Speaker 1: Oh Bread of des are, Hello and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and my name's Jonathan,
Speaker 2: I'm Jacob and today we have Tam from Level playing
Speaker 2: poem back on the show again. Are we getting into
Speaker 2: a little bit more flat today? I'd imagine Tam.
Speaker 3: You know what, this time we're going to talk some
Speaker 3: physics and Jacob.
Speaker 4: Oh physics.
Speaker 2: Well, first, before we get into that, we do want
Speaker 2: to say happy birthday, Sapi. Thank you so much, Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for spending your day with us. I
Speaker 2: know that this is it's a big deal, you know,
Speaker 2: to have you on this show for your birthday, and
Speaker 2: because it's such a big deal to you, it makes
Speaker 2: it that much even bigger of a deal to us
Speaker 2: that you'd want to be spending your time with us.
Speaker 2: So we really appreciate you doing that.
Speaker 3: Thank you, guys. Yeah, this was a treat to get
Speaker 3: to do it on on today. It was a really
Speaker 3: perfect and I was saying off camera that you guys
Speaker 3: are exactly the same before the show as you are
Speaker 3: on the show, which is awesome. I've just the shows
Speaker 3: that you guys have been doing have been off the chart.
Speaker 3: They've just been incredible and I went back to some
Speaker 3: older ones. Mike Wilkerson, you guys had Stellium seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was like.
Speaker 3: Four hundred and forty three, so way back, and I
Speaker 3: was like, that was he is so cool. And Janet
Speaker 3: Deplorable Nation, Oh yeah, Oh my goodness. She was doing
Speaker 3: some series with Troubles with Paranoid Radio. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and they've been doing some of the medical series and
Speaker 3: then she's been doing her Origin series. But I mean,
Speaker 3: these are bringing everybody together yours. Oh and then Cosmic Pete,
Speaker 3: haven't you. I'm so happy, she's happy. She's just she
Speaker 3: deserves this more than anything. And you guys doing I
Speaker 3: think it's been four now, right that she's done her
Speaker 3: Forard Classic the nineties shows.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, she that's what she does.
Speaker 2: She typically, you know, she'll go all month with a
Speaker 2: topic and she will go as deep as she can
Speaker 2: possibly go.
Speaker 4: So she's been doing a great job.
Speaker 2: Really, everybody that we've had as as our partners, have
Speaker 2: been doing a really great job. So if anybody is
Speaker 2: wondering what she's talking about, surely you've seen that. We
Speaker 2: have been uploading so many episodes and that's because we
Speaker 2: are trying to turn this into just a beautiful conspiratorial
Speaker 2: web and instead of having you go and click on
Speaker 2: another podcasts or whatever, it's all right here. It's one
Speaker 2: vast conspiracy network. And it's not only conspiracies mainly conspiracies though.
Speaker 2: So we have Josh Monday on Wednesdays and Sundays. He
Speaker 2: has his Wednesday service in his Sunday service. We have
Speaker 2: the Cosmic Peach coming on on Saturdays. We have the
Speaker 2: White Rabbit Catalyst Jones coming in on Friday, I think,
Speaker 2: and then we have Strange Brew. So it is just crazy,
Speaker 2: NonStop action over here. And also we can't forget about
Speaker 2: the Cajun Night Lives that are that are also coming
Speaker 2: out on Thursdays. So we're just trying to turn this
Speaker 2: into one big conspiratorial family, and everybody is excited. Everybody's
Speaker 2: you know, we're all coming together for one purpose, and
Speaker 2: that's to open up third eyes all across the world.
Speaker 5: Baby.
Speaker 3: And it's fun and it's funny. I mean you just laugh.
Speaker 3: I laugh the whole time. I have it on in
Speaker 3: the background when I'm doing fifty other things and I'm
Speaker 3: just dying laughing. It just is hilarious. But it's also
Speaker 3: new information it's fun things I've never even considered before,
Speaker 3: and so do you guys cover it all. It's been
Speaker 3: really cool, especially just now that you're doing it full time.
Speaker 3: I'm so grateful that you guys can do this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3: I mean, we love doing remember on Patreon.
Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, this is the best job we've ever had,
Speaker 5: like by far, it's not even close.
Speaker 2: It's not even close. Yes, So it's been one hell
Speaker 2: of a ride. And we don't plan on jumping off
Speaker 2: of this crazy train anytime soon. But before we get
Speaker 2: into all the topics we're going to be talking about today,
Speaker 2: I am curious why you have so many numbers on
Speaker 2: that clock behind you.
Speaker 4: I can't get my eyes off of that.
Speaker 3: Is that funny? It is a twenty four hour clock
Speaker 3: and Jacob being in the military, my husband's retire military,
Speaker 3: so uh, he'll he'll let that slip every once in
Speaker 3: a while. He says, he said, it's because I could
Speaker 3: point military time, and he's like, yeah, it's twenty four
Speaker 3: o'c collect. But it's like, I think it was military.
Speaker 3: But we've been my partner Richard Lopez, and I have
Speaker 3: been branching out. We did the children's book we've done
Speaker 3: so many projects together. But the next thing we're thinking
Speaker 3: about is a lunar or a mora less solar calendar
Speaker 3: based on the sun. So in the moon and said,
Speaker 3: be it'd be like February. But no, not even every time.
Speaker 3: So twenty eight days every time starting on Monday, twenty
Speaker 3: eight day month, you have thirteen of them. It's even
Speaker 3: think about like businesses when they're trying to do projections.
Speaker 3: You got twenty eight days in February, sometimes twenty nine.
Speaker 3: You got thirty one in July and August. And if
Speaker 3: you're trying to do calculations and paying rent, so you're
Speaker 3: paying the same amount of rent for twenty eight days,
Speaker 3: you're paying the same amount of rent for thirty one days.
Speaker 3: You're paying you know, like a ripoff with it.
Speaker 4: It's a ripoff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it should be a little bit
Speaker 2: less on February.
Speaker 4: There's less days in there. Why are we paying the
Speaker 4: same amount?
Speaker 5: See, you are gonna be making it more like the
Speaker 5: uh the Coptic Ethiopian calendar where they have thirteen months.
Speaker 3: See, and so many more research I'm doing on this.
Speaker 3: The all the old cultures, they all did it. Have
Speaker 3: you seen the turtle shell. Yeah it has, yeah, it has.
Speaker 3: It has the thirteen in the center, the thirteen blocks
Speaker 3: in the center. It has twenty eight little segments around
Speaker 3: the outside of the shell. Yeah, that's crazy. Twenty eight days,
Speaker 3: thirteen months, and then you get an extra day of
Speaker 3: freebee and some people call it like day of like
Speaker 3: rejuvenation or rebirth or something like that. But I mean,
Speaker 3: how cold is to do like a forty eight hour day.
Speaker 3: So you've got at the end of the year, then
Speaker 3: you have like a freebie. I mean, it's not a sliday,
Speaker 3: it's not a Saturdays off. I mean, it's a crazy
Speaker 3: con And actually, George Eastman from Eastman Kodak, they did
Speaker 3: it for years in their company, so they did it.
Speaker 3: They tried it, and back in oh my gosh, I
Speaker 3: don't have all my research, but back in gosh, like
Speaker 3: the maybe early late twenties, early thirties something like that,
Speaker 3: it actually got really close to passing. The whole world
Speaker 3: was going to switch onto this. And then it was
Speaker 3: religious reasons. Catholics and the Jewish because of their timing
Speaker 3: and stuff like that had to be certain. I don't
Speaker 3: know something, but it all collapsed. But it got so
Speaker 3: close to passing and that would have been it. So
Speaker 3: you know, there's always behind the scene interference.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I actually I actually have turtles and I
Speaker 2: have two of them, and I've like whipped them bad
Speaker 2: boys out because I was like, I, how have I
Speaker 2: never noticed this? That the thirteen on the inside the
Speaker 2: twenty eight on the outside, and yeah, sure as hell,
Speaker 2: like they're on there, two of them. And it's weird
Speaker 2: because it's almost like nature is trying to tell you
Speaker 2: what the calendar is, which it's not that crazy because
Speaker 2: the stars have done that for millennia, Like and so
Speaker 2: why are we not, you know, like paying more attention
Speaker 2: to what nature is trying to tell us what the
Speaker 2: sky is trying to tell us, what this matrix is tying,
Speaker 2: trying to tell us that, Like, yeah, there there is
Speaker 2: a system already set in place of which the entire
Speaker 2: animal kingdom, of which the entire sky abides by.
Speaker 5: But we're just over here like.
Speaker 4: Oh, we know better than nature, we know better than
Speaker 4: the sky. It's like it's so silly.
Speaker 3: We'll do twenty eight days and then thirty one days
Speaker 3: and then we'll do daylight savings.
Speaker 5: I mean, what I really hope that goes away.
Speaker 3: I mean that's time. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: It's actually I've been hearing so Trump said initially whenever
Speaker 2: he was running, that he was going to try and
Speaker 2: get rid of daylight savings time. Well, somebody came up
Speaker 2: to him and asked him, you know more about that?
Speaker 4: Is that in the works? You know, what are they doing?
Speaker 2: And he goes, you know, it's actually it's it's it's
Speaker 2: a little bit more difficult than what most people think
Speaker 2: because some people like the later time and some people
Speaker 2: like the earlier time. And so he's having trouble even
Speaker 2: even within his own camp of like, I don't know
Speaker 2: which one to do. I mean I always thought you
Speaker 2: would you would want more day, Like why would you
Speaker 2: want more night?
Speaker 4: You know, like I I vampires, but I.
Speaker 2: Probably, But I guess there's a there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people that want more night.
Speaker 3: And I'm just like, it's confusing because there's some cities
Speaker 3: who don't that don't do it, like I think in Arizona.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a whole state or it's
Speaker 3: just like Phoenix.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a whole state that doesn't do it.
Speaker 3: I don't think does it. I mean there's some places
Speaker 3: that don't. They don't play. They don't want to play
Speaker 3: the game because it's stupid. So they did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it works out though, I'll tell you what for
Speaker 2: that for that time change. So my other podcast, Meta Mysteries,
Speaker 2: my co host name is Sean and he lives in Arizona.
Speaker 2: So now that we had the spring forward, they're two
Speaker 2: hours back behind us, whereas normally they're one hour beyon
Speaker 2: us right, And so if I get done with a
Speaker 2: show for the Cult at ten o'clock, well he's just
Speaker 2: starting eight o'clock his time. We can double roll all night, baby,
Speaker 2: And so you know, you can kind of take advantage
Speaker 2: of the system from time to time.
Speaker 4: But I'm just always trying to find the silver lining.
Speaker 3: But anyway, along with that, there are two other guys.
Speaker 3: You guys know, I'm Brandon Thomas from Expanding Reality. Have
Speaker 3: you guys seen that. He's awesome. Oh, he has had
Speaker 3: on Tom Sherman and he figured out a completely different
Speaker 3: way to do the calendar. His is I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly, but it's like five seasons or something.
Speaker 3: But he did it with calculations. It's completely It is
Speaker 3: a cool concept. But again, wrapping her head around these
Speaker 3: things you have to take the time and think and
Speaker 3: listen and understand. But his is completely different. And then
Speaker 3: he just had on Nicole Murphy and she did a
Speaker 3: like a three D flat earth sun and moon thing,
Speaker 3: where how the sun as it's going around, it's spiraling up,
Speaker 3: so it's higher in the sky. In the summer, it's
Speaker 3: closer to tropic cancer and then tropic of Capricorn one
Speaker 3: degree a day it goes back down so it's lower
Speaker 3: in the sky. So I was like, ah, that's another
Speaker 3: just a great way of explaining things. So it's a
Speaker 3: more of a three dimensional it's a long podcast, and
Speaker 3: it's a lot that's a kind of very very tiny
Speaker 3: overview of you.
Speaker 2: Know what, we'll get them on. We're gonna have that show.
Speaker 2: Let's just try and make that happen so we can
Speaker 2: understand it, you know. But I always thought, like, why
Speaker 2: is it that we need twelve months? You know, there's
Speaker 2: only four seasons. Let's just have four months and just
Speaker 2: I mean, I know a month is a moonth and
Speaker 2: it's the cycle of the moon and all that fun jazz,
Speaker 2: but call it something else then, you know, just call
Speaker 2: it the season. So here we are in the fall season,
Speaker 2: the ninety third day of the fall season or something
Speaker 2: like that, right, Like that wouldn't be that crazy. It
Speaker 2: would be like fall dash ninety three dash twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: I don't know, thinking outside the box here, but anyway, okay,
Speaker 2: either way, it.
Speaker 3: Would be a shift somehow to do that anyway, But
Speaker 3: you know, I just it was just fun idea. But
Speaker 3: that you're asked about the twenty four o'clock, and that
Speaker 3: was she had. Nicole Murphy had a watch, twenty four
Speaker 3: hour watch and it had the zero zero hour what
Speaker 3: do you call it, zero hundred hours?
Speaker 5: Yeah, midnight but yeah, zero hundred or the yeah.
Speaker 3: When it's dark. And so then the when the the
Speaker 3: hour hand went to the top, it was noon, which
Speaker 3: makes more sense, right, so at twelve and then back
Speaker 3: to the twenty four hours at bottom, So back to
Speaker 3: zero at the bottom. But I mean the watch kind
Speaker 3: of made more sense too that way, dark at the bottom.
Speaker 3: I mean, oh.
Speaker 4: Wow, so you do have midnight? Is that midnight at
Speaker 4: the bottom?
Speaker 3: Then I don't she had the watch. I've never even
Speaker 3: heard about that. But when she did her watch, she
Speaker 3: had midnight at the bottom and then had noon at
Speaker 3: the top. When the sun's at the top obviously, and
Speaker 3: then when the sun's going.
Speaker 5: That kind of makes sense. Right as you're looking at
Speaker 5: it midnight, the sun goes up and then comes down.
Speaker 5: So instead of having it oriented one way, you'd have
Speaker 5: it oriented the other. It's still the same time in
Speaker 5: a way. You're I could dig that absolutely.
Speaker 3: I mean, I love the new ideas. What's that I mean?
Speaker 2: Is it predicated off of the sun dial, which you
Speaker 2: would only see so, like you know, I'm just thinking
Speaker 2: about why there would be a twelve hour clock rather
Speaker 2: than a twenty four. But it probably has to do
Speaker 2: with a sun dial because there's not going to be
Speaker 2: any kind of light shadow that is shining off of
Speaker 2: the sun dial to tell you what time it is.
Speaker 2: It's a sun dial, so maybe it's only you know,
Speaker 2: showing the hours of the day, and that's why maybe
Speaker 2: there's only twelve.
Speaker 4: You get what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3: It was in the sundial, but if you use a
Speaker 3: sun dial. I love these things. So if the moon
Speaker 3: the sun is in the center, the earth is over here,
Speaker 3: and so the sunlight is going this way, you've got
Speaker 3: the sun dial. The shadow is going to be on
Speaker 3: this side. Right, So you've got the sun dials always
Speaker 3: the same as you got to twelve, one to three.
Speaker 3: So what happens when the sun's here the Earth is
Speaker 3: on this side and the shadows this way? Then the
Speaker 3: shadow is going to be on the opposite side of
Speaker 3: the sun dial? How would that work on a globe?
Speaker 3: Because it's the shadows this side, one, two, three, whatever.
Speaker 3: Then on this side, if the sun's hitting here the
Speaker 3: shadows on this side, that would be completely different numbers
Speaker 3: on the sun dial. It wouldn't be if it's two
Speaker 3: o'clock and two o'clock. How's it to be two o'clock?
Speaker 4: Flat Earth has entered the conversation, let's go, baby.
Speaker 3: I held myself back as long as I could. What
Speaker 3: is it? How many minutes?
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: So you said that we're going to be getting into
Speaker 2: a little bit of physics today. This is Jacob's favorite
Speaker 2: topic because it's science, and how can you refute science?
Speaker 2: How can you refute physics? And I find it interesting
Speaker 2: that a flat earth the is going to be presenting
Speaker 2: physics a little bit today because normally not gonna lie
Speaker 2: tends to be a bit of a weakness in the
Speaker 2: in the flat Earth realm, although you know, they have
Speaker 2: different definitions for it. There's no such thing as gravity.
Speaker 2: It's density and buoyancy and electromagnetic you know, electro what
Speaker 2: is it electromagnetism. So yeah, we're excited about this one, absolutely,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: I put a bunch together so I don't We can
Speaker 3: go quickly or slowly as you want.
Speaker 5: But and for the record, I am not a physicist
Speaker 5: by any means. My physics educational background is very very limited.
Speaker 5: So if we're going to start talking about like certain theorems,
Speaker 5: I'm probably going to be completely talking out of my ass,
Speaker 5: you know. But in the broad spectrum of things, yeah,
Speaker 5: I do tend to lead more towards that side of things,
Speaker 5: for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean I never heard of the eight inches per
Speaker 2: mile square thing before a flat earth or brought it up.
Speaker 4: As far as the curvature of the Earth.
Speaker 5: I never actually looked into it, honestly, So it would
Speaker 5: make sense that a flat earth or was the one
Speaker 5: that would bring it up, for sure.
Speaker 3: So all right, one, if I'm backing up just a second,
Speaker 3: you had had a I don't remember who it was,
Speaker 3: but you were talking about all the testing that the
Speaker 3: government has done on people without their knowledge or consent, biological,
Speaker 3: although chemical and the warfare testing and stuff. So I
Speaker 3: was so excited because I've actually met my name. So
Speaker 3: I got a name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so there was.
Speaker 3: My last name before was Patrick. So he was Bill
Speaker 3: Patrick was one of the Offensive bio program, one of
Speaker 3: the original bioweaponeers, and so I got to meet him.
