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for little Cougars in the pros. I want to talk

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relative athletics score. I want to talk NFL combine and

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how Jack Kelly compared to the field, how Chase Roberts

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compared to the field. And also I want to discuss,

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you know all the time, who's been the most athletic

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guys to come out of byu per their NFL combine

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creator the aggregator, the algorithmic initiator of the relative athletic score.

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We go. I can't leave platty on the like, can.

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Speaker 3: How the heck, are you fantasmic to be on.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, it's a combined season, which means we got

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to delve into the data with your platform, Kent. What

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is you know? What is relative athletics score? Give us

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a foundational approach for those that aren't familiar with your

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your metrics, your process, your algorithm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so a lotive athletic scores. It score has been

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around since twenty thirteen. We take all athletic testing from

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players at the pro day and at the Combine and

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their pro days, and we score it against their position

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group all time from nineteen eighty seven all the way

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to the player's draft year. We do everything on a

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scale of zero to ten, so it essentially works like percentile.

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When you're looking at the individual scores, you just kind

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of move the decimal place over one. We compile all

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those scores and create an average. The average is compared

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again to every player at that position group. We can

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put it on a zero to ten against. We can

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get a nice clean zero to ten athletics score for

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the players. It's all stop light color coded, so everything's red, yellow,

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or green. The intention is just meant to create a

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way to very easily under and how athletic a player

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Speaker 1: Where they are.

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Speaker 3: You can look at the scores and understand where they're percentileized.

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It's a really good way to just evaluate the relative

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athleticism of a player.

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Speaker 1: What have you learned about about this particular metric over

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the years, Like how long you been doing this, what

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is your background and what have you learned about this

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metric as it pertains to athleticism and eventual maybe productivity

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or athleticism on the football field. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think what people get wrong about it a lot

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is they look at raz and they think, well, that's

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that's like a determination of how good a player is,

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athletic talent only, and it's only using the metrics that

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athletic a guy is, but it doesn't tell you how

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good they are, And a lot of athletic traits aren't

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he barely played football. But if right Lions drafted a

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player out of BC UP in Canada a year or

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much more valuable tool because you can look at players

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who don't necessarily test the best, but you can still

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find a use form on the football field. Even with

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any of their poor tests, because if there's the test

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Who cares? It's like, it doesn't make me a better

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driver because I'm really good at finding the right radio station. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: You know, these are differentiator things, right, You're going to

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look at two maybe same similar players and productivity, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good way to use it. If

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you have a couple of players that are very similar

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in skill sets and you're trying to figure out which

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one you would prefer between them, it makes a good

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way to say, well, I think this guy has more upside.

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already seen. We can develop him pass where he is currently,

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whereas a player doesn't necessarily have that. Maybe they're relying

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on their field awareness to be able to do certain things.

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the same ceiling that you're looking at for the players.

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you speed, they're probably not gonna draft the guys that

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don't run fast, And if they do, it's going to

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Speaker 1: What's a good example. Who's a good example over the

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years of someone that's not all that athletic or just

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an average athlete, but a very very good NFL football player.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's always players like that. And that's another thing

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stuff like relative athletic scores not to find only the

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good players, because you want to find those diamonds in

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Speaker 1: Two.

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Speaker 3: One of the best ones in the NFL right this

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moment is a BYU player, which is Puka. Google only

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had a five point one to eight. We know that

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there's a possibility he was injured during the pre draft process.

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I wasn't ever able to confirm that, but I heard

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it from a couple of different people. But even so,

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his score wasn't the greatest, and he's one of the

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best wide receivers in the NFL when he's healthy. That

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happens quite often at the wide receiver position because there's

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so many different ways to win at the wide receiver position.

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a power runner doesn't necessarily need all those timing drills

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's very intriguing. I think bringing up Pooka

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is a valid a valid example. All right, Well, let's

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talk relative athletics score now, as it pretends to be

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yu who are all time like the best testers from BYU, right,

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the best athletes in a combine setting coming out of

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Brigham Young University with your historic your combine and your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I started looking into that a little bit.

