Speaker 1: You know, Carl, I went to an OGC party right
not too long ago. It was really positive. A ton
of guys out there. You know, the group in my
kind of the city I live in has been begging
me to show up, and you know, as super Jack
Hack says, the Draco Owner effect is coming in strong.
So I haven't been to anything, and it was awesome,
a ton of guys there. But uh, you know, I
got some feedback that was initially positive. Said you know.
The guy was saying like, wow, I really like your show.
But then he said something that I felt really offended by.
I think you would be offended by two, and he
said I think the shows are the best when you
have nothing planned. And I got really upset, Carl, because
that implied that you and I do anything less than
dozens of hours of prep work for these times.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we always discussed the topic that we're gonna
be talking about in advance.
Speaker 1: We never hastily consider, you know, hey, what are you
doing next Thursday? Nothing in between. Here's a link three
minutes before exactly.
Speaker 2: I know I this morning I was thinking about texting
you what are you thinking about? But then I was like,
fuck it?
Speaker 1: Which is the unofficial tagline of this show. What are
you working on, Carl?
Speaker 2: What have I been working on? I am working on
a screenplay with some people that we know, which I'm
actually very excited about.
Speaker 1: But I've also.
Speaker 2: Been doing some other nonfiction writing and I am enjoying that
trying to because you know, I've been putting out a
lot of pieces on the Spanish Civil War for some
time on my sub stack, and branching out and talking
about other things and applying some rigor to it rather
than it just being like posting right, is a really
nice mental exercise. I've also been playing with AI, and
it is the way i'd put it is, I don't
think the AI apocalypse is here, but I think the
white collar apocalypse is.
Speaker 1: Here, whether or not.
Speaker 2: It's deservedly so, because AI is good enough that you
can automate enough things that, like the C suite is like,
all right, let's cut thirty percent of our staff and
the remainder get real nimble and you know, synergize those
efficiencies and.
Speaker 1: Good luck, Karl. Won't the quality of the product decline?
Speaker 2: Who cares about that? It's like, seriously, in the business world,
my whole career has been automating my way up out
of a job first, and then taking that technical knowledge
and applying it at a slightly higher level, while still
treating the people that do that kind of work like
with respect and actually understanding what they need, but also
watching people stop caring about anything other than like the
ratings and it being up to the guy on the
front line to just figure it out, Like are your
clients unhappy? Figure it out? Are you having are you
not equipped with the tools to and the products that
are you know, hitting in the way that we that
we promise Figure it out, spin it And there's an
element to where that can work for so long. Yes,
Britney would eighteen ninety six excellent year for semi automatic weapons.
Private equity buys your company and then it becomes about
just cutting it to the bone, looking at the Ebadah numbers.
And it's the period that we're in now is identical
to the post two thousand and six two thousand and eight,
like it really like the economy really went off a
cliff in two thousand and eight, where you know, businesses
operate like modern American businesses are a bust out slash
like money cycling thing where where cheap money, free money
basically keep props things up. And the amount of businesses
out there that have these massive valuations that actually are
just hemorrhaging money is a major portion of the market.
Speaker 1: It's wild well and and to that point, it's actually
something I talked about with friend of the show Stormy
Waters and a show that is up behind the paywall.
Give me money, but it'll be out to give day money.
But that was something that you know, prompts that entire
show as we were talking on the phone. And look,
I have a finance degree, bout only any about money,
as should be very apparent to you, carl uh. But
all in all seriousness, right, One of the things that
I was talking to him about was one, are have
we basically been in a recession since eight The way
that those terms are calculated is constantly changed. The one
I remember, you know, likely many others will. I was
in college when Joe Biden and his cronies just redefined
what a recession was so that they could say, hey,
we're not in a recession. And you can look at
that and say, oh, Joe Biden said, you know a
dastardly irishman, which is true, or you can look at
it and say, wait a minute, if we've done this once,
have we ever done it before?
Speaker 2: I was about to say that, like, is I not
only Joe biden Man's but many many Republican uh you know,
many Republican There's there's this whole switchereroo that the parties
do on a regular basis where you know, one party
basically wears out it's welcome, and then the other party
comes in and then they do the same stuff, but
they spin it into like just the right way.
Speaker 1: I was, can you think of one relevant example from
recent weeks?
Speaker 2: Golly, you know it's funny because I was, I'm working
on this piece that I mentioned to you before, where
like gun control, a gun control timeline where things transitioned
from being like managed on the municipal and state level
and a lot of it basically being like European lore,
which is like as like you know, scumback eggs who
are carrying weapons get cop weapons charges and you can
crack them in the head and just like throw them
in a dungeon or execute them. And then also like
people who aren't white can't have guns unless like the
state says it's okay, like that's that's literally European law
for thousands of years, and that's pretty much like much
of the world at at a certain level of development.
And then and then you have these federal innovations where
the frankly major traction for federal gun control came under
Republican leadership, specifically Reagan and Bush Senior. So anyway, my
point being, it's the it's the old switcheroo, and uh
the if you examined the redefining of terms and the
recalculation of terms, you know, like cost of living index
is another good one where they're like cost of living
doesn't involve food, but it does involve big screen TVs.
Speaker 1: It doesn't involve energy, housing, medical, correct, you know, just
those like ancillary details of your life.
Speaker 2: My minor, minor things. It's so like if if mister
Burden was enthroned as our emperor, I cost of living
index would be like secondhand weapons and weapon accessories would
be like the top level things.
Speaker 1: Slightly intoxicated gun broker purchases would be your indication of inflation.
Uh yeah, in all seriousness, but to that point about
you know, obviously going back to your point about you know,
companies in private equity. One of the other questions that's
sort of a knock on from that is how much
of this growth in indexes like the S and P
five hundred, the market writ large is basically just currency debasement,
basically just inflation, because again with cost of living, inflation
is hidden. You know, if you look at the shadow stats, right,
the rate for the last couple of years comes up
to twelve to fifteen percent, and you think about it,
Wait a minute, that's above the market rate. So if
you actually think about it, it's like, well, yeah, sure
your money is in the market and it might be
doing well. But if you compare that to actual functional inflation,
the math changes. And similarly as regards to companies, right, well,
your compensation, as you and I have gone into before,
is heavily dependent on stock price. And so if you're
already riding the wave of just basic inflation and then
can throw in some kind of short term cost cutting,
or your stock price can on paper explode while not
actually doing anything to benefit the company itself. You know,
one of the big stories of in the last several weeks,
and it's been a while since we've you know, talked
to Carl, is you know, the massive tech offshoring, right,
companies like Amazon and Google laying off over ten thousand
workers apiece and employing tens of thousands in mostly India.