Speaker 3: We did a class. We went to his home in
Speaker 3: not let me see if I go back whipsie, let
Speaker 3: me come back in a Maryland. So he used to
Speaker 3: work at Edgewood and let me see if I can
Speaker 3: get this. I figured out how to do this zoom. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: So we went to his house. We did a training
Speaker 3: program at his home. It was like a two day
Speaker 3: program and we got to He had all the original
Speaker 3: stuff from the bioweapons program fifties sixties. He talked about
Speaker 3: what they did on the subways, the barts or something
Speaker 3: like that. I don't know if it was that then
Speaker 3: at the time the was a Bay Area transit something
Speaker 3: like that, real transit Bart whatever in San Francisco. But
Speaker 3: he talked about this getting it in the subway and
Speaker 3: doing all the testing and stuff. He's gone now, so
Speaker 3: I hope I'm not like, you know, divulging anything that
Speaker 3: I said't know, he with all his I don't only
Speaker 3: see the bottom right where it's got all of his
Speaker 3: certificates and training and all of his background and just
Speaker 3: absolutely amazing. But to get to meet him, talk to him,
Speaker 3: for him to share his stories. But I always wanted
Speaker 3: you to know that, Yeah, that's real. I mean, you
Speaker 3: guys are talking about the testing. I know, Jacob, you know,
Speaker 3: but I mean, for real, for real, it's yeah, been,
Speaker 3: they're done. That he was actually boots on the ground,
Speaker 3: he was there.
Speaker 5: And oh you're talking about in San Francisco when they
Speaker 5: sprayed the sickness all over the place just to see
Speaker 5: how fast it would spread.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that that was like one of a tome
Speaker 3: a many many that they did was just horrible looking.
Speaker 5: Like over two hundred all across the country, and they
Speaker 5: acknowledged that they did it and then just kind of whatever.
Speaker 5: Richard Nixon is the one that finally put a stop
Speaker 5: to it. That blows my mind. I also, I think
Speaker 5: Nixon gets a bad reputation. I'm not saying he was
Speaker 5: like a good guy by any means, but I also
Speaker 5: think that they attribute a lot more nefarious things to
Speaker 5: his name just because he's an easy he's an easy out,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But I feel like he
Speaker 5: was also doing a lot of good along with a
Speaker 5: lot of bad.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, but I just thought that was cool.
Speaker 3: But it was neat because to get to meet someone
Speaker 3: like this, talk to him, listen to him. Here from him.
Speaker 3: And then Bill Patrick, so you always called me cousin Patrick,
Speaker 3: and we lived in Vegas afterwards after I stopped doing
Speaker 3: all this, and he came out for a meeting, and
Speaker 3: so when I had my daughter, she was about four
Speaker 3: or five, so she got to meet him and it
Speaker 3: was just really cool, like one of the original I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just really awesome. That was awesome. And then switching, Okay,
Speaker 3: I started getting into we were talking before about the
Speaker 3: nuclear weapons hoax. Last time we talked a little bit
Speaker 3: about it. So I've done a deep dive and same
Speaker 3: thing as do you remember a guy Galen windsor yes,
Speaker 3: he was the one, yes, and drinking the plutonium, drinking
Speaker 3: the spent fuel water. Everything.
Speaker 4: Soon, oh, hold on one second, we have an interruption.
Speaker 3: Okay, And oh I was gonna Jacob. I did want
Speaker 3: to say that I have been turned a little to
Speaker 3: your side. I'm giving up the flat Earth. I'm going
Speaker 3: full on globe tard. I'm right there with you, and
Speaker 3: I've got proof. We've got proof right now, right Jonathan,
Speaker 3: I think from the International Space Station, and I concede
Speaker 3: I can sde to Jacob.
Speaker 5: Okay, for the record, I do still say the International
Speaker 5: Space Station is a lot more hoaxy than it is real.
Speaker 3: But right, well, no, I'm on your side now one
Speaker 3: hundred percent. I've jumped the train jump.
Speaker 2: I mean, all of the poems that you've done, all
Speaker 2: the books you've done.
Speaker 4: You are now.
Speaker 3: I'm now convinced it's the ISS that actually convinced me
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 5: Oh Lord, this has gotta be good. Whatever's about to
Speaker 5: load is gonna be just gold.
Speaker 2: I mean, the ISS does prove a lot of things.
Speaker 2: I mean, how can the ISS be on?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: There he is?
Speaker 5: What's going on, Dave?
Speaker 4: What is going on? Did you get your tramp stamp yet?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: I have not, Bro, But I'm actually very glad to
Speaker 5: have a conversation with you. I've been hearing that you
Speaker 5: have had some curious shade being thrown at you from
Speaker 5: certain individuals. How is everything on your inbro, what do
Speaker 5: you talk about.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Speaker 5: There was a YouTube video that came out not too
Speaker 5: long ago, and these people were calling you out specifically right,
Speaker 5: and they were trying to debunk you based off of
Speaker 5: your app and all of this shit. They were saying
Speaker 5: something about legal action. I'm just like, all right, I
Speaker 5: hope Dave's okay, and I hope that this is just
Speaker 5: like internet beef and it's not going to real.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: These are the Globe trolls.
Speaker 6: They in October, they illegally hacked into my server and
Speaker 6: they stole all the information that all the users share
Speaker 6: with everyone else. So all the information which is non
Speaker 6: KYC information that you're putting in there that you want
Speaker 6: to share with the other users, they were able to
Speaker 6: get that data. You can just spend three dollars on
Speaker 6: the app and get that data yourself if you want.
Speaker 6: But they spent a lot of money hacking it. So
Speaker 6: since then, we fix that and do it. Yeah, so
Speaker 6: it's all secure, and you know they're basically do you guys.
Speaker 6: I haven't spit on you guys in I don't know,
Speaker 6: a couple of years now, minute, man, it's in a
Speaker 6: while they're they're trying everything to shut down the a
Speaker 6: EMP and flat Earth. They're doing everything they can to
Speaker 6: uh to you know, get people to discredit it, which
Speaker 6: is basically basically it's making it even stronger, you know,
Speaker 6: because everything they tell us is the opposite of the truth.
Speaker 6: So flat Earth is getting stronger. But they have the
Speaker 6: meme out there flat Earth is dead. Flat Earth is dead.
Speaker 5: That's it. Flatter is dead, the globe is dead.
Speaker 6: The more they try, the more they scramble, h the
Speaker 6: more in trouble. You know that they're the deeper hole
Speaker 6: they're digging for themselves.
Speaker 2: Dave, I I can't help but tell that that you're
Speaker 2: you're floating there and yeah, look man, I mean there's
Speaker 2: just no gravity.
Speaker 4: Going on up there in the space gravity but it's
Speaker 4: this way.
Speaker 5: Well it's this way today. Oh you're an Australian.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I'm well, I'm I'm over Australia right now.
Speaker 6: But in a few minutes they'll be over South Africa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thousands of miles an hour. I mean, it's amazing
Speaker 2: that you just don't catch fire while you're out there.
Speaker 6: Well, actually, I can let me just switch to the
Speaker 6: other room here. I actually live here in space. So
Speaker 6: you didn't know this, but my house is actually in space.
Speaker 6: Let me just get through this little opening so I
Speaker 6: can get over here, and here we go. Hello, all right,
Speaker 6: can you see me? Now?
Speaker 5: Here we go?
Speaker 6: My house is actually in in space, and I'll give
Speaker 6: you a tour.
Speaker 5: Would you like a tour?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 5: Okay, so absolutely.
Speaker 6: This way, I'll show you the port side of the
Speaker 6: space station. We can look out the window right here.
Speaker 6: Let me just get over there.
Speaker 5: This is great.
Speaker 4: Did the tornado bring you up into the stratosphere?
Speaker 1: Sir?
Speaker 4: I mean, are you Dorothy in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 6: Hit the wall man, Yeah, it's really tough to navigate here.
Speaker 5: Let's go to the upper deck.
Speaker 6: Whoa right, yeah, so so you guys didn't know, you know.
Speaker 6: And then this is the starboard side, which is better
Speaker 6: because we can see the other side of.
Speaker 5: The universe from over here.
Speaker 6: We'll take a we'll take a look outside. Hold on, wow, I.
Speaker 5: I careful, don't hit the glass man.
Speaker 2: I never would have thought that the universe would look
Speaker 2: so much like your backyard.
Speaker 4: That is quite something.
Speaker 6: Everything it's fractal. Everything is as a fractal of everything else.
Speaker 5: Let me just get that here.
Speaker 3: Oh Dave, thank you so much. I can't thank you enough.
Speaker 4: This is legendary.
Speaker 3: In the shirt he's wearing, if you can see his
Speaker 3: right shoulder, that's our Charismic.
Speaker 4: Brand, that's right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And they have these awesome pendants. And you guys,
Speaker 6: you need one of these pendants. I'll let you slip
Speaker 6: on the on the tattoo if you get one of
Speaker 6: these Chrismic pendants.
Speaker 5: I might just do that, Jacob aside from not getting
Speaker 5: the t to Actually, that pennon looks bad ass.
Speaker 6: It's got some weight to it too. You guys still
Speaker 6: have them where you sold out.
Speaker 3: We still have some silver ones.
Speaker 6: The silver ones are really nice too. I've got that
Speaker 6: one also. But they're amazing. They're not small, I mean
Speaker 6: they're they're they're they're hefty.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it looks like a half dollar kind of
Speaker 4: or probably bigger.
Speaker 5: Than a little bigger than a silver dollar, a little
Speaker 5: bit bigger indeed.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, I'm actually just amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm just amazed that you would you would even be
Speaker 2: able to dangle that in any direction with the.
Speaker 6: Gravity pockets of gravity if you watch, you know, like
Speaker 6: our guy that was in the bathroom was repairing something.
Speaker 6: He dropped the screw that was a pocket of gravity. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and I just want to one final statement if I
Speaker 6: don't I wasn't listening earlier. I just showed up because
Speaker 6: I only have a little bit of satellite time to
Speaker 6: connect you guys. You guys still believed in the I
Speaker 6: S S. You're retarded?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 6: I think John, Johnathan you are on the flat side,
Speaker 6: and Jacob you're just re started.
Speaker 4: Is that where we are.
Speaker 5: Still globe tard?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I do think the ISS has way more hoaxiness to
Speaker 5: it than a lot of the other things. Don't get
Speaker 5: me wrong, but uh there's too many examples of that
Speaker 5: being proven.
Speaker 6: How about just like complete and total nonsense.
Speaker 5: I guess at this point we could just say fraudulents.
Speaker 5: I think that's more.
Speaker 6: When when you're faking one thing, you're lying about everything.
Speaker 6: So there you go, All right, guys, than you David
Speaker 6: appreciate it, you Manda man Bye?
Speaker 4: What an app.
Speaker 3: You put on the show or what that was?
Speaker 5: Perfect?
Speaker 4: My god, I can't believe that just transpired. I love
Speaker 4: get Jacob.
Speaker 5: I love I did not see that one coming at all.
Speaker 4: That's what the secret was about, Jacob, So just so
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 5: Okay, I oh, I was worth it.
Speaker 2: That was definitely worth it, Jacob honestly, of course. But Jacob, honestly,
Speaker 2: just get the flat earth tramp stamp. At this point,
Speaker 2: what do you got to lose? Who are you trying
Speaker 2: to look good for? Just get it, be it, Let
Speaker 2: it be an emblem of this show.
Speaker 5: Sir. I'm still not a flat earther or convinced of
Speaker 5: the flat earth.
Speaker 2: No, but you're a conspiracy theorist with that third eye
Speaker 2: all the way open, and the flat earth is a
Speaker 2: symbol of that representation.
Speaker 3: Sir.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm gonna get some ink. First off. I need
Speaker 5: to get a lot more ink before I get anything
Speaker 5: flat Earth related. I have so much canvas that needs
Speaker 5: to get covered, but I don't have the time and
Speaker 5: money to do what needs to be done.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you actually have that much canvas.
Speaker 2: With that fucking sweater vest that you go in the
Speaker 2: shower with every night.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, dude, I'm telling you, I wear a sweater
Speaker 5: even when I got nothing on. I never leave home
Speaker 5: about it. I'm a hairy guy. But uh but no,
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I'm gonna shave all that down. Get
Speaker 5: the ink and then let the hair grow back as
Speaker 5: the Lord intended?
Speaker 4: Are you h interdimensional being, Jacob I?
Speaker 5: Because you give off people might say so, you give
Speaker 5: off maybe Bigfoot vibes. I think, oh, dude, dude, Oh
Speaker 5: that'd be dope if I was a Sam squanch or
Speaker 5: had a little bit of some Sam squanch blood in me.
Speaker 5: But that depends on who you ask. Some people believe
Speaker 5: these are alien, some people believe these are angelic. Some
Speaker 5: people believe they're nephilimic. So, I mean, it really depends
Speaker 5: on who you're talking to to have that conversation.
Speaker 2: We have a sentient Sam squanch on the show today
Speaker 2: and he just so happens to be a fed.
Speaker 4: It's unfortunate, that's what we did. I mean, it's unreal.
Speaker 5: Doesn't believe in Sam squanch Uh, you know, all a
Speaker 5: part of the Christian vibe. Apparently I'm a Zionist extremist.
Speaker 5: Depending on who you ask, I'm yeah, just all over
Speaker 5: the place. Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can hear the Gloomer. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5: I feel like it's weird to acknowledge that the well, okay,
Speaker 5: any other grouping of people to say that you believe
Speaker 5: the Earth is round? That's a no brainer right in
Speaker 5: the conspiracy world to say that you're around Earth or
Speaker 5: you're like ostracized. So it's kind of funny for me
Speaker 5: to just sit here and be that person. And it
Speaker 5: also helps me be a sounding board to hear other
Speaker 5: people out because otherwise, like, all right, for real, if
Speaker 5: me and Jonathan were both of the flat earth variety,
Speaker 5: how many times can you do a flat Earth episode
Speaker 5: agree with every single thing that brings you up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think that's why Dave enjoys you
Speaker 3: guys and people who do disagree with them, because they
Speaker 3: won't agree with them. What's he going to do? But
Speaker 3: I think when people have pushed back and they have questions,
Speaker 3: then he gets to do, you know, roll out his
Speaker 3: But that was fun. That was I'm so glad he
Speaker 3: did that. That was he's exhausted. He's exhausted, So that
Speaker 3: was a real labor of love that he did. That
Speaker 3: was just He's amazing And he wore our shirt. That
Speaker 3: was really sweet.
Speaker 2: That was HELLI and anybody out there sweet exactly, and
Speaker 2: anybody out there that wants to name call or say
Speaker 2: any negativity towards Dave Wise, I mean, especially after like
Speaker 2: something like that, like just a very yes. Is he
Speaker 2: a little unhinged from time to time? Be because he
Speaker 2: gets excited about the information and he cannot believe how
Speaker 2: easy it is for him and hard it is for
Speaker 2: other people. You know, I love the passion and that's
Speaker 2: what David Wise brings to every single show. He is
Speaker 2: passionate about this. And so, yeah, anybody had got something
Speaker 2: negative to say, you're probably a globetard.
Speaker 4: Let's just be honest. That's probably what you are.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, like you said, he might get a
Speaker 5: little unhinged sometimes, But first of all, who doesn't. Who
Speaker 5: doesn't get a little unhinged from time to time? Hell,
Speaker 5: how many times have you and I gone unhinged on
Speaker 5: some random topic that we don't even necessarily buy into,
Speaker 5: but we're talking about it and it gets as excited
Speaker 5: or the whole part of the man's life.
Speaker 2: Or even calling out certain people that I've done in
Speaker 2: the past that I have since apologized to said person
Speaker 2: and we have squashed everything and everything's good. People get unhinged.
Speaker 2: We're humans, that's what we do. We are spiritual beings
Speaker 2: living a human existence. But in this human existence, we
Speaker 2: have these meat fleshes, these meat suits that we have
Speaker 2: to walk around with all day, and of course all
Speaker 2: the limitations that go into that, and uh, some of
Speaker 2: those limitations is the emotional side. So it do be
Speaker 2: like that from time to time. But yeah, David Weiss
Speaker 2: an absolute stud I love that guy. I've always loved him.
Speaker 2: He is one of my favorite flat earthers of all time. Oh,
Speaker 2: he's definitely the king of the flat Earth at this moment. Anyway,
Speaker 2: he's he is king of that movement.
Speaker 4: I don't even know how you can argue that.
Speaker 3: Noah, Yeah, he's I mean, he's changed my life. I've
Speaker 3: heard I heard people say that before and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't I don't get that. But man, he's turned
Speaker 3: my life upside down and backwards and sideways, and I
Speaker 3: just I couldn't be happier. I mean, it's I keep
Speaker 3: listening to Jonathan saying that it's are we in the matrix?
Speaker 3: Is it a you know, what is this like? Am
Speaker 3: I made of anything? And if there's so much space
Speaker 3: between everything? Are we made of anything? I Mean, it's
Speaker 3: just the just listening to you kind of process that
Speaker 3: it's really it's fun because I've kind of got to
Speaker 3: that point where I don't. Not that I don't take
Speaker 3: this as seriously, but I really don't take this as
Speaker 3: seriously anymore. I know where I am, I know what
Speaker 3: I believe. I cannot for the life of me. My
Speaker 3: parents are to me what Jacob is to Jonathan. So
Speaker 3: it's kind of they're my sounding board. If I cannot
Speaker 3: get through to them, I cannot no matter what, no
Speaker 3: matter what I show them, no matter what I do anything,
Speaker 3: They're just like, oh, that's not you know, good job,
Speaker 3: I'm keep going.
Speaker 4: You know, here's a good girl.
Speaker 3: Go play, Go play. And I mean, it's just crazy
Speaker 3: that you know, I'm doing all this research and everything
Speaker 3: and they're just like, you know, good for you. We're
Speaker 3: so pritty. I mean, it's really nice.
Speaker 2: But I tell you what though, for the longest time,
Speaker 2: whenever we started this conspiracy channel, I had everybody calling
Speaker 2: us crazy, including my parents, including all of my friends
Speaker 2: who actually my friends actually thought that I started this
Speaker 2: out of a joke and that I was just trying
Speaker 2: to fool people. I was like, no, like, this is
Speaker 2: this is like right up my alley. I talk about
Speaker 2: this literally all the time, and you guys just think
Speaker 2: I'm joking because you think it sounds ridiculous, but it's not.
