WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:43.359 Wait Wait, said in. 2 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:05.439 Welcome back to Midnight Viewing, the horror anthology podcast, where 3 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:08.599 this season we're taking a look at George Abramero's nineteen 4 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:11.799 eighties series Tales from the Dark Side. Sharing the Midnight 5 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:13.959 view with me are the projection Booths, Mike. 6 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:16.120 White, I Sure I Am Hungry? 7 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:20.959 And the culture cast Chris Stature Love Hungry. Tonight, we're 8 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:23.000 taking a look at the next two episodes of season four, 9 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:25.319 the final season of Tales from the Dark Sign. Those 10 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:30.159 are Love Hungry and the Deal Love Hungry Season four, 11 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:34.519 episode eleven, originally aired on February twenty first, nineteen eighty eight. 12 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:38.599 Written by John Stissick from a short story by Roberts Ganaway, 13 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.920 directed by John Stisick, starring Sharon Madden, Larry Gelman, and 14 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:43.799 a bunch of fruit. 15 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:44.760 This is the story. 16 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:47.040 This is the story of a telemarketer struggling with her 17 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:50.799 weight and she tries the latest fad diet. What did 18 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:52.319 you think of this, Chris? 19 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:55.680 Oh, dear, wow, fat people can't stop eating? 20 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:57.359 Well, are you fat? 21 00:01:57.439 --> 00:01:57.640 You know? 22 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:02.159 As a fat per it? Really? Fat people really are monds. 23 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:06.400 That's true. That's true. All they should be shunned and ridicule. 24 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:10.000 Yes, yeah, exactly, Mike, you read my mind. 25 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:14.240 Man, I think the thing for me that has always 26 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:18.120 been so low hanging fruit, no pun in, especially with 27 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:21.159 this goddamn joke of it is when you have a 28 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:25.280 fat person, they're fat by Hollywood standards. First off, like 29 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:26.840 Sharon Madden. 30 00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:30.199 She is a normal midwesterner exactly like I see women 31 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:32.639 like her every day, every secondly. 32 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:35.319 It once again does come back to and Mike, you 33 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.400 always mentioned this. I hate when characters portrayed drunk. I 34 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:41.439 hate when characters are written as fat because. 35 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:43.479 It's just I can't eat and nothing else. 36 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:47.240 All I do is consume what the fuck you want 37 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:48.960 to give people that are overweight a complex. 38 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:51.360 You're doing a good job doing it because. 39 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:55.000 That that kind of horseshit that Monica on friends. 40 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:56.800 Fat people can't control them all. 41 00:02:57.120 --> 00:02:58.400 Don't you a fat suit? 42 00:02:58.960 --> 00:02:59.159 I do? 43 00:02:59.400 --> 00:02:59.639 I do. 44 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:03.000 It's the last vestige of minstrelery. 45 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:06.479 Yeah, I will say Brendan Fraser, he didn't have to 46 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:09.199 go gain three hundred pounds to do the whale, and 47 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:09.680 they get it. 48 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:11.719 The suit weigh just as much as fine. 49 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:14.479 Whatever all of that to say, don't care for these 50 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:17.759 kinds of stories because they are very Again, no low 51 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:20.520 hanging fruit, and they are very one note and they 52 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:27.199 are very unimagined. And the payoff for this episode is idiotic, 53 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:29.360 I think, is the nice way of putting it. It 54 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:33.240 is so childish that the conclusion to the episode could 55 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:34.800 have been undone by a pair of scissors. 56 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:38.520 Wow, she died because she was an idiot. That's what 57 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:39.639 the episode is telling me. 58 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:42.360 And I find it hard to get behind a character 59 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:45.199 that is this dumb, a episode that is expecting me 60 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.560 to believe a character can be this And it just 61 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:50.680 seems like everybody but Larry Gelman was having a good time, 62 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:53.080 or like everybody but he was the only one having 63 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:55.400 a good time Larry Gelman because he seems to be 64 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:58.080 knowing what the assignment was, which is being this kind 65 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:02.639 of lovelorn more But I could not abide this episode. 