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Speaker 1: Through money at Obo, never fear judgment, Day's purses never over.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's that's good satire.

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Speaker 3: Huh ah, little in the guy at the vita alright,

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he god, w y.

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Speaker 2: Don't you know that I'm love? Ah And they got

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choreographed dances to Joe that's my favorite part.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got dwarves dances.

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Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, you are cursed. At least the crowd's having

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a good time. Hunk guys, No, they're not.

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Speaker 1: You can.

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Speaker 2: There's three people clappings.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Someone that probably makes a quarter of

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a million dollars. I thought this, wrote it down and

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was like this fucking rules. Let's put it through AI

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and make it even more fucking awful. And I have

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a theory Oh yeah, that that that person doesn't exist.

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Speaker 2: Well it's either that or the only maybe t k

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O or just a bunch of a w fans Just.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Manchurian candidate houses, is that what you're saying.

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Oh my god, dude, I've never seen two people jump

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over a shark at the same exact time. It's crazy.

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Oh it's rough, man.

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Speaker 2: Look at that crowd. They're just they're just into it.

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Speaker 1: I I was playing like just random reactions to this

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off shorts and the chat before this came on, and

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it's like, I'd love to have a different angle to this.

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I'd love to have some sort of different perspective. But

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what do you what do you say about that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, really say that, That's what I say.

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Speaker 1: They were going to try to speed run embarrass the

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guy before Summer Slam. I remember you saying that that.

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Speaker 2: Dan Housen was wasn't ship And here we go like

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he's the real deal, like all the fucking all the

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fanfare saying that this guy is a real deal, Like no,

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he's Look, even if he was, even if ann Housen

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really could have been the guy to bring back a

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lot of people to wrestling. TKO and the current WWE

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administration are not the people to handle him.

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Speaker 1: No, not, no, no, they're not gonna let that happen.

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And that's the that's the meat of the matter, is

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that no matter how much something is gonna catch fire, now,

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the fucking corporate weirdo, fucking private equity firm that owns

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this shit is going to screw it up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of just as simple as that. And it

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feels so like it almost feels hackneyed having to say

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the same shit over and over again. But like, look

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at what they're doing, Like this is their idea of

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a segment where they said, listen, we we know the

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dan Housen thing is like permission to print money, but like,

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how can we just even stretch it thin to the

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point where people just go, Okay, this is a little

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this is a little fucking stupid.

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Speaker 2: There's just no self awareness. That's the thing is, like

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they don't understand what makes Danhausen popular. They think that, oh,

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it's because he's corny and he has a catchphrase. And

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it's like, I don't think it was that at all.

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I don't. I don't I think dan Housen I would

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say it was at least arguable in the beginning that

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he had a little bit of that Batista cool to him.

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Does anybody remember when Batista was cool? I mean, I

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know it's it's it's been a while, but there was

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a point in time when he was with Evolution and

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his character was really getting over with fans, not because

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he was falling in line with Triple H or wrestling

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with Rick Flair or Randy Orton or whatever. It was

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because that He was almost a nod to the fans

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watching this shit at home, for the people that were

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just sick of it, like to the point where he

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was just rolling his eyes during half of the promos,

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and people fucking felt that. They're like, yeah, this this sucks.

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At least the guy's work they think it sucks too,

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And Dan Housen was a little bit of that. He

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was a little bit of that meta energy that wrestling

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fans really do enjoy. They don't like it in big doses,

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they don't want to be told that all their shit

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is fake, but sometimes just making the reaction, making fun

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of how greedy the company is with the human monies.

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I think stuff like that is what people liked, because

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WWE will never come out and say we're really greedy

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and want all your money. But Dan Housen can, dan

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Housen can can be the little nod wink wink to

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how grossly fucking gross ww and TKO have become. And

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I think that was the fun of it. I think

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that was the fun of the character, and the fact

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that of course he brought in people like dom Or

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tried to bring in other people that was funny too,

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mean at that point, I mean, I've been punched out

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for a minute, but I at least understood it. You know,

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hometown team finally gets a big win, and it's because

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this silly character said something. And there's nobody in the

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world that believes that Dan Housen actually uncursed the Knicks

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or whatever. Like, you're pretty fucking far gone if you're

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one of those people. But it was an amusement. It

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was something to mock and make fun of, and WWE

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capitalized on it. They're like, hey, you want to talk

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about our guys and bring up our company, Sure, why not,

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Dan Housing go everywhere, go everywhere the Knicks are, have

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your little parade, do whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was a little bit of fanfare. It was a

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little bit of a tourist trap, but a WWE tourist trap.

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And now, like you said, they've both jumped the shark,

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Joe Hendry, they've been cooling off for a while, and

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now they're trying to reheat this fucking month old pizza

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for some fucking reason, and they figured, you know what,

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why not put them with Dan Housen. And and I

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think on paper, Joe that makes a lot of sense.

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But again, fans and crowds are not mathematical equations. They're

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not paper. And I understand the money is, but their

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love and adoration is not. And I think the things

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that people loved about Joe Hendry even are far in

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the past. I think the idea of this silly dude

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that came out there and smiled and sang songs and

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literally mocked his opponents in a very eighties innocent way

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was fun because it was making fun of the serious

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need we need more seth rollins, roman rage promos we don't.

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Sometimes a little bit of silliness is just is just

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enough of what we need. But now you're bringing them

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both out there. You're giving them choreographed dances, you got

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fucking you got DJ mixed beats in the fucking background,

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you got flying midgets and dancers with face masks, And

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it's like, what what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? This is not more as more? And also it's like,

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like you said, there, you're having silly team with silly

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to go after silly. Where where does the story deviate

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it as something that is supposed to be, Like where's

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the clash?

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Speaker 2: You know, like you've made the Judgment came out and

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beat their asses.

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Speaker 1: Like because they're big, serious guys.

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Speaker 2: I think the bad problem was that I was I

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swore was the crowd cheering. I was pretty sure the

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crowd was cheering for Judgment day.

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Speaker 1: They were saying like one more time and ship. But

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that's because they have no fuck there's no fucking heels

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and faces, it feels like to begin with. And then also,

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you just had people sit through this four minute long

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or five at least five minute long. I feel like

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cheesy ass thing that no one else is buying into,

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Like that's the type of corny that a heel is

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supposed to do. Because they're wasting your time, they're frustrating you,

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they're being in no Also, it's kind of just like

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arrogant and showy, like you're you dislike those things as

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a viewer, you know, oh, you have your own fucking

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you have the entire La Clippers dance crew coming out,

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and you have your own team of dwarves and shit.

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Like at some point it goes from being like, oh,

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it's funny because look at him. He's trying to make

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like a fucking robot time machine with a cardboard box

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and you're like, oh see how that's absurd, and then

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all of a sudden, magically, now he has a dance

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team of dwarves and cheerleaders and it's like, no, no, no, no,

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you guys once again have missed the point, right, you

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completely missed the point on why this even remotely work.

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And it's funny where you're like, it kind of reminds

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me of like the Batista wink wink, nudge nudge. I

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think it's almost closer to the fucking Ellsworth thing, where

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it's like, I'm he's not supposed to be there, You

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get it, Like, that's the funny thing is like to.

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Speaker 2: Some extent, maybe I mean be right on that one,

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but I always thought the Elswere thing was pity because

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when they stuck him out there against what was a

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bronze Strowman, and bronze Strowman practically just fisted him right

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there live on television.

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Speaker 1: People people felt bad for him. I felt bad for him.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, look at this, look at this little piece

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of shit.

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Speaker 1: There's a weird looking white trash juggalo guy.

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Speaker 2: He's about to go out here and get eaten alive,

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and he's got his two fists up. He's ready to

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fight no matter what. I'm like, look at the heart,

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look at the heart on this this shit smear, this

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fucking this waste of life.

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Speaker 1: Well well, what's even funnier in that situation, now that

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you think of it, is that he is in many

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respects elsewereth That is, he's a better fucking wrestler than

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Dan Housen. I mean, it's listen, all controversies aside. He

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wasn't that bad of a fucking and ring performer. It's

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just he was so ridiculous looking, of course, and it

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was such a flash in the pan. But remember his

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match against heal aj or his series of matches against

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heel aj styles. It was like, that was fucking good.

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You'd never get that out of out of Danhausen. You

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just you wouldn't. And that's where it's like, what can

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we do with a character and how can we make

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it work and how can we get some longevity out

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of it and how can we bring it back? And

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it's like, honest to god, I don't know where they

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continue to go with this other than eventually, like last

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night was the start of the snowball, right, Yes, there's

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no heels. Yes, they're seemingly barely a fucking face on

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this show to be found. So whatever reaction you get

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is what you get. But when Dan Housen is getting

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beat up and it's not boot, like, he's getting beat

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up by a professional boxer, right right right, and like

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the crowd should be going, oh my god, the professional

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box is beating up Dan Houses that's horrible, Like how

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fucked up is that for him to do that? And

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instead to people are like, well, no, you you're fucking

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annoying because you just did that stupid shit for five minutes. Now.

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I kind of want to see you just get the

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fuck kick Doddie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah. Oh it's because it's just playcating to

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the lowest commons nominator of fan. That's why there was

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only three people in the audience that was clapping along

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with the song. And Dan's right, nobody know who the boxer.

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Nobody knew who the boxer was. Yeah, no, for sure.

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I don't think it's a widely spread thing, but that's

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what WWE is doing now. They're trying to integrate as

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many entertainers and outside sports athletes into WWE. And I

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still think that the means to doing this is kind

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of what they've been doing for years. It's going to

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be your Dan Housen versus nameless boxer. It is going

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to be Joe Henry versus because it's not miss anymore, right,

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like missus kind of take him back seat. What are

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they gonna do try and hire Morrison again? I mean,

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why not they hired Baron Corbin. But it's kind of

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like it's one of those things that they always have

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to have this. I would not be surprised if there's

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some kind of interaction at SummerSlam with Dan Housen and

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some some media star, Like that's just it's we know

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what it is. We know that the only reason that

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Dan Housen exists now isn't even for your love. It's

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just for the attention of mainstream media. If Dan Housen,

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let me ask you this, Joe, if you had a

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Dan Housen and you somehow ran WWE, if you had

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a Dan Housen and you couldn't you couldn't sell merch,

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You just weren't allowed to sell merch with Dan Housen.

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What would be the next best thing that you do

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Speaker 1: But I wasn't allowed to sell merch.

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Speaker 2: You weren't allowed to sell any march.

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Speaker 1: O God set him on fire. I guess I don't know.

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Speaker 2: No exactly, that's my point. You would literally feed him

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to animals for the crowd's approval. That's exactly what you

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would do if you can't vision.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a shicko, but I wouldn't put him in

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tax and all that stuff. I'm just saying, like, yeah,

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I don't know what you do. What would you other

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than you're right physically feed him, have him just get

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the shit kicked out of him in matches. Honestly, I

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think you just described James Elsworth. That's basically what you described. Like,

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You're not gonna sell James Elsworth's T shirts, but you

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can have him get the fuck kicked out of him

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by everyone, right right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly what you do. What else can

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you do? So he has draw he has appeal. I mean, yeah,

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they're making money off the merch, but we know that

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that's that timeline is disappearing real quick.

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Speaker 1: So only because they're only going to make the shirts

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more AI, They're only going to make them more generic.

