speaker 2: and they give their testimony and I've done mine like
Speaker 2: many times, and people are like, oh my God, like,
Speaker 2: aren't you afraid to talk about like some of those things,
Speaker 2: And I'm like no, because did Jesus hide any of
Speaker 2: his testimony about his life? No, So I'm not afraid
Speaker 2: of doing that either. And they think it's important because
Speaker 2: it pays respect to God. When you give your testimony,
Speaker 2: you are telling people your uniqueness, how He made you,
Speaker 2: and the struggles that you went through to be the
Speaker 2: person that He created you.
Speaker 3: To be right. So I want to go back to
Speaker 3: you which said about topical, because I've noticed this in
Speaker 3: churches is churches go through like three phases. The first
Speaker 3: phase is that they teach I'm trying to think of
Speaker 3: the term, but they teach a whole passage at a time,
Speaker 3: and so they'll sit there and teach the whole story
Speaker 3: and they'll interpret it. And the problem is is over time,
Speaker 3: when they teach something else, it's contradictory to what they've taught.
Speaker 3: So then they go to the second phase. What you're
Speaker 3: talking about is topically. So let's just I want to
Speaker 3: teach a topic about depression or whatever, and then I
Speaker 3: pick and choose and pick and choose, and then what
Speaker 3: ends up happening is then they start teaching books. Like
Speaker 3: the final phase of every church is, hey, this person
Speaker 3: wrote forty days a purpose, So now I'm going to
Speaker 3: teach from the pulpit forty days of purpose type of stuff.
Speaker 3: And the issue is, and now I'm going to do
Speaker 3: another plug for the thing is that as group is
Speaker 3: that there are passages in the Bible that if you
Speaker 3: were a pastor, you'd go There's no way I'm ever
Speaker 3: preaching that passage because I do not understand it and
Speaker 3: I don't have an answer, and I'm gonna look stupid
Speaker 3: if I say that. So if you really look at
Speaker 3: what the Bible is is when Aaron was when I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: when Moses and Joshua were in the tent with Jehovah
Speaker 3: while they were building the Tabernacle and they were talking,
Speaker 3: Jehovah dictated Genesis, and I believe you know, Moses wrote
Speaker 3: it down or Joshua wrote it down, either one of them,
Speaker 3: but they wrote down. Moses gets credit for it. So
Speaker 3: Genesis is literally Jehovah's story. Jehovah told a story, Moses
Speaker 3: wrote it down. It's very poetic, It's lacking a lot
Speaker 3: of details. The rest the Bible is commentary to fill
Speaker 3: in Jehovah's story. So you need to read the rest
Speaker 3: of the Bible as a story to learn facts. In
Speaker 3: every book you learn something more about Genesis that rounds
Speaker 3: out Jehovah's story. And so that's really what you're kind
Speaker 3: of doing, is you're starting here in Genesis and then
Speaker 3: you're reading this and really the Bible is like three
Speaker 3: Lord of the Rings. There is an epic Lord of
Speaker 3: the Ring story in the spiritual realm that nobody talks about.
Speaker 3: There's an epic Lord of the Ring story on Earth,
Speaker 3: which is the part of the Bible we all know.
Speaker 3: And then there's this epic story where the spiritual realm
Speaker 3: crosses the physical realm. So there's three epic stories. And
Speaker 3: ed those passages I talked about that no one wants
Speaker 3: to preach are passages that are explaining what's happening in
Speaker 3: spiritual realm or explaining what's happening where they intersect. That's
Speaker 3: where it's like, I just want to teach the Bible
Speaker 3: as a physical story, and I want to teach it
Speaker 3: down here, and I want to teach it topically, and
Speaker 3: I want to stay away from this and this because
Speaker 3: I don't understand it well. If you want to understand it,
Speaker 3: AD's going to take you through it, and you really
Speaker 3: need to understand all three stories to really get what's
Speaker 3: going on in the Bible.
Speaker 2: I like how, I like how how you described that
Speaker 2: like that it was the blank space right at first,
Speaker 2: and then you have to read all these other stories
Speaker 2: to fill it up. That's what we are as humans.
