Speaker 1: But on the topic of see what I can do,
We've got some juicy Marvel news to get into here.
So have you heard kirkland the latest? Here? What the
rumors are for Avengers Doomsday, where we're going to have
a Team Loki versus a Team Doom.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I didn't really hear about it before.
Speaker 3: Now it's a spicy like main event fight, you know,
like another civil I guess it's not really civil war
situation because they're not. They weren't at one point on
the same side. Well, and unless it is the actual
Downy in in in the Mass, I guess in some way,
shape or form, they have been on a similar well
actually I don't even know, because Loki hasn't really been
like at least with iron Man, right, Like, they've never
been on the same team.
Speaker 1: No, because it will be Loki.
Speaker 3: And Thor together, but and then Thanos pops off on him,
so he didn't get to like be a teammate of Downies.
So yeah, that so it's definitely not a civil warse situation,
even if it's a variant or whatever.
Speaker 2: It might be their only interaction.
Speaker 1: It really SEMs from the first Avengers film When you
think about it right, just they have that one on
one conversation. Yeah, and two it's a different Loki than
the one we saw, Diane.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's one hundred percent true. I mean I I
like the sound of again, like the big fight title
card of these two heavy hitters, like great team captains.
On the power scale level, I would say, it's kind
of tough for me to like picture what Loki's power
level is right now, Like he's the man of the chair.
He's kind of just dangling these webs of the tree
of whatever it's called the tree I'm just gonna call
the Tree of infinity because tree of souls. He's in
a god tier position. I guess he was already a
god before him, But I digress. I definitely not would
have been my first like guess on who the team
lead would be again, I guess it makes sense, especially
if you know going down the line of like him
his team possibly being you know, the variety of exiles
that are like from different multiverses or whatever the details
of that might be. I guess that makes sense because
he has easy access to them because he's like literally
just the fucking I don't even know the I.
Speaker 2: Want to say seamstress. That's not the right word.
Speaker 3: What's the puppet master, I guess of of the galaxy
and the different branches of the universe. So yeah, I
don't know. The more I kind of think about it,
it does make sense he's been just cooking, you know,
in hibernation for a little for a little while. I'm
also just so excited to see what that character is
now after he's been in that chair for I don't
know exactly what the time, like how time works for
him in that realm, like if it's been months, days, years, lifetimes,
millennias like, I have no idea how even perceives time
being in that area and just how much him being
there has changed his like psyche level, or if it
has at all. Like next time we see lokis it's
gonna be just the exact same Loki that we saw
at the end of Loki Season two. Obviously, that character
has gone through a lot of growth even just through
that show, So it's gonna be interesting to just see
him but get kind of side tanging there. But like
going back to just the idea of Team Loki versus
Team Doom and again it is a rumor so it's
no dot, don't take it to the bank or anything.
But for Doomsday, I do like it because it's gonna
make like like it's not gonna just force us to
have Doom against everyone like right off the hop. I
think you kind of have to let that grow to
like the eventual like final standoff with Doom, so he
has not instead of just you know, blank Henchman number
one as his ally, like he actually has team like
members that were maybe familiar faces that we've seen before.
They're like maybe more on the evil side or or
have different motivations there.
Speaker 2: And yeah, no, I I I'm not like blown away.
Speaker 3: Like when I saw it, I was like, holy fuck,
they did it, Like this is the like this is
the team up and matchup that I want to see.
Speaker 2: I definitely don't have that thought by any means.
Speaker 3: Maybe I would have had it if it was like
an official like this is actually what it looks like, like,
you know, seeing the trailer for example, and we see
like the team standing up there wearing their their fucking
team pennies or whatever the hell they're they're they're they're
wearing and rocking. But I'm I'm definitely not negative on it.
By any means, I don't know. I guess we can
kind of get into the teams. But what what's your
overall thoughts on all this.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty stoked. I've been waiting for for Loki
to come back in here. It's like Uncanny Suit in
the chat. Look, you better get his scruwy ass out
of that chair. That's all I know. Bro will get
cooked otherwise. I want I want to see him come
in there, like he's in a position of power and
I'm so ready, And just the idea of him building
a team like this, Loki just being so different from
all the other Lokis and him just having a bit
more of a righteous head on his shoulders, and he's
evolved from what all the other low Kis have kind
of gone through, like he's Lowki prime.
