WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.040 KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp The 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:10.039 House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. This 3 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:15.080 very program, you know, is also what is known commonly 4 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:19.199 as the House Whisper podcast that you can listen to anytime, 5 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:24.239 anywhere on demand, hundreds of episodes, all searchable by topic. 6 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:29.079 It is truly a home improvement reference library waiting for 7 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:32.960 you wherever your favorite podcasts are found, of course on 8 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:36.280 the free iHeart Radio app, but also anywhere else that 9 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:39.439 you listen to your podcast, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, you name it, 10 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:43.320 we're there. 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You can book an in 22 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:21.400 home design consult with me and Tea even if you 23 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:25.040 live out of state. Oh we have our ways, yes 24 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:27.799 we do so no matter where you live, within the 25 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:31.159 sound of my voice, you can book an in home 26 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:36.519 design consult with us. Just go to house Whisperer dot design. 27 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:39.519 All right, we are in the midst of an all 28 00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:44.719 calls Sunday morning. I am so enjoying just talking to 29 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:48.239 you as we just cover whatever it is that you 30 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:50.280 want to talk about regarding your home. Let's go back 31 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:53.000 to the phones. I want to talk to Bob. Hey, Bob, 32 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:54.079 welcome home. 33 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:59.000 You steed look at the risk of boring your listeners 34 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:02.439 about these airs, my friend. 35 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:06.000 No, no, we will talk forever about these until every 36 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:07.760 home in southern California has them. 37 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:10.479 So I'm on and it scares me to death just 38 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:13.120 looking at these things. But I also have a crawl 39 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:16.479 space with crawl space vents that are about, I don't know, 40 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:19.039 a foot off the deck and there's so many of them. 41 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:20.039 Is that not a fear? 42 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.520 Oh yeah, same same same concern. Event event is event 43 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:29.199 is event the same concern and uh uh and uh yeah, 44 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:31.879 So you head on over to uh, you know, my 45 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:35.560 buddies at brand guard Vents brandguardvents dot com. There are 46 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:38.919 partners on the show. Brand guard makes all vents for 47 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:42.280 your house, Okay, garage vents on your front of your 48 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:45.520 garage door, the vent on the bottom of your water 49 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:50.039 heater cabinet if it's outside. What you're talking about are 50 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:52.360 there's two different kinds of events that we say there. 51 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:55.599 There is the foundation vents. If you have a raised 52 00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:59.680 foundation house, then you've got foundation vents all around the 53 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:03.199 premier of your house. There are different sizes. There are 54 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:06.599 a couple of common sizes out there in terms of 55 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:10.759 foundation vents, you know that are sort of typical sizes. 56 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:13.360 They have those, you know in stock like if you've 57 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:16.400 got a standard six by fourteen or an eight by 58 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:19.479 sixteen side, those are the most common size foundation events. 59 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:23.599 But if yours is an odd size, they'll custom make 60 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:27.719 the event for that covering right there, for that penetration. 61 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:30.919 So yeah, for those of you who have sub floors, 62 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:34.680 I meaning crawl spaces under your house, absolutely all the 63 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:36.080 vents on the house. 64 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:37.680 It is a. 65 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:41.759 Small, small investment, a small price to pay to fire 66 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:44.960 harden your home in the most important way possible. And yes, 67 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:48.400 also the crawl space access vent the one that you 68 00:03:48.439 --> 00:03:50.479 actually remove to get under the house. 69 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:52.479 All of them, all of those are all. 70 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:56.879 Available from brand Guard, and yeah, you should change them 71 00:03:56.919 --> 00:03:58.280 all out. Now, if you live on a slab, you 72 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:01.360 don't have to worry about stuff down below. But just 73 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:04.319 add events and events and all of that. But yeah, Bob, 74 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:06.479 they make them all great. 