Speaker 1: Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your
Speaker 1: daily comedy news. I'm gonna jump right in today. I've
Speaker 1: got a guest in the first half. Then we'll take
Speaker 1: the break, and then i'll tell you a couple things
Speaker 1: on the comedy front. Andy Woodhole has a new album.
Speaker 1: It is called Beach Breen. It is his seventh comedy album.
Speaker 1: And here's my conversation with Andy. I was checking out
Speaker 1: your podcast and I loved that you went all inside
Speaker 1: baseball on the recording of the album. You told a
Speaker 1: great story about working in crowd laughter. I'll lead you,
Speaker 1: but I'd love for you to tell that story to
Speaker 1: my audience because I'm increasingly suspect of what I hear
Speaker 1: as laughs in Netflix specials. I've got an ear for it.
Speaker 1: Short story on me. I programmed serious XM comedy for
Speaker 1: ten years, so I sat at a desk listening to comedy.
Speaker 2: Rou Oh yeah, well, hey, thanks for playing me all
Speaker 2: those times.
Speaker 1: I'll come back and we'll talk about that a second.
Speaker 1: So for you know, ten years, I'm sitting there all
Speaker 1: day listening to the stuff, so I kind of know
Speaker 1: how audiences react, and I will hear stuff on some
Speaker 1: of these Netflix specials, and I'm like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: So could you just tell the anecdote that I'm sharing
Speaker 1: from your podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, what I think you're talking about is I did
Speaker 2: a recording called Live from Elkhart, which you can find,
Speaker 2: and I only had one shot at it. Sometimes you
Speaker 2: have multiple shots, so if you don't get a joke right,
Speaker 2: you can pull it from the next set, but this
Speaker 2: one I had one shot at it, So any mistakes
Speaker 2: I did, I would just say, hey, I'm made a mistake.
Speaker 2: I have to do that joke over. I hope you
Speaker 2: guys don't mind. And then so I flubbed this joke.
Speaker 2: You know, I said a wrong word here, a wrong
Speaker 2: word there, left something out, and then I did it right,
Speaker 2: and the audience clapped like I had just finished playing
Speaker 2: Freeberg or something. It was an insane reaction. And then
Speaker 2: when we went to the editing, it doesn't mean any
Speaker 2: sense that this joke is getting that level of laugh So,
Speaker 2: while I will swear never on any of my comedy
Speaker 2: albums have I had them ad laughs. That was a
Speaker 2: moment where I said, you have to take some of
Speaker 2: this laughing and clapping away because it seems fake. It
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: Are you running into clapter with audiences? I feel like
Speaker 1: that's something that's crept into the last ten years. There
Speaker 1: was one I don't want to throw anybody on a bus,
Speaker 1: but I was watching one comedian who is fantastic and
Speaker 1: he did this whole chunk and the audience clapped, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't I don't think that's what you're supposed.
Speaker 2: To do there, folks. No, I don't get a lot
Speaker 2: of it because I don't think that I am writing
Speaker 2: that type of joke. And if there's anyone that doesn't
Speaker 2: know what you mean by clapter, it's when a comedian
Speaker 2: will say something that the audience agrees with and they
Speaker 2: will clap. It's more right then it's funny, and it's
Speaker 2: you know, it engages audiences, and I don't know, I
Speaker 2: suppose has its place, but that's not what I attempt
Speaker 2: to deal in.
