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<v Speaker 1>Hey, y'all, welcome back to Mountain Murders sometime this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Heather and I'm Dylan. Hello, Dylan, Hey girl, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you? My head is spinning from all the news

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<v Speaker 1>that's flooding into it this morning. Like there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 2>There is so much going on this week, Dylan, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is why we are calling this episode perverts on Parade.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh God.

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<v Speaker 2>For some reason, summer seems to bring out the weirdos.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking my kids to that parade.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, some people will refuse. They're like, oh, look a

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<v Speaker 2>man pissing in another man's mouth. My children should be

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<v Speaker 2>exposed to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Perverts on Parade. Yes, we have a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of perverts. O.

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<v Speaker 1>Lindsey Graham died today. Well he did apparently of a

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<v Speaker 1>brief sudden illness aka but stuff. Yeah, I mean maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that. No one's said it wasn't but stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Lindsay Graham. I'm telling y'all he is a closeted freak

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<v Speaker 2>with a bloodlust. He wants us to bomb children. I

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<v Speaker 2>do think, well, he does butt stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think he is I think he's a homosexual man.

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<v Speaker 2>I do lady g I think he is the news

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<v Speaker 2>broke some years ago, and I don't care if he's

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<v Speaker 2>a gay man.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't. Well, I care more if you never

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<v Speaker 1>admit want to like be your true authentic self.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's I guess That's where I'm at with Lindsay

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<v Speaker 2>Graham is you know, he's done some shitty things in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion as an elected official. I'm not really sure

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<v Speaker 2>how this man continues to be elected in South Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>kind of blows my mind. I definitely don't like his

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<v Speaker 2>attitude on what is happening right now in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>He definitely supports Israel and does not see a problem

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<v Speaker 2>with genocide. He actually champions it. He wants children to

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<v Speaker 2>be murdered. He gets I don't understand that part. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess we shouldn't get into all that political nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he has a gleam in his eye when he

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<v Speaker 1>talks about him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that sounds disturbing. And on top of it, you

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<v Speaker 2>know he's conservative, but also I think is a closeted

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<v Speaker 2>homosexual and be a freak, Lindsay. If you're a freak,

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<v Speaker 2>your freak flag fly. But I guess it's like the

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<v Speaker 2>hypocrisy right always gets me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it pisses me off, especially when you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>position like that. And my thing is, even before I

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<v Speaker 1>come to reside in this upstate or in South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>every time I saw Lindsey Graham and the news on

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<v Speaker 1>the TV anywhere, the words what's best for South Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>never ever came out of his mouth. It was always

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<v Speaker 1>some shit about some other policy that has nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with South Carolina or making South Carolina better for

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<v Speaker 1>the people who live here.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants to have butt sex with foreign policy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it. Care if he wants to have butt sex.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people have butt sex. They like it,

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<v Speaker 2>they get up in it, and they really love it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is great. Some of our listeners might like

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<v Speaker 2>butt stuff. More power to you, Okay, But Lindsey, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>in my heart of heart stilling that he died doing

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<v Speaker 2>butt stuff and there might have been substances evolved. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all I'm going to say now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Well, as one of our Discord fan pointed out,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they're said they're hinting at maybe a heart attack

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<v Speaker 1>or do this or that. But something just seems off

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<v Speaker 1>to me about just to turn the phrase like if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a heart attack, while we say a we think

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<v Speaker 1>he died of a heart attack, but we'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait till the autopsy, all right, But which is usually

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<v Speaker 1>how they word stuff like that. But the phrase brief

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<v Speaker 1>sudden illness is just a very strange string of words

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<v Speaker 1>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone hit that vagus nerve while he was doing butt stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Homeboy had a heart art attack. He was probably all

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<v Speaker 2>hopped up on something partying. I'm telling you, I think

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<v Speaker 2>Lindsay's a freak.

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<v Speaker 1>Allegedly. We don't know any of this to be true.

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<v Speaker 2>And what was the thing a while back where he

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<v Speaker 2>was at like Disney World by himself, but he was

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<v Speaker 2>wearing like business casual at Disney, Like who goes to

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<v Speaker 2>Disney wearing like a tie? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Lindsay Graham did very strange. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>At the same time, Lindsey Graham bashing for Today.

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<v Speaker 1>At the same time, my heart felt condolences to his

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<v Speaker 1>friends and family because there are people that liked him

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<v Speaker 1>seventy one and I hate that they're having to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with this. You know, it's not the exit. He wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make the exit. The exit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we definitely know Lindsay didn't have an exit only

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Look, yeah, well are you going to call this episode?

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<v Speaker 1>But stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's perverts on parade. That's why we had to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Lindsay at the top of the top of

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<v Speaker 2>the charts here, Bud all right speaking of perverts and

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<v Speaker 2>just fucked up shit, didn't. We have got to discuss

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<v Speaker 2>this because it has blown my mind. The more I

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<v Speaker 2>read about this case that is unfolding in Ohio, the

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<v Speaker 2>more my brain just starts to kind of melt and

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wrap my head around it. Who are these people?

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is this happening? What the fuck is going on

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<v Speaker 2>in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I briefly saw that when this headline broke, but I

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<v Speaker 1>never really had a chance to dig into it. And

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday you were just telling me everything you told me

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<v Speaker 1>about this case. I mean, it just doesn't it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even sound like it could be real. A story has.

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<v Speaker 2>Broken about an Ohio family. And when I say family,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a young like a younger couple, Gary Siders Junior

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<v Speaker 2>and his wife Elizabeth, and then Gary's.

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<v Speaker 1>Parents who are obviously elderly. Okay, they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Living in a home with sixteen children that have been

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<v Speaker 2>described as quote A most feral. These children were living

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<v Speaker 2>in a feces infested home. And this all unfolded because

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Saters Junior, thirty six, began exposing himself to people

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<v Speaker 2>outside the Ohio hellhole last month in May. At least,

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<v Speaker 2>I say, last month, we're in July. Where's my braide?

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<v Speaker 1>In May?

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<v Speaker 2>So two months ago, I apologize. Monday's just run together.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still in the month of June.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't want even.

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<v Speaker 2>Though the fourth of July just happened. Now, okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>dude is waving his wider at people.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in May.

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<v Speaker 2>At least four times he flashed his private parts on

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty third, the twenty seventh, the twenty ninth, and

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<v Speaker 2>the thirty first, According to these court documents, That criminal

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<v Speaker 2>complaint was filed on June thirtieth, the same day that

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<v Speaker 2>authorities executed a search warrant that exposed the deplorable Squalor

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<v Speaker 2>that he, his wife, his parents were living and that

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<v Speaker 2>they allegedly kept the children in sixteen children. Now, authorities

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea that the sixteen almost feral kids were

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<v Speaker 2>in the Vinton County, Ohio home when they arrived to

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<v Speaker 2>serve ciders with this warrant for his arrest. Dylan, the

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<v Speaker 2>conditions of this home I just cannot even believe. So

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<v Speaker 2>the kids were kept isolated in a twelve by twelve

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<v Speaker 2>foot room that was littered with human waste and other garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the children couldn't even speak, according to Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney General Andy Wilson, So.

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<v Speaker 1>These are sixteen victims being basically tortured on the daily basis,

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<v Speaker 1>being held captive, if you will, in a twelve by

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<v Speaker 1>twelve room that alone is really hard to even contemplate.

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<v Speaker 2>They looked almost like feral animals, it has been described.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we're talking about like reading, writing, and education,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this whole other level of expectations here because these kids,

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<v Speaker 2>including the eighteen year old, can't even spell her name.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them cannot speak or do not speak.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one thing we were wondering, and it certainly

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like these children have been kept outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>system completely, possibly even birth at home, because you have

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine that if you have baby after baby in

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<v Speaker 1>a hospital and then once you know, have the birth certificate,

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<v Speaker 1>there's you know, you have an expectation of when they

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<v Speaker 1>get a certain age, they have to be going to school,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to come to doctor's appointments, they need immunizations

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. And if a kid just falls

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<v Speaker 1>off a map, you would expect that someone would look

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<v Speaker 1>for them in some capacity.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, but on the other like the other side

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<v Speaker 2>of that, on the other token here, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that would necessarily be true because these people were

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to just slide on through the system because the

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<v Speaker 2>system was not aware. It seems that there were sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>children in this home, So just very strange. Dylan so Siders,

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<v Speaker 2>his wife Elizabeth, who's thirty three, and his parents, Gary

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<v Speaker 2>Senior seventy three and Christina sixty six, were arrested and

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<v Speaker 2>faced multiple charges of endangering children. Gary Siders Junior was

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen years old and had only finished ninth grade when

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<v Speaker 2>he married Elizabeth back in two thousand and eight. She

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<v Speaker 2>was fifteen at the time. And this is according to

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<v Speaker 2>records in Mason County, West Virginia. Y'all, the Siders family

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<v Speaker 2>is not doing West Virginia many favors here. You're just

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<v Speaker 2>perpetuating stereotypes. And I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't like that, but we all know that

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<v Speaker 1>West Virginia is a great place and have many, many

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<v Speaker 1>great people there.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so don't let these people soil your idea

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<v Speaker 2>of a beautiful state.

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<v Speaker 1>But we do know on the national stage that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be snickered at. They're gonna make the incest jokes they've

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<v Speaker 1>always done about Mountain fog. They took her baby. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna take her baby and the taco bell drive

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<v Speaker 1>through a pretty tootys iris if you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, fuck that. We know. West Virginia rocks, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's beautiful and it's full of very smart people who

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<v Speaker 1>can indeed spell their names.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's shout out to Lisa. They're now eighteen year

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<v Speaker 2>old was born two months after the marriage. Children age sixteen, fifteen, fourteen, thirteen, eleven, ten, eight,

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<v Speaker 2>six five, along with four year old twins, two year

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<v Speaker 2>old twins, and one year old twins were found in

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<v Speaker 2>the squalid home. And remember there was an eighteen year

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<v Speaker 2>old as well. Seven of the children were hospitalized in

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<v Speaker 2>the Columbus area, including two who were taken to trauma centers.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those children was listed in critical condition and

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<v Speaker 2>had to be intubated.

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<v Speaker 1>My God, which which is in this Basically, they're breathing

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<v Speaker 1>for that's a tube down your throat so they can

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you are a lovely medical professional. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>explaining that to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan and I did not realize it because I could not,

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<v Speaker 1>for the life of me, figure out how we got

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<v Speaker 1>to sixteen kids given the age of the parents involved

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<v Speaker 1>three sets of twins.

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<v Speaker 2>What in the hell she'd been marked in them baby

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<v Speaker 2>since she was fifteen?

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is pitiful.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not really sure what this woman's story,

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth Cider's story is. Her attorney has come out and said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she is not an evil person.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is just some backwoods ignorance

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<v Speaker 2>But witnesses who've interacted with the couple, Old Junior and

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<v Speaker 2>his wife Elizabeth, have said she was like a very meek,

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<v Speaker 2>mild you know, a stare at the ground, didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like she possibly could be a victim in this

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<v Speaker 2>Well. She yeah, like maybe she grew up in a

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<v Speaker 2>feral home as well. I don't know, but all four

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<v Speaker 2>suspects face up to sixteen counts of child endangerment. They

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<v Speaker 2>are on three hundred thousand bonds each and could spend

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<v Speaker 2>a maximum sentence of up to one hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 2>is unclear whether Siers and his wife are the parents

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<v Speaker 2>of all sixteen children at this point, but her attorney

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<v Speaker 2>They are doing court July twenty third. Oh, I'm sorry, senior.

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<v Speaker 2>Senior Junior is doing court on the twenty third for

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<v Speaker 2>his public indecency charges. So, guys a pervert. He has

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<v Speaker 2>all these children that he has kept in this garbage.

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<v Speaker 1>Jump of a home, basically locked away in.

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<v Speaker 2>A cell, horrible conditions. These children are like prisoners. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is honestly, we've been making light of it, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of the most terrific things I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>in a minute. And it's really like I've been deeply

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<v Speaker 2>haunted by it, and the more information that comes out,

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't It's like I just can't even And

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling you yesterday like I couldn't stop thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about the story and how horrible this is. Children do

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<v Speaker 2>not deserve that. No one deserves us.

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<v Speaker 1>No one deserves this. And when you get into their

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<v Speaker 1>borderline feral humans, which I've dug into that stories of

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<v Speaker 1>that nature before, there's some very famous ones out of

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<v Speaker 1>Romania and various other places around the world. So what

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<v Speaker 1>will happen in this case, I do believe is psychologists

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<v Speaker 1>just from a pure clinical you know, just a further

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<v Speaker 1>human knowledge about how we learn about stimulus nurture versus nature.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll want to study and in the end help these children,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, develop to more capable adults. They're going, They're going, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is just this is this type of thing

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<v Speaker 1>that just never happens to humans, right, You're not kept

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<v Speaker 1>like this from birth.

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<v Speaker 2>Not typically, not typically, and it's very atypical abnormal situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that it has not, I mean you've mentioned there

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<v Speaker 2>have been other cases of this time. It's very rare,

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<v Speaker 2>but it has happened in the past, I guess just

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<v Speaker 2>in modern and when I say modern, I'm thinking the

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<v Speaker 2>last ten fifteen years, we haven't really heard of these

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of stories. It's just absolutely heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 1>The only good part is maybe just maybe these children's

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<v Speaker 1>not mare is over, yes, and that they can get

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<v Speaker 1>on the road to recovery and get the help that

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<v Speaker 1>they desperately need and probably every single aspect.

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<v Speaker 2>Of their life, and maybe Gary Junior will stop waving

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<v Speaker 2>his dick at people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean just that type of that's devent behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest of public displays like that, peeping all

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<v Speaker 1>that is very deviant. I think it always leads to

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<v Speaker 1>more dark, dangerous, terrible things. Well, yes, we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's happened to these children. That was my point. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes you wander just given the living conditions. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that right there alone is abuse, obviously physical abuse, emotional abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure you could imagine they're malnourished.

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<v Speaker 2>These children have not been properly fed. They've been kept

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<v Speaker 2>in this room. I'm sure they have a million vitamin deficiencies.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't live in a twelve by twelve room with

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen other people. No, no, I mean no sanitary conditions

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<v Speaker 2>being met. It's very unhealthy. It sounds like there's four,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe five bedrooms in this home.

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<v Speaker 1>One bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably just going down on a limb here, guessing

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<v Speaker 2>it maybe doesn't even work. Who knows, Maybe that's why

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<v Speaker 2>they're shitting the floor. These kids are not outside. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not getting exposed to sunlight, daylight, they have interactions with

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<v Speaker 2>no one outside of the home. No, and there's they've

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<v Speaker 2>never been exposed to the outside world.

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<v Speaker 1>There's stories of members of this household were known to

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<v Speaker 1>come into like a dollar store, a Dollar General store.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you saw this like on social media? Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 1>And what they now? They were known to come in

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<v Speaker 1>right before closed.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this is witnesses.

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<v Speaker 1>This is witnesses accounts, people who knew them in the community.

