Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host Samantha Fay.
Speaker 2: And I'm Gabwi and we're.
Speaker 1: So excited to introduce to you a brand new guest,
Speaker 1: and we're going to dive into all sorts of things
Speaker 1: about being psychic and working as an intuitive and introduce
Speaker 1: you to a new podcast. So let me tell you
Speaker 1: about our guest. Hilly b is a psychic medium and
Speaker 1: host of Opening the Door podcast. In her psychic medium shipwork,
Speaker 1: she loves to bring through spirit guides and loved ones
Speaker 1: who have crossed over to deliver meaningful messages. Heilly invites
Speaker 1: all who are ready to start their spiritual journey with
Speaker 1: joy and without fear. Through her work on her podcast,
Speaker 1: she believes that if everyone were more connected to their intuition,
Speaker 1: the world would be a more vibrant place. I completely
Speaker 1: agree with that too. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: I am so so honored to be here Psychic Teachers
Speaker 4: of the podcast was honestly such an integral part in
Speaker 4: my journey, so to be here chatting with the both
Speaker 4: of you is such an honor.
Speaker 2: Thanks Filey, and I have to tell you folks who
Speaker 2: are listening that Haley has had us on her podcast,
Speaker 2: and I was a real nervous show, it really was,
Speaker 2: but it was great. Hailey. You're a wonderful interviewer. I
Speaker 2: learned a lot. It was a great experience. So thank
Speaker 2: you so much for having us on your show. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I had so much fun in each of your separate
Speaker 4: interviews you've been on at different times, and I just
Speaker 4: had so much fun talking to both of you and
Speaker 4: just getting that time and also having other people being
Speaker 4: able to.
Speaker 3: Hear that as well.
Speaker 4: Samantha on yours, I think we talked about I think
Speaker 4: I asked you so many like big universe questions like
Speaker 4: what do you think about?
Speaker 3: Like we did really these like big overarching questions.
Speaker 1: What is the meaning of time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. I was just like what do you think?
Speaker 3: And deb for you. I think I just.
Speaker 4: Had such a fun time learning more deeply about your
Speaker 4: story and how you got to where you are and
Speaker 4: all that wonderful stuff.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Bailey, So tell us about you, tell us how
Speaker 2: you got into this world.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I definitely grew up in a house that
Speaker 4: had a lot of spirit activity. Whether looking back on it,
Speaker 4: I definitely had no clue kind of what was going on.
Speaker 4: One of my earliest spirit encounters that I remember. We
Speaker 4: lived in a rancher or my parents still live there.
Speaker 4: It's a big, long kind of rancher house, and so
Speaker 4: all of our bedrooms are just in like a line,
Speaker 4: you know how ranchers are, So it's a line long hallway,
Speaker 4: and my parents' bedroom was the first door it was open.
Speaker 4: I knew nobody was in there, and I walked by.
Speaker 4: I think I might have been five or six at
Speaker 4: this time, and out of the corner of my eye,
Speaker 4: I just saw this like grainy.
Speaker 3: I knew she was a woman, this.
Speaker 4: Kind of grainy figure sitting at the end of their bed,
Speaker 4: and I remember thinking that's not possible, well, because I
Speaker 4: know nobody's in there.
Speaker 3: So I backed up. I looked in the door again
Speaker 3: and there was no one there. And I didn't really
Speaker 3: think much of it. I just moved on with my
Speaker 3: day basically.
Speaker 4: But I had a lot of spirit experiences and encounters
Speaker 4: in that house, and that kind of I think just
Speaker 4: maybe I was already open to it because I was
Speaker 4: young and just.
Speaker 3: Part of my personality. Maybe it's part of my birth chart.
Speaker 3: I don't know. So I experienced all of that and
Speaker 3: it ebbed and flowed a little bit.
Speaker 4: I had some still interesting experiences in high school in
Speaker 4: that house. I went to college, and I felt like
Speaker 4: I was really kind of like psychically turned on in
Speaker 4: college for I don't know, it just kind of rolled
Speaker 4: that way.
Speaker 3: I was like the witchy one in the friend group.
Speaker 4: I was interpreting people's dreams for fun and sensing spirit
Speaker 4: everywhere and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: But it still took me a.
Speaker 4: While to accept that maybe I was a psychic medium,
Speaker 4: or like I just had this extra ability or whatever
Speaker 4: you want to call it. So I finally, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm a few was a few years into the workforce,
Speaker 4: and I finally thought, I have to figure this out.
Speaker 4: I have to figure this out because I just had
Speaker 4: this and maybe this was.
Speaker 3: A psychic moment of some sort.
Speaker 4: But I had this feeling that if I didn't pursue
Speaker 4: some form of understanding, like my psychic or my medium
Speaker 4: to my spirit connection, that I would I basically saw
Speaker 4: myself when I was like forty five and felt so
Speaker 4: much regret for not doing anything about that.
Speaker 3: So I found podcasts, I found psychic.
Speaker 4: Teachers and started listening and just started reading books and
Speaker 4: listening and trying stuff out myself, and that's.
Speaker 3: How it happened for me.
Speaker 2: Well, you could name one book that was the primary
Speaker 2: book that spurred you forward. What was that book?
Speaker 4: I found the book The Gift by Echo Bodine to
Speaker 4: be really a really helpful one.
Speaker 3: It's just such a great primer.
Speaker 4: I feel like for understanding general understanding of like the
Speaker 4: Clayre's and maybe how spirit works and.
Speaker 2: All of that.
Speaker 4: I also read early in my journey I read Meet
Speaker 4: Your Soul by Elisa Romeo.
Speaker 3: Not sure if you're familiar with.
Speaker 4: That one, and that one though I know I'm not
Speaker 4: sure like if every practice really stuck with me. I
Speaker 4: think it was just helpful to start understanding how spirit worked.
Speaker 4: So those were like kind of one of my kind
Speaker 4: of first two books that really, you know, helps me understand.
