Speaker 1: And nine Ignition six five four.
Speaker 2: Three two one.
Speaker 3: Zero, All engine running.
Speaker 4: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
Speaker 4: Ignition with the aw fan podcast team. This is Kelson
Speaker 4: and Sunday, May twenty fifth, we have Double or Nothing
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Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about all kinds of aw news tonight,
Speaker 4: but we're gonna start with double or Nothing because guys
Speaker 4: help me out here. As far as I know, there's
Speaker 4: only two matches set officially for double or Nothing, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Owen Cup Finals, right yeah.
Speaker 4: Just on Hard Cup Finals, the only ones. So what
Speaker 4: what are we doing here? What are we going to get?
Speaker 4: It's base six anarchy. We're going to get anarchy, Kelson
Speaker 4: anarchy and the arena or just anarchy in general.
Speaker 1: Well the pun was in general, but I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you're picking up what I'm putting down. It seems
Speaker 1: like they're leading to an anarchy and arena five on
Speaker 1: five match.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, just put all the names on a wheel,
Speaker 5: spin it, pick the opponents that send them out, and
Speaker 5: let them go.
Speaker 4: Let's well, Barry, well, let's explore that. You said a
Speaker 4: five o five. What are the sides?
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see some string alliances if
Speaker 1: we go back to when was the first time the
Speaker 1: Ops really made the running on the death Riders and
Speaker 1: I think the elite was that two weeks ago in Dynamite.
Speaker 4: It was pretty recent. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm thinking the Ops Swerve and then one
Speaker 1: more person against three of the death Riders and maybe
Speaker 1: the Bucks if I remember how that was all set up.
Speaker 4: So that's what you think, Like Swerve and the Ops
Speaker 4: are going to be on one side of the anarchy.
Speaker 4: The arena, Yeah, oh that'd be I mean, look at
Speaker 4: a crater anarchy INDI arena is always fun to see
Speaker 4: live because it's total anarchy, although I have to say
Speaker 4: it's probably better to watch on TV because there's so
Speaker 4: much going on all over the place it's hard to
Speaker 4: keep keep up. Has Have any of you ever seen
Speaker 4: an anarchy match or something similar.
Speaker 1: Like that Live Love Revolution, That Revolution twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: whenever the Punk MGF Dog Collar Match was and Wardlow
Speaker 1: won the ring, Sting and Darby had a tag match
Speaker 1: against somebody and it was all over the arena and
Speaker 1: on that one that was the one where Sting went
Speaker 1: through the two stacks of tables from the corridor. That
Speaker 1: was pretty cool. But to your point, Kelson, being there live,
Speaker 1: I couldn't see half the stuff when they were in
Speaker 1: the crowd.
Speaker 4: Right they but they probably shout it out the big
Speaker 4: screen as it was going.
Speaker 1: On, right, not always production issues. No. The other time
Speaker 1: there was the Bowen I think it was the Continental Classic.
Speaker 1: The first one where it was the triple threat was
Speaker 1: Swerve mox and j White. I think that that was
Speaker 1: the December Pool World's End two years ago. I was
Speaker 1: at that Dynamite. They brawled right in front of me
Speaker 1: and they were all over the arena once they got
Speaker 1: out of the ring, and that was awesome. But him
Speaker 1: and Swerved went and that was to your point cause
Speaker 1: and it was great having him right in front of you,
Speaker 1: but once they got in the crowd and you couldn't
Speaker 1: see him, it wasn't as fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, look, we've got job Moxley's the aw
Speaker 4: world champion and he's fighting Samoa Joe on Dynamite, right,
Speaker 4: so we don't really have the world champion booked for
Speaker 4: a match it at double or nothing yet.
Speaker 1: That's why I think they're doing the Ann Key because
Speaker 1: they're doing the title match two weeks right before the
Speaker 1: pay per view, and they're not going to do two
Speaker 1: matches in a row. So my guess is that will
Speaker 1: lead into either they'll screw Joe out or Joel. They'll
Speaker 1: screw Joe out of it and they'll challenge the anarchen
Speaker 1: Arene or something. I think that's how they'll build that,
Speaker 1: or at least that's what it seems like to me,
Speaker 1: something that.
Speaker 3: I think it'll be.
Speaker 5: I think it'll be, uh, there'll be a disqualification on
Speaker 5: They're not there's not gonna I don't think Joe's gonna
Speaker 5: get screwed. I just think it's gonna be a double disqualification.
Speaker 5: I think everybody's going to get involved in a brawl.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it would be no contests like the Yeah,
Speaker 3: pretty much a no contest.
Speaker 5: They'll both be disqualified because the Ops and the Death
Speaker 5: Riders are all going to get involved.
Speaker 3: And I kind of.
Speaker 5: Agree with you that I think it's gonna be Swerve
Speaker 5: and luckily, if if Hook's back, they'll have enough guys
Speaker 5: with the Ops.
Speaker 4: And Swerve all right, yeah Hook, because yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 4: but that we've got on the other side, Tony Storm. Titless.
Speaker 4: Tony Storm has no match yet, and I really don't
Speaker 4: know who they would put her against at double or nothing.
Speaker 4: Have you got any ideas here?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 1: She had a chromo on Collision where she was basically
Speaker 1: challenging the world. Is there anybody that could bring over
Speaker 1: from Japan maybe or like a hot shot.
Speaker 4: Well, you've got Mina Shirakawa, you know, debut Ring.
Speaker 1: Of Honor, though I don't know if they'll bring her
Speaker 1: back up.
Speaker 4: Well that was that was a tape that wasn't a
Speaker 4: live debut, that was taped a while ago. Okay, Mina
Speaker 4: Shirakawa is actually wrestling this week end for if I'm
Speaker 4: not mistaken, it's her an asm against Mercedes Monett for
Speaker 4: the n j p W Strong Women's champion Ship. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of behind on the news because I was
Speaker 4: a little busy this weekend. So yeah, so Storm, I mean,
Speaker 4: look a burning Scourge in the chat just said Queen
Speaker 4: Amnautica challenge and that would be a really good challenge.
Speaker 4: Another person that I've always said that they should have
Speaker 4: go against Tony Storm is thunder Rosa. But I don't
Speaker 4: like to build to this. I don't think that it's
Speaker 4: the right time to do thunder Rosa against Tony Storm.
Speaker 3: Because enough for anything, honest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean exactly. Yeah. I mean this has been
Speaker 4: a complaint that I know, Sutton, You've had this complaint
Speaker 4: about AW for a while. They just they don't build
Speaker 4: towards the pay per views anywhere near enough time. I mean,
Speaker 4: we've got two number one contenders matches in the owen
Speaker 4: Hart Cup and that's it.
Speaker 5: Some far and you got you got a little over
Speaker 5: nineteen nineteen days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. It's every other pay per view, I
Speaker 1: would say, every build, but like every other paper good
Speaker 1: that builds great and double or nothing's one of their
Speaker 1: big four. So this is the one I would have
Speaker 1: expected for them to load up as opposed to the Dynasty.
Speaker 1: They just said, but the build of Dynasty was better,
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5: I think that they are switching from making double and
Speaker 5: nothing the big one to making all in the Big one,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because like you said, there's
Speaker 5: no there's absolutely no build to this none, and you
Speaker 5: can't build the matches.
Speaker 4: There's no building.
Speaker 1: The finals were always slated for there, but not enough,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 5: But you've got two matches out of you know, there's
Speaker 5: going to be ten or eight, so that leaves you
Speaker 5: six matches. They have no build for so so, and
Speaker 5: I'll guarantee you they've they've been building more for all
Speaker 5: In and talking about all In since December, so you
Speaker 5: know they're like, Okay, we're gonna do this.
Speaker 3: We're gonna all In is gonna be in Texas. It's
Speaker 3: going to be you.
Speaker 4: Well, the way I'm looking at it is this guys,
Speaker 4: is that Tomorrow night on Dynamite. I guarantee you we're
Speaker 4: gonna get at least four matches set up. They're gonna
Speaker 4: have challenge. You know, the ship is gonna hit the fan. Basically,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have I want you to look, we've got
Speaker 4: guys like Kyle Fletcher that don't have a match, Kenny Omega,
Speaker 4: Keno Takeshta doesn't have a match. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You've got all these guys that are.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yeah, no, hang In Hangman's Finals.
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm a little behind, so I am.
Speaker 4: Hangman Osprey and Mercedes Monett and Jamie Hayter. Those are
Speaker 4: the two matches, and of course the week of uh
Speaker 4: double or nothing we will do our uh prediction show
Speaker 4: and pick the winners for that for those matches, but
Speaker 4: right now hard to do. But you again, you got
Speaker 4: Kyle Flettrick, you got Canoskate Takeshta, You've got Kenny Kenny Omega.
Speaker 4: On the men's side, you know those are three big ones.
Speaker 4: Of course, you got.
Speaker 1: Kenny's gonna be in the he was the fifth. I
Speaker 1: couldn't think of He'll be an anarchy in the arena
Speaker 1: when they did that whole thing two weeks ago, Kenny
Speaker 1: was the fifth guy. It was Kenny came out the end.
Speaker 4: Okay. So then on the women's side, I mean, you've
Speaker 4: got other big Tony Storm doesn't have a match, uh,
Speaker 4: Queen Aminada, Julia hart Uh. I'm thinking because the week
Speaker 4: before I believe Double or Nothing, the show is in
Speaker 4: is emanating from Chicago, Illinois my career. That's right right.