Speaker 1: What made you decide to go within audio album? I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, you know, in the year of the Netflix special,
Speaker 1: the YouTube special, and I still program comedy radio for
Speaker 1: Live one, it is great to have, you know, an
Speaker 1: old fashioned album.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, well it's not that. Let me give the
Speaker 2: most smart sounding decision. I guess, rather than everyone is
Speaker 2: putting out specials. There's all these specials that look amazing,
Speaker 2: they're highly produced, there's million dollar budgets. I am still
Speaker 2: basically a one man operation. Even though I did do
Speaker 2: this one with a comedy record label called Blonde Medicine,
Speaker 2: that are fantastic and they're putting out great comics and
Speaker 2: you should check them out and listen to everyone whose
Speaker 2: album they produce. But a million dollar production buzz it
Speaker 2: wasn't in the cards for me. So I thought to
Speaker 2: set my apart. I do something different. I do the
Speaker 2: audio album, which is how people have been finding my
Speaker 2: comedy for the whole time I've been doing comedy is
Speaker 2: through things like Serious and Pandora and Spotify, And as
Speaker 2: far as the video, it'll just be on YouTube and
Speaker 2: it'll just be a straight shots of camera. It's I
Speaker 2: didn't want to go halfway, you know. I could have
Speaker 2: spent a lot of my own money and I had
Speaker 2: a higher production value, but it wouldn't look as good
Speaker 2: as a Netflix special, and so I decided it is
Speaker 2: what it is. This is a side of the club,
Speaker 2: and if you want to see me doing it, you
Speaker 2: can see me doing it on YouTube, but otherwise it's
Speaker 2: it's audio.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting to me that you say that as
Speaker 1: a comedian, because one of the things where you've been
Speaker 1: struggling with in podcasting is this whole Hey, you gotta
Speaker 1: be on YouTube, you gotta make a video podcast. And
Speaker 1: I've struggled with it. Yeah, because for my audience who
Speaker 1: were watching this on YouTube, this is what the show
Speaker 1: looks like. This is what me recording the podcast looks like.
Speaker 1: It's not very interesting. I'm fifty five years old. I
Speaker 1: self describe him somewhere between Troll and George Clooney. You
Speaker 1: can pick, but you know, I'm not a sexy, hot
Speaker 1: chick in her twenties where everybody's gon be like, oh,
Speaker 1: let me just randomly click on this thumbnail. It's a
Speaker 1: guy with a dumb backdrop and doing comedy headlines. So
Speaker 1: you know, I love that. I don't. I don't love,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate that you're going through the same kind
Speaker 1: of struggle of I can't keep it with a Netflix budget,
Speaker 1: like I explain, and I also teach a college class.
Speaker 1: If I'm Andrew Schultz and I have a big time politician,
Speaker 1: and I've got a couch set up and a three
Speaker 1: camera shoot and proper lighting and a PR team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or videos awesome, but a guy in his basement it's
Speaker 1: really hard.
Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, low production as well. YouTube was supposed to be.
Speaker 1: That's what I think it was for a while.
Speaker 2: What it was supposed to be, and now it's it's
Speaker 2: great and those things are great, but now it's no
Speaker 2: longer as much do it yourself unless you want to
Speaker 2: just watch someone's AI edited video, which I I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. For the album Beach Breen, I was intrigued
Speaker 1: by the cover. I'm a Beach Boys fan, and there's
Speaker 1: definitely whoever put it together, and maybe you, hopefully you,
Speaker 1: because it'll make a more interesting conversation. Definitely went for
Speaker 1: that nineteen sixties album cover Vibe. The fonts are right,
Speaker 1: the colors are right. Where the where did the album
Speaker 1: cover come from?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll take partial credit for the album cover. A
Speaker 2: lot of the credit goes towards the good folks over
Speaker 2: there at Blonde Medicine, because this is the seventh time
Speaker 2: I've put out an album and I have never had
Speaker 2: a photo of myself on the cover because I always
Speaker 2: felt like when the guy is on the cover of
Speaker 2: the comedy album. You know, he's making a face.
Speaker 1: Like I hate that. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't know. You know, I never quite felt
Speaker 2: like what my face on a cover. So everyone I've
Speaker 2: done up until now has been an illustration, and I
Speaker 2: wanted to do an illustration again, and people at Blonde
Speaker 2: Medicine kind of pushed back a little bit, and they said,
Speaker 2: we think you've never had your face on the cover
Speaker 2: of an album. I think it's time to put your
Speaker 2: face on the cover of an album, especially because things
Speaker 2: I've done in the past that have been really popular.