66 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:05.080 I cannot sanction as Tom fool What about you, Mike? 67 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:09.680 Well, apparently anybody that loves her is going to be 68 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:12.560 good enough for her, even though it's Larry Gelman. I mean, 69 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:16.160 I love Larry Gelman. I've loved him since I was 70 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:18.839 a little kid and we'd see him show up and 71 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:21.759 everything from the Monkeys to Bob Newhart all the way 72 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:26.240 through so many great roles, Barney Miller's Barney Millers, Yes, 73 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:30.600 exactly love when this guy shows up, she is just like, Oh, 74 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:33.279 this guy likes me. But she doesn't seem to care 75 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.319 about that. She's just so centered on the wist trying 76 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:40.199 to lose the weight and the mysterious collar on the phone. Oh, 77 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:43.759 we've got this thing that's going to help you lose weight. Okay, great, Yeah, 78 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:47.720 I'll do whatever. And then now she hears the screams 79 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:52.079 of food as it's being consumed or chopped up, and 80 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:56.920 then she'll put on these horrible glasses and now she 81 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:01.240 can see talking food. And I was offended by the 82 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:05.720 puppetry in this episode. Just the worst puppets I've seen, 83 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:11.480 Just those little rubber faces, the little black dots for eyes. 84 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:13.480 I'm like, what are we doing here? 85 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:16.480 Yeah, they made the California raisins look like a real 86 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:20.319 oh my god, like real feet of stop motion animation. 87 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:24.279 These were like this was sock puppets in fruit. 88 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:28.079 For Yeah it was. This wasn't good and it would 89 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:30.959 have been done so much quicker, and had they even 90 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:34.560 it took me the longest time to even see the pincushion, 91 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:37.399 the tomato pin cushion, and then I'm like, oh, she 92 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:41.319 must sew, and then suddenly she sewing her mouth shut. 93 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:44.839 I'm like, oh, okay, had I seen a little bit 94 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:47.319 more of that bee, that would have been good had 95 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:51.839 she been a seamstress rather than a telemarketer. And come on, guys, 96 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:55.519 we just saw a telemarketer last episode. What's she gonna do? Now? 97 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:57.199 Start speaking with the Spanish accent? 98 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:59.800 Would you tell us? Did you like this episode? 99 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:01.600 I loved it. 100 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:05.360 It is my favorite episode of all time. 101 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:07.800 My round, morons and food. 102 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:10.319 Chalatan's fourth of you. 103 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:14.839 You claim to like horror anthology, you become Kelsey Grammar. 104 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:18.199 Apparently I invite you both to have sex with yourselves. Listen, 105 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:21.360 here's my take on the episode. Glad I had never 106 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:24.680 I this is one of the very few Talness in 107 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:28.079 the dark Side episodes that managed to elude me until now. 108 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:30.480 So this is a first watch for me as well. 109 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:34.639 And boy, let me tell you, yes, let me concur 110 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:39.439 with both of you, because I hate fat centric episodes 111 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:42.839 of anything, because it's either coming from a place of 112 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:49.920 ridicule or a place of modeling faue understanding, where either way, 113 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:54.079 it's a huge problem that you cannot handle yourself that 114 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:57.680 you cannot control yourself about. And that's the case here. 115 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:00.920 Like there are shots here with the film maker where 116 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:04.959 John Strissik has composed where she's doing dishes and in 117 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:07.680 the same shot as an open box of donuts that 118 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:11.079 she is in between dishes eating the donuts. This is 119 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:15.000 remember in Meatballs where where what's his name, Larry can't 120 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.800 fucking he's like on the basketball court with pulling candy 121 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:22.040 bars out of his shorts. Like same sort of thing 122 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:26.639 here when this episode began. And look, it's called love Hungry. 123 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:28.959 And she has a refrigerator that has one of these 124 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:31.879 like novelty alarms that you would you would probably find 125 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.120 it Spencer Gifts in the early nineteen eighties. Hey, fats 126 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:38.720 so close the refrigerator. That's your motivation for not eating. 127 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:41.399 But the other big facet in her house is it's 128 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:45.879 wall to wall plants, and so she's going around spraying 129 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:48.240 the plants. This is like one of many plots events 130 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:51.040 that don't pay off, such as the telemarketing, Like it 131 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:53.519 has no bearing on anything other than she works from 132 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:57.360 home for some reason anyway, So she has all these plants. 