Speaker 2: And that's how it was a few years ago when
Speaker 2: we first started, nobody was really on board. I mean
Speaker 2: people were starting to question it with the with the
Speaker 2: COVID jab and all that's and all that fun nonsense.
Speaker 2: But like now you have everybody. My dad calls me
Speaker 2: whenever there's anything crazy going on, like it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: what it could be. The Maui fire, could be, the
Speaker 2: the fires over and one of the Carolinas, which one
Speaker 2: was it North Carolina.
Speaker 5: Both South Carolina and North Carolina and like on the border,
Speaker 5: and they were.
Speaker 3: That hurricane that went to that crazy bizarre hurricane that hit.
Speaker 3: I know, we were in Spartansburg the day after and
Speaker 3: it was a nightmare. Everything was flooded. Asheville I think
Speaker 3: is still recovering. Just yeah, these natural natural disaster.
Speaker 2: Well and all of the mountain dews, just keep on
Speaker 2: getting it right, I'm waiting on Code RED, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm waiting on.
Speaker 4: It's bound to happen. Wait what, Well, there was there
Speaker 4: was Baja blast, mountain dew, there was MAUIs.
Speaker 5: Yes, oh god right.
Speaker 4: And there was a mountain dew.
Speaker 2: So the direct energy weapons so there's there's all kind
Speaker 2: of ties to the mountain dew. So yeah, I'm just
Speaker 2: waiting on cob Bred maybe a little purple thunder one
Speaker 2: of these days.
Speaker 5: Pepsi as a company are comedies and they're Satanists. That's proof.
Speaker 5: This is proof, Jonathan.
Speaker 4: I don't even I don't even know how I can
Speaker 4: say anything against that.
Speaker 2: I will say I will say this. Coca Cola is
Speaker 2: one of the biggest companies. Actually, I think it's one
Speaker 2: of the main companies that introduce Santa Claus to us.
Speaker 3: So oh yeah, oh my god, as far as.
Speaker 2: The big as far as the big red suit, and
Speaker 2: you know, kids going up and sitting on this random
Speaker 2: dude's lap.
Speaker 4: It's like, hey, it's okay.
Speaker 3: This guy comes into our house in the middle of night,
Speaker 3: comes into your room, leaves you presence. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: just when you think about that, so creepy Santa Satan,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: Zone Yeah, and you got to leave him offerings every
Speaker 4: time he comes with the milk and cookies, like it's
Speaker 4: purely satanic.
Speaker 5: Look, all I'm saying is that Coca Cola was trying
Speaker 5: to help the world by giving them caffeine and cocaine
Speaker 5: and a bottle. Okay, they were just trying to get
Speaker 5: out there and get people motivated. Meanwhile, Pepsi's over here
Speaker 5: calling their shots on natural disasters. Look, you make your
Speaker 5: own decisions. One of these companies was not allowed to
Speaker 5: be sold in Russia, and the other one we have
Speaker 5: videos of Gorba chef chugging it down. You make your
Speaker 5: own determinations, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Right, they both owned by the same company. Now, I
Speaker 3: think they're both run it's left and right, it's right, right?
Speaker 3: What is it? The same two?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 5: Bought a bunch of fast food chains because it was
Speaker 5: easier to buy fast food chains and force them to
Speaker 5: put pepsi in their fountain drinks than it was to
Speaker 5: actually fight Coca Cola toe to toe in an ad campaign.
Speaker 5: So that's why, like KFC and Taco Bell and Freddy's
Speaker 5: and all any any restaurant you go or not restaurant,
Speaker 5: any fast food chain that you go to that serves pepsi.
Speaker 5: It's actually owned by Yum, which is a.
Speaker 2: And shout out to the best fast food rushing staurant
Speaker 2: of all time teaming up with Pepsi.
Speaker 4: Long John Silvers.
Speaker 2: I mean I can taste the deliciousness of a hush
Speaker 2: puppy with some malt vinegar in my mouth right now.
Speaker 3: We had a we had a KFC, and A and
Speaker 3: a Long John Silver, and they're gone. They're just I
Speaker 3: don't know if they're just gone there.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's because all the major corporations just
Speaker 2: don't want you eating delicious food on a regular basis.
Speaker 2: I really think that that's what it is, because I
Speaker 2: don't know how anybody can go into a Long John
Speaker 2: Silvers and eat that delicious chicken. I'm sorry, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna go out and say it. Long John Silvers has
Speaker 2: better chicken tenders than Raising Games. It has better chicken
Speaker 2: than Chick fil a.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 4: It is not even close.
Speaker 3: It's chicken.
Speaker 4: It could be fucking octopus, and I would slurp that
Speaker 4: thing down all day. Well, not an octopus.
Speaker 5: That's what you and I have had this conversation about
Speaker 5: Long John Sowers. I'm not saying it's trash. We tried it.
Speaker 5: It was, it was. I'll say, the chicken there is
Speaker 5: damn good. You want to say, better than canes, There's
Speaker 5: an argument to be made there better than Chick fil a. Okay, Sarah,
Speaker 5: Chick fil A is overrated, dude.
Speaker 4: It's a cult.
Speaker 5: It literally is a cult. Yeah no, dude, it's actually
Speaker 5: like real chicken and it's delicious.
Speaker 2: It's like somebody saying, oh, yeah, my favorite restaurant is
Speaker 2: Chick fil A and I drive a Jeep.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, so you just like cult things. That's
Speaker 4: that's what you do.
Speaker 5: The jeep cult is a real thing. I don't get it.
Speaker 5: I don't understand, like why the people that drive jeeps.
Speaker 5: I get the little rubber ducky thing. Okay, that's fun,
Speaker 5: that's cute. Bro. It's not like a personality trait to
Speaker 5: drive a certain make of vehicle, but these people believe
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 4: It's insane.
Speaker 3: Just as a former Jeep recovering Jeep driver, they really
Speaker 3: do their's own toys. Every year, I go back and
Speaker 3: forth Colorado and then I think maybe Virginia or something,
Speaker 3: and they have Camp Jeep and it's actually the coolest
Speaker 3: thing ever because you get to trash their vehicles and
Speaker 3: you get to push it to the limit. The most
Speaker 3: fun thing. They've got you at these angles, crazy angles
Speaker 3: they've got you driving. Just it's like a big playground
Speaker 3: for kids, for for adult. Yeah, I mean that part
Speaker 3: really really was fun. There was every time you pass
Speaker 3: the GP, you wave and all that. There was a
Speaker 3: there was a camaraderie with that. But that was that
Speaker 3: was a while ago.
Speaker 2: But my dad has a Jeep truck and it's awesome.
Speaker 2: Like those things are sick. I mean it's kind of
Speaker 2: like a little S ten. It's like bringing back the
Speaker 2: S ten vibes, you know.
Speaker 5: I say, when you have to bring back the stick
Speaker 5: shift for banger Ford Ranger. That's just me.
Speaker 3: What was your first car? My first car was a
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy two for Grand Terno. Oh hell yeah, with
Speaker 3: a scoop in the hood, three fifty one V eight Cleveland.
Speaker 5: Whoa, you had some style points on your first vehicle.
Speaker 3: That was my dad's. I got it. I loved it.
Speaker 3: I absolutely loved it. But when he outgrew and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. That was my first car and I babed
Speaker 3: that thing. I mean, it was the keenness. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: was awesome. We had a regular gas. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you remember if the license play down and you'd
Speaker 3: have to do the regular gas. That was a powerful engine.
Speaker 3: That was a lot of fun. Jealous, that was sweet.
Speaker 2: My first vehicle was a Mazda truck. It was a
Speaker 2: Mazda B three thousand or B four thousand or something
Speaker 2: like that, and it was basically a Ford Ranger with
Speaker 2: a Masta logo. That's basically what it was, and it
Speaker 2: was awesome. I loved it until my dad eventually sold it,
Speaker 2: and I was upset because I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I love this truck.
Speaker 4: But he was like, don't worry, just trust me.
Speaker 2: And so for my graduation present, he got me my
Speaker 2: dream car at the time, which was a Spider Eclipse,
Speaker 2: and I always wanted a car like that, and it
Speaker 2: was convertible.
Speaker 4: It was all black.
Speaker 2: It was the this car I drove in my favorite
Speaker 2: racing game whenever I was a little kid, called Juiced,
Speaker 2: and I always tried to soup up this car and everything.
Speaker 2: I had it for a month and I crashed it.
Speaker 2: I went Tokyo drifting around a ninety degree bend and
Speaker 2: it didn't work out very well.
Speaker 5: I did that same thing in my Ranger, which was
Speaker 5: my first truck. By the way, the first car I
Speaker 5: had was a little four banger engine Ford Ranger. It
Speaker 5: was a ninety four stick shift. It had all leak
Speaker 5: it had broken motor mounts, It had blown out speakers,
Speaker 5: It leaked when it rained. That thing was on its
Speaker 5: last leg when I got it. She was a dirty bitch.
Speaker 5: I named a Roshita, and she was a road dog.
Speaker 5: Now she was a hood rat. But she never left
Speaker 5: me on the side of the road, not one time.
Speaker 5: She always pulled through for me. Now, I did, in fact,
Speaker 5: put her into a culvert, and I had to rebuild
Speaker 5: the entire front right side of it because I, as
Speaker 5: well Jonathan, decided I was gonna drift this ranger like
Speaker 5: I was somebody and it had just rained, and I
Speaker 5: slid clear off that road. That light in that light
Speaker 5: back end just slung out from behind me and it
Speaker 5: was over. But yeah, and I was so upset when
Speaker 5: my dad got rid of her too. I went to
Speaker 5: the Marine Corps. I got myself a convertible Mustang, and
Speaker 5: then I got a motorcycle.
Speaker 3: And do you remember the Mustang sailine? Do you remember
Speaker 3: the sale? You remember the SBO biplane spoiler and the
Speaker 3: search excip Oh my god, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Used to know. Mustangs are my favorite cars overall, although
Speaker 5: I will give year distinctions to that. Jonathan and I
Speaker 5: differ very heavily on this one. I do not like
Speaker 5: the eighties and nineties body styles of the Mustangs. I
Speaker 5: like them from sixty four and a half to like
Speaker 5: seventy two, and then pick back up when they brought
Speaker 5: back the retro style, you know. I like that look,
Speaker 5: I like that style, you know. But then it's not
Speaker 5: just Mustangs. Pretty much, all muscle cars from the mid
Speaker 5: early sixties to arguably the mid seventies was just like
Speaker 5: the primo cream of the crop as far as American
Speaker 5: muscle goes. And then they just kind of went weird
Speaker 5: with it, you know. And what's that one from Charlie's Angels,
Speaker 5: the musting that they had in that where they just
Speaker 5: threw cobra on it and just like fordid it and
Speaker 5: it's like, y'all are starting to y'all are starting to
Speaker 5: go a little too much with it, and then it
Speaker 5: just went downhill.
Speaker 2: You weren't a fan of the Fox Body. I actually
Speaker 2: I thought the Fox Body was pretty sweet, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't come close to the sixties Mustang.
Speaker 2: That nineteen sixty seven Shelby GT. Five hundred is Bay
Speaker 2: for life.
Speaker 5: The reason why my daughter's middle name is eleanor so,
Speaker 5: but my ex wife says it's because of her grandmother
Speaker 5: named Eleanor. I'm like, that's cute. This is from going
Speaker 5: to sixty seconds. Whatever you want to tell yourself, you know.
Speaker 2: Classic anyway, all right, well look, uh, Dave interrupting. Dave
Speaker 2: interrupting from the International Space Station. But you were on
Speaker 2: you were on something there before before he came.
Speaker 4: So I'm excited to see.
Speaker 2: Damn, we are forty two minutes into it and we
Speaker 2: haven't got to that.
Speaker 4: But that's all right. It's been fun as hell this
Speaker 4: whole time. I love it.
Speaker 5: Are we all a time crunch today? Anybody?
Speaker 4: I got a drive to Louisiana at some point today.
Speaker 5: But mm hm oh ship, Yeah, you gotta stop on
Speaker 5: my house on your way, don't you do.
Speaker 4: I for the list, the list.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can take a picture of it in Texas
Speaker 5: to you. Either way, it's gonna be fine, Okay, cool.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got back to this share, right, I think
Speaker 3: I have. And you can just see the window, so
Speaker 3: I don't think you're stuck with all my stuff. You're
Speaker 3: all right, we did this already. Let's see.
Speaker 4: There we go get it back.
Speaker 3: Okay, So just to be back to normal. That's not okay,
Speaker 3: let me get rid of this is this uh hm
Speaker 3: hmm okay, yeah, okay, so this one is do you
Speaker 3: guys have that black bar? Is that in your way?
Speaker 3: Did you sing that at all at the okay? Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, So yeah, this is one I thought'd be
Speaker 3: fun for Jacob because the military this was an actual
Speaker 3: map that they used in forty five for strategicy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just thought that was kind of cool that they
Speaker 3: actually they were using a flat earth map. So you'd
Speaker 3: think that they'd want it to be accurate if they're
Speaker 3: they're planning at tax and stuff. Okay, the government documents.
Speaker 3: I didn't say NASA. I'm just I'm sticking to stand
Speaker 3: away from that. But yeah, CIRA, uh C, I A
Speaker 3: all of the three letter agencies, firmament, flat, non rotating,
Speaker 3: all that. So I just thought that was quick. Here
Speaker 3: we go some of the world leaders at the top.
Speaker 3: You've got John F. Kennedy Junior John F. Kennedy, and
Speaker 3: he's got a flat earth map on Air Force one
Speaker 3: in the situation room right flow it. You got Hitler.
Speaker 3: It was actually I mean, you think if he's working
Speaker 3: thinking world domination, he wants the whole picture of the world. Huh,
Speaker 3: and it even even Reagan. So I thought that was interesting,
Speaker 3: and they said I had heard last time that they
Speaker 3: said Trump had one. I didn't see it, and I
Speaker 3: don't have a picture, but I had heard that, So
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I thought, you know, if world
Speaker 3: leaders are buying into it, you and you've seen the
Speaker 3: I didn't want to do that one. I figured that
Speaker 3: was too obviously you go and flag. So okay, so
Speaker 3: our science, here we go, the scientific method. I actually
Speaker 3: used these scientific method and then I've got I had
Speaker 3: a little tiny, a nine part series. I won't go
Speaker 3: through the whole thing, but these are actual experiments that
Speaker 3: they use using the scientific the scientific method, and so
Speaker 3: I explained it, and then uh, there was a these
Speaker 3: are two Hibbler Sohn. Hibler did a whole thing on
Speaker 3: the on these experiments, and then Darren also did a
Speaker 3: whole series on these. And then I went through each
Speaker 3: of their experiments that this one failed to detect the
Speaker 3: motion of the earth. These are my poems. But I'm
Speaker 3: just going kind of sort of quickly that oh.
Speaker 2: No, we're not in a we're not in a super rush.
Speaker 2: We can we can go through them. Yeah, we still
Speaker 2: got some time. Plenty of times.
Speaker 5: Audio listeners are gonna definitely want to know what we're
Speaker 5: talking about here, So let's let's read some of these things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be fun, all right.
Speaker 3: And the fun part about this, I guess it says
Speaker 3: it in here, is that they're trying to disprove the flatter.
Speaker 3: They're trying to prove this man, so which is for
Speaker 3: me the fun part. Where it gets there, they have
Speaker 3: an outcome that they want and it doesn't work. So
Speaker 3: I love this. So the irony of this experiment, dubbed
Speaker 3: Aley's Aris failure, was that it failed to detect the
Speaker 3: motion of the Earth, meaning it did not give the
Speaker 3: contrarians the desired answer, since that's not how science works.
Speaker 3: The experiment in eighteen seventy one by Royal astronomer astronomer
Speaker 3: George Biddle Airy should the stars move around the stationary
Speaker 3: surface of the Earth, quite upsetting his adversaries, the incoming
Speaker 3: light moved past his fixed telescope, a fact about which
Speaker 3: the scientific community could not cope. To this day, this
Speaker 3: experiment is never taught at the university level, as it
Speaker 3: would expose lies about which the students might revel The space, universe,
Speaker 3: and Big Bang evolution. It just end his all that.
Speaker 3: But so that that was my area's failure Michaelson Morally experiment.
Speaker 3: They showed that it was fixed and at rest. But
Speaker 3: I went through all all of these and did the
Speaker 3: deep dive enough so I could understand enough that I
Speaker 3: could explain it and then put it into a poem.
Speaker 3: So even with the math, I'll do this one. Here's
Speaker 3: another experiment with a devastating result by decimating Einstein's theory
Speaker 3: of relativity, adding injury to insult again. A beam of
Speaker 3: light is split, traveling in two different directions, but along
Speaker 3: the same path. There are mirrors, spinning, interference calculations, and
Speaker 3: then some complicated math, ultimately providing light of ultimately proving
Speaker 3: light travels through ether, but which Einstein had theory to
Speaker 3: work attempted to abolish. But since this outcome in nineteen
Speaker 3: thirteen proved no vacuum exists, Einstein's theory was effectively demolished.
Speaker 3: This should have been the end of it, Yet the
Speaker 3: reaction was complete and utter denial by physicists across the
Speaker 3: board who couldn't accept it, or cross that accept it,
Speaker 3: or cross the flat stationary plane aisle. They couldn't get
Speaker 3: over there. They just still there's still the cognitive dissonance.
