Speaker 1: Check it out.
Speaker 2: But Joe Logan Experience Train by Day, Joe Rogan Podcast
Speaker 2: by Night all Day. Yeah, the thing is about that
Speaker 2: photo of the moon that they do with the phones.
Speaker 2: They found out that that's kind of bullshit.
Speaker 1: No, show you some money.
Speaker 2: I know I took it too, But what it is
Speaker 2: is it's a I and so what what someone did, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what someone did online, one of them clever kids. They
Speaker 2: took a very blurry photo of a of the moon
Speaker 2: and they put it on a screen across the room
Speaker 2: and then they zoomed in on it as if it's
Speaker 2: the moon, and the camera showed detailed craters.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm DestinE, I'm talking. I'm talking about like this,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, that's a real picture, so that you just
Speaker 2: use the one hundred ck zoom.
Speaker 1: Yeah you didn't use the moon. No, because there's a
Speaker 1: moon shot standing outside.
Speaker 2: There's a moonshot aspect to that.
Speaker 1: That I gotta check that. I didn't know about that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you zoom in on it, zoom in on
Speaker 2: the moon, and okay, I don't think that's real. See
Speaker 2: that's what I'm talking about. I think that's AI.
Speaker 1: The AI create recreates it yeah really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know I was showing off fatally. Yea,
Speaker 2: I have the twenty two. I think the S twenty
Speaker 2: two Ultra. Yeah, I had the older one, and I
Speaker 2: would take photos.
Speaker 1: Of the moon.
Speaker 2: I'm like, look, iPhone's bullshit. I can't do this.
Speaker 1: But it turned out it looks like I got fooled.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, because he's you can't hide stuff like
Speaker 2: that on the internet. Technology stuff.
Speaker 1: Those guys are too good. They know everything.
Speaker 2: They know everything. Yeah, but we were just talking about
Speaker 2: the difference. I'm really thinking about switching to Android. I'm
Speaker 2: just tired of being trapped and it's just like this resisted.
Speaker 2: Everybody's like, don't do that. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: it's like a mind virus. Like everybody's like culturally locked
Speaker 2: in having a blue bubble.
Speaker 1: Well, when you tell them you're going to switch from Apple,
Speaker 1: then agent Smith shows up from the matrix that inhabits
Speaker 1: their body, and they turn try to tell you to
Speaker 1: stop doing it. Don't do it, like try to yeah,
Speaker 1: convince you not to leave.
Speaker 2: It's like if you're a Catholic and you said I'm
Speaker 2: gonna become a Baptist, people are don't do it. Don't
Speaker 2: do it, Like, what are you talking about? It's not
Speaker 2: that much different.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's weird. People get they get weird with everything.
Speaker 2: They get weird with their beliefs, they get weird with
Speaker 2: what they subscribe, what group they attach themselves to. It's
Speaker 2: so strange. And I think this is a good way
Speaker 2: to segue into like what you do. And because these subjects,
Speaker 2: so many of these subjects, so many people have like
Speaker 2: an instantaneous reaction. That instantaneous reaction is oh hogwash. If
Speaker 2: this was true, I would already know about it. It
Speaker 2: would be taught in universities, it would all be. But
Speaker 2: then you find out like no one is really just
Speaker 2: kind of trying to piece stuff together, specifically talking about
Speaker 2: these ancient tablets, which are to me some of the
Speaker 2: most interesting things about ancient history, particularly what came out
Speaker 2: of ancient Sumara, Ancient Sumara when you look at their
Speaker 2: tablets and like, what are they saying and why would
Speaker 2: they dedicate so much time to talking about this stuff exactly?
Speaker 2: Why do they have pictures of giant look enormous people
Speaker 2: looking things with like a humanoid with a tail sitting
Speaker 2: on their lap, Like what is this just fiction? Like
Speaker 2: why would they detail this? And how do they have
Speaker 2: a representation of the Solar system with the correct amount
Speaker 2: of planets and relatively the correct order in size. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not exact, but it's an artistic version of the
Speaker 2: real thing. And how the hell, how the hell, how
Speaker 2: the hell six thousand, five thousand years ago do they
Speaker 2: know that? And what explanations do we have, Like what's
Speaker 2: the conventional explanations when people tried to dismiss what they
Speaker 2: knew in ancient Sumar, Well.
Speaker 1: The conventional explanation is always going through the term mythology.
Speaker 1: They throw mythology around, you know, left and right to
Speaker 1: cover up the fact that they have no clue or idea,
Speaker 1: So they turn it into mythology so they can kind
Speaker 1: of say it's all fantasy and fairy tales and this
Speaker 1: is how they express themselves or how they understood the universe.
Speaker 1: It's all mythology, it's all fake. But in reality, it's
Speaker 1: not all fake. These people left behind such detailed records
Speaker 1: and information. It's a time capsule of information on stone
Speaker 1: tablets for us today to be able to decipher, breakdown
Speaker 1: and understand. And that's what we're here to do now.
Speaker 2: When you look at these ancient languages like cunit form.
Speaker 2: Can you read that? Do you know how to read it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? A small amount of it, Yeah, studying in some
Speaker 1: books that I have bought right off of Amazon. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So basically, you take a you take a stick. It
Speaker 1: looks like a stick with a kind of a curved end, right,
Speaker 1: almost sharp, and it's called a stylus, and then use
Speaker 1: like a stylus for an iPad exactly very similar, right,
Speaker 1: And then you take a piece of wet clay, and
Speaker 1: right before it's too wet or too dry, right in
Speaker 1: the middle stage, you then start wedging, making these incredible
Speaker 1: lines into the clay, and then from that you get
Speaker 1: this cuneiform text. So this text literally you know some
Speaker 1: of them, some of the letters actually relate to complete ideas.
Speaker 1: But it's incredible work and it takes a long time
Speaker 1: to do, and then you have to let this thing
Speaker 1: dry and then it becomes stone. So you know what,
Speaker 1: if people were supposed to be trying to worry about
Speaker 1: how they're going to get their next meal, shelter for
Speaker 1: the night, and all these kind of things, who has
Speaker 1: time to sit down and write these incredible works of
Speaker 1: art like the Epic of Gilgamesh, for example. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they really were writing down and also they were
Speaker 1: transcribing information that was given to them by these quote
Speaker 1: unquote gods with the lower case G.
Speaker 2: So when you're reading things like the Epic of Gilgamesh,
Speaker 2: the Epic of Gilgamash, for people don't know, is one
Speaker 2: of the oldest versions of a lot of the stories
Speaker 2: that you hear in the Bible, very similar to them.
Speaker 2: They seem to be there always seems to be a
Speaker 2: great flood, there's a few heroes, there's angry gods. There's
Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff going on. And Zachari Sitchin's work
Speaker 2: was like the most controversial on the Sumerian text, right
Speaker 2: because there's a whole website called Sitchin is Wrong dot com,
Speaker 2: Like people go crazy about him. But when he starts
Speaker 2: talking about it, when you read some of the things
Speaker 2: that they wrote, and when you see, like some of
Speaker 2: the images that they created, the images that looked like
Speaker 2: the double helix from DNA, and there's a bunch of
Speaker 2: the like that now we represent the cadusius, which represents
Speaker 2: pharmacies and drugs, Like that's the old version of an
Speaker 2: image of the double helix of DNA, or at least
Speaker 2: it looks super similar to that.
Speaker 1: Oh, it definitely is, because it's reference even in the
Speaker 1: Egyptian Book of the Dead and other ancient texts. So
Speaker 1: there's no coincidences here. Now, Zacharia Sitchin, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't particularly go by his work, not because it's controversial.
Speaker 1: I believe he was one of the greatest researchers of
Speaker 1: all time. And the reason why is because he laid
Speaker 1: out so much information for us to begin to scratch
Speaker 1: aurhead and ask questions. But what I figured out was
Speaker 1: that by going through the usc L UCLA CDLIE Online
Speaker 1: Cuneiform Digital Library, say that past ten times, I was
Speaker 1: able to take stone tablets and decipher them myself. So
Speaker 1: anyone can go online to the UCLA CDLI Online Cuneiform
Speaker 1: Digital Library and read these stone tablets for themselves. You
Speaker 1: don't need zach rization, you don't need anyone else. And
Speaker 1: as I began to break these tablets down, do.
Speaker 2: They have them transcribed or are you reading the actual tablet? You?
Speaker 1: Can they transcribe them? They actually transcribe them into English
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: Is there controversy as far as like, are there different
Speaker 2: versions of the transcription link to some people think and
Speaker 2: it's interpreted differently. Is like some debate about that.
Speaker 1: Only where it comes to where some of the textas missing.
Speaker 1: There could be piece chipped off of tablets. You see
Speaker 1: that corner missing from that tablet right there, And.
Speaker 2: Just look how wild is that? Just how wild is
Speaker 2: that that that exists and that this was It's so
Speaker 2: hard for people to put in their brain five thousand
Speaker 2: years of time and that there's these people that are
Speaker 2: this very bizarre life language. Like when you look at that,
Speaker 2: we don't even know what it sounds like.
Speaker 1: Right right, No, And the language popped up out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about action that carried out of nothing.
Speaker 2: It looks like computer code, it does, doesn't it?
Speaker 1: Yes, it does.
Speaker 2: I just imagine like a human being deciding that they
Speaker 2: were going to write down in these very bizarre and
Speaker 2: they all agreed that all these things mean a certain thing.
Speaker 2: So they had to somehow or another have a Rosetta
Speaker 2: stone or something where they're documenting it so that people
Speaker 2: can learn it and teach it. And then we're looking
Speaker 2: at it five thousand years later. Yeah, it's so amazing
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: And what's incredible is this text was translated in eighteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: long before Zachar Roistitchen was born. So there are some,
Speaker 1: you know, some rumors that, oh, he was the only
Speaker 1: one that could decipher these tablets. Will know George Smith
Speaker 1: who worked as a seriologist and wrote many books and
Speaker 1: deciphered these Samarian tablets in the eighteen hundreds. So we're
Speaker 1: talking about texts that had been deciphered for a few
Speaker 1: hundred year years. Nothing that was just deciphered recently.
Speaker 2: So when what are the first decipherings? Like what year
Speaker 2: was the first deciphering?
Speaker 1: It was an eighteen hundred I don't have that. I
Speaker 1: think round eighteen hundred and fifty. George Smith he actually
Speaker 1: worked at the it was Cambridge.
Speaker 2: What was his take like when he's reading all these
Speaker 2: wacky stories and all the Ananaki stuff, Like, what's.
Speaker 1: His take on it? He is literally subscribing to this
Speaker 1: information the way almost that you and I see it today.
Speaker 1: These people saw something, experience something, interacted with something, and
Speaker 1: he cataloged it and it inspired him to write a
Speaker 1: complete translation of the numit Elish and the Seventh Tablets
Speaker 1: of Creation. And he talks about the fact that that
Speaker 1: information was copied right from those tablets and put into
Speaker 1: the Old Testament of the Bible, and so, you know,
Speaker 1: not exactly like it's going to go from here to
Speaker 1: the Bible, but it went into other ancient papyruses and
Speaker 1: scriptures and so forth. And then later on when it
Speaker 1: was discovered in caves, people took those and then said, okay,
Speaker 1: we got to put this into a book, and then
Speaker 1: it became the Bible much later, around one hundred a d.
Speaker 1: But he subscribed to the theory that these people interacted
Speaker 1: with beings in some way, ship or form, and that
Speaker 1: also this information is so incredible that it became part
Speaker 1: of the you know, the Biblical text.
Speaker 2: Did you ever read the Dead Sea Scrolls?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Dead Sea Scrolls? Was it found in?
Speaker 2: What year?
Speaker 1: Was that?
Speaker 2: It was in kum Ran?
Speaker 1: Right, they found the Kumran, but I think again this
Speaker 1: was this was also I believe in the late eighteen
Speaker 1: hundreds of early nineteen hundreds is when they found them.
Speaker 2: So these things are written on animal skins, and this
Speaker 2: is the only I mean, this is a very old
Speaker 2: version of those exact same stories or some of similar stories. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of weirdness in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Speaker 2: I haven't read it, but is there any references to
Speaker 2: anything that's similar, like Aonachi type characters, the Nephilim or
Speaker 2: anything like that.
Speaker 1: In the Dead Sea Scrolls they show up everywhere, and
Speaker 1: the Dead Sea Scrolls and the New mean Elish and
Speaker 1: the Epigabatrosses. Of course, even in the Bible, they're known
Speaker 1: as the anak a n a k. We were grasshoppers
Speaker 1: in their eyesight, it says in the Biblical text. So
Speaker 1: no matter where you go in any culture, you're going
Speaker 1: to discover that these beings, in some way, shape or
Speaker 1: form engaged mankind, brought knowledge, teaching, building techniques, and just
Speaker 1: so much more wisdom, information, esoteric wisdom, alchemy. All these
Speaker 1: things came from these people.
Speaker 2: So the craziest version of this story is that they
Speaker 2: genetically engineered us out of lower primates and put us
Speaker 2: here to mind gold and then established different types of
Speaker 2: civilizations and taught us how to build things, taught us
Speaker 2: all these different things, and enough time has passed that
Speaker 2: we've kind of forgotten enough time. That's the wackiest fresh.
Speaker 1: Number, right right right, that's the bare bones minimum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the wackiest versions that they made us, which is
Speaker 2: We've talked about this a couple of times, but how
Speaker 2: bizarre it is that human beings have this incredible fascination
Speaker 2: for gold. We're fascinated with gold. This fascination with gold
Speaker 2: is really weird. Like why back when it was basically useless,
Speaker 2: you couldn't make a knife out of it. You couldn't,
Speaker 2: you know, like, it didn't make sense that this would
Speaker 2: be so valuable just because it's rare. You're barely alive.
Speaker 2: You know, we're going you know, right, We're going back
Speaker 2: to full on hunter and gather our ancestors with spears
Speaker 2: and stone chipped. And then after that gold emerges and
Speaker 2: it stays, it stays forever. Now, when you read Zacharai
Speaker 2: Sichen's book, he talks about this in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2: His description of it was that they needed to suspend
Speaker 2: gold particles in the atmosphere because their atmosphere is being destroyed.
Speaker 2: Then you move to like somewhere around the two thousands,
Speaker 2: when climate scientists start proposing this idea of suspending reflective
Speaker 2: particles in the atmosphere and realize the unique properties of gold.
Speaker 2: How unusual it is in terms of like a building material.
Speaker 2: You can coat things. The reason why things are like
Speaker 2: coated in gold, silver plate, gold plated. Rather, you can
Speaker 2: take a tiny piece of gold and cover an enormous
Speaker 2: area with it. It's a strange metal, like really weird.
Speaker 2: And what you know, the supposed the story is it's
Speaker 2: very common on Earth, very rare on New Bureau.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's the story. And then when I started
Speaker 1: looking into this gold thing myself, and here's what I
Speaker 1: came up with. So when you start analyzing the text,
Speaker 1: you discover that there was a camp An encampment in
Speaker 1: a place called South Africa at Adams Calendar. Okay, now
Speaker 1: Adams Calendar, there's actually the very first gold mines discovered.
Speaker 1: They're dating them back to about two hundred thousand years ago,
Speaker 1: and that's incredible because there's a building there that looks
Speaker 1: like a worn down structure. Now in the tablets, it
Speaker 1: talks about the fact that the egg who were the
Speaker 1: working class Antornaki beings who were cleaning out the Euphrates
Speaker 1: and Tigris river so they can create irrigation and you know,
Speaker 1: create a bustling civilization. Also, they were doing the actual
Speaker 1: construction themselves. No people needed, just them working they were
Speaker 1: like the construction workers and Knew and Ink and and Lil.
Speaker 1: These leader gods were like you know the four men,
Speaker 1: you know, the art master, architects and so forth, right
Speaker 1: the boss. So these people were working, but they weren't
Speaker 1: supposed to be enslaved. They were volunteers. They got tired
Speaker 1: of doing the work, according to them, for about two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand years of a labor on Earth,
Speaker 1: and also according to them on Mars. This is in
Speaker 1: the text, they call it Lamu. And so they decided
Speaker 1: to go to war against Inki and Lil and Anew
Speaker 1: because their demands had not been met. So they went
Speaker 1: to meet them, and the epica atra hasis they go
Speaker 1: to Adam's calendar. They go to that same structure that
Speaker 1: was discovered where that gold mine is located. I was like,
Speaker 1: holy crap, there is some link here to gold. Specifically exactly,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know if you're in advance civilization,
Speaker 1: you need gold, and the people that you have working
Speaker 1: it for you probably think, you know, it's to adorn
Speaker 1: or to adorn yourself or in recognition of the gods.
Speaker 1: So they'll wear it and they'll utilize it, but not
Speaker 1: for technology. What's crazy is they go to war. They
Speaker 1: to get ready to go to battle, and then Inkee says,
Speaker 1: I have an idea that will stop this war. There's
Speaker 1: an existing being on this planet existing, not something that
Speaker 1: doesn't exist existing. We can add our essence to it
Speaker 1: with a slain god. So they're talking about taking the
Speaker 1: DNA of genetics from one of themselves and mixing it
Speaker 1: with the DNA of the horminid that was here. It's
Speaker 1: not specified whether it was an ape man or anything,
Speaker 1: but they don't specify in the tablets, but to create
Speaker 1: a worker being, and they began to do this genetic modification,
Speaker 1: probably disconnecting some of our DNA, making genetic modifications to
Speaker 1: us to get us to take orders from them. They
Speaker 1: inserted something called a worship gene, which was just discovered
Speaker 1: recently that human beings have a gene inside of them
Speaker 1: that could be turned on and turned off. It can
Speaker 1: be turned off in a laboratory setting. It can also
Speaker 1: be turned off with a magnetic field around your head.
Speaker 1: And when it's off, you don't want to worship anything
Speaker 1: outside of yourself. You look inside, and when it's on,
Speaker 1: you look to get something from the outside. So this
Speaker 1: is incredible.
Speaker 2: Uh, and so they made us worship the genes inside
Speaker 2: of us, to make us worship them our genius.
Speaker 1: It's incredible because then you're not a slave anymore. You're
Speaker 1: doing this for the honor of the gods.
Speaker 2: And for people. Don't who think this is all this
Speaker 2: talk is really crazy. I want to put in perspective
Speaker 2: that we talked about this the other day that during
Speaker 2: the was it which war? Was it where the Soviet
Speaker 2: Union was experimenting? Was it was scientists in the Soviet Union? Correct,
Speaker 2: they're experimenting with creating a chimpanzee human being hybrid that
Speaker 2: they probably send to war. So instead of having regular people,
Speaker 2: we would make this monster, this freak, you know, ape
Speaker 2: man and send him to war and have him crush
Speaker 2: the enemies. This is how crazy is that they knew
Speaker 2: how strong chips are. I got an idea, let's turn
Speaker 2: a chimp human and that way, if he dies, who
Speaker 2: gives a fuck? We made him, get him to go
Speaker 2: to work. And now, if you're a supremely enlightened being,
Speaker 2: wouldn't you think of human beings with all of our
Speaker 2: folly and all of our chaos, and all of our
Speaker 2: war and bullshit and the internet and disinformation and misinformation.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you think about kind of the same way we
Speaker 2: would think about that Champ hybrid thing if I was,
Speaker 2: you know, I was the president of Russia. I want
Speaker 2: my cousins to go to war or I want to
Speaker 2: sudden this freak that I made in a lab.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what's interesting, I'm glad you said made in
Speaker 1: a lab. They had talked briefly in that text about
Speaker 1: fashioning people in other words, almost if they say it,
Speaker 1: they said the word fashioning, fashioning and being.
Speaker 2: What was the can you remember the actual quote?
Speaker 1: I got it. I would have to look it up,
Speaker 1: the actual the actual quote. But they describe it as
Speaker 1: fast fashioning because they said even the lamb hadn't been
Speaker 1: fashioned yet, so they had fashioned lambs, so they fashioned.
Speaker 1: And it's also when the epic bash they fashioned the
Speaker 1: friend that Gilgamesh went on the journey with. He wasn't
Speaker 1: born from a woman's womb. They created him. They created
Speaker 1: him an art official being to go on this journey
Speaker 1: in the Epic of gilgames So they used that phrase
Speaker 1: several times in the tablets, but they said no, wait,
Speaker 1: so it was almost like that's not a good idea,
Speaker 1: because in some ways, it seems as if they had
Speaker 1: known that the idea of making these artifice too many
Speaker 1: artificially created people wouldn't be a good idea. Now, they
Speaker 1: didn't go deeper than that, but you can see where
Speaker 1: we are today with AI and everything else in these
Speaker 1: you know, these robots that are coming. Maybe they knew
Speaker 1: something about that, but they decided to take a biological
Speaker 1: being and genetically modifying program that to do the work.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what they did.
Speaker 2: Well, if they really knew what we would be capable
Speaker 2: of and that we would be illogical. Overpopulation be a
Speaker 2: gigantic issue, and in many parts, I mean, it's not
Speaker 2: really that big of an issue here except for in cities,
Speaker 2: but in many parts of the world it's the whole country.
Speaker 2: The whole country is New York City, which is just
Speaker 2: fucking blunkers, you know, and you got a one. It's
Speaker 2: actually not true. It's like, it's not even that bad.
Speaker 2: Even in China. China has a lot of open space,
Speaker 2: but when you're in those cities, they are massive and
Speaker 2: they are filled with people. And that is probably what
Speaker 2: you'd imagine a higher being would do if it was
Speaker 2: like us like kind of illogical and kind of a
Speaker 2: little bit reckless and has a little bit too much
Speaker 2: technology for the average person that didn't develop the technology.
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, you got some eighty five
Speaker 2: IQ dope who has access to all the things that
Speaker 2: all these geniuses have created. Yeah, I mean you could,
Speaker 2: I mean you could figure. We talked to Michio Kaku.
Speaker 2: He built a nuclear reactor in.
Speaker 1: His house right when he was a kid.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's so crazy. But there's a lot of
Speaker 2: different stuff that you can do and have access to
Speaker 2: technology that is beyond anything you would ever be able
Speaker 2: to invent with your own mind. But because we share
Speaker 2: things across the board where you would imagine that if
Speaker 2: you were an enlightened being from another planet that's a
Speaker 2: million years more advanced than us. You go, I see
Speaker 2: where this one's going.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that cousin who's an alcoholic and then he wins
Speaker 2: the lottery, Like, oh shit, Derek just won the lottery. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is gonna be crazy. Derek's got two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fucking insane.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. And they knew they were. They were going
Speaker 1: outside their own guidelines and their own laws that are
Speaker 1: parameters because they made a statement in the text, they
Speaker 1: said the Creator of all is going to punish them
Speaker 1: or they would have to answer to the Creator of
Speaker 1: all for what they did here. So and that that
Speaker 1: lets you know they weren't really gods. They knew themselves,
Speaker 1: that they weren't the creator of the universe, but that
Speaker 1: they they masquerated as gods on this planet, just.
Speaker 2: Like we did. When you know, when different versions of
Speaker 2: human civilization would find primitive tribes like the cargo cargo cults,
Speaker 2: the cargo cult that you talked about in your documentary.
Speaker 2: That is so fascinating that during World War two planes
Speaker 2: landed on these remote places and these people built mock
Speaker 2: planes to show like what the thing was that came
Speaker 2: to visit them that they thought were like God's wild.
Speaker 2: Do you think that if the oninoch you are real,
Speaker 2: and if if New Beru really exists and there's another
Speaker 2: planet with highly intel beings that are far more advanced
Speaker 2: than us, if that's the case, do you think there's
Speaker 2: more advanced and more advanced more just like we are
Speaker 2: to chimpanzees, they are to us, and then another races
Speaker 2: to them. And then it just keeps going on and
Speaker 2: on forever until you're God.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I believe there's levels to the game, just like
Speaker 1: there's levels in terms of how we live on this planet.