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They're only going to be more and more and more

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abundant and more expensive, and you know, similar to the

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you know the old saying and wrestling you only need

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to see fireworks once a year. For a lot of people,

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you only got buy one shirt. You don't got to

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go buy fifteen fucking shirts. That was like one of

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the anomalies of a guy like Sina where there was

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that fandom, and a lot of it was because it

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was kids and it was people who were younger where

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they're like, I want to see in a shirt in red, green, banana, yellow,

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and fucking lime. Like there were people that did that.

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Maybe they'll do that with Dan Hausen, but I don't know.

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It's like, I don't know if people are gonna want

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to make.

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Speaker 2: The people that I saw wearing all those different colored

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Johnsy and the shirts were also the guys that wore

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like the really expensive sneakers, Like they were the people

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that their outfit changed by the eye. So a guy

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like John Cena was right up their alley. It showed

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their pro wrestling love, their love of John Cena, and

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the fact that you've constantly had brand new shirts to

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change into something that people never saw before, Like I

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would say, is merchandise was probably one of his strongest

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assets more than everything else that he contributed for merch.

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Has anybody sold more merchant WWE than John Cena?

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Speaker 1: I mean I would say, yeah, I would say, but

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then you're spreading that out, even for Holkster over there,

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you're spreading them out over forty years, almost twice as long.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: The thing is with the Hulk Hogan, it was always

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the same three colors. Let's be honest. There's only so

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many ways you can wear well, no, I guess he

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had black and white for a while, but I mean,

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for the most part, there's only so many ways you

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can wear red, orange and yellow, you know.

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Speaker 1: Right to the point where if you see the yellow

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and red and any sort of a wrestling environment, you're like, oh,

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that's a Hulk, that's a whole Hogan. If it's not

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whole cog and it's a Hulk Hogan, dupe, somebody's doing

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his shit, you know what I mean. But that's what

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it is. It's like, you're right outside of having him

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just seal merch, the only other thing you have is

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him getting beat up. But the problem is is you

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have to find ways to continue to make them sympathetic.

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But they're not doing a great job of that because

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the whole goofy thing he does, or it's like he

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stole all their moneies, he stole their human monies or whatever,

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which by the way, like I think I heard Alvarez

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saying it, or they've I don't know one of the

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fucking guys where they were like, yeah, but you didn't

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even see him give them the money. So it's just

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like this thing that we heard about, and now it's

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just been going on for like a month and a half.

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It just won't it won't fucking end. And they're like, well, yeah, kind.

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Speaker 2: Laugh at the idea that Alvarez needs proof that there's

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money being transferred on television in order to believe this storyline,

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like Jesus christ Man serious, Well, you know what, they.

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Speaker 1: Could at least the funny thing is in this moment.

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For all of the stupid, needlessly long drawn out shit

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that they put on these shows, the fifteen minute long

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breaks it takes for them to get seth Rawlins and

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Roman reigns down to the ring with the De Giorno

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pizzas ad fucking running over it for five minutes, they

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could show thirty seconds of Dom walking up to him

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with a suitcase and going, hey, man, I want you

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you know I heard that you have the ability to

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get that curse off people. And he's like, oh, yes, yeah, right,

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if you're hard rights and then he hands the money

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and then he runs away with it or whatever. It

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disappears that that is a thirty second. So they could

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have spared out.

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Speaker 2: I guess it means that they would have to have

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somebody there to actually give them the thirty thousand dollars

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or whatever. They would actually need some kind of security.

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Speaker 1: Where would they find that money? They could maybe they

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could borrow some of it from Mark Shapiro here, they

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can borrow from one of these fucking leeches that are.

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Speaker 2: Just just have aerial. Just open up his wallet, you know,

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just here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how about just even the idea of him opening

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it and only seeing a certain amount of money, him

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being like, that's a down payment, I'll bring you the

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rest or something. Does that anything?

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Speaker 2: I think it's stupid. Even that shouldn't sell the angle.

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You'd need. You shouldn't need to see the money in

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order believe the storyline.

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Speaker 1: The storyline is wacky and ship from the well, here's

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the thing, the whole thing, the whole thing, sucks anyway.

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So at this point, it's like, do you want to

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see the trailer for the Son of Mask? You know

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what I mean? You know, like, what the fuck is?

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Speaker 2: The trailer's on fire and you're complaining about the toilet

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being clogged, Like just the fu man, it's.

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Speaker 1: The whole thing. The whole thing does completely suck, and

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that's and that's the problem. And like, to some extent,

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the only reason why I would defend them putting that

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and showing that for ten seconds is because if you're

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going to make this a month and a half long

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storyline where there's gonna be video packages, this, that and

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the other thing, that you want to have this stuff,

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It's like you do kind of need that, you know,

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if this was a throwaway one, because that's what you saved.

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Speaker 2: That's what you say for important characters, that's what you

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say for people with actual storylines. Dan Housen is is

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tissue paper. You you wipe him, and you're done with him,

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and that's all he is. Like, as soon as they're

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done using him for all of his human monies, dan

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Housen's going to be hitting the ship bit. He's going

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to be debuting in TNA.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I'm sorry, yes, So so nine oh five

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just drew that up here. I want to ask quick though,

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Oh was was that exclusive to the website though? Or

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do they put that on the show show? That's what

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I wanted to do because I'm just looking wrong. Was

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it on wrong? Okay? So I'm wrong, that's fine, But

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like seeing that at first, I was like, Okay. When

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it's as exclusive, I'm like, okay, or did you just

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is this one of those aw type things where you're like, well,

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I don't know what you're talking about. We put it

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on the fucking YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, oh Joe, it doesn't fucking matter if

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they showed the money or not. That's that's kind of

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the point, right, Like this is the culmination, is them

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going out to the ring with Joe Hendry and having

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a sing off competition with the crowd and midgets and

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dancers and nobody gave us shit, and they introduced random

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people to beat up fucking Danhausen so that they can

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have some kind of exchange in the future. Like it's

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just it's just everything I expected it to be, and

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it's just going down a little faster than I expected.

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I thought he would make it till the least WrestleMania.

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I thought he would get a full cycle. I'm like, Okay,

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this guy will finally do it, and by next WrestleMania. Uh,

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when he comes out there, it'll be It's it's already

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starting at Summer Slam. It already feels like it's gonna

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be this weekend. It's going to be people booing Dan Housen.

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Speaker 1: And what sucks is yuh all right for him and

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what he does in the way that he presents himself

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and what the character is he's got to be looking

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at saying I can't say no to anything because at

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this point they're just printing money and handing it to me.

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Like I'm just like, I'm not even bothering opening up

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my fucking mailbox because you know what I mean like that,

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I'll just wait. I'll just start pulling checks out when

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they start fucking piling it up, like oh yeah, he's

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probably like, whatever you motherfuckers want me to do, I'll

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just go do.

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Speaker 2: Did you see their faces?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: No, seriously, did you see their faces? When Joe Hendry

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and Dan Houses stepped up, they both looked around like

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Joe hen He started and you could see that he

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was checking over his shoulder looking for anyone that was

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into this. Just can I please find someone that wants

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me to be here? And Dan Housen is a professional,

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I will say total professional. What did he do? He

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went louder, He got louder. If you're not gonna cheer

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for me, I'm gonna scream it from the top of

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my fucking lungs like I have nothing but respect for that.

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And you're right, that's totally a look. I'm going to

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catch the check, but then I'm gonna do my damn

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this in order to get this crowd into it. Joe

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Joe Henry looked like, uh, like there was a bus

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coming or something. But Dan yeah.

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Speaker 1: Dan Housen's like, if I'm drowning, you're getting dragged down

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with me housing that's his fucking place with this. No,

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but that's it. It's like there's this part of you

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that you go to the the idea of where you

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just want to be like, man, just say no, But

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then you realize he really can't because he's not to

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be there. He's not supposed to be getting handed fucking

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checks for six figures. That's not where this dude that

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was doing like, let's call it what it was. It

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was like a comic con fucking meme act. When he

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showed up. My immediate instinct, obviously, because people know they're like, oh,

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you're just negative or whatever. I'm like, this guy's a

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dead meme. That's what I assumed he was. I was like,

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this thing already blew out his asshole three years ago.

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Why are they going through the trouble of doing this.

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So I understand once again why he would look at

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them and say, hey, listen, anything you're gonna give me,

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I'm just gonna go out there and fucking tap dance

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because I want to be able to retire and send

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my kid to fucking private school. So I'm good with that,

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you know, Like, whatever it's gonna be, I'm great. Man, Like,

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if that's if that's what you need me to go

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out there to do, I'll go sell the fucking you know,

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fruit punch, housen, whatever whatever needs to be done.

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Speaker 2: So we talk about anything else that happened un raw,

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or we just do an hour and a half of

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because I feel like you can still dissect this for

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another hour and a half. It's just so miserable and

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it shows such a lack of depth as far as

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the characters go. It shows a lack of ingenuity on

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the part of the company for these these guys who

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are literally printing money for them. Like, I don't know

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what you do at this point. But yeah, the.

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Speaker 1: Weirdness, Yeah, it's just a weird show. But like I know,

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like you said, we could talk about that forever. But

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the honest to god, the matches are with the exception

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of soul Ruka, which thank god they took the belt

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off her, get her off television immediately, please uh, with

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the exception of the matches being mostly fine. Aside from that,

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like the character work or the lack thereof, is the

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most interesting thing of the show.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know about that. That opening with Rock

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Lesnar and Oba Femi was painful.

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Speaker 1: Fuck was rotten.

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Speaker 2: It was painful. I would argue that that was the

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second worst thing on the show. And I know we

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haven't even got another Roman Reigns and Seth Robins thing

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that whole setup. I'm look, I know oba Femi is

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supposed to be the badass, but I hate the fact

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that they they bring him down. Oba Femi had a

468
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,279
class about him. There was a class to him. Where

469
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,759
when he got into the ring, that's where the savage

470
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:27,880
beatings began. But they've got him at the point where

471
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,759
he's threatening to kill motherfuckers. Now they close the door

472
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:35,079
on a cage and he's like shaking the cage and

473
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,400
freaking the fuck out. Now I'm gonna kill you. And

474
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,680
it's like, this is not I don't I don't want

475
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,000
to cheer for this guy. Fuck this.

476
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: No, you're making them look you're making them look dumb,

477
00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:47,279
and you're making them look a rational by the.

478
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 2: Way, idiot. And I mean, and and let's put on

479
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,119
top of it the fact that Paul Hayman couldn't even

480
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,160
talk for the first two minutes because of this shitty

481
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,359
microphone that he had.

482
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know they're just running at a VFW

483
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,319
all there, I get. I mean, that's what happens. You

484
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:03,720
bring a shitty sound system to what is it the

485
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,000
Clippers stadium or something. Yeah, fucking give me a break.

486
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:13,039
Uh No, it's ridiculous looking at it. For first of all,

487
00:27:13,079 --> 00:27:16,680
you start this is what you start with, guys. Is

488
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,880
there Did I miss the part where there's a weight

489
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:25,759
limit for Helen the cell? Is there way ends for Helen?

490
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:29,240
A cell? Like, I mean, I know it sounds like

491
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,799
I'm really picking knits here, but like, why are we

492
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,599
doing a way in for Helen a cell.

493
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 2: Paul Hayman tried to close that gap in the middle

494
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,400
of his microphone dropping out when he was bringing up

495
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:44,319
brock Lesters UFC accolades. That's what they're trying to do.

496
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:48,039
It was very it was very lights, very last minutes.

