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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nunyo.

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Hockey Live back once again to talk fantasy hockey,

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the legend. Victor Nuno, Victor, how you doing today?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Patreon is a really great place to get some

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Speaker 3: It's good time, Nicher. Well, let's take a little break,

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come back and talk some into the boiler. We welcome

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back old friend of the show. I don't think he's

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been on the floor. I'm blanking out. I know we've

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interacted so much of the years. But formerly an fahl

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Man but now a hockey news writer. Caleb Kearney.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, Caleb living the dream out here in

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cloudy Edmonton, Alberta.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I asked before the show whether there's ten

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inches of snow on the ground yet, because it is,

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after all, late August as we record this and I

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worry about Alberta. I'm just kidding you, Caleb, you know that.

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Oh yeah, all right, So we need to talk about

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the Edmonton Oilers. And the first question, I just hope

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you're okay, Caleb, because that had to be That had

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to be quite a ride. This team has been so

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much discussed and dissected. But to reset for anybody who

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has been living under a rock, this was a team

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that was in one goal, within one goal of a

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game seven Stanley Cup. They outscored the Florida Panthers over

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seven games and almost made the most miraculous comeback in

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NHL history, coming from from down three to zero. This

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was from a team that at one point was five

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twelve and one early in the season in international news

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for how the heck could they be this bad? They weren't.

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Forty four, fifteen and five run later, they rolled into

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the playoffs, they rolled to the finals, and they just

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about got it. They got the most shots taken in

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the NHL. Stunning individual performances will go over, and they

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lost not a whole lot. There was some trades that

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kind of came late here. Warren Fogel left but they

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also made some interesting additions that we'll talk about. Caleb,

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have you and other oilers followers recovered and are we

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expecting next year it's going to be the Cup?

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Speaker 5: I'd say that definitely a lot of people expect the

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Cup next year. It's last year than they were a

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Cup favorite. But I think this year even more honestly,

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comparing the disappointment of this past offseason two years previous,

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feels less intense, if that makes sense, so because they

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were so close, because they went toe to toe with

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Florida and it was literally a game of inches, and

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it was a miraculous comeback from the horrendous start that

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they had. It's tough to you can nitpick, of course,

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but by and large, it's tough to really be upset

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with a team that had that kind of Cinderella story

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over the course of the season and postseason.

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Speaker 3: It starts, of course, with Connor McDavid. What is there

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to say about this guy that hasn't already been said

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getting a con smyth for losing team in the Stanley

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Cup finals, crippled digit regular season assists, which actually when

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we tied for first with Nikita Kucharap for the first

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time since the Great One walked the ice. And by

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the way, McDavid missed six games this year. The regular

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season did not meet the crazy heights of twenty twenty

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two twenty three, with his goals actually falling in half

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down to thirty two. But geez, this is just an

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insane amount of production we're getting from this guy these days.

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All I can say is, have we reached Pek McDavid

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Caleb or is there more?

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Speaker 5: I think the thing that owners of Connor McDavid and

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fantasy leagues want to hear is, yes, there is more,

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and not just in points. Yes there's the point aspect.

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I think he's in another planet. He's literally Superman on skates.

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There's really nobody else in the league who's like him,

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and I think he can. I think he can hit

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one sixty plus. I think there's a chance that he

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could get there. I'd say he's a lock for at

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least one thirty points. And the couple of areas that

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I think he can really improve on this season is

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in bash. And I'm not sure how many people have

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really paid attention to this, but Connor McDavid had one

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hundred and eighteen hits last season, career high in hits.

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So he's a very passionate player. He's a very aggressive player.

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come to mind when you think about Connor McDavid, but

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he really is super motivated and he'll probably hit about

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that again. And with Chris Knoblock and his sort of

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defensive structure being an influence on the team from training camp,

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I wouldn't be surprised if I'd see him get more

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numbers up in terms of block shots and also face

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off percentage. I could see that improving as well, So

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those sort of peripheral categories could could get another boost

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in addition to the points.

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Speaker 3: All Right, you can't talk about McDavid without talking about

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Leon drsidel a one hundred and six point year the

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NHL's biggest star that always comes after the word and

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because you always say McDavid and dry saddle, all he

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does is put up one and one hundred points per

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year while missing nine games in the last eight years combined,

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the stats were technically a touch behind his norm As usual,

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he McDavid spent part of the season together, part of

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it apart, and while his forty one goal overall goals

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are camouflaged as fourteenth in the NHL twenty two on

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the power play ranks second in the league. One piece

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of discussion now is that Dry is on an expiring

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contract this year. Is once again same question, is this

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peak Dry? And is he gonna stay in Blue and

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Speaker 5: I'll touch on the contract first. I personally believe all

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all signs point to him staying in Edmonton. There's no

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other place where he can play with Conor McDavid, so

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that only makes sense to me. And because they were

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so close, I think it's truly a locke. If they

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had lost to Vancouver or something like that, I could

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maybe see him entertaining the idea of going somewhere else more.

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But like I said, there's only one place where he

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can play with Connor McDavid, and that's in Edmonton. So

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I'd say as long as McDavid stays, Dry title staying

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or at least once to say, it's another issue entirely

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if there is cap space to fit both players. With

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stam Bowman's reputation with what he did in Chicago, keeping

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both Caine and Taves, I would suggest that is a

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top priority. For him, and as far as his performance goes,

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I think we're in the zone of his prime right now.

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I think that he can find another gear. I think again,

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a full year with Chris Nablock behind the bench is

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really gonna do wonders for dry Cidle. And the thing

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about kno Bloc is his teams historically have gotten off

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to really good starts for the regular season, so I

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don't expect the same sort of train crash that happened

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last year to also happen this year. The crazy thing

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about dry Cidle is I think he can score sixty

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plus and he has had six straight seasons of a

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shooting percentage of eighteen percent or higher, which is bonkers

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to me. I'm pretty sure he has a higher shooting

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percentage than Legovechkin, which is nuts. And last year he

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had a career high and face off win percentage and takeaways,

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so again, some of those peripheral categories could see an

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improvement there in face off wins and takeaways. Those were

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parts of his game that he really stepped up last year,

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and there's a chance that those peripheral categories get another

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boost this year.

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Speaker 3: All those cysts had to go somewhere. You can't have

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all those assists if nobody's scoring the goals. Guess who

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it was? It was Zach Kimon. Any doubts that may

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have still existed about whether Hyman deserved that contract he

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got to come to Edmonton, my lord, has he surpassed

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what that contract was worth. He was third in the

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NHL and goals with fifty four. He led the NHL

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in individual expected goals fifty seven point three to three

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individual expected goals the second place fifty point one six.

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That's a huge margin. Of course, that individual expected goals

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talks about your shots and the distance you take them from.

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He led the oilers and shots with over three point

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five per game. You know he got them in good places.

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He did recently turn thirty two, and he's a physical guy.

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He was locked to McDavid almost all year, and so

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I guess the question is he going to continue to

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and is there any reason to doubt that he will

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keep up these continued results.

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Speaker 5: This year obviously was a career year for him in

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terms of goals, not a career year in terms of points.

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He was six shy of what he got your previous

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with eighty three points, I'd expect him to be right

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around that sort of point per game range. And I

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don't believe that he's gonna slow down. I don't know

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that he's going to get replaced on the top power play.

