1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: This is pet Life Radio. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:24,519 Speaker 2: Let's talk pets. We are here live here on cut 3 00:00:24,519 --> 00:00:27,399 Life Radio and Instagram. Here for you, here for your pets. 4 00:00:27,519 --> 00:00:30,839 You know the drill, the any questions, ask away. I 5 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,240 started check with my sister because sometimes I forget did 6 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,759 we cover it, did not cover it? So sometimes people 7 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,240 sady things during the week is sayh my god, you 8 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,240 got to cover that on the show, and I don't 9 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,799 remember all the time if I did so, Hello, Sharon, 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,560 how you doing so? I hope you got the prescription 11 00:00:46,679 --> 00:00:48,280 I called it in. I hope you pick it up. 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,479 And anyway, so how to get ahold of me? Very easy? Well, 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,920 if you're here on Instagram, just start typing away because 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,240 I see you. I'm trying to wave everybody I can. 15 00:00:57,799 --> 00:00:59,679 And if not, if you want to hear in pet 16 00:00:59,719 --> 00:01:02,560 Life Rado, you could just either join me here just 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,560 ask away, ask questions. It comes to me can also 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,319 eight seven seven three eight five eight eight A two 19 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:10,040 once again eight seven seven three eight five eight eight 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,799 A two cat snippers. Hello, and what's great? Now? My 21 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:17,879 sister is here saying hi. Already said hi to me, 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,599 but someone else said hi to Effity, so now she's 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,280 using me on our show here to talk to other people, 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,959 which is fine. Love it. The more engagement the better, 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,319 the more likely we're gonna get some really good questions. 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,480 Subject matter I could always use some help when it 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,519 comes to that. Don't think that averny weird problem that 28 00:01:35,599 --> 00:01:38,159 you have, you're the only one that has this weird problem. 29 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,760 It's not the case, because trust me, there's gonna be 30 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:42,640 a lot of people that have a lot of pet 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,840 parents have the same things. Which is why interestingly, one 32 00:01:45,879 --> 00:01:47,799 of the things here's a good if a dog is 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,599 acting normal but throw up several times but still eight breakfast, 34 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,879 should you worry? So that's actually a great question. Thanks 35 00:01:53,879 --> 00:01:57,319 for divicate Elouise Pet Rescue. And that is that there 36 00:01:57,359 --> 00:01:59,799 are so many reasons for vomiting. There are so many 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,599 us for diarrhea, especially diarrhea with blood, so the other 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,959 ones that people freak out. And one thing I like 39 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,599 about in general telemedicine air vet is that sometimes just 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,280 seeing the dog, watching the dog at work, it is 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,879 something that it takes a lot of the pressure of it 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,439 because if a dog even is vomiting, if they're really sick, 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,319 really sick, then you're going to see a dog that's 44 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:26,960 just not happy, is lethargic, is not eating, is maybe 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,680 having diarrhea as well, is sluggish, then I'm concerned. But 46 00:02:30,719 --> 00:02:33,080 if the dog is not eating or is vomiting, all right, 47 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,719 I'm gonnaive you a classic story in a minute. Is 48 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,479 but they're running around and they can't wait for the 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,520 next meal. Obviously they're not that sick. And so now 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,479 we have to then couple of things. Number one is 51 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,360 determine was it vomiting, was it regurditation? In other words, 52 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:51,000 what breed is the dog? How long after eating, was 53 00:02:51,039 --> 00:02:54,120 it preceded by up chucking or just all of a 54 00:02:54,159 --> 00:02:56,800 sudden they open them out back and this yellow bile 55 00:02:56,879 --> 00:02:59,479 comes out. So this is all really really stuff is 56 00:02:59,479 --> 00:03:03,360 so important important, So anyway, cat snappers are going to 57 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,400 talk about that in a minute. So this is why 58 00:03:05,439 --> 00:03:07,840 it's important to see the dog. So chances are if 59 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,560 I have a dog that's happy, alert, playful, active, and eating, 60 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:12,240 what I'm gonna do is I'm going to assume this 61 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:16,599 when something comes on suddenly but really not affecting how 62 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,719 sick the dog is, then I'm looking at some insult, 63 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,319 something happened, something eaten that. So I'm not that worried 64 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:26,800 at least yet. So I would recommend is hold off 65 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:32,199 on food even water. Once a stomach goes through vomiting. Okay, 66 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,199 so that stomach is almost like taking a wet rag 67 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,000 and ringing it out. That's what the inside of that 68 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:40,039 stomach looks like. So anything that goes into that stomach, 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,840 even something is benign as water, might make them vomit again. 