Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, welcome back to Mountain Murders sometime this week.
Speaker 1: I'm Heather and I'm Dylan. Hello, Dylan, Hey girl, how
Speaker 1: are you? My head is spinning from all the news
Speaker 1: that's flooding into it this morning. Like there's so much
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 2: There is so much going on this week, Dylan, and
Speaker 2: that is why we are calling this episode perverts on Parade.
Speaker 1: Oh oh God.
Speaker 2: For some reason, summer seems to bring out the weirdos.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking my kids to that parade.
Speaker 2: Well, some people will refuse. They're like, oh, look a
Speaker 2: man pissing in another man's mouth. My children should be
Speaker 2: exposed to this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, cool.
Speaker 2: Perverts on Parade. Yes, we have a lot going on.
Speaker 2: Speaking of perverts. O.
Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham died today. Well he did apparently of a
Speaker 1: brief sudden illness aka but stuff. Yeah, I mean maybe
Speaker 1: I mean that. No one's said it wasn't but stuff.
Speaker 2: Lindsay Graham. I'm telling y'all he is a closeted freak
Speaker 2: with a bloodlust. He wants us to bomb children. I
Speaker 2: do think, well, he does butt stuff.
Speaker 1: I do think he is I think he's a homosexual man.
Speaker 2: I do lady g I think he is the news
Speaker 2: broke some years ago, and I don't care if he's
Speaker 2: a gay man.
Speaker 1: No, I don't. Well, I care more if you never
Speaker 1: admit want to like be your true authentic self.
Speaker 2: Well that's I guess That's where I'm at with Lindsay
Speaker 2: Graham is you know, he's done some shitty things in
Speaker 2: my opinion as an elected official. I'm not really sure
Speaker 2: how this man continues to be elected in South Carolina
Speaker 2: kind of blows my mind. I definitely don't like his
Speaker 2: attitude on what is happening right now in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: He definitely supports Israel and does not see a problem
Speaker 2: with genocide. He actually champions it. He wants children to
Speaker 2: be murdered. He gets I don't understand that part. I
Speaker 2: guess we shouldn't get into all that political nonsense.
Speaker 1: Now he has a gleam in his eye when he
Speaker 1: talks about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds disturbing. And on top of it, you
Speaker 2: know he's conservative, but also I think is a closeted
Speaker 2: homosexual and be a freak, Lindsay. If you're a freak,
Speaker 2: your freak flag fly. But I guess it's like the
Speaker 2: hypocrisy right always gets me.
Speaker 1: Well, it pisses me off, especially when you're in a
Speaker 1: position like that. And my thing is, even before I
Speaker 1: come to reside in this upstate or in South Carolina,
Speaker 1: every time I saw Lindsey Graham and the news on
Speaker 1: the TV anywhere, the words what's best for South Carolina
Speaker 1: never ever came out of his mouth. It was always
Speaker 1: some shit about some other policy that has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with South Carolina or making South Carolina better for
Speaker 1: the people who live here.
Speaker 2: He wants to have butt sex with foreign policy. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's it. Care if he wants to have butt sex.
Speaker 2: A lot of people have butt sex. They like it,
Speaker 2: they get up in it, and they really love it,
Speaker 2: and that is great. Some of our listeners might like
Speaker 2: butt stuff. More power to you, Okay, But Lindsey, I believe,
Speaker 2: in my heart of heart stilling that he died doing
Speaker 2: butt stuff and there might have been substances evolved. That's
Speaker 2: all I'm going to say now.
Speaker 1: I think Well, as one of our Discord fan pointed out,
Speaker 1: obviously they're said they're hinting at maybe a heart attack
Speaker 1: or do this or that. But something just seems off
Speaker 1: to me about just to turn the phrase like if
Speaker 1: it's a heart attack, while we say a we think
Speaker 1: he died of a heart attack, but we'll have to
Speaker 1: wait till the autopsy, all right, But which is usually
Speaker 1: how they word stuff like that. But the phrase brief
Speaker 1: sudden illness is just a very strange string of words
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Someone hit that vagus nerve while he was doing butt stuff.
Speaker 2: Homeboy had a heart art attack. He was probably all
Speaker 2: hopped up on something partying. I'm telling you, I think
Speaker 2: Lindsay's a freak.
Speaker 1: Allegedly. We don't know any of this to be true.
Speaker 2: And what was the thing a while back where he
Speaker 2: was at like Disney World by himself, but he was
Speaker 2: wearing like business casual at Disney, Like who goes to
Speaker 2: Disney wearing like a tie? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess Lindsay Graham did very strange. Okay.
Speaker 2: At the same time, Lindsey Graham bashing for Today.
Speaker 1: At the same time, my heart felt condolences to his
Speaker 1: friends and family because there are people that liked him
Speaker 1: seventy one and I hate that they're having to deal
Speaker 1: with this. You know, it's not the exit. He wanted
Speaker 1: to make the exit. The exit.
Speaker 2: Well, we definitely know Lindsay didn't have an exit only
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say that.
Speaker 1: Right, Look, yeah, well are you going to call this episode?
Speaker 1: But stuff?
Speaker 2: No, it's perverts on parade. That's why we had to
Speaker 2: talk about Lindsay at the top of the top of
Speaker 2: the charts here, Bud all right speaking of perverts and
Speaker 2: just fucked up shit, didn't. We have got to discuss
Speaker 2: this because it has blown my mind. The more I
Speaker 2: read about this case that is unfolding in Ohio, the
Speaker 2: more my brain just starts to kind of melt and
Speaker 2: I cannot wrap my head around it. Who are these people?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Why is this happening? What the fuck is going on
Speaker 2: in the world.
Speaker 1: I briefly saw that when this headline broke, but I
Speaker 1: never really had a chance to dig into it. And
Speaker 1: yesterday you were just telling me everything you told me
Speaker 1: about this case. I mean, it just doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: even sound like it could be real. A story has.
Speaker 2: Broken about an Ohio family. And when I say family,
Speaker 2: it's a young like a younger couple, Gary Siders Junior
Speaker 2: and his wife Elizabeth, and then Gary's.
Speaker 1: Parents who are obviously elderly. Okay, they were.
Speaker 2: Living in a home with sixteen children that have been
Speaker 2: described as quote A most feral. These children were living
Speaker 2: in a feces infested home. And this all unfolded because
Speaker 2: Gary Saters Junior, thirty six, began exposing himself to people
Speaker 2: outside the Ohio hellhole last month in May. At least,
Speaker 2: I say, last month, we're in July. Where's my braide?
Speaker 1: In May?
Speaker 2: So two months ago, I apologize. Monday's just run together.
Speaker 2: I'm still in the month of June.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want even.
Speaker 2: Though the fourth of July just happened. Now, okay, this
Speaker 2: dude is waving his wider at people.
Speaker 1: Back in May.
Speaker 2: At least four times he flashed his private parts on
Speaker 2: the twenty third, the twenty seventh, the twenty ninth, and
Speaker 2: the thirty first, According to these court documents, That criminal
Speaker 2: complaint was filed on June thirtieth, the same day that
Speaker 2: authorities executed a search warrant that exposed the deplorable Squalor
Speaker 2: that he, his wife, his parents were living and that
Speaker 2: they allegedly kept the children in sixteen children. Now, authorities
Speaker 2: had no idea that the sixteen almost feral kids were
Speaker 2: in the Vinton County, Ohio home when they arrived to
Speaker 2: serve ciders with this warrant for his arrest. Dylan, the
Speaker 2: conditions of this home I just cannot even believe. So
Speaker 2: the kids were kept isolated in a twelve by twelve
Speaker 2: foot room that was littered with human waste and other garbage.
Speaker 2: Some of the children couldn't even speak, according to Ohio
Speaker 2: Attorney General Andy Wilson, So.
Speaker 1: These are sixteen victims being basically tortured on the daily basis,
Speaker 1: being held captive, if you will, in a twelve by
Speaker 1: twelve room that alone is really hard to even contemplate.
Speaker 2: They looked almost like feral animals, it has been described.
Speaker 2: And when we're talking about like reading, writing, and education,
Speaker 2: there's this whole other level of expectations here because these kids,
Speaker 2: including the eighteen year old, can't even spell her name.
Speaker 2: Some of them cannot speak or do not speak.
Speaker 1: So that's one thing we were wondering, and it certainly
Speaker 1: sounds like these children have been kept outside of the
Speaker 1: system completely, possibly even birth at home, because you have
Speaker 1: to imagine that if you have baby after baby in
Speaker 1: a hospital and then once you know, have the birth certificate,
Speaker 1: there's you know, you have an expectation of when they
Speaker 1: get a certain age, they have to be going to school,
Speaker 1: they have to come to doctor's appointments, they need immunizations
Speaker 1: and things like that. And if a kid just falls
Speaker 1: off a map, you would expect that someone would look
Speaker 1: for them in some capacity.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, but on the other like the other side
Speaker 2: of that, on the other token here, I don't know
Speaker 2: if that would necessarily be true because these people were
Speaker 2: allowed to just slide on through the system because the
Speaker 2: system was not aware. It seems that there were sixteen
Speaker 2: children in this home, So just very strange. Dylan so Siders,
Speaker 2: his wife Elizabeth, who's thirty three, and his parents, Gary
Speaker 2: Senior seventy three and Christina sixty six, were arrested and
Speaker 2: faced multiple charges of endangering children. Gary Siders Junior was
Speaker 2: eighteen years old and had only finished ninth grade when
Speaker 2: he married Elizabeth back in two thousand and eight. She
Speaker 2: was fifteen at the time. And this is according to
Speaker 2: records in Mason County, West Virginia. Y'all, the Siders family
Speaker 2: is not doing West Virginia many favors here. You're just
Speaker 2: perpetuating stereotypes. And I don't like that.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't like that, but we all know that
Speaker 1: West Virginia is a great place and have many, many
Speaker 1: great people there.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so don't let these people soil your idea
Speaker 2: of a beautiful state.
Speaker 1: But we do know on the national stage that's gonna
Speaker 1: be snickered at. They're gonna make the incest jokes they've
Speaker 1: always done about Mountain fog. They took her baby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna take her baby and the taco bell drive
Speaker 1: through a pretty tootys iris if you know, you know,
Speaker 1: But yeah, fuck that. We know. West Virginia rocks, and
Speaker 1: it's beautiful and it's full of very smart people who
Speaker 1: can indeed spell their names.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's shout out to Lisa. They're now eighteen year
Speaker 2: old was born two months after the marriage. Children age sixteen, fifteen, fourteen, thirteen, eleven, ten, eight,
Speaker 2: six five, along with four year old twins, two year
Speaker 2: old twins, and one year old twins were found in
Speaker 2: the squalid home. And remember there was an eighteen year
Speaker 2: old as well. Seven of the children were hospitalized in
Speaker 2: the Columbus area, including two who were taken to trauma centers.
Speaker 2: One of those children was listed in critical condition and
Speaker 2: had to be intubated.
Speaker 1: My God, which which is in this Basically, they're breathing
Speaker 1: for that's a tube down your throat so they can
Speaker 1: breathe for you.
Speaker 2: Right, you are a lovely medical professional. Thank you for
Speaker 2: explaining that to us.
Speaker 1: Dylan and I did not realize it because I could not,
Speaker 1: for the life of me, figure out how we got
Speaker 1: to sixteen kids given the age of the parents involved
Speaker 1: three sets of twins.
Speaker 2: What in the hell she'd been marked in them baby
Speaker 2: since she was fifteen?
Speaker 1: Now this is pitiful.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not really sure what this woman's story,
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Cider's story is. Her attorney has come out and said,
Speaker 2: you know, she is not an evil person.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is just some backwoods ignorance
Speaker 1: or what.
Speaker 2: But witnesses who've interacted with the couple, Old Junior and
Speaker 2: his wife Elizabeth, have said she was like a very meek,
Speaker 2: mild you know, a stare at the ground, didn't make
Speaker 2: eye contact, wouldn't speak. It was almost as if she
Speaker 2: was like not allowed.