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I think he's going to stay in that position. They

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had success there. Now, I could realistically see a drop

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in goals for him this year. I could see forty

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plus instead of fifty plus for goals. But then with

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that you'll possibly see an uptick in an assist similar

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to your previous where he was at forty seven assists.

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This past year he only had twenty three, so could

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see some positive regression in terms of assists and the

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physical play. Yeah, I'd say as long as he's with

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either McDavid or dry Syle this year for the whole year,

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I don't see why he wouldn't be with McDavid. But

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if he's with dry Sitle, that's a pretty it's a

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pretty solid consolation prize as it were.

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Speaker 4: All Right, let's talk about the fourth member of that

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Big four. Bryan Nujen Hopkins RNH, the thirty one year

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old former first round pick, first overall pick, continued his

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steady career as big jump from the year before to

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one hundred and four point settle back down to sixty

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seven where he was previously, so sixty nine point pace

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previous before the one oh four was sixty five point pace.

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His time on ice with McDavid jumped to nearly fifty

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percent last year at even strength, the post of fifty

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nine the year before, and he remained a mainstay on

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that dominant top. Power play regression was mainly explained by

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a shooting percentage drop of eighteen to nine percent, and

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we're basically cut in half from that high outlier season,

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but in line with his previous seasons. If nothing else,

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his total shot attempts were a career high at three

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sixty nine. So, Caleb, what do you think Rnh's role

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will be this next year with oilers and what do

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you think we can expect production wise? Is it going

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to be in that seventy ish point range or is

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it potentially more or less.

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Speaker 5: I'd say seventy ish. Seventy ish sounds about right for Nuge.

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He's found his pocket and he's the Swiss Army Knight

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for the Oilers. He's in every situation and a really

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underrated fantasy asset as well, just with all the categories

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that he touches. And yeah it's tough too. It'll be tough.

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He'll be hard pressed to hit that one hundred point

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peak again. But seventy plus, i'd say is reasonable.

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Speaker 3: Skinner, Jeff Skinner to be SIS is a new addition

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to this team. He is part of the Edmonton is

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in the veterans get bought out and want to come

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to Edmonton because they have a chance to win a

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cup phase. That's a good place to be for teams.

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His three shots per game in Buffalo last year were

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very typical Jeff Skinner behavior, but the scoring was way down.

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He skated a minute and a half less per night.

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His shots Corsy Fenwick are all normal or up. Shooting

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percentage was not awful, but his attempts were less dangerous

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if you look at it, that was the difference. His

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high danger Coursy four per sixty was the lowest of

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his career. He was shooting from further away. Have you

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decided yet whether a guy like Dry is going to

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be able to revive Skinner like he is in his

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peak ears or is he going to stay in last

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year's Skinner funk.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of that is going to depend

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on Jeff Skinner himself and if he can get to

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those areas where dry Sidle likes to dish it. If

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he can, I would not bad deny if he gets

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forty plus goals. He's got the skill. He's scored forty

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before his first year in Buffalo, and I can't think

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of a better playmaker for him than dry Sidle. So

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that seems like a match made in heaven. And for

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Skinner that'll be a nice big boost. I think he'll

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get back to his sort of teen percent shooting percentage.

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I wouldn't be surprised if he shoots the puck more.

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The Oilers were obviously one of the best teams in

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terms of expected goals for the season. I can only

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see Skinner adding to that rather than subtracting.

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Speaker 3: Let's give you a pickup because we're getting to the

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point where we got to cover multiple guys in short succession.

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But there is still big names here Victor Arbitson, Evander

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Kain two guys here. Arbitson a brand new import from

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the La Kings thirty one years old didn't play a

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whole lot last year. On the other hand, Evander Kaine,

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well known dude, also had some health type issues last

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year and his scoring was way down. But a hot

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shot and hit machine. If you are a guy who

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likes those peripheral categories, you like the bash. You love

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Evander Kane when he can stay on the ice. Who

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do you got between Victor Arvidson and Evander Kane, Caleb,

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are we talking points or are we talking overall talk?

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Whatever you want to talk, man, I'm following you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say for points, i'd go Ardvincent. And that's

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mostly because of the health of Kane. There's it seems

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like there's still a lot up in the air in

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terms of how much of the season is he going

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to play, and that obviously affects it. So if he

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misses a minimal amount of time, he can certainly surpass

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what Arvidson has proven. But if you're a fantasy if

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you're a fantasy team owner and you want to go

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with a safe bed at a high floor type player,

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I'd go Arvidson. If you have the space to stash

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a Kane and hope that he can move his way

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into the top six of the oilers, because that's the

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other thing to take into consideration two is the personnel

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picked up Arvondson and Jeff Skinner and Caine fits in

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there somewhere. So whether he's going to be third line,

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whether he's going to push Jeff or Victor down, remains

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to be seen. All signs sort of point to Arvidson

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starting the year in the top six. Kine injured, So yeah,

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I'd pick Arvidson with Kane being a wild card if

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you can stash.

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Speaker 4: All right, we were going to do a points pick

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on between Dylan Holloway and Adam Henriq, but the Saint

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Louis Blues spoil that. Let's just ask you about Adam Henriq,

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and he is obviously a bit older on the older side,

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but a pretty steady producer. Sign a team friendly two

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year deal at three million, fifty one point pay split

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last season between Anaheim and Edmonton, and overall some of

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his offensive impacts are still decent for where he is

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in his career. What do you think we should expect

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from Henry this upcoming season, Caleb.

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Speaker 5: I think that forty to fifty point zone makes sense

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for him. He's I don't believe unless there's an injury,

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he's probably not going to see very many top six minutes,

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although he did demonstrate during stretches of this past season

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and the playoffs that he can play in the top six.

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He can play with Drycidle, he can play with McDavid,

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he gets to the areas he scores goals. I'd put

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him in the forty to fifty point range and a

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sleeper in terms of some peripheral categories. This past year

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ninety nine hits, eighty three blocks, fifty three point three

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percent face off percentage, some decent peripheral coverage there, so

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he'd be a pretty solid depth.

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Speaker 4: For definitely some decent depth there. And let's talk about

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the other guy. We weren't really gonna mention him, but

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we might as well touch on Vasilly pod coles In. Obviously,

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they acquired him recently from Vancouver and he has played

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one hundred and thirty seven NHL games mostly. The point

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pace is pretty muted twenty one point pace over his career.

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Is there any likelihood that he sees an elevated role

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in Edmonton and anything more than we can hope from

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him other than a very low level points producer.

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Speaker 5: I'd say it depends on if he can get third

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line minutes. He's virtually a Dylan Holloway replacement, although perhaps

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another example of a high lower lower ceiling type player.

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The ceiling was higher with Holloway. However, Pod coles in

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he definitely hits those peripherals a bit more definitely in

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terms of hits. Last season nineteen games, he had seventy

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one hits, which is absolutely ridiculous. So you're not afraid

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to throw the body around. If he can find a regular,

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consistent rule with the Oilers play seventy plus games, I

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wouldn't be surprised if he got thirty plus points. So

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like a borderline replacement level player on a fantasy team,

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if you're in a category league and you're looking for

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kind of a hit specialist, he could be under the

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radar target for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, makes sense. Let's move on to the blue line now.

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Evan Bouchard is obviously where we're going to start, and

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huge jump in production for him. A lot of us

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saw this coming. We thought that he could increase, but

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more than doubling was pretty incredible. He went from a

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forty point pace to an eighty three point pace thirty

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five power Play points when his previous high was thirteen.