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<v Speaker 1>They were known to come in right before clothes nine

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine forty five before it closes at ten, to

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<v Speaker 1>a place like the Dollar General. Maybe it was the

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<v Speaker 1>Dollar General. And what they would purchase was kind of odd,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what made it stick out for people is

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<v Speaker 1>they would buy multiple bottles of vegetable oil all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're just like, hey, what are you doing with

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<v Speaker 1>all this vegetable because hey, I get one bottle of it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, lasts of minute in my house depends on

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<v Speaker 1>what you use it for. And they would do this

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<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis, mostly just vegetable.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry when you said that, I just I kept

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<v Speaker 2>thinking Lindsey Graham does but stuff with it Okay, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, diddy, it's not the pink loach or what

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<v Speaker 1>was it, baby ol. So what people came to believe

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<v Speaker 1>this is all This is a very calorie dnse. Surprisingly,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize this calorie dentse shelf stable food item

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<v Speaker 1>that can be used to just get calories into a

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<v Speaker 1>person's body. It's actually used in some organizations worldwide where

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<v Speaker 1>they're fighting malnutrition and things like that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some whatever area of the world. It's actually used to

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<v Speaker 1>get a lot of calories into someone quickly. You take

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<v Speaker 1>it and mix it with some food item to really danse,

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<v Speaker 1>make it calorie dentse, to make it, you know, get

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<v Speaker 1>in and you know, lots of calories in quickly, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's cheap, it's easy, it's easy to ship. So possibly

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know it to be true. But of course

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could figure out. What I'm getting at

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<v Speaker 1>is maybe they were just using this vegetable to keep

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<v Speaker 1>these kids alive without actually giving them real food.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's my nat fucking I mean, well, no, that's

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even want to think about that. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>here's my thing, Dylan. Now, I've seen photos of this

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<v Speaker 2>family and I'm not trying to make fun, but Old

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<v Speaker 2>Senior has like eyes going in like two different directions. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he is exactly how you would imagine someone who would

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<v Speaker 2>keep sixteen children in a room would look like.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this is that, this is this is like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is old Pappy. Okay, okay, Pappy Senior.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. He could be some day he could

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<v Speaker 2>be Daddy Pappy.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know. He's also known as the original the og.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now he has like two like his He's got

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<v Speaker 2>two y's, and I think they're both.

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<v Speaker 1>Real, so good for him. He's cock eyed there, honey.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going in all kinds. I mean, it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>a damn cartoon character. He's got one going left, one

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<v Speaker 2>going right.

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<v Speaker 1>He don't know if he's coming or going. He don't

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<v Speaker 1>because he can't see.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and the sun does not exactly look like the

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<v Speaker 2>brightest bulb in the turning bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, do you really think these people were

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<v Speaker 1>with it enough to know that this is a caloriy

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<v Speaker 1>dense something we can do to keep these kids alive

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<v Speaker 1>on the cheap? Yeah? I do, actually, because all it

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<v Speaker 1>would take is one search for something like how do

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<v Speaker 1>I feed you know, keep sixteen kids alive and without trying,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think maybe cooking all would come up. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, these are people that look like I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know if they know how to do a search. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just being mean. I'm being mean, I know I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Well here's the thing. They were homeowners and we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe you need to take a step back. And

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm assuming that they owned the home or this

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<v Speaker 1>could have went on for this long. Surely at landlord

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<v Speaker 1>by at some point and wonders why.

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<v Speaker 2>The windows is covered and ship, Yeah, there's trash and

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<v Speaker 2>people are.

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<v Speaker 1>Crying and screaming in the next room. So yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming that this was a family home. So we I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a rent. I rent right now. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what does that say about me?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it also says the economy's fucked and most people

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<v Speaker 2>can't buy home right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Prices they did half a million dollars. Yeah, but this

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<v Speaker 2>fucker's old as hell with his damn weird eyes, and

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<v Speaker 2>he probably bought this house in the nineteen sixty and

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<v Speaker 2>paid ten dollars for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan, maybe just fan, Maybe it was given to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he was part of a freak show and he's

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<v Speaker 2>like the the eyeball guy. He can just like make

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<v Speaker 2>them spin around in his head.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not even attacked, they just float around in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I would pay to see that. Sometimes they come out

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<v Speaker 1>of his mouth like pop it back in part of

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<v Speaker 1>his father's estate. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>All I can do is make fun of these people.

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<v Speaker 1>All I can do is make fun of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I still disgusting and horrific, Like you.

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<v Speaker 1>Cry if you really think about it. These poor kids, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's terrible. And then the oldest have been going through

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<v Speaker 1>this for the longest and I don't know. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even write their name.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, Speaking of perverts dealing, a forty

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<v Speaker 2>five year old man has been charged with indecent exposure

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<v Speaker 2>after police say he exposed himself and was captured on

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<v Speaker 2>two different home security cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, is there such saying is decent exposure or could

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<v Speaker 1>we just call it exposure and just know it's indecent?

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<v Speaker 1>These are the things.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to well, I assume everything is decent exposure.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're walking around, you decent and you're public, you're

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<v Speaker 2>decently exposing yourself. Oh okay, all we get to see

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<v Speaker 2>your your knees, maybe your shins, yeah, some ankle, I get.

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<v Speaker 1>Some upper thigh on my shorts. Lately, I've been wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the little shorty shorts because they're back, the five inch

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<v Speaker 1>shorts or the six inch shorts.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know, I've seen you and your little pink shorts.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I feel free when I wear them.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I'm so glad you have a lot of self confidence, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably shouldn't because they honestly haven't lost that much weight.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I guess I have. But yeah, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I'm just going to do it. We'll put

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<v Speaker 1>some pictures up.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to dress provocatively with your voluptuous body doing,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to stop you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what decent exposure looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>You are a lovely curvy man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, we're full of.

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<v Speaker 2>Body positivity around here, unless your eyeballs are going in

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<v Speaker 2>two different directions and you're a pervert and you're weird,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I probably make fun of you. No. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're just a listener and your eyeballs are going

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<v Speaker 2>in different directions, I'm not making fun.

425
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<v Speaker 1>Of you, yes, please clarify that.

426
00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:46.279
<v Speaker 2>And your grandpappy's probably cool if his eyeballs are going

427
00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:48.319
<v Speaker 2>a different directly, and that's not okay. But because a

428
00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:52.839
<v Speaker 2>papa left sixteen kids in a room while his eyeballs

429
00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:54.920
<v Speaker 2>are rolling around his head, then I am making fun

430
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<v Speaker 2>of him.

431
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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, but we should stop with the eye thing,

432
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<v Speaker 1>because I worked with a guy who, into mind, he

433
00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.359
<v Speaker 1>had a lazy eye, as it's probably not supposed to

434
00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.599
<v Speaker 1>be called, and he was a really good guy, but

435
00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:09.039
<v Speaker 1>he would be just speaking straight to you, but.

436
00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:11.559
<v Speaker 2>Like looking at the guy beside you, and well, I've

437
00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:13.519
<v Speaker 2>known those people too for like a year, so what

438
00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:15.240
<v Speaker 2>they weren't weirdos, so it didn't make fun of the

439
00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:15.880
<v Speaker 2>weird eye.

440
00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:18.240
<v Speaker 1>But for like a year, I didn't realize that, and

441
00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I I thought he was common asshole because I would

442
00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:23.039
<v Speaker 1>think he was saying things to me that I had

443
00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:25.880
<v Speaker 1>no idea about or that I didn't do. But it

444
00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:28.720
<v Speaker 1>turns out he was never really speaking directly to me.

445
00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:30.519
<v Speaker 1>He was just looking at me with his one eye.

446
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<v Speaker 2>We're very non PC here, so you know.

447
00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:35.119
<v Speaker 1>But I like that. I love the guy. Shout out, Ronnie.

448
00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:36.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, I make fun of people.

449
00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I love you dude, because I'm just I'm bitchy now.

450
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<v Speaker 2>According to court documents obtained by WTHR, an officer arrived

451
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<v Speaker 2>at this home to investigate a reported trespassing on June thirteenth.

452
00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Responding officers spoke to a woman who said she was

453
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<v Speaker 2>awakened at five am by her security camera. The victim,

454
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<v Speaker 2>whose name has not been released, initially believed it was

455
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<v Speaker 2>an animal on the camera, before realizing it was a

456
00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:04.119
<v Speaker 2>man she had interacted with before, named James Davidson.

457
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh My on w t RICH reports that.

458
00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:09.599
<v Speaker 2>The victims of Davidson had exposed himself to her in

459
00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:12.519
<v Speaker 2>the past, and she had made a police report on

460
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<v Speaker 2>June thirteenth.

461
00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>She told police.

462
00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Davidson faced the camera and was helicoptering his genitals, masturbating

463
00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:20.160
<v Speaker 2>and playing with himself.

464
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Damn he can so he knew the camera was there.

465
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<v Speaker 2>On June fourteenth, police received a report that Davidson had

466
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<v Speaker 2>exposed himself to another woman who lived next door to him.

467
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<v Speaker 2>She alleged he was quote creeping around her house and

468
00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:37.559
<v Speaker 2>was seen on security footage allegedly touching himself and moving

469
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<v Speaker 2>in a manner similar to the first incident.

470
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<v Speaker 1>I e.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Helicoptering so he's been charged with two counts of public

472
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:50.759
<v Speaker 2>indecency and criminal trespassing. He has been convicted of publican

473
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:55.599
<v Speaker 2>decency three times since twenty twenty four, and he's I guess,

474
00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:58.920
<v Speaker 2>going to be appearing in court on July ninth. So

475
00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:01.680
<v Speaker 2>he's appeared in it seems already this week.

476
00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand.

477
00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:07.759
<v Speaker 2>Why we have to deal with this guy. I mean,

478
00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:10.839
<v Speaker 2>public in decency three times since twenty twenty four, and

479
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:16.279
<v Speaker 2>now he is helicoptering on security cameras. This guy's he's

480
00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:18.480
<v Speaker 2>got problems and he does not need to be in

481
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the public.

482
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, I've already heard rumors that he was a big

483
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:25.119
<v Speaker 1>PD Pablo fan and he was really into that song

484
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, Get your dick out, throw it around your

485
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>head like a helicopter, but those reports are unsubstantiated at

486
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:37.200
<v Speaker 1>this point. You know what I remember I was thinking

487
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>when you were reading this about how wrong this is

488
00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.440
<v Speaker 1>to do to people, and how it seemingly just shrugged

489
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.319
<v Speaker 1>off as like just this weird, goofy kind of almost

490
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>funny thing. And I think it's none of that. I

491
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:54.119
<v Speaker 1>think the sentence should be a guy with very rough

492
00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:59.519
<v Speaker 1>studded boots, a big guy with huge muscled thighs, comes

493
00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:02.559
<v Speaker 1>to your house and kicks you in your little dick

494
00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:06.640
<v Speaker 1>in your little pud meet like it goes up the

495
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:09.440
<v Speaker 1>number of kicks for every offense. Right, So this guy

496
00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:12.119
<v Speaker 1>is already deserves like twenty kicks to his little pud

497
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:16.240
<v Speaker 1>with it by the big studded, rough booted blag guy

498
00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:20.759
<v Speaker 1>who works for the police. This is the foot of justice, folks,

499
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:27.279
<v Speaker 1>is what I'm describing. Okay, Now, this guy should go

500
00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:31.200
<v Speaker 1>to jail for ten years for this shit the first time, because,

501
00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:35.279
<v Speaker 1>like I said, this is devient behavior and he's he's

502
00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:38.400
<v Speaker 1>done way worse than this. I guarantee you this person

503
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:39.759
<v Speaker 1>has done way worse than this.

504
00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's on his way.

505
00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>He is on his way.

506
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Because they escalate, They don't just stop at waving their

507
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:55.519
<v Speaker 2>little ppau. They end up sexually assaulting someone going.

508
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Further than that. These people cannot be reformed.

509
00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:01.079
<v Speaker 2>No, and I can't know why we keep dealing with this.

510
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:04.839
<v Speaker 1>They cannot this type of this type of stuff, These

511
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>cereal rapists, these molesters, these people cannot control themselves for

512
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:14.079
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, be it brain chemicals, be it a spiritual thing,

513
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:16.799
<v Speaker 1>be it whatever reason. This is the way they are

514
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 1>wired and they will never ever stop and you can

515
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:23.119
<v Speaker 1>never ever trust them. So I don't understand why we're

516
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.119
<v Speaker 1>not realizing that. As a society, we realize it.

517
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:32.400
<v Speaker 2>We're just complacent. Our legislators don't give a hoot about it.

518
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.279
<v Speaker 1>The most human, the most humane thing you can do,

519
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 1>even considering them as well, which I don't, is a

520
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:44.279
<v Speaker 1>penal colony on the deserted island in the middle of

521
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the fucking ocean. Keyword here, penal. Yeah. And if they

522
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 1>want to go fucking do all this stuff to each other,

523
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:54.160
<v Speaker 1>then hey, it's fine. Just drop diddy juice from the

524
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>air like supply dry.

525
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Speaker 2>We've already got a place for these folks.

526
00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>It's called Epstein Purpose Epstein Island into a molester devmp

527
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>penal quality, and this is where we send these people

528
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:09.799
<v Speaker 1>to live out the rest of their little lives.

529
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Their little lives, their little lives doing all right. We

530
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:21.319
<v Speaker 2>have another another strange story here, Dylan. This is according

531
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>to the New York Post, Christopher Peden, thirty six, of

532
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Fort Wayne, Indiana, had an arson plan that ended up.

533
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Being a bunch of junk. It was not a good plan.

534
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:38.920
<v Speaker 2>A firebug in Indiana cut off his own penis, dumb

535
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.000
<v Speaker 2>gasoline on it and then used it to a lot

536
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:42.759
<v Speaker 2>of blaze in Saudi neighbors garage.

537
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, this guy really gave himself the shaft.

538
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you like my pun?

539
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Did you make that up? But that that pun?

540
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:53.799
<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

541
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:57.559
<v Speaker 1>This isn't real. This can't be real. No one has

542
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>ever done this, cut their own made a Molotov cocktail

543
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:05.480
<v Speaker 1>out of their own penis, because I mean, that's about

544
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.839
<v Speaker 1>the most hardcore thing I've ever heard.

545
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Dick fire.

546
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>This, This dick is fire. Now, this dick is on fire, bro,

547
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>and it just comes flying at gage. Bro, that's where

548
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>my motorcycle's at. Dog, what are you doing? Now? This

549
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>is the partying buddy Christmas decorations, you some bitch. This

550
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>is that drunk buddy who goes away too far and

551
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>like you've already settled down, you got kids and then

552
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a wife, and he still comes around, but he gets

553
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>way too drunk and and this is like, this is

554
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the apex of it where your wife is like he

555
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>can never come back because he threw.

556
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 2>This is why I tell you not to drink heavily,

557
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>because I can't trust you not to cut your dick

558
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:46.920
<v Speaker 2>off and light it.

559
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:48.759
<v Speaker 1>On fire and be like, why do you not want

560
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Tim to come by? He said, He's I've known him since,

561
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:54.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, kindergarten. She's like, he caught our garage on

562
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:57.839
<v Speaker 1>fire with his flaming dick. He can't come back.

563
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:02.400
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna drop the bomb on you, bud now. Petin

564
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 2>told cops that he quote harmed himself inside the garage

565
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:07.279
<v Speaker 2>and Fort Wayne by cutting off his penis with a

566
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:12.559
<v Speaker 2>kitchen knife. This happened on May sixth. By the way,

567
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean this is this is totally nuts.

568
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, it's just a penis.

569
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Well that it is? Yes, yes, okay, give me more puns.

570
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:27.759
<v Speaker 1>I love them. Now.

571
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:32.200
<v Speaker 2>During this plan, I've never heard of a dick used

572
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>as kindling.

573
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:35.079
<v Speaker 1>By the way, no new new for me.

574
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.359
<v Speaker 2>I just had a thought that the next Olympic Games

575
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:43.319
<v Speaker 2>are being held in l a O. Got correct. We

576
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>could get this guy to run with the Olympic torch.

577
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:51.640
<v Speaker 2>But it's just a dick in his hand. Okay, okay,

578
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe that wasn't so great idea, but anyway.

579
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a great I think it's a great idea. I

580
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:57.279
<v Speaker 1>don't think it'll bring people back to the Olympics.