133 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:02.879 After the wonderful dish while eating donuts scene, she notices 134 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:08.240 the ad for the weight loss company Your weight is over, which, 135 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:09.759 by the way, the ad that's supposed to be in 136 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:12.240 the classified is clearly made with a dot matrix printer, 137 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:14.560 So somebody in the props department just printed that fucking 138 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:16.519 thing out because it's the same printer that they used 139 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:19.639 for her readouts of her prospective calls. It's the same 140 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:21.839 dot matrix printer that they use for the address on 141 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:24.800 the package that arrives for her. So when she receives 142 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:27.639 a phone call mysteriously and they're like they know everything 143 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.720 about her, including that her refrigerator makes fun of her. 144 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:31.439 And she's like, who is this? 145 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:33.559 I'm like, okay, is this the central mystery here? And 146 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:37.200 is it her plants? Because clearly they could go that 147 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:39.759 way now the plants are just another fucking thing to 148 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:42.919 show that she's a spinster or like an old maid 149 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:45.639 here because her weight is keeping her from getting out 150 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:46.440 there in the world. 151 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:50.559 We just saw a woman talking to everything in her house, 152 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:54.840 like four or five episodes ago, just coming in and 153 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:58.600 talking with everything and those things. Fine, there was that 154 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.679 guy across the way, remember that, and him calling her 155 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:03.639 and like, hey, let's go off for a date and 156 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:07.639 her just freaking the fuck out. Yeah. I kept thinking like, okay, yeah, 157 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:09.919 those plants are going to start talking back anytime now. 158 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:13.120 And let's talk about these the fruit here, the rubber 159 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.360 like they went down to I don't know, just like 160 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:19.320 like a KB toy store maybe or an Fao Schwartz 161 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:21.960 and they just grabbed a couple of rubber fruit and 162 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:25.200 then they pasted eyes onto them, cut mouths into them. Hey, 163 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:28.399 talking fruit. And I love that each of them have 164 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:32.440 their own personalities, the professor character and the tough guy banana, 165 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:35.440 and like the sort of the dame pair, or the 166 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:37.919 best one I think was the was the roast beef 167 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:38.919 and the refrigerator. 168 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:41.639 Hey, you got a problem with me, I'll give you 169 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:42.559 some indigestion. 170 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.200 If I put in an earpiece from a company that 171 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:50.120 arrived unbidden from people who knew who I was and 172 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:53.480 where I lived and everything about me, and when I 173 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:56.960 sat down to eat, and anytime people cut into or 174 00:09:57.120 --> 00:10:01.120 bit into food, the food screamed, I would my next 175 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:03.720 order of business is removing the ear piece. I don't 176 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:06.519 care if it's stuck in there, quote unquote, I certainly 177 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:09.039 am not going to put on the glasses from the 178 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:13.799 same company, the same mystery weight loss company, because those 179 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.320 be confused as well. At a certain point, what is 180 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:18.679 going on in this this is the weirdest one. Like 181 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:20.919 I can't even really say I didn't like it because 182 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.200 it's just so fucking unusual. But at the same time, 183 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:28.799 what it wants to be talking about, which is fad 184 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:33.399 diets and weight loss and one's own personal shame and everything. 185 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.200 There's something to be mined there, and there's something that 186 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:40.600 could be that could inevitably lead to somebody sowing their 187 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:43.000 own mouth shut and having that be a horrifying ending. 188 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:45.960 This is like a jokey fucking episode. What was the 189 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.759 by the way, what is the weight loss company's plan? 190 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:51.559 What is she supposed to eat for everyone? 191 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:55.200 I guess is it just because they hate fat people too? 192 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:58.320 Yeah, but so I guess they want them to all 193 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:02.759 starve because or turn them into savages, Like we're look, 194 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:05.039 at a certain point she was gonna eat. I don't 195 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.759 care if she fucking had the things food was getting 196 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:10.840 in her. This is mental and by like all the 197 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:13.200 transitions in this episode are super weird. Like at a 198 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.080 certain point, the fruit sing her to sleep and she 199 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.440 just falls asleep at the thing. It's like watching a 200 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:22.159 children's production of something like it's I don't know what's happening. 