Speaker 1: You know, we have the first world, second world, third world,
Speaker 1: just here on Earth. Now, magnify that as a fractal,
Speaker 1: as a universe. As a whole. You have civilizations that
Speaker 1: are a million, two million, maybe even a billion years ahead,
Speaker 1: and every universe progressiverse, every civilization progressing within the universe
Speaker 1: at a specific rate. So you can have beings that
Speaker 1: have already maybe even shed the corporeal bodies and only
Speaker 1: exists as beings of energetic light. And then you have
Speaker 1: everything all the way back down towards us. In the
Speaker 1: Emerald Tablets of Thoughth, he actually says that he has
Speaker 1: achieved the ability to incarnate at will on and in
Speaker 1: the plane he desires. He claims to be able to
Speaker 1: incarnate whenever he wants, and even into other dimensions, which
Speaker 1: is wild. That's next level. Yeah, that's next.
Speaker 2: But it does make sense that if we're capable of
Speaker 2: doing what we're doing. We're talking about your phone in
Speaker 2: the Samsung Galaxy S twenty four Ultra with zooms and
Speaker 2: all this different shit that's magic to someone just two
Speaker 2: hundred years ago. And if we keep if it keeps
Speaker 2: going and you keep like playing this out as far
Speaker 2: as possible, it kind of makes sense that there would
Speaker 2: be levels to the kind of intelligent life that exists
Speaker 2: in the years beyond our comprehension. What do you if
Speaker 2: you talked to Terrence Howard, do you know his theory
Speaker 2: about how planets are created, That it's just things ejecting
Speaker 2: from the Sun over billions and billions of years, and
Speaker 2: that there's a Goldielock zone where you can create live, right,
Speaker 2: and that's where the people are. And then as this
Speaker 2: Goldilock zone gets pret you have to be super technologically
Speaker 2: proficient in order to control your environment to the extent
Speaker 2: that you no longer require the Sun in order to
Speaker 2: keep you alive. That kind of makes sense if the
Speaker 2: bureaus out there past Pluto.
Speaker 1: Oh, it makes a lot of sense. It makes sense
Speaker 1: because I just talked to him a couple of hours ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, so we were talking about wenjugations and everything.
Speaker 2: Three days I left this podcast for three days. I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, damn, First of all, how the fuck
Speaker 2: is he so smart? Like how would you ever imagine
Speaker 2: that a dude who's an actor on a television show
Speaker 2: or in a movie is that smart, like freaky smart?
Speaker 2: But but his theory about the creation of planets. I
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, that makes sense. You watch stuff fly
Speaker 2: off the Sun all the time, and if that this
Speaker 2: matter over time would coalesce and become a planet.
Speaker 1: It creates in acretion disc and everything in space creates
Speaker 1: accretion disc. So once that disc, so once you have
Speaker 1: a certain amount of mass in space, it instantaneously on
Speaker 1: its own wants to create this circlar like the shape
Speaker 1: of our Milky Way galaxy wants to start circling and
Speaker 1: swerving around itself. And then as it does that, it
Speaker 1: creates begins a great friction. Is that creates that riction
Speaker 1: increases the matter begins to collapse in towards each other,
Speaker 1: all right, based on its own energy. And then it
Speaker 1: then forms a ball, and that then builds and attracts
Speaker 1: more mass until it builds into a moon or a
Speaker 1: planet or whatever. What do you do when you encounter
Speaker 1: flat earth people? Oh, man, I just I just try
Speaker 1: to be quiet. I just tell them, look, it's not
Speaker 1: my thing, you know. I remember if flat Earth society
Speaker 1: offered me money years and years ago, and I was like, now,
Speaker 1: I don't believe the earth is flat. I'm not getting
Speaker 1: involved with this. And they really attacked me hard, death
Speaker 1: threats and everything else.
Speaker 2: They get very upset. I do not understand. I just
Speaker 2: think it's people committing to an idea. It just doesn't
Speaker 2: make sense.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a religion now they turned it into a religion.
Speaker 1: Anytime that people can attack you so brutally over that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking, I'm on Live talking about quantum
Speaker 1: physics in their end of chat if this flat the
Speaker 1: earth is, I mean, that's it's like, I mean, one guy.
Speaker 2: Fascinated by it because it's yeah, because it's the ultimate
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory. The ultimate conspiracy theory is that we are
Speaker 2: all on a set and that the earth is flat.
Speaker 2: It's a diss There is a wall, the governments are wherever.
Speaker 2: They won't let you pass.
Speaker 1: The ice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's ice walls.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that space is just lights in the sky.
Speaker 1: Right, that's it. And the sun is a bold and
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: And it's attached to a version of Christianity, which is
Speaker 2: very interesting.
Speaker 1: It is it's tied into Christianity the six thousand year
Speaker 1: old theme. There was only six thousand year old. The
Speaker 1: reason why people think they're ap to six thousand years
Speaker 1: old is because most of the tablets are six thousand
Speaker 1: years old, and the Bible was written from the information
Speaker 1: that came from tablets. So that's as far back as
Speaker 1: anybody's quote unquote knowledge seems to extend. That's where the
Speaker 1: six thousand year old theory comes from. But they've taken
Speaker 1: that thing and turned it into a religion. I remember
Speaker 1: one guy dm me and he was going off and
Speaker 1: telling me he was going to shoot me in ahead
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And I said, let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question. If there's no atmosphere, then what are
Speaker 1: you breathing right now? He goes, what do you mean
Speaker 1: I'm breathing oxygen? I said, well, that's a gas. Gas
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. They said, well, then you should be dead then,
Speaker 1: because you're breathing a gas. And what else do you
Speaker 1: are you inhaling when you breathe? He goes oxygen. I said, well, no,
Speaker 1: you're breathing in you know, helium, krypton, nitrogen, yeah, nitrogen.
Speaker 1: I said, you're beating in all these other gases oxygen
Speaker 1: is only abound twenty one percent of that otherwise you'd
Speaker 1: be dead, you know, So he didn't know, he couldn't say.
Speaker 1: I said, did you graduate from high school? He said no,
Speaker 1: I said, I stopp talking. That's when I realized, don't
Speaker 1: waste your energy on these people.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of dudes, unfortunately, who just get
Speaker 2: on YouTube and they listen to very charismatic people talk
Speaker 2: that don't know what they're talking about, which I do
Speaker 2: all the time, but they but they do it the
Speaker 2: way where they pretend they know something is true that's
Speaker 2: not true, and people get sucked into it. And I
Speaker 2: just don't understand why you would think that Earth is
Speaker 2: the only one out of all these things that we've
Speaker 2: observed that's flat. It just doesn't make any sense. And
Speaker 2: I think this is respectfully to all these people that
Speaker 2: believe that. I think it's a giant waste of time.
Speaker 2: I think concentrating on the shape of the Earth, even
Speaker 2: if it was flat, who fucking cares, look at what's
Speaker 2: going on out there. It would be kind of crazy
Speaker 2: if it was flat. That would kind of like bolster
Speaker 2: the idea that we're the ship and that we're we're
Speaker 2: just so much more powerful in advanced and special than
Speaker 2: everything else in the universe, because we're the only ones
Speaker 2: that exists on a flat plane. Right, But the whole
Speaker 2: thing is just so insane. Just what we know about
Speaker 2: the physical universe itself and about Adams, and just just
Speaker 2: what we know about all the matter that exists in
Speaker 2: our lives is insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's insane. I mean, obviously they haven't. They haven't
Speaker 1: tapped into it. Even forget quantum they standard physics, they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't comprehend it. And so because of that,
Speaker 1: you know their loss. I mean, satellites don't exist obviously
Speaker 1: to them. So one I remember exists a Koki bro.
Speaker 2: You can watch them.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy. Hurricane Maria comes and destroys the
Speaker 1: Caribbean and unfortunately have some loved ones that were involved
Speaker 1: in that. And I posted a picture of the hurricane
Speaker 1: because I was raising money for hurricane supplies, and they
Speaker 1: were commenting and attacking that's a fake image. It doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how much?
Speaker 2: But how let me ask you this, how much of
Speaker 2: that is bullshit? Like? How much of that is government
Speaker 2: either entities from other foreign governments where they're they jump
Speaker 2: into these subjects to make people seem really stupid.
Speaker 1: And when people say something really stupid, if they have,
Speaker 1: one of.
Speaker 2: The things they like to do is put a foreign
Speaker 2: flag like American flag rather in their their little yea yea,
Speaker 2: and they're just saying the dumbest ship. And I'm going,
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a real person. I
Speaker 2: think it's not. I think it's one of those persons,
Speaker 2: one of those things that's designed to muddy up any
Speaker 2: discourse about anything.
Speaker 1: Yes, a syop. I'm telling you, I told people a
Speaker 1: long time ago this whole letter thing was a CIA syop.
Speaker 2: I think it was. It wasn't the CIA syop. It
Speaker 2: was someone from four chan who just wanted to be
Speaker 2: silly and went so hard with explanations that a lot
Speaker 2: of gullible people without science degrees like me, they went
Speaker 2: along with it. And it's just one of those things
Speaker 2: where it's just, man, what a giant waste of time.
Speaker 1: It is energy, and there's so much more we can learn,
Speaker 1: like these ancient texts, And people say, why you were
Speaker 1: focused on the ancient past, Well, because the past is prologue.
Speaker 1: If we don't understand what happened back then we're doomed
Speaker 1: to continue to repeat these cycles of time that we've
Speaker 1: been in for quite some time, for eons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just direct evidence that civilizations don't
Speaker 2: last when they go kooky, yes, you know, and that
Speaker 2: things go sideways and there's natural disasters and wars that
Speaker 2: reshaped landscapes. Like look, that's all there, and it's happening
Speaker 2: right now. If we're not aware of it, it'll happen
Speaker 2: to us, and then we'll be a footnote of history,
Speaker 2: will be one of those things. There was this amazing
Speaker 2: country called America. They got crazy, they created all this
Speaker 2: art and culture and they did amazing things that they
Speaker 2: went fucking sideways, They sold out the money, they got
Speaker 2: involved in wars, and then the next thing you know,
Speaker 2: the world is operating essentially like communist China, the whole world.
Speaker 2: That's possible too, kids, Right, you gotta fight for this
Speaker 2: because whatever this thing is that we have, this is
Speaker 2: like super fucking unique. But if you don't want to
Speaker 2: look at the past, if you're not fascinated by ancient structures,
Speaker 2: if you're not fascinated by what kind of of technology
Speaker 2: and knowledge that they have four thousand, five hundred plus
Speaker 2: years ago to make empyramids?
Speaker 1: Who are these people exactly? What were they doing?
Speaker 2: How did they do that? And what was that thing?
Speaker 1: Was that a power plant? I mean, I know you
Speaker 1: know that.
Speaker 2: Oh that is a crazy theory. That sounds so it
Speaker 2: sounds completely wacka do. But then when you have it
Speaker 2: laid out to you. Christopher what's his last name?
Speaker 1: Done? Christopher on my podcast a few weeks I just.
Speaker 2: Had him a couple of weeks ago. I just had
Speaker 2: a brain fart his depiction of the mechanisms that would
Speaker 2: be involved in turning this giant structure into some sort
Speaker 2: of a power plant. You hear about you wait a minute.
Speaker 1: Whoa, Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And him
Speaker 1: and I have very similar theories on how the power
Speaker 1: generation occurred. And I believe that the Nile, you know,
Speaker 1: when it used to run up close to the pyramids,
Speaker 1: and the water would run underneath the pyramid and that
Speaker 1: would create something called physiostatic electricity as it ran underneath
Speaker 1: that magnetized crystal granite, those ions would pour up into
Speaker 1: the chamber, move up the grand gallery where there used
Speaker 1: to be resonating rods where you can see the slots
Speaker 1: where the rods used to be. They're removed now, but
Speaker 1: the slots are still there. Then it would be pushed
Speaker 1: into the king's chamber where it would be amplified and
Speaker 1: some type of fusion would take place, then forced up
Speaker 1: through the apex, and then the crystal granite obelisks around
Speaker 1: the region would capture that ambient wireless electricity. And then
Speaker 1: if you had something called a jed which looks like
Speaker 1: a Tesla coil, you can capture that energy and you
Speaker 1: can transfer it into a device for gold electroplating, for
Speaker 1: any other electrical tools you need, like some of the
Speaker 1: tools they had to have used to create some of
Speaker 1: these incredible works of art. We can see the tool marks,
Speaker 1: so we know they had the tools, But they had
Speaker 1: wireless electricity way back then.
Speaker 2: That's insane. If that's true, that's insane because you would
Speaker 2: think there would be some kind of physical evidence of
Speaker 2: a device, like something left over, some sort of a
Speaker 2: you know, ancient chainsaw like something.
Speaker 1: They did a great job cleaning up. I mean, they
Speaker 1: poured sand over Giza to bury another couple of hundred
Speaker 1: pyramids there at Giza.
Speaker 2: Do you think they poured sand? Do you think that's
Speaker 2: just natural erosion over time. Because when Giza, when the
Speaker 2: Pyramids existed, it was a very different place, right, Like
Speaker 2: if you go back before the Pyramids, like nine thousand
Speaker 2: years ago, was a lush rainforest, right, and then over
Speaker 2: time it became sand. And the same with the entire
Speaker 2: Sahara Desert, which is really crazy. We just we're talking
Speaker 2: about the other day they find whalebones in the Sahara Desert.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to the Valley of the Whales
Speaker 1: in a few weeks in Egypt. Actually it's no, you know,
Speaker 1: it's incredible that there's whalebones out there also, So we're
Speaker 1: going out there to the Valley of the Whales. Whalebones. Whoa.
Speaker 2: But so the point being that this place has changed radically,
Speaker 2: like absolutely radically over time. So who knows what's do
Speaker 2: you know why those things were covered up? Is it
Speaker 2: possible that it was just sand over time?
Speaker 1: Well, if you look at the tablets again, they talk
Speaker 1: about this war, right, and this war that occurred. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of wars obviously, but this one particular war
Speaker 1: it seems like the same one that damaged the area
Speaker 1: or the region of the Giza Plateau. Also mohnrin do
Speaker 1: in the Indus Valley up there by Pakistan. And the
Speaker 1: reason why it's interesting is if you look at the
Speaker 1: war and the text and and go to those areas,
Speaker 1: it looks now almost you can begin to see. Oh
Speaker 1: wait a minute, it looks like war mow hundred dollar
Speaker 1: in this valley. The buildings turned to glass, the sand
Speaker 1: turned to glass, and the bodies are still laying in
Speaker 1: the street right now today holding hands. Never been scavenged
Speaker 1: by animals. So where is this mohn gendaroo? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: look it up, moe hundred dollars in this valley. Dead
Speaker 1: bodies still laying in the street, thousands of years later,
Speaker 1: and they just lay there. Covered them up, one, cover
Speaker 1: them up? Yeah, when you put a Geiger counter over them,
Speaker 1: higher than background level radiation? Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: And if it aren't stones higher than background.
Speaker 1: Some stones are. Some stones are especially like dire write
Speaker 1: and uh, crystal granite. But these bodies, these are just bones.
Speaker 1: How come they're hired and background I wanted to see this.
Speaker 2: We haven't ever heard of this.
Speaker 1: Mohen gendero m h e n. There you go. Whoa.
Speaker 1: This is evidence of a nuclear war or nuclear.
Speaker 2: To the other the one that one there, That one's insane.
Speaker 1: There's bodies that are sitting on the edge of steps
Speaker 1: next to their own buildings that they lived in. The
Speaker 1: building has turned to glass. That's three thousand plus degree
Speaker 1: temperature weapons fire.
Speaker 2: So there's a bunch of people that seem to die
Speaker 2: all at once, just scattered around. Yeah, and what's the
Speaker 2: conventional explanation for how these people died?
Speaker 1: They have no idea, They have zero idea.
Speaker 2: The only thing that that was just a couple Jamie,
Speaker 2: go to the other just the Morhan gender mythical mass massacre. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so did they think it's a massacre? Is there any
Speaker 2: just laying there?
Speaker 1: Laying there? And the building those stones are vitrified, which
Speaker 1: means three thousand plus degree temperature? Oh shit, what kind
Speaker 1: of you know what could have caused that level of
Speaker 1: temperature energetic release?
Speaker 2: Well, it could have been a low atmosphere asteroid.
Speaker 1: It could have been like, if that's possible, Tunguska. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could have been a lot. But then their bones
Speaker 1: would have been splattered apart and broken into pieces.
Speaker 2: Good call, Yeah, that's good call. Yeah, because they don't
Speaker 2: seem to be broken apart.
Speaker 1: No, they're not broken apart. That impact would have shattered
Speaker 1: the bones and spread them out over right.
Speaker 2: But without impact, even if you just look at the
Speaker 2: one that bursts in the atmosphere in Tunguska, just flattened.
Speaker 1: Trees, flattened everything.
Speaker 2: I think it's some insane like a million acres or
Speaker 2: something crazy. It's incredible, the Tunguska explosion. That one's yeah,
Speaker 2: So those bodies would be toast because the trees were
Speaker 2: ripped apart.
Speaker 1: The buildings would have been flattened, the.
Speaker 2: Legs would have flown off. There's no way they would
Speaker 2: just be laying there like that. That's interesting. And they
Speaker 2: don't seem to be like chopped up. Did they have
Speaker 2: any evidence of stab wounds or anything on them.
Speaker 1: They don't have any evidence of any injury of any
Speaker 1: kind of attack or any cutting or like swords or anything.
Speaker 2: They just all got cooked, right.
Speaker 1: And then the tablets, it says that the evil wind
Speaker 1: moved over the land after they released these weapons, and
Speaker 1: they and then Enke goes to his father, I mean,
Speaker 1: Yankey goes to his father or new and says, hey,
Speaker 1: can you stop the evil win? Because he had fallen
Speaker 1: in love with some people, you know, and down there
Speaker 1: and He's like, there's nothing I can do. He said,
Speaker 1: getting your sky shipping for a bow. That means get
Speaker 1: the hell out of here. And he said the people's
Speaker 1: heir was falling out. Their eyes were bleeding, their nose
Speaker 1: were bleeding, their fingernails were curling off. That sounds like
Speaker 1: radiation sickness.
Speaker 2: So you think it's radiation sickness that did this to
Speaker 2: all these people? Or was it an impact that did
Speaker 2: this all these people?
Speaker 1: Nobody, nobody, nobody knows. But they're they're not blown apart, right,
Speaker 1: they're not blown apart. It seems like wherever whatever struck
Speaker 1: or whatever energetic weapon it was, it could have been
Speaker 1: not it might not have been a weapon, whatever it was,
Speaker 1: it seems like that shock wave reached them at some
Speaker 1: point and whatever was in that wave.
Speaker 2: Just killed everybody.
Speaker 1: That's what it did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they just don't know what it is. How
Speaker 2: does a conventional archaeologist describe it. They just say it's
Speaker 2: a massacre.
Speaker 1: They just call it a mythical masker and they stay
Speaker 1: away from it. When you look in the other text,
Speaker 1: the Mahabarata and the bag Bagita, you find out about
Speaker 1: these wars also, they're recorded, They have weapons called the
Speaker 1: Brahma Astra and the Brahma Honda weapon. And these weapons
Speaker 1: they do what they're what they described them as doing,
Speaker 1: duplicate what you saw there.
Speaker 2: How do they describe them?
Speaker 1: They describe them, describe them as weapons that once released,
Speaker 1: can't be revolted or can't be turned back, and that
Speaker 1: they will obliterate any area, any city. Uh. And they
Speaker 1: say that some of the one of the weapons can
Speaker 1: destroy any man on three worlds. It's crazy stuff. And
Speaker 1: this is where Oppenheimer got his famous quote when he
Speaker 1: obviously tested Danuk right now, I have become death destroyer
Speaker 1: of worlds. He got that from the Mahabarata.
Speaker 2: Yeah what a great quote. Yeah, to say after you
Speaker 2: detonate the first new fig a great quote. So, so
Speaker 2: the idea is that there were beings that were having
Speaker 2: wars on this planet. Were they do you believe they
Speaker 2: were having wars with people that were revolted or were
Speaker 2: they having wars with other beings?
Speaker 1: They were fighting with each other and evidence of this
Speaker 1: of these wars can be found in the Book of
Speaker 1: Deuteronomy in the modern day Bible. These gods, and they
Speaker 1: do mean gods with s because everywhere in the Bible,
Speaker 1: wars is God's singular. It's actually a mistranslation the actual
Speaker 1: If you backwards look up the translation in Arabic and
Speaker 1: then down to Arabic and everything else, you find out
Speaker 1: that it's God's plural. They were fighting each other over
Speaker 1: resources and people and control of control of the planet uh.
Speaker 1: And so that's why in the Book of Deuteronomy, God
Speaker 1: tells people go to this city and it's like a
Speaker 1: far city where they don't even know these people exist.
Speaker 1: They go over there to kill them. He says, kill
Speaker 1: the women, kill the children, and bring the spoils of
Speaker 1: war back to me. And you see these wars in
Speaker 1: the Mahabarata, the bagh Ba Ghita, the Bible, the Samerian tablets,
Speaker 1: and these wars are just NonStop, the Indian Vadis, and
Speaker 1: it's always about attacking another city and even talk about
Speaker 1: trojan trojan horse methods to get behind the gates and
Speaker 1: then to you know, utilize that to attack and kill
Speaker 1: and bring back these spoils, which is pretty crazy stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like they were attacking each other. They had gone awry,
Speaker 1: they had gone rogue out here on this planet, and
Speaker 1: then began to fight over over people and populations and resources.
Speaker 2: And we would hope that we would get past that,
Speaker 2: but there's no evidence that we have so far. So like,
Speaker 2: why would we think that as AI gets implemented and
Speaker 2: technology escalates and all, we're gonna be able to do
Speaker 2: in the future in terms of being able to go
Speaker 2: visit other planets and duke it out on other planets.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, there was a whole.
Speaker 2: Story today about China just landed on the far side
Speaker 2: of the Moon, so they landed a probe over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we did.
Speaker 2: This is you know, there's the China America war on
Speaker 2: the Moon, Like what if America claims the spot and
Speaker 2: China lands and plants a flag there and they're like, hey,
Speaker 2: fuck you, that's.
Speaker 1: Ours now that that's gonna happen, especially if there's.
Speaker 2: Like something on the Moon they can mine. It's very
Speaker 2: valuable all.
Speaker 1: This stuff up there. I researched the Clementine mission years ago.
Speaker 1: NASA and in United States military sent a military at
Speaker 1: that time. It was the top s permission called Clementine.
Speaker 1: It was a low lunar orbiting satellite to go to
Speaker 1: the dark side of the Moon. And when I saw
Speaker 1: the name Clementine, I knew right away this thing and
Speaker 1: coming back, and as I began to dig deeper into
Speaker 1: the declassified documents, of course it never came back. Oh
Speaker 1: my darling, Clementine, you were lost and gone forever.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And I was right. And sure enough, it hits something
Speaker 1: on the dark side of the Moon, which is really
Speaker 1: just the backside. It's not really dark there, but it
Speaker 1: hit something. But it sent back, sent back about twenty
Speaker 1: gigs of data, and these images are available to the
Speaker 1: general public. They've been declassified, and there are strange anomalies
Speaker 1: on those image. This is pre photoshop, pre everything. Things
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be there, that looked like broken structures and
Speaker 1: junk and things that just seemed to be laying around.
Speaker 1: So I think it was a recognizance mission to gather
Speaker 1: intel and data, which is probably why China's gone to
Speaker 1: that far side of the moon as well, because they're
Speaker 1: probably going to it's a race to see who can
Speaker 1: capture ancient technology and then reverse engineering and then weaponize it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the most fun theory ever. The most fun
Speaker 2: theory ever is that there's bases on the Moon, in
Speaker 2: the dark side of the Moon that aliens have abandoned Jamie,
Speaker 2: are there any photos of these anomalies?
Speaker 1: That's the most fun I can brite. I can provide
Speaker 1: you some with links to the sources too.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that'd be cool, but Jamie'll probably find something cool.
Speaker 2: So what do these structures look like to you when
Speaker 2: you look at them?