70 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,599 So what I recommend always is to hold off on food. 71 00:03:47,639 --> 00:03:50,719 Now maybe water. Obviously water is important. So what I 72 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:53,639 would do is give them some ice cubes. Take about 73 00:03:53,639 --> 00:03:56,199 four or five ice cubes, put them in an empty 74 00:03:56,199 --> 00:03:59,000 water bowl, and as the ice melts, they can go 75 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,840 up to it and drink border. But they can't ingest 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,199 an entire a large volume at once, something that's going 77 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,800 to stretch that stomach. Let them wait anywhere from twelve 78 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,400 to twenty four hours, and then then you can go 79 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:11,879 ahead and try a little bit of food. A little 80 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:14,319 bit of food. Let them eat maybe a couple of bites. 81 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:16,079 They keep it down, maybe an hour later a little 82 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,079 bit more, and slowly work them up. I was involved 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,240 a case years ago, and the dog was apparently diagnosed 84 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,439 by another veterinarian name I'm not going to give any names, 85 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,279 and they wanted to run over one thousand dollars worth 86 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,279 of testing for this little dog that was vomiting. So 87 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,920 I'm looking at this dog comes into my office. I 88 00:04:36,959 --> 00:04:39,600 could barely even get it to sit still for a second. 89 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,879 So now I start asking questions. Good physicisam, and a 90 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,000 good history is one of the most important things you 91 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,759 can have done. Don't let it better in air and 92 00:04:48,759 --> 00:04:52,000 based on just a symptom. Say okay, there's what we 93 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,639 have to do. Put your hands on the dog, listen 94 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,199 to it, feel it. Get a really thorough history. What 95 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,800 is it, When is it? How long did it go? 96 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:02,800 Really get a th history. That's very important. So as 97 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,560 I'm getting his history, what is it? It wasn't even vomiting. 98 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:09,160 It wasn't even it was regurgitation. What was the breed? 99 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,800 A friend's bulldog? Duh. They do this a lot. So 100 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,519 I'm watching this dog and I said, no, this is regurgitation. 101 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,720 This is probably a esophagel or gastric reflux. And it 102 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,720 causes when does it happen worse? Late night, early morning? Ah, 103 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,879 beautiful history. That is supporting. When my hunch was so, 104 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,720 we said no testing, No, testing. I know people think 105 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:34,600 I'm crazy. Maybe I am. No testing, not yet anyway, 106 00:05:34,879 --> 00:05:37,879 So let's try this first. Remember my kiss roll, keep 107 00:05:37,879 --> 00:05:40,319 it simple, stupid, I'm going to keep it simple. So 108 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,319 we said, Okay, I want you to take about a 109 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,399 third to a quarter of dinner, set it aside, and 110 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:49,319 feed it to the dog, like maybe at ten thirty eleven, 111 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,279 ten to fifteen minutes before you go to bed. Okay, Now, 112 00:05:52,319 --> 00:05:55,480 if that alone doesn't work, be about fifteen minutes before that, 113 00:05:55,759 --> 00:05:57,639 I'll have you give half of a pepsid or half 114 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,600 of a private sec Well guess what, we never eve 115 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:02,720 got some private set. Just the late night snack solved 116 00:06:02,759 --> 00:06:06,879 the problem. No testing, no very easy. Get a history. 117 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,720 Don't let your doctors, whoever they are. That's why I 118 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,199 am so concerned about emergency clinics. If you rush to 119 00:06:13,199 --> 00:06:15,680 an emergency for that which is not emergency. By the way, 120 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,560 in my opinion, ninety five percent of emergencies are not. 121 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,040 But you go in there and you have often a young, 122 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:27,920 inexperienced doctor. They hear vomiting and they freak and they 123 00:06:27,959 --> 00:06:30,920 start testing and X rays and come on, no, no, no, no no, 124 00:06:31,399 --> 00:06:33,920 get a good thorough history, do a good exam. Find 125 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:36,279 out exactly what's coming up, when it's coming up? How 126 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,439 long after eating? Is it slowing the dog down? To 127 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,680 the dog wait for its next meal? No, want to 128 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,360 see you right away. You know it's not serious. So anyway, 129 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,759 this is what I recommend, is making sure that it 130 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:51,480 may be nothing. So with this dog who's vomiting but 131 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,160 running around, try those things first. First of all, what's 132 00:06:54,199 --> 00:06:57,000 coming up? How long after eating is the dog still 133 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,199 can't wait for its next meal? Then you know it's 134 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:04,560 probably not very serious. Most likely eight something that affected. Again, 135 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,920 don't jump, don't jump to the expensive testing and worrying. 