75 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:07.840 Thank you for your help, appreciate it. 76 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:12.800 You are very welcome, my friend. Let's start another call, 77 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.479 shall we? Let's start one way. I won't be able 78 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:19.360 to finish it because I'm gonna stay on time. Here Melody, 79 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:26.759 welcome home. Hello, Hello, Oh. 80 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:32.800 Yeah, Dan, I have I'm trying to repurpose an old 81 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:39.720 upright piano and I want to separate the section that 82 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:45.199 holds all the chords from the back panel which supports 83 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:50.360 the chord panel. Now it's an antique piano, so it's 84 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:55.000 quite old. And if the two panels are glued together 85 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:59.720 and I dissolve, I'm trying to figure out how I 86 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:04.399 can separate the back panel from the chord panel, which 87 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:09.480 currently is glued on. Is there any way I can 88 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:11.199 dissolve the glue. 89 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:16.399 In order to finish this restoration? 90 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:22.120 Yes, Well, because I don't need the back panel, I 91 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:28.000 want to. I want to repurpose the panel that holds 92 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:33.920 the cords because the cords are copper, and I want 93 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:38.120 to make the back panel black and the cords the copper. 94 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:40.959 And of course I want to put that at a 95 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:41.759 piece of art. 96 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:49.680 So gotcha, gotcha, got right. So I'm we're right at 97 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:51.639 the brake line right now. So I'm gonna pop you 98 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:54.560 on hold you've been holding already from the popy hold 99 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:56.920 and and I'm gonna answer this question on the other 100 00:05:56.959 --> 00:05:59.600 side of the brake and probably expanded into a slightly 101 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:03.160 larger topic, and that is, you know, how do you 102 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:05.240 how do you even find out where to even begin 103 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:09.920 to look to find out how to do the opposite 104 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:10.600 of what most. 105 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:11.600 People want with gluing? 106 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:14.600 When when the when glue gets mentioned, we want to 107 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:17.120 stick things together, but what if there's glue already there 108 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:19.759 and we want to pull it apart? We will answer 109 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.319 that right on the other side of the break. So Melody, 110 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:26.000 you hang tight and the rest of you. Here's a treat. 111 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:30.120 You're listening to home with Dean Sharp on demand from 112 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:31.759 KFI A M six forty. 113 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:37.959 Thanks for joining us on the program today. Southern California. 114 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:44.800 You are experiencing cold, rainy weather. Thank goodness, celebrate it, 115 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:49.800 enjoy it, indulge in it today because it's gonna help. 116 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:52.199 It's gonna help every single fire, which we've already turned 117 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:53.879 the corner on these fires. 118 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:54.800 But it's going to help. 119 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:57.439 And hopefully it doesn't come down so much in so 120 00:06:57.639 --> 00:06:59.959 fast that it will end up hurting and moving soil 121 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:03.000 because of what the fires have done. But just let's 122 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:05.920 embrace it. Let's embrace the wind for the moment, shall we. 123 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:08.480 We're taking a pause from all the craziness of the 124 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:12.480 last three weeks and just having an open calls all 125 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:16.360 calls Sunday. You set the agenda for the show, loving it, 126 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:17.959 loving talking. 127 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:19.319 To you as I always do. 128 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:23.279 I've got Melody on hold and the melody are you 129 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:23.959 still with me? 130 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:28.959 I'm still here here the. 131 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:29.439 There she is, all right. 132 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:33.439 So, right before the break, Melody was explaining that she's 133 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:36.079 got a project in the works on an old piano 134 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:42.199 that she's wanting to repurpose some portions of it, and 135 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:46.399 she needs to figure out how to separate the Now, 136 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:48.839 is it actually the frame that holds the strings that 137 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:51.399 you're trying to separate from a wood panel that's glued 138 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:52.079 to it is that? 139 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:53.040 Did I get that right? 140 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:59.639 That's correct? Yeah, it's an old upright. So the support 141 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:07.199 panel is framed by authentic two by fours really two 142 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:11.439 inches by four inches? Yeah, right right, you know, and 143 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:16.240 that's covered with uh some type of plywood. That then 144 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:22.680 that frame attaches to the frame holding all of the piano. 