201 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.159 This is not a Tales from the Dark Side. This 202 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:26.639 isn't even this isn't even an Amazing Stories. 203 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.799 Oh it's amazing. The story got made. I'll tell you 204 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:30.399 that much. 205 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:33.200 I will give this one thing. When they and when 206 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:35.879 they're in the Mexican restaurant, she passes out the way 207 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:39.840 she that was awesome, like that, that looked great. But 208 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:43.039 that scene points to another thing. When I was saying 209 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:45.279 about the sort of the portrayal of fat people, if 210 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:47.919 if look, I used to be three hundred and fucking 211 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:51.440 forty pounds too before gluten free fucking kicked me down. 212 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:55.240 So I know full well the shame about going out 213 00:11:55.240 --> 00:11:57.960 with somebody for the first time and not wanting to 214 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:00.879 appear the way you appear. And I also know that 215 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.000 if you're going out to eat on your first date, 216 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:06.080 you're not going to fucking shovelize your goddamn plate. 217 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.720 Full and go, oh, what's gonna do? 218 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:12.440 That's I don't know, No, I'm with you, yeah, as. 219 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:14.799 Yeah, this was written by thin people and directed by 220 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:15.399 thin people. 221 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:17.519 That's what I have to say. 222 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.159 Correct, yeah, as a fat person. It is not directed 223 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:21.399 by someone who's so yeah. 224 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:25.279 All of these fat sort of episodes, these very special episodes, 225 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:27.679 always come from someone who isn't or they came from 226 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:29.840 fucking Louis c K who is a fat man, and 227 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:32.720 then wrote the most model and treacly, fucking bullshit episode 228 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:35.360 that people were praising for anyway, they did it on taxi. 229 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:37.320 I had to fucking deal with it there too. Couldn't 230 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:39.200 believe I had to deal with it here on dark side. 231 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:43.919 Fuck this episode. The Deal. Season four, episode twelve, aired 232 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:47.240 originally on February twenty eighth, nineteen eighty eight, Written by 233 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:50.360 Granville Burgess and Alan Coulter. Now this is only one 234 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:53.159 of maybe two or three things Alan Coulter wrote. He 235 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:57.279 is a director still working to this day. Eleven Boardwalk Empires, 236 00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:00.639 twelve Sopranos. He directed the film Hollywood Land. Anyway, he 237 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:03.759 just wrote this one. It was directed by TJ. Castronova 238 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:08.559 and starring a fucking cavalcade of fucking character actors, Alan Garfield, 239 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:12.600 Bradley Whitford or Robert Costanza and somebody named Alyssa pattern Ouster. 240 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:15.200 Remember when I said earlier, when we were reviewing the 241 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:18.960 series that deal with the Devil episodes are guaranteed quality. 242 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:23.279 Oh yeah, yeah, they're fantastic. They're really really good. 243 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:26.399 Right, the best. I have never had a worse What. 244 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:29.120 Tom Dash is an aspiring screenwriter. He'll do anything to 245 00:13:29.159 --> 00:13:31.480 sell a script. Scratch that, he'll do anything to have 246 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:34.919 creative control. Scratch that, he'll do anything to run a studio. Mike, 247 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:35.879 what you think of this one? 248 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:38.960 He didn't even sign a contract. I mean, he just said, oh, 249 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:42.320 I do anything to do this. I'm like, and then 250 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:45.080 Alan Garfield's oh okay, yeah sure, And then the next 251 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:46.519 day of the phone's bringing I'm. 252 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.159 Like, that's consent, Mike. 253 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:51.879 Is that that? Because no means just come on. I 254 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:56.879 think that I'm Ron Glass in Sherman Helmsley. I would 255 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:00.279 sell my soul to solve this problem, like some thing 256 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:03.320 like that you have to say, rather than I do 257 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:06.320 anything to sell this script. And yeah, what a waste 258 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:09.039 of falent with this one. I was so thrilled when 259 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.559 I was, Oh, Bradley Whitford, isn't this Oh this is great? 260 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:14.759 Alan Garfield and he's playing multiple roles. Oh this is 261 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:17.440 going to be so great. Man oh man, oh man, 262 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:20.600 I beg for the days of dan Hedeia playing. This 263 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:24.399 was just not good at all, even when it came 264 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:28.159 to the big twist at the end, when it's I 265 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.159 want to sell my soul to the devil, and're like okay, 266 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:34.759 and then he makes Bradley Woodford disappear and it's again, 267 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:37.960 you didn't sign a contract, didn't do anything. That was 268 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:41.879 she got duped by pretending to want to sell her 269 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:44.840 soul to the devil. That's not legally binding in court. 