WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:10.199 Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome with Wednesday afteroon in 2 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:12.400 the Try Shake and the Super bowls coming up by 3 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:15.039 course in four or five days. Bengals should be there. 4 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:18.559 But nonetheless, Liz Bonus' is a medical wellness reporter of 5 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:22.440 Channel twelve WKRC. Lots of good information about what to do, 6 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:24.120 what not to do on the Super Bowl and so 7 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:26.800 much more. And Liz Bonus, welcome again to the Bill 8 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:28.719 Cunningham Show. And first of all, all of us are 9 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:30.839 very upset with the fact that Bengals are not there. 10 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:33.920 Maybe one day they'll be back, but who knows. But 11 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:37.960 let's face it, I read so much about Super Bowl parties, 12 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:41.200 what not? D What is your research shown, if anything? 13 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:44.520 All right, So we got two cool things on the 14 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:47.880 Super Bowl. We need to start with one before the other, 15 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:49.159 because I don't think you're going to want to hear 16 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:51.799 about this after food. Have you heard about this whole 17 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:53.000 pe anxiety thing. 18 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:58.920 I've read it. I kind of disregarded it, but you're 19 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:02.359 in disposal. Pee anxiety is a real thing. I know. 20 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:05.040 Tony Bender tells me he often has the same issue 21 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:07.959 during the game. Explain what that is. 22 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:11.400 So they said that about a third of us they 23 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:15.560 go to the bathroom at halftime, and then they map 24 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:17.159 out a game strategy for when to go to the 25 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:20.280 bathroom and as a consequence for like holding our bladders, 26 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:23.840 and it gives us pee anxiety. We actually will not 27 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:25.879 go in the last two minutes of the game. And 28 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:28.519 it's so much so like I'm talking to the Eurology 29 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:30.719 group about this today because they really say, this is 30 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:32.400 not good for any of us, that we should be 31 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:34.480 sitting around worrying about when we can pee in a 32 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:36.079 game that the Bengals are not even in. 33 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:37.719 Don't you think that's true. 34 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:42.719 I don't have it myself when the Bengals were in 35 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:47.000 the Super Bowl. Yes, when Coop and others were making 36 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:49.959 those catches against the Rams, yes, I had pea anxiety. 37 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:55.200 Not had it sense, But it's a real thing, correct, Yeah, 38 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:55.879 I didn't. 39 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:57.760 Realize that there was a name for it. And they 40 00:01:57.799 --> 00:01:59.719 say that more than half of us feel anxious when 41 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:02.319 we're stuck in a situation that keeps us from using 42 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:05.480 the restroom, and we consider Super Bowl Sunday in the 43 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:08.840 game one of those pee anxiety times. I'm like, my goodness, 44 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:09.360 who knew? 45 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:13.639 What about the caloric intake? I know many of us 46 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:17.719 are concerned. You're binging before, binging, during, binging after and 47 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:20.400 this Super Bowl because the Chiefs and Eagles are involved, 48 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:22.560 which they've been involved too in the last three I 49 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:26.159 understand that the ticket scalping's way down, the viewership maybe down, 50 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:28.800 who knows, But what about the diet? What about what? 51 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:29.439 What not? 52 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:29.840 Dat? 53 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:32.520 How much caloric intake? Should you schedule? Things like that? 54 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:37.000 So I honestly think that this year the most exciting 55 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:40.639 thing will be the food. Make a good Super Bowl 56 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:42.639 party because I can't tell you that the game's going 57 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:44.719 to hold your interest, you know, especially we. 58 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.000 Don't have a stake in it. But it just feels like, 59 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:47.960 I don't know. 60 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:51.039 I know some people want the Chiefs to have the 61 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:54.520 third repeat and other people don't, and you know, so 62 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:55.520 focus on the food. 63 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:56.159 It's a good thing. 64 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:59.520 But what's interesting is when you start looking at surveys, 65 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:04.319 we get as many, according to some as eleven thousand 66 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:07.199 calories that day, and it's recommended you get no more 67 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:10.240 than about two thousands of a day. So second biggest 68 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:13.520 eating day after Thanksgiving, where do you think most of 69 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:14.560 the calories come from? 70 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:19.479 I would think they come from chips and popcorn and 71 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:22.680 drinks and beer and guacamla and all that stuff. 