145 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:25.480 Chords right, all the strings. 146 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:26.240 So that's the. 147 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:29.439 Part that needs to be separated because it would be 148 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:34.639 so heavy. It's heavy as it is, but I want 149 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:38.480 to reduce the weight so I can put this thing 150 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:39.519 up on the wall. 151 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:44.039 I got you, all right, So you're you're trying to 152 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:47.000 actually just get the get the frame out of there, 153 00:08:47.080 --> 00:08:49.279 get the harp portion, the cords out of there. 154 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:55.799 Not the cords are attached to a panel, and that 155 00:08:56.039 --> 00:09:02.679 panel is then attached to another support panel, and it's 156 00:09:02.759 --> 00:09:07.039 the supporting panel I want to separate from the panel 157 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:12.200 that is the cords are affixed too. 158 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:16.159 Right right, All right, Well, you have a challenge ahead 159 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:20.919 of you. It's not impossible. Sometimes when things are incredibly 160 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:28.840 well adhered together, they are incredibly difficult to separate, especially 161 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.480 when you don't have access to be able to dip 162 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:35.600 them or soak them in a solvent. But I'm not 163 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.480 saying that it can't be done, but you're going to 164 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:42.519 have to just sort of experiment with it. Chances are, 165 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:46.320 now this is a broad brushing of the subject, Chances are, 166 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:50.600 in that situation the solvent that you're looking for, and 167 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:53.159 a solvent is what we're talking about, that would be 168 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:58.200 the definition of a chemical that would dissolve another chemical property. 169 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:01.440 A solvent that you're looking for there is very very 170 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:06.519 likely going to be acetone. Okay, probably nine times out 171 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:09.519 of ten. When it comes to wood furniture and instruments, 172 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:13.399 acetone is going to be the key to dissolving the 173 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:16.559 glues that hold them together. Acetone does a good job 174 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.159 of dissolving most wood glues. Acetone also does a great 175 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:24.919 job of dissolving metal to wood epoxies when there's a 176 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:27.679 metal to wood connection that has to be dissolved away. 177 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:34.279 And so that would be my general suggestion is acetone 178 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:38.279 also rubbing alcohol, but rubbing alcohol likely will not be 179 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:42.120 as potent. The trick when it comes to this, it's 180 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:45.720 not about severity of the chemical that we're using. It 181 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:51.720 is just literally chemistry. It's chemistry, and so you know, 182 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:56.759 sometimes water is the best solvent to separate two things, 183 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.240 and you think, oh, well, water is not powerful. 184 00:10:59.279 --> 00:10:59.960 Oh, yes it is. 185 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:04.519 It's all about does the particular molecular structure of this 186 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:08.559 chemical interact with the molecular structure of the other chemical 187 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:11.440 in a way that breaks the bonds apart. Okay, it 188 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:14.320 doesn't have to necessarily be caustic, although most of the 189 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:19.559 time they tend to be somewhat caustic. So anyway, all 190 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:23.720 of that to say, I'm thinking in your situation that 191 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:31.039 you carefully attempt to start working those seams with acetone, 192 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:35.519 acetone and anything that you can carefully pry in between 193 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.159 the two panels in order to let the acetone penetrate 194 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:43.080 deeper along the seam or the face of the glued surface. 195 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:48.679 You'd probably see your best results that way. Acetone rubbing alcohol. 196 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:51.159 I would go with the acetone first and just be 197 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:55.399 super careful and super safe as you handle it. The 198 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:57.559 other thing that I wanted to bring up to everybody 199 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:01.240 is a little secret weapon of mine. Are you ready? 200 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:04.320 Are you ready for this? Since Melody raised the question 201 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:08.759 of glues, how do you know? How do you know 202 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:09.679 what to do with what? 203 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:10.120 Well? 204 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:15.000 You kind of reverse engineer this thing Okay, you reverse 205 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:19.159 engineered in the sense of like whether if you're trying 206 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:21.039 to separate a thing, you've got to figure out how 207 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:25.720 they likely glued it in the first place. And also 208 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:28.759 if you're just interested in it hearing something one thing 209 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:32.000 to another, and we should do an adhesive We're going 210 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:34.720 to do an adhesive show soon in the next few weeks. 