Speaker 1: Just dome structures there, well, dome, there's domes and matter
Speaker 1: of fact, one of the astronauts, I think it was
Speaker 1: Neil Armstrong. If you get the declassified from the Freedom
Speaker 1: Freedom of Information Act documents that are the black Box
Speaker 1: audio and the black Box redacted text statement from NASA
Speaker 1: which is available to the general public. Neil says, look
Speaker 1: at those convex structures down there. I bet that people
Speaker 1: in there never get out. And he's talking about dome
Speaker 1: structures on the moon. And this is an exact statement
Speaker 1: that was made. That's in the black Box audio which
Speaker 1: I can provide you to the link to that as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what are these structures? Do you see any
Speaker 2: of these that you find you need to look.
Speaker 1: For anomalies on the backside of the moon. We utilize
Speaker 1: a lot of these on our Facebook groups. On Facebook,
Speaker 1: we have these groups anomally hunting groups. We form the
Speaker 1: United Family of Anomaly Hunters, and we've cataloged about sixty
Speaker 1: thousand anomalies. Now a lot of them are on the
Speaker 1: dark side of the moon. But you type in Clementine
Speaker 1: moon photos anomaly you may be able to find some.
Speaker 1: If not, I'll send you the link to some resources
Speaker 1: where you can look them up. And you can take
Speaker 1: a look at some of these crazy objects that are there.
Speaker 2: Is that one right there in the upper right end corner, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That one's there's some structure that's kind of look like
Speaker 1: two pyramids onto the left of it, and then another
Speaker 1: structure which almost seems like has geomegy. Know underneath that,
Speaker 1: you see the blur that looks like obfuscation directly, you know,
Speaker 1: if you go back to that top right, top right, yeah,
Speaker 1: top right, b Okay, you see that where his hand
Speaker 1: is moved to the left, going down slowly. See See
Speaker 1: how that see that go back up again? See that
Speaker 1: what his hand is over right now, It looks like obfuscation.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can take these images and put them into
Speaker 1: a photoshop and take away the contrast, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, structures pop right out. But right above that
Speaker 1: you see those shadows of those pyramid structures right above that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see those pyramids? See that, you can see this
Speaker 1: dark shadow.
Speaker 2: See, I see two lines. Okay, well I see the
Speaker 2: arrow that's pointing to that one straight line, and then
Speaker 2: I see what looks like two superimposed arrows. Okay, do
Speaker 2: you see yeah those things Okay, yeah, those are super
Speaker 2: imposed right, Like, No, those are shadows. But look, those
Speaker 2: are the same things that are in the bottom. Aren't
Speaker 2: they just pointing at something? Aren't those pointers?
Speaker 1: I think they're they may be highlighting something, right, I think.
Speaker 2: It's a cursor mark or something. So what they're saying,
Speaker 2: I see what they're pointing to. They're pointing to that
Speaker 2: thing in the uppright end core. It kind of looks
Speaker 2: like a pyramid.
Speaker 1: Yeah you see that. You see that right there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of looks like a pyramid.
Speaker 1: It's cleaned up a little bit there and see see
Speaker 1: is more clean. But you know those structure, those those
Speaker 1: things don't look like they belong there.
Speaker 2: Well, it's hard to tell.
Speaker 1: It's hard to he Now we have really that period
Speaker 1: right there is very famous. That's a image that's on
Speaker 1: the moon. There's a there should be a link to
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of a lot of that bath
Speaker 1: particular one has been around for years and years and years.
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to think that that we're formed
Speaker 1: by natural now. And what what happens is we're not
Speaker 1: saying we know exactly what these things are. We're just
Speaker 1: saying that we feel like they don't belong the shamie.
Speaker 2: Go back to that image that you were just looking
Speaker 2: at the thing that over your pyramid. That one, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you get that one, big hmmm. That one's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that one's very strange looking because the way it points
Speaker 2: at the top and has flat sides. Like yeah, you're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so if that's real, that's interesting. But that's a good question.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a measuring tool. We don't have it
Speaker 1: obviously access to it right here, but there is a
Speaker 1: measuring tool. You can see the shadow, which gives you
Speaker 1: an idea of the height.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see in real life, though, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like sometimes things fuck with you. It's
Speaker 2: just but the angle is so unnatural looking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely looks unnatural. We just try to catalog things
Speaker 1: that appear to be anomalies, things that appear.
Speaker 2: To be out of place, right, it could be anything.
Speaker 1: And if this in the Smerian tabots, here's this time
Speaker 1: where and Lil takes his son to the moon and
Speaker 1: he says, well, grab your eagles mask because you're gonna
Speaker 1: need it. They were referencing that the atmosphere was harsh.
Speaker 1: So when you see that, when you see the annochy
Speaker 1: with the eagles head, that's actually their helmet. It's a helmet.
Speaker 1: So they exactly they talk about it twice, once to
Speaker 1: go to the moon and the second time to go
Speaker 1: to Mars.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And there's been other depictions of ancient gods and
Speaker 2: people that look like they're wearing some kind of masks, right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean one of the cooler.
Speaker 1: Ones is the bubble space head looking guys in the cave. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you're like, what did you guys say?
Speaker 2: Like, what did you guys see in the middle of
Speaker 2: like hunting gazelle's trying to stay alive, trying to make
Speaker 2: a fire. And then you decided to draw that thing?
Speaker 1: What is that? And we know they can draw because
Speaker 1: they can show you what a gazelle is, they can
Speaker 1: show you what cattaly is, they can show you what
Speaker 1: a person looks like. But then they draw that, and
Speaker 1: you have to think, well.
Speaker 2: Why, right, why is that the only thing you drew
Speaker 2: that's fake?
Speaker 1: Right? Exactly?
Speaker 2: It looks to waste and it looks like a dude
Speaker 2: in a suit with a helmet on. Right, And how
Speaker 2: here's the question, how many different things are visiting us?
Speaker 2: Like and from how many different places?
Speaker 1: Oh? A lot?
Speaker 2: If we can't just think everything's going to look exactly
Speaker 2: the same, that seems just as silly as thinking that
Speaker 2: all of our animals should look exactly the same.
Speaker 1: Correct. I think we have three different levels of visitation
Speaker 1: going on simultaneously. One is corporeal beings in a physical body,
Speaker 1: most likely anatomically similar to us, you know, bilateral bipedal organism.
Speaker 1: But two ford facing eyes, maybe.
Speaker 2: Think two that's what we eventually become what they are.
Speaker 1: It's possible that maybe we already are them, just the
Speaker 1: you know, Earth could be an abandoned sea colony. Every
Speaker 1: culture that I've talked to indigenously around the planets all
Speaker 1: say they were seated on this planet by pleadians or
Speaker 1: other beings star brothers in various different places. So interesting
Speaker 1: like the Dogons, the Nomo, the Hopie, and the Lakota tribe,
Speaker 1: the Star Brothers, the Aboriginal elders say that they were
Speaker 1: seated here by Pleadians. All of a sudden, why is
Speaker 1: everybody having same story that we were brought here? We
Speaker 1: could be genetically I don't believe we're even from Earth.
Speaker 1: To be quite honest with you, our psychotic rhythm doesn't
Speaker 1: even match Earth's rotation on its axis was slightly off.
Speaker 1: It's actually better tuned to Mars orbit on its rotation
Speaker 1: on its own axis.
Speaker 2: How does that work?
Speaker 1: The psychotic rhythm of a human body, the wake and
Speaker 1: sleep cycle is actually more tuned to Mars rotation on
Speaker 1: its own axis of Mars day versus the Earth day,
Speaker 1: which is pretty weird that, don't We aren't sync to
Speaker 1: our own planet after all these thousands securium circadian rhythm, right.
Speaker 2: So when how do they calculate it's more tuned to Mars.
Speaker 1: How does that work? Well, it's just they geneticists and
Speaker 1: scientists discovered that our day, our perfect wake and sleep
Speaker 1: cycle is more tuned to Mars rotation on its axis
Speaker 1: which is about twenty three and something minute hours and
Speaker 1: versus Earth being twenty four hours. And so they said, wow,
Speaker 1: this is incredible. And the more they tested it and
Speaker 1: more they studied, they realized we're more tuned to the
Speaker 1: Mars than we are to Earth, which is pretty strange.
Speaker 2: We are weird, we have we except shit like Leapier, right, Like,
Speaker 2: what kind of whack calendar.
Speaker 1: Do you have where there's makeup stuff?
Speaker 2: If some years the month is longer? What the fuck
Speaker 2: are you doing? You know, make a better calendar. Isn't
Speaker 2: there a better calendar?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Shouldn't there be like a digital calendar that represents exactly
Speaker 2: what's going on and not go January, come on the
Speaker 2: fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: Pretty bizarre. But you know what's interesting. If you want
Speaker 1: to say, oh, human beings could be aliens, well, actually
Speaker 1: every person on this planet is an alien. Even our
Speaker 1: planet itself is an alien. Scientists just discovered something interesting
Speaker 1: and I've never talked about this shit on the podcast,
Speaker 1: and you guys should look this up. So our Milky
Speaker 1: Way galaxy is pretty interesting because it's absorbing another galaxy
Speaker 1: at this exact moment, called the Sagittarius Dwarf galaxy, not
Speaker 1: the Sagittarius constellation. That's something totally different. We are absorbing
Speaker 1: the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy. See at this exact moment people
Speaker 1: thought for all these decades, looking over even hundreds of years,
Speaker 1: looking up in the night sky, seeing that swathe of
Speaker 1: stars going across that's the Milky Way. Guess what we've
Speaker 1: been wrong the whole time. This is now being taught
Speaker 1: in universities in astrophysics. So what we're looking at, you're
Speaker 1: looking at the absorption or the merging of the Sagittarius
Speaker 1: with the Milky Way galaxy, and the exact point where
Speaker 1: it merges and drops into the Milky Way is right
Speaker 1: where our solar system is located, which would explain the
Speaker 1: rogue planets that we know that are out there. There's
Speaker 1: millions of rogue planets that have no Sun that are
Speaker 1: just floating free around. There's planets and solar systems that
Speaker 1: are orbiting far beyond the orbit of Pluto in our
Speaker 1: inner Oort cloud, admitted by astronomers. Now that there's other
Speaker 1: solar systems within this inner Oort cloud area orbiting our
Speaker 1: Sun to be forty two hundred years So all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, that's Corey Powell, the astronomer Discovery magazine, by
Speaker 1: the way, who said that, So this is pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the fact that our solar system itself
Speaker 1: is an implant into the minkey way that we come
Speaker 1: from Sagittarius. We're not even part of the Milky Bay galaxy.
Speaker 2: WHOA Okay, So when they're looking at our own solar system,
Speaker 2: they have an understanding that there's a thing called the
Speaker 2: Kuiper Belt. It's out there, and there's so many objects
Speaker 2: in there that are small, and that's one of the
Speaker 2: reasons why they decided to declassify Pluto as a planet,
Speaker 2: because there's other objects real similar.
Speaker 1: In sty Baki and all those other planets.
Speaker 2: But they think there's something large out there. They think
Speaker 2: there's something large out there that they haven't yet identified
Speaker 2: because of the way that gravity is responding. What is
Speaker 2: the reason for.
Speaker 1: Well, what happens is they discovered that in some way,
Speaker 1: millions of years ago, something moved through our solar system
Speaker 1: and captured its own weird orbit around our Sun. And
Speaker 1: what's crazy is the evidence is in our solar system.
Speaker 1: So Saturn and Neptune switched locations because of a gravitational field.
Speaker 1: Urinus has flipped on its side in orbits, it's a equator.
Speaker 1: It's orbiting North and south, not east and west. And
Speaker 1: they know that you got hit like it got hit
Speaker 1: or something gravitationally just tugged at It's so hard that
Speaker 1: it flipped sideways. It never stopped, and it's moved through
Speaker 1: our solar system, way out beyond the orbit of Pluto,
Speaker 1: and this thing captured its own orbit. This is in
Speaker 1: the numit elis in seven Taps of Creation. This exact
Speaker 1: process that's been described now by astrophysicists and astronomers is
Speaker 1: an ancient text that we can read and we can see,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is exactly what this text is saying.
Speaker 1: It's talking about the creation of our solar system. It
Speaker 1: even talks about the creation of Earth in that text.
Speaker 1: So it says that when marred uck Aka and ne Bureau,
Speaker 1: a moon of Bureau, crashed into Tiamot, it broke into
Speaker 1: pieces and became the hammer embrace it. That's the asteroid belt,
Speaker 1: one giant chunk swung away, recoalesced with everything water, land,
Speaker 1: and organic material needed for life, and became the Earth,
Speaker 1: tugging with it the moon. So it's pretty crazy that
Speaker 1: the creation of this planet itself, and it says that
Speaker 1: it pushed the net force pushed mercury closer to the
Speaker 1: Sun and pushed Venus closer to the Sun, and then
Speaker 1: we took the third spot in place around our orbit
Speaker 1: around our Sun. And then of course we have Mars,
Speaker 1: which used to be a moon, a habitable moon of Tiamat,
Speaker 1: a planet that was four to six times larger than Earth,
Speaker 1: and it slung into this crazy orbit. That's why Mars
Speaker 1: has this weird orbit. And you have to you have
Speaker 1: to rendezvous with it. If you're NASA or anybody trying
Speaker 1: to rendevous with Mars every two years doing this an
Speaker 1: apergee or perogy, you have to apige a periode. One
Speaker 1: of them is further away than the other. One is
Speaker 1: eighty million miles, and the other one's closer. So if
Speaker 1: you run into rendezvous every two years, you can capture
Speaker 1: the orbit of Mars and you can actually get there
Speaker 1: in four months. And then they looked at it and said, wow,
Speaker 1: they meaning astro physicists, this looks like this. Mars wasn't
Speaker 1: originally in this type of orbit. It must have been
Speaker 1: orbiting something else in our Solar system, which it was.
Speaker 1: One side is charred black and the other side is smooth.
Speaker 1: So the side where Tiama exploded. Those chunks hit Mars
Speaker 1: on one side created a very charred side and the
Speaker 1: other side is the smoothest sir in the Solar System,
Speaker 1: which is because of the global flood that that created.
Speaker 1: And then Mars's axis on its equator is tilted forty
Speaker 1: five degres on its axis, which means the mass shifted
Speaker 1: it down forty five degrees. They had a major global
Speaker 1: catastrophe there on that on Mars uh. And then after
Speaker 1: Mars you have another little planet that survived called Series
Speaker 1: C E R E S, which is also a result
Speaker 1: of this tea amount exploding. People don't even talk about Series.
Speaker 1: It has the most fresh water of any other planet
Speaker 1: in our Solar system. More location, that's the next planet
Speaker 1: after Mars, Series really C E R E S.
Speaker 2: How big is it?
Speaker 1: It's about maybe two thirds smaller than Mars. And guess
Speaker 1: what worf planet?
Speaker 2: So they don't. It falls in orbit between Mars and Jupiter,
Speaker 2: near the middle of the asteroid belt with an orbital period.
Speaker 2: Click on that, Jane, when they flew by it before,
Speaker 2: I didn't know there was another planet out there.
Speaker 1: Listen when they flew by it a few years ago,
Speaker 1: the lights were on, they sent the probe out there,
Speaker 1: what the lights were on? And so they started tried
Speaker 1: to say it was ice particles glistening in the sunlight.
Speaker 1: So when they got to the dark side, guess what
Speaker 1: the lights were on on the dark side. So they
Speaker 1: couldn't use the ice particle explanation anymore, so they just said,
Speaker 1: we don't know what it.
Speaker 2: Is what series small size means that even at its brightest,
Speaker 2: it's too dim to be seen by the naked eye
Speaker 2: except under extremely dark skies. It's apparent magnitude rages from
Speaker 2: six point seven to nine point three, peaking in opposition.
Speaker 2: What's closest to Earth once every fifteen to sixteen month.
Speaker 2: And how do you say that word? Sino dick synadic.
Speaker 2: I don't know where you're at now, sixteenth month Sinodick period.
Speaker 1: Do you know? Oh? Yeah, synadic, sinadic period.
Speaker 2: As a result, synodic. As a result, its surface features
Speaker 2: are barely visible even with the most powerful telescopes, and
Speaker 2: little is known about it until the robotic NASA spacecraft
Speaker 2: Dawn approached Series for its orbital mission in twenty fifteen, and.
Speaker 1: We have high resolution images of the surface. There are
Speaker 1: strange things there as well, which is pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: So what are the is of the surface.
Speaker 1: You have to go to NASA dot GUV and go
Speaker 1: to the dawn images and you can download or there's
Speaker 1: sometimes the European Space Agency has them as well, yes,
Speaker 1: and then you can grab those images. It's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Some things just don't look right there. But there's a
Speaker 1: lot of what doesn't look right well. You know, if
Speaker 1: you look at mohingin Dollar or areas of Egypt that's
Speaker 1: you know, or even you know Iraq where it used
Speaker 1: to be Samaria, structures that used to be there that
Speaker 1: are now worn down and weathered. They have similar looks there,
Speaker 1: similar things that they look similar there. Not this not
Speaker 1: saying that they are I'm just saying that they look strange.
Speaker 1: Some things.
Speaker 2: Look for a lot of strange things on Earth that
Speaker 2: are unnatural.
Speaker 1: That's true. We sure do. We even have octagons and
Speaker 1: straight lines on Earth that are natural as well.
Speaker 2: That was one of the craziest ones that Terrence brought
Speaker 2: up was the octagon on Saturn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was it Saturn instead Saturn Saturn?
Speaker 2: That when you look at the octagon Sun that it's
Speaker 2: mimicked in the model that they've created by using the
Speaker 2: whole idea that he really blew my mind with was
Speaker 2: the Goldilock zone idea that planets reach a certain distance
Speaker 2: from the Sun and that's when life starts happening. And
Speaker 2: this is a normal force that happens everywhere in the universe.
Speaker 2: And as time goes on, that planet's going to get
Speaker 2: further and further from the Sun, and then it's going
Speaker 2: to lose its ability to do that, and then a
Speaker 2: new planet will move into the Goldilock zone and that
Speaker 2: is also going to become like us. And then so
Speaker 2: if you are following this idea of this idea makes sense.
Speaker 2: It means that this is just this sort of natural
Speaker 2: process that these intelligent creatures grow through. And even though
Speaker 2: we're looking at like AI and we're looking at technologies like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, we can't even be people anymore. Well,
Speaker 2: guess what, we can't be people anymore because we're not
Speaker 2: gonna make it if we don't. There's a timeline. It
Speaker 2: seems like you're only going to live one hundred years,
Speaker 2: so it's no big deal. But humans, if we keep
Speaker 2: going like a few million years, we're gonna have a
Speaker 2: real problem. A billion years from now. We're not gonna
Speaker 2: be around anymore, and then there's going to come a
Speaker 2: time where the sun doesn't.
Speaker 1: Exist anymore exactly.
Speaker 2: So if you get so intelligent that you can escape
Speaker 2: the boundaries of the physical world and you can move
Speaker 2: throughout the cosmos wherever you want, then you've escaped. You've
Speaker 2: escaped this fear. But it's almost like there's an intelligent test,
Speaker 2: an intelligence test that life goes through, Like we're gonna
Speaker 2: give you all the tools, just like you're in the womb,
Speaker 2: you're in the womb of Mother Earth. I want to
Speaker 2: give you all the tools, but you got to get
Speaker 2: out of the house at a certain point of time.
Speaker 2: You got to get out of the house. You're twenty four,
Speaker 2: still living at home. Get the fuck out of the house.
Speaker 1: They're waiting for us to grow up. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: what you know. Human beings are like babies. Right now,
Speaker 1: it's a civilization trying to learn how to walk. And
Speaker 1: right now we're barely crawling and then we plopped down
Speaker 1: on our stomach and everybody screams and cries. But we're
Speaker 1: getting to the point eventually where we'll go to the
Speaker 1: edge of the table and pull ourselves up, and then
Speaker 1: we'll take a couple of steps, and then we'll fall again.
Speaker 1: Everybody will think it's all over. Oh my god, we
Speaker 1: were doing so good and to collapse again. But no,
Speaker 1: that's just a fall. The baby will pull itself back up,
Speaker 1: it'll cry less, and it'll take more steps until it
Speaker 1: falls again, until it can get this controlled fall. And
Speaker 1: that's definition of walking, controlling your fall. So we're in
Speaker 1: that process now. Like you said, this is a proving
Speaker 1: ground for us to be able to develop consciously, spiritually
Speaker 1: ascend to higher levels and eventually, I believe I'm pretty
Speaker 1: optimistic for mankind that we will get through this period.
Speaker 2: Well that's a beautiful thing to hear. I love when
Speaker 2: people are optimistic, because I'm always like, I don't know
Speaker 2: which one are I tend to be optimistic.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it proves what these ancient beings were doing.
Speaker 1: They were creating breakaway civilizations throughout the entire Milky Way galaxy.
Speaker 1: Because of what you just said, the fact that planets
Speaker 1: won't be habitable forever, even Earth. Let's say Earth never
Speaker 1: moved and stayed right where it's at in the Goldilock zone.
Speaker 1: We're going to lose our control over the weather because
Speaker 1: the Moon is moving away at a few centimeters every
Speaker 1: single year, and as the Moon backs off of Earth,
Speaker 1: our weather patterns are going to get more hectic and chaotic,
Speaker 1: and the wabble's going to be uncontrollable to the point
Speaker 1: where life won't be able to exist, not our kind
Speaker 1: of life won't be able to exist on this planet.
Speaker 1: So just losing the Moon alone in a few million
Speaker 1: years is going to destroy us. So we have to
Speaker 1: create breakaway civilizations. We have to out of here, which
Speaker 1: is what all these other advanced civilizations in these ancient
Speaker 1: texts have done. Well.
Speaker 2: It only makes sense if Terrence is correct about this
Speaker 2: idea of the Goldilock zone. It only makes sense. And
Speaker 2: if there are other planets somewhere in another galaxy or
Speaker 2: ours that have the same exact sort of features, water,
Speaker 2: the same temperature, the same mixture of amino acids, and
Speaker 2: whatever the hell else is here that makes life, and
Speaker 2: then it happens there too, it just makes sense that
Speaker 2: some places are going to be more stable, so they're
Speaker 2: going to have less natural disasters. So like people will
Speaker 2: evolve faster and longer, they'll they'll exist longer. But then
Speaker 2: you know, there's the argument that the natural disasters are
Speaker 2: actually good, because the natural disasters knock us back down.
Speaker 2: If we're about to destroy everything, knock us back down
Speaker 2: to some much more primitive version of ourselves, and then
Speaker 2: we have to rebuild society again over thousands of years,
Speaker 2: which to the universe is the blank of an eye.
Speaker 1: It's a blink of nine. You're right, that's exactly what
Speaker 1: happened in the Emerald tablets. You know, a thirty six
Speaker 1: thousand years ago, he'd arrives in this place called the
Speaker 1: Land of Kim, ancient Chemic, before it was lone as Egypt.
Speaker 1: His father sent them on a mission to rebuild civilization
Speaker 1: back up to a high level, meaning that it already
Speaker 1: was at a high level prior to this flood situation.
Speaker 1: And he says, he gets into the great ship of
Speaker 1: the Master, and he takes off into the sky until
Speaker 1: the earth disappears, and then he goes to the plank
Speaker 1: appointed and he sees beneath him the children of the
Speaker 1: Land of Kim, and he descends down. He doesn't sail in,
Speaker 1: he descends down, and when the ship lands, he opens
Speaker 1: his doors and he comes out with his crew, and
Speaker 1: he says, the barbarians came at him to attack him
Speaker 1: with cludgs and spears. He says, I raised my staff
Speaker 1: and sent out a ray of vibrations, stopping him still
Speaker 1: as fragments of stone of the mountain. So he had
Speaker 1: a stun gun. He had a weapon that there was
Speaker 1: not lethal, non lethal weapon that can freeze you in
Speaker 1: your tracks. And we have something just like that now
Speaker 1: in the military called the act of denial system. They
Speaker 1: can send a beam and a crowd coming to attack
Speaker 1: and make them stop still right in their tracks. They
Speaker 1: can make you feel like you're on fire, make you
Speaker 1: feel like you're on a vomit. They can even put
Speaker 1: voices in your head. They can make you be an
Speaker 1: extreme extreme pain. It's called the active denial system. So
Speaker 1: he's talking about technology back then that we have right now.