Let's be honest, yes, is there a you know, shall
we say ethno sectarian component to that. I will leave
my viewers to decide. But also and they'll all say yes, yeah, yes,
But also right, we understand that that is a cost
saving measure. You don't have to pay benefits to these people.
You don't have to pay them, you know, as the
socialists say a livable wage in America, you can you know,
hire these people at three to one. And does it
make the product worst? Sure? Well, does it make the
product worse in a fast enough time span for the
people sitting at the top to care about it? Exactly? No,
clearly not.
Speaker 2: And you know, on top of that, I have this, uh,
I have this theory of of how this AI bubble
is going to play out. And I must admit that
it's based on my experience in the in the business world,
servicing Fortune one hundred companies, uh, you know, servicing them
in however however you want to interpret that term. It
feels like sometimes this is a this is a highly
planed tactical stream. We are going to be using hand
planers wooden blocks with pieces of sharpened iron in it
to plane things by by the time this this bubble bursts.
So anyhow, Uh, the way that things in the past
have worked, and I've seen continuously, is that.
Speaker 1: The any any.
Speaker 2: Sort of efficiencies introduced by soft where which are extensive.
Let's be honest, let me give it. Let me give
an illustration. When my father was twenty four years old
working as an accountant at a big firm, they put
you through like an eighteen month to two year like grind,
and those who survive can work for them. He had
a secretary doing entry level work because he needed to
focus on the work. She would handle correspondents and you know,
all the like little logistical things.
Speaker 1: And then by the.
Speaker 2: Time he retired owning a pretty good sized business, don't
docs me or anything, he shared a secretary with four
other executives under him and his company. He had a
co owner and then two other guys who are pretty important.
They all shared one secret terry because software made things
so efficient that they they literally didn't need an extra
you know, mouth sitting there. Basically, you know, someone to
pay a big salary to and benefits to because there
just wasn't enough work. So it's it's really interesting because
you know, and and again like I said, I've kind
of I've automated my way out of work, and a
lot of the grunt work that I used to do
very manually is something that like tools that the company subscribe,
you know, subscribes to with X number of accounts, having
access to it on an annual basis is pretty efficient
and gets around a lot of this automated work that
you have to do.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: The ability to set up little AI agents and I'll
put a little asterisk here and we'll come back to
it is good enough for a lot of kinds of
things that I that there's this mania, there's been a
mania for eight to ten years in business that AI
is coming and AI is going to automate XYZ. Well,
it only automates like rote work, but it can streamline
and simplify your access to what's really important. And so
you hit this equation where people need decompression time while
doing work, while doing intense work, and then going to
meetings which hopefully are actually doing things Unlike you know,
most executives now where it seems like their job is
putting people in meetings and wasting their time so they
can't get work done. But anyway, there's a lot of
things that you can make more efficient. But then the
burnout comes, because if anyone has worked in a high churn,
high volume kind of job of any kind that's very
manual and stuff, people burn out brutally and like in
there were industries I worked in where the average person
lasted twelve to eighteen months and if I stuck it
out long enough that and I was completely fried. But
it was good for me to learn that discipline. Yes,
the burnout do be like that. It was good to
learn that because it gives you a lot of perspective
and it gives you the appropriate like emotional detachment to
where you can separate like this is just the job,
and this is something I should be upset about. Right,
So by making people more efficient in these white collar jobs,
we're already at a situation where the average person is
like bringing work home with them. They have the stupid
device attached to them at all times. Bosses. You know,
I had a situation where I had someone complaining that
I wasn't responding to emails at ten am on Sunday
that were being sent by a client at nine am
on Sunday morning because I was in church with my family,
and the homosexual was like, you know, you really should
be paying closer attention to taking care of our client
and making them feel serviced. And yes, so people like
that world is going to become so incredibly disgruntled. But
at the same time, again because of outsourcing, because of automation,
because of frankly, things that get rid of, like good workers.
People are just happy to have a job, and a
lot of the like fake jobs that we saw introduced
in twenty twenty in twenty twenty one for you know,
special classifications of people. A lot of that stuff is
frankly going away out of necessity, but there's still room
for it in certain kinds of organizational structures. A lot
of the nonsense is going away, but their businesses are
like really embracing this really silly culty vibe to try
to keep people there and engaged.
Speaker 1: So my to that point, Carl the sort of infamous
quote that I stole from one of my friends, and
he says, you know, this is basically repeated like a
mantra is well, we're not doing well, we're doing good,
you know, yeah, completely shifted, yes, completely shifting, Yes, the
sort of you know, goalposts. And one of the interesting
things that he brings up is that especially in kind
of non core areas, right, you know, areas of the
country that aren't you know, New York, LA, what have it,
that the corporate world is kind of behind the times,
especially in these small to mid sized companies. So they
are still going through kind of woke classic two or
three years past the sell by date.
Speaker 2: And religious religious institutions do this as well, and conservative
coded institutions are in the same cycle.
Speaker 1: Sorry, please go on, oh, one hundred percent. And you
see this with and and you know, I'm not a
Southern Baptist, but you see this with the guys you
know talking about what's going on at the SBC or
any of these other kind of evangelic organizations, that they
are going through what the corporate world did five ten
years ago. Uh, it's it's on a delay, right, even
with you know, the Internet expediting that process. But to
your to your point about AI, you know, I still
have some contacts in the healthcare world. I spent some
time there, and you know, one of the things that
has become really endemic there is you know, the replacement
of a lot of you know, patient facing roles. Yes.
For instance, you know what we would kind of derogatory
refer to as like the window witches, right, the people
who sit behind the glass and tell you where to go.
But right now, that is in a you know, auxiliary role. Right,
there's an iPad and you you know, use the little
a chatbot to sign in. But we all know where
that's going, right, And look, I'm not going to pretend
that you know, ladies who work at hospital front desks
are you know, the cornerstone of the economy. But that
is a job, right, and you see where that's going.
It's like, okay, well I can track this. And again,
you know, what does your eighty five year old grandmother
do with an ipades? Indeterminate exactly. That's not the real purpose,
you know, from kind of the top down on that.
And one of the interesting things, Carl that I'm kind
of curious to watch, and this came up in my
conversation with Peter Burtelow, but also my article at Chronicles,
which you can read. I'll drop excellent plugs.
Speaker 2: By the way, sir, Yeah, look at that professional podcaster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and most of the time when I say that,
it's because I'm an idiot who doesn't know how to
unmute my mic. But was one of the things that
I've been sort of wondering about is the the fact that,
you know, immigration, migrant workers and offshoring has up until
relatively recently, primarily been a problem for dirty, stinky people.
