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<v Speaker 1>Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your

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<v Speaker 1>daily comedy news. I'm gonna jump right in today. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a guest in the first half. Then we'll take

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<v Speaker 1>the break, and then i'll tell you a couple things

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<v Speaker 1>on the comedy front. Andy Woodhole has a new album.

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<v Speaker 1>It is called Beach Breen. It is his seventh comedy album.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's my conversation with Andy. I was checking out

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast and I loved that you went all inside

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<v Speaker 1>baseball on the recording of the album. You told a

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<v Speaker 1>great story about working in crowd laughter. I'll lead you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'd love for you to tell that story to

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<v Speaker 1>my audience because I'm increasingly suspect of what I hear

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<v Speaker 1>as laughs in Netflix specials. I've got an ear for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Short story on me. I programmed serious XM comedy for

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, so I sat at a desk listening to comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Rou Oh yeah, well, hey, thanks for playing me all

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<v Speaker 2>those times.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come back and we'll talk about that a second.

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<v Speaker 1>So for you know, ten years, I'm sitting there all

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<v Speaker 1>day listening to the stuff, so I kind of know

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<v Speaker 1>how audiences react, and I will hear stuff on some

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<v Speaker 1>of these Netflix specials, and I'm like, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>So could you just tell the anecdote that I'm sharing

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<v Speaker 1>from your podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what I think you're talking about is I did

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<v Speaker 2>a recording called Live from Elkhart, which you can find,

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<v Speaker 2>and I only had one shot at it. Sometimes you

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<v Speaker 2>have multiple shots, so if you don't get a joke right,

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<v Speaker 2>you can pull it from the next set, but this

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<v Speaker 2>one I had one shot at it, So any mistakes

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<v Speaker 2>I did, I would just say, hey, I'm made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to do that joke over. I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>guys don't mind. And then so I flubbed this joke.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I said a wrong word here, a wrong

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<v Speaker 2>word there, left something out, and then I did it right,

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<v Speaker 2>and the audience clapped like I had just finished playing

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<v Speaker 2>Freeberg or something. It was an insane reaction. And then

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<v Speaker 2>when we went to the editing, it doesn't mean any

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<v Speaker 2>sense that this joke is getting that level of laugh So,

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<v Speaker 2>while I will swear never on any of my comedy

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<v Speaker 2>albums have I had them ad laughs. That was a

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<v Speaker 2>moment where I said, you have to take some of

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<v Speaker 2>this laughing and clapping away because it seems fake. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you running into clapter with audiences? I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that's crept into the last ten years. There

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<v Speaker 1>was one I don't want to throw anybody on a bus,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was watching one comedian who is fantastic and

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<v Speaker 1>he did this whole chunk and the audience clapped, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't I don't think that's what you're supposed.

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<v Speaker 2>To do there, folks. No, I don't get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it because I don't think that I am writing

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<v Speaker 2>that type of joke. And if there's anyone that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>know what you mean by clapter, it's when a comedian

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<v Speaker 2>will say something that the audience agrees with and they

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<v Speaker 2>will clap. It's more right then it's funny, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it engages audiences, and I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>suppose has its place, but that's not what I attempt

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<v Speaker 2>to deal in.

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<v Speaker 1>What made you decide to go within audio album? I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it, you know, in the year of the Netflix special,

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<v Speaker 1>the YouTube special, and I still program comedy radio for

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<v Speaker 1>Live one, it is great to have, you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>old fashioned album.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, well it's not that. Let me give the

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<v Speaker 2>most smart sounding decision. I guess, rather than everyone is

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<v Speaker 2>putting out specials. There's all these specials that look amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>they're highly produced, there's million dollar budgets. I am still

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<v Speaker 2>basically a one man operation. Even though I did do

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<v Speaker 2>this one with a comedy record label called Blonde Medicine,

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<v Speaker 2>that are fantastic and they're putting out great comics and

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<v Speaker 2>you should check them out and listen to everyone whose

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<v Speaker 2>album they produce. But a million dollar production buzz it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't in the cards for me. So I thought to

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<v Speaker 2>set my apart. I do something different. I do the

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<v Speaker 2>audio album, which is how people have been finding my

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<v Speaker 2>comedy for the whole time I've been doing comedy is

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<v Speaker 2>through things like Serious and Pandora and Spotify, And as