Speaker 4: But honestly, I'm a listener really, so especially like I
Speaker 4: was just listening to podcasts to and from work, I
Speaker 4: was like really consuming a lot of content, especially ps
Speaker 4: I think teachers content, and that's what really I would say,
Speaker 4: really really helps me start putting the pieces together or
Speaker 4: like asking asking questions also, which I think is a
Speaker 4: big part of this work too.
Speaker 1: And also I think listening to podcasts. Obviously the books help,
Speaker 1: but listening to podcasts reminds you that you're not alone.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: When I started out, we didn't have a podcast, but
Speaker 1: I would read whenever I could, and then late at night,
Speaker 1: after the kids went to bed, I'd go upstairs and
Speaker 1: I would put Haye House Radio on my computers. So
Speaker 1: long ago it was Yeah, I remember just listening to
Speaker 1: all the people calling in and the host and thinking, Wow,
Speaker 1: other people have had those experiences too, and so it
Speaker 1: normalized a lot of what I thought was weird for
Speaker 1: me and made me feel more confident and comfortable to
Speaker 1: actually show up for the in person classes and you know,
Speaker 1: to try this, but I just think it's scary. It's
Speaker 1: scary every step of the way. And that's why I
Speaker 1: think it's good to have resources like this and opening
Speaker 1: the doors. What was the first time you did a
Speaker 1: professional reading, because that's really different from being in college,
Speaker 1: and like, hey, I'll pull some cards for you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: great question.
Speaker 4: And I will say, like, kind of what you said
Speaker 4: about not feeling alone. That's one of the main reasons
Speaker 4: that I started opening the door was because I had
Speaker 4: a lot of fear in what I was explaining somehow
Speaker 4: left out of that hole where how I got to
Speaker 4: hear is I did have a lot of fear, like
Speaker 4: I didn't want to go to a psychic because I
Speaker 4: was afraid they were going to be like, no, you're
Speaker 4: just crazy, Like you know, you're not psychic, You're just
Speaker 4: off your rocker, you know. So I had this fear,
Speaker 4: and one of the reasons I started opening the door
Speaker 4: was because I wanted people to.
Speaker 3: Not do not feel alone. But yeah, so first professional reading,
Speaker 3: I will say I practiced for I think about a
Speaker 3: year and a half to two years before I did
Speaker 3: any sort of paid reading.
Speaker 4: And so I think that helped me get so comfortable
Speaker 4: when it came the time somebody was going to actually
Speaker 4: pay me to do that. I remember I was getting
Speaker 4: a lot of referrals from friends of friends and stuff,
Speaker 4: and a lot of it actually almost everything I do,
Speaker 4: especially because I really started kicking up my development during
Speaker 4: the pandemic time, so it's a lot of online stuff.
Speaker 4: A lot of what I do is through zoom. So
Speaker 4: I was like just zooming with people a few nights
Speaker 4: a week doing practice readings and stuff.
Speaker 3: And I had started the podcast.
Speaker 4: I was about a year into the podcast, and Anthony
Speaker 4: actually was a huge kind of catalyst.
Speaker 3: He was like, you have to open your books and
Speaker 3: start really really doing this.
Speaker 4: And I was like okay, and I lagged on it
Speaker 4: a little bit, and obviously I had all those imposter
Speaker 4: syndrome type things, and I finally opened my books people booked. Gosh,
Speaker 4: I'm having trouble remembering, like, what was my first paid reading.
Speaker 3: I think I was really sweaty.
Speaker 4: I think, if I remember correctly, I went through my
Speaker 4: pros of what I do to connect in and went
Speaker 4: for it. But yeah, the biggest thing I remember is
Speaker 4: being like really sweaty and nervous.
Speaker 2: Hayley, you describe yourself as a psychic medium. Do you
Speaker 2: differentiate between psychic ability and mediumship?
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely so for me, the psychic stuff is I'm
Speaker 4: I'm clicking into your energy the person sitting in front
Speaker 4: of me. I'm taking a peek into your aura, your
Speaker 4: energy fields and pulling things out of there. Mediumship for
Speaker 4: me is when I'm connecting with loved ones on the
Speaker 4: other side to bring you messages. Even guide work, I
Speaker 4: think is more on the side of mediumship, just because
Speaker 4: you're really tapping into an energy outside of the person.
Speaker 3: Sitting in front of you. So anything that I'm doing.
Speaker 4: If I'm connecting with a guide or a loved one,
Speaker 4: or maybe even your higher self on the other side,
Speaker 4: I think of that as mediumship, and then psychic would
Speaker 4: be like, maybe somebody is considering a path that they
Speaker 4: want to take, their seating a fork in the road,
Speaker 4: and we can look into your energy and see how
Speaker 4: your energy feels about either of those things. But yeah,
Speaker 4: psychic stuff is connecting in with that person in front
Speaker 4: of me.
Speaker 1: Mediumship connecting up.
Speaker 3: And through for the person sitting in front of me.
Speaker 2: I bet that's one of the most frequently they asked questions.
Speaker 2: We get people just want call that stuff together and
Speaker 2: it's not in our opinion either. So I'm scurence to
Speaker 2: hear your perspective.
Speaker 3: And I try to also be really during a reading.
Speaker 4: If I'm connecting with a loved one or a guide
Speaker 4: and I can tell that I've dropped into something more
Speaker 4: psychic where I'm just pulling off their energy, I do
Speaker 4: try to say to them this is me talk coming
Speaker 4: through psychic or talking to you psychically now instead of
Speaker 4: through a guide, because I think you can kind of
Speaker 4: tell a difference when you drop into that type of energy.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's hard to differentiate a little bit if you're
Speaker 4: really in a flow. But I feel like I can
Speaker 4: tell usually when something is coming being brought to me
Speaker 4: from their energy or is.
Speaker 3: Coming from a guide or a loved one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 1: I always wonder about that. If I'm connecting with their guide,
Speaker 1: I'm okay differentiating it's want to connect with their people.