Speaker 2: Could do googluga look up that because is that you
Speaker 2: think that's what that havana syndrome thing is.
Speaker 1: It's possible, man, this thing. If you put it above,
Speaker 1: like in the sky and aiming at an area and
Speaker 1: it beam spreads a little bit, you can create mass illness,
Speaker 1: mass sickness, mass mass hysteria. You can have everyone running
Speaker 1: around thinking that they've got somebody talking to them and
Speaker 1: telling commanding them to do certain things. Is out of control.
Speaker 1: This weapon can be fully weaponized in a lethal way,
Speaker 1: in a way that can make people become psychotic. You
Speaker 1: can make somebody think they're burning it on fire.
Speaker 2: Whoa active denial system demo? Can we listen to what
Speaker 2: this guy's saying.
Speaker 3: It can deter individuals on a military perimeter all the
Speaker 3: way up to a riotous crowd, all without permanent harm.
Speaker 4: It only penetrates one six and fourths of an inch
Speaker 4: of your skin, those very shallow into where your nerve
Speaker 4: receptors are.
Speaker 1: They can't take the pains. No permanent injury caused by it.
Speaker 2: So what was it due to them?
Speaker 1: It's in a frequency, a beam of frequency, just like
Speaker 1: Tholts says in the Emeral tablets. I put this in
Speaker 1: my books because it's important.
Speaker 3: The guests volunteer to test out its effectiveness and safety,
Speaker 3: including the assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps.
Speaker 2: Wow, he said fuck it, He said fuck it.
Speaker 3: Assistant Secretary of the Navy most described it as feeling
Speaker 3: like a hot oven or grill being opened up.
Speaker 2: It is something that wow.
Speaker 1: So that's what he used on them thousands of years ago.
Speaker 2: Holy for something something like twenty twelve. Oh, now they
Speaker 2: turn you into statue. Oh yeah, statue. Absolutely, No, Now
Speaker 2: it's over in Medusa.
Speaker 1: Yeahdu holy, same type of techic frequency technology.
Speaker 2: Imagine that. Imagine that story. We always thought that was
Speaker 2: just some crazy story, But imagine there's a technology back
Speaker 2: then that can actually turn you into stone. Right now
Speaker 2: that we know that people can do things like that,
Speaker 2: and then we would imagine a thousand years of evolution,
Speaker 2: ten thousand, five hundred thousand, whatever these people are, whatever
Speaker 2: these things are that have the ability. It's kind of
Speaker 2: disappointing that there's still waging Warter.
Speaker 1: I got to tell you that it's crazy. It's it's
Speaker 1: a bummer. It's a real archaic mindset. You know. We
Speaker 1: have to find a way that rise above. This is
Speaker 1: why we need to understand exactly what happened and how
Speaker 1: do we overcome what's been embedded into our epigenetic memories
Speaker 1: because we're suffering from epigenetic mental hysteria or it's just
Speaker 1: psychosis in this war psychosis. We've been programmed as human
Speaker 1: beings to have consumption and fighting and competition over collaboration.
Speaker 1: Everything is designed to keep us separate, dividing conquerors. The
Speaker 1: main mission, and it works so well for so many
Speaker 1: thousands of years. And this dividing conquered tactic that's been
Speaker 1: burnt into our DNA and our code has put us
Speaker 1: in a situation where we are not advancing as we
Speaker 1: should be. We're getting now this technology leaked out to us,
Speaker 1: and yes, that's advancing pretty fast, but consciously and spiritually
Speaker 1: it's holding us back. But everyone's putting themselves in boxes
Speaker 1: and saying I'm a part of this thing and I'm
Speaker 1: a part of that thing, and then we don't work together.
Speaker 2: No, that's such an important point and it needs to
Speaker 2: be drilled into people's heads. We're distracting ourselves by getting
Speaker 2: involved in these stupid arguments over stupid things. Right, there's
Speaker 2: really important issues with the world and those aren't being addressed.
Speaker 2: And one of the big ones is how these stop
Speaker 2: people from killing each other? How do we stop war?
Speaker 2: How do we stop this insane practice of having groups
Speaker 2: of people go up against groups of people they've never
Speaker 2: even met and killing them exactly, And then we're all
Speaker 2: okay with this, we talk about how this is normal
Speaker 2: and this has to be done, and these war is
Speaker 2: ugly and it's unfortunate but we have to do it. Okay,
Speaker 2: are you fucking sure who's pulling the strings here?
Speaker 1: People with ten thousand dollar suits that don't get on
Speaker 1: the front line. Yeah, they send poor kids and young kids,
Speaker 1: young men and women to Yeah, and you know exactly,
Speaker 1: And it's all about money.
Speaker 2: It's all about money. And you know Smedley Butler wrote
Speaker 2: about it in nineteen.
Speaker 1: Thirty three wars a racket. Yeah, that's right. You read that.
Speaker 2: Read that from nineteen thirty three, folks. And this was
Speaker 2: a general who was he a general? J was his right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: who was retiring and he wrote this piece about how
Speaker 2: he thought he was preserving democracy. He was really just
Speaker 2: making the place safe for bankers. And yep, it's just
Speaker 2: it's an ugly business that Eisenhower tried to warn us
Speaker 2: about and is leaving from office speech right when he
Speaker 2: stepped down, or when he was no longer the president,
Speaker 2: he left office and gave a speech about warning about
Speaker 2: the military industrial complex and it's influence. And I don't
Speaker 2: think they knew back then that people would be able
Speaker 2: to have YouTube and just watch that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And if that's how they did it back then, imagine
Speaker 2: how good they are at it now.
Speaker 1: Oh man, they're masters at neuroscience, applying neuroscience to the
Speaker 1: general population. They are masters at it and know how
Speaker 1: to get into the psyche of a human being, and
Speaker 1: they know how to turn them against turn us against
Speaker 1: each other while they themselves chop it all up. Like
Speaker 1: I always say, there is no democrat or Republican doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: The only thing that exists, it's a group of elite
Speaker 1: holigarchs that torture men, women and children worldwide that exists.
Speaker 1: They capitalize and monetize us, and they put their boot
Speaker 1: on our neck. But the think that there's left wing
Speaker 1: and a right wing, I think it's the same bird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all just money. Yeah, it's all money.
Speaker 2: And they use social issues whatever they are, whether it's
Speaker 2: Christianity or abortion rights or whatever it is, they just
Speaker 2: use those. It's like little moves that they put in
Speaker 2: their little game. And really what it's about is enriching
Speaker 2: themselves and staying in power. And the best way to
Speaker 2: stay in power is control narratives and to control influence
Speaker 2: and make people believe a very specific thing and drill
Speaker 2: it into their head. But the problem is, like I
Speaker 2: think human beings are more awake now than ever before,
Speaker 2: and they know this game. Now, at least a large
Speaker 2: number of us know this game.
Speaker 1: It's shifting so fast, it's shifting like incredibly fast, which
Speaker 1: is great. How do you I'll be fifty three in September.
Speaker 1: You look great, thanks man.
Speaker 2: So you and I are basically close to the same age.
Speaker 2: I'm fifty six, and when we were kids, this version
Speaker 2: of the world was never discussed. You'd have to be
Speaker 2: a complete kook to think that money is why wars
Speaker 2: are started. Oh, come on, no one would ever do that, right.
Speaker 2: You would be a complete kook to think that the
Speaker 2: pharmaceutical drug companies lie about their drugs. What are you
Speaker 2: talking about. They can't do that. They would be arrested.
Speaker 2: You'd be kuk And now, especially after the pandemic, that's
Speaker 2: how everybody feels and watching these wars go on between
Speaker 2: Ukraine and Russia and Palestine and Israeli, like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck is.
Speaker 1: Going on in twenty first century? This is still happening
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: In large scale, and the people are having debate over
Speaker 2: the acceptable amount of numbers of women and children that
Speaker 2: are allowed to die in a war.
Speaker 1: Right, is insane. It's insanity insane? Earth is you know
Speaker 1: partly is a giant mental facility. Mental health is a
Speaker 1: major issue on this planet. When a person can look
Speaker 1: at someone and say they deserve to die because of
Speaker 1: their beliefs or their non belief that's a major problem.
Speaker 1: That's a sign of mental illness.
Speaker 2: It's also a sign of like a spoiled child. It's
Speaker 2: almost like we skip the line, right, We didn't really
Speaker 2: do We didn't pay our dues to become people. We
Speaker 2: got turned into people. You know, because if there's anthropologists
Speaker 2: are looking at chimpanzees now and they're looking at them
Speaker 2: and saying they're entering into the Stone age, like they're
Speaker 2: using tools. Now. Now, if you watch that same chimpanzee
Speaker 2: and you went a few million years in the future,
Speaker 2: who knows what it looks like. Probably looks like an
Speaker 2: upward taught looking human that has much more intricate tools.
Speaker 2: Who knows if it's created stone, weapons, structures, houses, that
Speaker 2: may develop a language. You could watch chimpanzees over the
Speaker 2: course of evolue, but that's too slow. And so if
Speaker 2: you were another highly intelligent being for another planet, like
Speaker 2: are gonna get there, give him a little sum giveth.
Speaker 1: And the evidence of that is a tablet's called the
Speaker 1: Myth of a Dappa, which means first man, the Myth
Speaker 1: of a Dappa, an ancient Sumerian text. It's a tablet
Speaker 1: and in this tablet you can buy the book Myth
Speaker 1: of a Dappa on Amazon. You can read it for yourself,
Speaker 1: completely translated uh and translated by scholars by the way.
Speaker 1: And it's talking about the fact that, according to the Anunaki,
Speaker 1: human beings were created in a way that genetically we
Speaker 1: were supposed to become more superior than them. They didn't
Speaker 1: know this was going to happen. And Lil was angry
Speaker 1: at his brother Innki because Ink put a little extra
Speaker 1: in the sauce, a little extra, and he said that
Speaker 1: the mysteries to unlock the secrets of the universe is
Speaker 1: hidden within our bodies and that we ourselves can rise
Speaker 1: to be even higher than them. This is a major
Speaker 1: thing to be putting into text like this. Now, who
Speaker 1: sits around, How does that sounds insane?
Speaker 2: How they specifically describe.
Speaker 1: That, They describe it just like that. It says that
Speaker 1: human beings or man man a dappa a dappa was
Speaker 1: created to be even higher than us, and that all
Speaker 1: the secrets of the universe. The mysteries are within our body.
Speaker 1: And I believe that because when I started studying DNA
Speaker 1: that took me into a whole DNA study. I discovered
Speaker 1: this this scientist called George Church, and he created this
Speaker 1: ebook that he was able to take from a digital
Speaker 1: format and he was able to download it onto one
Speaker 1: drop one gram of DNA, a digital book. He converted
Speaker 1: it from AC's, t's, and g's from zeros and ones.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he converted from zeros and ones into ACS, t's,
Speaker 1: and g's, re read write, put it on the DNA.
Speaker 1: Then he said, wow, this is incredible. DNA can store
Speaker 1: information in the volume. Then he said, okay, this is
Speaker 1: what we're going to do. Let's replicate this book. So
Speaker 1: he replicated the book eighty billion times on one gram
Speaker 1: of DNA. And this is a this is not just
Speaker 1: a regular E book. This book had graphics and images
Speaker 1: and everything else in it. So then he said, let's
Speaker 1: see if we can get it back. So he converted,
Speaker 1: he created or read write again. He converted it from AC's, t's,
Speaker 1: and g's back to zeros and ones and upload it
Speaker 1: back to the server. So now he knows that DNA
Speaker 1: can upload and download information. Crazy? WHOA. So now they said, okay, well,
Speaker 1: how much data can be stored on one drop? Over
Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty three petabytes of data? A petabyte
Speaker 1: is a thousand terabytes.
Speaker 2: What an unfortunate name.
Speaker 1: I know, right, that's a crazy name. I was like,
Speaker 1: why'd y'all name it this? That to byte? But anyway, yeah,
Speaker 1: they said, now they discovered recently on whole meum atoms,
Speaker 1: scientists have now written information data onto an individual hole
Speaker 1: meum atom. And they they discovered that we can store information,
Speaker 1: they can read write directly onto the surface of an
Speaker 1: actual atom. Now think about that for a second.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So they're saying that a human body can store thirteen
Speaker 1: point five billion years or roughly of data, which is
Speaker 1: roughly around the time they believe the universe probably exists,
Speaker 1: so that myth of Adapa text could be accurate. The
Speaker 1: secrets of the universe is probably encoded into our body
Speaker 1: because we're just recycled atoms.
Speaker 2: Right, and then as we evolve technologically and biologically, we
Speaker 2: develop a higher and higher ability to access that information exactly.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. The longer we go, the
Speaker 1: more we're able to tap into this information, tap into
Speaker 1: who we truly are. We begin to walk in our power,
Speaker 1: look inside, go to inner space, not outer space. We'll
Speaker 1: begin to tap into this. And they discovered now that
Speaker 1: junk DNA is no no longer junk. They're taking the
Speaker 1: term junk off of it, that it really has function.
Speaker 1: It always had function. It was never junk. That's just
Speaker 1: a word to keep us programmed. They're thinking that we
Speaker 1: are junk.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it was a way for them to
Speaker 2: explain something that they couldn't explain.
Speaker 1: Right, But when you use the word junk, if you
Speaker 1: if you understand affirmations, I would never call myself junk.
Speaker 1: So that's a weird way to do it. But now
Speaker 1: they're finding out that that's you know, and again in
Speaker 1: the myth of a Dappa, it's saying that we're going
Speaker 1: to tap into this. So I believe that all of
Speaker 1: our innate abilities that we used to have are going
Speaker 1: to start to come back over time, like access seeing
Speaker 1: Earth's magnetic field with the magnetite crystals in our brains.
Speaker 1: We all have billions of magnetite crystals in our brains.
Speaker 1: And they put a guy into a laboratory and they
Speaker 1: put a giant barb magnet and moved it around the room.
Speaker 1: And they put an EEG cap on him and a
Speaker 1: scanner and they saw that they were orienting themselves to
Speaker 1: the magnetic field. So we still have the ability to
Speaker 1: navigate magnetic fields, we just don't don't even know. We're
Speaker 1: unaware of it.
Speaker 2: Well, we know it exists in animals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we have it in our body as well.
Speaker 1: So all these things are going to be to begin
Speaker 1: to come back.
Speaker 2: There's a there's so little true understanding of like how
Speaker 2: birds migrate, like how they all know when to do it?
Speaker 2: And what what is calling them? What a very specific direction?
Speaker 2: Are they using landmarks on the ground or they just
Speaker 2: be using some sort of a magnetic field or they
Speaker 2: just tuned in to where the north pole is? And
Speaker 2: what are they doing? How are they doing it? What
Speaker 2: is the organ that's allowing them to do it? Is
Speaker 2: that something that humans have? And we just we it
Speaker 2: went away, just like I can't remember anybody's phone number anymore. Finally,
Speaker 2: high step many phone numbers it had.
Speaker 1: We had to happen because we're you know, we're seventies babies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're still you maybe sixty sixty young seventies seventy one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but what happened was if you look at
Speaker 1: the tablets again, this is why I love these tablets. Man.
Speaker 1: They talk about the fact that you know, they had
Speaker 1: created this, this being not created from scratch, but genetically modified.
Speaker 1: They add their essence to it. Is what they say,
Speaker 1: added our essence. So by adding the essence, you can
Speaker 1: see where all of a sudden, maybe our ancestors were
Speaker 1: in tune with the magnetic field and we're able to
Speaker 1: communicate psychopathically, maybe even had telekinesis and these other inate
Speaker 1: abilities weren't technologically advanced, but maybe more spiritually advanced, and
Speaker 1: they tinkered with us and took away our memory, took
Speaker 1: away our ability to tap into that so we can
Speaker 1: focus solely on them. Mmmm.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess if you were gonna you know, have
Speaker 2: you ever seen the movie Prometheus? Oh yeah, when the
Speaker 2: alien dies and DNA goes into the water. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: you were gonna play a real long game and seed
Speaker 2: life in the universe, and then you were gonna, I mean,
Speaker 2: especially with us, you were going to create something that's
Speaker 2: very sophisticated and encode inside of it enough information that
Speaker 2: they could figure out everything. Just it's gonna take time,
Speaker 2: so you have to earn this information.
Speaker 1: But it's in there.
Speaker 2: It's such a compelling theory. The problem is I get
Speaker 2: so wrapped up in these that I hope they're true.
Speaker 2: When I hope they're true, to stop thinking critically, because
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's the most fun. It's the most fun
Speaker 2: to think that we were created by aliens, the most
Speaker 2: fun to think there's a base on the north side
Speaker 2: of the moon. But the undeniable stuff that, to me
Speaker 2: is equally compelling. I think even then the Aliens is
Speaker 2: like how did they make the pyramids? Like who did that?
Speaker 2: Who did that?
Speaker 1: And that?
Speaker 2: What was that culture? Like like if I could go
Speaker 2: one place, I would go to Egypt, Giza when it's thriving,
Speaker 2: when it's thriving whatever. I don't even know what the
Speaker 2: number is, you know, I don't know if it's a
Speaker 2: John Anthony West number or if if it's a you know,
Speaker 2: a more conventional number of four thousand, whatever it is,
Speaker 2: Just get me there, Just let me see what that was.
Speaker 2: What were you guys doing, How the fuck did you
Speaker 2: make that thing? How did you get those stones from
Speaker 2: five hundred miles away? How did you cut them so perfectly?
Speaker 2: How did you get him all the way up in
Speaker 2: the ceiling of this giant king's chamber? What was that
Speaker 2: damn thing? Why did you have a gold cap on
Speaker 2: the top right? Like, what did you guys do? How
Speaker 2: did you make the gold cap?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: What did you guys do? Wild? I go with the
Speaker 1: John Anthony West theory. I'm closer to his timeframes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: rest in peace, John Anthony West. He was amazing, amazing,
Speaker 1: amazing man. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, magical Egypt, folks. It's a I think there's two
Speaker 2: versions of the video series that you can get online.
Speaker 1: Go find it. It's incredible. The first one I watched
Speaker 1: like ten times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, this is just the I mean,
Speaker 2: forget about speculation, forget about timelines, just the undeniable majesty
Speaker 2: of the construction of those structures and the statues, and
Speaker 2: like what they built was my God, like nothing else, ye,
Speaker 2: like nothing else in the world. No one's even a
Speaker 2: distant second place.
Speaker 1: No, not even closed.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Egypt can just stand above all of it, and
Speaker 2: it was so long ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's super ancient, you know. And what I like
Speaker 1: about johnnythan West his theory aligns with the Emerald Tablets
Speaker 1: date range, because you know, when he talks about the
Speaker 1: Great Sphinx being built two processional periods back, it takes
Speaker 1: it back to around thirty six thirty eight thousand years ago,
Speaker 1: around the same time that both claims to have written
Speaker 1: the Emerald Tablets. And in these tablets he talks about
Speaker 1: building the Great Pyramid. He said, build it eye the
Speaker 1: Great Pyramid pattern after Earth's force, so that it too
Speaker 1: might remain through the ages. So he claims to be
Speaker 1: the master architect of the structure of the Great Pyramid.
Speaker 1: And what he did was he incorporated into it advanced science.
Speaker 1: It's not just a power generator. It's also, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: it also could be a multifunctional stone computer. Okay, and
Speaker 1: this thing calculates the orbits of the planets and the
Speaker 1: inner Solar system, which is crazy.
Speaker 2: How does it do that?
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, Well, if I have some can I
Speaker 1: open up this just rec notes. I got some incredible
Speaker 1: notes that I did, some math that I'm.
Speaker 2: Amazed at how much you don't need notes, because a
Speaker 2: few people that come on this podcast that blow me
Speaker 2: away without notes, like Terrors is one of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Roonda Patrick, she's the other one of them. I
Speaker 1: just want to get the numbers exact, you know. So
Speaker 1: one thing, the equatorial circumference of the Earth can be
Speaker 1: calculated by the Great Pyramid, because the Great Pyramid itself
Speaker 1: is one by forty three thousand, two hundred scale down.
Speaker 1: So if you take the Great Pyramid and scale it
Speaker 1: up forty three thousand, two hundred times, it fits directly
Speaker 1: inside the sphere of the Earth, and it touches the equator.
Speaker 2: Okay, so meaning the dimensions of how the angles of
Speaker 2: it would fit inside of a sphere.
Speaker 1: Inside of a sphere. It's a representation of the Earth
Speaker 1: in a pyramidal format. Okay, that's crazy. And if you
Speaker 1: multiply that by the base perimeter, you get twenty four thousand,
Speaker 1: seven hundred and thirty four point ninety four miles, which
Speaker 1: is roughly within one hundred and seventy miles of the
Speaker 1: circumference of the planet Earth itself, okay, which is wild.
Speaker 1: You can also calculate the speed of the Earth around
Speaker 1: the Sun, so the Great Pyramid, basically you take a
Speaker 1: pyramid in times ten to eighth power, it equals the
Speaker 1: speed of Earth around the Sun.
Speaker 2: The problem with these kind of calculations is flint Dibblem
Speaker 2: made note of this that you could take that and
Speaker 2: you could do that with a lot of different things,
Speaker 2: like what was the one he used for four to twenty.
Speaker 2: He's a bunch of different funny ones. Yeah, he was
Speaker 2: explaining how you take these arbitrries procession of the equinox numbers,
Speaker 2: and you could multiply them times like whatever you want.
Speaker 2: You could get a bunch of different results, like based
Speaker 2: on what you wanted the result to be, not based
Speaker 2: on the actual.
Speaker 1: Some of them are hard to do. Check this out.
Speaker 1: Forget about multiplying things, what about taking the fact that
Speaker 1: the pyramid, the Great Pyramid is located at the center
Speaker 1: of land mass on Earth, not the center of the Earth,
Speaker 1: the center of land mass. Now, the only way you
Speaker 1: can put the pyramid at the center of land mass
Speaker 1: is you have to have a polar orbiting satellite, if
Speaker 1: we were to do it today, a polar orbiting satellite
Speaker 1: that's orbiting this way and as Earth spins on its axis,
Speaker 1: you're taking swaths of data and you're calculating the land mass,
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna say, okay, this is the center
Speaker 1: point for land mass and you put it there.
Speaker 2: So the centerpoint for land mass being you take the
Speaker 2: surface of the earth, what percentage of it is covered
Speaker 2: with water, where the ground is right, and then you
Speaker 2: find the center of where the most ground is, and
Speaker 2: that's where the pyramid is.
Speaker 1: Exactly. The exact thing is taking all the average heights
Speaker 1: of all the peaks on Earth and then dividing that
Speaker 1: to get the average height and making that the height
Speaker 1: of the Great Pyramid. Now ooh, you can't just randomly
Speaker 1: calculate those numbers.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the average height of all the mountains and
Speaker 2: the peaks on Earth.
Speaker 1: That's right. Wow, that's right, and that's an absolute fact.
Speaker 1: The Grand Gallery, the latitude of the Grand Gallery inside
Speaker 1: the Great Pyramid leading into the King's Chamber. The latitude
Speaker 1: are the exact digits of the speed of light in
Speaker 1: meeting per second. You can't just randomly calculate that one.
Speaker 2: Well, you can't just get those stones down. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's not one thing about it. You mean, you can
Speaker 2: get real crazy with numbers and mathematics, but there's not
Speaker 2: one thing about it that's not completely insane. Like every
Speaker 2: single aspect of it is completely insane. The fact that
Speaker 2: we still will try to pretend today that it's not
Speaker 2: impressive or that it was impressive, but that they did
Speaker 2: it with sand and they did it.
Speaker 1: With like how do you know, well, you would need
Speaker 1: more mud if you the mud ramp theory, you would
Speaker 1: need more mud in mass than the pyramid itself. So
Speaker 1: that's that's a farce, the mud thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, just show me one, Yeah, show
Speaker 2: me one.