497
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:53,000
And look, normally, if there was weigh ends for WWE,

498
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,839
because they tried this before in a work to around Rustlemania,

499
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,480
and I think even me and you back during the

500
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:02,839
days when Wresselemania was a little bit better appreciated it

501
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,599
thought it was an interesting addition.

502
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, when it was a big show versus like Aki Bono,

503
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,319
Like it's like, yeah, that's no.

504
00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: No, I didn't even mean that far back. I mean

505
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,319
as far back as just like last year, Like there

506
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,960
was a way that they handled it that that looked good.

507
00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:21,119
But this, this was cornball. This was cornball shit. First off,

508
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,640
those weigh ins again, they happened during like the the

509
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:28,440
I don't know, like the tour segments that WWE did

510
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,599
before WrestleMania. You know, they start the pre show in

511
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:35,519
WrestleMania in May of the last year or so. But

512
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:39,279
I mean, it's one of those things. And I think

513
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,359
the way that they set this up though, with the

514
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,559
SummerSlam thing, it's just it was hokey. It was just

515
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,559
such a bit from the get go. You got Adam

516
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:49,559
out there in the ring already with a bunch of

517
00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:52,960
security guards for no fucking reason, you know, because oh,

518
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:55,039
you're going to kill each other. Let them they're in

519
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:58,680
a fucking cage. Where are they gonna go. Where are

520
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,920
they gonna go, Adam? Not even go out in the

521
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,960
fucking audience and kill the audience. I thought the reason

522
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:08,000
that they were always so concerned about two fighters beating

523
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:10,119
the shit out of each other was because of the

524
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,680
damage that they would do to like random people, staff members,

525
00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:18,519
fucking employees, citizens like. That's what I always thought. The

526
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:21,559
reason was not because two people that hate each other

527
00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:23,400
are going to beat the shit out of each other.

528
00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:25,839
Isn't that what everybody's paying for?

529
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:33,119
Speaker 1: Every fake boxing face off ends with the coaches between them,

530
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:36,240
you know what I mean, every single one of them,

531
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,920
is that it's the team. It's their team, you know,

532
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,960
whoever it might be there, they're in the mix. And

533
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,400
they're shoving and they're pushing or whatever the fuck it is.

534
00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:48,799
But this is just once again hilarious. It's like fucking

535
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,680
Oba acab just him beating up seven cops at a time.

536
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,559
Speaker 2: I guess for no reason, it was just angry. I

537
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,160
fucking I'm seriously really fucking reeling bad anything nice I've

538
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,720
ever said about Obiam. I'm really hating this character. And

539
00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:07,519
brock Lesnar is coming off as such a fucking troll

540
00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:11,039
that he's almost a babyface in this one. He's calm,

541
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:16,319
he's cool, he's collected, he's controlling this situation. Oba can't

542
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,119
seem to outsmart fucking brock Lesnar, even.

543
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:21,839
Speaker 1: They're outsmarting him over and over over.

544
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: And over again. I mean, brock Lesner looks like the

545
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,839
baby face in every situation here, and I'm supposed to

546
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:30,039
boom brock Lesner. Why is that exactly?

547
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: Hey? Can somebody also tell me how you have eight

548
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:38,880
adult men in a cage? I mean, if we're including

549
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,759
like the cops and then obviously Triple H and Adam Pierce,

550
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,599
who you'd think that they would be annoyed by this?

551
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:47,960
Why are all of them okay with getting locked in

552
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,440
a cage by Paul Hayman. They're all just okay with that,

553
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:54,319
and they have microphones. I'm pretty sure, by the way, too, Like,

554
00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:57,079
don't you think triple H not that I want Triplation

555
00:30:57,279 --> 00:30:59,240
have more of a fucking role on any show. But

556
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:01,359
he kind of runs this is the thing. Don't you

557
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,319
think he would like grab the microphone and be like,

558
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,039
hey man, you need to open that door right now.

559
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:07,799
I don't know who you think you're messing with. I

560
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:10,160
get you think you're messing with Oba, but you just

561
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,839
can't come in here and lock the GM and the

562
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,680
clo of the company in a fucking gauge, because if

563
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:17,119
you'll like it.

564
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: I was a little disappointed with that because the entire

565
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,599
time that Brock got done locking him in the cage,

566
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,599
he had the key in his mouth, Joe, and I'm like,

567
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:29,519
just swallow the fucking thing. Just fucking swallow it. Swallow

568
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:30,519
the fucking key.

569
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:32,559
Speaker 1: You must get it.

570
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,039
Speaker 6: You have to get it out of my poop now, Oba,

571
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,759
you have to get it for my you have to

572
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:40,319
get it for my fiercers. And I'm messing a piece

573
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,480
of my call. And so that's gonna be a real

574
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,519
that's gonna be real stinky.

575
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: And he's just I guess that's just okay, though, Like

576
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:49,920
that was the weirdest thing to me. I'm going, you

577
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,720
know what if it was quite literally just Oba in

578
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,759
the cage saying Brock lessner, get your ass out here,

579
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,960
and I'm you know, this is the structure, this is

580
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,480
what it's gonna look like, and blah blah blah blah blah.

581
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:06,400
And then Brock comes out and he's like, yeah, it's on,

582
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,880
it's on, because then he's the heel, and then he

583
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,359
takes it away from the people by locking him in.

584
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,680
I think you do the real face to face at

585
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,240
the cage and they're just looking at each other and

586
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:20,079
he's like, you know, you think you're you're calling her,

587
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,160
you think you're a caged animal. Well I'm the beast

588
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,519
blah blah blah blah as opposed to him, like you said,

589
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:26,920
then just beating the shit out of nine people for

590
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:31,000
no reason, Like we're just like we're just supposed to

591
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:33,519
be reminded again that he's tough. It's like, okay, so

592
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,839
is this the new thing is once again no heels,

593
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,279
no baby faces, and then we just emasculate the baby

594
00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:43,400
face at every point we can an idiot.

595
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: I guess that's what we do, unless you're the baby

596
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,720
face and you happen to be South Rolands. Like it's

597
00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:55,000
oba Femi has gone from an interesting, domineering, intelligent fighter

598
00:32:55,839 --> 00:33:04,799
to this chaotic, silly, weak minded, easily fooled buffoon in

599
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:09,200
record time, like any of the allure that he had

600
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,160
four weeks ago is gone.

601
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:18,119
Speaker 1: Yep, they're there and they're doing this to help oo

602
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,200
Paul Hayman.

603
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:22,359
Speaker 2: Failure. And I don't know.

604
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:28,839
Speaker 1: Why, Joe, there's no there's no thought into the creative

605
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,160
process on the show at all. And this is where

606
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,839
you end up, like, you know, you have done a

607
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,839
terrible fucking job at writing and booking your show. When

608
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,759
Jay Usso was involved in the most coherent talking segment

609
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:51,759
of your show, when the guy who's like a marble

610
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,920
mouth fucking you know, maybe allegedly is that what I'm

611
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,400
supposed to say, alleged guy might have a little bit

612
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,079
of a problem with the bottle, When that's the guy

613
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:03,960
with the bottle.

614
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,079
Speaker 2: They're actually really good friends and just.

615
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: No, they got along swimming. I heard their vacationing together

616
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,760
in the vineyard. Uh No, but like that's that's when

617
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,760
you know, it's a serious fucking problem when everyone else

618
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,159
does such a shit job that a guy who six

619
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,599
months ago were like he is really known for being

620
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,639
one of the worst talkers in the entire fucking company,

621
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:32,719
when they put a microphone in front of him all

622
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,559
of a sudden, for whatever reason it might be, maybe

623
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:38,280
it's the midst of divorce, maybe it's the aforementioned fucking

624
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,239
whatever it might be, but he's involved in the most

625
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:50,639
coherent segment of the night. That's not good. That's an issue.

626
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:53,159
And by the way, that's like not a testament to him,

627
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,239
that's a huge testament to La Knight, And I have

628
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,960
to give a lot of credit, so let me tell you.

629
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:03,360
And he is hunching his way out of that fucking

630
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,639
grave they buried him.

631
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,639
Speaker 2: Yes, I think this is a short term thing. I'm

632
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:10,639
not ready to throw my stones back into his court yet.

633
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:14,960
Like he went out there and he trashed a lot

634
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,800
of things that the fans feel about the Ussos and

635
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,840
the blood line.

636
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,679
Speaker 1: But the crowd was also still a little confused because

637
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,639
he's like, oh, you're gonna eat and boris the death

638
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,360
and then you just see like a bunch of people

639
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,440
in the crowd to do the hands way because there's

640
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,360
no fucking heels or faces, you fucking cunts. They don't

641
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,119
know how to write the show out.

642
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: The problem is now you have the wrestler trying to

643
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,239
pull the seam punk shit in twenty twenty six. Look,

644
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,719
I it worked for Solo on Monday. It worked for

645
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,000
Solo on Monday. And there's been little little breadcrumbs that

646
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,760
he's thrown out like that before. But I'm telling you

647
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,599
now that it's become so front and center on WWE's

648
00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:59,480
alpha show, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets dumbed

649
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,599
down next Tuesday, next Tuesday.

650
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: Back or he eats the pin on the Saturday or Sunday.

651
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're just that's that's it. He's come on,

652
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,400
are you really gonna get that behind Solo now?

653
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:19,639
Speaker 1: Right? No, they're not gonna They're not gonna have him

654
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:23,519
do anything. But it's but it's tough to watch because

655
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,480
now WWE features some of these people so early and

656
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,360
just you know, way before they're ready to cook.

657
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I like knows his idea, Joe before we even

658
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,400
get there. He says he betrays l a night making

659
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,119
him and his statements look even more dumb.

660
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: Oh right, and then they're gonna drump what was it,

661
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:48,039
dump the porta potty of hot big beans on him? Yeah,

662
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,760
I know, take take that. L A.

663
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,159
Speaker 2: Knight?

664
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: How dare you? How dare you consistently deliver on the show,

665
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:02,880
be interesting and in the dating you must be punished

666
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,000
for this? Or are they gonna do the old SWERVERERONI

667
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:10,719
and have Royce Keys do it? Because remember him and

668
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:16,199
Solo now excuse me, him and Jacob apparently go back. Yeah,

669
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:19,079
they add him in as a henchman, and then they

670
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:22,639
go with the whole. They make him Sammy's ain without

671
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:25,000
the ability to talk, where they're like, yeah, but you're

672
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:27,639
not really part of the family, and they just reheat

673
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:28,800
that again. Is that what they do?

674
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: Roy's Keys is just happy to be their guy. I'm

675
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,800
just very happy to be here. Thank you WWE for

676
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,480
a great opportunity. I appreciate what you do for me.

677
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,840
Thank you. My family has said, I appreciate you. Thank you,

678
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:46,480
mister l. A.

679
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: Knight.

680
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,079
Speaker 2: I appreciate all.

681
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: Right, he's he's playing the tambourine. He's just in the

682
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,119
back like fuck, yeah man, this breat I'm playing woodstock, right,

683
00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:00,519
now banging the tambourine like he's just he having a

684
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,000
grand old time, to the point where they had him

685
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,639
come out for like the last guy is the big save,

686
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,119
the big save, And there was crickety crickets, and I

687
00:38:11,159 --> 00:38:13,599
was like, oh, they have better luck.

688
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: If they just gave him Papa shangos gimmick, right Halloween

689
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:19,880
coming around, Just give him a stick to shake and

690
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:20,960
a funny hat.

691
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: You know, well, I don't know what what is a

692
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,239
Royce key? Well?