Speaker 1: On the other side, then I'm like, well, wait a minute.
Speaker 1: If I'm getting information that you know, she's going to
Speaker 1: get a promotion by April from her dad, is that
Speaker 1: psychic or medium shift to me?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: So I feel like it can be conflicting and confusing,
Speaker 1: but you're right. Typically you can feel the energy shift
Speaker 1: where it's more hard to heart with psychic and the
Speaker 1: mediumship is just higher vibration, is I think the best
Speaker 1: way to describe it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, what do you think is the hardest thing about
Speaker 1: doing readings on zoom and the easiest thing? Do you
Speaker 1: think there's a difference, because I've heard from people who
Speaker 1: are doing full time readings now who still encounter people
Speaker 1: who believe you can't do an authentic reading online.
Speaker 4: How do you dispel that? I think for me, it's
Speaker 4: just been the experience of it, even practicing in classes.
Speaker 4: I think one of the things that really helped I
Speaker 4: don't know if I want to use a word proof,
Speaker 4: but helped me understand it was practicing in classes with
Speaker 4: people across the country from me, and we're able to
Speaker 4: just sit on the phone or even do it asynchronously
Speaker 4: and still able to hit on things that really resonated
Speaker 4: for them. And I think as you get further along
Speaker 4: in this work, energy just takes on a different meaning,
Speaker 4: or it takes on like you're able to understand that energy,
Speaker 4: Like the power of eight is something that fascinates me
Speaker 4: so much, and I think is a really good example
Speaker 4: of this. Sending energy to someone across the whole ocean
Speaker 4: or across the country or something like that, is can
Speaker 4: be real and tangible and can show different in their
Speaker 4: energy the person you're sending it to. So I think
Speaker 4: the experiences that I had, like I remember reading doing
Speaker 4: a practice reading it in a class and it was
Speaker 4: asynchronous and I was kind of just like typing over
Speaker 4: email what I was getting and a very specific like
Speaker 4: military jacket had come up, and the person emailed me
Speaker 4: back and was like, yeah, that's a jacket my father owned.
Speaker 3: He's passed now and I lost it for a while
Speaker 3: and I just found.
Speaker 4: The jacket, and I think those types of things were like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it does it, just like space and time are not
Speaker 4: maybe what maybe we experienced them a certain way, but
Speaker 4: there's a lot more going on there. And I think
Speaker 4: that's one of the most fascinating things that I would
Speaker 4: love to keep exploring in this work, because who knows
Speaker 4: how that works.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so so much that goes into that.
Speaker 3: But I understand.
Speaker 4: People's maybe like feeling that way because when you're in
Speaker 4: the presence of someone, I think we can really easily
Speaker 4: sense people's vibes of vibration and all of that. I
Speaker 4: actually did a reading. I think that it must have
Speaker 4: been in twenty twenty three or twenty four at this point,
Speaker 4: but I did a zoom reading where she never turned
Speaker 4: her camera on at all. It was just the microphone
Speaker 4: and I had my camera on and that was such
Speaker 4: a great and she I didn't mention it. I didn't
Speaker 4: ask her to turn her camera on, she didn't mention.
Speaker 3: That her camera was off. It's just how we did
Speaker 3: the reading. And I found that to.
Speaker 4: Be a really really interesting and helpful experience in like,
Speaker 4: you're never at that point. I'm never reading a facial
Speaker 4: expression because the camera's not on.
Speaker 3: There's nothing I can see. She might be rolling her
Speaker 3: eyes on the other side. I have got no clue.
Speaker 3: I just have to keep going and really trust spirit.
Speaker 3: And I think that one went pretty well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's something pure about that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: That's why my preference still is a phone reading that's
Speaker 1: in person, because I can't make those preconceived notions. You know,
Speaker 1: if someone comes in and they have a wedding ring
Speaker 1: hanging around a chain, I'm going to make subconsciously or
Speaker 1: consciously I'm going to make an inference about that. I
Speaker 1: just love the purity of just your voice in my voice,
Speaker 1: linking in together.
Speaker 2: There was a time when phone reading, well, there was
Speaker 2: face to face, and then phone readings were all we had.
Speaker 2: We didn't have this stuff right. And I live in
Speaker 2: this love hate relationship with technology, the whole thing with
Speaker 2: me in technology. And when I remind myself that everything
Speaker 2: is energy, that's all there is, I go, oh, bless
Speaker 2: this computer with its very own little crystal or its keyboard.
Speaker 2: When I started teaching on Zoom, I went, oh, my god,
Speaker 2: how will I ever because I like to look you
Speaker 2: in the eye if I'm teaching, I want to see
Speaker 2: your eyes and in zoom. Of course with the big
Speaker 2: group who we can always do that. But ended up
Speaker 2: being a gift in so many ways, Like you said,
Speaker 2: to connect us with people. I had folks who take
Speaker 2: my classes from your pay in other countries. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just great.
Speaker 1: Well, here's what I say. If you're coming to me
Speaker 1: because you believe I can lift and raise my vibrations
Speaker 1: to meet with a diseased person on the other side,
Speaker 1: but you don't believe that I can connect with your
Speaker 1: energy over zoom.
Speaker 3: Right, that's such a good point.
Speaker 4: That is such a good point, Like where's the point
Speaker 4: of disbelief? You can believe in this other side? And
Speaker 4: obviously we all do here and everybody listening probably does too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why not zoom? Why can't Why can't we? Yeah?
Speaker 1: When I started doing readings, I remember sitting in my
Speaker 1: office and decorated. I was so happy, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the best thing in the entire world. And
Speaker 1: it is, and it was, But I've learned so much.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to learn about people doing readings in
Speaker 1: ways that I could not have learned from just teaching
Speaker 1: in the classroom or working in an office. And I
Speaker 1: found that illuminating and difficult as well. And what I
Speaker 1: mean by that is clients would come to me and
Speaker 1: they wouldn't really want insight or even direction or help,
Speaker 1: or they wanted me to tell them what to do.