581
00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>He tells belie that he poured gasoline on his severed

582
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:02.799
<v Speaker 2>genitals and set it on fire on the floor of

583
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:06.319
<v Speaker 2>the garage, just inside the door. He later ran into

584
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:08.559
<v Speaker 2>the police and he claimed he had been slashed in

585
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:12.640
<v Speaker 2>the city's downtown area, but soon copped to being dishonest

586
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>about the stabbing and told investigators that he wanted to

587
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>be truthful, and that is when he made his confession.

588
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.279
<v Speaker 2>If you will. Investigators collected evidence from the garage, including

589
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.920
<v Speaker 2>a red plastic gas container, four lighters, and a kitchen knife.

590
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 2>This guy has been charged with arson and is doing

591
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 2>court next week. We have no word on the condition

592
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:39.759
<v Speaker 2>of his angry inchris what is left of it.

593
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Look, obviously something's wrong with this guy. Okay, we're convent silly,

594
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>but something's wrong with this guy. He's got some pro

595
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>something's wrong with him.

596
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>He can be peeing out of a hole.

597
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:54.079
<v Speaker 1>D hold on second, not a peep hole. They're saying

598
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>that he cut it off mm hmm and set it

599
00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>on fire.

600
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:00.839
<v Speaker 2>That's what day he's saying out here, the saying is doing.

601
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>And then he's just out kicking it around. Bro, He's

602
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>just out This is going on with the rest of

603
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>his evening until the cops were like, hey, why are

604
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>your pants covered?

605
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Sure they arrived due to the fire.

606
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Ah you think so.

607
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 2>And happened upon this bleeding fella. Ah, yes, yes, it's like, ps,

608
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:23.839
<v Speaker 2>my peep is gone.

609
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>You know you know what, my my dick would start

610
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:27.799
<v Speaker 1>such a big.

611
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Fire like an LA wildfire.

612
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:34.839
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm telling telling you, dude. People be like, oh

613
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.319
<v Speaker 1>my god, what puns or Pratt will be out campaigning

614
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>on your dick. How is the whole area burned up

615
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>so quickly? And then when they found out, they'd be like, oh,

616
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 1>I guess so if he threw that on fire, there's

617
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 1>no way we could have contained this.

618
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.440
<v Speaker 2>No one believes you, don't, especially me.

619
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:57.799
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I think I have that. My longtime listeners

620
00:32:57.799 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>know I must. I'm a show. I'm a grower, not

621
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.519
<v Speaker 1>a show. So let's be honest. Okay, let's bring it

622
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.559
<v Speaker 1>back down to earth. It would not make much of

623
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:07.119
<v Speaker 1>a mess. You might not even.

624
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Notice this may come that's a surprise to you doing

625
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:20.680
<v Speaker 2>But our listeners don't want to hear about your penis.

626
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, you opened up with like butt sex, butt

627
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>plug butt stuff like twenty times in the first ten seconds.

628
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Well that's expected and now you're talking about helicoptering, people

629
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>helicoptering their genitals and multiple stories and you think I'm

630
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>not gonna bring my genitals into this. I mean, what

631
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:43.119
<v Speaker 1>that expectation alone? You see what I'm doing with criminals. Yeah,

632
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm helicoptering. Oh see that. I don't think women can helicopter.

633
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:52.839
<v Speaker 2>How do you know? Maybe they can? I didn't say

634
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:53.920
<v Speaker 2>what I was helicoptering.

635
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>God stop, let's just move on.

636
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I got a really big clotor.

637
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<v Speaker 1>All right? Howbout you just come in the room just

638
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:12.119
<v Speaker 1>slinging or being all over the place, mock clearing the

639
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>coffee table.

640
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Off, Get you a big old aye full of it. Hey,

641
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:19.280
<v Speaker 2>I know you're as going out in that direction over yonder,

642
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.280
<v Speaker 2>but I want you to direct it right here and

643
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 2>get it.

644
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Bring that eye around here and look at this. You

645
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 1>look at this?

646
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:30.199
<v Speaker 2>All right? The we gotta talk about this event that

647
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 2>happened I say event, this incident that happened in Oregon

648
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.199
<v Speaker 2>in a city park, speaking of perverts. I'm telling you, man,

649
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 2>every news story I've read this week has been about

650
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 2>some fucking weirdo. There is a sisterhood of strangers that

651
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.239
<v Speaker 2>jumped a creepy thirty one year old man after he

652
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:49.840
<v Speaker 2>allegedly groped more than half a dozen women in a

653
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:55.599
<v Speaker 2>popular city park, according to The Oregonian. And of course

654
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>police were slow to respond.

655
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>So these women banded together and kicked this guy's ass.

656
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And this is what I'm talking about, Dylan. This

657
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 2>is what we all need to do when we see

658
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.679
<v Speaker 2>a fucking pervert. We need to band together and kick

659
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:11.760
<v Speaker 2>the perverts ass. So this city park seems to be

660
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:19.199
<v Speaker 2>about forty three acres and this guy Elkkally, which you said,

661
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 2>you don't even know if that's a real.

662
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Name, you said, aimin elk Holy of Beaverton, of Beaverton, Oregon. Wow,

663
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know.

664
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.199
<v Speaker 2>So he went on this perverted rampage in the forty

665
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>three acre park. It began when a twenty eight year

666
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:35.360
<v Speaker 2>old woman named Zoe Shearer stepped out of a car

667
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:41.199
<v Speaker 2>wearing an ornate bra top and a two two skirt

668
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>for a photo shoot. And I get this. I was

669
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 2>a photographer for many years specialized in boudoir, shot a

670
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:54.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of burlesque performers and you know, kind of alt models,

671
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:57.800
<v Speaker 2>So I get wearing a strange outfit in a public

672
00:35:57.800 --> 00:35:58.960
<v Speaker 2>place for photo shoot.

673
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 1>This is not uncommon. She's going to do her pictures

674
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:06.280
<v Speaker 1>right right, you get I get it. Probably change or

675
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>if she's gonna stay, obviously you should probably change. Maybe

676
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, So she steps out of the car.

677
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Maybe she's wearing this interesting outfit, maybe not the norm,

678
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 2>but she's doing a photo shoot, so I totally get that. Cool.

679
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.840
<v Speaker 2>He immediately darts toward her. He grabs a hold of

680
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.559
<v Speaker 2>her breast and waist and would not let go. And

681
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:30.239
<v Speaker 2>the creepy thing is doing Oh my gosh. He starts screaming, quote,

682
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 2>I need it. I need it, every bone in my body,

683
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I need it.

684
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh God.

685
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:38.119
<v Speaker 2>She was finally able to break free of the man.

686
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:41.039
<v Speaker 2>He chased her around the park as he was making

687
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 2>those haunting statements. Her companion, another forty three year old woman,

688
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:48.960
<v Speaker 2>a clothing designer, had tried to stop the man. He

689
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 2>body checked her, according to police reports. A male photographer

690
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:56.480
<v Speaker 2>with the duo broke up the chase and elk Holy

691
00:36:56.519 --> 00:37:00.280
<v Speaker 2>then moved on to more victims. He turned his eye.

692
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:03.559
<v Speaker 2>He turned his eye to Helen. He was able to

693
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.599
<v Speaker 2>turn his eye and like cider singer, so he turned

694
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:09.760
<v Speaker 2>his eye to a thirty one and thirty two year old.

695
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Women.

696
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I guess thirty one and thirty two year old women

697
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.920
<v Speaker 2>that were in the park. They were already aware of

698
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:21.159
<v Speaker 2>this man's actions. They had seen him attack these other folks.

699
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.039
<v Speaker 2>One of them was able to strike him with a

700
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.960
<v Speaker 2>water bottle when he came close. It was enough to

701
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 2>fend him off, but it did not end his Purvespree.

702
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:35.280
<v Speaker 2>He then decided to pursue a seventy four year old

703
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:36.679
<v Speaker 2>woman and her forty.

704
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Five year old daughter.

705
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:41.320
<v Speaker 2>They did have a fifty five pound German Shepherd mixed

706
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:46.440
<v Speaker 2>dog with them, thankfully. He allegedly straddled the elderly woman,

707
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 2>astonishing her, and she was like, I'm seventy four years old.

708
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.480
<v Speaker 2>My first thought was get the frick off me.

709
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, so she kicked him and.

710
00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Her daughter joined in shoving him. The dog is barked,

711
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>starts snarling at the man. This dog's about to eat

712
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:07.159
<v Speaker 2>his ass up. I just aim blown away here. That's

713
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:09.360
<v Speaker 2>when the Sisterhood gets their revenge.

714
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Dylan. The group of.

715
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Effective women, including the thirty one year old the thirty

716
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:18.239
<v Speaker 2>two year old, they all be photographer, the model, the

717
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:22.519
<v Speaker 2>fashion designer. They all start running over. They start wailing

718
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 2>on this guy. They pounced on him. They start hitting, punching, scratching,

719
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.639
<v Speaker 2>They pull his hair, they pull on his clothes, everything.

720
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:31.159
<v Speaker 2>The seventy four year old woman said she didn't feel

721
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:33.920
<v Speaker 2>any danger at that point because the sisterhood was there.

722
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Portland Police arrived to arrest the man after victims waited

723
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.480
<v Speaker 2>thirty one minutes. Four different people called nine one one

724
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:42.840
<v Speaker 2>at the scene, with the last call at two thirty

725
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:47.000
<v Speaker 2>eight pm, after police were still absent from the scene. Now,

726
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 2>cops in the area say there is a significant staffing

727
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.920
<v Speaker 2>shortage and that has been a problem for the police department.

728
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:56.199
<v Speaker 2>They do work hard every day to respond as quickly

729
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 2>as possible, but the reality is that they don't have

730
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:02.880
<v Speaker 2>the staffing level to meet the level of service that

731
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:04.440
<v Speaker 2>the community deserves.

732
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm sure that's what it is. That's what

733
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:08.880
<v Speaker 1>happens when you call for defunding the Well, this is

734
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>what happens when you fucking totally shit on cops and

735
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:13.320
<v Speaker 1>it turns out they don't want to work there anymore.

736
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Who saw that coming.

737
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, the department also doesn't have any more funds to

738
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.639
<v Speaker 2>hire police officers. There were two ballot measures. Voters are

739
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:24.679
<v Speaker 2>set to I guess vote on coming up about whether

740
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.239
<v Speaker 2>or not they want to further fund the police department.

741
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:32.400
<v Speaker 1>They're literally defunding the police. And this is what happens.

742
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>This is what happens that the cops can't respond or

743
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the cops don't want to respond because they're afraid of

744
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:44.280
<v Speaker 1>every move they make of being sued or dog filmed

745
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:49.119
<v Speaker 1>or filmed or any of that stuff. Yeah, accused of wrongdoing.

746
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, two ballot measures the voters are set

747
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:55.119
<v Speaker 2>to measure this November could address the issue. Elkolli also

748
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.480
<v Speaker 2>allegedly put one of the women in a choke hold

749
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.800
<v Speaker 2>during this rampage and injured her jaw. Police said he

750
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:01.840
<v Speaker 2>was high on LSD.

751
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

752
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 2>He pled guilty to three counts of harassment and one

753
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of attempted strangulation and it's been sentenced to two

754
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:11.760
<v Speaker 2>years of probation and eighty hours of community service. He's

755
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:15.239
<v Speaker 2>also been ordered to undergo evaluations for drug, psychological and

756
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:21.400
<v Speaker 2>sexual issues. Sharer, the original model who was attacked, believes

757
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.920
<v Speaker 2>the punishment is inadequate and said she hoped that he

758
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:29.000
<v Speaker 2>would be forced to undergo some kind of impatient treatment.

759
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I got one question. Well, for one, I totally

760
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 1>I just knew some bullshit sentence was going to calm

761
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>down like that, and it's just a it's a thousand wonders,

762
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:44.639
<v Speaker 1>especially if he truly was on LSD or you know

763
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:49.679
<v Speaker 1>whatever that he didn't you know, harm really seriously harm

764
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.599
<v Speaker 1>physically or kill one of these victims.

765
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:57.719
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not being like, I'm not really being a

766
00:40:57.719 --> 00:40:59.599
<v Speaker 2>smart ass when I say they defunded the police, They've

767
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 2>like literally no, they're literally no. I mean this town

768
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:05.639
<v Speaker 2>literally like the mayor they voted to defund the police. Yeah,

769
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.559
<v Speaker 2>they'refore there, and they took the funds away, so the

770
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:12.719
<v Speaker 2>less Yeah, so that's actually true. But it's not me

771
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:16.320
<v Speaker 2>just like making fun of these this town for being stupid.

772
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:20.159
<v Speaker 1>So I have one question, one question alone for one,

773
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 1>this female voltron that formed up out of this these

774
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:27.760
<v Speaker 1>victims and they kicked his ass. I love it. I

775
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>love it. I want more of it. Where were the

776
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.719
<v Speaker 1>men in the park, That's what I want to know.

777
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Where were the other men? I know the one photographer

778
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:38.719
<v Speaker 1>tried to help. Where were the men in this park?

779
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Because where I come.

780
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:42.519
<v Speaker 2>From, maybe there weren't a lot of men around Jyllan.

781
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's I don't know.

782
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:48.199
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the men were not recreating at the park that day.

783
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:51.599
<v Speaker 1>There's just no men in the park. Perhaps not possible,

784
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:53.880
<v Speaker 1>but you know what, I think it's possible as well.

785
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of soy boys, a bunch of little

786
00:41:56.840 --> 00:42:00.880
<v Speaker 1>punks who are scared to death the physical, toxic masculinity,

787
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and they're just scared to death and fit. I mean,

788
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I see video after video people just talking crazy, getting

789
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>all up in people's faces and they just stand there shivering.

790
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh God.

791
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 2>Look, my papa had a word for those men besides yellowbillied.

792
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 2>He called them taffy asses. And I think he just

793
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:21.199
<v Speaker 2>got a lot of taffy asses running around out here.

794
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Dylan, I'm sorry, but where I come from, it don't matter.

795
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:26.599
<v Speaker 1>If there was two men in that part, they would

796
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:27.280
<v Speaker 1>have been on that man.

797
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Where I come from, from the damn Jump Street. This

798
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:31.880
<v Speaker 2>man grabs me, I'm gonna be.

799
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Wailing on his ass. Well, I'm just saying, the.

800
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Sisterhood's gonna have to come over and tear me off.

801
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:37.400
<v Speaker 2>This motherfucker.

802
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:42.199
<v Speaker 1>I've seen instances of men acting crazy in public and stuff,

803
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and every single time I've seen that in my life,

804
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.519
<v Speaker 1>in the real world. There were already men flanking him,

805
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>getting their children to stay over here, out of the fray,

806
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and positioning themselves to fuck this guy up. That's just

807
00:42:58.480 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>not allowed to happen.

808
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.559
<v Speaker 2>But because what should happen when you see some crazy

809
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:07.559
<v Speaker 2>motherfucker on the subway threatening everybody, tormenting somebody, Why don't

810
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:09.719
<v Speaker 2>people just I don't care ment what y'all all should

811
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:11.920
<v Speaker 2>just form a damn group and jump on this motherfucker.

812
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, as only wait.

813
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.960
<v Speaker 2>We got to take our shit back. And when I

814
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:19.280
<v Speaker 2>say that, I mean take it back from these criminals.

815
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 2>We got to take our communities back. We can't stand

816
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:28.280
<v Speaker 2>around anymore and watch the community and our society decline

817
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 2>into just rampant criminal chaos. We as a people, we

818
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 2>have seen our government isn't going to protect us, Our

819
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 2>police aren't always going to be able to protect us.