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I think we all knew that if he got the

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rains of that top player of power Play, he knock

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it out of the.

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Speaker 3: Park, and he did.

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Speaker 4: He also does really well with Bash and in our

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tidy tier Dynasty settings he was third both in total

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points and points per game. Pretty incredible stuff. So I

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think what we're all wondering Caleb is this type of

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Evan Bouchard, a top five fantasy asset from the blue line.

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Is he here to stay or is there some potential

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of regression and going back to some previous levels that

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he was at before.

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Speaker 5: I think he's here, to say, I'm not one hundred

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percent sure if he's gonna be point per game again,

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I wouldn't bet against him. I'd say live points would

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be as low as I would go in terms of

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his floor point production wise, one of the biggest things

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that contributed to the rise of points is his time

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on ice. In the three previous seasons, eighteen and a

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half minutes, nineteen minutes fifty seconds, fourteen minutes fifty second,

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and this past season he played twenty three minutes a night.

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So anytime you get that big of an increase in

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your time on ice, you're bound to score more, especially

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when you have the offensive toolkit that he does the

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bash as well, I'd expect to see that in the

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same sort of range. And yeah, he's a fantastic offensive player.

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I think another year of knob block of being attached

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to the hip of eck Holme, or maybe they changed

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that and he could take another step defensively, which can

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only set him up better for success in terms of

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putting him into more offensive situations.

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Speaker 3: Mattias at Holm, you just mentioned him. I for one,

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did not have eck Holme outscoring Darnell Nurse on my

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Bengo card for last year. That might just be me

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and my own biases. Nonetheless, when the dust settled home,

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was the sixth leading scorer on this team, skating the

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fourth most minutes. He was Eben Bouchard's partners. You said

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they skated the third most minutes together of any d

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pair at five on five in the NHL, and we're

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very good at it. He was fourth and goals above replacement. Basically,

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he fit in pretty well in his first year in Edmonton,

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notching All Star and Norris votes. At Colme's never going

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to be a d one in fantasy. But what do

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you expect from him going forward?

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Speaker 5: I would expect another forty plus point season. Ridiculous that

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this past season was literally career best for him in

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points goals. You look at some of his other peripheral categories.

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Shots is the most shots he's had in a year,

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the most hits he's had in a year. He had

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one hundred and thirty six hit three blocks, which is

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his range for blocks. And he only averaged twenty one

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minutes a night ish, which is the lowest that he's

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had since twenty fifteen sixteen. So a less is more situation,

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especially because he's getting up there in age. He's thirty

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four years old, so him being in more specific deployment

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is only going to help him out. And I'd say

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a lock for forty points and solid peripherals.

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Speaker 3: All right, And let us talk about Darnell Nurse. I

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am curious about him because he's always one of my

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fantasy faves. His bash always makes him pop because he's

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a guy who gets near two hundred. Last year he

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got near two hundred in blocks, hits and shots. He

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was an absolute category killer, especially in hits and blocks.

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While that sneaky thirty to forty points separates him from

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the one dimensional specialists that you see on the wire,

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even with the second most de minutes on the team.

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Though Bouchard's hammer lock on the power play quarterback role

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dificantly caps nurses upside. From a real perspective, his guard

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stats are not gaudy, although they are solid enough. Are

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you expecting another bashtastic season from the soon to be

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thirty year old nurse?

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Speaker 5: One career high in blocks this past season his second

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best hitting season. It shots not quite over two hundred.

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He was just under kind of as you mentioned, a

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lock for thirty plus points and really solid peripherals. As

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far as the power play time on ice goes, when

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he got the most power play time on ice back

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in twenty eighteen nineteen, he was only averaging one point

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fifty one a game and he only got nine power

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play points that season, and since then it's been five seven, six,

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one five, So it's a moot point. He's really stepped

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it up in terms of shorthand ended playing on the PK.

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He's got some past three years, he's gotten some short

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handed points that weren't really there before. If you have

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some short handed categories. He can be sneaky, a sneaky

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ad in that regard, and if he gets the if

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the Oilers can find a better partner for him than

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what CC was, he could certainly hit that forty point

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mark again and maybe even above that. But I wouldn't

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expect more than thirty plus points and the solid almost

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two shots, hits and blocks per game.

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Speaker 4: All right, Time to talk about the goalies, and the

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Oilers were ranked ninth in expected goals against per sixty,

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but conceded the eighth ranked actual goals against. That number

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is a bit misleading, as Stuart Skinner was well above

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expected and Picard was pretty good too, but Campbell in

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his five games, really drive that number down. He was

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pretty negative. So focusing on the two main men there

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in the crease for the upcoming season, it's going to

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be Skinnered and Pickard, I would imagine, and skinnerd was

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a pretty big revelation, I would say, playing fifty nine

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games this nine point three four goals save above expected delta.

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Fenwick was quite good as well, and Pickard also playing

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twenty three games a solid relief. Even in the playoffs.

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We saw that he's someone who in the past had

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really struggled, but seems to have found his game or

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maybe the structure in Edmonton is good enough for him.

478
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,759
So how do you think it's going to break out

479
00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:38,440
this next upcoming season, Caleberre, We're going to see a

480
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:44,559
similar sixty twenty mid twenties split for Pickard and Skinner,

481
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And do you think they can perform similarly well or

482
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is there some aggression coming.

483
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Speaker 5: I think they'll perform similarly well. If anything, I personally

484
00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:02,440
believe Stuce Skinner is top ten goalie fantasy wise and

485
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,599
in the league in this upcoming season. He's only twenty

486
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,759
five years old. He's just scratching the surface of his potential,

487
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:16,400
and fifty to sixty games is reasonable for him. I'm

488
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:19,000
not sure that they try and play him more than that,

489
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,559
but that's really a lot of that's up to the

490
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:26,519
schedule and health and all that sort of thing. But

491
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I think one of the best, one of the best tandems, because,

492
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like you said, Pickard was a revelation of himself. He

493
00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:40,279
saw some numbers that he hasn't seen since his big

494
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:45,240
fifty game season with the Avalanche back in twenty sixteen seventeen.

495
00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:53,039
So whatever system Coffee and Mark Stewart and Chris nabloc

496
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,599
are doing the coaching staff. It's working for the goalies.

497
00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:04,680
And yes, I wouldn't be extremely surprised if Skinner ends

498
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:11,440
up being a VESNA candidate. I think he's really got

499
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:18,440
that potential, and a full season under that defensive structure,

500
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,079
it's going to be tough for him to not be

501
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,920
as good as he was in that sample size with

502
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:30,960
no block behind the bench for the regular season in playoffs.

503
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: Excellent, Caleb. We really appreciate you're coming to talk to

504
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:36,680
us about the Oilers. How can people keep up with

505
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,920
all the work you're doing out there?

506
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 5: They can follow me on Twitter or X if you

507
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:47,160
prefer to call it that. Just look up see Kerney

508
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:50,920
writer and they can follow along with everything that I'm

509
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,200
writing on the Hockey News I write for and I

510
00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:58,279
run the Edmonton Oilers team site, so they can just

511
00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:03,640
go the Hockey News dot com slash Edmonton Dash Oilers

512
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:05,839
and that they can find everything there.