Speaker 1: Before Double or Nothing they do with Dynamite and Collision
Speaker 1: in Albuquerque. Okayro you got Detroit. Then next week is
Speaker 1: Beach Break. That's the Dynamite Collision tape at the Arena
Speaker 1: in Chicago. And then the week before Double that one
Speaker 1: day on Saturday is an Albuquerque.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking next week in Chicago, you're going to see
Speaker 4: you're gonna see the return of sky Blue, I mean honestly,
Speaker 4: and then you're gonna see something You're you're gonna see
Speaker 4: something with sky Blue betraying Julia Hart or teaming with
Speaker 4: Julia Heart to go against somebody else. I surprise, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised to see something going on where it's
Speaker 4: going to be sky Blue and Julia Hart versus Penelope
Speaker 4: Port and Megan Bain at double or nothing.
Speaker 5: So I thought I just was having where you were
Speaker 5: mentioning these tag teams for the women's side.
Speaker 3: Possibility they could reveal.
Speaker 5: Tomorrow or the next week that the women's tag team
Speaker 5: division could have a tournament at double or nothing.
Speaker 4: That would be good.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know what I mean, because we've known
Speaker 5: for a while that the rumor is that's coming.
Speaker 3: So what's a better time to do it than when
Speaker 3: you've got nothing else planned?
Speaker 1: How would you do that? Whuen? Didn't you have have
Speaker 1: like two semi final matches or two quarter final matches
Speaker 1: like on Dynamite and Collision and then that No, no,
Speaker 1: then you'd have to do the.
Speaker 5: To be honest, to be honest with you if I'm
Speaker 5: gonna do it, and I'm gonna do it big. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna do it two semis and and I'm gonna have
Speaker 5: three matches at all in I'm gonna have the two
Speaker 5: semis committee in the final.
Speaker 4: Let me let me break in here and ask you
Speaker 4: guys a question. Well, first of all, the burning scores
Speaker 4: and Chat said, what about Billy Starks and Harley Cameron.
Speaker 4: Harley Cameron definitely, you know she's she's big right now,
Speaker 4: she's getting the pops. She needs to be on this
Speaker 4: pay per view. But look, here's here's the thing that
Speaker 4: I wanted to bring up. A tournament for women's tag
Speaker 4: would be great at least to get started here. But
Speaker 4: wouldn't that take away from the owen Hart Finals doing
Speaker 4: something like that? And I don't think Tony Kahn would
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think if you're gonna create titles like that,
Speaker 1: make it a big deal and do it at all in,
Speaker 1: give them, give them that six week you've.
Speaker 4: Got to start. You know what they could do is
Speaker 4: next week. I believe that's the one in Chicago's next week. Right,
Speaker 4: announced the tournament this week and next week as sky
Speaker 4: Blew with Julia Hart open it up.
Speaker 1: Nelson, I think I think he nailed it. They announce it,
Speaker 1: and then the next couple of builds where they say
Speaker 1: it doesn't start until after double or nothing is backstage
Speaker 1: segments with teams.
Speaker 4: For me exactly. I liked when they did the look
Speaker 4: remember when they did the blind Tag Team Challenge, and
Speaker 4: that's how Adam Cole and MGF became partners and that
Speaker 4: became let's base it. Maybe the devil storyline wasn't the
Speaker 4: greatest and it kind of put some people off, but
Speaker 4: the partnership itself was extremely good. It was extremely good. Uh,
Speaker 4: and they I think they made it if I'm wondering
Speaker 4: if Adam Cole did not get injured. If that, they
Speaker 4: wouldn't have rushed it and they would have kept it
Speaker 4: going because better than You Beabe was a hot commodity.
Speaker 4: The crowd was over it got talked about everywhere, and
Speaker 4: they sold the hell out of merch. So I mean
Speaker 4: they need something like that. I mean, I'm not saying
Speaker 4: that any of the women's tag teams put together would
Speaker 4: do that, but can you imagine sky Blue coming out
Speaker 4: to do a match in Chicago where she's from. She
Speaker 4: always gets a big pop and remember when she was injured,
Speaker 4: when she was injured and still on crutches. She was
Speaker 4: injured and still on crutches. She came out all Out
Speaker 4: last year because All Out was held in Chicago. I
Speaker 4: remember she got, she got, she took a bump, which
Speaker 4: I thought was I thought that was insane, having somebody
Speaker 4: who was legitimately, legitimately injured getting squashed onto the onto
Speaker 4: the ramp there.
Speaker 1: That was kind of that's a good setup too, Like
Speaker 1: when they're forming all the teams and you know, Tony
Speaker 1: Shravanni or Renee or somebody can ask Julia and she
Speaker 1: just smiles and she's like, I've got somebody in mind,
Speaker 1: and then she goes off. But everyone wonders, who's your partner?
Speaker 1: Who's her partner? And that's your mystery, return tells and
Speaker 1: that works.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that does you know. I I look, I
Speaker 4: just want to see them do something that would get
Speaker 4: talked about, you know, then you get talking points. Speaking
Speaker 4: of talking points, wow, once again, Wwe released a ton
Speaker 4: of wrestlers and some of them are some pretty big names.
Speaker 4: And is there anybody on this on that list that
Speaker 4: that you see that could be good pickups in a
Speaker 4: situation for Ray W.
Speaker 1: Sutton or Nut. You guys go first, you go first.
Speaker 6: I really don't know.
Speaker 2: I that's how little I pay attention to WWE, so
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think AW really needs to fix
Speaker 2: a couple of things before they add more people to
Speaker 2: the roster. They already have enough people that we don't
Speaker 2: see enough, and I think they need to concentrate on
Speaker 2: what they have and really strengthen that before they start
Speaker 2: adding more and more people. That's yeah, I feel about it.
Speaker 4: You know, I agree with you. But there are some
Speaker 4: people on the AW roster that arguably, and I don't
Speaker 4: know because I'm not a booker, but they're not being
Speaker 4: used for a reason, possibly because they're just not that good,
Speaker 4: you know whatever. I mean, let's face it, AW just
Speaker 4: UH mutually agreed to UH to release the Righteous. Now.
Speaker 4: I did see reports, but it was very it was
Speaker 4: very amicable, and the Righteous are open to working matches
Speaker 4: for a w R o H. So I wouldn't be
Speaker 4: surprised if we don't see them again. They're just not
Speaker 4: on the roster anymore. And that's the way you do it.
Speaker 3: UH.
Speaker 4: Look, probably the biggest name out there that got released
Speaker 4: on the men's side at least is broad Breaker, is
Speaker 4: a Breaker or Strowman. I forget who was Strom. As
Speaker 4: soon as I said Breaker, I knew I was wrong.
Speaker 5: I think there's some issues outside of wrestling. Is why
Speaker 5: he got released.
Speaker 4: Well, he's and he's injured a lot. I mean he's
Speaker 4: not healthy prime Yeah, injured braun Strowman.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: On the women's side, Dakota Kai.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's what I was thinking, So.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, help, go ahead something.
Speaker 5: If you're gonna bring all the people that were released
Speaker 5: this time from WWE, the women's side is where they'll
Speaker 5: pick up people, if they're gonna pick people up, because
Speaker 5: Dakota Kai would be the best signing.
Speaker 3: But there are some others who.
Speaker 5: They might be, like on the fringe, and I don't
Speaker 5: know a lot of them because I haven't watched WWE
Speaker 5: in forever. But the women's side in aew although it's
Speaker 5: a very strong roster, could use some more, yeah, because
Speaker 5: the men's have got a ton of people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, here's the thing. Now, I can honestly
Speaker 4: say that I don't know many other than braun Strowman,
Speaker 4: who I obviously think is broad Breaker from the same person,
Speaker 4: But they're not but other than that. But on the
Speaker 4: women's side, there are women in on that list who
Speaker 4: did perform in AAW during the AW Dark and Dark
Speaker 4: Elevation Day days. Here's the thing, a lot of these
Speaker 4: people that were released or in their upper thirties, even
Speaker 4: in their forties. Do AW want to bring more old people?
Speaker 4: You know? I have twice their age and I'm calling
Speaker 4: them old people, you know, but you understand what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So here, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1: A couple a couple of things that I think we've
Speaker 1: learned from some of the talent that's come from WWE
Speaker 1: to AW, and I think they're going to keep a
Speaker 1: bigger eye on this. There are individuals who will never
Speaker 1: let go of wanting to go back to WWE. And
Speaker 1: I don't remember who did the interview, but they talked
Speaker 1: about the trauma of working there, and they didn't mean
Speaker 1: traumas in like you come away and you're non functioning being,
Speaker 1: But there's just an emotional way of thinking that they
Speaker 1: get stuck so they leave. They will not lose anybody
Speaker 1: or job to anybody who is in a former WWE talent,
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's the case for sure,
Speaker 1: with mal Kai Black, but I know I never took
Speaker 1: a pin from anybody who didn't work in WWE previously
Speaker 1: the entire time he was in aw same thing, similar,
Speaker 1: similar stuff with Ruscev, similar stuff with some other people.
Speaker 1: If they bring folks in now, they need to bring
Speaker 1: people in who are willing to invest the time to
Speaker 1: reinvent themselves and look at it as a fresh run.
Speaker 1: People like a Ricochet, people like an Adam Copeland who
Speaker 1: wants to do something different for the last couple of
Speaker 1: years of his career. That's why when I think of
Speaker 1: younger talent like Coora Jaide, I would be I would
Speaker 1: be maybe on the fence about her. I think as
Speaker 1: somebody who came up through their system, she may never
Speaker 1: let go of that. Are you're going to get somebody
Speaker 1: who really wants to compete. She's young, so she's not
Speaker 1: going to have the sway to refuse to job, but
Speaker 1: I'd be concerned about that. D Koda Kai is the
Speaker 1: one that I'd focus on. Go ahead, Kelson, anyone, I.