Speaker 3: They just still even though people they're proving it. While
Speaker 3: Mickelson Morley experiment showed that no rotation of the Earth
Speaker 3: was detected, the Sangnac effect proved ether but no vacuum
Speaker 3: as had been expected. To identify the angular velocity of
Speaker 3: the Earth. Mickelson Gate Michelsingale created an extremely large ring
Speaker 3: inter interferometer using two different sized rectangles over distance of
Speaker 3: nearly two kilometers. By combining the two previous experiments into
Speaker 3: this scientific array, they concluded that as the ether passed
Speaker 3: across the surface of the Earth, it completed one exact
Speaker 3: revolution per day. This experiment offered a two part confirmation
Speaker 3: not only that one there was an ether, but two
Speaker 3: it made it a daily rotation above the stationary Earth.
Speaker 3: Through scientism, the scientism accepted neither sorry ether, neither is
Speaker 3: supposed to rhyme.
Speaker 4: That's perfect.
Speaker 2: I like whenever people use the term scientism, because it
Speaker 2: actually is a religious it's a religion, a religious kind
Speaker 2: of thing. Because people just go to accept it. Nobody
Speaker 2: goes and checks, you know, the actual the math work
Speaker 2: behind it.
Speaker 4: Because it's impossible to check it.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what half those squiggly things mean,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, And maybe I'm just a
Speaker 2: little slow. Maybe the majority of people actually do understand it.
Speaker 2: But I feel like, you know, they've said that Einstein
Speaker 2: had to put in certain placeholders in order for a
Speaker 2: lot of his math to make sense, and the vacuum
Speaker 2: of space being one of them. He was one that
Speaker 2: took out the ether, which I thought was pretty interesting
Speaker 2: because so many other scientists were including it. As far
Speaker 2: as the ether goes, it was a commonly accepted thing
Speaker 2: up until the day of Einstein, was the idea of ether.
Speaker 3: I mean, look on the period.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I think that we absolutely we have
Speaker 2: to include the ether because how else do we know,
Speaker 2: Like think about it. Where where our spirits and ghosts
Speaker 2: and angels and demons and all these things? Like where's
Speaker 2: the Wi Fi? Where's the radio waves?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like something has to exist all around us that we
Speaker 2: can't see in order for these things to travel. It's
Speaker 2: not just going to travel through air. It has to
Speaker 2: travel through some kind of medium. And that's what a
Speaker 2: lot are not a medium though, I mean, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to I guess I don't understand it
Speaker 2: well enough to even really debate you on that.
Speaker 4: It's just that I know that a lot of people within, you.
Speaker 2: Know, in my crowd, the magic crowd and the witchy
Speaker 2: kind of crowd, like ether is an understood it's an
Speaker 2: understood things.
Speaker 3: In that kind of stuff. If you did. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: a quick aside, I'm not I know you guys are
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna lead you as listenings at last, But
Speaker 3: I was laughing so hard because there'd be these breaks
Speaker 3: and it's like Donovan and Jacob are just like going
Speaker 3: out and it's like, okay, I'll come back on the back.
Speaker 3: It's just really funny. I love it. I love the interaction.
Speaker 3: So I'm not trying to derail it. Oh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5: This is no You're fine that I wasn't even trying
Speaker 5: to like give a sticking point to it. It's just
Speaker 5: I'm trying to make sure I'm on the same page here.
Speaker 5: Like I'm not negating ether being a thing, but I
Speaker 5: also see air as a medium, so I'm not I'm
Speaker 5: not trying to steal man nothing. I'm just making sure
Speaker 5: we're all on the same page.
Speaker 2: It's all well, and to point out to it, you know,
Speaker 2: the the idea of a pentagram. So not to get
Speaker 2: to a culty here, but in a pentagram, one of
Speaker 2: those points represents the ether, you know, and so it is.
Speaker 2: It is something that a lot of people within the
Speaker 2: occult even know. And if we know that the that
Speaker 2: the elites of the world, the globalists of the world,
Speaker 2: whoever the illuminati are, are absolutely using pentagrams. I mean
Speaker 2: it has been a sign of Satanism for how long
Speaker 2: we say that they're all Satanic?
Speaker 4: They're using the fucking pentagram. The ether is in the pentagram.
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's how I draw my.
Speaker 2: Conclusions to their absolutely being you know ether personally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I told my mom, is like, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if you believe in the Satanists or all
Speaker 3: that stuff they do.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're yeah, absolutely, And the same thing goes
Speaker 2: for you know, the old adage of millionaires don't use
Speaker 2: astrology billionaires to you know, like, it is strange how
Speaker 2: somebody can look at their exact astrological chart and it
Speaker 2: is purposely like it is exactly them. Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: you might have disagree with it. But I guarantee you
Speaker 2: somebody close to you would absolutely say, oh, yeah, that's you.
Speaker 2: Because sometimes we don't want to accept some of our faults,
Speaker 2: We don't want to accept some of our characteristics. Oh
Speaker 2: you know, like I don't believe I'm very stubborn, but
Speaker 2: everybody who knows me thinks that that I'm stubborn.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm a tour's that's just one of the
Speaker 4: facets of it.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, I I did a flip because this
Speaker 3: is to think astronomy, studying of the stars, you know,
Speaker 3: the study of the stars. I thought that was right,
Speaker 3: and then astrong astrology was, you know, wacko stuff. We're
Speaker 3: talking about. Brandon Thomas, the Expanding Reality. His wife Mary
Speaker 3: had done a chart for my birthday. She did a
Speaker 3: chart for me, and it was the things that she
Speaker 3: came up with. There's no way she could have known.
Speaker 3: There's absolutely no way. And it was just like just
Speaker 3: phenomenally all these little like you were saying, the squiggles,
Speaker 3: I don't understand squiggles on that time, but she had
Speaker 3: all these squiggles everywhere, and she explained it. I could
Speaker 3: understand what she was saying. It was she did a great,
Speaker 3: amazing job, and it was spot on. It wouldn't have
Speaker 3: made any sense she's done that for my husband, have
Speaker 3: made anything my daughter, it wouldn't have made any sense.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have matched. But for me, it was just
Speaker 3: like unbelievably accurate, you know. So that's that's just fascinating.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I mean, they say, you know you are stardust in
Speaker 2: a way, you know, like everything here on earth has
Speaker 2: some remnants of stardust, and so you know that's kind
Speaker 2: of our heritage in a sense. So why would we
Speaker 2: not pay attention to the heritage? That is the stars
Speaker 2: that as soon as you're born, And it is strange,
Speaker 2: like trying to wrap your mind around it, like the moment,
Speaker 2: not like not like the day, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: but down to the minute it is perfect for you
Speaker 2: that all of those stars are shining down on you
Speaker 2: at that exact moment, and somehow all of the characteristics
Speaker 2: for that moment are encompassed within everything that is you.
Speaker 2: Like that is it just blows my mind, Like whenever
Speaker 2: you try and wrap your mind around how astrology works
Speaker 2: and how the stars you know, have some kind of
Speaker 2: implication on your life moving forward, almost like, I don't
Speaker 2: personally like using the word fate or even destiny, to
Speaker 2: be honest with you, because I like to think that
Speaker 2: there is such thing as free will. But I'm also
Speaker 2: kind of getting more in tune with the idea of like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe maybe it is kind of written
Speaker 2: in the stars, and no matter what decision we make,
Speaker 2: it always leads us to the same conclusion either way.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a possibility.
Speaker 5: I believe both are happening at the same time.
Speaker 4: You know, fate and destiny.
Speaker 5: You mean free will and fate?
Speaker 4: Oh okay, interesting take.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it's probably most likely working that
Speaker 2: way because it does kind of feel like your life
Speaker 2: is a bit of a movie, and like there's all
Speaker 2: these plots and there's a beginning, there's a middle, there's
Speaker 2: an end, there's all these chapters, and you need every
Speaker 2: one of these chapters to become the person you're going
Speaker 2: to be. And how are you going to become the
Speaker 2: person you're going to be if you don't have to
Speaker 2: go through those chats?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's it is fascinating that we my husband I kept
Speaker 3: missing each other, missing each other. I went to college
Speaker 3: at guildfer college and rings run North Carolina, and he
Speaker 3: was at Fort Bragg and so were We're down there
Speaker 3: at the same time. And then we both worked. I
Speaker 3: worked for a company at the headquarters in near DC
Speaker 3: and then he ended up being a contractor to that company.
Speaker 3: So we worked with things. Then we did we talked
Speaker 3: about the exercise. We did the functional, full scale functional exercises.
Speaker 3: We did big one in Virginia Beach, huge massive exercise.
Speaker 3: They brought everything. We didn't know it when we planned.
Speaker 3: The owners of our company had been retired military, so
Speaker 3: they had connections. They brought in the they brought in
Speaker 3: special forces, they brought in some of some some secret guys,
Speaker 3: and so my husband was at this exercise that was
Speaker 3: our from our company. We put on the big They
Speaker 3: had Virginia b Said, but they had all the surrounding areas,
Speaker 3: so it was huge. It was massive, and they were
Speaker 3: doing it. EOD got the Explosive Ordnance Disposal guys, they
Speaker 3: had tech escor Dad and they had all the every
Speaker 3: we that we were playing with on the not black
Speaker 3: you know, on the public side. And then it sounds
Speaker 3: out they piggybacked onto our exercise and they were doing
Speaker 3: an exercise using our stuff. So he was at this exercise.
Speaker 3: It was before like four years before we met, and
Speaker 3: then they were like, there were three or four things
Speaker 3: like that where we kept kind of missing each other.
Speaker 3: And then he was at the Nevada Testa he was
Speaker 3: working there, and then that's when I came out there
Speaker 3: with Justice and we met on my birthday, so exactly
Speaker 3: twenty four years ago we met. And electricity. I mean,
Speaker 3: I've never experienced anything like that. They say, oh, love
Speaker 3: it first sight, and it's like, no, no, no, it
Speaker 3: was We shook hands and it was just I melted
Speaker 3: and it was amazing. And then we started dating in June,
Speaker 3: got engaged in July, I got married August, and that
Speaker 3: was the that was it was quick. But when we
Speaker 3: did find each other finally, then it stuck, you know,
Speaker 3: and they were like, okay, okay, now we got the
Speaker 3: right person.
Speaker 5: Hey.
Speaker 4: I mean it's like they always say, when you know,
Speaker 4: you know, you know that's crazy.
Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, just more experience. They did tons
Speaker 3: of experience experiments and then so I started doing my own.
Speaker 3: So those were those real official experiments.
Speaker 5: And then I want to ask you about this on
Speaker 5: the Bedford level experiment. Yeah, So the Bedford level experiment
Speaker 5: not trying to detract, but actually proved that the Earth
Speaker 5: was spherical. So the fact you're bringing up on a
Speaker 5: flat one, I'm assuming that you have something afterwards to
Speaker 5: detract from it, right, I.
Speaker 3: Am using it to prove it because of the length,
Speaker 3: the distance that they could see, so.
Speaker 5: Six miles right, Yes?
Speaker 3: Is it okay to go ahead and read this? Is
Speaker 3: that please? Okay? Samuel Robotham and Lady Elizabeth Blount just aside,
Speaker 3: real quick, she wrote flat earth poems. I didn't know this.
Speaker 3: Eric Dubay told me about this. He sent me her poems,
Speaker 3: her poetry. She did a magazine of flat Earth magazine,
Speaker 3: and this is like in the late eighties. I mean,
Speaker 3: how cool is that? I was just I thought it
Speaker 3: was neat that Debay thought of me and then made
Speaker 3: the connection and said, hey, here's another woman who did
Speaker 3: flat earth poems.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, you know, Debay. I that's honestly. One of
Speaker 2: the biggest rabbit holes that I got into with flat
Speaker 2: earth was because of people like Eric Dubay, because he
Speaker 2: just rattles off so many things back to back to
Speaker 2: back to back. He's so knowledgeable about all things flat Earth,
Speaker 2: and I mean, yes, they're all kind of flattereth talking points,
Speaker 2: but it's interesting from his perspective. But the thing that
Speaker 2: I have a problem with Eric Debay though he's he
Speaker 2: never goes on any shows, he never debates anybody or anything,
Speaker 2: so he's just sticking to himself.
Speaker 4: And well he's been.
Speaker 3: Doing interviews, but he's very selective, he's very crazy. I
Speaker 3: don't think he wants to be attacked or just story port.
Speaker 3: Look what Dave's going through with Dave Woice. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: he's going through this, so I don't think he needs
Speaker 3: he didn't want to deal with that.
Speaker 4: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I've got I've got tons of his books,
Speaker 3: I got all, you know, obviously all of his books.
Speaker 3: But I think he's he's just amazing. But it was
Speaker 3: cool that there was a connection with her. So Samuel
Speaker 3: robertam and Lady Elizabeth Blount Blunt Blunt offered two distinct
Speaker 3: tests on this research project. Their level presumption by citing
Speaker 3: specific values over six miles away down a straight canal,
Speaker 3: proved correct. Project correct, supposing the circumference of the Earth
Speaker 3: was about twenty five thousand miles the surface of standing
Speaker 3: water would be part of the arc of that circle,
Speaker 3: and curvature should have been obvious in these trials. In
Speaker 3: eighteen thirty eight, Samuel used a telescope following a boat's
Speaker 3: flag as it rowed away. In nineteen oh four, Elizabeth
Speaker 3: employed a telescopic lens camera that observed the entire white
Speaker 3: sheet during her survey. So they did twice applying the
Speaker 3: formula eight inches from miles squared. They expected a drop
Speaker 3: of twenty four feet with no hocus pocus or sleight
Speaker 3: of hand. These experiments are still both easy to repeat.
Speaker 3: Each target from Welniye Bridge to Bedford Bridge provided a
Speaker 3: plainly visible format showing water always sinks its level. I'm
Speaker 3: proving that the Earth is undeniably and indisputably flat.
Speaker 5: So I remember reading about this once upon a time,
Speaker 5: and the experiment was only at a distance of six
Speaker 5: miles And what was the guy's name? Hold on, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna google it real quick. There was a guy that
Speaker 5: came on and basically said, yeah, well the water, you
Speaker 5: have to account for the refraction of it, uh Rosmond experiment.
Speaker 5: Ho hold on here Wallace. Somebody named Wallace fixed the
Speaker 5: experiment by reducing the atmospheric refraction. I'm again, I'm not
Speaker 5: a physicist. I don't exactly know what he means by
Speaker 5: atmospheric refraction. But I feel like and people have said
Speaker 5: this one a bunch too, as far as like you
Speaker 5: could just follow a boat on the horizon, and for
Speaker 5: centuries they've understood that you could watch the sails go
Speaker 5: down over the edge of the curvature of the Earth.
Speaker 5: And then you have people say, no, not at all
Speaker 5: the case.
Speaker 3: Here can zoom right in and pull that puppy right
Speaker 3: back up. You can't have a camera zoom in over
Speaker 3: an edge of anything, so and you can in the bottom.
Speaker 3: I know it's done this a million times. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying anything new, but like you said, if you've got
Speaker 3: if I've got something, what if I got something here,
Speaker 3: it'll block if it's like on the wave in front,
Speaker 3: it'll block whatever, like block my chin. So it doesn't
Speaker 3: even have to be far away. It can be you know,
Speaker 3: close to you. If there's a waves or something like
Speaker 3: that in the atmosphere. It's a atmospheric what was it
Speaker 3: calls its opacity atmospheric opiece. Yeah, yeah, I mean with
Speaker 3: all the and well, like when you look through a
Speaker 3: swimming pool. That's a thickness the deep, you know, the water,
Speaker 3: but as you get away, you can't see the numbers
Speaker 3: of the foot numbers of you know, the farther way
Speaker 3: you get because of how thick it is. That's just
Speaker 3: a different way of like a more obvious way of
Speaker 3: showing that just water instead of just atmosphere.
Speaker 5: Atmospheric capacity is also why we can look at a sunrise,
Speaker 5: but we can't stare at the sun at high noon, right,
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, physically you can. You shouldn't, but you can.
Speaker 5: But in the morning you're looking through I think it's
Speaker 5: four foot of water and two foot of dirt. Like
Speaker 5: as far as just what's the particulate's in the air
Speaker 5: that's kind of blocking the direct rays of the sun
Speaker 5: from you. So yeah, and Jonathan, do you still do
Speaker 5: sun gazing? I know you were about it.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that, I was wondering. Yeah, Sean
Speaker 3: Nibbler does that. They're really big into that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I don't do it very often, but every
Speaker 2: time I'm outside the sun whenever the sun is obviously
Speaker 2: not at noon or one or eleven or something like that,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that because my eyes just aren't properly
Speaker 2: adjusted yet.
Speaker 4: But I do know a lot of people.
Speaker 2: That do sun gaze, and you know, they're kind of
Speaker 2: experienced in that in that set, but they always say, look,
Speaker 2: start in the for the sunrise or the sunset and
Speaker 2: stare at it then and get your eyes like, you know,
Speaker 2: accustomed to that level of brightness and everything. And actually,
Speaker 2: after a while of doing that repeatedly, they say they
Speaker 2: have no problems staring at the sunlight and at noon,
Speaker 2: like it's something that your eyes become a adjusted to
Speaker 2: because and you know, the whole idea, don't stare at
Speaker 2: the sun. It's gonna make you go blind or whatever.
Speaker 5: Dude.
Speaker 2: No, like all the people that I follow that are
Speaker 2: staring at the sun, it's like it's really good for you,
Speaker 2: Like it's it's actually some people even say that it helps, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, decorrode that pinial gland a little bit too.
Speaker 2: But it is interesting and I've I've talked about it
Speaker 2: before about how I stare at the sun, and it's
Speaker 2: strange whenever you stare at the sun, your your eyes
Speaker 2: finally get accustomed to it and you're like, oh, that's
Speaker 2: what it looks like. It's like it almost looks like
Speaker 2: a portal, like I always I always say that it's
Speaker 2: kind of like a doctor Strange opening up one of
Speaker 2: those portals, and it looks like sparks going all around
Speaker 2: the edges.
Speaker 4: It is crazy, and.
Speaker 2: It almost looks like like a I don't want to
Speaker 2: say a black hole, but it looks portal esque in
Speaker 2: a weird way. And why would it be that way?