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00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: All right, great, We'll follow Caleb Kernie on the Hockey

514
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,200
News on X and appreciate you coming on today, Buddy.

515
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.

516
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: Hi, Benell, that's good fired pass up, Oh my goodness,

517
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:35,920
walk with a Cat quick Gram.

518
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Speaker 3: Now it's your weekly goalie talk, but Kat's Silverman Cat's Instincts.

519
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: Back with another edition of Cat's Instincts with Kat Silverman

520
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,599
and Ngel Mag we're talking Oilers goalies and that means

521
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:53,319
that we are talking Olivier Rodrigue as their top goalie. No,

522
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,599
unfortunately they did not pull the trigger and draft just

523
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,799
for a while stead when they had the chance. So

524
00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:02,759
here we are talking about mister twenty eighteen second round pick,

525
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:05,119
six foot, one hundred and seventy four pounds now twenty

526
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,839
four years old, played his second HL season and it

527
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,480
was actually looked like some improvement from the previous season

528
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,400
nine to twelve save percentage last year nine to sixteen

529
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,200
this year, got a few more wins overall, there was

530
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:23,799
some improvement. His hockey prospecting equivalency has stayed pretty similar

531
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,319
right in the mid twenties. There not a lot of

532
00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:29,799
great comps, but there's a Cal Peterson in there. So

533
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,039
we talked last year about how his nepotism in the

534
00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:35,559
twenty eighteen maybe that wasn't the best idea to go

535
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:38,039
with him because his dad being the goalie coach there

536
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:41,440
for Edmonton. Have we changed our opinion at all about

537
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,119
Rodriq after a second decent HL season, or we still

538
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,119
not as excited about him.

539
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 6: I think he looked fine. I watched some highlights and

540
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:59,680
he's unsurprisingly, he has very good rot technique. He has

541
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,599
all the standards down path. Seems like they've been drilled

542
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,400
in him since birth, which they probably have been. He's

543
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,720
got a little bit of an advantage there. The thing

544
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:12,920
that he was missing when I watched his game was

545
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:19,680
that extra little instinctive level where he was able to

546
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,119
discern when he needed to use technique and when he

547
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,680
needed to just throw it out the window, when he

548
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,359
needed to.

549
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,519
Speaker 7: Move between.

550
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 6: Pure skating, when he needed to stick handle. It seemed

551
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:37,960
like overall he had the hard work, but not necessarily

552
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,039
the top tier gift and.

553
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 7: A testament to him. I know I've been a little

554
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,200
lukewarm on him in.

555
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,319
Speaker 6: The past as the second round nepotism pick that he

556
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,359
needs to do a little more to impress me than

557
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:58,480
some of the other goaltenders, But I give him credit.

558
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,640
The Edmonton system is a really hard one to come

559
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,079
up in. It's a hard one to play in. It's

560
00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:11,440
a hard one to maintain good maintain optimism and continue

561
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,039
trending upwards, and it seems like he's rolling along. He's

562
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:19,400
been given a lot of opportunity, like every good NAPO baby,

563
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,280
he's been given a lot of opportunity that other hits

564
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,079
maybe necessarily haven't. But he's making the most of it,

565
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,360
and we're seeing his games steadily improve. He's making some

566
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:37,199
extra adventurous saves. Seems like he isn't the second guessing

567
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,239
himself and he's making more confidence saves. Seems like he's

568
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,559
reading his teammates really well, and that's something that once

569
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,800
again he's been given the gift of staying with the

570
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,280
same team his entire pro career so far. During COVID,

571
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,719
he was controversially their lone goaltending prospect who was given

572
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,559
an assignment to a team overseas, and he didn't have

573
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:03,679
the opportunity to play in North America while some of

574
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,360
their other prospects were not given loans overseas, So that

575
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,760
became a little controversial, But he made the most of that,

576
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,960
and I think that's something to be respected and appreciated.

577
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,559
I do think that it is hard to ever get

578
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:22,480
fully confident in seeing a long, fruitful career from an

579
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:25,840
Edmonton Euler's goaltender, just because that is such a hard

580
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,199
team to play behind, and we are going on i

581
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,079
would say, close to fifteen years at this point without

582
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:37,599
seeing consistently strong goaltending for me, a single goaltender for

583
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:40,360
more than two to three years in a row. So

584
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,199
I'm not going to say that he's going to become

585
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,400
the next long lived like a Henrik Lundquist Corey Crawford.

586
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:53,199
But I think he's proven that he's not going to regress,

587
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,000
and at the very least, I think he's going to

588
00:35:56,039 --> 00:35:58,400
be a good goaltender to have in their system at

589
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,360
the NHL level. I just don't know for how long.

590
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:03,559
And I do worry that if he does start to

591
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:06,360
stumble or he looks like a poor fit for any

592
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,639
systems in the future, it is a much harder sell

593
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,760
to move him somewhere else because it seems like that

594
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,719
team is very invested in keeping him around.

595
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,639
Speaker 7: We'll see how it goes.

596
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 6: I will be super happy for him if he makes

597
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,239
the most of his opportunity. Still don't think he's better

598
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,679
than Jasper Wallstatt, but.

599
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 7: Who is. That's a bold take for me to make.

600
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 4: Sarry, do you think if he is in the NHL.

601
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,440
Is he like backup at best? One B? One A

602
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,719
sounds like not starter.

603
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 6: Looks I have yet to see Edmonton put together a

604
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,079
consistent enough defensive season to confidently say that they should

605
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,679
have a pure starter, like an under Vesselevsky.

606
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 7: So I would say probably one A, one B. Right now.

607
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 6: I think he looks like he's put in the work,

608
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,960
and he's given us the numbers to prove that. I

609
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,760
think he's ready for full time an AHL action. I

610
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,440
just wouldn't immediately throw him in there and give him

611
00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:59,599
sixty five to seventy starts in a year. I'd give

612
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:01,679
him thirty five, maybe forty.

613
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 4: All right, We'll have to watch see if he does

614
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,239
that this year. Obviously Pickard was reasonable in the past.

615
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,039
We'll see how many starts he gets. Let's move on

616
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:15,039
to the next guy, Emil Vinnie. They needed another guy

617
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:17,159
in their system, and that is what they got. Twenty

618
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:19,719
twenty four to sixty fourth overall pick six ft, three

619
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,239
hundred and eighty seven pounds. He played in Mestus this season,

620
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,079
as well as some international events. Overall, seemed like consensus

621
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:27,559
one of the top goalies this year. At least a

622
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,239
lot of people seem to like him, who was the

623
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:35,280
fifth goalie to go after Ilana Bakov, mikhil Igorov, Carter

624
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,679
George and Evan Gardner. Kerry Ramo is both finished and

625
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,079
a reasonable camp for him as far as the hockey

626
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:44,119
prospecting model is concerned. So, Kat, what do your instincts

627
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:45,239
tell us about Vinnie?

628
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 6: We love to see a good carri Ramo comp That's

629
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,039
a fun name to have thrown back in here.

630
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,159
Speaker 7: Like you said, they needed another guy in their system.

631
00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 6: I think he's a perfectly acceptable to guy, a perfectly

632
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,920
acceptable guy to have in there.

633
00:37:58,039 --> 00:37:59,639
Speaker 7: Watching through some of his highlights.