Speaker 2: I look much younger, I don't have a beard. You know,
Speaker 2: people have a hard time even recognizing me from my
Speaker 2: own self from ten years ago. So they convinced me
Speaker 2: to do that. So there was a photo shoot, which
Speaker 2: was uncomfortable because it's in public. It's not like you're
Speaker 2: in a studio. Because I wanted to do it at
Speaker 2: the beach, so people are taking photos and I actually
Speaker 2: ran into this guy that I was just like a
Speaker 2: guy I casually say hi to walking my dog at
Speaker 2: the beach, and he saw the whole photo shoot and
Speaker 2: then asked me about it. It was incredibly embarrassing and yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I had the idea to set on
Speaker 2: the beach. I wore the outfit because it's an outfit
Speaker 2: my wife bought for me. I agree that I think
Speaker 2: it has a cool like beach boys vibe, But I
Speaker 2: can't take credit for the outfit. That's I just could
Speaker 2: rested by the woman that loves me at the time
Speaker 2: in my life, and I'm great with it. I like
Speaker 2: living that life, and so she gets the credit for
Speaker 2: the outfit. They get the credit for deciding to do
Speaker 2: a photo shoot, and I believe they also have a
Speaker 2: graphic designer in house that did the final design. But
Speaker 2: the photo on the beach with the beach stuff was
Speaker 2: was my idea?
Speaker 1: Is that Santa Monica?
Speaker 2: It is Santa Monica. Yeah, so you just.
Speaker 1: Walk out over there to a photo shooting, go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what it was. I walked from our
Speaker 2: apartment to the beach. I did a photo shoot in public,
Speaker 2: like I'm an Instagram model, and I was spotted by
Speaker 2: an acquaintance and it was incredibly embarrassing. And yeah, anyone
Speaker 2: that's had to get their photo taken just knows it's
Speaker 2: a little embarrassing to have, you know your photography, giant camera,
Speaker 2: they're inches away from your face. They always seem way
Speaker 2: closer than they need to be, and it's embarrassing in
Speaker 2: a studio. So I did mine publicly.
Speaker 1: The thing that caught my eye, and you can make
Speaker 1: fun of me in the schoolyard, and I know you
Speaker 1: agree to do this interview so that we could talk
Speaker 1: about the cover for twenty minutes. It is the Igloo
Speaker 1: cooler and I have one of those in red, but
Speaker 1: mine is from nineteen seventy six, and I know that
Speaker 1: because there's a bi centennial sticker on it that either
Speaker 1: my mom or I put on in seventy six. And
Speaker 1: as I was just thinking about this interview, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm hitting the beach with a forty nine year old cooler.
Speaker 2: But it works. Yeah, it's a great cooler. I think
Speaker 2: my wife and I liked it because of that kind
Speaker 2: of retro design and Easter egg on the album cover.
Speaker 2: That cooler is the first thing we ever bought together
Speaker 2: as a couple. We pitched in I think twenty dollars
Speaker 2: each and bought that forty dollars cooler. And if you
Speaker 2: zoom in tight, there's a sticker of my older specials
Speaker 2: on the cooler.
Speaker 1: Oh nice, and you're going to have.
Speaker 2: Century sings there? Yeah, I hope, so, I hope. So.
Speaker 1: So you talked about the royalties from digital play, which
Speaker 1: is a nice thing. I'll tell you a story is so,
Speaker 1: when I first started It's serious, the initial reaction from
Speaker 1: the comedians was you're stealing my material. Da da da da,
Speaker 1: And then people realized they were selling tickets off it.
Speaker 1: But then I was backstage with Ron White, who found
Speaker 1: out what I did for a living, and he was
Speaker 1: very happy to meet me because he had gotten a
Speaker 1: nice significant check with I think at least five zeros
Speaker 1: in it. So that guy rid of a whole like
Speaker 1: you're a stealing armt. Well that was because we had
Speaker 1: blue collar radios that we were playing every fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: But you know that that money's nice there. I wish
Speaker 1: more people would put out audio.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, yeah, well I think do people not always
Speaker 2: put out audio as well as video? I would think
Speaker 2: that every Netflix special has an audio version? Is that
Speaker 2: not correct?
Speaker 1: So then the Netflix thing is one of my pet
Speaker 1: peeves that again on the Soapbox, I personally wish Grammys
Speaker 1: would go to audio things and not Netflix specials. I
Speaker 1: think we oh yeah, Emmys for a Netflix special. So
Speaker 1: what Netflix will often do is they'll take something like
Speaker 1: Chappelle and they'll put it on vinyl and they'll sell
Speaker 1: it in the cool record store in Portland, and there's
Speaker 1: one hundred copies of it. But technically it's an album.