We don't like speaking, of course, as the kind of
you know, coastal, ely liberal.
Speaker 2: And software engineers who are dirty, stinky people we don't
like parting. Yeah, the c suite hates software developers. They really,
it's really, it's really insane anyway.
Speaker 1: Sorry, you know, Javier Olivia, I think that this is
a good point. You know, it used to be you
would work, get a divorce, and then a heart attack
and crash out by fifty. They're taking our American birthright
to expect end to yourself in pursuit of an ultimately
meaningless career, and that will not stand. Uh where was
I before? Yeah, But one of the things that I've
been curious about is as that sort of goes up
the economic chain, you know, we're starting to see this
hit the kind of laptop class jobs. As you know,
these sort of you know, H one B and other
pieces are applied more and more broadly. I'm curious if
that demographic will move in their own economic interest or
if the kind of ideological connection to progress platitudes on
immigration are sort of buried too deep. Do you have
a thought on that, Carl.
Speaker 2: It's it's you know, it's it's kind of hard to
it's kind of hard to know exactly how to respond
to that, because there's a We're going to see a
very interesting juggling act of all these things because frankly,
the the conditions that were under don't really they require
a pivot in all of their you know, framing of
these things that they're doing to us. And frankly, a
lot of business leaders have been struggling with this themselves.
Like you know, if you look at the the Silicon
Valley guys who threw in behind Trump when they realized
the shift and the coalitions, they were like, we need
to really do something because we are finally getting screwed
to it is. It is the the the irreconcilable contradictions
in the way this stuff has been you know, percolating
or hitting us now and keeping us from doing our thing,
and that one of the problems that we have out
here in prol Land is that there are a lot
of memes in the kind of like i'll say, quote
unquote dissidence space, but it's really the uh, it's really
the highly intelligent yet uh basically you know, shoved aside
white guy, competent, white guy world. And and there's there's
some like incompetent people in this that this applies to
as well, but generally like there's a there's a there
is an underlying rage, as Britney Wood points out again,
that that is percolating out there, and and a lot
of it was really fundamentally incorrect in a lot of
ways about presuppositions or they're they're direct they were directionally correct,
but a lot of the details are wrong as far
as like who's the one keeping you down? And people
consuming like the easily available propaganda spin associated with that,
like you know, it was like the Rockefellers and all
those guys. You know that there's this really there's this
muddled perspective on reality that in a lot of ways,
there's good points to it, but it becomes confused because
of just people being angry, frankly, and so as we
sort through all of these things and get directional and
realize that part of the problem is our individualistic attitudes
and our non nationalist attitudes. Although there's fair debates to
be had about how natural America is, you know, it's
given its empiric form rather than really national form. Maybe
although that could, we don't know how that's really going
to play out. It makes it a really interesting thing
because everyone has to shift their talking points based on
the conditions on the ground right now and the changes
and you you really do have to appeal to people
who could theoretically like do the thing to you. And
that's becoming like a plurality of America at this point
in time because everyone has been told like, screw you,
you don't matter. Well, little you know, Italian guys in
green hats appearing in the dark in New York City
and then disappearing again can become full heroes in more
ways than one, because you know, there's much ruin in
a nation.
Speaker 1: So carl slight change the subject. When I went to
grab the link that chronicles piece comment section mostly very positive,
one negative piece rather negative one. You know, my opinion
on you know, the GOP's futile efforts to reaching out
towards immigrants, minorities, and full name. I just decided let
me google the name. Who could have guessed? I'll leave
it to that. Who could have.
Speaker 2: Many such cases? Did you look at a purse, a
picture of them or the early life? No?
Speaker 1: I just went to u ancestry dot com.
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you I mean? I know I can
I can tell just by looking at that name.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, Carl, I try to be a good,
good liberal.
Speaker 2: He gave me the benefit of the doubt. You you
said I want to be I want to be sure. Yeah,
A true camp A true camper doesn't even have to
consult that information. Uh, I see, I see uh Tyson
Hockley and chat. We do have an episode scheduled. I'm
excited to get him.
Speaker 1: Oh nice. Yeah, yeah, the uh this has been I
don't ever intend uh to have themes right when I
when I do, like weeks of program, but like the
last two weeks have just turned into the the UK
and Canada just back to back with more on the
way anyway, point being uh, yeah, it's I think that
that's a very that matches up with what I've what
I have sort of anecdotally seen, and you see every
couple of weeks there's sort of this continual dialogue of
you know, I shouldlways say Hindu nationalist type you know, blaming,
uh you know, Pakistan disinformation Uh, you know retired YouTube
star qud Pie for you know, normalizing uh, you know,
a negative opinion of you know, his nation. And I
think what's interesting is that, you know, almost invariably there's
the you know, the quote tweet dunk that's like, no,
it's not yet. You guys just started showing up. Yeah,
And honestly, like, to me, the the first I really heard, like,
you know, anything really about India at all other than
just to like, you know, nations of the world kind
of thing, uh was you know the Bobs and Jean saga,
which was very very early, you know, back in the
days where Facebook was still relevant. Yeah. It was you know,
just the most insane, illiterate sexual aggression, which, let's be honest,
very very funny, uh open cloth you know show show
Bobs like it was pretty funny, but you know, the
idea that this is just simply some sort of like
you know, psyop campaign, right, I think is completely and
totally inaccurate. And to that point, even in you know,
shall we say kind of like genteel progressive settings, uh,
you see those ideas, uh, due to cultural differences, I'll
put it that way. And I'm curious to see how
that develops, especially as the the kind of consequences of
you know, you know, the kind of open marketplace of
labor continue to be felt kind of up and down
the the socioeconomic ladder. Point for another stream perhaps, But Corey,
you have written a pretty interesting article, which admittedly you
sent at roughly three am my time, so I haven't
had a chance to go through it because I am
an old man and go to bed promptly at nine
to fifty five. But point is right. It's a pretty
interesting idea, and obviously you know you're putting it out
for publication. I'm not asking you to go through it.
But in my state, apparently New Mexico, you know a
few others, right, gun control is on the table again. Yeah,
and you know you and I were even talking about
it before we before we got going. This is in
the last episode we had with Artic Wolf.
Speaker 2: You know, he was inspired by our conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I'm curious if you could, you know,
not trying to get you to spoil the article, but
could you describe like your thought process and you know
what you you took away from that last conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So to summarize I as as much as I
talk about subjects that are very negative, uh like, and
you have to understand that these things are negative. I
try to be the white pill guy, like we're in
a mutual group chat where I'm almost inevitably the like,
but think about it this way, they're screwing themselves and
that's what's good. I always try to spin it that way.
It doesn't mean like that dark times aren't a head.