136 00:07:08,959 --> 00:07:11,120 Don't worry. Okay, let me just get some wave here. Now, 137 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,439 let's go back to some questions ivdd oh my god, 138 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,360 too many good questions. We'll get to y'all all right, 139 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:20,160 so ah, there we go themphone he said, unwhited to 140 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,040 do chemo. No, it's not unwhite to do chemo. Yes, 141 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,800 preddison is good, but there are some really mild chemo 142 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,000 agents that might help the Mustine for one, vin Christine 143 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,600 for another. So I mean predisone is certainly part of 144 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,920 the protocol. I would rely on just bread. I would 145 00:07:37,959 --> 00:07:40,360 want to hit it a little harder again, depending on 146 00:07:40,399 --> 00:07:43,759 so many other factors. What's the cat's age, okay, how 147 00:07:43,839 --> 00:07:46,439 large are the lymphos or they die, how were they diagnosed, 148 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,399 were they truly diagnosed with And you can also do 149 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,680 something where they can evaluate the testing and to see 150 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,879 whether it's his B cell or T cell. B is bad, 151 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,839 tea is terrible. So that also not only helps determine 152 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,800 how aggressive you want to be with chemo, but also 153 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,279 gives you a better idea of the prognosis. So there 154 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:11,399 are some additional testing that can be run on samples 155 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,800 you may need to take. Have your doctor take another 156 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:18,160 sample and have them determine if they can actually do 157 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,959 a detailed evaluation of the type of mphoma. And then 158 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:26,720 also as a prognosticating measure, you might want to get 159 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,120 some samples, take maybe an ultrasound, maybe get a sample 160 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,200 of liver, maybe get a sample of spleen. And it's 161 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,519 called you want to have a better idea, it's called 162 00:08:36,639 --> 00:08:40,879 staging the cancer. So if the lungs are clear and 163 00:08:40,879 --> 00:08:43,879 the spleen and liver are clear, and it's a B cell, 164 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,600 then I would say you're a prognosis. It's net Well, 165 00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:49,279 you're never going to cure it, but you can really 166 00:08:49,279 --> 00:08:51,519 slow down a lot. Even if it's t cell, you 167 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,440 might want to get more aggressive with the chemo. So 168 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,360 I would recommend if your veterinarian is not comfortable doing this, 169 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,120 get a consult with a board certified veter ancologist. And 170 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,840 where you are. You're here in LA, there are a 171 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,919 lot of them. You can always reach out to me 172 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,519 and I'll give us some names. But it's not an 173 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,519 instant death sentence. But I would be a little bit 174 00:09:08,519 --> 00:09:12,240 more aggressive than just pregnant, own prendnic salona a cat. 175 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,799 All right, so we go back. Does glukosamine really make 176 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:18,840 a difference to every old dog? Yes, First of all, 177 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:22,000 it's a supplement and we don't know what effect it's 178 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,279 going to have. How dogs react differently, so I look 179 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,399 at it differently. Is it harmful, No, it's not. So 180 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,279 if it's not harmful and it may help capital em 181 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,200 it may help, go for it. You have nothing to lose. 182 00:09:34,759 --> 00:09:36,960 And so I would say if a dog, an older 183 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,360 dog that is already not on some sort of joint supplement, 184 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,360 I would highly recommend it. Now interesting not tell you 185 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,759 a study. There's a study done years ago using evaluating 186 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,039 the joint response via X ray, which is a little 187 00:09:51,039 --> 00:09:55,639 bit touchy. They did not find any advantage on X 188 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,919 ray on these dogs that were given glucosamine. However, what 189 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,039 they didn't do be better, but it was too expensive 190 00:10:02,039 --> 00:10:05,120 for the study is to do MRIs or cts. That 191 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:07,919 would have given a much better idea of what the 192 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,960 problem is. So but interestingly, on that study where they 193 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,000 took X rays, they also gave questionnaires to the owners 194 00:10:15,399 --> 00:10:18,279 to fill out about how the dog is doing. So 195 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,080 maybe to have it could have been a placebo effect. 196 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,519 Who knows, But the vast majority seventy plus percent of 197 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,639 pet parents who were giving their dogs lukosamine, ANDROID and 198 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,240 MSM actually felt their dogs were doing better. So it 199 00:10:34,279 --> 00:10:37,679 may not show radiographically, but who cares about the radiograph? 200 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,200 Does the dog feel better? Is it making him more energetic? 201 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,279 Is it more mobile? Is he getting up faster? Is 202 00:10:44,279 --> 00:10:46,120 he more willing to go out for a walk. That's 203 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,840 all we care about is pet parents. So in my opinion, 204 00:10:49,159 --> 00:10:50,480 now you go for it. If you have a two 205 00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:52,759 year old dog the same leg shakes, what is it? 206 00:10:52,759 --> 00:10:56,120 It could be what we call muscle fatigue, It could 207 00:10:56,159 --> 00:10:59,000 be some sort of just a muscle twitch. When does 208 00:10:59,039 --> 00:11:01,320 it happen? I will tell you that I've seen this, 209 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,360 and I've done tests and everything comes back normal, and 210 00:11:05,399 --> 00:11:07,759 the dog and every other gog is normal. It just 211 00:11:07,879 --> 00:11:10,679 might be even if it's only one leg, it could 212 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,080 be something with the muscle of that leg. But maybe 213 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:17,039 you can try something like methacarbamol, which is a muscle relaxant. 214 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,519 But usually it's like muscle fisiculations because the muscle fatigue. 