72 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:29.280 So the topper is our pizza and wings get literally 73 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:32.360 you get about ten grams of fat in every wing, 74 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:35.240 which means you get one hundred calories per wing. And 75 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:38.199 you know, I have spent years researching this. I think 76 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:40.439 I told her I got my first radio job because 77 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:42.319 they were like, tell me something interesting about food. And 78 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:44.120 I was like, did you know that last year we 79 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:46.919 ate enough chicken wings that if you line them up, 80 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:50.000 they would stretch from New York to Disney World. And 81 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:53.400 they're like, you should be on the morning show translation 82 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:56.879 you have no life, you know. And I'm like, it's true. 83 00:03:56.919 --> 00:03:59.439 We don't realize, like they just kind of suck them down, 84 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:02.800 you know, and you have the I don't know whether 85 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:04.560 you like the tops or the bottoms of whatever. Those 86 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:06.479 things can kind of slide in. You don't even realize 87 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:09.280 you got thousand calories and wings before you even started 88 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:11.280 the den. You know what else will do that to you? 89 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:14.120 Which is fascinating to me? And I love these deviled eggs. 90 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:16.360 Did you ever notice how you can eat like sixteen 91 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:18.879 deviled eggs, but you could never eat sixteen eggs in 92 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:19.439 an omelet. 93 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:21.319 No, why is that? 94 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:23.319 I don't I don't know. 95 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:27.600 I've been actually fascinated by that. Like I love deviled 96 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:30.560 eggs and I can suck them down, like you know, 97 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:33.360 why is it that like it does that? And yet 98 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:36.399 I would never like open a dozen eggs and make 99 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.680 them for my omelet. They're so good. I think they're 100 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:42.560 just they're like slithery and they just go down easy, 101 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.199 And I justify it because it's time protein. But I've 102 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:49.439 been working on the deviled eggs, perfecting recipes. The secret 103 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:51.920 is you need to put a little mustard in the 104 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:55.879 inside egg, you know, when you make them filling little 105 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:58.839 male little mustard, little bill pickle fee seasonings. 106 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:00.000 Oh the bot. 107 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:05.319 Either way, do you know why we eat so much 108 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:07.600 on Super Bowl Sunday Because we drink so much? 109 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:13.360 So eating is not drinking. If you if you don't 110 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:14.720 want to eat a lot, don't drink a lot. 111 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:18.439 No, this is actually fascinating. So I always thought, like, 112 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:20.120 you know, when you gain the freshman fifteen when you 113 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:21.920 go to college, it was because like y'all start drinking. 114 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:22.959 But actually what. 115 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:25.360 They found is that when you start drinking, you don't 116 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:29.160 care what you eat. So most of us start drinking 117 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:32.160 like noon and the games at six thirty, and so 118 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:33.800 you know, you have a couple, then you have a 119 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:35.439 couple of Pretty soon you're like, I don't care. 120 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:38.279 What I'm eating. I'm seating because I'm eating, you know. 121 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:42.680 And it's fascinating when you actually have less alcohol. I thought, oh, 122 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:45.199 fewer calories, but that's not what they say makes the difference. 123 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:47.639 What makes the difference is that you just lose all 124 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:49.079 your sense of judgment and do. 125 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:50.439 Things and eat things or whatever. 126 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:53.279 That you wouldn't so really do so if you want 127 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:56.560 to cut down the calories, which I find fascinating because 128 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:01.639 this year they're actually having oh, zem pick Super Bowl parties. 129 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:03.240 Did you know that? 130 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:04.800 I never heard of that one. 131 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:09.120 Yes, ozempics. So many people are on these weight loss 132 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:12.720 medicines that for the first year, year to year obesity 133 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:15.160 stats are down, and it's sad. It's not because we're 134 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.959 eating less and exercising more. It's because we're all taking drugs. 135 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:19.920 So a lot of people are on these. 