Speaker 4: Want to address your cor j a thing, because Cordjate
Speaker 4: is who I wanted to talk about. Cord j Aid
Speaker 4: is one of the women who did perform in AW.
Speaker 4: She had two matches in AW, one a singles match
Speaker 4: against Red Velvet, which he lost, and then a tag
Speaker 4: team match against Red Velvet and somebody else and they
Speaker 4: lost that too, and she lost that too. But cord Jade,
Speaker 4: of course, when she did that, I think she was
Speaker 4: eighteen years old or nineteen years old. She's very young, right,
Speaker 4: court j AD's still young. She's twenty four. Now to
Speaker 4: your point, there's two things I want to bring up,
Speaker 4: so bear with me. Or to your point, cord j
Speaker 4: did come out after she was released from WWE and
Speaker 4: did say that she was body shamed by producers, management,
Speaker 4: whatever at WWE, which to me is preposterous. That should
Speaker 4: never happen to any wrestler. By Okay, that's one thing, Okay,
Speaker 4: I just want to put that out there so that
Speaker 4: may put a little bit of a d emper on
Speaker 4: your point that she wants to go back there. Maybe
Speaker 4: that'd be like I wouldn't go back there or anything
Speaker 4: similar to what Ricochet said saying that came out last
Speaker 4: week and said basically, WWE killed my passion for professional wrestling,
Speaker 4: AW rekindled it. The second point I want to make
Speaker 4: is this cor Jade, who is now going by your
Speaker 4: original name of Elena Black. Elena Black made a post
Speaker 4: on Twitter asking her fans who she would like to
Speaker 4: who they would like to see her wrestle, you know,
Speaker 4: book just booker, and immediately, I think was the first
Speaker 4: response was Julia Hart and at her response was hey
Speaker 4: at Julia Art. You know, she basically called her out,
Speaker 4: you know, so there may be something that the works
Speaker 4: with Corde. Of all the people that I saw on
Speaker 4: the list, cor j would be number one because as
Speaker 4: people probably know about me, as far as who I
Speaker 4: think they should sign. I don't want a w to
Speaker 4: sign somebody like Basler or any any of these older
Speaker 4: older guys and older women, because we've got that already.
Speaker 4: We got her Karasheta on the on the women's side,
Speaker 4: you know, and ReHO that that they're not using sign somebody.
Speaker 4: If you're going to sign somebody, sign somebody like kor
Speaker 4: Jaide that you will use. Don't forget. We still got
Speaker 4: Rig of Honor over there. That Yeah, if you look
Speaker 4: at the rig of Honor roster, it's not that deep
Speaker 4: at a lot of the people that are on the
Speaker 4: Ring of Honor roster are on the aw roster if
Speaker 4: they signed somebody's young stars like Kor Jade Uh and
Speaker 4: some of these other specifically the women that were that
Speaker 4: were released from a from WWE, and just put them
Speaker 4: on the Ring of Honor roster and let the build
Speaker 4: themselves up into the AW. Look, at some point AW
Speaker 4: needs to treat Ring a boater like NXT. I hate
Speaker 4: to say it, but they do.
Speaker 1: They need a better TV product there. But there's there's
Speaker 1: really only four people from the releases that I think
Speaker 1: you could seriously look at. Braun isn't one of them.
Speaker 1: He's in his mid mid forties now, his body's falling apart.
Speaker 1: He's not the brouni Wes five or six years ago. Right,
Speaker 1: You don't want to invest in that. He's going to
Speaker 1: ask for a ton of money. He doesn't really work
Speaker 1: in AW. But on the women's side, you've got corge A, Gigi, Joelan,
Speaker 1: Dakota Kai, and SHANEA. Basler. To your point, Baseler's in
Speaker 1: her mid mid four I think she's forty four, mid forties.
Speaker 1: Unless she's got a short term program with somebody like
Speaker 1: Ronda Rowsey, I don't see where she really fits in
Speaker 1: or it's or it's really worth investing. Dakota Kai has
Speaker 1: a lot of history of many performers in AW. She's
Speaker 1: in her mid thirties. She could work a style that's safer.
Speaker 1: She's been banged up a little bit, so take it
Speaker 1: easy with her. She's somebody you could consider if you've
Speaker 1: got the right stuff. Gigi Dolan is the one I'm
Speaker 1: the least familiar with, but she's she's got some good
Speaker 1: talent and I think you can do some stuff with her.
Speaker 1: And then we already talked about core J. My only
Speaker 1: concern with some of them is were they in WWE
Speaker 1: too long? Where they don't you know, they would always
Speaker 1: think about going back there. I know people say a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff online. We had CM Punk cut multiple
Speaker 1: promos on AW television about how terrible WWE is and
Speaker 1: look where he is now. So talk to money. Money
Speaker 1: does a lot like people. People will go back on
Speaker 1: stuff they said. But there's some options there, and well, dude,
Speaker 1: I can see some one or one or two coming
Speaker 1: in sure.
Speaker 5: To Kelson's point, though, I could see them signing every
Speaker 5: single one of them and putting him in R O
Speaker 5: H because that gives you a bigger base to work within.
Speaker 3: R O h uh. Even Strowman. I mean, he's he's
Speaker 3: he's older, he's.
Speaker 1: He's million dollars a year for all of them though Sudden.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a lot of money to sign all
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, But in ever gonna get to the
Speaker 5: point where they're going to earn a TV spot other
Speaker 5: than r o H TV, they're.
Speaker 3: Gonna have to have a deeper roster. You got to.
Speaker 3: You gotta have people to do that.
Speaker 5: And although he might get hurt a lot and he
Speaker 5: might cost a little bit, he's gonna be a.
Speaker 3: Draw for r O H.
Speaker 5: I just think that if they were gonna bring these
Speaker 5: people in, put him on r H, maybe put a
Speaker 5: couple of them in AW exclusively, both put the remainder
Speaker 5: of them in r o H and build that ROH
Speaker 5: roster up.
Speaker 4: Yeah. You know, one thing that I want to point
Speaker 4: out here is Corra Jade. You know, I said that
Speaker 4: she would be a good signing. However, she is a
Speaker 4: good buddy of Sampunk first of all, and I believe
Speaker 4: it was not too very long ago where she had
Speaker 4: said some disparaging things about AW as all Gigi Dolans Barry.
Speaker 4: You do know that she was married to an aw wrestler. No,
Speaker 4: who's that Darby Allen. She's Darby Allen's ex wife. Really, yeah,
Speaker 4: so you're looking at there are intangibles with everything, you know,
Speaker 4: so you could argue for it against it, Like would
Speaker 4: Darby Allen want his ex wife that he divorced that
Speaker 4: were that he or she divorced filed for divorce in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, they may have had an amicable breakup. You
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I don't know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know. And of course Darby Allen may
Speaker 4: not survive Mount Everest because the idiots climbing the mountain
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 3: Did you see?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he set a world record.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I told you when when he reaches the keyboard. Well,
Speaker 4: I'm not worried as much worried about Darby Allen climbing
Speaker 4: Mount Everest is the way he's going to come down,
Speaker 4: because I made a joke saying he's just going to
Speaker 4: take a dive right off the cliff there into a
Speaker 4: bucket of water at the base, because that's just what
Speaker 4: Darby would do.
Speaker 2: It's going to go through a table, through a table, go.
Speaker 4: Through a glass, and through a puddle of water.
Speaker 5: That's Does anybody know who he's climbing with, because I don't.
Speaker 5: He's got a somebody from one of the indies with
Speaker 5: him and they're going to have a match at the top,
Speaker 5: so the world match.
Speaker 4: I'm not the only thing I've heard about that is
Speaker 4: that he's going to plant an a W flag at
Speaker 4: the top of Yeah. I don't think that somebody would
Speaker 4: be wrestling on top of at the second a bount everest.
Speaker 1: Uh, Like you get a specific time and like if
Speaker 1: you miss it, you don't that's it. You have to
Speaker 1: go back like they don't wait for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: He's probably cued up right about now. I m gets
Speaker 5: so much time to do kickflips.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So all right, let's move on because you know
Speaker 4: what as a the hurt Syndicate. Okay, let's talk about
Speaker 4: the hurts of it, because we know that we have
Speaker 4: uh MGF trying to get into the Hurt Syndicate, and
Speaker 4: of the three guys in the Hurt Syndicate, he needs
Speaker 4: three thumbs up and m v P has given him
Speaker 4: a thumbs up. Benjamin Shelton, as whole Colgan would say,
Speaker 4: has given him a thumbs up. Have you seen that?
Speaker 1: I can't believe that just.
Speaker 4: Once they had three different interviews that he's done and
Speaker 4: then and then.
Speaker 1: Chef's kiss.
Speaker 4: What did he say?
Speaker 1: Because I'm not ware he used he did a he
Speaker 1: quoted or something and he said in the words of
Speaker 1: Will Smith and it was the him smacking Chris Bock
Speaker 1: keep your keep your name out of my mouth or
Speaker 1: out of my mouth or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was Shelton is now. Shelton Benjamin is now
Speaker 4: my favorite wrestler at a.
Speaker 1: W He has shown I would never cross that.
Speaker 4: Terrifying. He is scary, you know, but he's like he's
Speaker 4: like powerhouse Hobbs. He looks scary as hell. But there's
Speaker 4: something about Shelton Begement when you look at it, he
Speaker 4: looks like a big pussy cat WM.
Speaker 1: He's got a warm face. But man, when that guy
Speaker 1: furrows his brow and like leans forward like it's.