215 00:11:21,759 --> 00:11:24,440 Why I don't know, but I'm not too worried about it. 216 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,399 Elderly cat has a small sell them, okay, So if 217 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:29,519 it's small, sell them foma elderly cat. If in doubt, 218 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:32,080 and if it was not stage, I would stage at first, 219 00:11:32,519 --> 00:11:34,240 and then I would I mean, certainly you could do 220 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,080 pregnice alone. Pregnice alone, remember a cat is pregnice salone, 221 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,200 not prednice sown important. But I would still say something 222 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,200 like there are some very mild, even oral medications that 223 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,159 you can use along with pregnice alone that might be helpful. 224 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,399 Autoimmune disease is bethany. So yes, dogs can get autoimmune diseases, 225 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,559 and the most common one that we see is autoimmune 226 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,840 hemolytic anemia and we also see the skin diseases like 227 00:12:01,879 --> 00:12:07,200 Pemphigus vulgaris, Pemphigus foliaceous. You can also get colleenose so, 228 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,240 which is also a form of an autoimmune disease, discoid lupus. 229 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:16,840 These are all diseases that dogs can get. They are controllable, treatable, 230 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,039 sometimes treatable. It may never go away completely, but the 231 00:12:21,039 --> 00:12:24,519 next spout may never happen. For example, automine hemolytic ema. 232 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:30,440 When we get autoimmune thrombocytopenia, it's rarely primary. So when 233 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,320 you have AITP autoimmune thrombods, well, that's where the platelet 234 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,279 count gets very low because the body eats up its 235 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,639 platelets just like it does eat up the red cells. 236 00:12:39,799 --> 00:12:45,159 With autoimmune hemolytic anemia or immune mediated thrombocidepenia or SO, 237 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:50,440 these are all IMHA immune mediatd heumolinic anemia or AIHA 238 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,960 so autoimmune humilic anemia just different terms for the same disease. Anyway, 239 00:12:55,279 --> 00:12:57,960 we put them on high dose of iminosuppressants, sometimes just 240 00:12:58,039 --> 00:13:02,320 high dose steroids. Sometimes is a thigh sometimes cyclosporine, and 241 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,960 again you work with your veterinarian. They are controllable. I've 242 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,000 had many cases over the years aiha or imaja, and 243 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,240 we got it under control. It never came back. So 244 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,919 sometimes when there's some sort of immune stimulation, the body 245 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,399 goes wild and it starts not only attacking what it 246 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,399 was attacking in the first place because of a good 247 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:25,360 immune system. The immune system got too good and started 248 00:13:25,399 --> 00:13:28,039 attacking the dog. And we see this a lot of 249 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:31,519 times with the pemphigus cases. Now with those, again it 250 00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:35,559 is controllable, maybe treatable, and you need to get a 251 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:40,039 diagnosis first. So skin biopsies are very important. And when 252 00:13:40,039 --> 00:13:43,279 you're doing the skin biopsy, it helps the pathologist to 253 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:46,559 get the biopsy right on the edge where you're getting 254 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,840 some normal tissue along with the abnormal tissue, and that 255 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,840 helps them get to a better diagnosis. So we do 256 00:13:53,919 --> 00:13:57,360 what's called a punch biopsy, and these dogs are doing 257 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,200 very well. Then you also have a muscle disease where 258 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:05,080 you have myocytis. So if you've seen them dogs usually 259 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:08,519 large breed dogs, and the head starts caving in on 260 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,200 both sides, that is also an immune mediad disease, and 261 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,039 there's some testing for that as well. If we used 262 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:17,759 to have to test by muscle biopsy. Now it could 263 00:14:17,759 --> 00:14:21,519 be tested with a blood test, so talk to your veterinarian. 264 00:14:21,679 --> 00:14:24,799 But that also is something that is controlling them. Now, 265 00:14:25,159 --> 00:14:26,879 just so you know, you want to catch it early 266 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,879 if you can, if you start seeing it happen, why 267 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,360 because you can never build the muscle back up, but 268 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:34,559 you can stop the process at where it is. So 269 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,720 these dogs are totally fine, but sometimes if left alone, 270 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:40,240 it gets so bad that they get to the point 271 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:45,440 where the muscles of mastigatory myocytis, those are the muscles 272 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,399 of mastication of chewing. The muscle gets destroyed. It becomes 273 00:14:49,399 --> 00:14:52,320 like a tension band and they can't open their mouths. 274 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:55,519 So if you see it happening, important to see your veterinarian, 275 00:14:55,919 --> 00:14:58,879 get a diagnosis as soon as possible, and to a 276 00:14:58,879 --> 00:15:01,559 man of body test. You can send it to a lab. 277 00:15:01,879 --> 00:15:04,759 They can make a diagnosis and start treating. Sooner the better, 278 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,440 and that will only help your dog. As you said, 279 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,600 it may not grow back, but it will be real good. 280 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,559 It seems unwise to do a chemo, so I mean 281 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:15,360 if it depends on the age of the cat. If 282 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,559 the cats is really old and you just want to 283 00:15:17,559 --> 00:15:22,000 do something, then one hundred percent. Prendice alone is better 284 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,159 than nothing. But I would look at little mustin, I 285 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,240 would look at some of the other oral