Speaker 1: That was really hard for me. Some of them wanted
Speaker 1: me to go against what I think is just a
Speaker 1: natural code of ethics and peek into their boyfriend's energy
Speaker 1: or their girlfriend's energy, or their partners.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I got disheartened at some points, and I'm just wondering
Speaker 1: if you went through that as well.
Speaker 4: Yes, I definitely struggle with or have struggled and probably
Speaker 4: will into the future of people.
Speaker 3: Or they really want to.
Speaker 4: Know a specific timeline when will this happen?
Speaker 3: What month? When will this be.
Speaker 4: Worked out in my life? And I find that difficult.
Speaker 4: I do find love readings a little difficult as well,
Speaker 4: especially if it's like when will this person love me?
Speaker 4: And I think my ego or like my personality is
Speaker 4: like who cares?
Speaker 3: Just who cares?
Speaker 1: That's not always to ask you a question, don't you
Speaker 1: have the answer right yes, or like you said, I
Speaker 1: just want to know exactly what to do.
Speaker 4: And what I'm more interested in the way that I
Speaker 4: like to read for people is presenting you the paths
Speaker 4: and we can look into if you make this decision,
Speaker 4: how will that feel? What will the energy look like
Speaker 4: of that decision? If you make this decision, how will
Speaker 4: that feel? What will the energy look like. I'm much
Speaker 4: more interested in helping guide people than just like tell
Speaker 4: them exactly what to do. And yeah, I think everybody
Speaker 4: who does this work is probably going to have people
Speaker 4: who book because they.
Speaker 3: Don't want to go see their therapists or they don't.
Speaker 4: Have one, and they just need to like talk to
Speaker 4: somebody and maybe get some insights. So like when I
Speaker 4: have readings like that where the person really wants to
Speaker 4: harp on some issues and like, go ahead, do that,
Speaker 4: what I try to do is open my energy enough
Speaker 4: where what they're saying can kind of be channeled up
Speaker 4: into from their guides or into this kind of psychic space,
Speaker 4: and then I kind of start to try to just
Speaker 4: kind of read on what they're saying, because some people
Speaker 4: will talk for almost the whole time, you know, and
Speaker 4: so I try to read on what they're saying and introjectileen,
Speaker 4: I can Okay, this is what that energy feels like.
Speaker 3: This is what that energy feels like. But yes, I
Speaker 3: will say I'm really interested.
Speaker 4: In reading for people who like to ask big, big
Speaker 4: questions or talk about maybe like their purpose or their
Speaker 4: paths and help guide instead of tell I guess if
Speaker 4: that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good description of how a reading
Speaker 1: should look. Is where it's showing you options and different
Speaker 1: paths you can take. And those questions are really hard.
Speaker 1: When is this going to happen? Well, if we're showing
Speaker 1: you that you have this block that you have to
Speaker 1: work on, and this challenge that you have to overcome,
Speaker 1: and this past hurt that you have to release before
Speaker 1: you can manifest love, I can't tell you that's going
Speaker 1: to be may second, because I don't know when you're
Speaker 1: going to work out those blocks to love. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: those questions can be frustrating, and that's where I think
Speaker 1: sometimes getting a reading is a teachable moment as well,
Speaker 1: because we that's our job, our job as the reader,
Speaker 1: we have to do a lot. We have to hold space,
Speaker 1: we have to listen to them, but we also have
Speaker 1: to remind them. How many times have I said, well,
Speaker 1: you know you're paying me for this hour. We only
Speaker 1: have twenty minutes left, so let me, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of interject here and give you what I'm getting. And
Speaker 1: I always feel bad doing that, because you're right, some
Speaker 1: of them just need to talk. So it's a it's
Speaker 1: a whole lot of stuff I think that intuitive readers
Speaker 1: do behind the scenes that they are rich person isn't
Speaker 1: aware of. It's like when we were traditional teachers dev
Speaker 1: and you're trying to teach the subject, but you're also
Speaker 1: trying to manage all the different energies in the classroom.
Speaker 1: That's a lot to juggle, and I think it's important
Speaker 1: that people respect that when they come for a reading.
Speaker 2: And you know, that whole issue of just tell me
Speaker 2: what to do and what time will this happen? At
Speaker 2: eleven oh five on May second, right, you get those
Speaker 2: kind of didactic questions that are not answerable by what
Speaker 2: we do, and they're not meant to be answered. Universal
Speaker 2: time is different than human time, and you're right, there
Speaker 2: are lots of innervening things that can pop up that
Speaker 2: shift things and energy flow around, and it's very difficult
Speaker 2: for folks who are so desperate for an answer when
Speaker 2: the answer is already within them. And boys, sometimes folks
Speaker 2: don't like hearing that, but rarely real yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean sometimes I don't even like hearing that in
Speaker 4: these times of like I just I really want a reading.
Speaker 3: I really want a reading.
Speaker 4: And obviously I have many lovely psychics and mediums in
Speaker 4: my life who I would absolutely pay to do a reading.
Speaker 4: I've got my reading wish list of people who I
Speaker 4: can't wait to get a reading from at some point.
Speaker 4: But in those times, I will say when I feel
Speaker 4: the most desperate for a reading, almost because I think
Speaker 4: we've all been in that energy before where you just
Speaker 4: kind of want to be told and I love a reading,
Speaker 4: I'll say I love a third party person being able
Speaker 4: to get into my energy and see it a little
Speaker 4: bit more objectively.
Speaker 3: I think that is really really.
Speaker 4: Important for any reader out there. So not against readings
Speaker 4: at all. I think they're great.
Speaker 3: And I love getting them.
Speaker 4: When I'm really desperate for a reading or when I
Speaker 4: have that energy, I really try to actually not book
Speaker 4: anything because just this is just me personally.
Speaker 3: I think going into a reading with.