820
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.559
<v Speaker 2>Law enforcement is not always going to be there. You

821
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:48.280
<v Speaker 2>have to take your safety and other folks safety. You

822
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.519
<v Speaker 2>have to take it into your own hands. And I'm

823
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:53.440
<v Speaker 2>not advocating for vigilante justice, Like I don't want you

824
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:55.719
<v Speaker 2>to go out here and like hunt sex offenders on

825
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:57.480
<v Speaker 2>a registry and kill them and go to prison or

826
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 2>anything like that. It's not what I'm advocating for, even

827
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:02.800
<v Speaker 2>though you know, hey, we could probably use a dexter

828
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:06.360
<v Speaker 2>these days. I'm just saying, when you see some shit

829
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:08.400
<v Speaker 2>going down in a public place, I don't know why

830
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:11.480
<v Speaker 2>three or four people don't go over and stop that shit.

831
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Stand up.

832
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:15.360
<v Speaker 1>It's about it.

833
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Why are we so fucking pussified these days? We've been

834
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 2>neutered as a society, and we can't live our lives

835
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:27.280
<v Speaker 2>like that. We can't be so afraid that, oh no,

836
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.840
<v Speaker 2>this could go viral and someone could cancel me, or

837
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:33.719
<v Speaker 2>oh my, I might get in trouble. I would rather be,

838
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.360
<v Speaker 2>as they say, judged by twelve than carried by six.

839
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that what they say, Dylan?

840
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>That is what they say. But I mean, you see

841
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 1>stories like the Penny situation up there in New York.

842
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>They tried their damnedest. That man. In my opinion, I

843
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 1>think he definitely saved people's lives or saving them from

844
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:54.079
<v Speaker 1>getting harmed that day by stepping in to that maniac

845
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.840
<v Speaker 1>man who had been put on the street time after

846
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:01.079
<v Speaker 1>time by the system. That same sys did their best

847
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:03.039
<v Speaker 1>to destroy him and put him in jail for the

848
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:06.119
<v Speaker 1>rest of his life. So I think those stories resonate

849
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.679
<v Speaker 1>in these people's heads to a degree, and like if

850
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I do do something, will I get in like serious trouble.

851
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.159
<v Speaker 1>So that's part of it. And also just society in

852
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>general has just like I said, attacking anything. Just I

853
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 1>don't know, this idea that everyone gets to do anything

854
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 1>they want at all times in public is not really

855
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:30.840
<v Speaker 1>a healthy idea.

856
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes violence has to be met with further violence.

857
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.239
<v Speaker 1>But that's the way I Again, where I came from,

858
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the police response time was forty five minutes an hour

859
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:43.920
<v Speaker 1>plus because you were in the middle of nowhere. There's

860
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.079
<v Speaker 1>maybe one or two sheriff deputies, which you're in the

861
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:49.239
<v Speaker 1>sheriff's jurisdiction outside of the city limits.

862
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Again, this is why Mountain folks, country folks a little bit.

863
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:54.079
<v Speaker 2>You have to handle it because you've got to take

864
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>they're not into your own hands, because again you're in

865
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:01.480
<v Speaker 2>some isolated rural area. You live in a community where

866
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:05.559
<v Speaker 2>it takes you thirty forty minutes just to get into town. Right,

867
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.199
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna take the police a minute to get to you.

868
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:10.760
<v Speaker 2>This is why we built different, Dylan, because we've had

869
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:13.760
<v Speaker 2>to protect ourselves. What's true, we've been thrust into a

870
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:18.639
<v Speaker 2>situation where we don't always have law enforcements to come

871
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:19.519
<v Speaker 2>along and help us.

872
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:21.800
<v Speaker 1>No that they come and check on the aftermath, but

873
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>very seldom can they actually catch something in progress in

874
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a situation.

875
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:28.159
<v Speaker 2>I sound like some insane violent person who's always like,

876
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:31.039
<v Speaker 2>go kick the rest the bass. But I'm telling you, bro,

877
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:34.239
<v Speaker 2>if if we stood up more I think as a

878
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.199
<v Speaker 2>society these days, and just knock the fuck out of

879
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:39.840
<v Speaker 2>somebody acting out of pocket or smack the shit. I mean,

880
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:42.360
<v Speaker 2>it's obvious some of these people ain't never had their mouths.

881
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Their mama ain't never smacked them through the mouth before,

882
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:47.920
<v Speaker 2>and that's the problem. And I think if we just

883
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:52.039
<v Speaker 2>started standing up to people to these let's be.

884
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Out their bullies.

885
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they are like these people who come in to

886
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:58.639
<v Speaker 2>a restaurant and show their ass, and they are acting

887
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:04.519
<v Speaker 2>like big bullies, big yelling, screaming, throwing shit. If somebody

888
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.920
<v Speaker 2>clean their damn clock one good time, I bet you

889
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:10.000
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't go out and knack like that again.

890
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:13.079
<v Speaker 1>I just recently saw a viral video this guy run around,

891
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:15.920
<v Speaker 1>This dude run around talking about he from New York,

892
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:18.519
<v Speaker 1>they don't know, and just tripping in his parking lot.

893
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:20.880
<v Speaker 2>You know what people think when they say this, like,

894
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm from New York. Motherfucker. Have you met some old

895
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:28.159
<v Speaker 2>country boy from the damn backwoods of Georgia, damn work

896
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 2>the farmer's whole life.

897
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have. Well, this guy did meet

898
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:37.840
<v Speaker 1>a big, burly country boy who strung his ass out

899
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.320
<v Speaker 1>in the parking lot and to where he was screaming

900
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:43.400
<v Speaker 1>for help. So I mean, it just goes to show

901
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.559
<v Speaker 1>you loud mouse they get away with that shit, and

902
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they don't. They run up against run up on

903
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:50.159
<v Speaker 1>the wrong one.

904
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, I find typically the louder people are, the more

905
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 2>taffy ass they are because people who are truly like

906
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:00.920
<v Speaker 2>badasses don't have to add tides it. They don't have

907
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:04.280
<v Speaker 2>to let everybody know I'm the badass. They're usually the

908
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.599
<v Speaker 2>quiet type that just stands back and watches. But when

909
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:09.320
<v Speaker 2>they lose it, they lose it.

910
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:12.159
<v Speaker 1>When somebody looks. When somebody looks at you said, look,

911
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't want any trouble. You don't take that as

912
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:18.760
<v Speaker 1>they're wimpy. What they mean is they don't want to

913
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:21.760
<v Speaker 1>deal with the aftermath of fucking you up. Okay, And

914
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>if you have a guy who's very relaxed and kind

915
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:27.239
<v Speaker 1>of laughing, you know, chuggling to themselves. In a situation

916
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>like this, you need to stop and go somewhere because

917
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.159
<v Speaker 1>that person, I mean, you can tell a lot by

918
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:34.039
<v Speaker 1>the way they're standing, where they're holding their hands and

919
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.119
<v Speaker 1>things like that as well. But it's just how about

920
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:40.800
<v Speaker 1>you just don't go around picking fights well, like you're

921
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:45.679
<v Speaker 1>a badass. There's that, there's that doing.

922
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I know I get a little riled up, but honestly,

923
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm just so frustrated, but.

924
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:51.760
<v Speaker 1>We do need to take our ship back.

925
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Just so frustrated because I see so many videos on

926
00:48:55.719 --> 00:49:02.079
<v Speaker 2>social media of people, criminals just being allowed to get

927
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:05.000
<v Speaker 2>out in the streets and do shit that we would

928
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:09.559
<v Speaker 2>have never accepted fifteen years ago, thirty years ago, and

929
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:13.159
<v Speaker 2>it just makes me wonder where is our society headed,

930
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm honestly afraid of what's gonna come if we

931
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:18.639
<v Speaker 2>continue to allow this kind of thing to go on.

932
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.039
<v Speaker 2>What kind of world will we be living in in

933
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:26.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty years if we allow these criminals to get away

934
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:28.159
<v Speaker 2>with this kind of stuff and we all stand back

935
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:31.880
<v Speaker 2>because we're too afraid to stand up or intimidated or

936
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:34.360
<v Speaker 2>whatever I'm telling you, bro, if we don't nip this

937
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:37.400
<v Speaker 2>shit in the bud now and start standing up to

938
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:41.199
<v Speaker 2>protect our friends and neighbors and our community and women

939
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:44.679
<v Speaker 2>and children from these perverts who think it's okay to

940
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:49.599
<v Speaker 2>helicopter they're dick and a woman at her security camera

941
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:51.880
<v Speaker 2>knowing good and damn well she's going to see it,

942
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.920
<v Speaker 2>or think it's acceptable to run up and grab some

943
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.079
<v Speaker 2>woman at a park and start like fondling all these women.

944
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:01.440
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, a seventy four year old.

945
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Woman that this isn't okay. And if we keep allowing

946
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.800
<v Speaker 2>this to go on, it's just I'm telling you, bro,

947
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:08.840
<v Speaker 2>we're headed on a bad path and we have got

948
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:11.840
<v Speaker 2>to stand up now before it gets worse.

949
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:12.760
<v Speaker 1>It's true.

950
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 2>And I guess that's why I feel really heated right now,

951
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:20.199
<v Speaker 2>because I want all my sisters to join a sisterhood.

952
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I want us to take care of each other.

953
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.840
<v Speaker 1>A feminist vultron kicking at yes, and if that.

954
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:26.679
<v Speaker 2>Means for five of us to got to go take

955
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:29.039
<v Speaker 2>care of some business in public. We have the hobby

956
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.119
<v Speaker 2>lobby and we see some hickling down girls. I want

957
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:33.800
<v Speaker 2>us to make our contact in the in the yarn isle,

958
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:35.519
<v Speaker 2>and I want us to go take care of it,

959
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:36.559
<v Speaker 2>like we gotta.

960
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of something like this, you know, there's this

961
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Newport Beach situation, this mob violence. I'm not gonna call

962
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.519
<v Speaker 1>it a team takeover because it's mob violence. Is what

963
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:48.599
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing is getting worse, it's getting more.

964
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:52.039
<v Speaker 2>So many cases of that out this week too, Dylan. Actually,

965
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.239
<v Speaker 2>I was going to dress a few of these team

966
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.679
<v Speaker 2>takeovers that have resulted in violence.

967
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, and this, I think many of our listeners have

968
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:03.519
<v Speaker 1>seen this recent most recent one in Newport Beach where

969
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:09.679
<v Speaker 1>these three or fourteen males attacked this female cop And like,

970
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>when did when did we start raising kids? You think,

971
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:15.800
<v Speaker 1>who would even think about doing that. I've been around

972
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.079
<v Speaker 1>cops before. I knew, damn well, I could kick their

973
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:21.159
<v Speaker 1>ass and they're being an asshole to me, But I did.

974
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do that out of respect for society and

975
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:28.119
<v Speaker 1>just the system in general, you know what I'm saying, Like,

976
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:32.639
<v Speaker 1>who in the world is going to attack a police

977
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:33.599
<v Speaker 1>officer like that?

978
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, look, there's this idea that seems to have circulated,

979
00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:39.679
<v Speaker 2>especially within the last i would say ten years or so,

980
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:46.920
<v Speaker 2>this attitude that the cops are bad, All cops are bad, right,

981
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 2>acab all cops are bad, and that you don't have

982
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:54.000
<v Speaker 2>to respect authority and that you can just do whatever

983
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:58.159
<v Speaker 2>you want, and that if you do abide by the

984
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:01.559
<v Speaker 2>law or respect authority that somehow makes you a boot liquor.

985
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm sorry.

986
00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:08.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm very apple achin like yo outlaw like fuck authority

987
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:11.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of person. But I also do understand there is

988
00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:13.440
<v Speaker 2>a time and place for law enforcement, and it is

989
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:16.920
<v Speaker 2>needed because when you don't have law enforcement. We see

990
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:19.679
<v Speaker 2>what happens in these cities that have defunded police.

991
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:20.880
<v Speaker 1>We have to have basic aprea.

992
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:23.400
<v Speaker 2>We have to have we have to have law and

993
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:28.719
<v Speaker 2>order as a society, otherwise it's anarchy, and that is

994
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:29.719
<v Speaker 2>not what we want.

995
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:34.039
<v Speaker 1>No, because the only thing holding back human nature. Because

996
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:38.159
<v Speaker 1>many people assume most everyone's mostly good and it's just

997
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:41.360
<v Speaker 1>a few bad apples, I think the opposite. Actually, I

998
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:45.360
<v Speaker 1>think just because for many tens of thousands of years

999
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:50.119
<v Speaker 1>we lived in this lawless, uncivilized society, primitive.

1000
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:51.920
<v Speaker 2>It's only the strong survis.

1001
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:55.239
<v Speaker 1>It's the rules of nature to I take what you

1002
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:57.400
<v Speaker 1>have if I want it, and if I'm stronger, I

1003
00:52:57.480 --> 00:53:00.559
<v Speaker 1>beat you, you lose whatever you kill me. And we

1004
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:03.320
<v Speaker 1>lived that way for way longer than we the way

1005
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:05.880
<v Speaker 1>we live in thousands of years, and so the basics

1006
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of society, what you're describing of civilized society is what really,

1007
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:16.480
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, holds human nature in check absolutely. And

1008
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:20.280
<v Speaker 1>in all these dystopian movies, even when it's a creature

1009
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:23.519
<v Speaker 1>feature or zombies, if you'll notice, the story always moves

1010
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:26.480
<v Speaker 1>on to the bigger danger is not this thing we're

1011
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:29.719
<v Speaker 1>living with or dealing with or fighting, that's other humans.

1012
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:32.280
<v Speaker 1>The story always goes that way for a reason.

1013
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:36.079
<v Speaker 2>And we've seen that, and we see that, seen that, yes, firsthand,

1014
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:40.320
<v Speaker 2>those of us who've lived through natural disasters. Yes, the

1015
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:43.360
<v Speaker 2>poor folks who survived Hurricane Katrina saw it.

1016
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:45.920
<v Speaker 1>And that was a massive scale.

1017
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Writing murder, people robbing each other, trying to kill each

1018
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:53.360
<v Speaker 2>other over the last case of water, over some laundry detergents.

1019
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've seen that a bit, even during some

1020
00:53:56.199 --> 00:54:03.119
<v Speaker 2>of the hurricanes. We've experienced in the mountains, robbing, stealing

1021
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:08.159
<v Speaker 2>all that, taking generators taken from people, you know, thinking

1022
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:10.280
<v Speaker 2>that this is an excuse that they can get away

1023
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:10.760
<v Speaker 2>with crime.

1024
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:13.440
<v Speaker 1>No one's there to stop exactly, that's right.

1025
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:18.280
<v Speaker 2>So it devolves very quickly when there is no authority around.

1026
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:23.079
<v Speaker 2>And I just think this attitude that if you support

1027
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:26.639
<v Speaker 2>law enforcement or that you agree we do need to

1028
00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:29.679
<v Speaker 2>have laws on the books and we have to have

1029
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:33.280
<v Speaker 2>order in society that automatically makes you like some boot liquor,

1030
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:38.400
<v Speaker 2>down on your knees whatever. Sucking off a cop is

1031
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:39.239
<v Speaker 2>crazy to me.

1032
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:41.440
<v Speaker 1>And if you want to suck a cop off, that's fine.

1033
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:44.119
<v Speaker 1>And if the cops a you know, conceinding adult, that's

1034
00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:47.039
<v Speaker 1>all fine. Just to be clear, I've seen some.

1035
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Of these social media cops and I'm just gonna say

1036
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:52.840
<v Speaker 2>some of them boys and would be looking all right.

1037
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:55.239
<v Speaker 2>I seen you winking at a couple of them the

1038
00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:55.719
<v Speaker 2>other day.

1039
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:57.239
<v Speaker 1>You ain't seen me winking nobody.

1040
00:54:57.360 --> 00:54:59.840
<v Speaker 2>You love it when they on horseback they're winking at me.

1041
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I heard you earlier today talking about police on horseback.

1042
00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I think you'd like it. No, yeah, you do.