Speaker 1: Sounds like she possibly could be a victim in this
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: Well. She yeah, like maybe she grew up in a
Speaker 2: feral home as well. I don't know, but all four
Speaker 2: suspects face up to sixteen counts of child endangerment. They
Speaker 2: are on three hundred thousand bonds each and could spend
Speaker 2: a maximum sentence of up to one hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: two years in prison if they are found guilty. It
Speaker 2: is unclear whether Siers and his wife are the parents
Speaker 2: of all sixteen children at this point, but her attorney
Speaker 2: believes she is the biological mother of all of them.
Speaker 2: They are doing court July twenty third. Oh, I'm sorry, senior.
Speaker 2: Senior Junior is doing court on the twenty third for
Speaker 2: his public indecency charges. So, guys a pervert. He has
Speaker 2: all these children that he has kept in this garbage.
Speaker 1: Jump of a home, basically locked away in.
Speaker 2: A cell, horrible conditions. These children are like prisoners. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is honestly, we've been making light of it, but
Speaker 2: this is one of the most terrific things I've heard
Speaker 2: in a minute. And it's really like I've been deeply
Speaker 2: haunted by it, and the more information that comes out,
Speaker 2: I just can't It's like I just can't even And
Speaker 2: I was telling you yesterday like I couldn't stop thinking
Speaker 2: about the story and how horrible this is. Children do
Speaker 2: not deserve that. No one deserves us.
Speaker 1: No one deserves this. And when you get into their
Speaker 1: borderline feral humans, which I've dug into that stories of
Speaker 1: that nature before, there's some very famous ones out of
Speaker 1: Romania and various other places around the world. So what
Speaker 1: will happen in this case, I do believe is psychologists
Speaker 1: just from a pure clinical you know, just a further
Speaker 1: human knowledge about how we learn about stimulus nurture versus nature.
Speaker 1: We'll want to study and in the end help these children,
Speaker 1: you know, develop to more capable adults. They're going, They're going, yeah,
Speaker 1: because this is just this is this type of thing
Speaker 1: that just never happens to humans, right, You're not kept
Speaker 1: like this from birth.
Speaker 2: Not typically, not typically, and it's very atypical abnormal situation.
Speaker 2: Not that it has not, I mean you've mentioned there
Speaker 2: have been other cases of this time. It's very rare,
Speaker 2: but it has happened in the past, I guess just
Speaker 2: in modern and when I say modern, I'm thinking the
Speaker 2: last ten fifteen years, we haven't really heard of these
Speaker 2: kinds of stories. It's just absolutely heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: The only good part is maybe just maybe these children's
Speaker 1: not mare is over, yes, and that they can get
Speaker 1: on the road to recovery and get the help that
Speaker 1: they desperately need and probably every single aspect.
Speaker 2: Of their life, and maybe Gary Junior will stop waving
Speaker 2: his dick at people.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean just that type of that's devent behavior.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest of public displays like that, peeping all
Speaker 1: that is very deviant. I think it always leads to
Speaker 1: more dark, dangerous, terrible things. Well, yes, we don't know
Speaker 1: what's happened to these children. That was my point. It
Speaker 1: makes you wander just given the living conditions. I mean
Speaker 1: that right there alone is abuse, obviously physical abuse, emotional abuse.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you could imagine they're malnourished.
Speaker 2: These children have not been properly fed. They've been kept
Speaker 2: in this room. I'm sure they have a million vitamin deficiencies.
Speaker 2: You can't live in a twelve by twelve room with
Speaker 2: fifteen other people. No, no, I mean no sanitary conditions
Speaker 2: being met. It's very unhealthy. It sounds like there's four,
Speaker 2: maybe five bedrooms in this home.
Speaker 1: One bathroom.
Speaker 2: I'm probably just going down on a limb here, guessing
Speaker 2: it maybe doesn't even work. Who knows, Maybe that's why
Speaker 2: they're shitting the floor. These kids are not outside. They're
Speaker 2: not getting exposed to sunlight, daylight, they have interactions with
Speaker 2: no one outside of the home. No, and there's they've
Speaker 2: never been exposed to the outside world.
Speaker 1: There's stories of members of this household were known to
Speaker 1: come into like a dollar store, a Dollar General store.
Speaker 1: Now you saw this like on social media? Is that correct?
Speaker 1: And what they now? They were known to come in
Speaker 1: right before closed.
Speaker 2: Now this is witnesses.
Speaker 1: This is witnesses accounts, people who knew them in the community.
Speaker 1: They were known to come in right before clothes nine
Speaker 1: thirty nine forty five before it closes at ten, to
Speaker 1: a place like the Dollar General. Maybe it was the
Speaker 1: Dollar General. And what they would purchase was kind of odd,
Speaker 1: which is what made it stick out for people is
Speaker 1: they would buy multiple bottles of vegetable oil all the time,
Speaker 1: and they're just like, hey, what are you doing with
Speaker 1: all this vegetable because hey, I get one bottle of it,
Speaker 1: you know, lasts of minute in my house depends on
Speaker 1: what you use it for. And they would do this
Speaker 1: on a regular basis, mostly just vegetable.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry when you said that, I just I kept
Speaker 2: thinking Lindsey Graham does but stuff with it Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1: All right, diddy, it's not the pink loach or what
Speaker 1: was it, baby ol. So what people came to believe
Speaker 1: this is all This is a very calorie dnse. Surprisingly,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize this calorie dentse shelf stable food item
Speaker 1: that can be used to just get calories into a
Speaker 1: person's body. It's actually used in some organizations worldwide where
Speaker 1: they're fighting malnutrition and things like that, and you know,
Speaker 1: some whatever area of the world. It's actually used to
Speaker 1: get a lot of calories into someone quickly. You take
Speaker 1: it and mix it with some food item to really danse,
Speaker 1: make it calorie dentse, to make it, you know, get
Speaker 1: in and you know, lots of calories in quickly, and
Speaker 1: it's cheap, it's easy, it's easy to ship. So possibly
Speaker 1: we don't know it to be true. But of course
Speaker 1: I guess you could figure out. What I'm getting at
Speaker 1: is maybe they were just using this vegetable to keep
Speaker 1: these kids alive without actually giving them real food.
Speaker 2: But here's my nat fucking I mean, well, no, that's
Speaker 2: I don't even want to think about that. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: here's my thing, Dylan. Now, I've seen photos of this
Speaker 2: family and I'm not trying to make fun, but Old
Speaker 2: Senior has like eyes going in like two different directions. Okay,
Speaker 2: he is exactly how you would imagine someone who would
Speaker 2: keep sixteen children in a room would look like.
Speaker 1: Now, this is that, this is this is like, this
Speaker 1: is old Pappy. Okay, okay, Pappy Senior.
Speaker 2: I don't know. He could be some day he could
Speaker 2: be Daddy Pappy.
Speaker 1: We don't know. He's also known as the original the og.
Speaker 2: Okay, now he has like two like his He's got
Speaker 2: two y's, and I think they're both.
Speaker 1: Real, so good for him. He's cock eyed there, honey.
Speaker 2: They're going in all kinds. I mean, it looks like
Speaker 2: a damn cartoon character. He's got one going left, one
Speaker 2: going right.
Speaker 1: He don't know if he's coming or going. He don't
Speaker 1: because he can't see.
Speaker 2: Okay, and the sun does not exactly look like the
Speaker 2: brightest bulb in the turning bed.
Speaker 1: I will say, do you really think these people were
Speaker 1: with it enough to know that this is a caloriy
Speaker 1: dense something we can do to keep these kids alive
Speaker 1: on the cheap? Yeah? I do, actually, because all it
Speaker 1: would take is one search for something like how do
Speaker 1: I feed you know, keep sixteen kids alive and without trying,
Speaker 1: and I think maybe cooking all would come up. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Look, these are people that look like I don't even
Speaker 2: know if they know how to do a search. Maybe
Speaker 2: I'm just being mean. I'm being mean, I know I am.
Speaker 1: Well here's the thing. They were homeowners and we're not.
Speaker 1: So maybe you need to take a step back. And
Speaker 1: because I'm assuming that they owned the home or this
Speaker 1: could have went on for this long. Surely at landlord
Speaker 1: by at some point and wonders why.
Speaker 2: The windows is covered and ship, Yeah, there's trash and
Speaker 2: people are.
Speaker 1: Crying and screaming in the next room. So yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: assuming that this was a family home. So we I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm a rent. I rent right now. So I mean,
Speaker 1: what does that say about me?
Speaker 2: Well, it also says the economy's fucked and most people
Speaker 2: can't buy home right now.
Speaker 1: Well no, and that's fine.
Speaker 2: Prices they did half a million dollars. Yeah, but this
Speaker 2: fucker's old as hell with his damn weird eyes, and
Speaker 2: he probably bought this house in the nineteen sixty and
Speaker 2: paid ten dollars for it.
Speaker 1: Dylan, maybe just fan, Maybe it was given to it.
Speaker 2: Maybe he was part of a freak show and he's
Speaker 2: like the the eyeball guy. He can just like make
Speaker 2: them spin around in his head.
Speaker 1: They're not even attacked, they just float around in there.
Speaker 1: I would pay to see that. Sometimes they come out
Speaker 1: of his mouth like pop it back in part of
Speaker 1: his father's estate. I don't know.
Speaker 2: All I can do is make fun of these people.
Speaker 1: All I can do is make fun of it.
Speaker 2: But I still disgusting and horrific, Like you.
Speaker 1: Cry if you really think about it. These poor kids, No,
Speaker 1: it's terrible. And then the oldest have been going through
Speaker 1: this for the longest and I don't know. I can't
Speaker 1: even write their name.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, Speaking of perverts dealing, a forty
Speaker 2: five year old man has been charged with indecent exposure
Speaker 2: after police say he exposed himself and was captured on
Speaker 2: two different home security cameras.
Speaker 1: Now, is there such saying is decent exposure or could
Speaker 1: we just call it exposure and just know it's indecent?
Speaker 1: These are the things.
Speaker 2: I want to well, I assume everything is decent exposure.
Speaker 2: Because you're walking around, you decent and you're public, you're
Speaker 2: decently exposing yourself. Oh okay, all we get to see
Speaker 2: your your knees, maybe your shins, yeah, some ankle, I get.
Speaker 1: Some upper thigh on my shorts. Lately, I've been wearing
Speaker 1: the little shorty shorts because they're back, the five inch
Speaker 1: shorts or the six inch shorts.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, I've seen you and your little pink shorts.
Speaker 1: You know I feel free when I wear them.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm so glad you have a lot of self confidence, and.
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't because they honestly haven't lost that much weight.
Speaker 1: Well I guess I have. But yeah, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: do it. I'm just going to do it. We'll put
Speaker 1: some pictures up.
Speaker 2: If you want to dress provocatively with your voluptuous body doing,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to stop you.
Speaker 1: This is what decent exposure looks like.
Speaker 2: You are a lovely curvy man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we're full of.
Speaker 2: Body positivity around here, unless your eyeballs are going in
Speaker 2: two different directions and you're a pervert and you're weird,
Speaker 2: and then I probably make fun of you. No. Look,
Speaker 2: if you're just a listener and your eyeballs are going
Speaker 2: in different directions, I'm not making fun.
Speaker 1: Of you, yes, please clarify that.
Speaker 2: And your grandpappy's probably cool if his eyeballs are going
Speaker 2: a different directly, and that's not okay. But because a
Speaker 2: papa left sixteen kids in a room while his eyeballs
Speaker 2: are rolling around his head, then I am making fun
Speaker 2: of him.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but we should stop with the eye thing,
Speaker 1: because I worked with a guy who, into mind, he
Speaker 1: had a lazy eye, as it's probably not supposed to
Speaker 1: be called, and he was a really good guy, but
Speaker 1: he would be just speaking straight to you, but.
Speaker 2: Like looking at the guy beside you, and well, I've
Speaker 2: known those people too for like a year, so what
Speaker 2: they weren't weirdos, so it didn't make fun of the
Speaker 2: weird eye.
Speaker 1: But for like a year, I didn't realize that, and
Speaker 1: I I thought he was common asshole because I would
Speaker 1: think he was saying things to me that I had
Speaker 1: no idea about or that I didn't do. But it
Speaker 1: turns out he was never really speaking directly to me.