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the player's draft year, and there is an all time score,

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so we can compare things side by side. So I

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wanted to use that score. It's not necessarily the player's

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regular res but the all time score. The highest score

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of all time for BYU was Scott Young from two

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thousand and five. Even way back then, still tested like

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a boss, and that score holds up over time. More recently,

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Chanden Herring, Brady Christensen, Blake Freeland. A lot of offensive

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linemen come out of YU that have really good athletic testing,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Ziggyanta is probably one of the most well known guys.

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to his advantage. He was very raw from a coaching

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perspective when he was first picked up in the draft,

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but a player that had tons and tons of athleticism.

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Fred Warner had a nine point seven three. We're not

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even past nine point seven three, Like this is the

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top ten guys in the ninety seventh percentile. For some

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of these guys, Taysom Hill obviously lots of athletic talent

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been able to produce a lot of really athletic players

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in like the percentile or just because traditionally Byu is

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oh wait, no, these guys are like the best of

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the best. This is the lead of the elite. Do

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they have a branding problem with the athletes they're producing

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the NFL to get that reputation right because the fans

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do the on field product. The diehards like myself, we

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we love following the numbers. All that stuff really hits

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home for us. For most people, they want to see

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those wins and they want to see the players perform

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really focus on the professional aspect as much as they

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do developing the players to be as good of football

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players in college as they can be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to like have a same similar scheme

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to run in college with like the supporting casts that

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are around some of these high profile players or highly

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athletic players. To make that transition in a linear fashion

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to a same simbilar scheme in the National Football League,

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that's very difficult to do, Right, That's a tough thing

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to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that level of talent comes and hit you like

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a ton of bricks, no.

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Speaker 1: Doubt about it. Kent Lee platty math bomb on X.

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You had to follow him. He has created the relative

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athletics who are aggregating all of the pro days, all

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of the combines, putting a grade to the athleticism of

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everybody that has ever participated in a combine. Why you

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had a couple of guys s out out to the

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Indianapolition Day and the Combine. Jack Kelly had him shelf today.

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Let's break down who's performance. What stood out to you

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about Jack Kelly.

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Speaker 3: Kelly I think scored as the third highest linebacker at

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the combine. He had a nine point eighty one RIS

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and that's with almost all of the drills. He didn't

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do the bench, but he did everything else. He did

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the agility drills. Almost nobody does the agility drills of

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the combine anymore. They do them very late in the process,

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right before they do drills, and a lot of players

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just skip the agility drills to do the on field

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drills because that's where the coaches are looking, that's what

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the people who are going to draft them are paying

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attention to. The NFL really does have a scheduling problem

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with their combine. But even then, he did pretty well

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at those agility drills. He had a ninety first percentile

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shuttle and he had a seventieth percentile cone, which is

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very good for both of those. And the cone was

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actually his worst score at seventieth percentile. Everything else he

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tested in was above seventy, above eightieth percent of they're

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all in that green so they're all in that elite

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range that we consider for each of the TEP his

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explosive drills, which are really big for a lot of

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coaches for linebackers. He had ninety third percentile broad with

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a ten foot five broad. He had a thirty seven

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inch vertical, which is a ninetieth percentile score, and he

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ran a four or five seven in the forty, which

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is phenomenal for a linebacker. So all those athletic traits

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that you want he was able to pull out. I'm

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pretty sure he's the highest rated player from BYU this year.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: He's great. Kind of in the mid round. Should see

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him going in like the fourth or fifth round. Probably

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he could sneak into Day two, but he's probably going

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to go early Day three.

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Speaker 1: Love that breakdown. You know, you wonder if he's going

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to just stand on all those times or and just

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do field work at his pro day? What would you do?

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I mean, it doesn't look like he's really got to

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prove himself athletically. He's already in the top percentile of athleticism.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if any of the coaches, I'm not sure if

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people are concerned about it. If any coaches have any

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issues with strength, they're going to want to see his bench.