1043
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:10.239
<v Speaker 1>No horses scare me though, Yeah, but they do, Yeah,

1044
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:11.519
<v Speaker 1>they do. Okay.

1045
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:14.119
<v Speaker 2>So, speaking of these team takeovers, I know we've been

1046
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.599
<v Speaker 2>ranting a little bit here. There was a nineteen year

1047
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:19.360
<v Speaker 2>old and six others injured in a July fourth shooting

1048
00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:25.760
<v Speaker 2>during a Florida team takeover in downtown Pensacola. Philip Devon

1049
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:31.639
<v Speaker 2>Monte Sheppard Junior was killed in the shooting. At the time,

1050
00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:34.159
<v Speaker 2>they didn't have any suspects in custody, but I'm sure

1051
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:36.400
<v Speaker 2>by now they probably do. I think this article is

1052
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:39.239
<v Speaker 2>a little older, but I just wanted to address some

1053
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:44.000
<v Speaker 2>of these team takeovers and the violence that is surrounding them.

1054
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Over half a.

1055
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<v Speaker 2>Dozen people have been arrested after a Fourth of July

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00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:52.159
<v Speaker 2>block party in North Charleston's Chequora Cherokee neighborhood. It erupted

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00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:55.039
<v Speaker 2>in violence. There's a video of a police officer being attacked,

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00:55:55.039 --> 00:56:01.480
<v Speaker 2>which has spread widely online. Officers responded on Saturday around

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00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:04.199
<v Speaker 2>eight thirty pm after getting reports of gunfire and people

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00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:08.480
<v Speaker 2>firing fireworks toward passing vehicles. Authorities say they made repeated

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00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:11.199
<v Speaker 2>announcements that the event had ended and directed people to

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00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:14.360
<v Speaker 2>leave like in an effort to de escalate, but the

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00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:18.239
<v Speaker 2>situation escalated anyway, with fights breaking out, more shots fired,

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00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:22.280
<v Speaker 2>officers leaving their patrol cars to separate people and restore order.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:26.320
<v Speaker 2>During this response, they were able to recover multiple firearms

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00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:31.239
<v Speaker 2>and a makeshift spear Okay, and two officers, both females,

1068
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:34.440
<v Speaker 2>suffered minor injuries. A total of seven arrests were made

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00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:39.239
<v Speaker 2>during this block party, four where miners and three were adults.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but these takeovers, this is what's happening. And

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00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why we keep calling them takeovers, because

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00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I think you're absolutely right. They are not takeovers. They

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00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:52.440
<v Speaker 2>are riots, mob violence.

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00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:56.239
<v Speaker 1>They are mob violence. And another thing when you see

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00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:58.440
<v Speaker 1>these riots and stuff, you see the mob mentality set

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00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:01.159
<v Speaker 1>in on people and how quick people who would never

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00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:03.880
<v Speaker 1>ever do something like this will go along. We see

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00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:06.280
<v Speaker 1>it in some true crime stories when we have a

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00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:09.039
<v Speaker 1>big group of people, do one of the ones we

1080
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:11.320
<v Speaker 1>had not that long ago, were they told Ford k

1081
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:15.360
<v Speaker 1>they tortured that poor woman in such a horrible way.

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00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:18.039
<v Speaker 1>You just see these people. Some people are just wired

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00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:21.599
<v Speaker 1>like that. They go along with whoever's leading the alpha

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00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:26.159
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and it's just something we really. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think we are at a tipping point that

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00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:32.199
<v Speaker 1>if we as citizens, because we're the only ones who's

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00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:35.039
<v Speaker 1>going to affect serious real change, there's more of us.

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00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:38.920
<v Speaker 2>When you think about politicians, there are more of us

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00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:40.719
<v Speaker 2>than them.

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00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, they don't care because they live behind their gates exactly.

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00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:47.400
<v Speaker 2>So it is up to us the average citizen. Me,

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00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:51.119
<v Speaker 2>you Joe blow down the street. It is up to

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00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:52.559
<v Speaker 2>us to make change.

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00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:54.920
<v Speaker 1>It is it is, is true.

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00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:57.400
<v Speaker 2>You know we're gonna have to step up.

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00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Bring back neighborhood watch groups walking around neighborhoo with flashlights

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00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:03.519
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Band because there's strength in numbers. You know,

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00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:07.920
<v Speaker 1>when you see some bullshit, call the police. Don't. I don't.

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00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:10.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't play those games. You're doing some bullshit around

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00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:12.400
<v Speaker 1>my house. I'm calling the fucking police.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we've seen We've discussed this multiple times, but we

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00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:17.840
<v Speaker 2>live across from a neighborhood park. A lot of people

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00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:19.840
<v Speaker 2>who don't live in this neighborhood come to the park,

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00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.280
<v Speaker 2>which is fine, it's the public park. I love that

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00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:24.000
<v Speaker 2>people are out and I mean, I'm just happy to

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00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.440
<v Speaker 2>see kids out playing. That tickles me. So I'm like,

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00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:27.239
<v Speaker 2>please come.

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00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:27.480
<v Speaker 1>To the park.

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00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:29.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, I want to see your kids out and

1110
00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:33.760
<v Speaker 2>about running around playing like playing little games.

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00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:35.719
<v Speaker 1>And hide and go seek and being.

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00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Creative, you know, the swings as you're on a pirate

1113
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:41.519
<v Speaker 2>ship whatever. I mean, I love seeing that. So I think,

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00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:44.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, bring your kids out. We want kids to recreate,

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00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:47.599
<v Speaker 2>we want them outdoors. But we've seen folks pull up

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00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:50.559
<v Speaker 2>like like they want to have a fight. Yeah, Like

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00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:53.119
<v Speaker 2>we've had people pull up and they're like yelling at

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00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:55.920
<v Speaker 2>each other, like they come to the park to fight. Yes,

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00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:58.480
<v Speaker 2>And we've immediately been like, uh uh no, because you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Not going to be shooting guns and shipping mine. And

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00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you also have people going over there and just hanging

1122
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:06.079
<v Speaker 1>out at all different times of the night, smoking pots,

1123
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:09.639
<v Speaker 1>smoking pot, probably doing the cheating onto each other's spouse.

1124
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Of God knows a lot of that going on.

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00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:12.239
<v Speaker 1>God knows what.

1126
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:16.800
<v Speaker 2>The young woman who films her upskirt OnlyFans content.

1127
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:21.519
<v Speaker 1>We suspect, we think, but no, but seriously, and then

1128
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:25.679
<v Speaker 1>just trash everywhere, you know, bullshit, that's not okay. Don't

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00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:28.320
<v Speaker 1>do that. Parks close at dark for a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a residential neighborhood as well, so people should

1131
00:59:31.559 --> 00:59:35.199
<v Speaker 2>be more respectful of the community. Like this park is

1132
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:37.320
<v Speaker 2>in our neighborhood and we live here, so you should

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00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.239
<v Speaker 2>not be over here at nine thirty at night blasting

1134
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:40.800
<v Speaker 2>music is lot.

1135
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Well I've seen it one in the morning, bro, when

1136
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I go to work.

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00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, So, speaking of more of these takeovers, Dylan, there

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00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:52.039
<v Speaker 2>was a takeover. I guess you could say July fourth

1139
00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:56.039
<v Speaker 2>in Hilton Head, South Carolina, a very popular beach destination,

1140
00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:00.239
<v Speaker 2>where there was a shooting. And so you know, now

1141
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:06.440
<v Speaker 2>town leaders are weighing about drafting curfews, enhancing security patrols,

1142
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:11.039
<v Speaker 2>upgrading surveillance cameras. And that's what happens during these situations

1143
01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:18.119
<v Speaker 2>is they're going to make Big brother more readily I

1144
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:20.239
<v Speaker 2>guess you could say readily available. Big Brothers going to

1145
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:22.519
<v Speaker 2>be watching everybody because the more this shit happens, the

1146
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:25.280
<v Speaker 2>more they want to surveill us. We're going to be

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01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:26.599
<v Speaker 2>living in a surveillance state.

1148
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, that's exactly right. Many people think that because

1149
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.400
<v Speaker 1>we keep wondering why why does it seem like the

1150
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:35.760
<v Speaker 1>system doesn't work anymore? Right, Like when did it stop

1151
01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:39.119
<v Speaker 1>locking up criminals and clearing you know, people who shouldn't

1152
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:41.920
<v Speaker 1>be in society out of society, And it's like they

1153
01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:44.840
<v Speaker 1>just keep churning that, like you have this asshole at

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01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:49.039
<v Speaker 1>this park attacking all this women in Oregon and you know,

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01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:50.880
<v Speaker 1>like I said, it could have been much much worse

1156
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:54.079
<v Speaker 1>than that. And I'm sure some this will traumatize, uh,

1157
01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:56.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, those victims for the rest of their lives.

1158
01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:58.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, they can have PTSD from an event like

1159
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:00.800
<v Speaker 1>that that they carry with them the of their life.

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01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:03.880
<v Speaker 1>And then you just he doesn't even get jail time,

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01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.400
<v Speaker 1>no jail time. He gets some probation and some community

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01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:09.920
<v Speaker 1>service that he will never show up for. He'll never

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01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:11.559
<v Speaker 1>show up for that, and he'll probably never show up

1164
01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:13.800
<v Speaker 1>for you know, dous probation either, and they won't even

1165
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:17.159
<v Speaker 1>go find the guy. Why but that this is part

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01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:20.800
<v Speaker 1>of it because the worst our society gets the same.

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01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:23.280
<v Speaker 1>All the stuff you're describing, the way you're feeling about

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01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:26.719
<v Speaker 1>it is going to make you more susceptible. When they

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01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.599
<v Speaker 1>bring out the robot dogs and the robot spiders and

1170
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the drones. That's what's going to make your park or

1171
01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:36.800
<v Speaker 1>your community safe again. And you're going to accept it

1172
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:39.480
<v Speaker 1>because you're sick to death of everything going to hell

1173
01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:42.039
<v Speaker 1>in a handbasket around you. And then that's what it's

1174
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:42.960
<v Speaker 1>priming you for.

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01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:46.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and these AI data centers, I'm sorry, but really

1176
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:49.679
<v Speaker 2>I think that's all about a surveillance state. Flot cameras everywhere.

1177
01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:52.920
<v Speaker 2>They want to know what you're up to. They want

1178
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:55.880
<v Speaker 2>to spy on you. They want to control you completely.

1179
01:01:56.400 --> 01:01:59.320
<v Speaker 2>They want to control your ability to buy food. They

1180
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:01.480
<v Speaker 2>want to control your ability to own a home. I mean,

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01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:03.920
<v Speaker 2>that's that's what we're what it's all boiling down to.

1182
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:11.039
<v Speaker 2>So with every inch we give in allowing our privacy

1183
01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:16.119
<v Speaker 2>to just be totally eradicated, right, our rights to privacy, Like,

1184
01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:18.840
<v Speaker 2>we're heading toward a dystopian nightmare.

1185
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, at first when they install all the cameras

1186
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and stuff and break ins go down and people quit,

1187
01:02:25.159 --> 01:02:27.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, doing the dumb shit. At first you're like, hey, yeah,

1188
01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that worked, But that's inevitably going to evolve straight into

1189
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:34.639
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty four because they're not going to stop there.

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01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.159
<v Speaker 1>The system's not put there for your benefit.

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01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:39.239
<v Speaker 2>We're right, and we're talking about oh we need to

1192
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:42.079
<v Speaker 2>say I And look, I literally cannot get Google Maps

1193
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:45.599
<v Speaker 2>to like take me somewhere without fucking up the directions

1194
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:49.280
<v Speaker 2>and rerouting me one hundred times. So I'm supposed to

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01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:51.440
<v Speaker 2>believe that AI is really going to do these positive

1196
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:53.440
<v Speaker 2>things for me in the world when I can't even

1197
01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:56.880
<v Speaker 2>get directions somewhere they're really basic directions.

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01:02:56.920 --> 01:02:59.119
<v Speaker 1>They're using that as a vehicle to get you to

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01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:03.280
<v Speaker 1>accept all these other things. And AI in its infant state,

1200
01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:07.119
<v Speaker 1>which it is right now, is it really doesn't do

1201
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:09.880
<v Speaker 1>all that much. In my crunch, tons of data, Like,

1202
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:10.599
<v Speaker 1>all it does.

1203
01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Is find you a bunch of bullshit online and be like,

1204
01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:13.639
<v Speaker 2>here are these answers, And half the.

1205
01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Time all it's doing is picking from the ship that

1206
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:20.400
<v Speaker 1>people put online, so you get the dumb shit with

1207
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the good stuff. But no, I think that's the vehicle

1208
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:27.480
<v Speaker 1>used as why we're doing X y Z, But there's

1209
01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:28.559
<v Speaker 1>certainly more to it.

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01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Remind me. I want to talk about this AI thing

1211
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:32.840
<v Speaker 2>as it relates to podcasts in just a moment.

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01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:34.679
<v Speaker 1>But we had one more team takeover.

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01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.719
<v Speaker 2>I want to discuss that happened in Raleigh, North Carolina

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01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:40.320
<v Speaker 2>over the July fourth weekend, where more than twenty three

1215
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:44.000
<v Speaker 2>adults were arrested during this team takeover.

1216
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:45.599
<v Speaker 1>So it's not a team takeover.

1217
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:49.440
<v Speaker 2>There was adults, multiple shootings, nine injury, dozens of law

1218
01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:52.519
<v Speaker 2>enforcement arrests, and this was across two major nightlife and

1219
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:57.840
<v Speaker 2>shopping districts. So now Raleigh is considering a team curfew.

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01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:00.440
<v Speaker 1>So that all it does is fuck it up the rest.

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01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:02.480
<v Speaker 1>So say you're one of those people. I've known people,

1222
01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I've done it some myself. I go out twelve one

1223
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:10.280
<v Speaker 1>in the morning and I like it because it's quiet.

1224
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:13.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's something about they say the witching hours

1225
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:17.079
<v Speaker 1>between twelve and three. It's really calm and the energy

1226
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:19.360
<v Speaker 1>is different, and you know you can kind of like

1227
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:22.800
<v Speaker 1>get some solitude even in a busy area I like

1228
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:25.880
<v Speaker 1>going to but it'll eventually because of this dumb shit,

1229
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:27.960
<v Speaker 1>get to where you can't even leave your fucking home

1230
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:31.280
<v Speaker 1>after dark. You didn't do anything, but now you're being

1231
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:34.239
<v Speaker 1>affected by these blanket policies that are being put in

1232
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:37.800
<v Speaker 1>because that's what they always do. Instead of holding individuals accountable,

1233
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:40.199
<v Speaker 1>which I hate this in the workplace. It drives me

1234
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:44.199
<v Speaker 1>fucking crazy. Instead of holding individuals accountable for their bad

1235
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:47.679
<v Speaker 1>behavior or whatever they want to do, be lazy and

1236
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:50.559
<v Speaker 1>throw out these blanket policies for everyone to go under

1237
01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:52.960
<v Speaker 1>or to change the rule for everyone, and it just

1238
01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:55.840
<v Speaker 1>fucks it up for the rest of us, and I

1239
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:56.320
<v Speaker 1>hate that.