Speaker 1: He was just looking at me with his one eye.
Speaker 2: We're very non PC here, so you know.
Speaker 1: But I like that. I love the guy. Shout out, Ronnie.
Speaker 1: You know, I make fun of people.
Speaker 2: I love you dude, because I'm just I'm bitchy now.
Speaker 2: According to court documents obtained by WTHR, an officer arrived
Speaker 2: at this home to investigate a reported trespassing on June thirteenth.
Speaker 2: Responding officers spoke to a woman who said she was
Speaker 2: awakened at five am by her security camera. The victim,
Speaker 2: whose name has not been released, initially believed it was
Speaker 2: an animal on the camera, before realizing it was a
Speaker 2: man she had interacted with before, named James Davidson.
Speaker 1: Oh My on w t RICH reports that.
Speaker 2: The victims of Davidson had exposed himself to her in
Speaker 2: the past, and she had made a police report on
Speaker 2: June thirteenth.
Speaker 1: She told police.
Speaker 2: Davidson faced the camera and was helicoptering his genitals, masturbating
Speaker 2: and playing with himself.
Speaker 1: Damn he can so he knew the camera was there.
Speaker 2: On June fourteenth, police received a report that Davidson had
Speaker 2: exposed himself to another woman who lived next door to him.
Speaker 2: She alleged he was quote creeping around her house and
Speaker 2: was seen on security footage allegedly touching himself and moving
Speaker 2: in a manner similar to the first incident.
Speaker 1: I e.
Speaker 2: Helicoptering so he's been charged with two counts of public
Speaker 2: indecency and criminal trespassing. He has been convicted of publican
Speaker 2: decency three times since twenty twenty four, and he's I guess,
Speaker 2: going to be appearing in court on July ninth. So
Speaker 2: he's appeared in it seems already this week.
Speaker 1: I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Why we have to deal with this guy. I mean,
Speaker 2: public in decency three times since twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 2: now he is helicoptering on security cameras. This guy's he's
Speaker 2: got problems and he does not need to be in
Speaker 2: the public.
Speaker 1: Well, I've already heard rumors that he was a big
Speaker 1: PD Pablo fan and he was really into that song
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Get your dick out, throw it around your
Speaker 1: head like a helicopter, but those reports are unsubstantiated at
Speaker 1: this point. You know what I remember I was thinking
Speaker 1: when you were reading this about how wrong this is
Speaker 1: to do to people, and how it seemingly just shrugged
Speaker 1: off as like just this weird, goofy kind of almost
Speaker 1: funny thing. And I think it's none of that. I
Speaker 1: think the sentence should be a guy with very rough
Speaker 1: studded boots, a big guy with huge muscled thighs, comes
Speaker 1: to your house and kicks you in your little dick
Speaker 1: in your little pud meet like it goes up the
Speaker 1: number of kicks for every offense. Right, So this guy
Speaker 1: is already deserves like twenty kicks to his little pud
Speaker 1: with it by the big studded, rough booted blag guy
Speaker 1: who works for the police. This is the foot of justice, folks,
Speaker 1: is what I'm describing. Okay, Now, this guy should go
Speaker 1: to jail for ten years for this shit the first time, because,
Speaker 1: like I said, this is devient behavior and he's he's
Speaker 1: done way worse than this. I guarantee you this person
Speaker 1: has done way worse than this.
Speaker 2: Well, he's on his way.
Speaker 1: He is on his way.
Speaker 2: Because they escalate, They don't just stop at waving their
Speaker 2: little ppau. They end up sexually assaulting someone going.
Speaker 1: Further than that. These people cannot be reformed.
Speaker 2: No, and I can't know why we keep dealing with this.
Speaker 1: They cannot this type of this type of stuff, These
Speaker 1: cereal rapists, these molesters, these people cannot control themselves for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, be it brain chemicals, be it a spiritual thing,
Speaker 1: be it whatever reason. This is the way they are
Speaker 1: wired and they will never ever stop and you can
Speaker 1: never ever trust them. So I don't understand why we're
Speaker 1: not realizing that. As a society, we realize it.
Speaker 2: We're just complacent. Our legislators don't give a hoot about it.
Speaker 1: The most human, the most humane thing you can do,
Speaker 1: even considering them as well, which I don't, is a
Speaker 1: penal colony on the deserted island in the middle of
Speaker 1: the fucking ocean. Keyword here, penal. Yeah. And if they
Speaker 1: want to go fucking do all this stuff to each other,
Speaker 1: then hey, it's fine. Just drop diddy juice from the
Speaker 1: air like supply dry.
Speaker 2: We've already got a place for these folks.
Speaker 1: It's called Epstein Purpose Epstein Island into a molester devmp
Speaker 1: penal quality, and this is where we send these people
Speaker 1: to live out the rest of their little lives.
Speaker 2: Their little lives, their little lives doing all right. We
Speaker 2: have another another strange story here, Dylan. This is according
Speaker 2: to the New York Post, Christopher Peden, thirty six, of
Speaker 2: Fort Wayne, Indiana, had an arson plan that ended up.
Speaker 1: Being a bunch of junk. It was not a good plan.
Speaker 2: A firebug in Indiana cut off his own penis, dumb
Speaker 2: gasoline on it and then used it to a lot
Speaker 2: of blaze in Saudi neighbors garage.
Speaker 1: Okay, this guy really gave himself the shaft.
Speaker 2: Do you like my pun?
Speaker 1: Did you make that up? But that that pun?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: This isn't real. This can't be real. No one has
Speaker 1: ever done this, cut their own made a Molotov cocktail
Speaker 1: out of their own penis, because I mean, that's about
Speaker 1: the most hardcore thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: Dick fire.
Speaker 1: This, This dick is fire. Now, this dick is on fire, bro,
Speaker 1: and it just comes flying at gage. Bro, that's where
Speaker 1: my motorcycle's at. Dog, what are you doing? Now? This
Speaker 1: is the partying buddy Christmas decorations, you some bitch. This
Speaker 1: is that drunk buddy who goes away too far and
Speaker 1: like you've already settled down, you got kids and then
Speaker 1: a wife, and he still comes around, but he gets
Speaker 1: way too drunk and and this is like, this is
Speaker 1: the apex of it where your wife is like he
Speaker 1: can never come back because he threw.
Speaker 2: This is why I tell you not to drink heavily,
Speaker 2: because I can't trust you not to cut your dick
Speaker 2: off and light it.
Speaker 1: On fire and be like, why do you not want
Speaker 1: Tim to come by? He said, He's I've known him since,
Speaker 1: you know, kindergarten. She's like, he caught our garage on
Speaker 1: fire with his flaming dick. He can't come back.
Speaker 2: He's gonna drop the bomb on you, bud now. Petin
Speaker 2: told cops that he quote harmed himself inside the garage
Speaker 2: and Fort Wayne by cutting off his penis with a
Speaker 2: kitchen knife. This happened on May sixth. By the way,
Speaker 2: I mean this is this is totally nuts.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's just a penis.
Speaker 2: Well that it is? Yes, yes, okay, give me more puns.
Speaker 1: I love them. Now.
Speaker 2: During this plan, I've never heard of a dick used
Speaker 2: as kindling.
Speaker 1: By the way, no new new for me.
Speaker 2: I just had a thought that the next Olympic Games
Speaker 2: are being held in l a O. Got correct. We
Speaker 2: could get this guy to run with the Olympic torch.
Speaker 2: But it's just a dick in his hand. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: maybe that wasn't so great idea, but anyway.
Speaker 1: It's a great I think it's a great idea. I
Speaker 1: don't think it'll bring people back to the Olympics.
Speaker 2: He tells belie that he poured gasoline on his severed
Speaker 2: genitals and set it on fire on the floor of
Speaker 2: the garage, just inside the door. He later ran into
Speaker 2: the police and he claimed he had been slashed in
Speaker 2: the city's downtown area, but soon copped to being dishonest
Speaker 2: about the stabbing and told investigators that he wanted to
Speaker 2: be truthful, and that is when he made his confession.
Speaker 2: If you will. Investigators collected evidence from the garage, including
Speaker 2: a red plastic gas container, four lighters, and a kitchen knife.
Speaker 2: This guy has been charged with arson and is doing
Speaker 2: court next week. We have no word on the condition
Speaker 2: of his angry inchris what is left of it.
Speaker 1: Look, obviously something's wrong with this guy. Okay, we're convent silly,
Speaker 1: but something's wrong with this guy. He's got some pro
Speaker 1: something's wrong with him.
Speaker 2: He can be peeing out of a hole.
Speaker 1: D hold on second, not a peep hole. They're saying
Speaker 1: that he cut it off mm hmm and set it
Speaker 1: on fire.
Speaker 2: That's what day he's saying out here, the saying is doing.
Speaker 1: And then he's just out kicking it around. Bro, He's
Speaker 1: just out This is going on with the rest of
Speaker 1: his evening until the cops were like, hey, why are
Speaker 1: your pants covered?
Speaker 2: Sure they arrived due to the fire.
Speaker 1: Ah you think so.
Speaker 2: And happened upon this bleeding fella. Ah, yes, yes, it's like, ps,
Speaker 2: my peep is gone.
Speaker 1: You know you know what, my my dick would start
Speaker 1: such a big.
Speaker 2: Fire like an LA wildfire.
Speaker 1: No, I'm telling telling you, dude. People be like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, what puns or Pratt will be out campaigning
Speaker 1: on your dick. How is the whole area burned up
Speaker 1: so quickly? And then when they found out, they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess so if he threw that on fire, there's
Speaker 1: no way we could have contained this.
Speaker 2: No one believes you, don't, especially me.
Speaker 1: No, No, I think I have that. My longtime listeners
Speaker 1: know I must. I'm a show. I'm a grower, not
Speaker 1: a show. So let's be honest. Okay, let's bring it
Speaker 1: back down to earth. It would not make much of
Speaker 1: a mess. You might not even.
Speaker 2: Notice this may come that's a surprise to you doing
Speaker 2: But our listeners don't want to hear about your penis.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you opened up with like butt sex, butt
Speaker 1: plug butt stuff like twenty times in the first ten seconds.
Speaker 1: Well that's expected and now you're talking about helicoptering, people
Speaker 1: helicoptering their genitals and multiple stories and you think I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna bring my genitals into this. I mean, what
Speaker 1: that expectation alone? You see what I'm doing with criminals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm helicoptering. Oh see that. I don't think women can helicopter.
Speaker 2: How do you know? Maybe they can? I didn't say
Speaker 2: what I was helicoptering.
Speaker 1: God stop, let's just move on.
Speaker 2: Maybe I got a really big clotor.
Speaker 1: All right? Howbout you just come in the room just
Speaker 1: slinging or being all over the place, mock clearing the
Speaker 1: coffee table.
Speaker 2: Off, Get you a big old aye full of it. Hey,
Speaker 2: I know you're as going out in that direction over yonder,
Speaker 2: but I want you to direct it right here and
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: Bring that eye around here and look at this. You
Speaker 1: look at this?
Speaker 2: All right? The we gotta talk about this event that
Speaker 2: happened I say event, this incident that happened in Oregon
Speaker 2: in a city park, speaking of perverts. I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 2: every news story I've read this week has been about
Speaker 2: some fucking weirdo. There is a sisterhood of strangers that
Speaker 2: jumped a creepy thirty one year old man after he
Speaker 2: allegedly groped more than half a dozen women in a
Speaker 2: popular city park, according to The Oregonian. And of course
Speaker 2: police were slow to respond.
Speaker 1: So these women banded together and kicked this guy's ass.
Speaker 2: Yes, And this is what I'm talking about, Dylan. This
Speaker 2: is what we all need to do when we see
Speaker 2: a fucking pervert. We need to band together and kick
Speaker 2: the perverts ass. So this city park seems to be
Speaker 2: about forty three acres and this guy Elkkally, which you said,
Speaker 2: you don't even know if that's a real.