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They're going to want to see what he can put up.

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He has pretty arms compared to linebackers these days, so

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the bens shouldn't be that much of an issue. Shorter arms,

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you tend to bench a lot easier. Just from a

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physics perspective, you know, you don't have to worry about

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going up the side. Yeah, but you know he's I

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would expect him to stand all his times. I wouldn't

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expect him to rerun anything. He might rerun that cone,

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I don't. I don't know if he's going to be

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as that, but it's plenty good enough. But you know

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how these guys are, they're super competitive. The same thing

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is true probably with his explosion drills, even though they're

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his best drills. I would bet that he tries them again,

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just because a lot of guys really want to try

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to up one up themselves.

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Speaker 1: Chase Roberts also went out to the NFL Combine. He's

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got great size for a wide receiver. How did he

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tested out? Per Relative Athletics score?

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Speaker 3: He was actually one of the lower rated wide receivers

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in this class. At the combine in terms of athletic testing,

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but that doesn't say a lot because this this combine

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is kind of a weird one. We had a fewer

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people tested this combine than any of the other ones.

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A lot of people want to say that the trend

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it's not really this year is just kind.

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Speaker 1: Of a weird one.

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Speaker 3: The thing that a lot of people are going to

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point to is this forty yard dash time you're in

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a forced explore. That's not very good. I think what

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people need to realize, though, is that's also not very bad.

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Like that's not a terrible time. It's not great. But

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he's a bigger wide receiver, so he has other traits

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that that teams are going to value, that teams are

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gonna want. The speed's not that big of a concern.

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His explosion drills were really good. Both of those were

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above eightieth percentile. When you have a bigger wide receiver,

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that's very important. You want a guy who can have

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some burst and be a little bit explosive. He compares

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very favorably to Kean Coleman, who came out a couple

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of years ago who said some mixed success in the NFL,

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but that type of receiver, and teams are always looking

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for guys like that, guys that they can put up

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and go up and get some footballs. I think he

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has a role in the NFL. He's probably looking at

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a later Day three projection. I don't think the speed

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hurt him at all. I think that that just kind

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of validates what you see on tape with him. He's

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not a burner, But what's really going to hurt him

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is actually his linked the same problem that we had

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with Jack. Kelly's arms just aren't very long. When you

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have a bigger receiver, you want them to be as

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lengthy as possible to maximize that advantage that their size

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gives them. But if you have it has good enough

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route running ability, if he shows good enough strength at

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the line, I don't think that's much of a limiting

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factor either. I think this is still a plenty athletic player.

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He ended up with a seven point eighty one overall

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so far, still has the agility drills in the bench

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to do. I'd expect them to do the agility drills.

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A lot of players that are bigger wide receivers, coaches

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tend to want them. Skill's got to run the agilities

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to see if it's a weakness. Wide receivers almost always

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skipped the bench, so I wouldn't expect to see him

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do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you brought up Keenan Coleman six four, two

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fifteen out of Florida State. He was the second round pick,

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thirty third overall. That's who your your athletic comp is for?

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Chase Roberts.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's the one.

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Speaker 1: What about Jack Kelly? Who did you mention? I don't

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know if you did mention who's your player comp for

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Jack Kelly?

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Speaker 3: I didn't, but I did have a good one for

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him too. He comes very closely to Drew Drew Tranquill,

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even even right up to where his draft projection is.

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Frankle was taken in the fourth round. He's been a

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pretty good role player in the NFL. He's a good linebacker,

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he's a starter. He plays really well. He's not a superstar,

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but he's a good enough playayer. He gets plenty of

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playing time. He's been on the Chargers and the Chiefs.

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He's probably going to continue playing one of those guys

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that's just going to grind out a really nice, productive

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NFL career. And I think that Kelly's going to face

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the same kind of road to the NFL to convincing

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teams that he has that value. He's just got to

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grind it out and show that he can be a

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reliable player on the field. Coverage is always going to

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come up, especially when you have speed, which he does.