Speaker 4: That kind of like desperate, desperate brit seeking energy can
Speaker 4: be a little bit of a like a friction for
Speaker 4: the reader doesn't mean the reading won't work. It's another
Speaker 4: form of friction maybe. And just as you said, Deb,
Speaker 4: I know the answer is inside of me.
Speaker 1: I know that.
Speaker 3: So it's about kind of just.
Speaker 4: Waiting, taking that breath and seeing if the answer wants
Speaker 4: to come forward and up on its own. So yeah,
Speaker 4: there's a balance I think between when do we get
Speaker 4: these readings and how our energy is feeling and discerning
Speaker 4: when those best times are.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 2: I did a reading for myself and it has some
Speaker 2: really bizarre cards in a very bizarre configuration. And then
Speaker 2: I thought, well, this is going to be an interesting year.
Speaker 2: Wonder what's up with this? So I journaled it, I
Speaker 2: did all this stuff I do, and then I called
Speaker 2: another reader and I said, I want to pay for
Speaker 2: a reading. I've done a reading, sal and I have
Speaker 2: some questions. I need to see what your tank on.
Speaker 2: It is most of the cards that I got in
Speaker 2: the rating. She got to and she was fascinating. It
Speaker 2: was absolutely validating for what I got and an exploration
Speaker 2: of how of what all of that might mean, not
Speaker 2: just for me, but there was some interesting universal energy
Speaker 2: information in the reading that wasn't for me personally, and
Speaker 2: I picked up on that, but I thought, now there's
Speaker 2: some egostistic stuff, Dad, get out of there. Right. She
Speaker 2: said it, and I didn't tell her a thing about
Speaker 2: my reading in advance, So that was wonderful to have
Speaker 2: another reader offer that validation and help clarify some things.
Speaker 1: So absolutely, I think readings are great for that validation,
Speaker 1: for holding up a mirror for us. And sometimes you
Speaker 1: go and you get something completely unexpected, like the woman
Speaker 1: who just spontaneously gave me a reading and said I
Speaker 1: needed reiki and I'd never heard of it, and that,
Speaker 1: you know, changed the trajectory of my path. So you
Speaker 1: never know what you're going to get in a reading,
Speaker 1: which I think is a wonderful, wonderful thing. I just
Speaker 1: think it's good for people who do this work to
Speaker 1: be able to share amongst each other some of the
Speaker 1: ups and downs of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, in addition to working full time doing a
Speaker 1: podcast and doing readings, can you talk to us about
Speaker 1: how you use your intuition on a daily level, Like
Speaker 1: what does it look like for you?
Speaker 4: Yes? I am really It's like one of my kind
Speaker 4: of core beliefs that just because you are like working
Speaker 4: on your psychic mediumship or energy worker or and anything
Speaker 4: that kind of involves the spiritual path that we're on.
Speaker 4: Just because you're working on those things doesn't mean necessarily
Speaker 4: that you have to like start a business around it.
Speaker 3: If we were all just really nice.
Speaker 4: And plugged into our intuition, I think the whole world
Speaker 4: would be a pretty different place. So I'm a huge
Speaker 4: advocate for working on our intuitive abilities and whatever that means,
Speaker 4: however that progresses, and being able to use that in
Speaker 4: this whatever you want to call it, real life, three
Speaker 4: D life, work, nine to five, family relationship, all that stuff.
Speaker 4: So for me, how that works is obviously I have
Speaker 4: my nine to five, you know, regular stuff, so it's
Speaker 4: going to work. And I do have some crystals on
Speaker 4: my desk that just kind of look like paper weights.
Speaker 3: I have a black.
Speaker 4: Tormaline in my office and I think an angelite will chunk,
Speaker 4: and I have those, as you know, they kind of
Speaker 4: just look like paper weights. I'll work with those a
Speaker 4: little bit, but mostly it's like about using my intuition
Speaker 4: to make decisions in my daily life that make sense
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 3: So I'm just using this as an example.
Speaker 1: It's not something that has.
Speaker 3: Happened to me lately. But like if you intuitively know that.
Speaker 4: The job that you're working has come to an end,
Speaker 4: or like you're ready to move on from that, you know,
Speaker 4: making those types of decision, it might take you a
Speaker 4: long like months, I will say, sometimes only here our intuition,
Speaker 4: it takes us a long time to actually act on it.
Speaker 3: And that's a okay.
Speaker 4: You know, there was a job that I was working
Speaker 4: years ago, but I could feel the end coming in
Speaker 4: my intuition. I could feel the kind of rumblings, the
Speaker 4: shifts of that, and it did take me a while
Speaker 4: to have the courage to be like I'm gonna go now,
Speaker 4: you know. But using your intuition for those types of decisions,
Speaker 4: maybe you want to find the love of your life
Speaker 4: and you're on a date. You shake this person's hand
Speaker 4: and you immediately know that it's a no. You know.
Speaker 4: Maybe you sit and you have dinner or a drink
Speaker 4: or whatever. But those types of things, I think are
Speaker 4: the crux of how we can use our intuition in
Speaker 4: our daily life and make decisions. So for me, it's
Speaker 4: like I walk into the office and maybe the vibes
Speaker 4: feel like a little off today, it's like, Okay, I know,
Speaker 4: maybe I'm just gonna be a little quieter and drink
Speaker 4: my water, have my tea and type in everything I
Speaker 4: need to be doing, you know, like reading the energy
Speaker 4: and not peeking too far into what's going on with
Speaker 4: my office mats and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But just check the vibe.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm leaving work and there's two roots I can
Speaker 4: take home. I just know I'm going to take this one.
Speaker 4: I'm going to stay on the highway a little bit longer.
Speaker 4: Those types of things. I think that's living an intuitive life.
Speaker 4: And it might not be like flashy and it's not
Speaker 4: always like the sexiest thing or whatever, but I think
Speaker 4: that's where no rubber meets the road con action.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just that that feeling of I'm connected to
Speaker 1: something better, deeper, more meaningful. Just the other day, I
Speaker 1: went to a grocery store that I normally don't go to.