Speaker 2: He's always laughing. Whenever they're they're talking, you catch his face.
Speaker 1: He's he's got a real warm face.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's It's weird because the whole thing with
Speaker 4: the Hurt Syndicate is that they hurt people and they're
Speaker 4: supposed to be very stoic, and Shelton Benjamin just can't
Speaker 4: hold it together. And it cracks me up. Why I
Speaker 4: love that. He reminds me of story of a new
Speaker 4: over in stardom where her whole thing is to be
Speaker 4: never smiling, and she sucks at it. She's cracking up
Speaker 4: the entire time, and it's but it works. It works
Speaker 4: because it makes them more endearing. But look, does anybody
Speaker 4: here think that m j F is going to join
Speaker 4: the Hurt? Said Kate in the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 5: The theory I keep seeing going around is that m
Speaker 5: JF is going to turn, He's going to join the
Speaker 5: Hurts and to get turned on him and bring back
Speaker 5: with F t R and all this other stuff. And
Speaker 5: they're talking about bringing back his original group.
Speaker 3: I think that.
Speaker 4: What was it what was that called? Again?
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I thought it was a legit question.
Speaker 4: It wasn't question. But I wanted to see a sudden struggle.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 3: That's how important it was. It didn't matter.
Speaker 5: Uh, that's all you see people talking about, Oh, he's
Speaker 5: going to come back, he's gonna do He's not going
Speaker 5: to do that. He's going to join the Hurt Syndicate.
Speaker 5: He's going to run with the get into he gets
Speaker 5: what he wants, then he's gonna screw him over. It's
Speaker 5: not gonna happen in the next month or two. It's
Speaker 5: probably gonna happen next year. But yeah, I see him
Speaker 5: joining the hurt thing to get I see him. I
Speaker 5: just haven't figured out who he's going to hurt to
Speaker 5: get there.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna go to net here with a questions
Speaker 4: specifically meant for net net all right, so what would
Speaker 4: you think of this typotheticals? Answer to this? What about
Speaker 4: at the last minute the hurts that they it brings
Speaker 4: in Cedric Alexander.
Speaker 2: Mmmmm, I don't think so, you don't. No, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't see him with them, No, you don't.
Speaker 3: M No.
Speaker 2: I think MJF is going to wrestle Bobby lastly and
Speaker 2: that's how he's gonna get in there.
Speaker 4: I thought about that, that that could be a match
Speaker 4: at double or nothing winning your.
Speaker 2: N Yeah, I think that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So let's throw a layer on this because like MJF
Speaker 1: is a vindictive little guy, right, We've seen him do that.
Speaker 1: Like the whole Pinnacle thing was revenge on some slight
Speaker 1: christ Jericho did to him. I don't remember in the
Speaker 1: promo what he said, but so MJF so far has
Speaker 1: been embarrassed and he doesn't like to be embarrassed, and
Speaker 1: when you embarrass him, he plots against you. What if
Speaker 1: to join the Hurt Syndicate, you know, Bobby said, you
Speaker 1: got to hurt somebody. What if Mgf's like, I got somebody,
Speaker 1: And what if the person that comes out is Cedter
Speaker 1: Glexander and he beats Seder Alexander in front of the
Speaker 1: Hurt kids, forcing them to give him the thumbs up
Speaker 1: because he did what Bobby Lashley told him you need
Speaker 1: to do to join, and that's how he starts his match.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a good thought, give me the buck.
Speaker 1: That's how assuming money was no object, nobody worried about
Speaker 1: long term booking, That's how i'd hot shot it.
Speaker 3: So what do you do with after that?
Speaker 4: I ahead, hey, look here's what I I like the
Speaker 4: idea of the winning your in thing, But I think
Speaker 4: it's not going to be MJF against Bobby Lashley because
Speaker 4: you still have Shelton Benjamin sitting right there. I think
Speaker 4: they're going to tell MJF to get a partner and
Speaker 4: to at double or nothing. Do a win and you're
Speaker 4: in against Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin. Wouldn't it be
Speaker 4: great if you somehow, some way stupidly gets somebody that
Speaker 4: knows the Hurt syndicate better than anybody. Centria Alexander and
Speaker 4: MJF against Shelton Benjamin and Bobby Lashley at double or nothing.
Speaker 7: So if they win, does wells a title shot?
Speaker 4: Guys?
Speaker 1: We pinned it's only fair right right, chow right, bunny
Speaker 1: right there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Celtic there, it would probably be a non title
Speaker 4: shot or probably just be a win in your in
Speaker 4: kind of thing where Shelton Benjamin and Bobby Lashley look
Speaker 4: at Cedric Alexander and MJF saying, if you can beat us,
Speaker 4: you're in. They want Cedric to prove himself just as
Speaker 4: much as MGF. But in the end, Cedric Alexander's already
Speaker 4: in and he screws over m JF, you know, and
Speaker 4: that's how.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you a lot of options there. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Cedric's coming in or not. I mean, it would
Speaker 1: be fun There's there's plenty of ways to use him
Speaker 1: if he does.
Speaker 4: But I think I think it would be funny if
Speaker 4: they do say, get you to MGF, get yourself a partner,
Speaker 4: And somehow, some way, m JF and Adam Cole come
Speaker 4: face to face and they kind of look at each
Speaker 4: other and they were like, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Not backstage, that'd be I think they should absolutely do that.
Speaker 1: If they If they do that, I think that's a
Speaker 1: comedy bit you can't pass up. And then they're just
Speaker 1: like you can see him consider They're like yeah, and
Speaker 1: then they just.
Speaker 4: Walk off and that JF joins the Paragon.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but somebody, somebody in a double mask kind of
Speaker 8: ruins it for the all four of them.
Speaker 5: We're taking we're taking the book away, and it's Wendy
Speaker 5: Richter who does get the belt off them?
Speaker 1: Like I've been trying to think long term, like who
Speaker 1: who unseats them? It's gotta be it can't be like
Speaker 1: the only team that isn't like a big jack dudes
Speaker 1: right now that's believable as FTR because they're arguably the
Speaker 1: greatest tag team in the world, and I think they're
Speaker 1: believable is and they may be setting that program up,
Speaker 1: but other than them, like, who's believable to beat those
Speaker 1: guys for the straps?
Speaker 4: Right now? The I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't believe the young but in real life, not
Speaker 1: even in wrestling life, I don't believe the Bucks to
Speaker 1: beat these guys.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing. The you've got to build. This
Speaker 4: goes back to what I was saying about Core Jade
Speaker 4: being to You've got to get at some point, you've
Speaker 4: got to pass the buck. You've got to go from
Speaker 4: the old guard to the new guard. You need a
Speaker 4: young team to be young tag teams to be more viable.
Speaker 2: I know who i'd like to see do it well,
Speaker 2: please enlighten.
Speaker 6: Us, Mike Bailey.
Speaker 4: There you go. That's a great, great team. I thought
Speaker 4: you were gonna say Eddie Kingston and somebody else that
Speaker 4: couldn't wrestle.
Speaker 6: I would like to see Kevin and Mike do it.
Speaker 2: That's that's where I think the money is.
Speaker 1: Kevin's busy for a bit, But I I have enjoyed
Speaker 1: them as a tag team net and I think I
Speaker 1: think they should keep those two together. Yeah, they're a lot.
Speaker 4: You know, when we were talking about the attach and arena,
Speaker 4: that would be the perfect if they do what Barry said,
Speaker 4: that would be the perfect time for Eddie Kingston to
Speaker 4: come back again. That you know, and totally muck up
Speaker 4: the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you can do that.
Speaker 1: At the end, when so say the Death Writers win
Speaker 1: and it looks all is lost for the you know,
Speaker 1: for the baby faces. Again, that's Eddie's return because he
Speaker 1: doesn't even he doesn't even need to be in ring shape.
Speaker 1: Is like, he's clear to get out there and you know,
Speaker 1: do a little bun.
Speaker 4: Wait wait a minute, Wait a minute, did you say
Speaker 4: what did you use the terms Eddie Kingston had ring
Speaker 4: shape in the same sentence.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know it.
Speaker 6: I knew Kelson is going to have a part.
Speaker 1: That's what That's why.
Speaker 7: I look for that documentary.
Speaker 4: Remember, remember that Eddie Kingston has a love mostly love
Speaker 4: relationship with John Moxley. What if what if Wheeler you
Speaker 4: to betrays the Death Writers? Like everybody thinks that he's
Speaker 4: going to do, but it's Eddie kinks that it takes
Speaker 4: out Wheeler you to enjoy the Death Writers. I would
Speaker 4: love that because that I would be.
Speaker 7: Eddie.
Speaker 4: A lot of people, a lot of people I personally don't.
Speaker 5: Yeh, Eddie's going to be back when John Moxley loses
Speaker 5: the title, and.
Speaker 3: He's going to be the way they bring Moxley. Back
Speaker 3: to Moxley. That's what Eddie Kingston's role is going to be.
Speaker 5: He's not going to get involved in anything else to
Speaker 5: do with the Death Riders until Max had because eventually
Speaker 5: I see the death Writers completely turning on mox where
Speaker 5: he's on his own, and that's when Eddie steps in
Speaker 5: to help him.
Speaker 1: Come can manage them without needing to take bumps and stuff,
Speaker 1: but he can go out and cut promos and be
Speaker 1: on TV and stuff.
Speaker 3: Management. I think it's just going to be friend kind
Speaker 3: of thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't mean a formally a manager, right man, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's his right hand guy. He's the he's the hype guy.