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If he can show himself to be a reliable coverage linebacker,

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then then teams are going to put him on the

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football field because there's there's downs that you want guys

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like that. If he shows that his pursuitabilities are good enough,

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he's going to be on the field for the running

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drills a bit more limited in that in previous years,

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the run game is coming back like a mounting storm.

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So maybe maybe that's going to be even more favorable

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if that's his skill set. But I think that he's

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got a role in the NFL. I think that's why

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he's projected kind of in that that early days three

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range because teams know that he has that ability special

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teams abilities in another area that guys like this can

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shine in, and I don't think there's gonna be much

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of a concern to that. You get a linebacker that

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can run a four to five seven, that's a gunner

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right up front. You can throw him right at there

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and have him gun You can have him take guys

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out very easily. He's two forty. That's gonna hurt run

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of the that scene.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, let's go back to the Puka conversation and

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some of these VAYU players that are in the NFL.

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Is there anything in his like athletics score that that

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would tell you, hey, this guy is going to be

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a diamond in the rough When McVeigh and his staff

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ended up drafting him in the slot that they didn't

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like from a return on investment, for the quality and

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what they got in productivity, it's probably the best ROI

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in in that draft from that class, from where they

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got when they paid for them. It's not even close.

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So is there anything in the athletics score that you're like, Okay,

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like this was you could tell possibly. I mean, he

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was a productive college player, but he wasn't like absurdly

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politnik off type of productivity, you know, So I'm like, Okay,

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is there anything there that you're like, Okay, this is

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a good indicator of a great football player, productive football player,

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even though he didn't test out in the elite to

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great level.

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Speaker 3: There really wasn't, and you know, we have guys like

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Cooper Cup who actually test. His overall score was in

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that same kind of right around five range. But Cupp

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had that an elite test. He had an area that

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he was elite in from a testing standpoint, and he

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also used that very widely on the field, So making

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that projection was a lot easier when you're looking at

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the athletic traits and then comparing it to the on

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field ability. But Poopa didn't really have that. Excuse me.

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Everything was kind of mediocre. His explosion girls were very

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middle ground. He had a thirty seven percentile vert and

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a sixty third percentile broad, so they average out to

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about five. His forty yard dash was four five six,

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which is just barely above bare average for a wide receiver,

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so not very great there, and his agility drills were

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below average for each of them. His cone was very bad.

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He had seven point three to two cone, which is

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only sixteen percentile. So he didn't have any areas that

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he stood out in any meaningful way from an athletic perspective.

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I think when you're looking at a player like that,

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you're relying almost exclusively on the tape. When you're looking

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at the testing for Puka, you're really just looking at

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a guy who doesn't have enough. It doesn't have anything

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that's a significant weakness. His agility drills might be if

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that's something that you really wanted from him as a player,

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but his explosion drills not being fantastic. That's not a

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green flag, but it's not really a red flag either.

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Same thing with his speed. We know that Puka is

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not a burner. He's not one of those super fast guys.

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He's never has been. So having a middle of the ground,

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a middle of the round speed isn't a big deal

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because that's not where he excels anyway. So it's not

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a limitation. So it's more that it isn't telling you

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anything negative than it is telling you something positive that

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you want to jump on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I look at some of these guys like Tyler

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Alzier and kyros Toni. They just got they just got

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contracts right they they're in They they were maybe drafted

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a little bit later in their draft class, but they've

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been productive and they're they're great football players. Had how

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did Tyler and Kiris specifically test out coming out of

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their pro days? Their combine performances.

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Speaker 3: Well, Algier was like one of my one of my guys,

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and then you know, we talked about that when he

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came out. This is the guy that I really really liked,

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and I was super excited for him, and he actually tested,

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uh in a way that you don't usually see, and

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when you do, it's it's a productive profile. So he

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didn't have a profile of some elite, top tier athlete,

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but he did have a very similar profile to a

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lot of very productive NFL running backs, guys that don't

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have that elite speed, but they excel in other areas

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and they're able to use that in in a productive way.