Speaker 2: You know, like you're supposed to be a burning hot
Speaker 2: ball of gas? Why are why am.
Speaker 4: I looking into this hole?
Speaker 5: But could that be the sun burning a spot in
Speaker 5: your retina from staring at it? And that's why it
Speaker 5: goes black?
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't you think that I would be
Speaker 2: blind or I would have terrible eyesight if that was
Speaker 2: the case.
Speaker 5: It takes more than a few times. I mean, oh
Speaker 5: I say that there.
Speaker 4: I mean thousands of times people are doing this.
Speaker 5: Sixties there were the solar eclipse in either the sixties
Speaker 5: or the seventies, and everybody went outside to look at it,
Speaker 5: and then a bunch of them went blind because they
Speaker 5: didn't use the proper glasses for it.
Speaker 2: And shit, eclipses are different though, and and I don't
Speaker 2: want to speak on that too.
Speaker 4: Much.
Speaker 2: But they always say you shouldn't stare into an eclipse.
Speaker 2: Some people actually say it's like dark energy, bad energy,
Speaker 2: whatever the.
Speaker 4: Case may be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a lot of people were like getting sick
Speaker 2: over what was the last like big solar eclipse that
Speaker 2: we had, a lot of people were getting sick by
Speaker 2: staring at it. It's like some weird negative dense frequency
Speaker 2: or something that your body is taking on. So there's
Speaker 2: just something else to do with an eclipse. I'm not
Speaker 2: suggesting anybody stare into an eclipse. But the sun, that's dude.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. We wouldn't exist without the sun.
Speaker 2: The plants wouldn't exist without the sun. The animals wouldn't
Speaker 2: exist without the sun. We would have no fucking life
Speaker 2: here if it wasn't for the sun.
Speaker 4: So why are we.
Speaker 5: Scared of it?
Speaker 3: Have you know what Crow Trible seven? Love him but
Speaker 3: I know you guys know him, But I mean, have
Speaker 3: you seen the new stuff that he's done on the
Speaker 3: sun with his son telescope. It is mind blowing and
Speaker 3: it looks like again, this was I keep doing this,
Speaker 3: but it's it was Brandon Thomas. It was expanding reality
Speaker 3: and then they did it was the afterthought that they
Speaker 3: dove into this and he was showing the animate the
Speaker 3: actual movement of the sun. It had the dark circle
Speaker 3: and it looked like it was going into the center.
Speaker 3: And to me, it looked like really grapefruit where it
Speaker 3: has all that little pulp, the little pulp lines. It
Speaker 3: looked like that, and it was moving and it was
Speaker 3: like going into that hole in the center. And this
Speaker 3: is crow. I mean, as much research as he's done,
Speaker 3: I give him so much credibility. He doesn't have anything,
Speaker 3: you know, to lie about. Imagine, it's just a fascinating
Speaker 3: showing his solar what is it solar lens that he's
Speaker 3: using now and what they were showing. If you guys
Speaker 3: get to see it, it's beyond I can't even explain
Speaker 3: how unbelievably cool it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And another thing that he's been trying to prove is
Speaker 2: the second son. And he believes that he's actually gotten
Speaker 2: proof of a second son hiding behind our son.
Speaker 4: And a lot of.
Speaker 2: People actually believe that the eclipse actually isn't even the
Speaker 2: thing that is covering up. They don't believe that the
Speaker 2: moon is covering up or the earth shadow is covering
Speaker 2: up the Sun. During an eclipse, they believe that it
Speaker 2: could possibly some people say it's the nodes.
Speaker 4: Some people also say that it could be the Second
Speaker 4: Son or the black Sun, And so maybe that's why
Speaker 4: it's not.
Speaker 2: Good for you to stare up at the solar eclipse,
Speaker 2: you know, like because maybe it just intensifies or some
Speaker 2: kind of different kind of radiation or something like that.
Speaker 4: But I'm interested.
Speaker 2: I mean I don't buy Look, I'm somebody I If
Speaker 2: science says one thing, I'm assuming there are other options,
Speaker 2: like whenever you know, NASA or the ISS or any
Speaker 2: of these, like telescopes. I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: Some of the telescope images are freaking awesome. I don't
Speaker 2: trust them. I want to trust them, but you've lied
Speaker 2: to us so many times.
Speaker 3: Telescopes are hooked up computers, so when you focus on something,
Speaker 3: it goes to the computer and it goes, oh, this
Speaker 3: is what you're looking at, and it's like, oh, come on,
Speaker 3: And I mean that's not even you know, using your
Speaker 3: own telescope and looking and seeing it like the watery
Speaker 3: kaleidoscopy looking colors shifting to me is what people are
Speaker 3: seeing through their telescopes. But when you hook it up
Speaker 3: to the computer. It's filtered, and they're like, yes, this
Speaker 3: is put in your coordinates. Yes, this is what you're seeing.
Speaker 3: And it's like you're telling you're putting in a picture
Speaker 3: of what you think I'm seeing. I mean, this is
Speaker 3: I hate it.
Speaker 2: And it's not that far fetched to even make an
Speaker 2: example like that because the Android phones that came out
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. If you point your phone
Speaker 2: your camera up to the moon, it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I can zoom in on the Moon. Then people found out, oh,
Speaker 2: it's actually just a it's just like a filter that
Speaker 2: your phone is filling in the rest of the of
Speaker 2: the resolution in order to give off the the illusion
Speaker 2: that you're looking at the moon. But I think that
Speaker 2: that's probably the case for a lot of space images.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean the sun gazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody, but honestly, but no sun gazing. I think
Speaker 2: that everybody should try it started, you know, whenever the
Speaker 2: sun is rising or whenever the sun's setting, just stare
Speaker 2: at it, like don't like I mean you can blink,
Speaker 2: you know, but and don't wear sunglasses or anything like that,
Speaker 2: Like you want to take that in. It's allegedly really
Speaker 2: good for you. And I've been doing it for years now.
Speaker 2: Occasionally I probably do it a couple of times a
Speaker 2: month or whatever. And I have better sight than anybody
Speaker 2: that I know. Like there people are like, what do
Speaker 2: you eat a lot of carrots? No, I don't need
Speaker 2: a lot of carrots. I do like carrots. But you know,
Speaker 2: I think that I attributed to the sun gazing personally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you guys have had yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: And but he he does that and they say it's
Speaker 3: like a it can be a come out, like a
Speaker 3: spiritual experience. They said, it's just really incredible, really deep.
Speaker 3: Really it gets really into your see. And also just
Speaker 3: to play Devil's advocate, just David Weiss before they had
Speaker 3: that big eclipse and everyone's doing their stupid glasses and stuff,
Speaker 3: and he's like, uh huh. He once he stared right
Speaker 3: at it. No problem. He's not blind, he's not done
Speaker 3: have eye problems or anything like that. So just so
Speaker 3: you see the other side that I'm not saying what
Speaker 3: to do. And he did not recommend for anybody else.
Speaker 3: He just said what he did.
Speaker 5: And interesting he believes in staring into the eclipse.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no problem. He's like I'm not looking away.
Speaker 3: And know, you know the people he was with then
Speaker 3: what he looked away, and they are not they're not blind,
Speaker 3: they're not destroyed or retinas or fine everything. So he
Speaker 3: thinks that's just another whatever. I didn't do it. It
Speaker 3: wasn't close enough he or anything. But he and his group,
Speaker 3: you know, they said we did it. And he's just
Speaker 3: saying from his experience.
Speaker 4: So I mean, just think about it.
Speaker 2: Science is always not even just science, but just the
Speaker 2: powers that be in general, which I think, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: have a lot of leverage with science personally.
Speaker 4: I mean, they pay off.
Speaker 2: We've seen it time and time again within the pharmaceutical industry.
Speaker 4: But think about it like this.
Speaker 2: If science is saying it's bad for you to stare
Speaker 2: at the sun and then other wear sunscreen.
Speaker 3: That's the worst thing. I tried to tell my parents that,
Speaker 3: and they don't get I told them about the fluoride
Speaker 3: in the water and the toothpaste.
Speaker 4: Yep, we got rid of all.
Speaker 3: That's a long time we were using them. Bend Tonight Clay,
Speaker 3: Ben Tonight Clay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, awesome, awesome, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and what I was gonna say, as far as
Speaker 2: the sun goes I mean they're always trying to block
Speaker 2: out the sun. I mean, that's what the chemtrails are
Speaker 2: designed to do, is to block out the sun. I mean,
Speaker 2: you think they're doing that for your health. You think
Speaker 2: they're doing that because they care about you. You think
Speaker 2: they're actually doing it because they actually believe in global warming.
Speaker 4: It's a it's a oax. It's not real. It's a cash.
Speaker 5: Crab ice caps are melting Jonathan obviously.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Okay, well it's something natural that the Earth
Speaker 2: does every few thousand years, but all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you know, because what we do to attribute to that,
Speaker 2: it's speeding it up. I don't buy that for one second.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I just I disagree. I think
Speaker 2: that the sun is really good for you. It's a
Speaker 2: reason why so many cultures worshiped it. Think about it,
Speaker 2: like why everything, And now.
Speaker 4: They're trying to block it out. They're trying to keep
Speaker 4: everybody inside. Nobody really goes outside anymore. Like, yes, do
Speaker 4: the opposite of whatever they tell you. You're usually gonna
Speaker 4: it's usually gonna work out pretty good for you.
Speaker 3: It was again that girl Nicole Murphy who is doing
Speaker 3: the flatter stuff. She said, did the same thing, and
Speaker 3: she said that going she took her kids. She homeschooled
Speaker 3: her kids also, and she said they'd be outside between
Speaker 3: one and between eleven and two every day. First of all,
Speaker 3: there was nobody there, nobody at the park, nobody at
Speaker 3: the beach, nobody whatever. They're scared and they're inside. And
Speaker 3: first she had free run. But she said, I mean
Speaker 3: her kids were so healthy. And yeah, the whole, the
Speaker 3: whole scam about that just really sucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sunscreen is one of the biggest scams out there.
Speaker 3: Like that comes out in the cancer skin cancer, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just rises with it and pop or like,
Speaker 2: well they just started documenting you. That's the reason why
Speaker 2: the scale is going up. I'm like, come on, dude, Like, no,
Speaker 2: like sun is good for you, go out and play
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 5: I get burned like a motherfucker though, So that's why
Speaker 5: I cover up and wear flannel year round.
Speaker 2: So well, they say, actually, whenever you go outside in
Speaker 2: the sun, you shouldn't. They say, actually, sunglasses are bad
Speaker 2: for you, I.
Speaker 3: Cause your eyes think that it's darker, so they don't
Speaker 3: put out whatever protective skin coating or whatever to protect
Speaker 3: you from the sun. So you got sunglasses on, your
Speaker 3: eyes think, oh, it's dark out, so I don't need
Speaker 3: to protect myself instead of being without sunglasses, and your
Speaker 3: body goes, oh, I need to protect my skin.
Speaker 2: Right, it's not to say that you know, you're not
Speaker 2: gonna get burnt if you're if you're not wearing sunglasses,
Speaker 2: It's just that your eyes are reacting and your eyes
Speaker 2: are think about it like this, like whenever you have
Speaker 2: a negative thought, your whole body feels like really bad. Right,
Speaker 2: Like it's not just in your brain. It almost like
Speaker 2: encompasses your whole body. That's why they say whenever you
Speaker 2: think negative thoughts or think negatively, it makes you sick. Well,
Speaker 2: the same thing goes for your eyes. You know, whenever
Speaker 2: you have sunglasses on, you're outside on a sunny day,
Speaker 2: your mind thinks that it's not sunny because it sees that, right,
Speaker 2: And so now your body it's almost like our body
Speaker 2: are these magnificent machines that it incorporates all of the
Speaker 2: senses and it uses those senses to be able to,
Speaker 2: you know, uh, do whatever it does with the rest
Speaker 2: of the body. So if you're outside, you got sunglasses on,
Speaker 2: your mind, your body, everything else that is incorporated in
Speaker 2: your body thinks that it's actually pretty shady outside, so
Speaker 2: you don't need to protect your body in the way
Speaker 2: that it does. It's naturally adapting. Like your body is
Speaker 2: a fucking like you think chamellions are awesome, dude, No,
Speaker 2: Like the human body is way cooler adapting.
Speaker 5: Big dog. I got a lot of Irish in my genetics,
Speaker 5: and the sun is not my homie in that regard. Yeah. No,
Speaker 5: I'm with you on the sunscreen stuff. For sure. I'm
Speaker 5: not a big proponent of it. But yeah, if I
Speaker 5: don't cover up, I blister when I sunburned. It's not
Speaker 5: like I'm read for a day or two. I'm read
Speaker 5: for like three weeks, and I'd rather die so.
Speaker 4: Well, you're in Louisiana. Look like your people the crawdads.
Speaker 5: No fuck no, I'd rather not live in pain constantly.
Speaker 5: I'll just stick to my jeans and flannel year round.
Speaker 5: I'm good.
Speaker 2: Just try it next time you go outside, don't wear
Speaker 2: sunglasses and see what happens. I bet you your sunburn
Speaker 2: isn't going to be as bad.
Speaker 4: I bet you.
Speaker 2: Okay, you never know until you try. Anyway, Sorry about that, Tam,
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 3: This is good. I love this, this is fun. This
Speaker 3: is what you guys, this is you, this is there's
Speaker 3: one more thing where he was talking about Einstein before
Speaker 3: I started doing when I was doing the nuclear weapons holks,
Speaker 3: I started reading about Einstein. His I think his wife
Speaker 3: wrote a lot of that math. They went to school together,
Speaker 3: she wrote a lot of it. As soon as they
Speaker 3: got divorced. He didn't do any more papers anymore stuff
Speaker 3: they said he was it had a really weird word.
Speaker 3: He did base a sumptions off something, some weird word
Speaker 3: or something. But he never wrote any more papers. He
Speaker 3: didn't more. Here's this incredible brain. They didn't have him
Speaker 3: on the Manhattan Project. They didn't all these things. They
Speaker 3: were just kind of a little odd for this this
Speaker 3: great incredible brain. And it sounds like his wife helt
Speaker 3: write a lot of it, and then they even talked
Speaker 3: about it in letters back and forth, and they E
Speaker 3: equals mc square is not in his nineteen o five
Speaker 3: paper that was I keep getting these AHAs and I'm like,
Speaker 3: are you kidding me? They said he wrote something that
Speaker 3: was similar to it, and then he referred to it
Speaker 3: later in a paper like in the in like in
Speaker 3: the twenties or something or forties or something later. But
Speaker 3: I always thought equals mc square was Einstein. He came
Speaker 3: up with it, he pushed it. He that was his baby.
Speaker 3: That's what he was known for, is what I thought.
Speaker 3: But so, all right, there's more research, more deep times.
Speaker 3: This was interesting. So there's disc goes, I don't have
Speaker 3: a thing on this. But when they kept talking about
Speaker 3: the sea level was going to rise if all the
Speaker 3: global warming and if the ice all the icebergs melted,
Speaker 3: or ice or whatever an Arctica or the Arctic Circle,
Speaker 3: whatever they melted, the sea level would rise. There's a
Speaker 3: guy who didn't experiment. He had a cup of water
Speaker 3: and he put tons of ice and it was overflowing,
Speaker 3: like ice was totally totally overflowing. So the ice up
Speaker 3: on top, so you'd think when it melts, it's gonna
Speaker 3: spill over. There's so there's the air in the ice,
Speaker 3: and it's already accounted for the volunt on the volume displacement.
Speaker 3: So when the ice melted it was exactly the same level.
Speaker 3: Is that crazy? And that's something that anybody can do.
Speaker 3: That's why I like that as the stuff that we
Speaker 3: can do that you don't have to be. But I
Speaker 3: did it. I did it on the counter and I'd
Speaker 3: had tons of ice on it, super high, and it's
Speaker 3: like when this melts and it just flattened out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel the same way like it, you know,
Speaker 2: the whole carbon debate, Like there's not more carbon, there's
Speaker 2: not gonna be more water.
Speaker 4: It's all the same amount of water and beast if they.
Speaker 3: Want to get rid of the carbon, weird carbon basically exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean, how obvious that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well they hate us, you know.
Speaker 3: Okay, So this is another experiment that they talked about.
Speaker 3: Was that that that curved shadow. They said, if it's
Speaker 3: a round ball casting a shadow on another around object,
Speaker 3: you think it would be a round shadow, right. I
Speaker 3: just assume that I just expected that whatever, like the
Speaker 3: curve with the like the moon. When you see crescent,
Speaker 3: waning crescent, all those gibbus whatever they are, you see
Speaker 3: a curve, right, and that's supposed to be the Earth
Speaker 3: blocking the light to the moon, right, Isn't that what
Speaker 3: we're supposed to think? So I did the experiment where
Speaker 3: I did a round watermelon with a round apple. Look
Speaker 3: at that line, So the shadow is at the bottom
Speaker 3: left on if you can see the shadow is straight.
Speaker 3: So on the top of a round shape on a
Speaker 3: round object makes a straight line, which is completely illogical
Speaker 3: to me, but I did it. And then a round
Speaker 3: shape on a flat object gives a curved line. So
Speaker 3: either that says that the whatever it would say I'm
Speaker 3: not even gonna guess, but that either the sun or
Speaker 3: the either the moon or the whatever would be flat.
Speaker 3: But this is just funny. There's a flat earth shadow.
Speaker 5: I have ever seen before.
Speaker 3: It's great. That's just to be silly. That's why you
Speaker 3: didn't need to laugh. And pictures you get stars through
Speaker 3: the moon. So if it's a solid object, attack could
Speaker 3: there be stars? And there's so many people have seen
Speaker 3: that and done that. Whole cultures have done that with
Speaker 3: their flags or they start inside. They said, just recently,
Speaker 3: what was it Murky was supposed to be inside the moon?
Speaker 3: It's like, well, Murky's supposed to be these millions of
Speaker 3: millions of miles away, so how could that be seen
Speaker 3: inside the moon?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jacob, I do them countries there? It is all
Speaker 5: their flags.