211 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:36.440 We're going to do We're going to bring back an 212 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:39.600 adhesive show and a tape show because it's so helpful 213 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:44.120 for people. But anyway, here is an invaluable website. I 214 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:48.480 love it. It's called this to that, This to that 215 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:53.519 dot com? As in, how do I attach this to that? Okay, 216 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:56.440 this to that dot com? I literally couldn't tell you 217 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:57.200 right at the moment. 218 00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:57.679 I can't. 219 00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:02.000 I don't remember who put this together. Some rocket scientists somewhere, 220 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:05.320 some chemical engineers. Anyway, here's what you do. Here's what 221 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:07.399 you find when you go to this to that dot com. 222 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.639 You get there and right at the top it says 223 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:14.360 this to that and it says I'm reading it right 224 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:16.799 off the website because people have a need to glue 225 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:20.360 things to other things. And then there are pulled down 226 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:23.159 menus and it says attach and then there's a blank 227 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:29.600 here and there's a pulldown bar ceramic, fabric, glass, leather, metal, paper, plastic, rubber. 228 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:33.679 So let's say, like if I wanted to attach leather, 229 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:39.480 and then it says two another thing. Let's just say glass, 230 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:43.519 attach leather to glass, and then you press the button. 231 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:47.559 Let's glue, and guess what we get leather to glass. 232 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:52.120 For the strongest bond, we recommend general electric silicone two. 233 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:57.159 Also see potentially seal all or household goop or for 234 00:13:57.240 --> 00:14:02.679 a non toxic alternative weld bond. Oh my gosh, right, 235 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.840 all of that information. So in Melody's case, here this 236 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:10.919 is what I actually did during the break. I'm like, 237 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:12.960 you know what, I think it's acetone, but I'm going 238 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:14.759 to go to this to that. And so what I 239 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:16.799 went is I went in and I put in a 240 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:19.559 couple of options of how to attach to this to that, 241 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:23.279 found the adhesives that are most likely used, and then 242 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:25.519 all I have to do is kind of do a 243 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:30.799 reverse question. And that is what solvent out there breaks 244 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:34.679 down these most common adhesives, and that's where we arrived 245 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:38.639 at actone. And there you have it. So I'm showing 246 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:40.639 you how the sausage is made a little bit here. 247 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:44.120 But I'm also giving you this great great or resource 248 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:49.200 this to that dot com. Oh the fun you can 249 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:55.000 have there. All right, y'all, Melody, thank you for your call. 250 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:58.919 Good luck on that project. Sounds fascinating and awesome. Please 251 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:02.480 send me a pick when you are done more of 252 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:05.559 your calls when we return your Home with Dean Sharp 253 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:06.399 the House Whisper. 254 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:10.519 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 255 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:12.399 KFI AM six forty. 256 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:16.759 Your Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. It is 257 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:23.759 a beautifully rainy, cool Southern California Sunday morning. I am 258 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:28.360 as always honored to be spending time with you on 259 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:33.279 this morning, and we're taking nothing but calls all weekend 260 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:37.080 long here just because man, I just love talking to you, 261 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:39.639 helping you out with your house, and we're just taking 262 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:44.399 a breather from the flood of information that you've heard 263 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:47.200 from us over the last few weeks fire wise, and 264 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:50.120 I'm totally down for talking fires, by the way, but 265 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:53.600 also anything else, just so that we can all just 266 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:56.879 breathe deep this morning, enjoy the fact that mother nature 267 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:59.399 has showed up and said okay, that's enough enough of that, 268 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:01.519 let's go back to the phones. 269 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:04.279 I want to talk to Jeff. Hey, Jeff, welcome home. 270 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:08.919 Oh wise, Dean, I hope you can help me with 271 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:11.080 my greatest frustration at home improvement. 