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You know, it was really exciting to watch him actually

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find that NFL success because because he projected in such

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a way and we could actually see it. Uh, see

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him get picked up again for another contract is really

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exciting because he get to keep seeing it. Who is

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the other one that you had asked.

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Speaker 1: About, kyrist So there's tylarier than Kyris.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just got signed too, that's right, Yeah, yeah,

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and earlier to stay right Yep. His was a seven

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point Yeah, his was a seven point two two as

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a defensive tackle. I'm pulling it up right now. I

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didn't have that one prepared.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I went off because of all the pre agent

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news that just occurred.

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Speaker 3: That happens. Yeah, seven point two is fine. So from

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an overall perspective, you're you're not looking at anything that's

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super negative. This looks to me like a nose tackle profile.

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He's got got really good weight, really good bench. His

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ten yards split's good, his broad's good. Those are all

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all big nose tackle indicators. Didn't have very long arms,

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which would generally be a ding against the nose tackle. This,

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it looks from an athletics standpoint like a productive run

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defender type of profile. Somebody that's not necessarily going to

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be great side to side, but if you want them

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to take up space or barrel forward, you're going to

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be able to get that. I haven't watched enough of

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them to be able to say if that's exactly how

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he plays. But from an athletic perspective, there's a role

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for guys like this. There's a productive role for guys

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like this. You can find a way to use them

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very easily.

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Speaker 1: Love it can't appreciate our time. As always, we invite everyone,

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what's the best way to support, to you what you do,

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how you do it. For all of our listeners, we

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always invite everyone to check out the website.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the website is our as dot football. You can

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go out and look at any player from nineteen eighty

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seven to today, where we just passed over thirty thousand

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players on the website. I think twenty twenty six thousand.

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I think of them have scovers. A bunch of them

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don't cause they don't test. You can check out my

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website there, that's the best way.

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Speaker 1: To do it.

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Speaker 3: You can also check me out on Twitter at math bomb,

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and I'm over on blue Sky as well also as

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math Bone, so I'm very easily accessible. I'm a little

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bit less active this year than I am most years.

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I'm still going to be doing all the scores and

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putting out all the work. I just won't be quite

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as active on the socials. But social media and the

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website are the best ways of support, and I do

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it every year. Been doing this for fourteen years now,

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going on fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Do fantastic. You need to hire an intern just to

533
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churn out all the content on social media. That's the

534
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next step, Matt, Come on, let's go baby, we need

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that social media content.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's always been my mistake because I always take

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on interns to like teach them coding and try to

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find good ways to help them advance themselves in the

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metrics field. But I really should have been working on

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the social stuff.

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Speaker 1: Just get just hired to do the social stuff. Just

542
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churn it out, copy and paste it out there. Man,

543
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that's what you need to put it out to the

544
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masses and get people subscribing to your content. You did

545
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great work. A couple of guys to look out for

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if they're pro days from BYU, so that you know.

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I think Tanner Wall's going to test out extremely well.

548
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Actually talent Alfrey could test out well. Moriy Bomba I

549
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think is gonna kill it in the forty. This guy

550
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is a blazer. I think he's gonna find himself on

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special teams. Maury Bomba is a guy to look out for.

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And then I think Isaiah Jada as well as gonna

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test out really well. Good athlete, really good ath To

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keep an eye on those guys when they pop up

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for their pro days.

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Speaker 3: We'll do for sure, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, can't leave platty ladies and gentlemen. We appreciate you,

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thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on man, appreciate you all right.

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Speaker 1: The math bomb can't leave platty. We'll call that a segment,

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Kyler Casper a little bit better? How about a player profile?

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Kyler Casper six foot six, two twenty transfer from Oregon.

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Originally a four slash five star recruit coming out of

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looking to make some hay, looking to get some plays