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<v Speaker 2>far as the video, it'll just be on YouTube and

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<v Speaker 2>it'll just be a straight shots of camera. It's I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to go halfway, you know. I could have

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<v Speaker 2>spent a lot of my own money and I had

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<v Speaker 2>a higher production value, but it wouldn't look as good

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<v Speaker 2>as a Netflix special, and so I decided it is

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<v Speaker 2>what it is. This is a side of the club,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you want to see me doing it, you

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<v Speaker 2>can see me doing it on YouTube, but otherwise it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's audio.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting to me that you say that as

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<v Speaker 1>a comedian, because one of the things where you've been

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with in podcasting is this whole Hey, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be on YouTube, you gotta make a video podcast. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've struggled with it. Yeah, because for my audience who

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<v Speaker 1>were watching this on YouTube, this is what the show

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<v Speaker 1>looks like. This is what me recording the podcast looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not very interesting. I'm fifty five years old. I

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<v Speaker 1>self describe him somewhere between Troll and George Clooney. You

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<v Speaker 1>can pick, but you know, I'm not a sexy, hot

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<v Speaker 1>chick in her twenties where everybody's gon be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just randomly click on this thumbnail. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy with a dumb backdrop and doing comedy headlines. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I love that. I don't. I don't love,

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<v Speaker 1>but I appreciate that you're going through the same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of struggle of I can't keep it with a Netflix budget,

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<v Speaker 1>like I explain, and I also teach a college class.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm Andrew Schultz and I have a big time politician,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got a couch set up and a three

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<v Speaker 1>camera shoot and proper lighting and a PR team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or videos awesome, but a guy in his basement it's

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<v Speaker 1>really hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. Yeah, low production as well. YouTube was supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think it was for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>What it was supposed to be, and now it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>great and those things are great, but now it's no

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<v Speaker 2>longer as much do it yourself unless you want to

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<v Speaker 2>just watch someone's AI edited video, which I I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. For the album Beach Breen, I was intrigued

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<v Speaker 1>by the cover. I'm a Beach Boys fan, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely whoever put it together, and maybe you, hopefully you,

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<v Speaker 1>because it'll make a more interesting conversation. Definitely went for

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<v Speaker 1>that nineteen sixties album cover Vibe. The fonts are right,

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<v Speaker 1>the colors are right. Where the where did the album

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<v Speaker 1>cover come from?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll take partial credit for the album cover. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the credit goes towards the good folks over

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<v Speaker 2>there at Blonde Medicine, because this is the seventh time

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<v Speaker 2>I've put out an album and I have never had

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<v Speaker 2>a photo of myself on the cover because I always

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<v Speaker 2>felt like when the guy is on the cover of

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<v Speaker 2>the comedy album. You know, he's making a face.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I hate that. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I didn't know. You know, I never quite felt

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<v Speaker 2>like what my face on a cover. So everyone I've

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<v Speaker 2>done up until now has been an illustration, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do an illustration again, and people at Blonde

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<v Speaker 2>Medicine kind of pushed back a little bit, and they said,

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<v Speaker 2>we think you've never had your face on the cover

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<v Speaker 2>of an album. I think it's time to put your

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<v Speaker 2>face on the cover of an album, especially because things

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<v Speaker 2>I've done in the past that have been really popular.

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<v Speaker 2>I look much younger, I don't have a beard. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>people have a hard time even recognizing me from my

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<v Speaker 2>own self from ten years ago. So they convinced me

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. So there was a photo shoot, which

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<v Speaker 2>was uncomfortable because it's in public. It's not like you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a studio. Because I wanted to do it at

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<v Speaker 2>the beach, so people are taking photos and I actually

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<v Speaker 2>ran into this guy that I was just like a

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<v Speaker 2>guy I casually say hi to walking my dog at

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<v Speaker 2>the beach, and he saw the whole photo shoot and

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<v Speaker 2>then asked me about it. It was incredibly embarrassing and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I had the idea to set on

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<v Speaker 2>the beach. I wore the outfit because it's an outfit

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<v Speaker 2>my wife bought for me. I agree that I think

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<v Speaker 2>it has a cool like beach boys vibe, But I

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<v Speaker 2>can't take credit for the outfit. That's I just could

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<v Speaker 2>rested by the woman that loves me at the time

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<v Speaker 2>in my life, and I'm great with it. I like

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<v Speaker 2>living that life, and so she gets the credit for

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<v Speaker 2>the outfit. They get the credit for deciding to do

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<v Speaker 2>a photo shoot, and I believe they also have a

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<v Speaker 2>graphic designer in house that did the final design. But

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<v Speaker 2>the photo on the beach with the beach stuff was

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<v Speaker 2>was my idea?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that Santa Monica?