Speaker 1: He's the hype man.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I can see that being the way
Speaker 5: they run it because in the end it comes full
Speaker 5: circle for Eddie and MUCKs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that would be able to be a way
Speaker 4: to keep Eddie Kingston involved in a W N a
Speaker 4: W stories until he does get back in rig shape.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta have an and stokely zero hour match.
Speaker 4: So there you go.
Speaker 1: The mic because Snowle's quick, his style is so different
Speaker 1: than Eddie's, Like they're so both so quick on the
Speaker 1: mic I'd love to see them for like just five
Speaker 1: minutes going back and forth on the pre show cutting
Speaker 1: each other down.
Speaker 4: Oh well, you know, Barry, would you to that question? Though?
Speaker 4: Who's who's around that could actually challenge the hurt syndicated
Speaker 4: go you go right back to the Death Riders with
Speaker 4: Pack being injured. Uh, Claudio CASAGOI and Wheeler Una could
Speaker 4: be a team that could go after them.
Speaker 1: Or I would even see like, like say Mox gets
Speaker 1: to thrones. I don't think Wheeler's big enough, but Claudia
Speaker 1: and Mox would be I legitimate competitor attacks.
Speaker 4: I think. I think that once Mox gets the throne, though,
Speaker 4: I think that he's going to disappear for a few
Speaker 4: weeks to reset because it's just too much, you know, the.
Speaker 5: Whole He gave up his vacation last year to go
Speaker 5: into all this stuff, so you know, Max hasn't been
Speaker 5: on vacation forever and he Doe, So I kind of
Speaker 5: think that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: I think I know people.
Speaker 1: I know people haven't liked this, and I'm sorry something
Speaker 1: I know I spoke over you. I apologize. I know
Speaker 1: people have hated this storyline. It started out it got
Speaker 1: us all going. It seems like something didn't work out.
Speaker 1: They had to do a change in direction. Oddly, the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks has been the best this whole
Speaker 1: program has ever been, and we're all sick of it.
Speaker 1: As bad as all that been. In all the challenges,
Speaker 1: John Moxley has proven once again he is a company
Speaker 1: man and he will do what's asked. Tony gave him this,
Speaker 1: it didn't work and mox has done everything he can
Speaker 1: to do everything he could to keep this going forward.
Speaker 1: And like I know, people say mox is in the
Speaker 1: ace of aw it's Kenny Omega, and I would argue
Speaker 1: till I'm blue in the face, it is John Moxley.
Speaker 1: When the going gets tough, they've put the belt on him.
Speaker 1: He's gotten him through trouble times. He's doing it again
Speaker 1: and he's going to do the job to somebody. And
Speaker 1: like you said, he'll disappear and he'll come back and
Speaker 1: everybody will lose their mind and be so happy mox
Speaker 1: is back again. Because he's not an original or whatever,
Speaker 1: but John Moxley is AW.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have nothing but respectful with John Moxley's done.
Speaker 4: Ray w what he's doing. I mean he I agree
Speaker 4: with you. He puts himself out there and he absolutely
Speaker 4: just does what needs to be done. But my god,
Speaker 4: the storyline is so dead. It is so bad. It
Speaker 4: is bad. But there is another team that there is
Speaker 4: another team that's out there that could challenge to hurt Syndicate.
Speaker 4: There's one more that I could think of the Acclaimed.
Speaker 3: M I don't see the Acclaim getting really.
Speaker 4: I think the Acclaim will get back together. It's gonna
Speaker 4: take it takes some time because Max Caster is obviously
Speaker 4: not the same wrestler that he was without Anthony Bowens
Speaker 4: and Anthony Bowenes. I think it'll get to the point
Speaker 4: where he's gonna have great matches, but he's just not
Speaker 4: gonna be able to get there without Max Caster. I
Speaker 4: think it's gonna come. I think the story is going
Speaker 4: to be that these guys are great together for great
Speaker 4: on their own too, but they really need each other.
Speaker 4: And I think I think Billy Gone will be the
Speaker 4: catalyst for that. Before Billy God rides off at.
Speaker 1: The Sunset Helson, I hadn't considered that before, and I
Speaker 1: thought they need to be split and that's it. And
Speaker 1: then because when I would think the Acclaim getting back together.
Speaker 1: I would think the acclaimed that we're used to with
Speaker 1: the cheesy promos and the scissor Me and all that
Speaker 1: kind of crap. But looking at them and how they're
Speaker 1: both trying to form very new characters and Bowens will
Speaker 1: take some time, but I think he'll crack it. How
Speaker 1: over he'll get, we'll see. But Max cast has some
Speaker 1: legitimate acting chops, and his chant that is stupid is
Speaker 1: getting over. As I predicular, I said, it's over.
Speaker 7: It's good, it's yeah, but right, yeah, did you see collision?
Speaker 4: But he did. He was like he's like he almost
Speaker 4: had like almost disappointedly, just like, oh my god, they're
Speaker 4: actually doing the change.
Speaker 7: The crowd is.
Speaker 1: Doing it and like legit, He's like, you guys are
Speaker 1: all out of pace and everybody can hear they're perfect.
Speaker 4: I knew it was going to get over.
Speaker 1: But like it looks like they're going in the He
Speaker 1: believes in himself and he's starting to get upset that
Speaker 1: he can't be the wrestler he believes he is. And
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen that, I hope they put it
Speaker 1: on TV. I think this is a Will Washington thing
Speaker 1: if I'm right, And I really hope they keep exploring this.
Speaker 1: Max has some legitimate acting chops, Bowens will do his thing.
Speaker 1: Let him run with this for a little while. If
Speaker 1: they come back as the acclaimed, I don't want them
Speaker 1: as the scissor me acclaimed. I want them as Max
Speaker 1: Caster and Anthony Bowen's acclaimed. Whatever these new characters are
Speaker 1: when they get together, because they're stronger together than alone.
Speaker 1: I don't want the old characters. I want these new
Speaker 1: ones with some neat and personality to them that we
Speaker 1: can sink our team.
Speaker 4: To be clear, I'm not talking about you know, in
Speaker 4: time for all In or something. I'm talking about it
Speaker 4: like next, next year or something. Revolution. Yeah, let's just
Speaker 4: let's do a build. A w has proven that they
Speaker 4: could do a really good build with characters like this
Speaker 4: and Mack's Caster for how ridiculously stupid he is, this
Speaker 4: character it works. Yeah. Well, I look forward to see
Speaker 4: him get absolutely destroyed every week, and that is let's
Speaker 4: go back to you're the best wrestler, a live chance.
Speaker 1: I think this week with the timer is this is
Speaker 1: the new stick until it's going to be five weeks
Speaker 1: from now, and it may be at double or nothing
Speaker 1: where he gets this win. So he took Garcia. He
Speaker 1: didn't make it a mint this week, he'll make it two.
Speaker 1: The next time it'll be three, the next time it
Speaker 1: will be four, at double or nothing. Maybe on the
Speaker 1: pre show he'll get to five and that starts his
Speaker 1: his streak.
Speaker 4: I felt like they.
Speaker 1: Were going to build it that first big win, and
Speaker 1: that's in essence, actually going to turn the baby face.
Speaker 1: Whether they want them to or not, it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: But I think that clock is the start of that.
Speaker 4: And you know what, you know what, you know what
Speaker 4: I would like to see Barry is remember the last
Speaker 4: wrestler today w had that did a five minute minute challenge.
Speaker 4: I don't that would be so Rita Deeb go find
Speaker 4: the last five minutes with with the Professor. I would
Speaker 4: love for it to culminate with Serita deeb kicking the
Speaker 4: crap out of Max Caster in the middle of the ring,
Speaker 4: and that will just be like the best ever can
Speaker 4: can Max Caster go five minutes with the Professor?
Speaker 1: Marinos should come out and choke him out once that's
Speaker 1: one of the losses. I thought that was a great idea.
Speaker 2: Just choke them with no, just chokes them out right now?
Speaker 5: Well, to the did I win there?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Max? Yeah, I would pay to see the look on
Speaker 4: Maxcaster's face when he's when Marina Shabier gives a mother's milk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the won, and they have to show them. No Max,
Speaker 1: look here on the video she chokes you out.
Speaker 4: Show me show me that again.
Speaker 7: And we've written a whole bit like it would work.
Speaker 7: That's how it would work.
Speaker 5: To go to who's going to beat the Hurt Syndicate?
Speaker 3: I don't think they're in a w now. I don't
Speaker 3: think the team is together that's going to beat them.
Speaker 2: It's the Golden Lovers.
Speaker 4: Oh, there you go.
Speaker 1: You end up going to wrestle again?
Speaker 4: You are.
Speaker 1: I would pop the lovers.
Speaker 4: Well, look, let's let's move on because shades of I
Speaker 4: brought up and he has been bringing up this really
Speaker 4: interesting thing. ANIW has been running smaller venues for non
Speaker 4: pay per view shows. The only time that they've done
Speaker 4: a bigger venue really for non pay per view shows
Speaker 4: is like Grand Slam Australia, of course Grand Slam Mexico,
Speaker 4: which look these. When they started doing these smaller venue
Speaker 4: shows at the Esports Stadium in Arlington, Texas last year,
Speaker 4: I was not real confident about it. But once they
Speaker 4: got there, they remember they were doing a residency there.
Speaker 4: They'd had like six shows leading up into All In,
Speaker 4: including the Rig of Honor pay per view, and I
Speaker 4: loved those shows and it sold me on the smaller venues.