Speaker 2: I do want your opinion on that, though, Jacob, Like,
Speaker 2: how are people getting pictures of stars in front of
Speaker 2: the moon?
Speaker 4: Like that. What do you what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 5: This is the first time I've ever seen it. To
Speaker 5: be honest with you.
Speaker 4: Oh really, Oh it's really cool, dude.
Speaker 3: Works they do that like get a little guy fishing
Speaker 3: or something on the edge and it's got stars inside
Speaker 3: the man.
Speaker 2: I mean, is the moon disappearing like is it? Is
Speaker 2: it like some kind of illusion? Do we don't necessarily
Speaker 2: understand the moon in that way?
Speaker 5: I mean, at this moment, first time ever seeing this,
Speaker 5: I don't have an answer. I'm gonna be honest, I
Speaker 5: don't know if this is some sort of like an
Speaker 5: optical illusion like you're saying, or what this is. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna definitely look into this later though. For sure.
Speaker 3: There are tons of pictures. I just did a little
Speaker 3: just a little bunch of a couple of them. This
Speaker 3: was awesome. Okay, So when the little guy on top
Speaker 3: is reading his book by this strong reflection supposedly of
Speaker 3: the sun bouncing off the dirt moon. Okay, so then
Speaker 3: we are seventy percent water. How come when the sun
Speaker 3: balances off of us, how come it doesn't light up
Speaker 3: the new moon when supposedly it's dark and black moon?
Speaker 3: How come our reflection. Look how shiny and sparkly we are.
Speaker 3: There's the Moon's supposed to be dark, and it's supposed
Speaker 3: to be dirt and gravel or whatever it is, the
Speaker 3: moon dust rocks unless it's magical reflecting dirt. I don't know.
Speaker 3: But to me, I thought about this, it's like, aren't
Speaker 3: we a like a what do they call Cisco ball
Speaker 3: with all the reflecting? When you think the water would
Speaker 3: reflect all the light back out?
Speaker 5: I mean it depends on if the sun, Like at night,
Speaker 5: there's no sun reflecting on us, so what can't bounce
Speaker 5: off us and hit the moon? So I you know,
Speaker 5: except if we're looking at the flat earth model, then
Speaker 5: the sun is constantly hitting being this.
Speaker 3: This is the globe thing, not the mind. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that, not the flat earth one. But
Speaker 3: I'm saying with the globe, I'm thinking, with all, look
Speaker 3: at this, like from any reflects from the sun hitting,
Speaker 3: and it's going to reflect in all directions like the
Speaker 3: moon does. How come that reflects back to us? So
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, why wouldn't if the sun hits the earth
Speaker 3: and all the water, why doesn't that reflect out and
Speaker 3: hit the moon? I don't know, that was just a thick.
Speaker 2: Well it's interesting, you know, we we have into like
Speaker 2: or I talk a lot about like quantum physics and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and you know, just about how light
Speaker 2: particles interact, and uh, you know, just like a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff like that as so as far as like
Speaker 2: high energy protons and shit like that. But anyway, I
Speaker 2: pulled this up and I asked, does light create matter?
Speaker 2: And I'm going somewhere with that, but it says yes,
Speaker 2: light can create matter under certain conditions, such as when
Speaker 2: high energy photons collide, resulting in the production of particle
Speaker 2: dash anti particle pairs like electrons and positrons. This process
Speaker 2: is based on Einstein's ee e equals mc squared, which
Speaker 2: shows the relationship between energy and mass. So if you
Speaker 2: think about it, if you find that.
Speaker 3: In his nineteen oh five paper, see if you can
Speaker 3: find mc square because.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure it doesn't. But like crazy, but then
Speaker 4: come out.
Speaker 5: It didn't come out in nineteen oh five, though, did it.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna look this up now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm terrible with years like that.
Speaker 2: But but if you think about it, you know, if
Speaker 2: the sun creates the light particles and there is a
Speaker 2: relationship between energy and mass. Wouldn't that kind of point
Speaker 2: towards what we understand about the moon in a way.
Speaker 4: So think about it like this.
Speaker 2: If the Sun is able to shine and light up
Speaker 2: the moon right there like that, such as waxing or
Speaker 2: waning or something like that, then the other side of
Speaker 2: the moon doesn't have the doesn't have the light particles
Speaker 2: in it to be able to form the mass, and
Speaker 2: maybe it's massless without the light because equals mc squared.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to sound smart. It doesn't work very well
Speaker 2: all the time, but I'm just thinking about it like
Speaker 2: in regular person understanding terms, like if you need light,
Speaker 2: you need energy in some kind of way in order
Speaker 2: to be able to make something physical, then maybe without
Speaker 2: that energy aka the Sun's light, it can't be physical.
Speaker 4: And maybe that's why you're able to see the stars
Speaker 4: through the moon like that.
Speaker 5: Possibly, it says that Einstein's famous equation for appeared in
Speaker 5: his nineteen oh five paper title does the inertia of
Speaker 5: a Body depend upon its Energy? Content? Published in Analine
Speaker 5: dar Physique on November twenty first. Is it Apparently it's
Speaker 5: apparently it's in the paper. I'm not sure I saw
Speaker 5: sech or something.
Speaker 3: Can you search for it? Because it says not enough paper.
Speaker 5: Let me see if I could pull up the paper itself.
Speaker 5: Although is it in English? That's the other thing. Judging
Speaker 5: by the title, I'm assuming he's going to be in
Speaker 5: German and I don't speak it. But I'll see if
Speaker 5: I could find it somewhere on the paper.
Speaker 3: I don't know, all right, but if it for me.
Speaker 3: They're just like fun things that just pop out this one.
Speaker 3: Have you ever looked at the bottom of a globe
Speaker 3: where it always says not meant for educational purpose, for
Speaker 3: decoration only have you ever seen that? I did it downstairs.
Speaker 3: I had a globe I looked underneath in it it
Speaker 3: truly said that on there just for decorations and not
Speaker 3: for educational purpose. That seems kind of weird. This is silly.
Speaker 3: It's just someone of these are funny. The magnet, Yeah,
Speaker 3: magnets have a melting point of hundred and seventy six
Speaker 3: degrees fahrenheit, and they say that the molten magnetic core.
Speaker 3: This is just this is There are a bunch of these,
Speaker 3: so I just kind of get through it fast. But
Speaker 3: if it's melted, how are you gonna have a north
Speaker 3: and south. I mean to me, just like that's kind
Speaker 3: of confusing whatever, And same thing about the melting point
Speaker 3: of uh nickel and iron. So they still wouldn't have
Speaker 3: it be a solid center. And how would you know,
Speaker 3: because they still haven't dug less than what was it,
Speaker 3: seven point nine miles? They've never been farther than yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: And if it was truly what they say eleven thousand,
Speaker 3: ten eleven thousand and nine thousand degrees in the center,
Speaker 3: how come the oceans aren't boiling?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I always thought that was strange too. Why is it
Speaker 2: way colder at the ocean floor that it?
Speaker 3: But fhe do you get down? Yeah?
Speaker 4: You know, I.
Speaker 2: Actually thought that. You know, maybe the only reason why
Speaker 2: they only ever drilled eight miles down and stopped was
Speaker 2: because maybe they found something hollow down there. I don't know,
Speaker 2: just throwing it out there, is there a whole nother
Speaker 2: shiitation living mine the Earth's crust where we think that
Speaker 2: magma and lava and all that crap is. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not to say like I believe in volcanoes. I
Speaker 2: believe in all of that, But I also believe that
Speaker 2: there's water underneath our feet. Do I think that it
Speaker 2: goes all the way to the core.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: So it says that apparently it's in his fourth paper,
Speaker 5: the fourth paper of this thing. I'm trying to find
Speaker 5: that there's like any like what paragraph it's in or
Speaker 5: something like that. But that's proving harder because everybody's trying
Speaker 5: to sell me the book rather than just showing me
Speaker 5: the fucking paper. Yeah, so, oh wait, may hey, I
Speaker 5: may have found it. Damn it. Oh wait, hey, I
Speaker 5: found it. All right, all right, y'all keep going. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna fine this year.
Speaker 4: All right, find that equation.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: So this was just fun. This is just more like
Speaker 3: the common sense thing. So if because I don't believe this,
Speaker 3: but if at the equator the sun is hitting parallel
Speaker 3: rays hitting the equator, then you go up only six
Speaker 3: thousand If it's twenty four thousand miles around the circumference,
Speaker 3: so then a quarter of it would be six thousand miles.
Speaker 3: So the difference if it's if it's forty five degrees
Speaker 3: fahrenheit and then it's negative sixty at the at the
Speaker 3: at the poles or whatever at the top and the
Speaker 3: bottom away from the sun, that is a huge difference,
Speaker 3: and temperature difference, a big, big, huge difference. So then
Speaker 3: you get all the way to Mars that supposedly spapped
Speaker 3: up water. If there's that much temperature difference, it goes
Speaker 3: from we've got deserts and the equator and then ice
Speaker 3: at the pole, and then you go back another's have
Speaker 3: millions of miles to Mars. How would they ever have
Speaker 3: had any I mean, how would they have had anything
Speaker 3: that was water that they say might be water? Just
Speaker 3: from that six thousand miles from our equator to our pole.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Difference, But if you're going millions of miles farther away
Speaker 3: from the sun, how could it be? I don't know,
Speaker 3: but these are just a little.
Speaker 5: No it is.
Speaker 2: It is interesting, like how could it poss like the
Speaker 2: idea that Elon wants to go to Mars and you know,
Speaker 2: populate Mars over there. It's strange, like why is Mars?
Speaker 2: And I don't really know that necessarily the temperature of Mars.
Speaker 2: But you know, if we're way closer to the sun
Speaker 2: and we have places that are literally I mean ice deserts,
Speaker 2: you know, because they're those places, whether it's the North
Speaker 2: poor of the South Pole, are so much farther away
Speaker 2: from the Sun, then you would think that any planet
Speaker 2: after us would be just ice balls.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking. That, that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 3: So yeah, person without can that's my face. That's what
Speaker 3: that goes back to the hazardmat stuff, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: come on, that's just seems silly. And that was I
Speaker 3: said that before about the zippers the vell crow. They
Speaker 3: were using snaps on their on their on their what
Speaker 3: do you call it there space.
Speaker 5: So I found a breakdown of it anyway, but it's
Speaker 5: more of a it's showing the criticisms of it, because
Speaker 5: when you first introduced that paper, there was a lot
Speaker 5: of criticism to it in Einstein after he published it
Speaker 5: was actually kind of a blasted for it being fallicle fallus,
Speaker 5: fall a fallacy, not a phallax, excuse me. But then
Speaker 5: later on it was published as correct without any of
Speaker 5: the criticisms anymore because they later found that the math mathed.
Speaker 5: So I found a paper that kind of breaks down
Speaker 5: it alongside the criticisms. But you know, it's a bit
Speaker 5: of a long, dry educational reads. We don't necessarily have
Speaker 5: to get into it. But oh, it's from ResearchGate dot
Speaker 5: net if anybody wants to look it up anyway, Okay.
Speaker 3: So would they say that space is a vacuum and
Speaker 3: they're doing all their stuff in the vacuum of space.
Speaker 3: There was a guy, Jim LeBlanc, who actually was it
Speaker 3: was the only astronaut who was tested in a as
Speaker 3: close as they could get to a vacuum, and there
Speaker 3: was a he got a breach in his suit and
Speaker 3: immediately it just it sucked everything out. He passed. You
Speaker 3: can see his foot in the bottom boop. He flipped,
Speaker 3: He flipped over, and they just they got into him
Speaker 3: within seconds to recover him. But that so then they
Speaker 3: got these you know, guys floating out in space and
Speaker 3: they bumping into things and not going to think if
Speaker 3: they're not worried about this stuff, you know, just does
Speaker 3: the effects of something that would happen if they were
Speaker 3: really in a vacuum of space. It would be just terrifying.
Speaker 3: And uh what or the next one? I think, Yeah,
Speaker 3: water boils in a vacuum, so I mean thinking about
Speaker 3: their their eyeballs there. That was the last thing you
Speaker 3: remember before he passed out. He said his tongue boiling
Speaker 3: any any fluid that he had on his tongue. He
Speaker 3: felt that boiling from the exposure to a true vacuum
Speaker 3: and things way heavier in a vacuum space. The science
Speaker 3: science science takeob that when they actually had a vacuum
Speaker 3: chamber and they weighed something, it was heavier in a vacuum.
Speaker 3: So when they're out there floating in space, this kind
Speaker 3: of gives the opposite impression of what it would be.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, water boiling in a vacuum makes sense to
Speaker 5: me because the same reason why water boils with less
Speaker 5: energy up in Denver, Colorado than it does down in Louisiana,
Speaker 5: because you don't have as much atmospheric pressure that you're
Speaker 5: trying to fight against to get water to its boiling point.
Speaker 5: Same reason why an industry, like whenever you are trying
Speaker 5: to boil something off and distill it, you try to
Speaker 5: pressurize the container that it's in because it lowers the
Speaker 5: boiling point, meaning it requires less energy to get it there,
Speaker 5: which is more cost efficient. So that makes sense.
Speaker 3: How come Mars and Jupiter and Neptune, how come they're
Speaker 3: not boiling.
Speaker 5: In There's allegedly no water on Mars and Jupiter and
Speaker 5: all that, so there would be nothing boiling there allegedly allegedly,
Speaker 5: although they kept finding ice crystals on Mars, which leads
Speaker 5: to a whole other theory that I think we might
Speaker 5: do an episode on one day. Apparently water's not even
Speaker 5: from Earth. There's a theory floating around to say that
Speaker 5: water hit the Earth in different types of meteors that
Speaker 5: had ice crystals on it, and when it hit the Earth,
Speaker 5: they melted, which gave us water that we have.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of meteors.
Speaker 5: That's a lot. But apparently the Earth is allegedly four
Speaker 5: point six billion or some shit years old, so I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, hey, And also it's been smacked around a
Speaker 5: few times.
Speaker 4: Isn't it weird though, that we're seventy percent water? The
Speaker 4: Earth is seventy percent water. But water is not native
Speaker 4: to this planet.
Speaker 5: And somehow water is sentient. It is as a memory.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, God, that is so cool.
Speaker 3: If you say something nice and loving, it's got a beautiful,
Speaker 3: pretty pattern. And if you say I eat you or something,
Speaker 3: then it just you can see the.
Speaker 2: I actually proved that in my own way. I was
Speaker 2: I was just saying, for like, I just held a
Speaker 2: bowl of water and I said, all right, water, I
Speaker 2: want you to encompass my energy, just encompass everything that
Speaker 2: is me. And I put it in the freezer and
Speaker 2: I took it out and I showed Jacob this picture.
Speaker 2: I took it out and it had an MM on it.
Speaker 2: So like maybe meta mysteries. Maybe it's just an for
Speaker 2: my last name starts with an M. Jacob's last name
Speaker 2: starts with an M. Maybe that's the double M. My
Speaker 2: daughter's name is Mackenzie with my last name starting with
Speaker 2: an M.
Speaker 4: So it's like it's super strange.
Speaker 3: That is wild, that's really cool though, that's neat.
Speaker 5: I'm try that if that Ice comes out with a
Speaker 5: j Orner, I have a kind of different time because
Speaker 5: I mean, Jay's got that hard curve in it, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean that would be I feel like
Speaker 5: it'd be harder for Ice to do. But I mean,
Speaker 5: who's to say, right.
Speaker 4: Well, maybe it just makes an eye. You know. It
Speaker 4: was the precursor to the.
Speaker 3: J How crazy is that where it'll say, like fourteen
Speaker 3: sixty one, the one does not look like the one
Speaker 3: thousand and one looks like a like a j or An.
Speaker 3: I Yeah, the coins and on buildings and.
Speaker 2: It's so interesting, like trying to understand history from actual
Speaker 2: physical things like coins like that, because.
Speaker 4: They tell they tell the story.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, it's it's this is why
Speaker 2: we love doing this show and all these wild topics,
Speaker 2: because a lot of things just don't make sense.
Speaker 3: And this is the way we love watching you do
Speaker 3: these shows on these topics. I mean as an audience memborer,
Speaker 3: I mean, this is I can't get enough of it
Speaker 3: because you guys always cover so many different topics.
Speaker 5: I mean, we're all over the place, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: It's a way of life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I go a day without talking about a conspiracy,
Speaker 2: I'm like, why do I feel off today?
Speaker 4: It's it's strange.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always something new. This is crazy. This was
Speaker 3: just a just a mind A lot of these things
Speaker 3: just do little mind shifts for me. But they were showing, uh,
Speaker 3: did you see that last rocket when of rockets it
Speaker 3: went off and it looks like it hit the firmament.
Speaker 3: Do you remember it kind of scafe?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a while back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked like they showed the bullets firing into
Speaker 3: the water and how it goes across and it looked
Speaker 3: like the same thing, like it possibly hitting the dome.
Speaker 3: I just thought that was cool. And then when you
Speaker 3: see Haley's comment, that's another what is that a the
Speaker 3: Mendela effect. I remember it as Haley's comment, and now
Speaker 3: they got everything is Halle's comment. What I remember Haley's comment.
Speaker 5: It's I hear people pronounce Sarah or Sarah right, Haley
Speaker 5: or Halle? Is that? Is that what it is?
Speaker 3: But it was spelled for me when I remember it
Speaker 3: was Haley's comment, j I L eys and now it's
Speaker 3: j L L every place I look, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I remember Hailey's comment, yeahn't that crazy?
Speaker 2: There's an episode and I don't even know how I
Speaker 2: remember this, but I and I could be wrong on
Speaker 2: my reference point here, but I used to love cartoons
Speaker 2: whenever I was a little kid, and I used to
Speaker 2: watch Hey Arnold all the time, and there was an
Speaker 2: episode on Hailey's comment. I'm gonna try and see if
Speaker 2: I can find that for.