136 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:22.480 They don't want to blow the whole day and you're 137 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:25.600 not really supposed to have much alcohol with the ozentpic thing. 138 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:29.360 I know everybody does, but it delays the gastric emptying, 139 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:31.800 so putting alcohol in there is not a good fit. 140 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.680 You can like pass out and stuff. But so they're 141 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:37.720 doing like a lot more non alcoholic drinks to get 142 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:39.959 you started, which you can do with sprinzers and all that. 143 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:42.519 They're doing more high protein foods. You know, if you look, 144 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:45.199 you'll see all kinds of Super Bowl recipes now for 145 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:48.480 the high pro, the zero the ozepic. 146 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:49.079 Diet, whatever it is. 147 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:51.720 And then a lot of people are just saying like, Okay, 148 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:54.839 we're not starting our meal until four pm, because what 149 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:57.439 happens is that as you eat for six hours, you 150 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:00.519 lose all sense of your hunger signals. And the whole 151 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:03.480 point of ozembic is it makes you less hungry because 152 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:06.519 it's delayed the gastric empty. So just the thought if 153 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:08.439 someone in your circle is trying to watch it, a 154 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:11.360 few things that could help. I personally think, if you 155 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:12.879 want to eat what you want to eat on one day, 156 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:14.759 that's not usually the problem. It's what are you doing 157 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:16.839 the other three hundred and sixty four. 158 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:19.759 Right and the other thing you've done? This topics on 159 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:23.920 when to eat, and I try to consume food before 160 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:26.439 six or six thirty or seven. I go to sleep 161 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:28.839 maybe at midnight or one o'clock, but if you're filling 162 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:31.000 up your belly at the end of the game, which 163 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:33.720 is like ten PM or ten thirty, you may have 164 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:34.360 a rough night. 165 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:37.079 Yeah, I agree with you on that. 166 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:39.839 I do think eating earlier is once gentler on the 167 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:42.680 whole system, and I think you sleep better. And you know, 168 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:44.399 it's kind of like giving your car full think of 169 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:46.519 gas after you've driven the long trip. You don't really 170 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:51.199 need it at midnight. But I also think it's interesting 171 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:55.720 that sometimes how well your team is doing will influence like, 172 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:57.399 oh well, I might as well just eat because my 173 00:07:57.399 --> 00:07:58.879 team's going to lose anyway. 174 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:02.759 Which I think is really fast. That connected. 175 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:08.240 Yeah, with the Reds and Bengals, we've all been there. Now. 176 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:11.639 The issue to the rage the last couple of days 177 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:15.519 is the new pain medicine has been approved by the 178 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:19.399 FDA that doesn't involve opioid, does involve some sort of 179 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:24.279 addiction issue, and it really attacks the pain sensors at 180 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.319 the side of the pain instead of going to your brain. 181 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:29.120 Could that be a game change? You're about people that 182 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:32.320 using various drugs to get high or low, and that 183 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:37.039 this new pain medication could be really a plus, you know, 184 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:37.840 from the. 185 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:39.919 Research that I'm reading, it could be. It's called Vertex 186 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:42.879 and it's the non opioid pain drug, And as you said, 187 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:45.879 what it does is it goes to the signals and 188 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:48.159 the nerves, which is usually where you're having pain, you know, 189 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:51.120 your hip, your back, whatever, not in the brain or 190 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:54.960 its reward pathway. And the reward pathway is the secret. 191 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:57.240 The question I always have because they say that like 192 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:59.919 about one in three who tries an opioid for search 193 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:03.720 will get hooked. The question I have is, you know, 194 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:06.159 are those same people still going to be in search 195 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:08.840 of something because you know, you probably had surgery and 196 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:10.559 had taken a couple of days and you didn't get hooked, 197 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:15.120 and you know, there's a tendency for us to want 198 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:17.840 any escape. So what I think it could be a 199 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:21.480 game changer for pain. I hope that it's not just 200 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:24.200 like okay, now we look for the next sentinel or whatever. 