693
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: What is he was? Keys? I mean you lose them

694
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,400
around the house, you know, sometimes they're in the couch.

695
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,039
Speaker 1: That's just well, you know what, how about this? Are

696
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,880
the kids even gonna know what keys are anymore? Soon?

697
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,880
We're already getting rid of them. I mean, I guess

698
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,760
we can't call him Royce keypad or fob Royce fob.

699
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,360
That's not very good. I don't want to be that.

700
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,440
That sounds painful, but right, yeah, I believe that it's

701
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,719
a degenerator. If does he neuro muscular problem Royce fob.

702
00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:06,679
Speaker 2: Danoul I don't pay a lot of money for that,

703
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,519
Dan says, yeah, he Royce is a big guy who

704
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:12,159
cries to Steph. That's what I want I want a

705
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:16,320
weekly segment of Royce Keys showing up in Stephanie McMahon's

706
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:20,360
locker room, just crying, just weeping, just.

707
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: Trauma dumping on Stephanie Nick's my mom only cared about

708
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:33,000
my brother. Man only cared about him. Man, I liked JA,

709
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:40,960
So why did you say that about me? Yeah? Right, man?

710
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:44,719
I thought we was friends. And it's like, Wow, something fresh.

711
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,079
I thought we were friends. My favorite thing on the

712
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:51,000
wrestling show. I thought we were friends. Don't show us

713
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:54,280
the relationship, don't take time to build it. Just tell

714
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,000
us there was a friendship there. We'll just believe it.

715
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: Didn't you feel it was really weird that Solo opened

716
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,480
up that second mint though, well he didn't open it,

717
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:02,840
but he was the first one to come out there

718
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,199
and respond about that segment. And he starts glazing up

719
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,679
l a night and I'm like, didn't you two used

720
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,400
to hate the ship out of each other.

721
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,039
Speaker 1: Well they've made steps to repair that relationship, at least

722
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,639
the least save on that. Yeah, he's come out and

723
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,280
saved his ass a bunch of times.

724
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: That exclusive.

725
00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:30,119
Speaker 1: No, I believe it's on that Sea show SmackDown. That's

726
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:31,679
a show.

727
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: Just trailing main events.

728
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: All right, it's narrowly beating up. Well it technically is

729
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,880
the Sea show next to the fucking the reality show

730
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,440
on Netflix there. Oh yeah, I mean that's the most

731
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:46,719
important show that they.

732
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:48,599
Speaker 2: Have, apparently unburdened.

733
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, unwatchable. I think that's what's when the

734
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,960
best story you can tell on the show is how

735
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,800
sad it is for Seampunk to lose his dog. You've

736
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,880
really made a terrible fucking show too, by the way, Like.

737
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: I didn't get an che to watch that yet, though

738
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,079
we were talking about the Stephanie thing, Stephanie and uh

739
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,519
seaham punk. I watched some of that and that was

740
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:15,079
a little painful, But I have not sat down to

741
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:19,000
watch Michael Cole and Stephanie. I have a feeling there's

742
00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:21,760
gonna be some there's gonna be a lot of coded

743
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,000
language in that one, right, right, and.

744
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,039
Speaker 1: How they've both never done anything wrong in their lives

745
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:30,079
and it's everybody else, That's what I can imagine.

746
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,519
Speaker 2: I'm thinking there's gonna be a lot of coding in

747
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:34,840
that one. So even where the co host is like

748
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,079
what huh and they're just like, don't worry about it.

749
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: I can't wait for Michael Cole. You know what, I

750
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:47,280
what do you think Michael Cole is gonna do when

751
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,039
he retires? I think he's gonna be fucking Maybe then

752
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:53,800
will finally get a good version of him. That could

753
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,400
be a possibility be a guy.

754
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: Depends on how much he's in bed with McMahon still, Like,

755
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:04,360
let's that's not even kid. I'm sure Stephanie and Michael

756
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,880
both buried some of them bodies together.

757
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,119
Speaker 1: That's that has got to be the only reason, because

758
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:16,079
you know, by TKO standards, they are overpaying him. Oh yeah,

759
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:19,960
you know they are in their minds they want a

760
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:26,000
dirt cheap, twenty something year old fucking girl that they

761
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,599
can have on FaceTime that you know. Look, well that's

762
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:30,840
why they brought in what's your name? Kathy Kelly and

763
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,239
the fucking YSD girl because they were like, look, they're

764
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,159
just you know, pretty enough girls that can hold the

765
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:39,800
microphone that we could pay whatever the fuck one hundred

766
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,920
and twenty grand a year.

767
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: Probably girls with microphones. That's what the fuck they are.

768
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,119
You know, it's just.

769
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: Essentially, yeah, they have three more facial expressions, that's what

770
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,360
That's what they have. And you know that Michael Cole's

771
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,519
making ten times with them. Oh, I got what.

772
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: Do you think my Michael Cole's probably making ten times

773
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,719
more than most of the locker room.

774
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:04,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, he's probab Michael Cole. I would not

775
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,840
be shocked, like is.

776
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: Making seven figures.

777
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I believe it. I believe it. Would

778
00:43:11,519 --> 00:43:12,880
you be surprised if Michael Cole was.

779
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: But I think the only reason he's making those seven

780
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,199
figures is, like I was saying, before him and Stephanie

781
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,280
buried some of those bodies together.

782
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: Vince signed that contract, uh huh, might be it. And

783
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,360
Vince might have signed that contract with him saying, this

784
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,400
will probably be your last one, Michael, because when you're done,

785
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:33,599
you'll be like sixty five years old and you don't

786
00:43:33,639 --> 00:43:36,559
want to do this anymore. Right that was that might

787
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:38,960
have been the thought process, and that very well might

788
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,119
still be it. But you also like all to talk

789
00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:46,079
about them restructuring all the different people. Would you be

790
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,039
terribly surprised to find out that Michael Cole was asked

791
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:53,000
to take a bay up? I wouldn't be shocked in

792
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:53,760
the slightest way.

793
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: I think they would ask him and he'd say no,

794
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:59,800
and they'd be like, oh, okay, that's fine, just you know, yeah.

795
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: They might they might ask him, Yeah right, they might

796
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,760
ask him. But also know that he's someone that, like,

797
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,159
if he got out of the company and wanted to

798
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:15,440
do some damage, he'd do a much more damage than

799
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,760
a lot of the other people, not just because like

800
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,719
what you said, but like where the bodies are very

801
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,199
but he's quite literally to a generation and a half

802
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,800
of wrestling fans, the actual voice of the shop.

803
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:29,119
Speaker 2: You know, I say that, but I think that even

804
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,280
WWF proved or sorry, w W proved that when they

805
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,000
got rid of Jim Ross.

806
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah I saw Jim Ross was also so old at

807
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,519
that point that I think a lot of fans are

808
00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:40,440
more forgiving of it.

809
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:45,639
Speaker 2: What about Joey Styles? I think ww has proven multiple

810
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:48,239
times over the years, no matter how much love people

811
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:53,239
have for announcers, they're all caught shit Joe Bobby Heenan.

812
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:57,960
They got rid of Bobby fucking Heenan, and people didn't

813
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,039
tune over to WCW for him.

814
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: Well, those were also very different times. You got to

815
00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:05,199
remember that, I.

816
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:08,599
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. Like, as an example, Cole is

817
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:10,119
not better than Bobby Heenan.

818
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,599
Speaker 1: No, it's not better than a right, butche you kidding me?

819
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,199
Right now, He's not better than Bobby heen I get

820
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,920
a wheezy board and choose Bobby Heenan over fucking Michael

821
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,239
Cole a roy right. But that's but that's it is, like,

822
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,639
it's not necessarily a matter of who's better or who's

823
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,559
best in the grand scheme of things. It's just exposure.

824
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,920
Are the what are the audience seeing, what are they hearing?

825
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,960
Who is the person that they associate with? Xyz. They

826
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,880
associate Michael Cole with Monday Night Rod WWE because he's

827
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,159
fucking ben that guy for twenty years now, which is

828
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:52,039
insane because twenty five, twenty plus years ago until this day,

829
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:53,960
the people that have been watching it this whole time

830
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:58,400
have thought of him like a fucking goober. The weirdest

831
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,280
thing in the world was when Pat Man used to

832
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,840
get on and go fuck yeah, everyone loved Michael Cole, right,

833
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,360
and the people in the crowd were like, woo, and

834
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,440
am I who are those fucking people? Those gotta be

835
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:13,960
the Disney Adult wrestling fans that are cheering for a

836
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:19,320
Michael Cole Yeah, because everybody that would steal like once again,

837
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,639
these the the people that they chased off from paying

838
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,679
to go to these buildings, would never have had in

839
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,719
a million years had somebody sit there and go, hey, guys,

840
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,800
the legend Michael Cole, They would have laughed and shit themselves. Right,

841
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,519
are you kidding me? We fucking hate this guy. I

842
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:41,559
mean because skunked all the way through the guys. The

843
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:45,880
guys claimed the fame was being the Rock's coat rack. Yeah,

844
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,760
I mean that's what he did. That's where he started from.

845
00:46:50,039 --> 00:46:52,599
The Rock would put fucking clothes on him because he

846
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:56,719
didn't want to see his ugly face. They switched it

847
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,480
over to Jonathan Coachman just because they wanted You feigned

848
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:02,639
that Michael Cole wasn't a complete joke.

849
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was the role. How about all

850
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,760
the gimmicks that they gave Cole over the years, the

851
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,519
uh what was it? The raw computer announcer he had

852
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:14,400
to go up there with a laptop and talk to

853
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,840
an imaginary computer that he.

854
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: Was a deeal.

855
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,679
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the orange fucking warning Owen Hart singlet Yeah,

856
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,920
that was that was fantastic.

857
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:30,159
Speaker 1: Those were dark days, man. I was hoping, well that

858
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,519
was happening, that that was his exit and they're like, nah,

859
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,159
another fifteen years. I think, let's keep it going, Let's

860
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,960
keep going with this. It's like, what the fuck? Why

861
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,000
can't some of these people ever go? They just won't

862
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:48,440
go away. Some of them they just will keep forever,

863
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,400
and some of them they will just throw out of

864
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:51,880
a window.

865
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: Now, then, did Cole take over the Kevin Dunn spot,

866
00:47:56,519 --> 00:47:59,000
because I remember when we were talking about that, and

867
00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:02,000
Kevin Dunn was getting the fuck out because Vince mcfahm's gone,

868
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:05,719
and obviously Kevin Dunn had a shit ton of power

869
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,599
in the company, even more than what we knew at

870
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:10,519
the time. And then they started consolidating all those different

871
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:12,639
departments in the one and then he started to run

872
00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:17,360
even more control over it. Did Cole essentially get grandfathered

873
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:18,599
Kevin Dunn's stuff?

874
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: I think that that might play a role in it,

875
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,079
But I also just think to the effect of it

876
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,199
always goes back.

877
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,599
Speaker 2: I was in charge of way more than production at

878
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:33,000
the end there goof like they were, Yeah, they were consolidated,

879
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:36,519
they were closing down like the WWE studios and shit

880
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:40,480
like that, and all those people got absorbed by the

881
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:41,679
arms of Kevin Dunn.