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01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I think a lot of people are asking, like,

1241
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:00.960
<v Speaker 2>why are so many teenagers partici painting in these like

1242
01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:05.840
<v Speaker 2>street takeovers, these reckless group events, and a lot of

1243
01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:09.440
<v Speaker 2>folks immediately so social media, and I do believe that

1244
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:13.440
<v Speaker 2>that is like a driving factor. It's like an accelerant

1245
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:17.239
<v Speaker 2>if you will. But here's the thing, Dylan, social media

1246
01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:20.400
<v Speaker 2>does not create board teenagers. It actually just gives them

1247
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:23.360
<v Speaker 2>a place to get together. And I think for generations,

1248
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:26.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, teenagers, we've uh and I see we because

1249
01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:28.239
<v Speaker 2>our generation seems to be kind of some of the

1250
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:31.199
<v Speaker 2>last to do this. You know, we spent our free time,

1251
01:05:31.239 --> 01:05:35.440
<v Speaker 2>our summer's earning money. We were cutting grass, we were babysitting,

1252
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:40.039
<v Speaker 2>bagging groceries, washing dishes, working in fast food. We were

1253
01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:44.079
<v Speaker 2>grocery store stockers, checkout clerks. Right, we had summer jobs,

1254
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:48.719
<v Speaker 2>which now days I've seen teens and teen parents saying

1255
01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:51.840
<v Speaker 2>it is nearly impossible for teenagers to get jobs, right

1256
01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:54.199
<v Speaker 2>because now all the adults are vuying for those jobs

1257
01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:57.440
<v Speaker 2>that were intended for teenagers because economy, because the economy

1258
01:05:57.480 --> 01:05:59.840
<v Speaker 2>is so bad. And those jobs did more than provides

1259
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:01.920
<v Speaker 2>spending money for us, if you think about it. I mean,

1260
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:06.079
<v Speaker 2>we were taught punctuality, getting along with others in a workplace,

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01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:07.239
<v Speaker 2>some pubility.

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01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Uh, the satisfaction of earning a paycheck. It gives you,

1263
01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:13.039
<v Speaker 1>like a certain confidence, got your own mind.

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01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I remember being a teenager when I had my first

1265
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:18.559
<v Speaker 2>jobs and getting that paycheck and being able to go

1266
01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:21.480
<v Speaker 2>like to the mall and I could buy whatever I wanted.

1267
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:25.320
<v Speaker 2>It was your money, my money back, and close CDs

1268
01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:27.800
<v Speaker 2>like it made me feel good, Like I felt like

1269
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:29.679
<v Speaker 2>I was really doing the damn thing, you know what

1270
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean. And so I do believe that is important

1271
01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:36.639
<v Speaker 2>and that that is missing out. And these kids are

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01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:40.960
<v Speaker 2>looking to fill those hours that we spent maybe working

1273
01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:46.039
<v Speaker 2>a job or mowing grandma's lawn or whatever, and so

1274
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:49.440
<v Speaker 2>we don't have those opportunities anymore. And then you have

1275
01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:53.920
<v Speaker 2>all this unstructured time, and I think, you know, kids

1276
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:57.519
<v Speaker 2>aren't doing the things that we did. We were lived

1277
01:06:57.519 --> 01:06:59.599
<v Speaker 2>in neighborhoods where we played with other kids, We run

1278
01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:03.320
<v Speaker 2>our bike across town. We had arcades, we had bowling alleys,

1279
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:05.920
<v Speaker 2>we had skating rinks, and a lot of those places

1280
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:10.039
<v Speaker 2>have closed, which sadly can be attributed to some of

1281
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:13.960
<v Speaker 2>the violence that takes place at public pool you know nowadays.

1282
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.840
<v Speaker 2>So you shut down all the things for kids to do.

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01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:18.440
<v Speaker 1>We see this in small towns all the day.

1284
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:21.719
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing to do, right, and when you have nothing

1285
01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:24.480
<v Speaker 2>to do, boredom, all this time on your hands, that

1286
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:27.960
<v Speaker 2>is going to lead to this kind of thing. So

1287
01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.800
<v Speaker 2>when you don't have any kind of structured activities. You

1288
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:34.559
<v Speaker 2>don't have community sports anymore because I mean as a kid,

1289
01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I remember, you know, I filled my time with doing

1290
01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:43.239
<v Speaker 2>a dance class, playing sports, you know, playing little league basketball,

1291
01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:47.320
<v Speaker 2>playing softball. And when I got to high school and

1292
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:49.760
<v Speaker 2>middle school, you know, you join clubs. You're part of

1293
01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:53.360
<v Speaker 2>different clubs and teams and things like that that helped

1294
01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:58.000
<v Speaker 2>fill your time. You do theater, you sing with the chorus,

1295
01:07:58.039 --> 01:08:00.679
<v Speaker 2>you're in a band. And I just feel like everybody's

1296
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:05.760
<v Speaker 2>online today, no one's participating in these activities on the

1297
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:09.320
<v Speaker 2>grand scale like they once did, and you just have

1298
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:11.519
<v Speaker 2>all this time on your hands. So these teenagers are

1299
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:14.840
<v Speaker 2>looking for things to do and they see this, Oh

1300
01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:18.159
<v Speaker 2>it's an event for teenagers, They're gonna go, and then

1301
01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:19.399
<v Speaker 2>it turns into chaos.

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01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, because there's truly no organization or anything like

1303
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:26.479
<v Speaker 1>that too. There's no supervision, there's no controls there. You know,

1304
01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:28.800
<v Speaker 1>when you have a big event, a concert or something

1305
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:32.039
<v Speaker 1>like that, you have ambulances on site in case of

1306
01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:34.600
<v Speaker 1>an accident or some you know, some kind of stampede.

1307
01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:36.720
<v Speaker 1>You never know what's going to happen. You have extra

1308
01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:40.720
<v Speaker 1>police for you know, police presence as well for security,

1309
01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:43.800
<v Speaker 1>private security. You have all these things you have to

1310
01:08:43.840 --> 01:08:47.479
<v Speaker 1>do if you organize a big event that's not being

1311
01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:51.560
<v Speaker 1>done at all. And another aspect, another leg of what

1312
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you're describing, I think is real world consequences. You have

1313
01:08:56.640 --> 01:09:01.319
<v Speaker 1>these young people living online where you can do things

1314
01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:04.199
<v Speaker 1>like if I go online and I see someone and

1315
01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I say, oh, you're a stupid, fat piece of shit,

1316
01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:10.279
<v Speaker 1>nothing's gonna happen. What they're gonna do, right, The best

1317
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:12.319
<v Speaker 1>they can do is say some sly shit back to me.

1318
01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:14.720
<v Speaker 1>It makes me look dumb in the comments section. In

1319
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the real world, that guy can punch me in the

1320
01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:20.680
<v Speaker 1>fucking nose, right, So there's the real world consequence. So

1321
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:24.479
<v Speaker 1>they live so much of their time in these online wherever,

1322
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:28.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, these virtual worlds, that when they do end

1323
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:30.880
<v Speaker 1>up in the real world in a situation, and I'm

1324
01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:35.199
<v Speaker 1>sure many of these teens quote unquote teens end up

1325
01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:39.000
<v Speaker 1>scared when they're end up in this fray, in this

1326
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:42.800
<v Speaker 1>big group that has no direction, security or anything, and

1327
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the shit goes sideways. I'm sure they are getting fucking

1328
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.560
<v Speaker 1>scared and traumatized. I wish I hadn't even came by

1329
01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:51.479
<v Speaker 1>this and that, but this is this is what happens

1330
01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:55.239
<v Speaker 1>in real life. There's real world consequences, and I don't

1331
01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:58.880
<v Speaker 1>think they're not thinking about that. Well, yeah, and it

1332
01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:01.000
<v Speaker 1>starts out. I'm sure most of them don't say, hey,

1333
01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:04.199
<v Speaker 1>let's go down there and start to fight and shoot guns. No,

1334
01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:06.000
<v Speaker 1>most of them were like, Hey, this is going to

1335
01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:07.840
<v Speaker 1>be cool. It's going to be a part of this thing.

1336
01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:10.479
<v Speaker 1>Let me record it, put it on my snapchat, put

1337
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:13.399
<v Speaker 1>it on my story or whatever. But then you have

1338
01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:17.039
<v Speaker 1>the bad apples, which is always bad apples, and groups

1339
01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:19.760
<v Speaker 1>of humans. There's always bad apples, and they're the ones

1340
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:22.399
<v Speaker 1>who do the crazy shit. And then the rest of

1341
01:10:22.439 --> 01:10:25.439
<v Speaker 1>it is just pure mayhem because there's no structure or organization.

1342
01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:27.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know there are people out there who could

1343
01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:29.239
<v Speaker 2>be listening, like, well, you know a lot of people

1344
01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:32.600
<v Speaker 2>live in poverty, their single family homes, and they struggle

1345
01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:34.680
<v Speaker 2>to make ends, me much less be able to afford

1346
01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:39.800
<v Speaker 2>dance lessons or traveling ball or music lessons whatever. And

1347
01:10:39.960 --> 01:10:42.279
<v Speaker 2>I understand that. I mean I grew up poor and

1348
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:45.039
<v Speaker 2>being able to take dance class was like a big deal.

1349
01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:49.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean I remember my parents like that was a

1350
01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:54.239
<v Speaker 2>special kind of thing, and them working hard to be

1351
01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:55.840
<v Speaker 2>able to pay for me to go to my dance

1352
01:10:55.840 --> 01:10:59.560
<v Speaker 2>class and get my tap shoes and buy my recital

1353
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:02.640
<v Speaker 2>costume or whatever. It wasn't like I take that lightly.

1354
01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:04.000
<v Speaker 2>And I've been a single parent.

1355
01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I understand.

1356
01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:07.039
<v Speaker 2>Man, it's hard, and you've got kids doing sports or

1357
01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:10.079
<v Speaker 2>something you can't afford to go drop hundreds of dollars

1358
01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:14.720
<v Speaker 2>every couple of months on cleats or shoes, track, spikes whatever.

1359
01:11:14.960 --> 01:11:17.479
<v Speaker 1>A six hundred dollars bat for a damn eight year old.

1360
01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I remember in high school, you know,

1361
01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:23.720
<v Speaker 2>it was like my parents were divorced and all that,

1362
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:26.239
<v Speaker 2>and so when it would come time for like buying,

1363
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I had to buy basketball shoes.

1364
01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:29.079
<v Speaker 1>I ran track.

1365
01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:31.479
<v Speaker 2>I was a sprinter, so I had track. I had

1366
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:34.520
<v Speaker 2>spikes that I ran in, which are you know, different

1367
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:37.039
<v Speaker 2>from just a regular pre of tennis shoes. I ran

1368
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:38.720
<v Speaker 2>cross country. I mean, and you kind of have to

1369
01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:42.920
<v Speaker 2>like have these certain things for each sport, and it's

1370
01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:45.760
<v Speaker 2>expensive and a lot of people can't afford that. But

1371
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:48.119
<v Speaker 2>I think people also failed to realize, you know, there's

1372
01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:50.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot of options out there, and you know, you

1373
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:53.920
<v Speaker 2>may not be church going, but church offers a good

1374
01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:57.920
<v Speaker 2>place for kids to be able to socialize and have events,

1375
01:11:57.960 --> 01:12:00.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, youth groups and they go on track and

1376
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times, like you don't even have to

1377
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:04.479
<v Speaker 2>pay for those. I remember going on church youth group

1378
01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:07.600
<v Speaker 2>trips as a kid to like the Outer Banks of

1379
01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:09.640
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, and I've never been to the Outer Banks,

1380
01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and it was really cool and going to you know,

1381
01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:14.119
<v Speaker 2>like this Baptist kind of camp or whatever for the

1382
01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:16.479
<v Speaker 2>summer with my church, and it was free. It was

1383
01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:19.000
<v Speaker 2>paid for like the church they were able to pay

1384
01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:21.520
<v Speaker 2>for it out of their coffers or raise money to

1385
01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:23.479
<v Speaker 2>send us to this camp. And a lot of the

1386
01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:26.640
<v Speaker 2>kids who went did it come for money, didn't have money.

1387
01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Most communities, especially if you're in a rural area like

1388
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:34.000
<v Speaker 2>in the South even the Midwest, have four h clubs

1389
01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:36.840
<v Speaker 2>that are offered through the county and it's free, you know,

1390
01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:40.920
<v Speaker 2>the Boys and Girls clubs, the Big Brothers and Big Sisters,

1391
01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:43.840
<v Speaker 2>and so there are these resources available that I feel

1392
01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:46.239
<v Speaker 2>like maybe people took more advantage of back in the day,

1393
01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:49.399
<v Speaker 2>and nowadays we're a little more wary because you hear

1394
01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:53.760
<v Speaker 2>these stories of like Scout troop leaders and perverts at

1395
01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:58.079
<v Speaker 2>the church or whatever, and that is a problem and

1396
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:00.560
<v Speaker 2>we should be concerned about that. But I also feel

1397
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:02.520
<v Speaker 2>like you can't raise your kids in a bubble just

1398
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:04.840
<v Speaker 2>because you fear something bad's going to happen to them,

1399
01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:06.960
<v Speaker 2>because something bad could happen anytime, anywhere.

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01:13:07.119 --> 01:13:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, that happened to us a large scale when

1401
01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:12.399
<v Speaker 1>we were growing up, with the kidnappers, with the Adam

1402
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:15.479
<v Speaker 1>Walsh stories and things like that, and the oh, you

1403
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:17.880
<v Speaker 1>can't even let your kid go to toyau now when

1404
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:20.159
<v Speaker 1>you're you know, when you're doing your shopping in the store,

1405
01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:21.880
<v Speaker 1>because I used to go kick in the toy odd

1406
01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was never under my mom's I was never

1407
01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:26.000
<v Speaker 1>right there with her when she was a child. But

1408
01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:28.279
<v Speaker 1>you know where I'm going to be toy.

1409
01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:31.840
<v Speaker 2>All and yeah, I remember being able to just go freely.

1410
01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and play you know. Look. But what I also

1411
01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:38.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't do was destroy the toyau. I didn't tear packages open,

1412
01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't wreck it. I just looked and if it

1413
01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:43.159
<v Speaker 1>was something I could, you know, hold for a minute

1414
01:13:43.239 --> 01:13:46.079
<v Speaker 1>or I would, but put it back. I still had manners.

1415
01:13:46.199 --> 01:13:49.079
<v Speaker 1>See that that's something that seems to be missing as well.

1416
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:52.119
<v Speaker 1>And you'd see the kids acting a full getting a

1417
01:13:52.199 --> 01:13:54.079
<v Speaker 1>bike out and riding it up down the aisle, and

1418
01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I would never do anything like that. But you know,

1419
01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:59.880
<v Speaker 1>we got that where it started chipping away at that.

1420
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Letting your kids go out of your site with no phone,

1421
01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:08.319
<v Speaker 1>no communication, trusting them to be mature enough to do

1422
01:14:08.359 --> 01:14:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the right thing, not harm neighbors property, not talk crazy

1423
01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:14.880
<v Speaker 1>to adults, not cause any kind of problem at all,

1424
01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:17.600
<v Speaker 1>because if you did and it made it, it would

1425
01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:20.800
<v Speaker 1>always make it back to your parents and they would

1426
01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:24.119
<v Speaker 1>bust your ass. The parents wouldn't ask you what those

1427
01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:26.479
<v Speaker 1>people did to you. They would always start with what

1428
01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:29.560
<v Speaker 1>did you do? What did you do to cause a problem?

1429
01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Did you what did you do to make that adult

1430
01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:33.920
<v Speaker 1>notice you in the first I mean that's where that's

1431
01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:36.920
<v Speaker 1>where the conversation would always start. But yeah, I agree

1432
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:39.000
<v Speaker 1>with you. Oh you're making some great pay.

1433
01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:43.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, libraries, public libraries, they offer events for kids.

1434
01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Community centers, diferent community centers. Absolutely.

1435
01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:47.840
<v Speaker 2>And when I mentioned four h you know that's not

1436
01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:49.960
<v Speaker 2>just for farm kids who have a cow they want

1437
01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:53.000
<v Speaker 2>to show up the fair. Anybody can join for age

1438
01:14:53.039 --> 01:14:55.399
<v Speaker 2>and they and they teach kids' life skills and how.

1439
01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:56.079
<v Speaker 1>To grow a garden.