I'm just very confident, and frankly, a huge amount of
that is.
Speaker 1: I feel like.
Speaker 2: This is gonna sound insane, but my religious faith allows
me to put things into perspective on a very long timeline,
and I become very fatalistic about theme things. And maybe
I've read Dune too many times, but like you, when
you see a trend that is inevitable, it doesn't make
sense to fixate on it and and be like, oh
whoe is me. There's there's this line from the Hagaqua,
which is Japanese. And yes, I have I have weebish tendencies,
but but there's great wisdom in it. And and it
fits into the Christian ethos as well, which is you're
walking through a town and there's a rainstorm. The man
who like ducks in and out of under the eaves
of houses to like try not to get wet as
much or to avoid getting wet, still gets just as
soaked as the man who walks right down the middle
of the road, you know, on a long enough timeline, right,
So like, if you're standing under the eaves of a
house and it's raining, you're fine. But if you're walking
along the road, you're gonna get soaking wet no matter what.
But you will become, uh, you will become perplexed. If
you're trying not to get wet. It's it's you. If
you resolve yourself and you accept that you're going to
get wet, you're fine. And uh, Carl Doll is all
about getting wet anyway.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: So my point is, my point is gun control is this,
and and the legal the the the legal regulatory world
of things. Uh, yes they're real. Yes, they're a consideration.
But what really matters is what these things are for.
And this isn't a hobby where dumping you know, mag
dumping at nine hundred rpm into a hillside, while fun
is like the purpose of these devices, right, the second
Amendment isn't a hobby or a lifestyle, which is something
that you see all the time online. And it's insane
to think that you need and don't misinterpret my words,
but if you have a functioning ar fifteen thirty thirty
round magazines a bunch of twenties because they're handy and
parts and load out like, you're pretty good to go,
and so you should just train with that weapon. And
so it's not the end of the world to be
grandfathered in when a state restriction is put in place. Also,
state level restrictions really on a long enough timeline are
not that big of a deal, you know, like the
people and I'm not saying you shouldn't fight it, of
course you should fight it in more ways than one,
but lawfully legally. But like, given the trend line as
to where we are in America twenty twenty six and
what the future holds for us, like this is not
the time to panic and move to Arizona so that
you can stay inside a house that you only leave
because you have air conditioning. And then three months out
of the year, you pat yourself on the back for
your low tax rate and mag dump you know, Folato
into into a dirt berm in the desert. Like it's
insane that this defeatist mentality of running away and accepting
your fate. You knows as you're defeated, but you pat
yourself on the back for your freedoms in a state
that is like rapidly becoming Mexican. That running away you
will not survive and your your children and grandchildren will
not survive with a running away way mentality. You have
to confront this stuff and the time for that, uh
is coming. And on the federal level, the deregulations are
coming hot and heavy, and a lot of it is
basically inevitable from nullification. Yes, lots of widows selling millsyrup
in Arizona, that's true by them. There's I'm not saying.
I'm not saying that, Like you shouldn't take advantage of
the fact that that boomers with you know, massive gun
collections dying, you know, isn't something that you can avail
yourself of that. The the boomer amassing of these great
things and the skyrocketing and these prices is being countered
by boomer attrition, general lack of money out there anyway,
and gluts of these weapons like World War two stuff.
It for example, is coming down in price in reality
when people actually want to sell stuff, like if you're
buying it from like a specialty website, that their price
is skyrocket. But you can get stuff out there. And
then as the boomers die off, as the people with
massive disposable incomes die off, they're not being replaced by
people with massive disposable incomes. And nearly the numbers that
you're used to. Ten years from now, you're going to
be able to get an M one carbon or a
grand right. Yes, you can buy thermal imaging and night
vision in Virginia. You can buy level floor four plates,
get multi curve. Single curve like works on paper, but
it gets very uncomfortable. Trust me, you're gonna want multi curve.
You can get all all the stuff that you need.
And then and you have enough to defend yourself individually
and collectively. And the important thing here is that the
only way we win and advance against these incursions against
us by our enemies is by asserting our historic rights,
which is not because there's a piece of paper, it's
because we because we say so, and we back it
up and ten years from now, like some thing some
libtard says, you know, and has a piece of paper
that like a Bangladeshi can can take away your your
European rights to arms as an individual. Like people will
be laughing about that with their feed up on like
structures made of human skulls like I. It's it's completely
saying that people think that twenty twenty six is nineteen
eighty two. We saw if you go back to nineteen
sixty one, there was almost no on paper legal carry
permits issued with outside of like friends of the cops
and the elites around the whole country. However, regular people
were carrying guns all the time and it wasn't a problem.
The police would generally be like, we're going to enforce
it against like the problems, and you would have some
sort of positive defense like oh, well you're a business
owner and you were carrying a lot of money and
you were on your way to your business. Whatever. They
would make allowances for people, but then because everyone has
equal rights, they had to start enforcing the law, and immediately,
shallice you carry became a thing. Washington State was the
first state in America in nineteen sixty one to adopt
shall issue carry laws, so they required that if you
were not a felon and you weren't a problem, they
had to issue you a carry permit when you requested
one and paid for one, and there was no test
or anything like that. And now we have and Texas,
the wonderful state of Texas that everyone thinks is so based,
didn't have concealed carry laws until nineteen ninety five, like
it was in the eighties and nineties when things really
shifted to where the South had shall issue carry laws.
And now all these places have constitutional carry right, which is,
if you're not Don Quavius, you can carry. You can
go strapped, concealed carried, or open carry. You should probably
concealed carrie, but you should also not care if people
know you're armed. There's a difference between that and open carry.
So these trends shift all the time. The NFA, like
huge portions of the NFA are basically going to be
gone forever on the federal level because one, people introduce
devices which basically used federal equal protection laws to make
short bailed rifles and short bailed shotguns like those laws
almost basically unenforceable, and so legislators said this is nonsense
atf basically agreed, and now you have short bailed rifles
and short barreled shotguns with no tax on a tax law,
which means it's going to get thrown out probably within
a year, and so you're welcome suppressors. Also, suppressors make
a lot of sense. They're a safety to device, et cetera.
This is a back end legalization of and deregulation of suppressors.
So on the federal level, the Feds are being swamped
by technologies. Here's another one, forcedryset triggers and super safeties.
They technically, because of the way they're constructed and their
mechanisms function in compliance with or or in such a
fashion that they pass muster at the federal level as
being semi automatic and not a machine gun, right, but
they have highly semi automatic function. They're fully semi automatic, right,
and so that is essentially protected thoroughly at the federal level,
which means there's another challenge to the NFA right there,
just sitting there, pulsating in front of us, Like, what's
the real difference. So these things are happening on the
federal level because the scaffolding of legal restrictions that were
imposed upon us during the twentieth century don't really pass
muster logically, coherently, constitutionally, and historically. So those are going away.