medications that 286 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:29,320 can be used. It could help as well. So I 287 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,399 would say to speak to a veterinarian colonist. That would help. 288 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:35,840 If a dog gets bitten bleeding but not deep, what 289 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,480 you do, So that's a great question bends how bad 290 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,759 is bleeding. First of all, if it's a puncture, we 291 00:15:40,799 --> 00:15:44,039 don't want to sew punctures. So even if it's a 292 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,519 small cut, we don't tell we want to sew them. 293 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:48,519 We want to make sure that they're not getting infected, 294 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:51,759 because the most important thing is if you sew it 295 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,960 and there's still infection in the deeper layers, then you're 296 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,320 going to get a wicked abcess. So depending on how 297 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,159 large the gap is, how large the actual bite is, 298 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,480 how deep it is, all determines how you're going to control. 299 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:09,039 You're going to be very aggressive with flushing and putting 300 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,960 drains in and suturing, all right, But they have a 301 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:15,320 drain in there, so the drain can handle the oozing, 302 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:18,120 the infection of the abscess if it starts to abscess, 303 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:21,759 all right, or treating it more conservatively, So these are 304 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:25,320 manufacturs I don't typically like unless it's very large in 305 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,440 gaping to sow these small bite wounds. I like to 306 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,279 clean them well, soap and water. Maybe a nova sandwich 307 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:35,559 is a colorhexidine solution. Then we would have them compressed daily, 308 00:16:35,759 --> 00:16:39,080 put them on antibiotics, and let's see usually leasing clothes 309 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,039 on their own, as long as it's not too big. 310 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:44,759 So it's important to see a veterinarian and together. Depending 311 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:47,720 on how aggressive one needs to be, these things are off. 312 00:16:47,799 --> 00:16:50,320 I just had a bite wound two this week and 313 00:16:50,519 --> 00:16:53,000 I just left them alone. They're already healing fine. Even 314 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,440 I own bite wounds, I leave them alone. They heal 315 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,159 all right. Cause of a dog aggression in a group, 316 00:16:58,559 --> 00:17:01,440 does doggy dake? Last two days? It was an aggressional 317 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,879 teen dogs who know each other well, ah, okay, two 318 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,000 or puppies. So when you have this it's not necessarily. 319 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,400 First of all, it may not be male in a 320 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,279 male aggression, though puppies that aren't neutered yet, it could be. 321 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:15,400 I'd say it's a fight for dominance, it's a fight 322 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,039 for toys, it's a fight for food, or it's a 323 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:22,640 fight for another playmate. So if you have one such situation, 324 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,920 you may need to separate. For example, For example, there's 325 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,839 a something called pac mentality. I have five dogs. If 326 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,960 I walk them individually, they're not bad, especially three of 327 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,000 the five. Two of them are obnoxious, my little Frenchie 328 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:37,519 and my little Harry, which is my little terrier, probably 329 00:17:37,559 --> 00:17:40,440 one of my favorite. He gets nuts. But when I 330 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,440 walk Tommy, my big labrador, alone, he's fine. I walk 331 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,200 down the street to my friend's house who has a 332 00:17:45,319 --> 00:17:48,440 very big dog. They play great together. But when I 333 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,880 walk all five together, then that pac mentality kicks in 334 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,880 and they any other dog, it could be a half 335 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,160 a block away across the street, and they all of 336 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,960 a sudden start going nuts. Then my stupid little Frenchie, okay, 337 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,599 he gets so crazy. Then we get something called displaced aggression. 338 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,599 What does that mean? He really wants to go with 339 00:18:06,599 --> 00:18:09,000 that dog across the street. He's all worked up, he's 340 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:11,680 barking and yappen, And then Harry goes in for the 341 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,480 kill and he starts barking. Then Dwight starts to go 342 00:18:14,519 --> 00:18:17,319 after Harry. I mean, come on, really, they live together, 343 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,680 they sleep together, they love each other, but they get 344 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,160 so worked up, so you can't always predict when a 345 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,279 dog gets that worked up, how the behavior is going 346 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,279 to be. And then once there's an aggression, by the way, 347 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,119 between two dogs and now if they say they know 348 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,160 each other, well two of them are puppies, well, if 349 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,960 that happens, then now they have to get out of 350 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,079 their minds. They have to go back to positive experiences 351 00:18:40,079 --> 00:18:42,519 with this dog, because if they see this dog again, 352 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,400 they be ready to attack the fight. So you may 353 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,240 have to give them a time out for a while 354 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:50,240 from each other and reintroduce them, but not with a 355 00:18:50,279 --> 