201 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:27.200 You know, people that want to find something to escape 202 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:30.080 usually do you know case in point, have you seen 203 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:35.080 the psychedelic conferences now they're having, you know, yeah, and 204 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:38.600 like people say, it helps me forget I don't have PTSD, 205 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:41.279 and all that, and that's great, but like you know, 206 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:45.120 we tried that years back with LSD and it didn't 207 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:50.159 go so well. So I worry that, you know, we 208 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.639 we like to think that, wow, we'll change the opioid 209 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:55.000 structure of a pain pill and people won't get addicted. 210 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:57.519 But I actually think that most of us in life 211 00:09:57.519 --> 00:09:59.600 now are looking for some kind of an escape, at 212 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:03.360 least a little while. And I found that out because 213 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:07.120 I was looking at doing some research recently on the 214 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:12.759 whole generation, like the millennials, they say are so addicted 215 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:16.519 to things that they're actually using on the job, like 216 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:21.120 you know, keeping alcohol in the desk and keeping drugs 217 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:24.879 you can't tell for, you know, pain killer, poppers and 218 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:28.279 things like that, and it's so prevalent. And it wasn't 219 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.440 just like an addiction to those things like you know, 220 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:34.080 a drug or alcohol. It was even like addictions to 221 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:38.279 pornography and gambling and they can't cope during the day 222 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:40.559 and they're using it work. And it was like this 223 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:45.279 whole thing about how it's sort of maybe more acceptable 224 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:48.080 to use a crutch. And then it's really also very 225 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:49.679 sad that we just want. 226 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:51.320 Some kind of an escape. 227 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:54.039 And so I hope that this game changer for pain 228 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:56.480 really works. And you know, if you have pain, it's 229 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:58.240 a bad sign that your body's. 230 00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:01.320 Telling you something. But clinical trials of that drug showed. 231 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:04.240 It worked as well as the opioid based product. So 232 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:06.000 we're going to find out. We're going to find out 233 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:08.720 if this really was all hype and we were making 234 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:11.759 people addicted, or if people just wanted to escape and 235 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:13.039 it was a very convenient one. 236 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:16.000 That's what you've done reporting on this before. About gambling 237 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.159 in the super Bowl, it's the number one gambling event 238 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:20.799 of the year. A lot of the websites are encouraging 239 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:22.919 people to put up a few bucks. You get two 240 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:25.879 hundred dollars in this and that, and everyone almost gambles 241 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:28.960 on the Super Bowl constantly. And the receptors in the brain. 242 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:31.879 A lot of young males, say between fifteen and thirty 243 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:36.799 years old, use porn instead of dating because you can't 244 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:39.279 deal with a real woman. Therefore you have some fantasy 245 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:42.519 land that's a problem. Are the same receptors in the 246 00:11:42.559 --> 00:11:46.279 brain that deal with porn and gambling and alcohol at 247 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:49.559 work for those different elements, But for those who want 248 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:51.759 to gamble in the Super Bowl, I can gamble and 249 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:54.440 just walk away and don't do it ever again. Whatever. 250 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:59.039 I don't have the problem. But many Americans, whether it's porn, drinking, drugs, 251 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:01.840 or gambling, they start and they can't stop. 252 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:06.720 You know. It's interesting. I am working on a story 253 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:09.159 like this. We're airing it six on Local twelve. And 254 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:13.559 they're the lender Center of Hope has a a guy 255 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:17.759 who deals with nothing but addictions, Internet addiction, porn addiction, 256 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:21.519 gambling addiction, you know, and he actually said that there 257 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:25.879 is a higher suicide rate in gambling addiction than in 258 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:28.919 some of the others. And they do think that, especially 259 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:32.279 with pornography and gambling, there's a center in the brain 260 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:38.399 that gets so hooked that without it you cannot achieve 261 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:41.639 the same high. And he was actually telling me that 262 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:43.679 there are guys now that if you know, if you 263 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.440 get so addicted to porn, it plays with the dopamine 264 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:49.879 in your brain, and your wife who isn't dressed up 265 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:54.840 in some weird, wacky outfit that you know, or borders 266 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:57.080 on violence or something like that will not get you 267 00:12:57.120 --> 00:12:59.519 turned on. And they actually