So you have state laws and the libtards are like, well,
we can do anything because we're just gonna shove it
down your throat because we you know, we gerrymander and
do X y Z till we own you forever. Is
that going to continue? I'm pretty skeptical. Is it gonna
It can continue for a while, but is it going
to continue past the point of like the thing that's
looming ahead of us?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Probably not. So don't despair. Stack the stuff that you
need first and take care of it in a logically
coherent way. My article is about that. But it's also
not the end of the world. If you're stuck with
like semi automatic shotguns that don't have pistol grips. Those
are incredible weapons for blowing holes in people. They're basically
the best ever law enforcement has been using semi automatic
shotguns cut down with extended magazine tubes since nineteen hundred.
You know, there's a lot of things that you should
really not worry that much about in terms of the
general trends, but most importantly assert yourself and yes, proliferation
is the real second amendment. Like this runaway, I'm going
to go retire and live in Texas because Texas is
so wonderful. Give me a break like that, This mentality
is all wrong. We need to start. We need to
start to think about nullification, clustering in our zones, reinforcing
each other, establishing parallel institutions, and resisting these things as collectives.
And this gets us going. This gets us, This just
helps get us started. And frankly, these economic indicators get
us started in that because what makes you dependent on
the system is being dependent on those good boy points
from these jobs that are going away. AI empowers you
as an individual to have capabilities finally, like barely right now,
like I'm starting to be I'm starting to believe. I'm like, wow,
this is actually really useful to me as an individual.
I'm using AI for stuff that it couldn't do a
month ago. That is streamlining my productivity in certain projects
that I have, and.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: And so by using these things like smart intelligent people,
we have to separate ourselves from our dependence on this
system and reassert ourselves by establishing our own systems lawfully, legally,
thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so several things there. One, even if you are
heavily behind enemy lines with nothing to your name, right,
to be honest, you can do way worse than a
CMPM one grand. Yes, okay, it's a little long, but
they're they're quite shootable, and to be perfectly honest, like
you can you can do a lot with that. But
I'm highlighting this comment from Josh Pulver, and I'm not
jumping on this guy. I think that this is a common, yes,
a common objection. Right. The problem is we can only
have small arms. What is allowed to civilians is basically
World War one small arms tech with some extra lights
and lasers. We don't stand a chance against air sea capabilities.
I mean, yes, one hundred percent, right. But this whole
like resisting tyranny frame, you know that this whole kind
of seventeen seventy six frame, in my mind, is completely
and totally the wrong way to look at it. Yes,
friend of the show Andrew Edwards wrote a really interesting novel,
King of Dogs, and he's obviously a very capable tracker
survivalist type himself. That's probably a slur, but he's a
capable guy. So the technical aspects of it are quite good.
Albeit it was sort of written before drones, so there's
some stuff missing there. But what he's basically talking about
is not some sort of like you know, great rise
up rebellion, but basically sort of the South Africa situation.
You know, where things just get way worse. You know
that there's still technically a government. There are still you know,
big corporations and PMCs and criminal gangs, but a lot
of stuff there just isn't much rule of law. And
so if you look at a place like South Africa,
it's like, well, okay, like those guys have on paper
about the same gun law as we do. Yeah, are
those enforced?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: But is that a useful thing to have for obvious reasons, right,
it is a dangerous place to be. Your physical security
is your own responsibility, and the physical security of your
community is your own responsibility. You saw this five years ago.
There were a bunch of I think they called them
like the taxi cab riots. I can't remember. I talked
to South Africans enough, but a garbage on their histories.
They can all tell you. But when these big riots
were happening, the colored community, which is not a slur,
it's an actual ethnic group there, basically had their roof
Korean moment. And okay, sure there's more of a government
there in South Africa than there could be in you
know a place like Somalia or Libya. But those guys
didn't get prosecuted. There's not really a way to get
it prosecuted.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: Their businesses didn't get burnt down. And okay, yeah, if
the rioters had had you know, offshore naval assets, they'd
be screwed. But that's not really the situation they're in.
And I see Sean Wyland talking about, you know, the
mindset that you see among certain you know, gun tubers,
like you know, brass facts and hop who I've spoken
to before, the prepared citizen. And you know, I may
have differences in you know, belief for framing with those
two guys, but I think that is an acceptable, like
a good way to look at it, which is like,
look you're not trying to fight the fence. You shouldn't
do that. It's illegal. But also like, yeah, one hundred percent,
like they have predator druns, right, they can send a
group of you know, uh, you know, you know, FBI
HR three to kick down your door and turn you
into chef Boyardy. That's not the point, but the point
is right, if you're looking at the trajectory of this thing,
this country, this nation, we've already seen pretty dramatic declines
in the rule of law. You know, you and I
have been talking about the normalization of political violence for months. Now.
What's the murder clearance? Right? It is pretty low and
I am not a fan of murder. We only take
Britain stances murders show. But at the same time, it's like, okay, well,
like if present trends continue, it is a wise thing
to invest in. By the way, I just want to
do this because I'll forget otherwise. We have a few, uh,
we have a few super chats from the last couple shows.
By the way, if you want to send super chats, no,
two things. One I will read them. And two, now
that Karl and I are gonna be doing these lives
dreams more regularly. Half everything goes to Carl. So if
you think I'm an idiot I don't want to give
him money, well guess what have Let's going to Carl.
So just a few and then we can continue with
this conversation and a few comments I want to hire
or want to highlight rather. Paladin yyz very generously like
almost as soon as I pressed the end stream button,
sent in a very large super chat where he said,
not the kind of podcast I can just PLoP into
forty five minutes late. We'll have to rewatch great guest.
I agree, Ardwolf is a great guest, and Paladin is
very generous. These last two were on my streams with Arch.
Go back and check those out. I think that came
out on the twenty ninth. I used to listen to
Arch every night to go to sleep. He convinced me
that Warhammer forty K was real, actually very similar. Warhammer
forty K is real, and I used to listen to
Arch when I worked horrible manual jobs. For instance, I
was telling one of my buddies about this is just
as horrible disaster I was doing. Thai all was supposed
to be, you know, putting fake styrofoam stones on a
fireplace was stupid. But anyway, the guy was working for
he didn't often do this, but he was the contractor
for a full floor renovation, right so the kitchen, so
he had cabinet guys doing that, and the wood floors
were supposed to be refinished, and the guy he got
to do them didn't do his job correctly, didn't prep everything.