Speaker 3: The Mandela it says, yeah that crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody got together because it only comes around once
Speaker 2: every what is it eighty years or something like that.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, what's that song? I just saw Heley's comment.
Speaker 5: She believes it's not a Mandela effect. We all know
Speaker 5: it to me, but I guess there's some people pronouncing
Speaker 5: it Halle.
Speaker 3: Every place I looked now, for all the sign looking
Speaker 3: doing my research, it all says Hallie's. Now. It just
Speaker 3: blew my mind, like that was so wild.
Speaker 4: We shifted dimensions. That's the only explanation.
Speaker 3: If you look at the bottom the right one, to me,
Speaker 3: it looks like you can see it going okay, there's
Speaker 3: Haley's comment going through space whatever, and you can see
Speaker 3: the head right and then the comet tail and everything.
Speaker 3: But if you look at it like a rip in
Speaker 3: the ceiling, can you see it the bottom left the
Speaker 3: bottom right picture, but the left side of it where
Speaker 3: it looks like light shining through a rip. Doesn't it
Speaker 3: a black tart or.
Speaker 4: Something like a spotlight from the other side? Almost you're crazy.
Speaker 3: But it was like it was like, oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean anything. I just thought it was fascinating
Speaker 3: seeing it a different seeing a different way. In the
Speaker 3: bottom pictures are the same type of thing. You can
Speaker 3: see it more looks like a rip coming through a light,
Speaker 3: the light coming through something dark. So this is I
Speaker 3: don't have to do this. But the speed of Haley's comment,
Speaker 3: how would it keep up that that's the whole thing
Speaker 3: with everything moving. That's a different one. But so Haley's
Speaker 3: comment has that tail right, and it it's made of
Speaker 3: ice and dirt and ice chunks, and it's got that
Speaker 3: tail that everyone can see. Right, So how come our
Speaker 3: sun doesn't have a tail? How come we if we're
Speaker 3: made of dirt and ice? How come the Earth isn't
Speaker 3: doesn't have a tail behind it. So that was just
Speaker 3: another thing that was like, Oh, I don't know, that's wild. Yeah,
Speaker 3: where's Earth's tail? Rainbows? This is something crazy. I'm doing
Speaker 3: the research for the for the nuke stuff, but Sean
Speaker 3: Hibbler had mentioned in one of his interviews something that
Speaker 3: rainbows are full circles.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I.
Speaker 3: Was like what and I love him in my absolutely
Speaker 3: dorm and then stuff, I'm like, I don't what, what
Speaker 3: what what? I started researching, and they are if you're
Speaker 3: up high enough, you can see the full circle. And
Speaker 3: then they say this is the horizon the block's bottom.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can make that with a garden hose outside
Speaker 5: if you turn on the right setting and you make
Speaker 5: it like shine that way in the sunlight, you can
Speaker 5: make a full three sixty rainbow put it on.
Speaker 3: The miss that's crazy, but I didn't know that before
Speaker 3: that that was neat. And then someone said about the thunder.
Speaker 3: It sounds like it's echoing. Oh what I was going
Speaker 3: to say? My daughter, that's what got her was She's like, oh,
Speaker 3: the firmament. Oh, that's why rainbows are shaped that way.
Speaker 3: So for her that was really significant. And then thunder
Speaker 3: sounds like it's reverberating against like a metal pan or
Speaker 3: metal thing when you hear the thunder, So I thought,
Speaker 3: that is It doesn't prove anything, it's just interesting. Georgia
Speaker 3: Guydstone's this one. I had heard about that that you
Speaker 3: could see the light through the hole, and I thought, well,
Speaker 3: maybe like once a month or something like that. I
Speaker 3: did more. This is oh gosh, two years ago twenty
Speaker 3: four seven, three sixty five, that light Polaris was through
Speaker 3: that hole no matter who looks, no matter when you look,
Speaker 3: no matter what time, no matter any day, night, weekend, holidays, anything.
Speaker 3: That light was there. That I think was one of
Speaker 3: the biggest ones for me. Polaris does not move so
Speaker 3: all the to I think of it like a calender.
Speaker 3: If there was a like a spot on a calender
Speaker 3: and you're looking up into the calendar and you spin
Speaker 3: the calendar, like the stars would move around in that circle,
Speaker 3: like all together, moving together, no parallax. And so that
Speaker 3: was the only thing that made sense to me because
Speaker 3: that how if we're spinning twenty four hours, spinning on
Speaker 3: an axis and going around the Sun, and the Sun
Speaker 3: is moving, how could Polaris stay To me, that was
Speaker 3: just a big aha.
Speaker 2: Well, this is what Duck Duck go Ai has to
Speaker 2: say about it. Polaris, or the North star, appears to
Speaker 2: stay fixed in the northern sky because it is located
Speaker 2: nearly directly above Earth's northern axis. While it does move
Speaker 2: in a small circle due to its slight offset from
Speaker 2: celestial north, this movement is so minimal that it is
Speaker 2: not noticeable to the naked eye.
Speaker 5: I always thought that's because we were all kind of
Speaker 5: moving in that direction, like towards Polaris. I'm not saying
Speaker 5: it's pulling us by any means, but like as we're
Speaker 5: allegedly quarks grewing through space, if we are to believe
Speaker 5: that it's not faking gay, maybe that's just the direction
Speaker 5: we're headed, you know what I mean, That's why it
Speaker 5: kind of looks fixed.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is Georgia, so you say Georgia. Okay, Georgia
Speaker 3: goes around around, so how can it still see Polaris?
Speaker 3: Then it goes around the Sun, so it's on the
Speaker 3: other side of the Sun. Then it comes back while
Speaker 3: it's spinning, where's Polaris? Is it up here? But then
Speaker 3: it's on top, it's underneath, it's on top, underneath. So
Speaker 3: I just don't see how it could any Georgia.
Speaker 5: How could think about it like this? If this is
Speaker 5: the Earth just throwing it out and this is the
Speaker 5: North Pole, right, don't look at it like this, look
Speaker 5: at it like this, and we're going towards it. So
Speaker 5: Georgia being here or here or here is looking in
Speaker 5: that direction. So Polaris would kind of be semi stationary,
Speaker 5: but wouldn't all if.
Speaker 3: You're I see what you're doing. So if it's going
Speaker 3: this direction and.
Speaker 5: It if the Earth is moving like okay, if we're
Speaker 5: looking at the Earth like this is the north Pole,
Speaker 5: then we're going this direction. So somebody on this side
Speaker 5: or this side or this side or whatever, if they're
Speaker 5: looking towards the north which is was the North Star.
Speaker 5: That's why you know, people that were trying to find
Speaker 5: their way back in the day using a sex stent
Speaker 5: and stuff would use that as a point of reference, right,
Speaker 5: because no matter where in the ocean you got, you
Speaker 5: got a general idea of north based off of that
Speaker 5: one star. If we're all going that direction, the Sun,
Speaker 5: all the planets and all the stuff is moving that direction,
Speaker 5: Polai's being that direction that that would at least be
Speaker 5: in my mind why that would be. But I'm not
Speaker 5: even if it's like.
Speaker 3: This and it's up here, okay, so like this, but
Speaker 3: it was still spinning and stuff. Then it's going around
Speaker 3: this around the sun. Though it's still it's going around this.
Speaker 3: It's spinning first of all this way, then it's going
Speaker 3: around the Sun, and then the Sun's going around the soul.
Speaker 3: So whatever the the what is it? The galaxy and
Speaker 3: okey way galaxy. We're on a spiral arm or something,
Speaker 3: so we're moving. If this was before hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: three light years away, I don't know. I mean in
Speaker 3: late uses you know that, have you done that? Was it?
Speaker 3: I think it's coming up at the inverse square law
Speaker 3: of light. Every time you half the distance, you quarter
Speaker 3: the amount of light. So four three three late year.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, I just I just it
Speaker 3: makes me laugh.
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Speaker 5: Indeed, indeed, all right, So what we got here now?
Speaker 5: Mercury and Venus seen from night or seen at night
Speaker 5: from a globe.
Speaker 3: Nope, this was the one that truly flipped me where
Speaker 3: I was on the edge, I was on the fence left.
Speaker 3: You do I believe it? Do I not believe it?
Speaker 3: This is the one. I cannot cannot circle this square.
Speaker 3: I cannot wrap my head around how this could possibly work.
Speaker 3: So on the top one, you've got the Sun, Mercury, Venus,
Speaker 3: and Earth. So Mercury and Venus are always facing a
Speaker 3: closer to the sun on our daylight side. They're little.
Speaker 3: So on the bottom one it shows their orbit. So
Speaker 3: Venus and Mercury never go outside those two green lines.
Speaker 3: Their orbit never goes beyond Earth's daytime. But we've got
Speaker 3: pictures of Venus and Mercury and the dusk dawn at night.
Speaker 3: So their orbit is closer to the Sun every time
Speaker 3: they spend their closer to the Sun. The Earth's orbit
Speaker 3: is farther out from the Sun. They never from in here.
Speaker 3: They never go past our terminator line. It never goes
Speaker 3: past our daytime. They never are on the outside of
Speaker 3: our nighttime. So from this picture are from their diagrams
Speaker 3: of the Solar system. I don't see how it could
Speaker 3: possibly like here Mercury and Venus are on Their orbit
Speaker 3: is always at our daylight. It never goes outside of
Speaker 3: our night time. See how their orbit is inside.
Speaker 5: So you're saying that there's no way we should be
Speaker 5: able to see Mercury or Venus as stars in our
Speaker 5: night sky because they are always closer to the Sun
Speaker 5: than we are.
Speaker 3: Millions of miles closer to the Sun. So they never
Speaker 3: their orbit is never wide enough to come on our
Speaker 3: night times. Their orbits always closer Sun. It's always on
Speaker 3: our it's always interior of our orbit. It never reaches
Speaker 3: outside of the Earth orbit to be seen able to
Speaker 3: be seen at night millions of miles, So it's not
Speaker 3: just like, oh, it's close, but can you see the
Speaker 3: little orbit on the top picture, Yeah, how close it
Speaker 3: is the sun. So that was the one who got
Speaker 3: me that. It's like, oh wow. But then you've got
Speaker 3: pictures of Mercury and Venus at night, I mean at
Speaker 3: dusk and dawn, and I mean it would have to
Speaker 3: be closer to the nighttime. So that to me was
Speaker 3: really I don't know if there's help at all, but
Speaker 3: just seeing them.
Speaker 2: You know, what's interesting about flat Earth in general is
Speaker 2: that there's a lot of things that make you scratch
Speaker 2: your head, especially pictures like that, where you see certain
Speaker 2: planets are way closer to the sun. They're always going
Speaker 2: to be in our daytime, where never we should never
Speaker 2: really see them at night if the back half of
Speaker 2: the Earth is pointing the other way, you know, away
Speaker 2: from the Sun. And it's like flat Earthers get so
Speaker 2: much flat And I never really understood why. It's just
Speaker 2: a theory. If you disagree with it, then just disagree
Speaker 2: with it, you know. But like I don't see anybody
Speaker 2: causing fights for Bigfoot, Like I don't see anybody causing
Speaker 2: fights if for believing in ghosts, Like it's either you
Speaker 2: believe or you don't believe. It's very simple. But for
Speaker 2: some reason the non believers like to literally skull fuck
Speaker 2: flat earthers like it is not Jacob. I mean Jacob,
Speaker 2: you know, he has questions and gets into arguments and
Speaker 2: all stuff.
Speaker 5: I know to be of Dick. I still get called
Speaker 5: it NonStop by people, but I mean, you know, I try. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but you don't have everybody out, You don't have a
Speaker 5: rage inside of you that just hates flat earthers or
Speaker 5: even the topic we've done.
Speaker 2: I don't even know, probably one hundred flat Earth shows.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that much, maybe fifty altogether. I
Speaker 2: would venture to say it's probably about that much.
Speaker 4: And some people just hate flatter.
Speaker 3: You've had Hibler, you've had Voice, obviously, you had a
Speaker 3: Levell was like I bought something that Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 3: was great level.
Speaker 5: Yeah. The flat Earth community is a lot like the
Speaker 5: Tartaria community, and a lot like the cryptid community, and
Speaker 5: a lot like the Bigfoot community. I'm not saying that
Speaker 5: in any kind of negative way. What I mean by
Speaker 5: that is that everybody has their own spin figuratively speaking,
Speaker 5: but don't as to how it all works, or a
Speaker 5: thing that they more align with with the flat Earth
Speaker 5: than the other stuff. And it's like there's no two
Speaker 5: flat earthers that agree on every one hundred percent the
Speaker 5: same thing. It's like the keynotes they all agree on,
Speaker 5: but like the nuances, there's so many to go into.
Speaker 2: And there's actually a lot of flat Earthers that don't
Speaker 2: even like the term flat Earth. They just want to
Speaker 2: say it's the true Earth. It's not even necessarily to
Speaker 2: say that all we're just living on a piece of paper.
Speaker 4: It's just that we're not living on.
Speaker 2: A cyclical, cylindrical ball, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, do you guys know Nathan Oakley over in England,
Speaker 3: I don't think so. All science. He's fantastic. I've learned more.
Speaker 3: I learned more from him in one episode than I
Speaker 3: could on my own in years. He is phenomenal. He's
Speaker 3: an angry, bitter British and he just yells at everybody
Speaker 3: and it is hilarious, it is awesome, It is so
Speaker 3: much fun. But he has a group of guys with
Speaker 3: him who are brilliant and they break this down so simply,
Speaker 3: and it's all science, all math, all the technical everything,
Speaker 3: but they break it down so anyone can understand it
Speaker 3: and is phenomenal. But he's the one who has said,
Speaker 3: right when I was starting the poems, he said, don't
Speaker 3: ever use the word flat Earth or you'll be decimated.
Speaker 3: You'll be blocked, it'll be shut up in everything. So
Speaker 3: that's why I came up with level plane poem. There
Speaker 3: you go, Nathan Oakley for me not getting just.
Speaker 4: Oh, i'd love to get him on. I haven't heard
Speaker 4: of him yet.
Speaker 3: He's incredible and he's he's up. He's the one when
Speaker 3: we're out Dave Weis always says you can get three
Speaker 3: bitcoins if you can prove the globe ye. The proofs
Speaker 3: go through, they're vetted by Nathan Oakley. So he's he
Speaker 3: is the one who says bring it on, and he
Speaker 3: just and it's awesome. It's so much fun to watch
Speaker 3: to listen. He's on every morning. It's Nathan Oakley nineteen
Speaker 3: eighties on YouTube every morning, every weekday morning, and he's
Speaker 3: just he's awesome. It's just anyone who really wants the
Speaker 3: science side of this, that's the one to go to.
Speaker 3: He's he's awesome.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I mean I would love to see that
Speaker 2: argument between him and Jacob.
Speaker 4: That just sounds awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, get him on the show Man.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, God so wonderful. He's incredible. And then
Speaker 3: just a couple more real quick, just the ISS we're
Speaker 3: talking about that. So the ISS, the size is supposed
Speaker 3: to be about the size of a football field the
Speaker 3: International Space Station, so about one hundred yards ish, the
Speaker 3: same size as a jumbo jet. So jet you see
Speaker 3: flying maybe what five to seven miles right, and you
Speaker 3: can see it. You can't see the engine, you can barely,
Speaker 3: you know, you can make up the little silver reflecting. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: So the i ANSYS they say, is two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty miles up. It's twenty five times farther. It doesn't
Speaker 3: have any exterior lights. So what is reflecting that you
Speaker 3: can supposedly wantch it go across? You see a plane,
Speaker 3: a little bit of a plane at five miles, but
Speaker 3: you can see this ISS at two hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: miles away. So I just I laughed, and I just
Speaker 3: think that's another silly thing. It doesn't have exterior lights,
Speaker 3: So what's reflecting or what's it reflecting off of? Continually?
Speaker 3: Because I fil the thing reflects. You see it for
Speaker 3: a second as it moves across and shines the light
Speaker 3: or what it reflects the light. So wow, that was funny.
Speaker 3: Same thing, just the size of it, and you see
Speaker 3: it going across. But you can't see a airplane moving across.
Speaker 2: There's just so much fuckery with the ISS. Like I
Speaker 2: it's something that I believe it is a it is
Speaker 2: a cash funnel. Personally, like, I don't buy any of it.
Speaker 2: You watch any of the footage of the people on
Speaker 2: the ISS, it makes no sense.
Speaker 4: The people that are the hair.
Speaker 3: The hair is like hair sprayed straight. But when you
Speaker 3: see a what are those planes, Jacob that do the
Speaker 3: zero gravity planes?
Speaker 5: I forget what it's called, but I want to.
Speaker 3: Go over and the hair you can see their hair,
Speaker 3: you know, when going like this. But on the ISS
Speaker 3: you always see it like straight up, like hair sprayed
Speaker 3: up and all the wires. Can you imagine in the military, First,
Speaker 3: in the military, can you imagine women having their hair down,
Speaker 3: not with all and then with all those wires and
Speaker 3: the water and all the liquid and stuff. But wouldn't
Speaker 3: you think that you that have everything like just flat
Speaker 3: against the all all those wires, wouldn't be. I don't know.
Speaker 5: To me, that just seemed yeah, yes, I agree. So
Speaker 5: basically what we're saying is that Elon Musk is lying
Speaker 5: and he's not going up there to save those two
Speaker 5: people from the ISS that have been out there for
Speaker 5: six months. I mean, they were only supposed to be
Speaker 5: there for a couple of weeks. They only brought enough
Speaker 5: food and provisions and things for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5: Maybe somehow they're surviving six the next time.
Speaker 2: But the thing is is that they weren't. They weren't
Speaker 2: even supposed to be in space for very long. This
Speaker 2: is what's so fascinating about.
Speaker 3: It, this presence and had stockings and all this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were supposed to I think they went up
Speaker 2: in September, if I'm not mistaken, somewhere around then, and
Speaker 2: they were only supposed to be going.