270 00:14:44.879 --> 00:14:46.879 I watched a lot of paper chase, and this has 271 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:50.679 no leg to stand on. Maybe this fractured court that 272 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.440 we currently have would do that would uphold any decisions 273 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.480 that the devil has, But in a nineteen eighty four 274 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:03.039 court or whatever, nineteen eighty eight, I'm sorry, no, I 275 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:05.080 don't think so. I don't think that the devil has 276 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:07.279 like to stand on here. I think we get Damie 277 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:09.399 Webster in there. The soul thing's dismissed. 278 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:12.320 Would you think, Chris, I'll make this joke now, because 279 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:14.279 I don't think I've talked about him and anything else. 280 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:15.679 Can you guys hear him? 281 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:16.519 No? Nope? 282 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:17.759 Okay, cool? Never mind. 283 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:20.440 Then, what a disappointment that this isn't the lead singer 284 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.879 of Aerosmith, though I'm sure if or not the lead singer, 285 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:24.639 but one of the members of Aerosmith, because even if 286 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:27.000 he had been in it, this is the fly in 287 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:29.919 the ointment, as it were, or the exception that proves 288 00:15:29.919 --> 00:15:31.720 a rule. This is the first bad one of these. 289 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:35.240 It's really disappointing how not good this episode is because 290 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:40.519 this feels like a relatively safe bet a devil character 291 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:44.360 in Hollywood in the eighties, like Jesus Christ. That feels 292 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:47.679 like a layup, as what they would call it in basketball, 293 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:50.840 and instead it's just meandering and idiotic because they don't 294 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:54.279 even understand the rules of the premise that they've presented, 295 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:57.519 the rules of the premise that have existed fucking essentially 296 00:15:57.559 --> 00:16:03.159 since biblical times. If you come to the devil explicitly 297 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:06.080 asking for something, it is not just hey, Mike, I 298 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:08.639 do anything for a chicken sandwich. Hey, by the way, 299 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:10.600 I'm the devil, and now you I've got your soul 300 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:11.759 for a chicken sandwich. 301 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:12.600 What the fuck? Wait? 302 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:16.879 Is sell it to the devil? Is on my soul 303 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:20.440 to the devil by accident. It's playing very unfair, and 304 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:22.200 that's the problem that I have with the rules of 305 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:24.159 the episode because nothing I'm saying you need to follow 306 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:27.279 the rules strictly. But if you're gonna do something interesting 307 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:30.120 with them, do something interesting with them, don't just ignore 308 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:33.240 that they exist, because that's more. What it feels like 309 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:35.039 here is we're going to play fast and loose with 310 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:38.120 something that, like everybody knows selling your soul to the devil, 311 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:41.120 that's a well known trope. It is a very well 312 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:44.080 established and here they're just like, what if we just 313 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:47.240 did like three quarters of them but pretended like we 314 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:49.399 did it a hunt And I just I don't know, 315 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:51.799 I feel like that's lazy, and it wiels out in 316 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:53.799 the episode because Bradley Whitford's time is. 317 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:55.519 Just it, which is a shame because I really like him. 318 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:57.840 He's a good actor. Father Blane, what about you? 319 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:01.000 Are you saying the Devil isn't playing fans in this episode? 320 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:01.960 What are you going to do? 321 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:02.679 I'm the devil? 322 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.720 Hey, Hey, Lucifer, Loucifer. 323 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:11.079 Here's what I'll say in favor of the episode. Obviously, 324 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:12.079 the performance is good. 325 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:13.200 I'm smiting here. 326 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:17.240 A jolly devil is at Alan Garfield's portrayal of the Devil. 327 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:20.039 Early on just giggly and fun and then this all great. 328 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:24.039 I was won over by that. He does sign a contract. Actually, Mike, 329 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:25.799 I know because I've wrote it in my notes, because 330 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:28.720 the effect was actually good. Where as soon as it 331 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:31.440 was signed, the ink started smoking on the page. It 332 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:34.759 was clearly a physical effect. So he did after the fact. 333 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:35.960 That was the second thing. 