Speaker 1: Name, you said, aimin elk Holy of Beaverton, of Beaverton, Oregon. Wow,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: So he went on this perverted rampage in the forty
Speaker 2: three acre park. It began when a twenty eight year
Speaker 2: old woman named Zoe Shearer stepped out of a car
Speaker 2: wearing an ornate bra top and a two two skirt
Speaker 2: for a photo shoot. And I get this. I was
Speaker 2: a photographer for many years specialized in boudoir, shot a
Speaker 2: lot of burlesque performers and you know, kind of alt models,
Speaker 2: So I get wearing a strange outfit in a public
Speaker 2: place for photo shoot.
Speaker 1: This is not uncommon. She's going to do her pictures
Speaker 1: right right, you get I get it. Probably change or
Speaker 1: if she's gonna stay, obviously you should probably change. Maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, So she steps out of the car.
Speaker 2: Maybe she's wearing this interesting outfit, maybe not the norm,
Speaker 2: but she's doing a photo shoot, so I totally get that. Cool.
Speaker 2: He immediately darts toward her. He grabs a hold of
Speaker 2: her breast and waist and would not let go. And
Speaker 2: the creepy thing is doing Oh my gosh. He starts screaming, quote,
Speaker 2: I need it. I need it, every bone in my body,
Speaker 2: I need it.
Speaker 1: Oh God.
Speaker 2: She was finally able to break free of the man.
Speaker 2: He chased her around the park as he was making
Speaker 2: those haunting statements. Her companion, another forty three year old woman,
Speaker 2: a clothing designer, had tried to stop the man. He
Speaker 2: body checked her, according to police reports. A male photographer
Speaker 2: with the duo broke up the chase and elk Holy
Speaker 2: then moved on to more victims. He turned his eye.
Speaker 2: He turned his eye to Helen. He was able to
Speaker 2: turn his eye and like cider singer, so he turned
Speaker 2: his eye to a thirty one and thirty two year old.
Speaker 1: Women.
Speaker 2: I guess thirty one and thirty two year old women
Speaker 2: that were in the park. They were already aware of
Speaker 2: this man's actions. They had seen him attack these other folks.
Speaker 2: One of them was able to strike him with a
Speaker 2: water bottle when he came close. It was enough to
Speaker 2: fend him off, but it did not end his Purvespree.
Speaker 2: He then decided to pursue a seventy four year old
Speaker 2: woman and her forty.
Speaker 1: Five year old daughter.
Speaker 2: They did have a fifty five pound German Shepherd mixed
Speaker 2: dog with them, thankfully. He allegedly straddled the elderly woman,
Speaker 2: astonishing her, and she was like, I'm seventy four years old.
Speaker 2: My first thought was get the frick off me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, so she kicked him and.
Speaker 2: Her daughter joined in shoving him. The dog is barked,
Speaker 2: starts snarling at the man. This dog's about to eat
Speaker 2: his ass up. I just aim blown away here. That's
Speaker 2: when the Sisterhood gets their revenge.
Speaker 1: Dylan. The group of.
Speaker 2: Effective women, including the thirty one year old the thirty
Speaker 2: two year old, they all be photographer, the model, the
Speaker 2: fashion designer. They all start running over. They start wailing
Speaker 2: on this guy. They pounced on him. They start hitting, punching, scratching,
Speaker 2: They pull his hair, they pull on his clothes, everything.
Speaker 2: The seventy four year old woman said she didn't feel
Speaker 2: any danger at that point because the sisterhood was there.
Speaker 2: Portland Police arrived to arrest the man after victims waited
Speaker 2: thirty one minutes. Four different people called nine one one
Speaker 2: at the scene, with the last call at two thirty
Speaker 2: eight pm, after police were still absent from the scene. Now,
Speaker 2: cops in the area say there is a significant staffing
Speaker 2: shortage and that has been a problem for the police department.
Speaker 2: They do work hard every day to respond as quickly
Speaker 2: as possible, but the reality is that they don't have
Speaker 2: the staffing level to meet the level of service that
Speaker 2: the community deserves.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure that's what it is. That's what
Speaker 1: happens when you call for defunding the Well, this is
Speaker 1: what happens when you fucking totally shit on cops and
Speaker 1: it turns out they don't want to work there anymore.
Speaker 1: Who saw that coming.
Speaker 2: Well, the department also doesn't have any more funds to
Speaker 2: hire police officers. There were two ballot measures. Voters are
Speaker 2: set to I guess vote on coming up about whether
Speaker 2: or not they want to further fund the police department.
Speaker 1: They're literally defunding the police. And this is what happens.
Speaker 1: This is what happens that the cops can't respond or
Speaker 1: the cops don't want to respond because they're afraid of
Speaker 1: every move they make of being sued or dog filmed
Speaker 1: or filmed or any of that stuff. Yeah, accused of wrongdoing.
Speaker 2: Like I said, two ballot measures the voters are set
Speaker 2: to measure this November could address the issue. Elkolli also
Speaker 2: allegedly put one of the women in a choke hold
Speaker 2: during this rampage and injured her jaw. Police said he
Speaker 2: was high on LSD.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: He pled guilty to three counts of harassment and one
Speaker 2: kind of attempted strangulation and it's been sentenced to two
Speaker 2: years of probation and eighty hours of community service. He's
Speaker 2: also been ordered to undergo evaluations for drug, psychological and
Speaker 2: sexual issues. Sharer, the original model who was attacked, believes
Speaker 2: the punishment is inadequate and said she hoped that he
Speaker 2: would be forced to undergo some kind of impatient treatment.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got one question. Well, for one, I totally
Speaker 1: I just knew some bullshit sentence was going to calm
Speaker 1: down like that, and it's just a it's a thousand wonders,
Speaker 1: especially if he truly was on LSD or you know
Speaker 1: whatever that he didn't you know, harm really seriously harm
Speaker 1: physically or kill one of these victims.
Speaker 2: And I'm not being like, I'm not really being a
Speaker 2: smart ass when I say they defunded the police, They've
Speaker 2: like literally no, they're literally no. I mean this town
Speaker 2: literally like the mayor they voted to defund the police. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they'refore there, and they took the funds away, so the
Speaker 2: less Yeah, so that's actually true. But it's not me
Speaker 2: just like making fun of these this town for being stupid.
Speaker 1: So I have one question, one question alone for one,
Speaker 1: this female voltron that formed up out of this these
Speaker 1: victims and they kicked his ass. I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it. I want more of it. Where were the
Speaker 1: men in the park, That's what I want to know.
Speaker 1: Where were the other men? I know the one photographer
Speaker 1: tried to help. Where were the men in this park?
Speaker 1: Because where I come.
Speaker 2: From, maybe there weren't a lot of men around Jyllan.
Speaker 1: Well, it's I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe the men were not recreating at the park that day.
Speaker 1: There's just no men in the park. Perhaps not possible,
Speaker 1: but you know what, I think it's possible as well.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of soy boys, a bunch of little
Speaker 1: punks who are scared to death the physical, toxic masculinity,
Speaker 1: and they're just scared to death and fit. I mean,
Speaker 1: I see video after video people just talking crazy, getting
Speaker 1: all up in people's faces and they just stand there shivering.
Speaker 1: Oh God.
Speaker 2: Look, my papa had a word for those men besides yellowbillied.
Speaker 2: He called them taffy asses. And I think he just
Speaker 2: got a lot of taffy asses running around out here.
Speaker 1: Dylan, I'm sorry, but where I come from, it don't matter.
Speaker 1: If there was two men in that part, they would
Speaker 1: have been on that man.
Speaker 2: Where I come from, from the damn Jump Street. This
Speaker 2: man grabs me, I'm gonna be.
Speaker 1: Wailing on his ass. Well, I'm just saying, the.
Speaker 2: Sisterhood's gonna have to come over and tear me off.
Speaker 2: This motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I've seen instances of men acting crazy in public and stuff,
Speaker 1: and every single time I've seen that in my life,
Speaker 1: in the real world. There were already men flanking him,
Speaker 1: getting their children to stay over here, out of the fray,
Speaker 1: and positioning themselves to fuck this guy up. That's just
Speaker 1: not allowed to happen.
Speaker 2: But because what should happen when you see some crazy
Speaker 2: motherfucker on the subway threatening everybody, tormenting somebody, Why don't
Speaker 2: people just I don't care ment what y'all all should
Speaker 2: just form a damn group and jump on this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Yes, as only wait.
Speaker 2: We got to take our shit back. And when I
Speaker 2: say that, I mean take it back from these criminals.
Speaker 2: We got to take our communities back. We can't stand
Speaker 2: around anymore and watch the community and our society decline
Speaker 2: into just rampant criminal chaos. We as a people, we
Speaker 2: have seen our government isn't going to protect us, Our
Speaker 2: police aren't always going to be able to protect us.
Speaker 2: Law enforcement is not always going to be there. You
Speaker 2: have to take your safety and other folks safety. You
Speaker 2: have to take it into your own hands. And I'm
Speaker 2: not advocating for vigilante justice, Like I don't want you
Speaker 2: to go out here and like hunt sex offenders on
Speaker 2: a registry and kill them and go to prison or
Speaker 2: anything like that. It's not what I'm advocating for, even
Speaker 2: though you know, hey, we could probably use a dexter
Speaker 2: these days. I'm just saying, when you see some shit
Speaker 2: going down in a public place, I don't know why
Speaker 2: three or four people don't go over and stop that shit.
Speaker 2: Stand up.
Speaker 1: It's about it.
Speaker 2: Why are we so fucking pussified these days? We've been
Speaker 2: neutered as a society, and we can't live our lives
Speaker 2: like that. We can't be so afraid that, oh no,
Speaker 2: this could go viral and someone could cancel me, or
Speaker 2: oh my, I might get in trouble. I would rather be,
Speaker 2: as they say, judged by twelve than carried by six.
Speaker 2: Isn't that what they say, Dylan?
Speaker 1: That is what they say. But I mean, you see
Speaker 1: stories like the Penny situation up there in New York.
Speaker 1: They tried their damnedest. That man. In my opinion, I
Speaker 1: think he definitely saved people's lives or saving them from
Speaker 1: getting harmed that day by stepping in to that maniac
Speaker 1: man who had been put on the street time after
Speaker 1: time by the system. That same sys did their best
Speaker 1: to destroy him and put him in jail for the
Speaker 1: rest of his life. So I think those stories resonate
Speaker 1: in these people's heads to a degree, and like if
Speaker 1: I do do something, will I get in like serious trouble.
Speaker 1: So that's part of it. And also just society in
Speaker 1: general has just like I said, attacking anything. Just I
Speaker 1: don't know, this idea that everyone gets to do anything
Speaker 1: they want at all times in public is not really
Speaker 1: a healthy idea.
Speaker 2: Sometimes violence has to be met with further violence.
Speaker 1: But that's the way I Again, where I came from,
Speaker 1: the police response time was forty five minutes an hour
Speaker 1: plus because you were in the middle of nowhere. There's
Speaker 1: maybe one or two sheriff deputies, which you're in the
Speaker 1: sheriff's jurisdiction outside of the city limits.
Speaker 2: Again, this is why Mountain folks, country folks a little bit.
Speaker 2: You have to handle it because you've got to take
Speaker 2: they're not into your own hands, because again you're in
Speaker 2: some isolated rural area. You live in a community where
Speaker 2: it takes you thirty forty minutes just to get into town. Right,
Speaker 2: it's gonna take the police a minute to get to you.
Speaker 2: This is why we built different, Dylan, because we've had
Speaker 2: to protect ourselves. What's true, we've been thrust into a
Speaker 2: situation where we don't always have law enforcements to come
Speaker 2: along and help us.
Speaker 1: No that they come and check on the aftermath, but
Speaker 1: very seldom can they actually catch something in progress in
Speaker 1: a situation.
Speaker 2: I sound like some insane violent person who's always like,
Speaker 2: go kick the rest the bass. But I'm telling you, bro,
Speaker 2: if if we stood up more I think as a
Speaker 2: society these days, and just knock the fuck out of
Speaker 2: somebody acting out of pocket or smack the shit. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's obvious some of these people ain't never had their mouths.
Speaker 2: Their mama ain't never smacked them through the mouth before,
Speaker 2: and that's the problem. And I think if we just
Speaker 2: started standing up to people to these let's be.