882
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were getting rid of whole department. Son could

883
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,519
be the guy. Yeah, maybe that's it. Maybe it's just

884
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:54,440
a matter of like eventually people just start to believe

885
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:57,760
their own bullshit and their own war right where it's

886
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:03,360
like the bellies are a game changing professional wrestlers and

887
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,679
the women's of it, and like anyone that was paying

888
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:08,119
attention knows that's the stupidest shit they've ever heard in

889
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:11,320
their life. But if you say it long enough, with

890
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,000
enough fucking bass in your voice, apparently people will start

891
00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:18,000
to actually believe it and think it's true. So there's

892
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:20,880
a good chance that that's what it is with Michael Cole,

893
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,079
whether they're like, oh yeah, no Coals, Cole's fucking he

894
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:26,079
knows all of it. Like it's even funny when you

895
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,199
like Baily at one point she'd be like, oh my god,

896
00:49:29,199 --> 00:49:32,760
I've learned so much from Michael Cole, And I'm like,

897
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,440
what do you mean she has.

898
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,599
Speaker 2: A crush on Michael Cole. I think I don't know.

899
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:41,599
I think there's some kind of like budding friendship there.

900
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,639
Speaker 1: Natty issues thing. Maybe I don't know, I don't know, Like.

901
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: It went past just being you know, silly like ring stuff.

902
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,199
It got to the point where people were paying attention

903
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,400
to them because they were constantly doing shit against each other,

904
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,480
like it became a running gag even outside of the show, right,

905
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:01,719
So it's kind of like, well, what's going on there

906
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,480
is this like uh Britt Baker Tony Schiavanni situation.

907
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: No, maybe it doesn't not. I don't want to say

908
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,320
daddy issue because then that just makes it almost sexual.

909
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,960
But I don't think. I highly doubt that's the case.

910
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,719
I don't think Bailey is a fucking Michael Cole. Come on,

911
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,960
I just no, no, no, I'm saying like for my

912
00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:28,639
own I don't want people to misconstrue what I'm saying,

913
00:50:28,679 --> 00:50:31,239
like it's like, oh, it's a daddy. Yeah, Bailey is

914
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,039
just dogging it out with Michael. Please, that's about. That's silly.

915
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,079
Speaker 2: Eight inches sinking it into that fucking.

916
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,199
Speaker 1: Bad bunny just playing in the background in sense burning. Yeah,

917
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,360
I don't think that's happening.

918
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,599
Speaker 2: I go Cole, going deeper him.

919
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: Sugar Wolls, she's sitting She's sitting there and she's like,

920
00:50:57,559 --> 00:50:59,400
you know what, I I don't want to fuck any

921
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,719
of these guys at the CrossFit Ship, but I really

922
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:07,360
want sixty something year old yeah, Michael married Michael Gold.

923
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: Who do you think she takes him with uh? With her?

924
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: Aew, that would be fucking hilarious. That'd be great, that

925
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:19,800
would be and And honestly, I found it really funny

926
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,480
with that whole you know, big PAMs going to aw

927
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,800
thing where there were people that were going, why would

928
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,440
you ever want her to go there? And blah blah

929
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,239
blah blah bah. I'm like, because, well, first and foremost,

930
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:35,119
TKO is such a fucking joke that it's not even like, well, Brilly,

931
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:38,360
you're really missing the boat. It's like she's made probably

932
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,440
a couple million dollars at least in her career, if

933
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,559
not more. So, it's not like a money hurt thing.

934
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,719
They clearly don't want to feature her. They see her

935
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,880
as like old news passe. They're just using her in

936
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,039
these random dumb spots, And she wants to go and

937
00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:59,079
get paid way more money, which I'm sure Tony Kahn

938
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:02,280
will just write her a blank track because she's Mercedes friend.

939
00:52:03,039 --> 00:52:05,360
If she wants to go do that and wrestle a

940
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,840
couple of their girls, what am I gonna say? You know, like,

941
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,320
that's not even jumping ship. That's quite literally just taking

942
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,920
a better paying gig for less hours for a better boss.

943
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,039
Like I'm not saying Tony Kahn is a better boss

944
00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:24,119
in the sense that he's going to write you better book,

945
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:26,559
you better put you in front of more people, but

946
00:52:26,639 --> 00:52:28,559
he's going to beat the shit out of you less,

947
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:32,320
I guess to some extent. And you're also not going

948
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,280
to live in constant fear of getting fucking asked to

949
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,719
take a fifty percent pay cut. And also in this

950
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:45,960
this seems this seems even crazier, right, And you're not

951
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:52,840
contributing to some weird, fucking wwe TKO culture where they're

952
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,519
going to constantly be fucking predatory and trying to scrape

953
00:52:56,639 --> 00:53:01,679
nickels off you, Which that's an that's bad enough. We've

954
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,280
all worked, like we've all worked in the place where,

955
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,320
you know whatever, it might have been a retail job

956
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:10,159
or a restaurant or something where you were they bring

957
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:13,119
in the boss or some new guy and he's just like,

958
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,519
you're taking a piss. Make sure you clock out. What

959
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:18,400
are you doing over there? What are you doing over there?

960
00:53:18,639 --> 00:53:21,480
I'm putting a piece of gum in But sure there

961
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,960
was not on my time. You got time to chew gum,

962
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,000
you got time to do something for me. It's like

963
00:53:26,039 --> 00:53:30,239
that's how KO perceives themselves to be. And as you

964
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:35,440
get older that probably sucks even more so. Bailey going

965
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:40,760
to AW probably a good call for would you how

966
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,039
do you think? How do you perceive this? You know

967
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:43,679
what I'm saying.

968
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: I really don't care.

969
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: You're like whatever.

970
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,199
Speaker 2: Zero fuck's given. Bailey is just a shark a long

971
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,880
time ago. If she goes to AW, yeah, now you're right,

972
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,519
we'll get to see matches with her versus beck Law

973
00:53:56,679 --> 00:54:00,519
or her versus Willow. You know, like there's definitely a

974
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:04,079
a bunch of different women that she can have matches with. Uh,

975
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,880
it's not going to jump start her career like that

976
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:10,760
AW Sico narrative that you know she's gonna get rebored

977
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,800
and eight, No, she's not. She's gonna continue doing the

978
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,559
same stick for the for more money and less time.

979
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: Like you said, as far as she's gonna change her name,

980
00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:21,880
and that'll be that.

981
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:25,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's going to be Hayley, that's what she's going

982
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:28,840
to be instead of Bailey. And there's not going to

983
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,760
be any money made. There's not going to be new

984
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:35,320
fans turning into AW because new fans for the most part,

985
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,000
don't give a shit about the AW Women's division. Sure

986
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:42,039
they'll they'll tune over to see her and Sasha reunite.

987
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:44,800
Oh yeah, of course that'll be cute. So you get, like,

988
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,519
what a rating spike for a week or two. Thank

989
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:49,960
god you paid her seven figures there, Tony, good job.

990
00:54:51,559 --> 00:54:53,880
But I don't know, dude, like if she wants to go,

991
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,679
if she's going to go, and I know that that's

992
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,920
kind of like what they're pushing as far as what's

993
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,599
happening with her. Her contract runs out by the end

994
00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:04,079
of the year. But I saw a lot of fans going,

995
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:07,360
why wait, why wait, just cut her now. It's like

996
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,920
what four you know, like just litteral fucking Yeah.

997
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: Honestly, either way, either way, it's clearly no effect on

998
00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:17,480
you care.

999
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,519
Speaker 2: About the wrestler. Let her sit in the next six

1000
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:24,880
months or whatever. Let her lick her fucking wounds until

1001
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,519
the contract runs out. When the contract runs out, she

1002
00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:31,280
goes over to AW fresh. Matter of fact, it's probably

1003
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,800
even better for AW if she does sit her ass

1004
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,320
out till December, because then by the time that Russell

1005
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,519
Mania rolls around, AW can start featuring fucking Bailey again.

1006
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: True, No, No, you're right, because then they got to

1007
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,039
spread out some of these people, and honestly, like the

1008
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:52,239
idea of a where it's like AW shouldn't take a

1009
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,880
bunch of these people and like they should really feature

1010
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,920
like guys. Daniel Garcia is still being shown on this

1011
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:05,320
show regularly, Wheeler Judah's getting shown regularly on the show.

1012
00:56:06,119 --> 00:56:09,320
They can do for a Bailey and a Shamus and

1013
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,000
a whomever to show up and add a little bit

1014
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,719
of seasoning to these shows, because it's like, oh fucks,

1015
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,440
Mike Pearly gonna come out and do a fucking Garate

1016
00:56:18,599 --> 00:56:23,000
kick again. It's like, give me a break, and I

1017
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:24,639
saw like a bunch of the shit from the paper.

1018
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,719
If anything, we're back to the point where WWE and

1019
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,679
AW are like what they were when they first started,

1020
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:35,519
where you just wanted AW to at least be more

1021
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,239
coherent and more reasonable, because it's like, you guys could

1022
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:45,239
really actually help yourselves in some capacity, But they're never

1023
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:45,920
going to.

1024
00:56:46,199 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 2: They're gonna just keep praying that Mexico figures it out.

1025
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,960
I'm ready to abandon both of them, anti Na and

1026
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:57,480
just can Mexico please come through?

1027
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: Please, missus like, I'm fine, only gonna use that duo lingo. App.

1028
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:08,559
I gotta fucking do something. I need the Undertaker to

1029
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:13,320
fucking shay. I need the Undertaker to book a reasonable

1030
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,119
show and another language for me to watch, because it's

1031
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,039
just gotten to that level of dead dog it is.

1032
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,199
Speaker 2: Oh, it's not really bad, dude, at this point, I'd

1033
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:25,440
just rather watch the fucking commercial leading. It's just these

1034
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,920
shows are not doing us any favors. Raw was fucking rancid.

1035
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:32,679
So here's the only other thing. Sault Ruca and kel

1036
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,920
Raquel got the ship kicked out of her for that

1037
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,559
title that she took off a Soul.

1038
00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:41,559
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Raquel just set of just whacking her at

1039
00:57:41,559 --> 00:57:43,480
one point, I'm like, good, well.

1040
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah she got she got knead in the nose. She

1041
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:50,679
got kicked in the nose. Like, if you didn't tell

1042
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:53,519
me that Soul was a professional wrestler, I would think

1043
00:57:53,559 --> 00:57:54,840
she was doing that sh it on purpose.

1044
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,559
Speaker 1: I know, I know, And is she.

1045
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,639
Speaker 2: Really that unsafe or or I mean that was two

1046
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,920
major targeted shots to the nose, Like that's not a

1047
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,639
receipt for something that seems like some old school shit, right.

1048
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,599
Speaker 1: Well, that's when Raquel started hitting her back of right, right, but.

1049
00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:22,679
Speaker 2: It's like once is an accident, two solid shots right

1050
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:23,920
in front of the camera.

1051
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: Like yeah, come on man, that's also nerves, Like that's

1052
00:58:29,519 --> 00:58:31,400
another part of it too, where it's like, all right,

1053
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,000
you know, I'm not one to hold my tongue either way.

1054
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,840
And uh, this is definitely a situation where I'm kind

1055
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:44,840
of the soul ruka thing. It's it's done, it's done.

1056
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:50,000
Take it off television, send her back Annix to retool her,

1057
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:55,360
because this is fucking bad. She has been genuinely bad

1058
00:58:56,079 --> 00:59:00,159
since she debuted on the main roster. Not like oh

1059
00:59:00,199 --> 00:59:02,719
she's learning, or oh she's got to figure it out,

1060
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,280
or oh this is bringing around. She has been truly

1061
00:59:06,639 --> 00:59:11,119
fucking rotten since she came up from Orlando, you know, like,

1062
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,239
and well that's happening. I'm thinking to myself once again,

1063
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,800
doing I guess the smart Internet whatever you want to

1064
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,480
call it. Guy, the voice in my head though, where

1065
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,159
I go, well, do you have people that are ready?