334 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:38.119 That was the second thing that he asked for, not 335 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:39.920 the first thing, right, the first thing. 336 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:40.920 He first thing. 337 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:43.200 The first thing was graddess. That was just to show 338 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:45.599 that he could get it. And then he was like 339 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:47.880 and then he was like, yo, man, I'm the devil, 340 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:49.720 and now we're gonna have to sign a contract for 341 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:51.039 the rest and he's like, okay, cool. 342 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:52.559 So I think the. 343 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:54.279 Devil came up to me and was like, Yo, man, 344 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:57.000 I'm the devil. I'd be like, you seem pretty cool. 345 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:01.039 That would be a tactic the devil to employ because 346 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:02.920 no one would believe him, and you'd sign up, and 347 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:04.359 then he's got your soul. 348 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:06.079 Yo man, I'm the devil. 349 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:09.440 So Bobby on the phone must be Bobby de Niro, right, 350 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:11.559 the actor that he's trying to get the whole time. 351 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:13.599 Yeah, yeah, I assume. 352 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:16.319 So one of those things again. 353 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:18.079 Yeah, I was like, okay, speaking of. 354 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:20.400 The Alan Colter of it all and the Sopranos. In 355 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:22.640 that episode of The Sopranos d Girl where they were 356 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:25.559 doing the same thing where it's well Quinton and Paul 357 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:27.960 and it's like, are you talking about like Quentin Tarantino 358 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:29.119 and Paul Thomas Anderson. 359 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:30.759 Okay, Yeah. 360 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:33.640 Alan Colter directed a lot of the early episodes of 361 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:35.640 The Sopranos, a lot of the big ones, he directed 362 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:38.640 to College and Isabella, and a whole lot of season two, 363 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:42.000 so we've been watching a lot of Alan Colter's stuff. 364 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:44.519 He also directed Hollywood Land. 365 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:47.599 Speaking of things not knowing its own rules. This guy 366 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:50.319 is an aspiring screenwriter in Hollywood. He says he's been 367 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:53.240 there for ten years, and he doesn't understand that even 368 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:55.880 if he were to make it as a screenwriter in Hollywood, 369 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:57.559 then he's still on the lowest rung on the fucking 370 00:18:57.599 --> 00:18:59.240 ladder that they're just going to do whatever they want 371 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:02.440 with his screenplay. That's a surprise to him at some point. 372 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:03.799 Which is where's Richard had him when you need him 373 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:05.279 to tear this episode? Then? 374 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:08.200 Really really the other insanity of that, and then he's like, 375 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:12.160 I want creative control. So let's make you a studio head. 376 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:15.559 That's not what a studio head does. They don't write 377 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:18.839 the scripts and then put the deal together, and then 378 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:21.680 out of the fucking blue we get a third character, 379 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:24.599 or a fourth rather, which is his girlfriend who we've 380 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:26.759 not met. She shows up like in the beginning of 381 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:29.880 act three somehow and is like bitching him out because 382 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:31.559 he's not going to give her the part because Bobby 383 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:34.559 de Niro wants his girlfriend to be in that particular picture. 384 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:35.839 First of all, aren't. 385 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:37.200 There any other roles in that movie? 386 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:40.599 And if not, you're running a studio. Give her her 387 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:45.640 own vehicle. Why is this thing doesn't understand its own self? 388 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.759 This was written by people working in Hollywood. What's happening? 389 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:49.920 Allegedly? 390 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:51.960 Allegedly, No, they definitely do. 391 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:54.519 I mean again, like they don't understand the rules of Hollywood. 392 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:56.240 They don't understand the rules of making a rule with 393 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:58.759 the devil, a deal with the devil, a deal with 394 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:00.200 the devil, to the point where the name but the 395 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:03.920 episode is the deal, as in the deal that Bradley 396 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:05.279 Wood for makes with the devil. 397 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:07.960 I know a guy personally in Pittsburgh who can make 398 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:10.920 blood like you can taste this baby. 399 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:13.880 That's a vinie. I'm assuming that they were mentioning there, right. 400 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:16.519 Oh yeah, that's the only reference I really enjoyed. 401 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:21.000