Speaker 1: But you know something, if you wanted to get you know,
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle's most recent special on a CD to drive
Speaker 1: around in your car. That's not a thing anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can get anyone. I mean
Speaker 2: even this one that I made that's audio only. I
Speaker 2: don't think you can get a CD anyway.
Speaker 1: Oh he lives along. I don't know. I I don't
Speaker 1: have a CD player in the car or the computer.
Speaker 1: I've probably got one in the back somewhere.
Speaker 2: But I sold CDs for a little bit longer than
Speaker 2: I should have, probably because the reason I stopped selling
Speaker 2: it because this is an easy thing to sell. After
Speaker 2: the show CD and the amount of people that just
Speaker 2: want to tell me they didn't have a CD player
Speaker 2: got to an amount where I decided to stop selling that.
Speaker 1: You don't want to embarrass yourself and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'll scan a QR code and it'll download.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I did that for a little while.
Speaker 2: I did that. I did do that for a while,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't that it was embarrassing. I felt that
Speaker 2: I wasn't giving people something. You know, it was like
Speaker 2: a paper and then I had like higher quality kind
Speaker 2: of plastic ones, but I still felt like, you know,
Speaker 2: if someone wants to buy something after a show, they
Speaker 2: want something, and the QR code, although it gets you
Speaker 2: to the album, and it works, and that's how people
Speaker 2: do things because things like Spotify and Pandora and serious
Speaker 2: are so popular and those albums are available for free,
Speaker 2: especially you know, the streaming services like Spotify and Apple
Speaker 2: Music where you can click and listen to it straight
Speaker 2: through whenever you want. I think you just weren't getting
Speaker 2: something when you did the QR codes, and I was
Speaker 2: sad to see the CDs go because now I have
Speaker 2: to lug around bags of T shirts to show after shows.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 1: You talked about your look changing over the years. Sometimes
Speaker 1: when I'm on the back end of stuff, I'll pull
Speaker 1: up a Naperghetti album and I'm so used to him
Speaker 1: with the salt and pepper hair that when I see
Speaker 1: the younger version of him on an album cover. I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what you look like. I mean, we all get older.
Speaker 1: You did one of his Nateland showcases.
Speaker 2: How is he?
Speaker 1: How was that? How's it working with that crew?
Speaker 2: They're really Yeah, they're very cool. I think they're doing
Speaker 2: a neat thing in comedy because comedy has transitioned to
Speaker 2: this online model, you know. I mean still like Netflix
Speaker 2: and Hulu now and other streaming services will be putting
Speaker 2: out specials and that's great and people are finding comedy
Speaker 2: like that. But comedy used to be on Comedy Central
Speaker 2: and on late night TV spots, and that's where you
Speaker 2: would find new comedians. And Comedy Central used to always
Speaker 2: have a show that would showcase people you haven't heard of.
Speaker 2: I think there was Premium Blend, and then the one
Speaker 2: I did was called Live at Gotham, and I think
Speaker 2: there was one after that, like Adam Devine's House Party
Speaker 2: or something like that, and it was this cool place
Speaker 2: where you could see a little taste of someone you've
Speaker 2: never seen before, and that person didn't have to already
Speaker 2: have a million followers to be in that position, and
Speaker 2: that has gone away. The TV has gone away from that,
Speaker 2: and so I think the coolest thing that Bargatsy is
Speaker 2: doing is through his own record label, production company whatever,
Speaker 2: he has recreated that show where he's introducing the world
Speaker 2: to comedians that are funny and otherwise don't have a
Speaker 2: platform other than you know, the platform that we all have,
Speaker 2: or we can put things on our own. But I
Speaker 2: think it's cool that he kind of picked up that ball,
Speaker 2: that premium blend Lavigotham ball and is rolling with it.
Speaker 2: And that's what Nyland it is, and of course it's
Speaker 2: a Bargatsi products, so everything is squeaky clean over there too,
Speaker 2: if that's what you're into.
Speaker 1: And I think that makes a lot of sense. I'm
Speaker 1: no prude. I like my share of the swear words.
Speaker 1: But I remember the first time I met Foxworthy and
Speaker 1: this is we're putting together blue Collar Radio, and he
Speaker 1: was explaining to me. He said, I used to you know,
Speaker 1: work the same way as everybody else. And he held
Speaker 1: his hands like this kind of close together, and he said,
Speaker 1: and then I stopped cursing, and I picked up the
Speaker 1: kids and the grandmothers and he stretched his arms and
Speaker 1: that was his whole mindset. You know. I think the
Speaker 1: the art of working clean is if you don't notice it,
Speaker 1: you've nailed it.