Speaker 2: Like in our testimony, we start with you know, this
Speaker 2: blank box and all of these things lead up to
Speaker 2: putting it back in the box, Like what we went through,
Speaker 2: what happened to us, what shaped us? And I think
Speaker 2: for a lot of people, reading the Bible on their
Speaker 2: own is difficult. For some people, they don't understand it.
Speaker 2: So what we started doing. I have a group of
Speaker 2: ladies that we just started doing this, like we went
Speaker 2: through stages of our life and what versus at that time,
Speaker 2: like went along with our life and why that had
Speaker 2: meaning and each person like read their Bible verse and
Speaker 2: like why it affected them so much if it still
Speaker 2: affects them today. Because one of the things is church
Speaker 2: is not in a building, right, right, churches people being
Speaker 2: able to have discussion, and a lot of times discussions
Speaker 2: get shut down at a church. And so you and
Speaker 2: I could read the story of Elijah and Elisha and
Speaker 2: it resonates with you one way, it resonates with me
Speaker 2: a different way because of our uniqueness. Right, It's not
Speaker 2: interpretation of text. It's like how it resonates inside of
Speaker 2: us based on how we were created, right. And it's
Speaker 2: like those experiences in that conversation that you can have
Speaker 2: with other people can fuel that fire for them to
Speaker 2: then go and start looking into other stories of the
Speaker 2: Bible or I never thought of it that way, But
Speaker 2: you know what, it affects my life the exact same
Speaker 2: way it affects your life. That's I get that now.
Speaker 3: I think the thing is is if you take all
Speaker 3: the chapters in the three Lord of the Rings books
Speaker 3: and you read them out of order, I don't think
Speaker 3: you're really going to understand the story right correct. And
Speaker 3: that's what the Bible is right now. It's all out
Speaker 3: of order. So that's why to me reading the Bible
Speaker 3: anyway other than what Ed's doing, good luck trying to
Speaker 3: understand it. The big thing to realize is we're still
Speaker 3: in the Bible right well, this is what people are
Speaker 3: talking about when they're talking about what's happening on earth,
Speaker 3: and then what's happening. There's a lot of things we're
Speaker 3: seeing that's this intersection of the spiritual and physical realm,
Speaker 3: and then there's stuff happening in the spiritual realm today.
Speaker 3: And we would look at the people in the Bible,
Speaker 3: go why didn't they understand this was going on?
Speaker 2: Because I've read the story about the time understand that's.
Speaker 3: What the people the Bible are looking at us right now,
Speaker 3: right there cloud of witness is going. Boy, you people
Speaker 3: don't understand the.
Speaker 2: Process slower, among other things.
Speaker 4: But one of the ways to explain people the way
Speaker 4: the Bible is ordered, because you know, and man put
Speaker 4: the Bible in that order. So what has to be
Speaker 4: rearranged is that you think about the movie pulp Fiction. Yeah,
Speaker 4: pulp Fiction was a bunch of different stories which were
Speaker 4: not in order, and but they tell a big They
Speaker 4: tell a big story. So how do you know when
Speaker 4: you have the Bruce Willis character was completely different than
Speaker 4: you know, the Samuel L. Jackson's here didn't never even interact,
Speaker 4: but they but they do have threads of interaction between them.
Speaker 3: You know, there's that one scene.
Speaker 4: Where you know where where Bruce Willison's character encounters John
Speaker 4: Trabolta's character briefly and kills him and and so that's
Speaker 4: the threat that connects him. So it has to be
Speaker 4: so it's out of order, but it tells one big story.
Speaker 4: But you have to understand the principles, the beginning principles
Speaker 4: of what it's really all about. And if you want,
Speaker 4: once you understand those principles, then you can apply them elsewhere.
Speaker 4: So that's why Genesis is so important because you get
Speaker 4: all the principles there, you understand Jehovah's personality, his will,
Speaker 4: what his ultimate plan is for humanity, what he wants
Speaker 4: from us, and what he wants from us we see
Speaker 4: in chapters two and three. Well, yeah, the first three
Speaker 4: chapters what he wants. He says, there was a primordial rebellion,
Speaker 4: which that's a whole other thing you're not going to
Speaker 4: get into. Jehovah creates two realms, physical realm and a
Speaker 4: spiritual realm. There's a rebellion. He recreates the the the
Speaker 4: physical realm, where with people who will create a little
Speaker 4: bit lower than the angels, the yellowheim and he says, look,
Speaker 4: here's what we're going to do. The first one didn't
Speaker 4: work out. What I want to do now is I'm
Speaker 4: going to put these human beings over the planet Earth.
