Speaker 1: Jay in New Jersey. Jay, you're on another side of
Speaker 1: Midnight with Lionel.
Speaker 2: Hey lie in a lot. As far as the definition
Speaker 2: of communism, I think it's the religion of the malcontent,
Speaker 2: the religion of destruction. It's trying to destroy any society,
Speaker 2: and it cobbles together any kind of man.
Speaker 1: Not even close, not even with all due respect, with
Speaker 1: all due respect, with all due respect. When people have
Speaker 1: felt it was an economic theory, you're viewing this. See
Speaker 1: it's like when they talk about capitalism as as that
Speaker 1: and we say that's ridiculous. How is it defined.
Speaker 2: It's defined by the people that they get together anybody
Speaker 2: who has a grievance against a certain group or class,
Speaker 2: and they and they care to their their their grievances
Speaker 2: and channel it towards destroying and building their own vision
Speaker 2: of a utopia.
Speaker 1: Not even not even remotely close, not even within, not
Speaker 1: even in the ballpark. Let's try again, what is communism.
Speaker 1: You're on your you're there's an exam, and you want
Speaker 1: to get an A. And we're saying, now, listen, don't
Speaker 1: give us your opinion. Tell us what it is, what
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be theoretically. Let's try one more time.
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 2: It's a religion, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: It's no, it's not even a religion. Now that's three times. Now,
Speaker 1: Now have you given this any thought, my dear friend.
Speaker 2: This is this is a Yeah, I've given a lot
Speaker 2: of thought. I've read a lot, and I've.
Speaker 1: Read a lot, and you've read somebody, and you've read
Speaker 1: suggest somebody's sayings. And by the way, I am I
Speaker 1: am absolutely in no wise interested in living in a
Speaker 1: communist society. But I do know things about cancer. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to get cancer either, but I
Speaker 1: know what it is. So I don't you read somebody
Speaker 1: say that communism is a religion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, communism isn't just a better economics. It's not
Speaker 2: about anything. Communism is all. That's why you see the
Speaker 2: people that are pro Palestine coming along with the people
Speaker 2: that are you know, anti pro abortion, and you think.
Speaker 1: This, you think this, wait wait, wait wait, Communism, Palestine,
Speaker 1: pro abortion, communism work with me is a political right
Speaker 1: and an economic, very important ideology that seeks what what
Speaker 1: does this seek? A classless society?
Speaker 2: Which no, it's hard beyond that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, this is no you're not
Speaker 1: you're not even Oh my god, it seeks in which
Speaker 1: the major means of production. This is what it is,
Speaker 1: such as you know, factories and land and natural resources
Speaker 1: are owned collectively rather than privately. This is the first
Speaker 1: sentence before we get you to palitarian and Palestine. And
Speaker 1: this is before any of this stuff. Then there's Marxist theory.
Speaker 1: What is that in? In Marxist theory, communism is supposed
Speaker 1: to emerge after capitalism and socialism, and then private ownership
Speaker 1: of of you know, property disappears, economic classes disappear, and
Speaker 1: eventually the state is supposed to kind of wither away.
Speaker 1: So it's just it takes over. So I if you
Speaker 1: want to, if you want to just say that about
Speaker 1: a particular group of people that are wrong, just say it.
Speaker 1: But don't call it communism, just like if you were
Speaker 1: to call it, you know, an arco syndicalism. It's also
Speaker 1: not that it might be wrong, but it's the wrong name.
Speaker 2: Lestism is communism line or it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: No, it's listen listen, Jay, Jay, Listen, Jay, I appreciate this.
Speaker 1: Call me again, my friend, listen. I appreciate this. And
Speaker 1: if and if you like this stuff, I am if
Speaker 1: you want to talk about how we are to avoid
Speaker 1: communism and why it's very scary. Yes, but not that
Speaker 1: we have to stop with bumper sticker, playbook, cookie cutter,
Speaker 1: echo chamber drivel. It doesn't help. It makes us sound
Speaker 1: what's the word stupid, And anybody listening to that says,
Speaker 1: it's kind of know what he's talking about. He doesn't
Speaker 1: know what he's talking about. It's just it's it's like,
Speaker 1: I remember one time we were talking for some reason,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. The subject, interestingly enough, was cancer,
Speaker 1: and people on a show called him and says sugar
Speaker 1: causes cancer. And they just started making this a what well,
Speaker 1: I knowed it's good for you, sugar, sugar is cancer.
Speaker 1: I mean, they just it was a kind of a
Speaker 1: cobble together or saying