Speaker 4: And they've been doing smaller venues ever since the Hammerstein
Speaker 4: things like that. They're doing the uh the old ECW
Speaker 4: Arena in Philadelphia, you know what is it August and
Speaker 4: early September, including the Ring of Honor of pay per view,
Speaker 4: and that's going to be I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 4: But eventually we see, Like when they announced the show
Speaker 4: with CMLL at Arena Mexico, sixteen thousand, five hundred seat arena,
Speaker 4: they sold that sucker out quick, you know, So AWS
Speaker 4: cap there is going to come a time when AW
Speaker 4: will probably go to bigger arenas, especially since, let's face it,
Speaker 4: AW has momentum right now and WWE does not.
Speaker 3: Well you got to look at this way, Well, I
Speaker 3: fix something that ain't broken.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, why change you?
Speaker 3: And yeah, you're right, they're a vaig to be honest
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 5: Didn't this core didn't this like change to the smaller
Speaker 5: venues kind of coincide with the signing of the new
Speaker 5: TV deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
Speaker 4: Really not really because remember all In was in August
Speaker 4: of last year. They did these smaller venues, started these
Speaker 4: smaller venues leading up the all In. The TV deal
Speaker 4: wasn't signed until like okay, I.
Speaker 3: Was thinking it was more like towards the same.
Speaker 5: But to be honest about it, they've made their money
Speaker 5: from the TV deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have.
Speaker 5: To worry about selling out large stadiums all the time
Speaker 5: because they're doing what they're doing and making money from it,
Speaker 5: so there ain't no reason to change.
Speaker 3: And eventually they may have to, But why worry about
Speaker 3: it now? I mean you're selling out the stadiums, you've
Speaker 3: got do it.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of layers to that. I mean, live
Speaker 1: event touring isn't isn't the business model for for wrestling.
Speaker 1: WWE can do it and a lot of dates because
Speaker 1: they're WWE and they're hot, and then they can carry that.
Speaker 1: Aw doesn't need to because to your points in, the
Speaker 1: business model now is TV and even with WWE, that's
Speaker 1: what pays the bills. The live event gates are just
Speaker 1: sing on the cape for them. And when they were
Speaker 1: doing the larger stadiums when you get down or the
Speaker 1: arenas and you've got you know, ten thousand person arena
Speaker 1: and you get fifteen hundred, two thousand people in there,
Speaker 1: it sounds cavernous. It sounds bad. I'm glad they're running
Speaker 1: the smaller places because the crowds typically are more energetic.
Speaker 1: It's louder because it's smaller, you don't have that echo sound,
Speaker 1: and it's a smarter fan too, so they play the
Speaker 1: part a little more. And I want to come back
Speaker 1: to something I heard Brian al I think it was
Speaker 1: Brian Alvarez on Rutting Serve Radio or live one of
Speaker 1: the shows, and he was just talking about how in
Speaker 1: the heyday VCW, you know, they'd run and they'd have
Speaker 1: two thousand people or eighteen hundred people there, but those
Speaker 1: people were insane. It seemed like the hot, hottest promotion
Speaker 1: in the world, but it was only eighteen hundred people,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's like the energy is more important
Speaker 1: right now for them. Eventually it'll get to a point, Sutton,
Speaker 1: if they get hot and they they are selling out
Speaker 1: these thirty five hundred places.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I love seeing like the Masonic Temple Detroit. You guys,
Speaker 1: are in for a treat. It's gorgeous. I went there
Speaker 1: for a couple couple concerts in high schools, like I like,
Speaker 1: I love the Hammerstein. I hope they don't stop doing those.
Speaker 1: But at some point you are going to be leaving
Speaker 1: money on the table if you get hot, and you're
Speaker 1: going to have to run some bigger arenas. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: maybe they only get sixty five hundred or seven ten
Speaker 1: thousand person arena, but the alternative and you jack up
Speaker 1: the prices and the smaller ones. And I think AW
Speaker 1: is trying to focus on being affordable right now. That's
Speaker 1: how they can get market share because they can't they
Speaker 1: can't charge, you know, higher prices, so they can't fill it.
Speaker 1: But make it a deal. You can bring your family
Speaker 1: for one hundred bucks, family of five, you know, like
Speaker 1: that's you can't do that in WW you can't even
Speaker 1: get a ticket. So there's there's opportunities there and I
Speaker 1: like it. I think it's been a good business move. Kelson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, very My my daughter, my son
Speaker 4: in law were visiting this this weekend and they actually
Speaker 4: you're watching collision. They open up their phones and they
Speaker 4: bought tickets to go see double or nothing. And I
Speaker 4: asked them, I was like, would you mind telling me
Speaker 4: how much the tickets were, you know, in total? And
Speaker 4: they told me, and I can't remember how much it was,
Speaker 4: but I was looking online today somebody was posting that
Speaker 4: they bought tickets to Raw or something like that, and
Speaker 4: and uh, the take to two tickets for Raw came
Speaker 4: out to like seven hundred dollars somewhere in that area.
Speaker 4: And it was nowhere near what my, well, my family
Speaker 4: paid to go see this. Uh, she just posted my
Speaker 4: daughters in the uh in the chat and she said
Speaker 4: it was two hundred dollars for both of us combined.
Speaker 4: And then the park and they said that included the parking,
Speaker 4: and that's a pay per view. And they're not up
Speaker 4: in the nosebleeds either. They're like not on the floor,
Speaker 4: but they're like in the first row near near to well,
Speaker 4: I think from what they showed me, it's like they're
Speaker 4: the first row kind of between the ring and the stage.
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 1: I had my buddy fly in from Atlanta to do
Speaker 1: Worlds in here in Orlando, and I got my season
Speaker 1: ticket basketball tickets because I got basketball tickets here. But
Speaker 1: we were on the Herd. I mean, we were on
Speaker 1: camera the whole time, about three rows up. If you
Speaker 1: look back, you'll see a guy with a black cool
Speaker 1: suplex brow T shirt. That's me. I paid one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty bucks apiece for those for both me and
Speaker 1: my buddy, and that included parking, you know. And that's
Speaker 1: the second pay per view I've had seats like that. No,
Speaker 1: it was a Dynamite before that, the Dynamite before World's
Speaker 1: and two years ago, same thing on camera the whole time,
Speaker 1: same price like it does if you do ringsides, it's
Speaker 1: ringside seats, but like the rest of the stadium. I
Speaker 1: think when I was looking at the double or nothing
Speaker 1: tickets in the upper deck, it's like thirty five dollars
Speaker 1: for the cost of entry. And you can bring a
Speaker 1: family to that, you know, or even somebody who's not serious,
Speaker 1: like I'll go check out wrestling this weekend. Whatever, it's
Speaker 1: a big show, let's go check it out. It's thirty bucks,
Speaker 1: a big deal. We had somebody in the forum who
Speaker 1: they were in town and they were thinking of going,
Speaker 1: but it didn't work for the budget, you know, And
Speaker 1: I was just like whatever, I just scored on a
Speaker 1: ticket because it's cheap enough that you can just do
Speaker 1: that for people you don't even know, just just to
Speaker 1: do a favor and pay it forward to some folks
Speaker 1: because it's affordable, and that's the way they can they
Speaker 1: can grow their market and then once they get saturated,
Speaker 1: bring the prices up for now attack making it affordable. Man,
Speaker 1: that's your opportunity exactly. I agree with you one hundred
Speaker 1: percent there. Look, this is something you know. We're going
Speaker 1: to go ahead and move on to pot Marie. I'm
Speaker 1: going to start because this is my pope, Pirie. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at WWE and AW.
Speaker 4: The biggest difference is is that WWE has been around
Speaker 4: for decades and AW has been around for half a decade.
Speaker 4: So WWE product and its wrestlers are going to have
Speaker 4: name recognition where AW isn't going to have that instant
Speaker 4: name recognition. Guess what, that's not always going to be
Speaker 4: the case. And by making AW affordable and letting people
Speaker 4: go out there that wouldn't necessarily go see a wrestling show,
Speaker 4: my daughter, my son in law being an example, they
Speaker 4: had never watched AW before until Collision, and when they
Speaker 4: watched Collision, they went out and they bought tickets for
Speaker 4: Double or Nothing. Funnily enough, right, they were watching the
Speaker 4: show and they saw the advertisements, you know, around the
Speaker 4: arena for double or Nothing. Okay, keep in mind, this
Speaker 4: is the first time that they're watching AW show live. Right.
Speaker 4: They didn't realize that Double or Nothing was a pay
Speaker 4: per view. They thought it was like a regular TV show.
Speaker 4: They bought tickets, right, and then they told me, Hey,
Speaker 4: guess what, we just bought tickets to this double or
Speaker 4: Nothing thing. I was like, that's not That's not a
Speaker 4: TV show. That's a six hour pay per view. I said,
Speaker 4: I hope you took the next day off because you're
Speaker 4: going to be exhausted by the type that happens well
Speaker 4: by the time. But my point is is that as
Speaker 4: you bring in more new people and word of mouth
Speaker 4: gets out there, you know, wwe' is no longer going
Speaker 4: to have that advantage of the name recognition of the product.
Speaker 4: More people eventually are going to know what AW is.
Speaker 4: And so, let's face it, I honestly believe that AW
Speaker 4: is a better wrestling product than WWE. I honestly believe that,
Speaker 4: not saying that WWE is a bad wrestling product. That
Speaker 4: is not what I'm saying. I'm saying that it is
Speaker 4: not as good as AW. And when it comes to
Speaker 4: a pay per view like double or nothing is compared
Speaker 4: to WrestleMania forty one. I don't think there's any comparison
Speaker 4: as far as how much wrestling you're going to see.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying. So there are two different products.
Speaker 4: There's no Look, if if AW had copied the model
Speaker 4: for WWE, what would be.
Speaker 1: The point they would have failed? I think if they
Speaker 1: would fled, why have WWE light when you have WWE exactly?