Speaker 4: They're going to be the intersection between the heavens and
Speaker 4: the Earth. Because you guys have the spirits, you guys
Speaker 4: couldn't handle it. We're going to commune together. They're going
Speaker 4: to rule over the Earth during the day and in
Speaker 4: the evening, we're going to walk and talk and share stories.
Speaker 4: We're going to get to know each other that's what
Speaker 4: that is it. If you understand that, then you know
Speaker 4: what God wants. God just wants to hang out with us.
Speaker 4: He wants Why else would you create intelligent beings?
Speaker 3: Why would you? Why do you have children to interact
Speaker 3: with him? That's what God wants.
Speaker 4: He wants us to inter He wants us just like
Speaker 4: you want your kids to grow up and have a
Speaker 4: life and then come around, you know, for talk to
Speaker 4: him in the evening, get together to Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Speaker 4: But live your life, explore, become unique, become the best
Speaker 4: you can be, and then let's then share it with me.
Speaker 4: That's what God wants. And if you understand that, you
Speaker 4: will understand the rest of the Bible, because the rest
Speaker 4: of the Bible is us screwing it up and God
Speaker 4: constantly trying to get us back to that state. That's
Speaker 4: what it's all about. And if you understand that principle
Speaker 4: and among others, then everything else makes sense. So then
Speaker 4: when you get to some of the weird areas where well,
Speaker 4: why did God punish the Israelites because they were his ambassadors.
Speaker 4: They were trying to tell they were supposed to tell
Speaker 4: the world how to be like Jehovah and if and
Speaker 4: if they mess up in Jehovah doesn't punish them, well,
Speaker 4: then now they have the wrong impression of Jehovah.
Speaker 3: Why did Jesus have to die?
Speaker 4: Well, what does it mean for blood to spell on
Speaker 4: the ground? If and that's that you first see that
Speaker 4: in the story of Cain and Abel, God said, Jehovah
Speaker 4: told Kane, your brother's blood cries out to me from
Speaker 4: the earth, meaning that there is something about blood hitting
Speaker 4: the earth that resonates in the spiritual realm. Now you
Speaker 4: understand the importance of blood, and why what the shedding
Speaker 4: of blood means? So all those principles, if you understand Genesis,
Speaker 4: like John said, everything else's commentary on Genesis. So if
Speaker 4: you understand the principles there and in our Bible, said
Speaker 4: our Jehovah Story Book Club, I spent two months on
Speaker 4: Genesis and job basically because if you get those, everything
Speaker 4: else falls into place. But if you don't, then you're
Speaker 4: gonna misunderstand God. And unfortunately we have as misunderstanding. God
Speaker 4: is rampant because we don't know his story. We look
Speaker 4: at him in the middle of the book and we
Speaker 4: see him doing all these things and punishing Israel and
Speaker 4: apocalyptic books like you know, Joel and so forth, where
Speaker 4: he's talking about punishing and you say, well, if you
Speaker 4: strive in the middle, Oh, well, God doesn't seem very nice.
Speaker 4: He seems like a really adventeful person. And that's what
Speaker 4: our impression of him that we get from our religions.
Speaker 4: But it's like if you Lord of the Rings, if
Speaker 4: you go to the middle of the Lord of the Rings, Frodo,
Speaker 4: what do you see Frodo doing? He has or he
Speaker 4: was wearing armor, he has a sword, he's climbing mountains
Speaker 4: and on a mission. Oh he's an adventurer. No, he's not.
Speaker 4: You go to the beginning. What's the principle. Frodo is
Speaker 4: this humble hobbit who just wants to shire to be safe.