Speaker 1: Out their bullies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are like these people who come in to
Speaker 2: a restaurant and show their ass, and they are acting
Speaker 2: like big bullies, big yelling, screaming, throwing shit. If somebody
Speaker 2: clean their damn clock one good time, I bet you
Speaker 2: they wouldn't go out and knack like that again.
Speaker 1: I just recently saw a viral video this guy run around,
Speaker 1: This dude run around talking about he from New York,
Speaker 1: they don't know, and just tripping in his parking lot.
Speaker 2: You know what people think when they say this, like,
Speaker 2: I'm from New York. Motherfucker. Have you met some old
Speaker 2: country boy from the damn backwoods of Georgia, damn work
Speaker 2: the farmer's whole life.
Speaker 1: I don't think you have. Well, this guy did meet
Speaker 1: a big, burly country boy who strung his ass out
Speaker 1: in the parking lot and to where he was screaming
Speaker 1: for help. So I mean, it just goes to show
Speaker 1: you loud mouse they get away with that shit, and
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't. They run up against run up on
Speaker 1: the wrong one.
Speaker 2: Well, I find typically the louder people are, the more
Speaker 2: taffy ass they are because people who are truly like
Speaker 2: badasses don't have to add tides it. They don't have
Speaker 2: to let everybody know I'm the badass. They're usually the
Speaker 2: quiet type that just stands back and watches. But when
Speaker 2: they lose it, they lose it.
Speaker 1: When somebody looks. When somebody looks at you said, look,
Speaker 1: I don't want any trouble. You don't take that as
Speaker 1: they're wimpy. What they mean is they don't want to
Speaker 1: deal with the aftermath of fucking you up. Okay, And
Speaker 1: if you have a guy who's very relaxed and kind
Speaker 1: of laughing, you know, chuggling to themselves. In a situation
Speaker 1: like this, you need to stop and go somewhere because
Speaker 1: that person, I mean, you can tell a lot by
Speaker 1: the way they're standing, where they're holding their hands and
Speaker 1: things like that as well. But it's just how about
Speaker 1: you just don't go around picking fights well, like you're
Speaker 1: a badass. There's that, there's that doing.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know I get a little riled up, but honestly,
Speaker 2: I'm just so frustrated, but.
Speaker 1: We do need to take our ship back.
Speaker 2: Just so frustrated because I see so many videos on
Speaker 2: social media of people, criminals just being allowed to get
Speaker 2: out in the streets and do shit that we would
Speaker 2: have never accepted fifteen years ago, thirty years ago, and
Speaker 2: it just makes me wonder where is our society headed,
Speaker 2: Because I'm honestly afraid of what's gonna come if we
Speaker 2: continue to allow this kind of thing to go on.
Speaker 2: What kind of world will we be living in in
Speaker 2: twenty years if we allow these criminals to get away
Speaker 2: with this kind of stuff and we all stand back
Speaker 2: because we're too afraid to stand up or intimidated or
Speaker 2: whatever I'm telling you, bro, if we don't nip this
Speaker 2: shit in the bud now and start standing up to
Speaker 2: protect our friends and neighbors and our community and women
Speaker 2: and children from these perverts who think it's okay to
Speaker 2: helicopter they're dick and a woman at her security camera
Speaker 2: knowing good and damn well she's going to see it,
Speaker 2: or think it's acceptable to run up and grab some
Speaker 2: woman at a park and start like fondling all these women.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, a seventy four year old.
Speaker 2: Woman that this isn't okay. And if we keep allowing
Speaker 2: this to go on, it's just I'm telling you, bro,
Speaker 2: we're headed on a bad path and we have got
Speaker 2: to stand up now before it gets worse.
Speaker 1: It's true.
Speaker 2: And I guess that's why I feel really heated right now,
Speaker 2: because I want all my sisters to join a sisterhood.
Speaker 2: I want us to take care of each other.
Speaker 1: A feminist vultron kicking at yes, and if that.
Speaker 2: Means for five of us to got to go take
Speaker 2: care of some business in public. We have the hobby
Speaker 2: lobby and we see some hickling down girls. I want
Speaker 2: us to make our contact in the in the yarn isle,
Speaker 2: and I want us to go take care of it,
Speaker 2: like we gotta.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of something like this, you know, there's this
Speaker 1: Newport Beach situation, this mob violence. I'm not gonna call
Speaker 1: it a team takeover because it's mob violence. Is what
Speaker 1: you're seeing is getting worse, it's getting more.
Speaker 2: So many cases of that out this week too, Dylan. Actually,
Speaker 2: I was going to dress a few of these team
Speaker 2: takeovers that have resulted in violence.
Speaker 1: Well, and this, I think many of our listeners have
Speaker 1: seen this recent most recent one in Newport Beach where
Speaker 1: these three or fourteen males attacked this female cop And like,
Speaker 1: when did when did we start raising kids? You think,
Speaker 1: who would even think about doing that. I've been around
Speaker 1: cops before. I knew, damn well, I could kick their
Speaker 1: ass and they're being an asshole to me, But I did.
Speaker 1: I didn't do that out of respect for society and
Speaker 1: just the system in general, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: who in the world is going to attack a police
Speaker 1: officer like that?
Speaker 2: Well, look, there's this idea that seems to have circulated,
Speaker 2: especially within the last i would say ten years or so,
Speaker 2: this attitude that the cops are bad, All cops are bad, right,
Speaker 2: acab all cops are bad, and that you don't have
Speaker 2: to respect authority and that you can just do whatever
Speaker 2: you want, and that if you do abide by the
Speaker 2: law or respect authority that somehow makes you a boot liquor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I'm very apple achin like yo outlaw like fuck authority
Speaker 2: kind of person. But I also do understand there is
Speaker 2: a time and place for law enforcement, and it is
Speaker 2: needed because when you don't have law enforcement. We see
Speaker 2: what happens in these cities that have defunded police.
Speaker 1: We have to have basic aprea.
Speaker 2: We have to have we have to have law and
Speaker 2: order as a society, otherwise it's anarchy, and that is
Speaker 2: not what we want.
Speaker 1: No, because the only thing holding back human nature. Because
Speaker 1: many people assume most everyone's mostly good and it's just
Speaker 1: a few bad apples, I think the opposite. Actually, I
Speaker 1: think just because for many tens of thousands of years
Speaker 1: we lived in this lawless, uncivilized society, primitive.
Speaker 2: It's only the strong survis.
Speaker 1: It's the rules of nature to I take what you
Speaker 1: have if I want it, and if I'm stronger, I
Speaker 1: beat you, you lose whatever you kill me. And we
Speaker 1: lived that way for way longer than we the way
Speaker 1: we live in thousands of years, and so the basics
Speaker 1: of society, what you're describing of civilized society is what really,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, holds human nature in check absolutely. And
Speaker 1: in all these dystopian movies, even when it's a creature
Speaker 1: feature or zombies, if you'll notice, the story always moves
Speaker 1: on to the bigger danger is not this thing we're
Speaker 1: living with or dealing with or fighting, that's other humans.
Speaker 1: The story always goes that way for a reason.
Speaker 2: And we've seen that, and we see that, seen that, yes, firsthand,
Speaker 2: those of us who've lived through natural disasters. Yes, the
Speaker 2: poor folks who survived Hurricane Katrina saw it.
Speaker 1: And that was a massive scale.
Speaker 2: Writing murder, people robbing each other, trying to kill each
Speaker 2: other over the last case of water, over some laundry detergents.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen that a bit, even during some
Speaker 2: of the hurricanes. We've experienced in the mountains, robbing, stealing
Speaker 2: all that, taking generators taken from people, you know, thinking
Speaker 2: that this is an excuse that they can get away
Speaker 2: with crime.
Speaker 1: No one's there to stop exactly, that's right.
Speaker 2: So it devolves very quickly when there is no authority around.
Speaker 2: And I just think this attitude that if you support
Speaker 2: law enforcement or that you agree we do need to
Speaker 2: have laws on the books and we have to have
Speaker 2: order in society that automatically makes you like some boot liquor,
Speaker 2: down on your knees whatever. Sucking off a cop is
Speaker 2: crazy to me.
Speaker 1: And if you want to suck a cop off, that's fine.
Speaker 1: And if the cops a you know, conceinding adult, that's
Speaker 1: all fine. Just to be clear, I've seen some.
Speaker 2: Of these social media cops and I'm just gonna say
Speaker 2: some of them boys and would be looking all right.
Speaker 2: I seen you winking at a couple of them the
Speaker 2: other day.
Speaker 1: You ain't seen me winking nobody.
Speaker 2: You love it when they on horseback they're winking at me.
Speaker 2: I heard you earlier today talking about police on horseback.
Speaker 2: I think you'd like it. No, yeah, you do.
Speaker 1: No horses scare me though, Yeah, but they do, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they do. Okay.
Speaker 2: So, speaking of these team takeovers, I know we've been
Speaker 2: ranting a little bit here. There was a nineteen year
Speaker 2: old and six others injured in a July fourth shooting
Speaker 2: during a Florida team takeover in downtown Pensacola. Philip Devon
Speaker 2: Monte Sheppard Junior was killed in the shooting. At the time,
Speaker 2: they didn't have any suspects in custody, but I'm sure
Speaker 2: by now they probably do. I think this article is
Speaker 2: a little older, but I just wanted to address some
Speaker 2: of these team takeovers and the violence that is surrounding them.
Speaker 1: Over half a.
Speaker 2: Dozen people have been arrested after a Fourth of July
Speaker 2: block party in North Charleston's Chequora Cherokee neighborhood. It erupted
Speaker 2: in violence. There's a video of a police officer being attacked,
Speaker 2: which has spread widely online. Officers responded on Saturday around
Speaker 2: eight thirty pm after getting reports of gunfire and people
Speaker 2: firing fireworks toward passing vehicles. Authorities say they made repeated
Speaker 2: announcements that the event had ended and directed people to
Speaker 2: leave like in an effort to de escalate, but the
Speaker 2: situation escalated anyway, with fights breaking out, more shots fired,
Speaker 2: officers leaving their patrol cars to separate people and restore order.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: During this response, they were able to recover multiple firearms
Speaker 2: and a makeshift spear Okay, and two officers, both females,
Speaker 2: suffered minor injuries. A total of seven arrests were made
Speaker 2: during this block party, four where miners and three were adults.
Speaker 2: I mean, but these takeovers, this is what's happening. And
Speaker 2: I don't know why we keep calling them takeovers, because
Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right. They are not takeovers. They
Speaker 2: are riots, mob violence.
Speaker 1: They are mob violence. And another thing when you see
Speaker 1: these riots and stuff, you see the mob mentality set
Speaker 1: in on people and how quick people who would never
Speaker 1: ever do something like this will go along. We see
Speaker 1: it in some true crime stories when we have a
Speaker 1: big group of people, do one of the ones we
Speaker 1: had not that long ago, were they told Ford k
Speaker 1: they tortured that poor woman in such a horrible way.
Speaker 1: You just see these people. Some people are just wired
Speaker 1: like that. They go along with whoever's leading the alpha
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's just something we really. Like you said,
Speaker 1: I do think we are at a tipping point that
Speaker 1: if we as citizens, because we're the only ones who's
Speaker 1: going to affect serious real change, there's more of us.
Speaker 2: When you think about politicians, there are more of us
Speaker 2: than them.
Speaker 1: Well, they don't care because they live behind their gates exactly.
Speaker 2: So it is up to us the average citizen. Me,
Speaker 2: you Joe blow down the street. It is up to
Speaker 2: us to make change.
Speaker 1: It is it is, is true.
Speaker 2: You know we're gonna have to step up.
Speaker 1: Bring back neighborhood watch groups walking around neighborhoo with flashlights
Speaker 1: and stuff. Band because there's strength in numbers. You know,
Speaker 1: when you see some bullshit, call the police. Don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't play those games. You're doing some bullshit around
Speaker 1: my house. I'm calling the fucking police.
Speaker 2: Well, we've seen We've discussed this multiple times, but we
Speaker 2: live across from a neighborhood park. A lot of people
Speaker 2: who don't live in this neighborhood come to the park,
Speaker 2: which is fine, it's the public park. I love that
Speaker 2: people are out and I mean, I'm just happy to
Speaker 2: see kids out playing. That tickles me. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: please come.