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<v Speaker 2>It is Santa Monica. Yeah, so you just.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk out over there to a photo shooting, go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly what it was. I walked from our

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<v Speaker 2>apartment to the beach. I did a photo shoot in public,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm an Instagram model, and I was spotted by

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<v Speaker 2>an acquaintance and it was incredibly embarrassing. And yeah, anyone

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<v Speaker 2>that's had to get their photo taken just knows it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little embarrassing to have, you know your photography, giant camera,

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<v Speaker 2>they're inches away from your face. They always seem way

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<v Speaker 2>closer than they need to be, and it's embarrassing in

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<v Speaker 2>a studio. So I did mine publicly.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that caught my eye, and you can make

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<v Speaker 1>fun of me in the schoolyard, and I know you

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<v Speaker 1>agree to do this interview so that we could talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the cover for twenty minutes. It is the Igloo

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<v Speaker 1>cooler and I have one of those in red, but

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<v Speaker 1>mine is from nineteen seventy six, and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a bi centennial sticker on it that either

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<v Speaker 1>my mom or I put on in seventy six. And

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<v Speaker 1>as I was just thinking about this interview, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hitting the beach with a forty nine year old cooler.

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<v Speaker 2>But it works. Yeah, it's a great cooler. I think

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<v Speaker 2>my wife and I liked it because of that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of retro design and Easter egg on the album cover.

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<v Speaker 2>That cooler is the first thing we ever bought together

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<v Speaker 2>as a couple. We pitched in I think twenty dollars

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<v Speaker 2>each and bought that forty dollars cooler. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>zoom in tight, there's a sticker of my older specials

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<v Speaker 2>on the cooler.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh nice, and you're going to have.

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<v Speaker 2>Century sings there? Yeah, I hope, so, I hope. So.

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<v Speaker 1>So you talked about the royalties from digital play, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a nice thing. I'll tell you a story is so,

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<v Speaker 1>when I first started It's serious, the initial reaction from

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<v Speaker 1>the comedians was you're stealing my material. Da da da da,

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<v Speaker 1>And then people realized they were selling tickets off it.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I was backstage with Ron White, who found

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<v Speaker 1>out what I did for a living, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>very happy to meet me because he had gotten a

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<v Speaker 1>nice significant check with I think at least five zeros

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<v Speaker 1>in it. So that guy rid of a whole like

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<v Speaker 1>you're a stealing armt. Well that was because we had

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<v Speaker 1>blue collar radios that we were playing every fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know that that money's nice there. I wish

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<v Speaker 2>that every Netflix special has an audio version? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>So then the Netflix thing is one of my pet

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<v Speaker 1>what Netflix will often do is they'll take something like

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<v Speaker 1>it in the cool record store in Portland, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred copies of it. But technically it's an album.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know something, if you wanted to get you know,

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<v Speaker 2>But I sold CDs for a little bit longer than

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to embarrass yourself and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then I did that for a little while.

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<v Speaker 2>I did that. I did do that for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't that it was embarrassing. I felt that

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<v Speaker 2>of plastic ones, but I still felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if someone wants to buy something after a show, they

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<v Speaker 2>want something, and the QR code, although it gets you

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<v Speaker 2>to the album, and it works, and that's how people

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<v Speaker 2>do things because things like Spotify and Pandora and serious

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<v Speaker 2>are so popular and those albums are available for free,

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<v Speaker 2>especially you know, the streaming services like Spotify and Apple

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<v Speaker 2>through whenever you want. I think you just weren't getting

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<v Speaker 2>And so.

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<v Speaker 1>You talked about your look changing over the years. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>the younger version of him on an album cover. I'm like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you look like. I mean, we all get older.

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<v Speaker 1>You did one of his Nateland showcases.

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<v Speaker 2>How is he?

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<v Speaker 1>How was that? How's it working with that crew?