So he refinished the floors and when he put the
top coat on, it basically like beat it up on
top and then froze like a rock, so it looked
like like tree sap, right, just like these little like
clear bubbles. And so for basically a week and a half,
because this guy wouldn't show up to fix his work,
I was standing and mopping the floors with this like
horrible gummy half cubed cured resin. And the whole time
I was listening to arch Warhammer, specifically his series on
the Siege of Rocks, which is quite good. I highly
recommend it if you can still find it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yes, I can't read your name, but you are correct
generally speaking. One more from that same one. The best
answer to all of this is trump Buddha. Yes, sort
of mode. I try to emulate, right. So anyway, Sorry
that was a big, big digression, but I see a
guy talking about last thing you need is kind of
an affordable rifle. Basically, not to get too into this
like autisma. Wise, buy a stripped lower if you're handy
with tools, put it together. Yeah, it'll be like one
hundred bucks. Honestly, go to piece Geek and get one
for thirty bucks. I own a bunch of them. The
parts are another eighty ninety bucks. And then get you
a sensible sixteen inch free float upper from a company
that you've heard of all in your probably five six
hundred bucks or something that's fully capable. Not to get
too much into the autism, but if you don't know
where to go, that'll work. And when I say decent company,
I don't mean like BCA Anderson Rip, like DPMs anything like. Honestly,
the mid tier PSA stuff is perfectly fine, especially if
you're you know, competent enough to check that everything was
correctly installed by Don Quavius.
Speaker 2: It probably was, given that they're in Lakewood, Washington.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. Sorry, I just expel this cat. Oh
we had a forty dollars super chat very generous from
Superjackhack two. I just want to give Carl his twenty
bucks and all that implies. Let me tell you, with
Carl that gets you a lot. Carl is the originator
and popularizer of the phrase I'm not gay, but twenty
dollars is twenty dollars in the same group chat you
were you were talking about earlier, you don't just gotta
I will get too much into it, but it's got
people you have heard of. You're a lot like basically
like the Inquisition group chat. And for whatever reason, Carl,
and genuinely, I'm so sorry for this. We've all just
decided to make fun of Carl constantly because you were
by far the nicest person in the group chat. It's
just the most slandered me, and so I'd like to apologize.
I won't stop doing it, but I do at least
feel bad about it. And then Josh Pulver with the
very correct advice just do an arrow lower and a
bcm upper. Yeah, honestly, it's it's the it's the reddit build,
but it's it's great. It's what you should do if
you have the money. If you don't, you might need
to be a little more creative, but it's it's not
rocket science. Are you still there? Hmmm? Carl is not there,
so we'll vamp for a little bit. Uh, all right,
and Sean, I will neither confirm nor deny certain rumors,
but some have said that, yeah, I think what I
might do there goes Carl or the sort of second
half of this I've got another forty five minutes is
go through my article on Chronicles Magazine. I sent the
link to it. If you don't mind go over there
leave them a comment. It helps me out. You know,
I'm trying to do more writing. But the context of
this will be familiar to those who've heard me talk, right,
I kind of develop ideas live on air, and then
you know, go from there and turn it into an article.
And I won't be doing a direct read through, just
kind of going through this article I should take down.
That's a horrible message to have stuck over my face
while I read something serious. I'm going to use it
as an outline. Right, So the name in this article
is called insert of Natural Conservatives by me Jay Burden
in Chronicles Magazine. So basically I start off by going
through the sort of platitudes of the conservative movement, things like,
you know, family values, hard working Americans. Yeah, the kind
of mostly harmless phrases that you can hear in any
RNC speech since you know, really the eighties, but particularly
I drew attention to one natural conservatives or natural Republicans
and this idea that conservative or culturally conservative immigrant groups
will inevitably become GOP voters. Right. This is an idea
that over the past forty years has just been repeated
ad nausea. Endless amounts of money, endless amount of time
has been spent pursuing this goal. And additionally, anyone who
dissents from it is perched. You know, they're just thrown out.
And yes, I will be getting the super chats in
a little bit. I just want to go through this
to kind of keep going for the second half of
the stream, which, by the way, I haven't heard from
Carl at all, so I assume he got black backed anyway.
So particularly that phrase was made popular by Ronald Reagan.
For instance, in a Spanish language broadcast during one of
his I think it was the second presidential run, he
said this phrase, Latinos are Republicans, they just don't know
it yet. George Bush made similar comments justifying the pathway
to citizenship right the big amnesty back then, and this
argument has re emerged in the kind of woke right
moral panic that has sprung up really after about October seventh.
But let's be honest, also in relation to figures like Cocker,
Carlson and Nick Fuentes and their conversation. But I took
a quote from Rod Dreyer what I saw and heard
in Washington, where the conservative commentator quoted an anonymous Maga
Zoomer policy wonk and person of color. So this is
that alleged source, and I say alleged for obvious reasons.
Describing Nick fund as his followers, he said, they're delusional.
There are a lot of immigrants and native born members
of ethnic groups were natural Republicans at phrase, and whom
Donald Trump won in twenty twenty four. Take Indians for example.
Interesting reveal there. The point is right, we see that
phrase natural Republicans. That idea is present even in modern
kind of house conservative commentary allegedly from a Maga Zoomer
policy wonk person of color if you believe so, carrying
on right, just as you know Reagan and Bush before him,
this guy is claiming that socially conservative immigrant groups are
a voter base. And wait, just right there for the
taking from the GOP, the conservative right, and the thing,
the reason we need to continue this purge is they're
going to scare them off. But look like the central
premise is completely and totally false. We understand here that Hispanics,
American Blacks, other immigrant groups continually vote for communists, right,
even though you know, if you ask these people, you know,
Black Americans, Somali's for example, their opinions on different issues, right,
gay marriage, just almost sexuality rit large, you'll get a
very conservative, right wing answer, right, Like, can you imagine
talking to like a Nation of Islam guy about LGBTQ stuff.
He's probably not a fan. So initially, on first viewing,
this seems like a contradiction, right, this seems like something
that follows this kind of logic of the natural conservative.
But hey, Carl, you back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my internet decided to go bye bye right when
we were talking about me being a potential homosexual.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a sign from God. I hate to say it,
I guess it's just true. If you're not there to
defend yourself, you know, you're get into anyway, Carl, I
was going through my article in Chronicles, right, you know,
going through kind of the the idea of the natural conservative,
the natural Republican, and then going into that central premise
that you know, many of these groups who vote for
communists are on their own quite socially conservative. But there
are two issues, right, One they're clients of the cultural left,
and two they understand that there's a difference between conserving
their culture and conserving our culture. Look like you guys
understand the DNC patronage system, right, They're very good at it.