Speaker 2: I love the idea of.
Speaker 1: Him showing up. You know, our Avengers, they're getting their
asses handed to them. It's not looking good. And then
the portal opens up and you got Loki strolling out
there with his fricking team, and it's like all these
other multiversal heroes and you got different actors playing these
variants of heroes that we weren't expecting or whatever, and
we'll get a bunch of points in our Superhero draft.
So I think stuff like that is just I eat
it up.
Speaker 2: And that's why I love.
Speaker 1: The Marble What If series so much because you get
all these different very variants and scenarios and whatnot. So
I'm very much looking forward to it. I'm curious who
would be on Team Doom though, just like detail and
the chat saying who's on that team? Ah, I'm gonna
try and find that out. We do know, according to
the rumor, who would be on Team low Key. And
then there was some teasing as well from Ryan Reynolds.
Did you see that tease?
Speaker 3: I didn't see it, but uh, you know, I saw
it in our in our in our notes there, and
I mean even even beyond the names that were listed there,
like it's kind of like there's a lot of people
that qualify as like an exile, you know, people out
of there there. Like technically, when isn't that where you
would get like the Toby's of the world, I would
I would think, yeah, yeah, So I I still kind
of think that would be held for Secret Wars, like
all of all of those crazy cameos. But I mean,
anyone that's kind of been plucked out of their realm.
I think kind of fits in that category. The Doom
potential of like who could be on that team is
exciting for me because I think that's where you would
be getting like the evil version of certain characters, because like,
there's no reason why he couldn't also have his own
variant team. Well, I guess he's kind of against that,
according you know, again to the rumor of his mayble
just say that now you know, supposedly, uh in here
Doom will probably have.
Speaker 2: His own team in Doomsday.
Speaker 3: Apparently he sees the incursions as a huge danger to
the multiverse and wants to stop them, using Frankie rich
mister Richards himself Richards. Yeah, so that's that's that. But yeah,
what do you did you find anything in your quick little.
Speaker 1: I couldn't find anything on Team Doom. I couldn't find anything.
But I saw a lot of people breaking down the
idea that you're going to have multiple teams, And I
think that's what kind of is reiterated when you look
at the Thunderbolts, when you have the New Avengers versus
Sam Wilson's Avengers, and then now we got the Fantastic four,
and then we're gonna have Team Loki, and then we're
gonna have Team Doom. So we got all these different teams,
and how are they going to really work together? Are
they going to come together? Even are they going to
be very divided? That's what I'm kind of curious on.
If they're gonna just all group up and be like, hey,
we are all Avengers, that's assemble, or they're just going
to be, like I said, Doom's gonna be just strutting around,
just taking names and whatnot. And then the Portal's gonna
open and Loki's just gonna step out at the end
of the movie, end of the battle and people be like,
oh my god, and the outcomes on Team Loki, which
according to the rumor, we're gonna see oh x men too. Detall,
thank you for reminding me about that. So the rumor
from different universes Captain Carter, Steve Rogers, Sylvie Gambit, Hunter
B fifteen, Wolverine, and Deadpool Hunter B fifteen from Loki.
Oh right, right, right, right, right, right, right right right.
I forgot about that. No mention of Owen will So
though that's Mobius Mobius or Obi is.
Speaker 3: That his name his buddies. Ob yes, yeah, fan favorite.
I think there would be some hooton and hollering in
the theater if he uh, if he stepped out of
the port, would be pretty sweet. I think he might
be out of his out of his element, as you know,
the great John Goodman character Walter would say, Yeah, what
was I gonna say in there?
Speaker 2: For for Doom? Also, like, I don't know, I'm looking
at this. We had Infinny War.
Speaker 3: We had an end game of course Thanos wins in
that first movie. I think it'll be pretty similar of
a situation. Like I, I don't think Doom is gonna
be dismantled. I obviously they could do something different than
what the Infinity War set up is, but in my
mind that's just kind of.
Speaker 2: How it'll go.
Speaker 3: So I like, Lookie has some heavy hitters on that list,
like the names. I still think they're gonna be like
getting beat up. Though, Like I I think it's gonna
be not a decisive victory for Team Doctor Doom. But yeah,
I think it'll be a pretty sured victory. And I
think a lot of that will be just on Doom himself,
on the power that that he's bringing to the game.