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<v Speaker 2>They're really Yeah, they're very cool. I think they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>a neat thing in comedy because comedy has transitioned to

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<v Speaker 2>this online model, you know. I mean still like Netflix

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<v Speaker 2>and Hulu now and other streaming services will be putting

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<v Speaker 2>out specials and that's great and people are finding comedy

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But comedy used to be on Comedy Central

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<v Speaker 2>and on late night TV spots, and that's where you

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<v Speaker 2>have a show that would showcase people you haven't heard of.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there was Premium Blend, and then the one

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<v Speaker 2>there was one after that, like Adam Devine's House Party

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, and it was this cool place

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<v Speaker 2>where you could see a little taste of someone you've

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<v Speaker 2>have a million followers to be in that position, and

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<v Speaker 2>that has gone away. The TV has gone away from that,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I think the coolest thing that Bargatsy is

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<v Speaker 2>he has recreated that show where he's introducing the world

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<v Speaker 2>to comedians that are funny and otherwise don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>platform other than you know, the platform that we all have,

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<v Speaker 2>or we can put things on our own. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's cool that he kind of picked up that ball,

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<v Speaker 2>that premium blend Lavigotham ball and is rolling with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what Nyland it is, and of course it's

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<v Speaker 2>a Bargatsi products, so everything is squeaky clean over there too,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's what you're into.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that makes a lot of sense. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>no prude. I like my share of the swear words.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember the first time I met Foxworthy and

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<v Speaker 1>this is we're putting together blue Collar Radio, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was explaining to me. He said, I used to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>work the same way as everybody else. And he held

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<v Speaker 1>his hands like this kind of close together, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I stopped cursing, and I picked up the

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<v Speaker 1>kids and the grandmothers and he stretched his arms and

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<v Speaker 1>that was his whole mindset. You know. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>the art of working clean is if you don't notice it,

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<v Speaker 1>you've nailed it.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree. I don't. I mean, I have been

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<v Speaker 2>clean for several years now as far as my stand up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't necessarily like advertising the shows as clean

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<v Speaker 2>shows because I think that comes with kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>stigma of boring. If you tell me, do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to watch this clean comedian? I don't, but I will

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<v Speaker 2>watch someone like Ryan Hamilton who is clean, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you don't. It doesn't even hate you tell somebody brings

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<v Speaker 2>it up. Oh yeah, he didn't curse. Oh yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I hope people are saying after they listen

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<v Speaker 2>to this new album or the last couple albums that

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<v Speaker 2>I've made.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's an effect too if you were

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<v Speaker 1>mostly clean and a well placed swear word, that can

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<v Speaker 1>really just you know, punch a joke for affect, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I totally agree with that too. It really

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<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, it's fun to have one curse in the set. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's mad about one curse. You can curse once and

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<v Speaker 2>people won't say that it was filthy.

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<v Speaker 1>I like your podcast. It's nice and easy on the ears.

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<v Speaker 1>It appears to be an actual backyard and not a

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<v Speaker 1>set because.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are cold, it is and we are cold.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it is. It's Tommy Johnigan's backyard and it's comedians

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out. We each bring different topics. We have some

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<v Speaker 2>recurring segments and honestly, my favorite thing is those are

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<v Speaker 2>two of my best friends, Tommy and Alex Stone, and

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<v Speaker 2>doing the podcast gives us a reason that we have

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<v Speaker 2>to get together at least once a week, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>Is everybody good about holding to the schedule, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the pains of doing a podcast with somebody else,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Oh, I'm not around well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know for sure? Yeah, for sure. There'll be times

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<v Speaker 2>when people are busy and we'll have people fill in,

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<v Speaker 2>or just two of us will do it when we can.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would say for the most part, we're able

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<v Speaker 2>to always get together and we usually record on Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>or Monday, and we usually don't decide until sometimes Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon when it's gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Be About two weeks ago, you did that Rhode Island,

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<v Speaker 1>that Rhode Island Festival Roady I think it was called.

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<v Speaker 1>There that looked like it was awesome. How was that?

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<v Speaker 2>It was very cool? You know, they put together such

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<v Speaker 2>a cool, very cool festival, and it was great for

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<v Speaker 2>the comics. My only regret is that I could go

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<v Speaker 2>for the whole thing. I was just kind of in

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<v Speaker 2>the day for my show and then I left the

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<v Speaker 2>next day. But yeah, they put together amazing an amazing thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is just so fun to be involved in

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<v Speaker 2>something with people that care about comedy and love comedy,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know I do. I love I love stand up.