Speaker 1: It's just like an intuitive feeling like go to this one.
Speaker 1: And I was like okay, And I bumped into a
Speaker 1: friend I hadn't seen in a long time, and she
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I really need to talk.
Speaker 1: She needed some intuitive help. And so that was like oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I get why I went here. I love that, and
Speaker 1: I love what we practice being our own psychic, you know,
Speaker 1: like actually listening to those hits and nudges ourselves. We
Speaker 1: also get a sense of the lightness and the sense
Speaker 1: of humor. I think that our team has with us
Speaker 1: when you were mentioning going on a date. Every time
Speaker 1: I do a reading for someone, if they ask me,
Speaker 1: is this the person for me? If I hear you
Speaker 1: two still haven't found what I'm looking for, that's my
Speaker 1: sign that no, I don't think this is your person.
Speaker 1: So it was like right after the pandemic and the
Speaker 1: world started opening back up again, and a couple of
Speaker 1: friends set me up unknowingly with this man like we're
Speaker 1: just like, hey, we're all coming here, and then said, aah,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting next to oh and also divorced single man.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It was just like come on, people. But he was very,
Speaker 1: very nice, and we got along and there was nothing
Speaker 1: to say no to a second date. But I just
Speaker 1: didn't feel anything. But you know, good on paper, but
Speaker 1: I felt nothing. And I'm walking back to my car
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know, I don't you know.
Speaker 1: My friend's texting me, he wants your number? What do
Speaker 1: I do? And I'm like, I don't know. I get
Speaker 1: in my car and I turn heard it on and
Speaker 1: I never listened to my radio. I'm always listening to
Speaker 1: stuff on Spotify or what have you. My radio is
Speaker 1: on and it's playing. Still haven't found what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1: All thought that is that was better than if I
Speaker 1: had heard a voice or they were just talking to me.
Speaker 1: I just love the way all of that works. It's
Speaker 1: magical and it's mysterious, and it makes me feel not
Speaker 1: even connected, but just LinkedIn to my real team.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I get sometimes when we're
Speaker 2: talking about those folks who want those answers and whatnot,
Speaker 2: I remind them of the scene from the Wizard of
Speaker 2: Us where what does the witch ride across the sky?
Speaker 2: Surrender Dorothy right, And that's what we have to do.
Speaker 2: We have to surrender to the knowing. And I use
Speaker 2: that in kind of a humorous way when I remind
Speaker 2: people that if you will just show out and pay attention,
Speaker 2: you got those answers within you. You do have that
Speaker 2: connection yourself into your team.
Speaker 4: And Samantha say, yeah, I love using music for like
Speaker 4: divination purposes like that. Even in high school, I would
Speaker 4: scroll through my iTunes list of like songs back when
Speaker 4: you had to pay like ninety nine cents for a song. Okay,
Speaker 4: I know I'm dating myself a little bit, but I'd
Speaker 4: scroll up and down and up and down, and I
Speaker 4: would say, the next song I click on that comes up,
Speaker 4: it means something.
Speaker 3: A few years ago again, I'm kind of talking about
Speaker 3: that job where I knew things were on their way out.
Speaker 4: I was driving to event, an event for that work
Speaker 4: I had been having.
Speaker 3: It was just a mess, a mess, and I was
Speaker 3: alone in my car.
Speaker 4: I had my Spotify on and I was like, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do some musical divination and I was like, guides,
Speaker 4: just give me a song, like, give me some sign
Speaker 4: in a song. I just I need to hear from
Speaker 4: you right now. And this is I just find this
Speaker 4: so funny. So I clicked the forward button on my
Speaker 4: steering wheel and the song Growing Pains by Alessia Korra
Speaker 4: came on. I don't know if you're familiar, but in
Speaker 4: the beginning of that song, it has a recording of
Speaker 4: a man saying you're on your own kid, and I
Speaker 4: was like, you are so rude, but I laughed so
Speaker 4: hard and it felt like and I know, Samath and
Speaker 4: you kind of talk about this like your guides will
Speaker 4: step back sometimes so that you can make your decisions.
Speaker 4: And that really felt like that kind of time, but
Speaker 4: in a very funny way that they.
Speaker 3: Wanted to deliver that message for me. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 3: nice way.
Speaker 1: That's like a funny ha ha. I wish I could
Speaker 1: help you, but I can't right now. I like that. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: my guide you just walks away, like figure it out, bitch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is not true in my opinion, saman.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry when you're going through those difficult times in
Speaker 1: your life, does it not feel that way?
Speaker 2: It does feel right me. And you know what I
Speaker 2: have to remind myself may not be true for you,
Speaker 2: but I have to say to be it is not
Speaker 2: my guide who has stepped away?
Speaker 1: Is me says that all the time?
Speaker 3: People I do. I know that one well from deb
Speaker 3: and sometimes I think about that.
Speaker 4: For me, I'm like, oh, maybe I just need to
Speaker 4: like chat with them a little more, ask them to
Speaker 4: be here a little bit more. But yeah, sometimes it
Speaker 4: does feel like radio silence a little bit. So I
Speaker 4: see both sides.
Speaker 1: I know I do too, And I'm not picking on you,
Speaker 1: deb I remember the first time we told me that,
Speaker 1: and I was so mad at you, and I was
Speaker 1: mad at you because I knew you were right. And
Speaker 1: I think sometimes when we do get in those really
Speaker 1: really stressful oh my gosh, I have a health crisis,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, my relationship is falling for oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I have to leave my career, those moments, we do
Speaker 1: want our guide to step in, just like we were
Speaker 1: saying how we want our clients want us to step
Speaker 1: in and tell us everything to do. And it's usually
Speaker 1: in those moments that I'm not making time to meditate.
Speaker 1: I'm not making time to really do my breathing exercises
Speaker 1: or my chakra cleansing. So you're right, this is what
Speaker 1: I'm doing.