Speaker 1: Just here's the problem with that mud bram theory. I
Speaker 1: don't think people realize. I take people on tour to
Speaker 1: the pyramid every single year. I take people on a
Speaker 1: huge origat last year we had one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: people on tour in Egypt for twelve days or whatever
Speaker 1: it was. But the pyramid itself, each individual stone at
Speaker 1: the pyramid, excuse me, Each individual stone at the pyramid
Speaker 1: is a different shape and size. There are no two
Speaker 1: stones that are perfectly the same. Each stone fits in
Speaker 1: the interlocking format. So you can't say, go over here
Speaker 1: and cut these stones. We're gonna bring them over here
Speaker 1: and we're gonna throw up this pyramid. It doesn't work
Speaker 1: that way. Each stone is made individually, specifically for the
Speaker 1: location that it's exactly.
Speaker 2: In because they all have to be in an angle
Speaker 2: because you're all going up towards this angle.
Speaker 1: So interlocking cut perfect exactly, so they're interlocking stones, and
Speaker 1: there's there's no way to say, just cut this cookie
Speaker 1: cutter out and we're gonna bring them and hoist them
Speaker 1: in this And if you accidentally cut the wrong size
Speaker 1: or you're off by a few inches, you can't make
Speaker 1: the period. You can spend a week or two getting
Speaker 1: a stone into a location that don't fit. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. They had four knowledge. People don't take
Speaker 1: the amount of resources, energy, effort that it took to
Speaker 1: build that structure and then guessing that it will work
Speaker 1: out in the end. You only build that if you
Speaker 1: have a complete blueprint and you've got proven facts right,
Speaker 1: you have proof of concept that it works, and you've
Speaker 1: done this before.
Speaker 2: Do you think about the other pyramids that are wonky,
Speaker 2: like the ones that aren't perfect. Do you think that
Speaker 2: they were trying to duplicate the Great Pyramid? Do you
Speaker 2: think they were trying to make their own.
Speaker 1: The deeper you go into antiquity, the more perfect construction was.
Speaker 1: The further you come forward in time, the more wonky
Speaker 1: and crazy things are, and begin to fall apart.
Speaker 2: So do you think they just forgot how to do it?
Speaker 1: The knowledge was lost. You can see the evidence of
Speaker 1: the knowledgement by the time we got to Alexander Great.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Alexandria? No, I thought I
Speaker 1: was going to go see this incredible place. It looks
Speaker 1: like a bunch of crap, a bunch of piled up rocks,
Speaker 1: buildings leaning on each other, even the people living in
Speaker 1: apartments that are leaning, buildings leaning. Oh wow, everything there
Speaker 1: looks just what. The stones are small. I could pick
Speaker 1: up those stones with my own hands. They try to
Speaker 1: duplicate the majesty of ancient Egypt, but they didn't even
Speaker 1: come close.
Speaker 2: It's just so bizarre that one civilization got so much
Speaker 2: further than everybody else, and no one really.
Speaker 1: Knows exactly how they did it right light years ahead.
Speaker 2: Now, when you hear the carbon dating of the Great Pyramid, you,
Speaker 2: what is your take on that? Because the radiocarbon dating
Speaker 2: is two thousand and five hundred pc, right, that's what
Speaker 2: they think.
Speaker 1: I just don't believe it.
Speaker 2: Why is that?
Speaker 1: Well, First of all, the way that the structures made
Speaker 1: if you look at other structures made in that same timeframe.
Speaker 1: They don't have the same magic, so they don't have
Speaker 1: the same level of construction, they don't have the same
Speaker 1: capability of withstanding time. So why are these falling apart?
Speaker 1: But this one isn't falling apart.
Speaker 2: But that's not necessarily I think, because look, you could
Speaker 2: have a shitty house today and you can live right
Speaker 2: next to Jeff Bezos's house.
Speaker 1: That's very true.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just there's going to be different cultures
Speaker 2: and different abilities, and you know, different.
Speaker 1: Craftsmen within the same region. I'm talking about in the
Speaker 1: same area.
Speaker 2: But even in the same area, you're always going to
Speaker 2: have people that suck.
Speaker 1: If you look at the Subterranean Shaft, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've ever been there. It descends beneath the Great
Speaker 1: Pyramid down to the ground on a specific angle about
Speaker 1: sixty five meters, and there's another thirty me to drop
Speaker 1: straight beneath that.
Speaker 2: And this is where Christopher dunne As hypothesized that there
Speaker 2: was something that was creating a frequency down there, something
Speaker 2: that like pounds in the earth, creates a very specific
Speaker 2: frequency and a very specific vibration that goes through the
Speaker 2: entire stone structure, which theoretically could work. Oh yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: And then this whole thing about using different chemicals in
Speaker 2: these shafts that leak through the limestone, and that limestone
Speaker 2: is porous, and you would have a specific amount of
Speaker 2: thickness with limestone, so you'd know exactly how much chemicals
Speaker 2: to put in the shafts. And the shafts did exist,
Speaker 2: and they did have openings to them, and they were sealed.
Speaker 2: You could open them up and dump things into them.
Speaker 2: And then then the passageway that goes into the King's chamber,
Speaker 2: the so called King's chamber, and that it has opening
Speaker 2: shafts that go to the heavens, the.
Speaker 1: Whole and I think, I know why my hypothesis on
Speaker 1: those shafts. You look at the way the pyramids design
Speaker 1: the Queen's chamber is technology. It seems to be like
Speaker 1: an electrolysis generating machine to extract hydrogen from water. And
Speaker 1: Kristine had the same pretty close to the same hypothesis
Speaker 1: I had with that. Now, why hydrogen. It's the most
Speaker 1: abundant element in the universe, and right now today we
Speaker 1: try to communicate with et on the hydrogen frequency. Now,
Speaker 1: those shafts, imagine on the certain alignments we know for
Speaker 1: a fact, that that pyramid aligns with specific planets or
Speaker 1: stars orion El, Debron, Draco, these alignments and then these
Speaker 1: shafts would send out this hydrogen frequency potentially on my
Speaker 1: hypothesis around those alignments. Why for communication purposes updates on
Speaker 1: this breakaway civilization Because I believe there was an ancient
Speaker 1: galactic war which I talk about my show, my docuseries
Speaker 1: an Ernaki, and this ancient war created these space refugees
Speaker 1: which then spread out around the Milky Way. Earth just
Speaker 1: happens to be one of the breakaway civilizations.
Speaker 2: It's not outside the realm of possibility when you think
Speaker 2: about what we're doing, and if we get more advanced
Speaker 2: and do this better, that we could be still involved
Speaker 2: in very similar types of activities throughout the galaxy. It
Speaker 2: sounds terrible, but that just might be how things get done. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: war might just be a part of our essence, and
Speaker 2: it might be a part of the whole cosmic balance
Speaker 2: of good and evil. That the shifting of the winds
Speaker 2: and this you know, of the tides coming in and
Speaker 2: coming out, is like this, it needs good and bad,
Speaker 2: it needs all these things.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, in the Biblical text, God says in Isaiah,
Speaker 1: I create the good and I create the evil. Do
Speaker 1: what I say the Lord, right, he's saying he creates
Speaker 1: good and evil. Yin and yang is what they call in,
Speaker 1: you know in ancient cultures, right, good and evil, dark
Speaker 1: in light and saw the same thing.
Speaker 2: It's the most fascinating subject to me, It really is.
Speaker 2: The most fascinating subject is when I hear stories from
Speaker 2: the Bible or the Blaga bad Ghita or the Talmud
Speaker 2: or any any stories, like what what was the origin?
Speaker 2: What were they trying to say? What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What? What were they documenting? What were they sharing in
Speaker 2: an oral tradition of the history of people and of
Speaker 2: the earth and of the heavens themselves? Like what were
Speaker 2: they sharing? What were those things? How much of it
Speaker 2: was myth? How much of it was someone misinterpreted the
Speaker 2: original story and watered it down. But at the beginning
Speaker 2: of it, even at the beginning, there was light. Just
Speaker 2: it's literally like the Big Bang. It's literally describing what
Speaker 2: the current scientists believe happened. And then you think about
Speaker 2: these stories of floods, and then we know there's evidence
Speaker 2: like the Randall Carlson work, all his work on the
Speaker 2: flooding that existed where you could see these enormous channels
Speaker 2: cut through that it is indicative of just insane amounts
Speaker 2: of water over a short period of time. And when
Speaker 2: he describes that, you're like what. And then the fact
Speaker 2: that we know that there's asteroid impacts, there's comet impacts,
Speaker 2: and that the ice age ended abruptly, and that all
Speaker 2: these areas like this is where it was, this is
Speaker 2: where it went down, And this might be every fucking
Speaker 2: story that you've heard from the beginning of time time,
Speaker 2: epic of Gilgamesh, no in the arc, all these stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all of it. I mean, obviously the Noah story
Speaker 1: is inside of the epic of Gogamesh. Yes, I believe
Speaker 1: that is a result of the Younger Driest incident and
Speaker 1: the epic of Atrajasis. There is this, uh, this this
Speaker 1: strike or the of this either an asteroid or whatever
Speaker 1: it is, it's going to hit It doesn't specifically say,
Speaker 1: but they had the ability to stop it. And there's
Speaker 1: this other disc that has cuneiform writing on it, which
Speaker 1: is supposedly the direction that this thing took course through
Speaker 1: space to hit Earth. And so it was kind of
Speaker 1: known that this was going to happen, and everywhere you
Speaker 1: look on the Earth around that same time period that
Speaker 1: this is estimated to happen, megalithic construction stopped. What happened
Speaker 1: that everyone stopped at the same time, unfinished in the quarry, unfinished,
Speaker 1: the quarry of the unfinishing the quarry. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: around the entire planet, everything is unfinished. Something happened globally
Speaker 1: that made people stop working on these structures and go
Speaker 1: to maybe Darren Kou underground base or in the in
Speaker 1: the Americas that you know they say the ant people
Speaker 1: the hope. He said, the ant people took them under.
Speaker 1: If you couldn't go under and save yourself, you had
Speaker 1: a ship. We know that Ziazudra and the Epic of
Speaker 1: Gogamesh was told how to build this ship. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't a boat like what we know what was said
Speaker 1: in the Bible. It was actually a disc he was
Speaker 1: told to build. We found the tablet for that, so
Speaker 1: we have the tablet in the British Museum. It was
Speaker 1: an actual disc that looked like pie sections on the inside.
Speaker 1: And he was told to collect his local floor in
Speaker 1: fauna and his local livestock, not two of every kind
Speaker 1: in the world. He didn't get two ticks and two
Speaker 1: fleas and two it didn't happen. He had local livestock.
Speaker 1: But he built a disc, not a ship, which is
Speaker 1: pretty interesting. But yeah, these stories are everywhere. You know,
Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: It is crazy, and it's just so strange when you
Speaker 2: see resistance to the idea while there's still real evidence
Speaker 2: of this impact. Once there was real evidence of the impact,
Speaker 2: once the younger dries impact theory started being discussed by
Speaker 2: legitimate scientists, and they recognized when they're doing these core
Speaker 2: samples that they find nuclear glass, and they find all
Speaker 2: of these things like iridium that are very common in space,
Speaker 2: very rare on Earth, all this very thin layer. It's like,
Speaker 2: it's real clear. There's a time where all this shit
Speaker 2: goes down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it happened.
Speaker 2: And there's also mass die offs in places. And my
Speaker 2: friend John Reeves, have you ever seen the Alaska boneyard
Speaker 2: on Instagram?
Speaker 1: No? I haven't seen that one.
Speaker 2: Wow, Jamie pull that up. So he has this piece
Speaker 2: of land and he's a gold miner in Alaska. He's
Speaker 2: a fucking great character and he has this amazing piece
Speaker 2: of land that they've pulled out thousands of bones and
Speaker 2: tusks and wooly mammots and animals that aren't. The Boneyard
Speaker 2: Alaska is his instagram, that things that weren't even supposed
Speaker 2: to exist in that area. They have absolute proof of
Speaker 2: these things existing, different cats and short faced bears and
Speaker 2: all kinds of shit. So they're pulling things out every day.
Speaker 2: He just texted me the other day asked me to
Speaker 2: come out and blow out a massive on bone. I
Speaker 2: can't make it, bro I I'm busy, but I love
Speaker 2: this dude. And what he's doing up there is all
Speaker 2: his This is his property, so he's got it all documented.
Speaker 2: He's got warehouses, he spent millions of dollars doing all
Speaker 2: this stuff. And his one area it's only a few acres. Man,
Speaker 2: it's only a few acres. Imagine what's really up there.
Speaker 2: And what he thinks is that there was a mass
Speaker 2: die off that probably happened instantaneously, and all these things
Speaker 2: got swept in the water and washed down into this
Speaker 2: one particular area where they collected, and that's where he's
Speaker 2: finding them.
Speaker 1: That makes sense.
Speaker 2: So he's got two very specific areas that aren't that big,
Speaker 2: just a few acres each. I think the biggest one
Speaker 2: is like six acres. It's crazy. And so they're using
Speaker 2: these high pressure hoses and they shoot into the permafrost
Speaker 2: and they slock because it's you know, it's cold, it's
Speaker 2: got melt there, so everything is just frozen into the ground.
Speaker 2: So they blast into the permafrost and start to loosen
Speaker 2: things up and show some of the images of the
Speaker 2: warehouses that he I mean, insane amounts of tusks and bones.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And there's even more than this.
Speaker 1: The the.
Speaker 2: What is the museum in New York that has his bones?
Speaker 2: Natural History Museum From the previous owners of this property,
Speaker 2: they took a bunch of these bones and they wind
Speaker 2: up dumping some of them in the East River because
Speaker 2: they had too many of them.
Speaker 1: Oh man.
Speaker 2: So then they've sent out people what is his name,
Speaker 2: dirty Water Dan Don, Dirty Water Don, Dirty Water Don.
Speaker 2: Who's this fucking scuba diver guy who goes into the
Speaker 2: East River who found wooly mammoth bones and what the
Speaker 2: other one? Bison bones, all these different bones at the
Speaker 2: bottom of the fucking East River exactly where he said
Speaker 2: they would be dumped off.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So they dumped them because they had so much of them,
Speaker 2: and then they have a bunch of them that are
Speaker 2: still there. So now they have Alaskan politicians who are
Speaker 2: pressuring the museum to release these things back to these
Speaker 2: people so they can get them in the hands of
Speaker 2: people that could fucking study them, right, because they just
Speaker 2: have them locked up and they're just trying to say
Speaker 2: that they're theirs. First they tried to deny they have them.
Speaker 2: Then he provided paperwork and there's proof, and then they
Speaker 2: denied there was ever any dumped into the East River.
Speaker 2: But now they pulled them out of the East River.
Speaker 1: Now they know it's real.
Speaker 2: So look at this.
Speaker 1: That's this is insane. That's an incredible grave yard.
Speaker 2: This is insane. Wow, boning, he calls them when you
Speaker 2: help your it's a boneyard. So if you go there,
Speaker 2: you become a boner. So he wants to make me
Speaker 2: an official boner. So all these bones, I mean, this
Speaker 2: is just a small sampling of what this guy has.
Speaker 2: We have one out there. We have a bison head.
Speaker 1: Wow, that he gave me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that is. Yeah, that's probably fifteen thousand
Speaker 2: years older.
Speaker 1: That's what this whole thing is insane. Look at all
Speaker 1: this stuff.
Speaker 2: He's got. I mean, it's just and this is just
Speaker 2: one small area that they're chipping away at so en
Speaker 2: there's charred surface. There's a layer that they go through
Speaker 2: that's all completely charred. And he's documented this too, like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck happened here? Look at this layer? This
Speaker 2: layer is insane. This whole place was up in flames.
Speaker 2: See the char he's got it into sand. There's thick
Speaker 2: layers of that. Couldn't scroll up to his caption. What
Speaker 2: does it say? Something came in hot from out of
Speaker 2: this world. I'm thinking what you're looking at is what
Speaker 2: we found on the bedrock when we're digging the drain.
Speaker 2: The bed rock is burned, the gravel is burned, and
Speaker 2: nobody knows why yet. That's okay, we'll figure it out someday.
Speaker 2: So there's a whole layer of this. It's clearly something
Speaker 2: was on fucking fire.
Speaker 1: Definitely. Well, we found charge stones just like that at
Speaker 1: the base, ejected out from the base of the bent
Speaker 1: pyramid of dozer. Really and if you look at this,
Speaker 1: we've been documenting this. I'm gonna put it in my
Speaker 1: TV show, you know, the Inner Naki series. There's areas
Speaker 1: of the bent pyramid that look like they've been blown out.
Speaker 1: Something hit it and blew out the stones and charred
Speaker 1: them black like, just like that. And there's like a
Speaker 1: debris field out there, and nobody is studying this stuff.
Speaker 1: So we started studying these these charred stones and these
Speaker 1: charred rocks. And up above the area where you kind
Speaker 1: of walk in to go down into the Bent Pyramid,
Speaker 1: there's more look like another impact point where there's more
Speaker 1: stones blown away, and as you walk out away from
Speaker 1: the face, you discover that's where they lay and you
Speaker 1: put your hand in the sand and pull up these charred,
Speaker 1: burnt stones, which is just wild. So can we see
Speaker 1: some of that? See what they look at the vent pyramid,
Speaker 1: the Bent pyramid. If anybody goes to those corners, there's.
Speaker 2: A common theory, this theory of being hit by something.
Speaker 1: Nobody's talked about it yet, you know. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: trying to We're trying to analyze and see what could
Speaker 1: have happened.
Speaker 2: A piece hit there, but like the bigger impact were
Speaker 2: somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Just wipe. When something comes in, it breaks into the chunks,
Speaker 1: and then a piece hits over. You see that corner there,
Speaker 1: You see that corner. Now that corner, you know, I
Speaker 1: wish we could get a better color picture, but there's
Speaker 1: a debris feel there. All those stones are just it
Speaker 1: looks like an impact and there's out away from it.
Speaker 1: There's charred burnt rocks in the sand. You pick up
Speaker 1: a regular piece of rock, you can see what that
Speaker 1: is or g O do you put it up these
Speaker 1: It looks like charred burnt stone that came from the
Speaker 1: pyramid soon.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see the image of the chark is.
Speaker 2: To me when I'm looking that, it's just like people
Speaker 2: are stealing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah you get yeah, yeah, but you know that that's
Speaker 1: exactly what it looks like. But that's not stealing rocks there.
Speaker 1: And the guy, the homegoing archaeologist that was with it's
Speaker 1: Mohammed Ibrahim, has the same exact belief because we are
Speaker 1: able to see the broken those areas there, the mass
Speaker 1: of what's missing, the majority of it's in the sand,
Speaker 1: which is why I would send you the photo.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so it wasn't stolen.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're knocked off, Yeah it's there, it's still there,
Speaker 1: So I'll send you. I'll send you the photo.
Speaker 2: You please click on the one. Yeah that one. Thank you?
Speaker 2: Can you make that one bigger?
Speaker 1: I see?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so all that got blown apart.
Speaker 1: It's blown apart, and it's the mass is still there.
Speaker 1: A lot of it turned into dust and powder, but
Speaker 1: the the black pieces are further towards would be further
Speaker 1: toward me.
Speaker 2: Can you tell us where we could find images of
Speaker 2: those the charred I have some. Can you show them to.
Speaker 1: Jamie or I'll send them to you right away. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you can't.
Speaker 2: Air drop it because you're using foreign technology.
Speaker 1: Not even Yeah, we'll just download them and email them
Speaker 1: to you, but we want to be able to do
Speaker 1: it Google photo drive right now.
Speaker 2: Could you just send it to him if you got
Speaker 2: you an email, we'll do it right now. Okay, Jamie,
Speaker 2: will you give him an email? We'll paus it for
Speaker 2: a second. Folks, you get these images, okay. So we
Speaker 2: left off with the burnt pyramid areas that look like
Speaker 2: they've been hit. Yeah, and he said, so we got
Speaker 2: the photographs from your wife, so let's take a look
Speaker 2: at them. Here. So this is a video.
Speaker 4: How I have the videos because they were gonna give
Speaker 4: me screenshots from the videos, so I figured if we
Speaker 4: just look at the videos instead, there's one that's kind
Speaker 4: of more zoomed in.
Speaker 1: But yeah, sorry, it's sorry to get the idea of
Speaker 1: the coloration. Did discoloration there from the resolute uh you
Speaker 1: know phone video?
Speaker 2: Do we have any other videos or is it just
Speaker 2: videos Jamie or we have photo?
Speaker 1: Okay, those areas, those black areas on the stone, a few.
Speaker 1: If you rob them, they get very black underneath. There's
Speaker 1: also other pieces that are smaller laying further out there.
Speaker 2: So there's charred areas that have been covered with dust.
Speaker 1: And sand or time, right exactly.
Speaker 2: But if you brush it off, you see a charge.
Speaker 1: You see those dark areas there on those stones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not the that's not the natural color at all.
Speaker 1: Those colors there, and the geologist and the homegrown guide
Speaker 1: that will used in the archaeologist also said that's not
Speaker 1: the normal coloration. They don't know what energetically happened here.
Speaker 2: Okay, So now I see it. I see it in
Speaker 2: that stop right there. I see it in that stone
Speaker 2: right there as well. So it charred and then over
Speaker 2: the thousands of years covered with dust and sand. But
Speaker 2: if you dust off the dust and sand, you see
Speaker 2: the charred.
Speaker 1: Surface, right yeah, which is crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, that does kind of make sense if a little
Speaker 2: chunk hit that, yeah, and a bunch hit some other
Speaker 2: spots and that was just yeah. And it also makes
Speaker 2: sense if you think about how an advanced civilization like
Speaker 2: that can just disappear. What would what would have to
Speaker 2: be the moment? It just doesn't make any sense. I
Speaker 2: know there's the burning of the Library of Alexandra with
Speaker 2: a lost a lot of the information, but I.
Speaker 1: Think that might have been a book heist. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the burning of the Library of Alexandria was
Speaker 1: a heist. The burning did happen, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: but that was just a distraction to steal the knowledge,
Speaker 1: and that the majority of that knowledge ended up in
Speaker 1: the Vatican archives. That's what is one of my favorites. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: I went there with my family a few years back
Speaker 2: and I was blown away and I highly recommend it
Speaker 2: to anybody that gets to go to Rome.
Speaker 1: If you go to Rome, please go to the Vatican.
Speaker 1: It's stunning.
Speaker 2: It's stunning all the artwork they have, and they also
Speaker 2: have an Egyptian obelisk.
Speaker 1: Yes, the Creditor and you know that oblist. That courtyard
Speaker 1: is the same courtyard as Tiotuba Khan. If you look
Speaker 1: at not the dimensions, but just the actual shape of
Speaker 1: that courtyard, it matches the courtyard of TiO Tibo Khan.
Speaker 1: So really, yeah, it's an incredible coincidence that they built
Speaker 1: it based on the Tia Khan where the Avenue of
Speaker 1: the Dead has those platforms, and then you have the
Speaker 1: Pyramid of the Sun or on the right and the
Speaker 1: Pyrament of the Moon straight ahead. That area resembles the
Speaker 1: courtyard of the Vatican.
Speaker 2: Wow, the Vatican is so insane. It really I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I knew that it had a lot of art. I
Speaker 2: didn't know. When you go to Saint Peter's Basilica, you're
Speaker 2: just like, what what did you do? Did you how
Speaker 2: much time did this take? This is so intricate and
Speaker 2: so incredible. It's one of the most spectacular things I
Speaker 2: think I've ever seen in my life in terms of
Speaker 2: like what human beings can do with ingenuity and time
Speaker 2: and artisans and craftsmen and people that artisans that just
Speaker 2: create the most insane ceiling you've ever seen in your life.
Speaker 2: So intricate, yeah, I mean, and perfect for a house
Speaker 2: of worship because you walk in there you believe in
Speaker 2: God like immediately.
Speaker 1: Right, like this is obviously God, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And the fact that they did it for so long,
Speaker 2: hundreds of years to make that place, I know, it's incredible,
Speaker 2: it's so amazing.
Speaker 1: Un Lets you know that the time periods where people
Speaker 1: would operate within a golden age in certain regions of
Speaker 1: the planet and have time to do that type of
Speaker 1: extensive art and craft and beauty, create that kind of beauty, right.