272 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:13.960 Oh no, See, when you start like that, you're just 273 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:15.159 setting me up for failure. 274 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:20.440 No, I don't think so. So if you take sandpaper 275 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:24.840 to wood, you get fine sawdust and you get smooth wood. 276 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:27.799 What's upon a time we used to paint walls and 277 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:30.759 if you take sandpaper to it, you'd have a similar result. 278 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:34.559 But now that we coat our walls with plastic, you 279 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:38.159 stand that and it melts the plastic and you get 280 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:41.440 really bad results instead of smooth walls. So what do 281 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:41.639 you do? 282 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:44.799 Well, what do you do? 283 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:45.399 Uh? 284 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:48.759 So you ease up on the sanding, is what you do. 285 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.679 So I'm assuming that what we're setting up here is 286 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:56.919 the idea that you've got acrylic based or latex based 287 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:00.720 paints on the walls, and you know, they have a 288 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:04.200 rubbery sort of you know, plastic key aspect to them. 289 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:07.440 They're not all lead based paints like in the good 290 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:09.880 old days, you know, when you could lick your walls 291 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:15.640 and die, but they were so sturdy and they're not 292 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:19.400 oil based paints anymore. But yeah, so under the friction 293 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:24.000 of an aggressive sanding, you can you can kind of 294 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:27.920 regelatinize a coat of paint on your wall and you 295 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:32.200 end up with gummy, gooey whatever stuff. So here's the thing. 296 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:38.079 If you are restanding a room and you're committed to 297 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.319 just stripping the paint off the walls and getting back 298 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:44.519 to ground zero, then you know what, you just ignore 299 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:47.799 that and you just keep on going. You just plow 300 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:51.680 through the goo. You change out your sandpaper, and you 301 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:55.920 continue on. However, if the paint is just like, well, 302 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:57.759 we don't like this color of paint, and I want 303 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:59.880 to change the paint in this room, and it's time 304 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:03.480 change the paint. But it's bonded well and it's holding well, 305 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.720 then the mistake that a lot of people make is 306 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:10.319 to go at it too aggressively with too heavy a 307 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:12.720 grit of sandpaper. You know, you don't need to use 308 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:16.240 eighty grit or one hundred grit sandpaper to prep a 309 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:19.519 wall for new paint, especially if the paint is in 310 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:22.359 decent bonding shape. And when I say decent shape, I 311 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.079 don't mean it's got marker and it's just color. No 312 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:27.599 I mean, is it grabbing the wall? Well, all right, 313 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:31.079 So in that case, you approach the wall with a 314 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:35.000 screen what we call something in that on the spectrum 315 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:39.000 of sandpaper approaches the end of the spectrum that we 316 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:44.640 call screening. Screening is literally just the lightest kind of sandpaper, 317 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:47.599 because all we're looking to do is open up the 318 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:51.440 porosity of what's there, not remove what's there, but open 319 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:54.559 up its porosity so that the new code of paint 320 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:58.000 bonds well to it. And for that you could use 321 00:18:58.079 --> 00:19:01.480 one eighty two hundred. I mean, in some situations you 322 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:05.599 can simply do it with you know, heavy hot steel wool, 323 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:08.480 which is I'm not recommending it, I'm just using that 324 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:13.880 as an illustrate. So to avoid the uh, the gelatinization 325 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:17.680 of your existing paint. If it's a room where you 326 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:20.839 can live with having that paint stay on the wall, 327 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:25.759 then lighten up on the on the sanding pressure and 328 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:29.319 lighten up on the grit so that you're just opening 329 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:31.240 up the perocity of that paint and you're not going 330 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:34.000 to get in you know, in the world of goo 331 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:35.079 and gum. 332 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:39.000 Yeah, where I have the biggest problems on trim on 333 00:19:39.079 --> 00:19:39.559 the molding. 