Speaker 4: That's what he wants. So he in the middle of
Speaker 4: the book is what circumstances forced him to be. Come
Speaker 4: same thing with God. God just wants to hang out
Speaker 4: with us and swap stories and get to know us
Speaker 4: and learn and grow. The middle of the body of
Speaker 4: the book is what to hope I had to become
Speaker 4: because of the circumstances that we put him into. And
Speaker 4: if you understand that, if you understand the beginning and
Speaker 4: the very end, you've got the whole story. Everything in
Speaker 4: the middle is just like any story. What's every story
Speaker 4: set up? Conflict resolution. If you just focus on the conflict,
Speaker 4: you're not gonna get it. Focus on the setup and
Speaker 4: the resolution. Everything else in between is just how you
Speaker 4: get from one to the other.
Speaker 3: Man. That was brilliant, because my biggest issue is is
Speaker 3: people who go, I'm gonna read the Gospels and then
Speaker 3: consult people of that time during the Gospel times, and
Speaker 3: I can tell you everything about Jesus and I what
Speaker 3: you just said, Like, okay, so you're just gonna go
Speaker 3: to the middle of the story read about froudo Oh,
Speaker 3: I can tell you everything about Froda. You don't have
Speaker 3: a clue. If you don't start from the start of
Speaker 3: this book, you really don't understand Jesus.
Speaker 2: That was awesome, and that's the that's no different than
Speaker 2: us right as everyday people. You have to understand the
Speaker 2: beginnings and not just the conflicts. You have to understand
Speaker 2: how we started, where we started at, as to who
Speaker 2: we are and what motivates us, what drives us to
Speaker 2: be the people that we are. Because you're not born
Speaker 2: with all that rage and conflict inside of you, right,
Speaker 2: and something pushed you to those circumstances.
Speaker 4: If you just talk to someone who are forty years
Speaker 4: old and you say, okay, now I know this person
Speaker 4: know you don't right, you know what they became, you
Speaker 4: don't know where they started.
Speaker 3: Well, I wanted to bring this all the way full circle. Then.
Speaker 3: So when I was working as a chemical engineer chemist,
Speaker 3: what I was doing was formulating products. So I was
Speaker 3: working on liquid tide, or I was working on pure x,
Speaker 3: and my job is to make the next and would
Speaker 3: they would come in there and just say, okay, here's
Speaker 3: the formula make the pures. And I used to always say,
Speaker 3: can I have like the last five formulas? Because I
Speaker 3: saw a product in my opinion like a person, and
Speaker 3: I said, this product isn't here because it's the best
Speaker 3: possible option. This product is here because it was an
Speaker 3: adjustment from the one before it, which was an adjustment
Speaker 3: from the one before it, which and what are those adjustments?
Speaker 3: We couldn't make this in the plant, so we had
Speaker 3: to use this different ingredient had nothing to do with
Speaker 3: how great it was. We lost the ability to have
Speaker 3: this ingredient. So we had to find a cheaper ingredient
Speaker 3: we had, and it's like I started looking at products
Speaker 3: like there's a progression of how they got here, this
Speaker 3: isn't the absolute, and what can I really do to
Speaker 3: move it forward? Then when I started understanding how the
Speaker 3: mind and brain worked, that I'd use that same thing
Speaker 3: for people. Just what you said, Janet, I was like, look,
Speaker 3: I don't care where you are right now, I need
Speaker 3: to know where you started. I used to always like
Speaker 3: to say to people when you were nine ten eleven,
Speaker 3: what was like your favorite thing to do? Like I
Speaker 3: just felt and this is pre sent after Poeny, but man,
Speaker 3: when we were nine ten eleven, we were being all
Speaker 3: ourselves and we didn't care, and what would what gave
Speaker 3: you energy? Where did you want to be? Because that
Speaker 3: gives me a clue into your motivation and your purpose
Speaker 3: and everything. And then I hear the rest of the
Speaker 3: story and I could just see that thing just getting
Speaker 3: beaten out of people, and so I totally agree, like
Speaker 3: that's we need to look at that when we're talking
Speaker 3: to people. Let's get the whole story of people, just
Speaker 3: like we should get the whole story of Jehovah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you can't help somebody unless you know like
Speaker 2: the whole person. And that's why, like I'm a brod,
Speaker 2: I have a problem with therapy people because they don't
Speaker 2: and they don't ask the right questions of people so right, and.
Speaker 4: They aren't looking at again, they aren't looking at the
Speaker 4: at the uniqueness or at the unconscious.
Speaker 3: They just look at the effects.
Speaker 4: You're depressed, Well, give you a pill, not looking at
Speaker 4: what you're depressed because you're unconscious.