Speaker 1: To the park.
Speaker 2: You know, I want to see your kids out and
Speaker 2: about running around playing like playing little games.
Speaker 1: And hide and go seek and being.
Speaker 2: Creative, you know, the swings as you're on a pirate
Speaker 2: ship whatever. I mean, I love seeing that. So I think,
Speaker 2: you know, bring your kids out. We want kids to recreate,
Speaker 2: we want them outdoors. But we've seen folks pull up
Speaker 2: like like they want to have a fight. Yeah, Like
Speaker 2: we've had people pull up and they're like yelling at
Speaker 2: each other, like they come to the park to fight. Yes,
Speaker 2: And we've immediately been like, uh uh no, because you're.
Speaker 1: Not going to be shooting guns and shipping mine. And
Speaker 1: you also have people going over there and just hanging
Speaker 1: out at all different times of the night, smoking pots,
Speaker 1: smoking pot, probably doing the cheating onto each other's spouse.
Speaker 2: Of God knows a lot of that going on.
Speaker 1: God knows what.
Speaker 2: The young woman who films her upskirt OnlyFans content.
Speaker 1: We suspect, we think, but no, but seriously, and then
Speaker 1: just trash everywhere, you know, bullshit, that's not okay. Don't
Speaker 1: do that. Parks close at dark for a reason.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a residential neighborhood as well, so people should
Speaker 2: be more respectful of the community. Like this park is
Speaker 2: in our neighborhood and we live here, so you should
Speaker 2: not be over here at nine thirty at night blasting
Speaker 2: music is lot.
Speaker 1: Well I've seen it one in the morning, bro, when
Speaker 1: I go to work.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So, speaking of more of these takeovers, Dylan, there
Speaker 2: was a takeover. I guess you could say July fourth
Speaker 2: in Hilton Head, South Carolina, a very popular beach destination,
Speaker 2: where there was a shooting. And so you know, now
Speaker 2: town leaders are weighing about drafting curfews, enhancing security patrols,
Speaker 2: upgrading surveillance cameras. And that's what happens during these situations
Speaker 2: is they're going to make Big brother more readily I
Speaker 2: guess you could say readily available. Big Brothers going to
Speaker 2: be watching everybody because the more this shit happens, the
Speaker 2: more they want to surveill us. We're going to be
Speaker 2: living in a surveillance state.
Speaker 1: Well, no, that's exactly right. Many people think that because
Speaker 1: we keep wondering why why does it seem like the
Speaker 1: system doesn't work anymore? Right, Like when did it stop
Speaker 1: locking up criminals and clearing you know, people who shouldn't
Speaker 1: be in society out of society, And it's like they
Speaker 1: just keep churning that, like you have this asshole at
Speaker 1: this park attacking all this women in Oregon and you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, it could have been much much worse
Speaker 1: than that. And I'm sure some this will traumatize, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, those victims for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1: You know, they can have PTSD from an event like
Speaker 1: that that they carry with them the of their life.
Speaker 1: And then you just he doesn't even get jail time,
Speaker 1: no jail time. He gets some probation and some community
Speaker 1: service that he will never show up for. He'll never
Speaker 1: show up for that, and he'll probably never show up
Speaker 1: for you know, dous probation either, and they won't even
Speaker 1: go find the guy. Why but that this is part
Speaker 1: of it because the worst our society gets the same.
Speaker 1: All the stuff you're describing, the way you're feeling about
Speaker 1: it is going to make you more susceptible. When they
Speaker 1: bring out the robot dogs and the robot spiders and
Speaker 1: the drones. That's what's going to make your park or
Speaker 1: your community safe again. And you're going to accept it
Speaker 1: because you're sick to death of everything going to hell
Speaker 1: in a handbasket around you. And then that's what it's
Speaker 1: priming you for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and these AI data centers, I'm sorry, but really
Speaker 2: I think that's all about a surveillance state. Flot cameras everywhere.
Speaker 2: They want to know what you're up to. They want
Speaker 2: to spy on you. They want to control you completely.
Speaker 2: They want to control your ability to buy food. They
Speaker 2: want to control your ability to own a home. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's what we're what it's all boiling down to.
Speaker 2: So with every inch we give in allowing our privacy
Speaker 2: to just be totally eradicated, right, our rights to privacy, Like,
Speaker 2: we're heading toward a dystopian nightmare.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, at first when they install all the cameras
Speaker 1: and stuff and break ins go down and people quit,
Speaker 1: you know, doing the dumb shit. At first you're like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: that worked, But that's inevitably going to evolve straight into
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four because they're not going to stop there.
Speaker 1: The system's not put there for your benefit.
Speaker 2: We're right, and we're talking about oh we need to
Speaker 2: say I And look, I literally cannot get Google Maps
Speaker 2: to like take me somewhere without fucking up the directions
Speaker 2: and rerouting me one hundred times. So I'm supposed to
Speaker 2: believe that AI is really going to do these positive
Speaker 2: things for me in the world when I can't even
Speaker 2: get directions somewhere they're really basic directions.
Speaker 1: They're using that as a vehicle to get you to
Speaker 1: accept all these other things. And AI in its infant state,
Speaker 1: which it is right now, is it really doesn't do
Speaker 1: all that much. In my crunch, tons of data, Like,
Speaker 1: all it does.
Speaker 2: Is find you a bunch of bullshit online and be like,
Speaker 2: here are these answers, And half the.
Speaker 1: Time all it's doing is picking from the ship that
Speaker 1: people put online, so you get the dumb shit with
Speaker 1: the good stuff. But no, I think that's the vehicle
Speaker 1: used as why we're doing X y Z, But there's
Speaker 1: certainly more to it.
Speaker 2: Remind me. I want to talk about this AI thing
Speaker 2: as it relates to podcasts in just a moment.
Speaker 1: But we had one more team takeover.
Speaker 2: I want to discuss that happened in Raleigh, North Carolina
Speaker 2: over the July fourth weekend, where more than twenty three
Speaker 2: adults were arrested during this team takeover.
Speaker 1: So it's not a team takeover.
Speaker 2: There was adults, multiple shootings, nine injury, dozens of law
Speaker 2: enforcement arrests, and this was across two major nightlife and
Speaker 2: shopping districts. So now Raleigh is considering a team curfew.
Speaker 1: So that all it does is fuck it up the rest.
Speaker 1: So say you're one of those people. I've known people,
Speaker 1: I've done it some myself. I go out twelve one
Speaker 1: in the morning and I like it because it's quiet.
Speaker 1: You know, there's something about they say the witching hours
Speaker 1: between twelve and three. It's really calm and the energy
Speaker 1: is different, and you know you can kind of like
Speaker 1: get some solitude even in a busy area I like
Speaker 1: going to but it'll eventually because of this dumb shit,
Speaker 1: get to where you can't even leave your fucking home
Speaker 1: after dark. You didn't do anything, but now you're being
Speaker 1: affected by these blanket policies that are being put in
Speaker 1: because that's what they always do. Instead of holding individuals accountable,
Speaker 1: which I hate this in the workplace. It drives me
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. Instead of holding individuals accountable for their bad
Speaker 1: behavior or whatever they want to do, be lazy and
Speaker 1: throw out these blanket policies for everyone to go under
Speaker 1: or to change the rule for everyone, and it just
Speaker 1: fucks it up for the rest of us, and I
Speaker 1: hate that.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think a lot of people are asking, like,
Speaker 2: why are so many teenagers partici painting in these like
Speaker 2: street takeovers, these reckless group events, and a lot of
Speaker 2: folks immediately so social media, and I do believe that
Speaker 2: that is like a driving factor. It's like an accelerant
Speaker 2: if you will. But here's the thing, Dylan, social media
Speaker 2: does not create board teenagers. It actually just gives them
Speaker 2: a place to get together. And I think for generations,
Speaker 2: you know, teenagers, we've uh and I see we because
Speaker 2: our generation seems to be kind of some of the
Speaker 2: last to do this. You know, we spent our free time,
Speaker 2: our summer's earning money. We were cutting grass, we were babysitting,
Speaker 2: bagging groceries, washing dishes, working in fast food. We were
Speaker 2: grocery store stockers, checkout clerks. Right, we had summer jobs,
Speaker 2: which now days I've seen teens and teen parents saying
Speaker 2: it is nearly impossible for teenagers to get jobs, right
Speaker 2: because now all the adults are vuying for those jobs
Speaker 2: that were intended for teenagers because economy, because the economy
Speaker 2: is so bad. And those jobs did more than provides
Speaker 2: spending money for us, if you think about it. I mean,
Speaker 2: we were taught punctuality, getting along with others in a workplace,
Speaker 2: some pubility.
Speaker 1: Uh, the satisfaction of earning a paycheck. It gives you,
Speaker 1: like a certain confidence, got your own mind.
Speaker 2: I remember being a teenager when I had my first
Speaker 2: jobs and getting that paycheck and being able to go
Speaker 2: like to the mall and I could buy whatever I wanted.
Speaker 2: It was your money, my money back, and close CDs
Speaker 2: like it made me feel good, Like I felt like
Speaker 2: I was really doing the damn thing, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And so I do believe that is important
Speaker 2: and that that is missing out. And these kids are
Speaker 2: looking to fill those hours that we spent maybe working
Speaker 2: a job or mowing grandma's lawn or whatever, and so
Speaker 2: we don't have those opportunities anymore. And then you have
Speaker 2: all this unstructured time, and I think, you know, kids
Speaker 2: aren't doing the things that we did. We were lived
Speaker 2: in neighborhoods where we played with other kids, We run
Speaker 2: our bike across town. We had arcades, we had bowling alleys,
Speaker 2: we had skating rinks, and a lot of those places
Speaker 2: have closed, which sadly can be attributed to some of
Speaker 2: the violence that takes place at public pool you know nowadays.
Speaker 2: So you shut down all the things for kids to do.
Speaker 1: We see this in small towns all the day.
Speaker 2: There's nothing to do, right, and when you have nothing
Speaker 2: to do, boredom, all this time on your hands, that
Speaker 2: is going to lead to this kind of thing. So
Speaker 2: when you don't have any kind of structured activities. You
Speaker 2: don't have community sports anymore because I mean as a kid,
Speaker 2: I remember, you know, I filled my time with doing
Speaker 2: a dance class, playing sports, you know, playing little league basketball,
Speaker 2: playing softball. And when I got to high school and
Speaker 2: middle school, you know, you join clubs. You're part of
Speaker 2: different clubs and teams and things like that that helped
Speaker 2: fill your time. You do theater, you sing with the chorus,
Speaker 2: you're in a band. And I just feel like everybody's
Speaker 2: online today, no one's participating in these activities on the
Speaker 2: grand scale like they once did, and you just have
Speaker 2: all this time on your hands. So these teenagers are
Speaker 2: looking for things to do and they see this, Oh
Speaker 2: it's an event for teenagers, They're gonna go, and then
Speaker 2: it turns into chaos.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, because there's truly no organization or anything like
Speaker 1: that too. There's no supervision, there's no controls there. You know,
Speaker 1: when you have a big event, a concert or something
Speaker 1: like that, you have ambulances on site in case of
Speaker 1: an accident or some you know, some kind of stampede.
Speaker 1: You never know what's going to happen. You have extra
Speaker 1: police for you know, police presence as well for security,
Speaker 1: private security. You have all these things you have to
Speaker 1: do if you organize a big event that's not being
Speaker 1: done at all. And another aspect, another leg of what
Speaker 1: you're describing, I think is real world consequences. You have
Speaker 1: these young people living online where you can do things
Speaker 1: like if I go online and I see someone and
Speaker 1: I say, oh, you're a stupid, fat piece of shit,
Speaker 1: nothing's gonna happen. What they're gonna do, right, The best
Speaker 1: they can do is say some sly shit back to me.