334 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:43.799 Yeah, Now, trim is tricky. Trim. 335 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:48.440 Uh, you know, again, the rule still applies, but on 336 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:53.599 trim sometimes sometimes it's time to strip it, and sometimes 337 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:56.599 you could actually just do better again, foregoing the sand 338 00:19:56.640 --> 00:19:59.920 paper altogether. And uh, let's just get a little bit 339 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:04.759 of paint stripper on there and apply it carefully, let 340 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:07.440 it do its work, and get right back down to 341 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:11.160 the base of the wood itself. Of course, be careful 342 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:13.640 to make sure that it's wood that you're working with 343 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:18.079 and not some like MDF casing or baseboard, because you 344 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:20.519 do that with some stripper and you just go right 345 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:24.119 through it, just like, oh. 346 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:29.000 It dissolved my base board. But assuming baseboard. 347 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:32.359 Then stripper sometimes will do a far better job of 348 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:33.839 just getting you back to ground zero. 349 00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:35.759 Cool. 350 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:37.640 How'd I do? 351 00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:40.000 Pretty good? 352 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:43.119 You sound a little disappointed, though, I gotta say, I 353 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:44.079 feel like I'm listening. 354 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:46.200 Try it and see if it works. 355 00:20:46.440 --> 00:20:49.640 Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, my friend. Well, 356 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:54.440 thanks for keeping an open mind, and hopefully my wisdom 357 00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:57.359 did not disappoint you this time around. And give it 358 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:00.440 a shot, and I think you'll I think you'll see 359 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:05.000 it works out. Remember, everybody, when you're repainting a room, 360 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:07.480 you don't need to strip the old paint off, you know. 361 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:10.160 I mean, in some cases that's the goal, right, It's like, 362 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:14.599 but even even when it comes to dangerous things like 363 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:18.440 lead based paint, Okay, you've got a hundred year old 364 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:21.000 house and you know that there's lead in the paint. 365 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:23.480 And again, you don't want your you know, your two 366 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:26.079 year old being able to you know, rub their fingers 367 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:28.920 all over the wall or lick the wall. And I'm 368 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:31.000 not saying your two year old as a wall licker. 369 00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:35.960 Every two year old is a wall liquor, Okay, I'm 370 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:41.039 just saying even those quote unquote dangerous paints don't have 371 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:45.279 to be stripped. In fact, I would tell most homeowners 372 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:47.799 don't because you're then you're disrupting it and putting it 373 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:50.880 out into the air around you. Better to encapsulate it, 374 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:53.920 meaning that there are coatings that can go over the 375 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:56.279 top of that. So the moral of the story is, 376 00:21:56.359 --> 00:21:59.640 if you're repainting a room, unless the paint that you've 377 00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:04.880 got is peeling off, and sometimes it is, that needs 378 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:07.319 to come down because that's not a stable base to 379 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:10.079 put more paint on. But if the paint is holding, 380 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:14.359 it's just old and dingy and gross and whatever. All 381 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.440 you have to do is take the sheen off of it. 382 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:20.160 All you have to do is just very lightly rough 383 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:23.920 it up a little bit so that the porosity on 384 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:28.440 the microscopic level has opened up and is ready for 385 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:31.400 the new paint to get into those pores and grab on, 386 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:34.119 and the new paint's gonna hold just fine. So a 387 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:36.920 lot of homeowners, a lot of di wires, run into 388 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:45.559 back breaking projects when solely because you know, they went 389 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:51.240 at it with too aggressively and they created the backbreaking 390 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:54.240 work for themselves, when just a little bit here and 391 00:22:54.279 --> 00:22:57.000 there would have been enough to get them rolling to 392 00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:00.240 the next phase. And there you go, all right more 393 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:01.759 when we return. 394 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:05.519 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 395 00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:07.119 KFI AM six forty. 396 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:13.160 Well, here we are at the end of another three 397 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:15.960 hours show that we have spent with you this morning. 398 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:19.119 I hope you have enjoyed the time. I'm not done yet. 399 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:22.200 I think I have time for one more quick call. 400 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:25.880 It's been an all calls weekend. If you've missed any 401 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:29.319