634
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 6: It's to watch because I do think that some of

635
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:08,119
these finish, developed goaltenders do a really good job of

636
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:12,360
playing in international tournaments regardless of the ice surface that

637
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,679
they're playing on during the regular season, just because they're

638
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:21,840
given a little more aggression when they're being developed. They

639
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,960
tend to stand towards the top of the blue paint.

640
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:26,280
They're a little farther out than we see some of

641
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,840
their Swedish counterparts, but they aren't afraid to get a

642
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,400
little more conservative with their overall positioning while keeping some

643
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,239
of their strong skating in Some of their willingness to

644
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,119
stay on their feet for a little bit longer than

645
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:44,960
we see once again those the Swedish and sometimes the

646
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:46,079
Russian counterparts.

647
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:49,119
Speaker 7: So he looked really adaptable.

648
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,559
Speaker 6: In some of the international highlights I saw, he looked

649
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:55,960
like he was doing a pretty good job of tracking,

650
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,199
didn't stay super flat on the goal line, so had

651
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:03,239
some nice angles there. Didn't look like anything that wowed

652
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:09,639
me a ton, But it's Edmonton, so I wouldn't throw

653
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,360
any goaltender in there immediately after getting drafted.

654
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 7: So we're likely the.

655
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 6: Number of years away from seeing him at the NHL

656
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,760
level anyway, So I think he's a strong person to

657
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,679
add into their system because they do need someone who's

658
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,039
a couple of years away who they can continue to

659
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:31,199
allow to develop patiently and in maybe a less pressure

660
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,480
filled system than keeping them in North America where all

661
00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:37,519
of the Oilers fan's eyes will be on them twenty

662
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:40,440
four to seven, because that fan base tends to get

663
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:44,480
a little intense even with their prospects, watching them develop

664
00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:47,280
and making it clear that they're eager to see them

665
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,639
hit the pros sooner rather than later. So it gives

666
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:53,920
them a chance to develop over in Europe without having

667
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,239
to worry about being rushed up too soon, which is nice.

668
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: Yes, I will say, if you you're looking for prospect goalies,

669
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:05,480
there's probably better systems. But thank you cav forgiving us

670
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:07,960
your instincts. On the Edmonton Oiler Goalies.

671
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: Digs, the Dynasty dig at then two Boilers edition, the

672
00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:26,159
Oilers actually ranked kind of middle of the road for

673
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,119
Victor in prospects, though the consensus seems to be lower

674
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:33,320
than that. It starts out with the no brainer Victor.

675
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,199
Who's your no brainer for the Oilers.

676
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:37,199
Speaker 4: Well, he's such a no brainer we can't get him

677
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:38,719
out of our brain because we talked about him on

678
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,599
the Buffalo episode. Then he got traded tod They Beinton

679
00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:44,360
Oilers and that's of course. Matthew Savoy twenty twenty two,

680
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,639
ninth overall pick, still a little bit undersized at five

681
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:51,119
to ten and eighty pounds. Played one NHL game. Oh sorry,

682
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:53,880
I played it NHL game this season six HL five

683
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,480
points in those six AHL games. They went back to

684
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,440
the WHL and was really good for Wanachi went to

685
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,880
the U twenty World Junior Championships. Was disappointing, like a

686
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,400
lot of the Canadians were. Unfortunately got traded to moose

687
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,800
Jaw and he was pretty awesome there With Moosejaw went

688
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,400
to the Memortal Cup. The production was pretty outstanding. Sixteen

689
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,920
points in ten games with moose Jaw after over two

690
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,400
points per game in the regular season. And looking at

691
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,679
his player card from Mitch Brown, offense ninety seven percent,

692
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:25,360
tile transition really good at seventy nine percentile, and he's

693
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,679
even his defense in the WHL was pretty outstanding at

694
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,519
ninety eight percentiles. You love to see that his game score,

695
00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:34,679
his primary point involvement, his expected goals and assists, and

696
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,000
his entries all look pretty outstanding for Matthew Savoy. Looking

697
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:41,679
at his FHL player card, you can see that he

698
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,400
is probably more of a points only option. His shots

699
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,800
are really good, but his hits and blocks are well

700
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,320
below average, so his shots drive a pretty high number

701
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,880
for his bash. But other than that, it's a bit disappointing,

702
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,119
unfortunately for Matthew Savoy. But the scoring is what you're

703
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:01,519
here for. That's where your hope that translates, and if

704
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:04,960
it does, oh boy, and that's something to get pretty

705
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,480
excited about. But let's hear a little bit more about

706
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,519
Matthew Savoya from OURFHL scout.

707
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,559
Speaker 3: Our FHL scout in this case Joshua, he says not

708
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,119
an out and out speedster. Savoy as a fascater, regularly

709
00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:20,119
uses his breakaway speed to create distance between himself and

710
00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:24,519
defenders and takes advantage of fast breaks. Passing and handling.

711
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:28,079
Offensive skills are Matt Savoy's bread and butter. The skills

712
00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:30,679
really shot in the power play with creativity with plenty

713
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,639
of time and space. He has a combination of skill

714
00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:36,719
in IQ creativity, it can be difficult to tell what

715
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,320
he's going to do next. He can beat defenders with

716
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,480
slick stick handling, or can make small adjustments to get

717
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:47,000
the perfect shot or pass off around defenders shooting, there

718
00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:49,719
was one goal that Joshua saw he had to rewind

719
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,519
a couple of times to see where and how the

720
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:54,559
shot actually went. In SA, boy can get a heavy,

721
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:58,159
accurate shot off really quickly, definitely second to his stick handling,

722
00:42:58,159 --> 00:43:01,079
but it's big enough threat to keep defenders and goalies

723
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:05,000
true on the shot and on IQ. Savoy has a

724
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:08,280
brain for offense and excels in all facets. He seems

725
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,159
to live for the puck on his stick and pretty

726
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:13,280
much always makes a good decision with the puck. Sometimes

727
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,079
he can force passes, but generally he has the skill

728
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:19,440
to pull off some beautiful and surprising passes in plays.

729
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,960
He's especially dangerous on the fast break, whether that's alone

730
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,440
and depending on his handles and shot, or with the teammate,

731
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,760
giving him even more options for checking. Well. Not a

732
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,760
standout for checker, Savoy can use his speed and low

733
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,880
center of gravity to be a quite annoying presence to

734
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,840
opposing defenders. On defense, Savoy did get penalty to kill

735
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,079
time this year and didn't look out of place. He

736
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:45,199
has an active stick in the defensive zone, but sometimes

737
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,960
his lack of size five ten one seventy nine got

738
00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:52,199
him into trouble. So the best asset Savoy's offensive IQ

739
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,360
and skill in pretty much all facets of the offensive

740
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,679
game are top tier. The biggest concern the size and

741
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,920
the defense Savoys. He's not going to be a Selki

742
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,960
nominee and big defenders might cause some trouble when there's

743
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:08,400
less time to work. The top tier outcome for Savoy

744
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:12,800
tier one point per game plus player elite offensive talent

745
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,960
and on the Oilers kids justification for that Savoy has

746
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,239
all the potential skills to be an elite first line

747
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,880
player if everything falls well. He can skate, he can score,

748
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,400
he can pass, He isn't a liability in his own zone.