Speaker 4: Now you have WWE and you have AW. They've establish themselves.
Speaker 4: They're different that it's been established that they're different. I mean,
Speaker 4: wrestling is still professional wrestling, don't get me wrong. And
Speaker 4: it cracks me up with people said, say this is
Speaker 4: new and we're seeing something we've never seen before. This
Speaker 4: is new. Pretty much every storyline in professional wrestling has
Speaker 4: been done before. I would even say even the timeless
Speaker 4: Tony Storm thing. Gorgeous George probably did the same thing
Speaker 4: back in the sixties or whenever he was wrestling.
Speaker 1: Every story is done and everything that's just how you
Speaker 1: tell it. You know, new stories. We just need a
Speaker 1: new way of telling it. I mean the Tony Storm
Speaker 1: that was I mean, that was what was the movie
Speaker 1: all about, Eve about how they told it. You know
Speaker 1: they they even ripped that off. That's just how they
Speaker 1: told it. That's all we want.
Speaker 4: It was brilliant. Doesn't diminish it. But that's my pop. Yeah,
Speaker 4: who else has a pot pourri?
Speaker 3: I got one?
Speaker 4: The one.
Speaker 6: Go nit oh, okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: I notice how they've done two of the winner gets
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars matches with the men. I was
Speaker 2: thinking that they need to get a lot of people
Speaker 2: that are on the lower card, mid card, who you
Speaker 2: don't see on TV every week and put them in
Speaker 2: a big, you know, sixteen man match for a million
Speaker 2: dollars and really hype it up and really give somebody
Speaker 2: who maybe isn't a million dollar a year paycheck wrestler
Speaker 2: a chance for exposure and a million dollars in the bank.
Speaker 2: That's what I would like to see, and that's my
Speaker 2: big U lad.
Speaker 1: To start a push form like like the next big
Speaker 1: MiG carder. That's the start of kind of like a
Speaker 1: like a a more upper card push.
Speaker 4: A million dollars maybe a little bit too much.
Speaker 1: Though, I mean million dollars. Who cares just.
Speaker 4: Something for for like the lower card wrestlers, get them
Speaker 4: like five lifetime uh pastry something like.
Speaker 6: That, million dollars and really hype it up.
Speaker 2: So people working out and building alliances and you know,
Speaker 2: getting trained by the the older wrestlers, making a whole thing,
Speaker 2: and who can get in there and win a million bucks?
Speaker 4: Look at us, Look at us spending Tony CON's money.
Speaker 2: That yeah, look at us.
Speaker 1: That's a way to get people on TV that aren't
Speaker 1: doing that. That's one of the aw's issues is it's
Speaker 1: hard to get over if you're not on TV. You know,
Speaker 1: just figure out, look what happened Harley. They just kept
Speaker 1: her on TV and get Yeah, that's the way to
Speaker 1: keep you on TV.
Speaker 4: I would love for them to get rigavaor off of
Speaker 4: Hotter Club and put the body even if it's YouTube
Speaker 4: or you know, the CW or something something, you know,
Speaker 4: true TV, something, just to get them more accessible because
Speaker 4: people are not going to spend what is it, nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety nine a month for Otter Club because it's you know,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of ciccos out there, but there's not
Speaker 4: that many ciccos out there that would do that. You know,
Speaker 4: so all right, something, what's your pote prie.
Speaker 5: It kind of goes back to what we were talking
Speaker 5: about in the first one, how AEW and everything that's
Speaker 5: been done before.
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of people.
Speaker 5: Complaining about the I'm trying to remember what it was.
Speaker 5: There was the the whole thing with Tony and FTR
Speaker 5: and Nigel. They were saying that a wwe did it
Speaker 5: like the next week and we're complaining and said that
Speaker 5: it made a big difference because it was on AW
Speaker 5: the week before, and it makes a big difference because
Speaker 5: AAW's doing it and then they're doing it. And I
Speaker 5: was like, guys, it's all been done before. There's nothing
Speaker 5: new you're gonna find.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: I don't think even with the Tony storm, if it
Speaker 5: wasn't a repeat of a story in wrestling all about eves.
Speaker 5: You know, you guys talked about earlier, how you know
Speaker 5: they should have the acclaim get back together? How many
Speaker 5: times did you see DX have a fall out Seawn
Speaker 5: Michaels in Triple H and then get back together.
Speaker 3: It's all been done before. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 5: That was done a week later happened. But these people
Speaker 5: and this is a lot of the internet wrestling community
Speaker 5: are doing this.
Speaker 3: They're all like, Oh, it's such a big deal. Why
Speaker 3: why does it matter?
Speaker 5: I mean, you're gonna find I don't think there's anything
Speaker 5: that they're doing right now that hasn't been done.
Speaker 4: Before, right, And we wait, what we're doing here sing
Speaker 4: is predicting what we think may be part of the script.
Speaker 4: That's all. We're not geniuses, we're just based.
Speaker 3: But that's you know, I was.
Speaker 5: I was just like, I don't get how these people
Speaker 5: are making such a big deal because wwe did something
Speaker 5: that aw did a week later.
Speaker 4: It happens, you're going to read it. It's just.
Speaker 3: Love to see somebody.
Speaker 5: I would love to see somebody do something new, But honestly,
Speaker 5: what is there new to do?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So I've.
Speaker 1: I was an English major in college and take a
Speaker 1: lot of writing classes, and I do it as a
Speaker 1: hobby and I've continued to do it creatively. And there's
Speaker 1: a theory there's really only thirteen stories. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to repeat all of them. That's it. That through all history,
Speaker 1: there's thirteen stories, and it's you're you know, you got
Speaker 1: your guy finds a girl, guy loses the girl's story
Speaker 1: all sorts of there's only like thirteen Everything we see
Speaker 1: is just a remix of that. And there's a YouTube
Speaker 1: video called Everything's a Remix Ever got the name of
Speaker 1: the director. It's like a thirty minute documentary and it
Speaker 1: basically just shows how all media, music, even art, it's
Speaker 1: all remixes of each other. Right, And to your point, Sutton,
Speaker 1: it's all been done before. We don't really care that
Speaker 1: it's been done before. What we want to see is
Speaker 1: to do it in a new way. Like we already
Speaker 1: know where we're going. We all know the destination. We're
Speaker 1: totally cool with that. We watch movies every week where
Speaker 1: we know the good guys are going to win. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We want to see the journey. The journey
Speaker 1: and how you take us there is what we tune
Speaker 1: in for, you know. And to your point Earlierkelson, like,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of people talking about pro wrestling like it's
Speaker 1: two sporting teams and there's got to be a winner
Speaker 1: and a loser. Like if AW isn't your cup of
Speaker 1: tea cool, that's fine. If WWE is and your cup
Speaker 1: of tea cool, that's fine. But to your point, Kelson
Speaker 1: argue that either of these promotions is putting on bad TV.
Speaker 1: It's silly. You've got some of the best ing ring
Speaker 1: we're currently in the world happening on aw television. You've
Speaker 1: got the biggest, most laverished production value in the history
Speaker 1: of professional wrestling going on in WWE right now, stuff
Speaker 1: that nobody has seen on television, and two completely different
Speaker 1: perspectives that have two completely different audiences that have some overlap.
Speaker 1: And like, it's great. It's there's wrestling on five days
Speaker 1: on TV this week. It is a great time to
Speaker 1: be a fan. And I wish fans stopped talking about
Speaker 1: pro wrestling like at sports and I asked to be
Speaker 1: a winner or loser or somehow if you pick the
Speaker 1: right team, like awsing the Dump and it's just like
Speaker 1: Bro Triple Age isn't gonna sleep with you, man, Like
Speaker 1: let it go. Just be normal, be a normal person, right,
Speaker 1: they don't are if you're rooting for him, Like, just
Speaker 1: just watch wrestling and stop being.
Speaker 4: A dork, you know, and like you to your point, Barry,
Speaker 4: you know, we we have the a w fan Hub subreddit,
Speaker 4: and every once in a while you get people to say,
Speaker 4: why are you criticizing a w when you're an aw
Speaker 4: fan Hub subreddit. Look, this is the way I explain it.
Speaker 4: Let's say your favorite baseball team is the Boston Red
Speaker 4: Sox and they're the best team in the league this year.
Speaker 4: And I don't know, but let's just hypothetically say that
Speaker 4: the Boston Red Sox is the best team in the year.
Speaker 4: And if you're they go out one day and they're
Speaker 4: playing in New York Yankees and their pitcher can't throw
Speaker 4: a strike and he lays an egg, why not criticize
Speaker 4: the performance of that pitcher. And that's what we do
Speaker 4: at AW fan of Just because we love AW doesn't
Speaker 4: mean that we're gonna love everything that they do. And
Speaker 4: sometimes we don't like a whole storyline. Sometimes we just
Speaker 4: don't like that particular thing that happened that night. Sometimes,
Speaker 4: but more often and not, we love it. That's why
Speaker 4: we are AW fans. You understand what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: when you come to when you come to aw fan over,
Speaker 4: if you listen to this podcast, we're not going to
Speaker 4: be raw raw Raw. AW is the greatest thing in
Speaker 4: the world, you know, you know, let's go Max, We're
Speaker 4: the best, You're the best wrestler alive. That's not what
Speaker 4: we do here, we give our honest opinions about what
Speaker 4: we liked it we didn't like. Just because we don't
Speaker 4: like something doesn't mean that we all of a sudden
Speaker 4: hate AW. You know, it's just like that. We want
Speaker 4: to hear the right opinions, and the right opinion is
Speaker 4: what you actually feel.