00:18:52,480 lot of noise and stuff going around when it's just 356 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,839 the two of them, and hopefully get back to that 357 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,200 situation where they're doing great. And I answer one more question, 358 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,000 and then we've got puppies learning how to be that's 359 00:19:01,039 --> 00:19:02,920 a good one too, And Eloise is, by the way, 360 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,839 a great trainer. Puppies have to learn to behave and 361 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,440 it's like with any even little kids. So they know 362 00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:11,240 an older dog right and they get warning. But if 363 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,640 the puppies don't know how to listen, so we need 364 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,839 to sometimes be there prepared to intervene and say yes, Vicky, 365 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,279 thank you, all right, hi Foster Okay, let's go that 366 00:19:19,319 --> 00:19:21,440 before we hit the Shannon's question. Let's take a quick 367 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,440 break and we'll come back back to these messages. But 368 00:19:24,599 --> 00:19:28,279 we have to play our sponsor messages from our pet 369 00:19:28,319 --> 00:19:31,759 Life Radio, So Mark take it away. 370 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,279 Speaker 1: You know the expression cats have nine lives? Well, what 371 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,200 if you can give them one more? 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We're talking 382 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,680 about iv d D intervertebral disc disease and is there 383 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,920 a genetic component? How much can we know about it 384 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,720 to maybe prevent breeding and dogs that have it? We 385 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:43,279 do know certain breeds are notorious for it. I mentioned 386 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,240 the long back dogs like the Corkis, like the doctions 387 00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:49,079 and by the way, Corky's and doctions also have a 388 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,359 high predosition to being overweight, so all that's doing is 389 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,759 predisposing them to Some of the already have a genetic predisposition. 390 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:58,880 Now we put on added weight, no wonder what happens. 391 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,880 And the same thing with French bulldogs. We're seeing a 392 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:05,400 large amount of fronties with this disease, having surgery, etc. 393 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,519 So obviously I don't know if there's a test for 394 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:10,359 it yet. I don't know if they've discovered the gene 395 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,119 or genes that are responsible. But I do know if 396 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,039 you have a line of dogs that are throwing IVDD. 397 00:21:17,279 --> 00:21:20,319 It's the same thing with German shepherds with degender mylopathy. 398 00:21:20,519 --> 00:21:23,039 We know what happens, but do we know the connection 399 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,279 from the genetic problem to the actual disease itself. Is 400 00:21:28,279 --> 00:21:31,440 there a genetic predeposition? I don't know. I don't know 401 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,400 if anybody knows. I don't know if it's been tested yet. 402 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:36,640 But it's just when something happens with certain breeds that 403 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,519 obviously the simple thought would be yes, it's got to 404 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:43,319 be somehow genetic, but we we don't know how identify it. 405 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,119 We don't there's no test that can say, oh my god, 406 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,480 this dog has it, Therefore this dog should never breathe 407 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,519 so or does it take both parents? Is it a 408 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,640 abdominant or is it a submissive trait? We don't know. 409 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,240 So we just don't know. So we have to be 410 00:21:56,279 --> 00:21:59,880 really careful to make sure that if you know a 411 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:02,960 dog has it. It's like crypt orchidism in a dog. 412 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,519 Nobody wants to breed a dog that is in mon 413 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,440 orchid or crypt orchid where the testicles don't descend because 414 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,599 they know that it is passed on, but it can 415 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,680 be passed on. Do we need both? All right? So 416 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,440 the hard part is there's too much we don't know. 417 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:18,000 We know what we know, but we know there's a 418 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,079 lot we don't know, at least know yet. So I 419 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,079 would avoid breeding a dog that well, first of hopefully 420 00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:26,920 they're s maade neuter anyway, but I avoid breeding a 421 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,720 dog that whose offspring has shown to have IVDD and 422 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,559 at least maybe that may be something we can do. 423 00:22:35,079 --> 00:22:39,279 So at what age should we start using glucosamine? You know, again, 424 00:22:39,279 --> 00:22:42,920 as I mentioned, there's no data to support that even works. 425 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,920 The only data is coming from the clients, the pet 426 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,799 parents who are saying they've seen a change. So it's 427 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,960 what we call empirical data. We have not proven it scientifically. 