749
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,480
Tier two would be the fiftieth percentile outcome. That's a

750
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:35,320
seventy to eighty point score with below average bash, Savoya

751
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,800
will at least be a power play specialist, a middle

752
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,079
six forward. The biggest problem fantasy wise that if Savoy

753
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,559
is that if Savoy isn't producing points, he likely won't

754
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:49,199
be doing much else. The stylistic comparable. At best, Savoy

755
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,679
could become a Bradon point type player, great versatile forward

756
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,000
that consistently threatens one hundred points. It would be shocking

757
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,519
if Savoy isn't a full time players soon, says Joshua

758
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:05,119
having potential or positive offensive impact, especially if he's paired

759
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:10,239
with another great young offensive talent, our friend Mason Black.

760
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,199
The NHL Rank King put Matt Savoy up against one

761
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:18,079
of his former teammates, Yuri Kolich, and Coolich actually came

762
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:21,199
out ahead in this one, fifty three to forty seven

763
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,440
percent Victor Coolidge versus Savoy. Who you got?

764
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm taking Koolik here. I like him more as

765
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,920
a for sure, two way guy. I think he can

766
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,280
play in all situations, and he's got the energy, he's

767
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,440
got the motor, he's got the size. He's six to

768
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,920
one hundred and eighty five pounds, not too much heavier,

769
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,480
but he's got a little bit more of the height

770
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,840
and him producing in the AHL at super strong levels,

771
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:48,639
historic levels. Really he's played. He's an April fourteenth birthday,

772
00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:52,400
so he's had two HL seasons as a teenager. It's

773
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,960
been pretty incredible to watch and his production has been outstanding.

774
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,199
So you love to see that. Just one NHL game

775
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,639
so far, but I would take him. I know that

776
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:04,719
the upside for Savoy is higher, but as mentioned in

777
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,079
the scouting report by Josh, if he's not scoring points,

778
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:10,440
then he's not necessarily doing a lot for you, and

779
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,360
I could see him being the type of forward that

780
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,920
gets benched or has issues getting enough ice time because

781
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,079
of those things. We've we talked with with Joel a

782
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:21,960
couple of years ago about how different Savoy is from

783
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:26,559
bradon point and he maintains that it's not really similar,

784
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:29,760
and so I would I understand the comparison. They're both

785
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,079
WHL guys, are both undersides, they're both really craftively offensively,

786
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:36,440
but I'm not sure that he has that realistic upside,

787
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:39,880
although it's certainly possible. Anything's possible, but I would definitely

788
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,519
take Kolik here. I think he's the more secure option,

789
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,639
and I think he's gonna he has a higher floor anyways,

790
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,280
a Savoy has the higher upside. But I think this

791
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:54,480
pole might not have taken into context the potential of

792
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,559
Matthew Savoy playing with Connor McDavid or Lee and Dreysidel,

793
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:02,639
because that obviously is pretty tantalizing. And if he gets

794
00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:04,079
that role, or if he gets a role on that

795
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:06,239
power play, which seems unlikely at this point because it's

796
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,159
pretty locked in, it's pretty possible that he could have

797
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,880
tremendous upside even with limited two way acumen. I like Kulick,

798
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,800
but I recognize the potential for Savoy here, and I

799
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,039
think he could have some pretty special upside. I would

800
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:21,559
just caution people that are going a little bananas trying

801
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:23,559
to draft him right now in one year league thinking

802
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:25,840
he's going to have that role already. I think he

803
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,079
needs some AHL time, and I think he needs a

804
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:30,719
show that he can hang a full season in the AHL.

805
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,960
Looking at the hockey prospecting. Between the two, Savoy clearly

806
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,440
has the higher potential based on that model, sixty six

807
00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:39,960
percent chance of being a star based on his WHL time,

808
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,880
and Kulick just six percent chance of being a star

809
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,800
base on his AHL time, and a lot of that

810
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,440
is based not on his AHL time but on the

811
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,599
previous seasons where he didn't really have a very good

812
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:53,000
equivalency in the Czech leagues. So that's why Kulick doesn't

813
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:56,159
look as good in this model Savoy. In terms of

814
00:47:56,159 --> 00:47:58,360
some of his other comps, I think bradon point is

815
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,119
here statistically on the hockey, but I didn't use that

816
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:03,280
one because I don't think it's super realistic. But I

817
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,000
think someone like mckel Granlin is probably a little bit

818
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:09,639
more realistic, and they're actually closer to SI similar size,

819
00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:11,920
and so I think that's a little bit more appropriate.

820
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,119
And Mikil Granlind certainly had some pretty decent seasons, and

821
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,239
he also had some kind of more average to subpar

822
00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:23,239
or replacement level seasons, so that might be Savoy. I

823
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,719
think Grandlin is much better too way than Savoy is

824
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,119
now anyways, so that would need to come a little

825
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:31,320
bit too for him to hit that potential as well.

826
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,480
But there's some other guys in here as well, like

827
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:37,239
just for Bokefist, maybe that would be a disappointing outcome,

828
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:40,320
and Alexander Holtz, who's a little bit more uniqu tomension

829
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,800
in terms of his offense, which would be not at

830
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,760
this point not a great outcome for Savoy. Looking at

831
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,920
some of the other models, Jay Fresh has Savoy at

832
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,440
eighteen percent chance of being star, sixty eight percent chance

833
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,400
of being in NHLR, So that's pretty decent for that model.

834
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,719
It's typically pretty pessimistic all in all. I think that

835
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:02,360
Savoy is a there's some volatility there. He has some

836
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,960
pretty high upside, but I think that it's not his

837
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,920
ice time and his role isn't super secure. I think,

838
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,559
as Josh mentioned there, he should be on the power play,

839
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:15,039
but whether he earns that ice time depending on the coach,

840
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,760
is a little bit questionable. And if he's not getting

841
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,800
that role, then his upside is pretty limited.

842
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,119
Speaker 3: Jesse, who Victor is your need to know prospect?

843
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah? The need to know is bo Achy and he

844
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:33,920
was a twenty twenty three second round pick fifty sixth

845
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,679
overall by the Oilers. Six foot er one hundred and

846
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,599
seventy four pounds right handed. D had nine points in

847
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:42,239
fourteen games for the Barry Colts before suffering a season

848
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,079
ending injury in mid November. So unfortunately, we were hoping

849
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:48,440
to learn a little bit more about bo Achy and

850
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,239
what kind of step he could take, but we didn't

851
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,480
see a whole lot because of the injury. So we

852
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:55,599
didn't learn a ton from his draft plus one season.

853
00:49:56,039 --> 00:49:58,519
Looking at his FHL player card based on those limited

854
00:49:58,519 --> 00:50:01,639
fourteen games, and we can see that overall, his bashes

855
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,840
above average, his hits are about average, his blockser above

856
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,280
and his shots are and eighty percent tiles, so he

857
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,679
should be around a seventy percent tile for bash. His

858
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,920
goals for sixty were really high considering he had four

859
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,440
goals in fourteen games last season, he had eleven in

860
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,239
sixty six games. So someone who can potentially put the

861
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,199
puck on the net. I'm always skeptical of offensive defenseman

862
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,719
scoring in the junior leagues, but some of his other numbers,

863
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,119
he had some pretty decent play, driving above average in

864
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:31,480
the OHL. But let's hear a little bit more about

865
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,960
what makes bow Aki so interesting for my FHL scout.