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<v Speaker 2>I love doing stand up. I feel so lucky to

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<v Speaker 2>get to be doing stand up. And sometimes you do

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<v Speaker 2>a show and it's all about how many tickets did

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<v Speaker 2>you sell? What was it that? Why? Bye bye? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know who even knows what I'm saying. And these

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<v Speaker 2>people just genuinely love stand up and you can tell

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<v Speaker 2>that by how they put the shows together and how

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<v Speaker 1>At a festival where we have more time, do you

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<v Speaker 1>go see other people's shows or is it more about

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<v Speaker 1>hanging with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, I are to do yeah, yeah, because somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we've been doing comedy for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>so uh, you know, any given festival, you're gonna know

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<v Speaker 2>some people, be friends with some people. There's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>have a chance to hang out with them. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>usually hangs after the shows or like events during the day,

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<v Speaker 2>and plenty of time for people to get together that

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<v Speaker 2>are often on the road, and you know, just ships

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<v Speaker 2>passing in the night. I guess you know you'll see

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be at a club and you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>poster like, oh, this month, they're having three people that

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<v Speaker 2>I love. I wish that I could say hi to them,

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<v Speaker 2>But you're just not at the same place at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time. You know, everybody's got their favorite work friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you're a comedian, they're usually spread across the

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<v Speaker 2>entire country on any given night. So when you have

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<v Speaker 2>a chance for people to be in the same place,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it is special. It's very fun.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you feeding the beast these days on social

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<v Speaker 1>media and up burning material? Are you doing crowd work

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<v Speaker 1>or how you handling that nightmare?

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<v Speaker 2>I will do. I mean, I do crowd work in

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<v Speaker 2>my act, but it is not set. It is not

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<v Speaker 2>like and now I'm getting my crowd work clip. I have.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's organic. And I don't always take the

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<v Speaker 2>sets I wish that I did, because I often will

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<v Speaker 2>was the most amazing moment. That would be such a

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<v Speaker 2>good clip, but I didn't record it, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>have to convince myself that is my integrity of the

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<v Speaker 2>art form that leads me to not record everything and

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<v Speaker 2>to let some things live in the only place that

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<v Speaker 2>they will ever be seen at that show, in that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>It's integrity. It's not laziness. That's how I feel about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't worry about burning material, not even a

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<v Speaker 2>a clip of every joke that's on it on the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>on real, on TikTok. Every single part of it will

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<v Speaker 2>repost them. It's a numbers game. I think I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, invented the I have to throw out this hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing a new hour, and I think it makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense if you are that level of famous where when

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<v Speaker 2>for me, for a lot of people that are forcing

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<v Speaker 2>themselves and making a big deal of not burning material,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can put jokes on the internet. Whoever

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<v Speaker 2>sees it is going to see it, and then if

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<v Speaker 2>they come to the show and they see you do

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<v Speaker 2>the joke, I don't think anyone's going to be furious

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<v Speaker 2>and demand their money back. In fact, more often than

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<v Speaker 2>people telling me I already heard that joke on the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>which has been never will complain that I didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>their favorite joke that they saw on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you running into helpful audience members who want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the crowd work?

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<v Speaker 2>And no, I'm not, no more than no more than

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<v Speaker 2>before you know. I mean there's always a rowdy audience

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<v Speaker 2>member from time to time, and as far as yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're talking about, like some comedians are saying,

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<v Speaker 2>these crowd work people are ruining comedy audiences because now

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<v Speaker 2>comedy audiences want to be a part of the show

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<v Speaker 2>and are trying to be a part of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's something I haven't found to be drue.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people still genuinely do not really want to

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<v Speaker 2>be talked to during the show. They want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>jokes and laugh. It's the reason why it's hardest to

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<v Speaker 2>see the front row at every comedy club because they

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be talked to.