Speaker 2: And when I get in that lice, I have a
Speaker 2: particular crystal that is both my meditation crystal, one of
Speaker 2: my meditation crystals, and my connection to my guide rock
Speaker 2: and I think, oh, they have funny Williams. The last
Speaker 2: time you cleaned that rock and used it, okay, And
Speaker 2: so it has to be that reminder of go wash
Speaker 2: the rock, or clean the rock, or spend some time
Speaker 2: with it and guess what. Who shows up it's like
Speaker 2: and looks at me and says, well, where are you then?
Speaker 1: Exactly do you have a psychic tool that you rely on,
Speaker 1: like crystals or toro or.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely love crystals as a support. One of
Speaker 4: my favorites is laboratory. Right's just kind of one of
Speaker 4: my overall favorite kind of like psychic crystals. I have
Speaker 4: a few all over the place. So yeah, I bought
Speaker 4: lots of crystals that I use. I have a black
Speaker 4: tormaline ring.
Speaker 3: That I wear.
Speaker 4: I like to wear it to work and before I
Speaker 4: put it on a whisper and say, please protect my
Speaker 4: energy from.
Speaker 3: These people in the office. All great people, but you
Speaker 3: know how it is. Taro was the first.
Speaker 4: Tool that I picked up when I just kind of
Speaker 4: started my development and and yeah, I know, you're like
Speaker 4: the Tarot queen.
Speaker 3: It didn't quite resonate for me. So I did some
Speaker 3: practice readings with my sisters and stuff.
Speaker 4: And then I picked up a random oracle deck from
Speaker 4: a shop and it's a very open ended deck. It
Speaker 4: doesn't even have a book or anything, and that has
Speaker 4: been like one of my favorite oracle decks, especially ones
Speaker 4: that are a little bit more open ended, feel like
Speaker 4: such a great jumping off point for spirit connections. And
Speaker 4: so it's the it's the Inquire Within Oracle deck, okay,
Speaker 4: and I just find it to be such a fantastic deck.
Speaker 3: I really love it, and.
Speaker 4: It doesn't come with a book, which I've actually kind
Speaker 4: of loved and beautiful. It's wonderful and that has really
Speaker 4: been So that's what I use when I do like
Speaker 4: my mini readings, my guide and higher self connection readings,
Speaker 4: when I'm in a mediumship or some get reading, like
Speaker 4: a longer thirty or forty five minute reading. I really
Speaker 4: enjoy just being my own tool or my own channel.
Speaker 2: And I understand not connecting to teruro. I get that
Speaker 2: there are many tools, so I don't connect with you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to keep finding your own. So tell
Speaker 1: us about your podcast and what people can expect to
Speaker 1: find there and what your hope is as you grow this. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I've been doing Opening the Door for about three years,
Speaker 4: so it's been such.
Speaker 3: A I really really love it so much. So what
Speaker 3: the kind of format that.
Speaker 4: You'll see over there is. Sometimes I'll do a solo
Speaker 4: episode here and there, but I interview other psychics and
Speaker 4: mediums about their spiritual journey, about their work. And my
Speaker 4: goal with the podcast is really that it's one a
Speaker 4: place where you can come and learn about all sorts
Speaker 4: of types of spirituality or.
Speaker 3: Just the array of what you can explore within.
Speaker 4: Spirituality there from lots of different people, lots of different perspectives,
Speaker 4: and I really like the crux.
Speaker 3: Of it is that I want it to be a
Speaker 3: learning podcast.
Speaker 4: I always want you to walk away with like one
Speaker 4: kind of tool or thing that you can do after
Speaker 4: you listen. So I love it to be a learning
Speaker 4: podcast for people. By the time this comes out, I'll
Speaker 4: probably be on my little Winter Hibernation. But there's like
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty one episodes that you can all
Speaker 4: go through and see what's there for you.
Speaker 3: And then Anthony and I.
Speaker 4: And we've I think I mentioned Anthony earlier and while
Speaker 4: we were recording, Yeah, started out Andy Lights.
Speaker 1: He's great. If everyone please check out the interview I
Speaker 1: did with him on Enlightened im Paths. It's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite interviews, and I think I.
Speaker 3: Love that one too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just got such a beautiful energy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, so him and I started. He was actually
Speaker 4: my very first interview on Opening the Door.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's how we.
Speaker 4: I just like randomly found him on Instagram and was like,
Speaker 4: should interview this guy? And we have just been you know,
Speaker 4: I'm like, he's my spiritual best friend. We live in
Speaker 4: different states, but we talk all the time. So we
Speaker 4: started a podcast recently. It's a once a month podcast.
Speaker 4: It comes out around the full moon, called the Psychic
Speaker 4: Path Podcast.
Speaker 3: And we just get really chatty over there.
Speaker 4: We talk about topics, we take listener questions, and yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just so beyond fun.
Speaker 1: I chemistry between you guys as well, it's a really
Speaker 1: really good connection. I wanted to ask Anthony, but I'll
Speaker 1: ask you too. What do you guys think about Kim
Speaker 1: Kardashi and throwing psychics under the rug? Did you guys
Speaker 1: see this?
Speaker 3: No? I have not seen that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So she, as you know, she's doing the apprenticeship
Speaker 1: instead of law school, and she's taken the bar and
Speaker 1: she didn't pass, which is yes, really common. It's super
Speaker 1: hard to pass the California bar. But she did really
Speaker 1: she said that her family psychics told her she would pass. Well, oh,
Speaker 1: come on, we can't blame psychics for everything, you know,
Speaker 1: I know that's so classic.
Speaker 3: My psychic said, yeah, this would happen. I think this is.
Speaker 4: Actually a really good way to the or free will
Speaker 4: and how what we're told like really impacts us, right,
Speaker 4: especially from a psychic. So if you're thinking about doing
Speaker 4: this work, or you are doing this work, like what
Speaker 4: you say, people will.
Speaker 3: Listen to you.