866
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:40,639
Speaker 3: Okay, FHL scout, Patrick says a bow ache. He's a

867
00:50:40,679 --> 00:50:43,199
smooth skater who has good speed as well as turning

868
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,320
and pivoting well passing and handling. He's an excellent passer

869
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,000
and handler. He makes accurate and timely passes to facilitate

870
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:54,519
breakouts and set up scoring opportunities in the offensive zone.

871
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,880
He handles the puck well on the brush and in

872
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,800
the zones. He's more of a passer than shooter. His

873
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,039
shot can use some work. There are times when he

874
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:05,679
shoots right into defenders rather than finding a lane and

875
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,480
getting it on net. Bo Ak's IQ is high. He

876
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:13,199
has a low panic threshold, showing poise with the puck.

877
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,440
He exhibits good vision on the rush and when distributing

878
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,840
the puck. Poor checking, Aki will often venture down to

879
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,639
the faceoff dot or further into the offensive zone to

880
00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:28,039
help keep the four check in cycle going defense. In

881
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,119
his viewings, this defense did not look great. There were

882
00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:34,000
several times when he lost board battles or coughed up

883
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,159
the puck in the defensive zone. He had some poke checks,

884
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,000
but others that miss the mark. Best asset Patrick says

885
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:44,400
it's passing and handling once again, and the biggest concern

886
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,239
is defense, and the limited sample sized Patrick sawd this

887
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,360
was easily the biggest weakness the top tier outcome perhaps

888
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,079
if everything goes right, second pair defenseman. That's because if

889
00:51:57,079 --> 00:52:00,360
he can stay healthy and sufficiently develop his weaknesses, he

890
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,880
might be able to reach that type of a outcome

891
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,199
fifteen percentile media outcome more likely tops out as a

892
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:10,039
third pairing defenseman or a tweener who gets some NHL

893
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:13,920
games but isn't full time. His offensive game isn't enough

894
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,400
to boost him higher, his defense isn't good enough to

895
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,360
keep him there. Style istic comparable in terms of style,

896
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,239
Mackenzie Wiger might be a comparable defenseman who is better

897
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,719
defensively and overall. Achy got injured relatively early in the season,

898
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,440
which hurt his development. Hopefully he can stay healthy in

899
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,079
the coming season. The NHL Rank King put bo Aichi

900
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:41,719
up against Andrew Gibson, and the result of doing this

901
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,000
is that, let's see the result of this Bowl. Is

902
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,880
that bo Aiki sixty percent to forty percent victor? Is

903
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,440
that how you rank him?

904
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 6: Yeah?

905
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:52,199
Speaker 3: I guess.

906
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 4: So It's worth talking a little bit more about Andrew

907
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,159
Gibson because I think not a lot of people heard

908
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:59,199
about him or know too much about him. He was

909
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,480
a twenty forty second overall pick, so he was actually

910
00:53:03,559 --> 00:53:07,039
really drafted similarly, a little bit ahead of Bowiki, but

911
00:53:07,159 --> 00:53:10,159
in a similar range. He's a six foot three right

912
00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:14,519
handed D that Nashville took, and he also plays in

913
00:53:14,679 --> 00:53:18,360
the O for the Suite Greyhounds, and so that right

914
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,559
handed D often Both of these guys being right handed

915
00:53:21,639 --> 00:53:25,440
D can be a difficult role to phill. We don't

916
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,760
obviously know enough about bow Akis season, but Gibson had

917
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:34,920
a similar PNHL E this past season. He had forty

918
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,960
four points in sixty eight games for forty six PNHL E.

919
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:41,119
I do think that I would probably take Aky. I

920
00:53:41,159 --> 00:53:44,400
think his skating is a little bit better. I don't

921
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,880
think the shoulder injury shouldn't affect that, and he's a

922
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,880
really strong skater and has some pretty good ability. So

923
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,360
far as far as it looks in the OHL, I'm

924
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,079
a little bit higher on him, but I do really

925
00:53:57,199 --> 00:53:59,960
like what Nashville has been doing in terms of their draft,

926
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:03,119
so I also trust their drafting, and he seems Gibson

927
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:06,639
seems like a pretty decent option between the two, so

928
00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:09,000
I would go aikey Looking at the hockey prospecting between

929
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,039
the two, it's actually pretty similar that both than the

930
00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:13,440
sub ten percent chance of being a star with sub

931
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:17,360
fifty percent nhll er probability. Some other guys that look

932
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,440
like Boiki in the model. The one I came up

933
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,320
with is Nick Letty, who was an average producer, had

934
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,960
some seasons that were pretty good, but overall great skater,

935
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,159
not necessarily the best fantasy asset. I think Ak might

936
00:54:30,199 --> 00:54:33,159
be similar to that. Looking at the j fresh card,

937
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,440
three percent chance of being a star eight percent chance

938
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,880
of being an NHL are a little bit more pistimistic

939
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,760
on Akey. I think Aki is going to be someone

940
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,599
who gets NHL time and plays. Maybe he's middle to

941
00:54:42,599 --> 00:54:45,239
bottom pairing, but I don't think he's going to have

942
00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:49,360
the high impact and fantasy that some people may be thinking.

943
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 3: Jesse and Victor. Who is your keep your eye on prospect.

944
00:54:54,599 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 4: We're going to go with Sam O'Reilly, who was just

945
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,400
drafted twenty twenty four, thirty second overall pick. In fact,

946
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,280
I believe the Oilers traded up to get him, and

947
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,119
he's a six foot one, one hundred and eight three

948
00:55:07,159 --> 00:55:09,519
pounds right shot center, fifty six points and sixty eight

949
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:11,920
games for the OHL Champ London Knights, playing in a

950
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,920
little bit of a diminished role down the lineup a

951
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,360
little bit. So he had twelve points in sixteen playoff games.

952
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,639
And this was his first season in the OHL after

953
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:23,280
coming up from the Greater Ontario Hockey League Junior Hockey League,

954
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,280
which is a lower level, So that's pretty big jump

955
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,239
in competition level and he did great for a really

956
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,239
strong team. He's someone who I could see popping off

957
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,360
next season with the larger role for the London Knights.

958
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,719
He looking at his jay for sorry, his Mitch Brown

959
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,400
tracking data sixty six, a sixty four overall offense at

960
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,280
sixty three, defense at sixty seven percentile in his transition

961
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,079
game at forty five. So overall, this doesn't look a

962
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:52,239
lot like a player who should have been drafted in

963
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,599
the first round. But as often happens with the London Knights,

964
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,559
the time on ice is a little bit muted compared

965
00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:01,480
to some of the older guys, and so it all,

966
00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:04,480
it's often that you see greater production in the draft

967
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,320
plus one season. We'll have to keep an eye on that.

968
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,840
Looking at the per sixty numbers from the FHL player Card,

969
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,880
which is always good to look at because that tells

970
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,440
you a different story because it's based on per sixty

971
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,119
and not total time on ice. But you can see

972
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:19,840
that Sam Oiley looks a bit like a bash darling.

973
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,599
His hits and blocks are above ninetieth percentile. His shots

974
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:27,679
are seventieth percentile, so his bash rates out at ninetieth percentile,

975
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:29,800
which is pretty fantastic, So there should be a really

976
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,760
high peripheral floor there. His assists per six here in

977
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,880
the ninetieth percentile. If he can translate even most of that,

978
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:40,199
he will be a pretty valuable fantasy asset. Depends on

979
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,639
how much scoring there is, but he looks like he

980
00:56:42,679 --> 00:56:46,880
could be pretty interesting. It lists him as a winger here.