Speaker 2: I totally agree. I don't. I mean, I have been
Speaker 2: clean for several years now as far as my stand up,
Speaker 2: and I don't necessarily like advertising the shows as clean
Speaker 2: shows because I think that comes with kind of a
Speaker 2: stigma of boring. If you tell me, do you want
Speaker 2: to watch this clean comedian? I don't, but I will
Speaker 2: watch someone like Ryan Hamilton who is clean, and then
Speaker 2: you don't. It doesn't even hate you tell somebody brings
Speaker 2: it up. Oh yeah, he didn't curse. Oh yeah, And
Speaker 2: that's what I hope people are saying after they listen
Speaker 2: to this new album or the last couple albums that
Speaker 2: I've made.
Speaker 1: And I think there's an effect too if you were
Speaker 1: mostly clean and a well placed swear word, that can
Speaker 1: really just you know, punch a joke for affect, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree with that too. It really
Speaker 2: uh yeah, it's fun to have one curse in the set. Yeah,
Speaker 2: nobody's mad about one curse. You can curse once and
Speaker 2: people won't say that it was filthy.
Speaker 1: I like your podcast. It's nice and easy on the ears.
Speaker 1: It appears to be an actual backyard and not a
Speaker 1: set because.
Speaker 2: You guys are cold, it is and we are cold.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it is. It's Tommy Johnigan's backyard and it's comedians
Speaker 2: hanging out. We each bring different topics. We have some
Speaker 2: recurring segments and honestly, my favorite thing is those are
Speaker 2: two of my best friends, Tommy and Alex Stone, and
Speaker 2: doing the podcast gives us a reason that we have
Speaker 2: to get together at least once a week, and it's
Speaker 2: pretty great.
Speaker 1: Is everybody good about holding to the schedule, because that's
Speaker 1: one of the pains of doing a podcast with somebody else,
Speaker 1: you know, Oh, I'm not around well.
Speaker 2: You know for sure? Yeah, for sure. There'll be times
Speaker 2: when people are busy and we'll have people fill in,
Speaker 2: or just two of us will do it when we can.
Speaker 2: But I would say for the most part, we're able
Speaker 2: to always get together and we usually record on Sunday
Speaker 2: or Monday, and we usually don't decide until sometimes Sunday
Speaker 2: afternoon when it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Be About two weeks ago, you did that Rhode Island,
Speaker 1: that Rhode Island Festival Roady I think it was called.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Little Roady Comedy Festival.
Speaker 1: There that looked like it was awesome. How was that?
Speaker 2: It was very cool? You know, they put together such
Speaker 2: a cool, very cool festival, and it was great for
Speaker 2: the comics. My only regret is that I could go
Speaker 2: for the whole thing. I was just kind of in
Speaker 2: and out. I was only able to make it on
Speaker 2: the day for my show and then I left the
Speaker 2: next day. But yeah, they put together amazing an amazing thing,
Speaker 2: and it is just so fun to be involved in
Speaker 2: something with people that care about comedy and love comedy,
Speaker 2: because you know I do. I love I love stand up.
Speaker 2: I love doing stand up. I feel so lucky to
Speaker 2: get to be doing stand up. And sometimes you do
Speaker 2: a show and it's all about how many tickets did
Speaker 2: you sell? What was it that? Why? Bye bye? I
Speaker 2: don't know who even knows what I'm saying. And these
Speaker 2: people just genuinely love stand up and you can tell
Speaker 2: that by how they put the shows together and how
Speaker 2: they treated the comedians.