Speaker 2: And the only way you do that is when you
Speaker 2: got your resources covered and your army strong.
Speaker 1: That's it. And that was Rome, yep.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's what they were back then.
Speaker 1: They try to take over the world. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the thing about what they're what they have is
Speaker 2: they don't have to kind of tell you. So if
Speaker 2: they do, like there's archives that they have in Rome
Speaker 2: that haven't been searched, like we're not, they're not just
Speaker 2: opening them up to everyone so that everyone could look
Speaker 2: in and see what they have. So there's always been
Speaker 2: speculation that they have some wild shit written.
Speaker 1: Down in there. Yeah, some wild stuff. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: investigating aliens, you know, right, I mean one of the
Speaker 1: popes most recent spa you know, they were talking about
Speaker 1: years ago, though he were talking about years ago that
Speaker 1: they wanted to the pope wanted to baptize the first alien.
Speaker 1: Now that's incredible. That's an incredible statement.
Speaker 2: That'd be like, turn and meet you cuckoo into a
Speaker 2: scientificis right, It's like that would be hilarious.
Speaker 1: And then they built this telescope called Lucifer to look
Speaker 1: for alien life.
Speaker 2: That's not a good name. You would think that anybody
Speaker 2: who would know.
Speaker 1: Better, right, the light bearers that you know what lucifer
Speaker 1: means supposedly, But yeah, they built a telescope named Lucifer.
Speaker 2: Right, But the swastika used to be a sign of peace.
Speaker 2: You can't really use it anymore.
Speaker 1: Now you can't use it, I know, I know they somebody.
Speaker 2: It's like things can be stolen forever. No one's rocking
Speaker 2: that Hitler mustache. That's a wrap.
Speaker 1: It's over. Mustache's over. No one's getting called Adolph.
Speaker 2: That's over. That's over.
Speaker 1: You know that they wrap. I guess they didn't want to,
Speaker 1: you know, cut that name loose, but they utilized that
Speaker 1: name for that, the name of that and it's actually
Speaker 1: in America. I believe it's in Arizona, really Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, kidding, Wow, Lucifer telescope kooky. All of the telescopes
Speaker 2: are fascinating, But it's really the most interesting to me
Speaker 2: is the James Webb and the information that's coming out
Speaker 2: about the birth of the cosmos and about how they're
Speaker 2: looking at these galaxies that seem too big, that they've
Speaker 2: formed too quickly, and that they're starting to re examine
Speaker 2: the timeline of the Big Bang, and then they're reconsidering
Speaker 2: whether or not they were correct with this thirteen point
Speaker 2: what is it.
Speaker 1: Nine or seven thirteen point five to thirteen point eight
Speaker 1: billion year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they think these galaxies should not exist in
Speaker 2: this I was just watching a documentary on it yesterday
Speaker 2: or a couple of days ago where they were getting
Speaker 2: into why this doesn't make sense and the size of
Speaker 2: these galaxies and they were two formed and I believe
Speaker 2: it was five hundred million years after the Big Bang, Like,
Speaker 2: this doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, according to us now with our right yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we're still trying to figure out what dark matter is.
Speaker 2: Right. Well, I'm just the Terrence Howard. The concept of
Speaker 2: stars creating planets and the planets eventually getting to a
Speaker 2: Goldilock zone and eventually getting out and then this is
Speaker 2: how life propagates through the universe. It makes so much sense.
Speaker 2: And with our limited understanding of the cosmos and our
Speaker 2: adherence to very specific ideas of how it all was created,
Speaker 2: and the resistance to things like even the James Webb
Speaker 2: telescopes discoveries, you realize that, like science, like everything else,
Speaker 2: it's when it's practiced by humans. Humans fuck everything up.
Speaker 2: They use their ego, they use arrogance, they don't want
Speaker 2: to be corrected, they want their initial ideas to be correct.
Speaker 2: And then there's you know, a lot of great scientists
Speaker 2: that are just looking at it and going, this is amazing.
Speaker 2: Let's keep doing this, and let's get an even better
Speaker 2: telescope out there that maybe could see even further, and
Speaker 2: maybe we'll have to re examine what we think about
Speaker 2: the birth of the universe exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just keeps getting better. Technology keeps getting better.
Speaker 1: I remember Hubble when it came back with the two
Speaker 1: trillion skybook. Two trillion galaxies is what estimated exists within
Speaker 1: our known universe. And then the web comes out and
Speaker 1: it's just showing this stuff in much more clarity, and
Speaker 1: it's probably going to make discoveries that are even going
Speaker 1: to surpass obviously Hubble in terms of the quantity of galaxies.
Speaker 1: And it just keeps getting better and better. We're getting
Speaker 1: a bigger and better understanding of our place in the
Speaker 1: universe as a whole. And some people are scared of that.
Speaker 1: This is why they don't want it to get out.
Speaker 1: They don't want the information to be put forward that's
Speaker 1: going to change the paradigm. But the paradigm is not
Speaker 1: to be afraid. The paradigm shift is about to be embraced.
Speaker 1: Embrace this new, huge part of us that's connected directly
Speaker 1: to us. We're part of it, and it's part of
Speaker 1: us intrinsically, energetically. And I think people are just afraid
Speaker 1: of what they think is the unknown because it makes
Speaker 1: them feel small. When I hear all this stuff going
Speaker 1: on out there, it makes me feel bigger because I
Speaker 1: know that I am part of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are part of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We like to think as individuals, right, you know, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm not important. The universe is infinite exactly.
Speaker 2: Universe is not just infinite. It's so infinite that the
Speaker 2: infinite nature of the universe might be a part of
Speaker 2: an atom in another infinite universe.
Speaker 1: That's universe. Yeah.
Speaker 2: When you go fractals on things and you start thinking
Speaker 2: about it in that terms, you just know what. It's
Speaker 2: never ending. It's just this constant thing that's in you
Speaker 2: in sub atomic particles, and deeper than that, and then
Speaker 2: further out than that. It just never ends. It goes
Speaker 2: both ways forever. You just go, oh boy, it's hard
Speaker 2: to take yourself too seriously.
Speaker 1: It's listen. It's hard because I think individuality, I think
Speaker 1: individuality is an illusion. We appear to be separate in individuals,
Speaker 1: but energetically we're really all the same entity, that same
Speaker 1: consciousness experiencing itself differently subjectively through different bodies.
Speaker 2: Yes, different life experiences, exact genetics, different places in the world. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but we're all the same thing. And you know that's
Speaker 2: the hardest thing for people to get in their head.
Speaker 2: Anyone that you run into is you living another life.
Speaker 2: We're all the concept of me. When you think about
Speaker 2: everyone has that same feeling of me. Everyone has me
Speaker 2: inside of them, just me with less information, more information,
Speaker 2: better brain, better this, better that, shittier, the shittier that.
Speaker 2: And there's an infinite number of examples of it, and
Speaker 2: then it probably exists everywhere in the cosmos, and it's
Speaker 2: probably what facilitates change and growth, is that there is
Speaker 2: this imbalance and that there is this constant struggle amongst
Speaker 2: human beings. That's probably what makes us constantly try to improve.
Speaker 2: It's just very disheartening to think that we improved to
Speaker 2: the point where we can travel to other planets.
Speaker 1: And have a war. I know, I know, we don't
Speaker 1: want that to happen.
Speaker 2: We don't want it to happen, but just if it
Speaker 2: really did happen here, it just makes you think, like,
Speaker 2: is that just what we do forever? And is this
Speaker 2: just when we have this utopian perspective of being able
Speaker 2: to eliminate war on Earth someday, which no one thinks
Speaker 2: is going to happen, and not with this current version
Speaker 2: of human beings. And then you think, well, if we
Speaker 2: we surpassed Earth, if we passed out, if we passed
Speaker 2: our genes and our civilization out into the universe, are
Speaker 2: we still going to be behavior the same way? And
Speaker 2: if we were, if I was an alien, I'd be like,
Speaker 2: don't let those dudes in, you know, if we get
Speaker 2: to a point where we're us now, But five hundred
Speaker 2: years from now with the same genes, same wacky ass
Speaker 2: crazy jeans. But now we have time travel. Now we
Speaker 2: have interplanetary travels like that, and then we show up
Speaker 2: with nuclear bombs. They give us all your titanium, right,
Speaker 2: you know, like fuck, you know, like that's a problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have been a problem. I would be
Speaker 1: really trying hard to stop us if I was from
Speaker 1: another planet. I think a lot a lot of these
Speaker 1: suppression and oppression of technologies. Potentially, this hypothesis could be
Speaker 1: that there there's a hand in the background holding us
Speaker 1: back a little bit. It's quite possible.
Speaker 2: But then there's a theory like the Diana Pasolka's books
Speaker 2: where they talk about these disks that they have found
Speaker 2: in the recovery program that apparently does exist, and they
Speaker 2: call them donations. They think that these things are kind
Speaker 2: of left here so that we can just go, oh, fiber.
Speaker 1: Optics, what a great idea, Bell Crow.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a lot of these things that seem
Speaker 2: to like transistorships, right. Yeah. A lot of these things
Speaker 2: seem to have come very quickly after Roswell, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: That's a fact I believe in the ARV's alien reproduction vehicles.
Speaker 1: I believe that exactly is what's really going on with
Speaker 1: a lot of these UAPs. I think that there are
Speaker 1: a lot of them are ours. I believe that there's
Speaker 1: UFOs out there, but a lot of these objects that
Speaker 1: we see in the sky are probably made by us
Speaker 1: by re engineering existing alien technology. Uh and so, but
Speaker 1: you know, it comes to the point, are we going
Speaker 1: to be able to advance as a civilization, to get
Speaker 1: beyond war. I just saw they released an AI fighter
Speaker 1: jet that went into a dog fight. Yes, just a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike Baker was on here showing us that. Right.
Speaker 2: It beats the beats the human piloted planes of the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's Skynet online.
Speaker 2: And then on top of that, instead of just AI
Speaker 2: powered fighter jet, you could develop a fighter jet that
Speaker 2: no longer has a person in it, so you have
Speaker 2: to worry about G forces. You can do wild shit.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly, and it's fully AI controlled vehicle.
Speaker 2: Especially as these technologies scale up, Like I have a
Speaker 2: Tesla up and my Tesla has auto drive, and I
Speaker 2: can set in a destination like a restaurant I like
Speaker 2: to go to press auto drive and navigation and it
Speaker 2: does everything. It hits the blinkers, it stops at stop signs,
Speaker 2: it stops at red lights, It takes turns, it changes lanes,
Speaker 2: it moves around park vehicles. It's fucking wild man, and
Speaker 2: it's not done yet. And this does it does hit curbs.
Speaker 1: I heard.
Speaker 2: I heard it hits curbs. I heard like when you're
Speaker 2: taking turns, like for overpasses or underpasses, like a few
Speaker 2: people have curbed up. So keep your hands on the wheels, kids.
Speaker 2: But it's not there yet. But it's a lot better
Speaker 2: than what when I first got it. I remember I
Speaker 2: was driving down Laurel Canyon and I was with my
Speaker 2: wife and we were I was playing around. I was like,
Speaker 2: I have like we're listening to led Zeppelin, and I'm
Speaker 2: like moving my hand around the steer where I'm like,
Speaker 2: look at this car's driving itself. This is crazy. But
Speaker 2: that was primitive back then. I didn't totally trust it.
Speaker 2: It was probably probably better than I thought it was,
Speaker 2: but like every now and then it would you would
Speaker 2: get a little wonky. Now it's smooth, Wow, now it's
Speaker 2: you would use it all Jamie.
Speaker 1: Here and there.
Speaker 4: I kind of almost forget sometimes where that was like,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, this car drives its fuck itself.
Speaker 2: I do it for a goof sometimes, Yeah, just randomly.
Speaker 2: I've been doing it a lot lately though. It's shockingly good.
Speaker 1: Well, grandkids are gonna that's all they're going to know.
Speaker 1: They won't have to drive at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah right now, Like like people joke around about manual
Speaker 2: cars that it's a good theft to turrent device have.
Speaker 1: A manual transmission. Nobody knows how to drive that fucking thing.
Speaker 1: It's hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it used to be the only way you
Speaker 2: can get a car. I was it.
Speaker 1: I learned. I learned to by accident, you know, because
Speaker 1: I was in an emergency situation and I had to
Speaker 1: drive up my friend's car that was a manual. I
Speaker 1: had to learn within the distance between where I was
Speaker 1: to where I had to go. Oh wow, because one
Speaker 1: of my kids had got hurt doing something and.
Speaker 2: The only carveill was a manual.
Speaker 1: That was it. Yeah, it's not hard.
Speaker 2: I mean you could learn it quick, but most people
Speaker 2: don't know how to do it. But the thing is
Speaker 2: like that's going away, Like they're they're now saying that
Speaker 2: the next version of Porsche's is going to be the
Speaker 2: last version that they have with the manual transmission and all. Yeah,
Speaker 2: which is crazy because Porsche, that was the one thing
Speaker 2: that people held onto is that you could get that
Speaker 2: stick shift. People love that engagement of the car. But
Speaker 2: that's going to be the thing of the past. Everything's
Speaker 2: going to be automated because your freedom to drive that
Speaker 2: people are gonna you know, the communist nature of especially California,
Speaker 2: they'll do it first. Probably your freedom to drive that
Speaker 2: is not worth you know, the potential of you taking
Speaker 2: someone's life in an accident, right, you know, And this
Speaker 2: is makes sense. That's part of the problem. It does
Speaker 2: make sense. You can see the argument.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it makes sense. And that's where everything is
Speaker 1: going to go. I mean there's going to be so
Speaker 1: many I mean drivers are going to disappear, like you know,
Speaker 1: so first and so forth. It's all going to go away.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of that in here. They cause traffic jamps.
Speaker 2: These wacky driverless cars, you know, they have them here
Speaker 2: and they're not quite there yet, but they're good enough
Speaker 2: to take people around, which is crazy. You know, take
Speaker 2: me to red astro, drives you to the restaurant, drops
Speaker 2: it off by thank you. Yeah, all on an app.
Speaker 2: Everything's done simple. It's kind of nuts, and it's us
Speaker 2: the beginning. I mean, we didn't have any of this
Speaker 2: ten years ago. Ten years in most time.
Speaker 1: Periods is not that big of a deal. Technology, no, technologically,
Speaker 1: rather yeah, right now anything fast?
Speaker 2: Well, chat CHEEPT five when they release that, it's going
Speaker 2: to be as big a leap, if not bigger than
Speaker 2: three to four, and three to four was nuts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in one hundred years we went from
Speaker 1: a horse, buggy and carriage all the way to putting
Speaker 1: remote control cars on Mars. So we're moving at an
Speaker 1: extremely fast pace right now. And they just released this
Speaker 1: chat GPT and other robotics on humanity, which is great.
Speaker 1: It's going to do a lot of good for us.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if you're going to replace
Speaker 1: somebody's job, you have to then take away their financial responsibilities.
Speaker 1: You can't expect them to still have the financial responsibilities
Speaker 1: and take away the job, right, So that's going to
Speaker 1: be the conundrum. I'm waiting to see how that's going
Speaker 1: to pan out. How many of us are going to
Speaker 1: stand up and say, look, wait a minute. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: a mother, I'm a single mother of three, and I
Speaker 1: can't waitress anymore, So what's going to happen? Or even
Speaker 1: attorneys are at risk, nurses are at risk now, So
Speaker 1: here's what you're going to do.
Speaker 2: There's enough money in this country, just in this country alone,
Speaker 2: to if you did replace jobs, you make it so
Speaker 2: that whatever controls that industry has to give a certain
Speaker 2: percentage to ensure not just like a living wage, but
Speaker 2: a good wage where people live well and they don't
Speaker 2: have to think about it. But then you got to
Speaker 2: give people a purpose because you can't just have them
Speaker 2: laying around getting free money and not having a life.
Speaker 2: Because a lot of people their purpose is their job.
Speaker 2: You know, that's what they look forward to. They get
Speaker 2: engaged with something. They have a community there, they have
Speaker 2: tasks that they do, they succeed, they go out to
Speaker 2: dinner and celebrate. That's a big part of life for people.
Speaker 2: You can't just take that away. So then how does
Speaker 2: that get replaced? I think it's video games. I think
Speaker 2: they're going.
Speaker 1: To go into CyberWorld. When you look into the ancient texts,
Speaker 1: they had similar situations in these golden ages, but people
Speaker 1: spent time working for things like service to others, traveling
Speaker 1: arts and crafts, exploring inner peace. So it's about teaching
Speaker 1: people's new people new ways to define and develop their
Speaker 1: passions and how to explore those passions.
Speaker 2: Well, that would be a big yoga explosion across the country.
Speaker 2: That'd be cool, that would be great. Yeah, people get
Speaker 2: into fitness, martial arts and just to be able to do.
Speaker 2: But you have to do something if you're I mean, well.
Speaker 1: If you become stagnant, you die. Yeah, and you.
Speaker 2: Still should have the ability to possibly work if you
Speaker 2: want to. Right, it shouldn't be mutually exclusive. Like you
Speaker 2: don't get this money unless if everybody got like two
Speaker 2: hundred grand a year, just to imagine, the entire country
Speaker 2: just gets a free hundred two hundred grand a year.
Speaker 2: You're never gonna have to worry about food. You're never
Speaker 2: gonna have to worry about a place to live. You're good,
Speaker 2: you got two hundred thousand dollars a year because everything's
Speaker 2: automated and everything's done by the government. Then you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to find something. You're gonna have to find a purpose.
Speaker 2: You're gonna there's got to be a thing that whether
Speaker 2: it's art or writing or whatever it you better find
Speaker 2: something or you're gonna go crazy and something. There's gonna
Speaker 2: be a percentage of our population that's active. They're gonna
Speaker 2: be working out, and there's gonna be a bunch of
Speaker 2: us that just fuck off and drink beer and play
Speaker 2: Call of Dude. You sit down, Yeah, just get hammered
Speaker 2: and fucking order pizza and never have to do anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: live in a nice place. You don't have to worry
Speaker 2: about money. Ever. You can always buy like a good laptop,
Speaker 2: and you get together with your buddies and you all
Speaker 2: play games. But you better have something, go bowlding, you
Speaker 2: better have something. You better have something you like to do, you.
Speaker 1: Know, because that's where that's where it's going there.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be better than work? Because for most people,
Speaker 2: like you know, there's a great satisfaction working and accomplishing
Speaker 2: a hard day's work and you know, you get your
Speaker 2: paycheck and you feel like you've accomplished something. But wouldn't
Speaker 2: it be better if you just all of your needs
Speaker 2: were met and we put an emphasis in our culture
Speaker 2: on creating and doing things that interest you and whether
Speaker 2: it's competition or whether whatever it is. But this would
Speaker 2: be financed essentially by this ability that you just get
Speaker 2: free money because robots control everything.
Speaker 1: They have no more jobs, have no more jobs, They
Speaker 1: don't have to pay a salary to these robots only
Speaker 1: costs exactly the management costs obviously. So Yeah, and the two.
Speaker 2: Hundred thousand dollars that everybody gets, they're getting it anyway
Speaker 2: because they were going to buy stuff from.
Speaker 1: Them, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: It would be a wild change and shift in how
Speaker 2: human beings interacted. And if if there was a way
Speaker 2: for us to channel that in a positive manner, it
Speaker 2: could ultimately be beneficial and we could be looking back
Speaker 2: on these days or people that work at Wendy's and
Speaker 2: know what the fuck was that about?
Speaker 1: Well, most people are working in jobs that are not
Speaker 1: they're not passionate about these jobs, right, And it's evident
Speaker 1: in their work, you know, their their effort and their
Speaker 1: their work ethics.
Speaker 2: It's also evident in their success right and their happiness.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Like a guy like you who likes to do, you
Speaker 2: do what you like. You enjoy this, you pursue this,
Speaker 2: you talk about this, You're very good at it. This
Speaker 2: is a great way to live. Yeah, And other people
Speaker 2: can find other similar things or different things that similarly
Speaker 2: excite them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if we were under that new scenario of
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand a year or whatever it was, I
Speaker 1: would still do this, of course, you know, so of
Speaker 1: course people will work. It's like Star Trek. They work
Speaker 1: for free on Star Trek. They don't you know, it's
Speaker 1: just a TV series, but they don't have a paycheck.
Speaker 2: Kirk didn't get paid.
Speaker 1: No, they never got paid any money.
Speaker 2: It was all for free, Communists.
Speaker 1: They were trying to put us into communists. It's all
Speaker 1: for free. But they did it because they were passionate
Speaker 1: about it, when they believed in it so much. And
Speaker 1: so there's things that people can still do if they're
Speaker 1: passionate about those things. And you know, it's just work.
Speaker 1: But you don't ask for a paycheck.
Speaker 2: Right, if there was a base paycheck for the whole country,
Speaker 2: just a base paycheck based on I wonder if two
Speaker 2: hundred grand's even possible. What is two hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: times three hundred and thirty three million. Check that out, Jamie.
Speaker 1: Zero and only only one hundred ninety million our adults,
Speaker 1: one hundred ninety million adults.
Speaker 2: Right, that's right. Let's just make let's be generous, let's
Speaker 2: make it two hundred million adults. Yeah, so two hundred
Speaker 2: million times two hundred thousand is.
Speaker 4: What so be two times two is four. Add all
Speaker 4: those zeros from the two hundred thousand onto the four million, right,
Speaker 4: what is that in?
Speaker 1: Like the word.
Speaker 2: Is it trillions? Tw two hundred thousand times two hundred million.
Speaker 4: Two hundred million, eight zeros.
Speaker 2: So six zeros, six zeros is a billion nine zeros
Speaker 2: is No, six zeros. A million nine zeros is a
Speaker 2: trillion of billions.
Speaker 4: Giving me forty thirteen. So it's four to thirteen zeros.
Speaker 2: Thirteen zeros, four thirteen, four times thirteen zeros.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of money, folks. Yeah, you gonna have.
Speaker 2: To drain these oligarchs.
Speaker 1: We tax the wrect What was the what was the numbers?
Speaker 2: Two hundred thousand times two hundred million.
Speaker 1: Forty billion? That doesn't sound right. That is going to be.
Speaker 4: It is either forty billion or four hundred billion.
Speaker 1: It's a forty billion dollars forty billion, that's it. That's reasonable.
Speaker 1: That's preasonable billion.
Speaker 2: So reasonable. Yeah, that's so reasonable.
Speaker 1: That's less than the military industrial complex budget for the year.
Speaker 2: One hundred per Imagine that, folks. I just want you
Speaker 2: to think about that. We could give two hundred million
Speaker 2: people two hundred thousand dollars a year. That's a good
Speaker 2: amount of money. Two hundred thousand dollars is nice. You
Speaker 2: can live in a nice house, go on vacation, you
Speaker 2: can eat well. Two hundred thousand dollars not bad at all.
Speaker 1: Not bad at all.
Speaker 2: And if you did that, you could also still work,
Speaker 2: you could also still make money. But everybody, if we
Speaker 2: just elevated every adult in this country to that amount
Speaker 2: of money, and it will be you're talking communist now,
Speaker 2: I'm talking everything's going to be automated, folks, And there
Speaker 2: should be some sort of attax on the result that
Speaker 2: this has on society, particularly when if everything is automated,
Speaker 2: the people who run the automation and they're going to
Speaker 2: be making staggering amounts of money. So if a tax
Speaker 2: of forty billion dollars a year to keep everybody happy,
Speaker 2: keep everybody from going fucking crazy, I mean that might be.
Speaker 2: It sounds crazy because it goes against human instincts, right,
Speaker 2: like human nature is.
Speaker 1: A program from what we've been programmed to believe is correct.
Speaker 2: And it's not because we were designed to mind for goal.
Speaker 2: That's right, designed to work hard, right, design work hard
Speaker 2: because it's kind of in our head that we have
Speaker 2: to work hard.