said that there's a higher 268 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:03.879 rate of the use of like ed drugs and erect 269 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:06.279 all this function and these guys because unless they can 270 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:09.320 get that high, they can't achieve whatever does they want 271 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:12.399 to achieve. And he's he really thinks there's a similar 272 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:15.679 correlation in gambling, like it's a different kind of high, 273 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.159 but I don't know if we know why. And what 274 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.039 was so interesting to me was that he said, you know, 275 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:22.639 the problem. One of the reasons that the suicide rate 276 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:24.519 is higher with some of these is that they involve 277 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:27.559 your money, maybe even more than a drug or alcohol 278 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:29.440 addiction would. And so that means you've spent your kids 279 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:33.120 college education, you've mortgaged your house, and quite often you 280 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:35.360 think if you take your own life that people will 281 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:37.600 get insurance payments and it would cover you, which isn't 282 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:40.360 often true. And so there's a lot. 283 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:41.759 Of education that we need to do. 284 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:45.919 But I don't even know if with gambling we know 285 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.919 the extent of the addiction, because it's so much like porn, 286 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:51.320 it's done in secret. You don't like I mean, you 287 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:54.399 might drink with your friends, or smoke or do whatever 288 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:56.679 drug with your friends because it's a friendly thing, but 289 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:58.399 you don't go, hey, let's all pull out our phones 290 00:13:58.440 --> 00:13:59.399 and check out porn together. 291 00:13:59.639 --> 00:13:59.960 Not used. 292 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:02.240 I mean, maybe you do, but I don't know anyone 293 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:04.720 who does that. I've never met a person. It's usually 294 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:06.879 done in secret. So same thing with gambling. You're not 295 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:08.720 like you might put a dollar here, a dollar there 296 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:10.879 with your friends, but you're not really telling them that 297 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:11.919 this is a that dollar. 298 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.000 You just put the whole mortgage payments. 299 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:17.240 Down, you know, because it's yeah, it's kind of an 300 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:19.960 embarrassing thing. So I think the real message is if 301 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:21.879 you talk to the people with gambling hotlines, and they 302 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:24.399 are very passionate by helping people. They want people to 303 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.240 know there really is help for whatever the other addiction is, 304 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:31.399 you know, porn gambling. You don't think there is because 305 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:36.279 it's not openly shared. But just like you can interrupt 306 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:38.639 an alcohol addiction or a drug addiction, you can really 307 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:41.399 interrupt these and they do it usually with a variety 308 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:45.600 of techniques, you know, sometimes avoid and sometimes medication, sometimes accountability. 309 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.960 It's never easy, but you can't kind of start gambling 310 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:50.639 your whole future either, you know. 311 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:55.399 Gambling I've been involved with. I represented some gamblers and 312 00:14:55.480 --> 00:15:00.159 criminal charges and they have to lose. Winning does and 313 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:03.159 satisfy them. They have to lose because they have such 314 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:05.799 a poor self identity. They have to be at the 315 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:08.200 bottom of the well. They can't succeed. They keep gambling 316 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:10.879 until they lose. Many people who might hit the roulette 317 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:13.120 wheel at hard Rock may walk out the door with 318 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:16.080 three hundred dollars thank you. But a true gambling attic 319 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.159 has got to stay there until they lose as much 320 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.320 as they can lose, because it solidifies the view of 321 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:23.440 themself as a piece of human excrement, and they want 322 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:26.759 that confirmation that they're a loser. That's why they gamble, 323 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:30.039 you know what I'm saying, that's really sad. 324 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:32.080 I would believe you on that. I also know that 325 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:35.200 the way you hook people is through what they call 326 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:39.720 intermittent reward, and gambling is very high on that, meaning, 327 00:15:40.159 --> 00:15:42.120 you know, you win a little bit and then you lose, 328 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:44.360 and so it's very hard to break that because you 329 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:47.600 keep getting the intermittent reward. And it's like being in 330 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:50.120 a bad relationship. You know, the guy, like you know, 331 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.480 breaks your ribs and then he apologize and. 332 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:53.480 Gives you flowers or whatever else. 333 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:55.480 It's like the intermitt