1066
00:59:22,679 --> 00:59:26,320
It's like Creative has exactly you fucking dick on a

1067
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,360
plate for Jordan Grace. Nothing for Jordan Grace at all.

1068
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,280
I'm not a result. I'm not by the way both

1069
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,559
you and I were not like Jordan Grace super fans.

1070
00:59:38,199 --> 00:59:41,880
But you're telling me that she couldn't go on television

1071
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,719
and give you something more fucking palatable and watchable.

1072
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: They don't see anything positive with her. That's the problem.

1073
00:59:49,679 --> 00:59:52,199
WWE has had so many talented women that they just

1074
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,880
let slip through their fingers. I mean, they could have

1075
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:59,119
had the career of Mercedes Martinez running around in WWE

1076
00:59:59,239 --> 00:59:59,519
right now.

1077
00:59:59,519 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: You could have give her three years at least, given

1078
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,039
her at least two or three years like something. It's

1079
01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:10,639
it's very, very weird where we're at this point where

1080
01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:14,760
it used to just always be WWE is gonna push

1081
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,719
the big fat parroits, like that was the thing we

1082
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,159
just knew. Like it was like, oh, why isn't this

1083
01:00:21,199 --> 01:00:26,920
one likes better looking big fat parents, even Marie Times right, Like,

1084
01:00:28,159 --> 01:00:31,119
oh why is even Mariga featured on TV instead of

1085
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:35,079
dot Mercedes Martinez. Oh, big fat parro tits and plastic face,

1086
01:00:35,199 --> 01:00:39,360
and that's what they want right now. They're all attractive,

1087
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,920
and so you just hit this wall. You're like, so

1088
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,320
we're just picking people that don't know what they're doing

1089
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,400
and aren't ready for no reason. Then just for no reason.

1090
01:00:51,079 --> 01:00:53,760
It's not like one is so much? Do you see

1091
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,199
what I'm saying? Like, it's like not, It's not like

1092
01:00:56,239 --> 01:00:59,159
you're going in and you're seeing somebody. You're going listen,

1093
01:00:59,199 --> 01:01:02,400
we're picking up people for the modern modeling catalogs and

1094
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,599
this girl's a four and this one's a tag or

1095
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,159
you know, like we're not at that point. Hey, we

1096
01:01:08,239 --> 01:01:10,039
got to pick a guy for main event. One of

1097
01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:11,880
them looks like Mason Rook and the other one looks

1098
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,599
like Roman Reigns. We're dealing with the solid set of

1099
01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:18,880
like seven's to seven to tens. Dare I even say

1100
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,719
eight to tens at almost all points? And then you're

1101
01:01:21,719 --> 01:01:23,599
just like, yeah, but what if we pick the ones

1102
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:26,320
that don't know what they're doing? That just let's just

1103
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,559
roll with those ones that aren't any good.

1104
01:01:28,719 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's partly because of how they interact

1105
01:01:32,679 --> 01:01:34,840
in the back. I wonder maybe that's it.

1106
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a personality thing.

1107
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 2: Well that's what it is like at this point. It's

1108
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,800
not even you don't have to be good at your job,

1109
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,920
you just have to be good at your boss. And yeah, right,

1110
01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:47,159
it might be one of those things like we always

1111
01:01:47,239 --> 01:01:49,559
joke about Jade Cargo, How the fuck is she still

1112
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:52,880
out there? She might be the most lovable person in

1113
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:53,320
the back.

1114
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: She might They must her Naya, You're right, some of

1115
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:58,079
these mighty.

1116
01:01:58,039 --> 01:02:03,039
Speaker 2: Must glaze, these these corporate egos so well know how

1117
01:02:03,079 --> 01:02:06,559
to like really lift those guys up and make them

1118
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:08,800
feel like a million bucks that they wouldn't even think

1119
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:10,599
about letting them go.

1120
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: Michael Hayes, Oh god, can you imagine the fucking shit?

1121
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,559
Speaker 2: That's got to be easy, Michael Hayes has got to

1122
01:02:20,599 --> 01:02:24,159
be easy, ego. I'm talking about these corporate guys, the

1123
01:02:24,519 --> 01:02:27,159
shifty ones, the ones that know better, like you have

1124
01:02:27,199 --> 01:02:30,719
to be smart. Michael Hayes is like, you gotta you

1125
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,280
gotta really gorgeous suit there, Michael, Oh yeah, you like it?

1126
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,599
This seer sucker soon Well, I got all right, dude, It's.

1127
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,719
Speaker 1: Like all right. On a scale of one to twenty,

1128
01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:46,679
what level of fucking gross ass shit has Michael Hayes

1129
01:02:46,719 --> 01:02:50,800
said about Jade Cargole That wouldn't fly at twenty.

1130
01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: Twenty, twenty twenty, I'm gonna go twenty twenty.

1131
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,239
Speaker 1: How many times do you think he has you is

1132
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:04,519
the word chocolate in a positive way about Jane Cargo.

1133
01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 2: I'm serious about how many times you use it in

1134
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:08,440
the negative way.

1135
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:16,599
Speaker 1: Like, Oh, no, he's not gonna do that, man, She's

1136
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,719
he's getting forever push But you know you could just

1137
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:24,079
see him just like, oh, doesn't look like that my

1138
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,119
day or something like, you just know he's just being

1139
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:31,599
fucking vile. Of all the people you could just picture,

1140
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:32,960
didn't you get that?

1141
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 2: Wasn't it that female writer that sued w w E

1142
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:39,440
or whatever she was a she was a black girl

1143
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,519
and she's so w w E because it was just

1144
01:03:42,599 --> 01:03:46,639
so racist at the Creative talks and it was I

1145
01:03:46,639 --> 01:03:48,440
guess it was just Michael Hayes talking.

1146
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:56,159
Speaker 1: No way. The funny thing is is like at that time,

1147
01:03:57,079 --> 01:03:59,599
it was probably like you and I were both just like, oh,

1148
01:03:59,719 --> 01:04:01,800
come on, you know that these are just sucking old

1149
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,800
men being idiots. But now probably really a hindsight, I'm

1150
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,639
sure he was gross dude.

1151
01:04:06,679 --> 01:04:09,639
Speaker 2: Like I just it was Michael Hayes was there. I

1152
01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:12,639
know Stephanie was there, Triph was there, there were other

1153
01:04:12,719 --> 01:04:14,800
people there, but I think Michael Hayes was the one

1154
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,360
that was quoted.

1155
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so no way, I know I could never believe,

1156
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,280
but no, you're right, they're probably better at their boss

1157
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,000
than they are at their job. And that's not necessarily

1158
01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:32,400
like you know, folding your arms up, being like they

1159
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:36,719
just fucking everyone. No, they're just more carrots. They just

1160
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,800
like them, they like them more. It's people because once again,

1161
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,400
like it's when they're all within this range of looks

1162
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,400
and marketability and aesthetics or whatever the fuck it's got

1163
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,079
to be, has got to come down to some sort

1164
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:55,079
of emotional beat that they hit with the people that

1165
01:04:55,119 --> 01:05:00,920
are booking the show, because you she can't explain to

1166
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,079
me once again why Juliet doesn't do anything on these shows.

1167
01:05:05,559 --> 01:05:08,920
But we have to be subjected to soul Ruka and

1168
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:14,280
Maxine and these girls that have like absolutely zero fucking

1169
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:19,159
talent and zero charisma, and it's like, Okay, they're athletic.

1170
01:05:19,719 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 2: I think she absolutely has charisma. I don't think she's

1171
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,039
I don't think she's good on the mic, but she's

1172
01:05:24,119 --> 01:05:27,159
absolutely charismatic. I think the fans like her. They like

1173
01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:29,039
her the way she she carries herself.

1174
01:05:29,159 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta get her out of the fucking Jenkos

1175
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:35,519
because that she also just looks.

1176
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 2: For her you know, it works for Jeff Hardy Joe.

1177
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,280
Why are you hating? Why are you hating?

1178
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: Bro Right in a fucking a suit worked for John

1179
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,960
Travolta and Saturday Night Fever in nineteen fucking eighty one.

1180
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,320
You know, like it's at some point you just go, yeah, no,

1181
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:58,039
this doesn't look good and the clunky movements and her

1182
01:05:58,119 --> 01:06:00,559
like she does like actually, honest to odd, she's like

1183
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:03,960
the most athletic girl I've ever seen that moves around

1184
01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:08,519
like fucking gassed out Batista. How are you that athletic

1185
01:06:08,599 --> 01:06:13,199
and still move around like jacked up fucking action figure Batista?

1186
01:06:13,559 --> 01:06:16,840
I don't know remember when remember the fucking the whole

1187
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:20,599
uh not whole Cogan, but the amazing hulk toy that

1188
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,760
was just big at its arms would just kind of

1189
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,320
like turn it the waist and shit, that's how soul

1190
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,800
Ruka moves around the ring. She'll she'll move around like

1191
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,039
then like that and then do like a triple one day,

1192
01:06:32,119 --> 01:06:35,079
You like, what is what is that? How do you

1193
01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:38,039
look so wooden? And then all of a sudden just

1194
01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:41,119
break out like a fucking six thirty. It makes no sense.

1195
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: Because I really feel like her mind is moving faster

1196
01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:48,400
than her body. Think it's one of those yeah, like

1197
01:06:48,719 --> 01:06:51,239
she knows what she wants to do, right, Like if

1198
01:06:51,639 --> 01:06:56,079
if we asked soul Ruka what she wanted to actually

1199
01:06:56,159 --> 01:06:59,320
happen in her matches, I bet they're very concise. I

1200
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,760
bet they're very fluid. It's probably a wonderful story that

1201
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,840
her and Raquel could have told. What actually happened, though,

1202
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,159
was was a fucking baby rhino and a china shop,

1203
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,199
Like it was just all over the fucking place, But

1204
01:07:13,559 --> 01:07:16,440
in the rhino's mind, it's over here, you know, picking

1205
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,599
up little tea kettles and little little sippy cups and

1206
01:07:19,679 --> 01:07:22,199
drinking out of them with its pinky up like it's

1207
01:07:22,679 --> 01:07:27,480
it's comically cartoonish as to how bad what was supposed

1208
01:07:27,519 --> 01:07:32,119
to happen versus what actually happened really was. So I

1209
01:07:32,159 --> 01:07:32,440
don't know.

1210
01:07:33,159 --> 01:07:36,119
Speaker 1: Does anybody watch her matches back with her and go

1211
01:07:36,239 --> 01:07:38,800
your look at your body language? It's fucking awful.

1212
01:07:39,159 --> 01:07:45,519
Speaker 2: I don't know. I assume that that's something somebody should do, right, somebody.

1213
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:52,079
Speaker 1: Any anyone, Like if I think about Early, No, he's

1214
01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:54,760
too busy getting locked in a cage and.

1215
01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:58,559
Speaker 2: That's bullshit. He always has time to take pictures with

1216
01:07:58,599 --> 01:07:59,320
the ladies. Joe.