Speaker 4: It takes a lot of integrity to do this work
Speaker 4: because you have to know that. And the other thing
Speaker 4: I will say is, if you hear you're going to pass,
Speaker 4: maybe you're going to study less because you're like, well,
Speaker 4: I'm going to pass.
Speaker 3: I know that's my future. When that psychic maybe or
Speaker 3: and maybe Kim didn't listen, so I don't know what
Speaker 3: the psychic said.
Speaker 4: But there's branch after branch after branch of possible outcomes,
Speaker 4: and if you choose to study less, you're probably stepping
Speaker 4: into the possible outcome of not passing. But since you
Speaker 4: heard it from your psychic, you think you're going to pass.
Speaker 1: There's this mytho, so.
Speaker 3: You will and divine destiny or whatever you want to
Speaker 3: call it.
Speaker 4: And that's really something I've been thinking about a lot
Speaker 4: in the past year, and that can be really hard.
Speaker 2: I tell that to my students all the time. You
Speaker 2: must really be careful, and you're exactly right the person
Speaker 2: who is getting the reading. All those branches are there
Speaker 2: and there's not ever anything really definitive.
Speaker 1: In many ways, the whole predictive aspect is very, very nuanced,
Speaker 1: and I do wish that were better understood than it is,
Speaker 1: because I think that the information we provide in readings
Speaker 1: is illuminating, is helpful, does offer people options and helps
Speaker 1: them remember that they have choices, but also people remember
Speaker 1: what they want to hear as well, and that can
Speaker 1: get really, really tricky. I remember I had someone come
Speaker 1: to me and asked if the marriage is going to survive.
Speaker 1: I always have a hard time answering that question because
Speaker 1: of the ethics, but I picked up on one of
Speaker 1: the partners had an addiction issue, and I said, if
Speaker 1: this can be addressed and healed, I think this marriage
Speaker 1: will go the long haul. Well that did not happen,
Speaker 1: and the divorce happened, and the person said to me,
Speaker 1: you were wrong. We ended up getting divorced, and I
Speaker 1: was like, was it wrong? Because I said, if this
Speaker 1: was addressed, then But people just they just hear the
Speaker 1: outcome of what they want to hear yep, I agree,
Speaker 1: all right, So Hayley, tell us about your meditation work
Speaker 1: and wat your offer with that, and then tell folks
Speaker 1: how they can find you.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, so, I think you're probably referring to maybe my
Speaker 4: digital download meditations.
Speaker 3: I have two that I recorded.
Speaker 4: I think meditation, if you're listening to this podcast, you
Speaker 4: won't be surprised, is a really important part. However you
Speaker 4: want to practice. Meditation is such an important part of
Speaker 4: being able to hear your intuition. So one of my
Speaker 4: favorite meditations that I just started doing on my own
Speaker 4: and then decided to record for people to be able
Speaker 4: to download is basking in the Universe's energy. I feel
Speaker 4: this can be a really helpful meditation for anybody who
Speaker 4: just wants to let go maybe of their own energy
Speaker 4: for a little bit and bask in the universe's loving energy.
Speaker 4: Maybe get you into the flow if you're trying to
Speaker 4: manifest something, or if you're just trying to get on
Speaker 4: a little bit more aligned. I guess so I usually
Speaker 4: do this when I just need to like kind of
Speaker 4: reset my energy or feel more aligned. So that's my
Speaker 4: basking in the universe's energy. I have a basking worthiness
Speaker 4: energy as well, just because I think that's a fun
Speaker 4: thing to do. But yeah, I really think it's an
Speaker 4: important and fun to tap into that kind of bigger energy.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit like sitting in the power, but
Speaker 3: a little bit different as well.
Speaker 4: So you're going to use your clairvoyance, your third eye
Speaker 4: to get yourself into that space fee like a ten
Speaker 4: to twelve minute meditation and can just be really really
Speaker 4: helpful for you. As I said, when this interview comes out,
Speaker 4: I'm going to be on my little kind of hibernation time.
Speaker 4: I am taking a little bit of an extended break
Speaker 4: from opening the door because I have a lot to explore.
Speaker 4: I'm really feeling this call to go deeper within my
Speaker 4: personal practice and grow my own spiritual work in a
Speaker 4: way that I'm not sure what's about to happen. So
Speaker 4: I am taking a little bit of time to step
Speaker 4: back from that. But I offer higher self mini readings,
Speaker 4: guide mini readings. I love connecting with people's guides. It's
Speaker 4: just something that I've found is so fun for me.
Speaker 4: And guidework was like one of the first things that
Speaker 4: I started working on, which is just again one of
Speaker 4: my favorite things.
Speaker 3: So I have those and I do have zoom readings, and.
Speaker 4: I have about one hundred and sixty one episodes for
Speaker 4: you to scroll through of Opening the Door, which you
Speaker 4: can find on Apple and Spotify. My website is Opening
Speaker 4: Thedoor podcast dot com.
Speaker 3: Sign up for my email list. I don't bother you often.
Speaker 3: You can find me on Instagram, Opening the.
Speaker 4: Door podcast and the Psychicpath podcast, which you can also
Speaker 4: find on Spotify and Apple.
Speaker 3: I think I covered it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's fantastic. Thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 1: This has been great. I just I love your energy
Speaker 1: and talking to you, and I really hope people check
Speaker 1: out your podcast because you and Anthony and hipops On
Speaker 1: and all of your guests have so much to say
Speaker 1: that I think is incredibly helpful so that we can
Speaker 1: all feel that we have this big, big community of
Speaker 1: like minded thinkers.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I appreciate so much.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Hailey, Thank you guys.
Speaker 4: Everyone.
Speaker 1: Make time to meditate, I think is the lesson from
Speaker 1: this episode this week. Have a beautiful, happy week, Remember
Speaker 1: that we are so grateful for you, and as always,
Speaker 1: be the light for yourself and others. Hey Carrie, everyone,
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