rewards, but they're so nice and 334 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:58.440 so normal in between, you know, and you feel like 335 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:00.960 that niceness and the normalness come back when you. 336 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:01.600 Win a little bit. 337 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:05.080 And so not that I say in those kind of relationships, 338 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:07.320 but if you talk to anyone, that's usually why you 339 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.759 stay in something abusive, you know. So I do think 340 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:13.679 you're right that probably sadly, you know, you have to 341 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:16.120 hit rock bottom. Lots of things in life are like that. 342 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:19.480 But the message is you really don't have to if 343 00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:22.720 you can get someone that can help you. Kind of 344 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:26.960 in the meantime, you know, it's sad. It's sad that 345 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:29.159 like we're taking a really fun game and this is 346 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:31.519 what it's become. And they said sports betting really did 347 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:32.519 push it over the top. 348 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:36.799 Yeah, Lis Bonus, you're the best health medical reporter. You're 349 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:38.440 on top of all this stuff. Get ready for the 350 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:41.120 Super Bowl. We have about thirty seconds remaining. Who do 351 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:43.519 you like Sunday? The Chiefs who I don't like at all? 352 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:46.879 Tay Tay Taylor Swift drives me crazy now and there's 353 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:49.600 a rumor of an affair with Joe Burrows. You may 354 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:51.919 sweat size and come to the Bengals, in which case 355 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:54.399 the Bengals are going to win or fly Eagles Fly? 356 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:55.879 What does Lis Bonus say? 357 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:01.080 You know, I don't really feel strongly about either, but 358 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:03.000 I'm kind of always for who hasn't. 359 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:04.480 Won the Super Bowl because I think it's fun to 360 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:06.200 see that. I'm told the Eagles want it. 361 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:08.519 Have they won it ever one time? 362 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:11.480 Or have it one time? Okay, So it's just been 363 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:13.200 a very long time, so I'm kind of rooting for 364 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:14.160 the underdog. 365 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:14.400 In this one. 366 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:16.920 Plus I'm so tired of the Chiefs, like they could have, 367 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:19.559 you know, made it to the Bengals stayed in the 368 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:21.680 playoffs for a while, and they wouldn't even do that 369 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:23.039 for us, So I'm kind of. 370 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:25.680 Merrying them now. The Chiefs lost on purpose in Denver 371 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:27.880 so the Bengals would not be And because the Bengals 372 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:28.559 can beat them. 373 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:30.799 Right, they didn't. Yeah, they knew the Bengals could beat 374 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:32.480 them and they didn't want to play them. So just 375 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:34.839 on principle, I'm kind of rooting the other way at 376 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:38.000 this time, but not because I honestly have a preference, 377 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:38.920 you know, just. 378 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:43.519 Liz Bonus, you're the best Super Bowl gambling porn and 379 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:46.160 so much more. Liz Bonus, thank you for coming on 380 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:48.720 the Bill Cunningham shown lez You're a great American. Thank you. 381 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:51.599 Hey back at you, And I want to know if 382 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:53.119 you feel the p anxiety in the game. 383 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:55.880 Okay, I'll be texting you constantly. 384 00:17:58.400 --> 00:17:59.880 Those are the kind of facts that you've got to 385 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:02.240 I got to pee. 386 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:04.640 Is I gotta pee? I gotta be all right, Let's 387 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:07.640 thank you very much. All right, let's continue with more 388 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:09.799 Liz Bonus News next and more. It's your home of 389 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:21.559 the Reds News Radio seven hundred WLW BHI Billy cunning 390 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:24.079 in the Great American Little nasty weather maybe coming a 391 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:27.319 couple hours north. Stay tuned to Brian Combs, Jack Crumley 392 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:29.319 and Moore to see what's gonna happen. But there's going 393 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:30.880 to be sixty degrees in a day or two, so 394 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:33.559 we'll see how that develops. After one o'clock today we'll 395 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:36.640 be Brian Hambrick of the Power of five about what 396 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:39.880 happened yesterday on City Council. But this Joe Burrow thing 397 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:42.400 continues to fascinate so many. I talked to law enforcement 398 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:45.279 official this morning and he said, what occurs on these 399 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:47.759 high end burglaries, and let's face it, Brian Combs talked 400 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:51.920 about what's happening in other parts of the city of Cincinnati, 401 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:55.279