1440
01:14:56.239 --> 01:15:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I remember when I was a journalist interviewing the the

1441
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:03.479
<v Speaker 2>four ah person you know back in my county, and

1442
01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:08.359
<v Speaker 2>they would do sewing classes, cooking classes, they were teaching coding.

1443
01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:10.079
<v Speaker 1>To kids.

1444
01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:13.199
<v Speaker 2>They had like h FEML like coding classes, like teaching

1445
01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:17.880
<v Speaker 2>kids to build websites, teaching them practical skills. So I'm

1446
01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:21.399
<v Speaker 2>just saying, like we as a society have to consider

1447
01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:24.840
<v Speaker 2>these teenagers. We have to get them off their phones

1448
01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:27.479
<v Speaker 2>and get them engaged in some activities. Whether that means

1449
01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:29.680
<v Speaker 2>we need to be able to get them part time

1450
01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:33.840
<v Speaker 2>jobs where they can be out in the world learning skills,

1451
01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:37.399
<v Speaker 2>making a little money. Socializing was that. Remember as a teenager,

1452
01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:38.159
<v Speaker 2>going to work was.

1453
01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Fun, right, You worked with other people your age.

1454
01:15:41.399 --> 01:15:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I got to meet people from other high schools, and

1455
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking it was like fun because when you

1456
01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:49.800
<v Speaker 2>went to work, you were arounded by people of your

1457
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:51.520
<v Speaker 2>own age, and there was a lot of cutting up

1458
01:15:51.560 --> 01:15:54.159
<v Speaker 2>and goofing off, and you kind of had friends at

1459
01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:56.600
<v Speaker 2>work and it made time go by faster and it

1460
01:15:56.640 --> 01:15:57.279
<v Speaker 2>wasn't so bad.

1461
01:15:57.680 --> 01:16:00.640
<v Speaker 1>But back then, you know, there were tire haired worker

1462
01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:03.520
<v Speaker 1>had a fat pension because they worked somewhere for thirty

1463
01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:06.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty five years that had are a comfortable pension. Between

1464
01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:09.399
<v Speaker 1>that and their soci security they could they could actually

1465
01:16:09.399 --> 01:16:13.000
<v Speaker 1>retire and enjoy their life now with the absence of

1466
01:16:13.079 --> 01:16:15.239
<v Speaker 1>true pensions, and we're all left with a four to

1467
01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:18.479
<v Speaker 1>one k that may or may not be there. You

1468
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:21.279
<v Speaker 1>have those same retirees having to go work those jobs,

1469
01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:24.239
<v Speaker 1>part time jobs in those same fields that you're describing.

1470
01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:28.159
<v Speaker 1>You have people don't want to admit it. You have

1471
01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:31.920
<v Speaker 1>legal immigrants taking some of those jobs that you know

1472
01:16:31.960 --> 01:16:35.119
<v Speaker 1>these young people could be taking. It's just, I mean,

1473
01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:39.640
<v Speaker 1>there's so many factors at play here that this is

1474
01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the symptom of all these things. It's all culminating now

1475
01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:49.920
<v Speaker 1>in a way that people seem to not understand as

1476
01:16:49.920 --> 01:16:53.039
<v Speaker 1>to why it's happening. But I've seen these things. I'm

1477
01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:56.880
<v Speaker 1>almost fifty. I've been seeing these things come and grow

1478
01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:00.359
<v Speaker 1>in these societal pressures to just keep on and on.

1479
01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:03.680
<v Speaker 1>And it seems like back in the day, I know

1480
01:17:03.720 --> 01:17:05.800
<v Speaker 1>we say that all the time, but it seems like

1481
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:08.319
<v Speaker 1>they would be addressed, or there at least be a

1482
01:17:08.319 --> 01:17:11.239
<v Speaker 1>conversation about, hey, this is happening now, how do we

1483
01:17:11.279 --> 01:17:11.880
<v Speaker 1>make it better?

1484
01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:14.640
<v Speaker 2>All you hear is about progress and how you know,

1485
01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:17.079
<v Speaker 2>we need to make things better than they were. But honestly,

1486
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:20.640
<v Speaker 2>things were better, they were better before. In many ways,

1487
01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:24.199
<v Speaker 2>progress we've been seeing is not making things better.

1488
01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:26.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not progress because.

1489
01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:28.600
<v Speaker 2>We're where we are right now in the world. I

1490
01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:31.319
<v Speaker 2>hate to say it, but this is where it's not good.

1491
01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:33.079
<v Speaker 2>This is the bad place.

1492
01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:35.199
<v Speaker 1>This isn't good.

1493
01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Thirty years ago, twenty years ago, I didn't think that

1494
01:17:37.640 --> 01:17:40.159
<v Speaker 2>about society. I didn't think like, wow, we are living

1495
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:42.720
<v Speaker 2>in some ship. But we're living in some ship right now.

1496
01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:46.319
<v Speaker 2>And so unless we figure this out, it's just going

1497
01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:50.840
<v Speaker 2>to continue. Just like I said, with the crime that

1498
01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:53.279
<v Speaker 2>is just being allowed to happen just in the streets

1499
01:17:53.359 --> 01:17:56.880
<v Speaker 2>with no consequence, and until we get a cap on that,

1500
01:17:57.439 --> 01:18:00.600
<v Speaker 2>we're headed toward a dangerous place. And if we keep

1501
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:04.119
<v Speaker 2>allowing these team takeovers where it's just gonna keep getting worse,

1502
01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:09.119
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna keep having shootings, kids getting killed, illegal you know,

1503
01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:12.880
<v Speaker 2>illegal guns in the streets. So we really have to

1504
01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:15.640
<v Speaker 2>stop and pause and be like, is all this progress

1505
01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:18.800
<v Speaker 2>that we've been making really working, because it does seem

1506
01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:22.239
<v Speaker 2>like things have gotten worse for us. And I hate

1507
01:18:22.239 --> 01:18:25.600
<v Speaker 2>to be all preachy preachy, but we talk about crime here,

1508
01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:29.119
<v Speaker 2>and it's fairly obvious to me that crime does seem

1509
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:34.880
<v Speaker 2>to be like getting worse. Right, even when they tell

1510
01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:37.800
<v Speaker 2>us it's getting better, I don't see that when.

1511
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:40.720
<v Speaker 1>They say it's getting better statistically that typically they've just

1512
01:18:40.800 --> 01:18:45.039
<v Speaker 1>reclassified the crimes into different categories. So the crime is

1513
01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:48.319
<v Speaker 1>still happening, right, your hat car, your house still getting

1514
01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:50.920
<v Speaker 1>broke into, but now they call it something else, bly

1515
01:18:51.079 --> 01:18:54.359
<v Speaker 1>this and that. Very seldom does crime just sharply drop

1516
01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:58.880
<v Speaker 1>off from quarter to quarter, all right, without some bullshits

1517
01:18:58.920 --> 01:19:00.760
<v Speaker 1>statistical maneuveral.

1518
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:04.159
<v Speaker 2>This is not to say that juveniles haven't always participated

1519
01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:11.199
<v Speaker 2>in like unsavory activities or you know, have have done

1520
01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:13.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of like bad stuff. I mean, you know, you

1521
01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:17.880
<v Speaker 2>get the juvenile delinquent image from the nineteen fifties, the

1522
01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:21.439
<v Speaker 2>rebel without a cause, you know, the little the greaser

1523
01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:25.039
<v Speaker 2>kids whatever. You know, when we were growing up in

1524
01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:27.359
<v Speaker 2>like the eighties and the in the late seventies and

1525
01:19:27.399 --> 01:19:29.319
<v Speaker 2>the early eighties and into the nineties, it was like

1526
01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:33.960
<v Speaker 2>you had these gangs, like youth gangs causing problems. I mean,

1527
01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:38.840
<v Speaker 2>you've had this stuff happening always, But I don't feel

1528
01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:43.319
<v Speaker 2>like you had the violence on the scale you do

1529
01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:47.319
<v Speaker 2>today involving teenagers. I just can't imagine as a kid

1530
01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:50.520
<v Speaker 2>living in today's world and how scary it must be.

1531
01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:54.279
<v Speaker 2>And also, can you imagine when we were that age,

1532
01:19:54.359 --> 01:19:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Dylan fearing going to like a public event because someone

1533
01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:02.399
<v Speaker 2>might pull out a I didn't start shooting. I mean,

1534
01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:04.960
<v Speaker 2>and I know I grew up in the South and

1535
01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:07.399
<v Speaker 2>in the mountains and around a bunch of country kids.

1536
01:20:07.520 --> 01:20:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I remember boys. I say, and I'm not

1537
01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:12.439
<v Speaker 2>trying to be like sexist, but it was just mostly

1538
01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:15.079
<v Speaker 2>the boys. They would have a gun rack in the

1539
01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:17.239
<v Speaker 2>back of their pickup truck in a school parking lot

1540
01:20:17.279 --> 01:20:19.760
<v Speaker 2>with like a rifle and a shotgun because they hunted,

1541
01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:22.039
<v Speaker 2>or they lived on a farm, and they would have

1542
01:20:22.039 --> 01:20:24.600
<v Speaker 2>that on school property and it was like not a

1543
01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:26.880
<v Speaker 2>big deal. They all carried a knife.

1544
01:20:26.600 --> 01:20:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Everybody had a pocket everybody had a pocket knife.

1545
01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Nobody was stabbing anybody at school. No nobody shot anybody

1546
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:37.239
<v Speaker 2>at school. They would teach a guns safety classes to kids.

1547
01:20:37.439 --> 01:20:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was a whole thing. So they had

1548
01:20:41.640 --> 01:20:44.880
<v Speaker 2>access to guns. It's not like, well, we just didn't

1549
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:47.560
<v Speaker 2>have access to guns back then, because we absolutely did.

1550
01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:49.600
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people grew up in a home

1551
01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:50.840
<v Speaker 2>where guns were prevalent.

1552
01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:52.520
<v Speaker 1>You hunted, you.

1553
01:20:52.439 --> 01:20:54.479
<v Speaker 2>Fished, I mean, Like I've said before, I grew up

1554
01:20:54.479 --> 01:20:57.680
<v Speaker 2>in the in a damn country, redneck family where everybody

1555
01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:01.760
<v Speaker 2>was hunting, coon hunting, dog you got damn hound dogs.

1556
01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:05.079
<v Speaker 2>He's bear hunting, he's squirrel hunting. There's turkey hunting, there's

1557
01:21:05.159 --> 01:21:08.399
<v Speaker 2>deer hunting. Somebody was always doing some kind of hunting, right,

1558
01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:11.239
<v Speaker 2>And I grew up with a damn arsenal of guns around.

1559
01:21:10.960 --> 01:21:13.479
<v Speaker 1>All the damn time. Your mama out hunting your daddy

1560
01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:14.760
<v Speaker 1>up and well she.

1561
01:21:14.800 --> 01:21:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Did that at a time or two as well before

1562
01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:19.560
<v Speaker 2>they got divorced. Hell, my granny loved to go hunting

1563
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:20.239
<v Speaker 2>down my papeole.

1564
01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:20.560
<v Speaker 1>She was.

1565
01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:23.359
<v Speaker 2>That's a story for another time. But my nanny, for

1566
01:21:23.399 --> 01:21:25.760
<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, was always convinced that my papa was cheating

1567
01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:29.000
<v Speaker 2>on her. When he would be hunting and he'd be

1568
01:21:29.039 --> 01:21:30.800
<v Speaker 2>with my dad and my uncle and they would go hunting,

1569
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:32.439
<v Speaker 2>and she'd be like, in the wood. She would like

1570
01:21:32.439 --> 01:21:34.720
<v Speaker 2>to make me go around looking for him because she

1571
01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:37.439
<v Speaker 2>was convinced. This is how crazy she was. I love

1572
01:21:37.479 --> 01:21:39.279
<v Speaker 2>the woman, she was my best friend and I miss

1573
01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:41.560
<v Speaker 2>her every day. But she'd be like, I bet you

1574
01:21:41.640 --> 01:21:44.439
<v Speaker 2>he's down there at that apartment with that old woman.

1575
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:47.239
<v Speaker 2>There was this lady who waited tables at this breakfast

1576
01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:50.880
<v Speaker 2>joint that they went to every morning they ate breakfast here,

1577
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:53.640
<v Speaker 2>and she was convinced that my papa on this waitress

1578
01:21:53.640 --> 01:21:54.199
<v Speaker 2>had this thing.

1579
01:21:54.079 --> 01:21:55.479
<v Speaker 1>Going on shew where she lived.

1580
01:21:55.479 --> 01:21:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, And I remember we would drive by that

1581
01:21:57.199 --> 01:21:58.800
<v Speaker 2>woman's house and she'd be like, is this car?

1582
01:21:58.840 --> 01:21:59.800
<v Speaker 1>There is this truck there.

1583
01:22:00.039 --> 01:22:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, are you kidneys in the woods somewhere with

1584
01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:05.840
<v Speaker 2>a damn law they're lost dogs in the woods and

1585
01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:07.760
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to track down a bunch of damn hound dogs.

1586
01:22:07.800 --> 01:22:08.359
<v Speaker 2>And what are you talking?

1587
01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Because this man's been waiting for opening day of hunting

1588
01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:12.600
<v Speaker 1>whatever hunting season.

1589
01:22:13.239 --> 01:22:15.439
<v Speaker 2>The entire day they've been waiting to train these dogs.

1590
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:20.560
<v Speaker 2>They're in the woods shooting at coons, tree and coons raccoons,

1591
01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:23.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, which is a thing people like to go

1592
01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:26.199
<v Speaker 2>raccoon hunting, which is like weird, but I've done it before.

1593
01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:30.039
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying, like, so we've always had access

1594
01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:34.039
<v Speaker 2>to guns, but I just can't imagine, you know, fearing

1595
01:22:34.159 --> 01:22:37.560
<v Speaker 2>that I'm going to the prom Saturday night and somebody

1596
01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:39.000
<v Speaker 2>could pull out a gun and start shooting.

1597
01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, see, the guns and knives were always there, even

1598
01:22:43.319 --> 01:22:46.479
<v Speaker 1>more so I would say in many instances depend on

1599
01:22:46.520 --> 01:22:49.760
<v Speaker 1>where you grew up, obviously, but the willingness of your

1600
01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:54.439
<v Speaker 1>fellow student to want to harm you, that's what wasn't there, right.

1601
01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:57.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's not to say I remember calling by changed

1602
01:22:57.800 --> 01:22:58.399
<v Speaker 1>this country.

1603
01:22:58.439 --> 01:23:00.319
<v Speaker 2>It definitely did, But even.

1604
01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:03.039
<v Speaker 1>After Columbine, I still didn't carry which I was. I

1605
01:23:03.119 --> 01:23:06.359
<v Speaker 1>was older, and I was out of school when I

1606
01:23:06.399 --> 01:23:11.880
<v Speaker 1>basically got out of school. But I don't remember parents

1607
01:23:11.880 --> 01:23:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and everyone fearing that that was that was a one off,

1608
01:23:15.119 --> 01:23:18.880
<v Speaker 1>that was an outlier, that was something totally uh for

1609
01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:22.279
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason. And we spent many as a society of

1610
01:23:22.359 --> 01:23:25.640
<v Speaker 1>discussions and trying to figure out why. But it was just,

1611
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:28.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, someone was these two kids or something

1612
01:23:28.439 --> 01:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>was really wrong with them. And then I hate Mondays

1613
01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>obviously goes back even further than that. That girl Brenda,

1614
01:23:34.439 --> 01:23:37.439
<v Speaker 1>she shot shot the elementary school up from her across

1615
01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:40.520
<v Speaker 1>from her house. So I mean, it's not like it

1616
01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:43.359
<v Speaker 1>was never there, the idea of it, but it just

1617
01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:46.479
<v Speaker 1>didn't happen on such a mass scale, and you have

1618
01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to ask yourself why what changed so much? I have

1619
01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:54.800
<v Speaker 1>some ideas, we'll go into it some other time. I

1620
01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:58.119
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's organic I'll say that I don't. In

1621
01:23:58.199 --> 01:24:02.159
<v Speaker 1>many instances, I think it's it's not organic, it's not

1622
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:06.039
<v Speaker 1>just happening. Could it be all the medicines and things

1623
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that we take nowadays? Some people think yes, I mean, gosh,

1624
01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:12.479
<v Speaker 1>they can't make a thing for toenail fungus without it

1625
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>causing suicidal thoughts and ideations. It's like, do you have

1626
01:24:16.680 --> 01:24:20.279
<v Speaker 1>y'all come across any group of medicines that doesn't cause

1627
01:24:20.319 --> 01:24:23.039
<v Speaker 1>suicidal thoughts, because that's every fucking hop hour.