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<v Speaker 1>There was just a big thing in the UK and

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<v Speaker 1>a theater a pretty big comedian had to throw out

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<v Speaker 1>two people from the same show because they would not

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<v Speaker 1>interrupting and he had to full stop and get security.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's got to be hard to get

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<v Speaker 1>the room back after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, that would be.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing that is good is that in the

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<v Speaker 2>situations I've been in where people had to be kicked out,

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<v Speaker 2>they were such a disturbance that by the time they

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<v Speaker 2>do kick them out. The thing that's not hard about

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<v Speaker 2>recovering is people are happy because I'm if any if

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<v Speaker 2>someone's getting kicked out of my show, it's not because

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<v Speaker 2>they pissed me off and I'm like, get this person

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<v Speaker 2>out of here. If someone is kicked out of my show,

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<v Speaker 2>they are being such a disruption to the other people

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<v Speaker 2>that paid the venue, is like, we need to remove

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<v Speaker 2>these people or else. Twenty people are going to complain

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<v Speaker 2>so often when someone is escorted out, there will be

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<v Speaker 2>a huge round of applause and the comedian will be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>aren't you glad those jerks are gone? And the show

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<v Speaker 2>rolls up on.

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<v Speaker 1>What's coming up for you in the next couple months?

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<v Speaker 1>What can we look forward to?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I am on the road for forever. I got

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<v Speaker 2>lots of shows coming up. You can see them all

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<v Speaker 2>at andy Woodhall dot com. Please watch the new special

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<v Speaker 2>Beach Brand on YouTube or listen to it wherever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>The difference between I should say this is the difference

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<v Speaker 2>between the YouTube version and the difference between the audio version,

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<v Speaker 2>is the audio version is edited because things need to

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<v Speaker 2>lead live and make sense as single jokes. If that

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<v Speaker 2>If that makes sense. Sure, So when you edit a

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<v Speaker 2>special together, I take any crowd work that happened out

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<v Speaker 2>for the audio version, I take out mistakes, I take

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<v Speaker 2>out this and that little things, and I thought a

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<v Speaker 2>fun way to do the YouTube which would maybe hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>set this apart from other people posting on YouTube is

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<v Speaker 2>I don't take any of that stuff out. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like seven minutes difference in time the audio version and

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<v Speaker 2>the YouTube version of mistakes and references and crowd work

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<v Speaker 2>and natural, organic moments that only happen when you see

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<v Speaker 2>live comedy. That's on the YouTube thing that's not in

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<v Speaker 2>the album version, because you know you programmed Serious, there's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be a track of guy drops his glass.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a waste, you know, for no one that anyone

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't there. That's not additive to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So also pro tip for all comedians putting out audio albums,

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<v Speaker 1>make your tracks about four and a half to five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes long. Those ninety second tracks, we don't schedule those.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that is great tips that you could be giving

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<v Speaker 2>out all those things that I have been told, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>four to five minutes. What else? I think comedians listening

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<v Speaker 2>would love to hear that, because I've been lucky enough

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<v Speaker 2>to have gotten these tips from people like you, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even directly from you through a third person, of

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<v Speaker 2>what you need to be thinking about when you're editing

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<v Speaker 2>stuff together in hopes of getting play on Serious.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, so you want, as you alluded to, you

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<v Speaker 1>want each track to be a complete Chunk's not the

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<v Speaker 1>right word, you know, I'm saying a complete thought. So

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<v Speaker 1>at a beginning and an ending to the individual track,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, the ninety second, they're too short. Anything

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<v Speaker 1>over seven is too long. Because you want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>things moving, having a clean version definitely helps. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the thing when I first took over programming, the Clean

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<v Speaker 1>Channel was way harder than the Naughty Channel because there

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<v Speaker 1>just wasn't the material and the stuff that was there

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, lame or God's Squad comedians that it

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't have the coolness factor. So we wound up

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<v Speaker 1>playing a lot of New Heart and Cosby and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>then the Cosby Library became something that you know that

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<v Speaker 1>so if you've got a clean version of something, that's

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<v Speaker 1>very valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>And somebody told me once when I was recording albums,

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<v Speaker 2>because I've always skewed clean, and there will be like

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<v Speaker 2>one or two just you know, adult jokes on the album,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe one or two curses, especially in my older albums.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it was somebody in a position like

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<v Speaker 2>yours that told me, you know, think about doing it

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<v Speaker 2>all clean and you wouldn't have to make a big

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<v Speaker 2>difference because we get like ten to one submissions for

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<v Speaker 2>the dirty channels versus the clean channels. Was it still

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<v Speaker 2>about that ratio or is that totally off?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I wish it were ten to one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you put out a clean alm or Nate

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<v Speaker 1>puts out a clean Apple, Gaffigan puts out something that's clean.