I mean, look, sure, you know Black Americans and amusing
them as this in because they are the most monolithic
voting block in the country. And also the GOP has
been gunning for that group for longer than either of Yeah, now,
look like that's been true since FDR for obvious reasons.
But look at the Civil Rights Act, which, in addition
to giving a ton of welfare, not literally the Civil
Rights Act, but you know, in the same kind of timeframe,
also gave like sweeping rights. For instance, you know, the
idea that any situation where you know, minority groups are underrepresented,
there's the assumption of racism that the federal government has
a whole division at the DOJ designed to step in
and correct that. I mean, look like this is the
kind of like this is an absurd privilege, Like why
would you ever go for equality? Right? Also, we understand
that there's huge negative rights right, freedom from prosecution, freedom
from gun laws. I mean, just look at the atf
under Biden. Yeah, the the blicky as they say. Also,
I specifically cited the case of one Gary O. Edwards,
a brother who stabbed a homeless who stabbed another white
guy in Portland July this of last year. And look
like there's video evidence of that. But the jurors acquitted
Edwards because while being stabbed, the other guy dropped a
game or work. Right, The idea was the problem is
not you know, there's a stabbing, but it's the while
being stabbed, this guy besmirched the honor of a client group.
Like this is basically the law that the Sammurai had,
you know, where it's like if a peasant, you know,
insulted them, you could just draw your katana and you know,
kind of cut them in half. So clearly, right there
there's some privilege here, as they say, But what does
the GOP offer well, sure you know that they have
you know, like a certain amount of tolerance, right, you're
likely to advance, you know, up through the ladder really
really quickly. Like the old joke is like, what do
you call a black guy at an RNC meeting, mister chairman? Right? Yeah,
But effectively they're offering you equality, right, equality of opportunity.
They're basically running with the stated premise of nineties Democrats. Uh,
but let's be honest. Who would rationally take that deal? Right?
Who would say I will give up all of these
privileges in exchange for equality, right? I kind of ironically
quote you know the old progressive saw. When you're accustomed
to privilege, equality feels like oppression. And look, we've seen
this in actuality work out right, this this program has
been run for like years, decades, and even in my
own state, right, we ran a you know, a a
immigrant woman of color and she won six to seven
percent of the black vote. For instance, you have the root.
I didn't cite this, but I should have, basically saying
when some earl Sears isn't black, which you know should
not be surprising to anyone who's paying attention, but also
that other aspect I talked about, right, the gap between
being personally conservative for your own culture and conservative broadly
speaking is it all comes down to what is your nation? Right.
This is sort of the quote from my good friend
Kevin Deanna where he says, you know, everyone is a
blood and soil nationalist for the nation they actually care about. Right.
You see this particularly in the kind of anti Ice
riots of early last year, the Larraza stuff or ilhan Omar, Right,
despite being one of the most left wing you know,
members of in the legislature, when she speaks in her
own language, Like there's a clip that went pretty viral,
you know a few years ago, she's talking in Somali saying,
you know, I am there as a representative of Somali people.
I am there to make sure that Ethiopia doesn't take
any Somali territorial waters. That's a weird thing for someone
who you know, allegedly represents the nation of America and
specifically the people of Minnesota. That seems quite far away from,
you know, an inter African speed over tribal waters. But
nonetheless that's what happens. And perhaps one of the most
insidious parts is that Republicans think they can run sort
of seventy percent of this program and get the same results. Right,
give that same unwavering loyalty from these minority groups I mentioned,
of course, right when some earl sears who despite checking
off all of those boxes one seven percent of the
Black vote, twenty percent of the Asian and thirty three
percent of the Latino vote, which again, you know, if
these are groups supposedly that Trump won, like Indians who
I believe it's thirty percent voted for Trump, Well, one,
why is it not happening? And two like, why would
you support the importation of more people who vote against you?
Basically two to one? Right? Carrying on? Uh, enumerate, yes, yeah, enumerate,
And oftentimes you see these sort of good hearted conservative
types will instantly pivot to civil rights language. Right, talking
about Democrats? Is the real racists bringing up the Civil War?
John C. Calhoun any other similarly unfashionable past Democrats. But like, guys,
come on, we understand that that argument is literally only
made by those people, and it is widely mocked by
the entire political left and those specific minority groups. That racism,
for whatever we want to say of the Democratic Party
is completely and totally irrelevant to these patronage networks. So
what's the answer, right, This came up in my conversation
with Peter Bremilo. Well, it's the sailor strategy, right. It
is the white majority, the heritage Americans, the people who,
let's be honest, vote for the GOP. Well why not
to be honest? I think a lot of baby boomers,
particularly conservative baby boomers, are completely and totally traumatized by
the idea of being on the right, the wrong side
of history. Yeah, like, deep down, they actually do believe
that they are the villains, that they don't deserve to
rule unless they have I was about to use a
potentially problematic phrase there, I'll leave it. But unless they
have the seal of approval of minority groups, particularly Black Americans,
that is what makes something legitimate. And anything that advantages
the group that you represent, or disadvantages or seem to
disadvantage that group is on its face, completely and totally illegitimate.
And the conclusion of this article is basically like that
premise needs to die. Clearly, we've seen a very dramatic
example in the state of Virginia about how that is
not the pathway to success and understand, guys. Of course
I'm writing to a specific audience. You know, I am
not necessarily saying we should put all our hope in
the GOP, right, in the MAGA movement or whatever. But fundamentally,
like that premise is endemic in good sort of conservative institutions,
in good conscer Christian Americans, and unless it goes away,
that group of people is doomed to fluse forever. Right,
the idea that you can't advocate for your own interests
because it would be you know, mean horrible racist, right
and so effectively right, that needs to die, That needs
to be abandoned. This has been a brief summary, right,
it's a longer article. I just sort of hit the highlights.
But to me, you see this as well, and this
is a hell of the transition, Carl in the two
A space as well, where it's this idea that of
in the extreme liberal version is the kind of two
A for all stuff like we went over in that
kind of chilling article from Wired a while back talking
about you know the trantephotypes, you know, training for you know,
war with the Feds quote unquote right in heavy scare quotes.
But also you know the idea that you know, what
really makes something you know, legitimate, or what makes it,
you know, a laudable thing. Something that you can argue
for is how it indexes with certain minority groups, certain
you know, client groups of the DMC. So, for instance,
anytime there's an increase in you know, women or people
of color, homosexuals, less so, but let's be honest, they'll
probably get to it sooner than later, you know, buying guns.
