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<v Speaker 1>Jay in New Jersey. Jay, you're on another side of

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<v Speaker 1>Midnight with Lionel.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey lie in a lot. As far as the definition

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<v Speaker 2>of communism, I think it's the religion of the malcontent,

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<v Speaker 2>the religion of destruction. It's trying to destroy any society,

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<v Speaker 2>and it cobbles together any kind of man.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even close, not even with all due respect, with

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<v Speaker 1>all due respect, with all due respect. When people have

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<v Speaker 1>felt it was an economic theory, you're viewing this. See

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<v Speaker 1>it's like when they talk about capitalism as as that

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<v Speaker 1>and we say that's ridiculous. How is it defined.

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<v Speaker 2>It's defined by the people that they get together anybody

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<v Speaker 2>who has a grievance against a certain group or class,

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<v Speaker 2>and they and they care to their their their grievances

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<v Speaker 2>and channel it towards destroying and building their own vision

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<v Speaker 2>of a utopia.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even not even remotely close, not even within, not

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<v Speaker 1>even in the ballpark. Let's try again, what is communism.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on your you're there's an exam, and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get an A. And we're saying, now, listen, don't

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<v Speaker 1>give us your opinion. Tell us what it is, what

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be theoretically. Let's try one more time.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a religion, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no, it's not even a religion. Now that's three times. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Now have you given this any thought, my dear friend.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is a Yeah, I've given a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of thought. I've read a lot, and I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Read a lot, and you've read somebody, and you've read

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<v Speaker 1>suggest somebody's sayings. And by the way, I am I

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<v Speaker 1>am absolutely in no wise interested in living in a

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<v Speaker 1>communist society. But I do know things about cancer. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't want to get cancer either, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is. So I don't you read somebody

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<v Speaker 1>say that communism is a religion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, communism isn't just a better economics. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>about anything. Communism is all. That's why you see the

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<v Speaker 2>people that are pro Palestine coming along with the people

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<v Speaker 2>that are you know, anti pro abortion, and you think.

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<v Speaker 1>This, you think this, wait wait, wait wait, Communism, Palestine,

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<v Speaker 1>pro abortion, communism work with me is a political right

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<v Speaker 1>and an economic, very important ideology that seeks what what

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<v Speaker 1>does this seek? A classless society?

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<v Speaker 2>Which no, it's hard beyond that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no, this is no you're not

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<v Speaker 1>you're not even Oh my god, it seeks in which

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<v Speaker 1>the major means of production. This is what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>such as you know, factories and land and natural resources

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<v Speaker 1>are owned collectively rather than privately. This is the first

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<v Speaker 1>sentence before we get you to palitarian and Palestine. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is before any of this stuff. Then there's Marxist theory.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that in? In Marxist theory, communism is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to emerge after capitalism and socialism, and then private ownership

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<v Speaker 1>of of you know, property disappears, economic classes disappear, and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually the state is supposed to kind of wither away.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just it takes over. So I if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to, if you want to just say that about

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<v Speaker 1>a particular group of people that are wrong, just say it.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't call it communism, just like if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to call it, you know, an arco syndicalism. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>not that it might be wrong, but it's the wrong name.

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<v Speaker 2>Lestism is communism line or it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's listen listen, Jay, Jay, Listen, Jay, I appreciate this.

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<v Speaker 1>Call me again, my friend, listen. I appreciate this. And

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<v Speaker 1>if and if you like this stuff, I am if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about how we are to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>communism and why it's very scary. Yes, but not that

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<v Speaker 1>we have to stop with bumper sticker, playbook, cookie cutter,

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<v Speaker 1>echo chamber drivel. It doesn't help. It makes us sound

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<v Speaker 1>what's the word stupid, And anybody listening to that says,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of know what he's talking about. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what he's talking about. It's just it's it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember one time we were talking for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. The subject, interestingly enough, was cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>and people on a show called him and says sugar

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<v Speaker 1>causes cancer. And they just started making this a what well,

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<v Speaker 1>I knowed it's good for you, sugar, sugar is cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they just it was a kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>cobble together or saying