Speaker 1: Listen, we're so a program to believe what happened in
Speaker 1: ancient times, that we believe the government is in control
Speaker 1: of us. When we're in the control of the government, right,
Speaker 1: we allow them to tell us what to do when
Speaker 1: we should be telling them what to do and what
Speaker 1: and what we want. But we sit back and allow
Speaker 1: them to put rules in place, laws on us, and
Speaker 1: even lock us up and do things to us. And
Speaker 1: there's nothing we can do about it. But people think
Speaker 1: there's nothing we can do. There is something we can do.
Speaker 1: We've given up our power. We've relinquished our power to
Speaker 1: an outside source because of divide and conquer. It allows
Speaker 1: it to work. Once we realize that divide and conquer
Speaker 1: is just a distraction that we should coordinate together and organize,
Speaker 1: then we can take back control of this planet.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And this, this idea of the government being in
Speaker 2: control of you is literally how it works with every
Speaker 2: single country in the world. It's just a natural course
Speaker 2: of human nature that the people in power want more power.
Speaker 2: You know, when you're selling skateboards, you want to sell
Speaker 2: more skateboards next year. You know, when you're in power,
Speaker 2: you don't you won't. You don't want to relinquish some
Speaker 2: of your power and make it better on the people.
Speaker 2: Don't you want to clamp down that power more. We
Speaker 2: had to get on Facebook and stop these people from
Speaker 2: tweeting about things or posting about things. You know, we
Speaker 2: have to this has become a problem. Let's put pressure
Speaker 2: on this company to censor certain voices on YouTube, exactly.
Speaker 2: And that's the shit that happens. That's that's really what happens,
Speaker 2: because they're not acting in the best interests of humanity.
Speaker 2: They're acting in their best interest, which is what every
Speaker 2: industry does when it's just trying to make money.
Speaker 1: Exactly. Well, the United States is a company. It's a corporation, right,
Speaker 1: and so they're acting like a corporation.
Speaker 2: That's that's the reality of it. I agree with you
Speaker 2: two about this UAP thing. UFO UAP. Just many people
Speaker 2: have said this, but I'll repeat it that there's something
Speaker 2: about them doing it always near where military bases are too.
Speaker 2: That's super suspicious.
Speaker 1: Come on, I mean, listen to me. What's going to
Speaker 1: happen or what potentially could happen? Another Gulf of Tunkin incident,
Speaker 1: you know, the incident they created the Vietnamese War. They
Speaker 1: lied about an attack at the Gulf of Tonkin to
Speaker 1: create the Vietnamese War. Yeah, exactly. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you see one of these UAPs, they're going to call
Speaker 1: it one of these not hours, we don't know whose
Speaker 1: it is, and then it attacks a navy vessel. And
Speaker 1: now they've got the right to say, we need ten
Speaker 1: trillion dollars year, whatever the number is to create these
Speaker 1: these wefters iran Yeah, right, whatever, and it generates more money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, could this be wi of the formation
Speaker 1: of the space forces here? So they can find a
Speaker 1: way to channel money into something else where. These private
Speaker 1: corporations can create these black budget projects that we've approved
Speaker 1: because we're afraid we're going to be attacked by aliens now,
Speaker 1: and then they take that money and they develop these
Speaker 1: projects that never see the light of day, and they
Speaker 1: all chop up the money behind the scenes. Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's the reality of the world we live in, folks.
Speaker 2: And if you're clinging on to this left versus right,
Speaker 2: these cultural war arguments, you are getting caught up in
Speaker 2: their bullshit game. Most people want the same thing. They
Speaker 2: want to be healthy, They want their family to be
Speaker 2: healthy and happy. They want to have a pursuit that
Speaker 2: they enjoy. They want to enjoy their community, enjoy their
Speaker 2: loved ones. That's what most people want. Most people want
Speaker 2: the same thing. Most of the shit that you're seeing
Speaker 2: is all been stirred up by foreign governments and special
Speaker 2: interest groups and a bunch of shit. And if you're online,
Speaker 2: they're spoon feeding it to you. If you're online and
Speaker 2: you're engaging on social media, they are shoving that.
Speaker 1: Down your throat, gaslighting every.
Speaker 2: Day, gaslighting you every day. And it's more and more
Speaker 2: obvious now that it's ever been before, because people at
Speaker 2: least are aware of it. They know what's going on,
Speaker 2: but it is. It's shocking how much of it it's
Speaker 2: going on, and it's allowing us to fight with each
Speaker 2: other while all this shit is going on behind the
Speaker 2: scenes and all these hundreds of billions of I mean,
Speaker 2: we talked about forty billion dollars a year. What is
Speaker 2: the amount of money we spent so far in Ukraine?
Speaker 2: What's the They continue to raise it? Right, They just
Speaker 2: they just approved a new batch of money that's headed
Speaker 2: over there. It's insane amounts of money.
Speaker 1: We have infrastructure falling apart here, people on it. I
Speaker 1: just came from La a few weeks ago. People on
Speaker 1: the streets of La Okay.
Speaker 2: So Congress passed five bills appropriating one hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: five billion in response to rush to February twenty two
Speaker 2: invasion of Ukraine. So this is the May ninth of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, which is the most recent. So one
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five billion that could have solved all
Speaker 2: poverty in America. Literally solved poverty, which is wild. If
Speaker 2: poverty and crime are our number one problem in this country,
Speaker 2: which I would I would say they are, that would
Speaker 2: solve our number one problem.
Speaker 1: Crime is a side effect of the poverty.
Speaker 2: Yes, And you know I always said this. If Haliburton
Speaker 2: can get these no bid contracts to clean up Iraq
Speaker 2: after we bombit, and it's for profit, right, so they
Speaker 2: make a lot of money doing that. How about a
Speaker 2: no bid contract to clean up terrible neighborhoods exactly, no
Speaker 2: build contract to a no bid contract, rather to develop
Speaker 2: community programs and they'll be funded through this day. You'll
Speaker 2: make a ton of money and you can do this,
Speaker 2: and also you'll have a ripple effect. You'll have a
Speaker 2: less crime, you'll have more people that are out there
Speaker 2: in the workforce, you have more people that are being productive,
Speaker 2: more people that are inventing things and creating music and
Speaker 2: culture and art and all kinds of other things that
Speaker 2: people like to do, and they're not getting locked up
Speaker 2: in fucking jail exactly. And then you just have to
Speaker 2: figure out a way to get off the grip of
Speaker 2: the military or the rather prison industrial complex, which has
Speaker 2: a vested interest in keeping people locked up, because that's
Speaker 2: what the idea that we let that happen. We let
Speaker 2: it be profitable to put people in fucking jail, and
Speaker 2: then we let the prison guards actively campaign to make
Speaker 2: sure that certain laws day in place so that people
Speaker 2: keep getting locked up for nonviolent crimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the people that are locked up in America are
Speaker 1: locked up on victimless crimes. Yeah, they only hurt themselves.
Speaker 2: It's so nuts. And the amount of money that's generated
Speaker 2: by private prisons that should be zero. It should be
Speaker 2: zero dollars. It should be no incentive to put people
Speaker 2: in a cage.
Speaker 1: And you can't have capitalism and everything. Capitalism has to
Speaker 1: be broken into pieces. You can't have it in medicine,
Speaker 1: health care, prison systems. Right.
Speaker 2: You imagine if that was the way with the fire department.
Speaker 2: Imagine you had to pay to get your house put out.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: That's the one thing that we exist that we rather
Speaker 2: accept universally, that we pay for. It's a socialist idea.
Speaker 2: The fire department has paid for by the state. And
Speaker 2: we need fire department people. We need everybody well trained
Speaker 2: and all the equipment to be working perfectly. We all
Speaker 2: agree to that. Why, Because it's a real dilemma.
Speaker 1: It makes sense. It's logics. Poverty, so's crime and mental
Speaker 1: health and mental health and people on the street are
Speaker 1: mentally ill.
Speaker 2: And giving kids guidance, having community programs and having education
Speaker 2: programs and giving people like an avenue where they can
Speaker 2: get out from where they are and see a path
Speaker 2: to success so they don't feel despair, they have a
Speaker 2: possibility and show and have it be run by people
Speaker 2: who have already made it through. Say I can help you.
Speaker 2: Just like you could teach someone how to late piano,
Speaker 2: you could teach someone to do karate, you can teach
Speaker 2: people how to live Life's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it costs a lot less than what cost
Speaker 1: in the Ukraine.
Speaker 2: And how much would it benefit our economy, how much
Speaker 2: would it benefit our culture, our society. How much more
Speaker 2: would get done if there was less crime? A lot
Speaker 2: more And then those people have all instead of being criminals,
Speaker 2: now they're contributors.
Speaker 1: Is enough for everybody, and the civilization grows the way
Speaker 1: it should grow, Yes, the way it should direction.
Speaker 2: The problem is it's been captured. It's been captured by
Speaker 2: elites that want to keep draining money, and they keep
Speaker 2: draining money and using it for their own needs and
Speaker 2: their own means, and it's it's terrified.
Speaker 1: That's why I call it poly tricks. Poly tricks, that's
Speaker 1: what it's called. We made a pretty bad there.
Speaker 2: That's much more of an issue ladies and gentlemen. I retrend,
Speaker 2: but we're fucked. We're never gonna have enough money to
Speaker 2: fix this problem. I forgot what I said. So what
Speaker 2: is our GDP? What is it? Yeah, but that's the
Speaker 2: problem too, because that creates inflation. That's our GDP. Boy,
Speaker 2: there's a big dinish forty trillion and forty million. How
Speaker 2: many people are yelling at their freaking idiots.
Speaker 4: I worked backwards from one of the things we did
Speaker 4: says eight hundred and seventy five dollars. Like, wait, that
Speaker 4: is not enough to get everybody out of here.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
Speaker 4: GDP increased in twenty twenty three to twenty seven point
Speaker 4: thirty six trillion.
Speaker 1: That's our GDP every year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh so we don't even have enough money because
Speaker 2: it would take double our GDP.
Speaker 4: That's the two hundred k. If you want to go
Speaker 4: to two.
Speaker 2: Undk, well you have to give people, and it's only
Speaker 2: two hundred million people.
Speaker 1: It's not even everybody, right, that's forty four thousands.
Speaker 2: We're back to We're fucked it.
Speaker 1: Just it just cut it down to it in a half.
Speaker 1: You could do it if people if you do it,
Speaker 1: put it even then if you have it like eighty
Speaker 1: about eighty thousand dollars and then let people work to
Speaker 1: earn their own money and other things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two hundredand was a little loft, okay, so if
Speaker 2: it was forty trillion, you could get it down to
Speaker 2: fifteen trillion. It's still most of the money we make.
Speaker 2: It's still a lot.
Speaker 1: It's going to increase though, significantly in the next ten
Speaker 1: years because of the AI, right, Yeah, all the chips
Speaker 1: and robots. When a company can lay off, like Amazon,
Speaker 1: layof a thousand people and replace them with a thousand robots, right,
Speaker 1: their profit but their profit margin goes up significantly within
Speaker 1: the first eight to ten years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what if anything is being done to provide a
Speaker 2: safety net, because you can't give people two hundred bucks
Speaker 2: a week, you know, whatever it is, it's got to
Speaker 2: be a significant amount of money to actually get by
Speaker 2: whatever that number is, whatever we decide that number is,
Speaker 2: the number could be less if things are covered. Like,
Speaker 2: if AI becomes so efficient at creating power, we have
Speaker 2: it in our hand that power must be paid for.
Speaker 2: But if AI becomes so efficient and eliminates jobs, that
Speaker 2: we decide that we're going to nationalize all of our power,
Speaker 2: and then we'll look at power the same way we
Speaker 2: look at the fire department, right, and will we set
Speaker 2: it up as a socialist power system, which is not
Speaker 2: the worst idea in the world if you consider that
Speaker 2: most power is being generated by the use of natural
Speaker 2: resources which really belonged to the earth, and like that
Speaker 2: individuals are pulling these out and profiting from them wildly,
Speaker 2: especially when they're doing like offshore oil drills, Like who
Speaker 2: owns that spot. Yeah, how are you able to just
Speaker 2: suck all that oil and make billions of dollars out
Speaker 2: of the ground that we all live on? Like it
Speaker 2: seems like that should be everybody's right. But then you
Speaker 2: lose the incentive for profit that allows you to go
Speaker 2: dri dig.
Speaker 1: You lose the incentive. Yeah, I think that everything is
Speaker 1: going to move, not everything, but a lot of power
Speaker 1: is going to move towards hydrogen. That's the big new push.
Speaker 1: The Navy has vessels now that run off of hydrogen
Speaker 1: so they never have to go refuel.
Speaker 2: Do you know that Boba's Armade of Hydrogen corvette in
Speaker 2: like nineteen ninety Wow?
Speaker 1: Incredible that psycho Yeah wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he made He was such a freak. Wow, he
Speaker 2: is such a freak. But but I love that dude.
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by him. And I don't know if he's
Speaker 2: telling the truth, but boy, I hope he does he is.
Speaker 2: But you know, one of the crazy stories about him
Speaker 2: was in the Los alamost Labs days when he was
Speaker 2: living there in New Mexico, he developed a rocket powered Honda.
Speaker 2: So he put a engine on a fucking Honda.
Speaker 1: Wow, a lot of time on his hands.
Speaker 2: Well, he's just a genius.
Speaker 1: Genius's an absolute gena. Look, he talked about element one
Speaker 1: fifteen before we discovered Element one fifteen. Yes, so that's
Speaker 1: what sold me on him.
Speaker 2: Well, he also has never really varied from his story,
Speaker 2: and to tell a story for more than thirty years
Speaker 2: until the exact same story is pretty strange. And also
Speaker 2: didn't really profit off of it. No, it's not like
Speaker 2: a thing that he's like selling bab Lasar t shirts
Speaker 2: and you know, Babazar was right baseball hats and constantly
Speaker 2: going on podcasts. No, he did my podcast. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't even know if he's done another one.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know you got, you know a
Speaker 1: lot of hell for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'll try to get on again. But
Speaker 2: he's he's working on that. Well. During the Jeremy Corbell documentary,
Speaker 2: the FBI rated him, which is insane. It's insane, and
Speaker 2: he thinks that they believe that he has a stable
Speaker 2: version of Element one fifteen, that he has a sample of.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they went He thinks that's what they
Speaker 2: went looking for.
Speaker 1: We'll have to get their hands on that because the
Speaker 1: decay rates so fast.
Speaker 2: Well, the video that George Knapad. There's a video that
Speaker 2: George Napad from a long time ago where he was
Speaker 2: demonstrating with George Knapp how this element, when bombarded with
Speaker 2: radioactivity could distort gravity, and he showed some he had
Speaker 2: some experiment that they did that we could show with
Speaker 2: light and I don't exactly remember what the parameters of
Speaker 2: the experiment were, but that thing is one of the
Speaker 2: things that convinced George Knapp that maybe he's telling the truth.
Speaker 2: This whole thing is crazy. And then when you see
Speaker 2: these images where it shows these crafts behaving as he
Speaker 2: described that this gravity projection generator of whatever it is,
Speaker 2: this gravity generator, whatever, this thing is, whatever the they
Speaker 2: weren't exactly sure how to because they at least back
Speaker 2: then in eighty nine, but that you would turn towards
Speaker 2: where you wanted to go sideways and that's how it
Speaker 2: would travel.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And they saw these videos of these crafts doing that,
Speaker 2: of rotating, yes, by fighter jets. So fighter jets are
Speaker 2: locked in on them with these high speed sensors and
Speaker 2: they're they're locking in the and there's like a video
Speaker 2: where they go finally, I got it locked in and
Speaker 2: they're like, look at it go.
Speaker 1: Yeah I heard that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, see we find that video because that video
Speaker 2: is one of my favorites because the pilots are so
Speaker 2: genuinely excited about this. When they finally lock it in,
Speaker 2: I think that's the go fast, go fast, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: we got it, we got it locked in. Like what
Speaker 2: the fuck is this thing?
Speaker 1: Have you heard? Have you researched any of the vimanas
Speaker 1: from the ancient text? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very very fascinating because they in the Baga
Speaker 2: Bakita and in what is this the one? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is it, And in the Maha Barata they talk
Speaker 2: about these flying crafts like what is this uh? Which
Speaker 2: about to here? Is actually US fighter pilots powerful raytheon
Speaker 2: display pod display. I come on, not hearing any voices,
Speaker 2: Oh the air goes.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: They're just explaining how the display works, raytheon display, and
Speaker 2: how these fighter jets are using this trying to lock
Speaker 2: in on this thing. So look how it zoom's in.
Speaker 2: They see it pass by. It's going so fast. They're
Speaker 2: trying to lock in on it, but they're having a
Speaker 2: hard time, so they keep adjusting and they're trying to
Speaker 2: get their sensors so they got it. Yeah, now they're excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what the fuck is that? Oh my gosh, Like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is that? Right? Wild man?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 1: Like I said, I just see these things and I
Speaker 1: go back to the like the you know, the Vermanas
Speaker 1: they ran on a feral fluid vortex engine.
Speaker 2: That's how it was described.
Speaker 1: Yeah, feral fluid. So they had liquid feral fluid pharal fluid,
Speaker 1: which is liquid metal, and so they put liquid metal
Speaker 1: into f E R R O Feraroh, Federal.
Speaker 4: Used to have a ferro fluid lamp.
Speaker 2: Really, I watched that one thing you like put a
Speaker 2: magnet on it and the oh yeah, where is that
Speaker 2: is that in storage?
Speaker 1: So to use a para so you put if you
Speaker 1: take a Taurus we did a new one, Jamie, or
Speaker 1: a new one. If you take a Taurus and you
Speaker 1: put a feral fluid like mercury inside of it, and
Speaker 1: you magnetize the Taurus in a way that creates this rotation,
Speaker 1: this rpm of the of the mercury moving around that field,
Speaker 1: and you get it up to about sixty thousand RPMs
Speaker 1: and then you actually pressurize the Taurus to about two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand atmospheres and you electrify it, you
Speaker 1: get anti gravity properties. What yeah, whoa, So you can
Speaker 1: create an anti gravity flying device utilizing that technique and
Speaker 1: this is really you.
Speaker 2: Know, well known And how do they describe it in
Speaker 2: the text and.
Speaker 1: The textually talk about the fact that it used mercury
Speaker 1: in a rotating disc really yeah. And then they have
Speaker 1: some of the you know, the flight plans and some
Speaker 1: of the layout of actually the plans of the actual
Speaker 1: ship itself, one of the ships, and so from that
Speaker 1: you can almost hypothesize or backward engineer what it might
Speaker 1: have been able to do. And in the text it
Speaker 1: says they used to take a complement of men to
Speaker 1: many worlds. So this is incredible technology, a complement of
Speaker 1: men to many worlds. Yeah, wow yeah. So do you
Speaker 1: think that the government has access to something similar to that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I believe so one thousand percent. I believe they've been
Speaker 1: backwards engineering information from ancient texts and of course any
Speaker 1: artifacts that they found from anywhere in the world. They
Speaker 1: might have even gotten information from, you know, Saddam Hussein's museum,
Speaker 1: because that's the first place we went, and the Gulf
Speaker 1: after the whole situation happened with you know, wanting to
Speaker 1: go take him out of power and kill him. They
Speaker 1: went straight to the museum.
Speaker 2: So this Jimmy just pulled this up and says, flying
Speaker 2: with faro fluids to solve this problem. L Brad King,
Speaker 2: Ron and a lane Star, professor in space systems at
Speaker 2: Michigan Tech, is creating a new kind of microthruster that
Speaker 2: is assembles itself out of its own propellant when excited
Speaker 2: by a magnetic field. The tiny thruster requires no fragile
Speaker 2: needles and is essentially indestructible. We're working with unique material
Speaker 2: called ionic fluid, feral fluid, King says, explaining that it's
Speaker 2: both magnetic and ionic, a liquid salt. When we put
Speaker 2: a magnet underneath a small pool of feral fluid, it
Speaker 2: turns into a beautiful hedgehog structure of aligned peaks. When
Speaker 2: we apply a strong electric field to that array of peaks,
Speaker 2: each one emits an individual microjet of ions.
Speaker 1: WHOA exactly You have to electrify it. Once you electrify it,
Speaker 1: you create this electromenetic activity.
Speaker 2: This is what it looks like in.
Speaker 1: I think it's just trans giving, yeah, just giving you
Speaker 1: how it transfers itself. Wow.
Speaker 2: And so you could use that as something that could
Speaker 2: propel a device.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, wow. And you don't get to reduce the
Speaker 1: gravity the weight of an object to zero, but you
Speaker 1: significantly reduce the weight of an object.
Speaker 2: And the fact that they figure this out and then
Speaker 2: it's in is it in the Maha Barata or the
Speaker 2: bagabat Gita.
Speaker 1: And the Mahabarata? Wow? And they also I think we
Speaker 1: want to account in the Vedas, like what is.
Speaker 2: The definitely what's the explanation for how they figured that out?
Speaker 2: Like it help me out?
Speaker 1: They help me out. They just they say they have
Speaker 1: flying cities. They said that. They say they have flying
Speaker 1: cities and these cities would go to a battle sometimes
Speaker 1: against each other in the sky. Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you talked about massive objects flying around like and
Speaker 1: how do they explain that away? That's what I want
Speaker 1: to know. How do you explain that away? How do
Speaker 1: you explain somebody thousands of years ago sitting down to
Speaker 1: write a sci fi epic, Well, not just that.
Speaker 2: But writing about a process oh yea of creating this
Speaker 2: field that now has been documented all these thousands of
Speaker 2: years later.
Speaker 1: It works.
Speaker 2: Now, how did you figure that out?
Speaker 1: And this is you guys doing this happens over and
Speaker 1: over again in text and the Animal Tablets is the
Speaker 1: book I wrote. Both talks about using cymatic frequencies and
Speaker 1: light waves to create manifest solid matter and what happened
Speaker 1: about four years ago in the laboratory they used ciamatic
Speaker 1: frequencies and photons to create solid matter out of nothing.
Speaker 1: Just happened about four years ago. What did they create?
Speaker 1: They just create a few particles, you know. But the
Speaker 1: fact that we can do it, but it was it
Speaker 1: was already an ancient text.
Speaker 2: Wow, So now we can do it on very small scales,
Speaker 2: just like we can create element one fifteen with a
Speaker 2: collider correct, same kind of thing. And it's a very small,
Speaker 2: unstable version of element one fifteen that only exists for
Speaker 2: a fraction of a second. But they can measure it right.
Speaker 2: So but if it would sufficiently advanced technology, you could
Speaker 2: create it and then form a stable version of that.
Speaker 1: Imagine being able to build an entire city by manifesting
Speaker 1: the matter needed to build a city instead of harvesting.
Speaker 1: Instead of harvesting the city from three D print, the
Speaker 1: city with would USEE nanobox to build the whole city.
Speaker 1: It would manifest as it went, and the you could
Speaker 1: also use that to repair things absolutely, so you would.
Speaker 2: Never have to have construction again. Everything would be self correct,
Speaker 2: self reparable correct.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, of course if you just scale up, just
Speaker 2: think about what we can do now and keep going
Speaker 2: makes it much better and much more efficient.
Speaker 1: We're talking about programmable matter now, programmable matter.
Speaker 2: And what you were saying about DNA, the fact that
Speaker 2: you can encode into DNA and then you could actually
Speaker 2: hold information in DNA.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Microsoft has created the very first DNA hard drive.
Speaker 1: So it's a molecular hard drive that works on hard
Speaker 1: technology that's hardware and also a biological software. And so
Speaker 1: a device, a hard drive the size of my cell
Speaker 1: phone can store an enormous amount of petabytes of data.
Speaker 1: So things like teleportation are going to be possible in
Speaker 1: the near future. We've already teleported I think a couple
Speaker 1: of particles from Earth to the space station, right, but
Speaker 1: what's stopping us from teleporting a human being? Understanding and
Speaker 1: knowing the location of every atom and the rotation and
Speaker 1: spiramate of every atom, that's a lot of information, a
Speaker 1: lot of storage space. Now with DNA hard drives, the
Speaker 1: storage space problem goes away. We'll be able to teleport
Speaker 1: biological beings or objects, big objects into space or wherever
Speaker 1: we want on the planet, like star Trek.
Speaker 2: Like Star Trek, whoa, who's gonna be the first guy
Speaker 2: to get beamed up?