You know, that's the idea that that's that's good, that's
what makes this thing fair because you know, we have
to be on a level playing field with everyone. And
I think that it's something you see a lot, particularly
in the more like libertarian circles, because look like American
gun culture did come out of in its current stantiation,
rather the kind of anti government, you know, militia movement
of the eighties and nineties, but then it went through
this this sort of libertarian phase. It's kind of exiting
that at the moment. But it's this idea that you know, statism,
the state, the government is the enemy, and you know,
we are all just simple, you know, Adam, right, bearing
individuals who need to have their choices maximized and similarly, right,
I don't think that's a particularly good strategy and a
good idea. I've been ranting for a while, Carl. Obviously
you've been out with technical difficulties. But I'm curious to
get your response. And oh yeah, yeah, Cyberchad twenty seventy seven.
Kevin Yanna is great his show Identity Politics right on YouTube, Carl,
you were on Identity Politics not too long ago.
Speaker 2: Now, two weeks ago we talked about the Spanish Civil War.
Speaker 1: Shocking, great episode. Thank you, yeah, Carl, Sorry, Carl, this
is also true of you, But Kevin is one of
my one of my favorite writer's favorite producers. Yes, content,
you should check him out. He is criminally undersubscribed on
those platforms, you know, I to put them mildly. I
think I disagree with him on theology. I'll leave it
at that, but nonetheless he is a good guy personally
and also a very very capable kind of political.
Speaker 2: Analysts solid think are very knowledgeable about the most relevant
stuff to work.
Speaker 1: So sorry, I'm supposed to kick it back to you, Carl,
for reaction of yourself.
Speaker 2: No, it's you know, that's that's part of my part
of that article and my retort is that there is
a consumerist mentality to this and this individualistic like if
if only we can put guns in the hands of
don Quavius, they'll realize that they should be just like us,
instead of thinking that this is a weapon, and it's
it's this like hobbyist rights orientation and without understanding what
rights really are. Rights are things that we have because
we say so, and if you treat us as if
we don't have them, we will do things to you
that are quite precedented. And that's really what they are are,
you know, if if you believe.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: In pat con which which is a really important thing
to understand, in the late eighties early nineties, you know,
the federal libtard government under both Democrats and Republicans started
to treat whitey as the enemy. Any any assertive white
person essentially talking in certain ways and not and was
surprisingly labeled as a racist, even if and this quite
often took these people by surprise because they considered themselves
as not being racist, because they didn't know yet that
they are a racist oppressor. They had not internalized that
despite crippling television addictions, and so they would be quite
surprised by these retorts. And then when you examine the
groups that originate these label like s PLC, for example,
closely connected to the ADL, like people who explored these
things and actually said, I will believe these people when
they say these things. I will believe that they actually
believe them. You begin to understand them. And if you
take their word for it, there's many words that can
be applied to you, many adjectives, and so anyhow, it's
this moribund, like constrained, like we let's bring them up
to our level by including them in our activities, and
then they'll become patriotic Americans. It's identical to this natural
conservatives thing. So the seventy IQ Guatemalan who is four
foot eight who just climbed off of his eleven year
old niece, if you hand him a firearm, he will
be like, Wow, I love George Washington too. It's it's
completely insane.
Speaker 1: You're top guy, Thomas Jefferson.
Speaker 2: It's completely insane. And and the way to argue with
these things is to put things in terms that are
this crude. Like Don Quavius thirteen years old, you know,
his local gang hands him a glock nineteen with a
switch and a thirty three round TRANSPARENTTS two.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, a.
Speaker 2: Glock twenty two with an a transparent stendo Ets magazine,
holds it sideways, sprays his school. You know, it isn't
classified as a school shooting because only why people do that,
and you know, because he wants to get his op
and you think that like that, these people go into
abstraction land and say, well, we should wait until the
very moment that the that the bullet hits someone's central
nervous system before we can respond, because you know, they
have rights just like us, you know, And it's really
quite incredible when you look at how convoluted and stupid
these people are because they've disregarded first principles for one
hundred and thirty years, like they are libtards, and they
have a crippling media conflation, addiction and premises that make
it impossible for them to think clearly about these things.
But fortunately that population is shrinking, and you compare guys
who used to and there was also there was also
a thing where people thought they had to talk this
way so they wouldn't get suppressed again because of like
Pat con Another guy I love, I love Matt Bracken
he's a writer, and he's he he was very very
very very libertarian coded for a very long time, and
then now he sounds just like us and like he
was directionally right, but he would I think he was
like handling things in this way tactically for a really
long time. But then there were some of these priors
that he just wouldn't let go of. Well those are
long gone, and he's basically like practically fed posting on
X about you know, the usual suspects who should be
fed posted about in this fashion, and I'm tired of
pretending that they shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: So we have some more super chats s W two MG,
logistics and amotion far exceed the cost of a rifle,
including water sources, camp, food, training, a lotments, et cetera.
PSA freedom only okay for like five K rounds? Yeah true,
I mean, of course this my recommendation was based off
of it. If you have literally no money, right, if
you if you have the money to buy something, better
do it. But like you know, five k rounds is
more than enough for someone who has only enough money
to spend five hundred dollars, right, you know, it's not
the be all, end all and the first point. I
completely agree aramic discord my brother in Draco Asalama lakam.
I miss my air ten. Yes, it was hideously expensive.
I don't care. I miss it. I certainly have things
in that category. Actually, I have a which we'll probably
get to sooner or later. I think I showed you,
Carl the uh the cool l mt ar ten lower
I got. Uh is my mic really that low? Carl?
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: I hear you fine. You sound okay to me. I
don't know if there's a difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean good. Yeah, I'll jack it a little bit,
but then I might kind of get a little deep
fried as I'll just talk louder and we'll say that's
good enough.
Speaker 2: He says that took care of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, handsome horses getting up there in age, he could
become hard of hearing.
Speaker 1: That could be it.
Speaker 2: But now he hears Yeah, you know, I love you, sir.
Speaker 1: He okay, Sorry I got a little bit distracted there.
Uh yeah, anyway, sorry, Uh got completely Slinging Beef continually
has uh the funniest user name. Oh wait, this continually
happens to me, like especially when I'm an Orange Show
or something where, especially when you're not reading them, very
profane inappropriate names and or super chats are really really funny,
So keep going, chief Sling Week, Isn't that bad? New
Starship Truoners book? And then an unrelated point thirty two
a CPS homo Carl will he will be coming to
get you, just to let you know on that, Well, Carl,
we are probably about at time. It's been a ton
of fun. Thanks for coming on to this this highly
planned plane excuse me stream. Where can people find you?
Where can they buy book?
Speaker 2: People can buy book at Amazon Faction and Faction with
the Crusaders by Carl Dahl. You can also find me
at substack