Speaker 1: It makes me look dumb in the comments section. In
Speaker 1: the real world, that guy can punch me in the
Speaker 1: fucking nose, right, So there's the real world consequence. So
Speaker 1: they live so much of their time in these online wherever,
Speaker 1: you know, these virtual worlds, that when they do end
Speaker 1: up in the real world in a situation, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure many of these teens quote unquote teens end up
Speaker 1: scared when they're end up in this fray, in this
Speaker 1: big group that has no direction, security or anything, and
Speaker 1: the shit goes sideways. I'm sure they are getting fucking
Speaker 1: scared and traumatized. I wish I hadn't even came by
Speaker 1: this and that, but this is this is what happens
Speaker 1: in real life. There's real world consequences, and I don't
Speaker 1: think they're not thinking about that. Well, yeah, and it
Speaker 1: starts out. I'm sure most of them don't say, hey,
Speaker 1: let's go down there and start to fight and shoot guns. No,
Speaker 1: most of them were like, Hey, this is going to
Speaker 1: be cool. It's going to be a part of this thing.
Speaker 1: Let me record it, put it on my snapchat, put
Speaker 1: it on my story or whatever. But then you have
Speaker 1: the bad apples, which is always bad apples, and groups
Speaker 1: of humans. There's always bad apples, and they're the ones
Speaker 1: who do the crazy shit. And then the rest of
Speaker 1: it is just pure mayhem because there's no structure or organization.
Speaker 2: Well, I know there are people out there who could
Speaker 2: be listening, like, well, you know a lot of people
Speaker 2: live in poverty, their single family homes, and they struggle
Speaker 2: to make ends, me much less be able to afford
Speaker 2: dance lessons or traveling ball or music lessons whatever. And
Speaker 2: I understand that. I mean I grew up poor and
Speaker 2: being able to take dance class was like a big deal.
Speaker 2: I mean I remember my parents like that was a
Speaker 2: special kind of thing, and them working hard to be
Speaker 2: able to pay for me to go to my dance
Speaker 2: class and get my tap shoes and buy my recital
Speaker 2: costume or whatever. It wasn't like I take that lightly.
Speaker 2: And I've been a single parent.
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 2: Man, it's hard, and you've got kids doing sports or
Speaker 2: something you can't afford to go drop hundreds of dollars
Speaker 2: every couple of months on cleats or shoes, track, spikes whatever.
Speaker 1: A six hundred dollars bat for a damn eight year old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I remember in high school, you know,
Speaker 2: it was like my parents were divorced and all that,
Speaker 2: and so when it would come time for like buying,
Speaker 2: I had to buy basketball shoes.
Speaker 1: I ran track.
Speaker 2: I was a sprinter, so I had track. I had
Speaker 2: spikes that I ran in, which are you know, different
Speaker 2: from just a regular pre of tennis shoes. I ran
Speaker 2: cross country. I mean, and you kind of have to
Speaker 2: like have these certain things for each sport, and it's
Speaker 2: expensive and a lot of people can't afford that. But
Speaker 2: I think people also failed to realize, you know, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of options out there, and you know, you
Speaker 2: may not be church going, but church offers a good
Speaker 2: place for kids to be able to socialize and have events,
Speaker 2: you know, youth groups and they go on track and
Speaker 2: a lot of times, like you don't even have to
Speaker 2: pay for those. I remember going on church youth group
Speaker 2: trips as a kid to like the Outer Banks of
Speaker 2: North Carolina, and I've never been to the Outer Banks,
Speaker 2: and it was really cool and going to you know,
Speaker 2: like this Baptist kind of camp or whatever for the
Speaker 2: summer with my church, and it was free. It was
Speaker 2: paid for like the church they were able to pay
Speaker 2: for it out of their coffers or raise money to
Speaker 2: send us to this camp. And a lot of the
Speaker 2: kids who went did it come for money, didn't have money.
Speaker 2: Most communities, especially if you're in a rural area like
Speaker 2: in the South even the Midwest, have four h clubs
Speaker 2: that are offered through the county and it's free, you know,
Speaker 2: the Boys and Girls clubs, the Big Brothers and Big Sisters,
Speaker 2: and so there are these resources available that I feel
Speaker 2: like maybe people took more advantage of back in the day,
Speaker 2: and nowadays we're a little more wary because you hear
Speaker 2: these stories of like Scout troop leaders and perverts at
Speaker 2: the church or whatever, and that is a problem and
Speaker 2: we should be concerned about that. But I also feel
Speaker 2: like you can't raise your kids in a bubble just
Speaker 2: because you fear something bad's going to happen to them,
Speaker 2: because something bad could happen anytime, anywhere.
Speaker 1: Well, no, that happened to us a large scale when
Speaker 1: we were growing up, with the kidnappers, with the Adam
Speaker 1: Walsh stories and things like that, and the oh, you
Speaker 1: can't even let your kid go to toyau now when
Speaker 1: you're you know, when you're doing your shopping in the store,
Speaker 1: because I used to go kick in the toy odd
Speaker 1: and I was never under my mom's I was never
Speaker 1: right there with her when she was a child. But
Speaker 1: you know where I'm going to be toy.
Speaker 2: All and yeah, I remember being able to just go freely.
Speaker 1: Yeah and play you know. Look. But what I also
Speaker 1: didn't do was destroy the toyau. I didn't tear packages open,
Speaker 1: I didn't wreck it. I just looked and if it
Speaker 1: was something I could, you know, hold for a minute
Speaker 1: or I would, but put it back. I still had manners.
Speaker 1: See that that's something that seems to be missing as well.
Speaker 1: And you'd see the kids acting a full getting a
Speaker 1: bike out and riding it up down the aisle, and
Speaker 1: I would never do anything like that. But you know,
Speaker 1: we got that where it started chipping away at that.
Speaker 1: Letting your kids go out of your site with no phone,
Speaker 1: no communication, trusting them to be mature enough to do
Speaker 1: the right thing, not harm neighbors property, not talk crazy
Speaker 1: to adults, not cause any kind of problem at all,
Speaker 1: because if you did and it made it, it would
Speaker 1: always make it back to your parents and they would
Speaker 1: bust your ass. The parents wouldn't ask you what those
Speaker 1: people did to you. They would always start with what
Speaker 1: did you do? What did you do to cause a problem?
Speaker 1: Did you what did you do to make that adult
Speaker 1: notice you in the first I mean that's where that's
Speaker 1: where the conversation would always start. But yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with you. Oh you're making some great pay.
Speaker 2: You know, libraries, public libraries, they offer events for kids.
Speaker 1: Community centers, diferent community centers. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: And when I mentioned four h you know that's not
Speaker 2: just for farm kids who have a cow they want
Speaker 2: to show up the fair. Anybody can join for age
Speaker 2: and they and they teach kids' life skills and how.
Speaker 1: To grow a garden.
Speaker 2: I remember when I was a journalist interviewing the the
Speaker 2: four ah person you know back in my county, and
Speaker 2: they would do sewing classes, cooking classes, they were teaching coding.
Speaker 1: To kids.
Speaker 2: They had like h FEML like coding classes, like teaching
Speaker 2: kids to build websites, teaching them practical skills. So I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, like we as a society have to consider
Speaker 2: these teenagers. We have to get them off their phones
Speaker 2: and get them engaged in some activities. Whether that means
Speaker 2: we need to be able to get them part time
Speaker 2: jobs where they can be out in the world learning skills,
Speaker 2: making a little money. Socializing was that. Remember as a teenager,
Speaker 2: going to work was.
Speaker 1: Fun, right, You worked with other people your age.
Speaker 2: I got to meet people from other high schools, and
Speaker 2: I remember thinking it was like fun because when you
Speaker 2: went to work, you were arounded by people of your
Speaker 2: own age, and there was a lot of cutting up
Speaker 2: and goofing off, and you kind of had friends at
Speaker 2: work and it made time go by faster and it
Speaker 2: wasn't so bad.
Speaker 1: But back then, you know, there were tire haired worker
Speaker 1: had a fat pension because they worked somewhere for thirty
Speaker 1: thirty five years that had are a comfortable pension. Between
Speaker 1: that and their soci security they could they could actually
Speaker 1: retire and enjoy their life now with the absence of
Speaker 1: true pensions, and we're all left with a four to
Speaker 1: one k that may or may not be there. You
Speaker 1: have those same retirees having to go work those jobs,
Speaker 1: part time jobs in those same fields that you're describing.
Speaker 1: You have people don't want to admit it. You have
Speaker 1: legal immigrants taking some of those jobs that you know
Speaker 1: these young people could be taking. It's just, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many factors at play here that this is
Speaker 1: the symptom of all these things. It's all culminating now
Speaker 1: in a way that people seem to not understand as
Speaker 1: to why it's happening. But I've seen these things. I'm
Speaker 1: almost fifty. I've been seeing these things come and grow
Speaker 1: in these societal pressures to just keep on and on.
Speaker 1: And it seems like back in the day, I know
Speaker 1: we say that all the time, but it seems like
Speaker 1: they would be addressed, or there at least be a
Speaker 1: conversation about, hey, this is happening now, how do we
Speaker 1: make it better?
Speaker 2: All you hear is about progress and how you know,
Speaker 2: we need to make things better than they were. But honestly,
Speaker 2: things were better, they were better before. In many ways,
Speaker 2: progress we've been seeing is not making things better.
Speaker 1: It's not progress because.
Speaker 2: We're where we are right now in the world. I
Speaker 2: hate to say it, but this is where it's not good.
Speaker 2: This is the bad place.
Speaker 1: This isn't good.
Speaker 2: Thirty years ago, twenty years ago, I didn't think that
Speaker 2: about society. I didn't think like, wow, we are living
Speaker 2: in some ship. But we're living in some ship right now.
Speaker 2: And so unless we figure this out, it's just going
Speaker 2: to continue. Just like I said, with the crime that
Speaker 2: is just being allowed to happen just in the streets
Speaker 2: with no consequence, and until we get a cap on that,
Speaker 2: we're headed toward a dangerous place. And if we keep
Speaker 2: allowing these team takeovers where it's just gonna keep getting worse,
Speaker 2: you're gonna keep having shootings, kids getting killed, illegal you know,
Speaker 2: illegal guns in the streets. So we really have to
Speaker 2: stop and pause and be like, is all this progress
Speaker 2: that we've been making really working, because it does seem
Speaker 2: like things have gotten worse for us. And I hate
Speaker 2: to be all preachy preachy, but we talk about crime here,
Speaker 2: and it's fairly obvious to me that crime does seem
Speaker 2: to be like getting worse. Right, even when they tell
Speaker 2: us it's getting better, I don't see that when.
Speaker 1: They say it's getting better statistically that typically they've just
Speaker 1: reclassified the crimes into different categories. So the crime is
Speaker 1: still happening, right, your hat car, your house still getting
Speaker 1: broke into, but now they call it something else, bly
Speaker 1: this and that. Very seldom does crime just sharply drop
Speaker 1: off from quarter to quarter, all right, without some bullshits
Speaker 1: statistical maneuveral.
Speaker 2: This is not to say that juveniles haven't always participated
Speaker 2: in like unsavory activities or you know, have have done
Speaker 2: kind of like bad stuff. I mean, you know, you
Speaker 2: get the juvenile delinquent image from the nineteen fifties, the
Speaker 2: rebel without a cause, you know, the little the greaser
Speaker 2: kids whatever. You know, when we were growing up in
Speaker 2: like the eighties and the in the late seventies and
Speaker 2: the early eighties and into the nineties, it was like
Speaker 2: you had these gangs, like youth gangs causing problems. I mean,
Speaker 2: you've had this stuff happening always, But I don't feel
Speaker 2: like you had the violence on the scale you do
Speaker 2: today involving teenagers. I just can't imagine as a kid
Speaker 2: living in today's world and how scary it must be.
Speaker 2: And also, can you imagine when we were that age,
Speaker 2: Dylan fearing going to like a public event because someone
Speaker 2: might pull out a I didn't start shooting. I mean,
Speaker 2: and I know I grew up in the South and
Speaker 2: in the mountains and around a bunch of country kids.
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember boys. I say, and I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to be like sexist, but it was just mostly
Speaker 2: the boys. They would have a gun rack in the
Speaker 2: back of their pickup truck in a school parking lot
Speaker 2: with like a rifle and a shotgun because they hunted,
Speaker 2: or they lived on a farm, and they would have
Speaker 2: that on school property and it was like not a
Speaker 2: big deal. They all carried a knife.