Speaker 1: At a festival where we have more time, do you
Speaker 1: go see other people's shows or is it more about
Speaker 1: hanging with the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I are to do yeah, yeah, because somebody,
Speaker 2: you know, we've been doing comedy for a long time,
Speaker 2: so uh, you know, any given festival, you're gonna know
Speaker 2: some people, be friends with some people. There's gonna be
Speaker 2: some people that you will become friends with if you
Speaker 2: have a chance to hang out with them. And there's
Speaker 2: usually hangs after the shows or like events during the day,
Speaker 2: and plenty of time for people to get together that
Speaker 2: are often on the road, and you know, just ships
Speaker 2: passing in the night. I guess you know you'll see
Speaker 2: You'll be at a club and you look at the
Speaker 2: poster like, oh, this month, they're having three people that
Speaker 2: I love. I wish that I could say hi to them,
Speaker 2: But you're just not at the same place at the
Speaker 2: same time. You know, everybody's got their favorite work friends,
Speaker 2: and when you're a comedian, they're usually spread across the
Speaker 2: entire country on any given night. So when you have
Speaker 2: a chance for people to be in the same place,
Speaker 2: it's it is special. It's very fun.
Speaker 1: How are you feeding the beast these days on social
Speaker 1: media and up burning material? Are you doing crowd work
Speaker 1: or how you handling that nightmare?
Speaker 2: I will do. I mean, I do crowd work in
Speaker 2: my act, but it is not set. It is not
Speaker 2: like and now I'm getting my crowd work clip. I have.
Speaker 2: You know, it's organic. And I don't always take the
Speaker 2: sets I wish that I did, because I often will
Speaker 2: have a moment where I think, oh my god, that
Speaker 2: was the most amazing moment. That would be such a
Speaker 2: good clip, but I didn't record it, and then I
Speaker 2: have to convince myself that is my integrity of the
Speaker 2: art form that leads me to not record everything and
Speaker 2: to let some things live in the only place that
Speaker 2: they will ever be seen at that show, in that moment.
Speaker 2: It's integrity. It's not laziness. That's how I feel about it.
Speaker 2: And I don't worry about burning material, not even a
Speaker 2: little bit, not even not even a little bit. I
Speaker 2: have this new special beach Brain. I'm going to put
Speaker 2: a clip of every joke that's on it on the internet,
Speaker 2: on real, on TikTok. Every single part of it will
Speaker 2: be a clip. At some point. I think I'll probably
Speaker 2: repost them. It's a numbers game. I think I'm not
Speaker 2: the first person to have this point of view. I
Speaker 2: don't think, but I think Louis c. K years and
Speaker 2: years ago, invented the I have to throw out this hour.
Speaker 2: I'm doing a new hour, and I think it makes
Speaker 2: sense if you are that level of famous where when
Speaker 2: you put something online, twenty million people see it. But
Speaker 2: for me, for a lot of people that are forcing
Speaker 2: themselves and making a big deal of not burning material,
Speaker 2: I think you can put jokes on the internet. Whoever
Speaker 2: sees it is going to see it, and then if
Speaker 2: they come to the show and they see you do
Speaker 2: the joke, I don't think anyone's going to be furious
Speaker 2: and demand their money back. In fact, more often than
Speaker 2: people telling me I already heard that joke on the internet,
Speaker 2: which has been never will complain that I didn't do
Speaker 2: their favorite joke that they saw on the internet.
Speaker 1: Are you running into helpful audience members who want to
Speaker 1: be the crowd work?
Speaker 2: And no, I'm not, no more than no more than
Speaker 2: before you know. I mean there's always a rowdy audience
Speaker 2: member from time to time, and as far as yeah,
Speaker 2: I know you're talking about, like some comedians are saying,
Speaker 2: these crowd work people are ruining comedy audiences because now
Speaker 2: comedy audiences want to be a part of the show
Speaker 2: and are trying to be a part of the show.
Speaker 2: And that's that's something I haven't found to be drue.
Speaker 2: I think people still genuinely do not really want to
Speaker 2: be talked to during the show. They want to hear
Speaker 2: jokes and laugh. It's the reason why it's hardest to
Speaker 2: see the front row at every comedy club because they
Speaker 2: don't want to be talked to.