981
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:49,480
He might be. He might not be a center full time.

982
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:51,519
We'll have to wait and see what happens with that.

983
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:54,360
Looking at the play driving card, you can see that

984
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,880
he actually does drive play pretty well in terms of

985
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,559
his fenwork and COURSI. He gets to the puck to

986
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:02,719
the high day in areas pretty well and sixty eighth

987
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,800
percentile for face off, so he was taking a fair

988
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,679
amount at least at this point. But let's learn a

989
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,519
little bit more about Sam Oiley from Ryfrid Schell Scout Jesse.

990
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 3: Chill Scout Patricks says O'Reilly's an average skater, not great

991
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,800
at beginning or able to put on the extra speed

992
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,719
to get pass defenders. While he isn't the best technically,

993
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,159
he makes up for it with effort, making sure he

994
00:57:23,199 --> 00:57:25,159
gets where he needs to be most of the time.

995
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,360
Sam's a very good passer in handler. He excels at

996
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,119
making touch passes to teammates and finding at the right

997
00:57:31,159 --> 00:57:34,039
places to keep play going. He has good hands when

998
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:38,239
transporting the pucket cycling in the zone. Well'riiley has a

999
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:40,599
pretty quick and accurate shot, but the real key for

1000
00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:43,719
him at this point are his hands. He shoots best

1001
00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:46,159
in clothes and scored most of his goals from the crease.

1002
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,599
IQ pretty high for O'Reilly. He sees the game, able

1003
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:54,079
to anticipate. When under pressure, he maintains his composure and

1004
00:57:54,199 --> 00:57:57,760
works relentlessly to get a good pass out there to

1005
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,039
a teammate, even when he gets tangled up board checking

1006
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,199
hard worker on the for check. As they say, o'reiley

1007
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,599
got that dog in him. He tries to get or

1008
00:58:07,639 --> 00:58:10,159
maintain the puck and works with his teammates to maintain

1009
00:58:10,239 --> 00:58:14,400
possession defense. Sam is a really good defensive forward. Multiple

1010
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,199
times Patrick saw him skate back to try to stall

1011
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:20,119
an odd man rush. In general, he skates back hard,

1012
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,519
supports the defenseman in the D zone. And the best

1013
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:28,239
asset then is the compete. The intensity he brings to

1014
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,719
his game will lead him to keep trying to improve

1015
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,840
all parts of his game. Skating's the biggest concern currently.

1016
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,679
It's the area that needs the most work. If everything

1017
00:58:36,719 --> 00:58:40,920
develops well, this is a potential high end reciver, possibly

1018
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,280
even getting time as a second line center. Justification is

1019
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,119
he's got the two way game as the base to

1020
00:58:47,159 --> 00:58:49,880
get him to the NHL and the will to refine

1021
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,280
his game, which will endear him coaches and possibly give

1022
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,880
him time. The median outcome, maybe he tops out as

1023
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,400
a three C or even a four C if he

1024
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,119
can't refine his skating. Along with continuing to improve his

1025
00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:04,599
offense to some degree, his compete like will get some

1026
00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:08,760
some role in the NHL stylistic comparable Kelly Yarnkrock. In

1027
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,440
the end, he's not likely to score a lot, but

1028
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,599
he's going to be a defensive asset.

1029
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 5: Well.

1030
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:16,599
Speaker 3: Ridley got time on the power play and the penalty kill,

1031
00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:19,840
which showed the trust that coaches had in him to

1032
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,800
perform in multiple situations. This was on a London Night's

1033
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,960
team with a lot of talent. The NHL ranking poll

1034
00:59:26,199 --> 00:59:30,679
Samuel Riiley versus Emil Heming, Heming is through in a

1035
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,840
route the Dallas Star sixty two to thirty eight percent.

1036
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:35,559
What do you say, Victor.

1037
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 4: Those of you that listen to draft content know that

1038
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,840
I'm an mL Heming guy. I love this guy. I

1039
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,599
think that he showed a lot at the uaighteens. I

1040
00:59:43,639 --> 00:59:47,719
thought his shot is impressive. He can do more than

1041
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,159
just shoot though he's a right shot, right wing, six one,

1042
00:59:50,199 --> 00:59:53,280
two hundred and five pounds. And I also have been

1043
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:57,039
really trusting Dallas drafting recently. Obviously they've had some really

1044
00:59:57,079 --> 01:00:00,760
big hits with why Johnston, Jason Robertson, and obviously some

1045
01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:03,159
other guys that were drafted a little bit higher who

1046
01:00:03,159 --> 01:00:06,719
you expected, like Ikin and even Anger, although that's the

1047
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,280
only goalie they've drafted in the last I don't know

1048
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,039
seven or eight years who's been good. But Heming also

1049
01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:16,440
is really young June twenty seventh birthday, and he was

1050
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,000
playing forty games in the and the Alga in the

1051
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,159
top professional league, so not a lot of scoring there

1052
01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:24,440
eleven points in forty games, but playing being able to

1053
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,320
play at that level was really impressive and it showed.

1054
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,639
He did play at the U twenty World Junior Championships

1055
01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:33,320
and he was excellent for Finland at the UA Teens.

1056
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,559
He should be in the OHL this year, which will

1057
01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:38,480
be interesting to see him come down to that level,

1058
01:00:38,519 --> 01:00:40,400
which is a little bit lower, and hopefully he lights

1059
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,960
it up. But I love Emil Heming. I'm definitely taking him.

1060
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,440
I think the upside is much higher than Sam o'riiley,

1061
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,159
who I think at best is a middle six forward.

1062
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,480
I'm not even sure he's the center, and I don't

1063
01:00:52,519 --> 01:00:54,920
think that the offensive upside is huge. We'll see maybe

1064
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,400
he pops off in London this next year. As we

1065
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,400
were talking about the pans between these two, looks higher

1066
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,079
for Samurailey forty nine to thirty seven for Emal Heming,

1067
01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:09,239
but as I mentioned, I'm much higher on Hemming. Looking

1068
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,079
at the hockey prospecting between the two also looks higher

1069
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:18,119
for O'Reilly sixteen percent star potential to three percent, and

1070
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:21,159
the NHL a probability higher for Samurailey at forty five

1071
01:01:21,679 --> 01:01:25,760
to eighteen. Looking at some other comps for Samuriley, Yeah,

1072
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,440
there's some interesting ones here, maybe like a Kyle Palmery,

1073
01:01:28,719 --> 01:01:32,199
maybe like a Casey Middle stat. I think Jake Debrusk

1074
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,559
is someone who looks a bit alike in this model,

1075
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,880
someone who's a winger who has some average production average

1076
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,760
to maybe blow average blow replacement level depending on the

1077
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,840
league settings. I could see O'Reilly being that if he

1078
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,800
makes it the j freshcard. Pretty pessimistic on Samurailey just

1079
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,960
one percent chance of being a star, nine percent chance

1080
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,639
of being an Hler, and I'm pretty pessimistic on him

1081
01:01:54,679 --> 01:01:56,639
being a star. I think there's maybe a little bit

1082
01:01:56,639 --> 01:01:59,320
more likelihood of an NHLer. We'll have to see. But

1083
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,280
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01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,119
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1087
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1088
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:23,480
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