1217
01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:04,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. No, but like if you

1218
01:08:04,639 --> 01:08:09,079
remember really early Rhea, she had really bad body language

1219
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:12,400
Shoe and it's because she was so fucking tall, and

1220
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,679
you could see, like you said, you could see her

1221
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,640
running through the spots, and it was a lot of

1222
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:21,159
the memorization and she wasn't really ready to fucking do

1223
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:25,159
things fluidly. And eventually she got over that. Maybe that

1224
01:08:25,199 --> 01:08:28,239
won't happen with Sol because the right times. Even in

1225
01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:30,319
that match, like when she smashed her in the face

1226
01:08:30,359 --> 01:08:33,560
with that knee, she did the follow up which was

1227
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,199
a little bit you know, off the cuff, but Raquel

1228
01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:39,840
didn't even respond because she was still too stunned from

1229
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,439
getting her knicks busted open again. She is still like,

1230
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:44,640
what the fuck right?

1231
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 2: Right? But that's what I'm saying, And Soul's already doing

1232
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:52,039
two other fucking moves by the time Raquel's like shaking

1233
01:08:52,079 --> 01:08:55,520
the cobwebs out of her fucking soul. So it's like, yeah,

1234
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,159
I really think it's a case of Soul is working

1235
01:08:59,159 --> 01:09:02,600
ahead of herself. She's not confident in what she's doing.

1236
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:06,279
She's running through the moves, but her body's not catching up, right,

1237
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,439
or she's just I don't know, I don't know, she's

1238
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,680
just too far ahead, Like that's that's a you thing

1239
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,800
that can you can explain. But that's what it looks

1240
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,920
like to me as a fan, is that she's working

1241
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:18,920
against herself.

1242
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: She's oh shit, I'm she has oh shit, I'm thinking

1243
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,039
face with poor posture because she's not ready and she's

1244
01:09:25,039 --> 01:09:29,600
not moving fluidly and naturally because she's not comfortable. Are

1245
01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:32,159
a green wrestler looks like? And I hate to bring

1246
01:09:32,199 --> 01:09:35,000
up Michael Hayes again, but I'll bring up a different Michael.

1247
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,960
A green wrestler looks like that Michael Richard's rant where

1248
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,800
he starts yelling the N word on the stage. That's

1249
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,239
what a green wrestler looks like. Also another Michael Well,

1250
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,560
they both probably do it, but like it's it's the

1251
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:54,479
I'm overwhelmed, which is where you end up with I'm overwhelmed.

1252
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,800
And her version of that was I'm just gonna need

1253
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,880
Raquel as heart as I can in the fucking face.

1254
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: That's what her her two though. That's the thing is,

1255
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,039
wouldn't she almost have more respect if she did it

1256
01:10:05,079 --> 01:10:10,279
on purpose to fucking bust Raquel open versus I didn't

1257
01:10:10,359 --> 01:10:11,600
mean to do this at all.

1258
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,039
Speaker 1: Like doctor Death Raquel or.

1259
01:10:17,399 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 2: Doctor Death Soul Ruca.

1260
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Strong Style Soul Ruca is Steve kurr Ruca.

1261
01:10:27,119 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 2: Sure, Or.

1262
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,239
Speaker 1: She's like, that's a receipt brother who like, what the fu?

1263
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:40,640
Yeah No, that's a green sloppy girl who's who's overwhelmed

1264
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,239
and doesn't know what she's doing, so she just starts.

1265
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,520
She's like, I'm just gonna do a thing, and it's

1266
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,319
gonna look fucking cool and tough and hard. I'm just

1267
01:10:48,359 --> 01:10:50,840
gonna hit her and then people are gonna go ooh,

1268
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,600
as opposed to just looking and sitting completely on their

1269
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,079
hands staring at her like who fired it? Yeah, And

1270
01:10:58,119 --> 01:11:01,039
that's what it is. It's the acting. It's that acting

1271
01:11:01,119 --> 01:11:05,439
out like someone's so uncomfortable that they just go completely

1272
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,159
off the rails. And that's sort of what it is.

1273
01:11:08,199 --> 01:11:11,279
What you see that with green wrestlers, they'll go completely

1274
01:11:11,319 --> 01:11:14,279
off the rails. And sometimes yeah, they'll hit somebody too hard,

1275
01:11:14,359 --> 01:11:16,680
or they'll kick them too hard, or they'll do some

1276
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:21,399
stupid shit because in their mind they're trying to remember

1277
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:25,720
what they're supposed to do next. Well also simultaneously feeling

1278
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:30,159
the pressure of the crowd not giving a fuck and

1279
01:11:30,199 --> 01:11:33,800
it's it's all the different senses they're coming at them

1280
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,279
at the same time, and instead of being able to

1281
01:11:36,359 --> 01:11:39,680
just take a deep breath and go listen, these people

1282
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,000
might not give a shit in this moment. But it's

1283
01:11:42,039 --> 01:11:45,199
just a random fucking Monday night. Raw, I'm at a

1284
01:11:45,239 --> 01:11:49,479
woman's match at ten fifteen at night. No one fucking cares.

1285
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,319
It's okay, I just got a chill out, do the thing,

1286
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,319
be a professional, go to the back, lose the belt,

1287
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,880
a shake er Kel's hand, and I say, you know,

1288
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,079
thank you, honey, that was right. We had a great match,

1289
01:12:01,119 --> 01:12:03,119
and I'll see you. You know, I'll see you on Friday.

1290
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,439
And she don't think like that when you're green and

1291
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,119
scared and thinking, oh my god, i'm gonna get made

1292
01:12:09,119 --> 01:12:11,039
fun of on the internet. I'm gonna get a bit,

1293
01:12:11,239 --> 01:12:14,159
I'm gonna get yelled at and blabbah blah blah blah,

1294
01:12:14,199 --> 01:12:17,720
because that's what somebody does when they're nervous and unprepared,

1295
01:12:18,279 --> 01:12:20,359
and a lot of the times that's what happens. People

1296
01:12:20,399 --> 01:12:25,760
get more hurt being nervous than they do just going

1297
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,279
all right, whatever come, what may.

1298
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 4: Right.

1299
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: But hopefully this is now a sign that it's time

1300
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,439
for them to start steering away from soul Ruka, get

1301
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,600
her off Television center, back down to n XT and

1302
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:43,079
start focusing a spotlight on somebody who's ready, capable, competent.

1303
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,159
And uh, yeah, I mean it was a nice idea.

1304
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,800
It was a nice idea. They did the same thing

1305
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,680
with her that they did with tiffany Where's a nice idea, right,

1306
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,079
it's a nice idea we could do something with that. Look,

1307
01:12:57,159 --> 01:13:00,760
she's super athletic, and she's pretty and she's a she's

1308
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:05,800
a gymnast whoa poh great, and it's like, well, not ready, right,

1309
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,079
Sometimes you gotta accept that. You just gotta accept these

1310
01:13:10,119 --> 01:13:12,840
people weren't ready. And you know what I wasn't ready for.

1311
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,560
I wasn't ready for the USA. We already talked about

1312
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,560
the usas, but I wasn't ready for Yeah, that was

1313
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:19,279
that was fine.

1314
01:13:19,359 --> 01:13:22,399
Speaker 2: Another main events where we had South Rollins and Roman

1315
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,439
reigns come out and talk to each other. I wasn't

1316
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,359
ready for that. I mean, that's not what's been happening

1317
01:13:28,359 --> 01:13:30,680
for the last four weeks, right, But you know, like

1318
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,439
that's why not. You guys enjoyed it so much.

1319
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: I stuckered you into this match. I'm like, who is

1320
01:13:39,119 --> 01:13:44,119
the face? Who am I jeering for? Who is the

1321
01:13:44,319 --> 01:13:48,520
who is the good person here? The whole industry needs

1322
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:53,039
me to beat you, dude? Yeah right? Do you know

1323
01:13:53,039 --> 01:13:57,319
how fucking funny that was? Do you know how funny

1324
01:13:57,359 --> 01:14:02,880
it was to hear Roman Raine try to play the underdog,

1325
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:11,439
This fucking asshole who has beat everyone for fifteen years,

1326
01:14:13,079 --> 01:14:18,000
He's trying to fucking add a boy Rocky Balboa right now.

1327
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,560
This guy would find the fucking shroud of Turk or

1328
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,880
whatever it is Jesus for Yeah, he'd fucking pin that.

1329
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,600
If you pin it, laid out a pin it, I

1330
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,760
won ww. We would book him to beat the shroud

1331
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,000
of fucking turn if they could. He has beaten everyone

1332
01:14:39,319 --> 01:14:43,479
mercilessly for closer to fucking two decades.

1333
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,239
Speaker 5: And he's like, I don't think you got to understand

1334
01:14:46,399 --> 01:14:49,079
is that the industry needs me to beat you.

1335
01:14:49,239 --> 01:14:53,239
Speaker 7: What are you talking about? The fuck are you talking about?

1336
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,199
You've been books like fucking the most important guy on

1337
01:14:58,239 --> 01:15:00,960
the plane. The announcers don't e know how to call

1338
01:15:01,039 --> 01:15:03,960
your ship because all they've been dold for fifteen years

1339
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,279
is to put you over. So when like fucking Elleen

1340
01:15:08,359 --> 01:15:09,439
Knight's like, this sucks.

1341
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: The announcers are like, I don't know why only I

1342
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,720
would ever say such a thing about Roman. That makes

1343
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:14,279
no sense.

1344
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: I was kind of hoping that they could actually run

1345
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,640
with this and do like the old Royal Rumble interviews

1346
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:27,680
where they have like myster Iguana going, I really need

1347
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,720
Roman reigns to win for my people.

1348
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: Oh that yeah, all of a sudden, they put they

1349
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,479
put an Ai fucking Eddie Guerrero sitting on a cloud.

1350
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 5: Essay, do it for yah? Listen here here, yeah, Oh,

1351
01:15:52,119 --> 01:15:54,760
the cream of the crop. It's gotta be Roman rings.

1352
01:15:57,119 --> 01:16:01,720
Have you seen roman rains record? It's only seven hundred

1353
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,800
and fifty two to twelve.

1354
01:16:04,199 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: Be a man, Seve, honest to god. Not that I

1355
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,279
would ever want a fucking Patriot or give a click

1356
01:16:15,399 --> 01:16:18,840
to one of those fucking cage match sites, But what's

1357
01:16:19,039 --> 01:16:23,399
Roman's collective record throughout the past fifteen years? I would

1358
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:27,640
wazer to bed. It's probably like nine, Like the way

1359
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,600
like a fucking percentage score is like he's probably won

1360
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:36,680
what zero point nine eight five percent of his matches.

1361
01:16:38,279 --> 01:16:42,880
I mean, really, i'd say if he's wrestled, let's just

1362
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,199
say he's wrestled a thousand matches in his career. He

1363
01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:50,159
has won nine hundred and fifty of them, maybe nine

1364
01:16:50,199 --> 01:16:53,239
hundred and twenty five before being generous and counting tag

1365
01:16:53,279 --> 01:16:57,680
team matches like the idea of him go and like

1366
01:16:59,359 --> 01:17:02,720
have to beat there, I must beat you. There is

1367
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,840
no wow, Get out of here. Let's see, all right,

1368
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:10,920
So Roman Raine says, oney, ten matches, three hundred and

1369
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,199
forty losses and thirty three draws. All right, I'm not

1370
01:17:13,239 --> 01:17:15,840
counting fucking draws. Get the fuck out of here, dude.

1371
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:22,760
Oh wow, Okay, so he's only one seventy three. Yeah,

1372
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,600
because I'm not counting dude, I'm not counting the fucking draws.