Speaker 1: There was just a big thing in the UK and
Speaker 1: a theater a pretty big comedian had to throw out
Speaker 1: two people from the same show because they would not
Speaker 1: interrupting and he had to full stop and get security.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's got to be hard to get
Speaker 1: the room back after that.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that would be.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: The one thing that is good is that in the
Speaker 2: situations I've been in where people had to be kicked out,
Speaker 2: they were such a disturbance that by the time they
Speaker 2: do kick them out. The thing that's not hard about
Speaker 2: recovering is people are happy because I'm if any if
Speaker 2: someone's getting kicked out of my show, it's not because
Speaker 2: they pissed me off and I'm like, get this person
Speaker 2: out of here. If someone is kicked out of my show,
Speaker 2: they are being such a disruption to the other people
Speaker 2: that paid the venue, is like, we need to remove
Speaker 2: these people or else. Twenty people are going to complain
Speaker 2: so often when someone is escorted out, there will be
Speaker 2: a huge round of applause and the comedian will be like, hey,
Speaker 2: aren't you glad those jerks are gone? And the show
Speaker 2: rolls up on.
Speaker 1: What's coming up for you in the next couple months?
Speaker 1: What can we look forward to?
Speaker 2: Well, I am on the road for forever. I got
Speaker 2: lots of shows coming up. You can see them all
Speaker 2: at andy Woodhall dot com. Please watch the new special
Speaker 2: Beach Brand on YouTube or listen to it wherever you want.
Speaker 2: The difference between I should say this is the difference
Speaker 2: between the YouTube version and the difference between the audio version,
Speaker 2: is the audio version is edited because things need to
Speaker 2: lead live and make sense as single jokes. If that
Speaker 2: If that makes sense. Sure, So when you edit a
Speaker 2: special together, I take any crowd work that happened out
Speaker 2: for the audio version, I take out mistakes, I take
Speaker 2: out this and that little things, and I thought a
Speaker 2: fun way to do the YouTube which would maybe hopefully
Speaker 2: set this apart from other people posting on YouTube is
Speaker 2: I don't take any of that stuff out. So it's
Speaker 2: like seven minutes difference in time the audio version and
Speaker 2: the YouTube version of mistakes and references and crowd work
Speaker 2: and natural, organic moments that only happen when you see
Speaker 2: live comedy. That's on the YouTube thing that's not in
Speaker 2: the album version, because you know you programmed Serious, there's
Speaker 2: not going to be a track of guy drops his glass.
Speaker 2: That's a waste, you know, for no one that anyone
Speaker 2: that wasn't there. That's not additive to the show.
Speaker 1: So also pro tip for all comedians putting out audio albums,
Speaker 1: make your tracks about four and a half to five
Speaker 1: minutes long. Those ninety second tracks, we don't schedule those.
Speaker 2: Oh that is great tips that you could be giving
Speaker 2: out all those things that I have been told, Yeah,
Speaker 2: four to five minutes. What else? I think comedians listening
Speaker 2: would love to hear that, because I've been lucky enough
Speaker 2: to have gotten these tips from people like you, or
Speaker 2: maybe even directly from you through a third person, of
Speaker 2: what you need to be thinking about when you're editing
Speaker 2: stuff together in hopes of getting play on Serious.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, so you want, as you alluded to, you
Speaker 1: want each track to be a complete Chunk's not the
Speaker 1: right word, you know, I'm saying a complete thought. So
Speaker 1: at a beginning and an ending to the individual track,
Speaker 1: Like I said, the ninety second, they're too short. Anything
Speaker 1: over seven is too long. Because you want to keep
Speaker 1: things moving, having a clean version definitely helps. That was
Speaker 1: the thing when I first took over programming, the Clean
Speaker 1: Channel was way harder than the Naughty Channel because there
Speaker 1: just wasn't the material and the stuff that was there
Speaker 1: was you know, lame or God's Squad comedians that it
Speaker 1: just didn't have the coolness factor. So we wound up
Speaker 1: playing a lot of New Heart and Cosby and you know,
Speaker 1: then the Cosby Library became something that you know that
Speaker 1: so if you've got a clean version of something, that's
Speaker 1: very valuable.
Speaker 2: And somebody told me once when I was recording albums,
Speaker 2: because I've always skewed clean, and there will be like
Speaker 2: one or two just you know, adult jokes on the album,
Speaker 2: maybe one or two curses, especially in my older albums.
Speaker 2: And you know, it was somebody in a position like
Speaker 2: yours that told me, you know, think about doing it
Speaker 2: all clean and you wouldn't have to make a big
Speaker 2: difference because we get like ten to one submissions for
Speaker 2: the dirty channels versus the clean channels. Was it still
Speaker 2: about that ratio or is that totally off?