Speaker 1: We have WWE fan primarily WWE fans that have been
Speaker 1: on the podcasts before, like on the on our discord,
Speaker 1: we have very active w W, E, NXT, TNA, New Japan,
Speaker 1: Joshi and AD Wrestling channels where we talk about like
Speaker 1: we're pro wrestling fans exactly for AW in the States.
Speaker 4: Like what separates like our discord is that even though
Speaker 4: we are a professional wrestling discord not a AW discord,
Speaker 4: everybody gets along. Everybody goes to the different channels. You know,
Speaker 4: I've been a I go to the w W channels
Speaker 4: and talk about w W. I keep up with it.
Speaker 4: I don't watch it with this much, you know. But
Speaker 4: you know, an interesting story or an interesting development or
Speaker 4: whatever is still interesting, doesn't matter if it's Josie, Do, Japan, TNA.
Speaker 4: We've got it all on our discord and exactly, and
Speaker 4: you know, we don't have tribalism on there. It's everybody
Speaker 4: gets a lot everywhere. Every once in a while you
Speaker 4: have somebody come in that's comes in with an agenda
Speaker 4: and guess what they're gone. It's plain and simple. You know,
Speaker 4: we're just wrestling pants talking about pro wrestling, whether it's
Speaker 4: a w w W or classic wrestling. I mean we
Speaker 4: talk about something happened, you know, before you were born,
Speaker 4: but that doesn't speaking.
Speaker 1: Of classic wrestling. I don't know if anybody has been
Speaker 1: following along and YouTube, but WWE has activated the old
Speaker 1: WCW channel right put all sorts of great stuff there,
Speaker 1: nitral watch alongs. There are pay per view watch alongs
Speaker 1: like if you love nineties WCW, like through the the
Speaker 1: early nWo era and stuff and want to see vintage
Speaker 1: Eddie Guerrero and like they I think they have some
Speaker 1: ECW stuff they were showing too. I think it was
Speaker 1: Steiner Brothers versus Eddie Gurero and somebody I don't remember,
Speaker 1: but like they're throwing all sorts of stuff from the
Speaker 1: vault and if you were bored and there's a watch along,
Speaker 1: go in that chat. It is a blast. It is
Speaker 1: a blast.
Speaker 5: Watch Yeah, they have an actual Live that runs constantly
Speaker 5: shows the same stuff in the loop unfortunately, but once
Speaker 5: it goes through and it starts back again, it'll add
Speaker 5: new stuff in.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they've got.
Speaker 4: All it'll be fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been it's been fun. It's been fun. I
Speaker 1: enjoy those channels a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's cool, And you know, I was much more,
Speaker 4: but I don't know about you guys. I was much
Speaker 4: more of a WCW guy than an WWE guy. But
Speaker 4: I did watch both of them. But I enjoyed WCW
Speaker 4: what it was in its heyday, not toward the end.
Speaker 4: Portiena was painful, so I was older.
Speaker 1: It was it was Luca that I actually fell in
Speaker 1: love with, because when I watched WCW, I loved I'd
Speaker 1: love I'd tune into Nitro and they'd start off with
Speaker 1: the hot Lucha match and then Brave mystereod Ivis matched
Speaker 1: Eddie Gere on all them like. It wasn't until years
Speaker 1: later that I realized one of the reasons I didn't
Speaker 1: enjoy WWE as much anymore is because I fell in
Speaker 1: love with with wrestling that was Luca, and I didn't
Speaker 1: even know what Luca was. I just enjoy and so like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I loved I'd love nineties mid nineties WCW.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was making fun of my daughter this past
Speaker 4: weekend when she was here, because when she was a
Speaker 4: little girl, we watch WCW and she'd be like laying
Speaker 4: right next to me watching it. And she was very
Speaker 4: intense watching this. And of course she loved the good guys,
Speaker 4: you know, and and when there was a cover and
Speaker 4: the good guy had to kick out at two point
Speaker 4: nine nine nine seconds, that little kid would kick out
Speaker 4: with all of her might. And so my daughter was
Speaker 4: like a little little bean laying next to me on
Speaker 4: the bed there just kicking out with her favorite wrestlers.
Speaker 4: I always thought it was cute.
Speaker 1: She was buried in six o five. Saturdays, we tuned
Speaker 1: TVs and over the receiver Detroit and we'd watch We'd
Speaker 1: watch Staying and Ric Flair. It was good times.
Speaker 4: Now this past weekend when we were watching wrestling, and
Speaker 4: I didn't see it, butter but but my son in
Speaker 4: law did say that when they were sitting there on
Speaker 4: the couch, I was sitting in the recliner and I
Speaker 4: couldn't see them. When somebody got covered, she did a
Speaker 4: kickout again. She kicked out, you know, just all those
Speaker 4: years later, you know, twenty twenty three years later, and
Speaker 4: she's still kicking out the good guys were getting I
Speaker 4: don't know if he was lying or just embellishing a
Speaker 4: little bit here, but yeah, she helped, she's she's helping
Speaker 4: all the give that positive. Leturgy Dizzy go for it.
Speaker 5: But I gotta be honest, though, I've seen The Giant
Speaker 5: versus Hogan.
Speaker 3: Fifteen times in the last month because it's always no,
Speaker 3: it's on that damn live channel.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of really bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah that, and they've shown I've seen Flair versus Vader,
Speaker 5: and I've.
Speaker 3: Seen uh a lot of when.
Speaker 5: Stinging and uh, those guys were teaming up and it's
Speaker 5: just getting to be it's getting to.
Speaker 3: Be a pain.
Speaker 5: So I've stopped watching it for about a week to
Speaker 5: see if I can catch some new stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 5: they showed I actually get to watch the beginning of
Speaker 5: the the n W O the other day.
Speaker 4: Wow, I watch that several times. That's always fascinating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you when Hogan comes out to the ring
Speaker 3: and just.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but look, I mean w c W gave us
Speaker 4: the Shockmaster for that. We will always be that. Don't
Speaker 4: forget Norman Smiley is the kiss Demon. I was actually
Speaker 4: at the show. I was at that show when Norman
Speaker 4: Smiley debut as a kiss demon. It was awful. It
Speaker 4: was a Shockmaster, was right, Yeah, yeah, yeah. The poor
Speaker 4: guy just fell, just fell on his face and the
Speaker 4: mask came off. And I mean literally he was the Shockmaster,
Speaker 4: mysterious Shockmaster and the Shockmaster Master to this day cracks
Speaker 4: me up. This is a Stormtrooper with glitter glitter on it.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know what's funny Shockmaster falling or
Speaker 1: like sids just trying to sell how angry he is
Speaker 1: that it's a shocked it's a shockmaster. Is who the
Speaker 1: opponent is they're calling out.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. W CW did a lot of
Speaker 4: good things back then, but they, like you said, Barry,
Speaker 4: they did a.
Speaker 1: Lot of really bad that's the fun now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean look at all, but look all these
Speaker 4: years later, we're still talking about WCW and we're still
Speaker 4: watching w CW under YouTube channel. And that's why I
Speaker 4: look and I go back and I watch some of
Speaker 4: those big moments from old time WWF and early WWE.
Speaker 4: I mean, there was some good stuff.
Speaker 1: Going on the first time, and like there was a
Speaker 1: lot of great like Stone Cold being hoisted up and
Speaker 1: sacrificed from the Undertaker on that like crucifix, Like there
Speaker 1: was some crazy stuff that happened in the late nineties.
Speaker 4: I mean, I go by, you know, you want to
Speaker 4: see a good crowd reaction, just go watch Goldberg beat
Speaker 4: Paul Cogan and w in the in the in the
Speaker 4: Georgia Dome. My god, I thought they were going to
Speaker 4: bust the roof off of that place.
Speaker 7: After beating Scott Hall earlier in the night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, earlier in the night. Yeah, yeah, shot.
Speaker 4: It's weird how they used to do and they still do.
Speaker 4: I made a post on on the a W fan
Speaker 4: Hub subreddit, uh I believe it was yesterday saying today
Speaker 4: is the four year anniversary of Julia Hart debuting on
Speaker 4: w c W. I've been a w c W a
Speaker 4: TV she was. She lost to Britt Baker blood and
Speaker 4: blood and guts. But what I found out from doing
Speaker 4: the research on that that was her third match of
Speaker 4: the night. Three. Of course they all lasted about a
Speaker 4: minute and a half. But still, these these these men
Speaker 4: and women, and it's not unusual if you go back
Speaker 4: and look, these these wrestlers are still wrestling two three
Speaker 4: matches a night. Beast Mortos does it all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because he taped the cheerleader, right, Julia was the cheerleader
Speaker 4: back then. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they would tape. They would take a couple
Speaker 1: of shows at a time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was back in the day when they were
Speaker 4: doing the shows a Daily's place because of COVID and
Speaker 4: so they were they would tape like a bunch of
Speaker 4: matches and like, for example, that match the Blood and Guts,
Speaker 4: which took place at Daily's place, and I believe it
Speaker 4: was the first Blood and Guts uh aired on uh
Speaker 4: May fifth, but it was taped on April twenty second. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know it was you know, whatever they.
Speaker 1: Spliced Sampede is the same thing. They taped it the
Speaker 1: night before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they spliced. They spliced these shows together.
Speaker 4: I don't know about the Blood and Guts being taped
Speaker 4: on the twenty second, but the point is is that
Speaker 4: there was no crowd there. It was just the wrestlers
Speaker 4: in the crowd. So they do whatever they wanted. A
Speaker 4: lot of these shows were splice that they had to
Speaker 4: because of COVID. But but look anyway, that's the show.
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