Speaker 1: Everybody had a pocket everybody had a pocket knife.
Speaker 2: Nobody was stabbing anybody at school. No nobody shot anybody
Speaker 2: at school. They would teach a guns safety classes to kids.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a whole thing. So they had
Speaker 2: access to guns. It's not like, well, we just didn't
Speaker 2: have access to guns back then, because we absolutely did.
Speaker 2: And a lot of people grew up in a home
Speaker 2: where guns were prevalent.
Speaker 1: You hunted, you.
Speaker 2: Fished, I mean, Like I've said before, I grew up
Speaker 2: in the in a damn country, redneck family where everybody
Speaker 2: was hunting, coon hunting, dog you got damn hound dogs.
Speaker 2: He's bear hunting, he's squirrel hunting. There's turkey hunting, there's
Speaker 2: deer hunting. Somebody was always doing some kind of hunting, right,
Speaker 2: And I grew up with a damn arsenal of guns around.
Speaker 1: All the damn time. Your mama out hunting your daddy
Speaker 1: up and well she.
Speaker 2: Did that at a time or two as well before
Speaker 2: they got divorced. Hell, my granny loved to go hunting
Speaker 2: down my papeole.
Speaker 1: She was.
Speaker 2: That's a story for another time. But my nanny, for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, was always convinced that my papa was cheating
Speaker 2: on her. When he would be hunting and he'd be
Speaker 2: with my dad and my uncle and they would go hunting,
Speaker 2: and she'd be like, in the wood. She would like
Speaker 2: to make me go around looking for him because she
Speaker 2: was convinced. This is how crazy she was. I love
Speaker 2: the woman, she was my best friend and I miss
Speaker 2: her every day. But she'd be like, I bet you
Speaker 2: he's down there at that apartment with that old woman.
Speaker 2: There was this lady who waited tables at this breakfast
Speaker 2: joint that they went to every morning they ate breakfast here,
Speaker 2: and she was convinced that my papa on this waitress
Speaker 2: had this thing.
Speaker 1: Going on shew where she lived.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I remember we would drive by that
Speaker 2: woman's house and she'd be like, is this car?
Speaker 1: There is this truck there.
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you kidneys in the woods somewhere with
Speaker 2: a damn law they're lost dogs in the woods and
Speaker 2: they're trying to track down a bunch of damn hound dogs.
Speaker 2: And what are you talking?
Speaker 1: Because this man's been waiting for opening day of hunting
Speaker 1: whatever hunting season.
Speaker 2: The entire day they've been waiting to train these dogs.
Speaker 2: They're in the woods shooting at coons, tree and coons raccoons,
Speaker 2: you know, which is a thing people like to go
Speaker 2: raccoon hunting, which is like weird, but I've done it before.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like, so we've always had access
Speaker 2: to guns, but I just can't imagine, you know, fearing
Speaker 2: that I'm going to the prom Saturday night and somebody
Speaker 2: could pull out a gun and start shooting.
Speaker 1: Well, see, the guns and knives were always there, even
Speaker 1: more so I would say in many instances depend on
Speaker 1: where you grew up, obviously, but the willingness of your
Speaker 1: fellow student to want to harm you, that's what wasn't there, right.
Speaker 1: And that's not to say I remember calling by changed
Speaker 1: this country.
Speaker 2: It definitely did, But even.
Speaker 1: After Columbine, I still didn't carry which I was. I
Speaker 1: was older, and I was out of school when I
Speaker 1: basically got out of school. But I don't remember parents
Speaker 1: and everyone fearing that that was that was a one off,
Speaker 1: that was an outlier, that was something totally uh for
Speaker 1: whatever reason. And we spent many as a society of
Speaker 1: discussions and trying to figure out why. But it was just,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, someone was these two kids or something
Speaker 1: was really wrong with them. And then I hate Mondays
Speaker 1: obviously goes back even further than that. That girl Brenda,
Speaker 1: she shot shot the elementary school up from her across
Speaker 1: from her house. So I mean, it's not like it
Speaker 1: was never there, the idea of it, but it just
Speaker 1: didn't happen on such a mass scale, and you have
Speaker 1: to ask yourself why what changed so much? I have
Speaker 1: some ideas, we'll go into it some other time. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's organic I'll say that I don't. In
Speaker 1: many instances, I think it's it's not organic, it's not
Speaker 1: just happening. Could it be all the medicines and things
Speaker 1: that we take nowadays? Some people think yes, I mean, gosh,
Speaker 1: they can't make a thing for toenail fungus without it
Speaker 1: causing suicidal thoughts and ideations. It's like, do you have
Speaker 1: y'all come across any group of medicines that doesn't cause
Speaker 1: suicidal thoughts, because that's every fucking hop hour.
Speaker 2: The medication has the most strange side effects as well,
Speaker 2: like oh, you could experience anal leakage, and it's like
Speaker 2: this is a cholesterol medicines, I'll just have high anyway,
Speaker 2: All right, let's bring this Homeheather.
Speaker 1: We'll leave him with a Yeah. So I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I don't know if curfews are the answer. I mean,
Speaker 2: part of me things good solution. But at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, my thought is where are the parents
Speaker 2: when all this is going on?
Speaker 1: Whether that that is also a huge factor in this because.
Speaker 2: If I had said, like my mom, I'm going to
Speaker 2: a team takeover in downtown, it would have been no,
Speaker 2: you're not well. See, that's the thing My parents wanted
Speaker 2: to know where I was, who I was with, when
Speaker 2: I'm going to be home, who I was going to
Speaker 2: be there.
Speaker 1: Your parents gave you a curfew. You didn't need the yes,
Speaker 1: you didn't need the local municipality.
Speaker 2: There was no tomfoolery. And I know for generations kids
Speaker 2: have lie to their parents about what they're round about doing.
Speaker 2: But I guess I just had the fear of God
Speaker 2: in me because I did not. If I said I
Speaker 2: was going to this place, that's where I went. I
Speaker 2: knew better.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do anything.
Speaker 2: I knew better than to pull some shenanigans because I
Speaker 2: knew what the repercussions were going to be. So again,
Speaker 2: I just think, where are the parents when all this
Speaker 2: is happening? It's it's there's all these there's a lot
Speaker 2: of factors. I think parenting, I think social media boredom.
Speaker 2: So when people, especially when I say people like politicians
Speaker 2: are standing around scratching their heads.
Speaker 1: Like what's happening?
Speaker 2: What? What can we do to fix this? Why is
Speaker 2: this happening? It's like you stupid because I'm just as
Speaker 2: a regular person and I can give you ten reasons
Speaker 2: why it's happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, bring back the know this doesn't have to We.
Speaker 2: Don't have to invest forty million dollars in study to
Speaker 2: figure out why this is happening.
Speaker 1: No, bring back the middle class. Support it through policies
Speaker 1: that bring in good jobs, consumer protections, all these things
Speaker 1: that protect the citizen from the system, and you're going
Speaker 1: to magically see that as these good jobs and things
Speaker 1: like the economy are real economy, not this bullshit that's
Speaker 1: just measured by the stock marketing market. Yeah, that really
Speaker 1: was not a thing back in the day either. The
Speaker 1: health of companies was viewed about how happy their workers
Speaker 1: were and how you know, productive they were and things
Speaker 1: like that. But so, yeah, it's not it's ridiculous. So
Speaker 1: that's what leads me to believe it's intentional. This is
Speaker 1: what they want while they live in their ivory towers
Speaker 1: behind their gates, and they can. I mean, gosh, I
Speaker 1: always say and.
Speaker 2: Tell you this is normal. This is part of living
Speaker 2: in a city.
Speaker 1: Suck it up and deal with it. Yeah, it's Elysium.
Speaker 1: If you don't never seen that movie, go watch that movie.
Speaker 1: There's been many like it. But I think it really
Speaker 1: it really just lays out the elites versus us, and
Speaker 1: that's what they want.
Speaker 2: It goes back to like lords and serfs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can't tell, we're headed back to a
Speaker 1: serfdom and that's what they want. I don't know what
Speaker 1: to tell you, because all they tell you is you'll
Speaker 1: own nothing and like it is basically their attitude.
Speaker 2: And you will deal with this crime and you'll like it.
Speaker 1: You have a pay as you go. You have young
Speaker 1: people that are doing pay as you go for to
Speaker 1: order a pizza. They're breaking up a twenty five dollars
Speaker 1: pizza order into payment for payment with interest, with interest.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about that. All right, let's wrap this up.
Speaker 1: That's called Caesars.
Speaker 2: Ain't got their five dollar pizza no more.
Speaker 1: We'll wrap this up, and we hope we didn't preach
Speaker 1: too much. But I think it was an interesting conversation.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm passionate sometimes, Dylan. I can't help myself.
Speaker 1: Lots of PBS people know that.
Speaker 2: I think our listeners know that we're both very passionate individuals.
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, it's because I care.
Speaker 2: Because I really do care so much about the world
Speaker 2: we live in. I care about my neighbors, I care
Speaker 2: about my community. I care about my country, I care
Speaker 2: about people, and I just want the best for people.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to live in a society where
Speaker 2: we're all afraid all the time and stressed out and
Speaker 2: everything sucks and we're all miserable and we're all like
Speaker 2: hanging on by a thread, about to fucking lose it,
Speaker 2: because we all are. Let's be honest. I don't know
Speaker 2: anybody who's like, I'm so happy, my life is great,
Speaker 2: and I really want to get to a point where
Speaker 2: I feel just bliss. But it's hard, you know, And
Speaker 2: you can't turn the mind out of these things. And
Speaker 2: I just want what's best for the world and for people,
Speaker 2: and I just we have got to get a handle
Speaker 2: on some of this stuff.
Speaker 1: And it's on us. We're the only ones that are
Speaker 1: going to do it, do the right thing, what's best
Speaker 1: for us. We need a mountain Murder's army.
Speaker 2: We gotta raise up and do better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and stand together and just put your shirt above
Speaker 1: your head and wave it like a helicopter, not your penis.
Speaker 2: Yes, and if you see some weirdo doing some weird
Speaker 2: shit in public, grab you a couple of friends and
Speaker 2: remedy that situation. We're going to get a handle on it.
Speaker 2: Bring shame back, yes, get a bell, walk them through
Speaker 2: the streets. Shame, shame, shame, shame.
Speaker 1: All right, So you guys, I love you.
Speaker 2: We're sorry that we are like this.
Speaker 1: No, it's okay. I can't help it, and I will
Speaker 1: go do my part for society in a little bit
Speaker 1: and move your products through our logistics system. This is
Speaker 1: my part, is what I do.
Speaker 2: This is what I do is I try to spread
Speaker 2: a message.
Speaker 1: Okay, the message of your people, the message of my people.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe my message is not clear, maybe my message
Speaker 2: which gets misconstrued. Maybe people don't like my message. But
Speaker 2: that's all I got, folks, is a mouth. And people
Speaker 2: ask what did that mouth do? And I tell them
Speaker 2: it podcasts.
Speaker 1: It sure is a mouth. It podcasts. All right. So
Speaker 1: until next time Heather has this.
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Speaker 2: like three or four cases I'm working on right Dylan,
Speaker 2: And they're all just doozies, man, Okay, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: And of course it's so important to remember victims in
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Speaker 1: And don't I'm gonna be in this chair waiting.
Speaker 2: Don't let the perverts parade, not kick their ass. Do
Speaker 2: not wave your genitals at people in public places.
Speaker 1: Only if they want to.
Speaker 2: Do not cut them off instead. I mean, I just
Speaker 2: can't imagine I've cut off my titty and set it
Speaker 2: on fire in the garage.
Speaker 1: Please help, Oh my god, hold titty.
Speaker 2: Bar is a left one. It's my least favorite titty.
Speaker 2: It keeps getting in the way you're gonna keep your
Speaker 2: f It's a lazy titty. It's the one that always
Speaker 2: like rolls up under my arm, but when I'm sleeping.
Speaker 1: It's got a lazy titty.
Speaker 2: I got lazy titty, all right. Bye Dylan, Bye,