Speaker 4: Up for like a week or a couple of weeks
Speaker 4: or something like that.
Speaker 2: But and then allegedly they got stranded and couldn't get
Speaker 2: out of there and didn't have a way back home.
Speaker 2: But you had all of the Christmas attire? How did like,
Speaker 2: how did you get all that Christmas attire? I thought
Speaker 2: that you weren't planning for this long trip and so
Speaker 2: I I mean, personally, this is what I think about
Speaker 2: Elon Musk. The reason how he knows that the government
Speaker 2: is at absolutely corrupt is because he is making a
Speaker 2: shitload of money off of the space stuff. He found
Speaker 2: a way to be able to put himself into the
Speaker 2: corruption and be able to you know, make a lot
Speaker 2: of money off of it that way. That's my own
Speaker 2: personal thing, Like you know, the rockets away.
Speaker 5: From him means they have to call their own bluff.
Speaker 5: Basically they can't take away and say, oh, the SpaceX
Speaker 5: rocket isn't going to space because then it's like, well
Speaker 5: why not. Why isn't it, mister government man? Because the
Speaker 5: rocket sure is hell went up and I'm SpaceX is
Speaker 5: the company, So you tell me why the rocket didn't
Speaker 5: go up? H because it's like, yeah, it's one of
Speaker 5: the most keep the game going otherwise you expose your
Speaker 5: own hand.
Speaker 2: It's one of the most beautiful cons of all time.
Speaker 2: That's what I think is going on with Elon and SpaceX.
Speaker 2: And you know, I just don't buy any of it.
Speaker 2: And also, Tesla's are pieces of shit cars, dude, Let's
Speaker 2: just be honest, Like those things blow up, they kill
Speaker 2: a lot of people all the time. It costs more
Speaker 2: to like, if your battery goes dead, just toss it
Speaker 2: in the trash, like toss the whole car and.
Speaker 3: Is and doesn't it not hold a charge as long?
Speaker 3: And you have to wait for a tcharge.
Speaker 5: Which is crazy. I thought batteries did better in cold environments.
Speaker 5: Why are the Tesla cars and trucks not doing well
Speaker 5: in the winter. That makes no sense to me.
Speaker 3: We saw a video of a guy pull off. He
Speaker 3: had a Tesla and he flags somebody down and goes,
Speaker 3: I just see some gasoline. And they're like, what what
Speaker 3: are you for? And they're like, where are you gonna
Speaker 3: put it? They're being so sar caphere you gonna put
Speaker 3: We're gonna do it. We're gonna stick a gasoline. He
Speaker 3: lifted up his trunk and he had a little generator,
Speaker 3: so the gas and the generator and then he tards
Speaker 3: his car so he could tat the rest of the way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, didn't Trump just buy one on the White House lawn.
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, he can't drive it or anything,
Speaker 5: and he made that distinction. But yeah, apparently he's uh.
Speaker 5: He now is the proud owner of a Tesla.
Speaker 2: I mean, tesla's are probably fun, but so are go carts,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like so or four wheelers,
Speaker 2: sower dirt bikes. I think it should just be like
Speaker 2: some kind of some kind of adventure thing. It shouldn't
Speaker 2: be your main car, I don't think, right right, All right.
Speaker 3: Are you guys do you want to are you ready
Speaker 3: a stopping point or do you want to keep going on?
Speaker 3: What do you do? No?
Speaker 4: We got probably ten more minutes?
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, just a couple. These are another ones
Speaker 3: that were just kind of AHAs to me. So the
Speaker 3: first of all, the bottom, you got the light on
Speaker 3: the Earth from the sun, but it's not lighting up
Speaker 3: the dark side. How come the moon isn't shining bright
Speaker 3: with the sun not only reflecting but actually hitting the moon.
Speaker 3: It's not even a reflection. It would the sun should
Speaker 3: be hitting the moon on the bottom, So the dark side,
Speaker 3: the sun is hitting the Earth right, all the clouds
Speaker 3: are lit up. So don't mean that's a silly picture,
Speaker 3: but that's what they use for the dark side. And
Speaker 3: also look at the size of the Earth. So when
Speaker 3: think about the guys, when the astronauts or astro and
Speaker 3: astronauts were on the moon. Wouldn't the Earth look massive
Speaker 3: in the sky, because when they show us the Earth
Speaker 3: from the moon, it's four times bigger than the moon.
Speaker 3: And you look up and they've got a little tiny
Speaker 3: looks like our moon in comparison, but it's the Earth,
Speaker 3: but it's four times bigger. So how could it look
Speaker 3: so tiny from the moon. It seems like it should
Speaker 3: be huge, it should take up and plus they should
Speaker 3: be looking up. And how could you have a moon
Speaker 3: rise an earth rise from the moon if the same
Speaker 3: face is always.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so the moon doesn't rotate, how are we
Speaker 5: having an earth rise? Exactly?
Speaker 3: There you go. So that was another one. And we're
Speaker 3: the stars. Sometimes there are stars, and there were no stars.
Speaker 3: That was the same thing. So to me on the
Speaker 3: left a picture, that's the way from the moon. It
Speaker 3: looks like the Earth should be so big from the
Speaker 3: moon because it's it's massive. It's so much bigger than
Speaker 3: the moon. But the moon looks tiny dust from here,
Speaker 3: but the Earth should look big, I would think from there.
Speaker 3: So those are fun. And then the reflection. When light
Speaker 3: hits a sphere, a ball, it's a diet so when
Speaker 3: it hits the moon, I don't understand what it's not
Speaker 3: a diet. How could it light up the whole face?
Speaker 3: And I go, this is hilarious. It's an astronaut holding
Speaker 3: the moon like a proposing with the moon, and it's
Speaker 3: got the light reflection as a dit So this if
Speaker 3: the sunlight is hitting the moon, it should light up
Speaker 3: the whole face. But it's showing his moon. There's a
Speaker 3: little dot on the if it's a sphere, if it
Speaker 3: was a ball, even like the bottom right one, when
Speaker 3: the light hits it any place on a sphere on a.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, but that's a light light from a flashlight
Speaker 5: or a flash from a camera. The light from the
Speaker 5: sun would be more like if you had that ball
Speaker 5: next to a bonfire, you know.
Speaker 3: Oh that was another funny thing is they said, okay,
Speaker 3: so you've got you've got the earth is being warmed
Speaker 3: up by the sun. And then so if you're right
Speaker 3: right by the fire and you're nicer, front is all
Speaker 3: nice and warm and stuff. And then they said, turn
Speaker 3: around and then your front should turn to ice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, that's what they say.
Speaker 3: Happens you turn away from the heat, and then you
Speaker 3: should you should turn the ice on the other side.
Speaker 3: And yeah, so whatever more vibes of cosmos when you're
Speaker 3: talking about so truth in their lives, like there always
Speaker 3: like a little bit of truth in their lives when
Speaker 3: you're talking about they talk about the global warming And
Speaker 3: have you guys seen this where they've got the reflection
Speaker 3: of the flat earth lands reflected onto the Moon where
Speaker 3: it's the exact Have you guys seen that?
Speaker 6: That?
Speaker 3: My mind, they are just incredible, They're just awesome. But
Speaker 3: the whole concept was I just thought it was really neat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some people believe that actually that that is
Speaker 2: proof that there is more land on Earth if it
Speaker 2: is like exactly a mirrored image the Moon and all
Speaker 2: of its craters or whatever it is. Could that be
Speaker 2: a mirrored image, And if that mirrored image is true
Speaker 2: and correct, then that would point to more land masses
Speaker 2: being on Earth, which has long been speculated. Which I
Speaker 2: think that that's probably the biggest thing that they're trying
Speaker 2: to cover up as far as all they hate the
Speaker 2: flat Earthers get it's not necessarily pointing towards the truth
Speaker 2: of a flat Earth. I don't think that that's necesscessarily
Speaker 2: what they're getting mad at. It's the details that the
Speaker 2: flat Earthers are pointing out, could this land and could
Speaker 2: this planet be a lot more vast, because if it is,
Speaker 2: they're hoarding a lot of the minerals and all the
Speaker 2: I mean, could there maybe there's another civilization, Maybe there's
Speaker 2: something else that is more you know, if.
Speaker 3: If there's an extra terror I love this, then there
Speaker 3: would be extra terrestrials coming from the outer the space
Speaker 3: outside of the outer space. I think that I like that.
Speaker 4: It could be. I mean, it could be advanced civilizations.
Speaker 4: Maybe we're the ones that are.
Speaker 2: That are inside the Peatri dish, and the people that
Speaker 2: are on the outer lands are the ones studying us,
Speaker 2: and they're the ones that are gaining and going like
Speaker 2: super advanced in that way. Like that's that's a fun
Speaker 2: theory to play with.
Speaker 5: Or vice versa. What if these are like uncontacted tribes
Speaker 5: kind of situation and they know that if they were
Speaker 5: to tell people that there's land and people living there,
Speaker 5: that people would go and explore and it would wipe
Speaker 5: them out, kind of like the Amazonian tribes they try
Speaker 5: to keep under wraps. What if we are the advanced
Speaker 5: civilization and these people are the ones that we're trying.
Speaker 2: To protect because we because we care so much about natives. Bro,
Speaker 2: we were trying to protect the natives. Come on an Americans.
Speaker 5: But like for instance, in Brazil, they have loss to
Speaker 5: where you cannot go to certain sections of the jungle
Speaker 5: because of the uncontacted tribes. The president went and uh,
Speaker 5: I think it was twenty fourteen, twenty twelve something like that.
Speaker 5: He had to go and go through a whole process
Speaker 5: to like sterilize himself so he didn't accidentally carry any
Speaker 5: bacteria with him when he went and contacted the chief
Speaker 5: of one of these tribes.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, the the globalists, if we
Speaker 2: want to look at it like that, or the elites
Speaker 2: or whatever, they would absolutely try and take that.
Speaker 4: I mean it would it would make.
Speaker 5: More the minerals they're worth getting. Like if they found
Speaker 5: oil there, like them tribes, I was gonna learn about
Speaker 5: some electricity today. Oh maybe they ain't got ship there,
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean think about Antarctica, like they would love more
Speaker 2: land like Antarctica. There's so much oil and so many
Speaker 2: minerals that you can find in Antarctica. That's why there's
Speaker 2: the Atlantic Peace Treaty because or Antarctic Peace treaty rather
Speaker 2: because so many nations want a little piece of that pie.
Speaker 2: I could imagine, you know, there being more land and
Speaker 2: all the countries getting together to try and hide the secret.
Speaker 5: I don't know. And then and then you see, and
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask him about that too, the Antarctic
Speaker 5: expedition that just took place, and they pulled up his
Speaker 5: app I didn't think about it.
Speaker 4: Fuck, oh yeah, that would have been interesting.
Speaker 2: But like, think about it like this, like the like
Speaker 2: a lot of these the rocket launches, right, they always
Speaker 2: formed that arch in the sky.
Speaker 4: Where are they landing? Could it possibly be in other
Speaker 4: lands and.
Speaker 3: Triangle where you can't go and investigate and check it out? Right?
Speaker 3: Isn't that funny?
Speaker 5: Musk is catching them? What do you mean? Where they
Speaker 5: land and musk is catching them as they come down?
Speaker 3: Man? Perfectly perfect?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: No, how could you possibly a cigarette landing perfectly straight
Speaker 3: up with no balance? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I don't buy that.
Speaker 2: I call that movie magic is what I call I
Speaker 2: think it's just it's the same thing in reverse.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The last thing is with this is the thought
Speaker 3: of if the sun moves flat Earth. Okay, if the
Speaker 3: sun moved around that, like have you seen the Prague
Speaker 3: astronom astronological clock astra whatever, Oh I thought it happening
Speaker 3: in Progue. They have this clock that moves like this.
Speaker 3: So if you've got the flat, if you've got the
Speaker 3: surface of the moon or the Earth, and then the sun,
Speaker 3: if it moved over thousands of years around as it
Speaker 3: came towards new Land, it would melt it and then
Speaker 3: it would freeze behind it, So the global warming would
Speaker 3: be forward and then everything freezing behind it would be
Speaker 3: behind stef if it moved around that, if it moved
Speaker 3: over thousands of thousands, like twenty four thousand years, twenty
Speaker 3: five thousand years, over the whole thing so slowly it'd
Speaker 3: be melting forward and freezing behind the sun. It would
Speaker 3: just the Sun would keep moving around, heating up that area.
Speaker 3: So that was just another That was just another concept
Speaker 3: where all this this sidden, all these buildings, capitals that
Speaker 3: all look the same, all the Roman columns that all
Speaker 3: look the same all over the world, the Greco Roman architecture,
Speaker 3: but everywhere, and that would be an interesting if we founded,
Speaker 3: you know, found these areas as where as it melts whatever.
Speaker 3: Just another thought. But I'll stop on that because I
Speaker 3: just I think I appreciate you guys for listening, and.
Speaker 2: Of course, oh you're awesome and we love the energy
Speaker 2: you bring. All the good cult members have reached out
Speaker 2: to us at how much they love you. You're always You're
Speaker 2: always welcome over here, and you know, we're happy that
Speaker 2: we could be a part of your birthday today, very
Speaker 2: special day. I don't even like to shoot on my
Speaker 2: birthday personally, I want to take the day off. But
Speaker 2: you decided to come and hang out with us. We
Speaker 2: appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Big Time gave me the choice of a day yeah
Speaker 3: with dad twos. I'm like, oh, well this would be awesome.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tam and anybody that wants to be able
Speaker 2: to reach out to you find any of your books,
Speaker 2: all your poems, any of your social media's anything like that.
Speaker 4: Where do they go to for.
Speaker 3: All of that old playing poem on Instagram? And I
Speaker 3: got my doing this and I sent them to you guys, right,
Speaker 3: you've got oh yeah, while I'm here, if it's okay,
Speaker 3: if I can. Also, Victoria Hibbler has been doing awesome,
Speaker 3: incredible books for kids, some flatters, some not. The last
Speaker 3: one is going to be on ken trails, direct energy
Speaker 3: weapons and stuff, so that one's not out yet, but
Speaker 3: that's a preview. And and then we've got our Happi book,
Speaker 3: which is about children from the outer Land extraterrestrials. That's happens.
Speaker 3: And we have a store. It's Charismic Truth Store dot
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Speaker 3: design a lot of the shirts, and we've got hats
Speaker 3: and did you do it's.
Speaker 4: Got the the oh yeah, the art over the.
Speaker 3: Sun and the moon circling the flat earth.
Speaker 5: So yes, indeed, you're doing great work.
Speaker 2: And the conspiracy community appreciates you big time.
Speaker 3: And so you guys make it so much fun. It's
Speaker 3: awesome to get to be on this side. I'm always
Speaker 3: listening to you and laughing instead of you on this side.
Speaker 3: Is great. Thank you.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if you're not laughing and having fun
Speaker 2: doing what you do on a regular basis, you're doing
Speaker 2: life wrong.
Speaker 4: That's just what I think.
Speaker 2: Like I think that we're not designed to sit in
Speaker 2: an office and be miserable from nine to five. We're
Speaker 2: designed to communicate with everybody and and spitball ideas and
Speaker 2: theorize and you know, just enjoy life to the absolute max,
Speaker 2: and it's hard to do that. And you know, in
Speaker 2: some jobs where maybe you're maybe you're set off to
Speaker 2: the side, you don't have anybody else to talk to.
Speaker 2: A lot of these like work from home jobs.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the guy, Oh my gosh, you had
Speaker 3: somebody on and he said, flat earthers are lonely? Did
Speaker 3: they get into this because they're lonely? And I laughed
Speaker 3: so hard.
Speaker 5: Only who was that?
Speaker 2: They say that about conspiracy theorists in general? I actually
Speaker 2: had somebody who is like a somebody who is like
Speaker 2: a All conspiracies are stupid to to certain people, right,
Speaker 2: And they're like, I want to understand the psychology of
Speaker 2: a conspiracy theorist. Is there something wrong with you? Are
Speaker 2: you depressed? Are you anxious? Are you lonely? And I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: it's the exact opposite. I'm trying to talk to as
Speaker 2: many people as I can about this kind of stuff
Speaker 2: because if people became privy to a lot of this information, maybe.
Speaker 4: You wouldn't fall victim to all of the government's plots.
Speaker 4: Maybe you wouldn't have fallen victim and gotten nineteen COVID shots.
Speaker 4: And you know, it's.
Speaker 5: Because conspiracy theorists are all living in our mom's basement.
Speaker 5: We haven't seen sunlight in weeks, and it's like, bro
Speaker 5: first of all, so every conspiracy is just wrong. The
Speaker 5: government is one PC been honest and truthful with us
Speaker 5: since the beginning, that that's a real sentiment that these
Speaker 5: people have. It's like, dude, we prove it. Literally some
Speaker 5: grass and get some oxygen in your loans, Like we
Speaker 5: are living our dream here.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So I told my parents, I'm like, would you put
Speaker 3: would you block the exhaust on your car? That was
Speaker 3: the thing that got me. And it's like, because you
Speaker 3: don't want to breathe in all those fumes and stuff.
Speaker 3: And it's like that's the same thing you're doing with
Speaker 3: the mask.
Speaker 2: And it's just and you know, it's a crazy concept.
Speaker 2: And how dare you, tam You're not a scientist. You
Speaker 2: don't have the right to be able to speak about
Speaker 2: these things.
Speaker 3: I have a weight lab coat with my name and embroidered.
Speaker 4: And as a matter of fact, just just you looking
Speaker 4: into it is dangerous.
Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that you're doing your own research,
Speaker 2: shame on you. Well you shouldn't be doing that, but anyway,
Speaker 2: all right, Tam, well, we appreciate you so much.
Speaker 4: Happy birthday.
Speaker 2: I hope the rest of your day is glorious, and uh,
Speaker 2: we appreciate you big.
Speaker 4: Time, so awesome.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much.
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