Speaker 3: It's draining you. Why is it draining you?
Speaker 4: And if you go there, then you can truly understand
Speaker 4: what they're going through and how to really help them,
Speaker 4: because it's not you're not depressed because you're suddenly lacking
Speaker 4: trasodone in your diet something else and.
Speaker 2: It and it goes back to the to the beginning
Speaker 2: of our conversation with the habitual nature of stuff, because
Speaker 2: you label them as depressed, you wrote them a prescription
Speaker 2: for a pill, and then you revisit what it is
Speaker 2: that happens to them in between visits that's making them depressed,
Speaker 2: like they lost their job or they have to move
Speaker 2: or whatever. But they still have not got under that
Speaker 2: outer shell for graduating that depressive behavior. They're literally keeping
Speaker 2: you at the same level and that same loop because
Speaker 2: of that habitualization.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was saying, Okay, they're moving, they're depressed because
Speaker 4: they're moving. Why some people get excited when they move.
Speaker 4: So there's something in the past. Did you move around
Speaker 4: a lot as a child? Did that make you feel uncomfortable?
Speaker 4: That that make you feel rejected or insecure? That's getting down to.
Speaker 3: The root of it.
Speaker 2: Yep. So gentlemen, always a pleasure. Thank you for spending
Speaker 2: time with me. I could literally do shows with you
Speaker 2: all diamond be super duper happy. So ed, where can
Speaker 2: they find you at?
Speaker 4: Sure, you can find most of my legacy materials at
Speaker 4: Faith Byreason dot net. If you are interested in the
Speaker 4: Bible study that we've been talking about, that's on my Patreon.
Speaker 4: You have to go to patreon dot com slash.
Speaker 3: Faith by Reason.
Speaker 4: That's where all my bonus content and all everything I do.
Speaker 4: I released it there first, and you can be a
Speaker 4: part of that monthly Bible study. Actually you get notes
Speaker 4: every week, you get access to some really great resource
Speaker 4: tools that will help you through it. That will let
Speaker 4: just read the Bible in as John said, in chronological order.
Speaker 4: And it's one hour a month we go over it
Speaker 4: and we have Q and a's and it's it's really amazing.
Speaker 4: It's changed people's lives, changed my life. I learned something
Speaker 4: new every time we go through it. So patreon dot
Speaker 4: com slash faith by Reason and hopefully next time we talk,
Speaker 4: I I'd love to talk with Hope, John and I
Speaker 4: talk to you about you know, triggering and the amygdala
Speaker 4: and things like that, because I think that would really
Speaker 4: help people understand their triggers and how to get over
Speaker 4: those triggers. Because we all get triggered in like the
Speaker 4: same areas and it has to do with our past
Speaker 4: and what triggered us then and how are amygdala. John
Speaker 4: will explain how that works and most importantly, how result
Speaker 4: how to dissolve those triggers so that you have a
Speaker 4: much healthier.
Speaker 3: Mind and brain.
Speaker 2: I'm all for that absolutely, So John, where can they
Speaker 2: find you at.
Speaker 3: At flowsts dot com. That's where we have our programs
Speaker 3: and everything. We have a blog on there. It's you know, basically,
Speaker 3: if you're trying to get out of a hole and
Speaker 3: improve your thought process, we have all these tools for you.
Speaker 2: And what about based book Instagram?
Speaker 3: Oh I'm I'm I'm actually on Twitter now, believe it
Speaker 3: or not. So I'm on Twitter at at modeling God
Speaker 3: it's all one word, so I have a lot of
Speaker 3: the lot of my stuff there where I'm talking about systems,
Speaker 3: thinking and and synthesis. So I really why I'm able
Speaker 3: to know all the stuff I know and why other
Speaker 3: people don't is I have this opposite approach. So actually,
Speaker 3: thanks for bringing that up. Twitter is really where I'm
Speaker 3: sharing a lot of my content. So it's yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: modeling good, dot com fantastic.
Speaker 2: So thank you again, gentlemen for spending time with me,
Speaker 2: so for me, for John, and for Ed. Thanks for
Speaker 2: tuning in. Hope you heard God's message today and we'll
Speaker 2: see you next time. Have a good one.