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<v Speaker 1>He has kind of at least on his album work.

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<v Speaker 1>He cursed a little more on his early work, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think the last few have been straight clean. That

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<v Speaker 1>is just gold. Like you know, a listers, I can

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<v Speaker 1>immediately schedule that's exactly what you want.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question for me, who's out there that might be

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<v Speaker 1>off the audience's radar, Funny people that we should know about.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if they're off people's radar or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but I always well list my friends. Pat McGann is

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<v Speaker 2>doing great. You can see if you've seen Sebastian Maniscalco

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<v Speaker 2>in the last couple of years, you probably saw Pat

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<v Speaker 2>McGann opening for him. He's so funny. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>friend Mike Cronin who is very funny that's opening for

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<v Speaker 2>me this weekend. Check him out. He's doing a YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>series right now about making one lash push to become

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<v Speaker 2>successful as a comedian, just like one last shot at it,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is pretty compelling and I'm jealous. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think of it, and I think, hands down the

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<v Speaker 2>funniest comedian that I've never seen, not kill that. People

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<v Speaker 2>maybe don't know about a guy named Kevin Boseman out

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<v Speaker 2>of Chicago, and he just is lights out funny. You

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<v Speaker 2>gotta see his live show. He never he always kills.

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<v Speaker 2>He always kills, no matter the situation. And yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's the guy I always say. You want me to

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<v Speaker 2>name a comedian you should check out that's not famous.

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<v Speaker 2>Check out Kevin Boseman.

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<v Speaker 1>Super awesome. Ho'm glad we got to catch up today.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate you coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks for having me, John, and I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to ignore the final night of

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<v Speaker 1>the Moontower Comedy Festival. If I counted correctly, they have

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine shows on their website. I won't mention them all.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about headliners and some of the catch my eye.

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<v Speaker 1>Zarni Gark four o'clock show at the Paramount Theater. That

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<v Speaker 1>might even be too early for me. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>like to go to bed early, but would be done

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<v Speaker 1>at five thirty. Big Jay Okerson special screening at the

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<v Speaker 1>State Theater, also at four o'clock today. What is this

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<v Speaker 1>clicks on link to read. I assume this is a

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<v Speaker 1>special screening of his upcoming crowd work special Them They,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what the cover art says, and apparently Them

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<v Speaker 1>They is out tomorrow on YouTube. You learn something new

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<v Speaker 1>every day. Industry types might like the panel who books

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<v Speaker 1>that at five pm. You're invited to join us for

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<v Speaker 1>a panel tailor to address the burning questions comedians often Pounder,

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<v Speaker 1>We've assembled a dream team of industry experts. It does

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<v Speaker 1>not tell us who these industry experts are. John Kablakani's

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<v Speaker 1>back at five point fifteen, James Austin Johnson at the

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<v Speaker 1>State Theater. At seven, David Nihill listed as a headliner.

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<v Speaker 1>Shelf Help Thompson Theater at seven the Moon Tower, all

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<v Speaker 1>stars are Saheb Singh, Austin Nassa and Amy Miller. At

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<v Speaker 1>seven o'clock at cap City, A friend of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>John Marco seven to fifteen, Creak in the Cave, Big

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<v Speaker 1>Jay working today. At eight fifteen he's at Vulcan doing

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<v Speaker 1>and evening of crowd work. Pete Holmes, He's fantastic. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've never seen Pete goc Pete live, there's an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>if you can make it to Austin by nine thirty pm.

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<v Speaker 1>He's at the Paramount Theater doing the PG thirteen tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Janine Garofolo haven't seen her do comedy in a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>stand up comedy. That is nine thirty at the Thompson Theater.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool. And a bunch of other shows to

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<v Speaker 1>round out the festival. And now I get to delete

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<v Speaker 1>the tab and get back some real estate on my

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<v Speaker 1>Safari browser. And that is your comedy news for today.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you enjoyed Andy again. His album is called Beach

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<v Speaker 1>Brain and it's streaming and there's an audio version. And

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<v Speaker 1>I will see you here tomorrow.