We haven't seen him in action, but yeah, I don't know,
I I that's just that's just what my mind is
is going in that direction. And obviously, yes, minor spoilers
if you've seen Fantastic four or not skip ahead, But
Fantastic four, like they put a lot of emphasis on
just the character of Franklin Richard's and obviously Galactus like
that was his main motivation was to get this character
to basically replace him. And if like that is the
potential with this character, be someone like Doom who can
like really.
Speaker 2: Not abuse but take advantage.
Speaker 3: Of of of someone of that caliber, Like I'm interested
in just how he does that. And yeah, I can
also foresee some some doom Bots pop popping in that
would fill up some of the roster slots, not necessarily
being the main teammates of Doom, but at least have
them as as some Hinchman maybe just have as cannon
fodder for our other characters, like like the ones that
you've already listed. Captain Carter Steve Rogers one hundred B
fifteen is just so on a lesser tier than all
these other big names on here. It's kind of funny
to see, you know, no disrespect, but like fuck, she's no,
she's no Steve Rogers or Captain.
Speaker 2: Carter or a littlone Wolvering Wolverine Deadpool.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, yeah, no, well said just again. For me,
it's seeing all the characters together. I think that's just
the the exciting thing that I look forward to the most,
especially in that live action representation. And I mean even
though it says Steve Rogers, hey, it could be someone
else casted as him, not necessarily are Chris Evans.
Speaker 4: So this guy just having fun man making movies, big Adventure,
a great time.
Speaker 3: It's so funny because that could literally be a clip
from him, like Red Carpet of Avengers, Like what does
it feel like to be, you know, joining the MCU
and just fucking like like whatever.
Speaker 4: Just having fun man making movies, big adventure, having a
great time.
Speaker 2: Tom any any comments of your most recent divorce.
Speaker 4: Just having fun man making movies.
Speaker 3: I just fucking love that video. Get Tom an MCU.
I feel like it's an inevitability. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's it is inevitability. I think it's gonna happen sooner
rather than later.
Speaker 2: For oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, anything else that you want to mention?
Speaker 2: What else?
Speaker 3: I yeah, I am excited to see the team up.
So I'm excited to see a more like a finalized
list of what the roster could look like. Again preface,
it's all rumors. It's not not guaranteed by any means,
but just having some of these characters interact, Like the
fact that you have Steve Rodgers on there with Captain
Carter like that is just such a an interesting speck,
you know, Like especially we got a little bit of
more backstory on Captain Carter through like the the what
If series of like how she lost her Steve in
that universe, and just to have them both like cat
version that that's a pretty That's like an Avengers roster
right there, and it's it's kind of funny how we
we've had a hard time like figuring out who's going
to be the Avengers roster.
Speaker 2: But man, like there's some there's some quality there.
Speaker 3: There's some people that could hold me on near on
that list, and of course Thor isn't on there as.
Speaker 2: Of right now.
Speaker 3: I yeah, give any thoughts on like where the other
characters are gonna be, Like the Hulk. You know, there's
the talk of him being in Brand New Day, so
whatever might come of that, But yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think, uh, I never know with Hulk, you know, because
him popping up on a Spider Man movie. Never in
a million years when I thought that that's what would
be happening.
Speaker 2: But here we go.
Speaker 1: Uh So, I I'm excited to see how he's going
to peer in here and what his tie to the
story is going to be. When you see Captain Carter
and Steve Rogers, I'm wondering, Okay, is it going to
be Captain If it's Captain America and Captain Carter, like
they're just gonna have full on super soldier sex, just
get down, just can't.
Speaker 2: Be able to mississ each other.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just going hot and heavy.
Speaker 2: But it says Steve Rogers.
Speaker 1: And then in the you know these rumors, you're someoneering, Okay,
is that going to be a scenario similar to where
Steve Rogers is in like the Hulkbuster kind of armor
or the Mark two suit or whatever that Stark build
or something like that, and he's just still scrawny. And
then Peggy is obviously Captain Carter in this. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think they just did that because Captain America is
technically you know Sam Wilson right now, m and Captain Carter,
Like if they said Peggy Carter, you know that, isn't
that that I wouldn't think that would.
Speaker 2: Be Captain Carter.