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna be a real guinea pick for that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have to find some pedal.
Speaker 1: Because when you teleport, you die. I don't know if
Speaker 1: people know that. Oh yeah, well that's a bit of
Speaker 1: an issue teleport. I mean you're reborn again instantly in
Speaker 1: the other location. But it's it's a facsimile of you.
Speaker 1: Anytime you teleport. Even the molecules that we teleport now
Speaker 1: the original version, the original molecule or the starting matter,
Speaker 1: it's destroyed and it's the data is then transmitted and
Speaker 1: then it's reformulated. So a teleportation is actually the death
Speaker 1: of you and the reformation of you.
Speaker 2: Maybe they could do a better job, like an Instagram filter,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe you could just like tone a
Speaker 2: few things up, clean up a little.
Speaker 1: Bit, get rid of some scars or whatever.
Speaker 2: Body fat right right, Maybe they can make a better
Speaker 2: version of you. You have to be willing to die. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but maybe that's hell. Maybe you come back and you
Speaker 2: have no soul, your soul doesn't go.
Speaker 1: Well, they're transmitting your consciousness, so everything is safe, all
Speaker 1: your informations say, and we know that was done also
Speaker 1: in ancient times, both talks and the emimal tablets about
Speaker 1: being able to go into these halls of Amante where
Speaker 1: he had rejuvenation chambers, which is what I believe is
Speaker 1: the serapeum and Sokara, and he would go into these
Speaker 1: gigantic stone boxes and he would then transfer his consciousness
Speaker 1: from his body into another body, and he would leave
Speaker 1: the other the body that he left inside of one
Speaker 1: of those gigantic boxes, one of those gigantic dior whte
Speaker 1: stone boxes, for one hundred years while it recharged itself
Speaker 1: and rejuvenated. While he said he walks amongst men, but
Speaker 1: unlike a man. What Yeah, And he would do this
Speaker 1: for eons. He would transfer from body to body, not
Speaker 1: bodies he stole, bodies he created that he didn't create
Speaker 1: it himself through probably some of the advanced form of
Speaker 1: stem cell technology. And he would walk amongst men, but
Speaker 1: unlike a man. And he was known all on the
Speaker 1: planet because of this the guy lived for he's according
Speaker 1: to the ancient Egyptians, he ruled over them for sixteen
Speaker 1: thousand years.
Speaker 2: One person, what yeah, yeah, So is this those ancient
Speaker 2: texts like the ancient hybrid glyphs that show kings going
Speaker 2: back like thirty thousand years.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the Sumerian Kings list located in the Aushmolean
Speaker 1: Museum in Oxford, England. I was there myself in person
Speaker 1: to check out this stonework and it's an incredible tablet
Speaker 1: that talks about the reigns of kings. Some kings rule
Speaker 1: for twenty eight eight hundred years fourteen thousand years, I
Speaker 1: mean twenty thousand. If the numbers are insane.
Speaker 2: These are not Egyptian.
Speaker 1: This is this is not Egyptian. These are Annachi. This
Speaker 1: is pre flood. This is anti diluvial. And then when
Speaker 1: the flood comes it talks about and then the flood
Speaker 1: swept over the land. After the flood happens, then they
Speaker 1: descend kingship from heaven back down to humans and then
Speaker 1: the reigns of humans begin. But there or they're not
Speaker 1: really full humans. They're demigards. They're half human, half and
Speaker 1: unaki uh and then their their lifespans are like, you know,
Speaker 1: much shorter because their ruling times are only like a
Speaker 1: thousand years and eight hundred years and seven hundred years
Speaker 1: and it starts to go down downtown.
Speaker 2: Why, like Noah is six hundred years old?
Speaker 1: Right exactly?
Speaker 2: So this this these tablets, what do they call it? Again?
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the uh Sumerian Sumerian Kings List?
Speaker 2: Can you show me that?
Speaker 1: Cham, I want to see what that looks like. It's
Speaker 1: a giant, four sided tablet located in the Ashmolean Museum
Speaker 1: in Oxford, England.
Speaker 2: And so what exactly does it say?
Speaker 1: Like it gives you those that's it right there, those
Speaker 1: are all four sides. And how old is this this is?
Speaker 1: You know they're saying six thousand, but believe me, it's
Speaker 1: much older than that. I just want to look at it. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: this is a copy of a copy of a copy
Speaker 1: of a copy over tens of thousands of years in
Speaker 1: my opinion, But this text gives the reigns of kings
Speaker 1: in Shars s h A r A Shars thirty six
Speaker 1: hundred years, so one sharp would be thirty six hundred three,
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty one thousand years of rule. Whoa
Speaker 1: on that stone right there.
Speaker 2: The Sumerian kings list. Now, if this is right, if
Speaker 2: this is all true, what a mind blowing idea that
Speaker 2: humans have been around, that we're engineered hundreds of thousands
Speaker 2: of years ago, and that this is the reason why
Speaker 2: there's this bizarre shift between lower primates in us, which
Speaker 2: you don't see in any other animal. Right, there's nothing
Speaker 2: like it. No, there's nothing like us.
Speaker 1: Look, we have forty six chromosomes right right, forty eight exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they discovered their chromosome number two was taken out? Are
Speaker 1: they call it an artificial mutation? They they mean geneticist
Speaker 1: fused together and two telemere caps put on one tilmere
Speaker 1: cap on each side. Who in the world took chromosome
Speaker 1: number two out, fused it together and put telomere caps
Speaker 1: on it? And they say that it happened and estimated
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand years ago, right at the time that
Speaker 1: Samerian tablets say they decided to make mankind to do
Speaker 1: the labor. There's no coincidence that the tablets are lining
Speaker 1: with modern science. And this means that a couple things.
Speaker 1: The first thing, it means that we were genetically modified
Speaker 1: The second thing that it means is the Telemere caps
Speaker 1: limit our lifespan to about one hundred and twenty years max.
Speaker 1: According to Harvard scientists. Now in the Bible, what does
Speaker 1: it say? It says that my siege shall not abide
Speaker 1: in Man forever. His years shall be one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1: That was taken from the Sumerian tablets even further back
Speaker 1: than that, thousands of years before the Bible was written.
Speaker 1: When and when yahweh Aka and Lil shows back up,
Speaker 1: sees the human beings building a tower into the heavens,
Speaker 1: copying a tower that they themselves had built. It pissed
Speaker 1: them off, and he said, whatever their hearts decided to do,
Speaker 1: they shall achieve it. My siege shall not abide in Man.
Speaker 1: His years will be one hundred and twenty. And then
Speaker 1: he did a genetic modification at that point, and I believe,
Speaker 1: with the telomeres, and he spread mankind out around the planet,
Speaker 1: and he confused their languages. He had us speaking different languages,
Speaker 1: so we couldn't collaborate. Now we're in competition, no collaboration,
Speaker 1: Divide and conquer.
Speaker 2: And there's the tower.
Speaker 1: Well, that's it. That's it. Man.
Speaker 2: So it was all done just to keep us from rising.
Speaker 1: Yes, we were advancing too fast and he had to
Speaker 1: slow us down. If we shorten their lifespan, then they
Speaker 1: won't have enough time. By the time they realize who
Speaker 1: they are and what power they have, they'll be dead.
Speaker 1: And see that's what's happened to us.
Speaker 2: So if the Onanochy are reel and New Biro is real,
Speaker 2: and the Biro is on an elliptical cycle that comes between,
Speaker 2: it's like Mars and Jupiter right somewhere around there.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's further out now, it's over time. It's
Speaker 1: orbit has been pushed out. And that's just one planet
Speaker 1: that these Internachy people come from. They come from many planets.
Speaker 2: But do you think that this planet New Biro that's
Speaker 2: on an elliptical orbit, if it's coming every three thousand,
Speaker 2: six hundred years, wouldn't there be some sort of documentation
Speaker 2: three thousand, six hundred years ago at the very least.
Speaker 1: Well, you have to look for geological disasters. As Marker
Speaker 1: points this object, this New Bureau planet, which is mentioned
Speaker 1: by the way, indeed new media, it's not a fabricated name,
Speaker 1: just so people know it's a real name. In the
Speaker 1: NUMEI Ilish, the oldest version of the illume. Milicious says,
Speaker 1: Nibureau is one of the planets. But you look at
Speaker 1: the timeframe when this thing gets close, it orbits another planet,
Speaker 1: another star, so it orbits a brown dwarf star. This
Speaker 1: brown dwarf store has the same amount of mass as
Speaker 1: our Sun, but it's much smaller, right, but it generates
Speaker 1: enough heat through friction and or it's orbiting planets. You
Speaker 1: can see it in two mass infrared mode coming out
Speaker 1: of the Constellation of Leo if you go to a
Speaker 1: worldwide telescope and download the software and all of that.
Speaker 1: But the fact that modern science now admit that there's
Speaker 1: an object out there that they say orbit our Sun
Speaker 1: every forty two hundred years. Right now. That's Corey Powell
Speaker 1: from Discovery Magazine. He's a he's a real astronomer. Been
Speaker 1: on Fox New he said that on Fox News. If
Speaker 1: I can find a clip, I'll send it to you
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, and so we'll find it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll find it. Yeah, Fox News, Corey Powell. And so
Speaker 1: what's happening is we are seeing evidence that there is
Speaker 1: something out there that's orbiting our Sun. And then our
Speaker 1: Sun is a binary star system. So we used to
Speaker 1: think that our sun one son and the solar system
Speaker 1: is normal. But as they look out into space with
Speaker 1: Hubble and now the Web, they discovered no, binary is
Speaker 1: more of the normal and even trinary, and and so
Speaker 1: it's like, wait a minute, if binary is normal, they
Speaker 1: start looking for this object that gravitationally should exist, and
Speaker 1: they believe that it's out there, far beyond the orbit
Speaker 1: of Pluto, and that Corey Power says a solar system
Speaker 1: exists within our solar system, and he goes on to
Speaker 1: say we come from there on Fox News, which is
Speaker 1: just crazy.
Speaker 2: So the idea, if you follow Terrence Howard's theory, is
Speaker 2: that matter comes from the Sun, it moves away, coalesces
Speaker 2: into planets, it gets to a Goldilog zone. Life comes
Speaker 2: out of that. Life becomes far more intelligent as time
Speaker 2: goes on, develops more capabilities, and then is also assisted
Speaker 2: by other beings that have been through this process already.
Speaker 2: And then if this scales out for hundreds of millions
Speaker 2: of years, you get to a point where this new
Speaker 2: Biro is or billions of years or whatever it takes
Speaker 2: for it to get all the way the fuck up.
Speaker 1: Well, I estimate that they're about a million years ahead
Speaker 1: of us technologically now it could.
Speaker 2: And then there's things that are millions of years ahead of.
Speaker 1: Them, oh way ahead of them. There's things that are
Speaker 1: far far ahead of them.
Speaker 2: Which is this is what's hard for us to scale out.
Speaker 2: We like to think that aliens of flying spaceships, that's
Speaker 2: the top of the food chain, right, but not even close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I was saying before, I never got to it.
Speaker 1: Really there's three types of beings I think that exists.
Speaker 1: One is a physical, corporeal being that could be what
Speaker 1: we see flying around in these UFOs, not all of them,
Speaker 1: some of them that visit us, that are interact with
Speaker 1: us in the ancient past, not all our little green men,
Speaker 1: but they have various different body types. The second kind
Speaker 1: that I believe is potentially multi dimensional beings. Okay, that
Speaker 1: there's life in every different dimension. And you know, Mitchell
Speaker 1: Okaku was famous for saying that the universe they believe
Speaker 1: has eleven dimensions. So that's eleven dimension. We'll the third,
Speaker 1: there's fourth, fifth, sixth, all the way up to eleven
Speaker 1: at least, or the universe he says, what collapse? So
Speaker 1: if you're a being in a higher dimension. You can
Speaker 1: see the past, president, and future all at once in
Speaker 1: the third. If you say that's an interesting place, I'd
Speaker 1: like to visit it. If you can actually create a
Speaker 1: phase shift in your atomic frequency to match the atomic
Speaker 1: frequency of this dimension, you can walk right in and
Speaker 1: then you can walk right back, and then you probably
Speaker 1: have something else that's outside of this entire universe that
Speaker 1: has the capability. Maybe it is the creators of the
Speaker 1: universe itself, which is why I wrote the book Fracle
Speaker 1: Holographic the Universe. Maybe there's a creat horse or creator
Speaker 1: outside of this entire universe that has a hand in
Speaker 1: creating this ancestor universe itself.
Speaker 2: Well, it also makes sense that if you scaled intelligent
Speaker 2: life up infinitely, you're going to reach a point where
Speaker 2: you have god like powers. This being or collection of
Speaker 2: beings as hive mind, whatever it is, it could essentially,
Speaker 2: if given a hundred million years, harness the very power
Speaker 2: of the universe itself, or maybe even create the universe.
Speaker 1: And created other universes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which is the ultimate mind blower. That intelligent
Speaker 2: life is the reason why this thing exists, then it
Speaker 2: creates this thing.
Speaker 1: We're creating universes right now as human beings on this planet.
Speaker 1: Fourteen college kids created a video game called No Man Sky.
Speaker 1: No mans Sky is on one DBD disc and it
Speaker 1: has eighty quadrillion planets and unlimited life forms and the
Speaker 1: game never ends.
Speaker 2: We've talked about that, right, Yeah, that one's a weird one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you put but you put AI in it. And
Speaker 1: what's going to happen? Right?
Speaker 2: Scale up to a quantum computer. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: we have a virtual reality headset.
Speaker 1: Boom. Yeah, the people in there, who are we? Where
Speaker 1: are we from? What is the big bang? When we
Speaker 1: turn to conso alone, that's the big bang for you? Yeah, sims.
Speaker 1: The sims are going to get AI now, they're going
Speaker 1: to be asking questions, right, They're going to be creating
Speaker 1: your own software within the software and trying to build
Speaker 1: their own copy of a universe. We're not even close
Speaker 1: to base reality. We're literally living in a stacked reality.
Speaker 1: We're just one real out of who knows googles of
Speaker 1: actual realities that exist.
Speaker 2: Do you think the simulation theory has weight?
Speaker 1: Oh? I believe so. I just I wrote a book
Speaker 1: about it. That book is about the fracle holographic universe,
Speaker 1: and I believe that we're living in a simulation. All
Speaker 1: these books.
Speaker 2: You got a stack of no written, rather poor.
Speaker 1: The one just came out today, the Fracle Holographic Universe.
Speaker 1: This is the Emerald Tablets, the Epic of Humanity, and
Speaker 1: my financial book Woke doesn't mean broke financial literacy book,
Speaker 1: not the political woke, either of the real woke.
Speaker 2: When did you start going down this road of exploring
Speaker 2: all these interesting subjects.
Speaker 1: Well, it was a long time ago, nineteen seventy seven
Speaker 1: in Miami, Florida. We moved from New York to Miami.
Speaker 1: Next city, Opa Loaca Airport. Living in the hood, I
Speaker 1: used to go out in the backyard. You know how
Speaker 1: it is back then, no cable TV, no cell phones,
Speaker 1: no tablets. You just go outside and play. So I'm
Speaker 1: in I'm outside in the backyard. Plane but I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the airplanes go over and this one day, this
Speaker 1: plane goes over, but it's not really a plane. It
Speaker 1: clears the horizon in seconds, not minutes, just go straight across.
Speaker 1: I know from as a little kid the planes take
Speaker 1: a long time to go from one point to the other.
Speaker 1: And it went straight across and it was more like
Speaker 1: not a full size, not a cigar, but not an egg,
Speaker 1: kind of in between the two glowing attack, almost like
Speaker 1: a tiktack glowing metal. Yes, And then it came back
Speaker 1: and it stopped right over me, completely silent about now
Speaker 1: I can estimate about two undred fifty meters and then
Speaker 1: it just went gone, and I ran in the house.
Speaker 1: When I told my mom, I told her, I can't
Speaker 1: believe what I just saw her And my mom said
Speaker 1: to me, Son, back in the day, there were advanced
Speaker 1: beings that came to this planet. This is nineteen seventy seven,
Speaker 1: moms or moms. Yeah, that's why I dedicated the book
Speaker 1: to her. And she said they used to live on
Speaker 1: tops of mountains like in Peru and match you Peachu,
Speaker 1: which is why one of the greatest places I ever went,
Speaker 1: I had to go there. And so I went to
Speaker 1: the library at Rainbow Park Elementary the next morning and
Speaker 1: I told the teacher I have to go to the
Speaker 1: library inside of the school Rainbow Park, and I said
Speaker 1: I need to get all the encyclopedias on space on aerospace,
Speaker 1: and she gave me the encyclopedias on aerospace, and that's
Speaker 1: when I started researching from that exact moment. Wow, and
Speaker 1: I haven't stopped since.
Speaker 2: So you were how old? Eight?
Speaker 1: Seven?
Speaker 2: Seven years old? Oh my god, you just got locked in.
Speaker 1: I got locked in. I started researching swept wing, delta
Speaker 1: wing ballistics, in intercontinental ballistics. I'm looking at submarines, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at hovercraft that existed way back then, flying this
Speaker 1: that we had created in the military way back then,
Speaker 1: you know, SR seventy one and all this stuff. And
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what the hell did I see?
Speaker 1: And I couldn't find it. But it took me down
Speaker 1: the path of technologies and advanced technologies and aerospace information,
Speaker 1: and I kind of became a quasi aerospace historian. And
Speaker 1: that led me in further on down the line to
Speaker 1: studying architecture and seeing a connection between the two.
Speaker 2: And you studied at both Harvard and MIT.
Speaker 1: Harvard was for ancient civilizations. I took a class and
Speaker 1: got a certificate in ancient civilizations, and Mit I took
Speaker 1: a class in applied neuroscience and got a certificate and
Speaker 1: applied neuroscience.
Speaker 2: And are you just doing this for your own edification,
Speaker 2: just because you're interested in it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, right, Now I'm gonna rolled again in Mit
Speaker 1: right now for a class in AI.
Speaker 2: And when you first got down this road, we're talking
Speaker 2: about a time where there's no Internet and there's no
Speaker 2: you're just like trying to make sense.
Speaker 1: Of some things, just trying to make sense man, and
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen anything since then?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yes, Actually Eddie Seti Ranch and two thousand and seventeen,
Speaker 1: I believe it was we were out there. I was
Speaker 1: out there to do speak at this ranch in Washington
Speaker 1: State and it's down from the basin of Mount Shasta
Speaker 1: and it's called the Ranch Seti. Oh yeah, E SETI
Speaker 1: E C E t I. It's like a private kingdom
Speaker 1: in America. Actually it's a private They've got registered as
Speaker 1: a small kingdom. They don't even have mail or anything there.
Speaker 1: It's a weird I had to stay in a yurt.
Speaker 1: It's really crazy out there. I spoke there for a
Speaker 1: whole week. I had to get used to it because
Speaker 1: nobody told me about this before I got there.
Speaker 2: You had to stay in a yurt for a week.
Speaker 1: Stay in a yurt for a week. Did they have
Speaker 1: running water at the community bathroom?
Speaker 2: Oh boy?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Enlightened contact with extraterrestrial intelligence. Oh boy, So they're just
Speaker 2: out there with no technology trying to talk to aliens.
Speaker 1: No, no, just out there every night sky watching basically.
Speaker 1: Really and the video that we rich crazy person's idea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the video that the video that we created that night
Speaker 1: watching those UFOs in the sky actually made it onto
Speaker 1: an episode that I'm in on Ancient Aliens.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that shows the best show to get high
Speaker 2: to action Bronson show where he would watch Ancient Aliens.
Speaker 1: It would just get stoned and watch Ancient Aliens.
Speaker 2: That show's crazy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so recorded some crazy footage in the skies there.
Speaker 1: What did you see? Well, they were giant discs flying around,
Speaker 1: some were changing colors. Video foot it's on it's on
Speaker 1: the but I sent it to Ancient Aliens. And you know,
Speaker 1: see if you can find that. James Gilliland, the guy
Speaker 1: who owns the ranch, licensed it, licensed and approved Ancient
Speaker 1: But if you go to he said he ranched YouTube videos,
Speaker 1: you could probably find one right on YouTube right now.
Speaker 1: That Wow, Yeah, it was incredible.
Speaker 2: So these folks are just out there trying to make contact.
Speaker 1: They're not trying to make contact, just watching, just watch.
Speaker 1: Just like amazement, there's no contact attempt there and why, yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go, that's it. I was there that night
Speaker 1: that video. I was standing there that night, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, there was a lot of activity that night.
Speaker 1: There was some crazy stuff going on.
Speaker 2: And what does this thing look like? To the naked eye,
Speaker 2: we're seeing very blurry, looks like zoomed in foltage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what year is this from? This is probably eighteen.
Speaker 2: Samsung Galaxy.
Speaker 1: We didn't have we didn't have No, we didn't have
Speaker 1: that one back then. But from the naked eye, it
Speaker 1: looks like these giant glowing balls moving around. Sometimes they
Speaker 1: expand and get they changed colors. Sometimes they descend right
Speaker 1: down by Mount Shasta and then they you could see
Speaker 1: their lighting in the tree line, and then they would
Speaker 1: go back up into space again. It was just crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: Have you seen that ball lightning that they get in
Speaker 2: Texas that comes out of the mountains?
Speaker 1: No, I saw one on a railroad track though. Ball lightning.
Speaker 2: There's this phenomenon that happens in this one particular area
Speaker 2: in Texas. What was it called Marfa? Well, was that
Speaker 2: what it's called, Jamie? I think it's Marfa. It's like
Speaker 2: this bizarre artist community town and they have like frequent
Speaker 2: instances of what they call the Marfa lights. Wow, and
Speaker 2: it's ball lightning that flies around out there. You don't
Speaker 2: think that could be that?
Speaker 1: No, because sometimes they would keep going until they just
Speaker 1: went out into space. Yeah, and there were so many.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they two would come and they would encircle each other,
Speaker 1: and then one would change the direction and drop down
Speaker 1: by the mountain, and one would just take off another direction.
Speaker 1: Some would go slow and then go and just go.
Speaker 2: How frequent does this take place?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was only there for those seven nights.
Speaker 1: I say the first night we were there with that
Speaker 1: was when we saw like the tan in the sky
Speaker 1: and moving around and doing things. The second night not
Speaker 1: too much. The third night was a little bit more,
Speaker 1: maybe four or five.
Speaker 2: So do you think that what it is is that
Speaker 2: this place has no light pollution and they depict a
Speaker 2: very specific area that they knew these things occur in.
Speaker 1: It's possible no light pollution. And plus also maybe that's
Speaker 1: an area where they have an opening or access or
Speaker 1: I don't know, who knows. I'm just now speculating now,
Speaker 1: But I don't know why that people came from all
Speaker 1: over the world to that location. The day the week
Speaker 1: I was there to just camp out and look up
Speaker 1: at this guy. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen man, we covered a lot. Yeah, three hours.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate your time and appreciate all the stuff
Speaker 2: you put out there. It's so fun, so fascinating, and
Speaker 2: it's so interesting. And thank you very much for being here.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I really had a good time.
Speaker 1: I appreciated, man, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Please tell everybody how to find your website, all your
Speaker 2: social media, all that stuffy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, first of all, I have my own streaming
Speaker 1: TV network called Forbidden Knowledge TV. It's an app on
Speaker 1: the App Store, so they can just go get the
Speaker 1: Forbidden Knowledge TV app with the number four Forbidden Knowledge,
Speaker 1: and they can get access to a lot of videos
Speaker 1: and stuff that you can't find on YouTube or anywhere else.
Speaker 1: You know, produce shows like the one you watched. My
Speaker 1: Inornaki series is on the on the Forbidden Knowledge TV app.
Speaker 1: And of course I have all my books on our website,
Speaker 1: Forbidden Knowledge TV on Amazon as well, and just everything
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Speaker 2: There it is.
Speaker 1: We'll do this again, man, I think we could talk
Speaker 1: for like fifty days. I know, I know for sure.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Billy, Appreciate you man.
Speaker 1: Bye, everybody,