Speaker 1: I think I wish it were ten to one. I mean,
Speaker 1: like if you put out a clean alm or Nate
Speaker 1: puts out a clean Apple, Gaffigan puts out something that's clean.
Speaker 1: He has kind of at least on his album work.
Speaker 1: He cursed a little more on his early work, but
Speaker 1: I think the last few have been straight clean. That
Speaker 1: is just gold. Like you know, a listers, I can
Speaker 1: immediately schedule that's exactly what you want.
Speaker 2: It's interesting.
Speaker 1: Last question for me, who's out there that might be
Speaker 1: off the audience's radar, Funny people that we should know about.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they're off people's radar or not,
Speaker 2: but I always well list my friends. Pat McGann is
Speaker 2: doing great. You can see if you've seen Sebastian Maniscalco
Speaker 2: in the last couple of years, you probably saw Pat
Speaker 2: McGann opening for him. He's so funny. I have a
Speaker 2: friend Mike Cronin who is very funny that's opening for
Speaker 2: me this weekend. Check him out. He's doing a YouTube
Speaker 2: series right now about making one lash push to become
Speaker 2: successful as a comedian, just like one last shot at it,
Speaker 2: which I think is pretty compelling and I'm jealous. I
Speaker 2: didn't think of it, and I think, hands down the
Speaker 2: funniest comedian that I've never seen, not kill that. People
Speaker 2: maybe don't know about a guy named Kevin Boseman out
Speaker 2: of Chicago, and he just is lights out funny. You
Speaker 2: gotta see his live show. He never he always kills.
Speaker 2: He always kills, no matter the situation. And yeah, that's
Speaker 2: that's the guy I always say. You want me to
Speaker 2: name a comedian you should check out that's not famous.
Speaker 2: Check out Kevin Boseman.
Speaker 1: Super awesome. Ho'm glad we got to catch up today.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me, John, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to ignore the final night of
Speaker 1: the Moontower Comedy Festival. If I counted correctly, they have
Speaker 1: thirty nine shows on their website. I won't mention them all.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about headliners and some of the catch my eye.
Speaker 1: Zarni Gark four o'clock show at the Paramount Theater. That
Speaker 1: might even be too early for me. I mean, I
Speaker 1: like to go to bed early, but would be done
Speaker 1: at five thirty. Big Jay Okerson special screening at the
Speaker 1: State Theater, also at four o'clock today. What is this
Speaker 1: clicks on link to read. I assume this is a
Speaker 1: special screening of his upcoming crowd work special Them They,
Speaker 1: because that's what the cover art says, and apparently Them
Speaker 1: They is out tomorrow on YouTube. You learn something new
Speaker 1: every day. Industry types might like the panel who books
Speaker 1: that at five pm. You're invited to join us for
Speaker 1: a panel tailor to address the burning questions comedians often Pounder,
Speaker 1: We've assembled a dream team of industry experts. It does
Speaker 1: not tell us who these industry experts are. John Kablakani's
Speaker 1: back at five point fifteen, James Austin Johnson at the
Speaker 1: State Theater. At seven, David Nihill listed as a headliner.
Speaker 1: Shelf Help Thompson Theater at seven the Moon Tower, all
Speaker 1: stars are Saheb Singh, Austin Nassa and Amy Miller. At
Speaker 1: seven o'clock at cap City, A friend of the show,
Speaker 1: John Marco seven to fifteen, Creak in the Cave, Big
Speaker 1: Jay working today. At eight fifteen he's at Vulcan doing
Speaker 1: and evening of crowd work. Pete Holmes, He's fantastic. If
Speaker 1: you've never seen Pete goc Pete live, there's an opportunity
Speaker 1: if you can make it to Austin by nine thirty pm.
Speaker 1: He's at the Paramount Theater doing the PG thirteen tour.
Speaker 1: Janine Garofolo haven't seen her do comedy in a long time,
Speaker 1: stand up comedy. That is nine thirty at the Thompson Theater.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. And a bunch of other shows to
Speaker 1: round out the festival. And now I get to delete
Speaker 1: the tab and get back some real estate on my
Speaker 1: Safari browser. And that is your comedy news for today.
Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed Andy again. His album is called Beach
Speaker 1: Brain and it's streaming and there's an audio version. And
Speaker 1: I will see you here tomorrow.