1628
01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:25.880
<v Speaker 2>The medication has the most strange side effects as well,

1629
01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:28.920
<v Speaker 2>like oh, you could experience anal leakage, and it's like

1630
01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:33.279
<v Speaker 2>this is a cholesterol medicines, I'll just have high anyway,

1631
01:24:33.479 --> 01:24:34.880
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's bring this Homeheather.

1632
01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>We'll leave him with a Yeah. So I agree with you.

1633
01:24:38.039 --> 01:24:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if curfews are the answer. I mean,

1634
01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:43.680
<v Speaker 2>part of me things good solution. But at the end

1635
01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:46.199
<v Speaker 2>of the day, my thought is where are the parents

1636
01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:47.279
<v Speaker 2>when all this is going on?

1637
01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Whether that that is also a huge factor in this because.

1638
01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:54.119
<v Speaker 2>If I had said, like my mom, I'm going to

1639
01:24:54.239 --> 01:24:57.279
<v Speaker 2>a team takeover in downtown, it would have been no,

1640
01:24:57.359 --> 01:25:00.920
<v Speaker 2>you're not well. See, that's the thing My parents wanted

1641
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:05.159
<v Speaker 2>to know where I was, who I was with, when

1642
01:25:05.199 --> 01:25:08.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be home, who I was going to

1643
01:25:08.560 --> 01:25:08.960
<v Speaker 2>be there.

1644
01:25:09.159 --> 01:25:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Your parents gave you a curfew. You didn't need the yes,

1645
01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:14.199
<v Speaker 1>you didn't need the local municipality.

1646
01:25:14.399 --> 01:25:19.880
<v Speaker 2>There was no tomfoolery. And I know for generations kids

1647
01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:22.119
<v Speaker 2>have lie to their parents about what they're round about doing.

1648
01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:23.600
<v Speaker 2>But I guess I just had the fear of God

1649
01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:26.439
<v Speaker 2>in me because I did not. If I said I

1650
01:25:26.479 --> 01:25:28.800
<v Speaker 2>was going to this place, that's where I went. I

1651
01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:29.439
<v Speaker 2>knew better.

1652
01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:31.439
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to do anything.

1653
01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I knew better than to pull some shenanigans because I

1654
01:25:34.039 --> 01:25:37.520
<v Speaker 2>knew what the repercussions were going to be. So again,

1655
01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I just think, where are the parents when all this

1656
01:25:39.840 --> 01:25:45.079
<v Speaker 2>is happening? It's it's there's all these there's a lot

1657
01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:48.840
<v Speaker 2>of factors. I think parenting, I think social media boredom.

1658
01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:52.560
<v Speaker 2>So when people, especially when I say people like politicians

1659
01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:55.039
<v Speaker 2>are standing around scratching their heads.

1660
01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Like what's happening?

1661
01:25:56.760 --> 01:25:58.880
<v Speaker 2>What? What can we do to fix this? Why is

1662
01:25:58.960 --> 01:26:02.920
<v Speaker 2>this happening? It's like you stupid because I'm just as

1663
01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:04.800
<v Speaker 2>a regular person and I can give you ten reasons

1664
01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:05.520
<v Speaker 2>why it's happening.

1665
01:26:05.640 --> 01:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, bring back the know this doesn't have to We.

1666
01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Don't have to invest forty million dollars in study to

1667
01:26:11.600 --> 01:26:12.840
<v Speaker 2>figure out why this is happening.

1668
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>No, bring back the middle class. Support it through policies

1669
01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:19.640
<v Speaker 1>that bring in good jobs, consumer protections, all these things

1670
01:26:19.720 --> 01:26:24.319
<v Speaker 1>that protect the citizen from the system, and you're going

1671
01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:27.239
<v Speaker 1>to magically see that as these good jobs and things

1672
01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>like the economy are real economy, not this bullshit that's

1673
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:35.439
<v Speaker 1>just measured by the stock marketing market. Yeah, that really

1674
01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>was not a thing back in the day either. The

1675
01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:42.439
<v Speaker 1>health of companies was viewed about how happy their workers

1676
01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:45.039
<v Speaker 1>were and how you know, productive they were and things

1677
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>like that. But so, yeah, it's not it's ridiculous. So

1678
01:26:49.399 --> 01:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that's what leads me to believe it's intentional. This is

1679
01:26:53.039 --> 01:26:56.199
<v Speaker 1>what they want while they live in their ivory towers

1680
01:26:56.239 --> 01:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>behind their gates, and they can. I mean, gosh, I

1681
01:26:58.840 --> 01:26:59.479
<v Speaker 1>always say and.

1682
01:26:59.560 --> 01:27:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Tell you this is normal. This is part of living

1683
01:27:02.079 --> 01:27:02.600
<v Speaker 2>in a city.

1684
01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Suck it up and deal with it. Yeah, it's Elysium.

1685
01:27:05.520 --> 01:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>If you don't never seen that movie, go watch that movie.

1686
01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:10.479
<v Speaker 1>There's been many like it. But I think it really

1687
01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:16.239
<v Speaker 1>it really just lays out the elites versus us, and

1688
01:27:16.239 --> 01:27:17.039
<v Speaker 1>that's what they want.

1689
01:27:17.319 --> 01:27:19.880
<v Speaker 2>It goes back to like lords and serfs.

1690
01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you can't tell, we're headed back to a

1691
01:27:23.399 --> 01:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>serfdom and that's what they want. I don't know what

1692
01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:31.319
<v Speaker 1>to tell you, because all they tell you is you'll

1693
01:27:31.359 --> 01:27:35.159
<v Speaker 1>own nothing and like it is basically their attitude.

1694
01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:37.039
<v Speaker 2>And you will deal with this crime and you'll like it.

1695
01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:39.479
<v Speaker 1>You have a pay as you go. You have young

1696
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>people that are doing pay as you go for to

1697
01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>order a pizza. They're breaking up a twenty five dollars

1698
01:27:44.680 --> 01:27:48.239
<v Speaker 1>pizza order into payment for payment with interest, with interest.

1699
01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:52.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, think about that. All right, let's wrap this up.

1700
01:27:52.479 --> 01:27:53.159
<v Speaker 1>That's called Caesars.

1701
01:27:53.199 --> 01:27:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Ain't got their five dollar pizza no more.

1702
01:27:56.279 --> 01:28:00.279
<v Speaker 1>We'll wrap this up, and we hope we didn't preach

1703
01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>too much. But I think it was an interesting conversation.

1704
01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Look, I'm passionate sometimes, Dylan. I can't help myself.

1705
01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:08.199
<v Speaker 1>Lots of PBS people know that.

1706
01:28:08.279 --> 01:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I think our listeners know that we're both very passionate individuals.

1707
01:28:12.520 --> 01:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the day, it's because I care.

1708
01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Because I really do care so much about the world

1709
01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:21.199
<v Speaker 2>we live in. I care about my neighbors, I care

1710
01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:24.560
<v Speaker 2>about my community. I care about my country, I care

1711
01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:27.439
<v Speaker 2>about people, and I just want the best for people.

1712
01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to live in a society where

1713
01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:33.439
<v Speaker 2>we're all afraid all the time and stressed out and

1714
01:28:33.479 --> 01:28:36.960
<v Speaker 2>everything sucks and we're all miserable and we're all like

1715
01:28:37.680 --> 01:28:40.399
<v Speaker 2>hanging on by a thread, about to fucking lose it,

1716
01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:42.760
<v Speaker 2>because we all are. Let's be honest. I don't know

1717
01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:45.760
<v Speaker 2>anybody who's like, I'm so happy, my life is great,

1718
01:28:46.079 --> 01:28:48.119
<v Speaker 2>and I really want to get to a point where

1719
01:28:48.159 --> 01:28:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel just bliss. But it's hard, you know, And

1720
01:28:51.720 --> 01:28:54.279
<v Speaker 2>you can't turn the mind out of these things. And

1721
01:28:54.359 --> 01:28:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I just want what's best for the world and for people,

1722
01:28:57.359 --> 01:28:59.319
<v Speaker 2>and I just we have got to get a handle

1723
01:28:59.319 --> 01:29:00.199
<v Speaker 2>on some of this stuff.

1724
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's on us. We're the only ones that are

1725
01:29:01.920 --> 01:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>going to do it, do the right thing, what's best

1726
01:29:03.840 --> 01:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>for us. We need a mountain Murder's army.

1727
01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:08.479
<v Speaker 2>We gotta raise up and do better.

1728
01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and stand together and just put your shirt above

1729
01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:14.119
<v Speaker 1>your head and wave it like a helicopter, not your penis.

1730
01:29:14.199 --> 01:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and if you see some weirdo doing some weird

1731
01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>shit in public, grab you a couple of friends and

1732
01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:23.239
<v Speaker 2>remedy that situation. We're going to get a handle on it.

1733
01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Bring shame back, yes, get a bell, walk them through

1734
01:29:26.840 --> 01:29:31.039
<v Speaker 2>the streets. Shame, shame, shame, shame.

1735
01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, So you guys, I love you.

1736
01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:37.119
<v Speaker 2>We're sorry that we are like this.

1737
01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:39.439
<v Speaker 1>No, it's okay. I can't help it, and I will

1738
01:29:39.479 --> 01:29:42.119
<v Speaker 1>go do my part for society in a little bit

1739
01:29:42.880 --> 01:29:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and move your products through our logistics system. This is

1740
01:29:47.680 --> 01:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>my part, is what I do.

1741
01:29:49.239 --> 01:29:51.720
<v Speaker 2>This is what I do is I try to spread

1742
01:29:51.720 --> 01:29:52.840
<v Speaker 2>a message.

1743
01:29:53.279 --> 01:29:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Okay, the message of your people, the message of my people.

1744
01:29:56.640 --> 01:30:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, maybe my message is not clear, maybe my message

1745
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:04.319
<v Speaker 2>which gets misconstrued. Maybe people don't like my message. But

1746
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:08.920
<v Speaker 2>that's all I got, folks, is a mouth. And people

1747
01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:11.359
<v Speaker 2>ask what did that mouth do? And I tell them

1748
01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:12.399
<v Speaker 2>it podcasts.

1749
01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:15.359
<v Speaker 1>It sure is a mouth. It podcasts. All right. So

1750
01:30:15.479 --> 01:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>until next time Heather has this.

1751
01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:19.319
<v Speaker 2>We've got Larry Flint Part two.

1752
01:30:19.279 --> 01:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Larry Party draping that this week.

1753
01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:24.319
<v Speaker 2>We have some other cases in the works. I've got

1754
01:30:24.399 --> 01:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>like three or four cases I'm working on right Dylan,

1755
01:30:26.600 --> 01:30:33.760
<v Speaker 2>And they're all just doozies, man, Okay, I'm telling you.

1756
01:30:34.600 --> 01:30:36.840
<v Speaker 2>And of course it's so important to remember victims in

1757
01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:37.479
<v Speaker 2>these cases.

1758
01:30:37.800 --> 01:30:38.439
<v Speaker 1>It really is.

1759
01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:41.079
<v Speaker 2>And so we do have a lot to talk about

1760
01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:43.159
<v Speaker 2>coming up in the in the next few weeks. I'm

1761
01:30:43.199 --> 01:30:45.479
<v Speaker 2>always open to case suggestions. I've actually had a few

1762
01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:47.159
<v Speaker 2>folks reach out and say, hey, I would love for

1763
01:30:47.199 --> 01:30:51.359
<v Speaker 2>you to look into this. Something's going on, there's this case,

1764
01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:56.359
<v Speaker 2>and I do take those into consideration. Oftentimes, maybe there's

1765
01:30:56.399 --> 01:30:59.600
<v Speaker 2>not enough information to have a full on episode. But

1766
01:30:59.640 --> 01:31:02.520
<v Speaker 2>if you like to hear from folks, Mountain Murders Podcast

1767
01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:05.119
<v Speaker 2>at gmail dot com. You can also drop by our

1768
01:31:05.159 --> 01:31:09.600
<v Speaker 2>website Mountain Murderspodcast dot com, where you can access our Patreon.

1769
01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:12.279
<v Speaker 2>If you would like to support the show, you can

1770
01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:14.600
<v Speaker 2>sign up for as little as five books a month.

1771
01:31:14.720 --> 01:31:16.760
<v Speaker 2>And you know you would spend that on a cup

1772
01:31:16.760 --> 01:31:20.359
<v Speaker 2>of coffee, It's true, or a really bad fast food

1773
01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:22.720
<v Speaker 2>cheeseburger that's going to have you on the toilet for

1774
01:31:22.760 --> 01:31:23.199
<v Speaker 2>three days.

1775
01:31:23.199 --> 01:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>And we're more satisfying than that, exactly.

1776
01:31:26.720 --> 01:31:29.159
<v Speaker 2>And you're supporting the show, You're keeping the lights on,

1777
01:31:29.239 --> 01:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>you're keeping the podcast going, and we appreciate that so

1778
01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>much because we do really enjoy getting to sit down

1779
01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:39.560
<v Speaker 2>every week and talk about cases and connecting with our listeners.

1780
01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:42.359
<v Speaker 1>It's true, and it's one of the only reasons that.

1781
01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Eight plus years later, we're still doing this and.

1782
01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>We have a merch shop which you can also access

1783
01:31:47.760 --> 01:31:50.560
<v Speaker 2>from the website, and we have some cute designs on there.

1784
01:31:51.720 --> 01:31:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Got to stop by, especially if you was raised up

1785
01:31:54.279 --> 01:31:56.399
<v Speaker 2>a holler. We got some shirts that'll let people know

1786
01:31:56.399 --> 01:31:57.439
<v Speaker 2>you was raised up a holler.

1787
01:31:58.399 --> 01:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, So until this week's case, we will be here.

1788
01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:05.159
<v Speaker 1>And don't I'm gonna be in this chair waiting.

1789
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Don't let the perverts parade, not kick their ass. Do

1790
01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:14.359
<v Speaker 2>not wave your genitals at people in public places.

1791
01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Only if they want to.

1792
01:32:15.079 --> 01:32:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Do not cut them off instead. I mean, I just

1793
01:32:19.680 --> 01:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>can't imagine I've cut off my titty and set it

1794
01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:22.680
<v Speaker 2>on fire in the garage.

1795
01:32:22.800 --> 01:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Please help, Oh my god, hold titty.

1796
01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Bar is a left one. It's my least favorite titty.

1797
01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:31.079
<v Speaker 2>It keeps getting in the way you're gonna keep your

1798
01:32:31.119 --> 01:32:33.199
<v Speaker 2>f It's a lazy titty. It's the one that always

1799
01:32:33.239 --> 01:32:35.439
<v Speaker 2>like rolls up under my arm, but when I'm sleeping.

1800
01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:36.439
<v Speaker 1>It's got a lazy titty.

1801
01:32:36.439 --> 01:32:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I got lazy titty, all right. Bye Dylan, Bye,