Speaker 3: And if Loki's team is just a bunch of freaks
from different universes, I guess that also kind of answers
the question of what version we'd be getting of the
characters listed, because obviously Sylvie is from another world, Gambit
very obviously from a different world. Hunter b is like
out of the world's kind of in a weird realm,
and then we know about the Wolverine and both Deadpool.
So yeah, I just more so making me think of
those types of characters. And of course you know there's
like Kelsey Grammer's name that doesn't sound.
Speaker 2: Right Beast, Yeah it is Beast and Spectrum. Who is
she from our universe? Originally the other Captain Marvel character
her name is?
Speaker 1: I thought it was, Oh no, I know who you're
thinking of. If you're thinking of Carol, I'm not Carol Danvers.
What is her name? Oh yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Mom or the daughter, because I guess the daughter, the
Mom version though could be on Team Loki because she's
like that version when she goes through the portal at
the end of the.
Speaker 1: Marvels Maria Rambo, Oh that's the mom and yeah, she
appears with Kelsey Grammer's beast. That's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like those players are either on the bench
or ready to slap ass and.
Speaker 2: No mention of them here.
Speaker 1: But and it's it's funny because like they really like
using Maria Rambo a lot, because I mean they in
Multiverse of Madness, they gave her the role of being
Captain Marvel, right.
Speaker 3: I think that's the version I'm thinking of, actually, the
version I'm mixing it with the Marvels and and scene
pretty much the only scene I remember from that movie
beyond the images of course that we have saved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't figure out.
Speaker 1: Oh there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2: Look at the quality of these images too.
Speaker 1: That's night of that's the night of the review quality.
Speaker 2: Like IM's got this like or no. It was like
the video clip of.
Speaker 3: The Greek came here Hopeful. He literally pulled that as
we were driving from the movie. I think I was
dropping him off at his house and he found that,
like he has his ways.
Speaker 2: He's a trickster. He's a trickster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, God damn yeah. I don't have really anything else
to add. I just the idea that Deadpool could be
popping up in here gets me excited. The idea that
it's going to be primarily focused on the serious note
with doom and everything, and then you're just gonna have
Deadpool randomly dropping in just gets me so excited.
Speaker 3: These are used like minor amounts, right, Like, you can't
just have them constantly fucking dopper doom like shredding people alive.
Speaker 1: And he's got experience with the multiverse, right, so he knows, uh,
going in different timelines, true stuff, And he's already doing it.
He's already going to different fucking timelines because he went
to like six one six, tried to join the Avengers.
Speaker 2: There he met Happy Hogan.
Speaker 1: He met Happy Hogan. Yeah, so there's a lot of
really fun stuff to be had with that. And you're right,
you can't have him just go and slapstick the full
send for two and a half hours. You got to
have him just be used appropriately at the right time.
So otherwise it's it's Deadpool doomsday, not Avengers doomsday.
Speaker 2: Do you think he's breaking the fourth wall?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like do you think he's the only character that
does it? Like nobody even acknowledges what he's doing.
Speaker 1: I think so unless she Hulks doing it because she
hawked it in her show, right, but I think, yeah, dead.
Speaker 3: Probably not doing this unless she's on Team Doom. Just
the evil turn to really crazy cousin Matt Murdoch, you know,
just stop stop messaging her or whatever.
Speaker 2: She goes full evil.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, she just uh this goes on.
Speaker 2: That's for you, that's for you.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Uh cool, nothing else.
Speaker 3: I am excited for more follow up on this, whether
it confirms or deny the whole existence of this, But
I think it also just makes sense of having this
is the Big Avengers title and to have like even
Thanos had his Black Order right of his that's like
ebony Ma. The other guys that I don't remember at all,
but yeah.
Speaker 1: Ebony Ma is the only one worth remembering anyway.
Speaker 3: Great dialogue, fantastic voice, really cool looking character. I guess,
like the the the chick, the female one that had
like that that dual blade.
Speaker 2: She was kind of cool, but like not.
Speaker 3: A lot of lines right, like she was just yeah, yeah,
absolutely the villain. And then like even like her romance
partner in that movie, like again just fucking cannon fodder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing, nothing. The only time they even alluded more
to that was when they were being like, uh dusted
and you see them holding each other as they fucking
die in the game this scene. Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
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