428 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,480 There's been no study that I know of, because it 429 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,720 would be very expensive to do MRIs or cts on 430 00:22:59,759 --> 00:23:03,279 these animals. Radiographically, Apparently we don't see much of a change, 431 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:06,200 if it change at all, But the pet parents are saying, no, 432 00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:09,359 I see a change in my dog. So if you 433 00:23:09,519 --> 00:23:11,920 have a large bee dog, especially a dog that we 434 00:23:12,079 --> 00:23:15,759 know has a tendency towards displaysure some sort of arthritis, 435 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,680 and we know that the parents have had this problem, 436 00:23:20,039 --> 00:23:22,599 then you could start it anytime. There's no downside, no 437 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,279 studies that I know of that show a problem with 438 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,240 using glucosamine, condroit and MSM. I have my dog on 439 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,559 my big dog, my labrador, every day and he does fine. 440 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,160 So I would say by the time in the middle age, 441 00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:39,519 maybe five six, if they start showing signs before that, 442 00:23:39,759 --> 00:23:42,400 or or if you take an X ray for some 443 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,119 reason and you already see arthritis starting, or you see 444 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,519 poor confirmation of the hip joint or the knees with 445 00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:54,160 whether it's media patella luxation, whether it's cruciate you know ligament, 446 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,319 whether it's whatever, then I would start it whatever it is. 447 00:23:57,319 --> 00:23:59,759 I don't think it's a downside again, that's just me. 448 00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:02,720 Oh it's a rescue cat. Well, you know, yeah, I 449 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,039 get If it's a rescue cat, then look, is pregnice 450 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:08,680 alone better than nothing? I think so? So do it? 451 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,880 See what happens eachy dog beside typical shots? Chewing and headshaking, 452 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,240 scratching three yearld black lab Okay, So what is better 453 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:18,519 for an itchy dog besides typical shots? It's chewing? Headshake? Ah, 454 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:22,440 startfall if it's headshaking and scratching, okay? And chewing chewing? 455 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,079 What chewing? Skin? Chewing feet? If it's feet and headshaking 456 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,799 and scratching. I would put food allergies on my list. 457 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,039 I think that's very important because when we have face, feet, 458 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,880 and ears almost three f's, then think of food allergy. 459 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,920 There's a third F. So this time of year, a 460 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,119 lot of allergy is going on. It's fleas. Ears are 461 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,079 often yeast infection also predisposed from by allergy. So you 462 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,440 have to look at the ears, have the ears clean, 463 00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:53,720 treat the ears. When he says typical shots, are we 464 00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:58,039 talking side of point? I don't know. Are we talking corticosteroid? 465 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,160 That's important to know. But head shaking, well, I think 466 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,599 the ears is part of the head shaking. So and 467 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,759 a three year old lab I mean that's when allergies 468 00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:08,920 can start easily. If the ears are bad, the rest 469 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,759 of the body isn't that bad, and you're already on 470 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:14,440 flea control and there's no obvious signs other than the 471 00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:17,000 ears in head, I would think I said, I would 472 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,480 think food. Otherwise, the allergy treat for allergy should help 473 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,240 as well. Bathing labradors get dry skin, so all of 474 00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:28,839 these can contribute. And most importantly, is it seasonal? If 475 00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:32,000 this wasn't happening in the winter, then I'm thinking seasonal 476 00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:34,559 allergy has nothing to do with food, because unless you're 477 00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:39,480 changing food seasonally, then it would most likely be allergy. 478 00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:43,599 Seasonal allergies if it's year round, think of some sensitivity 479 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,480 hypersensitivity as something in the house, something that they're always 480 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,640 exposed to, or of course they're food. So you have 481 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,000 to work it out, work it up more, but be 482 00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:55,000 very specific. When you see a veterinarian, you want to 483 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:58,119 actually get a really thorough history, and those are the 484 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,920 things they want to know. Has anything change in the environment, 485 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,880 Is this seasonal or is it not seasonal. Is the 486 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,039 dog shaking, is rubbing its face on the carpet for example? 487 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,720 How are the teeth? Are there fleas? What does the 488 00:26:09,759 --> 00:26:11,920 rest of the skin look like. So these are things 489 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,720 that are very important to determine whether or now. Mind you, 490 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,839 of dogs that are allergic, only about fifteen to maybe 491 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,960 twenty percent is it food related. So food is not. 492 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,920 It's over diagnosed. It's not as common as everybody thinks, 493 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,599 but it could be real. So you may want to 494 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,359 talk to your veterinarian about a modified diet, something that 495 00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:36,400 is a protein diet that's novel, so novel protein and 496 00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:39,839 single anigen. So novel protein means a new protein, probably 497 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,519 something the dog has never been exposed to before. I 498 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:46,960 mean weird proteins like bison and venison and rabbit and 499 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:51,680 kangaroo and alligator and salmon and cod and salapia. Stay 500 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,799 away from poultry and beef all right. Duck is a 501 00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:57,359 good one, so you want to get them on slowly 502 00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:02,599 and look for food with own eat one anigen protein anigen, 503 00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:06,079 and only one grain. Stay away from corn and wheat. 