1373
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,520
Your break. So yeah, at least I'm rounded up a

1374
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,399
little bit. There, I'm saying, at least he's won. So

1375
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:36,560
seventy eight percent of his matches is just all those

1376
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:37,680
drug miss all those.

1377
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,319
Speaker 2: There's more, there's more, hold on and there's another part

1378
01:17:40,399 --> 01:17:43,159
to this. What what he didn't read? His win rate

1379
01:17:43,319 --> 01:17:48,479
improved significantly during his tribal chief persona from twenty twenty

1380
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,880
to twenty twenty four, where he maintained a win ratio

1381
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:59,399
often exceeding eighty five plus percent for seven consecutive years.

1382
01:18:01,159 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: You know what, fuck the water supply. Ask him without

1383
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,279
the fight, Ask him without his tag matches, all right,

1384
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,199
ask him without when he was gonna fucking tag them match.

1385
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,039
It's just singles matches, I assure you.

1386
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,359
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty. All of those wins, so all of those

1387
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:22,079
losses happened before twenty twenty, right, right.

1388
01:18:22,279 --> 01:18:24,159
Speaker 1: So let's just so let's just put it this way.

1389
01:18:24,199 --> 01:18:26,600
We'll round it right up to eighty percent. Let's just

1390
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,880
round it to eighty because I think that's pretty reasonable.

1391
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So he wins four out of five of his matches,

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and then this is somebody that's looking and going, how

1393
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:40,079
could I ever? How could I ever?

1394
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:46,399
Speaker 2: Yes, it's because Seth represents h type of hell.

1395
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: He can't climb. Yeah, the type of friend Seth were

1396
01:18:54,000 --> 01:19:00,199
just so different. Oh you are? You really are the

1397
01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:03,319
only difference between Seth Rawlins and Roman Reigns at Seth

1398
01:19:03,399 --> 01:19:05,520
Rowlins at least has the dignity to show up and

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bora us. That's the only.

1400
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: Difference between the whole industry needs me to beat you.

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01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: I love it. Man. If they weren't, if TKO wasn't

1402
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,600
so cheap, maybe they could get that music that would

1403
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:35,840
if I only could we could do with God? Oh

1404
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,039
could I ever beat us? Like? Haven't you beat Seth?

1405
01:19:39,159 --> 01:19:41,840
Like forty two times? And he's just beating you forty

1406
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:42,600
five times?

1407
01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 2: Mike, I have those losses since twenty twenty are Seth rollins?

1408
01:19:49,039 --> 01:19:52,520
Speaker 1: Oh? Probably most of them. That's probably what it is,

1409
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:56,039
because they would probably, this is my guest, if you

1410
01:19:56,079 --> 01:19:59,720
were to break down those losses, it was probably let's see,

1411
01:20:00,079 --> 01:20:02,640
lost one to Jay I remember somewhere in there, because

1412
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:11,279
that was like a shock Cargo right, oh Shay cargole Ja, Yeah,

1413
01:20:11,359 --> 01:20:15,560
Jay and that wig he kill it. He's we know

1414
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,039
that these just off memory blind memory. In the last

1415
01:20:19,079 --> 01:20:23,039
half dozen years, he's lost to his cousin John Cena,

1416
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:28,920
Cody Rhodes, And I think that's that about it. Solo.

1417
01:20:29,319 --> 01:20:31,840
I think he lost one. Yeah, so he's lost he's

1418
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,279
lost badges to a couple of his family members, John Cena.

1419
01:20:36,319 --> 01:20:37,920
Did he lose one of punk I don't think he

1420
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:38,960
lost one a punk in there?

1421
01:20:39,079 --> 01:20:40,319
Speaker 2: Did he lose a brock.

1422
01:20:42,199 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he might have lost one to brock in there? Yeah,

1423
01:20:47,039 --> 01:20:49,439
So this is it. Yeah, let's see this is a

1424
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:55,439
every room one two.

1425
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 2: Wow. December four, Worth oh so that was a Christmas present.

1426
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: I see Roman Reigns and jay Us versus Kevin Owens

1427
01:21:06,039 --> 01:21:09,479
Xavier Woods. You want to bet they pins jay Us?

1428
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,239
You bet your fucking bet your life on that one. Yeah,

1429
01:21:13,039 --> 01:21:17,760
uh behavior Woods, that was god have been a d

1430
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,520
K in no way that wasn't a deep.

1431
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,039
Speaker 2: I'm sure there was a lot of fuckery in that match.

1432
01:21:23,399 --> 01:21:25,239
Xavier Woods was the afterthought.

1433
01:21:27,159 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: Let's sake, and strictly one on one competition. Roman Reigns

1434
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:34,319
has an exceptional win. Yes, he's one eighty eight of

1435
01:21:34,359 --> 01:21:37,800
his singles match. Thank you. So this is once again

1436
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,600
the guy that's sitting there being like I I must

1437
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,920
overcome you seth Rollins for the industry.

1438
01:21:45,079 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 2: You know what, let's witch fair, hey, Joe, since you're

1439
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,720
on the roll here, Joe punches. What's what's Seth's win

1440
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,479
loss record? Oh god, I mean, let's see what Let's

1441
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,800
see what Roman sees, Joe, because we're over here just

1442
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,760
bagging on Roman. But maybe Roman knows something. Maybe Roman

1443
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,720
is seeing the forest through the trees and he doesn't

1444
01:22:05,239 --> 01:22:07,920
he doesn't really, you know, tell us the evil that

1445
01:22:08,119 --> 01:22:11,199
is seth Rawlins. So maybe we can figure it out

1446
01:22:11,239 --> 01:22:12,840
together here on wrestling suit.

1447
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,319
Speaker 1: We can all right, what do you what's your guest

1448
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:19,439
for I'm gonna say for Seth fifty five to sixty

1449
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,600
win ratio, and that's only because he's gone.

1450
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 2: Will Yeah, but I will put a caveat to that

1451
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,199
because I don't think it's the wind ratio that I'm

1452
01:22:28,199 --> 01:22:33,239
gonna count. I'll count the pin ratio. How many times

1453
01:22:33,319 --> 01:22:37,399
has Seth Rawlin's been pinned? Let's see, because I think

1454
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,279
there's a lot of d q's in Seth's past, a

1455
01:22:40,359 --> 01:22:42,960
lot of them, a lot of decus, a lot of

1456
01:22:43,239 --> 01:22:46,039
a lot of Mike Partner lost what a fucking piece

1457
01:22:46,079 --> 01:22:49,399
of shit? Now, a lot of that.

1458
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to remember he was a heel for

1459
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,840
a lot of that time, and he was the heel

1460
01:22:54,039 --> 01:22:57,680
that would take the l to like Sina and shit.

1461
01:22:58,520 --> 01:22:59,920
That was never Roman's role.

1462
01:23:00,079 --> 01:23:04,239
Speaker 2: Real Seth Robins has eleven hundred thirty two wins, nine

1463
01:23:04,359 --> 01:23:09,319
hundred and thirty four losses, and sixty draws. So will

1464
01:23:09,319 --> 01:23:11,479
they come out two percent? Oh yeah, maybe like a

1465
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,439
sixty percent? Right, Oh no, not even probably like a

1466
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:15,359
fifty five percent.

1467
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was guess in fifty five to sixty

1468
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,960
because he's he's put over. Like I said, for what

1469
01:23:21,079 --> 01:23:25,000
it's worth. Even though he's insufferable, he has lost.

1470
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: They're also coming our wage. Come on now, FC oh

1471
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,439
they are rh Yeah, let's not yah.

1472
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I'm not counting that.

1473
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,239
Speaker 2: That's that's a different guy. He's got a forty five

1474
01:23:36,399 --> 01:23:39,640
percent win ratio. Wow.

1475
01:23:41,239 --> 01:23:44,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, but once again, if that's including like his indie

1476
01:23:44,239 --> 01:23:45,279
wrestling career.

1477
01:23:45,159 --> 01:23:47,119
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is just WWE now.

1478
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:51,119
Speaker 1: Oh okay, wow, heliums more.

1479
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 2: Than he's won in WWE. Six hundred and three wins,

1480
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,560
six hundred and ninety eight losses, twenty five draws. Wow,

1481
01:23:58,439 --> 01:23:59,960
it feels like he always wins.

1482
01:24:04,159 --> 01:24:06,359
Speaker 1: Well, that's because he's triple ah. So you'll always get

1483
01:24:06,399 --> 01:24:09,439
it back. I'll always get it back, and usually threefold.

1484
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,159
I think that's how it goes. Play this. Roman Reigns

1485
01:24:13,159 --> 01:24:17,399
has never officially submitted or tapped out on WWE television

1486
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:22,880
during his entire career. That's fucking crazy.

1487
01:24:23,399 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 2: Swollen mustache puts up. Roman Reigns has defeated Seth Rollins

1488
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,560
nineteen times in one on one matches.

1489
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 7: I've running up there.

1490
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:40,119
Speaker 1: I've only beat you twenty times. I'm sorry, I beat

1491
01:24:40,119 --> 01:24:43,920
you nineteen times. I have to beat you fucking twenty

1492
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:49,399
well gets us stuck my entire asshole. That is ridiculous.

1493
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,439
The industry needs me to beat you.

1494
01:24:54,359 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 2: Hey man, I cannot wait for two days of Summer

1495
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,439
Slam coming up. I know Joe and myself will be

1496
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:06,039
here on Thursday to really break down Summer Slam for everybody, but.

1497
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:16,079
Speaker 1: We'll just be here. Well by then, we got to think. Man, right,

1498
01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:19,600
they're absolutely going to add two or three more matches

1499
01:25:20,399 --> 01:25:27,079
on SmackDown because they added two matches last night I believe, right,

1500
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,359
the Dan Housen Money's match and then something else, I believe.

1501
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,119
So I'm going to assume they're going to add another

1502
01:25:34,199 --> 01:25:40,920
two matches on match that. Yeah, well, yeah, we'll have

1503
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:45,920
to see. They're going to definitely add one well, one

1504
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:47,119
woman's match, one men's match.

1505
01:25:47,199 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 2: The got twelve matches. I think they're good.

1506
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like six matches more than they usually would

1507
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,600
put on, even on two nights, right, Uh oh no,

1508
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,840
you're right, because that would be so they'll do the

1509
01:26:00,399 --> 01:26:04,960
pre show on ESPN two app right, and they'll run

1510
01:26:05,079 --> 01:26:08,720
that for an hour and then they'll fuck okay, all right,

1511
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,079
so twelve they might be done that. You're right, they

1512
01:26:11,119 --> 01:26:14,279
might be done all right, but you know who else

1513
01:26:14,399 --> 01:26:14,640
is done.

1514
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,279
Speaker 2: We are so much loved everybody. Thank you for supporting

1515
01:26:17,319 --> 01:26:21,000
the Showpatreon dot com for it, lash Restling Soup and yeah,

1516
01:26:21,039 --> 01:26:22,000
we'll be back Thursday.

1517
01:26:23,079 --> 01:26:26,359
Speaker 1: Be on Thursday. Gonna go take a piece.

1518
01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 4: I'm the only true champion around here. And when I

1519
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:38,439
said it, I'm minted. I need to beat you. I

1520
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,359
need my family to see me beat you.

1521
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 3: You at the.

1522
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 4: Everyone, everybody needs me to beat you. It's not just

1523
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:51,680
this company, the whole industry needs me to beat you.

1524
01:27:00,319 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 6: Stuma and a mad Steven and at Steumano spielding, stifly cool,

1525
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:12,800
little