504 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,839 Those are overrepresented. They've been exposed to it for too long. 505 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,240 So look for even rice I'm not a big fan of, 506 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,599 but quinewa, barley, oats, vegetables, green pea, sweet potato, potato. 507 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,160 So there are many other things that you can do 508 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,039 that are carbs and proteins that the dog has probably 509 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,440 never been seen before, and therefore, if he's never been 510 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,960 exposed to it, he's most likely not going to be 511 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,000 allergic to it, at least not yet. After six months, 512 00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:34,160 you never know. It can happen again. Okay, speak of anilclans. 513 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,079 If a dog gets anogams done but it's still constantly 514 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,839 scooting no worms five months or what's wrong? Ah, So 515 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,640 again some dogs. In fact, I'd be doing one coming 516 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,599 up pretty soon. It is just the dog and we 517 00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:48,359 therefore may need to remove the anal glands, kind of 518 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,079 like removing skunk's clans. And if it's continuing all the time. 519 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,319 Normally dogs are able to release evacuate their glands when 520 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,920 they defecate, but if the anal secretion is super thin, 521 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:02,680 or they don't have that sphink or muscle at the 522 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:04,839 end of the bowel movement to really push it out, 523 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,480 this is what happens. And also maybe have your veterinarian 524 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,880 or your veterinary staff to the end. When you take 525 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,359 it to a groomer, they're doing the easy way, which 526 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,960 is just glanned against clan. It's not as effective the 527 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,960 digital technique. You go, put a glove on, go up 528 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,200 the butt and do one gland at a time. That 529 00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:24,279 is a better way, more efficient way to esplice the 530 00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:26,839 anal glands. You might want to do that first before 531 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,839 deciding whether or not you need to be more aggressive. 532 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,720 That's what I think. And Steph, how you doing? I 533 00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:35,160 hope you're still there. Husband's skeptic about dogs in an 534 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,920 anyone's express Oh if it's never done, then no, some 535 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,440 hot stuff. Trust me. You need to have it done, 536 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,720 and have it done by your veterinarian. 537 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,039 Speaker 1: Well. 538 00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:46,519 Speaker 2: I don't know why there's skeptical about getting anal glands expressed, 539 00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:50,200 but sometimes it's a vicious cycle. If you don't do 540 00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:53,440 it and they start to fill up and build up, 541 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,279 the fluid part of it gets resorbed, leaving a very 542 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,720 thick impossible to release by itself, anal discharge. So you 543 00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:06,279 got to get them clearly expressed, expressed well, and then 544 00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:08,400 start making a decision about what to do how to 545 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,319 do it, so I would one hundred percent do it, Okay, 546 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,559 I think we got them all right. If there's anyone 547 00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:17,559 I missed, please send me a note. We will do it. 548 00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:19,799 We'll take it. I'll be first what we do next week. 549 00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:23,200 But right now we are over our time limit. When 550 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,880 I get dirty looks from Mark, I know it's time 551 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,880 to finish up. So anyway, thanks for joining me here. 552 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,440 You can always reach me if you have a real 553 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,039 problem during the week, you can reach me at DRGEF, 554 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,200 doctor Jeff at Petlife Radio dot com, doctor jeffordoctordeff dot com. 555 00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:38,000 A million ways you can get me on air VET. 556 00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:40,359 So however you want to get me, get me and 557 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,039 also do me favor. We have a great audience today. 558 00:29:43,359 --> 00:29:46,279 Tell your friends. It would be great to have more 559 00:29:46,319 --> 00:29:48,759 of your friends, more pet parents. I love talking to 560 00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:51,119 pet parents. With a new crop of people coming in, 561 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:53,000 that's going to be a new crop of questions and 562 00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:55,960 problems we're having and we can help people. If I 563 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,759 can help you, I'm helping somebody else at the same time, 564 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,920 and that makes your happy. So same back time, same 565 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,039 back town. I'm here next week and have a wonderful 566 00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:06,599 week everybody, and we'll see you next week. 567 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,839 Speaker 3: All by, let's Talk Pets every week on demand only 568 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:25,839 on petlife radio dot com.